Fast Five

Felix returns to the podcast this week to discuss the next episode in Rudy's journey to cover the Fast Saga, this time it's Fast Five (and a little about the fourth movie, Fast & Furious). We'll navigate this movie like two precision drivers, guys who don't crack under pressure, guys who never lose. The boys cover Vin Diesel's online presence, The Rock's career, further adventures in the Fast Saga, and talk about movies they've seen recently (everyone needs to prepare to hear Rudy talk about Obsession for the next several weeks). Salud mi familia. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:34

I wrote notes for this one. Hell yeah. For the movie. They're not very good, but I put I jotted a couple things down. It's a fun movie. Yeah. I will say, when you were like, oh, it's it's probably the the best, it's better than the fourth one. I watched the fourth one and I was like, oh, this is decent. Yeah. Um but this one I was like, there was a bunch of cheesy moments, but I was like, I was thinking about life back then, and I'm like, dude, this was so badass. But like the quotes, like my wife and I watched um Armageddon. Oh, yeah, yeah. And it was the same, it was the same thing where with just like the zoom in, and then they would say like the line. Yeah, not to do it. That's Michael Bay. Like, it's very like in your face, we need to like. Yeah, my wife's like, dude, are you serious? I'm like, dude, this was the shit back.

SPEAKER_03 1:21

So 90s. This one harkens back to like that kind of vibe for sure. Like, that's kind of what they do in this one of our life. It's like kind of like a throwback movie, which is why I think why I like it a lot. That was fun. It was fun. But but yeah. Hey folks, welcome to Did You See This with Rudy Martinez. I'm your host, Rudy Martinez, joined by returning guest, Felix, making his debut after you were you an early guest on the show. I think you were like you're the fourth episode. Fourth episode? Yeah. And uh he came on, shitted on a movie that I love. Dude, I welcomed you into my home.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

You just disrespected me. That movie, I think about it once a week, and I'm like, that movie was bad. I think about like how they superimposed his eyes to be super blue, and I'm just like I see it in my dreams. Yeah, you just see them, it's just darkness and the eyes open.

SPEAKER_03 2:07

Yeah. So um, and on that on that episode, we talked about shared love of Vin Diesel. Yes, sir, and uh just everything that he is, the essence that he is. Um, and we talked about coming you coming back on to do fast five. Yep, a movie that you had apparently thought you had seen at the time we talked about it. That I uh I discovered last night, apparently you as well, that you had never actually seen Fast Five.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

I've never seen it. I saw Fast and Furious, which was the fourth one. Right, but it's funny because they both start the same, right? Like it's like shot for shot, they're going after, and that's why when it started, I was like, Oh, I remember this part. And then I was like, wait, I thought they were going after a truck, yeah. But it's like the Vin Diesels in the the prison thing, yeah, and then it flips and he's fine. We'll get into it.

SPEAKER_03 2:51

Yeah, so I obviously I've done I did the first three movies on the show. Thought I would do an episode for every movie, but not I don't think not every movie w warrants a full conversation, I don't think, because some of them are just so you had seen the fourth movie Fast and Furious, or as um the folks in the streets call, we call it Ampersand. Um what? The symbol, the ampersand symbol, the and because it's just fast. Oh ampersand furious. There you go. Uh the the family, it's what the family calls it.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

Dude, that's so true. Cause they were like they were like, let's make fast and the furious, and then they got they're like, let's get rid of the the yeah, and then it was like the social network, drop the the the and they're like yeah, that's so funny.

SPEAKER_03 3:32

Somebody in a boardroom was like raised immediately. Dude, but yeah, so the first three obviously is very kind of they're all very different. Vin obviously leaves after the first one, yeah, and then uh Brian Paul Walker leads the second movie, and then nobody comes back for the third one except for Vin in a surprise cameo at the end of Tokyo Drift.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

Never seen it. You've never seen Tokyo Drift, dude. So I told you this yesterday. I was like, I've never This is the third movie I've ever seen. Fast and like I watched the first Fast and the Furious, obviously, because it was like the movie back in the day. Right. It was like the older brother, older cousin movie. Yeah. Um and then I watched Fast Fast and Furious, right? And that was it. I think I've seen Tokyo Drift, like parts of Tokyo Drift, but I'm not comfortable being like, oh yeah, I knew what it is. I know what it is. I just remember the scene that is now a meme of the Asian dude in front of the car. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

That was it. Yeah. So um, so he's not in it. He he comes out in a cameo at the very end. Uh Finn Diesel, and that was uh basically uh an agre a handshake agreement he had with Universal to come back in exchange for the rights to the Riddick movies he does, the Chronicles of Riddick, pitch black. He like came in and was like, I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna finesse these guys, and they're they were like, I want the rights to the Riddick franchise, and and instead of you guys don't have to pay me to do the cameo, I'll do it. Just give me the rights. And the studio was like, What franchise is he referencing? They called some guy down in the basement, like, can you do we have the rights to a Riddick franchise? They yeah, so it was like he pulled out a dusty DVD BHS combo. He's like, Yeah, yeah, this remember, yeah. So because of this deal that I think he thought he was, you know, getting the upper hand on, he does this cameo. Dude, Vin Diesel's the shit, they're amazing. Um, and so now, and then he comes then after the third movie is success, it's it it doesn't do as well box office-wise in the US, but it does really well overseas. So I think it showed the studio like, oh, there's like there's some traction here, and the cameo got people excited. They're and everyone's like, Oh shit, like people like want yeah, guess people just love Vin Diesel in this role, they want Dominic Toretto. So then we get the development starts on Fast and Furious, and they decide let's bring everybody back because it's for whatever reason it seems like people are nostalgic for the first movie for what somehow that no one no one understood why or where that came from, but they're like people seem to like love these movies, like that movie and that that cast. So they bring back Vin Diesel, Paul Walker, Michelle Rodriguez, Jordana Brewster, and now Vin Diesel is a producer on the franchise. And this is like the beginning of his like iron fist ruling over the franchise, like the Universalists like not knowing what they're about to go through with this guy as he takes control more and more as each movie goes on. His power just grows. Literally, like every movie that the power of family makes him stronger. Dude, brutal. And uh yeah, and so the fourth movie, um, when it came out, I remember being like kind of a big deal because everyone's like, Oh fuck, like it they brought back everyone's back, and that was like the whole like the the the tagline is uh new model original parts. So like that's like the whole slogan of that one, and it was all about if we're back, and you know, again, they dropped the the on the title. Uh and um yeah, I specifically remember that trailer playing a lot because it always played uh crankdat by Soldier Boy. That was the song in the trailer, and it's like the scene of them robbing the the tanker in the beginning of the movie, and like the the trailer's like trying to like hide that it's Vin Diesel, like they you're showing you them like robbing the tanker, but there's no close-ups on anybody's face, and like after like the first like 45 seconds, there's a the camera like pans down, you see Vin Diesel driving the car, and everyone's like, ooh fucking that was it was sick, dude. It's sick. Like the trailer was sick, and then like she you're you know, like getting all the characters back was cool. Yeah, um, the movie is entertaining, it's fine. Like, I don't I I think it gets a lot of hate. I don't I don't mind it. I've watched it in recent, like recently. Um, and it's I think it's just nice to see everybody like them back together. There's really nothing to it. Yeah, no, it's like I remember like the big every movie has to have a gimmick, right? You know, the first movie it's all about the Nas. Second one, it's like we're in Miami, the neon lights, the third one, it's drifting, and the fourth one, the thing is it's a GPS, or it's like the like the gimmick, like every GPS system.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

That's like the big, the big thing. Like that was for all you kids out there. Uh yeah, back in the day you had to buy a like a Garmin GPS. Yeah, and I remember remember at Circuit City, they had like a whole aisle dedicated, and it was like, Oh, this one has you could save your roots. And I was like, dude, this is the future.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, that that didn't last very long. That's 2009. So iPhones uh get a map on you have the iPhone map like not too long after that. So that that whole fad went uh went away quicker. That movie gets movie gets got gets very dated very quickly. That's so funny. Um, but yeah, that whole movie is like you know, now Brian's an FBI agent. So all of his uh you know past crimes of being a crooked officer have been forgiven, apparently for somehow. Um Dominic Toreto is in hiding somewhere in some, you know, in one of his with some vague, you know, whatever vaguely Latin family he's with. He apparently has family. If it's like some sort of Spanish or Latin or Hispanic country, he has family there. He has family in in Brazil, in Cuba, and Portugal, like and he's all of them.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

And he's like what's what and then even like it's funny because Vin Diesel transcends the movies. Like, you don't Dom Toreto and Vin Diesel are one, right? Like, like he's such a ridiculous person that in his mind he's like, Oh, I'm Dom Toreto.

SPEAKER_03 9:20

Yeah, and that basically happens after that fourth one, like the the line where Vin Diesel and Dominic Toreto, like there's it blurs.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

Yeah, yeah. There's um, I think they're doing this. Is actually perfect that we're doing this one because they're doing like a 20-year or 25 year old 25 year I can, yeah. And there's all these clips coming out of him, like out of can from interviews. I saw one yesterday that the lady was like, What does this mean to you? And just dead silence for probably like 15 seconds, and it's so uncomfortable. And she's like, like the movies, like what it and he looks at her and goes, What does this mean to you? She's like, uh, I mean, you were my first childhood crush. And then the thing, like, it just derails derails. Like, if you if you're on TikTok, look it up. But um he's just he's incredible.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

There's nobody like him in the business. Like I was looking up, so he was um really big on Facebook. He was one of the he was one of the first guys that was like doing the social media thing. Like, yeah, you know, when you nowadays you think of like how The Rock or Kevin Hart utilized social media to like grow their brand. Yeah, well, Vin Diesel did that on Facebook, like initially. He was the guy, and he would go like on he would go like on live or he would just and he and then one of the best things I think he liked to call it, he called it Vin Book. That was what he and drop the face at Vin. Yeah, and he would put pictures of like with like quotes from like Gandhi and like just like famous, you know, humanitarian folks, and what put and then put his face on the picture, like with the quote.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

Dude, it's literally like in the office when he he writes Wayne Gretzky's quote, right? And then he he quotes Wayne Kretzky, puts all that around quotes, and then puts Michael Scott. Yeah. He's literally, yeah, he's a caricature of himself.

SPEAKER_03 11:15

And yeah, he he puts the quote, but he doesn't like put who did it, but then just has a picture of him, almost as if he's the one who said it, but clearly he's not, you know?

SPEAKER_00 11:24

And then he'll be like, he'll be photoshopped into like a lion's yes face or around a bunch of uh African animals, and he's just standing there with a quote.

SPEAKER_03 11:36

Right. There is one where he's where he's I think it it's clearly not real. Like he's like it's him, and then there's like a like like a lion kitten, like in like like getting fed a bottle, but like it's clearly not him doing it, but he's like crowded in a way to seem like like he's doing it, and it's like we should all love animals. Like it's something, it's like rid it's there's just nobody like him. It's so funny. And he's so earnest, like he's he means it. Like he's not doing it like to be it's not a bit, it's not a bit. Like he truly thinks what he's like doing. He's he's doing it with like the most like meaningful intent that he can. Like, he's giving it all.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

He's like, this is gonna just this is gonna move mountains. Yeah, I think in his mind, he wakes up every day and he's like, today I'm just gonna move mountains.

SPEAKER_03 12:22

Yeah, yeah. I mean, even the way he talks about the Fast and Furious franchise. I remember when I think the ninth or the most recent the tenth one was coming out, before one of them, he was he he compared the Fast and Furious saga uh to be on the same level as like Lord of the Rings. Like just like I agree, obviously.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Dude, I just see photos of him and I like and you and I share like in our our DMs are just a mess, but and our algorithms are horrible. But uh I think I don't know if you sent me a video of him working out, like doing bicep roles to uh what's that song?

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Um uh fade into you.

SPEAKER_00 13:08

Oh yeah, yeah. He's just doing like he's just working out to this like sad song. I'm like, dude, and I'm sure it was some quote of like we need to love each other, yeah. Uh dash V.

SPEAKER_03 13:20

Yeah, he signs every Instagram post, like as if we don't know who's who's making the post. Like we we see your name right there, dude. Oh man we see you in the video. Yeah, it he like there. I remember there was uh the the tr that really famous video he did where he's dancing to drunken love by Beyonce. Yeah, yeah, he's like singing it, and then he posted a video of him singing, I think it was Stay by Rihanna, like that. I think he tried to singing it, and everyone's like, but it's like it he does these things, and like anybody else would be like, What are you doing? And like, but because it's him, everyone's like, Yeah, this is like the greatest video on the internet. Like he's been useless. Yeah, he won today.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

Uh did you see that live where he's on the red carpet and he's like, he's like, I'm on, I'm live on the red carpet, and he's like showing everyone, he's like, uh kisses or whatever. He's like kissing them, and then he puts his he puts his phone in his pocket. It's still going for like 45 minutes, and it's just on live. And he gets his phone and he's like, uh and he does this like this like groan, like looks at you, he's like, Oh, oh, I've had you guys in my pocket for this terrible Vin Diesel, but he's like, I've had you in my pocket for a while. Sorry, y'all, sorry, and then he just gets off. It's fucking amazing, dude.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

Yeah, shout out Vin Diesel. It's so crazy. It's so funny when you watch him in like uh in interviews, seeing a we're seeing a I guess quote unquote realer version of him. I don't know that that's actually who he is, but but like you watch like the Fast and Furious movies, and he's like he's adding like the gravel, like the gravel to the voice to Dominic Toretto. It's very you know masculine and you know, a lot of terrestrial like testosterone. And then like in real life, he's just very he's very like soft spoken, like kind of kind of a feminine voice, really. Mark Sinclair, yeah, like for sure. Yeah, Mark Sinclair. That's his real name.

SPEAKER_00 15:09

Um for those who don't know. Yeah, he's he's an angel. Have you have you seen the this is the last thing I'll bring up, but um the the interview he's doing with this, like she's a like a pretty reporter, and he's like, Oh my god, you're so beautiful, and it gets so uncomfortable, and he's like, Are you kidding me? I want to take you home, and like starts like going up to her, he like takes his shirt off. Dude, it's so weird. And the girl's just like, haha. So yeah, in Fast and Fear, he's like, Oh my god, look at you, and then he he gets this weird, like Cuban Dominican accent. Like, he does it in the movies too. Like, yeah, one scene he'll have like a Dominican accent, and then the next one he's just Mark Sinclair, and then he'll have like a Cuban accent, and you're like, dude, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:55

And he he's his like back his ethnicity is like already ambiguous as it is. Like he he claims he's like very he if you ask him, he's he's all races, he's everything. Like he he's ever whatever background he needs to be for the movie, he he he'll do it. Uh and yeah, and in these movies, yeah, as as they go on, he just the Toretto's are just all over, all over the cut the country, or the the world, really. Yeah, like he's got cousins everywhere. Everybody knows his name everywhere he goes. The legend of Dominic Toretto. I mean, these guys are robbing DVD players in Los Angeles, and he's but yeah, he's somehow this global legend. Dude, and yeah, I'm seeing tracks. It's wild. Um, but yeah, so just I mean, we had to do a little Vin minute, a little Vin it. Dude, I can't wait to get on freaking Vin Book later. Yeah, dude. I'll be on Vin Book. The Facebook was designed for racist, all of racist family members and Vin Diesel's inspirational quotes.

SPEAKER_00 16:58

Imagine when he finds YouTube. Have you guys heard of this YouTube thing? And he's just on there like saying quotes. He's gonna go on Twitch. He's gonna chat, chat, Jay chat, hey chat. I don't like to say chat, I want to say family. The new Fast and Furious movie will be out whenever. Like, he's been teasing it for 50 years, dude. He's been teasing it since the first one. Yeah, it's insane, dude. This next one's gonna be incredible. I'm like, dude, alright. I can't do it.

SPEAKER_03 17:29

It's yeah, he's been threatening us with the final installment for many years. I mean, yeah, the fat the the most Fast X, that was just a it's an it's a terrible, it's an awful movie. I implore people to watch it just because it's like it's that bad. It's just amazing how that even like got made. And like hundreds of millions of dollars were poured into this movie, and for it to look like it was made by Chat GBT is just something. I've only seen the clips, like it's not a uh it's so bad, it's bad, and like you know, a lot of these, especially like after five, like a lot of them are you know, they're very cheesy over the top. Yeah, uh, you know, yeah, these aren't the greatest actors in the world in these movies, but like I'm a fan of them, and like I defend certain aspects, even knowing like there's parts that are like you know, after five in particular is when things start like they start becoming like superhumans and like they're just doing impossible things, like defying the laws of gravity and like just cheating death on a regular basis. But like X is I'm like, there's like there's no defense, like, and there's nothing about that one that I'm like, well, this part like Jason Momoa is like like smoking meth the entire film. Like, or like it seems like he is, like, he's it's insane. Like the way whatever the decisions were made, like I and then the big thing was that the director quits like a couple weeks into filming. That's crazy. Oh, because he couldn't handle it. He couldn't deal with Vin Diesel anymore. Like, he's like, I can't fucking he's like, I can't. There's like a there's this video of when because you know, when they're whenever they're filming one of these movies, he's Vin Diesel's all over like on social media, like posting click stories and videos of him on set with everybody, you know, trying to show everybody how great of a time they're having. And there's this Instagram video where that he posted where he's with the the direct the original director, Justin Lynn, on the set of Fast X, and he's like, We're doing something amazing. It's gonna I think it's gonna be the best one yet. What do you what do you think, Justin? And like you the director's like sitting there and like he looks like he's like a prisoner of war, like he's not happy, and like you could see like he realizes like the camera's on him and he's like has to like remind himself how to smile. Like, yeah, he looks defeated, yeah, and like tired, and just and he's like, I can't handle this guy anymore. And I think it was like maybe like a it was like days or maybe a week after that video's release, and it's he's he's announced that he quits. That was his final straw. He's like, I can't keep doing this. Yeah, it he was like, I can't, like um, it was almost it's almost like did he do that? Did Vin do that as like a power move? Like, hey buddy, like I got you on camera. You're on the drawing right? Like you you won't quit, huh? And he was like, No, I fucking quit. Keep the fucking you can take my salary back. I want I'm fucking out. Fuck you, people. Let's not fucking dictate the a Vin Dator. Vin Dator, dude, that's so sick. Yeah, Vin Dater. Um, yeah, dude. So but yeah, so Fast and Furious, the fourth movie, is kind of when Vin becomes a creative force on the on these this franchise, and again it reunites the original cast. Uh the big like drama of the fourth movie as far as the story is that Michelle Rodriguez's character, Letty, dies, the the love of Dom Vin Diesel's life. Um, even though, and I joke about it in the the episode did in the first one, like he treats her like shit the entire first movie.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

Like, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

He's like regularly entertaining other women the entire movie, and I'm like, but yet they have this like undying love and nothing, like nothing can stop it to the point where like he gets in relationships with other women and in as the movies go on, and like even the women are like, I get it, you have to go back to her. Like, don't like don't even I'm not even mad because like you the love you and Letty have, like it's way more powerful than what we had. He's gotta try other flavors of ice cream before he can like really make sure. Yeah, he's just making sure. And his defense, she was she was dead, she was supposed to be dead. She could obviously and you know it's just these movies are like soap operas, like characters come back from the dead. There's um secret siblings that no one knew about, um secret children that no one like it's literally just a fucking soap opera. That's what these movies are. They're they're and hey, and the academy gets wrong, and they they don't nominate them every year that these ones should be nominated, and they're not. Um yeah, so Letty dies in the fourth one. That's like the big driving force of the plot. So the whole that's what brings Brian and Dominic back into each other's lives. There's a lot of GPS and drug uh trafficking involved in that one. Um, but that one had a lot of like CGI, it's like it's really kind of like there's a lot of special effects. I think the the ending car chase in that one's pretty cool, like the driving through the tunnels and all that. Um But, anyways, it ends with Dominic Toreto getting arrested, uh, and he's being sent to prison on a bus, and then the the ending shot. And that movie brings us back, like it brings Han from the top from Tokyo Drift, who dies in Tokyo Drift. But then another thing is all these movies. Because so yeah, Tokyo Drift, I think, is a 2006 or 2007 movie, and Fast and Furious, Fast Five, and Fast and Furious Six all take place before Tokyo Drift. So I guess they all seemingly all three of those movies which came out, you know, eight years, you know, like years and years after Tokyo Drift, all apparently take place in 2000. So it's either they're all they all take place 2006, or Tokyo Drift secretly takes place in like 2015, eight years after it came. Like it's kind of crazy. That's so weird. Because they keep Han in the movies, and then like and then like the as the later movies go on, they keep like um because Han's like with them the entire time, and like every movie Han like like they're like Han's talking about he's gonna go to Tokyo, so we're like, oh yeah, this is it, he's gonna go to Tokyo and die. And then Han's like, we'll get there, just in case I need to be in the next one. Until finally, like, I think and yes, at the end of six, they decide okay, like okay, we can't keep pushing this out. Because like for the last three movies, Han's like, I'll go to Tokyo when I'm ready.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Don't you worry, guys. And the so then he went to Tokyo, and the they're all 2000 cars, like yeah, the cars are from the 2000s, yeah. So it's so dumb, dude. I you know what it's good that I didn't see these because I'm extremely surprised. Yeah, this is this this adds to the lore. Then Han comes back in a later movie, he comes back from the dead. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

Uh that's not the that's not the wildest uh character coming back from death um either, which FastX does does one that's insane. But so after and then so Fast and Furious is a it's a pretty good success. It it makes like over $300 million, which at that time is the highest grossing one in the franchise. That's the fourth one, yeah. The fourth one, and basically proves that people want these characters and this this stuff back. Vin gets like more power based off of the success of it, and they decide that they're gonna pivot away from the street racing culture. Because Four kind of already pivots away from it, but they they they try to like shove in like racings in the fourth one, like even though you're like, does this really make sense? Like, oh yeah, they're gonna the drug lord's gonna hold tryouts for drivers if you want to be like I don't think they do that's not what they do, but that's they have to get racing, they have to incorporate racing in there, and I think with the fifth one, they're like, we just need to do away with it because there's only so many situations where we can have these guys racing. In five, only there's one there's one race in five, and it's short, it's with the the cop cars. Oh, that's right. Yeah, and it's some win or whatever. Yeah, and it's barely like it's barely a race, but it ties into family, dude. Well, everything should, and everything does. Family's like the for it's like the force of like of these movies. Like instead of like the force, it's family. Like family's all around us, it's great and everything. And so they're gonna pivot away from street racing. Now they want to do more action, uh, more of a heist movie in this one, and kind of lean into more action elements and make this like a global blockbuster franchise now. And um Vin decides, okay, let's they just the story warrants, okay, let's get let's make it like Oceanan's 11, but with cars, and so let's bring back all the characters everyone remembers from the first four movies, and so yeah, we get Han, who's uh from Tokyo Drift, uh, Roman and Tez from Two Fast and Furious, who are playing completely different characters. They are nothing like the character in the in so they're both from the second movie. Tyrese is Roman Pierce from Two Fast and Furious, no knew Brian before Brian became a cop, they were troublemakers together. Tyrese is like the like the Vin Diesel in too. Like he's very stoic and there's they're at odds the entire time, and he has to like earn Tyrese's respect back. And he's very like cool in that movie. He's a cool dude. And then from five on, Tyrese is like the butt of every joke. Yeah. He gets shit on a lot. And he's like, he's annoying and talks too much. Like he's yeah, he gets shit on. And Ludacris' character, Tez, owns a gr a garage in Miami. He's and I don't even think he's a mechanic, I just think he owns the. I mean, I think he is a mechanic, but he's like a guy who would like get you like get you like it's like will hook you up with like it's like expensive like speakers in your car. Like he's he's not a master hacker as he's exhibit. Yeah, literally. He pissed. He owns a Pit My Ride shop in Two Fast and Furious, and now he's like a master hacker. Yeah, it's like these like they're not even the same people that they were in the second movie. It's crazy. Um and then they bring back uh Galgadol, who was in the prior one, Wonder Woman, she's in it. Um, and then they even bring back fucking Vince from the first movie. Uh and and so yeah, so it's just it's a pretty much a big reunion. It's like the Avengers before the event. Like it was this, and this is the year before the Avengers too, fast five. But so that's like a big draw, I think, too. Like, but I remember even when I when the trailers came out for this movie, like me even being like, I don't know, like I I think because I was kind of just like over the franchise, I think. I was like, I don't I don't know, like I don't know what they're doing. It looked cool, but I think because the fourth one was like kind of cheesy, and I'm like, these movies are cheesy, like what are we doing? Um, but I did see this movie in theaters, surprisingly. I don't know why I went, but I did. Uh I think family family just drew me there. Did you go with your family? The theater audience, we were a family.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

Dude, I was actually locked into what you were about to say. I was like, I was like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_03 27:37

He's about to say something fucking real right now. Oh damn. We left. Beautiful, yeah. Some things are deeper than blood. Uh movies are so bad, dude.

SPEAKER_00 27:50

I couldn't believe it, man.

SPEAKER_03 27:52

Uh yeah, and and uh and then the biggest, I think the biggest uh casting like addition uh both literally and and like figuratively and physically is the rock. The rock he's added to the franchise because none of the movies up until this point have had like a memorable antagonist, like someone that you're like, oh yeah, that's like a good villain in that movie. And uh um and his character was originally Vin Diesel said, like, we developed it with Tommy Lee Jones in mind. They wanted like an older kind of like cowboy type, uh kind of in line. So Tommy Lee Jones did a movie called The Fugitive in the 90s where he plays like a he's a agent chasing a guy down, and he's like, that's kind of the vibe we wanted. So they thought of him, and then the reason the rock is cast is because Vin goes on Vin Book and starts. I think he asks, he's like asking people like who who do you think I should work with? And he said a lot of folks at that time were coming up and like, Oh, you uh you it would be cool if you worked with The Rock. Uh, because you know at that his star is starting to rise, but he's not quite the the rock, what he what he became. And so, and even the the rock like Dwayne Johnson has like has even come out and said, like, yeah, like honestly, the reason why it was they even looked at me was because of like Vin Diesel's fan interaction on Facebook. Like, he's like, he's like, he like, there's like an interview of him, like, thank you. Like, like, I thank all of Vin's Facebook fans. Like, that's why I got the job. That's crazy. Um, all those 40-year-old moms. Yeah, literally, I think there's he's like, I think there's like a quote where Vin Diesel says, like, thank you, Janice Kelly. Like, you're the reason why I cast so probably some 40-year-old like wine monster. Like, oh, I think it'd be really nice if you worked with that rock boy. He's really good. He's sexy, yeah. Um, but this is like an interesting point. This is this is kind of like the catalyst for what the rock is gonna become. Because uh so this is 2000 this movie comes out 2011, and at this point, the rock is he's kind of he's been in stuff, he's got you know he's kind of doing he did the Disney movie thing for a while, yeah. But he's not like he's not really been like he's famous obviously from wrestling and doing some movies, but he hasn't really like clicked with the audience yet. Uh and this movie I think is what kind of basically puts him on the map is like, oh, this is like he's really good in it. Like, I think this is the last time he really like plays like a character, like he's playing the character of Hobbes, whereas even in the later movies, even though he is Hobbes, he's just the rock. Yeah, like it really gets bad in like in the seventh one, Fury Seven, that's when it's just him. Like, it's when he's like, it's just the rock, he's rocking like his under armor like line, he's drinking Terramana tequila, like you know, like it's like all like you know, it's just he's dude.

SPEAKER_00 30:27

I hated The Rock. I think people are now starting to hate him because he's been shoved down our throats. But I remember back in the day, like I was a fan for like two weeks. I was like, dude, the rock is a shit, like and then he would just he would be working out in his Florida it. It was like a makeshift gym or something, it was an incredible gym. And I was like, dude, yeah, badass. And then the Iron Paradise. The Iron Paradise, yeah. And he had all those chains on and stuff, and it was like, dude, that's sick. And I was like, Yeah, it's pretty dope. And then he continued to just be like, Oh, I I I'm gonna do something with Under Armour, and it was like, Oh, okay, that's I mean, that's cool, everyone's doing it. And then he's like, Oh, the Terramana tequila. I was like, Oh, okay. And then every post felt like a like an ad. Yeah, like he's a walking, talking billboard, and like then I was like, I'm out on this guy, but then that's where like he was becoming like huge, and I was like, I'm already done with this, and people were I was like, dude, I hate the rock, and people would be like, What? Yeah, dude, he's so cool. He's did he's constantly said that he's never had in and out, right? He's been caught like six times being like, never had in and out. Like, what do you gain from that, dude? Like, you're not one of us, man. You're you're an international superstar, and like he's the brand.

SPEAKER_03 31:41

He's a I mean, yeah, he was he's one of the he was like became he was like a like the one of the early, like not early, but there was a wave of like celebrity moguls. Yeah, and he was like kind of one the one of the guys that kind of figured out and utilizing social media to like grow his brand awareness to the point where like when he's like signing deals for new movies, like he's getting a separate check for him to be able to if if the studio wants him to post about the movie on his Instagram, like he's getting paid for it. Like he's basically a uh influencer for the studio now. He's like, look at my following. If you guys want me to post about it, it's gonna be I'm gonna get paid this much for the for my acting, and then I'm gonna get paid this much for basically being a a marketing doing the marketing for you guys.

SPEAKER_00 32:23

Which is so annoying. Because like that Hercules movie, he really pushed it, and he's like, I passed out a couple times and I was trying to break out of these chains, and like did you see it? I did the Hercules movie? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:33

Did you think? I I've only seen it like one and a half times. I remember like I thought it was like it was fine. Like it wasn't like it wasn't like terrible, like, and it's like I it makes sense for him to play Hercules. Yeah, because he's there's like one of the old few guys, at least at that point, like on that star level, that could probably like you could believe that he does that. But like it wasn't like a it's the rock, it's just the rock's Hercules, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

Like, like you're I was constantly like, dude, this is just the rock wearing Hercules. Just give him a wig. Dude, San andre. Uh uh let's keep going.

SPEAKER_03 33:02

Yeah, I'm gonna go to the room so yeah, so like um yeah, I again so I I think I think he's really good in this movie because he's playing like the fun villain of the movie and he's chewing scenery, and I think him and Vin Diesel work really well in this movie together. Uh, and it's a good like cat and mouse the entire time with the two of them. But uh again, he's acting like he's you know, he's got like he's doing the whole cowboy thing. He's kind of doing a little bit of like there's a little bit of twang in there, not really like again, it's in and out depending on what scene he's in, but but he's doing something, and like he's it's very like in line with like 80s action stars, like that's kind of what the vibe they're going for. Um, and I I like him a lot in this movie, and I think in the in the sixth one, he's he's still there's like a a battle of like he's playing the character, but he's also his star is kind of growing. Um because I after this one, he the next movie he does is he does he did a sequel to Journey to the Center of the Earth with like Vanessa Hudgens and something like that. And um, but he starts getting this nickname after Fast Five for people call him Franchise Viagra. You put him in a movie, and the movie makes the more money than the prior one. Fast five, I think Fast and Furious made like 330 or 360, and Fast Five makes 630 million, so it's basically doubles, yeah. And then he's in the second journey of the center earth movie. That movie makes like another hundred million more than the first one did, and then 2013 he's in the second G.I. Joe movie, which makes more than the first one, and then Fast Six makes more than Fast Five, so he's kind of becoming like he's that's kind of the nickname he's getting. Like you put him put up put the rock in a movie and he gained, you know, you get an extra hundred million dollars at the box office.

SPEAKER_00 34:42

That's when he was killing Instagram, like he was killing it at Instagram. People are like, Wow, he's so authentic, right?

SPEAKER_03 34:48

And he's like, you know, he's giving people a peek into his you know, quote unquote life, yeah, which again, it's all everything is manufactured, and it it's you know, it's not really him. Yep. But it's the beginning, he's he's kind of bringing his like wrestling mindset into it, like in cutting promos, like that's kind of what he's doing, but he's just you putting it in Hollywood. Um yeah, so like those few like few years, he's like that's him, his star rising, and then 20 yeah, 2014's Hercules, which was I think kind of a miss. It didn't really, I don't think I don't think it did that well either, like money-wise. Yeah, and then 2015 he does Fury Fury 7 comes out, which makes a billion dollars. Um, and at that point, this is that's like where the franchise gets like cemented, like this is a global franchise, we're gonna be making these, you know, at least that's was a thought at the time. And then he he has San Andreas, which again forgettable blockbuster, but it made 500 million dollars. And that's like him leading his own, like it's like a movie built around him. Like they get a script, they rework it to make it so he can be in it, and they he's the star, producer, and all this, and now he's he becomes what he becomes, and for the next literally from that's 2015 for 10 years, he's making bullshit. Yeah. Where he's only working with directors that he can boss around and will you know fit the movie to his what he needs. He's producing it, as he can never lose. Yeah, his underarmor is he's wearing under his under armor line, it's his tequila, his whatever brand deal he has at that time, it's make it's in the movie somehow, and he's just playing himself, he's not doing a character. Um, I'd argue the only things that he does in that 10-year period that I that I think he works okay in is the Jumanji movies because he's it's more comedic and he's kind of making fun of himself a little bit, and also it's an ensemble, it's not all on his shoulders. He's got Kevin Hart and Jack Black, and it it works, but even then it's like they're still kind of there's blockbuster, like shtick movies, uh you know, four quadrant just happy meals basically. Like you know, I enjoy those movies, but it's like they're not I'm not like oh, you know what movie, like it doesn't like pierce my soul. They're fun, yeah. It's fun, but if you watch then you put that you end it and then you don't you forget about it, yeah. Um and it wasn't until last year when he does that the smashing machine where he finally uh and he he admitted even that like he basically got lost in the sauce, like he got high on his own supply for the last for the last decade. He's just been uh eating his own bullshit and and selling it to everybody that is if it's it's it's like this is great. This next movie's gonna be the B one it's just the same bullshit that it always has been.

SPEAKER_00 37:23

Uh dude, that press run for San Andreas and I'll never forget. He was all over that's when I was still kind of I was like following him and like watching his stuff, and I was just like, dude, it's really not that huge. Like it's not that he would make these like like this is a it was almost like he was saying, like, I'm a global phenomenon, this is gonna be incredible, it's gonna be life-changing, it's gonna change the world. Yeah, literally, they're him and Vienna Diesel, I think that's why they don't get along, is because they're literally like mirror images of each other.

SPEAKER_03 37:51

Yeah, I mean they they again Fury 7 is the last time and I think that that's like 2015, 2014 is when their relationship deteriorates, basically. They're no longer no longer because the the whole big drama of the eighth movie is they don't like each other, they refuse to film scenes together, so the whole movie is reworked to uh to make sure that they're never on set at the same time. Like if you watch the eighth movie, they're never in a scene together. The movie is edited, like whenever the ki their characters are supposed to be like in the same vicinity of each other, like it's edited. It's over edited over the shoulder. You can tell like it's just it's a double or a stand-in, or they're just like it's like CG'd in, like, because they they were at each other's throats, like they were uh brutal. Because Vin Diesel, as much as I love him, and we love him, and the people love him, he is a menace on set, like drives directors in the studios and the cast like crazy. And even when the cast talks about him, it's always love. They're always we love Vin. Vin love, you know, and and I get it, like someone like Tyrese or Ludacris, like they're not really like making the music, they like they're not really big in the music scene anymore. It's kind of the only paycheck, yeah. They don't necessarily make great art regularly, like yeah, and again, like that that's this is their that's their bread. Like, this is how they get feed their families, these these movies, to the point where like Tyrese had like a mental breakdown because uh at the rock because he delayed like one of the movies so he can do a spin-off movie.

SPEAKER_00 39:16

Like, like like uh dude, Tyrese, man. Whenever someone writes my Shayla, I'm like, do you understand where this is from? Like this man was having he was going through a custody, he's going through a crazy custody battle, he's about to lose his daughter, and he's sitting there. What more do you want from me? That was his best acting.

SPEAKER_03 39:37

That was yeah, that was believable. Yeah, yeah. If you Tyrese, if you've ever seen there's he did a he's he made a audition tape for Django and Chain because he wanted that role that Jamie Foxx got. Boy, you can find it online. He like made like where he's like in like the get up and he's like clearly like on like probably like the like some hill on his house that like just has he hadn't had the the landscapers not take care of. I'm going all in. And like he's like walking and he's all he's like sweaty and like shirtless and like it's hilarious. Like, I I implore you guys to watch it. Like he apparently he sent that to Tarantino was like, I I should be and I Tarantino's like, I think we're good.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

What is this? What the hell is this? What the fuck did you just send me?

SPEAKER_03 40:21

Fucking Tarantino. That's a whole other fucking podcast. That guy's on my that guy's on my shit list. He's been on my shit list for like two years. Fucking he needs to shut up and just make a movie. That's it. Stop talking. All you fucking actors just stop talking, just fucking make shit and just stop talking. Dance monkey dance, dude.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

Like, I don't want to be a dick, but like you're not. I think Instagram is has ruined. We haven't even gotten into the what are we at like an hour probably, not even talking about the movie, but the sidetrack, another sidetrack. I think social media has turned these people into like holier than thou. Look how relatable I am. Like, I remember during COVID when they did that.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

Imagine all that was horrible.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

Didn't that well that's that's what cured COVID, isn't it? They were like it's saved, it saved the world, man. Um, and all these people, and I think we kind of found out during COVID, like, oh, these people are full of shit, they don't care about us. No, this is just an like they're running ads and they're acting like normal people, and they've gotten this big sense of like importance. And I I think I'm just we're sick of it.

SPEAKER_03 41:23

Like, we're I it's just well, I think even now that's why you see a shift with a lot of these younger actors, like main like most of the cast of Euphoria, minus Sydney Sweeney, like like Zendaya, Tom Holland, like those like Austin Butler were like they're not really online. Yep, you're you're not getting they're not giving people much about their personal life. All like the new like um Jacob Alordy, Jacob Alordy, uh Paul Mescall, like Joseph, like all those the young like the Rat Boys, I think they call them for a while. But like all these young up all the young hot stars, whoever was whoever was basically anybody that was in the cast of Dune, like last year. Like if you're in Dune or Euphoria, like they're like you're like that's like the A-less town. But like they're they're they're very close off now. They don't really give much about anything, and like Which is great. I think that's the shift now. It's like people don't and that like keeps because there's like a a level of like mystery there. Like you don't like like The Rock and Kevin Hart, like we're f you we're like up your ass, like like we're over it. And like and people you you get people get tired of it, and then if and then if you regularly produce shitty movies, like then people are definitely gonna be tired or they don't want to fucking watch your Instagram live where you're just in your mansion, you know, having a tough time having to stay home, you know, thinking about all you guys. I hurt my back in my private gym next door, like oh I hurt my back getting socks on the other day. Like, I've been dealing with that. Dude, thoughts and prayers, man. Thanks. Thoughts and prayers. Thanks, dude. They should make an imagine video for me. I need those actions to make it.

SPEAKER_00 42:47

With everyone from Fast and Furious. Yeah, please, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 42:50

Yeah, that would be like if yeah, that would be my dream. That'd be my make-a-wish. Dude, we gotta get into this movie. Let's get into this movie. I know, dude. We just bullshit. We just lame backgrounds, but it's these movies, the plot are not that intricate, right? It doesn't, they don't necessarily warrant a scene-by-sene breakdown. Nah, they don't really do. But anyways, so yeah, so the rock, big addition to the franchise, and uh, I think is what kind of gives the movie the juice it needs to like be because like the villain of this movie is forgettable, just some dude. It's just like generic like drug lord or villain, like not there's nothing memorable about him.

SPEAKER_00 43:22

He's all he almost reminds me of like a politician. Yeah. I was kind of this movie confused me a little bit because halfway I was like, what are the what are they doing? What is the like you know? What is he doing? Who is this guy? Why are the Fast and Furious people, the Fast and Furious Avengers, why are they messing with this guy's drugs? Like Yeah, man, this is kind of confusing.

SPEAKER_03 43:43

Yeah, I mean the the these the scripts are in that's it's probably generous to call them scripts with what they're using, but uh yeah, like the I think the general plot is so f uh after so they they've uh Mia and and Brian and a couple of uh and their their uh fast family members break Donald. Dominic Toretto out of the the prison transport. Yeah. Which is a really cool like crash scene. We're like, and again, something I want to highlight too is this movie does a lot of practical stunts and effects. Like so much of it that the shit they do in this is real. Like they're they're crashing cars, they flip that bus. They were like the vault scene at the end is real. Like mostly real. Like I think there's like I mean, there's obviously CG augmentation on it, but like they put basically they like like crane that vault on on top of a car, and somebody's like driving it as they're sick. That's like in like all the destruction is like that's like mostly real destruction. Like damn yeah, even the stuff on like the train, like like when they rob the train earlier in the movie, like that's all practical. Like when they're getting the cars like out of the out, and then when the car crashed into the train, that's all practical. That's crazy. So like they like, and I think because they're the criticism they got from the prior movie about like how like they're like in all these CG backgrounds and the six CG cars. So the director just on them was like, Well, I wanted to do as much on location physically, like in camera as we can. Like, I don't let's move away, like we'll you know, we'll add, we'll we'll fix stuff in post that we need to, but I want to like let's let's show as possible. And I think that's kind of like the vibe of this movie is very like again, very like 80s macho like throwback type of like action movie. Um, and then the later movies get you know incredibly much like a lot more CG in those movies. Um but yeah, so they've they've a they break them out of prison, and now they're on the run, uh, and they wind up in Brazil and they reunite with Vince from the first movie, who's now just as big and has a big he's a big guy now, beard. Uh and he's just a fat dude.

SPEAKER_00 45:45

I didn't even recognize him. I was like, oh yeah. At the end, I was like, wait, who was that guy? And I looked at it, I was like, oh he's the guy who hated Brian in the first movie. Yeah, alright.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

Buster. Um and Vince is you know, like he's been on the run as well because after the events of the first movie where Brian kind of blew all their shit up, and he he guessed so the the insight is they leave he gets him involved in a job where they're gonna rob some cars off of a train, and then Brian discovers the cars are have been tagged by the DEA or some some the government basically, some sort of law enforcement agency, and then it there's also to add on top of that, the guys that hired them for the job to rob the vehicles are planning to betray them, and and when they catch on to it, they kill the guys, but one of the one of them manages to kill a couple of the the government agents, which that was brutal. I didn't expect that.

SPEAKER_00 46:41

It's PG 13 movie, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. PG 13.

SPEAKER_03 46:44

He just slaughtered them. Yeah, and so that kind of and then with that happening, now they they know one that the people that hired them fucked him over, and now there's dead law enforcement agents that is really gonna put the heat on on this. And so they escape that, and then now they're they're they want revenge basically because of the Reyes, the the guy who kind of orchestrated all this, set them up and double crossed them, so they want to get back at him, and they said we're we're gonna rob him, uh basically. That's like the whole gist of it, and then they they need help, so they call in the Avengers, yeah, Tyrese, Ludacre, yeah. So they call in all every character from the prior four movies gets called in. Oh, those dolly shots going straight into their faces. Yeah, I was like, Oh, um Galgado.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

Yeah, Galgado's here, yeah. Which also like when you it's cool having grown up in this era because we're millennials, so we saw the internet kind of take its form that it is now, and how big these stars were. Like, Galgado is like, dude, she was sexy, she was like the it girl, and then all this like Palestine Israel started stuff started happening, and COVID, where she was the one she was like the first one.

SPEAKER_03 47:55

I think she's the one who like orchestrated that basically.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

She started that imagine time. People were like, dude, Galgado sucks. And like you go on her Instagram now, because I was like, I haven't heard much from her. Let's see what's up. All her comments are turned off. Yeah, um there's also like I don't know if you caught on to the when the Asian guy's talking to her. This is like later in the movie, and he's like, uh, the type of gun you have, like, how long have she like, how long have you been in the military? She's like, What? How do you know? And he's like, Oh, you had this gun, that straight massad.

SPEAKER_03 48:24

I was like, Oh, dude. Yeah, well, and she was in the military, yeah, yeah. Uh yeah, she's definitely a similar kind of thing where I I think her backlash was a lot more severe than like the rocks or even Van Diesel's ever had, but like, yeah, like she's no longer like the the a beloved star you as she was. Like one, like she kind of peeked at Wonder Woman, and then that was kind of the the beginning of like the end of her decline. Like that's kind of the start of her decline there.

SPEAKER_00 48:51

Yeah, um, but seeing how like she's like the badass, like yeah, it's it's wild. It's like a little history, like a walk through history, right?

SPEAKER_03 48:59

Yeah, and like you're we're we're it's like a strange, like just seeing where everybody's at. And again, like for most most of the actors in this movie, this is kind of all they have for the remainder of the career. Like Tyrese acts and stuff, but like most of the movies he was in, like, go straight to like streaming or VHS at this point. Yeah, Ludacris basically only does like same like Ludacris will do like something else like in between these, but nothing is as big as as these movies are. Yeah. Uh as and it's the same for most of the cast at that point. Like Vin Diesel basically only does these movies exclusively. He basically does these movies to fund whatever weird passion project movie he wants to do. Which and it's like you think like when act like you know, like someone like Mark Ruffalo who does like the Marvel movies, he'll then he'll do one of those, get his paycheck, and then go do like a small drama that he's like passionate about. Vin Diesel does these movies and then goes and does some weird like fantasy roleplay bullshit movie like The Last Witch Hunter or like Bloodshot. Like movies are like this is the shit you want to go do in the side, like terrible weird guy. Yeah, he's yeah, he's like super into Dungeons and Dragons. Like he's such a he's just uh insane dude. Like uh there's like just amazing stories. Like I've listened to other podcasts where they talk about these movies and like the stories you hear about him, like and like people that have like been in the same room with him, like the way he like he walks like as if he knows he walks around like he's a rock star. Like he's like he'll walk around with like a he'll show up to like a party with like a leather vest but like nothing on underneath and like a big like fur like scarf and just like like just crate, like never takes the sunglasses off, like no matter where he's at.

SPEAKER_00 50:30

Like don't let him know the next step, dude.

SPEAKER_03 50:33

Yeah, um yeah, so so they they assemble their the crew and this one in particular, like it the whole family meme efication of the movie kind of it really kind of gets cemented and it begins in this one. I think if it becomes the full meme doesn't take effect until the seventh movie, um, but this is like where it begins, and this is the whole stuff, like the whole coronas, tank tops, Jesus Peace, like uh what's it called?

SPEAKER_00 51:02

Dansa the Danza Caduro, that one song. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:07

That was and that was that was that song. I think it was made for this movie. I don't know if it was made for the movie, but it was that was like the the the big single of like the whole like on the soundtrack.

SPEAKER_00 51:15

Because uh the Don Omar is one of the guys, yeah, which also I was like, this guy looks familiar. Is that Don Omar? And then I looked it up after, I was like, dude, it is.

SPEAKER_03 51:24

Yeah, and then with the other guys, uh he's a singer too. I forgot what his name is. I don't know what his name is. Yeah, but they're both they're both musicians. That's so funny. Uh yeah, and so now they're involved in the in the plan to steal, they're gonna rob Rey as his money. So they they go to one of his stash houses and like with the intention of stealing, but they burn the money, basically so they know so that we he'll move all the money to one location and they can steal all of it. And and and at the same time, because of the dead agents, the DEA has sent in their number one guy, Agent Hobbs, Agent Luke Hobbs. Who and I remember when the trailer came out, like this scene, his intro scene where he's walking off the plane and like get your funderwear on. And yeah, uh, but the I remember the line of dialogue that I think made a lot of people were like, This is fucking stupid. Like, was when he's like, and above all else, never ever let them get in their cars. And everybody was like, That like that is not a good line. Like, nobody would say that. Like, nobody would say that. That's so bad. It's and I love how like they're they get off the plane, like his team just comes out like armed with their guns. I'm like, why are their guns out? Like, were they out the entire plane ride? Like, they should they should be probably locked away somewhere. Like, that was a long flight to get to Brazil. Like, they're just locked and loaded as they walk out. Like, yeah, but it's a really cheesy introduction of him, but it it it basically sets you up completely of who this character is gonna be the entire movie. He's just true, he chews scenery, he's saying these, you know, cheesy, he's like he's it's like he's basically like this not to the same level, but like I think people thought that what he was gonna what the rock was gonna be was like the next Schwarzenegger or Stallone, and he didn't really do that, um, because he was more you know focused on protecting a brand, whereas like Stallone and Schwarzenegger just like did 80s macho shit, like and uh the rock just is just he's just too controlled, and yeah, everything is so calculated. But but in this movie, he's very much drawing towards like that 80s kind of action star vibe, and that's what the kind of what the character is. And um yeah, I mean the I think the look's great, like the goatee, like it all works so well for him, and like I'm like, I wish he would have like again stayed in that line, whereas, but then by the time seven comes, it's just he just wakes up in the morning and and he's just going on. I'm on set. But yeah, so he's introduced and he's gonna be chasing these guys down. He's got his own team of people whose names we'll never learn, and um just a bunch of buff dudes with the tightest, the tightest shirts.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

Tightest shirts, dude.

SPEAKER_03 53:48

That was one of the notes I wrote down.

SPEAKER_00 53:50

I was like, why is everyone's shirt? Or they wore like a henley right with a button up, and then it's like open, yeah, and then the the sleeves are all jacked up.

SPEAKER_03 53:59

Gotta get the arm the biceps like just tight. It has to be tight around the biceps. I love and I love because in the first movie Vin Diesel's like jacked. He's slim, toned, jacked, and uh in four, he looks good, he's younger. Five, the age is showing, yeah, and the tank tops are loose, looser. I love how like yeah, it's always like the tanks that like cover, like go like the shoulders, like just like no chance of seeing like the man boob, you know. Like but he's still got big arms, like he's big arms. Like he only works out chest and arms. Like that's all he does.

SPEAKER_00 54:34

That's all he does. And he just He's definitely that guy at the gym that goes up to you at uh you're like in the um in the sauna, and he's just like in there stretching. He's like, there's that meme where he's like, Don't get old, don't get old. Yeah, he's definitely that guy.

SPEAKER_03 54:49

There's this dude uh that I've seen uh so years and years ago, I went to I went to this one gym that we uh my wife and I would go to, and there was this guy we'd see there. I would call him the turtle because he was just like built like a candy corn, like okay, just huge up top, and then it just as you the lower his body goes, like the the slimmer it is like this dude's legs were like toothpicks, but like everything. Like he had like he built like the rock on the top half, but then just like the slightest skinniest legs in the world, and like then I went to this gym I go to now. The gym I go to now, I ran into him again, and I'm like still the same build, like just he put goatee. He wears like he wears glasses.

SPEAKER_00 55:24

Yep, I know exactly who you're talking about, dude. And he's always red for some reason, right?

SPEAKER_03 55:28

And like I've and like I never see him working out, he's always just walking around like yep, but like I've never seen him do anything. I know exactly who you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 55:38

We'll talk off this because I wanna he's a local guy, yeah. He's a local guy, sure.

SPEAKER_03 55:42

He's a local guy. Uh I always thought he's built like a candy corn. Yeah, he's like he's like an upside down triangle. Super nice guy. Yeah, he seems like he's nice. Yeah, uh, I'm just an I just I'm an asshole. He's probably going through something. He probably has a condition. He can't get his his legs can't get bigger no matter how he tries. But but like, you know, but like the Van Diesel's like, yeah, he's in the gym, like just doing just doing tries and buys, and and that's it. Uh and and um I don't know, his his body's great. Um and then as the movies go on, like he's just like by the time the ninth and tenth one come out, like he's just like he's got the double, like he's just a fat guy, he's a chubby dude. Like it's like that line from uh uh I remember I think it's Infinity War when Rocket tells star Chris Pratt like you're you're one sandwich away from being a fat ass. Like that's Vin Diesel basically like more corona, buddy. Like in your true uh so now that they and I so yeah, so the the Rock's Hobbs characters hunting them down uh for the killing of the agents that they're they're now blamed for, and then Vin Diesel and his crew are are planning a heist, and they need uh you know they across various like everyone has everyone has their own special skill, their own you know, uh like we said Ludacris Tej is the hacker for some reason. He went from installing brake pads to hack it into mainframes, mainframes, and uh Galgado's character, Giselle, is like she's you know, I guess she's the badass, the fighter, and then uh uh Tyrese's character, Roman, is the con man, I guess, is what his skill is. Although he's not very he doesn't do any good at all. Like he does nothing, he does not do any sort of conning. Like uh he really brings nothing to the table. He brings nothing to the table other than just I just need to be the guy that people make fun of. Yep. Uh and that's all it is the entire movie is him getting shit on the entire movie. Uh and that's the rest of the franchise, like to the point where it becomes a plot point in the eighth movie, where like because like because the audience is like this dude, he's just in there to be like annoying. Like he's the annoying guy on in every movie on the team. And then in the eighth movie, there's like a bit about how all of the characters on the Fast Family team are like on the FBI's like most wanted list or most dangerous list or what something like that, and like Tyrese is like number like 11, like he's on the top 10. Like, so that's like his bit. The entire movie is like, Why the fuck am I number 11? And like to the point where like he like he like has like an action sequence, and like he's like he's like number 11 my hat. Like it's like the recurring bit, like I'm a badass, like I belong here. Uh but like yeah, he's he brings nothing to the table the entire movie, other than just to just to run his mouth, yeah. Um and so as so they're planning the heist, and uh I the the the scene that I I like a lot too is when the they first kind of collide the loot uh Hobbes and Dominus crew when they're running on like the top of like the favela buildings, like running on like jumping from rooftop to roof to rooftop, and like there's like that great like action hero shot where like Vin jumps off the roof and then the rock like busts through the wall like behind him. Like, dude, that's so bad. I'm like this so badass. But um, but again, it's it's I think this movie and this movie's regularly regarded as like the best of the franchise. Like, this is it was fun. They got it right, it was fun to watch. Um, and then it just kind of gets silly. But this movie kind of sets the tone for what the movies, at least for the next few, become uh for sure, as far as like leaning more into the action and and you know, then they start to find the laws of just gravity and everything, life, really. Um yeah, because this one, I mean, obviously there's some like it's over the top, but it's it's more or less grounded as far as like what they're able to do as people. Or any of the rules of what they're like, does it make sense for like what would a what would what like would America send someone like Hobbes and he's able to do what he's doing like without repercussion? Like, no, it's that's not how that works.

SPEAKER_00 59:29

That was the other thing. I was like, this guy showed up to a foreign country and he could just do whatever he wants. Yeah, that's probably not how that works. Uh you know, I like my dessert first. Oh, that was the worst. I have I have good news, I have bad news. And Hobbes goes, You know, I like my dessert first. I was like, dude. I can't believe I'm watching this right now. It was amazing.

SPEAKER_03 59:49

Amazing, even more amazing that you thought you had seen it and you never seen this movie.

SPEAKER_00 59:53

And up to the first 10 minutes, I was like, Yeah, maybe I remember it differently. And then I was like, wait, I've never seen this movie. But you said it yourself. It's kind of similar. The beginning is it's literally the same, like the drone shot. I guess back then it was helicopters, but like the the little drone shot coming in and cars around it.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:11

Yeah, it opens very uh similarly. And then obviously, obviously it it starts right where the fourth one ends, so you're like, it kind of you're like, Yeah, I saw this. Yeah, so and and now they're they're they just they find out who he is. Uh yeah, like I think Brian's explanation of him is like of Hobbes is like, oh, he's old testament, like blood, bullets, wrath of God. Like uh so just again the great, like, you know, and it's like old school like action movie shit, like you have to have a scene where you describe like how badass this person is. And that's they they set that up well with with his character. And um so they've got this guy on their ass, and then they discover that Reyes keeps all of his money inside of a police station. Uh so now their their plan is to rob a police station. And yeah, I mean there's just like various like heist things they need to do, like they need to get cars that are fast enough to there's like some cameras that they need to beat.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:06

You uh skipped over when they I wrote this this quote down because it's so incredible. Let's get it. Um when they see all the cars going into the police station, and Tyree says, This just went from mission impossible to mission freaking insanity. Yeah. My wife was sitting there watching, she goes, Dude, are you fucking serious? I was like, This is gold.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:34

The dialogue. Yeah, I mean, again, these the writing of these movies is it's so bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:38

It's so bad. It's never good. But that one will wake you up. Like if you're starting to fall asleep, he says that, you're like, oh man, we're back in. Yeah, I'm locked in now. What's going on?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:46

What's going on? That's funny. So uh because I know I remember last time you came out, you said your wife likes to watch, you call them TikToks or whatever, or cocoa melon, right? Coco Melon loves coconut. So what did she think about the movie? Did she check out?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:59

Uh yeah, she fell asleep. Now that I think about it, she we had a we had an early morning. She went to the gym, and then she was like, Yeah, I just started nodding off. But she loves like I give her shit too because I'm like, well, you you wouldn't like this movie because it doesn't have it like explosions. She's like, dude, that's not that's not all I watch. And like we're watching Transformers. I put Transformers on the other day, and she's glued. I was like, Oh, you love this because Michael Bay. But yeah, this one she was like, This is yeah, it's a lot, it's a very lot of masculine energy.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:29

Yeah, dude. Like it's very baby oil and testing you just baby oil. These men are these are the these are this the slip the slippery men, like dude. They're always sweaty, dude. The skin is moist the entire time.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:48

Uh oh man.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:49

Yeah, so again, just just various heist things they need to do. They need to find a car that can that can beat the camera, I guess. Uh, and then they decide that they're gonna they're just gonna steal, they steal cop cars, that'll be their their thing. Um we have to get a handprint, Ray's his hand print because the safe he has, he it requires a hand print, so Galgodot manages to get it by just having him, you know, casually slap, you know, smack her ass. Yep. And then there's the recurring joke of Tyrese and Ludacris. So did he smack that ass or did he grab that ass? The entire entire movie, it's like the and then they um and then the other big plot point is now Mia's character, uh Jordana Brewster Dom's sister, is pregnant with Brian's. That's like the big reveal. The family just got bigger. Yeah, she can't have a beer. Why not? Nah, she's good, man. She's good. Yeah, it was. And then they bring up, oh, so did he smack that ass? Did he grab that ass? Like so stupid. But like, guys, it's not it's like if stop trying to make fetch happen.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:47

Dude, yes, there's so many things where you're like, come on, guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:50

Yeah, these movies are not. I would say the humor in them is pretty terrible, like throughout the remainder, and it gets worse. Yeah. Uh like, especially like because it's and it kind of all falls on Roman, Tyrese's character, and like he just comes off as annoying. And like the funny aspect of these movies is not the humor, it's the ridiculous shit that they're doing. That's what's funny. Yep. I don't think they've Vin Diesel doesn't I don't always think think he doesn't comprehend that he thinks like people are like they love it in love with what these guys are saying. Like, no, we're laughing because you guys are literally in space. Like you guys lost the plot.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:22

And I think that is also a testament to why these movies are quote unquote good, is because we're all in on the joke. Yeah, and they're not.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:30

He's not. He's not like he again, it's it's like the the VIN book or the post. Like, it's so earnest. Like he means it. Like he like and he makes these movies with the like I'm making art here, yep, and audiences they they make money and the audiences love it, and they they treat them all like because they're like, Yeah, like this is amazing, because this is ridiculous. Like, it's just dumb entertainment. But he's like, No, no, no, look at the numbers, look at the fans. It's global, and it is a global franchise, and money talks, but it's like yeah, like you said, everybody's in on the joke but him.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:05

Even his cast members, like they're just yeah, it's no, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:09

It's so funny when you want like it. Like, I remember there was like a big uh for the ninth movie. They did they held like he had like a concert with like several like Cardi B, like big artists like came out and performed to premiere the trailer for the ninth movie. The trailer. You you people sat through like several hours of a concert of big artists. But the big but the reason they were there was to watch the F9 trailer. Just trailer. An hour or an hour, a minute long yeah, like a trailer. Yeah. Was it a teaser or a trailer? It was a it was the it's the teaser, but it's like a three and a half minute long teaser. Oh, okay. And it's a it's an amazing teaser. I actually what I watched it the other day, like a couple I think it was before I recorded the Tokyo Drift episode. Yeah. Um, and I was like just getting back in the vibe, you know, getting my family juice back in. And um I watched the For the ninth movie. And I don't know why, but like I got super nostalgic about it. Like I low-key kind of like teared up. Because the trailer like reveals when it reveals that Han when Han comes back. And I think that was like, dude, I was like, I fucking love Han, man. I'm so glad he's like, I was just like, That's for the ninth one you said? The ninth one. Damn. F9, baby. F9, yeah. F9 the fast saga is the title. Another great thing about this franchise is they can't keep a naming scheme to save their lives.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:24

Dude, it's not like Fast and the Furious. Uh, like literally, Tokyo Drift. Yeah. Or they'll add the thing at the end. Like, it's always some other fast X. Furious seven. Dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:35

Fate of the Furious. That was that was the one where I was like, you guys are just you guys, you like you guys have to be in on the joke. You have to be. And then you ask like Vin about it, and he's like, every every title just means it just it comes from the soul of the movie, and it's the you know, the engine of the car. I'm a living car. Like he thinks that it what he's doing is cool. Again, it's like it just he just doesn't compute that like people think it's a joke. Um definitely has something going on. And and now that they're kind of on the trail of back to the movie, I guess we should get back to the movie example. Um I mean, I think again, there's not a lot of like deep plot happening. I think the the the next kind of big crucial scene is is they know like they do they go out to get air because they they need to be aware of where Hobbes is. So they go out in public and on purpose to get caught on all the C CCT T TV cameras so that they get a hit. Hobbs and his crew show up, and this is the big like face-off between The Rock and Vin Diesel, and it's the this is Brazil. Gotta do the accent, gotta do the accent. I'm like, where did this accent come from? Brutal, dude. Uh and and it this it's a ruse so that I think ludicrous can put a tracker on their vehicle so they're able to see where they're at at all times. So that works for a bit, gets them to pretty much close to being prepared for the heist, uh and then things take a turn when uh well, yeah, everything they're they're celebrating and they're about to get ready for to do the heist, and then Hobbes discovers that uh they've he found the tracker, they think they're safe, and then yeah, they're then it's the big brawl between Hobbs and Dom, which is a fucking great fight. Like, like it's been like leading up, like they like they've kind of been on a collision course, you've been waiting for it, like the two biggest dudes in the movie, like they're gonna have to go come to blows at some point, and it's a fucking it's a great fight, and it's obvious like they're like destroying like drywall like they're the Avengers, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:32

Literally the Avengers.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:33

It's like the Hulk and Thor fighting is basically what it is. Like it's it's over the top, but like it's but they make it so it's done so seriously. Yep, and like it's like a pretty brutal fight. It's like super visceral, like they're beating the shit out of each other. Yeah, the wrench. Yeah, there's like one scene where like the rock, I think, lifts up Vin Diesel, like in his head, like goes through like the top of like like the like the top of the door. I'm like, that would have killed you. Like you would they're flying through window, like it's insane. And like, but everyone's just watching, yeah. Everyone's just like no one, yeah. No one. I mean, I'm not gonna go. I'm like, I'm not gonna back my friend up. But if he's in a fight like that, I'm like, you know what, dude? Figure it out. Yeah, either win or don't. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, uh, and it culminates, yeah, where Vin is he Dom's getting overpowered. Because it's a pretty evil equal fight. Like they're both, they both kind of have the upper hand, and then The Rock gets the upper hand at the end, but then of course Dominic wins because of the through the power of family, because he sees his sister in peril, and that's right. He picks up the ranch, which is like a callback to the whole what you know the thing in the first movie where he got that's what he did went to prison for was beating somebody with a ranch. Uh and he's about to beat him, and then his sister screams his name, and that the power of family brings him back to reality, and uh so he wins the fight, quote unquote, and they're arrested. And as they're being transported to, I'm assuming back to the plane, or who knows where they probably or honestly with the way honestly with the way that the rocks, his character and his team act, they're probably just gonna go assassinate them like in a backlot or something. Like these guys, the law, they're above the law. Like the law doesn't apply to these dudes. He's just gonna line them up. Firing squad. Uh and then en route to wherever it is they're going, they get ambushed by Reyes' men. And uh Dom loses, or not Dom Hobbs loses the and his entire team in a pretty fucked up way. The one dude's like lame in the car, just they just drop grenades. Cool grenades.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:30

It's yeah, it's pretty good. And he watches this whole thing happen from the from the ground. He just looks over it. Yeah, clink. Yeah. I expected uh Vin Diesel to come up and just like throw the grenade somewhere and have some sort of like, dude, the guy just blew up. No, they all died.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:44

Like, damn. We got we gotta we have there's too many cast members on the side. We need we need to start too many buff guys in one getting rid of these guys. Uh yeah, because that yeah, he's recovering the rock's recovering from like an RPG blast. So he's like, he can't move, so he's we're watching his entire team get slaughtered around him. Uh and you know, rest in peace to whatever their names were. It's just I think in the cast list, it's literally just muscle guy one, muscle guy two, tight tight shirt, Henley shirt, tight shirt man, uh buff mohawk guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:14

Dude, yeah, slow motion just getting slaughtered.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:16

Yeah, just it's crazy like the job description. Like, I wonder what the job description is for to work on his team because they're badass soldiers, apparently, they handle heavy, like you know, heavy weaponry, and then in one scene, Hobbes is like making them like take apart a car. Yeah, so like they're also mechanics, they can just like build the car from scratch, apparently.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:37

But they can't uh deduce as I don't know if that's the word I'm looking for, but they can't find the root of the problem, yeah. Because Hobbes will with one touch of a button and then think of they took they took the chip, and the guy's like, oh it's a shame.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:53

It's a shame what they did with classic because it was like, yeah, he's yeah, he finds the chip. Yeah, that that's like another like of the MacGuffin, some chip. Oh yeah, because that's that's how they find about the money, because it's like uh it's on the GPS, yeah. They don't the but he's not it's it's like the the the weight amount, how much the m how much it weighs is how much he's like uh I forgot what Brian Brian calls it because he's he's a cop, so he's not drugs, it's money. Yeah, they weigh their money. Um it's a dealer cut dealer, whatever he calls it. But yeah, that's how they discover how much money it's like a hundred million dollars that they're gonna rob and split amongst. Yeah, one of the lines that's like out to me was a bit problematic was when they just when they because uh when they're setting the plan together and uh Roman Tyrese is like, I'm out, fuck this, like this is personal, I don't do personal. Yeah, and then Dominant Vin's like, okay, so a hundred million dollars, and then he's like, wait, what? And then he's like, 100 million dollars, like that's a that's a lot of vaginal activity. I'm like, what does that mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:50

So vulgar.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:51

I'm like, and then they just move on.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:54

Yeah, like what do you what do you mean by that, dude? Like you're just like so you're gonna like and again, no this is not a this is not a knock at sex workers, but I'm like, does that mean you're just that you're just gonna spend it all on hookers or hookers? Like, I mean, good good work if you can get it, I guess. Louise. Oh, but I I saw that I'm like, wow, that's that's that's a that's a line for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:14

I it didn't register until you just said it right now. I was like, oh shit, he does say that. Vaginal activity.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:21

Good for you, buddy. And uh yeah, you know, and then through all this the characters like uh Han and Giselle, Gogodo's character are like falling in love with each other. There's an interest. Um again, he's hinting at going to Tokyo the entire movie, which which will not happen for two more movies. Yeah, I'll be there. I'm gonna go. We have to go. I have to go to Tokyo because with these movies, the timeline has to line up at some point. I'm dead. I died two movies ago, but that's so crazy. Yeah, it's it's amazing. It makes no sense, it makes no sense at all whatsoever. Uh and yeah, so after so then uh yeah, then so so Dom or Hobbes' team gets slaughtered, and then at the remaining kind of raises, remaining men are closing in on Hobbes, and looks like he's about to get bite the bullet, and then in between this, or as this is happening in the armored vehicle that all of the Fast family is locked in, um they're asking Elena, she's so she's a local cop that Hobbs is like asked for um for to be a translator, I guess. Uh, she really doesn't bring anything to the table, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:24

He's also so sexist towards her, like he's always like, Stay behind, stay here. Yeah, don't do this, don't do that. Like, why is she even here?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:30

Yeah, she has a she's a trained officer, she has a gun, like she can do it. Uh and they're they're telling her to let them cut them loose so they can go out and help. They're gonna go help, I guess. Uh, and I love how like it's like Vince and Brian are like yelling at her, like, let us lose, and then like it just takes Dominic Treadle to give her like one like look, and then they're and then yeah, and then like of course, like the Hail Mary, they show up and they start firing on all of the all of the the killers, and then um we have to get the fucking Dom helping Hobbes up and like just flexing the forearms as hard as they can, like the hands, yeah. Like it's like it's so it's fucking like yeah, you're like, Alright, guys, you've seen a flex real hard. They were probably doing like curls real quick right before the shot. Just just all made up, huge as shit. They're wearing the tightest shirts known to men. Like terrible. It's yeah, but now they're they've they've aligned that he helped them out. So now Dom and Vin are are I keep calling Dom and Vin, they're one person. Hobbs and Dom are uh you know they're friends now, they're family now for now.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:38

Because he spared them from the wrench, right? And then he spared his the other girl, and now it's solidified their buddies.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:44

He's he's yeah, they have a common enemy, yeah, exactly, pretty much. And so now as they're recovering from that, and during this scene, during that sequence, uh Vince gets shot uh and dies in Rue, and then um yeah, apparently his body's just left in a warehouse under a blanket. Uh Vince reveals that he because we meet Vince's wife and kid in the beginning of the movie, Brian and Mia do, and his name's Nico, and then Vince reveals it's short for Dominic. They named him after uh his friend from when they were in their twenties from LA. Yeah, man. This one guy, dude. I've my best friend who brought in some other guy and replaced me, and then that guy fucked us all over. But I'm gonna name my kid after him because I love him. He's a good dude. He's a good dude. Family. Yeah, he's family. Um and so as a reeling from that, everybody wants to cut loose and run, and Dom wants to finish the job, uh, just out of basically just revenge, because fuck this guy. Vince dies now, he's like, it's personal now. Yeah, and uh everybody's declining to do it, and then Hobbes chimes in. I'll ride with you, Doretto. Hell yeah, you will. Yep. And so everybody everybody jumps in and yeah, I mean this is like it's a really it's a really great sequence. The whole heist, like the whole the vault sequence basically is I think it's fucking sick as shit. Yeah, that was cool. I like that. Yeah, and so they they they break into Hobbs uses his APC vehicle to like to break bust for the wall, and they hook up the vault to uh two like dodge chargers, and like they're that's like they're gonna escape with it, and then yeah, like the scene's great, but then the the whole like hey, just for because we think you guys are dumb, they have Mia like because they need to give her something to do, like at the base, like just like exposition, like explaining everything. Okay, yeah, every dirty cop in in the city is after you guys. We're great, like just explaining everything to the audience. Like, we we get it.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:38

That was kind of Netflix fide, whatever, like what we talked about last year.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:41

If you're on your phone, there she is to explain to you what's happening. Uh yeah, just like we obviously was like, we got we gotta give her something to do with this scene. So uh whatever. But the whole yeah, the whole action sequence of them basically driving through the city with the vault and all the fucking damage it causes. It's just like and they're then they start using it to like destroy cars, and it's really well done. And yeah, like I said, uh the fact that it's done practically it looks like it should be CGI, like this is not obviously none of this happened, but yeah, like there's they've they did it like practically it's that's cool, yeah. And they even talked about like, yeah, it definitely fucked up more than we uh thought it would. Like they're like, we didn't um but it's uh yeah, it's such a cool sequence, and then as they're you know, they chase through, they make they go, they head to a bridge, and then but Reyes' men are catching up to them because they're obviously being slowed down by this vault, and Dom does the noble sacrifice like he does every movie. Uh why though?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:36

Because Paul Walker's gonna be a father, you're a father now, Brian. You're a father now, really, dude. Take care of Mia. Yeah, and then dude, in the middle of it, I was like, Why are you saying you're not gonna die? Yeah, why are you saying this? Like, you're Dom. I was just in on the joke. I was like, you're clearly gonna survive. Yeah, but sure, dude. Do your thing, yeah, do what you gotta do.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:58

Let's watch. Um, so yeah, so he unhooks Brian. He apparently has all the controls for the cable, so he unhooks Brian. Brian takes drives ahead, and then Dom like turns uses like controls the vault with the cable, like using, I don't know, some sort of law, whatever the Dom laws of physics. And man just like, yeah, he destroys like all the vehicles with the vault. It's I mean, it's like really cool see, like again, all like actual cars getting like destroyed and falling off the bridge. And I was watching behind the scenes footage of it earlier because I'm like, they it's probably like not like they probably like built like a platform, but they're not actually like on like a bridge over water. No, they're actually like on a bridge, like on water, like they like it's like they like feel like they went through this, like it's all practical, like onset. Like I'm like, dude, that's fucking crazy. Like and like all the cars that are getting destroyed, like you see them in the behind the behind the scenes footage, all the cop cars getting like totaled and flipped in the air. Like I'm like, these motherfuckers they but they went crazy. I'm like, but it looks good. I'm like, cause you know, you watch these blockbuster movies now, and it's like there's no like it's all like weightless to it, because like it's not real. There's no like it's all green screen, yeah. It's like they're not actually there, they're just like they're in a fucking McDonald's parking lot in Atlanta, like yeah, dude, yeah, pretty much crazy. Um yeah, so that he defeats all of the vehicles, but I think gets uh his car gets destroyed, or yeah, he has to escape his car because the the vault like is the car like flies into the ocean, his car, Dom's car, and then where it seems like all is lost, uh Hobbs shows up, or the vault crashes through Reyes' car, and that's what puts them out. But he's injured. Dom's injured at this point, too. And then Hobbs shows up uh or no Brian shows up to save the day. He kills Reyes' as like the his like main henchman, that's like whatever the main bad guy, or main number one guy. Uh so Brian comes back. Well, of course, we didn't hear the car come back. He just shows up out of nowhere for the for the surprise. And then uh yeah, Hobbs shows up and Reyes is like crawling asking for help, and then Dom or Hobbs has to pull out his dude, the largest, the largest pistol known to man.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:56

He just shoots him in the head. Like you have to report this. Don't you have to you have to like don't you have to go back to your boss and be like, so we caught this guy, we're gonna do more research on who he works for and what uh like dude, he's due process, maybe?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:12

Nope. Bang, bang.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:14

Shit was crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:17

What a great guy. Uh yeah, and so now yeah, so the movie ends as the you know, the kind of classic, like cowboy and you know, cop and robber kind of ending where Hobbs is like, I can't let you guys go. I'm just I'm not made that way. And he says, but you know, I'll give you guys 24 hours, yeah, and then it's on. So he lets them go. We get the final interaction. He's like, I'll see you soon, Toretto. No, you won't. No, you won't. No, you won't. And uh, so Domin and Brian leave, and uh the the been the the we gotta we gotta remember we're in the heist movies, we gotta we gotta get the final heist reveal. Yep, and so Hobbs opens the vault and it's empty, there's no money in it, and he great like shit-eating grin smile from the rock at the end there, like and then it's revealed. Uh we're back at the warehouse for like their HQ, and they somehow have the real vault with all the money, they get it open, and yeah, it's a great, a great scene where like they're all reacting to the money, all the money in the vault. Um, we have of course, you know, uh Dom has this like shot where he's like smiling and then like looks up like as if like looking at God or whatever, because he's obviously he's a very religious man.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:26

Dude, oh Vin Diesel, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:29

This is great. He sells it, he sells it, baby. He sells it. Uh they leave money with Vince's family. Uh shit. And yeah, and then um, yeah, they like show the reveal of like how they did it, and like at one point they go under a bridge and they switch the vault with the real like with a fake vault with the real vault, uh, with some of their team driving the garbage truck. Yeah, I'm like, okay, yeah, gotta have the heist thing. Cool, great. And then um, yeah, and then and now everybody's gone their own way. Uh and like the whole yeah, and the whole thing is they they want to get to a country that has no extradition. So the movie ends like with them with Brian and Dom on a beach with their now he now Dom is with the the cop. Yep. She's left her she's left her job of her law enforcement position to to go be with him, be with a life of crime, I guess. And uh it's so dumb, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:21

The whole time it's the whole just playing in the background, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:26

Just comment you know I won another shot.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:37

That sounds like the Mortal Kombat song dude, it's so dumb.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:43

Yeah, um, yeah, and then the movie ends on like a note where because yeah, because it it earlier in the movie, the one race where they race with the cop cars and they it's for a million dollars, uh Brian wins, and then uh Roman and uh Han tell them like oh like Dom let you win. Like he he let you win because like a baby baby gift or whatever. And then Brian tells Dom he wants one of the he wants a real race, and then the movie it doesn't we don't get the race, it just ends there as they drive off. Um but yeah, man, great movie. That's fast five. Fast five. Uh I think it it was just because it was such a for me, like, and I think a lot of people it was just um just a surprise of like what they did with it. Because again, the the first movie is just uh it's uh street racing and they're stealing DVD players. Yeah. And the second movie is I don't know what that is, it's just a bunch of neon lights and like anime and like Midnight Club, dude. Yeah, literally that's what it's what that's what yeah, and the third one is this whole drifting chtick thing, and um like it did but they were all it's all about car, like there's always like it's just trying to force stretch a plot out to get people to get to the next racing of what these movies have always been up until that point, and I think just the the throwback vibes, the the stunts are really insane. This is like this is like the beginning of like because all these movies end up doing like some sort of crazy stunt. Like even the later ones, even though it gets more CG, like there's a lot of like kind of crazy shit they do, like practically that you're like they fucking did that, like and it's it's pretty intricate. Like, and like um Christopher Nolan famously is a huge fan of these movies. Dude, that's right. He loves these movies, like he and he says like one of the things he's like, I just think that like the stunt work they do is like so like the way how they like craft their stunts and all that. And he's like talked about he's like like he's he's all in, like he knows the lore and everything. And um, yeah, there's like an interview with him. I think he's talking to Stephen Colbert where he where he'd reference it. He had said it before, but uh he uh there's like a like an interview, like several minutes where he's he's talking about it. Like acclaimed director Christopher Nolan's like, I really love those movies, that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:44

And I I think he also says it like very like tongue in cheek, like he's like, Yeah, you guys I'm Christopher Nolan. I I like these movies like unironically, yeah. Ironically, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:55

Unironically, like he's in on the joke, but he's like, but I but I do genuinely love the movies.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:00

The the how it gets there, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:02

But I recognize like yeah, and like the way he like he obviously describes like describes it in a very like intelligent way, yeah. Um, but like you he's more or less like you said, saying, like, I'm in on the joke, but I do love these movies. Like yeah, I'm sure that helps with Vin Diesel. I'm sure he's like, yeah, Nolan he gets it, man. I could have he wanted me to do Dark Knight, but I didn't want to wear the suit. He just sells these Vin Diesel will just spin these stories. Uh I run like yeah, because again, this this movie is it again makes over 600 million dollars and it gets pretty good reviews and blows the franchise up, the stars as the stars as far as in the franchise, and basically gives Vin Diesel like full control of the franchise up until that like uh basically like the studio is like at the beck and call of Vin Diesel, like they have to bend to his will because like it it worked, like it was a big undertaking as far as all the shit they did, like filming on location, the stunts, getting all the actors back back, and and then for it to do what it did. It was like alright, I guess we now we have to we're in the Vin Diesel business, we're playing it's his game now. We're just you know, you just please listen to us. And uh I mean it it worked, it it it was working for because like again, seven or six makes more money, I think it makes like seven hundred million, and then seven makes a billion. And a lot of that I think was also kind of due to obviously because Paul Walker dying. I think it was like a lot of interest, like let's kind of what do they do? But it makes $1.5 billion, which is fucking huge. Like insane that this you know, this little these this little movie from 2001 that made like 120 million dollars is now in its seventh movie and it's a billion dollar franchise now.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:46

And numbers don't lie, like that's I think that's why they've kept going.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:49

Yeah, and especially internationally, it it does crazy numbers. Like overseas, this these movies are huge, and the eighth movie did while it did less than seven, still made a billion dollars.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:00

Like it's like you can't deny and then with this one they have that post-credit scene with uh A.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:09

Coming back from the second movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:10

Dude, she's walking, she's like sits on his desk. Yeah. Here we have I was like, dude, what is this?

SPEAKER_03 1:28:17

And then it's the reveal that Letty's uh after all, in fact, alive. Yeah, and opens up the file, the vanilla folder. Yeah. And that's the whole that's the big plot of the sixth one is she's alive, and then yeah, that's that's a whole thing. That's the beginning of the resurrecting characters that are very clearly shown to have died on screen, but we'll we'll find a way. That's so crazy. In the tenth one, so Gaga Do's character dies in the sixth movie. Uh she falls off of a plane into a onto the tarmac into an explosion, like clearly dies, like a plane that's like about to take off, like in full speed, about to take off. She falls off the like the wing into a fiery explosion. And at the end of the ninth movie, two characters like escape some facility, and there's like a s they're like in like Antarctica or something, and like this big ice landscape, yeah, and a submarine comes up from from under the sea, the frozen sea, and the hatch opens and Galgo Dou pops out.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:12

Get in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:14

It's like this bitch like she's dead. No, like she clearly does stop dropping roll. They reveal how Han survived, quote unquote, uh Tokyo Drift, like his death scene in that movie. Because in the Tokyo Drift, his car gets flipped upside down, exp and then explodes. Like of course it does. But in in uh nine, they show how he like survived, and it's like somehow flung out or the in the seventh movie they introduce uh Kurt Russell's character who's like a part of some like secret covert agency, and he like he like replaced put like a fake body like in the car somehow at some point. Like it's it's so it's such a ridiculous reach. It's such a reach. Like it's clear, it's so stupid, but it's just like fuck it, Han's back, like we're in. Like, let's let's just let's bring him back. Golly. I think I don't think they wanted to do that, but I think again, they after Paul Walker died, they're like, we need to like and like the and then the rock leaves after eight because he can't fuck he can't stand Vin Diesel. Um so they were like, we need to like we like killed a bunch of people that everybody liked, and like and then people are like, I just leave in the franchise. Like, we so I think that was like they had a reach to get people that's great people back, man. But um, yeah, man. I mean it's yeah, yeah, I mean the the whole beef with them, like yeah. So I mean, you know, this again, Vin Diesel's power just it just grows and grows, and then you just hear these reports of how like difficult he is on set, like with for like directors and producers, and um he's like showing up to he shows up late, he's like out of shape, he's like doesn't know his lines, like uh he just you know he just is so into himself and like clearly like I'm like it's like this is my franchise, I'm big dogging everybody. Like you guys work around me, I don't work around you guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:58

It's kind of is kind of true, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:01

Yeah, I mean yeah, that sucks. And and at that point, you know, again, as the rock star power grows, like we're at the point where like he's a leading man, arguably a bigger star than Medisel 2 at that point. Yeah, at least when this was all going down and he just couldn't deal with it. Because the rock's whole thing the whole thing, or at least what will what the rock would sell to everybody was like, I'm early, I'm the first one there, the last one to leave. And yeah, dude, you're the shit. Yeah, I'm the hardest working one in the room. That guy's so much. Here's a video of me. I do a giving away money to some cat like crew member. I'm a good guy. Uh and because I I don't know if you ever see did you see the Instagram post where he like tea where the rock like teased whatever like a beef on the set of Fast and Furious? Uh-huh. So after filming of the eighth one, it was like he put some long Instagram posts where like whatever, how hard everybody worked. He's like, uh, you know, for some of you, like you know, can't wait till I'll see you guys down the road. And for and for the select few of you who I call like candy asses, like do you remember that?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:01

And then everybody was like the fuel.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:03

Everybody like, who's he talking about? And then and then it was revealed that it was Vin Diesel.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:07

And then and then Vin Diesel went back and was like, he's trying to take the franchise away. He's doing things that like because they were gonna make that Hobbs and Shah or they made that Hobbs and Shah movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:15

So that I think, yeah, because at that point his the rock star power had grown to the point where it's like, dude, like I'm I don't want to be second fiddle. I'm not trying he does I'm not gonna be in an ensemble movie, like I'm the rock. Yep. So it was ego, I think, mostly, and then also like he was just tired of working with Vin Diesel, like because the rock produces his own movie, so he's like, he doesn't want now, it just factors I don't want to be on a set that I'm not in charge of.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:39

Yeah, it's just it's both egos, it's just stupid.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:41

It's kind of you know, and it happens like it happened with like Tom Cruise or like Will Smith. Like you see, like when they're starting up, like the movies they're making, like are really like cool and inventive and original and they're taking risks, and then as to become global stars, they they start producing their movies and they want to work with people that they can boss around basically. Like, I don't want to work with anybody who's more has more power than I do. Like, I want to be able to run the show, like it's my show, you're gonna kind of bend to my will. And yeah, like if you're The Rock and you have you're making movies on your own now that are grossing hundreds of millions of dollars, like do you want to be third, fourth wing on the Fast and Furious movies? That's it's not his it's not his franchise, and you know, Vin Diesel's like big dicking everybody the entire time. Like, so I I I get it, but again, it's all it all comes down to ego, like and Vin Diesel's got one too. Clearly. This documentary is gonna be dope. I can't wait. Yeah, can't wait for someone to just they need to. There was a book that came out uh like on the the Fast and Furious movies, but like I would love to like yeah, just see like there's there's gotta be some crazy meetings that people have been in with Vin Diesel, like as they're trying to get these movies off the ground. Like the shit that he's probably I mean, yeah, the director that quit, like the whole thing was like, yeah, that they're Vin Diesel was like changing the script like as they're filming. He like wants to he's like read, like developing character arcs, like at like he's they're like, dude, we have to like film this shit. You can't just like like we paid for like locations and like extras and like like you can't just we can't just go to a new country because you you want you want it here now instead of there. Like it's that's wild. It's he's just he was crazy, and I think that that's what caused the delay for the this no now. I think the now uh fast forever is the title of of the the upcoming 11th milk movie and final movie, quote unquote.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:25

Well, we'll see.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:26

And uh there's still uh there's no confirmed director on it right now, and I'm sure they're trying to see who's willing to work with that work with that guy. And uh yeah, I mean, because FastX it it it made I think it it didn't it did it made a lot of money for like but it to it the what they spent on it was I think it was like over like $350 million or something because like they had to like hire a new director and like oh my god and it looks like shit, it looks so bad. Like you can tell it's all like on a green screen, like it looks like AI. Yeah, it there's like a filter on like like and like it looks like Vin Diesel has like a filter on him to make him look younger. Oh, because he's almost he's almost 60. I think he's like 58. Okay, he plays Dominic Treeto as if he's like a 32-year-old man. Yeah, like he like that's what he thinks Dominic Treaddo is.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:14

Like just 32 forever.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:15

Yeah, that's crazy. Um, I'm like, dude, you're 60 years old and you're still rocking the tank top. Like you just put a shirt on, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:21

Just put a shirt on these fucking movies, dude. Just stop. Yeah. Like every time I I every time I see him, he's just like, we're working hard on this to make it the best franchise for for the fans. Like, dude, you don't have any fans left, man. Just just it's a joke.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:36

And then yeah, after the when the 10th one was coming out, he started saying he said uh he would go like on red carpets and like like the live broadcast of the premieres and all that, and he was I remember he said uh that oh Universal was so excited about the script for Fast X, you know, because they they said that they were gonna do 10 and 11, because the original plan was that they were gonna film 10 and 11 back to back. It was supposed to be Fast X part one, then Fast X Part 2, I think was which makes no sense, but yeah, that that was the whole thing. It was gonna be like a Infinity War Endgame style thing. They were gonna film it all at the same time, and then it's like, yeah, we're gonna end it. And then he starts saying, like, before the X comes out, he's like, the studio was so excited about the script, and they now want me to make a third, they want me to make a 12 and a third, they want another trilogy of movies. He's like, and they want a spin-off called The Torettos, and there's been like no coverage, like they're like people are like, I don't think I think he's just he's just saying shit. Yeah, and then even so, yeah, recently there was that announcement that came out that they're making a TV show, TV show, uh Fast and Furious, a live action. Oh my god. So the rep the tr the trade report, like the Hollywood reporting announces okay, they're making a lot one, they're making a live action Fast and Furious show spin-off for Peacock, like a streaming or whatever. Vin Diesel comes out and says, Oh no, actually, we're working on four live action spin-offs, and everybody's like, Yeah, we can't confirm that. Um, I think he's just doing that thing again where he's like just saying shit. Like he did it with Marvel. He he he said that um that Kevin Feige, the the head of Marvel Studios, went to his house, gave him a book of of all these Marvel characters, and then Marvel asked him, Hey, Vin Diesel, Marvel wants to be in the Medisel business, pick any character you want to play, and let's make it happen. And Medisel likes us, he says, Yeah, you know, he gave me the book, says, Pick any character you want, and we can do it. Uh, and uh he's like, and then he's like, So I looked at my kid and I had my kid come over. I said, Hey, what superhero do you want daddy to play? And then my kid picked, he put his finger right there on Groot, and I said, I'll do that one. That's Med Diesel's story of what he did with Groot. And then like James Gunn's like, No, that's not how that happened. He was at he was he was only ever approached to play Groot because the character says three words.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:58

Yeah, like uh we can stroke his eagle a little bit, but yeah, that's it. Yeah, just be behind a sound booth, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:04

It it yeah, like that's like the type of shit he does. It's it's fucking hilarious, man. Um yeah, but I think this was like the the franchise just gets more and more ridiculous at the end uh after this, and and I'm there for it every time. I'm glad you are because I'm I'm not I'm out Yeah, like the it just gets over the top, but uh I don't know. Again, I think it's just the urge. You're in on the joke. I'm in, I'm in on it, and I I love I'm just forever mystified by that man by Vin Diesel.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:31

Like Mark Sinclair, he's just a dog.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:35

There's no one like him in the business right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:37

He's beautiful, he's a beautiful being, I think is what it is. I think he's he's larger than life. Yes, I always hated that term, but until I figured out Vin Diesel as a person. Yeah, and yeah, I want him to go live more. I want him to keep just talking. I'm excited to see the rest of the press junkets from this con festival, yeah, and just him like acting like he's the guy.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:01

Yeah, because then you when you hear like his co-stars talk about him, like everybody as far as like the actors, like always have nice things. Like nobody's like he's a fucking asshole. Like, at least far to the cast. It's it seems like the studio are the ones who have the can't fucking control him because he's just he's out of control. But um, but like everyone, like there's like, oh, like he's amazing, like he's so generous, like he's fought for us, and like Michelle Rodriguez is like, yeah, like they like they're like you know, they weren't like he thinks he's fought for her to get like paid well, like so like it's like he's like an angel, like a good dude for these guys, but it's like he's just this like crazy, like not even crazy, it's just like he's yeah, he's larger than life. There's really no other way to describe him. He's just there's he's a very unique individual, and there's really nobody like him in Hollywood. There, I mean all of his like intricacies and quirk, like it's just it's he's a strange, he's just like an elf. I don't know, like like it's just weird. Like he's a unicorn. He's too much, man. It's it's insane. But yes, he needs to be live, like he needs to be just doing weird, like he does like weird, like unk shit, like embarrassing, like older family member shit, but it's but he's like this global superstar. It's like you know, like that's such a dude, that's so true.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:14

He does unk shit. Yeah, he's on his unk shit. Yeah, damn.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:17

But he thinks he's like 35. Yeah, and he thinks he's actually Dominic Toretto. He knows he's 35. Yeah, yeah. Like that's that's the thing. It's funny too, because like clearly, like, I mean, everybody, I'm sure he's done some like stuff to his body, but like, doesn't look like he's like trying to like keep himself young. Like, he's just like he's aging, but he's just like acting as if he's still like 2001 Vindy. So if I believe it, it'll be true. Yeah, like I I see the buff skinny guy that I was in 2001, but and so you all need to see that too. Like, I'm gonna keep dressing the way I dress, like the tank top, no like major like plastic surgery, like I'm bald and I'm just I'm a rock star, but like clearly I like to eat and drink and enjoy my life. My coronas.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:59

Yeah, that's so crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:00

Um Diesel. Yeah, man, that was fast five. I'm glad you finally saw it, even though you even though you thought you thought I did. You thought you had seen it. Um but I we did it, man. We did it. Did it? He wrote, he rode with me on this.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:15

And I think our conversation was you're like, dude, we should either do Inglorious Bastards, which is one of my favorite movies of all time, or fast five. And I was like, Yeah, man, we can do either one of those. I'll be like, okay, I didn't want to watch Inglorious Bastards again.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:32

Yeah, sure, whatever. Yeah, so Masterpiece or uh I want my unlucky dessert first, woman. Tarantino's best movie or baby oil, the movie, Johnson and Johnson.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:43

Or The Rock.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:44

Yeah. Oh let's talk to Rock and Vin Diesel. Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:47

Um, I mean, I'm glad I saw it. You see it? It was it was overall, it was fun. It's a fun movie. It's a fun movie. There's you know, you roll your eyes a couple times and you cringe a lot, but you're like, man, this was like it reminds you of what life was in 2010s, right? And it was all that, and you're like, shit. Yeah, this was badass back then. Yes, like fast five. Yes. You know, like yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:10

It's it's because yeah, this again, it's the stunt work is really cool. It's before kind of like the whole John Wickification of action movies, which with John Wick, it's great, but then now everything is like we need to do like crazy hand to hand, yeah, or superhero stuff, which again at this point, 2011, it's still really cool. Like we haven't even got the first Avengers yet, so it's exciting, and then now you're like a little bored by this now. Like we need to like too much of the same thing, figure something out. Um, but yeah, man. I I you know, we're as we kind of wind down on this. Uh what have you what have you been checking out lately? I know you've been a busy guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:42

Hold on, let me I I wrote notes because I knew you were gonna ask this. Let's go. I'm a fan, I'm a fan of the show, dude. Yeah, thanks, man. I haven't been caught up, but uh dude, I watched Scream 7. You did? Yeah, what'd you think? You know what? I was listening to the uh podcast with you and your sister. It's not for you guys, it's for people who watched the first one and then didn't watch any of the rest. Because I watched it and I was like, oh shit, oh, oh, you know, and like the Jimmy Tay Tro's in it was just so random and funny. Um I think it's for like the casual screen watcher, I think it's for yeah, the people that just saw the first one and were like, all right, whatever. And then now they either have kids that are a little bit older or like just want to rewatch it. And um, it wasn't the great. I thought it was awful.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:28

I love how you're like, I'm just saying, like, I'm gonna defend it, but it's it's dog shit, but dude, it's not good.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:33

But what kind of motive is that? Right. Just at the end, I was like, huh. Alright.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:39

I've seen worse movies than Scream 7. I just thought Scream 7's whole thing was like, let's honor the first movie. And I'm like, again, if you like a huge Scream fan, they did that. They had just done that two movies prior. So I and it was just like it was just a lot of rehashing of, but that's a lot of these legacy sequels do that. Like all these, like it's a fit like the Halloween reboot they did a couple years back, like same thing, calling back to the same, like literal same shots or dialogue. Like, I think it's just again Gilmore. It works when it works, it works, but I think when it's just it's been done so much now, and we're just like, all right, guys, like they're just rinse and repeating at this.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:15

It's like we got we gotta do something different now. Like a hundred percent. Um, I watched Withering Heights with my wife.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:21

Oh, how was that? I haven't seen that yet.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:24

Dude, it wasn't bad. Yeah, it wasn't bad. Um, something I it did bring up was theater etiquette. I've been going to the movies a lot more. Nice, but my wife is over it because every single movie that we watch, Scream 7, there was these two girls behind us, full conversation. Uh Withering Heights, these two Mexican ladies, they were like like comadres, like they were just sitting back there, nipping nib nibnip. And like that's not like a loud movie, like there's like moments of silence. Yeah, and they're just sitting back there having a full conversation, yeah, all two and a half hours, and I'm like, dude, and it's happened before where like back when I was a kid, we'd go to the movies, and during the trailers, it was like, all right, now we're gonna quiet down. You can whisper a little bit, but now I don't know if it's just I'm getting older or what it is. I don't know if you've seen this. During the trailers, people are have just like, hey, yeah, on their phones, on their phones, straight up conversation. I'm like, and I'm gonna blame COVID because that's what you blame, but I feel like COVID made people forget how to act in public. No one knows how to act anymore. Oh my god. And like my wife and I were straight up like shh, like shushing these people, and they were like, Yeah. And the ones in Scream 7, they were like and I turned around and I go, excuse me, do you mind being quiet? And the girl goes, What the fuck? I go, We're in a movie theater yet, animal. Like, go talk outside. Ah, dude, go have dinner.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:50

Like, what do you so yeah, anyway, but no, but I mean, last year I went we went to go watch uh the how to train your dragon, like the live action remake. Loved it. Yeah, I I was in the bag for it because but uh but we're watching it, and there's like some guy in the like few rows back, and he's like just full on like watching like a sports like on his phone, like in like full volume, full brightness, volume, and like um you know it's a loud movie because there's a lot of like action and stuff, but like you just hear you just hear the I kept hearing it, and I I was like I'm like this fucking guy, dude. So then I'm like, I'm like, I'm gonna go to the bathroom. I'm like, if I could and I went to the bathroom, I'm like, if I come back and this fucker's still on his phone doing that shit. I was like, I'm gonna say something. I go up, lo and behold, there he is. Fucking like I'm like, so I go up to him, I literally go up to him and I'm like, I'm like, can you turn your fucking phone off? I'm like, it's loud. And he's like, Oh, oh sorry, I didn't think anybody would hear. I'm like, I'm like, it's literally full volume. I'm like, you're in it. I I remember I literally looked at him and was like, I'm like, why are you here? Yeah. If you don't want to, if you're more interested in this, then go watch that somewhere else. Why are you watching it here? Oh, it's almost over. I'm like, turn it off. And then he's like, Oh, sorry, all fucking like awkward. And I'm like, and then I go sit down, I'm like my wife, I was with like my wife and her brother and her dad. They're like, What happened? I'm like, I told him to shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:05

Yeah, what the fuck are we doing, man? And it sucks that you have to be put in that position because no one's gonna do it. Yeah, because everyone's either like, I'm just gonna ignore it, I don't want any problems, or they're just okay with it.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:16

Yeah, because what you're gonna go tell the employee, they're fucking 20-year-old kids, they don't want to, they're not gonna go do anything. But oh yeah, maybe like they're fucking scared. Like, I'm like, fine, I'll just be the asshole. Yeah, uh, we're on our unk shit, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:27

Yeah, I literally, I'm just I'm just an old man. I'm like, shut up. I'm like, just please. It's just time and place, man. Like, yeah, I'm starting to get used to the the trailer thing, like, okay, I'm not gonna be a Nazi. I've made my peace with it. Yeah, people are gonna talk, it's fine. But during the movie, like, yeah, that guy's that's unreal, dude. Like full on watching like sports.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:47

Yeah, yeah. You share like I think with basketball, you should like the fucking squeak of like the I'm like, can we fucking it's so dumb?

SPEAKER_00 1:47:55

That was so bad. Um yeah, I watched I watched Double Res Prada, that was good. Yeah, it's only to see that. I watched the one I really loved was Undertone. I haven't seen that one yet.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:04

No, I had Jacob on Jacob Gomez on a couple weeks ago and he brought that one up. But yeah, I haven't seen it. I loved it. Podcast horror.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:10

Yeah, I loved it. Um, I thought it was gonna be silly because it's you're like, what? But like I feel like like demonic stuff always gets me. It always scares the shit out of me. My wife thought it was okay. Um, but I was I was not enough explosions for her. Not enough color, not enough Coco Malian. Uh uh Melissa, I love you. Um disrespect.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:30

I love Transformers too. It's a great movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:32

I love Transformers. Um, but I also love things like this. Um she said it was it it was okay. Um, I think the sound design was amazing. Yeah. And like the when she would like stop the podcast, you would have like the room tone, and that added so much just like dude, it was it was sick. I loved it. I loved it. Yeah, I've heard like the sound design in that movie is really cool. Like, and yeah, yeah. I think with surround sound or like in a movie theater, it's it's the best way to do it. Um I think that's kind of that's it. Nice, honestly. That's all I've watched.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:03

Well, I'm glad you're going to the movies more. Yeah, I just watched um this movie Obsession the other day. It just came out. Oh, yeah. I recommend you check it out. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I've heard mixed mixed reviews. It's really, really, really good. Um kind of in line with you know what it reminded me of, and it's basically a similar story um of like Talk to Me. Okay. How like kind of just super original, yeah, these young directors that come from YouTube. So this direct this guy came from YouTube. Uh his name's Curry Barker. He did like a bunch of comedy and horror like sketches, and then he he made like a um a short film, it's like an hour long. He just released it on YouTube last year called Milk and Cereal. Nice it's like a found footage horror type movie, but it's a cool premise. It's like about two like prank, like prankster, like YouTube pranksters, but like one of them, there's like a twist for with one of them, like, but just some pranks that go too far. But it's really, really well done. And then now, so now this is his like first feature film in theaters, and um it's it's fucking awesome. Like it again. Like super exciting, like like talk to me or like barbarian. That's a horror movie or thriller. It's a horror movie. Okay. Yeah. It's uh like the just the blog line is just a guy, very like lonely, depressed, kind of incelly type guy. Like I'm in. Um it's relatable. You're like, is this a movie about me? I'm a fucking married eyed man. Um he's he's got like he's got this core group of friends, and he has a huge crush on this female co-worker of his that he's known for a long time. And she's very friendly with him and maybe gives vibes that maybe there's she there's a mutual interest, but for the most part, kind of friends with him. Seems like she friends with him, and he's like hopelessly in love with her, and it's just too chicken shit to like even try to like ask her out. And he like he when he he makes an attempt, fumbles it, and then comes across this uh gag gift, so he thinks called the one wish willow. Or if you if you snap you snap it, make a wish, it'll come true, right? It's like you know, you go like into those like fucking crystal shops and they have shit like that, right? And that's where he finds it, and then he wishes for her to love him more than anyone in the world. Snaps it in half and chaos. Yeah, it's fucking good, dude. And the girl, like the girl that he wants that like falls under this spell, like it's fucking she's so fucking good. Like it's like a it's insane, like how good she is. Like it's yeah, it's really good. The movie is made for like under a million dollars, but it looks fucking great. Like it's like it's a small movie, but it's yeah, it's like one of the it's like the movie to beat for me this year. Like right now, I'm like, I was in life, I loved it so much. Um that's your um my weapons of this. Your weapons of this year. Yeah, I'll probably talk about that movie up ups obsessively.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:42

Dude, you made me watch that, and I watched it three times after that. Yeah, I watched it by myself, I watched it with my wife, with my in-laws. I almost watched it with my mom. Mom was like, uh, I don't really watch that. I don't want to watch that right now. But yeah, and every time I watch it, I'm like, wait, wait, yeah, wait, I'm like, dude, yeah. Every time you like pick something up, I love movies like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:01

That's a that's a it's a great movie. Yeah, it is. Obsession's kind of like that, I think. It's it reminds me of weapons, or like I said, or talk to me, like these guys, like it's not a jump scary movie. Like, I don't think none of those movies are really jump scary, like there's jump scares in them, but they're not like cheap, shitty horror movies that just want to get a reaction of you like obsession. Is like it just like it's it's there's there's definitely scary shit in it, but it's more uncomfortable and unsettling, and there's a lot of like secondhand embarrassment because of like the way this girl acts because of the because of what's happening to her. Yeah. Um and it like he like the director, like he just he you sit in a scene longer than you want to. I love that. And you think you're you're so tensed up because you assume it's gonna end in a jump scare, and then it'll like it it the way whatever he does, whether you know just I don't I won't say too much, but like just how he resolves that scene or the lack of resolution, like is just so like jarring, you're just like what the f like you just you're just on edge the entire time. It's it's it's really good and and like yeah, it's it's it's pretty it's fucking great. Like, um I've been thinking about it like ever since I saw it. Like I'm loving it, dude. Like I loved it so much. I can watch it. I yeah, I would check it out for sure. Like if you guys if you if your wife take your wife, it's good, dude. It's good, it's it's fucking good. Change your pace from coconut. Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's uh it's yeah, it's super uncomfortable. But yeah, I mean there's it's such a it's such an easy like premise, like it's such a simple be careful what you wish for, right? Like we how many fucking movies or shows or books have we read about that? And it's like he just the fact that he just takes a simple premise like that and it's just what he does with it, it's it's it's crazy. Like the lengths that he goes to are it's insane the shit that that goes on.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:43

But I th I think these new like YouTube kids are I think we talked about this last time. Yeah, they're the future for sure. And they make those I think growing up, what we've watched and like the nostalgia play of of everything, like when you talk about sitting in a uncomfortable situation, I think about like The Office, which is I mean, this show that everyone loves now, but back then it was like, oh, this is cringy and like it's weird, I almost didn't make it. And that has shaped how we watch TV now. But it's also this weird thing where the suits rinse and repeat it. So Parks and Wreck was like that. Um this new show it's like a in a hospital setting, and it's just like the office. We have so many of those, like, oh, it's a documentary crew, and they're following teachers.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:25

Yeah, like these workplace kind of sitcom, and you know, it's some are good, some are just generic and the same same. Same thing. Um, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:33

They take pieces of that and they build whatever this new thing is. Um same would like talk to me. It was like the whole social media aspect of like you we're playing with demons and all this dark shit, but we're sitting there recording, yeah, it's a party. Yeah, you're just having we're getting drunk and you're just doing something stupid.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:50

It's just fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:51

And like they take pretty much all that social stuff along with the things that we watched growing up and they've watched growing up, and they've they've made like a I mean, they've make make movies great again. Yeah, um, they've made movies that are awesome.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:03

Yeah, like Zach Craig Barbarian, right? He he brings in this whole what if you're what if you double booked an Airbnb and got weird vibes. Yep. And then he just keeps keeps building, building, building. And then like this movie, it's like, yeah, the the the whole the the horror premise is what if you made a wish that went bad? But we've but uh the relatable thing is I think we've all had a crush on somebody who didn't like us back, and like the anxiety that comes with that, like where you're like clear, like you're like so into somebody who like either you don't know if they like you back or they clearly don't, and you're just like living with that, like and like you're too scared to make a move or whatever. Like we've all talked to me, but yeah. We've all yeah, not you I just before marriage, I slinging my dick around. Like what did Tyrese say? Uh a lot of magic activity.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:52

Yeah, a lot of imagining.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:54

I can't really. I'm not gonna see that movie anymore. I can't really sorry, sorry, you're a fucking loser, Rudy.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:59

No, it's happened to me a lot. Yeah, um, that's sick though. I I want to watch that.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:04

Well, yeah, but like yeah, like you said, like again, another YouTuber. And he again, his like comedy, it's like big comedy background, kind of like Zach Krager. Uh these talk to me guys, like their sketches are like over the top violent humor, so it's like the blending, like the comedy horror, like it's just they're just kind of of the same. It's like a yin and yang almost, and and uh yeah, like you said, like the it's just a new generation. Like this kid, he's fucking he's like 26 years old, I think. And he's his first movie, and then and he made it independently for a million, and then it got acquired by a big studio for 15 million dollars, and now it's gonna make like 15 million dollars this weekend, like opening weekend, and it's gotten it has like 97% of rotten tomatoes. Like that's sick. It's like he's killing it, you know. Like, so it's it's exciting. It's like there's like a new avenue now to like get into break into this, like into filmmaking. You like before it was like you gotta go to school and get a go to film school and do some short films, and you know, hopefully you get a big break. Somebody reads a script, and now it's like you can just do shit on YouTube or TikTok, and yeah, there's another one this month too. Um the backrooms. Yeah, that guy YouTuber Kane Parsons is a YouTuber, he's like 21 years old. Yep. He's got a movie coming out with like big stars, like Academy Award-winning actors are like in his and that was from a YouTube video. Like a creepypasta that he I think he then added on into yeah, he's he made a couple YouTube shorts and now he's making a $10 million movie. So sick.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:26

Like and the the the previews are so ambiguous. Yeah, where you're like it's so weird. What the heck? And even the trailer, I'm like, what is this even about? Like what I'm excited about. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:37

Yeah, I mean, then look at the like the trajectory of these guys' career. Like Zach Krager made an award-winning movie in weapons, made was one of the biggest grossing movies of that last last year. His his le his actress won an Oscar for her performance in the movie. Um, this guy Curry Barker has he's now gonna do a new Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie. Like he's just they've given the keys to like a huge horror IP. Damn. So it's like it's exciting, man. I'm like it's super cool, like seeing that shit. And like, I'm just I'm I'm a freak, so I like that type of shit. So I'm just like, it's like if I baby oil or horror. Like I just I just want it all. Combine it and make let's make the next Fast and Furious movie a horror movie, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:14

Like dude, I I can see it being like a zombie thing. Someone dies on the 13th one, and then the 15th one is like zombie pop back.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:22

Yeah, they just gotta start being sci-fi. It's just let's let's switch it up.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:25

It's unreal.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:25

But yeah, man, it was uh good to great to have you back on this finally. Yeah, man. Thanks for thanks for having me on. Sorry I was late. It's alright, late. Yeah, yeah, don't let it happen again. First you come first you come on this podcast and disrespect a movie I love, and then you're fucking late the second one.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:42

Dude. Oh, thanks for having me on, dude. This was a lot of fun. It's always it's always a pleasure.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:46

Yeah, man. Appreciate it. Appreciate you listening, supporting the show that you as you have been and coming on, and it's good good to see you again, bro. Hell yeah. All right, man. Thank you guys.