Northern Bowl Gathering (UK) Pt1

First of a 2 part special recorded live at the event held in late april 2026 near Durham.

We set the scene on the event and Adam captures field recordings depicting the experience of various attendees.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Hello and welcome to the latest episode of the Tunes and Spoons podcast. This is John speaking. Uh this is the first of a two-part uh episode, if you like, uh that's dedicated to the Northern Bowl gathering that that's just taken place. We've just we've just come from there, me and Adam, um, which took place the weekend uh the 24th to the 26th of April 2026. It's an annual event, uh the Northern Bowl gathering. Um it's been going for about 10 years now to take take away the the lockdown iatus, so there's probably been about seven of them, something like that. Uh and we in in at the end of this second episode of this two-party, uh myself and Matt Whitaker, uh one of the founding fathers, did talk about the origins of it. But that's that's in part two. Um for those unfamiliar with um the Northern Ball Gathering, it's like I say it's an annual event. Um it takes place uh it's uh it's hosted directly by Matt Whitaker uh from his um plot. It's like a a small holding and permaculture site, but they've got livestock too. Uh it's at Broom Park just outside Durham. It's it's it uh it was telling me it's about it's only about a five-minute walk into Durham Town Centre, even though I've never been into it. I've been so close it feels extremely rural. Uh but it's on his land there. Um it's a sm it's a it's a small event that about 120 capacity. Um but it's uh it's a lovely little event. Uh so what what happened what happened in this one was I I I personally got quite involved uh with teaching uh and demonstrating so quite locked in really, but Adam did lots of field recording, you'll learn you'll hear a lot more from Adam, it's almost exclusively Adam after this preamble in this uh episode. Adam went out uh with his as as a roving reporter and got some lovely vox pops to give you a p flavour. He asked the sort of same sort of questions to everybody just to see how people's takes are, different takes are on the set on on the same thing, just about the event, just give you flavour of it, really. Um and I really I when I listened to them, I really enjoyed them, so I hope you do too. We've got about two hours worth of footage, so that's why we split it into two to make it more uh palatable uh in in one sitting. Uh but in this little preamble, I'll j I'll just set the scene for you. So it it it's like um it's like it's it's a rural setting, and you're almost like on the it's like a slither of land that's about 300 metres long, something like that, where all the uh infrastructure is. Uh and it's like on a ridge then, it's looking over a lovely valley uh uh with a river running flu through, and as you look down from from the uh ridge of the uh of of where the actual event is, you look down onto where the camping is. So as you actually approach the Northern Bowl, uh it's called Abundant Earth. I don't know if I said that. Uh it's Abundant Earth that the cooperative's called. Um it's a couple of families that run it as a cooperative. It's totally off-grid, but Matty tells you all about that in um episode two. So I'll leave we'll s we'll leave that for later. Um so as you so as you arrive at the site, the first thing that you that you're greeted by is a a welcome uh marquee with a load of smiling face. It's permanently manned, so if you've never been before, there's somebody there to get you your bearings, make you feel really welcome. When you listen to the Vox Pops, you'll I won't I don't need to keep saying this, but you'll you'll everybody says more or less the same. It's like a Venn diagram, and there's lots of overlapping uh uh experience uh experiences whereby that they all agree over over how welcoming and friendly it is. So you'll be welcome with a with some people who be able to put you uh give you your bearings. It is a small site, so it's quicker to get round. It's all off-grid, uh compost toilets, um the all the water is uh from a well, so that's one of the jobs that has to be done every day, is is is decanting water up from the well to the kitchen. Uh the it always has a central um campfire where everybody musters uh and a kitchen at s kitchen area outside of that where everybody's fed. So yeah, but it's it it's got like a real heart to it. That's the that's the beating heart of it where everybody gathers and musters and and and exchanges friendships and what have you and and conversations. It's uh but it if if if you're somebody who's nervous about uh um social interactions with strangers, it's it's really welcoming, but you can you know you can take it at your own pace. Um it's a really welcoming environment. You'll you you know, you'll you'll no matter how little experience you've got, you'll you'll gain something from it, I I guarantee ya. Um it it's so beyond so the first the first thing is the the welcome intent. There's a little shop to the right there where people uh anybody anybody at all is welcome to put the training and and uh sell sell training. It's it's uh it's like a yoga yoga studio normally, but anybody's welcome to put something on the table in there. And then then you get to the kitchen and the fire. Then beyond that, there's the infrastructure for the uh teaching and the uh the classes and what have you. And that's uh like uh marquees and tents uh so that anybody can be undercover. A from the sun, um obviously B from the rain, but it was the weather the weather this this year was fantastic, so we were really lucky. Um and i it it's predominantly uh pole lathe turning, but there are there are lots of other crafts representers, bowl carving, a lot of natural fibers things. It depends who's on on a given year, who the who the instructors are and what have you. But any anybody's welcome to come and give a demonstration. In fact, they're encouraged to give a demonstration if they've got something to bring. So it's not even though it's called n bowl, it's northern bowl, it's it's not so esoteric. It's much broader than that. That's just that's just its title, really, with basketry, leathercraft, natural dying, with natural plant dying, and uh all sorts all sorts of different things. So there's there's plenty to see and do, um and a lot of a lot of free demonstrations and what have you. Um so you uh even if you don't have a large budget, there's there'll be something for you to do. And a lot of people just come and uh they'll just chill out around the fire and enjoy the ambience of the night where we have lots of singing and storytelling and what have you. Um there is a little bit of space if you wanted to bring bring your own uh lathe along, um, but it is quite limited, it's not a massive space, so it's worth just getting in touch with the the guys that run it before you actually do that, just to make sure there's a little bit of room for you. Uh the two the two the two chief um people that run it is uh Matt Whitaker and Steve Ridd. They've they've sort of um organised it from day one and they they've got a team of volunteers that they that I have on under them keeping everything running smoothly over the weekend. It's it's a lovely little uh gathering. Um You will it i like I say it's called Abundant Earth. Tickets for the event go quick pretty quickly. Um because it's limited to about 120, I think. I think Matty does tell me this uh I'm I'm in the in the when when we have a little chat at the end. But I think it's about 120. Uh and they go on sale, I think this year it was late n uh sorry, in 2025 the tickets for 2026 event went on sale at about uh about at the end of November. R right at the very end of November so people could uh uh gray out the weekend in the calendars for the for the January. So look out for it. They tend to shut the uh site back down again after the event and then it reopens um for uh to let you know about it at the end of November. Now the great thing about this event is that they're really encouraging of the next generation of maybe people that you know can't afford to uh outlay a lot of money on a on on a on attending. So they do have a lovely vi bursary scheme, uh which we we you know we raise raise funds for through raffles and what have you. And if you listened, I think it's yeah, it's in the second in the second of these two um podcasts, Shannon Berry talks about I I didn't I didn't even realise she does a lovely chat. It's it's worth listening to Shannon talking about how she benefited from um from the bursary scheme. I didn't I I w I must admit, I wasn't aware until I I listened to the footage that Adam captured. Shannon gives you quite a good uh le lowdown on on what to expect expect from the bursary scheme. And and when I say her skills now, how she's developed, it uh just just from benefit from that bursary scheme in the first place is really, really encouraging. Um and I'm sure if you if you approach Shannon, she'd she'd she'd give you more information directly if you see her at an event or something like that. I'm I'm sure she'd be more than happy to help you along if if you think you'd benefit from that. So apart from the bursar scheme, another way to get into the event is to is that is that they have lots of volunteers. And again, when the when the site goes live, uh in it'll be November of this this year when when when they're uh selling tickets for 2027. Spoiler alert, there is gonna be another event in 2027. Um there's a yeah, there's a volunteer scheme, so and and that gives you the opportunity to offer to be a volunteer. Um so that's another path into it. Uh like I say, the uh the website is the Abundant Earth, uh and they do have a an Instagram account which has um which the Abundant uh Earth uh site is linked to from that insta Instagram account. Again, it'd be it's called Northern Bowl. Um so you look out for that. Um so this this yeah, sorry, yeah, and uh the there's camping on site. The uh logistics mean that we can't have too many vehicles, so we do we do encourage people if they can to make the way by public transport, car sharing, and then camp when they get there. There's a camping field that's like n near the river, it's which which is quite nice. I won't tell you about the little hill you have to climb to get up to the site from it, but it's uh it'll keep you fit anyway. Um so that that's that that that's a little overview of what what the actual site looks like, it so you know what to expect. Um so the rest of the rest of this um well these two um these two uh episodes is is is me and me and in the first one me and Adam get back together after he's done his uh his flower f uh sorry, his butterfly forging uh charity appeal. So we have a little chat at the start of that. And then it's uh uh the opening s opening speeches from Matty telling us all about what takes part for the weekend, and then we're straight into the vox pops. They're really nice. I uh I it you can hear the i uh well when you you'll listen to them, but when you hear them you can hear that the it just gives you a real feeling for being there when you've got the the the po the polys worrying in the background and the chit-chatter and we've we've tried to keep it as raw edit as we can. We there might be a couple of beeps and bleeps in this one because just we just want to give you raw footage of of of being there, so it's it's gonna be Watson Hall. But it but they are lovely. I I hope you enjoyed as much as I did. Um yeah, so me and Adam catch back up again, and then it's the Vox Pops, and then uh like I say, um one of the really nice things about the event is like I say is the social side and and and we c we all gather around the fire of an evening. Um and there's there's there's lots of musicians, people maybe even the it's the first time they've plucked up courage to to sing in front of other people, it's but it's a really encouraging environment. So I I I would like to share the music with you, but I I don't deem it fair to um to people. You know, it's an in the moment experience really, and I I wouldn't want I wouldn't w want to broadcast something without people's permission. And I it's one of those things where it's it's an in-the-moment experience really, so much that I'd like to show you what it's like to be in that little huddle of an evening listening to the music, I don't I I don't think it's fair to uh you know to share share share people's uh performances without without them knowing about it. But uh you'll you'll have to take me away for it, it's absolutely magical. Um I think that's about it. Um like I say, this is part one of uh two, so without further ado, let's uh let's go to the Northern Northern Ball Gathering in Durham. Right then, Adam, I haven't seen you for ages, what have you been up to? Working. Working, right. Just to set up here. Yeah, just to set a little bit of context, uh we're both at the uh Northern Ball Gathering, mate. Uh in in Durham, hosted by Matt uh Matt Whitaker and Joe Bolton. Uh now you'll have noticed uh the last couple of episodes that Adam hasn't been present, and that's because for a very good reason actually, um which I've sort of alluded to already. Uh you've been busy with a little project, mate, aren't you?

SPEAKER_03 14:13

These butterflies, so it's all live now. Yeah, you alluded it to it in your previous episode that I was doing a secret project, but no longer is it secret. And uh yeah. Myself and a big team uh of of my friends have made five hundred butterflies uh by hand, uh forging them in memory of my mum to raise money for the charity Refuge, which is a charity which runs uh a helpline for women who find themselves in domestic violence uh and such. And they also have refuges to help them get away from that that danger.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Um this uh this is actually the second time you've done this with it's like uh when you when when when Adam's saying friends, it's uh it's it's it's some more blacksmiths who very, very kindly volunteered the time, didn't they mate, to come to your workshop and and and get their heads down and and and work collaboratively, which is really good to see actually.

SPEAKER_03 15:19

It was uh a hard hard day's work. So we had all the like templates laser cut, but we had 500 of them, which all needed hand texturing and like welding onto these stems and like hate treating to get them black. So uh yeah, there was a lot of work involved.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

We'll we'll we'll we'll put a picture up of the butterflies and we'll also put a link up. If you haven't seen it already, we'll put a link up to the the place where you can either purchase one on it or just make a donation towards uh Adam's uh refuge chair. So who who came then? Who were these guys that came along then, Adam?

SPEAKER_03 15:52

Uh well was me, it was James Wood and Oscar, uh Oscar Rush are so they're uh yeah, Greenwood working blacksmiths, everyone had probably heard of them, but then we also had John Nicholson, we had you coming along for a little bit, I had Billy Watson, uh Joe, uh uh AJ. See, these are all people who I don't know who say my first name, eh? Um, who else did we have? Well, your brother came along. My brother Matthew came along, did some filming for us, and then got my friend Hayden, he came along. And I think that might have been everyone.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

I think the f the first one that you did was a couple of years ago, wasn't it, when you did poppies, which was your mum's favourite.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

Two years ago we made some poppies because it was the 10th anniversary of her death. Um and I thought it would be nice to have something nice to think about rather than lingering on the fact that it's 10 years. Make a positive out of a negative, that's exactly that. And she was a really keen gardener, she was the chair person of Garth in Bloom, uh which is an organisation which um it basically wants to make Gartheth a prettier place. And it's and that's and that's nationwide in the UK, isn't it? So in bloom organisations are everywhere. Yeah, they are. Um they're not like connected, it's not like one overall. Isn't that it it's just like each town might have their own in bloom and they're all local volunteers, they have to have to people who like every Sunday morning away will go out and they'll they'll there's like flower beds that they'll plant up and um yeah uh so um so that would that that's obvious that's an obvious link to your mum with the with the flowers with the poppies.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

So what why what made you choose butterflies this time then, Adam?

SPEAKER_03 17:39

So what well the I I was getting my head round it trying to think, oh right, we've done poppies, what else could we do? And then it it suddenly came to me because yeah, she she did like butterflies and um before she died she was in the process of divorcing my dad and uh it was like everything was changing and everyone everything felt like it was being new, and she said that she she felt like her a butterfly coming out of its cocoon. Um and yeah they are very nice.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

If you uh say we'll we'll put a picture up that's gonna be on the uh uh Jones and Spoon's Instagram feed so you can see them. And I get like I say, I'll repeat again. If you if if you could spare anything, you know, uh donate to it, either buy one or just donate whatever you can, that'd be really appreciative. So yeah, thanks for filling us in on that, Adam. Yeah. Um hopefully we're gonna be here a bit more of you going forward now. You have a little bit more time. Yeah, I know you've had to dedicate a lot of time to that, mate, haven't you?

SPEAKER_03 18:40

Yeah, well, yeah, so hopefully, yeah, this this summer is gonna be really fun. I'm gonna be all over, so I'll definitely be a little roving reporter for you. Go on then, where are you going? Give us a teaser. We've got uh Budgers Ball in two weeks. Yeah, and I'll be there as well, so we'll do a bit of roving together, though. I'm off to Belgium to go to Lethelfest or Lepelfest. My my uh Well Butcher! Yeah, yeah, well butchered. Spoonfest, but um uh Sorry Nico. That's gonna be fun. And then it's back here for Spoon Town and Spoonfest. And then off to Germany for Von Hand. Wow. And then uh at the end of August is uh Snitterfest in Denmark, so all over the place.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

Well, so so Adam's gonna be doing and hopefully bringing as much uh footage back from those events as he can. So it sounds like when you're what's what was the last one called? And that's Denmark, is it? Yeah. Yeah. While you're there, I think I'll probably be at tear up. I think tear up uh is at the end of August. So you're gonna get two for one at the end of August, hopefully.

SPEAKER_03 19:45

We've then it's bowl gathering as well, of course.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Yeah, yeah, the bowl gathering down in Wales, yeah, yeah. So oh, what's that? So as I say, we're at we're actually at the Northern Bowl. We're gonna the rest of this uh the rest of this podcast now, it's we're gonna get some little interviews, we're gonna try and give you a flavour of what's happening at the event. I'm gonna chat to some interesting people. I've already we've already lined up two or three potential candidates. We'll have we'll obviously talk about talk to his host, which is uh uh Matty Witty. Steve uh Steve R is one of the chief organizers, isn't he? So um yeah, so yeah, like I said, the rest of this uh this podcast uh uh episode now is gonna be used to get you some footage, try and give you the flavour of what it's like at one of these events. So yeah, well stay tuned. Yeah, see you later.

SPEAKER_09 20:38

Really a fashion. Um the new ones as well. I'm looking forward to meeting who I've not met. So I'm Matt. Um this is Steve. Um we do a lot of the organizations, but there's also some amazing volunteers around, and they will help you out if you need some help. But just come and ask us as well if you're having any problems. Um lovely. Great. Um, yeah, really the whole weekend is just uh a celebration of us all here and the craft that we do. There's so many wonderful crafts going on, and there's so many wonderful craftspeople. And I just feel it's such an amazing opportunity to be able to gather in a field and just celebrate the craft that all of us can achieve in our lives, just with our own two hands, our minds, a sandwich, and a pint of beer. I I think it's an incredible thing, and I really want to preserve that in the world. I mean, AI can it's all got stuff to offer, but I think when all that fails, all we've got is ourselves and our indigenous knowledge that we've we've worked with forever. So uh it's all about that, it's all about sharing, and uh you have a Lovely weekend. We've just got a couple of things we want to say about the courses, about the demonstrations. Let's see who the first thing.

SPEAKER_08 22:08

Right, first of all. Hello, welcome. Tutors, um, can the tutors who are teaching this weekend just pop your hands in the air and um who's doing what? So if you're not sure where your course is happening, can the tutors just very quickly chat the name and where you're doing your course if you're doing it this morning? Who's doing one today?

unknown 22:36

Ali?

SPEAKER_08 22:36

I'm doing play turning today. Play turning with Alibertent.

SPEAKER_07 22:41

Yeah, we're done there.

SPEAKER_09 22:42

All the information is on the courses boards over there. There's a map, courses, and demonstrations over there as well.

SPEAKER_06 22:52

Jenna write down the end of the elevator. Uh Riven in the barn, the fact that the end of the bar.

SPEAKER_08 23:04

Fancy barn. Cool. And I'm doing beginners ball in the big burden as well. Cool. Thanks for that. And volunteers. It wouldn't all come together without our volunteers. So can we just see who they are so you know who to look for sometimes? Give them the big woo. Woo! Thanks for everything so far and all the work that you're going to be doing through the weekend. We've got loads for you. Um just in case, first aiders, um, have we got first aiders in? Quite a few, quite a few people. So, yeah, if if anyone next themselves, um, we've got a first aid box in by hut, a little light uh box over there. There's another first aid kit um with the ladies with me in the middle of the big tent as well. Um if anyone cuts themselves or something like that. If it's anything more serious, come and get one of us and we'll we'll sort that out as well.

SPEAKER_09 24:05

So if you do have a serious injury, um maybe just shout out for a first aider, and then whoever is a first aider and they're close and they hear the cry, maybe you could make the way over. If you're new to everything, knives and tools, maybe find someone to help you out on the beginning of your journey. If you're not on a course, then there are plenty of people gonna be sitting around the fire wiggling, uh, doing whatever. So maybe ask them if you're not sure about what you're doing. But um, yeah, just um just take care with those sharp things. Because there are some very sharp things made by some very talented people for knives, for example. So yeah. Um uh demonstrations are running throughout the day. We've got a few demonstrations going on, uh, mainly by tutors at the moment, um, a couple of non-tutors. So I'm aware that there are some incredible skills here. If you would like to do a demonstration, because there are people here that would love to see it, but there's also some day ticket holders coming in, uh, they would love to see it as well. So if you would like to do a demonstration on absolutely anything, it doesn't matter what it is, please come and let us know, and uh, we'll add you to the demo board today, tomorrow, uh, that would be wonderful. Um craftwood, uh, if you're on a course, that will be provided. If not, and you want to turn a bowl, make a spoon, whatever, the craftwood is at the back of the in between the back of the circus and the burber tent, and we will be cutting that craftwood between 10 and 10.30. So if you want something, um because we need to use the chainsaw, and then we'll be doing it after lunch as well, 1.30 to 2.30. So there'll be someone there with a chainsaw, you can come and put your orders in and uh we'll cut it for you. And outside of that time, uh, you'll have to have to come on your bended knees and see if anyone's uh anyone's got time to do it for you. But we're not letting anybody outside of the chosen few use chainsaws on site for obvious reasons. And I I'm sure lots of us have tickets, but if we could um if we could be sensible with that, that would be great.

SPEAKER_08 26:20

Um in the shop, um, there's loads of amazing stuff already in the shop. Um if you've got any other things to add, uh pop in, I think Anna is looking after the shop. Um Anna's looking after the shop for the weekend. Um so we're taking uh money in the shop between um 12 and 2 and then 4 and 6 um today and tomorrow. So um go see Anna in the shop and there's some incredible crafts in there. We're also having a raffle which um contributes money towards bursaries for people who might find it difficult to come along on here. Um so we've got three people for bursaries, I think. The shirt four. Um it just really helps make the whole craft scene more accessible for people. So if you've got something that you think add this to the drawer, um there's a table in the shop, um, and Anakin add that, or you just go in immediately on your right, it's got a sign on it. Pop something down there. Um there'll be people selling raffle tickets throughout the weekend, will we know that? And we'll do the drawer at lunchtime on Sunday.

SPEAKER_09 27:36

Great. Um lunch if you're on a full day course, lunch is at 1 pm. Uh so tutors are gonna stop around then. They might let you stop for five minutes, they might let you stop for an hour for you to negotiate. But lunch will be served for full day courses months over there at 1 o'clock, and then dinner tonight is gonna be at 6 o'clock. And then after dinner, we'll mooch around. There's there's a little tour of I think seven o'clock. If people want to look around the place, Wilfie's gonna do a tour. Um, yeah, yep. Um then after that, about eight o'clock, eight thirty, people will be gathering around the fire, and Friday night is singing songs and telling tales and poems around the fire. So we sit around and we listen to what people have to tell us in way of their life stories, their things that inspire them in their songs, whatever it is, and we sit and listen all night long. Have you you worked up a new one, Tricky? Good, good, great. And then the one thing to say about that is we live really close to a an estate, and the wind is blowing that way. So at 12 o'clock every night, we have what we call the quietness curfew. It doesn't mean that everyone's got to go to bed, but instead of us all whooping after someone's finished a song, we all just uh do the silent kind of clap after 12 o'clock. And that's so that we don't annoy our neighbours and so that we can run this again, but it's also because people are on courses the next day as well. So some people aren't and some people want to be here on that, but if at 12 o'clock, it can all just chill out a little and no whooping, so people could sleep for their courses. That's kind of what we asked at the 12 o'clock quiet. Okay, got anything else? That's what it is, I think. Yeah, anybody else need to say anything? Kidding, um rubbish. I thought you were gonna say don't touch the fire. Nobody touched the fire, man.

SPEAKER_07 29:56

Just be a woman to make one. We have to take our own rubbish away. Um you know, if you get many bottles here, they might get collected in the morning. You can't find them, but sometimes there's a pile of bottles. If you've done four or five bottles, take them home with you. You know, so if you do find them, take them back. I mean I'm the wish I'm guilty more than anyone. I come in the morning and can't find anyone's stuff with it, no go. That's a good point. We don't have rubbish collections.

SPEAKER_08 30:26

I'm deciding to bottle.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

I've got a question just is any any of the treators got a spare space they need to go any last-minute cancellation.

SPEAKER_09 30:36

I think Yoab might have a spare space, yeah. Uh yeah, I mean, if you do need a course, then the website will tell you what courses are available. So go on the website. Um, but I think this morning Yoav has a spare space. So if anyone wanted to do end grain turning, uh turn up and we'll sort out the money. I don't think the website says that because it was a cancellation.

SPEAKER_08 31:06

Um what is it you're doing this morning, Anna?

SPEAKER_06 31:08

I'm doing local machine.

SPEAKER_08 31:13

That's that's a morning course.

SPEAKER_06 31:14

That's just a half day course. Okay.

SPEAKER_09 31:21

Okay, great. Ah, of course.

SPEAKER_11 31:25

Um yeah, just to say, uh most of you are familiar with the South these days, but uh, we've got Toad Hall over here, which is uh which is uh the uh the centre of games. So uh if you've got a spare 20 minutes, please come over. If you like throwing bits of wood at other bits of wood, I could be your man. Um we've got Skittles, we've got Shop Hakeny, we've got Shopper Board, we've got Toad in the Hole. So come along and have a game, get involved. It's always nice, uh a nice opportunity to have a bit of an icebreaker, meet people you've not chatted to before and play games with them. Uh and on Saturday, so tonight we'll probably calm the games down around nine o'clock so we can really focus on the music. Uh but on Saturday I'll be running a bit of a Toad in the Hole Championship. So um if you want to come and get involved in that, give me a shout. Uh uh it will be um what what time what time do classific uh classification stop on?

SPEAKER_09 32:19

Well it's well dinner is six o'clock, so you know.

SPEAKER_11 32:23

Yeah, so kicking off around around six, so we'll sort of pick who's who's available to start playing in and around eating and uh because it's gotta happen before uh Orin and the gang start playing music. So yeah.

SPEAKER_08 32:34

Okay, well, Will, did you want to say anything about the tour?

SPEAKER_06 32:38

I I I've got to, yeah, I I'd love to give an opportunity for people to get to know this place and this land, this community, and what we've done here over the last 25 years. Um it's the first time I've done this, so uh I've also got a book out as well about permaculture principles. So I'm gonna integrate those two together about how we can use the permaculture principles here. Uh in both the garden and houses and community and various other things we've done. So I and I'll yeah, after dinner, seven o'clock ish. Well then today, and I'll start here.

SPEAKER_08 33:18

Excellent, cheersful.

SPEAKER_09 33:19

Okay, great. Well, if nobody has anything else to say, courses are gonna start very soon, so if you're not sure where they are, there's a map and a keys, which is pretty organized, I think. So have a wonderful day, and we'll see you back here for tea, if not more.

SPEAKER_03 33:42

What's your name and where you're from?

SPEAKER_11 33:46

My name is Kirk Barker. And where I'm from is slightly more complicated than answer. Uh I Well, you can just say where you set off from this weekend. This weekend, I came down from the Highlands actually. I was up near uh Acculty Bowie. Where's that near? It's near Ollopool.

SPEAKER_03 34:06

Alright. Oh that's quite a trek up north, isn't it?

SPEAKER_11 34:09

Yeah, definitely. Beautiful part of the country. Oh, it's extraordinary. Like, yeah, my my godfather um owns a cottage up there uh on a croft. So but yeah, driving back down here took me six hours to get to Edinburgh, stayed the night with a friend, and then another three hours here, so that's quite a good journey.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

Ah, super. So, what are you doing this weekend? Courses, teaching, or maybe something else?

SPEAKER_11 34:31

Maybe something else. Uh I actually am notoriously uh um not a bowl maker. Uh I've been to, I think, I think I've been to five out of six Northern Bowls, and I think I've been to every single one of the Southern Bowls, which I think means I've been to 12 bowl gatherings and I've only ever made one bowl. Um but I f my my function is slightly different. I think what's that? Um I run the games tent.

SPEAKER_04 34:59

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_11 35:00

Toad Hall. Oh, what's Toad? Toad is a game, it's so it's based on a traditional Sussex pub game, which involves a lead topped board and four brass discs, and you throw them from an occhie of eight feet, and you want to try and get the toads in the hole, or you get a point if you get them on the board. And me and some friends discovered a homemade toad board in a pub in Headband Bridge in West Yorkshire when we were about 18. And there were no rules, so we just started making them up, and it has grown and evolved and become a bit of a phenomenon, particularly in the green woodworking world. Yeah, it's uh quite serious now, isn't it? Oh, it's incredibly serious. I mean, to be honest, I I I mean, you know, I don't want to overstate my place here, but I think it's probably the main reason anyone actually comes to these festivals is to play toad.

SPEAKER_03 35:49

To be honest, do you jest? But I I think some people know that might be the case.

SPEAKER_11 35:53

Yeah, I mean we we run we run the the World Toad Championships um at the Southern Bowl gathering in September, but when I'm here or at Spoonfest, I always run like a sort of smaller tournament. So there'll be one tonight actually.

SPEAKER_03 36:10

Has uh any of the teams got any sponsorships or anything like that?

SPEAKER_11 36:15

Well if I like to go into full-time training. I um not not as far as I'm aware, although I do know that Billy Watson and his friend Isaac nicked the toad board out of Dan's workshop and took it to uni with them. And instead of playing sitting around playing PlayStation like normal students, they basically spend every spare moment playing Toad, and they have become incredibly good. Um so much so that that they both routinely beat me now. So yeah. Maybe you'll have to handicap them if they get too good. We could do we could do like a s yeah, like a kind of golf handicap for people. I have been thinking about seeding the the um the competition in September based on people's historical results and and where they came, um, just to make the draw a bit a bit a bit more fair. Maybe you should randomise the teams. That's true, I could pick the teams. Yeah. That would be cruel though. Put a seeded player with someone who's never ever played before.

SPEAKER_03 37:08

Yeah, basically what you need to do, get the good team, put me in their team, I'll bring them right down. Okay. I think uh at at the Bodgers, no, it's Spoontown a few years ago. I th I was in a team with Addo and I thought we'd lost, so I just disappeared. Turns out no, we hadn't, we were still in it, and I just couldn't find me because thank God.

SPEAKER_11 37:29

I was trying to Addo the other day. He's um he made some U-toads, which is a new uh a new wood to make toads out of. I actually got super nerdy this winter. I've Because people keep it it's got it's got so technical, people start uh complaining about the weight of the toads, or you know, because I mean there are specific dimensions, a 65 mil diameter and 18 mil thickness, but then depends what wood you've made them out of, how dense they're how how heavily they land. And um so I weighed all my toads, and there was a pair of uh there was a set of ash toads that Jeff Hannis made that came in at 35 grams, um, and some oak toads that Lee Burton made, which are the heaviest ones that I've got, which were 45 grams, and there were various ones sort of in between. But Dan Watson's got a set that um I don't I don't know, they must have been made of lead or something, that's sort of 62 grams. But Addo, I I texted him and I and I got him to weigh his U toads, and they weren't quite as as hefty as I thought they were gonna be. I think they were 45, 46.

SPEAKER_03 38:31

So, oh my questions have gone away. Hold on. So, yeah, I think that covers covers toad. So You can never cover toad. Yeah, true. We we could talk a lot longer about toad. John probably will at some point. So have you been to Northern Bowl and how many?

SPEAKER_11 38:49

Yeah, well, I think I think I've been to everyone bar one. Yeah? Uh my That's a common answer that keeps coming up. It is, and I think it it it just it does feel like a bit of a family now, you know. A lot of you know, yeah, the same the same people coming every time and that. Um it it it it feels like a real family event. You know, and it's very, very special.

SPEAKER_03 39:13

So what initially made you come into Northern Bowl?

SPEAKER_11 39:17

Because I was involved in organizing the um the the the bowl down at Brookhouse Woods Um and kind of yeah, I I got into I went I moved to live there in 2018. And so was involved in the the it wasn't actually the first bowl gathering because the the guys um Sharif and Will and Aide and Matty and and and all those some of those really f early guys that that that that were kind of rediscovering the craft got together and had a little gathering of their own. I think there was only about 18 or 20 of them in 2017. And then Will decided to do a bigger festival in 2018. Yeah. And then I I think it was that was in September, and I think it was the following April. The Northern Bowl was up here. Right. And um and having had such an incredible time at the Southern Bowl, there was no way I was gonna miss this, so I I slept all the way up here and and found it to be um I think I think this is my favourite festival I've ever been to. Uh you know, it's very small, it's very intimate. There's an incredible sense of community and sharing. Yeah. You know, and that and that and that is sort of no more apparent than for me than than with the music in the evenings. You know, I'm I'm quite heavily involved with all that. And it's I I really love that there's no exclusivity about it. And I think over the years, more and more people, you know, it's very easy for people like myself who are very confident, you know, there's probably half a dozen of us that can play all night, but but actually what make what really brings me a huge amount of joy is facilitating other people and getting others who are less confident to to pull something out of them.

SPEAKER_03 40:58

Yeah, but it's definitely something that's involved because I think my first Northern Bowls, it was mainly just Matty singing here with a few other infludes from other people, and now Matty can't get a song in. Yeah, hardly.

SPEAKER_11 41:09

You know, and it's like yourself as well, you know. I mean, I remember you know listening to you pick, you know, play the banjo when you you sort of more or less only just picked it up like a few years ago, and you've obviously dedicated a lot of time to it because it's it's been a real pleasure to see how much you've improved.

SPEAKER_03 41:24

So do you do any of the crafts which are here? So like at home, like green woodworking, willow weaving, like what what what is it that uh the the skills supplies that drew you here?

SPEAKER_11 41:36

Um I do a little, I sort of um I called the odd spoon. Yeah. Um I've been to a couple of spoon fests, and and I suppose that was the first green woodworking thing that I ever you know that's quite a common theme, I think. Yeah. A spoon is is sort of relatively accessible. You only need a couple of tools, you don't need a great big lathe. It's the gateway drug kit. It is a great wood. Yeah. So I yeah, I um uh through Will St. Clary, like cast a few spoons with him and um So yeah, make maybe a spoon. And as I said, you know, I it's I've been to I think 12 bowl gatherings and only made one bowl. But I I do I do quite like getting on a spindle sometimes. So and again because of the games, so I uh I've turned a few replacement skittles for myself and and actually quite often you'll go to a to a you know a little an old rural pub and you'll find a a bar Skittles table and but some of the Skittles have been lost or eaten by a dog or whatever. So and I and I and I'll go away and I'll and I'll I I'll often take one of their Skittles and go home and measure it and then turn them three or four replacements and either deliver them or send them. And it's just it I don't make any money from it, but it just I just it's a real pleasure to know that hopefully that game can be played when someone discovers it and it's not missing pieces.

SPEAKER_03 42:52

So you've gone over this lightly already, but how have you found the experience of Northern Bowl?

SPEAKER_11 42:59

Um well, yeah, as I said before, really, it it's I think it's very small. You know, I I think there's only sixty or seventy tickets sold, and and then you add in the instructors, volunteers. But it's no more than a hundred. Yeah, there's no more than a hundred, and I think that that is that adds that adds a lot to it in in ways you don't expect. You know, it's nice that by the end of the weekend I always feel like I've and partly this is because I'm so involved with the music and the games, and I really put myself out there, but I feel like I've at least said hello to almost every single person at the festival. And I know the names of probably 90% of the people here, and again, that's that's partly to do with the recurrence of people, but um and and also around the fire as well. You know, at some of the bigger festivals, there's just too many to get around one fire, and then they split off, and there's there's different vibes and different energies going on. Whereas here, because it's small enough and everyone gets around one fire, when everybody's singing a song together. It feels like the energy of the place just vibrates and and and you feel like you're really together with people and very, very present. Um and I love that.

SPEAKER_03 44:09

Excellent. So if you could summarise Nolan Ball in a sentence, what would it be? It's just brilliant.

SPEAKER_11 44:17

It's gentle, it's sweet, it's welcoming, it's inclusive, it's a lot of fun. I think share sharing, I think, is one of the one of the biggest sharing encapsulates a lot, a lot, you know, from from the craft to the food. You know, the way this is you know, the way that food here is is is part of the ticket price. And uh we all we're all eating communally, and that and that again is something that's really missing in the modern world a lot. You know, I think it's really good for us to all sit and eat at the same time and um you know and and and and and again uh it it just it doesn't really feel too freaky here, you know. It's I'll get my bowl of food and and I'll uh just sit next to whoever I happen to be in line with and and carry on the conversation. Uh you know, so it's there's a lot of sharing, music, craft, um, stories, food, games, period times.

SPEAKER_03 45:13

Well, thank you very much, Kirk. That was excellent. Thank you.

SPEAKER_07 45:16

Uh what's your name and where are you from? Uh Alan Edward. Um I now live in Sheffield, have been for 25 years, so I'm just settling there. Excellent.

SPEAKER_03 45:28

So what are you doing this weekend and are you doing a course? Uh this we Are are you just here to i enjoy yourself or or like yeah, why why are you here?

SPEAKER_07 45:40

Um I'm here to really in enjoy myself. Uh pick up a few tips. Um I'm not doing a course, um, but I'm busy around the fire most of the time. Adding the odd piece of wood to it. Yeah. Really interesting.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

So like have you been to Northern Bowl before and like what made you come to Northern Bowl?

SPEAKER_07 46:00

Um I've been to Northern Bowl since the second one. Um I have no idea. I don't doubt. And um the reason I came is because I heard uh people have really enjoyed them when they come here. And I'm into green woodworking in you know all aspects of green.

SPEAKER_03 46:24

Well that leads nicely into the next question. Like, do you do green woodworking or any of the other crafts which are represented this weekend?

SPEAKER_07 46:31

Um Yes, uh do uh a bit of bowl carving. I don't do bowl turning. Um I you know obviously make yawn food, chair, gate, anything uh relating to green woodworking. Um I just enjoy the skills and I love all sorts of um you know crafts that go in, basket making, etc.

SPEAKER_04 46:57

Oh nice.

SPEAKER_07 46:58

And so how have you found Northern Bowl and like the general experience here? Um it is very much um an easy-going experience, very friendly, you know, and everyone is very welcoming to new people who come here.

SPEAKER_03 47:15

Nothing. And if you could summarise Northern Bowl in a sentence, what would it be? Fantastic. Well, a very brief air. Amazing. Thank you very much, Alan. Right, okay, say something. Bonjour, bonjour.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

Excellent, it sounds like we're going. So, what's your name and where you're from? Uh my name's Tim, and I am from London. Sorry, no. Um what are you doing this weekend? Are you doing a course? Um I'm doing a uh hook turning. Hook turning? Hook forging workshop tomorrow with Matty. And today I'm just trying to remember how to turn a bowl.

SPEAKER_03 47:57

Oh, right, so yeah, by by hooks you mean bowl hooks. I do.

SPEAKER_02 48:01

I don't mean spoon knives, I mean bowl hooks. What what made you choose that course? Uh depends if you want the truth or not. Someone else booked it and they decided that too many courses was the number that they had, so they gave me one. Okay. And I thought I've made a couple of hooks in the past and they to varying degrees of success, and I figured probably learning from math is the best way of holding that in and maybe having a bit more success rate in my next forging adventure. Yeah. Yeah, so uh have you been to Nolan Bowl before? How many? I have. I've been to two. This is my third. I have uh had a year off last year because I couldn't come because of a wedding. But uh it's nice to be nice to be back. What made you come to Northern Bowl? In the first place. Yeah. Uh yeah. I helped run Spoonfest, and there's a lot of other stuff that happens around the same time, and I'm just too busy. Uh and I heard really good things about this one. I like how small it is. Uh I feel like you can kind of get around and speak to everyone within the weekend, which is really nice.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

Yeah, it's got if you maybe small isn't the right word, maybe just like Intimate. Intimate, cozy, lovely, perfect. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but you you are right compared to like likes a spoon face. Compared to like Budgers Board and Spoon Face. It is a lot smaller, but it it's by no means It's not tiny. That's not a negative because it's not small, no. It's it's almost a positive, really. I would say it's definitely a positive. Yeah. So yeah, do you do any green woodworking or any of the other relevant crafts at Northern Bowl?

SPEAKER_02 49:37

Uh I teach bowl carving back in London. Yeah. And I teach some knife forging, and I teach stall making. I haven't had a go at any kind of brush or rush stuff. That's probably in my near future. Sounds like next year'll be doing some bowl turning. Maybe. Uh probably not teaching it though. But I think uh too much fach, too much stuff. So stick to what I'm stick to what I know for the time being. So, what's your experience of Norm Bowl? How you found it? It's uh very welcoming. We've always had good weather, very cold at night, uh, but we we survive, and it's just a good everyone's very generous with their knowledge, even if you're not on a class, yeah. Uh which is really nice because sometimes you don't want the full class experience, but you do need a little bit of a helping hand. Um I find there are a lot of people around that are happy to do that, which is which is nice.

SPEAKER_03 50:32

Yeah, and then if you could summarise Northern Bowl in a sentence, what it'd be about pure unadulterated joy. Excellent. Well, thank you very much. Hello, what's your name and where do you come from?

SPEAKER_05 50:48

Hello, my name is Peter, Peter Kovac, and I came from Skipton at the moment, which is Yorkshire. Super. And so what's your plan for this weekend? What are you doing? I uh well I'm going to probably put my feet up a little bit and make connection with all my friends, all the craft people. This is the first uh season opening event of the craft festival season in the summer. So you're not doing any courses or anything like that? Uh very unlikely because I just I just really like to sit on the sideline and just watch people having fun and making a lot of good things.

SPEAKER_03 51:22

So have you been to Northern Bowl before and how many have you been to?

SPEAKER_05 51:26

Yes, I think this is gonna be my fourth one, I I reckon. Alright. And um the weather is incredible, so I'm really looking forward to it. What made you come to Northern Bowl initially? What makes you keep coming back as well? Well, this was the closest car festival I went to me and where I live, but also I really love that how small it is and how rural it is. So it's really just you really get to know people really intimately in a way. Well, it depends on how far you want to go with that, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:55

If you want to talk to people here, you get the chance to. It's uh you don't have to fight over people, do you? That's for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Alright, so do you do green woodworking or any of the other relevant crafts or the crafts that I've been showcased here this weekend?

SPEAKER_05 52:11

Yeah, I think I'm gonna carve some spoons. Uh, if I have a chance and get a late, I might try to turn the ball, but I'm still very novice today.

SPEAKER_03 52:18

Yeah, yeah, but it is is that what you do at home as well? Uh what carving spoons or yeah, yeah. Like what what what what here do you do at home or in your own time or whatever?

SPEAKER_05 52:30

Yeah, well, it's I do all the things at at home as well because I try try to make my living from it as well. Yeah. Selling my my wares, but what do you make? Well, I make uh I make tools, I make uh axes, uh, and make knives by mainly doing the sheath and the handles. Yeah. And then calf spoons and some kitchen wear as well.

SPEAKER_03 52:47

They do uh a nice job because you do yeah, but the leather work and the woodwork. Really go to town on it. It definitely like blows mine out of the water, that's for sure. Oh uh, but very nice.

SPEAKER_05 52:59

Well, hopefully I can uh I can get the metal work at some point on the control as well, and then I will be unstoppable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:05

Oh, definitely. Yeah, yeah. Maybe I should like throw some like red herrings your way so you can't quite get to that level.

SPEAKER_05 53:12

Try this aluminium to four knife from.

SPEAKER_03 53:15

Yeah, great. Oh, so how have you found your experience of Northern Bowl?

SPEAKER_05 53:21

Oh, it's it's been it's been always incredible, and you know, the moment that everyone sits around the fire having their dinners or just have a sing along, yeah. It really comes together, and every face becomes very familiar really quickly because there's so many, so few people here. Yeah. And uh yeah, even if there's a new face coming immediately, just sit down next to someone and they become best buddies in five minutes.

SPEAKER_03 53:41

Yeah, it's it's very hard to be a stranger here, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 53:44

Yeah, definitely. Come really stick out like a thaw thumb.

SPEAKER_03 53:47

Yeah. So if you had to summarize Northern Bowl in a sentence, what it'd be?

SPEAKER_05 53:53

Uh I would say it's uh a friendly making circle. That's what I would say. Amazing. All right, well, thank you very much, Peter.

SPEAKER_03 54:06

No worries, my pleasure. Hello. What's your name and where you're from?

SPEAKER_00 54:11

Uh my name's Viv. I am from the Lake District.

SPEAKER_03 54:15

And what are you doing here this weekend? Courses, hanging out, teaching?

SPEAKER_00 54:20

Maybe mainly just hanging out this weekend. I've been a few years before, but um and to like taught and done classes and so on, but it's mainly just nice to be here and watch it all and chat to the people and everything.

SPEAKER_03 54:31

Super. So if you've been to Northern Bowl, how many have you been to before?

SPEAKER_00 54:36

Oh god. Um maybe four, maybe three? I don't know how long it's been running for, actually, is it?

SPEAKER_03 54:42

No one seems to know how long it's been going.

SPEAKER_00 54:44

Forever. It's it's never not run, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 54:46

Everyone seems to think they've been to all of them except the first one.

SPEAKER_00 54:50

I have no idea how many there were, so I'm gonna go with three or four.

SPEAKER_03 54:54

Oh what made you come to Northern Bowl?

SPEAKER_00 54:57

That's a good question. I don't know how I first found out about it, actually. That's a very good question. Damn, I should have done my homework. Um I don't I think it might have just been like Instagram or something, or I'd seen like some people that I followed must have posted about it and I've wanted to like learn some laid.

SPEAKER_03 55:15

Alright. So what makes you keep coming back to Northern Bowl then?

SPEAKER_00 55:18

Um the people, all of the interesting courses. Just yeah, there's so many there's so many interesting conversations about craft around the fire and everybody has lots of interesting perspective and sort of the informal conversations as much as the classes, I think.

SPEAKER_03 55:33

So are you green woodwork or or or do you do something else that's relevant to Northern Bowl, like willow weaving or whatever?

SPEAKER_00 55:40

Um yeah, sort of green woodwork, but not so much anymore. So I for the last like ten years or so I've I've done green woodworking, but now we're gonna do more um like conservation and joinery.

SPEAKER_03 55:49

But it doesn't mean that this, you know, isn't like it's what kind of conservation and joinery are they linked or is it like looking after birds whilst also making Oh is in like historic buildings, yeah, like framing and craft and not wildlife conservation.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

No, no, no, no, no. I mean it's all it's that's still relevant as well, though. Like part of the benefit of this is you have to understand the material of the wood or the leather or the metal or whatever it is you're working with, and you have to understand that to be able to make the thing, and that's the same with any craft, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 56:15

So yeah, super, yeah, that that sounds really quite interesting, really. Yeah, because haven't you started a new business in this recently?

SPEAKER_00 56:25

Yeah, my um my friend James and I have started a business uh called Dendro. So we want to we're doing more kind of new timber framing, so like medieval post and beam timber framing timber framing, like wooden peg joints.

SPEAKER_04 56:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:36

Um so we're doing a load of training alongside starting the business and doing more kind of timber framing jobs. But we use green wood for um doing that sort of timber framing as well, so it's all you know, it's all relevant, it's just kind of bigger scale and structural same.

SPEAKER_03 56:48

Amazing. So how have you found your experience of Northern Bowl?

SPEAKER_00 56:53

Good, very good. Excellent. It's yeah, it's always such a nice environment. There's like so many, so many people who know a huge amount and are always willing to chat and always willing to help. Or yeah, it's it's it's fantastic. So I thought there was a couple of years ago when I was here, I was I think I rented a late to end up to like try and turn something, and I ended up with like six different people teaching me, even though it was sort of not really an official class. So yeah, it's that sort of place.

SPEAKER_03 57:19

And then if you could summarise Northern Bowl in a sentence, what would it be?

SPEAKER_00 57:23

Oh no. Um no, that's not the sentence. Um good for the soul startup, good for the soul and bringing in summer, I think. Because it's lovely that it's in spring.

SPEAKER_03 57:38

Yeah, you're right. Well, thank you very much. That's perfect. Great. We're on, excellent. Right, uh let me get my questions up.

SPEAKER_11 57:48

So what's your name and where are you from?

SPEAKER_10 57:53

My name's Oren. I'm from Northumberland.

SPEAKER_03 57:56

So, what are you doing here this weekend? Teaching, courses, relaxing. What's the plan?

SPEAKER_10 58:02

Uh today I've been relaxing. I've been playing some music. Nice um and tomorrow I'm gonna turn a plate with Ali. Excellent. What kind of music should I play? What instrument do you play? I play the guitar and the mandola. Um I play probably predominantly folk folk music. Nice. Um, yeah. And is that with other people here? I was playing with other people, yeah. We had a nice jam with with uh with a couple of other guys. Excellent, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:30

I like how taking that too. Yeah. Have you been to Northern Bowl before and how many times, if you have?

SPEAKER_10 58:37

I think maybe six or seven times now, and it's really one of my favourite weekends of the year. It's become a very important moment uh to join in and contribute where I can and enjoy.

SPEAKER_03 58:50

Excellent. Um like like uh what wise access? What wise is it becoming?

SPEAKER_10 58:56

I just love the people that are drawn here, I find it very interesting. I love um um um seeing everyone's skills. Um uh the music around the fire is great. Oi that was uh big steamy pot of water going on the floor. Fortunately, not on anyone's legs. You alright, Ian? It seems alright.

SPEAKER_03 59:22

Anyway. Everyone's okay. Anyway, so do you do like green woodworking or any relevant cracks, you know? Anything that might relate to here? Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 59:34

Well yeah, I'm just a hobbyist really. I uh I I've carved the odd spoon, turned the odd bowl. Yeah. Um and I I I'm a joiner really by um by profession, so I work like I do um I love working with wood. So what made you come to Northern Bowls? Um good friends with Matt who runs it. Right. And so um You twisted your arm then, did you? He twisted my arm, but not very hard, yeah. Uh and as soon as as soon as I came the first year, I was just yeah, I just thought, oh, this is fantastic. And it's it's local for me. I'd love to go to more greenwood working events, but um uh it's not quite been possible the last few years around the country. So I spite it. Yeah, I'd like to get it.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:18

Well, it'd be nice to see you at more for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:21

And then if you could summarise Northern Bowl in the sentence, what'd be um community heart and noises of woodworking.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:36

Excellent. Well, thank you very much. Thank you very much, Adam. That concludes part one. How nice for those interviews I hope you enjoyed as much as I did. It just makes you realise how uh how much more articulated some of those people out of the night. If you enjoyed that, even if you did, it's gonna be more of that.