The Twelfth One

In this episode the boys do a deep dive on some basic Yiddish slang, including shiksas.  Noah get his Starbucks order profiled by the barista for being too feminine.  SNL actors and Bill Murry's praises.  The boys improv a skit.  Hoops talk, scones, Genda opens up about Father's Day.  Colbert's last episode.  Paul Provenza.  Reminiscing about our college days hanging out of the Comedy storeand wrap it up with the most famous character on SNL

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to another edition of Noah Genda Podcast. I'm Noah, and as always, sitting right across from me is my lovely assistant, Jenda. What? That's going to be my new thing. That's going to be like my new sign. Every time I introduce you, it's going to be kind of a slightly different way. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:25

I got it now.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

So we are we are uh live casting this for a little while. We'll probably turn it off in a few minutes after we make sure nobody's here. Um but if you are here, and if you uh if anyone signs on, just uh, you know, if you've got questions, comments, if you want something for us to talk about, we're here to do it. We're here for the people.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Because we have we have nothing to talk about.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

We got nothing. I actually got a couple things that I do. You got a few things you want to get off your chest?

SPEAKER_01 0:53

Well, I actually have a topic, a real topic.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

For like for the next eight seconds. No. A whole topic? Yeah, we do have a topic. That's because of That sounds dangerously close to having an agenda.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

I've yeah. I've thought about this podcast for a bit, and I think it should be called Entitled. Called? Entitled the Father's Day edition.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

With the upcoming Father's Day holiday.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Ooh, Mother's Day in the rear view now.

SPEAKER_01 1:22

It is.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Yeah. Father's Day coming. And this is Memorial Day coming up, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Um It's coming up.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

And then uh Yeah. Isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 1:34

That gave it away. That gave away when we're doing it. I'm sorry. Again, let me let me let me reverb that. So with Father's Day being tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

Father's Day coming up tomorrow. There's also a Jewish holiday uh in our midst going on now. One of the lesser publicized Jewish holidays. Shabut. Exactly. Yes. Shabut? Are you Jewish? Do you how did you know that? Because that's not something this lay person would know.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

Well, we've discussed my Jewishness.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Wait, you are Jewish. That's right. I have a question. Question.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Let me answer on behalf of all Jews. Please do.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

If you have if you have knowledge of this, and I don't know if you will, because this is something that I've been pondering, and we purposely did not Google it. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

I don't I think it's for cleanliness. Is that what you were going to ask?

SPEAKER_00 2:17

This holiday? No. Just for cleanliness?

SPEAKER_01 2:19

No. The Jewish thing, the skin.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

Skin? The Jewish thing.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

The tip.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

Oh, oh, oh, yes. No, that's not what I was going to ask. No, no, no, no. No, far, far less. Uh well, it is kind of a long line of mails and whatever. But so here's the question. And I don't know if you'll know this or not. And I purposely did not Google or Chat GPT it so that I would be wide open to your answer, whether it's true or not. Don't keep getting that. I'm telling you. Will you try this next time? Oh my God, is that bad? Why do you order that?

SPEAKER_01 2:52

It and it burns. I told you I have heartburn today. That is burning.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

Jenda came in this morning with raging heartburn. Thank God I had a uh a pepsid in my uh backpack that I always carry one just in case. Look at how tiny I am in this image. That's hilarious. Anyway, so here's a question. Jewish people will frequently refer to a a non-Jewish woman as a uh shiksa. Shiksa. Shiksa, which is kind of like a derogatory term for non-Jewish woman.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

No, it's not.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

It's not a pleasant term. You never hear it.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Well, it's not pleasant.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Oh, she's such a shiksa. No.

SPEAKER_01 3:26

Oh, that little shiksa. No, you're gonna marry a shiksa. That's it.

unknown 3:31

No.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

No, really. It's not. I don't think it's I've never heard it in a negative.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Oh, I've I've never heard it in anything but. All right. If you're a Jew out there and you're joining us, please weigh in on shiksa's. Um Let me get my rabbi on the phone. Please. We all have a rabbi. I'm 99% sure that shiksa is frequently referred to as a somewhat derogatory term for non-Jewish women.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Uh-huh. Yes. No. It is. I've been Jewish for weeks now. And it is. Oh, gender. It it is not a negative term. Hey, you're going to marry a shiksa. That means she's not Jewish, as you said.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

I I mean, I I guess that's our way one could say it, but here it could be like this too. Oh, so you're gonna marry a shiksa. See? Jewish. And it sounded negative.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

That was the way you said it.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

It is the way I said it. Right.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

I know it's the way you said it. You said it that way because I heard me say it. I know you said it, but what I'm on.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

All right. Well, if anyone knows the answer to this, because I I'm almost sure that it is, but the question was, at any rate, what what do you refer to as a non-Jewish man? So, like if a Jewish woman was going to marry a non-Jew, how do you how do you quantify that?

SPEAKER_01 4:50

Same way that you do in Spanish. The last letter A is for female, O is for male. Shikso. That's simple. He's a shikso.

unknown 5:03

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

Wow, that's so funny. A goyum.

SPEAKER_01 5:07

Oh Goyum is non-Jew.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

Trevor Burrus, but Goyam is that's all non-Jews. Yeah. It's funny how close it is to Gollum. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:20

I can't answer your question.

SPEAKER_00 5:25

Aaron Ross Powell No, that's sad. Maybe you're not all the Jew you're cracked up to be.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

There's got to be a word. There's got to be a word. Trevor Burrus I'm sure there's a word. I'm sure there's terms.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

All right. Well, I guess that that question can't be answered. That's a shame. Really was looking forward to your No, the the answer was given. Aaron Powell What was it? Oh that well. No. We don't know what the male equivalent of Shiksa is.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

Trevor Burrus, Jr. You actually threw out two questions. One was why is Shiksa a negative term, basically?

SPEAKER_00 6:01

No, no. I assumed it was. That was not even part of the question. I just figured because I've only ever heard of it referred to as a somewhat derogatory term for non-Jewish women. And I bet you if you Googled it right now, you'd find me to be correct.

SPEAKER_01 6:15

Trevor Burrus I'm gonna find you. I will find you no one.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

And then uh, you know, but the question was, is there an equivalent for male non-Jews? Which there might not be because the female Jew is much more important than the male Jew in in the Jewish community. Um because they are the only ones that uh unless you're conservative, then the females have no part in that.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

But they still are they're a lesser Right.

SPEAKER_00 6:41

If you're like really, really conservative. But but they but they still are responsible for the the bloodline, allegedly. Like if you don't if you have a Jewish dad, according to any Jewish anything, you're not really full ju full-blown Jew. You gotta have a Jewish mom. If you have a Jewish mom and a non-Jewish dad, ergo me, still accepted happily into the tribe.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

Okay. I'm gonna read what came up with Shiksa.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Please do.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

The Yiddish term shiksa S-H-I-K-S-A from the Latin word. Um the Yiddish term shiksa refers to a non-Jewish girl or woman. It is often used within Jewish communities to describe a gentile woman. Gentile, non-Jew.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Particularly in contexts involving romantic interests from Jewish men. The term derives from the Hebrew word shiksa, which means female. While it while it can be used neutrally, it may also carry derogatory connotations depending on the context. Well, so we're both correct.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

Yeah, mostly.

unknown 7:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

It may also carry derogatory. But any well, you can make any word negative. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

Well, that's I mean, do you could put intent behind anything and make it sound horrible.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

But I think Well, you did make it sound horrible the way you said it.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

But that's how I've heard it mostly. I've almost never heard it used in a neutral term.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

Well, you're hanging around with a tough crowd. I'm hanging around with a bunch of tough Jews.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

All right. So what other uh things do we need to uh Well, something came up today. Get involved with here.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

Something came up today. Something today came up? Yeah. And it seems like we the day has just started. Yeah. We refer to this a lot in our worldwide podcast.

SPEAKER_00 8:28

What did somebody do with their dog today?

SPEAKER_01 8:30

No, not a dog. Our Starbucks orders.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

Oh, good Lord.

SPEAKER_01 8:33

Because I am your Starbucks boy and I pick up Starbucks every week. This really just happened. Okay. And I can tell you we could actually call someone. I was on the phone with someone when this happened. And I said, I gotta bring this up on the show today. And he goes, Yeah, you do. That's how real this was. Wow. You know how celebrity we're not well, you are, I'm not. Celebrities are on the uh Johnny Carson show.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

Celebrities and machines.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

They're on the Jack Parr show. Right.

SPEAKER_00 9:08

And they and they say They're on the Phil Silver show.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

They're little kids with Uncle Milty.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

They um, you know, they'll say, Oh, I've I've got this story, I need to tell you. And you know it's just bullshit, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:22

Yeah.

unknown 9:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

This is not. This is real. I believe you. Okay. Starbucks line, in order. It's one of the drive-thru ones. I'm on the phone with a friend of mine, Todd. Hey, Todd. If you're listening. And the uh the little greeter girl, the order taker girl, greets me, you know, in line. I'm like five or six cars back.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

By the way, it's nice that you're not condescending about her and her job.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

You know what she was? The little greeter girl. She was a greeter girl. But you know what she was? A shiksa. She was a shiksa. Okay. Um so she goes, What would you like? Gave my order. So far, pretty standard operating procedure. So far. I gave my order, chai tea latte, soy milk, no foam extra hot. She goes, easy enough. Okay, I threw that in. She didn't say easy enough. I go, okay, and here's the second part. And she remembered me. She goes, No, I said this is the more difficult one. She goes, Yep, I remember. I go, Do you remember the order? She goes, No. Okay. So I gave it to her. I said the following, which you had texted earlier today.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

Yes. Which I always do.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

I told Shik's uh Starbucks girl. Venti iced matcha latte. Half water, half coconut milk, two pumps, syrup, light ice. I go, there you go. And she goes, Is this for your wife? I said, Nope. She goes, Is this for your daughter? Nope. I go, it's for a guy. She laughs. I've never heard anyone laugh that hard when I've said it's for a guy.

unknown 10:58

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 10:59

That's for a guy? What kind of presumptuous? I mean, she should literally be fired. If that happened in another way, she would be fired.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

Like if I was toppler?

SPEAKER_00 11:13

What do you mean? No, like if she said, like, you know, um, she's she's she's she's profiling the drink. 100%. She's going, oh, that's a woman's drink. Right. Like if she said, if she would have gone, is this for a black person? Or she's like, is this for a gay person? Which you would never remember what's different.

SPEAKER_01 11:32

A boy, a girl, as opposed to a what did you say, a black person or something else?

SPEAKER_00 11:37

You're she's she's picking a particular person that she thinks this drink should be for, based on what?

SPEAKER_01 11:46

Based on the order itself.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

I'm saying that's profiling. It sure is. I'm just saying some people find it okay to profile in certain ways and not in others because they're oblivious.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

I look at it differently. I look at it that I allow her the comfort and the space to be herself.

SPEAKER_00 12:08

Did you allow her that?

SPEAKER_01 12:10

I did allow her that.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

Did you say how do you feel about that drink order? Now, but I mean, that's like the kind of thing like that someone said to you the other day like, why would she say anything about that? I mean, obviously I could give a flying fuck. Who cares? Well, it sounds like you're a little upset about it. I could not be less upset. You've been profiled. What I'm what what quote unquote upsets me about it is that people, it's just a perfect example that people people's uh, you know, what is appropriate and what is not is completely selective and subjective through their lens. Because that is 100% her making an assumption about who specifically she thinks that drink is for, based on, you know, whatever things she thinks matchas or whatever. That is there's nothing different than if she just said, Oh, is that for a gay person, or is that for a Chinese woman, or is that for a one-legged ballerina? It's the exact same thing, but we're okay with it because she said, Is that for a woman?

SPEAKER_01 13:15

I didn't tell you that part. She did say the one-legged ballerina part? No, she said gay.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

A one-legged gay ballerina? No, she said gay guy. Is it for a gay guy? Is it for a gay guy? Yeah, her words. Is it for a homo?

SPEAKER_01 13:27

Any of you homo touch my stuff.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

Can you imagine trying to make that movie today? That movie, by the way, stripes, for all you kids out there. Bill Murray's possibly seminal film. If you were gonna say one Bill Murray movie from back in the day. Seminal or seminal? Seminal. Seminal. Um, I mean Caddyshack possibly, but that's really was his first one. Stripes was like kind of okay, this guy's here to stay. He's he's a movie star now who can carry a movie.

SPEAKER_01 13:57

You know a kid's movie could not be made in the movie.

SPEAKER_00 13:59

Isn't that crazy to think, by the way? What's that? Well, I mean, Bill Murray was Saturday Night Live. He was not the star of Saturday Night Live by any stretch. No. He was he was, in fact, by heads and tails, the fourth male on the show behind Chevy Chase, Dan Aykroyd, and John Belushi. And then Bill Murray was kind of like the add-in guy that did a few sketches.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Was he the original cast member?

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Yeah, I believe he was. Was he? He was in the first season, I think. I think he was first or second. But at any rate, you know, and then when they did Caddyshack, that movie largely was like, okay, well, Rodney Dangerfield's in it. He's this known commodity. He will he will carry the day of the movie.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

Have you seen that documentary, by the way? The Caddyshack documentary? No. The only reason.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

Are you serious?

SPEAKER_01 14:46

Oh, it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

There's a Caddyshack documentary?

SPEAKER_01 14:48

Yeah. The only reason the movie got made, because the studio said we're not going to make it if there's not a name behind it. You know who the name was? Chevy Chase. Chevy Chase. Yeah. That was the only reason they made the movie.

SPEAKER_00 15:00

Which is the which is what I was just saying. That movie was made behind Chevy Chase and Rodney Dangerfield. And then they're like, okay, and we'll get Bill Murray in on this movie. Because obviously Chevy and Bill knew each other from Saturday night. So obviously, Bill Murray is by far the breakout character of the movie, the most quoted character in the movie, everything else. And then, but but again, only made because, like you said, Chevy Chase. So then I don't know if he did one, one or two movies in between, but then come stripes and Bill Murray, John Candy, uh, Harold Ramis, all these you know comedy geniuses, but clearly Bill Murray's movie, and they're like, Who can can this guy be a movie star? Not traditionally handsome, not traditionally anything, much more of a throwback to Humphrey Bogart type of uh looks, and obviously stripes goes through the roof and establishes that this guy is a movie star, and he's obviously become a a national treasure over over you know three, four, five decades of movie making.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

I'm stuck on a movie of him. I I can't think of the movie, and we quote it all the time. He's a counselor, camp counselor.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

What's it called? Meatballs. Meat Jesus. Meatballs. Was Meatballs before after Stripes? Rudy the Rabbit. Woody Woody. Woody the Rabbit. Woody the Rabbit.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

Um I believe Meatballs was before, and as a matter of fact, I think that was the movie after Caddyshack. I'm I I think.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Before Stripes.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Yeah. And again, Meatballs was like a small movie. Stripes was a big studio film. Um for those by those days' standards, very, very, very big budget, especially for a comedy, and knocked it out of the park. I mean, it's very Bill Murray, if you really think about it, very few. I mean, I could I could name like two of them. Very few what? Movies that that were not successful.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

Oh, not successful.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Almost everything he's ever done has been very successful.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

Yeah, that Groundhog Day, that never that didn't work. Huge movie. You're right. You know, um Continental Divide.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

That was one.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

And then um the other one where he basically and again, this was kind of a real departure where he played um Hunter S. Thompson, uh something Buffalo, uh, where the Buffalo Rome, I believe it was. This is well before Las Vegas, what it was called.

SPEAKER_01 17:25

Uh Las Vegas.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Um the one with Johnny Depp and Benicio del Toro, uh Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, which is a great movie. Fucking brilliant movie, hard to watch and disturbing in a multitude of ways for a comedy. But uh Jesus was it good. Everyone was so good. Johnny Depp was Hunter S. Thompson was fantastic. Um but Bill Murray had done a version of that many, many years ago that was not successful, but almost everything else he's done, and then obviously he hooked up with Wes Anderson and was in, has been in at least four or five Wes Anderson movies. Like what? All fantastic. Um The Life Aquatic, Steve Zissou, where he plays basically Jacques Cousteau. Didn't see it. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

That good?

SPEAKER_00 18:12

Oh my god. You and everyone must see The Life Aquatic. Um younger people might won't appreciate it as much because they won't know who Jacques Cousteau is. They won't know the premise of who they're basing it on.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Is it a funny movie?

SPEAKER_00 18:25

It's it's it's Wes Anderson. So it's like funny, weird, quirky, everything you want in a movie.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

And then what were the other ones?

SPEAKER_00 18:34

Um uh well, I think he's been in almost all Wes Anderson's movies. He was in the the Hotel one. Uh what was that called? Um uh Grand Budapest Hotel. Yeah. Uh then he was in um Moonlight, uh Midnight. Oh God, what was it called? The summer camp. Not not Summer Camp one, but I mean Bruce Willis was in it, Bill Murray, every I mean it was just Wes Anderson Family Fest. Somebody call in, let me know the name of that title. Uh Midnight Bay, Moonlight Bay. No.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

Tell you what, I don't know Wes Anderson movies. You should. Yeah, I don't. You really should. Have I ever seen any of them?

SPEAKER_00 19:14

Um a Wes Anderson movie? You've got your Google box right there. I do have. Um Wes Anderson, I would say, is one of the five or six uh great filmmakers in the last several decades. I mean What's his last name? Can you spell that? Um movie list. Yeah, his movies are he has a very, very specific, very, very distinct filming style that he uses cinematically.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

I've seen a couple. Um The Grand Budapest.

SPEAKER_00 19:48

Grand Budapest is great. One of the great lines of all cinematic histories in that movie. Um go.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

What was it?

SPEAKER_00 19:55

I actually used this in my acting class the other night just as a depiction of No.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

What the number one in oh, in order of release. Yeah. Bottle rocket.

SPEAKER_00 20:05

Bottle rocket was Wes Anderson. That's a great movie. Yes. Made for nothing. Basically made the the Wilson brothers stars. They would we no one would ever know Owen or Luke Wilson if it wasn't for Bottle Rocket.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

And I think if it wasn't for Wes Anderson. I think the next one I'm gonna say is it could be Bill Murray's first more serious role, I think. Rushmore.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

Oh God, Rushmore was so good. And that was his second movie. And it was fucking brilliant.

SPEAKER_01 20:32

The Royal Ten and Bombs.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

Royal Town and Bombs is fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

That's a very good movie.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

And he always uses the same guys. Oh, oh, um Darjeering Express. Great movie. Darjeerling Limited.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

Yep. Great movie. He's made twelve. You said twelve, right? Ten or twelve, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:47

He always almost always uses a a core cast group of people that are all terrific in his movies. Um there's always a few coming in and out.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Have you seen his most recent work in 2024, The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar and three more? I did not see that. I did not see that.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

What's the moonlight one? Midnight, midnight something?

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Moonrise Kingdom.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Moonrise Kingdom. Really? Moonrise Kingdom might be his best movie ever.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

You know what? I'm gonna leave this window open so I remind myself to watch the movie.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

It's incredible. And and as anyone who watches it knows, he's got this incredibly beautiful visual style that he that he uses that is is so distinct. You watch a Wes Anderson movie, literally from frame one, you know it's a Wes Anderson. I find you visually beautiful. Sometimes when I hear myself talking, I'm like, I do know a lot about movies. It's kind of a little bit. I I surprise myself sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

You're like a modern day both Sisko and Ebert.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

Physically, somewhere between these two. Right. Uh but yeah, no, I I don't know how we got off on that tangent.

unknown 21:59

Do you?

SPEAKER_00 22:00

No, I don't know. What started that?

SPEAKER_01 22:01

I don't know, no. Whatever starts our conversations.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

Bill Murray. It was Bill Murray. And how do we get to Bill Murray? God only knows.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

Meatball stripes.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

Stripes. How do we get to stripes? Caddyshack. How do we get to Caddyshack?

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Because we were talking about No clue.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

No clue. I don't know. All right, listeners, if you're out there, if you can trace the nature of that conversation, please come on in and let us know. But that's the beauty of this show. That is the beauty of this podcast. It could be anything for anyone anytime, and you just never know what you're going to get.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

You know what you do?

SPEAKER_00 22:38

Oh, you brought something. Oh, I had I remember how it started. Somehow or other somehow or other, that started with you talking about Starbucks order. Yeah.

unknown 22:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

And that we said she was profiling, and then something else, and I don't know how where we went, where we went.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

You mean my little shiksa.

SPEAKER_00 22:56

Your little shiksa.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

My shiksa barista.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

So basically I order a a woman's, a female drink in the eyes of your little your little shiksa barista.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

S B.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

Shiksa barista. That's gonna be a new term that's gonna spread like wildfire throughout CB Valley. Too soon?

SPEAKER_01 23:16

Wow. Do you know how close we were to that? You personally? Yes. How close were you? Well, our house. I I didn't get close to the fire.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

Fifty miles? No. A mile and a half.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

More?

SPEAKER_00 23:29

Thirty feet. Were you on your roof with a garden hose?

SPEAKER_01 23:31

I did. I actually did hose down the roof and the trees around our house. I really did.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

Nice. I believe you. That's great.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

The Woolsey fire a few years ago, the bad one? Yeah. Oh yeah. That butted up to our neighborhood.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Well, when you live in the suburbs, you know, I gotta say, I every time I drive out here, man, I I I I'm so happy. I really want to move out here.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

I'm sick of being in with without your son. Without any wife?

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Yeah, no. They can live wherever they want out here.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

You should come out to God's country.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

I don't really want to. I really, really want to. You should.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

All right, I'll do it. What is tying you to where you live?

SPEAKER_00 24:07

Oh, Jesus. I don't know. What's your address again? The industry. You mean where I live over at 13892 Sycamore Drive? Those were fake addresses, by the way. Do not look for 13982 Sycamore Drive.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

But what is holding you guys?

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Nothing really. I mean, you know, allegedly show business. And it does, you know. Oh, yeah. I have to sort of like I where we are is central, sort, sort of, to a lot of stuff. And you know, I've been, you know, working, thank God, somewhat. And so it's uh drive-wise, if I were out here, that's kind of like you're always gonna have to do that, you know, 30 plus miles before you're anywhere near anything.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

It's not a but it's all freeway.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

Yeah, but it the but if you had to do it on a daily basis, it would still be Oh, I've done it.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

I used to drive to downtown LA. Well, every day. Oh, it was miserable. From here?

SPEAKER_00 25:09

So you'd drive to the 405 and then get off at Wilshire and go down to Wilson.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Either that way or take PCH.

SPEAKER_00 25:15

That would seem like a better bet.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

And if you're not from, we went over this before. If you're not from California, it's called the PCH.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

The Pacific Coast Highway.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

Yeah, it's not. It's PCH.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Um Yeah, I mean that that that that's a that's a challenging drive for sure.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

It was.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

And the other but the other problem is, at least for you, it's like regular hours. With me, with my work, obviously in show business and film and television.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

We in the biz.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

I never know you know what my call times are going to be. And so if I were out here and if like I had a weird call time, it it could literally take me two to three hours to get where I need to go. Which would be a catastrophe. Yeah, obviously.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Our area is not known as the uh the industry hub.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

It is not a maybe that's what I should do. Move out here and start like a new studio. A hub.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

Noah hub.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

You know, like the Westlake Village Film Studio.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Brilliant.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

We don't have one.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

Kaneho Valley Studios.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

All right. If you're out there looking for investment opportunities, call me. We can start Caneho Valley Studios. 1.3 million should get us off the ground. Um I would love to do that. That would seriously be the greatest thing ever. I could I could at least come out here and open an acting studio, like teach acting.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

You could do that.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

I mean, I do that in Studio City. Oops.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Um I'll tell you what, though, the amount of money they spent the parents spend out here for their kids to write.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

Right stuff, right?

SPEAKER_01 26:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

I could be tremendous. Teach those little sons of bitches how to act. The shit's the shiksa's and the non-shikas. My class would be open to all people of all races.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Brilliant. That's part of that's you know, me being in advertising. That's going to be on our on our logo. Uh-huh. We take shikas and non-shiksa.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

So easy to see why you've been so successful. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

Brilliance like that that separates me.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

Shiksa barista.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Volvos. They're boxy, but they're safe.

SPEAKER_00 27:12

All right. I I'm gonna get uh two of my I'm gonna get one of my off my chest things. I'm gonna do it right now. Um uh oh, it's not really this isn't really a complaint. Do you did you have any other off your chest by other than your you know, coffee that got a weird order?

SPEAKER_01 27:29

No, but I really found that funny.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

That happens to you frequently. People say shit to you that like it's inappropriate.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

What wouldn't it have been funny, don't you think? Now, this is what I would have done, just be me being me and always looking for opportunities to have a weird encounter with a human being. Okay, I'm gonna do the order. And a large um venti matcha latte, half uh coconut milk, half water, light ice, two scoops, two pump syrup.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

Light ice comes at the end.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

Light ice.

unknown 27:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

You be her.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

Did she have a deep weird voice like that? No. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:06

That's right. All right. It's hey, is that for your wife?

SPEAKER_00 28:11

No, it's not.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

Hey, another question. What's that? Follow-up to that one. Two, is it for your daughter? No. Why do you ask? Wait, it's not for a guy, is it?

SPEAKER_00 28:22

As a matter of fact, it is. Why would you assume it's for a woman?

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Because God, I find you handsome. Have I told you that?

SPEAKER_00 28:30

You're off the hook. All right. That was our little sketch for the day.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

And I can't do improv. Please.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

See, I would have not been able to help myself. I'd have gone, I'm sorry, excuse me. Do you find something effeminate about that drink? Why would you assume it's for a woman? Do men have to order black coffee only? And why would you be so presumptuous to think you know who drinks what? Chicks and Barista.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

It's my job.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

It's your job to profile your customers? Is there a manager here right now that I could speak to?

SPEAKER_01 29:06

I'm the manager.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

Because that was not only a microaggression, it was a macro. And I feel aggressed.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

Sir, can you please turn around?

SPEAKER_00 29:13

No. You turn around.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Because you're about to get punished. Turn around. Lock it up. You lock it up.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

Lock it up. Lock it up. What was that? You lock it up, though. You lock it up.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

Uh wedding crasher.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

Right. You lock it up. Get your head in the game. That scene where he eats breakfast is priceless.

SPEAKER_01 29:34

It's pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

He's just making the most insane plate of food ever and eating it without a blink.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

It's very Vince Fawn, that that scene. It was.

SPEAKER_00 29:44

Daddy's got to refuel. All right. So that uh What are you getting off your chest? Um Well, uh let's see, what did I say?

SPEAKER_01 29:53

I do have one thing, but it's not a it's more of a topic than a chest off.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

Oh, um well, can I do a little Laker thing here? Oh yeah. Uh we we all know that the I I personally I just think Rob Polinka gets a way too easy. Rob Polinka has been responsible for every major decision they've made in the last whatever five seasons. And personnel-wise, other than you know, great, they got Anthony Davis, they sneaked one ring in, we're all happy about that, and then they basically dismantled the team, let go of all our really good role player, gritty guys.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

KCP.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

KCP, one of them, but Josh Hart and Alex Caruso.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

You're going back pretty far, though. Not not Caruso, but Josh Hart, you're going back pretty far.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

Josh Hart was one one year before Caruso, they let him go.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

That's gotta be what, three, four years ago?

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Yeah, but I'm saying they it was clear when they when they got that guy, it was a they have drafted incredibly well.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

Well, Caruso, wait, wait, Caruso left as a free agent, though. He didn't get traded.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

But they let, I'm just saying, traded or let go. They let him go for nothing. He had a three-year, $30 million deal, $10 million a year for Alex Caruso. Are you okay over there? Are you dying? Yeah, I don't know. Josh Hart, another guy they drafted late, late first round or second round.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

But he wasn't that good as a Laker. You couldn't tell.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

He I 100% saw it coming. I was like, this guy is a tough defender. He's getting better at at driving the ball. He's becoming a better shooter. Anyway, Caruso and Josh Hart are about to meet in in the NBA finals.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

You think Oklahoma City is gonna win?

SPEAKER_00 31:46

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Really? Over San Antonio.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

Oh yeah. Okay. San Antonio was was great. They got that first one, but Oklahoma City got their shit together. They they just they bullied him in that second game, and I don't think San Antonio is gonna have an answer. Especially if De'Aaron Fox doesn't come back. I mean, I don't know what problems.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

Yeah, what's wrong with him?

SPEAKER_00 32:04

Well, they just are vaguely saying there's some sort of quote unquote ankle soreness.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

Sounds like ankle soreness. No.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

That laughing you heard was coming from the grave of Kobe Bryant, by the way. Uh ankle soreness. Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea what it's like.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Maybe it's load management. It's that time of year.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

Yeah. We're saving him for next year's preseason. We need a melty for the G-League summer league in Vegas.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

When we play the Taiwan team early in October.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

I don't know. I have no idea what's wrong with him, but like I don't think they have a chance in in hell without him.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

But uh they might not have a chance with him, but so developed when he became a bull, a Chicago bull in Illinois, he developed. He did.

SPEAKER_00 32:53

He was as a lady.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

He wasn't defensively, yes, my God, he was. Yeah. But he became a scorer in Chicago. He wasn't a scorer with us.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

It was in his like second or third season, and it was an undrafted guy from the G League. You could see he was on a rapidly improving trajectory. You don't cut those guys loose. It was just crazy. Crazy what they cut.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

They didn't cut him though. Chicago enticed him by giving him a big contract.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

Three years, 30 million, 10 million a year is almost minimum in the NBA.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

Well, again, that was four or five years ago.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

That's a nothing deal. Even at the time when it happened, I guarantee you, if you go back and look at like the headlines at that time, there you'll see, oh, he because everyone thought, oh, they're gonna sign him to a big deal. And when they heard what he signed for, everyone went, why the fuck didn't the Lakers just match that?

SPEAKER_01 33:45

Could we have I don't know. We had LeBron's contract. Easily Anthony Davis's contract.

SPEAKER_00 33:51

Easily. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_01 33:52

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 33:53

I do know. I'm saying I've I've done the research 100%. I don't know. 100%.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

I don't know. And we and was Larry Spriggs off the off the books. You're Larry Spriggs.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

Just imagine if we right now to go with to go with uh Luca, LeBron, Austin Reeves. What if we had If it's a Zubots, Julius Randle, Zubots, Alex Caruso, Josh Hart, and KCP.

SPEAKER_01 34:22

No, I get your point, but teams can't stay together like that. Some do. Sure. The young ones like Oklahoma City, sure.

SPEAKER_00 34:31

Denver Nuggets have had their core in place for five years.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

Yeah, but they're they're flailing now.

SPEAKER_00 34:36

Well, now they've they're they're they're flailing. They just aren't doing the injuries, unfortunately. Well, but they've kept their core together. They've kept all those guys together.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

No Aaron Gordon? Nope.

SPEAKER_00 34:45

He's what do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 34:46

He's No, they no, they got Aaron Gordon.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

They actually but that's what I'm saying. They brought in even more troops.

SPEAKER_01 34:54

I'm getting what you're laying down. I'm picking it up. I am, but it it's it's hard. Yeah, I think. When you have salary caps and in a small market like Los Angeles trying to use big contracts.

SPEAKER_00 35:09

How are you gonna keep them down on the farm when they've seen Memphis?

SPEAKER_01 35:16

And if they have to pay a uh a $10,000 luxury.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

Oh Lord. How is Jeannie gonna buy her scones?

SPEAKER_01 35:24

Scone. I don't understand scones, by the way. Are you a scone eater?

SPEAKER_00 35:28

No.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

Nope. It's all air. Why would anyone eat one of those things? I I don't know. I I don't understand scones.

SPEAKER_00 35:34

Like, uh excuse me, could you go in the back and um scrape up a bunch of sawdust from the ground and then uh just sprinkle some dried raspberries on top of it? Great, thanks.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

And fill the holes with more air. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:48

By the way, it's called a scone. Are you sure it's not called a cone as in like a traffic? Uh no, scones don't have any reason to be in existence. I don't get it. You want a muffin? Have one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:01

A real muffin.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

You want a piece of toast? Have one of those. Don't don't dilly-dally in the middle. The scone is like the twilight zone of pastries. The twilight zone. The scone was like they made a muffin. They're like, can we take the moisture out of this? Oh, you want is it a little too moist? No, no, no, no. All of it.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

It's too easy to digest.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

What if we made it like what if we left it out in the sun for like a month? Do you think that would do it? Like, how do they even do that? How can you make something that dry?

SPEAKER_01 36:42

A logo for the scone.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

The logo would be moister than the scone.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Scone. They're not just dry, they're hard to digest.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

Well, the agenda, your your advertising prowess is it's it's remarkable how quickly you can come up with something like that.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

Yeah, it's pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 37:04

Amazing.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

It's what I do.

SPEAKER_00 37:06

Yeah. No, I don't know. Scones are just crazy.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

Father's Day is a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 37:10

You know what's even crazier about the scone? It's like it's one of those things where like after you take the first bite, any rational human will be like, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not I don't even want another bite of that thing. Let alone to go, you know what, I'm gonna go order another scone. That had to be something that happened in France or something during the war when they had to like make food out of refuse. You know what?

SPEAKER_01 37:35

You think you could profile a scone eater?

SPEAKER_00 37:38

I could.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

You could, see? That's what Schicksa did too.

SPEAKER_00 37:42

I couldn't, actually. I have no idea who would eat a scone. I don't know anyone that's ever been like, oh, I love scones.

SPEAKER_01 37:48

I see scone in Beverly Hills. I see scone on Rodeo Drive.

SPEAKER_00 37:54

There would there would be then, and I don't know why rich people would eat them. I mean, if I was rich, the first thing I would do is outlaw scones in my house.

SPEAKER_01 38:02

I'd make a law. Pay the extra dollar for moisture.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

No, I don't like it. I've really gotten into making banana bread, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

Well, my wife makes a wonderful banana bread. How do you make it?

SPEAKER_00 38:13

Uh, I do it like I've gotten into these kind of viral recipes. So I just I mash up the bananas, I make my own oat flour out of you know organic oats, and then I I blend them in the in the food processor, uh, a couple of eggs, uh baking powder, and then I do my thing to it. I like a lot of cinnamon, I like walnuts, uh chocolate dark chocolate chips. Um sometimes I'll put a little Greek yogurt in there, a protein powder. Wow. It's phenomenal.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

That's not banana bread anymore.

SPEAKER_00 38:43

It's phenomenal.

SPEAKER_01 38:45

I can't have yogurt. One, I'm allergic to walnuts. Two. So it doesn't sound all that one. So you don't use a bread maker?

SPEAKER_00 38:52

No.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

No, we have a bread maker.

SPEAKER_00 38:54

Who would need a bread maker?

SPEAKER_01 38:55

I don't know. I don't think we use a breadmaker.

SPEAKER_00 38:57

In suburbia where bread makers exist.

SPEAKER_01 39:00

I bet there's some bread makers in your city.

SPEAKER_00 39:03

There's none. There actually is an ordinance that you can't have a breadmaker. A law like the scone law. Within the city limits of the mean streets of uh North Hollywood.

SPEAKER_01 39:14

So now it's two two things, two laws in North Hollywood. One, no scones. No scones. Two, no breadmakers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:21

You got you're on your own if you want uh something from the bakery.

SPEAKER_01 39:26

Don't come to our you're not wanted.

SPEAKER_00 39:28

Don't bring them things around here. All right, so you had something you were gonna say that I I I before I rudely interrupted.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Well, with Father's Day coming up.

SPEAKER_00 39:36

Father's Day coming up.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 39:38

Right around the corner.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

So last night, post-golf, with bread makers and golf.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

That's the life of Jenda.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

And definitely not scones. No scones.

SPEAKER_00 39:53

All right. So last day after golf.

SPEAKER_01 39:55

Last night after golf, I went out to uh a dinner. Drinks. It started with drinks. It turned into dinner.

SPEAKER_00 40:04

And Was this with wife Michelle or your golf buddies?

SPEAKER_01 40:08

Golf buddies, two golf buddies. We were a threesome yesterday. Okay. One of the first I've ever had.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

Was it all you had hoped for?

SPEAKER_01 40:18

Um less than I had hoped for. And I had hoped for a female at some point in there, but it didn't work out that way. Beggars can't be. So we got to talking. I it turned into like a serious conversation.

SPEAKER_00 40:34

Where did you and your golf buddies sup? You want to know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:38

Really?

SPEAKER_00 40:38

Yeah.

unknown 40:39

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 40:39

There's a place out here called Crawford's.

SPEAKER_00 40:42

Ooh, that sounds like a steakhouse.

SPEAKER_01 40:43

It's not.

unknown 40:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

No, it's kind of a cool indoor-outdoor. Okay. Which is Alfresca?

SPEAKER_00 40:49

Alfresco, yes.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

Alfresca or fresco?

SPEAKER_00 40:52

Co.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

Co. Co. Shicksos. Alfresco. Of course. Shicksos. Shicksos. So we're having a it turned into a serious conversation about my friend Bob. Bobby.

SPEAKER_00 41:06

We call him Bob.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

You know why we call him Bob? Because his name is Bob. Bobby. Bobby's dad we were talking about dads. And we're talking about he was really close to his dad. My dad passed eleven years ago. In June. June 15th will be 11 years ago.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Oh, you know the date?

SPEAKER_01 41:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 41:28

Yeah. I remember the date. That's why I know it. Eleven years ago. Almost eleven years ago. Um and I don't know how you were I know you were pretty tight with your dad like growing up.

SPEAKER_00 41:44

At times, yes. I wasn't with my dad. Right.

SPEAKER_01 41:47

Okay. We had a on and off again, very on and off again. We went two to three years sometimes without talking.

SPEAKER_00 41:54

As as was mine.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

Later in the life.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

At the at the end, the very end.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

When my dad started murdering people, I was like, I don't know if I want to hang with this guy so much anymore.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

Allegedly. Did I ever tell you about that? That O.J. used to play at Balboa and Encino golf courses. Uh-huh. And our our little joke was, well, if he ever showed up and we're going to play with him, okay, OJ. Just got one rule. No killing. That's it. Hilarious. Yeah. So I wasn't that close to my dad. Right. I was close. Like we were very similar. Probably too similar. He was a smart ass. He was pretty quick witted, but he was, I think I've told you this. He's very type A. Yes. Very type A. Two packs a day since he was 13 years old. That's hard to believe. Well, that's why he died. Yeah. At 75.

SPEAKER_00 42:52

No, I mean it's just high. You have to be just smoking all the time to smoke two packs a day.

SPEAKER_01 42:55

Oh yeah. That's so wild. Yeah. In fact, he was the smoker. It used to be common, commonplace. Yeah. Driving on the freeway, you'd throw your cigarette out.

SPEAKER_00 43:04

Oh my god. I when I see people do that, I don't just want to crash into them.

SPEAKER_01 43:08

And when I golfed with him, same thing. He'd put it out on the ground. I don't get that. Never understood that.

SPEAKER_00 43:14

I get it. It's the same people who don't put their shopping carts over here to do all the rest of the shit.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

Just inconsiderate.

SPEAKER_01 43:21

Now we refer to them as Trump voters.

SPEAKER_00 43:24

Now we refer to them as magas. Anyway, so I get a feeling your dad would have been good as a uh background actor on uh Mad Men.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

Yeah. That's funny. Oh yeah. He was he was sexist too. He was um anyway. I wasn't uh when I saw him last, he was literally on his deathbed when I saw him. He had a day to live. Nope. Wait, I'm trying to think. Yes, he did. He had literally a day, and then I saw him. Next day when he passed. So I saw him. I missed him by like 10 seconds, 15 seconds when I rang the doorbell. Seventy-five. But I got to thinking that uh well I was gonna say well, I am gonna say, I'm about to say what I'm I was gonna say. That when I saw him the day before he passed, uh his wife, number four, I think it was number four. Might might have been number five. I don't know. Yeah, type A. Remember, type A personality.

SPEAKER_00 44:34

Um Type A is in always getting married. Right.

SPEAKER_01 44:40

That's what those type A's do.

SPEAKER_00 44:42

That's what it is.

SPEAKER_01 44:43

They love to marry.

SPEAKER_00 44:45

Again and again and again. That's A for again.

SPEAKER_01 44:49

And his Oh, I got it.

unknown 44:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:51

His wife said to him, uh, his name was Marshall. Marshall, that's Stephen. And you know, he mumbled something. She goes, You know who, you know, Steven. And he goes, he he mumbled out something like uh nine years. He was still aware enough that we hadn't spoken in nine years. It wasn't ten years, it wasn't eight years, it was nine years. Again, this is twenty-four hours before he passed.

SPEAKER_00 45:17

So you hadn't seen him for nine years.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

Nine years. Okay. Nine years. Um So Father's Day coming up.

SPEAKER_00 45:24

I'm assuming that was the longest stretch that you hadn't.

SPEAKER_01 45:26

Oh, by far. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:28

Was there something that precipitated that that gap? Was there like a big blowout or something?

SPEAKER_01 45:33

I don't recall a big blowout. He was a very difficult person to be around. Very difficult.

SPEAKER_00 45:39

Yeah. Um I think What's that like to be with a dad that's difficult to be around? It's such a weird foreign concept. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 45:50

Yeah. Um That was the wrong comment. That's okay. Yeah. That did that didn't work in a sense. Um So we had you know you asked why or what had happened. The only thing I remember was that wife and I, Michelle, we made a decision that it was easier as a family not to have my dad around. Yeah. So it's a pretty shitty decision to make, but it it was. Yeah. He just caused havoc.

SPEAKER_00 46:22

Yeah. I mean it's a it's a shitty decision to have to make, but generally speaking, when you have to make that decision and when you make the choice that you made, it's the healthy choice. Because no one would make it if you didn't have to.

SPEAKER_01 46:35

Right. Even if you have to consider making that decision.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

It's because something really fucked up is going on with that person. Yeah. Because nobody wants to not have their parent around.

SPEAKER_01 46:45

He was a difficult man.

SPEAKER_00 46:46

But did he have any relationship to your kids?

SPEAKER_01 46:49

Oh no. None.

SPEAKER_00 46:50

Zero. Zero. Did he ever want to?

SPEAKER_01 46:54

That's a good question. Um I can't get inside his head. Well, one, that would be weird, but I physically can't.

SPEAKER_00 47:01

I'm just saying, did he ever express that openly that he wanted to?

SPEAKER_01 47:07

I'm giving the eh. No. He had intentions. They were not great intentions. Yeah. Um Yeah. I want to say with my son's barmitvah. Okay. That would have been in 2010. So five years before he passed. Yeah. And I could be wrong about this, but I think Oh, nope. I know what happened. He didn't show up.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

Oh, he said he was going to and then didn't show?

SPEAKER_01 47:37

Nope. Nope. No, he didn't say he was going to show up.

SPEAKER_00 47:39

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

We got the RSVP and it said something like and this was months before. Or we had we had it's my dad, so we had told him. We gave him six, eight months warning on the date. Oh he and his wife were going to Cabo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:55

Well you can't you can't miss that.

SPEAKER_01 47:56

No, you can't change that. A weekend in Cabo. You can't change that.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

That's that's a once-in-a-lifetime experience.

SPEAKER_01 48:01

But he was like that.

SPEAKER_00 48:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 48:03

Didn't come to my high school graduation. Yeah. Just he was that guy. You know, everything everything revolved around him. Yeah. Getting off course a little bit. But we're off track.

SPEAKER_00 48:11

So Father's Day is coming up.

SPEAKER_01 48:12

Okay. So Father's Day is coming up.

SPEAKER_00 48:14

Oh wait, was there something that happened at dinner?

SPEAKER_01 48:17

Yeah. Last night.

SPEAKER_00 48:18

Uh-huh. Father's Day comes fathers are g being discussed?

SPEAKER_01 48:22

Well Yeah, no. We talked about fathers and we talked about missing fathers, and Bobby's dad passed uh four or five years ago. But they were really close. Okay. So Bobby only had really great things to say about his dad. And they don't the guys I was with last night, Bobby and Jeff, both Chicksos, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 48:41

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 48:41

No, they're not. They're shicos. They're male.

SPEAKER_00 48:45

Jeff is Jeff is a Shikso. Unless his name is G-E-O-F-F. Then that's the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

No, it's J J E F F but he's a Shikzo. He could be. He could be. So is Bob. Okay. Bob Shikso. He's a doctor, though. Shickso doctor. Robert Shikso. Dr. Shikso. Excuse me. Rooney. God damn it. Um. No, but we're talking about he only had good things to say about his dad. And then they asked me about mine. That that's how little they don't know about there's no reason for them to know about my dad. And I don't I was friends with them eleven years ago, but not like we are now, not as tight as we are now. Um and I didn't have great things to say. But here's the big but that I in an odd way, even though we didn't let's see, if if I was alive for roughly fifty forty-nine years with him or so, there I bet half of them we didn't have a relationship.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

Right.

SPEAKER_01 49:47

But it's still and I I'll that's what I was gonna ask you. In an odd way, not an odd way, I do miss him though.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 49:55

Even though he was beyond difficult to be around. Beyond. I I can't even well, I can, because you you have some idea. But yeah. And then my mom, who's 86, and she's in pretty good health, but those years are you know we're we're at the stage like Mother's Day. How many more Mother's Days do we have left? We're really at that. And that's just a weird concept. Yeah. You know. Even with us, like with with seriously, I know we have trees in the backyard, two trees that that we planted 26 years ago. And they're twin trees, like uh Akim Elijah one and Ralph Sampson. They're the twin towers. They've grown up to be tall and skinny, like really tall. They're probably twenty feet tall each. The one on the left always loses the leaves first by a week, like literally seven days, and then in the spring, it gets them back seven days before the other one. It starts to sprout seven days before the other one. But getting a little serious, but even at our age, I wonder how many more of those am I gonna see?

SPEAKER_00 51:03

You don't know.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

It's a little weird to think that. You don't think that when you're young.

SPEAKER_00 51:07

No.

SPEAKER_01 51:08

Um but the whole missing dad, I was gonna ask you. I in an odd way I miss mine. I don't miss being around him, but just the old cliche, just knowing he's there. Yeah. So what what is your what is your take on your dad?

SPEAKER_00 51:25

Oh lord. Um well I uh you know, I don't know if I'm just like uh desensitized or something, because like for so many years after, you know, the incident, um our relationship was spotty at best. So he was becoming less and less a part of my life.

SPEAKER_01 51:57

Um wait, before that? I'm sorry, before or after.

SPEAKER_00 52:00

After. I mean, prior to it was it was always kind of, you know, highs and lows, but still, you know. But then afterwards things got so weird, and then he became so hostile, and I just, you know, it's like same, same, same decision. Like it was like, okay, we gotta move on from this person.

SPEAKER_01 52:22

And um So you made a conscious decision too.

SPEAKER_00 52:25

Yeah, yeah. And I always kind of left the door open for him, but like I we had some really uncomfortable encounters and discussions that I can't really go into because there may or may not be something in the works where I'm going to explain a lot of this. What's going on over there?

SPEAKER_01 52:47

Ring the ring camera.

SPEAKER_00 52:49

Um and so uh, you know, I would like to talk about it, but like I said, there might be something bigger picture where I'm gonna explain a lot of this, so we'll see. Um but uh I, you know, I guess there's I the only thing that I miss is the parts that I would be nostalgic about, like from when I was a child.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:10

That's actually. But that's just like you're right, those are just memories that I hold. And when I think about those good memories, I think it's more just like a a kind of uh a longing, maybe that never goes away of like, well, it would have been nice if there were more of those, or like what happened between like the guy that would take me horseback riding or motorcycle riding when I was, you know, 10, 11, 12 years old, and we would go and do adventures in the desert and stuff, and like that guy and that that connection at least, how did it go so wrong? And that's always the other thing that I always consider, which is like, you know, okay, well, we had those things at least. Um, and then it's more like just kind of a little bit of a just a melancholy feeling of, oof, God, that it got so toxic and depraved. And then I always wonder, because like obviously with my son with Geo, I'm just so in love with him. And he could be a giant pain in the ass. Four years old now, and my God, he thinks who the fuck he is sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

Of course.

SPEAKER_00 54:15

And uh, you know, but there's just and I've said this before, sort of jokingly, there's nothing he could do. There is nothing he could do that would make me not love him or not make me want to literally do anything I could to better his life.

SPEAKER_01 54:33

Well, just wait for his teenage years.

SPEAKER_00 54:35

Nothing that might change. He could become the biggest prick in the world.

SPEAKER_01 54:38

No, you're always gonna love him.

SPEAKER_00 54:40

I will always be in love with him. Of course. Like, there's nothing that could change that that would make me go, oh, I don't want to talk to Gio for the next five years. There's nothing. He could not there's nothing. And so it makes me wonder like how a father gets that way, especially, and I don't mean this like seriously, but like, you know, you and I, we're we're not bad guys. Like, I suppose if your kid just grew up and you were a shitty parent and they became just a garbage human being, you know, and were out there just being an awful person and you know, storming the Capitol and just being a pile of shit, I would still try to reach out and go, hey, what's the where can we get you back on track? Whatever. But like if someone became a really despicable human being, I suppose as a parent, you might have to make that decision. I can't have this toxic person around me anymore, even though they're my child. But like you or I, even in our worst days, how does dad make a decision? I don't want you in my life anymore. That's what I could never get my head around. Even though, even if my dad would have begged and pleaded to have me in his life every day for my own sanity and safety, I'd have probably been like, well, maybe we'll figure out something on a limited basis. But like, you know, being a dad, at least in this stage of the game, and probably because I'm a later in life dad, you know, I probably, you know, treasure it even more all the days with him. But I just I don't get it. I don't understand how and it's more with fathers, I think, than moms. Um, very rarely does a mom just excommunicate their kid. Uh, but dads do it. You know, it's you know, you hear about a mom running off here and there, but dads just will fucking bail. Dads will just disappear and go start a new family or start a new life and just Or get married five times. Yeah, or get married five times, which is just hard to fathom as well. But I don't know. I mean, personally, you know, and the end of the whole end with my dad was just crazy, but that's a whole other big chapter of life um that we don't need to delve into. Can we can we talk? Go ahead. Yes. Was there something else you wanted to know?

SPEAKER_01 56:57

No, no. There no, I've got nothing. I've always got nothing.

SPEAKER_00 57:00

No, you got nothing. Well, we've been talking for a while, as it is. Um I was gonna say uh, you know, the um this this uh well, there were two things. Uh I don't know if you saw the last episode of Colbert last night.

SPEAKER_01 57:15

We didn't. I fell asleep. Did you TV R it? Of course, yeah. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 57:20

Um so I watched it and I don't won't do any spoilers, but his last guest was a legend.

SPEAKER_01 57:26

I saw that. Okay. Well, I saw that this morning, actually.

SPEAKER_00 57:30

And and I was just thinking to myself, like What? Obviously, you and I know all the people that were on that show that appeared briefly or for as the last guest or everything. But like when you're watching those two together, since well, since anybody that didn't see it, it was Paul McCartney was his last guest. Paul McCartney is uh arguably one of if not the most recognizable known humans on planet Earth. Well, sure, he was in the wings, right? Yeah. He was he was one of the monkeys, if you don't know. Um but I mean there isn't a I mean, Paul McCartney generationally speaking, if you're 90, 80, 100, you know who he is. And if you're 15, you probably still know who he is. You might not be familiar with all the Beatles repertoire, but Paul McCartney, there's you know, there I just can't really think of too many people. You know, when Muhammad Ali, you could kind of say, well, who doesn't know him? Like, not just American, internationally. Uh arguably the most, if not one of the most famous people alive.

SPEAKER_01 58:39

Michael Jordan.

SPEAKER_00 58:41

Michael Jordan, yes, for sure. Um, but again, Paul McCartney's got a few additional decades on Michael Jordan. Uh I'm with you. But anyway, point being and Stephen Colbert, you know, thirty years of being in people's living room every night, one way or another, whether it was for starting on the Daily Show or the Colbert report. Is it 30 years? Pretty much, yeah. And then and then 11, 12, 11 or 12 years of of hit this show. Um two people like that with that much legacy and that much legend status doing their last show together along with the other guests, whatever. And I'm just wondering like, I think that might be lost on people because I don't think that's likely to happen much more as time goes on. What? Specifically. That you're gonna see things with that sort of largesse or with that sort of impact across generations of human beings to two people, you know, commiserating and celebrating uh uh that kind of you know journey of public entertainment, just because I'm like, you know, we live in this TikTok generation that are uh famous for five minutes and famous for God knows what for doing nothing for how they make scrambled eggs or whatever. And it's like, but to watch two people like that and imagine the lives they've lived and the stories and the things that they reminisce about, you're like, oh my God, that's just you know, 30 years from now, who's who's gonna do that? What show is gonna be ending in another 30 years where two people are gonna be sitting there with the status of a Paul McCartney and Stephen Colbert? It's I I would venture to say it's all but impossible.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:43

Aaron Powell You know the show that's taking over that time slot, right? No. Oh, uh it's what's his name? Uh Allen. What's his name? Um comedian. He hosts a comedy show. Byron Allen? Wait, you don't know that?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:55

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:57

What have you seen the show?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:58

Oh, it's if it's comics unleashed.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:00

Trevor Burrus, Jr. That's exactly what it is, and I know where you're going with this, and I totally agree with you. I find it and I'm look, he's beyond successful. Beyond, beyond. He's a literally a billionaire. Yeah. I don't find that show funny at all. I don't find the comedians, the comics, sorry, funny whatsoever. And that's going to take over the 1130 hour, eleven thirty-five.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:21

I think it will be on for about an hour and a half.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:23

I agree.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:24

I think it's a placeholder.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:25

I agree.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:26

Because it's been on at like one in the morning for a hundred years and in a syndicated fashion. Um yeah, it's I don't think it's funny. I don't think he's funny. And the the way that the format is set up is if you know they're having a discussion, but it's really just I'm gonna ask you a question so that you can do this bit from your show. I'm gonna ask you a question that's gonna lead into this chunk. Oh, what chunk would you like to do? Nobody thinks they're actually having a real conversation.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:52

Yeah, it's not.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:53

It's horrible. And the comics are in in a it's an awkward situation, but I know I know that you know, being a somewhat of a person who does stand-up, I get it. I know how much they want exposure, I know how much it matters to get credits and be seen and all like that. So I get why people would do it. But I mean, there was a show a lot that was on on HBO back in the day called The Green Room. Yep. Do you know that show? Yeah. Which was a phenomenal show.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:21

I don't remember the how it went there, how the script went.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:24

Uh it was basically just four or five comics stand sitting around a round table. Um uh Paul uh oh god, what's his name? No, no, no. Uh he's a comic. I'm just blanking for a minute. I'll remember because he's actually sort of a friend, and I feel really guilty right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:42

Paul.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:42

Um comedian Paul.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:44

Yes. And he uh he he was he was a fairly successful comic in the same era of the Jerry Seinfelds and Paul Risers and those guys. Um but he didn't never quite got over the hump. He did a few pilots, never went. But he's he's a good writer and everything. He's been around for a long time and and so he knew knows everybody, and he would just invite like some of his comic friends, and they would just sit around as if it were the green room or backstage at the comedy store or anywhere else where they were waiting to go on stage. And um Mooney? Paul No, just look up the green room. Um was he on it? He was the host. Oh uh, and I was fortunate that I I basically went to almost every taping of it. Um I actually got name checked by Kathy Griffin one time.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:29

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:30

Oh, she because she's she saw me in the audience.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:32

Oh, I know what you're talking about. Who? I found him funny. Provenza.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:35

Paul Provenza, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:37

He's funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:37

Yeah. Funny guy, really good guy. Um, yeah. And so Provenza and I knew each other through some mutual friends, and he would always invite me because he kind of like the audience was kind of an uh an invited group. Um and uh it was a great show. And like four four comedians just really organically riffing for an hour plus.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:00

Were they named comedians that we knew? I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:03

Yes, some were, and then some were like people that he knew were on the on the cum.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:08

Because Byron Allen, they're not they're not big names.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:11

No, no, no. Like I said, this was like really solid people and people that were, you know, in the comedy tastemaker world uh rising fast. Like if you look up the the comics who appeared on the green room, you'll see it was like, oh, this one and that one who who really kind of flourished. Um and it was it was great. It was so cool. The setting was great. You felt like you were basically in somebody's living room just listening to a bunch of funny people kicking ass. Um so anyway, that was a great version of that show. But you know what? That probably wasn't for everyone. It was a little too hip for the room, as they say. Um, whereas, you know, the the what's that other thing called? What? The the the one we were just talking about, the Byron Allen thing. Yeah, uh comics unleashed Comics Unleashed, which is like the most ironic title because they're so leashed in that show. They're not comics unscripted. Comics just doing exactly what they're told that you could, but yep with a script. Yeah. Um, which is really sort of kind of made to be palatable for I guess anyone who's trying to fall asleep. Uh the green room was much more of a thought bubble, I would say. Um but anyway, uh how do we get on that whole thing? So yeah, that's gonna replace Colbert, which is insane. Um but I just don't think, again, go to circle back, I it's sad it makes me a little sad. It makes me a little sad that like I I think those days are are fewer and farther between. I mean, you know, where people are gonna have these long runs of careers and and be legendary and do things that will resonate and um and be missed.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:57

Can you name a young comedian right now? A good young comedian.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:01

Uh not really. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:04

That's a little weird. We grew up knowing comedians. Oh, yeah. You and I saw many comedians on Monday night at the comedy store.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:11

Yes. There's none.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:13

Do you remember those days at all?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:15

Do you remember those days hanging out at the Bill His Greece?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:19

Barely. Barely. Really? Yeah. You don't remember who we saw on Monday nights for free.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:25

Was it at the comedy store or the improv? Nope. Never went.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:28

I've never been in the improv. Okay. You and I. You and I. Just you and I. That's Kenny Rogers.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:34

You and I.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:35

No. Whoever. Nope. Nope. Who did we see? On Monday nights at the comedy store.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:39

Yeah. Potluck.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:41

Potluck what? Yeah, it was. I think that's what they call it. Yeah, you never knew. We might No, I don't think we did know. You weren't given a heads up back then. No. Then it was owned by Mitzi Shora. Yes. Still is?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:52

Well, she's passed. So her son, her Polly and somebody else owns it.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:55

Trevor Burrus, so you don't recall. Tell me if you recall any of these that we saw. Yeah. We saw, you and I saw Eddie Murphy. I I do sort of remember that.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:04

Because I remember everyone kind of freaking out when they announced these.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:07

We saw Big Louie Anderson. God, how do you remember this? I'm going to get to one in a second.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:13

Aaron Ross Powell Was this in the OR in the original room? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:16

Yeah. In the big room. Two drink minimum. I do remember that. Yeah. I don't even know if they charged to get in on Monday. I think it was free Monday nights.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:24

I think it was just the cover. Yeah. The drink cover, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:28

I think. I want to say we saw Rodney Dangerfield, so I'm pretty sure we did.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:33

I think so.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:33

Okay. There was one comedian, though, that you and I saw that it's the first time and maybe the last time that my cheeks hurt, my my jaws hurt from laughing so hard. I was you know me. I don't I'm not a big like out loud laugher. Right. This was gut-wrenchingly funny. I'm trying to think who it could have been. He was beyond nuts. He was physical.

unknown 1:07:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:58

If I say what else, I think it'll give it away.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:00

Trevor Burrus, Jr. It wasn't it wasn't Kinison. It was. Was it Sam?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:05

It was. It was the funniest thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:06

And we kind of didn't really even know who he was. He wasn't a big name then. Yeah. He just showed up in his trench coat and everyone was like, oh my God. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:13

He was screaming. Screaming, yeah. He was down on the ground. He was something about him being president and fucking the first lady. Oh, he was beyond funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:25

God, your memory for this stuff is quite uncanny.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:28

And I have a shitty memory. I really my short term is awful.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:30

And it sucks because, you know, we didn't have phones back then, so we couldn't take pictures of everything. There was no selfies. You had to rely on it. So this thing called memory.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:40

That's the other thing. Someone made a good point of there's too many big events that we go to that I don't know about you, but you video them. You're missing where you're what you're what you're watching because you're too busy focusing the phone or holding the phone up.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:58

Yeah. Sebastian Mascalco does a really funny bit about that. You find him funny? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:03

I do.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:03

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:04

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:04

I found him funny when I first met him at the comedy store doing the belly room shows. Really? Yeah. And I started talking to him because I was like, this guy's going to be so fucking famous. Really? And I actually did talk to him. I said, I go, hey man, do you because I introduced myself and I was like, you know, I'm Noah Blake and whatever. He goes, Oh, yeah, you look kind of familiar. And I go, Yeah, I've done quite a bit of TV shit, nothing you astounding, whatever. He goes, Yeah, how you doing? I'm like, so we started talking. I'm like, dude, you know, you're one of the funniest fucking people I've heard in decades. You do you have like an agent? Do you have people handling you? Because you why are you not doing movies until he's like, you know, I got a guy. He's like kind of talking to me about some shit, some stuff, but I don't know. You know, maybe he's gonna have I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:50

How long ago was that?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:54

25 years.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:55

Oh, it was that long.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:56

It was like he was just starting to hit at the comedy store and becoming like a a regular there. Um I think I he might have been a door guy. He might have been one of the door guys. Um, but anyway, I mean like this guy's gonna go. And then of course he became super famous, but he's got a funny bit that he does. He's like, I think it's him. He goes, he goes, I want guy going to this thing, uh, people are my my kids thing, and they're like, they're all holding up their fucking iPads and the cell phones. And I'm like, why don't you look, why don't you look at the actual kid? He's right there. Look at the kid for Christ's sake. You're filming all this shit. You're never gonna watch that, you're never gonna look at it. What are you doing? He's like, I I'm pretty sure it's him. I hope it is, because if it was somebody else, my impression's gonna have to change.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:44

Did you see the SNL skit?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:45

But there's a funny thing that um he he does, I think. Oh, wait, no. Who does it? They go, you could they go, you could literally take a picture of yourself, you take a video of yourself because everyone just goes online, you still post this thing on your kid, your video, and people just go, oh, look, it's so cute, whatever. They're not even watching. He goes, they watch the first two seconds, and they'll go, Oh, it's so adorable. He's like, I want to post a video that's like got one second of my kid, and then the rest is just me taking a shit. That's it. Just for like two minutes, just to see, because I know people go on, they go, oh, it's adorable. Uh anyway. I again I think that's Smash's bitch. If it's not, I have to credit somebody else.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:32

Did you see the Saturday Night Live skit? Uh the Bachelor Party one where they where they invite him.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:38

Yeah. Which made that guy famous now. And his stand-up is not so funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:42

Wait, who was that?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:43

The guy, the kid from Saturday Live, who does Sebastian.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:45

Oh, he's phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:47

But that's all he does that's funny. You think you don't like him? Have you seen his stand-up?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:52

No. Oh yes, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get in trouble with the comedy people. I did. It's not that funny. Nope, it wasn't. No. No, he's a very good little actor. Yeah. Like really good sketch actor. Yes. And I'm sure improv is probably good. Yeah. But you're right. The scripted. You're right. Not so much. And I won't say his name. I don't know. Reason being I can't think of his name. Yeah. But he's very funny on the show.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:15

That's all you gotta do on SNL. If you have one breakout crush it character, that's that's what you need. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:23

What do you think the biggest character ever was on Saturday Night Live? I've got mine.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:29

I think I would have to say, as far as like if you asked a thousand people who are more or less regular watchers of SNL.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:38

I've got two.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:40

I would say that I mean, I know who my favorites are, and there's a couple, but one of I think the biggest one, just because it has lived on so much in like TikToks and videos and just like memes or whatever, is is Farley doing the old man living down in a van down by the river. I think that's probably as recognizable a character as any. And then possibly I mean, discounting anything that was on weekend update. I'm taking that out. Because those are all each each host made their own thing. Um but I would say either that, um, I don't think you could really count any of the old ones that we loved, any of the Belushi or Aykroyd stuff, because I mean those were great. We loved them.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:28

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:29

But the other the other one I would say maybe is You're gonna say it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:34

I know you're gonna say one of them.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:36

It's Will Farrell.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:38

As which one? Cheerleader or Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:41

I was gonna say him and her doing the cheerleaders.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:44

He's like pretty um, I've got two bigger ones, I think.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:48

And I'm trying to think of the women, like the biggest breakout women characters.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:53

Well, I'll give it away. Mine are mine are both male. Okay. Uh one is can't think of his name, of course. Great actor.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:02

Church Lady. Oh, yeah. Dana Carvedy is pretty big. Church Lady was pretty big. But I think a lot of younger people probably don't know Church Lady. No. And they probably do know Farley.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:12

True. Who cares about young kids? I'm just talking about that.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:16

You're right.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:16

And the other one in our time.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:18

Oh, oh, oh, wait. You look marvelous. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:24

I love that impression, by the way. You look marvelous.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:28

Remember, my darling says better to look good than to feel good.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:32

Lorenzo Lamas, right? Fernando Lamas. That's right, the dad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:38

No, it was a made-up character. It was a combination of a combination of Fernando somebody and and and Fernando Fernando.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:47

Valenzuela.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:49

No, his name was Fernando from ABBA? I don't remember. Anyway, let's not do ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:56

Mr. Robinson's neighborhood.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:58

Oh yeah. Eddie Murphy, of course. Mr. Robinson's neighborhood was.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:02

And Gumby. I'm Gumby Dummett.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:04

I mean, Eddie at the time, I mean, Mr. Robinson's neighborhood, Hi I'm Buckwheat, and Gumby were all like gigantic. Oh, James Brown.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:13

James Brown.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:15

A Pumatoe in the hot tub. Whoa! It's too hot. I can't go in the hot tub. Too hot in the hot tub. Well, we're trying again. Oh no. Still too hot. That was hilarious. But that was kind of a one-trick pony that sketch. Those were all super, super funny. Uh Mr. Robinson's neighborhood was hilarious. But again, I don't know that cross-section of over time, I still I would still say that the Farley old man down or living in a van down by the road. That's big. Was was gigantic. Um but there have been so many great characters that of of different eras of the phone. But you're right.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:06

A lasting character. But I they I can't.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:11

I mean, the the two women, like Maya Rudolph did so much great stuff, and so did uh what's her name? The blonde girl that did all the movies with her.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:20

Um Parks and Rek.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:22

Yeah. Why am I not thinking about whatever. Um but not oh, oh, the one she did. Oh God, the one the other blonde girl. My brain. Where she do the where she do the character who was abducted by aliens.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:37

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:38

Oh my god. The people are talking about their abduction stories. Like, well, yes. Then I saw this bright light. She's like, well, mine was a little different, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:46

Oh, you're thinking of a different I'm thinking of uh the Parks and Wreck one.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:49

Yeah, no, Amy Polar.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:50

Amy Polar.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:51

Yeah, Amy Polar had a ton of great characters. Oh, the the one where she'd go, Rick, Rick, when she was being babysat. She was a little kid being babysat by somebody.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:00

I don't recall that one.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:01

Super funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:02

But no, the other one the other one's a fantastic actress.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:05

Yeah, and I mean everything she did was fucking incredible.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:08

Yeah, but the the alien abduction.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:10

Oh, oh, when she would do, there were she would do men. When she would do uh when she would do H. Ross Perot, who would she do?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:17

Justin Bieber.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:18

Yeah, when she would dress up as as guys, it was fucking hilarious. What's her name? And she hasn't done anything for a little while, which is weird.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:27

No, but great actors.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:29

Um no, but when she did that alien one, I mean, she did that three or four times.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:33

Oh you remember that when Ryan Gosling was on the one of the alien abductees?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:37

Yes, and he could not hold it together at all. No, she broke people all the time. Um, my other favorite Will Farrell one was when he would do him and what's her name? Him and uh oh God, this is painful. Um, Rachel Drash, I think, they would do the two people in the hot tub that were like all the professors.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:01

Yeah, they they couldn't go back to the case. Jimmy Fallon was in it. He was in the hot tub.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:10

Yeah, he broke too. He couldn't keep it together for shit. Um but yeah, oh, there's so many, so many. Well so many great characters. I'm getting a note from our producer that we've run long. That was probably because we started so late. It was a late beginning to our podcast. We've got to be more punctual. We want to keep it together, guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:40

You know what else he was great? Uh Alex Trebek.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:43

Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that was hilarious. And then the guy doing Sean Connery, always so funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:51

Anal bum cover.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:54

No, let's not ask Sean any more questions. Can someone please mute his buzzer?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:03

That's what your mother said. That was hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:06

That Jeopardy. What is like what a bizarre. That's when Saturday Night Live was that that that was period of genius. Just the most obscure, bizarre ideas. Hey, let's have Will Farrell be this weird version of Alex Drabeck, and Sean Connery will just give the most insane answers ever. Perfect. Let's see if it works.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:26

It is funny. The shit they come up with.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:28

Yeah. Well, not anymore, but you don't like it?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:31

You didn't like it this year?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:32

Uh no.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:33

I like some of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:35

What? Name one memorable sketch or character that emerged.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:39

Colin Joest? Is that a character?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:42

Him and Michael J do the news. That's funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:45

He does a good Pete Heggs. It's funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:47

The thing I love that they do on the news is when they uh quote unquote make each other read like the things that are.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:52

So you don't think that's real?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:55

I don't think it's possible that they don't know it ahead of time.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:59

Then they're really good actors.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:02

Well, they are. I mean, maybe they do. Uh maybe it's it's not, but I don't know. I think that'd be a stretch. I think that'd be a big stretch. Oh, yeah, we gotta wrap it up. It's late, it's late, it's late. Well, Jenda, it's been a pleasure. I look I still look forward to our time together in this bizarrely lit prison room.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:21

It's funny because I don't. I I dread this.

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