She Built and Sold a Product in 3 Days — Without Knowing How to Code

She's not a developer. She's an accountant, a mum of three, and she runs a Shopify agency. Then she built and launched an entire interactive kids' product — start to finish — in about three days of real work. With AI. From her kitchen, in a loud, chaotic, neurodivergent household.

This is the episode for anyone who's ever thought "I'd build the thing if I were technical enough." You're about to find out that excuse expired.

Anna Tillotson founded House of Cart, a no-BS Shopify + Klaviyo agency for product businesses. But the reason she's on this show is what happened when she stopped consuming AI and started building with it — and what it's now teaching her about the future her own kids are walking into.

What we get into:

• The moment a stranger from Texas bought thousands in services because ChatGPT recommended Anna — and why that was the signal that everything had changed
• Why she ripped out her team's individual ChatGPT logins overnight and went all-in on Claude — collaboratively, not in silos
• The reframe that disarms the fear: you're not replacing your team, you're turning them into AI orchestrators who get 20 hours a week back
• Why your customers are asking the chatbots now, not Google — and what happens to the businesses that don't catch up
• The full Future Ready Kids build: the "epic fail" first attempt, the get-shit-done attitude, and how minimal the coding actually was
• The skill that separates the people who'll thrive from the people who won't — for her kids and for you
• The study that should worry anyone using AI to "learn": feeling smarter while performing worse

AI Confession Booth: Anna's most-used AI isn't a work tool. It's a therapist she opens mid-meltdown in a chaotic household. Real ones will get it.

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• House of Cart → houseofcart.com.au
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Transcript

Brooke 0:00

Hello. Hello. Welcome back to not another AI girl. If you are New here. This is the show for women and founders who wanna talk about AI in a way that doesn't make you feel like you don't belong. Not the tech growth stuff. And we are getting into a good one today. I have a guest with me, Anna, you're my second guest on the podcast. So quick intro. Anna is the founder of House of Cart, which is a Shopify and Klaviyo agency with a gloriously no BS approach to e-commerce. And so her and her team help businesses fix what's broken, convert better, and stop setting fire to their ad spare. So she's a straight talker mom of three and the person your online store actually needs. But we're also going to get into another product that she has launched, which if you are a parent, you will be very interested in this. So it's a whole workbook suite for kids called Future Ready Kids. And she built this using Claude Cowork and Code. And so it is interactive for two different age groups. It has a parent guide a lot and she did this while running her own business and family and everything. So we're gonna get into all of that today. And I am so excited to have you here, Emma, welcome to not another AI girl.

Anna 1:28

Thanks for having me and such a newbie guest as well, so that's exciting. Yes. It's been lovely to connect and meet you in the online world, so yeah, really excited to talk about, all the topics because I feel like it's also shifted the topics over the years and boom, here we are in this AI space at the

Brooke 1:46

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I'm excited to get into this today because I would definitely say that I am not like an e-commerce expert. So I think, yeah, I'm gonna learn a lot from you today as well yeah. Stoked. All right. Before we get into all of that, I just have a couple of quick questions for you. So what's the first thing AI ever did for you that made you go, ah, okay, this is actually good. This is useful.

Anna 2:19

Is useful. I think it probably would've been, a year or so ago, I guess back in the chat GPT days, which feels like a very long time ago now 'cause there's been such a shift and such a change. For me it was realising that it was like this really smart support all of a sudden, and initially like everybody else, being able to ans ask questions and get answers back that were outside your brain, outside your team, outside your network. And it just being able to feed information back to you, which is when I realised that a shift is changing. and then how quickly that would change. So I guess that was the first moment when I realised something was different. Just being able to have that bounce board that we never would've had before, aside from a human

Brooke 3:07

Yeah, true that. Yeah, so true. And gosh, it's so funny, I've actually been opening chat GPT again more in the last few days. It's funny how like you just go between, or

Anna 3:20

Yeah.

Brooke 3:21

chat was where it was at last year, and then Claude yeah.

Anna 3:24

Yep. And I feel like I still have a lot of my personal stuff inside

Brooke 3:28

Yeah.

Anna 3:29

I don't know, personal side was in

Brooke 3:31

Yep.

Anna 3:32

and I have really them, I've kept personal in one and, Claude's become business. But yeah, it's interesting, right? It's just that whole concept of, chatting with someone new, the smart and the brain behind it is a really interesting concept for sure.

Brooke 3:45

For sure. All right, so three kids, two businesses. What do you say when someone says, what do you do?

Anna 3:57

When someone says, what do I do? probably I give them my why, which is I am creating a lifestyle by design is the whole reason why. At the end of the day, we're all here to make money. There's no, I don't hide

Brooke 4:11

Yep.

Anna 4:11

I'm here to make money and support myself and my lifestyle. But the reason, why I do what I do and what I do is to create the lifestyle that I want build a world around that. Not the other way round. So I fell into what I do. I fell into House of Cart very randomly. I'm not, I, this is not my background, this is not my expertise. I'm an accountant by trade. What I do is now is I build Shopify stores. I help people grow their Shopify stores and, really push their e-commerce journey. So all evolved from there. And as things have come into the universe, like this AI journey and all those things, my creative brain really jumps out because originally I was the creative inside house of car. And as my team's grown, I'm no longer the creative. Other people are doing that for me. So that leaves me, a little bit of spare time, which is, I feel like AI is making me way more creative now as well, because I'm able to venture out into a lot more avenues than what I would've

Brooke 5:10

Oh my gosh. I love that. I love that. I like we're both neurodivergent and so that's obviously why we've connected, but I think a lot of people listening will relate to that. I just think that AI has unleashed this creativity in me that I never even realised existed. I don't know if that's how you feel about it too.

Anna 5:36

Yeah, it has in a way, like I feel like I always had it, and that's a, a lot of the reason why I also fell in love with and building web stores because I really enjoyed that creative side of it. Then as my business grew and I was doing that lesson, doing more of the boring stuff for me now, AI is allowing me to do more fun, creative stuff. And I love that one, how easy it is. And two, just the unlimited possibilities.

Brooke 6:00

Yeah.

Anna 6:00

And I, a couple of your posts that you've been putting up in the last few days about just super fun things that you can create, when would we have done that prior, when would we have jumped in and just said, okay, I'm gonna create something fun because I can, and the world needs that right now. There's just so much going Being able to create really fun stuff and things that actually light you up and bring Is

Brooke 6:20

yeah,

Anna 6:21

massive.

Brooke 6:22

And that's it. Not everything. Yeah, I'm on the same page with you. I wanna make like good money to support my family, my lifestyle, but also help other women do the same. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But then on the flip side of that, not everything we create needs to have that purpose. And so it's really nice to have that space to just create for the sake of it, to just explore different avenues for joy,

Anna 6:50

Agree.

Brooke 6:51

for all of that.

Anna 6:52

Ev every brain is different. I've never been the kind of person I don't like journaling. I'm not, all these creative outlets over the last five years that people were saying, Hey, do this. And, nothing's ever connected with me. I'm an absolute tech geek. I always

Brooke 7:05

Yeah.

Anna 7:06

And I just love that I get to do something like that. But it's tech based, right? I don't wanna write in a journal. I don't want to go and meditate. It is lovely, but it's just not my jam. I get lit up and I get excitement from building tech, playing with tech, seeing something work. And, prior it was really hard and really challenging and the outputs were slow and it was not, you didn't get that spark straight

Brooke 7:28

Yeah.

Anna 7:29

gratification. you absolutely dopamine hit in every instance. And for my brain, that's exactly, where it needs to be, but it's what it can create. Now that I'm seeing what it can do for myself, my team, and then our clients, like the sky is the limit. And that's the really exciting

Brooke 7:48

Yeah. So

Anna 7:49

really

Brooke 7:49

that's, I guess what I wanna dig into now. So talk to me about how you are using AI for, your business. And we'll get into the Future Ready Kids in a little bit, but like for the the House of Cart side and also, yeah, for your clients, like what are you using it, how are you using it?

Anna 8:09

So I guess, if we would've. Backtrack to a year ago, exactly the same time, I was using it very differently. I just had, my own pro account on chat two BT. My team had their own team, pro accounts, but there was no connection, there was no collaboration. We were all using it individually, and like on all the socials, really just using it to ask question and get an answer back. For me, I think it really flipped in November, December when I actually randomly got, to start with, I got one very large client order and it was massive from Texas. And I mean we do advertise, we do have, international clients, but this person purchased from me a lot of services. I've never met them, they were not in my database. And when I reached out to them and said, Hey, thanks for the order, like that's awesome to connect, but can I ask how you found me? told me that she put into chat GPT, the kind of website she wanted it to look. And my name popped straight up.

Brooke 9:06

Good.

Anna 9:07

blew my mind. And that was even before people were having the conversation. And it had been launched live, right? And I'm thinking, this is just so random, and then I just, thought that this is the turning point, this is the change of something's happening, something's coming, and it's really snowballed from there. So probably early this year we decided to completely pivot. You are probably one of the main reasons I pivoted completely onto Claude. I stumbled on you and just was spell bound by what was possible. And so we also then just decided to go all in and we scraped out Chi BT is individual accounts. We moved to Claude, we connected everything. We worked together as a collaborative

Brooke 9:45

Yep.

Anna 9:46

But how we started using it was literally on a day-to-day basis, what is repetitive? What's causing problems, what troubles are we having? Where have we got gaps? And what can we do to make things easier, quicker, simpler? And know, to really make our whole process and our whole team and everything from internal to external to client to workflows, everything. What can we do to streamline and save time and make it easier and more fun? And at the end of the day, yes, there is this conversation that, do I still need my team? Are they gonna get their jobs? Made redundant because all that scary conversation. But for us, we are looking at it very differently is I want them to be AI orchestras because I can now see what I've been able to achieve very easily with no tech background. I have a slight tech background, but I'm not a coder, but I'm able to get in there. I'm able to achieve a lot of things. We've solved a lot of problems, we've streamlined. now it's about teaching them to do that because when they get 20 hours back out of the work that I give them every week, then able to go, okay, what else can we do that's way more fun and way more exciting, way more, to build the business, right? So snowballed into what we are doing for ourselves and as a team with House of Cart. And then that snowballed into, okay, what can cl. Clients do. Because if I'm getting discovered with no effort at all, and then now I've figured out the process and the recipe behind that, we are now trying to educate our clients to how are they going to get seen by chat GPT, how are they going to get seen by Gemini and recommended, because now are not asking Google, they're asking the chat bots. And the other issue is now Google's using AI at the top as well, so no one's even seeing the recommendation. So it's even more important for our clients to hit the reality that, AI is here and AI is here to stay. working with it to make better decisions, to make better judgement calls with their brands and their businesses and to be seen and not get left behind. So we're also trying to do that and, I'm running a workshop soon so that people can also understand what they can do, what they can create, what dashboards they can create instead of having to find all the information to make better decisions. Rely on that strategy from the AI that's you can feed in to get more information and do better with the results. So how we're using it as an agency and as a team. And that's how we're now trying to feed that into our client use as

Brooke 12:14

Yeah. I love what you said about not replacing your team. I think that is key. I think a lot of people that I speak with who are apprehensive about ai, it comes from that fear, right? And a lot of the most successful business owners that I'm working with are taking this approach. Like, how can I equip my staff to use this tool? Because one, obviously, like you're gonna get like efficiencies, all of that. But also I think if you empower your team to engage with this tech and feel like, oh, okay, like I can use this, not, I'm gonna get replaced, you're gonna get like heaps better engagement with your team as well. Or they're not gonna be like, oh, I better look for another job because Anna's gonna get rid of me. It's it's a way too, be really clear with your team. Okay, we're gonna, we're rolling this out but here's how it's gonna look. And you're a part of this. It's equipping you with these skills.

Anna 13:19

Yep. And we approached it in that exact way. Like the very first message I think was probably in March that I sent to everyone as a Slack announcement. Hey, I'm all in. I've just wasted a week of my whole life,

Brooke 13:30

Waste is a.

Anna 13:32

engulfed in this, right? It's, no, sorry, not waste, but I've

Brooke 13:35

Hyper focused.

Anna 13:37

to this, but here we are and this is what I wanna offer to you. And you have all the access, you have all the, skills and knowledge that you need to then level yourself up and they've just run with it. The fact of being, having the opportunity to jump in and, I'm seeing it from two different angles. My husband is a really tra traditional career. He's, engineering firm who are on the older, in, the older generation. And so I've also been into some workshops with different industries and it's been really interesting seeing how everyone's approaching it. There's a lot of block out

Brooke 14:13

Yeah.

Anna 14:14

Some of these massive big firms, aren't even offering it out for them to use. And it's a shame, because the time that can be saved also again, like we are not there to replace roles. We are here to say, okay, so if this job takes you three hours, it into Claude and ask the question, how can you help me fix this or do this better? Or what can you do? And the results are,

Brooke 14:35

Yeah. Yeah.

Anna 14:37

that you cannot do alone. You cannot do, by sitting down without spending hour after hour analysing things. And it's not about that. The AI is completely right and a hundred percent, but it's about, just being able to have that level of scope and view is huge.

Brooke 14:54

Yeah.

Anna 14:55

know, you can't deny it. You can't

Brooke 14:57

Yeah, it's out, isn't it? And so yeah, it's, yeah.

Anna 15:01

it

Brooke 15:02

Yeah. So tell me about Future Ready Kids. Just from, I'm a parent, I can relate to this a lot, but yeah, for anyone listening, walk us through, I guess like where the idea came from and then I would love to hear, and I think a lot of listeners would like the actual build process for this.

Anna 15:23

Yep. So I guess it all started, and I've been thinking about this for a very long time. I have three children, between the ages of nine and 12 one starting high school next year, and, mine loves school, mine thrive. We're, we are not an anti school family. I'm not a homeschooler for any reason. Mine adore the whole process of school. They are learning amazing things in school. Are they relative, possibly not. Are they getting the skills that are gonna be in the next 10, 15, 20 years? Possibly not. School has changed a lot and sorry, the world has changed a lot. And I personally, in my opinion, I don't feel they are gonna be learning the skills that they need to actually get a job in the next 20 years. And the conversation's been huge even just in the last few months. And I work in the industry, so I also know, and for me, in my personal opinion I don't want them just getting into something that they don't love and they're not passionate about and they don't feel great about it, and they're not earning great money from, and, they've been pocketed somewhere that they don't wanna be. I want them to have options and to be able to really understand how they can evolve in the world. And, problem solving and critical thinking and just understanding what's needed in the industries that are gonna be coming soon for me is really important. And I don't feel that's out there at the moment. School isn't teaching them. So I created a suite of workbooks that basically helps them you know, one, what AI is, how to use it and not let it, it's not gonna, it's not about, cheating on your homework. It's not about, getting all the answers from AI and passing them on. It's about getting it to help and guide you in conversations, conversing with it so that your critical thinking and you are really understanding, topics and conversations that you want to have. So instead of just going out there and starting to use AI with no understanding and no basis, so it's about really understanding how to use AI in a positive way, how to prompt it, how to converse with it, safety around using it, because they're gonna use it regardless, right? I feel and my kids are a perfect example. I, I've popped them onto it and they're gonna be using it

Brooke 17:44

Yeah.

Anna 17:45

but they need to understand that it's not gospel. How to get the right answers out, from it. How to really dive into it in a way that's gonna be, positive for the use that

Brooke 17:55

yeah.

Anna 17:56

they want to use it for. and so that's where it evolved from. And then that also ties into other skills I feel like they're going to need in life, which is, from my, I'm an entrepreneur, so I'm really, that is my conversation at home. But understanding money. What is budgeting, what is the real use of money and trading time for money? And, the skills that potentially they will need as they actually get into the world that, there's a gap of what they are

Brooke 18:23

Yes.

Anna 18:24

So those topics were really important for me, for them to understand. And when I started looking at it, there's not a lot of information out there. There's not a lot of topics about what's actually preparing them for, and especially with the conversation. And they're hearing these conversations at the moment, oh, that, these jobs are not gonna be there anymore. And they, they're

Brooke 18:42

Yeah.

Anna 18:43

know, my 12 year olds mention it to me said, oh, so what does this mean? Mom? We hear all the time that there's gonna be no jobs left. And that's not the case. It's about putting yourself in a position so that you are hireable and you have all the skills and knowledge in this new world that's

Brooke 18:58

Yeah.

Anna 18:58

to put you above the

Brooke 18:59

Yeah,

Anna 19:00

Right? Yeah, I dunno what conversations your kids are having and what kind of weird world they think they're entering into, but I feel like we just need to educate them in a way so that they know what's actually happening instead of hearing all the propaganda out

Brooke 19:14

And that it's all fear or all doom and gloom. It's like reframing it. Like actually this is really exciting. There will be different opportunities. There'll be I think opportunities, like more entrepreneurial opportunities, more creativities. I think human creativity is gonna be highly valued in this like post AI world.

Anna 19:38

Absolutely.

Brooke 19:39

And I think too, also what you said, just learning how to use these tools and also in a way that helps you learn. I don't know if you saw that, there was a study that came out recently where people who had used AI to learn things, but they, it was like passive learning, but they thought that they had learned this thing, like they got AI to summarise it for them.

Anna 20:05

Yeah.

Brooke 20:06

and they felt really confident walking into these exams. And they actually did worse than the people who did like traditional learning methods. But the people who did traditional learning felt less confident and they did better. So it there's this whole thing to like, where it can make you feel like you're understanding it and that's good in the moment, but how if you're not engaging with that learning, it's passive learning and you don't retain that. I think that is a big shift too. That's like, how do we use these models in a way that actually helps people learn, not just feel like they're learning? And I get this a lot, I feel like in the membership, which you're a part of it's getting you all to get your hands dirty rather than talk about doing or watching all the tutorials. It's get in there, build something, try it, do it.

Anna 21:03

Yep. And I think it's also about we're not here to memorise stuff anymore. Memorising stuff is not gonna get you anywhere in life. We don't need that anymore. What we do to a certain point. But like you say, like especially being an entrepreneur, I've learned the most amount of experience from doing it, breaking it, it all went wrong. Having to fix my problems and then solving it to move forward. And I think that's something that's so critical and I think young ones really need to understand. It's just getting in and giving it a go, and understanding things, having it all go wrong

Brooke 21:37

Problem solving is, yeah.

Anna 21:40

of, yeah, it's a problem. Critical thinking and problem solving is huge. And until people really get in and do that themselves, you can read a thousand books. You can summarise and get, get a brief of what it was, but that to actually be able to use it as a skill and experience are two very different things.

Brooke 22:00

So talk me through what the build process for this looked like.

Anna 22:05

Yeah, so guess it came alive because by being in your membership I was really inspired to what was possible. So I guess up until joining your membership, I wasn't actually using Claude code. I was using co-work. We were solving problems, we had scheduled tasks, we were doing things that were making us, smarter and quicker and faster. But the actual build side of things was new to me. So I think I watched one workshop actually it was an epic fail. I couldn't get any of my stuff to load, but that didn't stop me. I think I got off the call and then got everything loaded, everything working, and just went for it. I just started using clo Claude code in a way to just help

Brooke 22:45

Yeah.

Anna 22:45

build it for me. I don't know what I'm doing. Help me do what I wanna do. This is my vision, this is what I wanna do, what can we do to create it? And it literally

Brooke 22:54

It,

Anna 22:54

spitting

Brooke 22:55

definitely,

Anna 22:55

made

Brooke 22:55

wish we had set up.

Anna 22:57

the way but I just kept repeating all the processes, exactly the outputs that I wanted to achieve,

Brooke 23:03

That'd be nice. So point

Anna 23:04

it backwards from

Brooke 23:05

out, yes.

Anna 23:06

it sped me out everything I needed to do. I, it's, it was phenomenal in a space of, if it had been full-time, probably, maybe even three days work at the most. But, the space of a couple of weeks coming in and out of what I wanting to do, I created everything from start to finish. The entire landing pages, the email sequences the sign up the everything that I'm now got a link to, and it's a saleable, downloadable, interactive

Brooke 23:32

Be,

Anna 23:33

was built with code again,

Brooke 23:35

you'll get,

Anna 23:36

a

Brooke 23:36

yeah.

Anna 23:37

And very minimal, real heavy coding

Brooke 23:41

Yeah.

Anna 23:42

Was able to create that. And I think that's what people are not understanding is that it's really that easy just to jump in and give it a go. I think people are really scared and really nervous of what it

Brooke 23:54

If it's gonna break something. Yeah, I find that, you know this, I literally took you on that journey.

Anna 24:02

Yep.

Brooke 24:02

I think it's scary people, there's, people think, oh my God, like my computer's gonna get hacked, I'm gonna break my computer. Something like that when these bash commands come up. And so it's just like walking people through that okay, this is what this means. It's like just asking, can I like write this file to your computer? And I think to hit the nail on the head is just being clear on the outcome that you're trying to achieve with ai and working back from that. So you had this kind of fully formed idea and then it's okay, let's like basically have a project meeting with Claude Code and just

Anna 24:42

pretty

Brooke 24:43

are we gonna build this? Here's what I want it to be. I want it to be interactive. Here's the target audience. I want it to do all of these things. Help me build this. What do we need to consider?

Anna 24:55

Yep. Absolutely. And you know what, like what we just talked about 10 minutes ago about what does the world need? They need critical thinkers and problem solving is exactly what that

Brooke 25:05

Yeah. Yeah.

Anna 25:06

exactly what is holding people back and the people that are gonna succeed. I didn't just go, okay, I dunno how to do it. I don't really know what it is, I'll just stop because I can't go any further. I problem solve and I use critical thinking to get where I needed to be. So it is a prime example of, just getting shit

Brooke 25:23

Yes.

Anna 25:24

You just getting shit

Brooke 25:26

Yes. Love it.

Anna 25:27

in and, but I've had that attitude my whole life and my whole business entrepreneur career. And I think that's what stands most entrepreneurs out from the rest is, that just get shit done attitude. But now we have these tools that enable us to just build so much more and so much quicker. Yeah and like I also had a lot of fun.

Brooke 25:46

Yes.

Anna 25:47

bringing out that creative side that maybe has dropped off because you're so stuck inside your

Brooke 25:53

Yep.

Anna 25:53

so stuck inside, whatever it is that you're working on. It was a really fun outlet. It was a really fun outlet to create something that one is really close to my heart. Something fun and passionate on just an amazing topic. And yeah, it's, as I say, it wasn't smooth. I'm not saying every single step worked but it was incredibly easy what you can create once you just get in and give it a

Brooke 26:16

Yeah, absolutely. Oh, I love that. I love it. You're so inspiring. For others to just

Anna 26:22

Yeah.

Brooke 26:23

a go.

Anna 26:23

the problem is no. Now with an A DHD brain, I have just all these other little bubbles sitting around my brain of all the other little things I wanna do. So I gotta keep myself on focus 'cause I feel like now it is so easy. Yeah. It's very tempting to just jump from project to project. 'cause there's so many cool things you could

Brooke 26:39

Yeah.

Anna 26:40

there's so many things you can create now just by thinking outside the square a little

Brooke 26:44

Yeah, absolutely. I agree. Yeah, so how's the launch going?

Anna 26:51

Yeah. Good. Yeah, we had lots of downloads and we've had really great feedback. So yeah, I just, I just really hope that any families, and I think it is, like we said before, there is a real divide between, ai Yes. No AI for children. Yes and no. And it is an interesting conversation out there. There's been pushback on both sides, but I think, I just wanna reach the people that have an opened mind about where the future's going. And I just really wanna have something to offer them if they are interested in, getting their children to learn a little bit more. My kids have done it, mine, mine, my eight and 9-year-old girls, they've done it. My 12 year old's done it because there is two different workbooks. One's a lot more deeper than the other one. And they all loved it, and they all have a very different view of life. Yeah I got great feedback from them and we've had great feedback from the people that have purchased it. As I say, it's, this is not my million dollar ticket. It wasn't about that, but it's also about giving parents somewhere to go that are interested and that wanna learn and that wanna offer this out to their kids

Brooke 27:49

Yeah.

Anna 27:50

that's what it was all about

Brooke 27:51

Yeah. Because I guess as we know, the school system is very slow to adopt things, so

Anna 27:59

it's,

Brooke 28:00

That's.

Anna 28:00

know, and even in the next five years, will that change? I don't know. And that's a whole different

Brooke 28:05

Yeah.

Anna 28:05

but it's, yeah, for me it's not about being anti school or something that replaces school, it's something that just sits

Brooke 28:12

Yeah. Yeah.

Anna 28:13

to help them as they grow in their, in their next few years in school.

Brooke 28:16

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. It's like something that Yeah. Can be used. It's I don't know, a music lesson or of an afternoon or something like that. It's, yeah. Yeah.

Anna 28:26

Yep, absolutely. And they can, it's not just about what career they'll have, it's about using it to help them with life and with friend circles and for all sorts of kind of things that, you know, that they can utilise it for. But just knowing how to use it right and correctly and, and not in a negative way, I think's gonna be hugely important

Brooke 28:45

Yeah, absolutely. All right, we are gonna head into the AI confession booth now. So this is a little segment that I do at the end, people's occasionally drop in and give me one to read out. But yeah, and normally it's just me with my little like weird almost unhinged thing that I've used AI for lately. Over to you, Anna. What's one kind of weird or unhinged way you've used AI recently? Or it doesn't have to, it could be like, I don't know, creative even.

Anna 29:20

Yep. Look, I think the most out there way I'm using it at the moment is actually as a bit of a therapist. I think I really heavily use it, not Claude. I'm using chat g PT again, what I said at the beginning about keeping it personal it knows a lot about my life and, I'm not scared to put it in there because I'm getting a really great therapist back. I'm getting some really good feedback about my parenting and

Brooke 29:46

yeah.

Anna 29:47

my husband. It's not gospel, but it's a really good

Brooke 29:52

Yet.

Anna 29:52

and, I have been known to crisis scenario situations to jump on and feed in the situation of the moment and ask for some help and direction. And you know what, it's actually been

Brooke 30:05

Yeah.

Anna 30:05

I have really hard moments in my household. We have a chaotic

Brooke 30:09

Yep.

Anna 30:09

It's loud, it's full on, there's a lot going on, but in those exact moments, yeah I have definitely jumped on and asked for some support in that moment and got some great

Brooke 30:18

Yeah.

Anna 30:19

So that's

Brooke 30:19

Yeah. I love that. I love that. I feel like a lot of people who have neurodivergent households can just relate with all of that.

Anna 30:27

Yeah. Yeah,

Brooke 30:29

Yeah. Yeah.

Anna 30:30

It's a bit of support. It's a bit of support.

Brooke 30:33

So I will drop the links to your Future Ready Kids and House of Cart in the show notes. But where can people find you and what have you got coming up if people want to learn more about you?

Anna 30:46

Yeah, absolutely. So I'm pretty active on social, so you can find me at House of Cart on Instagram and also Anna Till Anna Tillson on Instagram for my personal account. You can find us on the links below if anyone's interested in, learning about how to use AI to better their e-commerce and Shopify stores definitely jump into our newsletter. We are constantly sending out information about how that's evolving in the industry. I'm also doing a workshop on the 18th of, June where I am gonna be running through how they can create their own Shopify dashboard inside Claude and how they can AI redify their store as well with

Brooke 31:27

Is saying.

Anna 31:28

information there. So yeah, connect, connect via the socials, connect via our newsletter to stay in touch. And if anyone wants to have a chat or just wants to go through what they're doing with me, they feel free to book a call or, reach out directly. I'm always happy to

Brooke 31:41

Cool. Thank you and thanks for being my second guest on the podcast.

Anna 31:46

thanks for having me. It's been amazing. Yeah. And hey, well done on all your success too. And I gotta say, I love following you along. I have had a lot of clients exactly what I did, which is get covered in algorithm noise, and then just cut everything off completely to just two accounts that I now follow in

Brooke 32:03

Oh,

Anna 32:03

one of them.

Brooke 32:04

thank you.

Anna 32:05

recommend that out to some clients

Brooke 32:07

Yeah,

Anna 32:07

keep doing what you're

Brooke 32:08

thanks. Yeah, I tell people to mute me even if it gets too much. I'm not opposed to that. And yeah, and also Anna is one of my amazing members inside my membership, so I'll drop the link to that below as well. And we will see you on the next episode. Thanks Anna. Bye. Which, that was fun. You did amazing.

Anna 32:31

Good.