Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Podcasts are built on hope! Rudy is back this week to discuss the first live-action Star Wars spin off movie, Rogue One! This a personal favorite of Rudy and his guest, Ryan. They'll come together and sacrifice everything, or at least 2 hours of their day, in discussing this gritty war movie set in a galaxy far far away. They'll discuss the movie's portrayal of the Rebellion, the dark ending that Disney somehow approved, the movie's troubled production, and of course.. mention Andor every chance they get. It's a great discussion.. listen to the podcast.. please rate, review, and share. Make 10 subscribers feel like 100!

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Hey folks, welcome to Did You See This with Rudy Martinez. I'm your host, Rudy Martinez. Today, joined by new guest, new friend, new person, Ryan. Hey, how are we doing, guys? Thanks for having me. Welcome to the show, man. It's good to good to meet you. Good to have you. Very, very excited to be here. Looking forward to getting into at least my favorite movies. Yeah. You're an acquaintance, a friend, coworker of of Kevin, uh, a frequent guest on the show. Um, somebody I obviously my brother-in-law, but so he kind of you we kind of got connected through him. I said, Well, I'm always in need of guests. So Right. Uh when I looked through your uh everything you had done in the past, I looked over at Kevin and I was like, I think he would do Star Wars. And he's like, I don't know, you gotta text him and find out. So I was excited to hear you were you were open to it. Yeah, I hadn't done any Star Wars yet. Um, yeah, with the franchise stuff, really the only franchise I've been doing consistently is the Fast and the Furious. I saw that. Um, and that's mainly out of a that's just a personal passion of mine, not really that. But uh, I mean I love Star Wars. I love more. I did the first Iron Man. Um again, I I and I want it, like I haven't done Star Wars yet, I think because I was just like, I don't know what angle, I don't know if I should start like from like the beginning with the franchise stuff, but I was like, you know what? Like I guess we kind of are starting at the beginning, technically, chronologically, uh almost really solos before, but yeah, as far as the main franchise. Um no, I think main star I I I tell everyone Rogue One is the start Star Wars, whether you're a new fan or an old one. Yeah, like if you you know you think it the movie should go 456, well, Rogue One starts it. Yeah, literally, this is this is this is a good way to start it if you haven't watched them at all before. Um, but yeah, so you we you reached out to me and uh we connected and you brought up you but you mentioned star you're a big fan of Star Wars, and I'm like, you know what? I haven't done any Star Wars yet. Uh we were you know originally we were gonna record last week, uh, but then you know that that didn't work out, which is now we're here this week. But I thought it was it would have been had we done it last weekend, just good timing because the Mandalorian and Grogu, our first Star Wars movie in theaters in set over almost seven years, a little over yeah, just about seven years. Hurts to hear. Yeah, insane. And obviously, in between that, we got a uh you know a variety of of shows on Disney Plus that range from uh forgettable to good, to really I mean to amazing if we I mean if we're talking Andor, but which we will. I'm I'm glad we have the same standpoint on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um and yeah, so you brought up Star Wars, and I'm like, well, like I could do a new hope. Like we could start with episode four, or we could start with the fan the Phantom Menace, but I'm like, am I really, you know, I'm like, am I really gonna, you know, the I have um some love for the prequels, I think, because I grew up on them. I mean, we're I'm assuming around the same age, so yeah, I'm the exact same. I I actually prefer the prequel tenfold to the originals. Okay, okay, which I mean, and you're not alone in that. Like, I feel like in the last 20, 15, 20 years, like the prequel of probably like 15 years, the prequel love, like the prequel fans have like come out and like been reclaimed, and there's like a lot of love for them now. We got older and our voices got louder, yeah, yeah, and uh and I I and again, I think there's there's stuff in those movies that is really good. Um I haven't re-watched them in a while. I rewatched them all, like I think like when like the sequel trilogy was coming out, I rewatched everything, and then like as each movie came out, I would kind of watch them every now and then. And I mean, yeah, there's like there's there's good stuff in a lot every single one of them. Oh, yeah, honestly. I I think and and uh and and you know, even the later movies and TV shows have basically reclaimed this the prequels and now bring characters back from them, reference them, bring up I will say in a very respectful way. Yeah, that was one thing Disney did a really good job at is when it came to like retouching the prequels and things like that. They were very as they've done a lot of disrespectful things with Star Wars, and they were very good when it came to that. Yeah, yeah, because really before then, and even when Disney had kind of purchased Star Wars, it it really felt like they were trying to get away from those. Like, I mean, Lucasfilm for sure was like, We're not touching it, everybody hated it. And then Disney got it, and it seemed like everybody hates those things. And then I think with the again, the the love, there was the the clamor for you and McGregor to come back as Obi-Wan. Um Hayden Hayden, which you know uh got a had a really bad rap because he was basically shit on the entire for the last two movies, the clone attack of the clones and revenge of the Sith for his performance for maybe not being the greatest actor. Uh the first the first Comic Con that he came back to. Did you see his the panel he had? Dude, watching the crowd reaction and then seeing him, you know. I never want to see someone cry. Yeah, but seeing his reaction, it's like, dude, I'm glad you finally get to feel the love. Right. Like you said, he was like even uh Ahmed Best, who played Jar Jar Bings, kind of you know, the character wasn't reclaimed, but the actor definitely got was kind of reclaimed, and I think made made peace with the the franchise because it kind of he kind of ruined his ruined him really personally and professionally to the point where he was even brought back to to play kind of minor characters, but just to have him come back, just again Disney paying homage and respect to those movies, showing him love, because at the end of the day, that is what part of the story. Right, right. Um but yeah, so I I'm assuming since you were young, I've got the prequels I'm assuming were probably your entry point into Star Wars, or at least your major entry point. I started on Geez, actually, and me, especially I think seeing it at a young age, I think because I saw the originals first, the original trilogy first, it made the prequels so much better. Um because at the end of the day, my biggest complaint about the originals are you know with what Star Wars should be. You look at the lightsaber fights in the original, yeah, and they're abysmal and pathetic. Right, especially that first one. Right, and I understand because of the time we were at back then. Now I've heard my dad went and saw the first ever Star Wars movie on opening day. Ryan, it was gay, it was life-changing. Yeah, cinema was never the same after this, and I get that, but then you look at where we're at now, you look at the uh duel of fates, and it's like that scene alone is more to me than but the story of the original movies is impeccable, yeah, right? I'm talking about the visuals of it, and but that's you know the time that it's made, exactly. Yeah, especially that first moon, which is like I mean, the the original trilogy, they're all they're all classics, obviously, and the storytelling in them is is fantastic. Um not perfect. I mean, there's still there are narrative hiccups because again, George Lucas didn't really know what he didn't really know what he was doing. He was kind of he was making it up as he was going along. Right. Whereas with the prequels, he basically had it all mapped out for the most part. Yep. It was just a lot of stuff that at the time people especially the fans of the originals who are now much older, um our age, I guess, really, and they're watching something that they just it's not what they had anticipated or hoped for, I guess. Um and I think for us as we're kids, the first one I'm I'm six years old when the Phantom Mannis comes out. Okay. So I you know, again, yeah, the Duel of Fates. I think Darth Maul looks amazing. Uh, you know, the lightsaber fights are crazy, you know, the the the special effects are next level stuff. I mean the pod racing, the the spaceships, all that, the the aliens, the creatures, like it's all great shit, and clearly like what George Lucas had always wanted to do because even he knew he was limited by the technology of the time that he was making these movies in. Like he well, he was always trying to push the boundaries. And at that point in the you know, late 70s and mid 80s when he's making these movies, it's a lot of practical effects, which still you know look great, still like a lot of it looks great. It still is back then. There was nothing like it. It was number one. The same way we looked at the uh, you know, uh the uh gosh, Revenge of the Sith, the opening scene, the uh giant space fight. Right, that was you Michael Bay looked at that and was like, Yeah, oh wait a minute, this is possible. Yes on they they repeated and did it again, but yeah, like like you said, it was it they still had what they needed back then for it to be. Yeah, and Star Wars, I guess, as a whole, it's it's now if you look at it now to where it was. Like in the pre again the prequels come out and were basically reviled by fans. Uh they made a lot of money, but Star Wars fans were like there they sucked. That was the basically the consensus that they sucked. Their piece of the city. Non-Star Wars fans loved it, Star Wars fans hated it. And uh that was and then that was kind of the end of it after Avengers Sith were like, okay, that's it. I guess it's done, we're never gonna see it again. And then it moved to animation, really, was kind of the Clone Wars. There was a Clone Wars movie, which everybody hated as well. I've I think I've seen it maybe once, and it's not good, but uh it was. I remember watching it as a kid and like It's for kids. Right now, and it was for kids, and I liked it, and I remember rewatching it as adult and going, I get why I liked it, but yeah, this wasn't this was nothing special. And then that gets reclaimed when because now Dave Falone, who had been working at Lucasfilm for a long time, makes the Clone Wars TV show, which was much more appreciated, and I think I think adds a little bit of nuance and kind of helps the reclaiming of the prequels by basically it's it's the story set between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith, and just that that gap in between both movies. Uh the intro, you know, we get more about the Asoka Tano character. Just there's like all kinds of stuff in it gave so much life. In my opinion, Clone Wars gave so much life to Star Wars because there's at a point in time where it was especially when as it was coming out, there wasn't a lot of Star Wars coming out, and the amount of different characters and like backstory they gave you, where you know, once you're a diehard fan, or you know, you watch Clone Wars and you start uh absorbing their Star Wars content. This character, I know why they're here, or I know why they have this scar, and it's because in Clone Wars they showed. Yeah, so it did that did a really cool thing, and yeah, and honestly, it the show I think basically kind of gets unceremoniously cancelled after a while, and we don't really know what the fate of Star Wars is until I think it's 2012 or 13 when it's announced that Disney buys Lucasfilm. Yeah, so they've essentially they've bought Star Wars, and this is a few this is years after they've been killing it with Marvel. So I think at the time every it's an exciting prospect that I was more excited than not when when they bought it. I was sitting there because again, like you said, everything was left to die. Lucasfilm wasn't doing much, they were very stagnant. And I was like, Well, if you're not gonna do anything, it's gonna die. I was definitely more happy that I know a couple people I know a couple people who still are not of Star Wars simply grab, but I say here it's not a money grab if there wouldn't have been nothing to grab. I mean Hollywood movie making it's it's it's a business, it's it that's it's all for money. I mean, ultimately, like that's what it's for. So I mean I don't care what no one says. Grogu's great. Yeah, it is. I mean, it's all it's IP. It's it's this is it's toys, it's merchandising, it's it's all it's theme parks. I mean, you can say you can say that about anything. Any any movie or franchise you love is money, it's a money grab, whether you want to admit it or not. Whether you whether it's an Oscar-winning film or a beloved family favorite, it's it was it was made with the idea of producing a profit. So it's like on one side tangent note, you go to uh the Star Wars Land during COVID at the at Disney. No, not during so do you know how they were operating the Star Wars Land when it had opened uh COVID had started? I don't know. So what they did is only so many people could go into the Star Wars section of the park at once and they would do the colors. I remember that. Um and at least when I went, they would like call out over the loudspeaker like this color your dinnits or whatever to leave Star Wars. Um I had heard ahead of time from a friend that if you stayed and like passed, they had, and I'd seen them like squadrons of stronger actors would check your band, like role play. Wow. And so if your color was supposed to be gone, they would literally escort you out as security. Wow. And like role play it out. And so you mentioned, you know, the theme parks being the money grab. And I sit here and I'm like, I'm a-okay with it because I ended up staying late on purpose, throwing myself under the bus when I saw him. I like walked by and literally waved with my hand that had the wristband, and the full squadron, three of them stopped, turned. They sent the other three to keep going, and three of them escorted me out of the Star Wars land full character to rebel scum, and it was I'm sitting here talking to you about it now, and it was you know back in 2020. So I mean, I've done the uh the rise of the resistance ride, is it the research? Yeah, the ride, the immersive ride, and I mean when you're in it, it's like you're literally in Star Wars, and like I remember the first time I went on it. Finally, I was like, this is like I kind of was getting like chills low-key, like this is literally what I would expect it to feel like to be on like a Star Destroyer. Like I'm like, it feels like yeah, it was yeah, it's I mean, you can't you can't uh the first uh laser that they shot at car or whatever you want to call it, you'll end. Uh I quite literally bobbed into the laser because it would look so real. I thought something was actually coming at me, and it I had to you know take a deep yeah. Um so yeah, I mean again, like you can you can sit there and criticize Disney and and they've done some questions they've definitely done questionable things with a lot. I mean, not even just Star Wars, you can look at Marvel and all of their French, all of their brands really. Uh uh as have many studios with their brands. You can look at DC or Harry Potter. A lot of it's all done under a corporate umbrella. There's tack there's there's you know stock stockholders that have that they have to answer to. I mean, it's all it's it's a whole big thing. You don't have your greatest uh accomplishments without your worst failures, so you gotta you know we wouldn't know Rogue One is one of the better Star Wars movies if we didn't have some of other poorer ones, right? Um, so yeah, so so Disney buys Lucasfilm, meaning they and really they buy it for Star Wars and uh, you know, I guess Indiana Jones, but you can primarily they probably wanted Star Wars. And the first movie to come out, or the first thing that comes out is Rebels, the animated show, which is a sequel to Clone Wars uh essentially, which I enjoyed. I watched, I don't know if you watched it. I've seen it all. It was for me, it was not nearly as good as Clone Wars, it was still phenomenal, but it was good. I just think that yeah, Clone Wars was and also again, it's it's Clone Wars was produced out of the Disney era, so they could they could do a bit different things than Disney kind of would at least initially allowed Star Wars to be. Oh yeah. Um, and so Rebels is you know, it's a Disney, it's a it's on that what Disney XD, so again, it's it's more suited towards a younger audience. Um, but there was definitely things that would, especially later as the show went on, that they definitely they let some things fly. I'm like, all right, I was gonna say the late season of Rebels is where I like locked in because it's where it started to feel real, you know. A lot of for me, Star Wars, you gotta have the darkness, you know, and because that's when Rebels started to get top, Kanan starts to go through his struggles and you know, his vision, things like that. It was like, oh, this is actually bad things are happening, and we're gonna see a lot of good and come from it. And uh then obviously the birth the first movie to come out is The Force Awakens, uh JJ Abrams, who I thought at the time was a that was a fantastic choice to bring it back. I think if of of the directors of kind of that area and his age range and who were making movies around that time, I thought he was definitely somebody who that was a good choice, that was a good hire. Um you're not wrong. And um I mean the lead up to The Force Awakens was I remember just a crazy time. All you know, all the marketing and the the the secrecy around it just um just I think only increased the hype around the movie, and the movie was a huge success. Uh critically, commercially, I think for the most part, fans were like, Yeah, this is kind of what we wanted. I think that was kind of the the the consensus um when it came out. Well, what where were we where were you when the force wake? Like how were what was your reaction when it came out? I was I was right there with you. For me, it was uh not to be cliche, but we got hope. Right. Like it was like this is hope, right here. It could have been the new hope. Right. No, literally, it's like it could have been better and it could have been worse, but like this was Star Wars, and that's really what I was ready to never get another Star Wars movie. And so when it came out, it was like, no, okay, well, let's make sure it's a Star Wars movie, and I went and watched another little kid in me was jumping on the older meeting good. Absolutely. Um, yeah, I think it gave everybody what they wanted. It it brought Star Wars into the modern era of filmmaking while still embracing what people loved about the originals, you know, kind of still avoiding the whole prequel talk, the whole prequel or the whole prequel era. Uh you know, there's little hints of it. They mention it in the Force Wagons, but uh definitely really hearkening back to the original trilogy, which you can tell was like that was like the mandate from Lucasfilm. Like we like everybody loves four, five, and six. Let's make sure let's let's honor those. Yeah, let's do the practical effects, let's shoot on location. And honestly, that was smart to move away from all the green screen of the prequels and and which I mean again, there's still a ton of green screen, huge blockbusters, but they were if they're filming on real locations, they're they're building puppets and animatronics, you know, the using models, and yeah, I just it definitely gave I mean I I think I saw it like three times in theaters. Like I wasn't I was hyped. I loved it. I was hyped, I loved it. I mean, obviously, it was very much a first part of whatever we do, obviously we didn't know what the story was gonna be, obviously, but it definitely felt very much like a first chapter. So I mean, yeah, the shortfalls of that movie are you know, maybe there's some things that just had not been explained yet that were I questioned, obviously, as far as narratively. Right, but you have to give it the benefit of the doubt, at least in the moment, because well, there's two more, or you know, there's more gonna movies coming out and they'll be explained, which sadly some parts of it were explained. Yeah, um, and I you know, I you know, I won't go too deep into that. That's probably for another that's another show for other movies. Obviously, you know, I think the the sequels to Force Awakens, The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker, mostly last I think Last Jedi is mostly successful, although that movie does things that I definitely, you know, even uh after several rewatches don't enjoy, uh, you know, but that's a whole that that was a that's a whole debate that just you don't want to dip your toe into. No, no, no. Rise of Skywalker, I think, uh definitely uh a panic movie. While there are there are things uh that I do there there are there are there are moments and things in that movie that I do like. I don't think it's the worst thing ever made. It's defin but it definitely as a whole seven, eight, and nine fail as a trilogy and ending off the Skywalker saga as they intended to, and it's clear that there was no story in place. They were kind of making it up as they went along and and reacting to fans, very loud, focal, angry fans, which is not how you want to operate. You need to create a story you feel confident in and execute it. And you can adjust based on you know how things go in certain movies, what works, what doesn't. But if you're listening to trolls on Reddit, you're not gonna you're already losing. You're already losing. And yeah, we we agree, just so you know, we agree on those. But so The Force Awakens was a huge hit. It makes one point five, I think it makes almost two billion dollars. I think it does it does make two billion. I want to say it did. Um one of the biggest opening weekends of all time, one of the highest, I think it's still the highest grossing movie in the US of all time or North America. Um, and it was the the the consensus was Star Wars is back, Disney did it. Uh, and one of the exciting things about them sty making Star Wars movies is the announcement that they're gonna be all that while they'll also make sequels in the Skywalker saga, new chapters, episode your episode sevens, eight, nines, etcetera, they were gonna be doing kind of spin-off movies or one-off movies. Standalone, yeah. Uh, and they could tackle characters we know uh in different, you know, in different parts of their life, or just completely different scenarios, just different stories that are not tied to the main franchise and can kind of be their own. And that sounded exciting to me. Um, and uh, you know, they they initially it's like, oh, maybe we'll get like we'll get the Obi-Wan movie with you and McGregor, which was rumored forever and ever. We'll get you know, the the the the the possibilities were endless, at least at the time before they started announcing what it was they were gonna actually do. Right. Uh and how you know how kind of short that run ended up being. But I was jumping up and down for a Vader movie. I just wanted to stand up. And I think every yeah, everybody's first thought is like, oh yeah, we can do a Palpatine prequel, we can do a Vader movie, we can do a Boba Fett movie, like we can just you know, everyone's first thought is like get pull your favorite character you want to see more of. There you go. And I think because at the time we hadn't got a bunch of that yet, and now that we've gotten a bunch of that, we're kind of like, okay, let's stop doing this. Let's let's just do new shit. Right, right. No, it's like maybe, you know, maybe just a couple new characters in there. Yeah. Um, and so the first one that's announced is Rogue One, which is it they say it's gonna be about the little piece of a sentence in the opening crawl of the original movie about uh the people who stole the plans for the Death Star. Uh, which when that was announced, I was like, that's a great idea. That's a great idea for a movie. Like a make it like a heist movie in the Star Wars, like let's fucking go. Like I quite literally I looked at my parents who are huge Star Wars fans, and I told them if they do like an Ocean's 11 kind of not you know, not actually Oceans 11, but that style where it's like no, we need to figure out how to break in, get this done, and I'm like, and the fact that this would be the start of Star Wars. Um, my parents seeing the original one come out, they were that's you know, once I explain they were beyond any to go watch this movie Time Wanna Beat. Yeah, and it's in line with what Lucasfilm was trying to do because they're again they're trying to hearken back to the to the original trilogy. Now they literally get to go back to the original trilogy, that timeline. Those those designs, those the stormtroopers, the types of ships, the empire, like the ri the rebels, because it's set it's gonna be set prior to a new hope. So we're in that time zone. So it's gonna be exactly what the original fans are gonna they're gonna recognize all of this, all of this scenery and the characters and the landscapes, and so it's like, oh, we're just gonna be it's back in the the original trilogy, basically, that that that timeline. And um, yeah, I was super excited, and then they announced that uh Gareth Edwards is gonna direct it. Who had just done the Godzilla reboot in 2014, which I was a huge fan of. Big Godzilla, yeah. So I was like, oh, like that guy does like visuals and scale like incredibly well. And like the tone of Godzilla, I was like, dude, if he can do something like that in Star Wars, like, let's go. Because the Force Awakens, I loved it, but it's it's just it's just your typical Star Wars adventure. Loved it, great. But I'm like, let's do something like if let's get something a little more grounded and darker, like going, and just a different vibe for Star Wars. And that's kind of what it all everything they everything time every time they talked about it, it seemed like that's what they were trying to go go, what they were going for as far as these standalones, that they would be different from the saga. And they've done a really good job of doing that, I will say. Like, you know, you look at Mandalorian, it feels like a Western kind of like bounty hunter-esque, you know. Especially those for that first season in particular. It's straight up just like a wet old school Western TV show. It's like Gunsmoke or Tombstone in the future. Right. Literally. I mean, it's it's what it is. And yeah, no, definitely, and Rogue One definitely had its own. I mean, uh yeah, it was its own vibe. I was gonna try to compare it to like Revenge of the Sith, uh, Order 66, of how it goes, but even that one, that was like much so a sacrifice for the scale of Rogue One. Star Wars never shown that we've seen sacrifice, but not you know that Rogue One shows in this. No, absolutely not. I mean, not until well I mean until Andor, which we'll get into, but um, but yeah, I mean, so I was incredibly hyped for this movie, like before I even saw like any promotional, like any posters or images or footage, like I was extremely excited. I think at Star Wars Celebration, Gareth Edwards was talking about how he's like, he's like, there were somebody asked him like what kind of movie is it gonna be? Like, what's what are you going for? And he's like, he's like, Well, the movies like these movies, it's like it's called Star Wars. He's like, I want to bring the war, and I was I remember that reading that and I was like, Yes, round of applause. Yes, I'm like, let's make he's like, he's like, yeah, his whole thing was I'm making a war movie. And he talked about how he like brought on a lot of the folks that worked on movies like Blackhawk Down or Saving Private Ryan or Zero Dark 30. So I'm like, let's you're speaking my language, that's exactly what I want. Like I we have the the Skywalker saga to give us our you know grand Star Wars adventure. Let's use this opportunity to make something you know fucked up or like crazy, badass, gritty, like whatever the case may be. Like, do go something that's making me bite down on nothing, and just like, oh my god, is this happening right now? Yes, exactly, exactly. Uh and yeah, I mean, the I I you know, this was I'm chronically online at this point in my life, so I'm like following all the casting rumors and all the story rumors and the the quote unquote leaks of what what's gonna happen and um and yeah, man, I mean the the the movie is made and it seem I mean I think I feel like it was pretty quiet as far as the production of the film because it it ha it's happening at a similar time to Force Awakens, I guess, or or I guess Last Jedi. It's kind of they're filming as The Last Jedi is going into prep. Um, and then as we get closer to the movie, we start hearing about secret these reshoots that took place and all this uh trouble behind the scenes. Um, and I feel like this was such a like this is when the internet starts getting terrible because it's like then anytime a movie has reshoots, it's like the end of the world. And I feel like Rogue, I mean, I feel like Rogue One was like the like the the catalyst, or like yeah, like just like the exciting incident for internet trolls to be like, oh, there's Black Panthers doing reshoots, it's a mess, or you know, right, and then like it to the point where like several studios and directors and producers and uh be like, guys, when movies cost X amount of dollars, it's we schedule reshoots, like it's it's every movie does it. You guys are just this hard. We have the money and we have the time, let's make sure this is perfect, yeah. Um, and you know, the we have we we we don't still even you know the movie's gonna be 10 years old this year, which is crazy, Rogue One. Oh my god, I didn't think about that. Yeah, December, this December it'll be 10 years old, and we still don't know the full story or scope as to as to what happened. We know from like as far there's a lot of uh people have spoken about it, kind of alluded to kind of the the the the scale of what was changed from the original cut. Um some of the casts have said made comments like, yeah, we don't we basically made two whole different movies. Uh some of like the producers and writers or people that work behind the scenes were like it seemed like a lot of the stuff that was that ended up being changed the most was the everything in the third act, right? The scarif stuff um that that was kind of fundamentally changed from what was originally filmed to what we ended up seeing in the final product. Um there were things you know, the big thing was like that Gareth Edwards was kicked off the movie, and they brought in uh Tony Gilroy, who is the creator of Andor, who was already kind of doing some like uh uncredited rewriting of the script. I was gonna say he was already working on the movie though, right? He had yeah, so a lot of people ended up re-working on this script. Yeah, it sounds like uh prior to filming and during filming. The people were brought in. I think like Christopher Macquarie was one of them. Um a lot of people that like are big writers or directors now. Tony Gil Tony Gilroy is uh someone I like a lot. He's um I mean I I love and you know kiss his feet for what he did for Star Wars these last few years, but I mean, yeah, so he was working on the movie already, uh doing uncredited work, and it sounds like they were just a fan of what he was doing, and they asked him to come on and assist with uh the reshoots. So we know there was like about six five to six weeks of reshoots um that retooled the third act, and that a lot of what he did, Tony Gilroy did was just adding more depth to some of the characters, I think, is what he did, and and cleaning up the edit and rewriting scenes and dialogue that they just I guess the you know that the whole the the story that the the report was that Lucasfilm wasn't happy with the original first cut of Rogue One, that they just felt it wasn't landing, it wasn't working. This was our first standalone Star Wars movie. We it needs otherwise what's the yeah, because if they if they failed the first standalone movie, it would have been disastrous for the brand name period. You know, the next movie half the people bought tickets aren't gonna buy tickets because you're the first time. Yeah, and um so again, we don't really know exactly what happened. The the Tony Gilroy and his brother Dan Gilroy, who are both filmmakers and worked on Brogue One, like the reshoots, have kind of said things. Tony Gilroy has like alluded to like that the movie was in a disaster, like a disaster. Like he's been a little bit more uh candor, yeah, a little candid about it lately for sure. And a little bit more like the last like with, I think, with the lead up to Andor, he him and his brother were like, Yeah, like they were they were in dire hill, like they they were in need of uh saving. And like um, and I think a couple years ago, Gareth Edward had a new movie come out called The Creator, and they it was brought up again. And he's I think he's made his peace with it, and he's like, I made my Star Wars movie, it was good. I you know, I'm I'm good with it, whatever. And he's been like a lot of what's out there, is it true? Like, I was on set. It seems like Gareth Edwards was also doing reshoots, like he was directing some stuff, and Tony Gilroy was direct, they were directing stuff at the same time, right? They were tackling different things. Um, the entire Darth Vader sequence at the end of Rogue One was a reshoot that Gareth Edwards directed himself, so it's like it doesn't seem like he was like shut out of the movie, it just seems like they needed somebody to come in to assist. Yeah, more I mean, perspective, right? And I'm sure that they were helping each other with what each other were doing. It wasn't probably just one-sided because yeah, and I'm sure, you know, there's probably some if you could really ask somebody what what what how they felt about it, what was going on, I'm sure there are moments or days that were like this fucking movie's a mess. We need you're you're saving the movie or Gareth. Gareth, no, like you know, I'm sure there's some ego stroking going on for sure. There has to be that it's Hollywood. Uh I would just hope that they would settle it by picking up two duel and sabers and just heading out into them in front of the cameras, guys. Just get it done. Just knock it out. Hey, whoever wins this duel is the one uh running this reshoot right now. Yeah, um, and I mean, you know, if you watch the first teaser for Rogue One, the very first teaser that comes out, 90% of that teaser, it's all footage that is wasn't that never makes that wasn't in the final movie. It's all now that you're saying that, yeah, you're right. That's all I mean. Forrest Whitaker's character has is is bald in the teaser, and then in the final movie, he's got hair. Right. The dialogue is different, his scenes are different. Um, there's a whole sequence at the end of the first teaser where Jin and Cassie are running on the beach getting shot at by the the AT80s, and that's not in the final movie. Not at all. Because they reshot the whole third act. And I mean, for the better at the end of the day, I have to say, just because of how it came out, I there's not a that's the one thing I would give Rogue One. There's not a thing I would change about it. And obviously, I'm sure if we sat down and looked through it, you're gonna find small indifference, small things you could go in and change. But overall, I feel like when it comes to Star Wars and the story, like all that pain and trouble that we're talking about that they went through, it seemed like it was for the better for us. Yeah, honestly, I think at the end of the day, the movie, I love it. So I think you love it. I mean, it's it's probably of the the Disney movies, it's it's probably I mean, you depending on the day, like between this one and Force of Vacans, like it's probably my favorite Rogue One. What I what I tell everyone is in today's day and age, because this matters, right? You go back when it first came out, might be a different story. You go back even further. If I have someone in my life who's never seen anything about Star Wars and they know very little, I show them roll. That is the entry movie for me to get someone into Star Wars, and there's not even a lightsaber until the last minute of the movie. Um, and I think it does a better job at hooking, describing and feeling out what Star Wars is, at least for new people. Yeah. Now, if you've already seen, you know, two or three Star Wars movies, then you might not you might want to keep going in the order you're in instead of bouncing to this one. I agree. I think this is a great entry point. Even just with like, you know, the Andor, the the show that we've referenced a few times, and we'll keep referencing because you know I love it. And one of the greatest things ever made. 10 out of 10 cinema. Andor is even a show I've recommended to people who don't watch Star Wars or have seen it, but like they're not diehards. I'm like, just watch Andor. I'm like, it's it's it's Star Wars without having to be Star Wars. I'm like, it's just you know, and I think I'm like, if you like that, then watch Rogue One. And Rogue One gets you know, it it teeters on the edge of the Star Wars stuff, and then even from there you can go into the the other movies and and and see what you like. I'm like, but um yeah, I mean the movie was despite all the nonsense online about this is gonna be a mess, all the reshoots, blah blah blah. Like it comes out, I go see it, I walk out, I'm like, that was fucking amazing. Like, I'm like, this was the movie I desperately wanted. Like, I were waiting for him. I'm like, this is what I want Star Wars to be. Like, I like I love the great the the Jedi Sith warring, you know, Skywalker saga epic journey. That's great. I'm like, but I I for the movie to end, like the the the the journey the movie takes me on with the characters and the tone. I'm like, this is what they need to be doing. Like, I'm not saying it always needs to be Rogue One, but it needs to be like change it up, do something different. It's standard, yeah. Everything about it. It needs to be, it needs to be new, fresh. I don't want these side characters that seem like they mean something to mean nothing at the end. That's probably my favorite part of Rogue One. Is it's like, for example, you have Bodhi the pilot. You don't think he's a big deal, you don't think he's gonna play a major role. Well, guess what? It all falls apart if it wasn't for him at the end of the movie. And you can say that same thing for the eight other non-you know, there is no main character in Rogue One necessarily, but the eight other side characters all had their major role, all had the development, and all their stories made sense. Yeah, and that's one thing that I really praise Rogue One for is how they managed to intertwine everyone together at the end at the same time as they're building to that. I mean, you're literally bouncing to different planets, you know, from one character, and you're still able to follow the stories because of how they wrote it. Yeah, and I'd say that if I had the the biggest criticism of the movie is I'd say that the the opening scene, and I will kind of go through the movies, you know, go through the movie not as you know just as as in detail as we can, but in talking about bits and pieces there, but the movies opens the the biggest, you know, right away there's no opening crawl, which was crazy, crazy, right? Because we've now at this point we've had seven movies with an opening crawl. But again, they want to make they want these, they want them to feel different, and they had said beforehand there was no crawl, uh different title sequence, but the movie our introduction to these this world is we meet a younger Galen Urso played by Maz Mickelson, who is the father of who will become kind of I guess our protagonist of the movie Jen Urso. 100%. But this is I think it's 15 years prior to the event to what the friends of the movie that we're gonna watch. So we Galen Urso, who is a former Empire scientist, uh is in hiding, and they he's been found by uh the great director or uh Orson Krennick, played by Ben Mendelssohn. Right, our our favorite, everyone's favorite imperial director out there. Yeah, um he's found and uh just a really good kind of tone-setting scene. I I love this opening scene. Uh Ben I love Krennick. I think he's such a good such a cool character, and I think what they do with him in in Andor is even it just adds more to him than like the the movie. The movie does a great does. It gives gives you a taste of him, a perfect little dollop. Yeah. And um again, and it's it's it's like again, we're I feel like it's just fun you get these actors to come in and do these imperial characters because the characters of the empire, because they're all just like fucking weasels, and they can just you can just be as shitty as you want. Right. And and just have fun with it because they're all pieces of shit. Like yeah, quite literally. I mean, that opening scene in Rogue One is like if you think about that happening to you in real life, it all of a sudden becomes like diabolical. It's not even evil, it's not even like oh that's messed up. Like, no, this is like straight diabolical. Like, you think about what Galen Ursaw went through, having to lock his daughter or hope his daughter makes it into a safe thing, has no idea if she's okay. Yeah, his wife gets shot and killed, and then hey, you're gonna be our slave for the next who knows how long. Yeah, brutal. So Krennick is he he's found him to bring him back to finish his work on what will become the Death Star. And in the ensuing struggle, like you meant, like you already referenced, uh, his wife and Jin's mother is shot and killed. Jin escapes and is goes to a hiding spot where she's discovered by uh Forrest Whitaker Saguerrera, a character from the Clone Wars who is played by first Forrest Whitaker in the movies, and then Forrest Whitaker would then become basically the actor to either voice him or portray him in the games or shows or TV or movies to follow. Yep. Uh and that's our opening, which again, so br you know, tragic origin for Jin Urso. Uh and we cut to 15 years later, and Jin's an adult, she's in pr in an imperial prison. And um, yeah, I'd say this section right here is maybe like the most it can be a bit jarring because we jumped to so many different places. Right and apparently in the original cut, it was even there was even more planets they jumped to, and I think they wisely realize okay, we gotta like we gotta tone it down a bit because we go to like four or five different planets in the first like fifteen minutes. I was gonna say fifteen minutes, yeah. There was they set the they set the grounding for all your main characters. Yeah, because we meet Cassian on Kefreen, and then it's we're cutting to Bodhi Rook, getting captured by Saguerrera's uh Rebels Rebels, and and then we we know we see Jin on we see Jin here, and so it's kind of we're jumping around a lot, and um but I think the introduction stuff with Cassian is the most was was what really had me excited because so Cassian, Andor, played by Diego Luna, is a uh is a rebel spy, and what I love so much about this character in this movie, and then what Andor would even do, take the ball and just run with it, is just showing and what Gareth Edwards, the director, said he wanted to show is he wanted to show that war is dirty, like good doesn't always mean good. Sometimes the good guys are the bad guys, and the bad guys are the good guys, and this movie highlights that so well, especially with this scene with Cassian where he's meeting an informant, Tivik, who's going to give him information on what we will know as a Death Star. They don't know what it is yet, but they know there's something that's a good thing. An ultimate weapon, something. And his his uh his informant is uh gives him the information and young kid, by the way. Great kid, great kid, Tivik, great kid, man. I really liked him in the first, you know, however long it was. Nice guy. Nice guy, nice guy really put the work in for him. Not a bad guy, yeah. Did all the dirty work for him, got him what you know the deal was. And he gets he's a little too nervous and excited, obviously, because he's not a spy. Uh he's and so he gives Aunt Cassian this information and he's uh starts freaking out because he needs to he wants to get he wants to be saved basically because he knows he can't go back to he's can't go back to working for the Empire because they'll be on to him with this leak. And he's freaking out and get captured, gets the attention of some nearby stormtroopers, and Cassian's trying to calm him down, and what happens next Cassian shoots him in the back with his blaster. So showing like oh, like because in the original trilogy, the re the rebel alliance are the goodest of goodest people. They're they can do no wrong. So and the Empire, the evilest of the evil, right? And now we're seeing a rebel a rebel spy shoot an unarmed person in the back. Literally, well, I mean, you it's like you said at the very at the very start of us talking about the movie, right? Is this isn't a Star Wars movie, this is a wars movie in the stars. And at the end of the day, when you're when you're a spy, I guarantee you, especially now that we have Andor and we know who Cassian is a lot more, he didn't want to kill him. No, but his cover's about to get blown because you're freaking out and you won't calm down. Well, my life is worth more because I have this info now. Yeah, which is a crazy thing to wrap your head around in what again, the first 15-20 minutes of the movie, you see, you know, the head rebel in the movie kills uh unarmed civilian. We expect this to be the hero one of our heroes. Right. And he is, and he is, yeah, but they get their hands dirty, and all these characters do, a lot of most of them. And um, and yeah, I mean, Cassian, I think, even leaving this movie I found to be probably the most interesting character of as far as like the squad, like the the rogue one team. Um clearly, obviously, because he begets his own. I mean, there are I love all of the characters in the team. I'm bad. The only one that I think might have Cassian beat, I'm blanking on his name, played by Don Ien. Um, truitt. Truitt, thank you. Yeah, um, simply him because yeah, you know, oh man. I just uh that's actually one way I it would be cool to have. I'm sure there's not enough story on him, but a spin-off movie on him just because that was such a unique character. Absolutely. Oh no, I mean, yeah, he he I would not be mad to see Don Ien in a prequel, you know. Oh my god. Him and him and his homie with Baze, I think, uh just whatever their job, the guardians of the wheels, the temple. Like, I would love to see them coming up, training and all of that. That'd be such a cool thing. And but yeah, I remember when they cast Don In in this movie, like, oh fuck. Like, he's so I come from I come from a big karate household. My uncle's 15 time defending USKA world champion uh for karate. Um so he's actually met Donnie N. Donnie's a black belt and actually really big in the karate, but does movies obviously now. And so when Donnie got cast, my entire I mean, we got the my my uh grandparents and my uncle own a dojo. The dojo went to watch this movie together and rented out a movie theater simply because of Don Ien. And I was sitting there like on both sides. I'm like, y'all here for Yen. I like Star Wars and him. So but yeah, Andor was definitely like when it comes to the how deep his character goes, especially now that we know more. We didn't know, which almost made him seem I would almost say I didn't like him in the first 15, 30 minutes, whatever it is of the movie, because that's how they wanted it. But now with where he's at, yeah, talk about one of the deepest characters of Star Wars. Yeah, I mean, I mean, there was definitely a lot left on the plate with him at when the movie ended, but I think his arc in the movie is the most fascinating uh as far as as far as Rogue One. Now, when I watched and I I rewatched it, uh I rewatched the movie last week, and it's hard to watch this movie without because Andor has like totally recontextualized this movie. Like, I can't watch this movie now without thinking of Andor, and that's a good thing. Andor has made this movie so much better than I already believed it was. Uh from my perspective, it made everything, at least that Andor did, calculated, and it made him seem so much like more precise in what he did. Because in the you know, in the when you first see him, it's like you don't know what he's him shooting uh Tivik. It's like, dude, that could have just been out of panic and everything, but no, that was a cold-blooded decision that he knew needed to happen. I mean, even in in the as the movie goes on, there's looks that he get Cassian gives to characters when things he knows he has to do things and related, like when the mission with Galen, or just thing like there's just looks that he gives, or there's this little small, subtle things that he says referencing his life prior to the movie, and now that we know what that life really is, you're like, oh fuck, like you know, obviously at the time they're doing this, they're not they don't have that story back like written out, written up. You know, maybe there's little nuggets of it that they gave him, but right it's it wasn't we didn't have Andorra. She just has a character sheet. That's uh that's where where they're at with it. Um yeah, I mean again that and and and and we see it as the movie goes on. We see that, and you know, and we're gonna keep we're gonna keep talking about Andor because you can't not, you know there's no way to talk about Rogue Wan and not talk about Andor, but what you see here and what you would see later in the show is again, we go into this, we went into this movie, into these movies that again the Rebel Alliance are the goodest of good, they're pure, they're the good, they're fighting the good fight against the evil forces. And in this movie, we're learning that okay, like the Rebel Alliance, it's a mess. There are people there, you know, there are people that hate the Empire, but that does that doesn't mean that they're good people, right? Just means they don't want to be oppressed by the Empire. Yep. And you see that with a character like Saguerera. I was about to say, I mean, he's a literal terrorist, yeah, undeniably, a literal terrorist to civilians just as much as the Empire. Yeah, I mean they call him they call him uh an extremist, is what he's called by the other his other rebellious. By the actual rebels, yeah. And and what this movie alludes to, and then what again what Andor dives super deep into, is that there are so many different factions of the re of the rebellion that a lot of times they don't even know. Who they're working for or with, and Sa is someone who has uh yeah, an extreme an extremist group of rebels who will do whatever it takes to defeat the Empire, even if it means putting innocent people in harm's way. We we saw in that first uh explosion strike and that uh first fight on Jeddah in town on in Jeddah. I mean, I don't know if you a lot of people didn't catch it, but in that first explosion, it's that go flying with the stormtroopers. And people I had a couple friends where they even at the end of Rogue One, they were like, Yeah, but the rebels at least like even Saw Guerrero's rebels weren't as bad as you're making scene. I'm like, Did you not see little Timmy go flying across the screen? They were gonna get kids killed. Yeah, like they and they were the ones who pulled and they are looking at it happening and going, No, we're gonna do it anyways because it's the message that needs to be sent. Yeah, so we meet Saw when he's introduced to Bodhirok. Bodhir Rook, played by Rizumed, great actor who I love. Uh yeah, he's phenomenal. Uh is he's a defected imperial pilot who has a message from Galen or so, Jin's father. So we've cut, we've run, we're now we're 15 years from the opening scene, and we're kind of meeting all we're meeting some of the characters again, getting the pieces in place. And Bodhi Rook's captured by Sagarera's forces. Galen sent him there to meet Sagarera because Galen and Sagarera have a relation, a past relationship. Yep, Sagarera was the one that got Jinn out of the safe bunker, you could call it. Yeah, and then now Jin, who's being transferred from her whatever Imperial Prison Camp she was at, gets rescued by the rebels. And this is our great introduction to K2SO when she she we learned we're we see about Jin. Like she's kind of she's running away from the fight. She wants nothing to do with the fight, the rebellion against the Empire. She's aware of the rebellion. She was running with Saw's group for a while, and then Saw abandoned her, seemingly. So she's just on her own. She's out for herself, and when the rebels free her from her from her binds, she attacks them, attempts to escape the rebels, and then we get the great clothes lined. K2 slams her to the ground, and the just one of the best, like he's one of the best droid characters in the franchise, easily. Easily three. He's up there with R2 and like BBA. Like he's up there with the greats, like easily. It's so good. Like his dry, witty delivery, like because it's just how he's he's a so K2SO is a is an Imperial droid that was reprogrammed by Cassian. And remember, it's a it's uh the prison droids as well. Yeah, because the prison droids are extra mean and extra dry in comparison to like you know, you look at the Separatist B2 battle droid, yeah, or not the B2, the standard uh uh orange clankers, I guess. Um the Roger Rogers. Roger Rogers, yeah, a little idiots, yeah. Yeah, and that's one thing Star Wars is good, is even all the droids, you know, that are mass-produced, they all have different personalities based on that thing. And yeah, like you said, you're gonna reprogram a dry prison droid with uh a little bit of his own humor. And they try to make him, you know, they try to make him presentable to you know, for uh for people to be around, but it's he still can't beat his pr original programming. And um, so he yeah, he like you said he closed lines generous on the ground, and then his first line is congratulations, you are being rescued. What fucking great intro to that character. Uh, and so now it and then so so Jin is brought to Yavin for. So this is another this is a great, like, oh shit, fans of the OG, we're at the original Rebel Base, the original Rebel Base. They've recreated it perfectly, and we meet uh we get to meet Mon Mothma, who is you know, really cool story how she was cast in Revenge of the Civ to play a young Mon Motma from the original trilogy. That scene gets ends up getting cut, so she was really in a deleted scene, and they basically bring her back because they're like, You'd look just like the actress who played her in the original movies, like and you're good. So they bring her back for Rogue One, she has a small part in Rogue One, but then fucking gets to cook at Andor. I mean, I mean well that's the thing. It's like every time she touched the screen, it was like some of the better scenes in the show, and she was so good with her delivery of her character that it was like I feel like once they started doing Andor, how can you how can you given the fact that you have the Rebel spy, who's gonna command him? It's almost it's almost kind of frustrating in a way to watch Rogue One after watching Andor, because I'm like, God, like that character, uh Cassian superior in this movie, Mel She, like the character like, man, like I why can't they get a little more in the movie because they get because you know they end up getting much more in the show, but I'm just like, oh man, like you guys like it's like you guys knew what you had, but you didn't use them the way you like the way that they would get used. You're like, oh these guys are just came like but they what they have in the movies good, and like they're again they're not the movie's not about them. Right. I would have watched it if it was two and a half hours. That's all I'm saying. Y'all could have thrown another 30, 45 minutes. I would have been okay. Uh yeah, and again, it's a movie, they they've gotta get to the stuff, they gotta get they gotta get to their plot. Like, right, you got a TV show, you get several hours to get to be with these characters. One thing I will say is before I tell everyone this with Rogue One is you gotta get to the hallway scene. And if you know, you know. No, that was absolutely you know what I mean? That's like literally, they've had a couple friends look over and they're like, movie's good, but what was the scene you were talked about? It hasn't happened. I'm like, bro, just wait. You'll know the scene I'm telling you about once we get there. Um, so we we get the the gist of the story is uh they've they're aware of the defected pilot that Sagrera has captured, uh, who has a message from Galen Urso. I think the funniest part about Bodhi getting captured is he doesn't even realize necessarily like it was a very comedic moment because he's genuinely like a good guy. He's being treated like scum as an imperial, right? And he doesn't even know if he's captured by Saguerra's group. They put a bag over his head, they aren't talking to him, and you know, when they start talking to him finally, he's like, I'm looking for Saw Guerrera, and then you know, they're like, Well, why do you want to know that? And they don't tell him that that's who has him. And so at the end of the day, they end up throwing the bag back on his head, and he's as he's getting dragged off, he's like, Are we going to see Saw Guerrera? So out of the loop. And the thing too is we say he's a defected Imperial pilot. He's not he's not a he's not piloting TIE fighters or or X-Wings. Like, he's he's he's a cargo pilot, he just delivers shit. You know, he just he's just it's a job that he has to do that he, you know, it doesn't mean that he's a bad guy or he agrees with, it's just it's like it's like where we are now. Like, just because you work for Amazon doesn't mean you hate the world, right? It's like I was gonna say he's an Amazon driver working for the Empire, like he's not Jeff Bezos, he doesn't he doesn't mean he agrees with what Jeff Bezos has to do. He's on a 12-month contract with the Empire, okay? He's gonna be done for months. Literally, that that's that's the game. It's like and it's like the Empire has the galaxy in a chokehold. Like, either you work for them or every anything you do outside of it, it's illegal. I was gonna say it's either illegal or there's no money in it, hence why it's either you're a criminal or you're broke living on Jeddah. I think in like deleted scenes they reference, and I think there's like there's even like a additional there was a a prequel a book, there was a prequel book to the prequel rogue one called Catalyst, where I think it talks about how I think he has like he has a family. So I believe like he's you know he took the job to provide for his family. I want to say he even says it in the movie. I want to say when he's getting tortured by Saw and his crew, he says, like, guys, I have a family. I believe as everyone pleads, as you should, which even sucks for him. Cause like you said, you want to talk about who might actually be one of the best people in the movie when it comes to like the scale of our how good and bad, he's probably one of the guys who risk the most. Right. And you know, literally, yeah, it and it the family we're talking about, right? Right. Um, so and then yeah, and then one of the big scenes after this is when we re-re we're reintroduced to Gars and Krennick. I think in I think in the opening scene, he's not director, but in now in the 15-year time jump, he's now director Krenick. You know that yeah, he's leading he's the weapons development, you know, basically director. He's in charge of getting the Death Star online. Yep, he is he is the Death Star, as he says later. Yeah, and this is where we get one of the big surprises of the movie where we we introduced to a character from the original movie, uh Tarkin. You know, played by an actor who died. Right. Uh and so this wasn't like no one knew this was coming. Like, I I don't think this was out there, and they recreate this character, this actor with special effects. And this was a big this was a really controversial thing when it happened in the in Rogue One. Like people were like very like, ah, like and you know the the directors and Lucas when they got permission from the actor's estate. Right. They it wasn't like they did it without permission, like the the family was compensated, they gave their approval. Um well one thing I heard that uh was they they wouldn't do it if the families like if they if the actor or the family said that it's not what the actor would have wanted, they wouldn't they wouldn't have allowed it to happen. They would have shut it down and like we're sorry for asking, but you know, to see it's even to me, I feel like it's paying homage at the end of the day. If I died and I was in Star Wars, put me back in. Like get my family paid. Yeah, get my family paid and put me back in one of the greatest franchises out there. Yeah, so we get we see Tarkin. Um, and honestly, like I mean, it's not perfect, and obviously, we've still even today we still have not figured this out on how to CG a person, like we can't do it yet. Not perfect, still very but it I I think some shots in the movie do look good. Yeah, um, so you know, I think I I do think maybe he's in it a little bit too much. I obviously I understand why he's in it because you know he's a central figure in this era of Star Wars. I was gonna say it's a it's a bummer that he passed before the movie got a film because it's like this was his this is where he was number one right or number two. It was him and Vader that was yeah, like he was you know, he's like in the original movie, like he's everybody's afraid of Vader, and Tarkin's like, like that's because they're technically right next to each other, and uh yeah. Tarkin's like, you're not my superior, like you're my like you're my coworker. Right, which what might there might be less than three people who have ever looked at Darth Vader and felt that way actually, yeah, so and also survived and not been force-choked, but yeah. Um, but yeah, so he's a huge presence on the Empire. He's one of the you know, yeah, he's right there. Oh, he's I mean, the only people above him at this point are Palpatine and Vader. Yeah, and again, even Vader is not really above him, he's just just more powerful than him when it becomes a shotgun. Yeah, but yeah, Tarkin does not back down from him. So it makes sense to have the character in there. You can make the argument, like maybe just recast. But you know, they made a choice. I think I think for the most part it works. You know, me again, I think maybe he's probably in it a little bit too much just because of the effects, like they, you know. But uh all things considered, and for this movie being 10 years old, when I rewatched it recently, I'm like, you know what, it doesn't look awful. It doesn't look awful, and uh, I know what you're saying about they might have put him in a little bit too much. I think because of how, like we said earlier, how big he is in there, it was like almost the perfect amount. Yeah, it was any more and it would have been a problem, and any less, and I feel like it would have I don't want to say a disservice to him necessarily, but a disservice to Star Wars, just because again, of how big of a thing he is, and yeah, um, even even when you look at like uh Krenik, I don't know how many books you've read, but Krenik is terrified of Tarkin, how everyone else is, and so I feel like if Krenik would have ended up looking more like Tarkin, you know, Krenik is Krennick until Darth Vader or Tarkin standing like everyone else in the Empire, he shrivels up into a shell of a man. Yeah, so um yeah, so that from here on we get the mission that they need to rescue the pilot, get the message from Galen, they're aware that there's some sort of weapon because they've gotten Cassian's report back from Tivik, and they they believe Bodhi has mess a message. Um Jin discovers that her father's alive because she believes at this point that he's that he was dead. Right. Um so now she's been and because she has a connection to Sagarera, there's that's why she's a recruiter for a mission, this mission and sent to Jeddah to go rescue the pilot or to set a meet with Saguerrera and get the message from Galen Ursa from the pilot in secret, and or can't Cassian's told that this is not a rescue mission for Galen, like he's to be killed on site. He's building the Death Star, kill this man and delay the project. Yeah, yeah. And they go to Jenna. I just want to say, because one thing I haven't shared with you yet. I'm uh I if I had to choose a side, I'm I'm my side. I'm on the Sith side every day of the week. Okay. Um your dark side. Yeah, every every day of the week. The Jedi are weak. Regardless, um You're not wrong. They are the Jedi are idiots. Yeah, yeah. Um regardless, that was one thing that it was really interesting about uh Andor was again, we've we've touched on it multiple times, them showing that the rebels aren't good. Because especially, you know, I'm jumping a little bit ahead, but especially once you have every if you're a good guy, it's a rescue mission, and you guys didn't even give it a chance to be a rescue mission. It's an assassination mission from the as someone who's really into real life war movies, you can't afford to allow that to be a rescue mission and go wrong or be wrong on Galen, and he is a bad guy, you have to kill him. So it kind of goes back to what we're saying where it wasn't this is a war movie before anything. Yeah, I mean again, it's it just shows the line that Cassian walks on is that he he's the trigger man for the for the rebels, basically. And without hesitation and quick. And he and he does it, like you said, with no with no hesitation, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't eat at him. No hesitation and no remorse are two different things, right? Right, right. And the movie show highlights this, but in the show just again shows it to a whole poo whole new point. And yeah, it's gonna be annoying when we keep talking about the show, but we just there's no no way around it. But um just means you guys gotta go watch the show. Absolutely. Uh so now we're on Jeddah, and yeah, really cool to see a sh a town under Empire oppression. We've got the Star Destroyer above the town, Jeddah. Jet we Jetta is the home of where you find the kyber crystals, which are construct a light uh Jedi or Sith's lightsaber. Um and the Empire has been mining these because uh I don't think it's not in the original movie, but like in in the added lore, like the books and the comics, it was then discovered or told that the the the thing that powers the Death Star are kyber crystals. So the Empire basically mined all kyber crystals, and they needed all of them for what the Death Star was. Yes. Yeah, and so the Death Star is essentially a giant lightsaber laser, is what it what why how it can do what it does. And um, so Jin, and then we're yeah, we're we're we're we're back with K2 SO, who is again the sarcastic, dry witted uh pilot who doesn't doesn't trust Jin for a second, doesn't like Jinn. Uh and honestly. You're giving her a gun? Yeah, and what one of the running gags throughout the entire movie is that K2 wants is wants a gun. He wants to be given a blaster, and they won't give him one. Uh and he doesn't like Jin. Like he doesn't like doesn't trust Jin, doesn't like Jin. So they reach Jeddah. And yeah, even Jin and Cassian are kind of at odds. You know, Cassian looks at Cassian hates Jin because she he thinks she's a coward, he thinks she's you know running from running from the fight. And and honestly, and then again they're polar opposites when they meet. Right, and but then again, when you watch Andor, you realize, oh, he was Jinn. He is Jinn in the beginning of the show. He's run he's running from the fight, he's avoiding it, and then only when he becomes, you know, he then he joins the fight and he becomes like but at that point he's he's been so ingrained within the rebellion for several years that it's like he he's can he can imagine somebody ignoring the problem in the galaxy like her, and he just well, and I will say in Rogue One at this point, he's so I don't want to say like asleep, but he's so like one gear. Right. Like at this point, he is it's the rebellion or nothing, I'm nothing but a trigger man. And when you watch the show, rightfully so, because you see how he got but at that point it's very much so. Like you said, he looks at Jin and goes, You're not Paige, you're against me, I can't deal with it. Yeah, literally, he cannot stand her. No, not at all. And walks walks out of the they're in a spaceship stuck together, and he's walking away from her somehow. Yeah, he just he just can't stand to be around her to talk to her, and yeah, they're on Jeddah, and they instruct K2 to stay with the ship. They're gonna go try to find Saw, and they enter the and they enter the town, and we get our first glimpse of Donnie Yen's churro and uh his his uh companion Baze Malbus, who are former guardians of the Guardians of the Wills, which are the Temple of the Jedi. Yep. Um Baze is like a he's just like he's a gun, a gunman. He has a big like mini gun blaster essentially. With auto aim, yeah. Super fly. Uh and Donnie Yentin's character, Shirut, is a he's kind of like a force monk, basically. He's not forced, he can't use the force, but he feels the force, and he's a blind badass, basically. He is one with the force, right? Very much so one with it, but can't use it. Very much believes in the force. Baze, his partner at one point did, but has given up on the force because of the state of the galaxy and just basically kind of is at this point disillusioned. Crazy, crazy blind old man is what he calls Shirut all the time. Yeah, and Trut uh references how like, oh, this guy was even a bigger believer than I was at one point. Um, so clearly he's just he's fallen from grace because of what has become of and rightfully so. The fact Cher's still holding strong shows, you know, the emotion of the stuff. The movie doesn't really reference it, but I mean it's you know maybe the and or doesn't talk about it a ton because they don't really talk about the Jedi and Sith, but I think for someone like them, it's like they've lived to serve the Jedi Order, and the Jedi Order is basically the r the reason for the downfall of the Sith because they were so blinded by their own hubris, they were lost, they were lost on their own sauce, they were high on their own supply. They thought they were incorruptible, that they could not, that they were the highest of highest beings. And this is what the last Jedi definitely referen like talks about a lot. But it's true. Um, and even the one of the later shows, the Acolyte, kind of even gets into a lot of the Jedi being their own downfall because they just think they're so they're not they're just nothing can affect them. Right. Uh they can't be beat, they can't be, they can't lose. Uh nothing can get past them. Um that they're squeaky clean and they're not, you know. And I think that's probably kind of a lot of what Bayes is going through. He's like, dude, I freak I gave my life to these guys, and what did I get in return? They they they failed, they left, they're gone. Quite literally, yeah. They ruined the universe, arguably. Or like they didn't single-handed, but they allowed the universe to get ruined by their own blindness. Right. Uh, and um, so yeah, and then this is this is where we get we our characters meet Saw's extremist uh rebels. Which by the way was played 10 out of 10. Oh my god. Saw was just great scene. It's this is the like this is like the first, I guess, like because again, a lot of the action sequences we have seen in Star Wars up until then have been these very grand, epic space fights, lightsaber duels, um, big V, you know, 8080s versus X-Wings, like it's just these big epic sci-fi space opera fight scenes. Space opera, I've never heard that before. That's a great usage for talking about. And um, and what Rogue One does, like this, especially this action sequence, and what and then what it'll do in the third, all the stuff on scarif is like fucking orgasmic, but what yeah, what but what this scene and what I love so much is we're finally getting like a grounded this is the this is a war scene, this is Blackhawk Down. Yeah, essentially. 100% and um there is a Imperial transport going through the town, stormtroopers on their vehicles, and they're ambushed by Saw's rebels, and Cassian and Jinn see this, and it's a it's a it's a brutal fight scene shootout uh where they're they've got them in a in a killbox, basically. The the rebels have the empire in a killbox and Jinn and Cassian have to kind of fight their way through it, and but this is where we see the the violence and the the the the lengths that Saw's group in particular are willing to go to to just destroy the Empire because they're putting innocent civilians in harm's way. Yep. Um like you like you said before, there's people there's just regular people flying back from the explosion. Like they're they're they're they're engaging the Empire with no with no remorse, and basically whoever's in the way full force ahead and get out the way. And if you're in the way, you're in the way. Yeah, that's it. You're in the way. And Jin, then it's you know, we and we see the gray area of the rebellion, right? These guys are supposed to be on the same side. They're both they're everyone here is against the empire, and yet Jinn is shooting at Sa's Men because in an effort to save a small child, uh, Cassian's killing uh Sa's men, they're shooting at Jinn. To save Jinn, yeah, right. So it's it's a whole bunch of things. Well, yeah, how many do they kill? Do they kill? I think they actually kill like two or three of them. They kill like two or three of Saws men. One of Saws guys was throwing a grenade and then two were shooting. Yeah, which is why Sa is so pissed off too when they come across because he's like, You you know, and uh yeah, just a great scene. I remember watching it like, oh wow, like heavily there's a lot to take in. Yeah, you really don't get we we especially up until that point, but even since then, we have not gotten a ton of actions like that in Star Wars. It was very, very much the vibe that Gareth Edwards said he was going for as far as making a war movie, right? Um, and that's what it felt like. This is the one spot where I will say this is where the Disney influence hurts, in my opinion, because I feel like Disney will always hesitate to show the dark thing, uh-huh, if that makes sense. And like that was a scene where you know, I'm sure at the end of the day, you get rid of the kid the kid and them shooting uh soft people to save the kid. You get rid of the innocent people flying in the back. The scene doesn't feel like a black hawk down scene anymore, it doesn't feel like a killbox scene because it's softer than it should be. This would be the grittiest, most like disgusting thing that you can see from these moments. I think that was a big surprise for people too, because everybody expected that it was just gonna be a Disney safe movie, and people walked out of it like, oh wow, like they kind of went there and they weren't like they let them do, and then even some of the behind the scenes stuff with the ending and the fact that all of the characters die, all the main and that initially one of the earlier scripts had had most of them all living right because they were like Disney's not gonna let us kill everybody, that they want uh a franchise, they want toys, they want kids, and that Disney was even like, No, no, this movie's about sacrifice. I always I always tell myself that someone in the writing room went, has nobody seen Game of Thrones? And like this is what people want. And everyone kind of sat there and went, Game of Thrones was really high-rated. The Red Wedding is one of the highest rated Rotten Tomatoes episodes of all time. And decided because it's real life isn't sunshine and rain, but it's not a good thing. But it's in that yeah, again, the then the like you said earlier, the the theme of sacrifice is exactly what the writers and director kept hammering about when in making this movie, that this movie is about sacrifice, the greatest sacrifice of all time. And that if we cop out and because there was there was a there was a cut of the movie where they didn't they never filmed it, but there was a script out there that showed Jin and Cassian escaping. Yeah. And people were like, that's that just that seems like a cop-out ending. And that's not what that's and even this Disney, you know, to their credit, was like, this that's not working. And just do what you want to do. I know we're bringing it back to Andor again, but especially in my opinion, after you watch Andor, uh Andor Cassian does not get to die of not happy. Once you once you know everything that one, everything he's been through, not hating on the man, makes sense. But when you look at everything he's done, you don't get to you don't deserve the sunshine and rainbows ending. You can't. That's too good. So yeah, and so so yeah, and and this again, so now they're captured by uh yeah. Well, so after the shootout, they're cornered by Jin and Castine are cornered by uh several stormtroopers. There's the funny scene where one of the Imperial droids who is a sim the similar line of K2SO and Jin shoots it right away and then and then K2SO appears behind it. It was like, how did you know how did you know that wasn't me? Did you know that wasn't me? She's kind of like uh Yeah, great, great bit. And then we uh we see some of the the uh the how lethal K2SO actually is because as he's being attacked by uh stormtroopers, he's he's catching you know thermal detonators and just like you know throwing them back like he's like you know, he he's he's dangerous because that's and so and we see the brutality of them that brand of droid in Andor for sure, but uh but here it's it's cool to see like he's smacking stormtroopers like you know going flying several feet away. Yeah, it's great. And uh as they get surrounded by uh stormtroopers and K2SO fails to uh make them believe that he's taken them as prisoners, right? They're rescued by uh Charut and Baze. A great great scene because now we need to highlight Don In's martial arts ability. Oh man, no stunt man needed, just put him in. Tell him. Give the man a pole, give the man a stick, and he'll do what he needs to do. Literally great sequence, and yeah, you could argue like, oh, like you know, how is he taking out Stormtroopers with a don't worry about it? That's how he's doing it. Yeah, I was gonna say it's Don Ian, and uh at the end of the day, when you finish the movie, you understand how he did, and it's because he's not using the force, but he is one with the force, and you know, as you know, I heard someone say that the whole Donnie and his character were plot plot armed, and that's the wording they use. And I looked at him and I could just tell you don't know what Star Wars is. Because if you if you're truly a fan of Star Wars and you understand Star Wars, Star Wars is the force and the force is Star Wars, and that is the story is it's the story of the force that's what we're w watching, yes, and uh yeah, that was that opening scene when I saw it. It was so it was so cool to see a perfect depiction of what the force is because yes, it's a little corny and a little cheesy, but it was very realistic and possible. And I think that showed no two things. One, Donnie Yen and his character are one of the strongest, you know, beings we've seen. Maybe not when it comes to his powers, but his ability and what he can do and his belief, and he believes in it, and the force believes in him. And it just it again it shows another level of like you can believe in the force and be one with the force. Doesn't necessarily mean you can move things with your we can move things with the force or do like crazy leaps or do mind tricks, but it just means you know it just shows a different side of being force sensitive. And that's what I was gonna say for the second thing is you being able to see such a strong force user believer, but they aren't, you know, I said earlier, there's no Jedi until last minute. And so when you show this to someone, it's like, hey, no Jedi, they aren't picking up boxes and throwing them no force token, but you still see the force in its full aspect through this character at the least. So great sequence of him taking out several stormtroopers, and then you know, he gets surrounded, and then Baze shows up for the last second save with his auto aim assist. Aim bot mini. Um and now so they they're saved for a second, and then Sa's forces uh capture them. Great gag from Don In where they put a bag over his face because Cherut is a blind, he's a blind character. They put a bag put a bag over his face, and he's like, Are you serious? I'm blind. I'm blind. I remember that getting a huge laugh in the theater. I'm like, that's a good, that's a good joke. Whole theater lit up. Yeah, that's a great one. And um and now as the characters beat Sa's men, Bodhirk is uh they they get him, they're imprisoned because of them killing several of Sa's men. Saw and at this point, Sa Guerrera is a he's a lunatic, really. He doesn't trust anybody. He's so high off of uh I think it's Rydal, I think is what it is. He's been huffing for for several years. Who knows how long? Um he likes the burn. Yeah, he's uh he's a pair, he's a paranoid, just insane person at this point. Which one thing I don't know, I don't know how much you know about Saw, but he's always right, which is the thing that like why he had such a following. Like every time he would turn and kill his left-hand man and he had no proof, they would find the proof, and it was like, Yeah, you're paranoid, but you're always right. Yeah, no, he was, and it made it so people kept following him because of that. Yeah, and obviously, as he and and if you look into Saw's character, he's got a pretty tragic backstory. Uh a lot of Empire just done did him very, very dirty. Uh, and he has his reasons for being the way he is. He's not just a lunatic, he's not just a crazy person. He wasn't like that the entire time. It's just that the drugs are catching up to him. He was always a little extreme, but he was pushed to extreme lengths, and then of course, as his as he's gotten older, and the longer he's had to he's had to fight and get his hands dirty, and the physically he's uh shell of a man at this. Yeah, but he's hooked up to a you know rebreather, can barely breathe on. Yeah, he's even mentioned like he's barely a man at this point. Uh he's more machine than man. Ultimately, at the point we find him. So there's a definitely a lot to that character that's um really interesting to look like the the books and then in the clone wars, and then I think he even comes in rebels as well. So good, there's a lot of good stuff with him, and then of course when he comes back in Andor, there's even there's great stuff there. But um really cool character, and um obviously he connects with Jin, he recognizes Jin. We get their their reunion where he explains like that the she's uh bitter towards him because he abandoned her years prior, and he he says that we we get a little bit of uh he emotion from him where he he um explains like you know, I abandoned you to save you because you know you were the daughter of an imperial of an imperial scientist. Like had the word got out, like they would have killed you. And I couldn't have done anything about it. Yeah, so he's like he I left you because I love you, basically. And he and it's a touching moment between between the two of them, and then he rev he gives Jin the message from her father. So now we're this is the first time she has seen her father in 15 years, whom she's believed is dead, and Galen's explaining to he's addressing he basically makes the message to Jin. Right, and explains that and then this is one this is one of the smartest things this movie does. A decades-long plot hole or complaint or nitpick from Star Wars fans is in a new hope. Luke, you know, the the whole way he destroys the Death Star is Luke. Uh, you know, he's able to get the it's the they have the plans, and and they said there's there's this one little hole, a shaft in the Death Star that if we can get uh a blast in there, it'll destroy straight the room. You're telling me you got the biggest, baddest weapon, and you left this one little shaft that one rocket goes down and blows up the entire thing. Well, I did it on purpose. But yeah, then that was a huge nitpick in and after I mean, just it's been like a running gag, like oh, like they this you know, probably trillions of dollars of of uh of credits or whatever, like this insane military installation like big building, and there's this little shitty there's this there's a hole in it. Ventilation shaft that you could if you get a straight to the core, you get one bat blaster down there, it'll destroy the entire this entire this death machine. Yeah. And that was oh, it's always been like a running back get like gag and like big I would argue the biggest hole in the in the uh original trilogy. And uh and this movie basically Sealed the hole does away with it, does away with it. Like basically, boom, like and so Galen Urso explains that he says because yes, he's he was forced to work and build the the Death Star, but that he said he's like I did what nobody expected me to do. I listened, I complied. Yep. I so he got to work, and he's like, but you know, I did it because if they I he said basically if I hadn't done it, they would have got somebody else. And then that somebody else wanted to left this little secret shaft I'm trying to tell you guys about. Yes, so he secretly yeah, created the shaft where if they can get something down there, it could just it could disrupt the reactor, destroy the whole Death Star. So Galen's the reason why Luke destroys a Death Star in the first movie, why they have that option in the first place. Um crazy shit. I remember like like a lot of like this like podcasts for like YouTube shows I used to watch, like they're like, oh my god, they're like this fucking movie just like like shut up nerds of for like the like the like 40 years of arguments. Literally, yeah, literally just shut them up. People people have gotten into fights over is this like stupid or is this how it should have been? Like, no, it's just this convenience of of this of story in a new hope has now been oh, yeah, because the guy who built it was really against the empire and sabotage. That was his this was his last way to get back at the empire, right? Uh great, like just great little nugget, right there. So simple, like such a I mean, that's also one of the nuggets why I tell people to watch Rogue One. And if I'm actually like, if I care and I really want you to take care, you go Rogue One and then the original trilogy. Absolutely. Because Rogue One somehow manages to fill so many of those, you know, absolutely. Absolutely. Uh, and you know, great scene where we're seeing Felicity Jones like you know, showing off her why she's an Academy Award nominated actress, you know, her her reaction to seeing her father, and it's a really emotional scene. And so again, he he reveals this to her. It's a holog it's a hologram message, and as all this is happening, the Krenick and the Empire have transported the Death Star to Jeddah, and because they know some they know that something they do, they know the pilot is that is on Jeddah, so they're going to do a weapons test on Jeddah as as a cover to one destroy the city and kill the pilot in in an effort to a mining explosion, and so they do a they just like a fraction of Death Star's the Death Star's power terrible scene that destroys the entire city. So this happens as the characters are captured in Saw's cave, and now it's it's a and one key he um Saw did not give Jin the uh hologram, he played it on his little uh display uh table, whatever you want to call it. And so now when this is coming, all of a sudden Cassian rushes Jin out of there, but they rush out to live, and when it's in the ship, do you have the hologram? And she goes, No, he played it for me. So now it's her word, who this is her father, and the spy is looking at her, going, Oh well, I didn't see it. Who else saw it? And everyone just looks at her. Yeah, so the two, yeah, so yeah, so they escape, the Rogue One crew escapes. Jin, Cassian, Bodie, K2, uh, Chira, and Baze are now on the ship. They head back to Yavin. Uh Krenik is being applauded for his weapons test, and then Tarkin's basically like I run it now, that was me. This is my Death Star. And then Tarkin kind of tells him, like, basically, that they're he reveals to him like that Galen Urso is likely that there is a leak from the facility that Galen Urso is at currently. So Credit goes to investigate, and this is when we get this his scene with uh Vader. Yeah. Um, so this is so this was a big thing when it was announced that Vader was gonna be in the movie. Right. Um you know, this is the first time we're seeing Vader in live action since Revenge of the Sith. Yep. He's been in the animated, he's was in Rebels. Yep. Had Rebels gotten there yet? I think Rebels had gotten there, yeah. Got into Vader, yeah. Yeah, at least he's gonna be able to get the other one. He's in like season two, I think. I think he comes out in season two. Yeah, he shows up early for not a lot, he ends up being more later. Later at the end. But I remember, yeah, he does have a he has a fight with Ahsoka, I think, or Canaan. Yeah, so Ahsoka and Canaan, yeah. Yeah, so uh we had seen him in animated stuff, he's in video games, but we had not had a live action Vader since 2000 with Revenge of the Sith. And even then, we don't get anything, we get uh he just yells, like we don't get any action sequences with Vader in the prequels. So that was like one of the big cop-outs, too of the prequel trilogy. Right, and the way that they started showing him in this one, where it's just like you could tell, you knew the second the scene started, you could tell by the background music, the lighting, and everything. If you knew Star Wars, you just knew like we're in the chamber. And sure enough, the camera slowly to talk to Kranic. Like, oh my so cool. People were on Mustafar, or he's his castle, yeah. Uh just stuff from like the comics, like it just such a cool, like just nerd shit. Like, yeah, all the books we've read about Vader's castle, you're actually looking at it now, like, oh yeah, his servants, like just great stuff, and and the fact he's still uh same thing I saw, a shell of a man and more machine than man. Yeah, there's barely there's nothing left. This is like Peak Vader at this point. This would be when he's strong, like Anakin is even at his strongest. Because at this point, he does he's not aware of Luke or Leah's that they're alive. So he's just he's just evil. It's just Vader, it's just Peak Vader. Young, young Vader. Yeah, and uh just yeah, I mean an awesome sequence where Krenik basically is there to whine about Tarkin. Uh Vader doesn't want to want to hear it, tells him that he needs to go handle seal, get get his shit in order because gives him a little squeeze of the neck from across the room to a mouth. Gives him a the one-liner, the careful not to choke on your aspirations. Uh so you Vader's hitting hitting him with his zingers. Yeah. Um, but just exciting to see him and excited to see him, and I remember watching, like, oh, they better do something. There has to be one more. Like, they can't just bring Vader in for that one thing. At the my first viewing of it, I'm like, they have to they're gonna do something else with them. They gotta do something else with them. Oh, yeah. And then they leave it alone for so long. Yeah, they don't go back to him. The movie ends, and you're like, I thought I was gonna get more Vader. Yeah, yeah, it's an hour and 14 minutes in the movie when we when we finally see him. I think the movie's like 2.15. Yeah. So there's an hour left, and we're like, uh, so much ends up happening in this last, like this last hour after this sequence, after this next sequence with Galen, basically the movie's just on cooking with gas, the entire 45 minutes is just everything for like like you said, the entire like Black Hawk Down of Scarf. Like once that whole operation starts being planned, it's just like probably the last hour, 45 minutes. It's just yeah, propane is on. Yeah, and so now they're gonna um yeah, so as this is happening, the the Rogue One crew they return to base, and nobody and then they they need to go, they want or no, before they go back to base, they're gonna go try and rescue Galen because uh Bodhi reveal or I think Bodhi reveals where he's where he is. So they go to that planet, and it's a working facility where Galen's being held captive to work, uh, basically, and they're headed there as well as Krenick. So they're both heading towards the same planet, and Cassian's able to get a message to the Alliance about where they're going, what they're doing, that they can they're gonna go find Galen and again is told kill him, kill on site. Yep. Uh and you can tell he's maybe he doesn't love that order, but is gonna he's gonna follow it. I feel like he was torn because he's trying to figure out if what Jen's saying is actually true. Because this is the most evil guy. They now now they've seen. Now they've seen what Galen made, undeniably. That's right. They he created a planet destroyer. We we watched it destroy the planet. It didn't actually, but like from everything they could see as they pulled off a Jetta, that planet is cooked. Yes, like the rumors and the reports they've heard are now true. And this guy's on our side. That's what you're telling me right now, and again, and in and Cassian questions Jin in the on the in the on the ship where he's like, Did you get the message? And she's like, No, we it was everything happened so fast. And he's like, he told me there's a weakness though in the ventilation shaft, and he's just look, you can just tell by the look on his face, he's so disgusted with the situation. The fact that I feel like he did wanted to believe her, but because of everything he's gone through, he can't believe that. And then he even says, He's like, I'm not the one you have to convince. Boom. Does it doesn't matter what I think? Even if I believe you, it doesn't matter. I I have I I can believe you all day. It does it makes no difference. I'm still gonna pull the trigger. And uh, so now they're gonna head now. The plan is to head to rescue Galen so Galen can direct can present the news to the Alliance. Um, that's the next best thing, and then on on top of that, Cassian's instructor to kill him. So they arrived at that planet, and yeah, and you know, and we get some we get a lot of fights. This is where there's a lot of between Jin and Cassian here where they're at odds because and clearly it's again like you said, it's Cassian, he's struggling with what to do. He he's because he's he he wants to believe her. You could tell he wants to, but he's just he's not wired that way right now. Nope, not at all. He and he we start getting some he he explains to her, like he's he's trying to be he's trying to like convince himself because he tells her, like, oh now you care about this fight all of a sudden. Like now and Cassian's like, I've been in this fight since I was six years old. That's like a really telling line from him. Like, okay, he's been you know on the on the front line since he was a kid, right? Which we see in Andor. Um, but again, yeah, like like really interesting stuff, really interesting stuff from him. And this is where you get a lot of like looks and tones from him, where I'm just like, God, there's just something about that guy, like such an interesting character. And again, to see a rebel hero, quote unquote, who who would if this movie was made in the original trilogy, this would be a he'd be a hero, a knight in shining armor, yeah, or still get your dad. But in here, it's like no, like we're in war, like this is not which is crazy because when you think about it, think about the dudes who got medals in the ceremony. 90% of you didn't deserve them. No, 90% of you are literally like I'm not saying fake rebels, not saying anything that, but like that just shows what was so big about this movie was the sacrifice, the amount that all these people, not just in the sacrifice of their life at the end of the movie, but with him since he was six, what he's put in, and then you look at some of the people that are getting medals at the end, and it's just like ha. Yeah, Rogue One really were they were the rebels, they were the ones that made uh all of our movies happen in reality. So they attempt to rescue Galen. Um Cassian is trying to keep Jin on the boat or on the boat on the ship, and uh he takes Bodhi with him. He's armed, he arms himself, and then we get the Churu explains like that he has that he has a dark because he he's one with the force, and he said that man has a dark cloud following, and then uh K2 kind of sells him out. He's like, he didn't no, I said like they I think Church asks K2, like, what were we here for again? Yeah, well he's like he says something among the lines of like uh He had his I know K2 says he had his he had his rifle and sniper rifle configuration. True it says like who's a killer, like he asks like who that's right, yeah, like capable of killing the cloud of a killer. Something like that, yeah. And then K2's like, he did he did have his rifle and tactical, yeah, and then that's when Jin's like, oh shit. He watches Jin's eyes light up as she steps against everyone's hey no, you can't, she just steps off. I'm going now. So they're now they're traversing the rocky landscape to find Galen. She's trying to get there before Cassian kills him. And at the same time, Krenick arrives to the facility to confront Galen, because at this point he's aware, he's convinced he's been given the tip that some whatever leak came about the plans came from this facility. It's it's Galen and his team. It's one of those. So Krenick confronts Galen, threatens to kill his team. Galen is trying to you know protect them, and Cassian has Galen in his sights, and you know, and eventually decides that he's not gonna kill. But unfortunately, because of the because the rebellion could not get a good wasn't able to communicate clearly with Cassian en route to that planet, they decide they're gonna send in a squadron to ensure the job gets done regardless. Yeah, they had lost communication. They think the ship crashed. Yeah, they think they when they uh they got into like the orbit, like they lost communication because in reality it's silly because they're going to an empire research base, their communications are jammed, which the people on the ship know that they literally say, Oh, our communications are jammed. And I think even uh I think Cassian even makes a comment like it makes sense when they first get to the you know, look at where we are, but then yeah, the rebels they just decided ourselves. Yeah, uh so they sent us they sent a squadron of uh X-Wings in. Um which to see the actual like Y-wing bombers, dude, like in action. We had seen them kind of in the original trilogy, but not with not this level. Well, because even then by the by the time because the prequels don't have any of the original trilogy's ship designs. It's all I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I meant the original trilogy. In the original trilogy, yeah, I meant the prequel trilogy, sorry. Because the prequel trilogy had none of the original ship, the original trilogy designs, it's all sleek, smooth ships, right? And then the sequel trilogy, we get we get some of the X-Wings, like the classic designs. Uh, but now we're in Rogue One, we're seeing these like this the exact replica designs of the original movies, looks so things that we would have they we they couldn't do in the original movies, yeah. So and they that the the fact that like we gotta see them in action because it's one thing when we see them when they're on Yavin and they're all parked there, that was like alright, that was cool. Cool. But to actually watch the what I think it was like three Y Y uh bombers just come down and all drop their torpedoes at the same time was so flat. So they you know, again, showing the the how the re the rebellion getting their hands dirty, they bomb the facility, Galen is which has hostage. This is something that gets overlooked. They just bombed hostages. All those hostages are being held against their will. Yeah. And the rebels decided to just but it's more important to protect the production of the Death Star. Yeah. Than it is to save lives. And then you know it it's it becomes uh an equation. How many, how many people how many rebels will we lose trying to rescue them versus how many will we lose just killing, getting just destroying the facility? Right. You know, and at the end of the day, how many people will we save if we get rid of this guy, whether it's bring him back with us or kill him? One has to be a good thing. And that's a it's a terrible way to think about it, but it's it's it's again, it's they're at war, and that's this is what the real world is, baby. I was gonna say, you go watch Blackhawk Down. This is every one of their conversations in the command center is a math equation. We can't can we can accept the losses of a handful of of our men if it means you know the the how many we save in the long run, far outway. It's like it becomes, yeah, yeah. How do you weigh lives? How do you and it's something you have to do at the end of the day? Yeah, so uh I I love that this shows that, and it's you know, it's heartbreaking because Jin is just about to reunite with her father, and he's he dies in her arms, and now Jin is in the fight at this point, and uh as the as the crew returns back to um Yavin, now Jin is trying to convince the rebellion, the rebel leaders. Uh Mon Mothma, we get Bale Organa come back. I that made me so happy when I saw him. Oh my god. What's one of my favorite scenes in uh all of Star Wars is uh Revenge of the Sift after Order 66 when Bale's at the Jedi Temple and is walking out and all the clone troopers raise their guns and point it, and he said, Oh, and just so non-something he just puts turns and then the kid jack comes out and his reaction to that kid dying is so good. Yeah, such yeah, it's such a again, so cool that we get to bring these actors back because again, the time passing makes sense, they've aged into what the characters would be, right? And to a T. Yeah, you look at him and it's like, Yeah, that's how old you would be right now, quite literally. Great stuff. So it's good to see good to see him there, and um, just yeah, the characters that are there. Jin is trying. Uh Admiral Akbar is is literally it's a trap, is sitting on the like with all the commanders. Yeah, Akbar's there, but then they end up using another guy, Radus is the guy they use uh in the for the final sequence. But yeah, you we have all these guys there, and um just again cool seeing like I think and I I think there's even different actors playing some of the characters from the original trilogy that just that have maybe small speaking roles in the original movie, but 100%. But um, yeah, just cool stuff again. Um seeing these characters like that, and then yes, now Jin is trying to convince them to they know that the they know they need to go to Scareth is is basically where where the the uh plans are. Right. And Jin is trying to convince them to go there, and the rebellion's like we we we don't there's not there, you have no proof basically. Right, you're literally telling us to go into arguably one of the most guarded imperial sectors in the world at the moment, in the Star Wars universe, for plans that we don't even know exist. Yeah, it could be a trap. Um, you know, and we get some good stuff from hers. This is where she's talking about, you know, that they're questioning her motive. Like, you want us to go, you know, like you just said, risk everything for hope, and she gives the like you know the great line, Rebellions are built on hope. And isn't that what you guys have been doing this whole time? Right. And um, and they're they basically are like, no, like we're we're not gonna do it, it's too risky. And at this point, Cassian is now fully invested in in Jin's kind of uh crusade and believes her, and I think seeing him losing, you know, the the I think he feels some guilt about what happened with her father. Oh, 100%. And so now she's planning to go, and Cassian and a small group of rebels that are l loyal to him. Melshi, a character that's barely speaks in this movie, but we get we have a whole two-season storyline with that guy in a Andor. Yeah. Um and some of the some of their other rebel buddies are that are are down for the cause, basically, and say, you know, he's how many men do we need? Hey, Rogue One, Rogue One, Rogue One. That's it. And then we get the the remainder of the crew and they decide they're gonna so they sneak off to Scaraf. Which that's the that's the funny thing, is it actually took me like five times of watching Rogue One to realize why it's very embarrassing. I shouldn't even be telling you this. But why they weren't Rogue One to start, that was not their call sign, but then when they went rogue, and it's like, okay, well, we can either support them or let them die with all of our supplies and our people. Y'all are Rogue One now. And when I realized it, it was literally like a switch when they said Rogue One three times. I was like, oh my god, it's because they went rogue. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and Gareth says that that call signs, yeah, because for the ship, also because Rogue One, this this was the rogue movie. Like our movie was the Rogue One because it's a standalone movie. And it's the first one. So it's like it's kind of some other meetings there behind it. Uh, and yeah, so they sneak off to go to Scarap, and um they it's a small squad, maybe like 15-20 people they've got with them, max. And they're gonna break into the base. Uh, they're gonna have Bodie pose as an Imperial pilot, and because they've they've stolen an Imperial ship from the planet from Galen's planet so their plan is to sneak in to scarif. They have an actual Imperial pilot who knows the codes and can help them to get through a lot of the base chests and they're gonna they're gonna get in there and they know it's a long shot, and Jenny says, like, we'll use the next chance and the next chance and the next chance until we run out of chances. Honestly, the way they talked about it is they knew it wasn't gonna, at least with what they had, the 15 people, the one ship, like it was not going to work. They were literally going on a suicide mission, they were gonna die trying, and we're okay with that. Yeah. Um which obviously very quickly changes because they don't get left hanging, like and I love Cassian's reasoning where he he tells Jim like why they're doing why he's agreed to go with them, and he he tells them like they've all done terrible things on behalf of the rebellion. It needs to be for and they need to make them they need to make right with within themselves. And I again just a tease of what would come later on, but just with adds so much more depth to that character, I think. And um yeah, I like some of the dialogue here is good where they're talking, like when Jin's Jin is riling up the troops basically, and and Cassian's line of True, it's like the you know, force is the force is strong, you know, and uh Jin drops the may the force be with you because her mom in the beginning of the movie tells her the same thing. You know, she was obviously a believer in the force, she gives her a kyber crystal necklace. I think, and I even think in the original scripts, Jin's mom was supposed to be a Jedi or I'm pretty sure as well. It would have been terrible. Yeah, Cassian's line has a good line where he says, you know, make 10 men feel like a hundred, and yeah, just good stuff right here. And you can tell this is this is where I think a lot of the reworking was done. You can tell because from this point on, it's like this movie's just well. This is where it feels like this you said it earlier. This is where you start getting that black hawk down. Like once they start the planning and it starts like rolling out. Um, if you haven't seen Black Hawk Down, highly recommend you watch it. Amazing. The point we're making by trying to say it is like it comes a point in the movie where there's no good feelings, and it's just like your anxiety is going, your chest is tight, and it's just like, oh my god, this is about to happen, and it's probably gonna be terrible. And that's how you feel right when they're you know starting to land on the planet. Yeah, is it's like there's no way that this can end good. Yeah, in Scarap, it's such a cool, like the the idea that it's just it's this lush, like beach paradise planet that's just full of so much chaos and death by the end of it. Right. So it's like it looks like a beautiful vacation home, but really in reality, it's the home to the um, it's like a big empire installation, and we're about to have so many people dead on the beach, but and the planet is covered by there's a whole planetary shield around the around the planet. It's really cool that there's there's one way to get into it, one way to get out, one way to get out, and if they if they close a shield, that your ship will explode. Um also stops uh communications and like files being sent through. So, like, because obviously they have the plans here, so they have like full security. Like, you are not going to ship our Death Star plans to your ship outside of our planet. No, um, and yeah, I mean from this point on the movie again, like I said, is cooking with gas. And um they I would say jet fuel personally. Pretty much. It's like I was when I rewatch it, I'm like, dude, this this part just fucking rips. Like it it the the action sequences on the on the ground and in the the space battle is one of the space the best space battles that Star Wars has ever done. I mean, uh oh yeah, it rivals anything in I think of the original trilogy. I mean, it it beats it, honestly. Like it's it's crazy shit what he does with this stuff, and and the ships crashing into there's multiple parts, and we've seen it like in Revenge of the Sith, that opening scene I talked about at the beginning. You see it, but the way that they did it in this one, it was just so impactful. Every time you'd watch a ship go down, like I caught myself like heck with what's being shot right now. Where's that ship falling? Because you would catch you like if you three scenes later, as they go cut back, you'll see that same ship that was in the middle of the screens now at the bottom hitting another ship. And if you're not paying attention, you wouldn't have noticed. Right, and uh, yeah, so our our heroes arrived at the to the surface. Jin, Cassian, and K2S are gonna break in and locate the plans, the actual plans, the actual plans, and they need the remainder of the crew, so that's Bodhi, Chirut, Baze, and the remainder the additional rebel soldiers who agreed to come with them to create a distraction basically and to attract all of the Empire's forces onto wherever they are to keep so that way they're not they don't have to deal with as much storm. Yeah, and uh I mean yeah, and they all acknowledge it's probably a suicide mission, but they it this is the last this is the last ditch effort. It's either this works or it doesn't. Right. Um and they don't have bad they at this point they don't have backup coming, they're on their own. And yeah, I mean they they it just this I mean all this stuff is just great. I mean the the action sequences here are fantastic. Um the shootout, I mean, it just I don't know, it's just it's action we've not seen in Star Wars and really haven't seen since, honestly. Like the way it's done in this. Like it it it was it's shot so well, it's choreographed so well, it's it's dirty. I was gonna say it rolls really well too because there's no zero, no, no clunkiness. Because as it starts, like obviously it's like it's in stages, right? The fight's probably like a solid three or four stages of the last 45 minutes of the movie. And it's like every stage you don't realize you've entered the next one. No, it's all like you know, just so seamless the way that it flows when they've you know when the rest of the rebels show up, like you're right back down fighting so fast, and like it's so clear that they have help now. While usually I feel like when you're bouncing around like that, it's very easy to get lost and be like, oh well, what's going on? And it's cool we're seeing this these battles from the perspective of the ground troops, because in the in the original trilogy or prequels, we're we're behind the the Jedi and the heroes, and we're we have our part of the big grandiose battles with them. We're up above looking down on the ATATs and everything. But here, no, this is what this is what it would be like if a soldier's on the ground on an ATAT. We literally see that where what it's like to be on the ground as these ATATs show up. No, I'm good on that. It's it's crazy, like in the way he does it, and shoots it and the scale, and just like the over like and they're outnumbered and they're outgunned, and it's but that's the one thing is they keep outsmarting them throughout the auto fight scenes you can see like between everyone working together and like the facts, like the the conceitedness of like no, they're they're gonna get this done and they are not giving up on it. It's like and yeah, and they do. They're they're they're crafty, and they start they Bodhi gets again gets in the on the radio, and he's he's lying about which which installation that they're at, so that the trooper they're sending troops to the wrong place, so that way they're you know they're not getting outnumbered. And remember, Krenick is Krennick is up top. They have like a it's a big view tower that the plans are in, and he's at the top of the tower, and you can see like all of the planet, or not all the planet, all the uh military base, and it's like an explosion happens, yeah, and then you have Bodhi calling in what's going on, but he's calling it in, and it's the it's a uh fake explosion that they rigged. And so then you have Bodhi yelling with shots in the back because he's actually fighting, yeah, you know, oh, on this thing. And so then you have Krenick going, send everyone over there that's available. And then he's having other rebels get on the comms and and lie about other yeah, just like and so you can see Krenick looking around his entire base, and it's like a 360 scene where you watch him spin at least like 200 plus degrees, and it's just explosion guys calling for help, explosion guys calling for help, and obviously, we know as the viewer, yeah, only one of those is real, buddy, and it's not the one you're looking at right now. It's awesome. And uh, you know, like you said, like the as they begin getting outnumbered and losing, discover that from at the rebel base, they when they hear about the commotion that that the rebels are on scarab. Um we discover that Admiral Radis has taken his his uh crew, his battalion to Scarf some of the Cassians uh superiors, the the pilot, the bond the pilots, they decide, you know, fuck it, we're going to. They go and it's it's on. Like they're like, I guess this this is this is happening, and um it's kind of like the all all is lost moment, and then Raddus and Raddus shows up with his with his battalion in this in the space, and yeah, yeah, because they start sending X f X wings down and in, but they started closing the gate. So that added the whole new thing of okay, well, we got some bombers in, but now we can't get the plans out. Right. So we need that shield down. Yes. And then obviously Radus was very quick to realize that there's no way to get this shield down with what we have weapons-wise. Right. And uh yeah, great stuff with the space battles is epic. I mean, the the the the new like vehicles and ships they use that Carillion uh was it like the Carillion Corvette, which or the hammerhead corvette. The hammerhead corvette, yeah. When the the when they they were they're able to to disable one of the Star Destroyers, it's crashing. They need to get they need to destroy the shield so the plans can shoot up, and Radis calls for the the camerahead corvette. We're like, what the hell is this? And it's literally like like a uh a the ship with like just all this math. It kind of looks like a dick. I mean just a little bit. No, but it's it's an awesome ship where the the the crew crashes into the destroyer and it basically like forces the destroyer to crash into the next destroyer, pull them both down into the shield, destroy the shield because it uh yeah, Jin, Cassian, and K2SO are in the in like the director, the archives, looking to they discover the plans. Um great, you know, kind of end to the running gag of the movie where Jin gives K2SO a blaster. Right. Because he's gonna hold guard for as they he's gonna watch as they're you know keep moving up. And uh then this is kind of when things start getting dark for our characters. You know, K2SO puts up a good fight, uh, but he eventually is he's it's he's killed, he's he's destroyed, which is uh to make it clear. After taking out 20, he just had a pistol. He kills a lot of stormtroopers. He was he was like three kills away from a fucking nuke. Okay, three kills away from a tactical nuke and winning in on his own. Yeah, right. He did he did great work, uh, and it's a fight, it fucking sucks when he dies because you like fucking love this guy, dude. Yeah, so his death was sadder than everyone else's. It kind of is because it was like everyone's alive, and it was like we he's the reason they got that far. He held the line. Yeah, literally. If you've seen Game of Thrones, uh hashtag Hodor. Yeah, honestly, the goat, you know what I mean? Pretty much, yeah. He's he he he kept it, he kept it home, he kept it running. He he didn't back down, but um yeah, so he's the first to go. Um, and uh yeah, I think early versions of the script only had K2S with dying and everybody else was survived, and I think again, that would have just been a huge mistake if this movie copped out like that. It would it would have ruined them. Um and then yeah, we you know we get we get some of the fighters, uh some of the pilots, the rebel fighters made it past the shield, so we get some cool aerial battle stuff on the surface of the again. It's just cool seeing from the ground troopers' point of view as X-Wings and Y bombers are fighting against TIE fighters and TIE bombs. Like you just use they're seeing the aerial battles, they're taking down ATATs, like even the way that the camera work would, you'd be like you'd be eye to eye or over one of the rebel's shoulders, and you would see the bomber coming right at him as it turns off and bombs, you know, 300 yards to the right. But the way that the ship would turn off is like the bomb was coming at the soldier but falls short, and then you see, you know, uh Imperials flying out from there, and it was just it was honestly like phenomenal angle choosing and everything like that because it like you said, it was just angles that we had never seen before. I thought we could see. No, it's awesome. It's literally like this, like the battlefront games, like I was literally gonna say brought to life. Like it's so great. Your scarf was literally just a war zone. I I somewhat played a lot of battlefront when they added that map in two. I was sitting there and I was like, I was on there like locked in. Every time I played it, it felt like I was in the actual movie. I'm looking around, I'm like, yeah, this is a scene from the movie. Yeah. Rogue One was like, like, yeah, I would watch Rogue Win and be like, I'm gonna go play Battlefront. Like, I'm gonna go just vlog like hours because I'm like, I just want to be like in this fight. Like, I'm so literally you're so hyped watching it. Uh and yeah, things start going south for our heroes here. Um K2 or yeah, K2 dies. Jin and Cassian locate the plans, um, and Krenic captures them. He's or Krenic uh you know finds them, he blasts Cassian. Yep, uh, Cassian get taken down. I think uh they get a shot on Krennick. Jinn gets to the top, they've gotta they've gotta get the plans to the ship, to Radus's ship, so which requires them to destroy the shield, but on on top of that, they need Bodhi to get like the communication line open. I was gonna say he has to plug it into the communications line from the stuff. So it's like he's gotta do that, they gotta get Bodhi to do like that thing, and they need the shield to get destroyed. There's like a lot of different things that need to, there's a lot of miracles that need to happen for them to give for this to even happen. And you know, they just tell Bodhi, you got you gotta do it. Like, if there's no we if you don't do it, this is for nothing. And uh Bodhi is with you know the other the other troops and they're they're getting their asses handed to them, and Bodhi he gets into action. I mean, if in and you know, to his credit, he he fucking gets into high gear and he starts taking the. He starts having a panic attack, and I remember being in movie theaters, I'm like, dude, you've been so great. Don't let this happen now. And like he seemed like he's gonna be that character in saving private Ryan, the one that the one that bitches out. And then you just watch him just like a complete G, just the switch of nope, we're here to do this. And he starts bossing. I don't know if you remember, he starts bossing on some of the rebels. He's like, You do this, you do this, you do this, and as he grabs the thing to plug in, and I'm gonna do it myself. Yeah rest in peace. Yeah, he's gonna like he's gonna like literally physically run a wire from the ship to like the the the satellite or whatever, like the little dish. Like he's literally running back and forth in between like an active war zone, grenades being thrown, blah, like he's runs past a rebel, and as he runs past it, that rebel gets headshot. Yeah, and uh it's it's I mean, and we start basically we start losing all these characters, like all of the even just like the the the other rebels that went with him is just they're all dropping like flies. And Melshi, a character we see, he's he takes a hit, and then as you know, when Chirit looks over to him again, he's dead on the floor. Yep. And uh Chiru needs to they need to uh pull the trick, I think like the the switch. So Bodhi gets the switch, he gets it plugged in. They see him die because the second he gets it plugged in, I think. The master switch. Yeah, he gets shot over the plug-in, and then the next thing is they have to activate the master switch, which is gonna now turn it on and Bodhi can't get back to the ship yet until he does that. So Chiru, he would they were gonna send a they were gonna send a troop over there, but they're ever they're getting blasted because something we haven't brought up is the there's death troopers, like Krennick's personal uh entourage of of deadly stormtroopers. So fly. These ones don't miss, they're all black. Yep, they're all blacked out. They hit their target. They got custom helmets that you can actually see through. Such a cool design. Like, oh yeah. That's that's what you need to do. Like, that's what you do. Just make you just do whatever the fuck you need to do. They have like the beach troopers too the like the tan records. Yeah, like just cool stuff. Like, right. And when those came to the battlefront game, I was always switching my skin to it. It's over. Uh yeah. So then we we lose Shiro, Donnie Yen here. He's able to flip great scene where he I'm one with the force, force one with me, and he walks past all the good the fire, gunfire, not one shot hits him. No. Uh, because these you know the force is on his side at that moment. One with the force and the force is with me. Yeah. And he just kept saying flips the master switch and then fucking craft trooper. Yeah, death trooper. I have never cried during a Star Wars movie. And I don't know if it's Donna Yen or just like what it was, and how like, you know, it's a great scene. It's a great death scene. Then you got Bayes after flips out, loses his runs in, just fucking blows all his death troopers away. Uh and literally like one v6 is some death troopers, which is crazy to think about. We've seen death troopers a lot throughout all Star Wars, and usually, unless you're a Jedi or like a Mandalorian, you're not even touching one of them. And he said six of you, or however many it was. And uh before he died, before so Turit dies from the explosion, and then Baze is able to accept the force back into his into his life moments before he died. After he kills these managers to kill the death troopers, and that you know, unfortunately, we we lose him as well. Bummer, so he dies with you know, they die together and they're back. Brothers, great stuff, man. Pretty emotional. Pretty emotional. I'm like, I'm saying, I'm like, god damn, it's such a good scene. It was such it's such a good, such a sad scene, but at the end of the day, it's a celebrated scene because yeah, they like you said, he started with the force again, and what we know from Star Wars is they're now sitting there watching the battle together as Force goes because they both were very fortunate. Shortly after this, after the switch has been pulled, Bodhi's able to get the communications up, and then of course, a bunch of thermal detonators get thrown into the ship that Bodhi's in. And and great again, another great death scene where Bodhi's like he did it, and he's like, he even says, like, you know, Galen, like he's acknowledging it again, because he said Galen believed in him. Galen's like, I know you can do great things. Like, that's kind of how Galen kind of convinces him to defect, and uh, he even says for Galen, and uh that's the first time when all those thermal detonators and after uh get thrown in, and after he says what he says about Galen, that's the first time on the entire he's it's the first time since he had been on screen that you see him relax. Right. I don't know if you noticed that, yeah. He's geeking out in the beginning because he doesn't know where he's going, then he gets uh interrogated by what's it called or yeah, Borgola, something like that, yeah. Some some crazy name, which is literally drives people insane. So he went like insane and had to find his brain again. Yeah, after he got that out, I think he like took a big deep breath, and that was actually a very satisfying scene for me because this dude had suffered, and it's like, dude, you did it, you got the message, and it's going up. Yeah, everything's done now. Um, and yeah, so so Jin, they're able to transmit the plans up. And at this point, we know it's it's a suicide, like they're not none, no one's making it off. They can't get any ships down there to rescue anybody because at this point, I think when I think at the point where we lose Curret and Baze, I want to say the Death Star hyperspace is in. Yeah, and all of a sudden the entire rebel fleet is up there and communicates down and goes, Hey guys, great job, Rogue One. It's time for us to go. And all the time. May the force be with you. May the force be with you. And so they all do goosebumps. Yeah, it's such a great scene. And um yeah, Krenik manages to get back up, but it's at that point, it's too late. They, you know, Cassian reappears, they kill Krenik, um, the Death Star, yeah, uh Tark. Again, just the Empire being the Empire. They know that Krenik's on the surface of the planet, and they're like Tarkin sees this. Tarkin sees it as like Tarkin seemed happy. He's like, Yes, we can just get rid of this guy, like with fucking pain in my eye. Like he's gonna. I was gonna say, well, that's one thing. Krenick did mess up a lot. Well, I had a lot of bad happen under him, wasn't directly to you. We know Tarkin, they don't stand for that. And we know that Vader's in route. Yeah, uh, we hear it, we hear it offhand. Like, well, Vader's in route, so we know that we're hoping at this point something's gonna happen with Vader's still. Uh, and yeah, so like you said, the rebel fleet manages to escape. We basically we we lose every key character that was on scarf that the basically anyone that was on scarif was sent there to die, like they sacrificed. And have some have their moment, uh be at peace for the first time in a long time. Another another like surprising like I remember like when that scene comes when when scarab they destroy scarf and the explosion happens. Like, I was I remember thinking, don't you dare. I it's weird, weird thought. I did not want them to kiss because it would have taken away from the story. Yes, we are not there's no love in this story right now. I agree. And so when they like literally just hugged and put their head on each other, it was like, all right, it's just that's camaraderie. That's what it would be. We just got out of war, we ain't kissing right now. No, and I'm I and I think uh I think there was that like an earlier script, and they may have even shot a kiss. There was a hundred percent um and and rightfully they were like, This let's not do this, let's not do this. It overshadows the sacrifice, then all of a sudden it's a love story and they found love at the end. Yeah, we don't need to do that. That would have ruined the ending a hundred percent. So they made the right call there all day. Uh and so yeah, we again sad scene seeing them embrace as they're destroyed by the explosion, and as is the rest of the stuff. This is the land tsunami as I call it. The Death Star makes a land tsunami. Um the rebels are then this is when we get the scene of all scenes. Like, this is what the greatest standalone Star Wars scene of all time. Literally, 100%. When you have the context of what this scene is, yeah. Yeah, and so now we're getting the this like this literally leads right into so you think the movie's done, we've done the greatest sacrifice of all time. Everybody's dead, you're hyped because you've just seen the the greatest 45 minutes of Star Wars ever, and then like you're just like, oh shit, and then you forget, like, oh wait, they're Vader. And so now we're on the rebel, one of the rebel ships as it's trying with the ones that received the plans. They have the plans, and they're escaping, and then they're boarded by Vader's. They're boarded by a ship. We don't know what it is, right? And the light, the lights go out, doors open, and then what are all pitch black, and then you just then you hear then it's a you we see Vader being illuminated by his own red lightsaber. Amazing, amazing, and like that like it's like a horror scene. Like not only is it a great action scene, but it's it's out of a horror movie. Well, that's the thing. That's why I like uh Clone Wars, that's why I like uh like the Bad Batch, uh Rebel so much, because when you see Darth Vader or these super evil characters in these scenes, the way that they build it, it's supposed these people like Anakin, Palpatine, are so powerful that you need to tremble at their presence because they'd be equivalent to what we know in real life as a god. And a lot of like and the thing is too, is these they they hear about these people, Palpatine or Evader, but they're not gonna be able to do it. He snapped that guy by snapping his fingers, dude. Yeah, but they you know they don't they don't often come across him, so when they finally do, you know, you you hear about it and then when they you finally see it and you're like, oh fuck, like this is the fucking guy they whisper about at you know down the hall at that base, and then yeah, just walking down the hallway and you just watched him slaughter eight of your teammates, and my crosshair is on him. I'm shooting him in the chest, and the bullet hits my guy next to me. Like, whoa. It's terrifying. He didn't even there's a couple scenes where he deflects the blaster bolts with his hands just or his mind just no. He has one dude up on the ceiling of the ship and then like walks past him to kill two more, then oh yeah, I forgot, I got this dude up top, just slices him up on the ceiling, like just insane stuff. Garth Maul split. Literally, it's it's it's such a great sequence. And then to find out that it was a reshoot, like it was added. Gareth Edwards did this, did this scene uh and during reshoots, like he's like, I directed that. That was a late minute. And I think originally there was they had planned to have Vader appear on the on scarif, like on the cert, like he was in a but I think much better. I I I love the whole scarif sequence. I do not want to see Vader on a beach. No, I don't want to buy Vader's. And he hates sand anyway, so that doesn't make sense. I wish you got to it quicker than me. I was gonna say, Vader would literally look at it and go, which ship took the plans. I'm not going down there. Let them get it. I'll get their ship when they leave. But that sequence is because it's just it's disconnected, and again, I I I don't I would have it would have been weird if we see Jin and Cassian and all them interacting with Vader. I I'd rather not see that. So again, great fucking ending. Uh and it just highlights the the terror and the the how dangerous Vader really is. Right to where the fact where they're really running and screaming, and and the final scene of the rebel just they're trying to get the door open for that last rebel, and like all they all know they're they're gonna die, so it's just a matter of getting the plans away from this guy. Quite literally to the point where like they can't get the door open, he's like, just take him. He just shoves his arm and just go take him. And yeah, that scene's brutal because as you're looking at it from like the guy's face through the window, so you're over the guy's shoulder that's being handed, and as that red saber goes through the guy, too, it's like, oh, this force that's walking towards us is not gonna stop. Which that that was the airlock between their uh and the bigger ship that they were on. So at that point, obviously they hey uh hit the button and go before he opens this door, too. Amazing sequence, and then of course then we get it bookends with uh we we see Leia again as she receives the plans, and this basically leads right into a new hope. And it was you know, that was pretty when at that time when that scene happens, it was pretty emotional too because Carrie Fisher had just died, like like that, like two days before. I don't know, it was brutal, it was really sad. So that it was kind of nice to see that. And um, but but yeah, I mean that's Rogue One. Like I fucking I mean, that's what a way to end a movie. Honestly, yeah, it was it again. It's one of the one, it's one of the best, in my opinion. Uh it's one of it's a top 10 movie out there to the story. Yeah, and then it's definitely the best, in my mind, Star Wars movie standalone. Though absolutely there's just every Star Wars movie's got something to complain about, and I still I really can't really find something besides the fact K2SO down here. Yeah, no, I agree, I agree, man. I mean, my my complaint is that I just would love to see these characters again, but it's like that it's not you know, no, that's it wouldn't be as good if you could. That's not a story complaint, that's just the that's just because how much I love the characters. Yeah, it's a type of greed they talk about in the Bible. Yeah, yeah. Um, but yeah, man, I fucking love it. And uh, you know, we've you know, as we start wrapping up here, uh, you know, uh we can talk about Star Wars for hours, it sounds like so. It's been really fun to talk to you about it. Yeah, I know. I really appreciate you having me. And yeah, but I'm glad that we did Rogue One because I do think it's it's the heart. Like, not with where we're at, obviously, you know, back in the day it couldn't have been the heart, but like with where it's at, I feel like Rogue One's the heart of Star Wars. I think so. I think ultimately because of what Andor became and is after the fact. Like when you hear they're making a prequel a prequel to the prequel about Cassian and Andor, I remember being like, Why why are we doing that? Like I love I love I love that. Like I love Cassian, but like we know where that story ends. Like, what what are we gonna know? And then you know, to hear it's gonna be like some sort of like spy thriller. I'm like, okay, that could be interesting, but but I'm just saying, I don't know if you remember the uh well, I think it was season two when they of Andor when we started with the uh prison season one. That was season one when Andy Circus comes out, okay. Yeah, but that was like right around the time of Squid Game as well, and it just felt so like I just remember watching it and being like, wow, this is this was something that was missing in Star Wars. You've never it was so unique. No uh Andor season one. It was like, yeah, this is this is a different stone. It it basically it took the best stuff from Rogue One and just and just extended it and went deeper into it, into that like the stuff we referenced about how the good guys aren't necessarily are the bad guys and the bad guys are the good guys. We've got you've got empire, you've got people embedded into the empire that are don't believe in the empire and are are want to do right, but you know, but then they're being taken advantage of by rebels who are supposed to be good, like the good guys, right? Luthan is Luthan is like the linchpin of the entire rebellion, and he's he's the guy who can is kind of barely holding the rebellion together, but he does a lot of messed up shit. Right. And he's taking advantage of people who are scared for their lives, and but he's doing what he you know, it's like for the greater good. That's like what they everyone tells themselves, and and right to get the backstory we get from from Cassian and and just it just the show recontextualizes Rogue One to and the fact that the like the final episode of Andor just literally goes right into Rogue One, it's so cool. Well, and that's again, and it's it's so easy to watch. You're not a Star Wars fan, go watch it, go like it anyway. Go watch Andor. I mean that's I think Andor is yeah, it's one of the Andor and Mand and uh Mandalorian. Yeah, those are the two where it's like Andor's probably the best Star Wars show ever made, but it's also like one of the best, just best shit in general. And uh I I love it so much. And we know we talked about it a bunch here, and yeah, I think we could probably have a whole other episode just devoted to the Andor stuff because if we start if we start talking about that right now, then you'll never get to your screening of the Mandalorian and Grogoots. No, gotta see it. We gotta get you in the theaters. Um, but yeah, man, as we start wrapping up here, I uh you're about to go watch you're gonna go watch the Mandalorian Grogoots this evening, it sounds like right now. Uh probably be sitting down in theater in the next 15 minutes. Don't gotta go too far. And yeah, you know, I'm not going into it with crazy hopes. I know exactly what it's gonna be based on the reviews I heard from you and everyone around me that's seen it. It's a good time, it's entertaining. Uh, my only thing is it's been seven years since a live action Star Wars movies and theaters. I think we probably could have I think it should have been a little bit more grand or grand like epic or a little more important or more of an event. Once I saw that this was the movie that they were gonna I knew they were coming with a movie, but I thought we'd get something else and then this. Um I was like, yeah, this is where I agree with certain people where it's the money grab because you know they're working on what you just said. They have it, they're working on it. Yeah, but they chose this, yeah, and that's safe. You know, it's the safe choice, it's not gonna uh uh offend anybody. Nope. There's no homework. Star Wars fans are getting their their fix, they're getting their little fix while they're homeworking the next one. Honestly, like even if you haven't watched the show, you can enjoy the movie. Like, there really is not a ton of lore. That's what's um like and I would I'm over here like I'm not gonna spoil anything for you. It's like, dude, like there's nothing for me to spoil it for you. Like, you're gonna come out of the movie, like I hope you enjoy it. It's a good time. You're gonna come out of it. I promise there is no revelation where you're like, oh wow, this is part of the story. Like, it's just a just it's just an adventure. And you know what? It's like that's fine, and that's fine too. Like, it doesn't mean not every movie needs to be like game-changing, but I mean, if you're not good, if you haven't had a movie in theaters for X amount of years, there it should probably be a big deal for the first one out the gate after a while. And then, you know, two, three down the line, you can just just have a fun adventure movie, and let's just, you know, that that's what's been fine. I might have to disagree with you because we got the little the little hut that was the little baby from a clone wars. He's uh he's a whole gladiator now from these uh from these commercials. I'll see how much you enjoy Ride of the Hutt. It's rather thing. I needed I needed the uh name uh to be uh but I do hope you enjoy it. I I mean I enjoyed my time in the theater. It was nice to see Star Wars on the big screen again. Grogu is a he's a fucking joy to watch. A great little I love watching that guy. Um, but I hope you enjoy it. But I appreciate you coming on the show, man. It's been great to have you. Hey, thank you for having me, Rudy. It was a great time I hope I can come back and do this again soon. Yeah, I definitely would love to have you come back, man. So I normally I ask people what what they've watched recently, but I know what you're about to go watch recently, so I guess I'll cut you off there. What I've watched recently, the most recent thing I've been doing that's live action is the Burrows on Netflix. Okay. That's what I've been watching. Oh, the Burrows, yeah. New show that just got out of it. Yeah, I want to start that. Uh, how have you been liking it? Yeah, yeah, I'm only um two episodes in, um, and it's definitely has me hooked. Like it's like Stranger Things with old people. It's way better than Stranger Things. Yeah, no, I'm excited. I the kids in Stranger Things lost me. I understand it. I watched, I think, two seasons I did the Stranger Things, but this just seems more to me realistic. Yeah, no, I'm excited to start that. I I that's on my list. There's a lot of TV out right now that I've been trying to get caught up on. Um, but that's definitely on my watch list for sure. So I'm excited about that. Good to hear you're enjoying it, man. But well, hey, maybe when you get caught up on that, that's what we'll do the next one. Yeah, man. Next time you come back, I think we have a lot of things to talk about. Uh, I definitely want to get more into Andor with you. Uh and I think, you know, I would love to hear your take on Mandalord and Grogu, and there's lots of some Star Wars. I think there's a lot of Star Wars we could talk about in general. We could we're gonna get it in, bro. All right, bro. Well, I appreciate you coming on. Uh pleasure to pleasure to meet you, pleasure to talk to you. So, same to you. All right, man. Take care. Thank you everybody for listening.