Cloverfield (and a THEME SONG?!)

Did You See This is BACK and we've got THEME MUSIC! Rudy is joined by Pancho this week to discuss the 2008 found-footage science fiction film, Cloverfield! They talk about the found footage genre, horror movies, and the viral marketing campaign that added to this movie's hype and it's ultimate legacy. Before we dive into that though.. Rudy is joined by Priscilla to get her live reaction to the new theme music Rudy created for the show before you hear it! Enjoy the episode.. and enjoy the music!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hello, everybody.

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Hello, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 0:02

It's me, Rudy, and Priscilla.

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Hello.

SPEAKER_02 0:04

I'm doing a quick little intro here because I'm going to be doing a little surprise for Priscilla here and for everybody else. So uh Priscilla.

SPEAKER_00 0:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

Hi.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

Hello.

SPEAKER_02 0:15

Welcome to the intro.

SPEAKER_00 0:16

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 0:16

As I said, I'm doing a little surprise here. You're gonna be the first you're gonna be the first one on camera officially.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

Who was the first one?

SPEAKER_02 0:24

Well Penelope heard heard what I'm Penelope already heard what I'm about to show you. Or yeah, show you. She doesn't care that much. She cares. I told you like a week or two ago that I was working on an intro, an official intro to the show. Okay. Um, but I didn't tell you. I didn't give you really any information, right?

SPEAKER_00 0:41

No, I was kept in the dark.

SPEAKER_02 0:43

Yes. So is everybody else. I've a little over 20 episodes now. I have not had an official intro or outro at all for the show. It's just if I remember to introduce the podcast or if I remember to close the show out. Yeah. Which I often forget half of the time to close out properly. In order to uh make this podcast a little more official and a little more produced, I've um been working on a little little side little project in secret the last seven days.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Now it's ready to reveal. It's gonna be Okay. It's going to be uh on this episode drop-in Tuesday with uh Poncho talking cloverfield. But I wanted to record your uh genuine reaction to it when you hear it. Oh god, okay uh so you're gonna you're gonna be the first person to hear this. Okay. Um but before I do that, I want you to guess. What do you think? If you had to guess what what an intro, an outro would be for the show, what do you think I would do?

SPEAKER_00 1:38

Something with creed in it, like creed like you think it's gonna be creed.

SPEAKER_02 1:43

Maybe you think it's like divorced dad rock? Probably. That's a good guess. Honestly a pretty good idea.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

Is it not? I don't know, something nerdy.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

Uh maybe. I'm just one I'm just wondering what you would what you think I would do of all.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

Um definitely something with creed or um something nerdy-ish. Okay. Not sure.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Yeah, I mean, well, we're guess we're gonna find out, right?

SPEAKER_00 2:05

Okay. I'm nervous.

SPEAKER_02 2:06

Okay, so you think it's you think it's something either nerdy or some sort of like creed, nickelback. That's related.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Or I don't know, so you have a variety, you have a range. Or it could be, I have no idea. Okay. I really don't know. Alrighty.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

Well you're gonna hear it? Okay. I'll reveal this. It is a song. Okay, it's an intro and outro song. What you're gonna hear is the full song. Okay. It's not split up into the intro or outro. It's just I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to your s. So feel free to react live as as you're listening to it. Okay. Um and you know, and if you don't like it, then uh keep that to yourself, please, because I can't take it.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

I'm not I won't do that to you.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

So uh you have I think my ear pods are right there. Okay. Have you put them in? Put both in, please.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Both of them. Carrot, I'm nervous. I don't like surprises. But I'm excited for you. I'm excited to hear what you've been ignoring your family for for the last week.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

Yeah, I've been locked in my room for a week.

SPEAKER_00 3:00

Okay, they're in my ear holes.

SPEAKER_02 3:02

Alright, so you probably aren't gonna be able to hear me very well.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

True.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

But you'll be able to hear what I'm about to play for you.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:09

And just if you can, just react into the mic on what on how you feel about it. Okay. All right, here we go. I'm about to play the intro and outro music, aka the theme song for Did You See This? Priscilla's the first one hearing this. Here we go.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

Babe.

SPEAKER_02 3:32

She's laughing.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

She seems she seems to be enjoying the song.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

I'm so dead.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

I think we did okay. We'll find out.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

You know you sound like what? You sound like that the little glitter troll.

SPEAKER_03 4:01

From trolls.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

I'm like crying. I'm crying.

SPEAKER_04 4:12

Okay. That's it.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

Wait, I need you to play it again because I wasn't even paying attention to the words because it's so funny. Alright. I'll play it one more time, man. Okay, hold on. Oh my god. Who are you even?

SPEAKER_02 4:29

I don't know. Surprising.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

But it's pretty good. Yes. Is it what you expect? It's definitely not what I it's not what you expected? No, not at all. I'm very impressed. So good. So good. 10 out of 10. I'm literally crying.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Is it kind of a buff?

SPEAKER_00 4:44

It is a bop. Oh my god. Can I take these out now?

SPEAKER_02 4:47

You can take the AirPods out now. You're done. Oh my god. Alright. So done. So you've lit you've heard the official theme song too. Did you see this?

SPEAKER_00 4:54

Honestly, what a hit. You didn't collaborate with T Pain or something?

SPEAKER_02 4:59

I did not collaborate with T Pain. I could, I did not have his number.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

I have so many questions for you.

SPEAKER_02 5:03

Alright, let's go ahead. Let's hear it. That's what we're here for.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

My first one is um did you come up with the lyrics on your own?

SPEAKER_02 5:10

I wrote the lyrics. The lyrics are 100% written by me.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

Okay, and when did you do the auto tune?

SPEAKER_02 5:17

I've been doing the I've been doing it in the in the house, in this room. Every time I've disappeared from the live from downstairs, I've come up here to work on it.

SPEAKER_00 5:25

It feels it sounds like you were probably in a studio with like Bruno Mars. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:30

And um I wor I found someone online to actually like to pr he who produced I didn't make the beat. I'm not I'm not that talented.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:40

Um the lyrics and the singing is obviously me. Obviously, it's heavily modified with auto-tunes because I don't actually You sound like the glitter troll. I'm not I am not a uh despite my personal belief, I'm not a great singer. Yeah, but uh yeah, so I f I I hired somebody to make the beat. Okay. It put me back several thousand dollars, so you'll be seeing the bill for that. And no, I won't. But I did write the lyrics, and I spent all last week figuring out how to sing the song to the beat. Just yeah, we'll do we'll do we'll do some fun background here. So I wrote the lyrics on Sunday.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

All of it?

SPEAKER_02 6:22

I wrote the first pass-through of all of the song last Sunday.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

When you wrote it, did you have like how you were gonna sing it in mind?

SPEAKER_02 6:30

I I had yes, I had a I had a way I was going to deliver it, but I didn't have the beat yet. Okay, and so I was like, this is how I want it to sound. It sounded a certain way in my head. I found somebody to make the beat. I gave them an idea of what I wanted and what I what I was looking for. The guy got it, and he gave me the beat, and the beat initially, I when I first got the beat, I was like, Oh, I don't like it. Sound like I don't know if the way I sung the song in my head is gonna sound the same with the beat. Yeah. Now, one, I've never written a song before, I've never written lyrics before, I've never made a song before.

SPEAKER_00 7:01

I've never discovering all these new talents you have.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

I've never sang or raped like to any sort of beat. I don't I wasn't even sure how to do it. I was doing a lot of uh online research last week, which I'm sure you've noticed. Watching a lot of tutorial videos on how to just sing or rap to a beat, uh, how to do the auto-tune. Yeah, so it was it was a very it was a big learning experience for me. Um, and in my when I wrote the lyrics initially, I was like, okay, I got this. I know how to deliver it. I was like singing it to myself like all last week. It with I surprised you never you didn't hear me at all. I was like humming.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

I'm surprised I didn't hear any of it at all.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

Yeah, it was like in my head for a week. Like, and the guy gave me the beat. I had to recreate the melody of the song because the way I I had sung it in my head was not gonna match the beat that he gave me. And but I like I I grew when he when I first got the beat, I was kind of like, oh, I don't know if this is what I want. But then I kind of grew to love it, and then I had him put a little bit of like pizzazz on it, because like when before, like there's that's the right word for this. There's like some like there's like some vocals that are in there that weren't there that I had him add. There's some background vocals that I did myself to like add to it, which you probably heard. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 8:06

When I was listening to that, it reminded me of that guy that we both like on TikTok where he puts like the heads of him singing. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Um yeah, so that's kind of so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

It's really good. I'm very impressed. We're discovering all these new talents you have.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

I spent like half the day working from home, like up in here trying to deliver the lyrics, the vocals. Yeah. Because I had to give the guy the vocals, and he he mixed my vocals with the beat like himself to make it sound a little more professional.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

So I was like up here listening to the beat for like several hours, like singing to the beat, trying to deliver it. Uh, the first version that I delivered, I gave it to him. He he mixed it and mastered it and sent it back. The auto-tune wasn't as where I wanted it to be, how I wanted it in my head. I wanted me to be very auto-tuned because uh A, I I don't have a good voice. So I wanted it to to uh But it's hilarious. It's that and that's the thing. I wasn't like I wanted to make it a funny song, but I wanted it to sound like as legit as possible, like for a regular person's budget. Like I wasn't gonna be in the the booth with like Benny Blanco, like produce like produce.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

I feel like you accomplished it exactly how you so that was like my thing.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

Like I thought it'd be funny to like write silly lyrics for my podcast, but actually have it like be a pretty good production to like where it sounds like oh it's like an actual song.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

It is an actual song. That was Can I get this on Spotify?

SPEAKER_02 9:27

That was the goal. Uh I I was so I I got the finished version today. The version he gave me yesterday. Again, I I rapped more on it was more of a rap that I was delivering, like a rap flow on some like like the second half of the song, the outro part was more of a rap. And I didn't really like how it's I didn't like how it's how I sounded, so then I I redid it like more singing like with the melody.

SPEAKER_00 9:48

No, it's good. I think you accomplished everything that you wanted to. Um I that was not what I expected it to be. I was expecting definitely more creed-ish, but this is it totally is you.

SPEAKER_03 10:01

Alright. Well, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

That's how I thought you it it's you, it's funny. I could I'm just like here you're just a silly little guy. Yeah. But um, it's very good. I'm very impressed by how this turned out, and I'm super proud of you.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

Well, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Yeah, you wanna say hi? Hi.

SPEAKER_02 10:21

Hi, Penny.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

Hi.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

You heard you heard my song too, huh?

SPEAKER_00 10:24

Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Did you like it?

SPEAKER_00 10:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

You like daddy singing? I know, huh? It was silly, huh?

SPEAKER_00 10:32

Yeah, hey well.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

Well, thank you for allowing me to be the first one you share this to. It's really good. I'm very proud of it.

SPEAKER_02 10:41

I'm happy you enjoyed it. It would have been it would have been a totally different uh talk conversation if you thought it was bad.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

No, and even if it was bad, I wouldn't tell you it was.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

Well, that's that doesn't that doesn't help us now. You could be lying, but no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

But it's very, it's I laughed because hearing you already, it was just very, it's genuinely funny, but it's very good. It wasn't what you were okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

It wasn't what you were expecting, but once you heard it, you were like, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 11:05

Yes, it's totally, it's you summed up. It's a I love it. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I'm gonna be I'm impressed.

SPEAKER_02 11:13

I'm going to be making more songs now. I think I'm a musician now.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

It literally was in tears because it was so funny. I was like, this fucking guy.

SPEAKER_02 11:21

Thank you for hopping on to uh react to it. We recorded a little video, so I'll probably be posting that on the socials. It'll be out probably that'll already be on my the Instagram page by the time this episode's out on TikTok.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

It looked crazy.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

It was a last minute, it was a last minute thing. You don't have you didn't have time to get the glam team out here. But um sorry. It looked like for everybody listening. The uh you're about to hear the official theme song too. Did you see this? Please let me know what you guys think.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

I hope you please let him know what you guys think. It's so great. I wanna I wanna know.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

I spent I spent hours, I spent days and thousands of dollars in producing this song, so I hope you guys enjoy it.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

Well, you abandoned your family for about a week.

SPEAKER_02 11:58

So but worth it, right?

SPEAKER_00 11:59

So worth it. I'm not mad at you anymore.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

All right, guys. Well, thank you. Well, please enjoy the episode and please enjoy the music. Hey folks. Welcome to Did You See This with Rudy Martinez. I'm your host, Rudy Martinez. We're back again this week. Today I'm joined by Poncho. Poncho, welcome to the pod, man.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Hey, thank you for having us. I know you've had uh my cousin Kevin on a couple times. Yeah. You guys are basically like family me now. Yeah. That's why I don't talk to you that much. I wish I would text you every day.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Yeah, we should uh we should talk more. Well, that's why you're here now, right?

SPEAKER_01 13:03

I think it's because my wife's jealous, though. I understand.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

I get handsy around you. Yeah. With you.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

She told me to, you know, she's gonna check me when I get home, make sure I got no hickeys, no nothing.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

Yeah, well, you can you know, rest assured, the t this table between us is pretty long, like we just talked about. So I can't I can't touch you while we're recording, but yeah, once the microphone's off, it's uh now I'm jealous of Belle because he's here all the time. Yeah, no, I Bell's here often. I think he's banned for a few weeks. I have to get new people on. Yeah, I gotta make new friends.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

Yeah, yeah, you gotta get out in the world, man.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

Yeah, yeah, I gotta meet new people. Um, so sorry, Bill. I appreciate you being on so much, though. But yeah, man, it's good to have you. You and I yeah, you've been supporting the show from pretty much since day one. Like you've listened to a few uh I know there's a couple episodes you haven't listened to because you haven't seen the movie, which is understandable, because we you know, why you might as well watch the movie before you get it all spoiled. Exactly. Um, but yeah, man, you've reached out and I appreciate you you know reaching out and giving feedback and supporting the show pretty often. So that's cool of you.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

As as a day one guy, I mean I get excited, especially when one of my friends is like putting out a project consistently and like I like listening to it. Like I I'll even like when I go to work, I'll just play it that day. As soon as it comes out, it's Tuesday. I'm at work, I'm about to do a task, I'll just put it on. Yeah, and then uh so like this uh past week, I did a trip up to like North LA, and I I remember I I had my coworker in the car with me, and we're doing we're doing like two hours, yeah. So I just put it on for him, and he's laughing the whole time at like all the banter and all the ideas, especially the Tropic Thunder one. Yeah, he loved that.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

That's what he put on, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

I put it off for him. He's like, Yeah, listen to them. So I'm I'm trying to get you your audience. I appreciate that, bro.

SPEAKER_02 14:43

Yeah, man, I appreciate that. It's nice it's nice you to it's nice of you to say that too, because you know, we all have friends that like pursue like you know hobbies or interests, whether it's like a podcast or they're like trying to be like a vlogger or like a musician, like a rapper, or like you know, it's like sometimes you want you want to support them and then like you put it on and you're like I don't know if I can as long as it's not MLM, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

No, but like I you know, I have like there's people you know, growing up in this town, like I know people that like rapped, and it's like I try to like I want to support my homies and I'll put on their music, and I'm just like, yeah, I don't like this is kind of hard, but like I I but like I respect you for doing what you're doing. So, you know, the fact that you've been listening, I hope you know, I hope you're enjoying it. Um I am I hope it's on my repertoire.

SPEAKER_01 15:25

Yeah, it's I have like five podcasts, and you're you're you're one of the top three, you know. Thanks, man.

SPEAKER_02 15:29

I appreciate it. So I mean, and you and anybody that listens to this, you know, every every week when it when it comes out, I appreciate it. And hopefully it's you're listening to it because you like it, not because you feel like you have to, but even if you listen to it because you feel like you have to, I appreciate the download because it goes it helps me anyways. But but yeah, that that's awesome, man. And yeah, like you have been you've reached out right like a few times already and been like enjoying the show.

SPEAKER_01 15:50

I have to beg, right? I have to get on my knees. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

And uh um and yeah, you obviously and you had told me a couple of times you wanted to come on, and and I'm glad we could finally make it happen.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Um what I really like is every time I'm listening to something, uh, especially if I've seen the movie, I'll hear you guys talking about it, and Belle doesn't know who these people are. And in my mind, I already know who they are, I know the history behind them. But sometimes I get like a little light on a movie maybe I haven't seen.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

Um like uh you were talking about RDJ, he did Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I didn't seen that movie. So my task that week was like, okay, I'm gonna watch this movie. And I watched it and I was I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought it would. So it's like it opens me up to all these movies that I haven't seen that maybe aren't that episode's movie, but like they're in the repertoire.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

Yeah, and that's that that's like a goal too for me, is like uh I love recommending things to people that I think that they probably haven't seen because there's a lot of underrated gems and also there's a lot of people that just don't watch movies as regular like on a regular basis. Like I w I'm a freak, like I watch a lot of stuff. I mean I don't my I don't take in as much as I used to, like since having a kid and if like you know, working more, but like you know, even but even so I think even with that, like even you know, being having a family and you know having more of a career now, like I still in it, I still take in a lot of content, probably more than most people do. And but like compared to like how I was, you know, five, ten years ago, like watching at the movie theaters every weekend, sometimes several times a week, watching every new show that came out on TV, like uh you know, glued glued to uh a screen of some sort, basically. Like you know, so I've I've seen a good amount of stuff, not everything, but a good amount. I like to recommend things that I think people wouldn't have seen, you know, movies that I know no one like didn't do well in theaters or shows that kind of never took off. And I try to like, you know, throw in little nuggets to the episode, like try to throw have a little kind of well, this actor he was in, like is like the kiss kiss kiss kiss bang bang, like you know, throw a little nugget in, like, hey man, like you got you like this movie, you like this guy in this movie. Well, he should see you know, when he when they were good in this movie or this show, and a couple times I've given recommendations like on the episode to the guests, and they've come back and said that they've watched it and they enjoyed it. Um, and that's that's cool, like putting people onto stuff, like that's kind of the joy of this. It's kind of you know, again, like all these things that I why have watched and like don't always have someone to talk to about. Like, now I have an excuse to put it out there for all the people that listen to the show.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

Like, hopefully you, you know, I I've definitely watched a lot of movies that you have. Like I like you said, man, it got a little difficult after having a kid. Yeah, you gotta get home, make sure they're doing their homework, at least give them an hour of peace where they're like, all right, let's go for a walk, let's go do something. So it's a little it's a little hard to schedule that in. I found it that you know, my golden hour is like I put them to bed, and then after that, it's on. I'm watching whatever I want on the TV. I don't have to worry about no language, I don't have to worry about anything, and I love that.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

Yeah, that's kind of been me lately. Uh we'll get her down, and sometimes my wife is awake, or some, you know, most of the time she's not because she's tired as hell, too. Um, and you know, so then I'll go downstairs and I'll just I'll watch, I'll get caught up on some shows, or I'll just put on a movie that I've been wanting to watch that you know probably can't have on in front of the bait, like the baby. You know, she's three now, so she's yeah aware of what's on the screen.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

Girls dance movies, they're two you can't have those on.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

No, dude. I mean, uh there's so many, so many lives have or are taken during those dance films, it's they're a little too violent for her. She did she did watch stip-up too with me though, so you know what? That one's safe. But that one's no, but nobody dies in that movie.

SPEAKER_01 19:21

Nobody dies, but that one's sick.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Yeah, that's a good one. But uh, someone does get jumped, but nobody dies, so she can handle that. Uh but yeah, man. I mean, and you know, you and I have chatted a bit, and I know and you've I mean, even before the I was doing the show, like you and I talked, and you know, you were uh have told me your of love for sp horror movies in particular, uh something that you and I share. I'm a I'm a huge horror guy, and you've seen a lot of horror. You've seen some of the the fucked up stuff that even I won't touch sometimes. Um that's cool, dude. That's cool. Like that's a good, like, you know, um so you and I can sometimes we'll talk about that, and uh we've talked about getting you on here to do a horror movie. Uh and I've wanted to for sure, like do more horror on here and and and uh like I'm glad you did my favorite one of all time, which was the thing.

SPEAKER_01 20:07

Like that is number one in my book. Like nothing tops it, it is like perfect from start to end. It's a perfect film. It's a perfect film, yeah. And and it's not even the creature, it's like just the premise of it. Because to me, horror is not a jump scare. Horror is more like it's personal, it's something that makes you unsettled.

SPEAKER_02 20:27

It's like it's atmosphere, it's tension, it's mood, it's it's jump scares are just are easy. It's an easy trick to do to get a reaction in an audience.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Like And it's not that I hate them either, it's just they're not uh if you have one, two jump scares in a movie, cool. You make me feel the adjunct.

SPEAKER_02 20:43

But earn them, like earn them. Like a movie like The Thing or like a movie that uh you know, I running joke that I talk about a lot was weapons, which like there's like like two or maybe two or three jump scares in it, but they're all earned and it's drawn out and it's like again, like you just said, that horror should be of it's a vibe. You should be scared because of not because uh there's a loud noise and a cat jumps on a piano and you like it's a fake out, like that should that's not to me that's not a successful uh horror movie. That's just not tricking you. That's you know the the music going real quiet and and and and you know that you can't see anything on the screen, and then something you know all of a sudden a flash comes up appears and it's a loud scream or a loud the music ratches up real quick, and that's like that's not that's just a trick. That's just hiding under the bed and scaring someone when they walk in their room.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

Like that's not that's you're not that's a scary like like that's how you get your cousins. Right. When they're when they're tired. That's how you yeah, exactly. It's full it's messing around. One of my favorite uh horror movies, and there's a really old one, was called The Day the Earth Still. Oh, the the original. It's black and white. Yeah, I mean it's black and white acting, so it's very like dry. Yeah. And my favorite part is like the whole time you're having some fear about an unknown creature, and you maybe you catch an elbow, or maybe you Catch, you know, some steps, may you catch a sound, and then you get to the end of the movie, you finally see this creature, and it's a paper mache like creature that you've been afraid the whole movie, but it's so ridiculous. But almost it's almost funny to me, as you know, because I've we grew up in a digital age, so we were kind of pampered and having like these super effects of like people doing great practical effects and then going into like a digital world where they can do anything they can imagine in like a whole different sense, and so we didn't have to like always watch these people in costumes in paper macheted costumes that would have been fearful in the 50s and 60s, but like nowadays it's it's almost comical, but it still like instilled that fear in me, that whole movie, and it wasn't comical to me until I actually saw the monster. I'm like, this is what I've been afraid of this whole movie. So I I love that type of stuff. And uh obviously I'm a big fan of monster movies. I anything monster verse, giant monsters, I love it.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

Yeah, I know I I I agree with you. I mean, and in that, you know, kind of uh you that's kind of good setup for what we're talking about today, is you know, the the whole hiding the hiding the the creature or villain of the film and all tease giving you teases of what's to come uh and monster movies because I'm having we're you're here today, we're here to talk uh a big one that basically combines both of those elements and uh in Cloverfield. It's the 2008 movie directed by Matt Reeves, uh produced by JJ Abrams, written by Drew Gardard, three like kind of geek icons at this point. Uh for you know, Matt Reeves, for anyone that doesn't know, directed the recent Planet of the Apes movies, uh Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, War for the Planet of the Apes. He did the recent Batman movie with Robert Pattinson. So he's kind of a you know, he's a big name right now. JJ Abrams had you know, he brought back Star Wars in in theaters with the uh Force Awakens. He brought back Star Trek. The only Star Trek I've I've ever been able to watch, honestly, are his Star Trek movies. Any of the big shows from the early early to mid-2000s, JJ Abrams was a producer, a creator on and director. So he's a he's a big he's a big he's a monumental guy like in geek culture. Drew Goddard, uh probably you guys know him less so, but he's uh he's he had a hand in creating the Daredevil Netflix show. He did a movie I love called The Cabin in the Woods. Oh, he directed that. It's a fucking great, great movie right there. Um yeah, so he he's someone who I I really love a lot too. I love his work. I think he's he's making a new Matrix movie now. So seriously? Yeah, I'll be careful.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

There's gonna be a fifth one.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

I don't they haven't said if it's a sequel with the same characters or if it's if it's a whole new take. But and he he like I think someone asked him about it recently, and he's like, I can't really comment on it, but okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

So I don't know if it's because I'm a big Matrix fan. Like another theme that I'm really into is like Cyberpunk. So yeah. Anything Matrix, I'm in love with. Uh the fourth one, I really enjoyed it. Even you know, the take that it went, it wasn't what I was expecting, but I I I definitely enjoyed it. There's like a lot of people that you know after the first one they hated the other ones. Like two flew over a lot of people's head because it got really deep and convoluted because it went into like some places where philosophically maybe people didn't understand it, yeah. But I loved it, and three just kind of tied it together, and four just to me revived the series. So like I didn't know they were thinking about doing a five. Like, that's definitely like so.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

I'll be curious to see if it's actually the Matrix 5 or just a news story like in the Matrix.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

I kind of hope it's like a news story.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

I I do too.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

I think it's I think Neo's been done, Trinity's been done. Yeah, I think we did that. We can do something else, maybe a prequel of how it all went down. That'd be cool.

SPEAKER_02 25:48

Yeah, I mean, there was a rumor for a while that they were gonna do like a young Morpheus movie. So we'll see. I'm excited to, yeah, I'm so yeah, Drew Garter, man. I'm like he's a good, he's a I I enjoy his work a lot, and uh he's the writer of the movie we're talking about today, Cloverfields. This is a found footage monster movie.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

Obviously, two of my favorite things. I mean, especially with us, because we got the experience of seeing the first found footage film ever, Blair Witch Project, which just blew the doors out of like people that thought horror was supposed to be a certain way, and it just like said, nah, here's how about this?

SPEAKER_02 26:22

Yeah, yeah. I mean, paranoma, or sorry, not paranormal, that's that's another one, another monumental.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Another one, Carl's bad, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

The found footage uh style of movies. I don't know, I I guess I guess it's a genre at this point, but the whole found footage movies. I mean, it goes back to before Blair Witch Project, but Blair Witch Project is the movie that put that style on the map. I think the one of the bigger ones was in the 80s, it was called Cannibal Holocaust. That was a big one. And then there are there are other examples, but like nothing was really even Cannibal Holocaust was like a cult film, like it had like you if you knew about it, you knew about it, but a lot of people didn't really know about it. But Blair Witch Project, which I think and a lot of people think that that's the first time they ever did it because that's it was released in theaters, had a very similar kind of viral marketing campaign to cle like like what Cloverfield had, and it was a I mean it was a box office sensation. People left Blair Witch Project thinking it was real, like they were they they're like, Did we just watch these kids die in real life? Like it's it scared a lot of people. And even in it, but even after Blair Witch Project, like there they did continue to make found footage movies after Blair Witch Project, but nothing really stood out until 2007. We got paranoid the first paranormal activity, which was a huge it's it was basically the second coming of Blair Witch.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

It was a huge capitalized on it the right way.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Oh well, yeah. I mean they they I mean Blair Witch got a sequel, but it was terrible, and it wasn't found footage, it was like a standard, it was it was a you know traditional movie, but it was terrible.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

They should have done it documentary style. Well, then this is what happened at the end of the year.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

And then yeah, well then they redid they did a new version of Blair Witch in ten years ago in 2016, 2016, uh that I haven't seen people. I think I have it's kind of a split. I haven't seen it. It's a divisive movie, I think. Some people like it, some people don't. Um, so we'll see. I mean, I but but I mean uh and I think they're making a new Blair Witch now too. I think Blumhouse has the right, so they're making a new one. So we'll see. I mean I think it's a cool property to continue doing, but found footage, so found footage. So this movie's 2008, so it's a year after paranormal activity. And the thing with found footage is it's generally it's pretty cheap to make. I mean you can you can hire a bunch of no-name actors because the whole thing with found footage is you want to make the audience feel like it's you're you're watching real events, you're you're watching something that actually happened.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

Exactly. It's hard to do with Brad Pitt on camera, like, oh man, you can't watch a movie like oh man, I can't believe Brad Pitt did this. No, you just just Brad Pitt on camera.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

This is the best way to like paparazzi footage or whatever. Yeah. Um and this so this the idea for this movie came from JJ Abrams, who uh he tells a story how he was overseas in uh Japan with his kid, and he would they were visiting all these toy shops and he kept seeing all these toys of like Gods of Godzilla and on several of the other like you know properties that they have over there of giant monsters, and he he wondered to himself, you know, why come we don't have our Godzilla? And he's like, We haven't he's like there's King Kong, but King Kong's you know I I think he was like you know with some sort of like creature, not that's not like a giant monkey.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Because King Kong is more of a metaphor of like oh the men are beasts and a giant man can be pacified by a beautiful woman, right?

SPEAKER_02 29:37

Like that that's that's more like King Kong it wasn't it wasn't really like a like a kaiju or or a giant monster of like ultimately it's just it's a giant ape, which exactly it's just a j a bigger version of an of animals we already uh that already exist, whereas Godzilla is a totally it's a creature, it's a you know it's a rate, it's mutated by funny that we say that.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

The original concept for Godzilla was a mix between a whale and a gorilla. Yeah. That's where they got the name Godzilla. Whale, gorilla? Yeah. See, I didn't know that. Look at you. Yeah, but it just ends up looking like a reptile cat.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

Right.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

That's but I love it either way.

SPEAKER_02 30:16

So so he wanted to so JJ Abrams wanted to wanted our own Godzilla, started were developing the idea, brings the board, the P the team, Drew Goddard and Matt Reeves, and they decide to go the he's they the one of the concepts that the kid they got early on was let's all you know, all the Godzilla movies are tend to take place from the perspective of the military or scientists, and we're always seeing the monster, you know, you see the monster full like you know, full head to toe. You were able to see the monster, and he's like, I don't I you know, I wanna what if we put it in the perspective of the people that are fleeing the city and trying to just trying to survive the night? You know, they wouldn't they might not see the full creature, they might just catch glimpses of it and deal with the aftermath of a building collapsing in their in their area or getting stuck in the middle of of the big action sequence of the military versus the monster. You know, in in these movies, it's so cool to see jets and tanks and soldiers firing at these monsters, but what if you're the guy in the middle of it trying to get away from that?

SPEAKER_01 31:18

Like, what if you're stuck on the bridge and it's rush hour and everybody's evacuating and you're just there and you're like, I gotta get out of my car and now run.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

Yeah, so that and I think and then uh obviously at the the found footage is now it's becoming the the big trend uh in Hollywood, and again, it's relatively cheap to make and you can probably you can make a profit pretty easily on them.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

Not only that, you can cast people that don't know what the movie's about.

SPEAKER_02 31:41

Yeah, well that you can you can cast again, you can cast unknown actors you or you know a new talent that is you know although this movie I think because a big thing that they said was we're gonna we're gonna cast people you've never seen before. And I'm like me being the you know, this is 2008, so some of these actors, while they weren't they weren't global stars, and even now they still aren't, but maybe one guy I knew most of the the lead cast in this movie when I saw when I watched it in 2008. Um like uh one of the care one of the actresses, Lizzie Kaplan. She was in Mean Girls a few years before, like it's Janicean from Mean Girls. Really? Yeah, that's oh right, yeah. It was Janice. Um the main the Marlene. Yeah, Marlena, and then and then uh Jake. No wonder I loved her. Yeah, well I love Marlene. Uh Jason, the main character's older brother. I knew him, Mike Vogel from he was in a movie I loved as a kid called Grind, the skateboard movie. I remember he's the lead character in that. So I I I knew uh I recognized some of these people. The uh the girlfriend, his girlfriend, um Lily, I think her name was. No. So Lily, I knew her from I think a year prior, she's in the this or a year or two before she's in this really bad movie that I like. I it's so bad I like it, called The Covenant. Uh she's in that Covenant.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

I love The Covenant.

SPEAKER_02 32:59

And so like I had seen all these people, so like whereas a lot of times you watch, like when Blair Witch came out, nobody knew who any of those people were. People still don't know who they are. I think they yeah, they did one movie done or even like Paranel Mactivity, those they were nobody's like, and they still they never became actor, like big actors, whereas these act these are like you know, but it was this was a like a lot of the lot of times those found footage movies are they're made for really cheap, and this movie was made within the studio system, so I think they had a little bit more money to cast like people that had done this a little longer, although they weren't big stars, and again, I know who they are because I watch a bunch of crap. The majority of people that probably saw this movie don't know who didn't know who any of these people were. If you watch it now, you might recognize a few faces, like recognized even some of the people like in the party scene. You see that you see what's his face juice from Sons of Anarchy at the party in the in the video.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

Yes, yes, I did see a I love that because okay, see when I originally saw it, I want to say probably like 2009, so about a year after I didn't see it in theaters back then, you know, we was Poe. So we didn't get to go to theaters all the time. I I mean I would go for like the big movies, but I I I you know I've seen it in 2009, it came out, and then maybe I last watched it, probably I want to say about 10 years ago. Wow. So Sons of Anarchy was already out by then, but I wasn't watching it, and so now I went back and I got to really watch it a couple times this week. I'm like, hey, he's in there. You're just recognizing actors left and right. I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

Yeah, you start noticing people. That's well, that's that's that's that's uh that's interesting. So you didn't see this movie in theater? I did. I remember so this movie had a huge, like like a really cool viral marketing campaign. Um that this no one knew this what this movie was. They were very secretive about it, they they filmed it all in secret, like no one, like it wasn't they tried really hard to keep it under wraps, and they wanted to surprise people with the I like and so the first really major announcement for this movie was they released a a teaser trailer in front of the first Transformers movies. So Transformers 1 comes out in July 2007. I'm in theaters watching Transformers, and I taught I've talked about on the show how like that was kind of like 2007's like the year where like my nerd movie fandom is like born. It's starting to it's starting to develop that like that year. Um that's like Transformers, that's Spider-Man 3. Like I so I'm starting to like okay, like I like like I love movies, but now I'm like I want to come to these, I want to come here every fucking weekend if I can. Uh and so I remember I'm in theaters watching Transformers, the first one, and they play the teaser for uh they don't there's no title, they just it it I don't even think it shows a studio, it just starts and it the the teaser like it I think the it just cuts, it's it's the found footage and it's it's the scenes from the party of the beginning of the movie. You're just seeing all the characters, it's everybody saying bye to Rob, the main character of the movie, and it it just seems like it's like another, I don't know, like a party movie, maybe like there's there's nothing there's nothing to indicate it's anything but not another 2000s movie, really right. And then like I mean even the fashion of the characters in the movie, you're like, oh man, this is definitely 2000 like seven. Um but it so it's showing all it's just showing the party, and then and then the earthquake happens, the lights go out, the earthquake happens, people are freaking out, they go on the roof, and you see the ex you hear the roar, you see the explosion from afar, and then all of the the meteorites, I guess, or whatever it is from the explosion start flying towards all the debris, shooting at you. And so the characters run into the run into the their the building, and then they run out run out onto the street, and it's like at this point it's just it's like the the teaser's edited like it's cut like it's just cutting in between out a lot of stuff in between. They're on the street, everybody's freaking out, you hear the line, like, Oh, I saw it, it's alive, it's huge, and then you it ends with the statue, the head of the Statue of Liberty flying towards all the characters, and then people screaming, and then it ends. And then I think it just said pro I think it was like Project Cloverfield, there's and it just ends. And I remember in the theater, everybody being like, What the fuck was that? Like, no one knew what the fuck that was. Like, no one had heard of everybody was like, I want to see that fucking movie. Everybody goes quiet for a second because the trailer was so good. Yeah, I don't it I yeah, I and then it I think it just showed like January 20, 2008, and yeah, it was like the reaction was like people were like, What the fuck was that?

SPEAKER_01 37:22

And I mean it worked because I mean right before Transformers as well, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

So like it's it's a packed theater because every transform everybody wants to go see Transformers, they knew it was gonna be a big movie. It's another it was a Paramount movie, Paramount made Cloverfield, and uh yeah, I uh people walked out like yeah, Transformers was sick. What the fuck was that Cloverfield fucking thing with Alley? What and and then it was just quiet, and then and then I think after the first trailer, they released like a a full trailer later on, and then there's all this like viral marketing online. You can go on like they were they had put out websites about like the backstory of like the ARG, yeah, and you can you you can go deep into that, and JJ Abrams is known for that because he so he's JJ Abrams is one of the he helped develop Lost, uh the TV show Lost, which was famous for this. They had all these you can go on online and look up all these like little Easter eggs and and shit about Lost, and uh he did you know the same with like alias and stuff like that, and so you can find about like the company that brought the main character Rob's gonna go work for, like the parent company that owns because he uh he's gonna go be the VP of Slusho is like which in Slusho is like a a staple staple of all JJ Abrams. Yeah, it's in Lost. He has it everywhere. It's in Lost, it's in Alias, it's in Heroes, like all the stuff he's produced or has like a hand in it, it shows up in in there one way or another. And it has a big presence here. And yeah, you can find out like all the then you can you like see some of like the what what caught like kind of what maybe caused the events of the movie. They don't in exactly they purposely don't reveal the origin of the creature in the movie, although you can find out like now that well now that it's been like you know what almost twenty years.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

18 years now, yeah. It's eighteen years, almost twenty years now that they uh they've gone back, and because it's three separate you got the writer, the director, the producer, sometimes now they're saying different things. Yeah. And and then you have the marketing that they created, the ARG that's t saying like a whole fourth different thing. So you have like four stories going on on the origin of like the whole story of like this comes out. But I definitely think slush show is the cause of it all.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Yeah, I mean, if you if you read about it, you read that there's like an ingredient. So slush show for those you know, for nobody, I'm sure no one listening knows this, but slush show is like the the in-universe version of like a slurpee. It's like a it's a slushy, a flavored slushy drink, and it's apparent it's like it's a big, big thing in the Cloverfield world, like uh in the in the universe of the movie. Exactly. And it's like and so the in the main character, Rob, has taken a job as a vice president. He's gonna he's the whole premise of the movie is the inciting incident when everything goes down is they're having a go his friends are throwing a going away party for him because he's leaving to Japan to start this job. And the ARG or the you know the viral marketing campaign that they ran for this movie, if you you can dive into it, and there's like the company that owns the company that owns Slusho, like there's an ingredient in the drink that was found at the bottom of the ocean, and there's you know, there's all these oil rigs off in you know, off off the coast of like Asia and Japan that are mining this ingredient that they found called I think it's like the deep sea nectar or something that's what it's called. Deep sea nectar. And it it has and like on the websites it would put like they would be very vague with what it is or what it does, that it there is kind of some genetic or health benefits with it. And it's you know, so so there's like all this, like you can find all these like these uh you know, quote unquote leaked documents of like employees who are like there's weird stuff happening with this corporation, people are going missing. Um it's slurm, bro.

SPEAKER_01 41:10

It's slurm from Futurama. Yeah, it's toad oil.

SPEAKER_02 41:13

Yeah, and uh and so it's it's heavily implied in this marketing campaign that um as they're drilling for it. That that them drilling for this stuff, that's what disturbed the creature and um or a creature, uh whether it's the one in the movie or just another one, but and then there's like you know, quick clips you can see of like there's an oil rig that gets destroyed, you see the little parasites that fall off the creature attacking like the attacking people. So there there was this whole extensive like online campaign you could people were a part of, and you could like you had to like break like break codes and like decipher like things to like get access to this stuff, and then people went deep on it. And that I think ultimately that was like it was a at this time too. Like it's like it's not the dawn of the internet, but it's when a lot of people are online at this time, like 2006, 7, 8 is when people are just starting to be online. A lot of people have computers at home, kids are online all the time. That's when they got cheaper to afford, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

You know, you didn't have to go to the library to go on Facebook or MySpace back then.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

Yeah, man. So yeah, so it's really cool. Like, and I you know, I I I was not super it a part of this, but I remember being like around it. I wasn't cro I wasn't like chronically online yet, but I was beginning to. So I remember seeing a little bit of this, but I would I didn't get super deep into it. But then I was reading a lot of it this week, and I remember reading about this even years ago, but like this week as I'm preparing for the episode, I was reading about it, and um just really cool. Like, it's cool that when they do stuff like that, like and uh obviously like in you know, Abrams and Reeves and got you know, Goddard have said, like, again, we kept the origin vague because even after the movie comes out, people thought, like, okay, so that they because at the end of the movie, there's this there's a scene where you see something falling into the ocean behind the main characters on the on they're on Coney Island on the Ferris wheel. So everybody thought, oh, that's like the that's the creature, how it arrived, and then that's like the one thing I think Abrams came out like no, the creature's not it's not an alien, it's from it's from Earth, but you know, I won't get mu into much more than that. And ultimately it sounds like the creature feeds on this ingredient that is put in the drinks, and that's what like has extended its life and helped it grow and grow to the to the size that it is, and the reveal also the Abram something Abram's also revealed is that the creature in this movie is a is a baby, it's an infant baby, just clumsy, it's the size, you know where it's going, yeah, it's upset, and once it's Cheerios and people are just, you know, mean. Yeah, it's it's a yeah, it's a kid that's he we it doesn't know what it's doing, and it comes up and it's just getting attacked and fired upon, and you know, it's like you said it's it reminds me of uh I don't know if you remember this, but that used to be an old movie that literally the theme was there was literally a giant baby walking around causing havoc.

SPEAKER_01 43:58

Oh, I don't know. I gotta think of the movie, but it I know if you look it up, there's an old movie that's a giant baby just causing havoc as a giant baby around the city. And I'm like, this is that means 9-11.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

Yeah, 9-11's another big part of this movie. Uh, and Abrams and Co. basically said they were trying to recreate the feeling of 9-11. And I mean, honestly, a lot of movies are like like uh you know, have done similar things after you know 9-11 changed, it changed movie making. I mean, you can look at War of the Worlds, uh, The Dark Knight, this movie all are kind of very there's nine, there's a lot of 9-11, you know, kind of symbolism and metaphor in the movie with terrorism and just a little more darkness, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:44

A little more like, okay, this could actually happen here. Because we're in our society, yeah, we're like the safest country where almost nothing ever happens here. So to have an experience like that is definitely gonna change, you know, the the the audience for all that type of media, and it's gonna change the directors and the producers. I know like it inspired Green Day, who in turn inspired Tiffany Meyer. Yeah, Stephanie Meyer. Stephanie Meyer, yeah. And she made you know Twilight, and then Twilight inspired Fifty Shades of Grey. So really we got Fifty Shades of Grey because you know it's a chain. It's it's a whole chain. And and I I think that just that event definitely made movies a little more upfront with like the cost of desperation and people panicking and and and having just chaos and how people would react in the moment when they're living through this. Yeah. And of course, because of the found footage theme of it, I think it did a great job capturing that type of thing.

SPEAKER_02 45:42

Yeah, that having that you know, it takes place in New York City. It's found footage, so it's definitely like bringing up memories of all the video footage from 9-11 where you're seeing buildings exploding and collapsing and people running and debris and just this cloud of dust coming towards you. It's all super 9-11 coded, and and they it's that's per it's purposeful why they did that. Uh, and also just trying to keep it on the ground level. We the audience knows as much as the characters in in the movie know that we're following. And and unless the characters don't hear it, we don't know. We we won't hear it unless you were heavily involved in the online marketing campaign. But even then, you you're it's a lot, you know, you get a little bit about kind of what led up to these events with this company, and and again, like there's no like scene where a scientist says, Oh, this is what the creature is, this is where it came from.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

Which and and the story has changed like three times because at the beginning it was like, Okay, yeah, no, this thing's from Earth and it's a baby, and then this that was what the ARG had put out, which was the marketing campaign that was online, and then later they come back, oh no, it's an alien, which ultimately I think what JJ Abram said is that it is an alien. Yeah, and it I don't I think the only time it ever gets like really explained was in the third movie, but that's beside the point.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

Yeah, I mean it's been it's it's changed for sure. I think well, because yeah, so there were there were two sequels which we'll talk about or quasi-sequels we'll talk about at the end here, but um but yeah, I mean, so what was your ex I guess what was your experience when you first what what would you what did what what did you think about the movie when you first watched it? Uh so you saw it a year after it came out just about and you I'm assuming you saw it at home. Exactly. So what what what were yours?

SPEAKER_01 47:23

I remember like um we used to buy him from uh the bootleg guy that used to come out and he'd sell bootleg CDs and movies out of his trunk. Yeah. So we I I would load up with like three movies for like ten bucks, and I remember I'm like Cloverfield, man. This is right up my alley because I'm I'm a big Godzilla fan. I always was, I mean, since I was like four, I've been watching Godzilla, so I'm a big monster creature fan, and so I'm just like Cloverfield, man. This looks good. I I remember putting it on. It's a great movie, great movie poster. And for someone that was like, you know, 10. Oh, wait, wait, what it came out, 2008? No, I was already like 16 by the time it came out. Yeah, I'm I was like totally psyched just to watch another giant muster movie, which by then I'd already seen the trailer at least once because Transformers had come out. Even if I couldn't go to the movies all the time, I at least watch Transformers in the theater. So I got to see the trailer. I'm like, oh man, I wanted to watch this. Super excited. Just the the the theme of it, of how it starts. I mean, starting off, you get to the scene that's uh kind of like not the theme with the rest of the movie because it's building up to the drama, and I was very confused. I'm like, hey, I thought this was supposed to be an action movie out right out of the first scene. Obviously, the pacing changes right away uh because of the style is oh, this is a home video camera and it cuts. So the first scene threw me off, but the rest of the movie, I mean, I was glued. Yeah, I was glued to the screen, s let alone the side of the uh the the the drama plot that is you know not the biggest driving force of it. Yeah but mostly it's the action of it. But like I was glued to the action, I was like, you know, I really liked it when it came out, I enjoyed it. I watched it a couple times, and then probably like I said, the last time before I watched it before this this week was like ten years ago, and then I kind of forgot about it. I was into video games and other media and watching other shows, so it was like I'd almost forgot about this movie, and then hearing you talk about it, I was just like, Oh, I really like that movie. Like, I should definitely watch it again, and then I just shoot you up like dude, Cloverfield, hell yeah. Yeah. So like I I definitely like the first time I watched it, I came away with like this was new, this was something that I hadn't ever watched, and at the same time giving me the nostalgia of something that I loved, which was the giant monster rampaging through the city, and which they tried to do since with the movie Rampage with uh uh The Rock. And that one didn't really nail it down. I I see what they were trying to do, but it wasn't yeah it wasn't this, which this was to in my mind I I thought it was great when I watched it, even if it's not the strongest drama or plot.

SPEAKER_02 50:14

No, it's not. Uh yeah, I saw this movie in theaters, like I already said, and I mean it's a it was an experience in theaters. Um did you get sick? No, and yeah, that was another big thing too, where I remember I remember after it came out. Um I don't get motion sickness. I'm a I'm a grown man. But I remember after like I probably after the first weekend or the first couple of days it had come out, all these theaters had these signs posted on like uh when you used to go used to have to go to the front of the theater outside and buy a ticket, uh believe it or not, everybody. You didn't just you couldn't just do it on the phone and never talk to a human. Like you had to go up and ask, tell them what you wanted to see.

SPEAKER_01 50:53

If it was like that back then, I would have seen so many movies for free.

SPEAKER_02 50:56

Yeah. Um and and and so, anyways, I remember there being a posting on outside at at the box office where people basically saying, you know, the way Cloverfield shot may cause you know dizziness, motion sickness, etc. etc. Uh because yeah, there was like reports of people like throwing up or passing out or whatever, needing a medical assistance because of the way the movie's filmed. It's very it's a found it's filmed as if someone's holding a handicam, so it's very shaky. And as the movie goes on and the action gets more intense and there's more explosions and and stuff like that, the camera moves around much more and the characters are running. So it yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's filmed very intensely during those scenes. Uh, and I agree, the drama stuff on this most recent rewatch, definitely the weaker, the weakest element of the movie. The movie opens with the characters Rob and his love interest Beth af you know, after spending a night together. And I get it. They're trying to give us a little bit about the characters and give us a reason as to why he'd want to chase, why he'd run, you know, risk his his and his friends' life lives uh traversing the city while it's under attack to save this girl.

SPEAKER_01 52:07

Um they gotta give him some connection. Like, why are they even right? Why is he even going on? Why bother? There's a monster in the city. Yeah. Dude, like, yeah. Why aren't you running away screaming your head off?

SPEAKER_02 52:17

You're gonna go save your booty call, like you know, but I they're trying to do it. It's the movie ultimately like the I was surprised even today. I I watched the movie, and before the credits hit, I think it's like 74 minutes. Like it's a very short movie. I think with credits, it's like 92 minutes, so it's it's really short, and then it's it's I don't even think it hits 80 minutes before the credits start rolling. So really short movie, not a lot of time to give us much about the characters. Um, just very bare born, very bare bones. That's my brother, that's my brother's girlfriend, this is my best friend, this is the girl I have across I love. Like, this is here's the crew here, you know. Here's the girl that doesn't really know anybody and doesn't want to be here, and but he likes her. Like, you know, whatever. This here's your six characters we're gonna follow. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

And my whole take, you know, was you as soon as it starts out, it starts off as a government tape. And I'm just like, why is the government taping kids? Why is the government taping these these 20-year-olds uh spending the night together and it's the morning after, but then you know, obviously, because after that it just goes into the cut of yeah, oh hey, he's about to go away.

SPEAKER_02 53:26

This is yeah, I love and I love the like the the on the when it starts, like uh this footage was recovered from the area formerly known as Central Park. Yeah, so like something obviously happened. Uh yeah, and and so you know, the first like 15-ish 20 minutes are just kind of the characters preparing for we get the whole Robin Beth, you know, post evening together scene, which is whatever, and then it's we we see that the movie the the characters are taping over that. So this is the prior tape when the characters are so funny.

SPEAKER_01 54:00

You have a home movie that you're taping and you're you want to enjoy watching that later with someone that you love and stuff like that, and your friends just don't even check and they're like, Okay, yeah, we're just gonna tape over.

SPEAKER_02 54:12

So throughout the movie, while we're seeing the events of the night, like the every now and then it'll cut it, it'll cut into the the prior tape with Rob and Beth like being together for the whole day, for the date that they had. Oh, yeah, guys, remember like he this is what like they love each other, they're they're you know, they're connected. So, like just if in case you guys forgot why they're still why are they still running through this fucking apocalypse to go save this girl? This is why, because they love each other, but um you know it's it's the party shenanigans, it's you know, very 2007, 2008 coded with the the the style and the music and the just it's in it's a New York apartment, so it's very much that vibe. Um so you know, on that on my rewatch this morning, I was kind of like, okay, this stuff, you know, it you want it to, you want you're waiting to get to the to get to the the good stuff, the action. You want the monster to come. So but they got they've gotta introduce it to the characters, get the whole dilemma, um, you know, with the rest.

SPEAKER_01 55:09

I feel like it was fleshed out enough. Yeah, he didn't need to go too too deep into the to to the drama. Yeah, but they they might have maybe it's surface level drama, it's surface level drama perfect. Rob I think I appreciate the intro only because of the little comedic tones that it has of like, hey, you're gonna record over this tape on this camera that you don't know how to operate, then you give it to your boyfriend to do it, and he's like, Oh damn, I don't want to do this. Yeah, so you find the dorky friend, like, hey, you ain't got nothing to do today. This is your job from now on. And of course, HUD being the best friend ever.

SPEAKER_02 55:43

Yeah, it is it's it sets you up that there's gonna be humor throughout HUD, the character who's holding the camera throughout for the entire duration of the rest of the film, is like the is the comedic relief of the movie. Uh he's such a great friend, isn't he? Yeah, no, he's he's down, he's down for his boy. I mean, that's what you need a writer.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

He's such a great friend because I love it. Because yeah, it just it's straight, it cuts the party. He's going around the party asking people if they have like a message who don't know pre-wedding message, and of course, he sees this crush, Marlene, who's like one of the best characters in the whole movie, but like obviously she doesn't want to be on film.

SPEAKER_02 56:20

She doesn't want to be in the movie.

SPEAKER_01 56:21

She doesn't she didn't even want to be in the movie.

SPEAKER_02 56:23

Can I not be in Cloverfield, please?

SPEAKER_01 56:25

I want to go do something else.

SPEAKER_02 56:27

Anything else. Uh yeah, so we're at the party and we're meeting all the all the guests, and uh by the way, how much of an MVP is Lily?

SPEAKER_01 56:38

She is like the mom of the group. Yeah, like as an older person, I'm like, dude, I love Lily so much.

SPEAKER_02 56:44

Yeah, Lily's Rob's brother's girlfriend, but it seems like they're a very close family unit. She's basically the one who threw the party for Rob because his brother's as a friend.

SPEAKER_01 56:54

I want that friend, you know. Right.

SPEAKER_02 56:55

It's like how many of your friends' girlfriends would throw their brother, their boyfriend's brother going a party? Usually it's like, fuck that, like either fuck that bitch or fucking I hate her. She was more motivated than his actual brother.

SPEAKER_01 57:06

She was just like, I gotta do this. And then his brother's like, fuck, I gotta tape all night. I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_02 57:11

Yeah, but it establishes that they're close uh and they've been friends for years, it's all of them, with the exception of uh Marlena Lizzie Kaplan's character, who is I think who is friends with Lily and has only met Rob in passing and doesn't know Hud, but Hud has a crush on her. So we get all that, we get all the testimonial. Beth arrives, Rob's love interest with a new guy with a date. So it seems like whatever romantic tension that was there between the two of them has kind of gone away.

SPEAKER_01 57:40

So I'm I'm guessing that it was probably like a few weeks later.

SPEAKER_02 57:44

Well, yeah, so the so the opening of the movie, the first that you know, the mourning scene between Rob and Beth takes place in December, and then the the the events of the movie take place the following May. So it's been five months. So it's been five months. So and then, you know, so it it's there's some awkward tension with Beth showing up with the guy with another guy, and then Rob and Beth begin talking. Hud kind of briefly c records them arguing. It sounds there's a lot of like, I didn't call you, you disappeared. So it seems like, you know, because Rob got this job in Japan, he's leaving, that maybe that's why they didn't he didn't pursue Beth further, who knows, whatever. And then uh Beth leaves upset, and uh Rob, I think he makes a comment like good to the Beth's date, like good luck tonight, like just being a dick, and then you know, all the friends get looped into the drama. Uh Rob and his brother Jason are talking, and they're trying, you know, Jason.

SPEAKER_01 58:37

Hud's like, Lily, you gotta know something.

SPEAKER_02 58:39

Yeah, Lily knows Lily Lily reveals to the to the friend group that they Rob and Beth slept together, and then Jason Which which she immediately says, but don't tell anybody, and then Hud being the best friend ever just goes around interviewing people.

SPEAKER_01 58:53

Tells the entire party, people that don't even know him.

SPEAKER_02 58:55

People don't even know Rob. And then Jason gives uh Rob like the worst big brother pep talk I've ever heard. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 59:02

He did not try at all. I mean, even he was like, let's leave alone, let's leave alone. You're a douchebag. That's your brother, go cheer him up. Yeah, you're a piece of shit. And he's just like, bro, she was always too good for you. Like, I don't even know why you were trying. I know you've loved her forever since you were like kids, but like you you're an a-hole, basically. You're not good for you, you're not good enough, or you shouldn't feel bad. Yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_02 59:26

Yeah, and then um so so yeah, we we get past all of this kind of drama party shenanigans, and then we get the It's right when they're given in the pet talk.

SPEAKER_01 59:36

That's when you first hear the boom, yeah, the rumble.

SPEAKER_02 59:39

And then all of the chaos begins where there's uh the the earthquake, the lights go out, people are panicking, they go up to the roof to see what's going on, and we see the explosion from afar. All of the flaming debris comes flying their way, all the party guests run back into the down the building and run onto the street. Everyone's freaking out, and there's up you know, there's hundreds of people running down the road who were near wherever the the incident took place, clear it seems, and we hear some of the audience, you know, I saw it, it's alive. Um I don't know if those work. They might not be playing.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:15

There is a sh point where uh right where they're running, or you hear somebody in the background go like, Oh my god. And apparently that's an Easter egg that the producer did because he's watching the tape, he's watching this scene unfold, and in as he's watching it, he says, Oh my god, and the sound guys loved it so much that they kept it in the movie because his reaction to that scene. So, like you have all these people that are actors actually acting on screen, and then you have the producer watching it over and like and like reacting to it in real life.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:48

Yeah, I read there was like I think him and somebody, a couple people involved in the making of the movie have like voice cameos, which is something JJ Abrams does a lot. Um, like his the whole bad robot part, like family.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:59

They it's his Quentin. It's his Quentin, like he does gotta put himself in the movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:04

They do, yeah, they do like a lot of Easter eggs like that. He does a lot of Easter eggs, he likes to do that. Which I do enjoy that for people to kind of discover. This movie has a lot of Easter eggs in it. Um yeah, so the chaos is happening. We get the we get the I guess you know, iconic scene of the the head of the Statue of Liberty flying towards them and crashing in the middle of the street, everybody's freaking out, and then we see we we catch a quick faint glimpse of the creature passing through a building, all the kind of the wave of dust and debris comes their way, they escape into a a bodega, and they some of the characters get separated. When they come back in to the street, they run into Marlena again, who's like walking in a daze, and she says that she saw it, that he was eating people.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:48

Eating people and everyone's like obviously like traumatized, she's having a tough time of life right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:54

And basically, from this moment on to the end of the movie, it's just it's just go. It's it's just doesn't it does not let up. So if anybody that's like these first 15 minutes are born, we're like once that party stuff is all done, the setup stuff is done, it does not stop. There's no there's very little downtime from this point on, and it pretty much just begins the character's fight for survival for the entire night.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:15

It was like that slow jog, that warm-up on just getting the drama through to just sprinting action.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:21

Yeah, and at this point everything everything that's been shown in this movie is what was in that first teaser. The first teaser only shows up until this point. You don't get any glimpse of the creature in the teaser. Even in the when they were they would release a full trailer like months later, and even the full trailer, while it gives it shows more footage of later in the movie, it does not reveal the creature. You get very fast glimpses of the creature in the trailer, but you don't ever see what it looks like. Like they purposely wanted to hide it, they did not want it, they did not want it to leak. I think like in the even leading up to the movie, I remember like people like fake concept art was leaking of what them they thought it looked like.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:00

There was like one drawing where it had like the face of a whale, but like the body of like a orangutan.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:06

Yeah, it was and everyone was like, This is not it. And I remember like when the first teaser came out, the way that people dissected it, like I remember one of the big rumors was that it was a Voltron movie. Yes, one of the big rumors people thought it was uh uh a new version of the thing to kind of circle back because they were recall because you could hear you hear the monsters roar, and people were like comparing the roar from the teaser to the roar of the thing and the original thing, like look, it sounds similar. And like people just they didn't know they were like they don't know what to think because because even because yeah, when the first teaser comes out, can come comes out, there's no title, there's no like there's nothing about it, and so everyone's everyone's just called the Cloverfield Project, and we don't know nothing about it. It's a secret movie, so yeah. I mean that was I remember being I remember that being on YouTube, like oh my god, what is it?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:49

And then just you know, and uh just yeah, the the way the the the the chokehold this movie had on people like trying to you know dissecting everything and it it was like the dawn of like the whole like it might have been like the first tidbits because nowadays you have like the the fandoms that they'll see a trailer and they'll immediately it's off to the races. They put it on YouTube where they stipulate, okay, this means this, this means that. So so it was it was definitely like one of the first few instances where it was online and you could kind of access a crowd of people that are interested in this.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:24

Yeah, because back then it's like there was YouTube was still kind of blowing up. You had a trailer, you had to like download the the the like the file to watch the trailer like on Quick Player or whatever. Like it was a different time and um back when iTunes was still around. Yeah, and it and it's hard now. It's it's very difficult, nearly impossible to to create a movie in secrecy because there's just so much there's so many people that are online that have access to things or people that leak things and there's so much reporting going on, and you there's so there's everybody has a video camera in their hand, so like how do you keep how do you keep it secret? It's crazy. Like the fact that even the the Don't tell Tom Holland, that's how you keep it secret. Yeah, like the fact that the follow-up movie, Ten Cloverfield Lane, was that was another secret film that was produced, like the fact that that was was even kept a secret, and I'll talk a little bit about that at the end. Like, was a that's ten that's eight years later. Like, that's crazy that that was even possible. But nowadays, like it's very unlikely you'd be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:24

Very unlikely, especially with all the backstage crew on the side people just you know, then sometimes even people on the street seeing the shooting live, then they take a picture. Like uh, I remember when uh Joker first came out, you had a you had a picture of Joaquin Phoenix in the Joker suit before the movie even came out.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:43

Yeah, I mean, even one of the crazy examples of how easy how how easy it is for this stuff to leak is Andrew Garfield coming back for Spider Man No Way Home. That was leaked online a year before because because a grub hub or DoorDash driver delivered uh food. To him and mistakenly thought he ordered alcohol, so had request had to see his ID before he delivered the food. And Andrew Garfield was like, I didn't order alcohol, and the guy was like, I have to see your ID, it's telling me I have to see it. So he like reluctantly shows him his ID, and then the guy was like, Oh shit, like that's Andrew Garfield. So then he went goes online and puts like on Reddit and is like, Guys, I just delivered uh food to Andrew Garfield in Atlanta, and everyone was like, Oh, well, they're filming Spider- The new Spider-Man movie in Atlanta, he's back in it. And like that's literally that's literally how like crazy and e crazy easy it is to like put this shit together now. So a movie like this.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:35

You have internet detectives. Literally, you got so many uh uh people out there that are really smart as long as they're in a chair. Yeah. And they'll just figure everything out from little tidbits and connecting webs. But yeah. It's really hard to do nowadays, but I definitely love that it's like they kept this creature so secret. The first glimpse you catch of it is like the shoulder. Yeah. And HUD freaking out, like, what the hell was that? Yeah. And he's just yelling, and he doesn't know what just happened, and the one person that saw it is like traumatized, so she can't speak about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:09

Yeah, and then before she can even say more, the the people there decide they're gonna get out of the city. So they begin their kind of their they begin their trek to the Brooklyn Bridge to escape. They're in Manhattan, so they need to they need to get off Man get out of Manhattan. And yeah, I mean, as you're going through, you're seeing kind of the aftermath of of the creature's destruction uh throughout the town, and we you know, there's police officers, you see like people in the back of ambulances being being treated, and they make it to the Brooklyn Bridge and are crossing the bridge, and then um Jason get Jason Mike uh Rob's brother gets separated from them and we then he's trying to call from the Beth. He gets a call from Beth, and then we do this is when we get basically the what the movie's gonna become from this point on, is Beth is injured, she's trapped in her apartment somewhere, and she calls Rob for help, and so Rob is all the characters kind of go with Rob to see what's going on. Jason gets separated, and then we hear the creature, and Hud looks up and we we see the tail watch out one of the limbs of the creature above the bridge, and it comes down and Jason's killed on top of Jason bummer. I was bummed I remember being bummed because I again that movie Grind, I was a big fan of that movie Grind, so I really like that acting like that actor is like I'm like, Oh, this is the dude from Grind.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:32

I'm like, oh fuck, he's dead already, like goddamn it. Like not even 25 minutes into the film.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:36

Done. I'm like, fuck dude. And so the the bridge collapses, and all you hear all like the cables snapping and the characters are run running off the bridge as it's falling down. It's really crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:48

The the funny tidbit is when I first watched it, when I was hearing these sounds, I thought they were roars or sounds that the creature was making. Now that I've rewatched it, I'm gonna like no, this is just the bridge falling apart, and the sounds that you're hearing is all the metal and and the wood kind of just like falling to pieces.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:08

Yeah. Um yeah, it's it's a it's a really crazy scene, and so the characters escape, and then obviously Lily and Rob are obviously distraught.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:18

Lily is freaking out because the love of her life just died.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:21

Because we don't really get a good Rob doesn't really break down about it until later in the movie when he calls talks to his mom. Because here he's just kind of like I think he's in shock, and also he has the whole Beth thing going on at the top of his head, and so he they uh It gets in kind of kind of like a survival mode of like I need to do this next.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:39

Right, and so I need to do that next, and that's you know, yeah, they run away from the bridge.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:44

They break into an electric electronic store because they're deciding what to do for the street, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:49

And then people start and then they're kind of like looking at Rob to like, hey, what do we do next? Your brother just died, you're not really reacting, and he's just like my battery's dying, I need to go get a battery from this. So he's 7-Eleven.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:02

They go and they he grabs a battery or a phone and is able to, I think, yeah. So now the the the mission now is get to Beth.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:09

That's kind of what it's also like the first shot that you get of like kind of looking at the creature because as he's going through there, uh you're seeing all these looters taking off with TVs, and he's looking for a battery. You get HUD watching the news. Recording the news, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:23

Watching the news, and on the news they have helicopter footage of the creature, uh, and then you get the reveal that the creature, like you see the creature, he's like it's like scratching its back on one of the buildings, and then there's ground footage of these parasites falling off of the off of the creature and attacking at soldiers and people on the on the street. So now it's like there's a giant monster.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:45

You hear that news reporter, she's like, There's things coming off of it, and then this creatures start falling down, soldiers are getting attacked, people are starting running to her, and you just see her realize, oh crap, I'm in the path of these.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:57

And then he goes outside and he could see that he sees like the creature like outside, like he's a like, so it's like I think it's time it's time. I love his lines like Rob, it's time to leave the electronics store. It's like the way he's the way he delivers it, it's like we need to leave the electronics store now. And now that it's the they the mission is kind of laid upon them where Rob's like, I'm gonna go get Beth. Exactly. And the character's like, We need to get we need to get out of the way.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:23

They want to get out of Rob's like, I want to go back for Beth. Yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna, yeah, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:28

So he tells them, like, you guys can go, I'll I'll go, and they all decide to stick with them. Again, the MVP lily's just like, nah, I'm not leaving you. Yeah, so they all decide they're gonna head it further into town where the creature seemingly is to rescue Beth. And um you know, they're they're running and and everybody else is running the opposite way. And then the opposite way they run into the military. Yeah, that scene I remember that this scene in particular in the theater was so like I remember I I was saw this movie with a friend. So they're they're walking down the street, and the creature comes out of nowhere, smacks, like slams its fist on the street, and then immediately missiles and gunfire characters. And I remember when that scene happened in theaters, my friend that was sitting next to me reacted, he was like, Oh shit! So loud, like it freaked him out because it's it's like it's quiet-ish, and then the monster, and like a split second after the reveal of the monster, the gunfire and the missiles, and like it in the theater, it was loud, it was so loud. And I fucking I remember like I remember when I got this movie on DVD, you know, six months later, I would rewatch that scene over and over, coming, oh, this is like you're saying the military fight the creatures is so sick, and it's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:43

You just it goes straight to shooting, and all of a sudden there's this marine on his knees shooting a rocket launcher after just like the movie being quiet, and then immediately creature and shooting.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:54

And you uh this is like this is the at this point, it's the closest we've seen the creature, but we still haven't gotten a full like view of it just yet. And yeah, HUD is freaking out uh like anyone would. And he's separated, everybody else is across the street, and then Rob is directing him to go, they're gonna make a run for the subway. And so the characters run across all the gunfire and missiles and head down into the subway. Um, but it's it's crazy, and you're seeing like the military unloading on this thing, and it's not really doesn't seem like it's really doing much, but but but irritating it. Like it's not it's not piercing its skin. It's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:30

Yeah, no, they're just kind of like trying to hurt it to to to go out of the populator area.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:35

Yeah, and uh it it's it's so cool. Yeah, there's there's tanks and missiles, yeah. It's so it's so awesome. I always I love that scene so much. It's just like like the fucking chaos it would be like if you're if you come up on a fucking war scene like that, it's it's so cool. And then that yeah, and then then they go underground into the subway station.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:51

Which surprised me that the subway station was an S-Packed. Yeah. Because nowadays they would be considered like bomb shelters and whatnot. So I'm like, you're looking at this movie and everybody's trying to get out of Manhattan, but the subways are literally like empty. There's nobody there.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:06

Uh and they now they're they're gonna try to get through the subway they're gonna try to they're gonna go through the subway station to get to Best House. They figure it'll be this will be the safer route because they won't be on the street where the creature is. And uh they start their trek through the subway, uh, it's dark, and then HUD finds a uh flashlight on the camera, turns it on, they have a little bit of light. And then How great were these cameras from the 2000s?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:31

Yeah, the battery just lasted lasted eight hours.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:34

Yeah, that's like one of like the But that's the thing with found footage though, like you have to you have to like discount realism because at the end of the day, there you would just stop recording.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:45

Like and the characters because even if he you stop recording and the camera's still on, it's still wasting battery. Yeah. So like just the fact that he keeps coming back. I mean, yeah, you can't count on that for for a full movie, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:57

Obviously, that takes over like a couple hours to Yeah, and it's like all these found footage movies, like they you know, they sell them as quote unquote, this is like if we found if if we if you just found a camera and picked it up and this is what you would see, it's like it would be like a minute of footage, maybe a couple minutes of footage, and then whatever whoever was recording would just get you know, run it, drop the camera and get the fuck out of there. Like nobody's recording that. And the characters comment on it throughout the movie, they're like, Hud, why are you still recording? And his reasoning is like, I you know, people people need to see this, like people are gonna want to know what happened, and like whatever. They're just trying to they're trying to justify it in the movie because most of the time in these found footage movies, like there's no justification, and even so, like, just because you comment on it doesn't make it matter, or like doesn't make it make sense, anyways, or make it any more realistic. It's still these not realistic.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:47

I always bring these questions up to Mana and she's like, it's it's a movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:51

I mean, nowadays it could make sense because especially with like kids' movies, yeah. But like nowadays, if someone they do this, like, yeah, someone has like a GoPro on, like, or like they have those those like uh those sunglasses that record, like there's more and you can like switch out the battery, yeah. There's more options like to get this footage realistically, like without someone holding a fucking camcorder all night, which just wouldn't happen. Like the stuff they go through, he would not he would have dropped that camera after the fucking Statue of Liberty fell.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:20

Like I would have been like And how long the tape lasts.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:23

Yeah, but but again, it's a it's a movie, it's a movie about a giant monster attack in New York City. You you're either long for the ride or you're not.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:30

And if you're gonna be one of the greatest cameras ever.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:32

Yeah, it's just it's you know, it's just it's a great, great piece of technology. So you know, good for that.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:37

Thinking of back then though, it they did have more options than what we have today. Like, like, sure, we have flashlights on our phone, but do they necessarily have night vision? No, which cameras back then did have like kind of night vision mode, even if you had like a little Sony that maybe it was back with the little tapes that you used to have to change out every few hours. But like technology has definitely changed in a way that made it more accessible, but back then we did have like those types of features. Yeah, just a great microphone on that little piece of camera. Jumping in night vision, they make it into where the flash I think I don't know if it's a flashlight die or does it no, so so they're still going, and while they're walking through the tunnel, they start hearing right noises, they start hearing it and then starting.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:18

They start hearing the parasites. HUD turns on the night vision and I don't know if you have an impression of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:23

I don't have I've heard your Nick Nolte and I've and I heard your RDJ. I've got no impressions, I've got no impressions. They make the funniest sound ever that I've heard. Like for a creature that's like running at you trying to attack you.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:36

It's a really cool reveal shot though, where HUD finds the night vision on the camera, and he's Rob is like helping him find it. So Rob's in view, the night vision turns on, and you see Rob, and then as the night vision like fills the screen, you see the parasites on the ceiling of the subway. And the only one that can see him is HUD. And so they start running and he's just like run. It's time to run. Yeah, they get attacked, and they're you know, they're they're fighting them off. Marlena gets bit but saves HUD, and so they escape the parasites, they they get into one of the they enter some, you know, one of the exits, uh one of the exits to head up to the street. One of the creatures is trying to break down the door, they manage to fight it off. And he's like Yeah, yeah, they sound like they do sound like that. It's a really strange noise they make. Um, yeah, these parasites, they're like the size of like of like a large dog, and they've got like six limbs, and they they look like little mini versions of the arachnids from Starship Two.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:32

So yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking when I saw them, especially the shape that they were, the legs coming out in front and kind of like a little arachnid.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:40

Yeah, and these are the creatures that are they're apparently covering the entire body of the of the large creature, uh, and they they just fall off it. They fall off it, and um so now they've they're treating Marlena's wounds and they're dealing, they're thinking of what to do.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:56

She's having like a heart to heart with HUD where he's like, I didn't think you were gonna come back and help me because he was getting like carried off. It was trying to drag him off.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:03

Yeah, he makes a comment about I felt like they were dragging me somewhere. So again, kind of giving a bit about wait, what were they gonna do with him? Uh yeah, and Marlena and Hud are bonding, they're starting to kind of have a connection. We know that Hud has a crush on her. It seems like she's warming up to him a little bit. Just poor timing on their part.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:19

Poor timing because he's just like, Thank you for coming back for me. And she just gives the greatest smile to him. And we're like, oh, maybe they'll be okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:26

Nope. Nope. Uh they have to give us hope. And I think even before this, but I think before they first enter the subway, before they're attacked, Rob gets a call from his mom and has to tell his mom that Jason died. And this is when we finally get Rob crying about uh about Jason and reacting to it. We see him and Lily hugging, so like again, emphasizing that.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:48

And her just over in the corner talking to Marlene, like, I don't know what to say to him, and she's looking at him do something.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:53

Um, and now they are have their three options are stay here in this room and die, or stay here and wait, you know, wait and see if more of those parasites come and get them. Head into the subway and see if it's cleared out, or go try their luck up on the street. And then Hud's response is okay. So our options are to die here, die in the subway, or die up there. And Rob's like, pretty much. Pretty much. I love it. They're like, they decide let's let's go take a peek and see what's going on up there. And and they go up, I think they enter in, they enter into the mall. They're they're in through a mall.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:27

That's where they finally like because they're going through this dark tunnel, because they find the stairs up, go through this dark tunnel, yeah. Find out that they're coming up through the mall, and as they're walking through it, then they see this blinding light in front of them. And it's the military, the military uh surrounds them. Uh which I found that reaction very weird because they're like, We got civilians, and they're pointing guns at civilians, like, what the heck's going on? Like, what why why is the military who's trying to help the civilians immediately like sees these people?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:58

Yeah, maybe they were hunting for the parasites, who knows? But yeah, like they're very aggressive, obviously. And so they they uh take them to I like you know a makeshift base, it seems like, and uh Marlena begins to make comments about how she's feeling. She's like she's starting to look sick, like her skin's getting pasty and pale, and she's sweating, and the military you see you see a military guy like walk by on a stretcher and his belly is just burst. Yeah, very like alien-coated.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:28

Uh and the I think you even hear the the paramedic that's like wheeling him, or the medic that's like, yeah, we got another bite here, and like the guy's already dead. Yeah. I was like thinking of it, I'm like, You got another bite? Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:42

And yeah, and like the Didn't someone get bitten? Yeah, we did someone in the group is bitten. So yeah, the soldiers telling them that they're the all they're they're gathering civilians to the evac ground, their people are getting helicoptered out, and yeah, like they're trying to get everybody out as they're gonna be right now. They're like he they explains they've they're gonna take one last crack at this thing with the what they've got, and if that doesn't work, that the government's approved. Then they're giving up operation, I think hammer down, I think it's called and he's like, they're he's like, Oh, like you're like, Oh, you're gonna give it a midtown. He's like, No, Manhattan, like exactly a midtown. Yeah, and he's like, they're like, No, this thing we're taking the whole thing. And then at this point, Marlena calls for HUD and says, like, I don't feel so good, and you she's like blood is coming out of her eyes, her mouth, and the one so someone's he's we've got a bite, we've got a bite, we've got a bite, and they drag, they they they get her, drag her into like this this small tent, everybody they're all freaking out, and you see her. It's such a cool the the way they do it is so cool. The shot so she's but she's in this little tent and the lights around her, so it's just her shadow, and you see her, she's freaking out, and you see her her midsection, her torso just begin to expand out like a balloon until it just pops and you just blood squirts all over the like the side of the tent and it's illuminated though through the light, and such a fucking brutal death for like for this character, you're like, holy shit man, like and um and so now for HUD. Yeah, and they're all freaked out. HUD is obviously the most upset. They're all upset, and like that's a pretty shitty way to go. Uh yeah, and then even like if you look, if you do like the digging into like the the ARG, the the viral campaign, like the creatures have so I guess this ingredient that they found that they put in the slusho, if it's like it di if it's ingested in its raw form, it like expands, and so I and I guess the parasites at the bottom of the ocean they feed on it in its raw form, so like they have like a high concentrated like volume of it like in their bite, which is why that happens to people. I get and uh interesting. Like I'm just like, oh like okay, so and then like and then like that's why the Yeah, because other ways, how do you explain it?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:54

You just get bitten, like Yeah. It it it looks like a sickness, so it looks like maybe bacteria, but no, it's a chemical because you have a physical reaction to it and you literally explode into a bag of I was like fucked it, that was brutal.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:06

I remember, yeah, that was a really brutal that was a super shocking and surprising death in the theater, and like and even watching it today, I was like, fuck man, that's brutal.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:13

I I wasn't ready for that. I didn't I I wouldn't have expected it because I'm thinking, okay, she got bitten, yeah, it wasn't worse for where, but like, you know, she's probably gonna be there with the rest of her movie, and all of a sudden, like within five minutes, she goes from like fine to sick to just blowing up in a in a quarantine tent.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:29

And that's like a death scene you give like a character that you don't like, like a sh like a like a character you hate in the movie, like, oh, we're gonna give them this fucked up death, but they give it to a girl that we are now beginning to warm up to, like, and his bonding with Hud, and it's like, no, sorry, we're gonna rip you away from that, and she's gonna explode.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:45

She was like the most normal one, other than Lily. And she wasn't even supposed to be there. Yeah, she wasn't she's like earlier because earlier in the movie, she's like, uh, she's on her knees and she's freaking out. She's like, How wasn't she supposed to be here? Yeah, and Hud's like, wait, weren't you supposed to go out with your friends? And she's like, Yeah. I'm not supposed to be in Cloverfield. This is not the movie I'm supposed to be in.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:03

Uh and she's still in Mean Girls in her mind. Yeah, I'm supposed to be in high school, and now she's exploded. Uh yeah, fucked up, fucked up death scene. And this is yeah, that's when the soldier explains what's happening.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:14

He's just like, where was Kevin? Why couldn't he save her?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:16

Right. Fuck Kevin G. Um, and so now they're told they have a time limit now. Uh it's late at night and they have until 6 a.m. before the city's basically gonna be uh destroyed.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:30

And so they've he that's it was like the chillest uh soldier because he's like he's like alright, we're evacu evacuating everybody here, but if you guys meet us here uh by this time, right, you're gonna get picked up, so be there at least then. I keep thinking about to to the shot from earlier where they're like, what is this thing? And they obviously they don't know what it is, but they're basically giving up the city, and he's like, We don't know what it is, but whatever it is, it's winning.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:59

Yeah, yeah, literally. We're not we're we're not making any progress.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:02

So they're just trying to get as many people as they can out.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:05

Um, so he tells him, yeah, basically this is you know, yeah, like you said, if they can make it to the backup site by 0600, they will get they will get rescued. Uh and so they he lets them go, and yeah, Hud and Lily kind of they're like reacting. Hud's obviously super distraught and upset by Rob again, is like, guys, like I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:26

Well they've already lost like two people, yeah. They really don't want to die. Yeah, like, can we get out of here, please? And Rob's like, nope, I gotta go get this.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:32

He's like, You guys can stay, but I gotta go. Like, it's fine, just go. And they're like, No, we'll go with you. At this point, I'm like, motherfucker, I'm out of here. This is your girl. I would have left. Like, you're the like this is your girlfriend. I don't even know this bitch. I would have swam across. Yeah, I'm gone. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:47

Brooklyn Bridge can fall down. I would have swam across. Sorry. I would have been.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:50

I mean, ultimately, they rescue it, they they do this, and it's like they all get fucked anyway. So they except for Lily. Lily makes it. We'll get to that. We'll get to that.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:59

And uh, yeah, so so they they run through, they run through towards Beth's home, and they are able to like like they get this cool shot of like, okay, she's just two blocks that way, and they come around the corner where they see her building, and half of the building is like it's collapsed over leaning against the other building, so they have to climb up the opposite building, but like conveniently her floor is still intact. Yeah, of course. Well, of course. It's movie, we gotta make it too eat too. And they're like, what the hell are we gonna do? And finally, HUD has a genius idea where he's like, Can we just go up like the other building? Jump on the top, like jump into her floor and cross over, and you see Rob's reaction to like he just turns around like you just had a genius idea. And Hud's reluctantly regrets it.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:42

He's like, Wait, no, no, no, not a good leave. I'm stupid, don't listen to me. So they do that. Uh, you know, so they yeah, they they they do that. There's the they have they jump across, make it into her building, and they find Beth. She's impaled on a piece of like pole on a pole of a rebar in her building. Uh they Think she's dead, but she comes to they pull her off the pitch.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:03

Well, by the way, the slowest uh way of someone that has rebar through their body to wake up because he's just like touching her and she just kind of like opens her eyes, like, oh, you're here, you came. And he's like, I did. Yeah, of course I did. You called me. You but like if I woke up and I had rebar through my like yeah, torso, I'd be freaking that get me the heck off of here.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:25

Yeah, um, it's a peachy, it's PG 13, man. They can't be too crazy. Uh so they rescue her, and then I love like when they get her up and uh you see the creature from the building, and she's like, because I she obviously hasn't seen what's she doesn't know what's going on. So she's freaking out. Yeah, she slept through all of Cloverfield. So she doesn't know. She doesn't know. She was in loading. Yeah, she wasn't aware that she wasn't aware that they she's in the movie Cloverfield. So she sees the creature and she freaks out. I love Hud's response. He's like, he's like, oh, he's like, that's something like very terrible. Like, uh, that's an awful thing. That's a bad thing. It's a really bad thing. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:03

Because he says it's a bad thing, then he goes, It's a really bad thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:06

Yeah, and then they they they escape, and then we get one more we get one more uh jump scare from the creature the pair little parasited, uh, but they kill it with an axe.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:16

And even then she's like, What the heck are those? They're like more bad things. Another terrible thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:20

That's like going down the stairs. Um so they yeah, they escape, and then from there, like it's like the the run through hell. We get a really good shot of the creature's face, like when they're running in the middle, like they're running to the evox evacuation, and like the military is just trying to keep it at bay, and like it's right, it's just destroying everything. You keep trying to hurt it, but it's going where it wants to be. But we get the cool shot where like all the explosions hit its like hit around its neck, and you see the face like clearly for the first time on camera. And Hud's like, you get to see the teeth. It's crazy. It's really like it's like nuts. You're just running through a freaking war zone, and they make it to the evacu station. You like HUD gets another shot at it, they and then um they make it on the chopper. Lily gets separated on a separate chopper, she takes off.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:06

For a second, like as they're getting to the choppers, you think, okay, this is it. The the evacuation is done. The creature's coming, he's about to destroy everything, and somehow they just make it so that it leaves that situation.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:20

HUD, Beth, and Rob are on one chopper. They're up in the air. Seems like they've made it. We see the creature, we finally get the bird's eye view of the creature, we get a full body view of it, we see its size, its scale, and they uh They do the the bomb run, yeah, basically. The bomber comes through, bombs it, and it knocks the creature down.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:41

So we believe the creature's been uh it's like the first time it's actually showing any like pain, any effect of the military having it against it because the the bazookas weren't doing it.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:51

Yeah, and so all the characters are they're kind of celebrating like celebrating its apparent defeat. There's a bunch of smoke from all of the the the explosion and fire, so you can't see the the the city anymore. They assume it's dead, and then of course then we you know we get the obligatory jump scare, of course, at the end of the movie where the monster screams through the um like scre like jumps through the smoke, it's roars and attacks and smacks the helicopter. Uh yeah, I remember that scene in theaters making everybody jump and scream. That was such a good thing. It's such a good scene.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:22

Yeah, like that scene, because you're you're thinking, okay, now the smoke's clear, it's probably on its ass, it's it's not gonna get back up. You're in a helicopter, you're high up, you're safe, you have this false sense of security, and all of a sudden this face comes out of the dust just to get your last bit of hope out of your mind.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:41

Yeah, and so the helicopter crashes onto the ground. Pretty they were pretty high up, so the fact that they survived is already kind of like, well, it's a stretch, but whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:49

Expect that it can jump that high. Yeah, that's another thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:53

I'm like, how did that thing get up? I don't know. It's it's a really weird thing, but I mean it's it yeah, the helicopter crashes. The pilots are dead, it's just a baby tantrum, yeah. Literally. Um and Rob is injured. Hud and Beth pull him out of the helicopter, and uh Hud goes, so they're gonna they're gonna try to find cover because they hear the the sirens are going off for the bomb.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:17

And of course, he's still holding the damn camera.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:19

He has the fucking camera still. I mean I love this shot where they just turn it. HUD goes back to get the camera, and then you Beth and Rob are screaming.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:28

HUD turns around and the creature is above him, and which I thought it was pretty comical because it it's it's both of them screaming his name at the same time in the same tone, just like HUD, and then he's like, What?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:41

Yeah, oblivious and the creature, yeah. The other thing too, it's like they didn't hear it, like you didn't hear the creature come. This part too, like I get a little like when I watch it too. I'm like, it doesn't look as big as it did when they were in the helicopter, like it doesn't and also again, uh also like like you didn't hear it. How did it sneak up behind you? Like you didn't hear the stomps in in in the Jurassic Park, you hear the steps of the T-Rex. The thing's been knocking skyscrapers down all night, and you didn't hear it. Like you you even you feel it walk like the rest of the movie. So you know, I there it's for the reaction, I get it. The surprise of it being there, but it's come on, guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:18

Like that just HUD is like oblivious, and so is the rest of the audience.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:21

But it's a it's a cool kill. So the creature picks up picks up HUD with it, grabs him with his mouth, brings him up, and it severs him in half. And the top half of him that's holding the it's somehow still holding the camera starts flying, like it's flopping down, so you see like the camera, like it's a really cool shot of like the upper half of his body falling to the ground. HUD is now dead, rest in peace, HUD. Gone too soon.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:44

Another one bites the dust.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:45

And then um, I guess the creature leaves, and Rob decides, well it's my turn how to hold the camera every though for whatever reason. So Rob goes to get the camera. I love how he's like screaming HUD as if like like dude, he's missing the lower half of his body. Like he's he's not alive, he's not coming.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:01

You can't get him to react to you right now. Nobody HUD's gone. Yeah, he's gone. He's he's dead. He's pretty stiff.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:08

He's as dead as they get, and it's your fault, dude. It's all Rob's Rob got all of his friends, got his brother killed. Except for Lily.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:15

Yeah, Lily made it who who she she got on the first helicopter that was not attacked.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:20

Yeah, so Rob it Rob grabs the camera and then him and Beth go take cover uh under a bridge because at this point there's nowhere to go, and they've you know accepted their fate, and the bombing run begins. They do a final goodbye on the camera. Very emotional, very sad. Uh Rob probably regretting ever meeting this woman.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:39

Worst mistake of his life. Killed his brother. Actually, no, it didn't. Because Jason died because they were trying to evacuate.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:45

Yeah, like this bitch.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:47

Definitely. Came back for you.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:48

You bring some other motherfucker to my party and I'm dying for you. Yeah. Fuck you. Yeah, why'd you bring Travis? Yeah, it's fucked up, man. And uh, so they give their final goodbye, you hear the creature in the distance roaring as the final bomb, the the bombing run goes off, Operation Hammer down, and they you know that they are seemingly killed in the explosion, the camera footage goes out, and that's the end of the movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:10

And they have to get you with that last connection of like the rocks are falling on top, and then he's like, hey, look at me, look at me. And it's just the I love you. Yeah. And then she's like, I love you, and now they're both dead.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:21

Pretty dour ending, though. I'm like, dude, this is a pretty fucked up ending. Everybody dies, then no one made it. Uh and then if you stay through the credits, you hear a voice at the very end saying, Help us. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:32

But if you play the tape goes back to the to the to the date uh that they had that that evening that because the the tape was recorded over the original, and they're on this date where they're on like they're on the fair spot, Cody Island, and in the background you see something falling into the ocean, and that's where all the speculation came of.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:52

Is that is that the creature or or did something like that? Or is it Chimpan 3? Did something crash and wake and that's what woke the creature up? So you know a lot of debate there, and then yeah, the credits start rolling.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:03

And you know, I looked at the video, it's still very faint to see, like, unless you saw it on the big screen.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:09

Yeah, well, even then, like I think it's purposeful.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:11

They don't want you to they they want you to watch it three or four times before you finally like catch on.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:17

They want it to be vague. Um, but yeah, if you stay through the credits at the very end, you hear a voice saying help us, but then if you play it in reverse, the voice says it's still alive. So it's seemingly it teasing the fate of the creature.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:31

And of course, you had to be like one of those guys that's less just obsessed with the strikes to find this out. To find that because it says help us, and then you have to physically grab it from the movie and play it backwards to hear still alive.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:46

That's that's the stuff that JJ Abrams loves to do, and his fans of his stuff, it was like that for Lost, for Fringe, for alias.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:55

Which is hilarious because that tidbit of that it's still alive, that wasn't known to one of the people that created it. Because from when it when it came out, they basically confirmed, yeah, yeah, it died at the last bombing run. Yeah. But the creative team that was behind that that created that tidbit, like, didn't it's like they weren't challenging.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:17

When you have a director, you have you have the director, you have the writer, you have a producer, like, and like they all kind of have their idea of what the movie is or what happened, and then the writer's like, I don't know, I wrote it. There's just nothing census. Yeah. Well, the writer's like, I didn't write that in the script. And the director's like, I didn't, you know, I think that was done after we after we filmed it, and J.J. was like, Yeah, we stuck it in and it was just a sound guy that added the Easter egg afterwards. I think that that actually came from that that change came because Steven Spielberg watched an early cut of the movie and told JJ Abrams, I think you should give the audience some sort of tease about the fate of the creature. Because I think at the end there was Noah, so that they did that. Rather than like have some like you know, show the maybe some debris moving or like the creature breathing, like they just said they did he did his own like mystery box version of well, maybe it's you know, still someone's saying it's still alive. Who who that is, who knows? Um but yeah, I mean that that's Cloverfield. I mean this January 2008, man. The 2008's a huge year. I mean, it's the it's that's it's Cloverfield, it's the Dark Knight, it's Iron Man, it's Tropic Thunder. It's a big year for movies.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:23

Uh it definitely had the competition stacked against it when it came out, but because of the trailer, it just so much hype.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:30

And it came out in the beginning of the year, so really it was before all the other movies even come out. But it did well. I mean, I think the it had a budget of around 30 million dollars and it made over 170 million in theaters, not doesn't include what it and this is still this to this is 2008, so DVDs and Blu-rays are that they're popping still. You can movies can still make money like on physical home media release.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:51

So it's I think Blu-rays were just getting popped.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:53

Yeah, it's still DVDs, so it probably did super well like on the home video market. Um, I mean, it it has it did well in the pirated media market, I could tell you that.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:03

Yeah, that I bought it there.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:04

So did you buy you bought someone record you brought someone in the theater recording the movie with the camera of the movie that's that's also filmed on a handheld camera?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:13

You know, I did buy some of those. I I do remember having a whole bunch of movies that were like that where you'd see an audience member stand up and it would go out of focus. But this one, because I think it it came out very strongly, yeah, that I think I and also it was a year after it had already come out, so obviously they've already had a digital release that they were able to kind of pirate it digitally, yeah. Which I don't uh promote pirating, please don't do it. Support your movies, go watch them in theaters, buy the DVD, absolutely stream it. Um, but yeah, I mean, growing up poor, that's kind of what I had to do sometimes. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:50

I mean, I I've got friends who are you know, they grew up poor or whatever, or some people are just like, I don't go to the fucking theaters. I I have this box and my I can watch whatever I want. I'm like, okay, you guys are great, but you're missing. Oh, you got the good stream box. You're missing out on the experience. Come on, guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:04

Yeah, the theater is like so underrated right now. Absolutely because it it it it's an art it's a form of entertainment that you don't get anywhere else. Like, yeah, you can be at home, have a giant TV, have a giant stereo system, but it's nothing like it's too many distractions. It's not the big screen, you know. Too many distractions.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:22

I mean, even if you have the greatest setup at home, you still got your phone, you got your phone, you've got if you got kids are gonna want something, you're gonna have to go to the bath. Like, you're just more comfortable and more inclined to get up and pause.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:34

I think the closest I've gotten to that kind of feeling is where I now have like a MetaQuest VR set, and I just put on my big headphones on with like a full sound range, and I'm I wait till my kids asleep, plug it in in the living room, and I put it on and I'm watching movies in a big screen.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:53

Just back-to-back porn. Um, yeah, man. Uh, I mean, yeah, like this again, like this was a movie I saw on theaters that was it was a it was a fucking awesome experience, and I you know, I was obsessed with this movie for for the many months and years after it came out. I rewatched it a lot. Some of you I I think before I saw it this morning, I don't I don't think I've watched it in maybe maybe 10 years, too. I mean it's been a long time since I've rewatched it. It's been a long time.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:19

We've had a lot of media since then.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:21

Like if you think about it, like yeah, like I probably rewatched it before the loose the the the quasi-sequel follow-up came out, 10 Cloverfield Lane. I probably probably rewatched it for that just to get fresh and see.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:36

And I think I rewatched it maybe for the third before the third one came out.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:40

Yeah, so so Cloverfield, it was it was a it was a big hit. It it it you know it had it did pretty well critically as well, and uh it had a you know a big following for the months and years to come with all the viral marketing. There was I think there was a manga series that came out for it as well. I never read it, but I remember there's something there was like a fan video game that was being produced for a while. I never I don't think it ever actually came out, but like it was like an unofficial companion game. And the and you know, there were discussions for an uh a direct sequel pretty quickly after the movie came out because it was a hit. They had T J Abrams and all of them at Tease that an idea they had originally was so on the scene where they're on the Brooklyn Bridge, HUD pans over and you see somebody else recording the events of the night, and they thought, well, what if we the the sequel what if the sequel is just another point of view? Uh that would have been interesting. So that was that that was an interesting note, and they talked about that for a while and it never came together. And I think too, because it's like it's the same movie, yeah. You're just you're gonna it's gonna it's gonna be the same outcome ultimately. So is it really maybe a different drama plot, which isn't the strongest part of that movie exactly, and and so I think the dilemma was do we do found footage again or do we just make do we make a traditional sequel like just a regular movie or like or do we do something different? I think that was always a difficulty, and then uh ultimately I think what what really delayed all this was because JJ Abrams, Matt Reeves, and Drew Goddard all became all blew up and became much more doing different projects, doing yeah, they they didn't really work together. They haven't I don't think they've they haven't really worked together since, honestly. Um but eight years later, a surprise uh teaser drops, very similar to this movie. I remember going to see this movie, it was 13 hours of Michael Bay War movie, so another Michael Bay movie for Paramount that came out in January, because I think it was a January movie. I go see the movie in theaters, and I have no idea that this uh anything because they've they kept it secret, and there's a surprise trailer for this weird movie about with John Goodman and Mary Elizabeth Winstead and another actor, um I can't remember his name, but three three people living in an underground bunker seemingly, and uh the trailer starts off very like playful with like an old like an old song. I think it's a cover of or a version of the I I think we're alone now, uh the Tiffany song. I I don't know if it's the original version of that or if it's just a version of Tiffany's song, a cover, but it's trailer the trailer starts off very playful and then becomes very sinister, and it and then to for the reveal of the title to become the I remember the the teaser ends and the screen goes black and then the the title Cloverfield comes up and then Tan Lane on each side appears and everyone's like what the fuck is this? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:44:29

This is nothing like the original.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:30

I was like, wait, wait, wait, what I was like, Cloverfield? I mean, what do you mean, Cloverfield? So you know, and then they really kept it secret, and then you know, leading up to it, JJ Abrams, the other so Matt Reeves and Drew Garden are not are not involved in that movie. JJ Abrams is a producer, and uh the or that movie basically is it's an it's a script called The Seller, which is very like the first like hour and 30 minutes of that movie is what that script was. I mean, there's some changes, but JJ Abrams basically finds that script and says, What if we kind of just make it very low budget? Somehow connected, and it really isn't honestly connected to the Cloverfield. It's just he and he even JJ said like it's not a sequel, it's like a it's like a cousin to the first movie. Um and then he kind of begins this thing where he, you know, so he's like, We found this script, and I thought, well, what if we add a sci-fi element to it? And so that movie is very like it's a it's kind of like a susp like a psychological thriller where the entire movie, John Goodman's character, is telling everybody they're in a science fiction movie, that there's something has gone wrong on the surface. He has this underground bunker, he seems like he's a crazy guy, and the whole movie is him telling everyone, you guys, you guys are in a science fiction horror movie, there's aliens or there's a creature, whatever, there's something up there that went wrong, and I'm and I'm keeping you safe. And the characters are like trying to like escape or get answers that he's like, and and then you know, I don't want to get too deep in this.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:59

Every time they trust him, something happens where they they they they still have doubt.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:03

Yeah, and then the end of the movie there is a reveal as to whether or not he was right or not. And again, it's it I I love that movie, I think it's a fucking great movie. I I went to the show.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:13

I rewatched it this week. I I I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought it would. Yeah, I think I watched it back then, yeah. And when I watched it, I'm like, this is nothing to do with Cloverfield. Uh the only thing the same is the font and title. Right. But other than that, like they were very, very separate movies. So it's like I don't know, I don't know how it connects, but I definitely enjoyed it then and I definitely liked it a lot now.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:35

Yeah, I remember seeing it in theaters and I was really I really really liked it. I think yeah, Parbean was like, okay, well, where's the monster? Where's the Cloverfield monster? And it's it's it's not in the movie. If whether or not something is in the movie, you guys should watch it and see. Um, but I really I really liked the I think it works really, really well, and I think the final like 10 minutes was probably what was divisive to people. Uh the reveal the last 10 minutes. I I love it. I love I love the entire movie. I think it's a great movie. I think honestly, it's a better made movie than Cloverfield. I love Cloverfield, of course, but yeah, production, you know, build images. I I think I think it's a much stronger script, 10 Cloverfield Lane.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:11

I think it's better drama. I mean, because the biggest switch from this to the first one is the first one is more action, more suspense, maybe a little bit of plot. And this one is almost all plot.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:24

It's all tension, drama, you get to know the characters. The characters are great, and it's it's it works so so well. I I love it. If you I'd strongly recommend you don't have you do not have to see this Cloverfield to watch San Cloverfield Lane, they're very they're completely separate.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:38

There's I guess just like the In fact any move any of the series movies you can stand up.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:43

And then, you know, so that was in that movie was again this 10 Cloverfield Lane was made in secrecy, and that's and I think that opened the door where JJ's like, well, I think we'll have like a Clover universe where we're not necessarily tied to Cloverfield, but there's just kind of they all live in the same, they all share like DNA and like the same kind of you know, a surpr there's just it's not what you expect, or whatever it is, and I think that was what he thought. I think fans, although I think although 10 Cloverfield Lane is was critically beloved, like I I think it got better reviews than even Cloverfield did, um and it did pretty well. It was it was a cheap it was a low budget movie that made a bunch of money too. And I think fans though being disappointed that that uh the Cloverfield monster from this movie just does not appear in in that in Ten Cloverfield Lane. I think he took that to heart as okay, let's maybe we should figure out a way to bring it back. Like clear clearly there's a love and want for that monster again, but they've not been able to crack a story that involves it again. So then comes the Cloverfield Paradox, which has a similar origin story as Ten Cloverfield. So 10 Cloverfield Lane was a s a script called The Cellar, which is if you watch the movie, the first hour 20 is essentially what that script is. It's a bunker. It's a bunker, and they just they added on, they tacked on the final 15 10-15 minutes of uh 10 Cloverfield Lane. JJ Abrams rewrote the script with uh I think Damian Chazelle, who directed, who made Whiplash and Babylon and Lala Lan worked on that script. So he basically like retooled the script to to be make it in his a more of a bad robot production, kind of in line with what JJ Abrams likes to do. Same thing with this movie, the Cloverfield Paradox, which is it was a uh it was a script called the God Particle, which for the most part is follows the story of what this movie the Cloverfield Paradox is, but then they added this one kind of shoehorns in the Cloverfield monster everywhere. Like uh and it doesn't make like it so this one was another kind of so the god uh the movie was made on under the title The God Particle, and I think originally it wasn't supposed to be tied to Cloverfield, but it was gonna be a bad robot movie. And the premise was cool. The premise was about a group of like scientists mess with quantum physics And then they they make the earth disappear or something like that. When it was being made, when it was announced, I thought, oh, that's cool. And then the movie kind of was made and it kind of no one heard anything about it. And I remember the whole the big thing about this movie was it was it kind of just went away. And then Super Bowl 2018, I believe I believe it, yeah, it's 2018, Super Bowl 2018, one of the commercials is an it's it's an ad for this movie, and nobody knows it's coming, and it's called the Cloverfield Paradox. Everybody's like, what the fuck? Again with their marketing, it's just like and then the big shock was it'll be streaming at 6 p.m. after the Super Bowl. Yeah. A surprise movie drop. I remember watching it like I was blown away. I like by the reveal, not the movie, but the revealing that it's a Cloverfield and then and then the trailer for in the Super Bowl gives a glimpse or a hint that the Cloverfield Monster is in it, which is what we all want. Holy fuck, it's a it's back. So I ended up I remember watching the movie that night.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:04

Um honestly great marketing. It's just like, oh hey, our movie's dropping tonight to the to the most giant audience you can reach. Like people watching the Super Bowl. Yeah, how do you reach that many people then out of the Super Bowl? Hey, we're dropping it tonight. Yeah, movie sucks.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:22

It's not good. It's not good. Oh, that would have been a biggest upset. The movie's not good. Um did you did you like it? Or no, I don't I the movie's not good. Really? I don't like Cloverfield Paradox at all.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:33

I think it's it's not strong at all, obviously. But the only reason I think it works is because it's it's the one thing that connects the other two and the whole universe. But I think because of the whole shift that they do in it.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:49

I I can see that, and I think that's what ultimately throws me off of it, is it just feels so the the forced connection to bring in back bring back the Cloverfield monster and make an explanation as to why 10 Cloverfield Lane and Cloverfields are not, I guess, in the same universe. It creates the clover multiverse, basically and tries to give a reason as to where the monster came. Like it but it does it does it in such a convoluted way where I'm like, wait, like, wait, so what like they throw it in, but really it has nothing to do with the main plot that's going on. And that was kind of the thing, like that's not what the movie was not a like.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:26

The dude's over there freaking out about his arm being gone and the other dude with his eye wandering.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:32

Yeah, I think there's there are cool ideas in it, and I think it could have been a really cool sci-fi horror movie as a standalone, but the problem was it got shh it got forced in Frankenstein into becoming a part of this Cloverfield universe because James didn't work because JJ Abrams thought, well, we just let's just figure out a way to make it make sense so we can connect Cloverfield and 10 Cloverfield Lane. I'm like, guys, you didn't need to do that. Exactly. Didn't need to do that. I mean, I get maybe calling that movie 10 Cloverfield Lane wasn't the smartest thing in the world because people expected something, but whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:01

Like, it's if you could have gotten rid of all the Easter eggs and just done a great movie, it could have been an anthology and then put that little tidbit at the end, and that would have been okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:11

But they they so yeah, and then the final review of like now it's just like this super giant version of a chlorophyll monster that can like pierce Earth's atmosphere, I guess. I don't know, like just above the clouds. I was just like, what the f like what it like it's it just it's like they tried there they tried to explain, I guess, how the monster came to Earth in a way, but ultimately I think it was more confusing because they're trying to they did make it more confusing.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:35

Like, like I get it's a multiverse and they're the third time that the story of the monster's origin changed. Yeah. So like at first it was from Earth, then it was an alien, and now it's from a different dimension.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:46

Yeah, like what the hell? Ridiculous. I was like, I I don't like it. I was disappointed with it. Um and now they are I mean, they've I think they they I think since 2018 or twenty no, like twenty twenty-ish, twenty twenty-one, they've been in development for uh uh an official sequel to Cloverfield. They had had one director on it, I think he left, and they got a writer. They have there's currently a director attached, and I think he made comments as recently as 2025 that he's still attached, there's but he can't say anything, they're still working on it. Um, but I'm hopeful they do it. I'm hopeful, like I feel like I would love to see. Let's make a like an actual sequel like that make like let's ignore Chloeville paradox, like just make a traditional, like let's just make a movie with the monster in it. We don't need to go super into like where it came from. I don't really care where it came from, like don't ruin the mystery. Like, you just give just you can reveal more without revealing everything and making it and you know eliminating the mystery. So I hope they make it. I mean, I I really want them to. I I think there's a desire for it for sure. I think I think it would do well. You know, I think you could, you know, yeah, you don't have to make it like a Godzilla or a King Kong or Godzilla vs. Kong type event level movie. You could probably make it for a modest budget and still make it work, but we'll see.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:59

I mean, I'm kind of ditching the whole like found footage thing, so they can't make it that cheap.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:03

Yeah, well, I mean, and even found footage now is basically a dead genre. Nobody really wants to like it doesn't it's not like I think I don't want to see Thor carrying around an iPhone for three hours. No, and I think that whole that whole trope or that whole trend is has been over for a few years. It it was popular for a while because you can make those movies for cheap. You can make a found footage movie for cheap, and you could make a good you'd make a bunch of money.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:26

And I think something one that came out that was close to kind of that feeling was um Talk to Me as the with the hand, the horror movie. I love that movie. I love that movie. But it had kind of like that feeling of like you're in the room with the movie. Well, the filmmaking is so cool. It's not found footage, but it's not found footage. The way they moved the camera. Yeah, I loved it when that movie. If they did that as found footage, I feel like it would have worked, but it's not found footage. No.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:49

And it kind of gives it that like like Yeah, it could be. Um Yeah, I mean That movie's great too. I love Talk to Me. I love it. I think that's that's one of the one of the most that's one of the coolest horror like original horror movies in a while. Like in the way those guys and it was unique moved that camera and and It was like an original story that just came out of nowhere. Yeah, I love that whole world, the whole lore they built in that movie. It's it's so cool. Great ending, fucking crazy ending. Great ending. If you've not seen Talk To Me, fucking see it. Um I'm I'm I'm gonna cover uh that those directors, the the br the brothers, they the second they did bring her back. I haven't watched it yet, but I'm gonna do it on this on the show in a couple weeks, so I'm excited to like that'll be like uh You haven't watched it yet? I've never seen it. I haven't seen it either. I haven't seen it. I wanted to watch it, but I some of the s like some of the subject material in the movie that I've heard is I I just have a problem with like crazy things happening to kids now because now I have a kid. I'm like I have the same exact problem. It's hard, like I'm not so inclined to go see it right away, although I'm a big fan of these guys and I want it so but I'm gonna watch it for the for the show, so it'll be kind of fun for me. It'll be a movie that I've never seen before that the guest has seen a few times, so it's kind of a reverse, you know. So I'm excited. I'm excited to experience it and see how I react to it. Um I've heard it's fucking gnarly, so I'm excited to see it. Um yeah, man, I mean that uh thanks for this has been a fun conversation, man, talking about Cloverfield and all this all this Cloverfield universe bullshit. Um fun movie, but uh um yeah, man. What about you? Are anything you've watched recently besides besides Cloverfield that week that you're you've been super stoked on? It could be it could be new or something old that you have never seen or have gone back to.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:25

Uh I watched um about two weeks ago. I watched um the one with Mark Wahberg. Uh Boogie Knights. Oh, a great movie. Great movie, but I was not ready for it. Yeah. I was not ready for it. Uh Don Cheadle, fucking great. Uh a lot of great actors in that movie, but I was not ready for it. Um if you if you haven't seen Boogie Knights, watch carefully. It takes a turn. Take a huge turn. Uh try it carefully. Don't just go out and watch it. I was not ready for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:54

Yeah, I love that movie. I love that movie. It's a great, it's a great movie. That's a director who I've come to love more recently. Heather Graham. She's Heather Graham, Julian Moore. Yeah, yeah. Great uh Philip Seymour Hoffman, Don Cheadle, Mark Walro, Burt Reynolds. Yeah. Uh Alfred Molina, Dr. Octopus is in that movie. Um is it yeah, Thomas Jane, the Punisher. Oh no, is it Thomas Jane? No, it's yeah, it is Thomas Jane, I think. The Punisher. Uh or is it Thomas? I don't know, one of them, but one of the Thomas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is him, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:58:23

Yeah, he's the dude with a handlebar. Yeah. Uh I saw I watched that a couple weeks ago. Um definitely uh experience. Um I was before that I was watching Plurribus. Oh, yeah, that's a good show. Great show. Great sci-fi show. I gotta catch up. Um trying to catch up on Fallout. Yeah, I'm I'm on that.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:41

I gotta catch up on the boys. Season starts, I think, next week.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:45

You guys were talking about Mother's Milk last last week.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:47

I'm like, oh, I need to watch it now. Yeah. Any new movies or shows coming up that you're looking forward to?

SPEAKER_01 1:58:54

I'm excited about it. I mean, I haven't really so because I'm uh pure like I watch whatever I want to watch whenever I want. I never get to see previews really much. So I like I don't go to YouTube, I don't go to I don't get to see any previews. I don't know what's coming out recently. Um there's something that I would probably like coming out, especially with the new like people coming out with horror that is unique and new. I mean horror is definitely horror's in such a good place right now. It's it's amazing. But um obviously I'm open to it, but other than that, I've just like been watching shows and kind of like re-watching old shows, but catching up on new ones that maybe they've been out for like the summer or since last summer that I'm trying to catch up. Um other than that, I mean I think the newest one that I saw, trying to think of it, uh pulled it out. Um uh To Your Eternity with uh the Olsen. Oh, Miles Teller Eternity. Yeah. I loved it. I mean, I love rom coms as well. Yeah. Oh, I am excited for Devil Wars Prada 2. I am too. I want to go watch it at the end. I'm a big Devil Wars Prada fan. Kevin's sisters, uh-huh, we watched it all together. Yeah. Like, oh, we gotta go watch it at theaters when it comes out. So I'm a big fan of that. Yeah. That's probably the most exciting one that's uh there. Like, I'm like, I wanna go watch that as Devil Wars Prada 2.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:16

Yeah, there's a movie coming up just kind of piggybacking off of Anne Hathaway who's in Devil Wars Prada 2. She has a movie coming out this year that's produced by JJ Abrams, directed by a guy named David Robert Mitchell who did the movie It Follows. I don't know if you ever saw that one. They has they have a sci fi a big sci-fi movie coming out this year in August called uh The End of Oak Street. The trailer gives off very Cloverfield vibes for sure. People thought it was a Cloverfield, like uh one of the would be out of character. It's not. Well they've said it doesn't happen. They've said it's not. Does that mean it's not? No, but because they've said no before and they JJ Abrams is a notorious liar. But anyways, the movie it's a bit the premise is this entire neighborhood gets transported back to prehistoric times, and so like it's just basically like imagine like uh just like the like the street, literally like just a chunk of earth you and your neighbors in present day getting trant somehow sent back in time to prehistoric times. There's a glimpse of a dinosaur in the trailer, so um I'm locked in, but it looks good. It's it's it's that sounds fun. Again, directed produced by JJ Abrams, who produced this movie and the other Clover Phillip films we talked about. Cool director, it's got Ann Hathaway, you and McGregor. Um so I'm excited. It looks there's a teaser online. Um it doesn't really doesn't give away anything, so I would I I would check it out if you if if you want, but or anyone would, but I'm excited for that movie. I'll definitely look for it. Um I'm a big I love dinosaurs, so and I love sci-fi and uh my son's been on a dinosaur kick.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:39

I've been re-watching everything Jurassic Park for like the last four years. Yeah. So like he's been rediscovering, which is one of the greatest joys of being a parent, is kind of going back and to your back catalog of stuff that you love when you were younger and just showing it to your kid and then him falling in love with it and then new stuff coming out, which kind of reinforces that.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:59

Yeah, I'm excited for that chapter. Yeah, my daughter, she's she's right now she's all into like Pixar and Disney, but like you know, it's good to watch those movies, but she's been getting into like Spider-Man. Yeah. So again, superheroes to like show what like they have like the like the kids' versions of like Spidey and his amazing friends. There's like an Iron Man, she's watching that. So it's funny what it's funny when she watches it and she's like, Oh, look, that's Ultron, or that's uh that's the thing, that's Modoc. And I'm just like, I'm just like tears, like, I'm such a proud father. But I showed her the Spider-Verse movies the other day, and she's into them because she loves like the Spidey and his amazing friends has like Miles Morales and Gwen Spider-Gwen. So those movies have them.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:35

So he loves, yeah, like he just loved the animated one. Yeah, so seeing that.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:40

Yeah, it's great. I'm like, I'm making I just want to make you a little nerd, please. So I'm excited for that to us, but that's been cool to see, man. It's been cool to watch. But uh, but yeah, man, it's I I it's been great having you on, dude. This is really fun, a lot of really fun conversation to have with you. I tried. You did great. I tried. You did great, bro. I I really appreciated having you on here. You had you had some insight, you had some stuff to say, you had opinions, you had your own little little tidbits here. Um Cloverfield, man. That's a movie you and I both love. Alright, go watch it. Glad we were watching. If you haven't seen it, go watch it. Check it out, guys. Spoiled the whole movie here, but it's it's a fun ride. I recommend putting the movie on, turning the lights off, turning the sound up high, and just go along for the ride. Put the bass on though. Put the bass on. It's a great time. And if you get emotional sickness, one, you're a pussy, and two, tread carefully.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:22

Uh sit away from the TV. Take a couple steps back.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:25

Yeah, go outside, breathe some fresh air. Um, but yeah, man, thanks for coming on. This is this has been great. Um, everybody that's been listening, thank you guys for listening. Uh, please keep tuning into the show. I'm in desperate need of listeners and uh money.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:39

So just yeah, we gotta get him off the corner, people.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:42

Yeah, like he needs more money. There's been how many gunshots since you and I have been recording here? It's been it's been terrifying.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:47

Those dance crews, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:48

Dude, I'm telling you. It's yeah, it's my rival dance crew outside. They're they're trying to beef it. That's why I can't go outside. That's why when you got here, I was like, Can you just come to the door? Because I can't go out there. I'll get it.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:57

And I'm over there in another block. Yeah, you were in the wrong neighborhood. I'm in the wrong place.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:00

Can't go to that neighborhood, man. That's that's that's the rival crew. But I ran.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:04

I ran.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:06

But yeah, thank you everybody for listening. Please uh follow along on to on the pod on Instagram at did you see this pod. Please rate, review, subscribe, like, share. Um, I always forget to record some sort of outro for these episodes, so I'm doing it now. I'm gonna try to be a little more organized going forward. And you know what, Puncho, you just you bring out the best to me. So I'm just here doing what I can do.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:26

Thanks for having me on, man. I I enjoyed this. Yeah, bro. All right, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:29

Well, thanks everybody.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:30

Take care.