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Life Out Loud with Gina and Heather
The Hills We’re Dying on (but it’s not THAT deep)
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Everyone has a hill they're willing to die on, and in this episode we're sharing ours. From lighthearted hot takes and pop culture opinions to a few surprisingly serious convictions, we're debating the beliefs we stand by no matter what. Some will make you laugh, some might make you think, and a few may have you yelling at your speakers—but it's all in good fun. Where do you stand?
Hi Heather.
SPEAKER_00Hi Dina.
SPEAKER_01How are you?
SPEAKER_00I'm good. How are you?
SPEAKER_01I'm good.
SPEAKER_00Good. Roland with the homies. Rollin' with the homies. What is that from?
SPEAKER_01Clueless. Rolling with the homies.
SPEAKER_00For a minute I thought it was from Can't Hardly Wait. Do you remember that movie too?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. No. Okay. I probably watched Clueless like 35 times.
SPEAKER_00I'm trying to think what age I feel like my kids could probably watch. Mm-hmm. We just showed her Legally Blonde. I'm like one of those parents who's like, not too much garbage. But like I forgot. I hate it. I know who showed that to Ava. Right?
SPEAKER_01I should show, but she hates movies.
SPEAKER_00I mean, good luck with all that.
SPEAKER_01But I gotta show her Clueless.
SPEAKER_00They did like Legally Blonde. It's just super cute.
SPEAKER_01I own Clueless.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, it's just like a fun. Yeah. Coming of not coming of age, but I feel like it's like a it's a rite of passage.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Okay. Good.
SPEAKER_00I mean, try to show her and then report back.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna try.
SPEAKER_00Show the on her phone the whole time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Just brace yourself.
SPEAKER_01That's saying how cringy everything is.
SPEAKER_00Why is she wearing that plaid outfit?
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00Um I think we've already talked off camera and at length about what Michigan looks like right now. But like we're in the middle of smoky wildfires. We are not, thankfully not in our area, and extreme heat and rocket diarrhea, Salon. It's super fun time. It's a good time to be in the mitten. And you don't know how amazing it is that we pushed ourselves to record this today. Right. We're fighting all kinds of battles.
SPEAKER_01Welcome.
SPEAKER_00It just shows what what troopers we are. You're welcome. That we're outside of our homes fighting through the environments trying to kill us, the salads trying to kill us, everything.
SPEAKER_01So we're gonna keep it all the opposition. We're gonna keep it funny today. Light and light. These are harmless, harmless hills we will die on.
SPEAKER_00I mine are harmless.
SPEAKER_01Some of mine are not harmless.
SPEAKER_00Really low-stakes declarations. But I was gonna say, if I had to guess, some of yours might get controversial.
SPEAKER_01Some of mine probably.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I feel like episode two of this thing, you told everybody that oregano doesn't belong in so much.
SPEAKER_01I almost put that on again.
SPEAKER_00We're like afraid to even put the episode live because we thought we were offending so many people off. Yes. Which truly we might have.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00You might have.
SPEAKER_01I might have. But listen, that's to say, we, I will preface by saying, you and I, I can comfortably say, have a lot of strong opinions. Sure. About a lot of things. About most everything.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, to share them.
SPEAKER_01However, opinions are like, you know, other things on your body that we all have.
SPEAKER_00Everybody's got one.
SPEAKER_01Everybody's got one. And they don't always need to be shown or heard. Um, so yeah, we're keeping it light today. So don't think that these are the only opinions that we have.
SPEAKER_00This is definitely not. We have so many opinions. Definitely not anything I don't think that's gonna cause any great debate. This is just like what silly. Right?
SPEAKER_01But things we are passionate about and we will die on these hills.
SPEAKER_00I will die on this hill. Yes. Ready? I'm gonna start you off strong. You're not even gonna like this one. Pineapple does belong on pizza. It's amazing on there. It's the ultimate sweet, savory combination. I know. I know you're gonna immediately have an issue with it.
SPEAKER_01Wow, I can't even wow. It belongs. So disagree.
SPEAKER_00When you texted that salty. When you texted that to me, because we were talking about something I was like giving you an example of some how low stakes.
SPEAKER_01I thought it was a typo.
SPEAKER_00No, what did you think I was trying to say? Kind of apple.
SPEAKER_01Do not.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, taking the opposite stance here.
SPEAKER_01Alright.
SPEAKER_00It's amazing. I love it.
SPEAKER_01I won't yuck someone's yum. Yeah, don't yuck somebody's yums, but do not think it belongs, but I won't yuck your yum.
SPEAKER_00I understand. But also, did you do not think it belongs because of some kind of like cultural standpoint or like the purity of pizza in its most natural form? Because I feel like, yeah, nobody cares about that anymore. We're putting barbecue chicken on pizza.
SPEAKER_01No, no, because I love barbecue chicken on pizza and barbecue sauce.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I it's not So what is it? What is the pineapple on it?
SPEAKER_01I just think it's gross.
SPEAKER_00Okay, that's fair.
SPEAKER_01I wasn't taking any harsh stance.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna say, in defense of pineapple on pizza, one of my favorite sushi rolls from one of our favorite local sushi. Sushi has pizza. Has a little piece of kiwi in it. And it is amazing. I agree. In a million years, if you told me what doesn't belong in sushi, I would be like fruit. Kiwi sounds gross. Like a banana sounds worse. But I'm saying there's just something about it.
SPEAKER_01Bananas and ranch taste really good.
SPEAKER_00Oh, gross. Try it right.
SPEAKER_01Try it. Sorry. Okay. Gross. Okay.
SPEAKER_00As if that couldn't any world be less offensive than pineapple with bacon on a pizza. Mind-blowing to me. Um, but go ahead and offend me with your next one. I'll give you that one.
SPEAKER_01Okay, this one is probably one of my ones that it is not as light, but I'd like to start off by saying this is a hill I will die on.
SPEAKER_00Alright.
SPEAKER_01If you, as a grown adult, are not able to A, scroll away when you see something that you don't like, but better yet, B prove a point without name calling, you're a coward.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01And that's a hill I will die on.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna say, anything like currently that brought that to mind?
SPEAKER_01So we had a reel that really triggered men. Yeah. And it was oddly enough, a reel about us choosing a bear over a man in the woods.
SPEAKER_00We understand it's a silly conversation, but if you watch the whole reel, we're laughing and talking about it.
SPEAKER_01We are laughing.
SPEAKER_00Talking to a bear in the woods. Like, of course, the whole thing was silliness.
SPEAKER_01Silliness. In about 56 seconds. So that was all the context that you got. Right. Um, but and we had some people that gave opinions and we were like, that's great. Thank you for this. We got it. You know, engagement. We we were called some pretty offensive names.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we just hid those comments because, like, honestly.
SPEAKER_01The people could lose their jobs over, frankly, if I wanted to make that public. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_01One of the names we were called, if we reported that.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay, okay. It's pretty politically it's just so crazy to me that you would watch anything for 45 seconds and be that fired up about it that you had to personally engage with anybody. Yeah. I don't mean I don't leave comments on anybody's anything. No. Unless I'm like, great recipe, thanks, Barb, like whatever. But uh, whew, yeah. And like, whatever. I we had the whole conversation. Like, do you hide them? Do you delete them? What's the right course? To me, I'm not gonna like drive anybody to our social media and then have them be Yeah, it was so offensive. So offensive. It was very offensive. So again, you're allowed to have strong opinions. Of course. Here we are. We're here for it. You can say them without profanity or name-calling.
SPEAKER_01Name-calling and name-calling things that are just it was we have to talk off camera. No, that the one the one name we were called wasn't even I mean, it was so derogatory that yeah, all right. So that's a hill I'll die on.
SPEAKER_00We're still here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Uh respectfully disagree, bring up points. You can even get a little aggressive. I'm alright with that personally, but name calling.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you just not cool. It's not about ideas anymore. Die on that little hill. I mean, that's not a little hill. You started, we went from like pineapple, but very top of mind. Okay, do you have any food-related ones? I do. I'm just teasing. Um, okay, this one might be offensive, but because we just talked about it. Please don't hate us. Okay. It's just my opinion. When couples share a social media account, confusing. It's I'm not even gonna say it's wrong. I just am genuinely confusing. Yeah. And I think that's partly because I don't know who I'm talking to. I don't know who I'm talking to. I don't know who's responding or liking or whatever. But also I think because me and my husband are so wildly different in the arena of social media. Like his feed is all like guys putting stuff together. I don't even know in soccer. And like the thought of me going into his like in our shared Instagram and watching his reels or something to me is wild times. We use it so differently. And then, yeah, it's just wild to me. Yeah, I feel like I got it a long time ago when everything was fresh, and you're like, oh, maybe we'll make an account, we'll just share one, whatever. But like, I'm like, now is that working? I just I feel like I need these people to call me and tell me how it works.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I want to be curious.
SPEAKER_00I'm my statement was like that. It's weird. Like, I don't want to be mean. Yeah, it's weird to me because I can't see.
SPEAKER_01Ryan would never want to share mine because I'm bananas, but hey, to each their own.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, if it works for you, cool. I need you to just tell me really quickly how it works. Let us know. Because I just think it's so wild. And I am unsure and like who's who's on it today, right? And there's been like multiple couples in my life where I'm just like, okay, cool. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Did you want me to send you that like cool bra I found? Or who am I talking to?
SPEAKER_00Maybe not. Yeah, I don't know. It's just it's wild. I'm gonna use the word wild. Wild to me.
SPEAKER_01Alright.
SPEAKER_00All right, that's pre-low stakes.
SPEAKER_01I'll go in with another, I'll go well, not another. I'll go in with a low stake one.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Chicken cutlets over protein bars.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, I love this.
SPEAKER_01Chicken cutlets over protein bars.
SPEAKER_00I love it. I feel like when you see like an influencer in their carb, which is like a hunk of chicken, yeah, and you're like, psycho, but then you're like, what are you eating when you're eating like processed protein, which I also invict it. I have those like built puff bars and in my house right now. Love those for like a sweet treat, but I'm saying, like, wow, yeah, makes so much more sense.
SPEAKER_01Protein content. I mean, a chicken cutlet, you know, you have carbs.
SPEAKER_00If you want a chicken cutlet, they're delicious. I will drive at any time with a couple of things.
SPEAKER_01I will drive around chomping on a chicken cutlet all day long.
SPEAKER_00They can be like lukewarm, medium, room sensor. Cold, I don't know, it's still good.
SPEAKER_01Straight out of the fridge.
SPEAKER_00I think I've eaten a chicken cutlet driving home from your house in my car. Yeah. Because you just knew I didn't eat that day.
SPEAKER_01Chicken cutlet on the colour.
SPEAKER_00Chicken cutlet on the road. And I was like crumbling all over myself, and I was like, eh, it's fine. Uh no, I agree with that one. All right. Sure, I don't know. I'm sure somebody out there has a beef with it.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, a lot of my harmless hills are food related.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna say hard not to get just on a total food related.
SPEAKER_01Except that first one. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Um, ooh, my next one's gonna offend some people. I'm sorry, and if you're directly in my family, I'm sorry, but also I said what I said. No. Oh, okay. No, you're safe on this. Same. Let me tell you how safe you are. Mark safe. Showing up early. I don't mean like in a couple minute window. I mean like fractions of hours. Yeah, immediately you're safe. I don't even have to hear the rest of it. You can take a nap. I can talk about this one all by myself. Cool. No, I actually think you're gonna really agree with me. Yeah. I think that that can be as rude as showing up late. Agree. In this situation. I'm talking like a church meeting, show up early, God bless you. That's beautiful. Get your seat.
SPEAKER_01How do you do it?
SPEAKER_00I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about like at a party, an invitation, any kind of event where it's like in your home or you've invited people to come at a certain time because that is the time you are prepared to receive people. Agree. If you are a half an hour early before, it's like you're saying, You probably weren't ready for me. Yes. But here I am. And you're like, as a person who kind of likes to work until the last time. Half hour early, I'm still frying the cutlets.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm in my robe.
SPEAKER_00Um, yeah, I feel like people think that early is polite, late is rude. And I'm here to say being too early is probably worse.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's a thing.
SPEAKER_00For a lot of people than late.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agree with you.
SPEAKER_00I do think coming too late to something you're invited to can be rude and like a struggle. But so I have more grace for that. But early can be just as rude.
SPEAKER_01I'll jump on that hill. Okay. I'll stand with you.
SPEAKER_00I know when I'm talking about early people, that does would not directly impact you. Yeah. Because we're kind of in the same boat on that. I'll jump on that. I don't know. I just it yeah. It's me personally, too, where I'm like, what are they doing to me? Yeah. You you do you know me at all? Like, I definitely have curlers and and I'm still like half hours aggressive. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01I'll give you a five-minute graphic.
SPEAKER_00I won't give you any personal yeah. I also think like maybe people are close to you, they're thinking, like, I'll come early and you know what? That's cool. Shoot me a text or let me know that's about to happen. Yes, and I'll prepare for that too. But when we're all unprepared for the early show-up, it's a struggle.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I will agree.
SPEAKER_00Okay. I mean, just communication, maybe. Also, but if you're like a 13th cousin and you're not gonna help put the food out on the table, don't show up early. Yeah, drive around the block. I've said that to somebody. I'm like, why don't they just go get a coffee? Right when somebody was coming up too too early, I'm like, why don't they just drive around the block? I wouldn't do that.
SPEAKER_01Or don't say, like, hey, I'm super early, can I come in? Like, no, don't even ask. Just chill in your car.
SPEAKER_00Just go check out the neighborhood. Yeah, go get a coffee.
SPEAKER_01Drive around, do a lap.
SPEAKER_00I've gotten somewhere too early because I'm like a planner. Yeah, I like to like, oh, I'm going for the first time. I'm like, this is too early to show up. I'm gonna look nuts. I don't know. I'll go get myself.
SPEAKER_01I don't know anything about that.
unknownAll right.
SPEAKER_00Audience are one right now. I don't know. That's a personal thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But anyway, I'm here to tell you. You might not be as polite as you think you are.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, agree.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Next time.
SPEAKER_01I would like to throw out um pr okay, because of what we're dealing with in the Minton State.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I know that this is like a thing that we talk about all the time in the US with the FDA and yada yada yada. Uh-huh. But it is. It is a hill that I will die on. Producing food for the masses should have better criteria. The amount of recalls that we have on things, or even this, this how it's like you're spraying.
SPEAKER_00Yes, like we don't actually know what's causing it. Right.
SPEAKER_01And they're saying, well, you know, it's because like the fecal matter got into the water system and then the f the produce was irrigated with. Just all whatever it's from.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01What I I have thought of so many different businesses where I'm like, well, I could start that. I could cook for people, and then I'm like, never mind. No, I want their responsibility. So much goes into that. Like, there's so much protocol as there should be. It's like the food to the masses that is going to the grocery stores that we are buying. We we have far too many recalls and things that are like killing people and making people severely ill. Like we got we gotta get better about this.
SPEAKER_00I feel like that to me is it's a big hill because I was just reading about uh like an infant formula recall. Oh, see what I mean? And it gets, I mean, diarrhea lettuce is funny, but like it gets very, very what's the word? High stakes very quickly. Yeah. But then also the cynical trying not to be political me is like, yeah, because somebody lined somebody's pockets, and we're like, don't look, look away. And uh yeah, all right, I'm with you on that one. Also, I feel the exact same way. Like, I've had people be like, Why don't you make cookies on the side or something because I like doing decorated sugar cookies for like funsies for five people? Yeah, nope. Immediately I'm like overwhelmed. I'm like allergies and like sanitation and what if I stuck my finger in the dough and I forgot about it. Like, no, it's a lot of responsibility. I don't want that.
SPEAKER_01So, like so then if you're in the business to the masses, you know, like you're coming back out saying, Never mind, there might be m traces of metal in that. Yeah, how did you even release it then? It to it shouldn't it have gone through like three different system for that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. That's my again.
SPEAKER_00I get super cynical. I guess it's like a bigger hell, but also I feel like it varies so much place to place, too, and then you're kind of like, oh, so they're not they can't eat that on Europe, but we're allowed to decide that. So immediately it's like political for me. Okay, let's go to a lighter one. All right, all right. Uh FaceTiming without a warning is aggressive and invasive. Which I do to my sister all the time and my brother. Yeah. Oh my gosh, no.
SPEAKER_01Outside your family, right? Anybody my sister and my brother are never gonna get a face up.
SPEAKER_00Chris, my husband of 18 years FaceTime me without a warning. Like, hey, I'm gonna FaceTime you. I don't, I would 50-50 whether I would accept that or not. Because I feel like just open it up with your wall. Like, I don't think that fast. Like, I just feel like, what are you doing? How did you just come up into my personal space changing?
SPEAKER_01I'm FaceTiming you tomorrow. Oh my gosh. I mean, I'll decline.
SPEAKER_00Do it all day long. I don't know if I've ever accepted one of those without like a text back that was like, hey, are you trying to FaceTime me? Right? Because also sometimes I feel like dialing FaceTime, right? I don't want to see anything I didn't see either. Did you intend to make that call? Yeah. Oh no, I don't. Maybe because nobody does it. And if they do, I'm like, what is wrong with you? So you do. If it was a part of my daily life, maybe I would just be like, oh, they're FaceTiming me again.
SPEAKER_01What about like if Brad just shows up at your fr on your front door unannounced?
SPEAKER_00Uh I would probably be like, what's going on? Is everything okay? But I would have I would open the door. Oh, okay. Even if I had curlers in my hair, it's just brand. Um, but FaceTiming feels like, well, this is also a thing because my kids will walk around. They have like friends that they met alone in your house all over the country, and they're like, I'm gonna talk to so-and-so. And I'm like, you do not have permission to walk around our house with another person on video. It's just the same as walking them into my bedroom physically or into our laundry room. I'm like hiding dirty clothes. Please don't do that. Yeah. So if you do that to me, if I'm standing in my laundry room or anywhere, I don't want to be on FaceTime. Bathroom, I'm getting ready in the morning, curlers in my hair. I've I'm most likely gonna decline that and text you and say, like, what are you doing? Okay, you're I just feel like it's aggressive. Yeah, it's like here I am in your face right now. And you don't even have like any choices in that moment except for to get rid of you. Yeah. You do FaceTime regularly, you'll surprise FaceTime people.
SPEAKER_01I surprise FaceTime my sister andor my brother.
SPEAKER_00Like, I'll talk to her privately. Does she like it? Is she don't care? Has she ever talked to you?
SPEAKER_01I'm the oldest sister.
SPEAKER_00We'll be checking in with that sister on the bus.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she probably doesn't like it.
SPEAKER_00I show up at her door and I look in the door.
SPEAKER_01I like knocking on it.
SPEAKER_00I think preparation for everything. Yeah. I feel like I don't mind a FaceTime. FaceTime's great. Give me a heads up and I will decide if I'm ready for a FaceTime or if I need like 10 minutes or whatever. Just FaceTiming me feels invasive.
SPEAKER_01It's fair. I'm not gonna do it.
SPEAKER_00I know you won't. I mean, we don't FaceTime either.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but I feel like it's No, I meant I'm not gonna give you a heads up. If I feel like it, I'll just I won't accept your cost. I know.
SPEAKER_00I still have power. I have power. If you come to my door, that's a tough one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I've almost I've almost done that a couple times, but I refrained.
SPEAKER_00It is a cultural thing too, where like, doesn't Sebastian Manascalco have a whole thing about when somebody rang your door like 30 years ago. You were like, lovely company. Do we have anentiments to serve them or something? Now, if somebody rings your doorbell, immediately it's like hit the ground. Yeah, hit the ground. Everybody's crawling around, I still do that like as a grown adult.
SPEAKER_01True. I don't I'll like stand behind my door.
SPEAKER_00I'm giving away all my secrets. Now my neighbors are like, I just wanted to give you your mail. I like stand up against the wall and like stare out, and I'm like, who is that?
SPEAKER_01I don't the door I don't love. I mean, beyond family, I don't love that. So I'll give I'll give you that. But FaceTime, I'm just like, I don't know, you don't have to answer.
SPEAKER_00That's exactly how I feel. I don't have to answer because like what are you doing in my face all of a sudden?
SPEAKER_01Right?
SPEAKER_00And you can't, it's like, I don't know, it must be something. Ironically, I'm on a podcast right now, but I'm saying, like, if I wanted to see you, I would have I would have caught up for you. Yeah, I would have thought ahead about what I want to look like and stuff. All right, I'll give you that one. I don't know. You can't be coming to me at all different times of the day, just like I'm in your face right now. Yeah, yeah, I'm dealing with that. Jeez. No, decline every time. Decline.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Uh, I'll go in with a little this one's probably a little controversial as well. Might offend some people, but I won't yuck your yum, don't yuck mine. Yeah. Spaghetti sauce shouldn't be sweet. Oh, yeah, no, 100%. It can be, you know, there's there's levels.
SPEAKER_00Sure. I feel like tomatoes, then you get a sweet bitch.
SPEAKER_01It doesn't have to be super tart or super, you know, like you don't definitely want it to be like acidic or anything. But spaghetti sauce, um, or pasta sauce uh that is like overly sweet. Intentionally sweet. Intentionally sweet.
SPEAKER_02We're sweetening it.
SPEAKER_01Like more than like, I don't even know. Like, I don't use sugar in my sauce. I use wine, and like the you know, I don't even use that much wine. I don't know. If it's aggressively sweet, it shouldn't be. I will die on that hill.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't get that one either. I don't know. That doesn't make sense in my head. Why would you want this like tomatoy thing to be sweet? And some people like it.
SPEAKER_01That's fine. And that's alright. I won't you're yum. That's your hill. But I'm over here on this hill, and that's that's what I believe.
SPEAKER_00Also, should not have oregano in it, but that's for another day. Also, no oregano, but prefer to like podcast episode three or something.
SPEAKER_01Might have been two. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I'm so scared to put that out publicly.
SPEAKER_01Right. Well, especially because people that we like know and love actually do that. That's your hill. Oh, that's cool. Do whatever you want. I just won't eat it.
SPEAKER_00What did we just eat the other day? It is it's so subjective, especially food.
SPEAKER_01Because I don't like oregano.
SPEAKER_00Oh, we were in line, you know, Costco sample situation. I never hang out for a sample. I could not care less.
SPEAKER_01You've been at Costco forever.
SPEAKER_00First of all, if they're serving it at Costco, odds are I've had it, it's ongoing, or I'm not that intrigued by it. But they had rosemary parmesan.
SPEAKER_01I don't like rosemary.
SPEAKER_00Right?
SPEAKER_01I like the person rosemary.
SPEAKER_00It was aggressively rosemary. And Chris like waited in line to give me a piece, and I like gave it back to him because I tasted it. And he's like, Oh, that's funny because some kids were like repeating. I thought it would be really good. I'm like, it's not. It all it tasted like was rosemary, and I was it felt like I was chopping on somebody's garden.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's the oregano thing, is purely well, no, I shouldn't say that because technically. Technically, it does, it's it belongs in pizza sauce, not in pasta sauce. But I don't even want it in my pizza sauce because I don't like oregano.
SPEAKER_00It's just flavor I don't appreciate. Yes. I understand that.
SPEAKER_01But you can do whatever you want. You do it. You do whatever you want. Do whatever you want.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, how about this one? I feel like I don't know. I'm trying to gauge where you'll fall on this. If your kitchen feels clean, you can ignore what the rest of the house feels like. The kitchen has to be clean. Yeah. For everybody's mental health, the rest of the house can be like a little bit meh. You can ignore a lot of things. Agreed. But a messy kitchen cannot be tolerated.
SPEAKER_01Agreed.
SPEAKER_00It is directly linked to your wife or mother's mental health.
SPEAKER_01I agree. Okay. Or like cluttered island or countertop, dishes out, messes from cooking, all of that.
SPEAKER_00Immediately, no.
SPEAKER_01Also, don't look at my kitchen.
SPEAKER_00Counter knot, crumbly. Yeah. Like if I stick my arm and there's like crumbs. That settles me in a way that like socks on the floor do not matter. Yeah. As much. A clean kitchen. Maybe it is. It's like the harder your home, it's more important.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agree. I'll jump on that hill.
SPEAKER_00Okay. It's it's not very high stakes. Yeah. And also, if you have a dirty kitchen, I don't care about your kitchen. Yeah. I care about my kitchen. Yes. I don't walk into somebody's house and be like, their life is really falling apart right now because not even this kitchen is clean. Yeah. It's me. It's like directly, there's a directly, I don't know, there's like a link from that to my like state of mind.
SPEAKER_01I agree. Okay. I feel the same way.
SPEAKER_00And if you want to feel better about the state of your home, just start with your kitchen. And don't worry about all the rest of the stuff. And maybe if your kitchen feels clean, you just hang out in there and feel better about everything. Yeah. It works both ways.
SPEAKER_01I agree.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I I don't know how you feel about this one. This one could be controversial in the um uh spiritual sense or religious sense. Okay. I will die on this hill.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01It might surprise you. And I don't know. I I would have kind of thought where you fell, but now that you are in a different place.
SPEAKER_00Getting nervous. I actually have an anxious stomach. Okay. It's not that deep. Okay. It's not that deep, bro.
SPEAKER_01Um all dogs go to heaven. I will die on that hill.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I mean, I don't have I don't care.
SPEAKER_01All dogs are there. The movie says so. I will fight you on this.
SPEAKER_00I don't even care that much about dogs. I was gonna say, you didn't have an animal girl.
SPEAKER_01But I do think Roxy will be there when I get there. And I'm yeah, I think Roxy.
SPEAKER_00All dogs. I don't care. That's one of those things that I think is silly to talk about. Argue about. People argue about it. Sure. I don't care. We don't have a clue. I don't think we have a clue. I think we have some a little bit of like heaven is beautiful. Yes. Heaven has this. I don't know that we know all the things it doesn't have. Right. I understand all the spiritual implications of who's got a soul and who doesn't.
SPEAKER_01I know for a fact there's streets of gold. I do. But I'm saying so.
SPEAKER_00I feel like who would care to argue that? I don't care.
SPEAKER_01There are people that would. For sure. And I would like to tell you that all dogs go to heaven.
SPEAKER_00I'm not gonna king of the hill of that with you. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna fight you at the top of that one. That's fine. I I love all those memes where it's like um I send them to my sister-in-law all the time. Because I'm a doggy lover. I love my doggy, and she's an animal lover. She's had lots of pets. And it'll be like um preaching the gospel to my dog or something. So I'm gonna be in heaven with me when the dog's just like staring. Or like, this is Jesus. Right. Easier to accept it. Or like baptizing my dog or whatever. I mean, those make me chuckle.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00I'm not like that's so uh what's the word?
SPEAKER_01Or like offensive or sacrilegious. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I don't care. I don't care. Yeah, whatever it is, I just want to be there. Yes, whatever, I'll be happy. Either way, I don't need to argue with anybody on earth about it.
SPEAKER_01It's my little hill.
unknownAll right.
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh, that movie though is like triggering. I know. Have your kids watched it?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00I feel like it was one of those like kid movies that they showed us, but gosh, it's heavy. I know what do we do under these kids?
SPEAKER_01I I I struggle with movies over in the Last Bronze House house. Yeah, you guys don't.
SPEAKER_00You know, they like watch old movies. Well, I mean, we would be.
SPEAKER_01Me and Ryan and Gianni do. Ava doesn't.
SPEAKER_00It's not Gianni too. Gianni's down for a good movie. Oh yeah, always. Oh, yeah. I feel like I won't go into it, but I feel like he gets really into some, right? Yes. It'll be like a like a fun thing for a while.
SPEAKER_01He loves it.
SPEAKER_00I love that. Because I'm the same way.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, me too.
SPEAKER_00Um, okay, here's another one. Who? I don't know. I don't know. This could be a little bit controversial. You should always tell somebody, stranger or not, if they have something wrong that's like easy, easily fixable. And my ideas were like lipstick on the teeth or uh trying to think. Um your zippers down. Yes, like, well, I feel like that gets weird.
SPEAKER_01But why are you looking there?
SPEAKER_00Like depending on who it is, I don't know. No, just like something that's like common or like they have a piece of tissue stuck to their face from shaving. I'm trying to think of more like men ones, but I don't have any. Yeah. Women, I feel like, I don't know, you have something real obnoxious in your teeth. It's not just like a little. You should always tell somebody that. Because then if you don't, if they didn't ask, that's okay. If you tell them and it's like that moment's awkward, fine. If they walk around the rest of the day like that and you could have helped them out, I feel like you always go for it. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Would you? Would you not? Because I feel like sometimes I don't, and I'm like, you should have told her. Jerk.
SPEAKER_01Um most it's a stranger. Most times I would. Um, but I do think that there are people that wouldn't take kindly to that, which then it would just make me mad. So I I do try to gauge that. Like it's not that I don't always want to, but I'll kind of gauge, like, yeah, they don't look like they care what I think.
SPEAKER_00That it is hard. I feel like if it's if it's me, I'm always like, tell me 100%. If I'm walking around with like my shirt tucked in in the back and it's not supposed to be, or something wrong. I have like toilet paper trail stuck to my shoe. Like, please tell me.
SPEAKER_01Is there a part of you that's like nowadays, like who knows? Maybe somebody was like, I know that's what I wanted.
SPEAKER_00I saw, I was like, um, I saw a thing about this, like always tell whatever. And then one of them was like, Yeah, always tell like a woman if like her bra strap's showing or something.
SPEAKER_02And I was like, mmm, no.
SPEAKER_00No, no, like lipstick on your teeth was never I hesitate to always the intention. I hesitate to say with anything. Yeah. But like you were pretty confident that that was a oopsies or the transfer happened after they did it. But like, I don't know, a bra strap or something like that. I feel like you don't know, so then just let that go.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But I don't know. I'm trying to think of better examples, but like lipstick on the teeth, you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. A giant lettuce. A stain on your pants on the back of your pants that looks like it's not chocolate. Hey, uh.
SPEAKER_00Hey, yeah, I got a little something there. I'm trying to think of like non-offensive, more silly examples, but like truthfully, it is hard. Yeah. Especially if it's a stranger because you don't want to make it worse. Yeah. But best case scenario, you get to just run away from that situation. I mean, if it's somebody that you're like in a relationship with, I'm like, for me, 100% always.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I feel like a stranger is a little hard. If it's somebody that I don't know well, but I'm interacting with, yeah, that's easier. A stranger, like in Costco, I just feel like they'd be like, why are you like I'd be like, I got a little something in your nose. Why am I that close to a stranger in Costco?
SPEAKER_00I could walk around in the general public all day. Yeah. Just being like, You got you got it all something.
SPEAKER_01Well, I could too, but not in other ways.
SPEAKER_00You're walking the wrong way. They're like, oh, you see things that nobody else sees. I'm like, wrong, wrong. Right. I love you. I'm telling you I saw this. Somebody else saw it, and they were just like, ew, gross. Right. Do you know what I mean? No. It's not that I have like supervision or I do, like smelling all the things. But I'm saying, like, no, other people don't love you, so they would never mention that. I love you.
SPEAKER_01They don't care.
SPEAKER_00I would rather you pluck that weird hair or something than walk around in the general public, and people are like, just got that one hair. It's all I can think about when I talk to her. Agree. It's not my my kids don't have random hair, so you know what I mean. Trying to be careful.
SPEAKER_01But all right, uh, I got a light one, which I've talked about many times, but it's my hill and I'll die on it, so it deserves to be repeated. Okay. Coke products over Pepsi always.
SPEAKER_00I agree with you there.
SPEAKER_01You can fight me on this. I will go, I will fight about it. I've even had to, I've been forced. I will never drink a Pepsi, but I have been forced.
SPEAKER_00But you will not drink a Pepsi. This is how a strong I feel about it. I will not drink a Pepsi. I'll take a Pepsi if there's no Coke.
SPEAKER_01That's what I had to do when we were just together at our the recent thing that we went to, the event uh the week long. Okay. Um, they did not have coke. I had to drink Pepsi. It's gross. I I I taste.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so at this point you're just like at this point, I'm rather be drinking water. Yes. I'm not getting what I want. Iced tea, like it's sometimes I want like a crispy pop because I'm sick of just drinking water or whatever. And I'm like, I guess I'll take a Pepsi if I have to.
SPEAKER_01And I guess if I were to say it in a more kind way, like they don't taste in any way the same. So if you do like Pepsi, that's alright. I won't yuck your yuck.
SPEAKER_00No, it's just that you're expecting Pepsi. You like it.
SPEAKER_01Yes. And I like Coke better, in my opinion. Yeah. It is premiere, but they are different. And if you don't taste the difference.
SPEAKER_00I think this goes across the border, is it only with like the sugar free or the diet products? Or it's a bigger deal.
SPEAKER_01All of them. Okay. I think I think it's sweeter.
SPEAKER_00Uh which one? Coke or Pepsi?
SPEAKER_01Pepsi. Okay.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I don't feel I don't feel like um informed enough. Yeah. But I do feel like it's worse with like the diet or the zero products.
SPEAKER_01It's got like a I don't know. I don't like it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Like my kids, and like pop is like one of the things where it's like a treat in our home, not to be like a psycho, but if I had like Coke or Pepsi in the fridge, they could not care less. Really? To them, it's just like, ooh, pop. Yes. Yeah. But like for me, if I had Coke Zero or like Diet Pepsi in my fridge, I would probably just ignore the Diet Pepsi until it went flat, kind of thing.
SPEAKER_01And Johnny will drink Pepsi. Like, you know, so it's not even like, you know, it's not like I'm trying to like pass it down, right? I mean, I don't buy Pepsi, but every once in a while he'd be like, I mean that word does not get said. I mean it's illegal, but no, uh, he he'll drink it and he likes it. Like he's like out. Yeah, sometimes he'll tell me, like, can you buy some Pepsi?
SPEAKER_00And I'm like, So they have like different flavors and stuff. So I feel like Pepsi cherry or whatever, all the fun things, then you're like, I okay. I resent I resent it. I feel like I could I wouldn't confidently do a taste test with you. I feel like I would just get all up in my head and be like, I don't know what's what. Yeah. I don't think I I know enough to know which one's which or how offensive the other one is.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Coke is just so much better.
SPEAKER_00Okay. We should do like a fun taste test someday. I think it'd be fun. Um, like a Coke Zero, a Diet Coke, a Diet Pepsi. Does Pepsi do zero? What is that even? Do you even know the difference between the zero and the diet? Because I feel like there's a difference. I don't, but I taste better. Yeah, I think that it's the difference in the sweetener. Probably the special sweetener that they use.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean they're both probably bad. It's not like we've already I actually like Coke Zero better than Coke.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. Like you think to it?
SPEAKER_01No, I think even if I were like, I don't care about the sugar content or whatever.
SPEAKER_00You're gonna still take a Coke Zero.
SPEAKER_01I would still take a Coke Zero over taste-wise.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Interesting. Alright. Yeah. That would be a fun little experiment someday. Alright, on this food-related one, I'm gonna go with uh serving sizes that are silly, and we've talked about this before, should not be allowed. Silly, which would be i.e. half a tortilla. Oh yeah. I.e. seven chips. Yes. I an example, is that the right thing? I.e. for example, a tablespoon of like peanut butter or whatever. Like those impractical applications of that food are just ridiculous. Yeah. Just give it to us straight on the nutrition level. Like, stop playing your games. If everybody sits down and eats about 20 chips at a time, that's what this one is.
SPEAKER_01I know there's a huge range. Quarter cup of nuts. Who's eating a quarter cup of nuts?
SPEAKER_00That's what I mean. They have to do a quarter cup so you don't look at the label and freak out. But like, come on, stop playing games with us. We're not eating a quarter cup of nuts.
SPEAKER_01Nobody's eating a quarter cup.
SPEAKER_00Have you ever measured out two tablespoons of like we don't eat peanut butter in our house anymore? But like, it's so silly.
SPEAKER_01Well, I don't like peanut butter.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. I like Nutella. Oh, Nutella. Well, serving sizes.
SPEAKER_01Of Nutella?
SPEAKER_00You had to guess. What is the serving size? Or if you know, what is the amount that they're putting on the label?
SPEAKER_01Of Nutella? Yes. Is that like a tablespoon or two tables? I think it's probably a tablespoon. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Which is insane. Do you use a two? Like I'm saying. Like you might if you're eating the bottom.
SPEAKER_01Like, no one's eating a tablepoon. Right?
SPEAKER_00I just feel like stop with that. It's silly.
SPEAKER_01Agree.
SPEAKER_00We talked about a half a tortilla a couple episodes like a long time ago. But I'm saying, like, it's silly. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Stop it. Clearly, I agree. And who's eating seven chips?
SPEAKER_00I know. I mean, unless they're the size of a tortilla. I was gonna say, like I mean a normal potato chip or something. Stop it.
SPEAKER_01I concur. That's why I love goldfish.
SPEAKER_00We're on to the game.
SPEAKER_01It's like 52 goldfish for like 130 calories. I'm like, yes.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it's so funny. Thank you. That's so funny too. Because like I have like a little kitchen scale. So sometimes if I want to be like calorie conscious and like waste, I'll weigh it instead of like counting 52 goldfish. Yeah. I'm like, how many grams is that? Throw it on the scale. My kids like laugh at me. I love that though. Also, though, because we were just eating, I don't know, Swedish fish or something. I was like, you want to like laugh? Read the serving size. Like just be aware.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's like three fish.
SPEAKER_00And they were like, Mom. They were taking them to a movie or something. So we were like smuggling and yeah. I'm gonna eat the whole bat. And I give them like a little snack ziploc bag. And I'm thinking they're thinking they're gonna bust this thing at the seams, right? Yeah. But I was like, read a serving size just for funsies before you it's crazy. And it's like, you know, five fish or whatever. And they're like, Mom. So I'm like, I'm not saying you have to take a serving size. I'm saying be aware that that's like they're playing you. I agree. I mean, whatever. Whatever. Okay, that was my I have I have a couple food-related ones, but that was my serving sizes or a scam.
SPEAKER_01I will go in with um if you're walking down the sidewalk.
unknownUh-huh.
SPEAKER_01And somebody else is coming and there's two people walking, right? They're side by side. Side by side walking. Yeah, yeah. And I'm alone.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01Those two people, you have to go in single file line.
SPEAKER_00Fall in formation. You have to fall in formation. So easy.
SPEAKER_01To let me pass.
SPEAKER_00So agreeable.
SPEAKER_01You would be so surprised how many people don't. And I'm like rubbing shoulders. And I'm like, you couldn't fall in line for this one second pass by. You're preaching to the choir, you know. I will die on that hill. You gotta fall in line. I agree. You gotta fall.
SPEAKER_00In formation. This is so bad in my brain that Chris and I will be out for a walk, like in the evening in our sub, and that exact thing happens, and I'll be like immediately to him. I'll see you. The person is 200 yards away. You gotta make a plan. And I'm like, where are you going? The front in the back? Which way are you gonna go? Like, I am just talking about the plan. Yeah. Like who's in what formation before we even get close to this human being? Yeah. God forbid I should make that um human being uncomfortable in the smallest sense. Not on my watch. So I'm like, front back, what are you doing? What are you doing? With the dog, I'm like, it's a whole conversation. Yeah. Because I would never dare. I'm sorry. People do it all the time. Nobody's taught them how to be a better human being. I know. I don't know. I don't know. What it's like. Back to our petty grievances. Like, what are people doing? Right. What are we doing? I know. Telling our kids. What are we even doing?
SPEAKER_01Some of these can so easily turn into petty grievances. I just feel like there's so many of these things.
SPEAKER_00Well, because of the hill that we're on, and everybody is just on the ground. Like, what are you talking about? You're crazy. And you're like, no. No. This is worth talking about.
SPEAKER_01It's like a standard thing, right? Like you would think. There's never a situation where you shouldn't do that. There's more of you than there is. I can't go anywhere else. I've only taken up one spot. You're taking up two. Fall in line.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Just adjust yourself accordingly. Yep. Okay. This one's gonna be a little controversial. And meanwhile, I have one with me. So Stanley's not that great.
SPEAKER_01No, I don't use them. Do you like them? I don't use them anymore.
SPEAKER_00I feel like they're not really the hot thing anymore. So I can say this. Had I said this a few years ago, people would have been like, they're the best, they're amazing.
SPEAKER_01Well, they'd come for you.
SPEAKER_00They keep my stuff cold. That's fine. The cleaning of these mechanisms, and honestly, this one's in good condition. Maybe it's newer, but like we have a few that like pain is completely chipping off. Yeah. We're like hand washing them, we're not throwing them in our dishwasher.
unknownThey're not great.
SPEAKER_01No. And here's voices. Also, what I don't like about them. Yes. I now um like only use a hydro jug. I always want to say flask. The hydro jug.
SPEAKER_00The hydro flask is another thing.
SPEAKER_01Yes, but hydro jug, I believe it's called.
SPEAKER_00I have, I think, one of those now.
SPEAKER_01It's the same thing. It's 40 ounces. Uh-huh. Stainless steel on the inside. It's all the same, like, you know, mechanisms. The straw folds in. And it's non-spill. It's non-spill, but also like, and maybe this is just my like. I can't touch things. Well, and I like dabble in germophobia. Yeah. Dabble. Because like I well, I mean, I am a germophobe, but I'm not crazy.
SPEAKER_00You dabble in it.
SPEAKER_01I dabble.
SPEAKER_00We talked about how you go to a hotel. Mate is not allowed like in your room. You're cleaning your own stuff.
SPEAKER_01I double dab. I dabble. I'll let you walk in my house with your shoes on. Like, you know what I mean? Okay. All right. Not on my carpeted areas.
SPEAKER_00Not exposed.
SPEAKER_01It's not exposed. So like the element. When I was in my hot yoga class yesterday.
SPEAKER_00Ew.
SPEAKER_01We deep breathed. And when we were done, okay, it's a it's a weighted class. So you're moving, you're shaking, you're sweating. Yes. I project so much sweat. I'm not doing it on you.
SPEAKER_00No, I'm getting like grossed out.
SPEAKER_01I project so much sweat onto the mirror that I'm like, what if someone else's sweat was on my straw? It would be. And then I would be. So I need that thing.
SPEAKER_00No, I'm not 100% with you. Yeah. There's a lot of reasons why I prefer that one right now. I just got a new one because I'm like, these stupid, like, I'm sick of these stupid Stanley. Yeah. Also, my kids wanted them. Yeah. And I'm like, teacher, I could not physically send them to school with one. Because in my brain, all I heard throughout the course of the day is like 10 of these things hitting the ground and just dumping water because they don't want like the cute little collapsible strong ones. They want like the stupid 40 giant tub of water that's just gonna get knocked over on the floor. And I was like, I will not make your teacher clean up 30 spills today. Sorry. I can't do it. You can walk around the neighborhood with it if it makes you feel cool, but like I will not send that thing to school. But I just feel like why is it sometimes that a trend happens and you're all in and you're like, yeah, they're the best, and then you live with it for a little while and you're like, Oh, I got dupes, right?
SPEAKER_01Also, are we all gonna need like wrinkle care and how many years because we're just talking about that with somebody drinking out of straws?
SPEAKER_00And they make those like flute straws. Yeah, I was like, if you ever see me with one of those, it's just like punch me. Right? No offense. But I do like it. You drink out of a flute straw because you don't want lip wrinkles, but like, yeah, I get the grossed out, like germophobia. I get all that too, and like the exposed straw, like right now, mine has lipstick on it, it's gross out.
SPEAKER_01Is that the straw that comes with it?
SPEAKER_00This one I think is the clear straw that came with the clear lid with the Stanley. That's the other thing that it's a few years old.
SPEAKER_01I can't do those straws.
SPEAKER_00I taste it.
SPEAKER_01I have to get glass straws.
SPEAKER_00Oh, glass straws, they make me nervous. I'm afraid I'm gonna shit my teeth. But I get it. I'm just saying, like it's that whole like somebody will come out and say, like, this product is so great, and then you try it and you're like, okay, here's a little hill for us. Right?
SPEAKER_01You're just doing it because everything's great. Agree.
SPEAKER_00And cleaning that is a little bit of a nightmare. It it's a big when you pull all the little pieces apart, and then you're like, how do I put this back together? Ugh.
SPEAKER_01I just throw mine away.
SPEAKER_00That's where I'm kind of at. Some of our stuff is getting pitched lately. Yeah. I'm on a perch.
SPEAKER_01Um I have like an aggressive amount of other harmless hills I'd like to die on. And I'm wondering if we should do a part two.
SPEAKER_00Aggressive amount sounds fun. I do. I have like a bunch more. No, for sure. We can do a part two.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I have some more to contribute, but I can do some more thinking, stewing over the course of the week and come up with some more for sure.
SPEAKER_01I think we should keep the viewers waiting. Okay. Like keep them hungry.
unknownI know.
SPEAKER_00They're like this girl. She's got a lot of complaints.
SPEAKER_01They're like, we literally do not care what hills you're on, please stop talking.
SPEAKER_00For sure we might get that on social media. So yeah, let's um Yeah, we'll come back for a part two. Come back for a part two. Harmless hills. Yes. That we will die on.
SPEAKER_01Hopefully you're not offended. These again are harmless. Mole mole. Molehills.
SPEAKER_00Can I tell the listener? Sure. I was like, mo like a small hill. You know, like a like a harmless hill, like a mohill.
SPEAKER_01It's like a mohill, if you will. I was like, molehill? I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Mohill.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I love that.
SPEAKER_00Because I think like little piles of grass from mowing. It's like a little mohill. I love that. We used to do a whole episode of things that you either misheard as a kid or things you say wrong or things that your spouse says wrong to this day. Right. Like that. I love those. Also, they trigger me. And I'm not sure butter. You're a grown-up now. You can't walk around saying mohill.
SPEAKER_01What is the word like not air, like some of them are like specific to your area. Like I didn't realize you probably don't, because I know that you are more aware of these things. But like we'll say, like, well, I'm gonna go to Meyers.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, oh the apostrophe, yeah. But it's Meyer. I'm gonna go to Kroger. It's Kroger. It's Meyer. Uh, we tease my mom about that because we're like Nordstroms like their house, you go in there because you know them. Yeah, it's like it's Meyers. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no. Why do we do that? I don't know. A lot of us do. I have so many of those. Or I love hearing people's like misheard lyrics because like you do it too, and then you're like, oh, I would never repeat that. That's so embarrassing. I thought they were saying this, and then you're like, everybody thought they were saying this. Everybody. I love that that was definitely find some. Okay, fun for another day.
SPEAKER_01Yes. But come back to hear more of our harmless mole hills.
SPEAKER_00Little hills that we're willing to die on.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00But they deserve to be talked about. Yeah. So and if you don't subscribe to our YouTube channel, maybe you listen to the podcast like on uh Apple Podcasts, uh Apple Podcasts, or what are some of the Spotify? Cannot think of anything right now. Amazon. But you don't follow us on social media specifically. If you want to find us on YouTube, follow our channel because then you'll see when new episodes pop up, but also some of our silly little reels.
SPEAKER_01And you would have seen us getting called some names. Oh boy, you could have the defect.
SPEAKER_00You could have helped us out. Where were you guys?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, geez, thanks a lot.
SPEAKER_00No, but definitely find us there. And if you don't like and subscribe yet, do it. So helpful, helps us grow, and we appreciate that.
SPEAKER_01Yes, very much.
SPEAKER_00All right, see you next time for more mohills.
SPEAKER_01Mohills. We'll see you later.