S2 - E4 - Comparison

Season 2, Episode 4: Comparison

Comparison has been called the thief of joy—but what if it's also stealing our peace, our purpose, and our trust in God's goodness?

In this episode, we're diving into what Scripture says about comparison and why Jesus' words to Peter still speak directly to us today: "What concern is it of yours? You follow me." (John 21:22)

This Week's Glory & Grind

Grind: June was expensive! We share the stress of budgeting, unexpected expenses, and learning to trust God even when finances feel overwhelming.
Glory: Discovering that it's okay to ask God for whatever is on your heart. He isn't bothered by our desires—He delights in hearing from His children.

In This Episode

After Peter's beautiful moment of reconciliation with Jesus, he immediately looks at John and asks, "What about him?" Jesus responds:

"What if I want him to remain until I come? What concern is it of yours? You follow me." (John 21:22)

It's a reminder we all need: our focus belongs on following Christ—not comparing our path to someone else's.

We also discuss:

• Why comparison pulls our hearts away from Jesus.
• How comparison can cause us to question God's goodness.
• The Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard (Matthew 20:1–16).
• Why someone else's blessing is never a loss for you.
• How envy distorts our understanding of our own calling.
• Why love and envy cannot coexist (1 Corinthians 13:4).

Raleigh's Four Takeaways

1. Stop looking sideways. Your calling is yours alone.
2. God's generosity toward others is not a threat to you.
3. Greatness is found in service, not in status.
4. A heart fixed on Christ has no room for envy.

Quote of the Episode

"Be who you are and be that well."
— St. Francis de Sales

Reflection Question

Read Matthew 20:1–16, the Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard.

What is your first reaction to the owner's decision, and why? What might that reveal about your view of God's generosity?

Quick Disclaimer

As always, we encourage you to hold everything we share up against the teachings of the Church through Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. If something doesn't sit well with you, let it become an invitation to pray, study, and seek the truth. We're learning alongside you, and while we strive to be faithful, we're human too.

Coming Next

Next episode, we're talking about dating and discerning a spouse—because choosing a lifelong partner is a little more important than getting picked first on the playground.

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SPEAKER_01 0:02

Welcome to the Glory and the Grind, the podcast where we explore the beauties and the struggles of living out our Catholic faith. I'm your host, Carly Flynn.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

And I'm also here, Raleigh Poche. We're two friends finding grapes in the grind of motherhood and ministry, while also dodging nerf darts, starting and then restarting the laundry, and balancing all the things.

SPEAKER_01 0:23

Oh shoot! My clothes have been in the washer for three days.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Well, perhaps they have Christend.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Is that a heresy?

SPEAKER_00 0:32

Uh probably not. I don't know. Anyways, we take your questions from life and the grind and look for the glory woven into your story. So let's dive into some moments where holiness and hot messes meet. And we are back with another episode on comparison. Piom, peom, pew! Pew, pew, pew, pew. I truly have recognized that my children really do that, and they do that out in public, and it just makes me so proud. I'm such a proud mom. You should. And my kids are like basically 90s. You know, Wall Street Journal workers, whatever. Anyways, into the episode, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna break down a little things by comparison, but first it's is Carly's turn to share about her grind and her glory of the week. So, Carly, please share with us what's been your grind lately.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

So I don't think anybody else in the world struggles with budgeting. Anyone? Not I said the fly. So I realized coming out of the month of June that I did not budget. It's not even like I didn't stick to the budget. Like I just didn't even budget. I didn't even think what's coming up. Mm-hmm. And I should have. So I was particularly stressed over um a certain dollar amount that ended up on my credit card just because of things we planned for June without budgeting appropriately. And um I don't handle money stress very well. Like I can handle time stress, I can handle like workload stress. But when it comes to money stress, I just I get emotional and I get um, like I feel like I turned into a little kid. I'm just like, I don't know. So I know I had to get better about budgeting and have a better relationship with money. Um, but my glory related to that grind as I'm working out how we're gonna pay some of this money, pay some of these bills, is I am learning that it's okay to ask God for whatever you want, even if you feel like you got yourself in a dumb spot. And my example of that is I was praying recently and I was praying about the things I normally pray about, you know, um, I want to pray for so-and-so who's having a hard time. I want to pray for the continued health and wellness of my family. I want to pray that certain people will come back to the church, like whatever. Good normal prayers. Um, but then I was like, should I pray about my money stress? Like, should I pray about that? And then I was like, why wouldn't you pray for sure about that? Like I had a thought where I was like, is it fair for me to ask God to like either help me make more money or help me to have a better relationship with money, like whatever that is? And somewhere in my brain, I realized, like, the Lord wants me to come to him with everything, and he genuinely cares. Like, yes, maybe I spent too much money in June, and that's my own fault. And that was kind of a dumb thing that I did or that we did as a family. Yeah.

unknown 3:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

But yeah, but like just because you made a mistake doesn't mean you're disqualified from talking to God about it. Yeah. And it was just a really nice feeling in that prayer to kind of be like, oh, like he is not objectively disappointed in me the way I'm disappointed in myself. Like I can come to him and he will delight in the fact that I trust him with these things that are obviously important. And even he would delight in me bringing frivolous things to him because he'd be in a relationship with me. And that's so lovely.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

So yeah, yeah. I I I think that's great because I think sometimes we deem things as important or unimportant, significant or insignificant. And like when our kids come to us with their problems, obviously we know, like, oh, this isn't gonna be a long-term problem for me. This is gonna be a short-term problem for you. But for you, right now, this is a huge problem in your mind, and I want to help you through it, right? And I think that's how God the Father looks at everything that we bring to him. I mean, he's like, eh, you're not gonna worry about this in a week or so, but here's how I help you get through that, right? Right, right. And I think budgeting, ugh in future episodes. I think we're gonna talk about like marriage and picking a partner. That's that's probably something that needs to be a part of that because that's such a huge part that comes to any type of adulthood. Well, we knew group project adulthood.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

Yeah, group project adulthood. We knew we were getting married um when we did our little focus test. Um, that like neither one of us really had a even though Ryan has a business degree, like, neither one of us really think about money um in like a succinct, cohesive way. So it's just something we're always working on, trying to get back.

SPEAKER_00 5:16

I get it. I'm that's me. I'm with you guys. My husband like has spreadsheets and budgets, and like he's done the Dave Ramsey thing. Yeah. And I'm like, he kept saying Dave Ramsey when we first started marrying. I thought he was buying me jewelry, like from like Ramsey Jewelry jewelers out here in New Orleans. I'm like, oh my gosh, he's gonna give me so many presents. Turns out, no, the opposite.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

He's gonna take your money away, he's gonna make sure.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

He's gonna put it in a rough IRA at some point. But God bless him. God bless him.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Uh I die. Let's hear, let's hear God's promise for today, Raleigh, because I think I think it's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

It is. Okay, so we are talking about comparison today, and I'm going to read to you from the very end of the Gospel of John, the very end of the Gospel of John, chapter 21, verse 22. And Jesus said to him, If I want him to remain until I come, what concern of it is yours? You follow me. Again, Jesus said, What if I want him to remain until I come? What concern is it of yours? You follow me. And this comes at the end of John's gospel, right after he's with all of Jesus, he's with all of his apostles. He's he's resurrected, he hasn't ascended yet, and he is talking to his apostles, specifically Peter, and he's asking Peter three times, Peter, do you love me? And Peter responds, Yes, Lord, you know that I love you. And this is kind of like their reconciliation moment because Peter denied Jesus three times during his passion. Jesus is giving them this opportunity to redeem that. And Jesus is essentially telling all of the apostles along with Peter that you're going to suffer and probably die for this mission. And Peter then looks at John the Apostle, the apostle whom Jesus loves, and he says, Okay, well, what about him? And we know that John died of old age on the island of Patmos in exile. And Jesus tells him, What concern of it is yours? You follow me, essentially saying, He's not denying that John's not going to die, um, a martyr's death, but he's saying, Don't worry about what John's going to do. You follow me. You follow what it is that I call and for I what I say for your life. So I love it because Jesus doesn't answer his question, he just resurrects Peter to like, Peter, get it together, man. Get it together.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

Right. Because I think I I would imagine if I was one of the 12 apostles, and we see this throughout the gospels that they do this, and in Acts, they compare. They're like, We are the chosen ones, right? We are the ones, and what are we gonna get? Because we're so special, we were chosen first. And Jesus is always like, How about what are you gonna give? How about how well are you gonna listen? You know, these are the things I need you to be thinking about.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

Yeah. History will not remember that well, guys. Yeah. Uh, to follow that, let's dig into today's main question. What advice do you have for those struggling with comparison?

SPEAKER_01 8:32

And as always, quick disclaimer: we encourage you to take our words and hold them up to the church's teachings on sacred tradition and sacred scripture, especially if something doesn't sit well with you. It could be that the Holy Spirit is prompting you to go deeper or that a certain topic might be our own human error as we discuss. So um, now that we've got that legal stuff out of the way, Raleigh, I would love to hear your response to how do we move forward if we're struggling with comparison?

SPEAKER_00 9:01

So when I originally thought about this topic, I kind of took it in the a different direction where I was thinking of comparing yourself to others and putting yourself on a higher pedestal. But I think that the way that this was asked was thinking and comparing yourself to others and seeing the wellness in others and seeing the faults in ourselves. And I'm drawn to a quote from Saint Francis de Sales in the Introduction to the Devout Life, where he says, be who you are and be that well. Uh, whether you're a, you know, teacher, whether you're a lawyer, stay-at-home mom, doctor, office assistant, secretary, do whatever it is, your little V vocation, do that well and do it to the best of your abilities as it is your calling from God to do things with excellence. Um, the last part was emphasized by me, but we look at what we have and what we do, maybe like, oh, I don't have, you know, that uh clout that that person has or that recognition that that person has, or that person just seems like they have everything so together when we're not called to look at somebody else's story, right? Jesus says to us, just as he says to Peter, what concern of it is yours, what I've done in their lives, or what I'm doing in their lives, or what you don't even know that I'm doing in their lives. You follow me. Keep your eyes on me because it's it's you and I in this together. And comparison has been said to be a thief of joy and it drives a wedge between us and Jesus. And what I mean by that is when we are looking at others and comparing, we're slowly questioning the goodness of God. Like, why can't I have XYZ? Why hasn't God given me, you know, XYZ? Because is that what's what's good for us? Is that what's best for us? What do you think about that, Carly? You think I'm off? I'm on?

SPEAKER_01 10:59

No, I think you're I think you're completely correct because when we are looking at the world in general, I think that's kind of a daily question in our hearts if we are believers of like, how good is God? Right. Like we kind of want him to prove it. Even though he's already died for us, even though he's already, you know, given us the scriptures in his church and all these things, like we we want him to show up for us for like just us. And I think that's true of everyone. I think everyone kind of wants to know, like, okay, God is good. Is God gonna be good whenever I need to make a good grade on this exam? Is God gonna be good whenever um, you know, I wreck my car and I need to make sure I get another one, like soon? You know, like whatever my little things are that come up, or like when when my family member is sick, like, is God gonna be good then? Because we believe it and we say it, but we kind of still want him to prove it. Um, and then when we start to compare, like you said, okay, like I didn't get the grade I wanted on that exam, but my friend who studied less did. Like, what the heck? I prayed. You know? Yeah. That's just a little tiny, small example, but we see it throughout life that it's so easy to recognize somebody else's blessings and then also to think, like, well, did I not deserve it, or is God just not that good? And that kind of gets into the root of the problem of evil, which is a much bigger conversation. Um, but yeah, I think if you know that God is good and you know that he has called you to something specific, like he called Peter, then that is really all you need to know. Because otherwise you're kind of like Eve and you're reaching for the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. And like that, that's that's not for you, boo-boo.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

Right. And if your eyes are constantly on what other people have or what other people are are doing in their lives, you're blinded to the great blessings of your own life, you know? Like, if I mean, I imagine if like one of my kids brought me a picture that they painted or drew, which is a thousand a day. And if they're bringing it to me and I am just stuck looking at, you know, the dishes, or if I'm stuck looking at something else, or I'm talking about how so-and-so's painting or drawing was better, that would just crush them, right? And I know that the Lord, you know, his feelings don't get hurt by our judgment and our our sinfulness. But I just can't help but think, like, Lord, I am so grateful for the things that you have, but help me to desire to recognize that what I don't have is still a blessing, is still a grace from you, right?

SPEAKER_01 13:31

And that's true as you get older too. I imagine, you know, we can remember ourselves being like 22 and feeling like, oh my gosh, all these things are about to happen to me. And that I feel like was such a part of our lives where it's like, this person's getting this job, or this person's getting engaged, and like all these things start to happen, right? Um, but it's also as you get older, you start to realize, like, wow, I'm so glad I didn't get that thing that I wanted. Or if I would have gotten that thing that I wanted, I would not be who I am, or I would not have what I have now, and and that would have been worse. And like the Lord knew what I needed them. That doesn't mean I wasn't mad for five years. Yeah. That I didn't get whatever I thought I should have gotten. Um, so yeah, comparison definitely uh is hard when you're young, but even as you get older, like you start having your family or your career path changes, or you're buying homes, like it's so easy to compare just all the incidentals of your life.

SPEAKER_00 14:27

Yeah. And you throw kids into the mix and you're comparing your child's success to other people's success. And even though like you are genuinely excited for your friends and their kids, you're like, Well, why isn't you know this happened? It's a whole thing. So I'm going to read, oh, I'm gonna not read the whole thing, but I'm gonna give you little snippets of it because this parable has bothered me my whole life. It still kind of bothers me, but I get it now. It's a parable of the vineyard, the workers in the vineyard from Matthew's gospel. If you want to look, it's in chapter 20, it's verses one through 16. And essentially what's happening is this vineyard owner he hires in day laborers. Some come at, you know, let's say five in the morning, some come at 10 in the morning, some come at noon, some come at two, some come all the way at towards the end of the day, six o'clock. And as they're coming to receive their payments, the people who got there first received their payments first and they get a certain dollar amount. And then the second workers come in and they get the same. And then as he continues to pay people who came later throughout the day, they're still getting the same amount of money as the person who came the first in the morning. And when I heard that in church for the first time, I'm like, oh, this is a mistake. This isn't, is this the wrong translation? This isn't that's just wrong. Like, that's just not okay. That is not the American mindset. You work hard and you get rewarded, you don't work hard and you don't get rewarded, right? But that's not what the teaching was about. It wasn't a parable on work ethic. It's a parable on the grace and the mercy of God. And I think when we look through it through that lens of God as the vineyard worker and us as his workers, because some days we are that person who shows up five in the morning, and some days we are that person who shows up at the very end, but we still showed up and God still poured out his mercies abundantly upon us. Um, it leads the question of the goodness of God. And when we we struggle with this parable, and I think you need to struggle with this parable, I think you need to question it because if you just accept it on face value, then you're not really growing an understanding of it. I think you need to question it and question is God really that good that he can pour out his love on the early risers and the people who are just coming late to the party. Um, because when we measure God's generosity towards others against what he gives us, we're not just envying our neighbor, we're questioning if God's goodness itself is truly good.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

And I think it goes one step deeper than that. We're also questioning if generosity is good, right? Like you were saying, like I was, I was saying in my glory, my grind that today, it was like, do I feel like I have to earn God's love? Do I feel like I have to earn um any good thing? And in so much of the culture today, especially in the, you know, post-industrial age, everything is about earning it and being the one who earned it and being the one who worked the hard and ground grinded the most. And look, there is room in the spiritual life to try to grind and try to be the one who prays the most or be the one, like all of that. But it's not about, it's not about competing with your fellow Christians to be the most holy. It's about I can do more to love God and my fellow men better. Um, so I shouldn't be lazy about it. I should, I should rise to my ability and do the best I can not to earn God's love, not to earn God's blessings. Like it's not a prosperity gospel thing where like if I talk about God more and go to church more, then I'm gonna get more um like material or or societal value in my life. It's to say, is generosity a good thing? That like, is it good that you don't have to grind to earn grace and blessings? Is that good on its face? Because that's not the what our culture teaches us. And then is it okay if God is being generous, that he's equally generous to all of his children, even if not everybody worked at the same. And that's that's like, you know, that's like life questions. That's like stuff you have to think about. Like, how do I think about authority? How do I think about earning? You know, all of that comes up to our identities and how we think we are of worth in the world. That's a lot to think about.

SPEAKER_00 19:05

Yeah, it's a lot for a it's a lot for a Tuesday morning. But that's okay because today's Thursday. For us, yeah. For us. Yeah, I can't help but to think about um when Jesus is talking about the Pharisees and how they, you know, pray in the synagogues and they're so loud and they use their prayer voice when they're praying, but God calls us to go to our room, close the door, and pray in silence. Not that God doesn't want to see, have us be seen praying in the public squares, but my holiness, my desire for holiness is not for you. It's for me so that I can be closer to God. It's not for others to recognize holiness within me, because that's not like my how do I say this without being heretical? My quote unquote level of holiness is not decided on by anyone on this earth, right? Like I could be canonized as a saint. Yeah, yeah. Like I could be canonized a saint and like won't happen. But that is not the desire that we are working towards. It's God's vision of ourselves. And he sees us as good and he sees us as those that are desired that are worth being loved. So that's the the that's the one who I should be searching after. And that's the one I should be reaching after and seeking after. Not, hey, I really want people to see that I did XYZ or whatever. Like, even like with this podcast, like you you have people come up to you and you're like, hey, I listened to the podcast. I'm like, one of my friends said, Oh, I listened to your whole podcast on the way to on vacation. I was like, Oh, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

I was like, Oh, that's awesome. Thank you so much. I had someone come up to me in the church parking lot and tell me that they were listening. And they it was um the episode about scrupulosity and perfectionism. And I was like, girl, I just went to confession yesterday because I was being scrupulous. And I was like, I'm so glad that you listened, and I hope that it was beneficial to you. But like, obviously, I'm still at work in front. Yeah, we are. We are. Uh, but it's like I went to confession and I tried again. That's what Saint Therese says in Story of a Soul. She says, Um, I know that I'm too small to do it myself. And this, this is this was the thing that made Saint Therese like a doctor of the church. That she wasn't, it wasn't that she was, you know, having mystical visions or anything crazy. She realized I am small and I can't do it without you, God. And they have these things in the world now called elevators. So we don't really need stairs as much. I'm too small to even climb the stairs of holiness. So I need you to make me an elevator that takes me straight up to you because otherwise I'm never gonna get there. Like you have to build me the elevator. You have to show me where it is, and you have to like permit me to step onto it. And then I will let you take me wherever you're going to take me. Notice when she's having those reflections, it's not about anybody else. She's not going to do it by her own merits. And she's not going to expect anybody else to give her anything. She's just looking at God and she's just saying, you have to show me how to get to you because I can't get to you unless you come and pick me up. Yeah. That's it. So whatever is your comparison, you might think you need a, you might, you might be like me, and you might think you need a certain amount of money to do whatever is the next thing that you need to do. And like you're not worthy to talk to God about your life and your needs because obviously you're too dumb to even handle the amount of money he's already given you. But that's not, that's not what he's about. He's like, no, come to me. Show me. I will show you what you actually need. Maybe you do need money, and maybe I'm the only one who can give it to you. Maybe you don't need money. Maybe you just need to like trust yourself a little bit and practice some discipline. And I can help you with that too. Yeah. Either way, you need to come to me. And you don't need to compare yourself to other people who have more money or who have more budget expertise or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

You just need me. Yeah. Amen. Amen. I think all of this to say, like a blessing to another, it's not a knock to yourself. Right. Yeah. We don't, we don't someone's goodness doesn't lessen our own. Um and it even can help us, right? Because we are meant to to live in community with one another. So what does comparison actually do to the soul? So we're talking a lot about this being something that you do independently, right? This is your your race. Um, in envy, right? One of the seven deadly sins, envy, it typically originates when comparison replaces trust in God's provision and disorienting perceptions of personal calling and divine response. Meaning you're looking at something and you're seeing it through the eyes of comparison, envy, thinking of it as one way and looking at it through your eyes and how you see it, and not giving God any space to change your perspective, to change the vision that you are are looking through. Because envy and love, they cannot coexist in the same room. Say it again for the people in the back, Rollin. Envy cannot coexist with love in the same room. I I didn't want to I didn't want to yell at it because I feel like that'd be mean to people's ears. But the person who loves their neighbor genuinely rejoices in their blessings. Um, that's from, not directly from, but comparative to what it says in first letter of Corinthians chapter 13, verse 4, is that it genuinely rejoices in others' good, right? It's not, oh, I'm so happy for you. Like I remember like in Homecoming Court when the queen is announced and everybody's like, oh yay, oh, for you. And like you, you're excited, like you can see who's like genuinely pumped for their friend, and people are like, oh, yay. But like I get it. Like I get it. It's hard. It's hard. Envy is is comparison, it is hard. But when you can truly be like a girl's girl, and you can truly be a guy's guy, and you can be excited for your friends in a genuine place, that is such a good feeling, and it's such a cross to bear to get there. But it is how God calls his apostles to be. That's how he wanted them to be in God's promise today.

SPEAKER_01 25:45

And I think just to wrap up that point, a good mindset might be when someone else gets something that maybe you would have liked to have, God's got something else for me. Because God doesn't withhold. Like he's not like, oh, only some people are gonna get my blessings and my grace. You know, okay, so I'm not the homecoming queen. I'm gonna be something else that's important to God. And that's fantastic. Um, and maybe like maybe that thing is something you can't even conceive of. And I love to think about that. I love to think about God's got such a bigger imagination than I can even imagine. So he probably has something in mind for me that I haven't even thought of yet. So, no, I didn't get this one thing that I would have liked to have. And maybe I didn't get a few things I didn't want to have, but he's got something that's just for me. And I just need to like wait for that thing because he's gonna give it to me. He's gonna, yeah, because he wants to and he's gonna make a way.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

Yeah. Amen. And there's some things that we're not gonna receive this side of heaven. There's some things that are waiting for us on the other side of heaven, heaven. Um, amen. And I think that's that's just something so beautiful about the promise of God's salvation. So a lot of good things, a lot of good things, and I want to just condense it all into four points. I love me a bullet point system, I love me some four two to four things. So here, I'm gonna give you right now my four-point summary. Number one, stop looking sideways. Your calling is yours alone. Stop looking sideways, your calling is yours alone. Meaning, if God has called you to something, it's for you to look at. Don't look at what everyone else is doing. Don't try to copy someone else's paper. God is giving you your assignment. And what's on someone else's desk might not even be yours. Number two, God's generosity towards others is not a threat to you. When you see, like the vineyard workers, when God is giving out different um people the same amount, what he has given to someone doesn't lessen the amount of what he's given you. If he's given you $100 and them $100, your $100 doesn't automatically lose its value. Yes, I know in American currency, it probably seems that way with inflation, but that's not the code for God's mercy. It does not lose its value because of how much there is of it in the world. Number three, greatness is found in service, not in standing. Greatness and what the saints have proven, those canonized saints and those people that we see in our lives as holy, it's not because they have these huge awards in life. Like, yes, Mother Teresa did get a Nobel Prize. Can I tell you where that Nobel Prize is? I think it's like in a desk in her old office. Like her greatness came from her service. It came from what she put into this world, not what she got, right? Like the apostles asked, what are we getting? It's what are you giving? And that's what we're called to great service to the world. And number four, heart fixed on Christ has no room for envy. Like I said, love and envy, they don't coexist in the same room. And a heart that is fixed on Christ, a heart that is desiring to have Christ walk with them, doesn't leave any room for envy, doesn't leave any room for the devil.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Amen. I love those four things. I think that's going to be helpful to me too. So thank you for putting those together.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

Stitch it on a pillow.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

All right. So our reflection question for today is what is your reaction to the parable of the workers in the vineyard? What are what are your gut reactions to the idea that someone could come along later than you and get the same thing as you? Or that you could come along later and get the same thing as someone else. Um, that how does that sit with you? How are you feeling about that? Um, and maybe go spend some time praying with that particular scripture passage if comparison is something that you struggle with. Um, and just open your mind to whatever the Holy Spirit might want to share with you in that time.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

Yes, enjoy your reflections. We hope that you guys enjoyed today's episode and that the spirit guided your reflection. Our next episode, we're going to be talking about picking a partner, not like on the playground, but in life. That's right, people. We are talking about dating.

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