S1 - E6 - Our Grinds (Season 1 Wrap)

In our final episode, we’re shaking things up and getting real about the struggles we’re currently working through.

In this episode:

Carly shares her grind of stepping out more boldly in evangelization.

Raleigh opens up about the challenge of helping her kids navigate a culture she’s still trying to understand herself.

We’re ending this season with honesty, growth, and a reminder that the grind is where transformation happens.

We’d love to hear from you!

Episode References: 

<>< Catechism of the Catholic Church 2204: The Domestic Church: The Christian family is called a "domestic church" because it is a community of faith, hope, and charity. It is the first and foundational place where children learn to pray, read God's Word, and serve others.

<>< Catechism of the Catholic Church 2205: A Reflection of Divine Communion: The family mirrors the loving communion of the Holy Trinity. Parents share in God the Father's work of creation by bringing new life into the world and educating their children.

<>< Catechism of the Catholic Church 2206: A Community of Mutual Respect: Family relationships thrive on affection, mutual respect, and shared interests. The family acts as a privileged community where spouses deliberate and cooperate as parents in the upbringing of their children.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:03

Welcome to the Lord and the Prime, the podcast where we explore the beauty and the struggles of living out our public space.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

I'm your host, Carly Flynn, and I'm also here, still here, Holly Coach. We're just two friends finding grace in the grind of motherhood and ministry while literally just doing our best. Doing our best? That's all I can do. That's my best. We take your questions from Life in the Grind and look for the glory woven into your story. Today's episode's gonna be a little different. We're gonna shake things up because this is our last episode of season one. Which we have I think it's taken us like over a year probably to record season one.

SPEAKER_00 0:42

It has not. It hasn't, but like it feels like it's been a year, but it hasn't been.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Think about where we were when we first started and think about where we are now. I think it's been four months. That's a lot of change. It's been five months.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

No, it oh my gosh, has it been six months?

SPEAKER_01 0:59

Anyway. Anyway, it's been at least it's been at least two semesters.

SPEAKER_00 1:04

Let's say well, it's been at least six months since we started actually like working on it and not just talking about it. We started talking about it over a year ago.

SPEAKER_01 1:13

Well, yeah, we started talking about it like I think maybe when my youngest child was still like Well, you were watching Reese.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

I was going to your house every day because you were babysitting Reese for me while I went to work.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

Okay, so it's been a minute, and our little ones are getting ready to start like real school. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

I mean, Reese's third birthday is at the end of the summer.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

My third. Her third birthday is gonna be on Cinco de Mayo, and I refuse to do a Cinco de Mayo party for her.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

Sure. And so she is like make it like a month of Mary party instead of a Cinco de Mayo.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

I know, I'm full of good ideas. Can you imagine all of our like family members and friends coming and be like, dang it, these people everybody has to wear blue and a veil to come to the party. No sinners allowed. No, I'm just joking.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

Then no one can then I guess we can't come. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

We can't come. Sorry. Claire can go. That's it. Just the baby.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

That would be fantastic. But yeah, so it's been a minute and we have recorded. This is our seventh episode, and we already have been recording and uploading and all the things, but we haven't really shared it yet. We haven't really told anybody publicly out loud. It's on YouTube, it's on other places. Go watch it. So this is like a quiet little moment before we share with the world and where we can just think about what we've been up to and where we find ourselves in the grind and where the glory is being woven into our stories. So I'd love to just reflect on that with you, Raleigh.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

Yeah, me too. And I think it's I'm happy you pointed that out that we haven't like uploaded anything or shared anything. Like you and I have we have an Instagram account right now that we've been uploading to, but we haven't like gone through adding friends and sharing it with friends. Like our closest friends, I think our husbands know.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Um, but we haven't like made that leap yet. So I'm interested to see what our final episode looks like in season two after a whole season of having everything out there and how like maybe it's it's changed the way that we are emboldened to speak or or whatnot.

SPEAKER_00 3:15

Um I really think the Holy Spirit is just going to bless our efforts and not necessarily in like obvious ways. I just mean like I think you and I will feel more like ourselves for having done this because this is our gifts and talents, is sharing and teaching and mentoring and ministering. Like that's what the Lord has given us the talent to do. So we will feel more like ourselves having done this and then being able to reflect on it and kind of see what fruit came of it. At the very least, I believe it will bear fruit in our own hearts to just sort of surrender our gifts to the Lord and see what he does. And that's what we all can do. That's any of us can do it. It's really, really good. So for this episode, friends, we do want to model a little bit of that for you about what does it look like to minister to one another? What does it look like to, you know, sort of be vulnerable and open in our relationships with one another? Because that's what we did for all of the episodes of the season. We took real questions from real people living out their Catholic faith that are in similar journeys or similar seasons to us, and kind of said, like, this is what our knowledge, because we've got a little bit of extra theological knowledge and what our experience has borne that we can share with you. And so hopefully that was really fruitful. But Raleigh and I also have our own grinds. Raleigh and I also have our own things that we are trying to get better at that maybe people in a season of life ahead of us or people with even more knowledge than us, like we say in every episode, we do not know everything. Take it with a grain of salt, the things that we say and hold it up to the church to clarify. But we've got our own grinds and things that we're growing in. And one of the wonderful pieces of our lives are our opportunities to have holy friendships and holy relationships where we can lean on each other and kind of um, you know, edify one another, but also support one another. So we are gonna do that today, Raleigh and I, for one another to model that for you, but also to show you that like we're all on a journey.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

What are your thoughts there, Roll? And these are conversations that Carly and I would have anyway. So we're really just recording it because we needed a seventh episode. So like that's what this is. Also, though, we say take things with a grain of salt, but we're from southern Louisiana and like we use salt, but we use Tony's sasheries seasoning on everything. So I think personally, I'm gonna start saying take everything with a grain of sad with a grain of Tony's.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

A grain of Tony's. I spent $18 on Tony Sacheries this week. Why? Why so much? Did you buy like a gallon? No, long story short, I'm not gonna make um I'm not going to make a public declaration about the grocery store that failed me, but a grocery store failed me this week, and I ended up paying $18 to get two containers of Tony Sasheries when I had ordered a bunch of other things. So that's all I'm gonna say. But it's it, you will pay for it. I will pay for it. I will use it 100%. We call it the magic blanket.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Something doesn't taste good thing, you just eat Tony's and you're good. I think that's why people think like, oh, the South has such good food. People in the South can cook. I'm just like, we really can't. We just put Tony's on everything, and that just I made I made shepherd's pie this week and I put Tony's sasheries on.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

You did. I don't think that's in the Irish spice palette, but that's what I use.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

No, for those of you who are not Carly and I, I called her on St. Patrick's Day, and we were like just jamming about what we're gonna talk about in the episode. And I'm like, oh, I'm doing this. What are you doing? She's like, Oh, I'm just making shepherd's pie right now, I'm boiling potatoes. Someone's like, Oh, you're boiling potatoes for St. Patrick's Day. And then she said she couldn't do the Irish accent because it would sound more Jamaican.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

I'm not even gonna try. But my last name is Flynn, Raleigh. I gotta do something on St. Your Irish by marriage.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

I know. Your maiden name is Trapanier.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

I know. So we use Tony's when we make our shepherd's pie, okay? I'm a Cajun Irish little mixed person, and here I am. That's right. And that's how we make shepherd's pie. It came out pretty good. I I ate it twice. It was delicious.

SPEAKER_01 7:18

You canks. I'm proud of you. All right, well, let's get into what this episode's about. It's Carly and I's grinds. So, really the things that are not troubling us because we trust in the Lord, but they are still things that cause us to have a little bit of anxiety, a little bit of worry, mainly because we don't have the answers and it's unsettling as a parent to not have answers. So I have a grind, Carly has a grind, and we're just gonna try to help each other through it as best we can. So, Carly, why don't you go ahead and share? What is your grind?

SPEAKER_00 7:46

Raleigh, I don't remember which grind I shared with you the other day because I have so many grinds.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

You I know, I know. Um, I liked your one about evangelization.

SPEAKER_00 7:57

Okay, yeah, so I'll share that one. Um, I have a grind where you guys, if you're listening, listeners, you know I got a podcast where I talk about my Catholic faith. I'm not afraid to talk about my Catholic faith. I worked in Catholic education for 13 years and I currently work for Hallow. So, like people know that I'm Catholic and I'm not afraid to talk about being Catholic. Wearing my crucifix all the time, like I'm out there and I'm doing it. Where I find myself maybe not experiencing as much courage or as much fortitude is when I'm in a one-on-one conversation. For some reason, that pivots my positioning where I feel very aware of the fact that however I go through that conversation, I could be like representing Christianity or representing Christ. And I just feel myself shrink when it comes to defending the faith or explaining the faith to someone who's not of the faith in a one-on-one conversation. You could give me a microphone and I can go in front of a thousand people and I would actually be excited to talk about the goodness of God and the goodness of the Catholic Church and all of the things that give me so much inspiration in my life. But for some reason, when it's a one-on-one conversation, I don't want to appear conceited. I don't want to appear like I'm not accepting or that I'm not understanding. Like I want to be able to approach the person across the table from me the way Christ would. And that always just comes out as like a jumbled mess of insecurity whenever I'm in a one-on-one conversation. And I don't know how to like work through that because it just kind of happens and I catch myself while it's happening that I'm not being bold or I'm not telling the whole truth and I'll like soften my language. So I don't know. It's a grind, it's something that I'm working through.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

What you got for me, Raleigh? I can definitely relate to that. I think, I mean, I even when I was a teacher and like I taught biblical theology in high school for almost a decade. And even when speaking to my students, it was, you know, easy to kind of direct them to more Christ-centered conversations. But even like talking with like faculty members, like it was hard to always keep my cool, obviously, because you know, any kind of work environment's hard to always be patient, always be kind, always be understanding. But like you're going out into specific conversations with people, whether it be at the grocery store or at a family gathering or even like commenting online, and you kind of feel like the odd man out if you bring morality and Christ into conversations. And I totally agree with you. I can stand on a stage and use a microphone and talk about the love of God like nobody's business. And I can like zero in on certain things that I think people could relate to. But if I had to sit down at a table with people, it's kind of hard. I don't know why. I love large groups, I love large group settings, but like small tables, small groups, one-on-one conversations, that is something that I'd struggle with too. And there's some people in our lives that you and I know that just flourish in those settings. And like those people I try to surround myself with because I just like love to watch them just zero in on things and like direct conversations, and they just have such good apologetics. But I think that what calls what I'm called to is the commissioning of Christ, right? He tells his apostles, like you go out two by two and you're on a mission from me, like you have a job to do, so go do your job. But then when they're done their job, they're still have that commissioning, right? Like Christ still commissions us as apostles to go out and spread the gospel, and we're not gonna like go to the grocery store and start reading off the book of John. But if someone's only exposure to the gospels is our lives and us, then how is that being mirrored? I think it comes down for me, it comes down to pride. Like, I don't want someone to think less of God or think less of God's message or not want to engage in a relationship with Christ because of something that I've done or the way that I've presented it to them. I think that I get a little anxious about screwing it up in a sense that oh, they're gonna hate Jesus because they hate me.

SPEAKER_00 12:16

And maybe it's a little bit of like I can sense that they're not open to start with. So then I'm kind of like, this is gonna hurt. You know, like I'm gonna say something that you're not gonna receive well and it's gonna hurt. And then yeah, so it's like protecting.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

Yeah. And I think also it's I'm protecting my own self. I'm trying to protect, you know, Christ, but like he's a big boy. And I'm trying to protect my ego. Yeah. But like we think about, you know, like whenever I get on myself about like, oh, if they hate me, they're gonna hate Jesus. And I can just hear the whispers of something a friend told me a long time ago when I was in college, like going through like discernment. He told me, you can't screw it up. You're not that important. And he meant that in the most loving way. Like, I knew what he meant. Like, you are one person, the God of the universe is not going to completely disappear from someone's mind or their longing for him because you are not his best apostle. Like, you're not that important, which was very good for me to hear, which was very humbling for me to hear because it gave me a little it emboldened me a little bit more to speak.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

But I think that we get so prideful, and I say we because it's me too. We get so prideful with the gifts that God has given us that we forget that he gave us these gifts in order to use them, right? It's it's like you've got such a great way of directing someone's anxieties or someone's, you know, problems that they bring to you into a place of reflection and understanding and seeking Christ in them without even speaking the name of Christ. Like I think that's very that's that's this very, very rare gift with people. Like I remember coming to you many times as like the teacher and you or the vice principal coming to you about like, oh man, this just like this was terrible. I hated this, I don't want to do this again. You've been able to kind of talk me off the wall, which is great. But if we view uh anyone that we come into contact with as how you would talk to, you know, your closest friend, that can be kind of scary because you don't want to be super vulnerable with them and you don't want to scare them off. But also if it doesn't hit at that moment, that doesn't mean it's not gonna hit next week or next month or next year. Like the words that we can say may have roots in that moment, but they may not flourish until years to come.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

Yeah, I think that's a good word, Raleigh. Thank you for sharing that with me. I feel like I also will be more willing if I do it in baby steps, you know, just kind of like, hey, you're not gonna be perfect at this tomorrow and kind of give myself some grace as I'm trying to get better at it. Just like in the next conversation where you feel yourself getting small, Carly, just like just try to say like one more thing where you feel like that was something you felt nervous to say, or you didn't know if you were gonna say it right, or like you didn't know if you're gonna be judged for saying it, like whatever. And you can say at the end, I don't know everything, like we do anyway. I don't know everything. This is what I think. And it it's like it's it's gotten me this far. So that's something. But yeah, I think that's a lot of good advice, and I do think of that the pride point is a good point. So that's definitely something I'll bring to prayer.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

Yeah, and it says in John's gospel, like he must we must decrease, so he mu will increase. I'm paraphrasing that obviously, but the smaller we can get. John the Baptist He did, John the B. That's my favorite nickname for him. But the more the you know, like when you feel small, like recognize that as God's invitation for him to grow larger. Like, yeah, less of you, more of me. Less of your mind, less of your, you know, the things that you see as impossible or difficult, know that I have a way.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Yeah, so maybe I need to pray the litany of humility today.

SPEAKER_01 15:52

Good luck.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

I know. I do I do I do it at least once a month, and I haven't done it yet this month. Oh scary. All right. Well, thank you so much, Raleigh. You're such a good friend. I'm excited to see what happens now that I'm actively working through one of my grinds. So can we talk about your grind now?

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Yeah, and I think it's so good to just like say it out loud because once you recognize it, it kind of loses its power over you.

SPEAKER_00 16:17

And my share it with a friend, you kind of feel like, okay, I'm actively working towards it so you feel less powerless. You're like, okay, I've I I've I've stated my problem and someone has given me advice, and I know I have a I have a footing now to move forward. So it's good. All right, your turn. My turn.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

My my my turn. My grind is something that I think a lot of, I don't want to say a lot of parents, but I think parents of the parents that I talk to is how do I teach my kids or how do I even model for my kids how to navigate a world that I don't really even understand? You know, like problems that my kids are going through or will go through within the next decade are things that I didn't struggle with as a kid their age because I lived in a completely different world. So it's just how do I teach them or help them navigate to a world and a culture that sometimes I struggle to navigate? I I struggle to understand.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

Yeah, I think that is something that a lot of parents struggle with. And I think it's not even strictly just like a faith-based problem. Like I think the world that we are experiencing with some of the challenges present in our world today, that's just like a everyone and all millennial parents are having a what is happening, Mobe, you know, and we're all kind of having to figure things out. So yeah, definitely a good question that even if it's not necessarily strictly a spiritual question, it's gonna have a spiritual answer because our faith is our our foundation, right? So I, in thinking about this as a fellow millennial parent, I think that the very first thing that came to mind when I was thinking about it was recognizing God's fatherhood because we know the father as our father, because we have accepted, you know, the precepts of the church, we've gone through our sacraments, like you and I, and then any other Catholic parent has gone through this experience of like, I have said that something about Catholicism is going to be the basis of my life and it's gonna be my foundation. And in that, we've accepted God as our father because we are his through baptism. So if God is my father, leaning really intentionally and prayerfully and totally into God is my father and God is my kid's father, to say, like, I am not their only parent. There is a supernatural protection over them. I had that experience really powerfully with my first with Clark whenever he was a baby. I remember just holding him and being like, you are not just mine. Like I didn't, I made you like you formed in my womb, but like I didn't make you, like I didn't design you, I didn't pick your eye color, I didn't pick your character traits, like I'm discovering you, but I did not make you. You have a creator, and like he knows way more about you than I do. So I get to discover you, and that's such a gift. But what that looks like, I think, from a parenting point of view, when you're trying to say, like, okay, this child was created by God for this time. He placed this child and this time in my family, and I get to be the one who stewards over his life, and that's such a gift to lean into that father and say, look, you know what this child is gonna face. You know what the dragons in his life is gonna be. And I don't, I can't even really like trace my dragons right now. Like, what are my grinds? What are my things that I'm working on still in my fees as a parent? I don't know what my child is gonna face, but you know. So I can just say, like, God, be their father. Give them what they need to face what they're gonna face. And if you can make the things they're gonna face smaller, that would be great. Whatever is your will, but like I can't fight their battles, but I can pray for your guidance and your providence over whatever battles they will have to face. And I hope that I'm there to do it with them. Um, and then I think in the meantime, how you do that in a tangible way to your children so that they understand what you're doing, is you do what the catechism tells us in building that domestic church. Um, it says in the catechism, um paragraph 2204 to 2206, there's all that chunk about making your home a domestic church where they know what a Christ-centered life looks like while they're in your home. They know about love, they know about service, they know about charity, they know about fortitude, they know about prudence, you know, like all those virtues and all the ways that a good family is going to model God's love for them. That way, whenever they are facing the world, they will know what is not of God because it will be what is not of your life. Like they will be able to recognize it. That's what the catechism says, that when you build your domestic church, the children of that home will be able to go into the world and immediately recognize what is not of God because it will not be what they experienced growing up. And we know, we know, we've talked about this, that not everyone has that experience in their childhood home. That's part of the things you do in Pre Cana, right? The very first thing you do in Pre Cana is talk about your family of origin and whether or not you were actually like given the face of God in your childhood. And it's a whole big conversation, you could have it for the rest of your life, you know? But to say that you are intentionally every day trying to model God's love and providence and model Christian virtue, which is prudence and fortitude and charity and all those things, then like if you do your best at doing that and like leaning on God as the Father and trying to mimic him in all the ways that you can, when they go out into the world, they will know what is not of God. And even if they end up choosing what is not of God. Like on their own journeys as they go through their own temptations and all the things, it will be the only thing you can do to have made it clear to them that God is real and what he looks like. So that they can find him again on their journey. And like to today, I'm this is the last thing I'm gonna say. Um, today, listening in Hallow, today's reflection was from a priest who tells his whole journey of how he grew up in a very Christian household, one of eight kids, and he had this whole journey in his adolescence where he went very far away from God and did all these other things. Um and now he finds himself as a friar of the renewal. He is like he had this great conversion story where he came back to God, but he's like, I couldn't have done it if I didn't know from my childhood and have relationships with religious people growing up that like when I realized that the world that I was chasing was not the world I belonged in, I had somewhere else to go because I I could witness, I had seen witness of another world. So I knew who to go to once I realized what journey I was supposed to be on. So that's all we can really do. And they're gonna face their dragons and they're gonna be, you know, big scary things that might hurt them, you know. It might be things that like it's the bully on the playground in first grade, or it's the girl that breaks their heart freshman year of high school, like whatever it is. Like there's all these terrible things, you know.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

Or you might be raising the bully on the playground, or you might be raising the girl that's gonna break someone's heart. Like I mean, it's all the reality of it.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

And like, yes, there's so much rejection and so much uncertainty and the world itself, like you said, there's so much politics and there's so much conflict and and all of that. But like if you let them know that God is real and you tell them what he looks like, then like when they need God, they will know where to go. And that's the best we can do, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

But that is something we can do. Honestly, though, like that's very freeing. And I imagine as a, you know, we have littles. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

My oldest is nine.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

And your oldest is six.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:02

As a parent of high school-aged kids, college-aged kids, or even adult kids, like I know you never stop worrying about your kids. You know, my mother-in-law and my mom tell me that all the time. Their oldest are in their 30s and 40s, but like you never stop worrying about your kids and caring about your kids. And I think that it's freeing to know that you have done all that you can do and you can continue to kind of stay on the bench as a coach and guide them, but you can't, you can't do any more formation as an ad as a mom or a dad because like they are now in their journey in the faith. Like that's really their own.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

That's what I think of when I think of that moment with Clark when I was holding him as a baby. I was just like, he's not mine. Like, I can do the best for him, and I can be for him everything that I can be, but I can't be his creator. I can't be his God. I can be his mom and the the I can try to be the best mom that I know how to be. And that means loving him like God does, so that whenever he needs God, he knows what love looks like because I tried my best to show him. And that means I shouldn't shout at him so much. It means that I shouldn't, you know, patient with him and all the things, but like that's my journey, you know. And hopefully he'll forgive me for all the times that I fell short.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

And all of them will, because it's not just Clark. Let me tell you, I called my mom the other day and I was like, Mom, I don't like I had a really bad day. My husband was out of town for work. It was just me and the kids, and we had a rough day. I was yelling, like I had like the scolding yell. Yep. And I I finally put him to bed. I felt so defeated. I called my mom and I'm like, are they gonna remember this? Like, are they gonna remember these days when I am just like at my absolute worst, and they're gonna remember mommy didn't love me, she yelled at me, and blah, blah, blah, blah. And mom was like, Well, do you remember those days? I'm like, No, I don't remember any of those. You were like, you never she's like, Well, I all I did was that. That was your whole childhood. I mean, not the whole childhood, obviously, but I'm like, no, I don't remember those. I just remember, you know, I remember all the good times. Because I think sometimes, you know, God bless, hopefully we romanticize our childhood. Yeah, but it's it's not, we can't base our parenthood on our worst days, and we can't base it on our our best days either. Right. But even if right.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

And and like just to go back to your grind, like, even if you were perfect, Raleigh, the world would still be fallen. And even if you, as a mother or a father, were perfect, the world would still be fallen, they would still have things that they had to contend with, you know. So, like, that's why I shouldn't make their jobs harder, I shouldn't make their lives worse by being a selfish or impatient parent. But even if I'm perfect, they're gonna have battles that they're gonna have to fight and they're gonna have temptations and they're gonna sin and they're gonna have to reconcile that and like all of it. So, like, I also feel often worried about like what type of world are my kids gonna inherit. But then I also feel like I'm doing everything I know how to do, and I have to give myself the grace along the way. And remember, like, I'm not the creator of the universe. I can just do it.

SPEAKER_01 27:09

Switch my mindset. I'm not worried about the world my kids are gonna inherit. I am worried about the I am worried about the world because they're gonna inherit my kids. And y'all better strap in because these kids are gonna change the freaking world.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Raleigh's kids are gonna change the world. Y'all, I spent a lot of time with those babies and they are good, and they are so they are powerful. They are powerful, they are gonna do stuff. So, Raleigh, how are you feeling about season one?

SPEAKER_01 27:37

I'm so excited. I'm excited because I think in season two, I think we finally found our stride. We finally found, you know, you go through all of the hiccups of recording and learning how to do a podcast, and I think we've made all the mistakes and learned from them. So I think season two is gonna go much smoother. But I think that you and I have grown at a lot of confidence to just kind of speak the truth of the gospel and not concern ourselves with whose ears it falls on. Sure. So I'm excited for the the realness that's gonna come in season two.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

I think so too. Should we say a prayer to sort of wrap up our season here on the on the recording? I love that. Do you want to lead or do you want me to lead? You lead and I'll wrap. Okay, perfect. You ready? Let's go. Let's do it. Follow along, listeners. Let's pray in the name of the Father and Son of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Good and gracious God, we thank you so much for the gift of this time together with my friend Raleigh and all of the people who will eventually hear this. You know, this is time spent learning about how to better be your disciple and how to grow in community and friendship and hopefully friendship with one another, but friendship ultimately with you. So thank you for allowing us this time and allowing us the technology and the knowledge and all the things that have made this possible. In a much deeper way, Lord, we want to thank you for the gift of our very lives, our very selves, and the gift that is each listener, each person who will ever hear this, whether it's a lot of people or just a few, they are good and you love them and you want them. You want them to be home with you in eternity, but you want them even right now in this moment. You want their hearts to recognize that you are present and alive within them, and you want to meet them in their grinds. You want to bring them to glory. That is your desire, Lord. And you place that desire in our hearts ever more strongly whenever you ask us to evangelize and to spread the good news of the gospel of your love. And you also seek very deeply for each of us just to turn gently towards you and make space for you because you want to bring about the glory in our stories. And we know that you are good and we trust you and we thank you for all that you are to us. Please watch over us, please watch over our children, please watch over all of our listeners and their families and their loved ones. And for any heart that is hard, any heart that is turning away from you, any heart that is in need today, we lift them up to you, Lord, and we offer them up to you because you know, we know that you will receive them in your gentleness, but also in your power. And we thank you for your love. May all glory be to the Father, Father, Son, Son, and the Holy Spirit as it was in the beginning. It is now and every shall be. World without end.

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Amen. Thank you, Carly. Of course, you want to wrap it up for us? Yes. If you have grinds that you like to discuss in future episodes, please send us a DM on Instagram at theglory in the grind. Or write us an email the old way at thegloryinthrind at gmail.com. Or write us a personal letter on your favorite stationery. Yes, but we will not give you our addresses to send it to.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

You take a picture and email it. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

That's what you need to do. Send me a picture of a letter. Or a voice memo.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

You like voice memos.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

That's what we learned. That is that is true. All right, we're just gonna ramble. So we're gonna wrap this up. Thank you guys so much for sticking around. If you have stuck around, send us some messages, send us some feedback. We love to take honest criticism and honest advice from people. So help us to make season two even more accessible to people, but also help us to guide our thoughts as we ask the Holy Spirit to keep us in check.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

Amen. Amen. The glory and the grind at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you. Thank you so much. We love you and have a wonderful night. See you in season two.