From Corporate to Called (with Joy Rowland) | When You Know There’s More

In this powerful episode of She’s BEYOND Elevated, Dr. Kimberly Dunlap sits down with income strategist and business coach Joy Rowland to talk about what it truly means to go from corporate to called.

This is not a reckless leap conversation.
 This is not a quit-your-job-tomorrow conversation.
 This is a strategic, aligned, income-elevation conversation.

Joy shares how she helps women elevate their income doing what they love—without burnout, desperation, or hustle culture. Together, we unpack what happens when your calling becomes louder than your comfort and how to build aligned income streams that honor both purpose and practicality.

🔥 In This Episode, We Discuss:

• The emotional and strategic signs you’re being called to more
• How to transition from corporate identity to purpose-driven income
• The difference between being talented and being monetized
• How to structure your offers for consistent revenue
• What it actually takes to build $10K months sustainably
• The power of clarity and positioning in scaling your income

If you’ve been feeling the tension between stability and calling, this episode will give you language, strategy, and courage.

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🌐 Connect with Joy Rowland

Website:
 https://www.joyrowland.com/

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 https://www.linkedin.com/in/joyrowland/

Instagram:
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YouTube:
 https://www.youtube.com/@JoyRowlandx

Host of: The Next Level Women Podcast

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Transcript

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 Yeah.
 
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 Beautiful welcome back to she's beyond
 
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 elevated if you're listening to my voice
 
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 right now, I just really want to
 
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 tell you thank you thank you for
 
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 being here thank you for coming back
 
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 for. Season 2, thank you for
 
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 choosing to start this next chapter,
 
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 this next journey and choosing to
 
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 do it with me. So season
 
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 2 is officially here and this
 
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 season is really different. Mostly last
 
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 season we did.
 
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 Solo interviews or solo episodes
 
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 with myself. But this season
 
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 it's deeper, it's it's bolder,
 
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 it's more honest, and it's
 
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 going to challenge you in
 
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 ways that don't just inspire
 
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 you, but really activate you.
 
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 It's going to inspire movement.
 
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 On your part, it's going to get
 
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 you into the space where you want
 
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 to do something different. This season.
 
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 We're talking about elevation in real
 
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 time and not just the theory around
 
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 it not having it perfect when you
 
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 do it, but what it actually looks
 
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 like to step into. His ability to
 
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 take ownership for the things that you
 
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 want in your life and even to set
 
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 yourself apart as the authority in your
 
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 life, even when it feels uncomfortable.
 
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 We're doing it scared. We're going to
 
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 show you how to do it scared. Fear
 
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 is not. To be
 
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 crippling fear is to make
 
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 you aware that there's something
 
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 great on the other side.
 
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 So the season 2 will
 
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 feature some amazing guests, women,
 
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 experts who are doing powerful
 
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 work in identity, in wealth
 
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 building. And leadership, even
 
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 mindset, and especially divine
 
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 alignment and purpose. But
 
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 before. I
 
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 bring anyone else into this space before
 
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 we start those conversations with anyone
 
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 else. I
 
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 feel that I need to start
 
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 here because before strategy, before
 
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 branding, before positioning, there's
 
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 something many women are still missing
 
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 and that's permission to shine. And
 
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 today we're talking about why so
 
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 many brilliant women stay hidden and
 
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 what it actually cost. You to
 
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 remain unseen. Now let's tell the
 
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 truth. Most women
 
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 don't struggle with skill, right? They
 
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 struggle with visibility. You know what
 
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 you do, you know that you're good
 
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 at it you you've earned the right
 
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 to be in that room, to be
 
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 in that space, to be in that
 
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 seat. But when it comes time for
 
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 you to. Speak up for you
 
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 to post the content or to
 
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 pitch the offer or or build
 
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 your brand or position yourself as
 
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 the expert. You hesitate and Ouch,
 
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 because this is me as well.
 
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 I'm. I'm not speaking to just
 
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 you, I'm speaking from a place
 
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 where I have. And as
 
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 It's not because you're unqualified. It's
 
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 because somewhere along the way you've
 
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 learned the Shining was dangerous. You
 
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 were accused of being too loud
 
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 or too confident, too masculine, even
 
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 just being too much altogether.
 
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 Visibility really isn't about ego.
 
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 Visibility is about responsibility. When
 
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 you hide, you don't just
 
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 protect yourself, but you withhold
 
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 solutions from people who have
 
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 been, who've been assigned to
 
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 you. You've been assigned to
 
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 those people and. How
 
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 selfish is that? Right? There
 
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 are people assigned to your
 
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 voice, to your perspective, to
 
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 your lived experiences, and they
 
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 can't find. Away
 
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 to get on the other side
 
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 of that because you're shrinking now,
 
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 beautiful. We're going to pause right
 
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 here just for a quick message
 
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 and when we come back.
 
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 We're going to talk about what
 
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 it really means to position yourself
 
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 as an expert without pretending,
 
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 performing, or even being someone you're
 
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 not. Stay right here.
 
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 Before we get into today's episode, let
 
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 me share something with you that I
 
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 use personally in my business. Today's
 
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 episode is sponsored by Go High Level
 
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 and yes, I am a proud affiliate
 
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 because I don't recommend anything that I
 
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 don't use myself if you're a coach.
 
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 Consultant, service based entrepreneur
 
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 who's tired of juggling 567 different
 
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 platforms to try to efficiently run
 
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 your business? Then Go High Level
 
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 emails, text messaging, calls.
 
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 Calendars. Webinars.
 
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 Even automation all in one place
 
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 for me. Time freedom is non
 
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 negotiable, legacy doesn't require
 
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 burnout and go high level helps
 
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 me build a business that works
 
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 with my life and not against
 
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 it if you want to explore
 
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 it. For yourself, you can learn more by
 
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 using the affiliate link in the show
 
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 notes. Now let's get back to the.
 
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 Now let me be very
 
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 clear. Being an expert does
 
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 not mean that you know
 
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 everything's OK. It means you
 
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 know enough to lead someone
 
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 one step forward.
 
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 Expert positioning is about clarity. It's
 
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 about being clear, not being perfect.
 
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 It's about owning what you already
 
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 know instead of waiting for someone
 
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 externally or something outside of you
 
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 to validate what you know. You
 
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 don't need another credential. You don't
 
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 need another um, degree. You don't
 
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 need any of that. You just
 
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 need to be confident in what
 
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 you know and be consistent in
 
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 showing up for yourself. Now, when
 
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 you stay invisible, you pay an
 
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 emotional cost. You begin to resent
 
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 the people who. Are visible right
 
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 almost almost envy envious because they
 
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 are able to be their authentic
 
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 self and you have a fear
 
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 of showing up that way for
 
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 yourself you question your worth you
 
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 start to ask yourself, well maybe
 
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 I'm not worth everything that I'm.
 
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 Asking for imposter syndrome really sets
 
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 in. You feel so overwhelmed that
 
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 even though you know that you
 
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 are someones solution, you continue to
 
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 hide behind all of those things.
 
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 Now. Visibility isn't about being seen
 
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 by everyone, it's about being seen
 
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 by the right. People being
 
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 seen by the people who
 
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 are assigned to your voice.
 
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 seen by the people whose solutions are
 
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 embedded in your answers.
 
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 thought, because this next part
 
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 actually matters.
 
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 I want you to hear
 
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 this clearly.
 
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 No one is coming to give
 
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 you permission. Not your job, not
 
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 your family, not the Internet, not
 
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 your older sister. No one. You
 
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 don't need permission to be confident.
 
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 You don't need permission to even be
 
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 visible. You don't need permission to
 
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 shine. You just need to decide that
 
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 hiding is no longer an option. I
 
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 have a wonderful guest who's coming on
 
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 this season, and she often says I'm
 
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 unavailable for that.
 
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 When you decide that you are
 
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 unavailable to be hidden any longer
 
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 is when you give yourself permission
 
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 to shine. You give your yourself
 
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 permission to be visible. Now this
 
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 season, you're going to hear from
 
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 guests who faced doubt, resistance.
 
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 Bankruptcy, who experienced complete
 
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 mental breakdown, physical breakdown, but
 
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 they all have one thing
 
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 in common. They still continue
 
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 to show up. We talk
 
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 about visibility without burnout. We
 
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 talk about wealth generation without
 
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 self. Betrayal. We talk about being
 
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 the first person that looked like
 
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 them in that space. We've talked.
 
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 We're talking about them walking out
 
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 on what everyone else declared as
 
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 their level of success and walking
 
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 in their purpose and walking in
 
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 their alignment. We're healing. Them
 
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 and they're showing us how to
 
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 heal without being shameful. This season
 
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 is about becoming the woman your
 
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 future requires that you are right
 
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 now. I want to leave you
 
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 with this question.
 
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 If I gave you
 
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 permission to shine fully
 
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 OK, who would you
 
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 disappoint?
 
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 And why does it matter more than
 
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 what's calling you and what you've been
 
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 purposed to do?
 
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 I want you to sit with
 
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 Because the world does not
 
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 need another hidden genius. Hidden
 
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 means covered. So no
 
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 one's going to see it.
 
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 It needs you
 
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 visible, positioned, bold,
 
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 confident, and unapologetic.
 
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 Well, beautiful, Thank you for starting
 
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 season 2 of She's Beyond Elevated With
 
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 Me. Share this episode with a woman
 
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 who's been playing small, not because she
 
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 lacks the ability, not because she can't
 
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 get the job done, but because she
 
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 forgot that she's allowed to shine.
 
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 In this space, in this time,
 
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 in this day, and until next
 
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 time. You weren't
 
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 born to blending. You were
 
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 born to break ceilings, break
 
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 out of boxes, and break
 
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 generational curses. Stay bold. Stay
 
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 brilliant. Stay beyond elevated. Until
 
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 next time. No.