Tropic Thunder

In the Winter of 2026, an elite force was sent on a top secret assignment in Southern California. The objective: record ANOTHER episode of a podcast about the heavily underrated film, Tropic Thunder. The mission was considered to be near-suicide. Of the hundred movie podcasts, several returned. Of those several, very few actually were listened to. Of those few, even less few were successful. And of those , only one was hosted by Rudy Martinez. This is the story of the men who attempted to record that podcast. Did You See This returns and so does Bale to talk Tropic Thunder! Lines will be crossed, impressions will be butchered, and hosts will likely be cancelled, but the memories will last forever. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Can I tell you something since you're the movie guy?

unknown 0:01

Tell me.

SPEAKER_01 0:02

I never got to go to Blockbuster as a kid.

SPEAKER_02 0:04

Damn. Hey man, that's not uncommon. A lot of people your age and younger for sure have didn't really experience Blockbuster.

SPEAKER_01 0:10

You're not that much old.

SPEAKER_02 0:11

What's the same, bro? How old are you? 30 I'll be 33 soon. A lot of people didn't go, man.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

No healthy? I didn't even hear it.

SPEAKER_02 0:19

I'll be 30, up 32 right now.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

Oh, you're not even that older than me.

SPEAKER_02 0:22

See, but I didn't get to. I mean it was still around, I guess, but if you didn't if your family didn't take it. If you're broke, yeah, you weren't right. You weren't renting movies. If it wasn't if it wasn't on TV, then.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

You know the first place I rented a movie? The library. Austin Powers.

SPEAKER_02 0:33

Oh, okay. I remember people used to go to the library a lot to get shit.

SPEAKER_01 0:36

Did you go see Scream 7?

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Yeah. We recorded an episode yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

I was like, did you fucking do it in the movies? Yeah. No way you recorded it. No, no, no. When I saw you post that it was going to be out on Tuesday, I was like, this film recorded at the movies, or did you just go straight from movies?

SPEAKER_02 0:51

We went, we saw it Thursday and then Thursday night and then we recorded yesterday. Me and Julie did one yesterday morning. More of a review than like a deep breakdown, but Oh yeah, you can't. Yeah, it's only been, you know, we only saw it. You only saw it once. So I can't really like go crazy with it. Exactly. We'll see how it goes. I mean, it was a good episode, but we didn't really like the movie, so it's the first time talking about a movie that I didn't like. Oh. See how that how that goes. How bad was it? It's not terrible. It's just compared to the prior ones, it was it was just messy. It felt very rushed because it had a lot of behind-the-scenes problems, so they were just like rushing. But it made a shit a little money this weekend, so there'll be a scream eight. Hopefully they take their time next time.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

I only wanted to go watch it just because of the trailer to Scary Movie Six.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Yeah, we saw that. It was funny. It's funny. I think it comes out on YouTube tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

Okay. I saw people are, you know, they already uploaded the TikToks.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

It looks pretty funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:45

It's funny. We were laughing a lot. Like that was probably the most entertaining part of the theatrical experience.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

You know what made me the reason I bring up Scary Movie 6 is because this movie made me think of like all the good spoofs that were done back in the day. We don't have those anymore.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

No, they haven't done a lot of parody movies anymore. I mean they yeah, because we I mean they've they've always been around like in the 70s and 80s. There was like the the Mel Brooks movies were out there, like Airplane and Secret Agent and stuff like that. Like those were like the old like Seg said 70s, 80s spoof movies, parodying movies of that time. And then I think for our generation coming up, it was like, yeah, scary movie was pretty much the big one.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

That's the first time I saw Ghostface. I didn't even know that Ghostface was a killer. I was like I just thought it was a scary movie.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

Yeah, and I think I think that was like a lot of people's experience with Ghostface too. Is I think people knew Ghostface because of the mask, because the mask was just so huge. But I think like people probably like I don't think I don't even think I saw I knew Ghostface, like I knew what Scream was, but I definitely saw like scary movie in full before I saw Scream. So when I watched Scream or when I f when I saw Scary Movie, like and then Scary Movie 2, like so those that that was kind of my introduction to like horror, I guess, but like making fun of it because I was always so scary when I was young. Yeah, but yeah, the scary movie, like the first two in particular, I I I think are classic. Yeah, three and four. I've re-watched them recently, and they're definitely not as good as they were in my memory, but there's there's funny parts in them.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

Which was that third one?

SPEAKER_02 3:09

Three is when they're making fun of like signs.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

I actually like that one because they make fun of eight mile, right?

SPEAKER_02 3:14

Eight mile, yeah. That one I think I think that one's fine. Yeah, four is terrible. That's like Saw and World of the World. That one's that one's awful.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

But three is I think there's that's the one with Charlie Sheen or both have Charlie Sheen in it.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

Three definitely has Charlie Sheen. Four does too. Four has Charlie Sheen, yeah. Charlie Sheen's in three and four. Yeah, three I I like. There's stuff in three that I like. One of the funniest bits I always talk about for three is when like it's usually it's like the signs stuff when they're making fun of the movie Signs, is when the sheriff visits Charlie Sheen and her hat just keeps getting bigger for no reason, and then she gets in the car and she's like, can't even fit it.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

Yeah, uh like there's who did that? The Twilight Spoof did that. Vampire Suck.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

Oh, Vampires, yeah. That was like after like in the string of scary movie, like then they were just doing like the the Vampire Suck, adventure movie, date movie, epic movie.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

Fast and Furious and what was it? He's got that doohickey.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

Oh, yeah. So it's like Drive Angry is the movie. There was like Meet the Spartans, a superhero superhero movie. Like it was it, they were so bad.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

They were so bad.

SPEAKER_02 4:13

It was awful, man.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

But they were good though. I I like like superhero movie I watched.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

I mean, I think they they all did made money because we were all we were at the age where we just thought it was like there was this dumb humor, but I I guarantee if you go back and watch them again, you'll be like, this is awful.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

I mean, I kind of thought that about Tropic Thunder. Not that it's awful, but I'm like, there's no way it could be done. Like, oh no. That can't come out today at all whatsoever. I'm like, even when we're like when I'm like watching, I'm like, we're gonna talk about this. There's like a word that isn't okay anymore. Oh yeah. And they say it repeatedly. This is such 2008. R, R, R, R, not the hard art, but I'm gonna drop it today. I'm just gonna say it's maybe it is the hardest of bars.

SPEAKER_02 4:53

I'm gonna say it.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

Is it the hardest of bars or is the other one the uh the hard one?

SPEAKER_02 4:57

I think that one is probably worse. I think the one they say, I think yeah, it's uh it's always so fun. Yeah, it's definitely a uh a movie of its time for sure. But hey folks, welcome to Did You See This? No, it's fine. Welcome to Did You See This with Rudy Martinez. I'm your host, Rudy Martinez. Today, rejoined by I guess uh my unofficial co-host at this point, the amount of times he's come back. But Vale, welcome back to the show.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

Yo, it's am I tied with Priscilla or is Priscilla up on me now? She's one right now.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

This is your fifth, I think. This is your fifth show episode. Is it? I believe, yep, because you did the gray, you did Wind River, The Thing, Warrior, and now Tropic Thunder movie we're doing here today, Tropic Thunder. So you're five. I think Priscilla's she's three. Three. And Kevin is four. I think Kevin's the one below you by one.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Wow, I thought Kevin was at three. Oh no, he did.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Yeah, he was at three, but then we did the So yeah, is Kev well's Kevin three? Kevin might be three, actually.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

You did Tokyo Drift.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

Tokyo Drift. We needed Fast and Furious, Tokyo Drift, and Warrior. Okay, so three.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

You haven't done another movie with Kevin? No, I guess not. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 6:04

So yeah, three, you're five.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

You just you did two festivals of Pablo. The Pablo, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

Pablo's two, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:10

Shout out Pablo. That Pablo's funny on track.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

Shrek was pony. He redeemed himself. See what happens when you're when you're a little, a little more sober during a recording. You're able to kind of get through a sentence.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

I wonder what it's like to do a recording sober.

SPEAKER_02 6:22

I've done I've done a few of them. Most of my recordings have been sober.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

I know, you refuse with me. I'm not gonna get high, bro. Who said anything about getting high?

SPEAKER_02 6:31

Do a bunch of cocaine, like Jack Black in this movie.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

Oh my god, dude. His character was hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 6:37

Yeah. So yeah, so today we're here to talk about Tropic Thunder. This is a 2008 comedy film directed by Ben Stiller with a pretty all-star cast. Randomly. Yeah, it's a stacked cast. I always forget how many like actors are actually in this movie, like in just small parts, even. The cameos are so goaded. Yeah, and there's a bunch of cameos. So this movie is a it's not a spoof movie, it's more of like a satire on Hollywood, which is kind of was Ben Stiller's inspiration for this movie. So this movie stars Ben Stiller, Jack Black, Robert Downey Jr., Jay Barishel, Tom Cruise, Matthew McConaughey, Bill Hader, like just the name, like Nick Nolte, Danny McBride, like a bunch of actors you've either you either know by name or you've seen in so many things. And this was kind of a like for a lot of those, like, especially like the comedic actors, like this is like some of the earliest stuff that you're seeing them in, and then they would go on to become like you know, Danny McBride and Bill Hader became like big comedy icons.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

Now they are Matthew McConaughey won an Oscar.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

Yeah, McConaughey's, you know, this is before his kind of reno the McConnaissance that they called it, before he kind of became a leading man dramatic actor.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

He's doing this when he was still doing the rom-com?

SPEAKER_02 7:45

He's still, yeah, this is like the tail end of the rom com thing for him. He's kind of coming up on the end of that streak. Tom Cruise is like one of the still one of the biggest stars in the world, and you know, for him to do the role that he did here. And it's like it's an interesting time in movies, again, because like the the content in this movie is it's interesting, man. Like it's really like a lot of humor that you probably like this, like we we just said before, like this movie could not be made today. And even when people ask the actors that took part in this movie, they're like, hey, would like do you think they could do that today? And everyone's like, no, like there's we would not be able to get away with half of the stuff that we do in in this movie that now. And yeah, I mean, even at the even at the time that Tropic Thunder came out, it was a pretty controversial movie. Like people were the the use of the word retard was was really heavy, like people were not happy about it. Like they're the I think like the Special Olympics, like all like the organizations that have to deal with in the same time. No, no, no, no. But like all of these moves all of like the organizations that deal with people that have like mental disabilities were very up in arms about the the content of this movie. And because not only does the movie use the word retard several times, there's also like a parody. There's also a a joke, an in-joke in the movie about about a movie that Ben Stiller's character Tug Speedman does where he plays somebody with the mental disability, a fake movie called Simple Jack. And so that was that was really like a big talking point even in 2008. And then uh another big aspect of this movie that was really discussed was Robert Downey Jr.'s character who uh you know he's Robert Downey Jr. is playing an Australian actor named Kirk Lazarus who basically goes the extra mile for all of his roles. He's a method actor, so he's an actor who stays in character, goes to extreme lengths to get in character, and then proceeds to stay in character through the throughout the entire production of of uh you know the movie.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

All the way up to the DVD commentary.

SPEAKER_02 9:45

Yeah, and this movie is is very much a a satire in making fun of Hollywood and the the craziness that act the the craziness of actors and studios and and stuff like that. And Ben Stiller said he was inspired he could he had been inspired to make the story when he was filming a movie. He had a small role in a Steven Spielberg movie called Empire of the Sun where he plays a uh I think he's he plays a a soldier like in a POW camp. And he said he got inspired because he's he was being around actors who like go through these like when they're like actors that when they do these war movies and they go through like these little boot camps they go through like to like get prepared for the role and how seriously they take the stuff and he's like I just you know there was these actors that I would see and they were taking the the soldier part so seriously it and they were acting as if they actually served in the military at some points, and he's like, I wanted to kind of make a movie making fun of these like how serious actors take this stuff sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

Well, I think that was just like in the time period, dude, because John Cena was very much that way, he was like this thug rapper, and then it got to the point where I thought he was in the Marines.

SPEAKER_02 10:52

Yeah, I mean a lot of characters didn't. And you hear about like even now you hear about it, like it it's always been there, but like you watch these movies where actors play like cops or soldiers or whatever it is, and then you they they go they go train with Navy SEALs or they go do drive-alongs with police, and they get like really in you know integrated with the role and and the character, and sometimes they'll talk about you know some of the things they did to get prepared for you know, you see these videos all the time now where whenever an actor is gonna do some sort of action movie, they're at that gun range.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

Oh, with the tactical one that everybody goes to the one that John Wick put everybody.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

Yeah, like you yeah, there's a video of like every young, any actor in their 30s or 50s that's doing an action movie. You see there's an Instagram video of them at the gun range, you know, getting prepared. And it's just something that they do.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

And I'm I mean one of the most recent examples was uh Austin Butler for Elvis. You see how his voice was when he was on Nick and Lincoln and everything else, and then it changed once he got into the Elvis role.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

Yeah, so a lot of the actors like a lot of the characters a lot of the characters in this movie are either direct parodies of actual actors or just kind of a combination of various people or the aspects of people that Ben Stiller has come across. And the premise essentially is there is a book written by a a guy named Sergeant Four Leaf Tabak called Tropic Thunder about his quote unquote experiences in the Vietnam War, and that this is the movie adaptation. It's one of the most expensive movies ever made, and there is an inexperienced director, Damian Cockburn, is in over his head, and he he has an ensemble. Yeah, he's a first-time director with hundreds of millions of dollars for the budget, and he's got an ensemble cast of diva actors. So the the lead being Ben Stiller playing a guy named Tug Speedman, who is a fading action star, kind of in the vein of like a Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was super big, like coming up in these big action movies, and now these action movies have kind of this franchise that he was a part of that blew him up, it's kind of becoming kind of a parody of itself, and kind of people aren't watching them anymore.

SPEAKER_01 12:59

And I love how the trailer goes, the guy who's done it before, who's made a difference before, yeah, he's gonna do it again. Yeah. And they just start making fun of that. Even the trailers in the movie are so funny.

SPEAKER_02 13:11

Yeah, the movie, yeah, the movie introduces all the like the the lead actors in trailers for like in universe trailers for other movies that they're starring in. So the movie uh, you know, I think that was a that was a big talking point too when the movie came out, where how people enjoyed the trailers. So there's these fake trailers at play. So yeah, we get introduced to Tug Speedman, Ben Stiller's character who's an action star, and he's uh the Scorcher franchise. And I think there's been like five of them, and then now the sixth one's gonna be you know, the frozen hell or whatever, or global meltdown, I think it's called. He's like, What yeah, watch him do it again, again, or whatever, the trailer voice. And then we're introduced to Jack Black's character, Jeff Portnoy, I think is his. Yeah, and very much Chris Farley coded, Eddie Murphy coded. Like, so he's doing a movie called it's a trailer for a movie called The Fatties 2, where Jack Black's playing several characters.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

Oh, a fat family.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Yeah, a big fat family, and they fart. It's a parody of the Eddie Murphy, the Nutty Professor scene, the clumps. So clearly, like, yeah, it's that vein. And then the Chris Farley aspect is he's like a talented comedic actor, but he's all over the place. He's a drug addict. Yeah, he's like a lot of you know, crazy antics on and offset, and it's like you know, it's a really crude comedy, like just you know, a lot of fart jokes and nasty things of that nature, which we saw a bunch of in the 2000s. That's kind of where comedy went after a while. Then there's the dramatic, you know, prestige artsy fartsy movie Satan's Alley with Robert Denny Jr.'s Kirk Lazarus character and co-starring Toby Maguire. Uh MTV uh MTV's best kiss best kiss winner, Toby Maguire.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

It's funny because he's like three-time Oscar Oscar winner.

SPEAKER_02 14:47

Yeah, five-time Oscar winner, Kirk Lazarus, and then MTV movie awards, best kiss winner, Toby Maguire, and they play priests, I think Catholic priests who are fighting you know homosexual urges. It's uh Brokeback Mountain and Mountain, like in a in a priors. Yeah. And it's like it's like a really good, it's like such a cliche, like prestige awards movie that It's so funny that it got nominated at the end. Yeah. And then you win something at it for the end or whatever. Yeah, it's such and like they're like holding uh like yeah, there's like that scene where they're like rubbing each other's feet, like the beads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the whatever the ropes.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

Yeah, the rope, the rope that's supposed to be the bell and the bright thing. They're both like this, and it just starts burning.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Yeah, it's so stupid. And then we get a commercial for Al Pacino. Brandon T. Jackson plays, he's a rapper-turned actor who goes but has a rap named Alpa Chino. Alpa one word, Alpa first word, Chino, like so clearly inspired by Al Pacino, because you know, every rapper and that is inspired by Scarface and Al Pacino or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

So he's selling this drink.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

Is it booty sweat? Booty sweat. It's a commercial to booty sweat to the saw to his hit song I Love the Pussy. And then he also promotes his uh his his uh candy bar bust a nut.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

Because he's like a mogul in this, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:03

He's like a rap, yeah, he's a rap mogul.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

He's trying to like, yeah, he's trying to like, you know, he has a He has this brand, he's very he's very much branded out, which a lot of rappers try to do that in the in the 2000s.

SPEAKER_02 16:13

He has a candy line, uh clothing line.

SPEAKER_01 16:15

It's a raw it's I love how it makes fun of Hollywood as like an entire being.

SPEAKER_02 16:21

Yeah, and and and at this time, like there's a ton of I talked about it a bit in the Starsborn episode when the the versions of that movie that were getting made, but this is the time when rappers and musicians are like they're just getting they're transitioning to Hollywood as just trying to increase their their brand. And you've got people like Ilil Cool Jay and Tyrese and Dr. Dre and Eminem 50 Cent, they're all they're all trying to ever they're all trying to become actors and uh to varying levels of success. They're all like kind of they're all stars in their own nature, and they're all they're part of the lead ensemble for this Tropic Thunder movie.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

You know who I didn't see a trailer for?

SPEAKER_02 16:59

The Jay Barrishell's character, yeah. And well, and I think because he's like a up-and-coming actor, so I think this is this is like his big break, basically. He's not really he's not a star.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

Gotcha, that makes more sense. I didn't see his, I was like, uh I love him in the She's Out of Your League.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

I love She's Out of My She's Out of Your League. That's a fucking great movie. Classic. I love that movie. My wife, Priscilla, showed me that movie years ago. I had never seen it.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

There's no shot. She showed you that one.

SPEAKER_02 17:23

Yeah, I had never seen it. What? I had never seen it. And she showed it to me.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

What did you think of uh TJ's uh character?

SPEAKER_02 17:28

He's amazing he's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

Yeah, I knew it.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

I was a big fan of TJ Miller for a long time. Were you? I liked I I liked his style of comedy, and now he's kind of a weirdo.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

He just became weird at the Deadpool.

SPEAKER_02 17:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

When he wanted to get paid the same amount as I Yeah, he was kind of too much.

SPEAKER_02 17:41

But I like I love him in Deadpool. I love him in that movie. I loved him and he was on a show for on HBO called Silicon Valley that I liked a lot. Oh that was good. I was a fan of his, but he's kind of weirdo now. Just kind of breaking down the characters. Yeah, so so Ben Stiller, like we said, is kind of an aging action hero who's pivoted away from the action movies, and he attempted to do like a buddy comedy movie with Martin Lawrence that was a bomb, and then his most recent colossal kind of career fumble is he he tried to do a dramatic movie called Simple Jack where he plays somebody with a mental disability.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

He tried to do the whole forest gum. Yeah. Which they kind of shit on one of my favorite movies.

SPEAKER_02 18:19

I actually enjoyed I Am Sam. Priscilla enjoys I am Sam too. You don't like it? I I don't like I am Sam, but I think it's a cursed movie.

SPEAKER_04 18:28

But uh why?

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Because of the I I don't like it because of the reason why they kind of make fun of it in this movie. Like Oh, you think he went all out? Clearly going for I'm trying to win, I'm trying to win an Oscar. That's that's very bad.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

I actually enjoyed that movie. But I don't even think it's Sean Penn's character that you resonate with it, uh as you resonate with the kid more than Penn.

SPEAKER_02 18:51

I I don't know. I don't really I don't resonate with anything in that movie. I don't like it. Forcing up though? Oh, of course, forcing up's a classic.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Okay so So you never go full.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

So, yeah, so he he tried he attempted to do a dramatic film and it was a colossal disaster. Critics are calling it the worst movie ever made or whatever it is, and then Robert Jenny Jr., who was kind of the yeah, one of the big talking points of this movie, plays an actor by the name of Kirk Lazarus, who's a method actor. For those of you that don't know what method acting is, it's basically an actor that goes to extreme lengths to get into character, and they usually they usually proceed to stay in character throughout the entire filming of the movie, even when they're not, even when you know, in between takes or when they're not filming. Something that has been it's it's discussed a lot. Like there's a a big example is uh Daniel Day Lewis is an actor who very famously stays, like he he f he portrayed Abraham Lincoln and Lincoln, There Will Be Blood, like he just stays in character throughout and and a lot of crazy preparation work. And there's like several actors that do versions of this. You hear about it. Jared Leto, someone who does it. I think Heath Ledger kind of did a version of it.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

Heath Ledger did the version of it for uh Joker, because remember he had the whole month where he stayed in the hotel room by himself.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

Yeah, and I mean I think and people sometimes confuse like something like there's actors that have very intense preparation for the role.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

And there's other that submerge themselves.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

And then there's some people that literally become the character and stay the character. Like that's kind of what Daniel Day Lewis does. Daniel Day Lewis was literally Abraham Lincoln.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Like he's you mentioned Jared Leto, does he do the same?

SPEAKER_02 20:23

Jared Leto does the same. He does it in a way that is made people not like method acting because I was gonna say, because I'm like, Morbius, how do you he though yeah, there there is a funny there is a funny article I remember, or like he made these stupid quotes where so he when he's doing Morbius, because in the beginning of that movie Morbius, the American classic, he the character of Dr. Michael Morbius, uh one of America's finest doctors, he the character is I think he's paraplegic. Like here, he has some rare blood disease, whatever it is, the k the character can't walk, and he requires crutches in a wheelchair. And there was a spoiler and there was a story that came out that Jared Leto, in his effort to remain to, you know, take everything seriously, quote unquote seriously, and stay in character, that he would Jared Leto would walk around set in crutches just to be in the character of Michael Morbius, and the director being like, Yeah, he's so in like it was like it would it was frustrating because he would like go have to have to go use the bathroom, but he would do it as if he was a character who can't use his legs. So it's like it would take it would take so long for him to like go get around on set because he he like insisted on staying wearing these crutches to get around like the character would. And I think they f eventually had to like move just put him in a wheelchair and because he just he was not gonna use his legs. Like just stuff like that. And then there's if you I don't want to get super into it here with Jared Leto, but like if you look up all the stuff he was doing when he played the Joker in a super sex quad. The rats, the ridiculous, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous stuff. So that there's kind of a negative stigma around method acting.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

So a good example would be Daniel Day Lewis.

SPEAKER_02 22:03

I think yeah, but I think even then, like a lot of actors that don't do it kind of s frown upon it a bit, or like you don't need to go that far to get to get the performance. Like plenty of actors get get into character, and then once they call cut, they're they're back to their normal selves and people do just fine. So it you know, it just depends on how they do it and and because sometimes it could be, I think, a distraction or it could be kind of a hindrance.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

Would you be a method or would you be able to come in and out of the character?

SPEAKER_02 22:30

No, I would never I could not commit to something that that hard. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

What if you gotta do like a biopic on the dude on the guy who plays the dad in uh Warrior and this movie?

SPEAKER_02 22:43

My boy my boy Nick Nulty.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

Yeah, like what if you had to do a Nick Nulty one? You wouldn't talk like him 24 seconds.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

No, but I mean look, like so there's variations of it, like there's actors who like there are British actors or even American actors that they play portray characters that have setting him up to do the impression. I'm I'm I'm gonna do it a couple thousand. But there's actors who do impress like who do accents for a movie and that are not their own accent, right? And then they'll you know, sometimes they'll stay in the accent, like an example, like Chadwick Bozeman, who prop who pr played the Black Panther, he did the Wakanan accent all throughout filming. Like he would stay in character, but then when the movie's done, he's he's dropping it. Like it's not that he's in that he's ta' chala, but he's just it's easier sometimes to keep the accent throughout production so you don't lose it. Uh for example, like the sh that show Snowfall, the damned idris, the actor, he he's he's British.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

But he does a really good job. I didn't know he was British.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Yeah, and so he he'd and he would just stay in the accent through the entire time of filming. Like he there was like he has interviews where like, yeah, people on the show would come up to me after like when we'd rap, like, oh, I didn't even know you were British, because he would he would just stay in the voice the entire time.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

That guy, his uncle. Yeah, Jerome, his voice, like I'd be scared to talk to him. Then I heard him talk about the biggest.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

He's very soft spoken. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I think there's again there's versions of staying in the character, and then there's extreme and less extreme versions. But so that's kind of so the joke with this, with Robert Denny Jr.'s character, Kirk Lazarus, is that he's an actor who goes to extreme lengths to get in character and and his method, and so he's playing the role of Sergeant Lincoln Osiris, a black, an African-American soldier from the Vietnam War, and in an he does this uh experimental procedure to I guess dye the pigmentation of his skin so he can be look so he can look black.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

And even in the movie, they're like he went through a controversial procedure.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

Yeah. And so he's yeah, so he's he's dyed his skin darker so he can portray a black character, then obviously he has contacts, the wig, yeah, the wig and the facial hair. That was the big talking point, is Robert like Robert Jenny Jr. is playing a black guy. And I think, in my opinion, like because I think nowadays some people look at it like, oh, you could never do that again. And honestly, no, you they you couldn't get away with it. But I think the movie kind of has a defense where it's not that Robert Jenny Jr. is playing a black character, he's playing an actor who goes to extreme lengths to be become a black person for a movie, like for a role, which again is making fun of the lengths that actors will go through just to to play the role to the the best of their ability in their head.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

And even then, I don't want to jump to the end, but kind of towards the end, we see him apologize to Brandon T. Jackson's character, and he goes, Yeah, I'm sorry if I offended you.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

You see the character come to like coming to like like the reckoning of his actions, like like he's like fighting it. Like, what the hell am I doing? Like he realizes like this is stupid.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

I like how like, well, I mean, I guess we can get into that later, but I like how in that climax where it's like wrapping up or whatever, they all the actors realize what their flaw is. Like, yeah. Like, as the movie is almost coming to whatever, Jack Black is like, Don't do it, I'm gonna fuck it up, I'm gonna betray you guys, trust me. Yeah, and then the what's the character of the dude from She's at a Malik? I don't know the name. Sandusky. Sandusky, Sandusky, you see. Kevin Sandusky, yeah. Kevin, you see his confidence come up and like really like when he's like when we first started the movie, he's like shy, da da da. But yeah, like you see Robert Downey Jr.'s character like realize that hey, maybe I don't need to do this.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

So after all these fake trailers, the opening narration always kind of makes me smirk, like done by Nick Nolte, the guy, my my guy from Warrior, the dad from Warrior, and he gives like a a voiceover about what what the movie was, and I won't read the whole thing, but he basically he gives like the background that in the winter of 1969 the army was sent on a top secret assignment and to rescue Sergeant Four Leaf Taback. And so Nick Nolte is playing the real Sergeant Four Leaf Tabac who wrote the book Tropic Thunder that the movie is based on. And he's like the mission was considered to be near suicide.

SPEAKER_03 26:45

Of the ten men sent, four returned, of those four three road books about what happened. Of those three, two were published, and of those two, only one got a movie deal. This is the story of the men who attempted to make that movie.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

I love that's in the context book.

SPEAKER_02 27:06

Yeah, it's like it's like of the yeah, of the ten men sent only four return, like okay, that's you know, the the stakes, but then it's like three real books about what happened. Of those three who were published, and only one got a movie deal. It's so fucking ridiculous. And then they made the movie about the this is the story of the man who attempted to make that movie. I I fucking I love this fucking movie, dude. Like I I've loved it since this was one of my first DVDs I ever I ever got. I remember. It was this one, The Dark Knight, Cloverfield, and Iron Man. I think this is one of the like like the smartest and best comedy is like of the last like 20, 30 years, like in my opinion. I just I think and a lot of people that I've talked to have seen it, like they it's kind of a movie like either you like it or you don't like it, because people like people that I've spoken to don't get the humor. Like it's like it's stupid, but I'm like it's if you're not I feel like if you don't really like follow a ton about like Hollywood or like movie making or actors, like you maybe don't get the jokes that much because a lot it's all it's kind of like an actor's inside joke basically. And if you don't really know like, you know, not that I know everything about movie making, but if you don't follow along a lot of like the insider stories and behind the scenes stuff, like some of these some of the humor might fly over your head, but that's kind of I think because I I follow a lot of that stuff, I find I'm able to find like all the humor in the movie, but I I don't know, I I also feel like even just on the surface level, there's a lot of funny shit in this movie, even if you don't know all the ins and outs of Hollywood.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

Well, two points. One, I think you started this podcast just so we could see how good you are in impressions. True. And then the second one. Back then I couldn't appreciate the movie like I did today when I watched it again. Yeah. There's it's so funny, like, and it's so well done, and it's so well written, clever, the jokes inside. Back then I couldn't get all of them, but it was still funny. But now, I uh when you said that you put it up there, like one of the best ones, yeah. This is one of the the best ones, the story, the timing, the the star-studded comedian, bro. Danny McBride.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

He's so funny. Everyone is so funny in this movie.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

Isn't dude, Danny McBride is the only dude who I like there's a lot of people who try to be edgy and funny and like make the messed up jokes, and like what's that one kid that you like? Not that you like, but like you would send me memes of or videos of, and he's pretty funny. Nick. Nick uh Fuentes. Oh, I mean I don't like the No no no that's what that's why I said you know how like they try to that's to them now. That this that's who they try to be. Danny McBride was is just that. Yeah, he's always been so funny. Everything that he says is offensive, but it's so funny you don't even have a funny.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

He's able he's able to toe the line of being offensive being funny and offensive, and his characters can say vulgar things. You find them funny. But he plays a lot of characters that are that are they're pieces of shit, but again, he even though like the characters are pieces of shit, they're like you find them likable because of the humor and just I think he's the funniest mother.

SPEAKER_01 30:06

Like to me, Danny McDonough? Uh no, I don't think he does. No, he's just his acting act. Just him as an act, bro. Thirty minutes or less is one of my favorite movies because of him. Yeah, he's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 30:15

He has he has two shows in HBO that I do. Eastern uh East Mountain Down, which is hilarious, and then he has another one called Vice Principles. Yeah, he's a third one. The other one, there's a third one that's called uh The Righteous Gem Sons that I never got into, but I'm a huge fan of Danny McBride. And he's so he has some of the funniest stuff in this movie.

SPEAKER_03 30:31

Um literally, bro.

SPEAKER_02 30:33

Yeah, I I I love it. I think Robert Downey Jr.'s giving like one of the best comedic performances of all.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

He gave such a funny ass like performance. Matthew McConaughey.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Like they're all great. Everyone there's no no one's bad in this movie. Everyone is funny, everybody is doing exactly what they need to do to make this movie work.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

You know what it made me forget though? How good a Brandon T. Jackson was in those early comedy comedy, but in those comedies. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

So he's good too. Yeah.

unknown 30:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:59

So the lottery ticket?

SPEAKER_01 31:01

Yeah. Oh my god. I can't eat. That's Bro, him as Grover and every time I hear Lady Gaga, I think of Brandon T.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

So yeah, after this narration, we get it's kind of a classic war movie intro. Several helicopters are entering kind of a firefight, basically, and we get introduced to the characters of the movie. And we that there so this is it's basically the the in-movie scene of Tropic Thunder. They're they're playing a it's a war scene, and we we get introduced to uh Kirk Lazar Sergeant Lincoln Osiris and you know Jack Black's character that he's portraying. I think his name's Fats in the movie, and then Jay Barishell, and it's yeah, it's just it's a chaotic war scene, and it kind of like it starts off like kind of a serious, but then it just slowly becomes more ridiculous as it goes on. One guy, there's a character on the radio that's calling for backup, and he gets shot in the back of the head, and it's just like a geyser of blood is squirting out of the back of his head, and like Jack Black's trying to like stop the wound or something, and it's just squirting all over them everywhere. And immediately you're we're seeing the the insanity of Robert Denny Jr.'s performance here. Like this guy was I think he kind of from what like I read about the movie too, like he he stayed in the character a lot throughout like not super crazy, but like he stayed in the voice and everything like that throughout production. He has some of the funniest lines in this part, especially, but like like I remember as a kid rewatching this this scene in particular like over and over. I just loved it so much. It's so over the top when when Jay Berishell's character gets stabbed by the bayonet, and he's like all of his like organs are coming out are outside, he's like, I think I could put it back in. I I I so I actually when I rewatched this movie this week, I watched the director's cut, which I had never seen before, surprisingly. And it's like 30 minutes longer.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

And you didn't bother to text me that at all?

SPEAKER_02 32:56

I had never I had never well, I was like, I wanted I was like, let's just I'll watch it and see what because sometimes these directors' cuts, and for those of you that aren't aware, a director's cut is some oftentimes it when you know like on DVDs or Blu-rays, if you buy the physical media, there's like an extra you can buy, it'll come with, or it'll be a separate disc altogether of a director's cut of a movie, which is usually the director's preferred version of the movie. So a lot of times when a director turns in their cut, this is my cut of the movie to the studio, the studio will say, Well, we probably let's trim this a bit. And for comedies in particular, comedies generally you don't want a comedy to run longer than 90 to 100 minutes. The director's cut is a little over two hours, which is pretty long for a comedy movie. Usually you kind of want comedy movies to be tight, in and out. And yeah, I had you know, surprisingly, I had never seen the director's cut, so I watched it yes I watched it yesterday. There's a lot of like dialogue scenes that just go on a little longer. The scene between the scene where Jay Berishell's character gets stabbed, and he's like all like it's much longer and more like over the top in the director's cut. Like really? I I liked it. I I I enjoyed it, and then when I was watch I was watching the you know the theatrical version this morning a bit, and yeah, I'm just seeing a lot of what doesn't make that cut that version in theaters. I was like, oh that's interesting.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

Richard did you like more?

SPEAKER_02 34:12

I I think I I I I appreciated the director's cut more because I I like when comedy can kind of just let things I I like like the awkward when like it just it goes on a little longer than maybe it you want it to. And like it's just like the how like the awkwardness it becomes all of a sudden, and that kind of makes it funny. But there is some yeah, there is some interesting stuff in there that I I really enjoy. But it's not like there's like a it's not like sometimes director's cuts like there's like a big scene that's taken out. And really it's just it's just throughout the movie they're just scenes that just kind of there's and there's like little sh tiny gags in the movie that just aren't in the theatrical cut that do we get more of Tom Cruise's character? There's like little bits of pieces with him. Uh I think most of that stuff made it in though because perfect.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

Can I ask you a question before Oh I'll save it to the end.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

This war scene, and we get introduced to all the characters, they're the characters are calling for help, and then they're they're looking for uh they're waiting for a sergeant for Leaf Tabag, Ben Stiller's character, and then he comes running out. They think he's dead, so they leave. They're getting ready to leave, and then yeah, and then we see Ben Stiller's character come running through the jungle, and this is a parody of a war movie called Platoon, where it's like it's literally the same scene with Willom Dafoe where he is running through the jungle, falls to his knees with his hands in the air, and he's getting he gets you know blasted by gunfire. This takes a more comedic turn because he's he gets blasted like a bunch of times. He like he should be dead. Yeah. And yeah, and then um they see the character, and yeah, this is when Robert Janet just yeah, like he's like, survive, survive. And then so Robert Janet's character is gonna go save him, and he yells at the his uh team, cover me, you lymptic fuck ups. He goes and starts running with his pistol. He's like, shoot, he has the pistol behind his back.

SPEAKER_03 35:56

That uh Bigaboo, I see you want some get some.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

I fucking love Robert. Like I this movie, this that guy became my whole personality for a long time. Yeah. That character.

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Bro, and you know so funny as that I didn't know that he because I didn't know actors. I knew the movie, I didn't know actors. It wasn't until I saw the Joe Rogan episode that he's on that he's like, Yeah, I did the I or no, it wasn't even that he did. It was he had uh Was it Jamie Fox? Jamie Foxx, yeah. And he goes, and he talks about how he that process went along a little bit, but I was like, that's RDJ? Yeah, and he still got Iron Man after that. That's the first that was my first thought.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

Iron Man and Tropic Thunder are the same year. Oh, see. So Iron Man comes out in May. Okay, and then this one, this movie comes out in August. So it was a big year for so this was so Was this his comeback? This was kind of this was his big comeback year. So kind of talking about that. So yeah, Robert Denny Jr. for everyone that knows, we talked I talked a bit about it on the Iron Man episode, but if you haven't heard that one, Robert Denny Jr. famously or infamously, I guess, was uh struggled with drug addiction for like all through I mean through his life, but like in the 80s and 90s in particular, it got really bad to the point where he was their chaplain or before? This is out. I mean, I think he was dealing with it during that, but like it got out it got out of control and he was getting into a lot of legal trouble, he was getting arrested. You know, you can go read about all of the antics he was getting into during this time, but he was basically like people he he people looked at it like oh like this this kid had so much talent and he's it's all getting thrown away because of his drug, you know, these his problems. So he was basically like a black sheep of Hollywood, like basically was cast out, he got arrested, I think he got went sent got sent to rehab, and then he attempted to make a comeback into acting, but he had a lot of trouble because studios didn't want to deal with them. Because when an actor gets cast, there's like an insurance policy taken out on them.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Which I just found out about that when Valentino was retiring. I just found out about insurance that they wouldn't cover him because he was still doing wrestling. And I was like, Yeah, they have insurance for actors?

SPEAKER_02 37:50

Yeah, they do. That's crazy. And so no the no studio wanted to pay the insurance policy because the premiums for him were expensive because they were like, he won't even he won't finish the movie. He'll go, he'll start filming, and then you guys want one one day he'll disappear to go, you know, to go do drugs, and we wanna he won't finish the movie or he'll die, and then we have to deal with like there's just too many there was too many variables for risk factor. And I think Mel Gibson was an actor who like vouched for him and like offered to like I think he paid some like whatever movie he did, like he paid the insurance premium to get to help him get back. Yeah. You can read like Robert Denny Jr. Robert Denny Jr. talks about Mel Gibson a lot, that he really supported him during his comeback. And so in 2004, Robert Denny Jr. does his first big successful comeback in a movie called Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, which is really, really good. It's a small movie, nobody saw it, it bombed in the box office, but it's a really good movie. Okay. The roles that he would proceed to take post-comeback really kind of tie to him a lot. Like the Kiss Kiss Bang Bang character is a he's a criminal who mistakenly, he in an effort to escape police, runs into an audition room and uh one of his like the his criminal partner has like has was shot and killed, so he's like breaking down about the guy, like the guy that died, and and the the casting people think he's giving an audition. They're like, Oh, you're great. So they cast him as an actor in the movie. So the movie's so it's a it's like a comedy crime movie. It's a guy who is having issues with the law ground and he kind of becomes an actor, a successful actor, and then even Iron Man, you know, there's a lot of very there's a lot of similarities between him and Tony Stark.

SPEAKER_01 39:25

Tony Stark is somebody who Tony Stark in the comic books is an alcoholic.

SPEAKER_02 39:29

Right. There's that famous storyline in the comic, which I think Robert Denner Jr. definitely enjoyed, and then which they kind of attempt to do in Iron Man 2, not but not really.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

And then It sucks that it was very Disney heavy.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

Yeah. Beyond that, the s the stuff Tony Stark's prior to him becoming Iron Man, he's selfish, self-obsessed, you know, womanizing narcissists, and then kind of has a fall from grace and gets humbled and ha and tries to make come back and do good, which is kind of what you know, a lot of what RDJ was doing at a point. He he fell from grace and is trying to earn his way back into the the spotlight and and prove to prove to people like I can do this. Well he did it with Iron Man in this movie. And then so he so that's 2004, then he does Zodiac a couple years later, which is a big movie, fantastic in it. The movie didn't do great financially, but it's a respected film from 2007, and then obviously he gets cast as Tony Stark, and then he gets this movie.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

Was the soloist with RDJ too, or no? Or remember Triple?

SPEAKER_02 40:25

That's after I think that he does that after Iron Man. That's kind of like I think he gets I think he does that movie around this time, but it comes out after the the other movies when RDJ's like because I remember it being like around 2009, 2010 that it came out.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:37

That was that was like a post like Jamie Foxx had got his Oscar for Ray, and then RDJ's coming back, so I think it was like them trying to capitalize on that. This is like a big year for him. So he gets Iron Man, Iron Man's as a huge hit of success, launches the MCU, changes Robert Dana Jr.'s career forever.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

He made what half a million, half a billion off of it already?

SPEAKER_02 40:57

Yeah, Iron Man makes 500 billion.

SPEAKER_01 40:58

No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 40:59

Like he's made 500 billion from all the MCU movies? He's made several hundred million dollars, uh probably very close to a billion dollars in just from the Marvel movies.

SPEAKER_04 41:10

Damn it.

SPEAKER_02 41:11

He made hundreds of millions of dollars, like which is a lot. That's not what often get paid. But Iron Man and then he does this, and he gets and you know, funnily enough, he gets nominated for an Oscar for his role for Tropic Thunder.

SPEAKER_01 41:22

Shut up for what?

SPEAKER_02 41:23

Best supporting actor.

SPEAKER_01 41:24

No, what why who won it?

SPEAKER_02 41:27

That year.

SPEAKER_01 41:28

2008.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

I think that was the that was uh Heath Ledger. Heath Ledger won. 2008? Yeah. Dark Knight's the same year. Dark Knight's the year before, the month before this movie comes out.

SPEAKER_01 41:37

I always confused that The Dark Knight rises with with the Dark Knight 2012. Yeah, Heath Ledger wins for Joker. Damn it.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

But still just the fact that he got nominated for this. Nominated for this role was hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

Bro, the the way he does the accents. He because he does various accents in this movie.

SPEAKER_02 41:53

Yeah, so the in the movie Kirk Lazarus is an Australian actor, and he's so he's doing an Australian accent, and then he portrays the has like like the jive talk basically as when he's playing the black character Lincoln Osiris. Yeah, it it's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

What what year is this movie based on again? 69, I think?

SPEAKER_02 42:12

Yeah, they're like in the 60s. Oh. Late, like late 60s, very mid-60s.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

Because he goes, when he goes, everybody give me your phones, he goes, We're no phones, 69. Yeah, I'm clean.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

I'm authenticated to dough, baby.

SPEAKER_01 42:23

Which one was more controversial? The uh the use of the retard or him being blackface?

SPEAKER_02 42:30

I think the the mental the mental like the all the the simple jack stuff is really the the bit the big controversy surrounding this movie. Like ultimately, I think I think the Robert Denny Jr. thing at the time was it was like what are they doing? But then I think leading up to it, people were like, okay, like they accepted it. I think now people are I don't think I don't think there's a backlash against it. I just think people are like, you probably just wouldn't do that this again. Like you you would just hire a black actor and pretend that they were I don't know, or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01 42:56

Pretend that they're Australian. Yeah. You know. But I mean that he did a good job. He apologized for it. I don't think anybody's given him a flag for it. Everybody who I've talked to loves that character.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

Yeah, yeah. No, even when they interview him people like you like got away with it basically. And every and like actors like Jamie Foxx or even Brandon T. Jackson in this movie is like, yeah, he was like a black guy. Like it was it was funny. Like it was funny. Like I wasn't offended. But you know, whatever, teach your own. If you are, you are great. But I, you know, I I think ultimately the the the explanation for the m in the movie it makes sense to me as to why it's not it I it shouldn't be a it should be it's offensive to the characters in the movie because if this were to happen in real life, it would be it should be offensive.

SPEAKER_01 43:35

It should be offensive, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:36

But in the movie, it's it's a it's just making fun of how far actors will go. Like if somebody did this in real life, yeah, you people I mean, rightfully so, you should be like, what the fuck are you doing? But that's not what they're like. I mean it's a comedy movie.

SPEAKER_01 43:48

It just can't go that way because they do it all the time the other way.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

Well, and and you know, and just the whole the whole thing with blackface too is back in the day a lot of white actors used would do this. It's like in serious movies, like not comedies, but like there is there's a famous act there's an actor by the name of C. Thomas Howell in a movie called Soul Men from like the I think 70s or 80s or something that literally is playing a black person. Like is playing a black person. He's a white actor playing a black person. You know, so in the in this this would like the Hollywood has a history of this of doing this, they just putting makeup on actors to make them other ethnicities. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:25

I mean, but that's one we can't really do.

SPEAKER_02 44:27

No, you now you can't do it anymore. Like it you I mean you shouldn't have done it. You shouldn't have done it ever, but it was just a matter of they don't want to hire actors of of color.

SPEAKER_01 44:35

I'm surprised that this movie with actors that it had took that risk though. I'm glad they did because it paid off immensely. Yeah. But it's like the fact that they took that risk with RDJ, and RDJ was like, fuck it.

SPEAKER_02 44:45

Again, he got the Oscar nom, it worked out ultimately.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

Has he been nominated for any of the Oscars?

SPEAKER_02 44:50

Yeah, he won for Oppenheimer. Oh, he did won for Oppenheimer, I didn't even watch it. He won for Oppenheimer.

SPEAKER_01 44:54

So if both for Oppenheimer, both of them, Killian Murphy and RDJ won or no? Mm-hmm. Oh nice though.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

Killian wins for Lee, Downey wins for best of the cards.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

I gotta watch it. I gotta watch.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

But yeah, so so after this kind of you know comedic shooting scene for uh Ben Stiller's character, RDJ's character goes and to rescue him, and they're he's they're making their escape back to the helicopter, and then there's a there's a secret like Vietnamese soldier hiding like in a trapdoor in the ground and throws a grenade towards the helicopter, and Ben Stiller's character pushes the grenade out with his hands, and the there's an explosion, and then in the aftermath, we discover that Ben Stiller's character's hands have been blown off. And Robert, yeah, Rob uh Lincoln Osiris is like, oh boy, he's like, look at you, man. Playing with grenades. I'm gonna do it this whole episode, baby. I've been training my whole life for this. And then like this interaction is so funny when he's like, I can't feel my hands or whatever. Like he picks up his hand, he's like, oh boy, oh boy. And then Ben Stiller's character is like, When we get back to the States, I will teach you how to juggle. So now it's like this over the top crying scene between the two of them, and you were you were my br you were my brother. And then this is when we it's the reveal that this is they're they're filming a scene, and that they're Ben Stiller's character is like getting he's getting weirded out because he thinks, you know, Robert Downey Jr.'s Kirk Lazarus is just clearly doing too much for the crying. He's like drooling and slobbering. So that he like loses, and then it just is the scene's not working, they cut the scene, and then behind the scenes, we get introduced to Danny McBride's character, who is like the expl like the explosives guy. He's yeah, he's like he's their explosives expert, and he's been he's rigged the valley that they're filming with explosives.

SPEAKER_01 46:40

And they got those big jets coming in for the what's gonna be a massive scene in it.

SPEAKER_02 46:44

Yeah, a big explosion scene, and it like the jets are like two minutes out, and he's I need to know are we gonna blow this thing or not? Yeah, we his introduction is so funny.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

And then we see that the director is a first-time director because he can't figure out how to work his his walkie-talkie to be able to communicate to him. Because he's talking into the mic, he's talking into the walkie-talkie, but Danny McBride isn't getting there, right?

SPEAKER_02 47:05

Yeah, he's he's trying to get a hold of him, but he can't, because there he needs to get I need confirmation if we're gonna We're gonna blow this thing up.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

Dude, Danny McBride is such a national treasure. This whole movie, like all the all the would-be like great talent comedians is in it. You got Jack Black, Brandon T, RDJ can do comedy, Danny McBride, the skinny kid.

SPEAKER_02 47:28

Yeah, yeah. So so Danny McBride's introduction, he's like, yeah, he's like, are we gonna blow up this tree that I don't know? He's like, Tugtuck and Kim got the blue balls, and I want to let them squirt it for a cup. And then the guy, one of the men, gives him a box. He's like, that's C4 dipshit. I said, I would need a detonator. And he's like, I need some dudes that speak American, goddammit. He's like, he's making a fucking sweater back here. I'm trying to put tiger bomb in this jungle's nuts.

unknown 47:53

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

Dude, he's so fucking funny.

SPEAKER_01 47:56

So fucking hilarious, dude. But he said he's making a sweater back.

SPEAKER_02 48:02

Bro.

SPEAKER_00 48:03

Oh my god, dude, that dude's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

So the scene is falling apart, and Robert Dennis Jr.'s character is gonna go, I need to make a pee-pee. And then in the director's cut, like again, the lines go longer. He's like, You want to hold my dick? So he goes the he like the scene is falls apart. Damien, the director, Damien Cockburn, is he's having a pissy fit. He's getting, he's, you know, he's having a you know, he's crashing out basically, and he's he's cussing, and then Danny McBride's, that's the sign. Let's go go. So the the jets fly by and then Danny McBride fucking sets off the alarm, big ass titties, and like it's a huge explosion, and then we discover that the cameras weren't even rolling, so they didn't even capture the nope. It's like a a four million dollar four million dollar explosion that they had that they just did, and now it's like e it's like a fake e-news segment talking about the drama going on in the Tropic Thunder set.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

We find out that it's a month delayed, four days in a shooting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:58

It's so ridiculous. And then it's the they're they're it's like the piece breaking down all the actors. They, you know, that's when they talk about the the procedure that Robert Jenny Jr.'s character went through, and they do the, you know, that they show a little bit on of Jack Black's character, how he's clear like a drug addict, and then there's the the there's an interview between Ben Stiller and Tyra Banks where she's like, You're on the wrong side of 40. Someone close to you said one more flop and it's over. And he's his response is Someone who said they were close to me. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 49:31

He's literally going off on how his career is spiraling down. He goes, Someone said they're close to me.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

His one takeaway is that somebody said they were close to him. Fucking amazing, amazing. Um and then he gets a call from Ben Sler gets a call from his agent played by Matthew McConaughey, Rick Peck, and he's this interaction is fucking it's so good. They're talking, he's talking about that you know, they're they're arguing about the scene, and Rick Peck, Matt McConaughey's like, you know, if if he's if if RDJ's crying, then you cry harder, or whatever. He's like, didn't you have a dog that had like leukemia or something?

SPEAKER_03 50:04

They use that.

SPEAKER_02 50:06

And then they're doing like their bullshit. Yeah, yeah. His big the whole his big thing, the whole movie, McConaughey's thing is that Ben Stiller's character, he got the TiVo in your contract. Yeah, he fought hard for TiVo and his contract, and they've not set it up. That's like his big hang-up. And then he's like, you know, when he asks him, like, well, how's the adoption thing going? And he's and then Ben Stiller's like, oh, not good. And then McConnell is fucking such a dark joke. He's like, Well, at least he got his yours. I'm stuck with mine. It's just a picture of him and his son. He's just so like disappointed that that's his son. And in the director's cut, when he asks him how adopt the adoption's going, it when he's when he Ben Stiller's like, oh, I don't know. And then it goes longer and actually shows so in the in the director's cut, he there is a kid he's adopted, and it's like this, it's a little Vietnamese kid, and he's wearing like like a military uniform, he has he has like a bandan, he's like he has like a knife, and he's like in like a little like play pan, but it's almost like a cage, and they have like two like Vietnamese soul like soldiers behind him, like watching the kid, and Ben Slow's like, I don't know, feels like all the good ones are taken. And like it's I was like, oh my god, like that was like that's pretty ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 51:14

What the So then he has two Vietnamese kids.

SPEAKER_02 51:17

Yeah. Yeah, it's so funny. It's I was like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 51:21

And what a crazy foreshadowing that would have been if it was a theoretical cut.

SPEAKER_02 51:24

It was I I I can see why they cut that joke. I'm like, that's maybe an inch an inch too far, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

But well, they played the line the whole movie.

SPEAKER_02 51:32

Yeah, and uh, and so yeah, Rick hangs up angry about the TiVo thing, and then now you know, so now and then Damian Cockburn, the director, is gonna have this when we get our first introduction to Tom Cruise. So Tom Cruise plays a studio head by the name of Les Grossman. They tried to keep this secret throughout the whole movie, the the appearance. But so I guess I think originally Tom Cruise was asked to play the direct the agent, McConaughey's role, and Tom Cruise kind of said, Well, what if what if we do like the like an angry studio head or something like that like he kind of worked with Ben Stiller to kind of come up with the character, and a lot of what the character is kind of came from Tom Cruise. Like, what if he's loud and he has big hands and he's bald and he dances? And like yeah, Tom Cruise is the guy. I told Ben Stiller, okay, I want fat hands and I want to dance. And Tom Cruise like took it seriously, like he took like dance lessons, like hip-hop dance classes, like learn how to dance for the movie because the character and he's like a so the less grossman character is kind of inspired by there's these two one I think is Harvey Weinstein, which was a creep. The creep, who was a even beyond all his creep stuff, was just known as being very loud, treating people like treating actors like shit, just being very hard to work with, and another producer by the name of Scott Rudin, very similar, very similar, not not the creep like Weinstein, but he was known for talking down to people on this insane outbursts with talent, directors, actors, whatever the case may be. So that's kind of where he's getting the inspiration from for this character. So Les Grossman is this over-the-top, loudmouth, cursing, you know, big, balding studio head played by Tom Cruise. One of Tom Cruise's best performance. And I think the like that, like Robert Jenny Jr. and Tom Cruise, I think are the two biggest like takeaways from the movie.

SPEAKER_01 53:14

So that's what I was gonna ask you earlier. I was gonna ask you who stole the show. Because when I like when I was like looking up like points and like anything that I could have missed, that was a big point that was in the movie. That's Tom Cruise's character stole Les Grossman stole the movie.

SPEAKER_02 53:27

I think I think for me it's Robert Johnny Jr., but Tom Cruise is a close second. I just I it's to see him do that, like it's just something he would never he like for a long time, like it's like I I I could just could I could never see him doing something like that again. I think he actually is gonna do something similar this year. He has a movie coming out where he's wearing a bunch of prosthetics. Oh no. It's supposed to be like a comedy because it's called Digger. So we'll see what happens there.

SPEAKER_01 53:50

But I doesn't do the Christian Bell thing where he just gets fat.

SPEAKER_02 53:53

Yeah, no, he doesn't do that. He doesn't do the fat suit in this. He's wearing a fat suit in this.

SPEAKER_01 53:58

Dude, not to get into too much of a tangent, but the reason why I know about like the the executive producers and how it is to be like the uh to deal with movie heads and stuff, I don't know if it came out like around the same time, but by the time I saw the movie, I had already watched Entourage. And Entourage does a really good job of like they even like depict Harvey as one of the the studio heads, and you see how studio heads can hold grudges, and they if a studio like you said in the last movie about uh Bradley Cooper, he had made Universal or what was the studio? Whatever studio Bradley Cooper had made money for. Oh Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers, you see that they have a good working, like you said, they have a good working relationship. Yeah, but Entourage is the reason I know that, and that just made me appreciate less less Grossman even more because that shit was hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 54:41

Yeah, so yeah, so our first intro here to him is is hilarious. He's he asked uh one of the key grip guys to punch the director in the face. He wants control of the movie, and Cockburn's complaining that, oh, you know, these actors are a bunch of prima donnas, and he's like, he's like, you yeah, if you have a problematic actor, he's like you just pull their pants out and spank their ass. Um and in the director's cut, I there's a fun, like, because the when they're trying to get the connection, Bill Hader's character is like, oh, somebody get him a Diet Coke. And then at the end, like at the end of the scene, there's like three Diet Cokes appear on the screen, like everyone trying to hand Les Grossman a Diet Coke. It's always like, oh, that's funny. But and then we get another we get our introduction scene to well not intro, because we meet Nick Nolte's character, four leaf briefly in the crying scene, but this is like his first dialogue scene on screen, and he's like he he d prompts this idea or gives this idea of you know if if you need the actors to to get to give you the real stuff, like let's take them somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 55:44

Like I know a place that'll You're putting it so much better than he said it.

SPEAKER_02 55:47

Yeah, I mean yeah, he's basically you know, he's like he's like, fear that's what makes him a man. What does he say? He says he's he says uh I know I know a place where a man's worth is measured by his ears hanging off his dog tags. So he basically he he he gives the idea to let's take the actors off the set and take them somewhere real so they can drop the whole pansy ass like Jack they're doing and the whole D.Va. And then Les Grossman's like, Who is this guy? Yeah, and then like oh that's for Leaf, he's the guy he wrote the book. And then he's like, Wow, you're a great American. He's like, This nation owes you a huge debt.

SPEAKER_03 56:19

He's like, No, shut the fuck up and let me do my job.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

Bro, one of the best scenes when he goes, America owes your great dad. Now shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_02 56:33

So now we've got the premise of the movie where they're gonna drop these actors into real country, real jungle, and they're gonna kind of film the rest of the movie guerrilla style. Damien kind of goes off book with four leaf to do this, and they take Danny McBride's character, they're gonna rig the jungle with explosives and stuff like that, and and cameras, so they can get real reactions from the actors, I guess. That's kind of the idea. So they drop the actors in the jungle off the set away from their assistants and producers and catering. They took a helicopter right too. Yeah, because McBride's character is a pilot, so they they drop him in the jungle, and now Cockburn gives his big speech about you know what they're gonna do, and he's he takes all their cell phones, destroys yeah. We get the comment from Robert, he goes to get Robert Dennon Jr.'s cell phone, he's like, Ain't no cell phone 69, maybe I'm authentic head to toe. And so now now, and then so he gives this, you know, I am you know, this this he holds this camera is God and I am Jesus Christ, his son. And then he the director turns around, like, now let's make the greatest war movie ever made, steps on a landmine, boom, explodes. And uh it's funny because he's like riled up the actors, like, yeah, and then he explodes, and Jack Black's like, yeah, like he's not sure what to do. And all the actors, like the actors are confused. Robert Danny Jr.'s kind of like something seems off. And he knows right away. He's like, he's dead. He's like, and then Ben Stiller's like thinks it's like movie magic, and he picks up the head and he's like licking the inside the guts. He's like, it's just corn syrup and whatever. And he's like tasting corn syrup. Yeah. So the actors they decide they're gonna go get in scene, and they start filming the they start filming their scene, and while they're doing the the take, Robert Deniger's character is like, This motherfucker dead, man.

SPEAKER_03 58:21

Ain't no Chris Angel mind freak, David Blaine trapdoor bullshit.

SPEAKER_00 58:27

I lost it when you made that comedy, dude. I hadn't thought about a mind freak in forever.

SPEAKER_03 58:33

It's so funny, dude. It's like no Chris Angel mind freak. Ain't no Chris Angel mind freak, David Blaine trapdoor bullshit.

SPEAKER_00 58:41

Bro, the dialogue is so good.

SPEAKER_02 58:44

And so now, and then they the landmine has alerted like a local drug drug ring basically called the Golden Triangle. Or is it the Golden Triangle? Yeah, the Golden Triangle.

SPEAKER_01 58:56

Golden Dragon.

SPEAKER_02 58:56

Is it the Golden Dragon?

SPEAKER_01 58:57

I think so.

SPEAKER_02 58:58

Maybe. Yeah, I think you're right. And so and Golden Dragon. And then yeah, and then oh yeah, I think they call it the Golden Triangle because in that they make the Bermuda Triangle juggling.

SPEAKER_01 59:08

No, no, no. The Golden Tri it's the triangle of where uh heroin comes from. Right, right. Yeah, because they're not even in NAM anymore.

SPEAKER_02 59:15

No, they've left, they're not, they're out of Vietnam. Yeah. So and so Danny McBride and Four Leaf, they're at a they're at a like a vantage point far away, so they can, you know, and they're they have radio communication with Damien so they can know when to start blowing explosives. And it alerts the Golden Dragon, this local heroin drug trade group, and they these armed guards show up and they're they're monitoring them. They see Ben Stiller's character like licking the head, and they're like, he doesn't they they don't fear death, whatever it is. And they begin fire shooting at the at the actors, and the act and everybody except Robert Danny Jr. believes it's fake, and like Downey's like, Oh yeah, because then and then right before this is when Stiller's like, okay, well if if it's all fake, if it's real, then why are you still in character? I know, I know why. I don't buy you. He's like, and then he's like, why? And then he's like, Man, I don't drop characters, I've done the DVD commentary. And they follow up with that joke because there is a DVD commentary and he's in character the entire time, Robert Danny Jr. I watched, I watched parts of it on YouTube. It's so funny, man. It's so funny. I'm gonna watch it.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:20

There's like a part Oh, is that what you sent me? Because I didn't get to watch what you texted me.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:24

No, I sent you like a behind the scenes. Oh, okay. And then I and then there's the the video, there's the the special, like, there's like the bonus feature documentary of how Robert Danny Jr.'s character, like good going like deep into the character. That's so funny. But in the commentary, there's a funny line where because like they're filming the commentary, and for those of you that don't know what it is, it's when they actors or directors or producers or people involved with the movie, they they watch the movie and then record themselves talking over it, basically. And so this the commentary for this movie is Ben Stiller, Robert Jenny Jr. and Jack Black. And Jack Black shows up late to the recording, and so when he gets there, Robert Jenny Jr. is like giving him shit the whole time, and then Jack Black's talking about like, oh yeah, you know, I got up like at five in the morning. You know, the reason why I'm late, you know, is my the baby woke up at five, and then Robert Jenny Jr.'s like, Jack, miss me with that shit, mate.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:18

It's so fucking funny, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:22

Also, seeing Jack, my favorite performance of Jack Black is Nacho Libre.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:28

So seeing him, because I haven't seen much of him for like obviously school rock and that's but I haven't seen anything of him. So seeing him go from I imagine him being Nautil every day to the way he cusses and acts in this movie. I forgot how I forget how good of an actor he is.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:44

Yeah, when he's in character and he has like like the I guess like the New York accent, he's like, give me some some boom boom now. Yeah, the the the lions are so good in this movie, and Jack Flacca, he's playing like a like a like a drug addict going through he's with a withdrawing drug addict right now because he hasn't he a bat steals his his cocaine. So and then he's like eating the bat trying to get his drugs back. So the at now the yeah, so now the actors are there's a there's a shootout, they Ben Slower thinks it's fake, they all start shooting back their with their fake guns.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:18

I was gonna ask, they have fake guns the whole time?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:20

Yeah, they're fake guns, they're shooting blanks.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:22

That's fucking hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:24

And so the and the the soldiers don't know they're fake, and then Ben Slater throws a grenade, a fake grenade, and then Danny McBride see he hears the the the gunfire and thinks.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:35

Holy shit, they're firing off down there.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:36

Yeah, so then they he sets off his explosive, which scares off the the drug the the guards or whatever, and they so they leave, and now you know Ben Silver and that's See, that's a trailer.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:49

That's a trailer. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:52

And so they've so Ben Stiller's convinced it's this is all part of the because Damien says told him before he died that you know if you think it's real, if you think it's real, it's probably you know It probably is probably is or whatever it is. Like he's pretty much like he set them up to think that there's gonna be all kinds of stuff that they're not aware of that to to get them in ready, so he thinks it's it's part of the movie. So the and then some of the actors kind there kind of believe him, but they also kind of don't. But Downey's character is like is like, no, this is not like this is not real.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:20

He's like, hey, dipshit.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:22

So they start traveling through the Damien had given Stiller's character Stiller the map the map of where to go, and then they have he has the scene list. So they begin, they proceed, and then Downey's character Downey's like, How about you give us the map? And Ben Still's like, no, I'm I'm in charge, like I'm the lead, or this is my you know, I'm in charge here. So he keeps the map and they proceed through the jungle, and yeah, then then yeah, yeah, Four Leaf and Cody find the dead director after and then this is and then they get captured. What does he say? Oh no, because they they start fighting him and the four leaf start fighting, and then yeah, and then Jamie, this is when Danny McBride says, like, Oh, I I can't I can't do this again, man. Like I almost blind to Jamie Lee Curtis on Freaky Friday. Like my I'll be I'll be done after this. And they get they get into a scuffle, and then it four leafs so in the movie, four leaf up at this point, he's wearing these like hook for hands because he's uh supposedly he got his hands. Lost his hands, which is what the movie like they portrayed in the beginning. And then when McBride pulls the hooks, they come off his arms, and then it's like they get then they get captured, captured at gunpoint, and then Nick Nolte's character, Four Leaf, raises his hands and it revealed that he has hands. And then McBride's like, what the fuck? So and then later on in the movie, we discover that Forleaf is a fake. He's wasn't he never served in Vietnam, he was never even in the army or the military. Never even left the states. He's yeah, yeah, he said, never left the states, and he was Coast Guard, sanitation unit. You were a fucking janitor.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:54

Bro, I really don't believe Danny McBride is acting. I think he just reacted. He's just himself at all times. I don't think so, dude. He's fucking hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:03

I love Danny McBride. It's so why isn't he bigger and why is he in more shit?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:06

I mean, he does he does a lot of TV stuff now. He writes, he creates and directs his own stuff now, pretty much. That's kind of what he does.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:12

I don't need him behind the scenes. I need that for saying the most absurd shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:15

Yeah, you gotta watch the HBO shows, dude. That's kind of where he's been the last little bit. He did a lot of the TV stuff. They're fun, dude. They're funny, they're so funny. So now that they've been captured, and then Danny Mc so that the actors are still they're going through the jungle, and they're all you know, Downey's trying to get the map back, and he's like pretending to bond with with Stiller, and then they get into the uh they start talking about his role in Simple Jack. Like Downey's trying to he's trying to like bond with him to kind of get him to see the map. Yeah. And now, you know, Jack and this whole time Jack Black's character is going through withdrawals, he's trying to find drugs.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:56

What are they called? What is he calling? His vitamins, jelly beans,

SPEAKER_02 1:06:00

Jilly beans and he so he so the Downy and Staler get into this this this is like the big the big scene where he's talking about simple Jack and let's see what's whatever is Jack Damn I don't remember it off the top of my head he goes well I have like parts of it how does he go he goes never go full retard man yeah goes for his gump braces slow maybe but he trumped Prance off Nixon damn near war hero something like that I can't remember the full thing yeah so he's talking Stiller's talking about how like the Tug Speedman character is talking about when he was playing Jack there was times where he felt where he felt retarded like really retarded and Gert's like he's like damn he's like he's like in a weird way it felt like it was okay to be stupid or dumb he's like to be a moron to be moronical an imbecile like the dumbest motherfucker that ever lived and still he's like when I was playing as a character and then and then he he like kind of he he tells him like oh like that you know that's really brave of you especially knowing how the academy feels about that shit and then Stiller's like wait what he's like come on man like don't act like you don't know and he's like what do you mean he's like man he's like never go for never go for retard and then uh he's like what do you mean he's all check it out he's like yeah Dustin Hoffman Raymond look retarded advertising not retarded count of toothpicks cheater cards artistic show show not retarded you know Tom Hanks force gum slow yes retarded maybe braces on his legs but he turned the pants off Nick Sidney won a ping pong competition that ain't retarded he was a goddamn war hero you ain't even tired of war heroes you went full retard man never go full retard you don't buy that as Champagne 2001 I am Sam remember went full retard went home empty handed I don't even think you wanted to cover the movie I think I just want to do quotes I just want to show off my my quotes man or my impressions to that that's that's this is like you said this is the whole reason I started the podcast is to do this. So yeah they're they're traveling through the jungle and they're kind of they're bickering and Downey's character is trying to get Jay Barishell's character to in the whole movie they don't they can't remember his name they keep calling him McCluskey and chip like his name is Kevin Sandusky and nobody can remember his name and like nobody even like remembers him and he's so he's in his character is the only one who he discovers his the only one who read the book about the movie's based on read the script he's the only one that went to the boot camp to to prep so he kind of and then because of that they think like hey can you read the map yeah I think so so he's trying to get him the map because he goes if I can get you the map he can get us out of here. Yeah and so Downey and Stiller are trying to get him on their side and then Downey again tries you know starts hype uh gassing up Stiller's character about his physique and man you know uh Rambo one you know Stallone he was you know he was a little puffy but you know Rambo two he got all cut up asked you right now man looking like Rambo two and then he takes the map give me that goddamn map and then he's like pissed off and then this is when Barishov's characters explains that they've been going the wrong way the entire time that they're supposed to go one direction and they're now on the opposite side of wherever they're supposed to be find out that they're not even a Nom anymore.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:17

Yeah they're not a NAM and he goes on to like he's like I read the end flight thing this is we're in the triangle.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:23

Yeah and so now Stiller's character wants to continue on where his path to film the movie he thinks and Downey and them are like no we need to go back find the chopper like get help find the chopper get out of here and they try to convince him to go he says no so Tug goes his own way and you know he's like we're supposed to be a unit suck my suck my unit greatest one of the greatest night of the movie suck my unit so they split up so the all the actors go one direction and Tug goes on his own because in the he he thinks he's following the script because this is the part of the movie where the character's on his own anyways when he gets captured or whatever whatever and so we get we go through like the journey of Tug Speedman going through the jungle alone and he's camp. Yeah he makes camp at night and he he's like losing it and the oh yeah and then and and earlier in the film he had hidden a satellite phone that Rick had given his agent had given him don't we gift that yeah so he has a satellite phone but he's so it's night it's raining there's thunder there's a storm he's in like this tent that he's made and then he hears something in the in the jungle then he pulls out a knife and it attacks whatever he thinks it is and and stabs it to death and we hear it's like growling we think it's some sort of wild animal and it's revealed to be a panda and earlier in the movie he he had a he did a photo shoot with the panda and so dude the scene when it reveals the panda like in the big little eyes like a scared face like it's so it's obviously it's fucked up because we love pand people love pandas we know that pandas aren't aggressive but it's so like and then he's blown away like he's disgusted he screams into the into the the storm and then when we see him again he's wearing the panda like fur like the head and the paws and then Rick calls him and then like he's telling Rick I killed the thing I love the most oh god you killed the hooker oh no and he's like okay you need to get bleach on some bleach some uh uh what is it like a like a hydrogen like peroxide and uh a ton of lime a ton of lime I was like what the fuck is the lime for it's so yeah no no a panda Amanda that probably wasn't even a real name bro everybody did so good and then so he's talking about that and then in this conversation he's like he Tug Speaman's like lost his mind he's like losing his mind or whatever and and uh and the fact that he just puts the panda head over his like he just like the lion like Hercules with a lion bro so funny he starts wearing his paws like as his hands then he draws the one circle with the black circle around his eye yeah and then so again the conversation turned we he he's like I'm in the jungle now like he's and I'm in it now. I am the set he says and and then Rick asks about the TiVo and then he's like and then Tug is like no and he's like but it doesn't matter now he's he's like I know the TiVo doesn't matter you know he's like no but but last I remember that they had hooked it up and this triggers Rick I fought for this in your contract he's like that's it I'm going if my friend wants a television recording device he gets it yeah and so then Rick decides he's gonna go he's gonna go to Les to fight to yell at him about about the TiVo and so when and then so that's happening and then Yeah so then Rick goes to see Les Grossman and he storms in to yell at him about the TiVo and then at this time and then Tug has been captured by the the golden dragon and he goes to confront Les and so Tug is and Tug thinks it's part of the movie. He's still but still his character still thinks he's in the movie and he thinks it's all it's all like fake and these are actors or whatever whatever it is and and he's captured and he's held captive and yeah he thinks he's messing like messing like with like a stunt guy or whatever it is and then he slowly becomes he slowly realizes it's actually real.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:31

Like Ben Stiller's getting taken he's kind of going like alright alright let's do this then he goes can I say the line again and then he does it again like run the line he thinks he's filming a scene because he sees a camera in the room that he's in he thinks it's he thinks they're doing a scene.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:44

Yeah he thinks that it's still a movie while it's the compound where the drugs are at yeah and is this where we get the scene where uh they call him back right yeah so so the they this is when the they he they take him to the boss the boss of the golden dragon's a 12 year old kid named Tran and when he's beating him and then when he's beating him Tug says a line he says something like whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:11

Yeah yeah and then say that again yeah and then it turns out the golden dragon they're all fans of simple jack it's like which hold on before we get further this movie's already over the top with like everything so the fact that they made the main made the main antagonist a 12 year old kid even better.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:27

It's ridiculous just goes along with the movie he's like the hardest person in the movie just has a scar on his side of his face bro and so that it turns out that they're big fans of Simple Jack. It's like the only it's the only movie they have they have it on VHS. He's disappointed that they have it on BHS too he's like I think one of them is like you weren't even nominated like you should have been nominated he's like thank you or whatever. Oh no he goes he goes I mean he's like you should have won an Oscar he goes well just to be nominated he goes but you weren't nominated no but I mean if I would have just gotten so they're big fans of it and then they decide they're gonna use they're gonna ransom him so then they call the the satellite phone back Rick and they they demand money.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:07

They do they want 150 million dollars for the simple jack or whatever it is and then this is when Rick is Rick is in Les's office arguing about the Tebow and Les takes the phone from from Rick and um we get one so the I hadn't seen this movie but the audio on Vine I knew it the what you're about to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:28

This is because I think the first thing he says is literally what does he say he says uh now I want you to take a step back and literally fuck your own pace dude that was such a online that was such a thing and I didn't know that it was from that movie. Yeah this movie dude this movie would go on to create so many memes yeah dude the the Tom Cruise stuff is so yeah he was like I don't know uh what he's like I don't know what kind of pan Pacific bullshit power play you're trying to pull here but Asia Jack is my territory No oh that's when the he thinks that uh because he's like we are the golden dragon yeah I've never even heard of your organization your agency yeah he thinks it's somebody else yeah trying to poach trying to poach him but he's what he's like I'm gonna head down there and he's I will I will raid an ungodly fucking firestorm upon you like you're gonna have to call the fuck United Nations to get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I'm talking scorched earth motherfucker I will massacre you I will fuck you up and it goes back to the people the golden dragon they're all like what? Like they're like what the bambooz of this like what is going on and then he hangs up find out who that was yeah find out who that was and then doesn't even know who they are my god dude it's so it's so good he's so good in this the fact that they're like they're seen as like a potential like rebel agency while they're being kidnapped by a drug yeah and then and then uh in yeah so then basically then like the the I guess the dilemma then becomes that they just they find out who they are and then Les they just Les just tells Rick that they're just rather than rescue him they'll let him be taken or killed or captured and they'll they'll file the insurance claim and they'll get a payout and he bribes Rick McConaughey's character saying lots of money lots of money and a G five jet G five airplane lots of money player and this is when when they turn on he turns on the music and him and Bill Hader are dancing to low but the flow rider Tom Cruise's character Les Grossman loves to dance in this movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:37

Bro so fucking just starts dancing and then he just goes G five you play ball we play ball I know you want the goodies I know you want the goodies you want me to betray my friend for G five and money a person who's been my client for 15 years yes and lots of money player so like bro hold on before we move on I love not a lot of people know this but he's 5'8 shout out my short kings yeah he's a little guy Josie catching strays Josie again I'm sorry Josie we're the same height so he fucking what I read was that he was standing on Apple boxes and what they did was Bill Hader because Bill Hader's pretty tall too they would shoot him in the back and then Tom Cruise closer to the camera so and then it was always when we got that that angle was I was like why is it at a weird angle from behind McConaughey's they do that a lot for Tom Cruise because he like in all the movies he's they make him appear bigger than there's a lot of leading actors who are not as tall as the movies make them think make you think they are but I fucking he's my shortcut I love Tom Cruise I'm such a big Tom Cruise guy I haven't I don't think I've I haven't done a Tom Cruise movie on the show yet but I will but I guess that uh that scene where he uh he's on them or when they're doing that face-to-face scene he's on Apple boxes yeah okay I was like what yeah and so yeah so he he wants so in like the scene kind of Rick is kind of contemplating the decision like but yeah man I fucking love Tom Cruise that's my that's my guy dude that's my guy what was your first Tom Cruise movie probably let's see here no I'm not saying when he starred in no no one like when it was my first one that I saw I I mean I can't remember I mean it was probably like early on it would have been like a Top Gun or Cocktail Jerry Maguire first one I saw was Outsiders. Great yeah that's a great movie I saw it in school and I was like hey that's Tom Cruise I was like when the fuck did he do have those teeth?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:39

Yeah well that was before that was before you got that glove I got him fixed baby for the money came in yeah I love that guy every time every time a new Mission Impossible movie comes out and he does some crazy stuff never seen one every time I oh dude Mission Impossible is great.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:51

I just I saw that sick assign he was doing in the for the most recent one every time I leave a movie of his lately those movies when he's doing crazy shit I'm like I could do it should I join Scientology that's an hour I thought you were calling with you boy let's go stand by the building bro I love Tom Cruise man I support that man love him I haven't seen too many movies I've never even seen Top Gun Top Gun Maverick is a fucking a save save America save theaters have you been to the house?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:21

I think they moved it I think it's now it's somewhere else now it was in Oceanside and I think now they've moved it somewhere I think it's still in Oceanside but I've never I've never been there no fuck have you never been to the house I don't want to own the house man you've never been to the legit so now we're we get we come back with the remaining remain the remaining actors and they've found the flame dragon's heroine factory and then yeah Barishall gives them kind of the rundown of what it is and they see that Stiller's character is being tortured and they decide that they're gonna rescue him basically and so then I love how he's still yelling for the director as he's yelling toward you yeah he's like they're like they're like dumping him in in like the waterboarding yeah they're kind of yeah and it's they're drowning him in a sense and he's got asked he's trying to call cut what's his name the director's name Cockburn Cockburn Cut every single time he came out of the water like oh he's dead and and so now we've been getting a lot of the like Kirk Lazarus Downey's character and Al Pacino's character have been kind of going back and forth the entire movie because Downey's character is playing a black man and Al Pacino is a black man. Yeah. Brandon T. Jackson not actually Al Pacino but so he's been giving him shit throughout the movie and even like earlier in the movie when Stiller's like like what is it with you people that it's Lazarus. What do you mean you people what do you mean you people and like and then like yeah and like he's just giving him shit and he's like when he's talking about all the foods he wants to make man I get excited about my foods. And then he's like oh like yeah because we all talk like this huh we all talk like this he goes on about the crawfish and they've yeah they they've been beefing it for like a or he's been you know Al Pacino's been giving him shit and Lazarus has been kind of ignoring him for the most part and because he tells them he's like he's like you know I why am I in this movie? He's like because I just knew I had to represent because they read one good part in here for a black man that gave the crocodile dun Dumpy break is a national treasure and then he's like I just want to throw another shrimp on your Barbie that shit ain't funny. And he goes I'm sorry, baby. You know it's a true story right lady lost kid you're about to cross some fucking lines and then he goes he goes to sma to to punch him no no no he goes this koala hugging what does he say he says the n-word. No obviously I know that one koala hunting yeah he's like telling me he's about to he's about to attack him and Kirk grabs his fist or no he smacks him he's uh Kirk smacks him down he smacks Brandon T Jackson and then Brandon T. Jackson goes to punch him he grab he grabs the punch pulls him into a hug and he starts for 400 years that word has kept us down. He's like what the fuck and then he's like he's uh he starts uh uh reciting these lyrics and then Al Pacino's like confused and he goes back he's like that's a theme song the Jefferson just because it's a theme song don't make it fucking true don't make it not fucking true and then he's like he's like I'm gonna tag you back I'm gonna tag you back man you didn't see it coming and so yeah so and now they're they're gonna come up with a plan to save Speedman and it's night and Jack Black's character is like going through like the worst of the withdrawal at this point he tells he tells Jay Berrishell like hey man you gotta tie me up like and no matter what I say I'm lying you cannot let me down like I he like he like confesses that he's a drug addict and everybody's like oh like he's like you know those things I were eating they weren't jelly beans so they tie him to a tree and he's like and then it's it's the night before their mission the before they're gonna wait we have them back to throw back to our first pod that night that night that they're about to go risk it all they have that one heart to heart which is what they're doing here.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:21

Yeah they're having the heart be heart they're having the heart to heart before they go off and potentially get killed yeah and then let's see what the fuck did he say yeah we start off with RDJ no he's talking about like his how why he struggles with his identities yeah because they're oh I'm just trying to find the and then Brandon T. Jackson opens up and then Kevin opens up but I don't remember what the fuck he's yeah I'm just trying to find the oh I don't have it on here.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:50

It's fine. But yeah so they're they're kind of there they're yeah it's it's like it's the night before so they're having their bonding moment like you said before they go off and and then they're talking about you know back home and and Lincoln Downey asks Jay Berishall if he has somebody at home waiting for him and Berishall's like no I was hoping you know I was hoping I'd get laid off of this movie and then he goes to Al Pacino and Al Pacino's like he's in the back and he he's uh he's like oh man I got error Berishall's like oh you know Alpa he's got tons of pussies he's drowning a pussy or whatever it is and then he's like and he's like no like no I'm not talking about that man I'm talking about like the one like you want to settle down with and then he asks him he's Downey's talking to him and and he's like come on man you just gotta be somebody back home you want and then Alpa's like no like you know or he's like you know somebody you want to ask out on a date or whatever and he's like no I always wanted to I guess I just never had the courage to ask it was complicated and Downy's like it's simple as bi man you flat your feet on the ground look square in the eye you say hey baby you and me going on a date end of the story he's like what's the name and he's like Lance and everybody just gets up he's like you say listen here Lance he's like Lance Lance what the fuck did I just hear Lance and he's like did you just say Lance he's like no I said Nance he's like sounded like Lance and then he's like he's like damn it I'm Al Pacino I love the pussy I lay your ass back down look at the stars and then Kirk Lazarus is like he's uh when you wrote I love the pussy what are you thinking about dangling your dice on Lance's forehead bro that's like the funniest scene and then Jack Black comes in and he goes hey man I'll suck your dick if you get me off crater the balls stroke the chef swallow the gravy he's like come on get me down let's do this oh my god and so the next and then the next morning and then meanwhile they've been making Tug the golden dragon has been forcing Tug to reenact Simple Jack on stage for for them and so he's and they're like cheering him on and he's like kind of loving the attention and so the next morning now before we go on to that did you know RDJ gives him or the character gives him the flowers he goes he finally got it he finally got it oh yeah yeah he's like now I can empathize with this yeah what the he's like they're they're they're watching him on with through binoculars do this performance and yeah he's like just like man I thought the movie was best he's like oh he took my notes he's like you dialed back so the audience the audience can connect like yeah he's like giving him praise like this performance while he's being killed at gunpoint to perform the movie these fucking characters are so stupid man and so now the next morning is when they're gonna do their their rescue attempt Jack Black's character is still going crazy he wants to like eat a water buffalo or something like that and so they tie him to the water buffalo and Downey's character is going to pretend to be a farmer that found Jack Black another you know part of Tug's crew whatever it is that's gonna they're gonna get them in so the others the others can sneak in. And so the the guards are confronting Pacino or D Downey's character And Downey's uh you know, cause Downey's like, oh, I'm gonna speak, you know, Vietnamese. Like, no, man, Mandarin. Like, Mandarin's like how the hell you know Mandarin. He's like he lists some movie, he's like, I you know, I worked eight months in a textile factory and prep for the role. Like something ridiculous. That's why he knows Chin Mandarin.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:16

That's it. So it's so fucking ridiculous. And then you see that he wiped off the pigment a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:22

Yeah, he's like, so like the it's like it looks like lighter skinned on the road. Around the eyes? Around the eyes, and so he's talking to the guards, and his story is starting to like not add up a bit. Because he's I think he says he's a poppy farmer. Oh, he says he's a rice farmer. Rice farmer, and then he says he's a poppy farmer later.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:38

And then the the guard the lead trans is like, wait, like That's when he starts speaking in English, and he goes, Yeah, he's like, What is this strange language you're speaking? He goes, You are American.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:51

And then he's now like again, and I think Brandon T. Jackson and Jay Barisha's character are like they're hiding, they're about to get found out. And this is when he's outed, basically, they know he's an American, and he's like, you know, he's like, Where is your farm? And then we get the great line. Then Kirk creeped down, he pulls out two of the fake guns, starts unloading on everybody, they they start dropping.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:13

I'm a lid, farmer, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:17

So now it's chaos, the bearish shell goes. He they find um or I think yeah, Brandon T finds they find uh Danny McBride and Nolte, Tavak, tied up.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:28

Don't they pull up on them first and then Jack Black betrays him?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:32

Yeah, Jack Black Jack Flag pulls a gun out of his underwear and then takes Tran hostage and he's like, Well, they think he's gonna help, and he's like, take me to the drugs, because it's a heroin farm. I told you guys. So he takes Tran into where they have all the heroin, and so now Jack Black's trying to get his hands on the drugs. They find Danny McBride and Nick Nulty. Everybody's reacting to the fact that Nick Nolty's character has hands. Oh. Because they all they all thought he had the he had lost his hands.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:58

What the fuck he has hands? He goes, he's a fake. And um I realized this.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:03

And then they find Tug, or Downey finds Tug, and then yeah, because Brandon T. Jackson's holding them all down, holding them down with his fake gun because they don't know that they're not real yet. And Downey finds Tug who's Stiller who's like lost his mind. It's kind of like a parody of this movie called The Apocalypse Now. There's a character kind of a that kind of has this weird thing like that, but Stiller's like brainwashed apparently and doesn't want to leave.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:29

Is it because they gave him the Oscar?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:31

I think because they're they're praising him, right? Yeah, because the kid the kid gives him the little I have a son now? Yeah, he one of the one of the kids there he says is is his son, and now that they're Downey's trying to get him to leave with them, but he doesn't want he doesn't want to leave. Let's see right here, I'm gonna find it. Yeah, so he doesn't want to leave, and all of the characters are in there trying to get him to go, and then like Downey and Stiller get into this weird like acting exercise, and this is where we get the big trailer, the big trailer line. This was like the line of the trailer that everybody was quoting forever with Downey's character, and they're like talking about it's me, Tug, that's right now Tug who is and then he's like Tug's like Tug who, I don't know, who are you?

SPEAKER_03 1:31:20

And then Downey's like, Me, I know who I am, I'm a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:27

And then you a dude that don't know what dude he is, and then like they're going back and forth with this whole dude conversation, and it kind of like breaks Downey to the point where he's like, What am I doing? Like he kind of like he gets under Downey's skin, yeah, and then Downey starts proceeds to start ripping out, like he rips off the wig, he takes out his contacts, he has the blue, the blue eyes, the blonde hair. Why is the blue eyes? He has the blonde hair, and he starts talking in his Australian accent. Now he's Kirk Lazarus, he's no longer now out of character.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:57

How does he do it though? What is the line? He goes, I'm not, what's his name in the movie?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:02

Kirk Lazarus. No, no, no. Oh, Lincoln Osiris?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:04

He's like, I'm not Lincoln Osiris, and then he goes, I'm not for the McGulligan.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:07

Yeah, he starts doing all the out the different characters who are like And then he's dude, that's when I was like Kirk Lazarus or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:13

That's when I was like, oh man, how is he not like how did he not win? The accents, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:18

He does really well accents I'm not for the McGulligan? Yeah, so they've broken Downey, and then they all like start praising Stiller, like, oh like yeah, you were an inspiration, man. Like you're the reason why I got into movies. Oh, yeah, they started and then he's like, So who are you? And then like, and then like they praise him, do all this praise, and then he's like, it doesn't work, and then Barrish was like, ah, fuck it, and just grabs him, they'll figure this out later. And now they're escaping. Danny McBride's rigged the bridge that they're gonna run over with explosives, and then Nulty gets his moment to shine where he takes a flamethrower. There's like the they reenact the line. Because earlier in the movie, Danny McBride tells Nulty, like, Oh, I was a big, I might be your number one fan. Like, I I read your book back you know back multiple times, and he asks him, Oh, that's a nice sidearm you've got through. What what is it? And then Nulty's like, I don't know what it's called. I just know the sound it makes when it takes a man's life. And then so when McBride finds the flamethrower, he's like, What is that? I don't I don't know what it's called. I just know the sound it makes when it lies, or whatever like that. And then he g he gets uh Nolty said, like, tells McBride to go, like, go ahead and rig the bridge, and he'll stay behind. So he gets the the action scene with the flamethrower, he holds off all the guards and they steal a truck and they're escaping, and then the the golden dragon blows the truck up with an RPG, and then it's this is the parody scene of Saving Private Ryan, where Steeler wakes up and it's like shell-shocked, and like Jags on the ground, he's like, My ass!

SPEAKER_03 1:33:47

My ass.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:53

So it's it's kind of like it's a parody of saving private Ryan, but now it's also kind of it becomes like a re like a reimagining of the opening scene of the movie of like the war scene and when they're making it and Barrishell's characters injured, so they're carrying Barishell, and then Black, yeah, so they're they're getting to the chopper and then he gets his name right, Kevin. Yeah, because they keep saying his name wrong, and then Stiller's like, it's Sandusky. Kevin's Sandusky. That's my name. Yeah, that's my name. Oh my god, these people are such idiots. And then so they escape, or they start they they start running to the chopper, and Stiller's. They go, they cross the bridge, and then Stiller says, You guys go ahead, I'll stay behind.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:33

Believe it or not, I have a connection with him. I believe I have a connection with him. I have a son now.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:37

Yeah, so he's gonna stay behind because he thinks he's well he they'll accept him, he's one of them. So yeah. Kirk Downey tries to convince him to stay, but he's like, you know what, man, like he's a lost cause. He leaves, Stiller goes, and then like seconds later we hear him running and screaming, because Stiller comes running back. The kid, his son, quote unquote son,'s on his back, stabbing him in the shoulder.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:56

Just yeets him off the bridge.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:59

I was watching at the end of it yesterday. My my daughter, Penny, woke up from her nap and watched that part with me, and she's like, She's like, Oh, what happened to the kid? No. And so Stiller's running, and he's like, Blow it, blow it, a big explosion. He flies off, and then it's they think that Stillers died in the explosion. And so that now it's like it's Oh, TiVo saves the day. No, I know, I know, but it's catering when they blow the bridge.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:26

Hold on, hold on. Before we move on, Danny McBride just going, after this, I'm moving the catering. Yeah, yeah. As he's setting the wires up to blow everything up, he goes, after this, I'm moving the catering.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:35

They think that Stillers died, and then it they see him come up, he does this the same thing from the beginning, throws his arms up, and he's the music plays, and then down he runs to go get him. Oh, okay, okay. And then they'd recreate the the you know, they recreate the the dialogue scene from the beginning about Cover Meat. Yeah. What did he say? Yeah, cover me. He tells him again, but now he's Australian, so he's like he's doing the Australian accent. So he they rescue him, they get back on the chopper, and the Tran has the RPG, is gonna fire it at the he fires it at the chopper, and then who who appears out of the jungle but McConaughey with the TiVo.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:11

The TiVo!

SPEAKER_02 1:36:13

I got the TiVo and he sees the RPG, he throws the TiVo in the sky.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:18

TiVo blocks the RPG, sets it off because it's gonna hit the chopper. Yeah, so he saves the day.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:24

They escape, and then it uh it's like Stiller's face, and then it cuts to the Oscars, and that was the Oscar clip that played for his the his nomination. He's nominated for the Tropic Thunder, the true whatever it's called.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:39

What is it the making of the something that never was?

SPEAKER_02 1:36:42

Yeah. And he wins Stiller wins the Oscar.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:47

But it's so funny because Toby McGuire got nominated for the Saiyan's Alley.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:52

Saiyan's Alley movie. So Stiller wins, and then it well, yeah, because then and then earlier in the movie, Jay Berishell's character asks Downey's character, oh, is it true that you're with Jennifer Love Hewitt? You know, she's hot. She's so hot or whatever. And he's and then at the award show, Jay Berrishal's with Jennifer Love Hewitt as his date. Oh, and then and then Brandon T. Jackson is with Lance Bass.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:13

Bro, I lost it when that when they showed Lance, I fucking lost it. I was like, dude, this movie has everyone. Yeah, and so uh and then Danny McBride got an Oscar.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:23

Did does he get something? Or for special pride for speech? I'm guessing for special effects. I like special effects. But he's holding an Oscar, which I thought was a nice touch. You're right, you're right. And then it then it cut so they're watched that he's on the he g Stiller accepts his Oscar, and then it we it cuts to Tom Cruise's Less Grossman and Bill Haders character watching the Oscars on TV and they're like, you know, enjoying their success. It was because of you know, taking credit for everything or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:49

And he goes 400 million they made. He goes, eight Oscar wins, that's 400 million.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:54

Yeah, and you saved Tug Speaman's career unless I couldn't have done it without you. Really? No dick. Of course I could. This monkey could do your job. Now go get drunk and take credit at all the parties. Yeah, he's like, yeah, but seriously, another smokey could do your job. And then the movie ends with a fucking amazing Tom Cruise dancing to get back by Ludacris, fucking amazing dancing. I mean, if you guys just look at it by YouTube, it's fucking so cool. Fucking hilarious, dude. All the moves he's doing.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:20

Which you see that like he would go on to become what's it called, a thing because One Direction parried it in one of their videos.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:28

Yeah, and then he also, I think around the time of this movie at the MTV movie awards. Oh, he did just something. He performs with Jennifer Lopez in in makeup. In makeup. Such a crazy time to like to think that Tom Cruise would even do that. Like to do it in the movie is one thing, but then to come out on the on the MT movie awards.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:44

The MTV movie awards were so goaded.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:47

Back then they were back then they were so it was amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:50

It was every Sunday. You'd get like the 30 minutes before the TV uh red carpet, and then you'd watch the thing. Yeah. But I remember like, dude, I remember there was the one day I was at the beach and I was just like, dude, we gotta go home now. We gotta go home. And like, why? I was like, I can't explain it, but it's that I was just like, I used to watch them like religiously. Yeah, they're so good.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:07

They were fun, they were funny back then. There was a lot of good stuff. When did they follow? Probably like 2000. I feel like it was not surely after this year, like 2009, 10 is probably like the last good ones, I would say.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:19

I think all the way to like 15, and we're good.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:22

I don't think I I didn't watch, I wasn't watching them anymore at that point. This time I remember watching it because a lot of the like like the they would do a lot of the movie parodies where they would insert the host into like scenes from the movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:32

Dude, the one that was one of my favorite was I think it was the one they oh no, I don't think it was MTV, but the one they did it for the off the office where they had like everybody else playing. Oh yeah, yeah. I think that was the Emmys. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, but But the MTV movie awards, like the they always had someone dope playing the doing the live performances. Yeah. Like I didn't care about the awards, but the live performances were sick because we back then it was like Rihanna Kanye. And then we had the Kanye moment where he goes, I'm gonna let you finish. I'm gonna let you finish. Oh man. What at a time?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:01

This is 2008, man. What are you doing? 2008, what are you a good year, dude? This is this is like this is the year that I've talked about on the show. That's the this is like this is the year I'm becoming the movie fan, like the like the big movie buff. Like I'm falling, I'm in love with movies. I'm going off. This is Iron Man, Dark Matter.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:17

Tropic Thunder C U and the RCU. What's the RCU? Rudy Cinematic.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:23

Hey. I'm gonna pan that one. Yep. No, yeah. This is the year that starts it. Like I said, I talked about like 2007 was big for like Transformers, but then 2008 is like my year. It's that's Cloverfield's the beginning of the year. That was a big movie for me. That was a good one. Iron Man, Dark Knight, Tropic Thunder. Just great stuff, man. And then from then on I'm at the movies every weekend. I mean I'm going all up going to like throughout the s throughout the summer in particular. I'm at the movies every weekend.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:50

Am I tripping? Or is that back when they were like seven, seven, seven the seven fifty for like a ticket?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:55

Yeah, it was like eight bucks, yeah, seven, eight bucks. They were yeah, it was now it's what a time, bro. Now it's like twenty dollars.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:01

You can get a snack and not be in debt.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:03

Yeah, it yeah. Even back then it was like, oh, it's but like now it's like to go see a movie like in the uh local theater is like fifty sixteen bucks. How much do you spend when you go to the movies? Everything I have.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:17

So like we go to that one that theater that we like. I fuck what it's called.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:20

Angelica.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:21

Angelica. We go to Angelica. So Angelica, I every time I go, I'm like, I'm spending at least 70. Because it's I see. Yeah, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:29

I mean, I go if it's me and it's my wife, yeah, we're dropping 60. 60, 70 bucks.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:34

And that only gets you like the movie tickets.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:36

The tickets and like food.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:37

And like, dude, I fuck with their Supreme Nachos. Yeah. So bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:40

Teriaki, chicken, uh, terrifyers. There's these teriyaki fries I got there that are delicious. Oh my god. I love Angelic. Love that theater. Love that theater, great theater. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:48

Saw Sinners twice there?

SPEAKER_02 1:41:49

I bet you did. I know this is my first time. Is this my first time having you back on since I did the Sinners pod?

SPEAKER_01 1:41:54

Oh my god, dude. I was heated when I saw that post.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:58

I was heated. Sorry, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:01

It's alright. I got it. I was liking my linen. I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:07

But yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:08

I enjoyed that episode though.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:09

Sinners?

SPEAKER_01 1:42:10

Shout out to Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, all of your episodes have been doing really well.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:13

Hey, thanks, buddy. I appreciate you listening. Trying. I'm trying out here. But yeah, man, Tropic Thunder, dude. That's that's I it's fucking hilarious, man. It's fucking hilarious. I've loved this movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:23

Great movie. I I didn't know why you fucking pressed it on me so much. Because like you've been telling me for a while that this was my next movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:30

But the thing is uh I didn't get it. I was like, why? Like I didn't remember being this good. Yeah. I'm so glad that you like brought it back because I'm like, I remember the first half really well, and the first half is funny, but I had totally forgot the second act of the movie, and I was like, I don't remember it being this good, this well written, this funny. Everyone killed it.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:49

Yeah, and obviously, like the premise, it's like the second half of the premise, it's it's ridiculous. It's over the top, but it's the characters and the jokes. Like the jokes are so good. Like it's really it can be seen as juvenile humor, but it's just the the commitment from all of the actors in these characters.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:06

Like they all were winning play a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:08

You know, I highlight I highlight the Robert Dunning Jr. character a lot because I just I just find that. He just loves doing his impressions. I mean, I dressed up as him for Halloween one year. Oh, yeah. But I mean Jack Black does great shit in this movie. He has funny lines. I mean, we talked about the whole when he's tied the tree, the shit he's saying, it's so funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:23

So weird seeing him being that.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:27

Because I mean, now he's kind of known as like the family comedy guy, the family movie guy. And honestly, people need to start putting respect on Jack Black's name, dude. He's a great actor. He's been I mean, not only is that is he actually a great actor, but he's in a lot of huge movies. I mean, even recently, like the Jamanji films have all have both made almost a billion dollars. He's in those. The Minecraft movie, which he led. I haven't seen it, I haven't seen it, but it made over a billion dollars. Huge hit.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:55

No, yeah, he's fucking telling me.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:56

I mean, School of Rock, I love School. That's probably my favorite Jack Black movie, School of Rock. Nacho Libre.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:01

Mine is obviously not, dude. Nacho Libre. That's the next movie I want to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:06

We watched Priscilla had never seen all of it. Shut up. My wife had never seen the whole it in full. She'd seen pieces, so she put it on a couple like probably like a month or two ago. We we she put it on. I watched it with her, dude. And I've I haven't watched it in full in a while either. I mean, I watched it a bunch when I was a kid, and I remember laughing at it so much. You know, Nacho Libre.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:25

You didn't you didn't watch it with us in Vegas? It was like one of the two movies playing the whole weekend.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:28

Yeah, so we we all we Bale and I both attended a bachelor party that we were in the in the wedding party for in Nacho Libre. Quoting Nacho Libre was a big aspect of our Vegas weekend.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:39

The whole trip.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:40

The whole trip we were basically quoting Nacho Libre.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:43

We made an Uber driver just completely hate life.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:46

Yeah, he was I think he I think he went to go find an actual job after that. Literally.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:50

And yeah, the two movies I were playing the whole weekend were anyone but you and Nacho Libre.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:57

Yeah, and so we were watching, and I I was just quoting so much of the dialogue, and like I'm like, I don't even remember I don't even know how I remember these lines. The song when he sings the song the song he sings in the locker room. Oh yeah, and then when uh he's like when he sees like I I ate some grass, I use my hands I ate some bugs, I use some hands to wipe my tears.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:30

I ate some bugs, I ate some grass, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:34

That movie's so goated. Oh my god. Steven, Steven.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:37

No, you know who you have to watch that one with King Tarot.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:40

Oh yeah, he loves that movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:41

No, he could do the whole thing. Yeah. Like dialogue for bar for bar, beat as soon as the teen teen is any little background, dude. It's so good. It's so good. Yeah, Jack Black.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:51

Jack Black's great, dude. He's been in a lot of great big movies. He's like, if you look up, like, there's like a list of like actors, the amount of money that their you know, actors' movies have made, like box office. You know, there's actors like Samuel L. Jackson, Scarlett Johansson, Robert Denny Jr. But someone that's up there is Jack Black. People forget that that he's been in some big shit, man. He's a star. Yeah. Star. I love Jack Black. He's so good, he's so funny. School of Rock is one I that's one of my favorite movies of all time, too. And he's I've I don't know if you've seen School of Rock, but you should see School of Rock.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:18

I've seen it, yeah. He's great in that one too.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:21

But my leaver is like a that's like the the classic.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:25

But even then, like uh like we said, this movie would go like it was what, 2008? McConaughey would go on to win an Oscar, RDJ would go on and win an Oscar.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:33

Yeah, see where all these actors are. I mean, Ben Stiller bef prior to this had been he was a a popular leading comedy actor, and he was you know Meet the Parents, Zoolander. So he was like a leading star for comp for comedic films, and then he directs he's a direct he directs.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:48

And he's in a lot of he's a executive producer for a lot of things, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:51

Yeah, well now he's like a he's like a prestige director. He's directed some really acclaimed TV. He I think he might have directed Zoolander too, which I don't which wasn't very good. But he he's a he directed movies, and then he uh he had his big franchise, the Night at the Museum movies. Oh, that's great. And yeah, now he's the his big thing right now is he's he's directed he's directed the show called Severance on Apple TV. It's a really good show. It's it's really it is a really good show, and it's won a bunch of awards, and he directs a bunch of it. He directed a TV show recently a couple years ago called Escape from Danamora that had Benicio del Toro in it. Which is really good. It's like a d thriller, you know, action series. Severance is like a sci-fi thriller show. Like so he's kind of pivoted from com he's pivoted from comedy a little bit, but he's just he's focusing more on directing. He's gonna be in the there's gonna be a new Meet the Parents movie coming out, I think.

unknown 1:47:39

What?

SPEAKER_02 1:47:40

This year or next year that he's gonna they're all he's back for.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:43

De Niro?

SPEAKER_02 1:47:44

De Niro's back. Oh, nice. I think Ariana Grande's gonna be in it. Shuts. She's like I think I think it's about But which Ariana? We'll find out. Hopefully not. I won't block. Hopefully not Glinda. I won't block. Hopefully not whatever Ariana has been in the game. Like light skin Ariana press tour.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:58

I need light skin Ariana back.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:00

Well, I'm hoping she's she'll be she's escaped from Cynthia Revo's grasp if we can probably be herself again. Thank. Not this, not that whatever hostage negotiation the hostage video press tour that they fit.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:12

Because even that one lady from I call it the Agent Doctor Strange, she got stupid skinny filming with them.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:18

Oh, Michelle Yao? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I always see like people like one of these days, the someone's gonna write the article about what happened on the set of those movies because these actors are everyone on this press store is on is like something's not right.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:31

We're gonna like what is it? 20 years we're gonna get the surviving Yeah, surviving wicked. Surviving Wicked, that's gonna be the thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:38

We always get one Yeah, it's there's gonna be some story that comes out.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:42

That's so weird. That's so random that she's gonna be in it though.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:45

Yeah. But yeah, man, Tropic Thunder, like I said, hilariously nomin again, hilarious that Downey was nominated for his role. But honestly, like I said, I think it's one of the best comedic performances in the last 20, 30 years. Like, there's so much like beyond the voice, which I love doing the impression of, like, just the things he does with his face, like there's things he's doing physically in the movie that like you can't I can't on Mike, but like there's so much he's doing. But again, even like just stuff that Stiller's doing, black, like all the actors, like there's a lot of you know, the joke comedy, but there's a lot of physical comedy to this movie as well. Because it's an action comedy, essentially, and the satire on Hollywood and and filmmaking and actors and their their personalities and their egos, like I think is really smart and really holds up today with all the crap we see with people on social media and the stories you hear about movies behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:40

And do you think we'll ever get movies like this again?

SPEAKER_02 1:49:43

I I hope we get like a a smart satire. I mean, we do get satires. I mean, I I think this movie, like a movie like this with the the week, we won't risk attack. You can't do Tropic Thunder, yeah. Comedy. Well, actually, you know what? I'll I'll say this. We kind of talked about it earlier on. I went to Watched Scream 7 this week and we saw the trailer for Scary Movie 6. It's like we just talked about in the beginning. I think of Scary Movie 6 as a is a hit. And I I think it will be because I think we've not had any spoof or sat like clear satire spoof movies in a while like that are good and work. The stuff that does come out is like all like direct to freaking YouTube. And I think Scary Movie 6, they're gonna like there's a big joke of the big intro joke of Scream Scary Movie 6 is a woman gets stabbed by the ghost face parody, and a lady reacts, Oh, she he just stabbed her. And then the reaction is my pronouns are the they them. That's the the joke, and I think I like it. That might cause a ruckus, but Marlon Wayans has a trans daughter. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:48

So before we move on to anything else, this movie actually had a lot of diversity in it. Not maybe in the way they would want to, but it tackled gay and not that it made fun of, but at least in the sense that it was inclusive to everybody got the joke. Yeah. Bunch of races, not racism, but like races, like there was like a white guy, this guy. Yeah. You know, like Tropic Thunder did a really good job at everybody.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:14

It pokes fun at the stupidity of you know, Brandon T. Jackson's character is a closeted rapper homosexual. He's a rapper. He puts on the persona that he sleeps with a bunch of women and he's a he's a badass.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:26

We've seen that with uh what's his name, Barney Stenson.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:28

Yeah, so like he's he's he puts out this I guess sleep with a lot of women, and then a woman womanizer, gangster, rapper, mogul, and obviously, you know, not to get too deep into it, but people, you know, rappers in in particular, that's kind of what they put out a lot of times. And and you know, for a rapper to come out and say he's gay.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:52

And there hasn't been one that I can't think of one.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:55

So it tackled everything. But in but the movie doesn't make fun of him because it they're not making fun of him because he's gay. They're making fun of the joke is him trying to hide it, yes, and then the within the reveal that he's oh, the Lance he's talking about is Lance Bass. Lance Bass, who's an open openly gay musician from N Sync.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:13

So I'm just saying, I love how it tacked not tackled everything, but like everybody got the joke. Right. Special, handicaps, race, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:20

And even yeah, the the whole simple jack thing, the movie's making fun of Stiller for doing that. For doing that stupid, yes. It's stupid that he would do that. Yes. They would go that over the top and far with that performance.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:33

It was like why would Hollywood make that movie? Right. Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:37

And then the the common the conversation that him and Downey have with the whole you know, the forest gump, the I am Sam, it's like, yeah, you l actors do it. But you can't overdo it. But if you overdo it and you do it looks it looks it looks more like an attack, it could become offensive. Yes. Which I think, again, like if the simple jack thing was like a serious thing in the movie, I can understand why people might be like, that's offensive. Yes. But it's and maybe the the use of the word retard in the movie probably offended folks, and yeah, that's a that's a word you you know it's it's obviously a derogatory term to use against people that you know potentially that have mental disabilities or whatever the case may be or mental handicaps.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:11

Do you remember like at school that being a big thing that we couldn't say that word?

SPEAKER_02 1:53:15

Yeah, I mean we said it, you said it all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:16

It was like The Black Eyed Peace had that one song. They had to change the song from let's get retarded in here to let's get let's get it started.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:22

Yeah, and I love the I I want the original recording, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:27

But what'd you say? I'm authentic. Yeah, I'm authentic.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:31

I'm authentic.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:31

You ever want to go into your nicky?

SPEAKER_02 1:53:34

Oh yeah, no, I gotta I got there's two lanes. I gotta, you know, the Nick Nolte and the the RDJ impression here. I got you. I got you. It's hard, bro. I gotta I gotta turn one part of my throat on and off. Hey, yo. Pause. Hey, I'm the true throat goat.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:50

This is what happens when we don't do a serious movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:53

Yeah. You know what? I mean, I had to get you on here for something. Former. You've done you've done four very really serious movies on this show. Dude. Very emotional, very a lot of drama, a lot of heartbreak, loss.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:05

You picked like the You picked me to do those.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:09

Yeah, I picked my most non-serious pal. But hey, let's do something silly. Let's just get s we gotta get silly on here sometimes. And I need an excuse to do these impressions because you know, I can't just I can't just pop them out at a party. I mean I can, but people won't not everybody gets a joke.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:25

I mean, if you just say you autism, they don't care.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:28

Well, maybe that's competender too.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:31

Oh let's start writing it. Come on. Yeah. Who who who wrote the movie?

SPEAKER_02 1:54:35

I know it was Ben Stiller and So Ben Stiller and a guy named Justin Thoreau, who's an actor.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:39

See, thank God I have you as a friend who like knows this movie shit. Cause I was like, I read it, but I read it quickly, so I read Justin Trudeau. So I was like, he was a prime minister of Canada?

SPEAKER_02 1:54:53

I was like, he fucking he gets silly on the side when he's not leading a game.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:57

Well, I mean he did do blackface, that's why I was like, it's some broad.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:00

Oh buddy. Yeah, no, that's an actor. Uh he's a actor writer, Justin Thoreau. Okay. I don't know if you've seen.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:05

Was this Ben Stiller's Dictorial debut?

SPEAKER_02 1:55:08

No, he had done he had directed, what did he direct first? Let's see here. I think this this might be a second or third movie that he directed.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:16

I was like, this is his first fucking home run.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:19

Yeah, he was he was and let's find it right here. Because I think I did he he might have directed heavyweights. Maybe not though.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:28

Heavyweights is a prequel to uh the guy that he plays in Dodgeball, right? It's kind of like an Oh that's like the joke. The joke, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:55:37

Yeah, so he he directed a movie called Reality Bites, that was 1994, The Cable Guy, that's him and Jim Carrey. Yeah. And then he directs the first Zoolander, so this is his fourth movie, really. So Tropic Thunder's his fourth movie. Got it. And then he just only directed two more actual movies than he did a documentary. So after this, he does The Secret Life of Walter Mitty. I actually like that movie. And then he does Zoolander 2, and then now lately he's been doing uh TV, he's pivoted to TV with Escape from Denimore and Severance.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:08

Series will get you, man. Those series on the streaming platforms, they become successful.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:13

Yeah, I think Severance is one that has like a really long production pro like it takes a long time to make it. It's a very technically difficult show to make because of the just you have to watch if you watch it, you'll see why. But it's it's really it's a really cool show, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:25

Well, this was like Apple had the that whole like little they knocked it out the park with their shows, Ted Lasso.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:31

My favorite one that they've done was Blackbird. Blackbird's good.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:36

Yeah, Apple makes good stuff, man. I'm watching watching Shrinking right now on on that. Oh, I'd heard's good. It's the same people who did Ted Lasso, so it's basically it's like it's like the same type of humor as Ted Lasso.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:46

I'm not looking forward to the new Ted Lasso season.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:48

We'll see. It's because you're you're upset because it's gonna be a woman's team.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:52

I don't give a fuck. I think it's I just don't like that Jamie's not in it.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:54

You don't like women on the on the field.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:56

I do.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:57

Just kidding. Yeah, no, yeah. I mean, I get it. I mean, but I'll tell you not about the it's not about the men's team anymore. It's the men. But yeah, it's cool. I'm sure he'll come back if the show continues, though he'll come back in a small role, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:08

But uh I just like Jamie's character. Jamie has one of the best arcs ever.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:11

Yeah, I know he does. I I like Love Ted Oswal, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:14

I put him up there with uh Zuko.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:16

Jamie Tarr and Zuko. What a what a what a roster. What a roster.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:23

Come on. Redemption arcs? It's like everybody loves a comeback story.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:27

Kim Kardashian.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:30

I can't make Sally positive.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:32

But yeah, man. That's that's our top that's our con our combo on Tropic Thunder. Boom. I think a movie you and I both enjoy quite a bit. Love it. I think it's a movie that I feel like it's got it's gotten better with age as well, and people should should I think they should look back to it and they should I think everybody should go back and watch it. Give it another shot. If you weren't sure about it in the beginning, watch it one more time. It's funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:52

You know which one I'm ashamed that I haven't seen, but I need to watch it now. Pineapple Express, which I feel is like in line with this in terms of comedies.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:00

That's kind of where comedy pivots, I'd say, because that I think that's 2009, Pineapple Express, and Tropic Thunder's kind of it's the yeah, because really comedy kind of becomes Judd Apaton movies, you know, knocked up, 40 year old version. And that kind of the Seth Rogan kind of troupe of comedies with Pineapple Express and you know stuff like that. Yeah, bad. Like that all kind of becomes where Cobb comedy goes for a bit, like these hangout comedies. Not coming of age, but more like there was there was this this you saw the same like eight comedic actors and stuff for a while, right? Jay Franco. Yeah, the Frank, James Franco, Seth Rogan, Danny McBride, Jay Bearishhow, Jonah Hill, Michael Sarah, that kind of stuff, which a lot of those in the beginning were good. Yeah. And that kind of faded, and now there's you know, comedy there really isn't a lot of good studio comedy in theaters. It's all put straight to Netflix, and even that stuff usually isn't very good. A lot of it's kind of pivoted to TV, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:56

But I hate to say it, but like comedy now is just Ryan Reynolds being himself.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:00

Yeah, I mean at this it at this day, it's like to make a comedy movie, you have to like it has to be an action comedy, a horror comedy, a superhero comedy. Like it has to be an expensive comedy movie. Like, no, you can't just make I mean Tropic Thunder isn't it's an it's it was an expensive movie because it's a high concept that they're making a war movie. So it makes sense for that, but like that's like in the idea, but like a lot of times you make these comedy movies and it has to end with some sort of explosion or shootout, or like there has to be something added to it. It can't just be a straight comedy anymore. It can't be a 40-year-old version or a knocked up where it's just actors hanging out, improvising, being funny. Like it there has to be something to it.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:38

Somebody has to be kidnapped, it has to be You know which one I think was like the last kind of movie that really took let's go for it was like this is the end.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:47

Yeah, and that's kind of like the tail end of that crew, because then after that they kind of all start doing their own thing. Danny McBride now kind of his has his group with the kind of eastbound and down, vice principal, he you know, he does his own thing. Seth Rogan's basically a a filmmaker in his own right now. Now he basically directs and writes a lot of the stuff that he makes, his comedy movies, and he's kind of pivoted to TV. He's on Apple now with a show called The Studio, which is really good. And yeah, like you know, James Franco went the James Franco route.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:17

Uh how the fuck do you have all this knowledge about like just everything about movies?

SPEAKER_02 2:00:21

I have I'm sick. Why do you think I have this podcast? Because there's a bunch of information in my head about movies and actors and TV. Alright, then I have no outlet.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:30

You said it, I'm the next Nick Fuentes on.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:33

Let's hope not. But yeah, man, as we start wrapping up here, I guess we'll we'll uh start ending the show. But thanks for coming back on. I gotta keep my yeah, I'm the undertaker. You're gonna float, you're you're like you're a floater. You're just every few weeks, gotta every few weeks. Gotta bring it back on just to just to keep you, you know, make sure you're still you're still in fighting shape with the pod, bro. Can't get rusty on me.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:53

Um just I gotta add those 13 cents. Yeah, you just hey man.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:57

I gotta bring in that money that you gotta bring in the money, man. I need I need money. I need my I need this to work, please.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:03

You know what's funny? I was like, someone's gonna beat me for the most the most on. Yeah. Eventually someone's gonna beat me, and then I was like, I'll always be the first. I was like, Priscilla's catching up. If you're the first, you last. I was like, Priscilla. I was like, Priscilla's catching up, and she lives in-house.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:20

Yeah, but then I remember that you can't get her on the podcast. I can't get my own she can't get my own wife on the show. I gotta go through it.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:27

But I tell you what, the episode that she's on, great.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:29

Yeah, I've enjoyed it. I've enjoyed doing it with her. And everyone that's been on the show, I've been. Everyone's been killing Penny, bro. Penny's still the show. She's gonna be she's she's gonna take over the show, man. This is her this is her inheritance, her legacy. This is it before we get out of here. Anything you've been consuming lately, whether it be movies, TVs, music.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:45

I think this is the first time you've asked me that.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:46

Have I not asked you before? I don't think so. Probably well. I I haven't really been asked doing a good job of asking people every episode, so trying to keep it going.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:53

But anything you've yeah, just playing catch up on the movies you tell me to, you know, just like the F1s, the Snowfall. I try to get into snowfall, but I just I I watch it when I'm about to go to sleep, so you know me and I I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it. But yeah, snowfall, that, and then just you know, whatever short form of entertainment I could find.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:15

Yeah, whatever trigger whatever tickles your brain for gives you a distraction from all the loveliness happening in the world right now. Yes, sir. I get that. I get that. Fun times for sure. Well, I'm glad we were able to talk about a silly movie for once. Thank you. We didn't have to get into it.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:28

No snow, no dogs getting killed.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:31

People are happy. People are happy, idiots, but they're happy. Love it. Well, thanks for coming back on. Thank you very much. I'm sure you'll be back in no time. We'll have we have plenty of movies to talk about. Yes, sir. Think long and hard. I told you, think long and hard about what movie you want you can pick the next movie you want me to do.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:47

So I don't even know.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:48

So think about what you want me to do next, and we'll we'll do that. I told Priscilla the same thing. She can pick the next movie.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:53

Well, I don't know, Magic Mike.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:54

Magic. Hey. I'm game. I love that movie.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:58

Did you say I'm game or I'm whatever you want me to say.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:02

Oh I'm down, baby. I love Magic Mike.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:05

No, we could tell. Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:07

All right, guys. Thank you for listening. Bale, thanks for joining me again. Thank you, man. All right, everybody.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:12

Hey, anon this monkey could do your job. Hey.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:16

Just want to take another look at you. All right. Bale, well, you mumma mumma mumma make me happy. Peace out, everybody.