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UK vs US: TV Shows, Casinos, and Cultural Differences


In this episode of episode of 'Atlantic Exchange', hosts Jerry and Matt engage in a lively discussion comparing UK and US TV shows, including differences in series length, content, and cultural touches. They delve into experiences with casinos in both Las Vegas and the UK, explore popular series like 'The Office', and touch upon the influences of streaming services on modern viewing habits. 

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Matt:

Hello and welcome to the next in Stillman of Atlantic Exchange. Good afternoon slash morning. Jerry,

Jerry:

Morning, Matt.

Matt:

you know what? I thought you were just gonna nod and not say anything. I thought this is an audio podcast. You can't be nodding on a podcast. Okay. We need audio input. Luckily, you did respond, but you started off with a nod and I thought,

Jerry:

Well.

Matt:

be visually noted.

Jerry:

Well, to be fair, I I, I, I figured there would be some visuals, right? Which is why I wore this Mickey hat. So for any American corporations out there, this could be you to our three, four listeners that wanna promote their brand.

Matt:

Three or four

Jerry:

This is this, this is what you would get right here.

Matt:

Yeah, let just turn my mic down a bit. I think we've got a bit audio clip in there. Yeah. Three to four. You are, you are a, uh, optimistic man. That's what I like on a Friday

Jerry:

am.

Matt:

Optimism. Um.

Jerry:

It's the American way.

Matt:

Now I would say that we haven't spoken for a week, but that wouldn't be true because I drunk called you last night, didn't I? You were my, uh,

Jerry:

You did.

Matt:

you were my, uh, like my booty call really? Weren't you?

Jerry:

That's right. That's right.

Matt:

Yeah. Which

Jerry:

You had a, a mouthful of mouthful of Burger King as I was trying to understand the word you were trying to get out.

Matt:

But no fries. No fries.'cause uh,

Jerry:

No fries. They charged you the same for, for a burger and a drink.

Matt:

the argument I had was

Jerry:

I.

Matt:

a, a meal. And, uh, he just gave me the burger and a drink, and I was like, well, where's my fries? We're at fries. I was like, well, you didn't tell me that when I ordered. And he charged me. He goes, no, no, I haven't charged you for fries. So I looked to my receipt and that the cost of a burger with a drink was about 20 p less than it was for a whole meal. I was like, well, technically you're right, but fuck you, you.

Jerry:

Yeah. What, what? What happened to the upsell, you know?

Matt:

yeah. You call yourself Burger Royalty. Well, I'm afraid you're not. See, yeah. I suppose it maybe in America there'd be upsetting some extra stuff, like onion rings. This guy was the end of his shift. He really

Jerry:

Right, right. Yeah. And he's, he's dealing with a, with a drunken Brit that's just sort of had probably eight, nine pints.

Matt:

Not even that many, but yeah. So how's your week

Jerry:

Fair. It's been good, man. Just been traveling for work. I was in the beautiful city of Las Vegas.

Matt:

Is a beautiful city.

Jerry:

Uh, it's, yes, we've been many times great time. Uh, really just focused on conferences and then visited clients in Texas.

Matt:

See, we might as well talk about Vegas for a bit'cause as you say, we've been a few

Jerry:

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt:

I think it is a beautiful city, but I'm not sure if beauty's the right word. It's, it's an expensive city. And for anyone that's

Jerry:

It is an expensive city, but I find the beauty in it, you know.

Matt:

Yeah, I mean, uh, can you move your mic a little bit away from your mouth as well, um, to get some audio

Jerry:

How about there? Yeah,

Matt:

Yeah, that's better. Yeah,

Jerry:

yeah, yeah. We can, we can edit that out.

Matt:

city. Anyone that's not been, I do recommend you go, um, at least once in your life. Um,

Jerry:

Oh, absolutely.

Matt:

every time I've been there, I think I counted, I've been there 10 times. I've always gone. This the last time I were gonna come here, but here I go. Here we.

Jerry:

What's what? What do you guys have there? Because'cause Crockfords is out right in London, that that no longer exists.

Matt:

As in what do we have that's now equivalent to Vegas?

Jerry:

Well, just any casinos at all? Was it Stratford?

Matt:

See? Yeah, so casinos are very different though in uk. So a lot of them, a majority of'em have a membership scheme. So you have to be a member. It could be free to join, but you just have to join. Um, some do allow walk-ins, but they're limited. It's'cause they just, they don't give out the casino license. That easily. So there there's

Jerry:

Right.

Matt:

and more opening up. Like I say, we've been to one in Strat with that. I had that sort of Vegas feel. There's a couple in London. but yeah, they're not, uh, there's no free drinks. Not like when you go in Vegas, you've just gotta

Jerry:

That's terrible. That's the,

Matt:

There's no free drinks. You have to pay for all

Jerry:

yeah.

Matt:

while you're gambling in the uk and that's, that's why I just stick to gambling online and scratch cards. Now it's just safer,

Jerry:

We, we have a really fun topic to discuss today that I'm, I'm very excited to get to.

Matt:

Yes, today we're gonna discuss TV programs. So obviously with the, the, I see the invention of Netflix. It wasn't the invention. Now, uh,

Jerry:

Right, right,

Matt:

the same. We'd be watching the same content, back in the day, programs would be American and programs would be English and had a very different feel. Um.

Jerry:

right.

Matt:

And I think let's, let's address the, the elephant in the room here. So it is, it's probably known that UK series lengths run times are a lot shorter than a US Series

Jerry:

Four or five episodes.

Matt:

six. The standard is six, so six episodes. The US it's like 20. Is that about

Jerry:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Matt:

I mean, and also we don't run for many series as well, so you take the, the office obviously that's a good example here,

Jerry:

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt:

UK and us. The uk I think there was three series of it and then a Christmas special, and

Jerry:

Right.

Matt:

Um,

Jerry:

The, the US version of the office is nine Seasons.

Matt:

nine seasons. I thought it was 10. Was it

Jerry:

Yeah. And now there's a spinoff

Matt:

Yes,

Jerry:

called the paper.

Matt:

that. Yes,

Jerry:

Yeah. Which was fantastic as well.

Matt:

yeah. It's, it's not the office now. happened Great. Here is the US office translated perfectly. It's, it became, its different show. I think

Jerry:

Right, right.

Matt:

I don't watch it and think, oh, I'm watching version of something.

Jerry:

Mm-hmm.

Matt:

I watched the Australian office,

Jerry:

Oh, I haven't seen that yet.

Matt:

um. That just seems like it's a copy of the US one. It it had that, like, that sort of fill

Jerry:

Right.

Matt:

the, the UK and the us they're very different shows. Um, yeah, I mean I Love US Office. Um, I, you might say it's not called the US office, but I'm gonna call it the US office so we can distinguish'em. It's definitely up there as one of my top shows and it's one of those things where there's, you know, shows become cult when you can just quote parts of a show and people

Jerry:

Oh yeah. Yeah.

Matt:

we constantly are quoting different parts from the office.

Jerry:

Yeah, likewise. It's, it's, it's my favorite show of all time. Openly. I've been to a ton of office trivia. That's, that's a question that I had for you as well. Uh, are there trivia nights centered around certain shows at like your local pub?

Matt:

Yeah, there are, there's not loads. I've been in London. I've seen a, a US office trivia night.

Jerry:

Okay.

Matt:

friend's one. Um. But yeah, not, not Lowe's, but I, I did a, a US trivia, a US office trivia on YouTube. I think it's 10 questions. I think I've got one. Right. And it's like,'cause when you've got, when you've got, I mean, I, you are looking at what, 400 episodes

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

Yeah. How are you

Jerry:

That's a new record for you, one, right?

Matt:

I'm not gonna know, I'm not gonna know everything that happened in those, those episodes. And they were some really obscure questions. So

Jerry:

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt:

a, uh, office trivia. I, I'll just be coming out with like one or two correct.

Jerry:

I, my, my main issue isn't even the length of, uh, of British series, right? If it's six episodes and maybe three seasons, that's, that's not a big deal. The issue is that a British show will go unresolved, like it just.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jerry:

It'll just, it'll just go unresolved, like nothing. Hey, life sucks. What are you gonna do? Thanks for watching. In the US it's like fat to black, inspirational music. Everyone hugs it out,

Matt:

Yeah, it every, it always closes off in the us in the uk it'd be left and they will never finish it off. Um, they a, a recent example of that was Gavin and Stacey now that ran for, again, two or three series. They had a

Jerry:

right?

Matt:

they had a cup of Christmas special I think, but they penultimate Christmas special and people thought that was the end of it. It was just left on a cliffhanger, but they.

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

was just gone. They actually made another episode they, they tied it all up. But yeah, it's very, it's, it's not unknown that the UK series, you're like, well, what happened? And that's frustrating, but

Jerry:

I hear you. So

Matt:

that,

Jerry:

now I was gonna say, sometimes U UK shows also, I feel like they pack so much content into one season because they know. That they can't really extend it.

Matt:

yeah. I mean, I find it that a lot of'em. A lot of'em just, they don't extend past three, three series. Some

Jerry:

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt:

sort of things. Some do, they go on, but it's some of the major cult, uh, series. So let's go, uh, like in betweeners in modern day,

Jerry:

Mm-hmm. Fantastic show in betweeners. Mm-hmm.

Matt:

they, they have like three series and even you think 40 towers, that's a, that's a classic. You might not have seen all episodes, but you've seen clips and you are aware of it.

Jerry:

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt:

episodes ever, but it's. It's,

Jerry:

It's super quotable though.

Matt:

yeah, exactly. But you would think that it's had loads The fact how, how worldwide known it is.

Jerry:

How do you, how do you feel about the laugh track? So super common here.

Matt:

Yeah. We don't have it so much now. So

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

they, that kind of disappeared early two thousands. So in the nineties it was very much either laugh track or you'd have a studio audience in there watching it being

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

Um. And it, if you watch'em now, it feels dated.'cause I think I've got used to going to or watching comedies without it. And I think kind of clocked onto that was that was the way,'cause like the office obviously doesn't have a laugh, tracks not filmed in front of an audience

Jerry:

Right.

Matt:

they're going that way. But yeah, if you watch a, you wouldn't, it's very rare to see a comedy in the UK now with a laugh track or an audience. I can't remember the last time I saw a new one that had that.

Jerry:

Agreed. I, I, I feel like my, my only other major observation and how can I say this politely here, everyone looks like a model, right? All the actors, everyone in a show in, in UK shows, just regular folks are on screen. Doing their thing. Like even, even the nerdiest person, right. That or the homeless person on the street is super handsome. Right. But, uh, but UK shows they, they will choose someone that properly fits that row,

Matt:

Yeah, so I think a good example of that is, is I say you wanna call'em cop shows or

Jerry:

right?

Matt:

thrillers. So in the UK they're, they're very dark centered it's just, you say it's a regular crew and they police when you watch it in the US

Jerry:

Oh dude, what was that? What was that solid ass show that you guys in the line of duty? Fantastic series. Whoa.

Matt:

See, I haven't seen. Now obviously there's some great, uh, I'm gonna call'em cop shows, just so we know the genre. There's some great

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

ones. Um, obviously the y was a popular one.

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

I'm not gonna put 24 in that bracket. That's a different sort of show. But yeah, they're very different over there. So when you watch, if I watch any US based shows like that, as you say the, there's like a, a male or a female cop, she's pretty much probably a model. Could be a model, but she's also a policeman on the side, it seems. So it's like

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

realism's not there, but it's just like in America, you have to be a model to be on tv.

Jerry:

Yeah, it's, it's odd. Also, I feel like outside of streaming, we're talking about shows that are on cable tv. Right. UK shows might have some riskier words. You might hear a curse word here and there. Cable TV in the US especially primetime. Very rare that you'll hear an F-bomb or,

Matt:

yeah, yeah. South Park bleeps. Fuck doesn't it over there on

Jerry:

yes, it does, it does. We'll bleep this for, uh, the younger audience

Matt:

this?

Jerry:

and we bleeping the fuck.

Matt:

we're definitely

Jerry:

You know, let's let them all out and then let's let the crowd guess what we're saying.

Matt:

Yeah. Yeah. This so I can figure out how to bleep, eh?

Jerry:

Exactly.

Matt:

Yeah. I think, um. Yeah, you can definitely drop an F on UK tv. That's not a problem. seems now we can drop

Jerry:

That's so wild.

Matt:

so,

Jerry:

You can drop the C. Now, you guys have graduated to the C word on tv,

Matt:

I think we're getting blurred is Netflix. So obviously on Netflix

Jerry:

right?

Matt:

you can, I've watched programs and they say it, I'm trying to think, then I've been watching American shows, so let's, let's say, but maybe they're streaming. So I was watching Peacemaker the other day, US show. I think it's HBO, but I dunno if it's on TV or it's on streaming. But they dropped a

Jerry:

Mm-hmm.

Matt:

now. But I dunno if it's actually on tv. Do they bleep that out?

Jerry:

Right, right.

Matt:

I'm not sure. So

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

you'll

Jerry:

No, I hear you.

Matt:

like another great show. Uh, obviously a great American comedy, always sunny in Philadelphia. Again, it's on like

Jerry:

Sensational.

Matt:

What you on? 17?

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

Um.

Jerry:

Yeah. I, I can't, I can't drink orange juice without calling it cocktail mix.

Matt:

Yeah, I cooked some GA the other day and I called it rum ham, but I see they, I don't, I was gonna say, they've gone down now, so the latest EP series, they're only sort of six episodes, so they've, they've jumped onto, this is how the British do it. But I think it's just'cause they're just doing other stuff and they can't be bothered anymore.

Jerry:

It. Obviously the US market has a monopoly just around Hollywood and shows in general, how much content would you say percentage wise were you watching growing up? That was UK versus us. Now we watch a lot of UK content. Again, because of streaming services, it's available.

Matt:

isn't it? Um,

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

I would say, let's go back to the nineties and it's very relatable to our young listeners. Um. I was probably 75, 80% stuff. But then there'd

Jerry:

Okay.

Matt:

stuff. So we might have South, south Park was on friends, um, but we'd get'em a lot later just'cause obviously the world was a bigger place back then. You couldn't stream it.

Jerry:

Right.

Matt:

like an episode of

Jerry:

That explains the rise in depression in the uk.

Matt:

So an episode of Friends that might be on in America, we'd have to wait sort of six months for it. So.

Jerry:

Yeah, that's right.

Matt:

dunno if someone have to put it on a tape and bring it over here. I'm not sure. But where now

Jerry:

I do.

Matt:

day.

Jerry:

Yeah, exactly. I do. Like when shows try to translate, sort of like the office or do you watch some of the newer shows, Matt? So for the audience, I, I don't want to age you may I, may I say our ages.

Matt:

Uh, you can,

Jerry:

Alright. I'm 35.

Matt:

and I'm 43.

Jerry:

Are we sure?

Matt:

I think so. I'm not sure, but I'll

Jerry:

I think so. We'll, we'll, we'll stick with it. We'll stick with it. Do you watch some of the newer shows that, that have a direct series in each country? Like Love Island or Love is Blind?

Matt:

So reality shows, um,

Jerry:

Yes.

Matt:

I don't, I don't, I have watched them. I've, I think I watched the very first series of Love Is Blind. I've seen married at First Sight.

Jerry:

Right, right.

Matt:

have things like Love Island, but they're not my go-to. I think. I think my time is limited, you know, so I, I, I tend

Jerry:

I hear that.

Matt:

yeah, they, they, I'm not sure how they translate differently. I've never watched sort of a different versions of them. You obviously do,'cause you spend all your time watching that stuff, but, uh,

Jerry:

Well, I'm, I, I'm an irresponsible individual, so I, I try to watch as much TV as possible. No, I, uh, it's just, I, the reason I mention it is reality TV in the UK is so much better here in the us. Folks are just tiptoeing around each other. That is not an option for whatever reason. In the uk, if there is an issue, if there's a concern, you're gonna hear about it.

Matt:

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. There's, there's some well-known fights on things like Big Brother

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

and uh, uh, what's the one that we had of, which is our copy of Jersey Shore, um, Judy

Jerry:

Uh, Jordy Shore.

Matt:

shore.

Jerry:

I've seen, I've seen Jordy, sho. It's not bad, but it's no Jersey Shore.

Matt:

I think the first

Jerry:

May, may, maybe it's'cause I'm from Jersey.

Matt:

yeah, that's like your home series really, isn't it? Yeah.

Jerry:

Yeah. Did you watch the Jersey Shore at all?

Matt:

I've never seen Jersey Shore. No.

Jerry:

It's wonderful.

Matt:

How far from where you are, is it based?

Jerry:

An hour, maybe less, 45 minutes.

Matt:

it's not

Jerry:

Yeah. So I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm pretty, I'm pretty centered to, yeah, no, the Atlantic City's a bit more south. Uh, but as you know, I'm, I'm sort of in the center of the beach in Manhattan.

Matt:

We covered ies, we covered thrillers. Um, yeah, I mean, here's another thing. So have you ever watched stuff from another country, another language? Do you put the subtitles on or do you change the audio?

Jerry:

Well, I feel like now I put the subtitles on, even if it's in English. I don't know. I. I don't, I, I feel like Netflix got so many people accustomed to just having the, uh, the subtitles on. But it's, to answer your question, one of my favorite movies of all time is parasite, uh, the Korean sort of drama thriller.

Matt:

Yeah, so I haven't seen it. So I watched, obviously I watched Squeak Game like everyone else.

Jerry:

Of course. Yeah. Yeah.

Matt:

it was till first couple of episodes. I didn't even realize that. The original version though. Was she speaking in Korean? I just thought they just filmed it in English though. That's how in my small centered world I am. I'm just, well they probably just filmed it in English. It's fine

Jerry:

The, uh, the third season, the third season's gonna be in America. It'll be in Los Angeles.

Matt:

Uh, yes. Yeah. So that's like a spinoff now it's squid game at LA

Jerry:

Right, right.

Matt:

Well yeah. Not getting away the ending for anyone's not watched it, but yeah, they, they've

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

game LA and

Jerry:

Well, we can give away some info.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jerry:

of them die.

Matt:

Yeah. All but one.

Jerry:

Yeah. All but one die, which is a pretty British.

Matt:

Yeah. But it wraps up. It does, it wraps up. So

Jerry:

It does wrap up. Yeah. Yeah. There, there's a, there's a proper ending.

Matt:

what is your, so at the moment, obviously Korean culture is quite big at the moment. Um, and obviously you have a, a young daughter. Are you, is your house just playing K-pop demon hunters on repeat or.

Jerry:

Now. It's actually playing a very popular, uh, British show. Nonstop.

Matt:

What's

Jerry:

Can you guess what that is? Pep Pig.

Matt:

Oh, okay. Yes. Yeah, I think, I think

Jerry:

And that that is one rude little girl.

Matt:

She's a bit entitled, isn't she?

Jerry:

A a bit is, uh, a bit is carrying a lot of weight in that sentence.

Matt:

So what you're saying is Pepper just needs a good slap. Just sort that child out.

Jerry:

Oh man. Just a solid timeout. Something, I don't know, maybe boarding school.

Matt:

Maybe, yeah, I, I, I don't think they're gonna do like a really dark

Jerry:

I.

Matt:

of Pepper Pig where she, you know, she gets beaten up or abused or anything like that. I don't think that's on the horizon.

Jerry:

I think the parents should consider adoption, like giving her up for adoption.

Matt:

Yeah. Um,

Jerry:

That's, that's, that's my solution.

Matt:

I, I, they seems very hands off parenting. I mean, the, the dad, I don't think, what have I seen him do? He's, he's either working or he's off playing football. I don't think he

Jerry:

Right, right, right.

Matt:

he's just, he's, he's zoned out at this, this point of his family life, hasn't he? He's just, uh, he's got a

Jerry:

It, I mean.

Matt:

say the word dinosaur. Mommy pig's upstairs working, but I don't see her bringing home the money. I think he's, he's doing it all. So it's just, I, I

Jerry:

Where, where would you, where, where would you align the, the, the Peppa Pig family? Do, do you think they're more sort of like south, like Londonish area or they're, they're proper geezers,

Matt:

Well, considering they're pigs that are not real, it's very hard to actually. Sort of regionalize a fictional

Jerry:

right?

Matt:

Uh, they've obviously got like, pepper Peak has very, a very posh accent. Like she, she's

Jerry:

She does, she does.

Matt:

she obviously goes to some sort of public school or something. Um. But it's a strange land as well. I mean, the whole land of pepper pig, wherever it is. I mean, they're all very, they're very lazy. No one does any work apart from, uh, Mrs. What's her name? Mrs. Rabbit. She's,

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

She's taking everyone's job. She's, she's coming over there taking everyone's job. No one else seems to be doing anything, and they seem, they seem okay with it. So I dunno how they're getting their

Jerry:

Okay. So, so essentially you're saying, uh, it's Liverpool, Manchester. Got it.

Matt:

Just watch now. Northern, Northern customers

Jerry:

Yeah,

Matt:

for tuning. Thanks for tuning.

Jerry:

exactly. Thanks for tuning in.

Matt:

Yeah,

Jerry:

Everyone in Northern England.

Matt:

It's, it's definitely a British, uh, seaside town. Um,

Jerry:

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt:

Yeah. I mean, maybe think for another episode, but, but regionally it's like, it's, think that a, a seaside town would be a nice extravagant area, but sometimes you go to'em and you think, ah, I'm gonna leave quickly. I think this isn't for me.

Jerry:

What, what's Brighton is what, like three, four blocks of like solid hotels?

Matt:

yeah, so Bri Brighton's different, there's some that obviously they're, they're too big to foul, but some of the smaller

Jerry:

Right? Right.

Matt:

tourism moved away from Britain, so these all built on tourism. just nothing there from now. Uh, it's, they're very dead, but yeah. Brighton, you've always wanted to go. Brighton. Every time you come out, you go, let's go bright and let's go bright. And I

Jerry:

Yeah,

Matt:

what you've got in your head, what you're expecting, but it's, it's nice, but it's not gonna be.

Jerry:

definitely. I wanna go for the gay bars. No, uh, I just, uh, I, I, I did hear that about Brighton. There's a ton of, ton of gay bars. Um.

Matt:

a capital of England

Jerry:

Yeah,

Matt:

Hmm.

Jerry:

that makes sense why you're there once a month. But what I would add is they also have a casino, from my understanding.

Matt:

Probably. Yeah.

Jerry:

Yeah. Yeah. And uh, it should, it has to, it's a, it's the seaside town

Matt:

It's

Jerry:

the uk.

Matt:

Yeah. I mean

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

there's, if you think of Seaside Towns, you've got Blackpool, that's another place you'd like to visit. That's, that's the

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

we're talking, we circle background now. So the Vegas of the UK is

Jerry:

Probably closer to Atlantic City. Maybe not Vegas, but, uh.

Matt:

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. As, as someone that's been to Atlantic City, I'd say Blackpool's that you've got, you've got obviously new, the Cornish town is, is very

Jerry:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Matt:

you've got Blackpool. They're the, they're the. sorry, Brighton. They're the three that you know are definitely on the map.

Jerry:

New key seems more familial.

Matt:

Yeah, yeah.

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

Bournemouth as well. And he's Bourne. There are other places, but, uh, it seems that these sort of seaside towns, that's where they're very sort of, um, staggering head popular. when a bachelor bachelorette party, they tend to go to the seaside towns like Brighton, Blackpool, new key. Something about it. Those, you know, last days before you trapped is wanna see the sea. You wanna see the sea, don't you?

Jerry:

Yeah, exactly.

Matt:

Um, yeah. So we, we stayed off topic of TV shows. It was kind of a TV

Jerry:

We, we, we did. We did. It's just whenever we get a chance to make fun of Brits, I just can't help myself. I think that's the issue.

Matt:

yeah,

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

And it's like.

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

We allow it to happen. It's like when you, a, uh, you've got a niece or something and then they're a little slow and you see if they don't mind them laughing at you, you let them have a little Jeb. fine. We allow it.

Jerry:

Oh goodness. But no, just, uh,

Matt:

the good news is we can't get canceled because we're nobody's. So who's gonna

Jerry:

that's right,

Matt:

Yeah.

Jerry:

that's right. Well, I was gonna say though, just kind of circling back to the TV shows, I find that, again, because of streaming services, I find a lot of these. Shows that are just not American being really popular with the younger generation. Right. Not just the Peppa pigs, but Australian. Right. If we look at Bluey, this house loves Bluey, and I'm pretty sure that you guys have watched Bluey as well.

Matt:

Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely, you know, it's, it is a banging theme tune. I mean, that's what I like in a, if a program's got a great theme tune that's gonna bring me in.

Jerry:

Right, right, right, right. So you, you're just, you're just jamming it in the car.

Matt:

Can never hit the timing right. But it doesn't matter.

Jerry:

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt:

Um.

Jerry:

speaking, speaking of tunes and, and I, I should have asked you in the beginning of the call, uh, did you go to your, was it fourth or fifth Oasis concert last week?

Matt:

it was third. Um, and

Jerry:

It was the third. Okay.

Matt:

uh, anyone that listening that's aware of Oasis, you understand they are probably the best band in the world. Um, so what I did

Jerry:

That's an outrageous statement.

Matt:

it's, it is a statement, but I think there's, there's gravitas

Jerry:

It's a statement.

Matt:

There's gravitas,

Jerry:

That's fair.

Matt:

Uh, so I went in hard this time. I made sure that I had a good sort of six, seven pipes before I even got to the venue. Um, then when I got there, I continued to drink because you

Jerry:

Right.

Matt:

awkward curve. And I made

Jerry:

Of course.

Matt:

around me knew I was drinking. So, you know the people to the left? Me?

Jerry:

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt:

Yeah.

Jerry:

What's, what's the point of drinking if everyone's not gonna know you're drinking? Yeah.

Matt:

got to the point when the people in front of me, they turned around and they sort of questioned, uh, had I had enough to drink and I said, no, thank you. So I carried on.

Jerry:

No thank you.

Matt:

And they regret at that because then, you know, I had a target then it was, uh, some woman, and I said, I thought she was with her husband. I went, look, I'm, I'm sure you and your husband have a lovely time. And she went, oh, he, he's, he's not my husband, it's my, my best friend's husband. And I said, I reply to that was, am I a Coldplay concert? What's

Jerry:

Exactly

Matt:

she turned around?

Jerry:

can.

Matt:

yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of spread out. It's not just Coldplay, now it's moving to Oasis.

Jerry:

That's right. Well, and just to confirm, this is your third Oasis concert. How many cover bands have you seen at various pubs?

Matt:

Oh, uh, what not Oasis, just random cover bands.

Jerry:

Yes. Oasis cover bands. Mm-hmm.

Matt:

uh, only two. I saw one just before, so before I went to the Oasis, I went see Oasis cover band just before. Um, then I saw one at a festival, but I don't think I've actually ever seen an Oasis cover band.

Jerry:

You, you also took me to one in Manchester.

Matt:

No. No. So that was an Oasis themed bar. That wasn't an Oasis

Jerry:

Ah,

Matt:

band.

Jerry:

I I thought the band was playing various Oasis songs.

Matt:

I think they might have played, I think it's kind of a given, if you're there,

Jerry:

Yes.

Matt:

one or two Oasis songs, but they, they were playing other stuff as well, so it wasn't an Oasis cover band you know, and would buy a cover band. The singer would try and look like Liam Gaa and, and et cetera. That's just, they play some oasis there, are great. It's

Jerry:

It.

Matt:

maybe Great bar in Manchester. Check it out.

Jerry:

Yeah, check it out. It's also, it's also for our, our, our gay listeners, it's a gay bar as well.'cause there were literally only men at that bar.

Matt:

Maybe they wouldn't like to sponsor us. I dunno. Either way. I think when we went in there, there wasn't a single woman in there, but it was

Jerry:

There was not a single woman in there.

Matt:

it was very much just men sing along to Oasis songs. But

Jerry:

Correct. And they were hugging.

Matt:

you have to, if you don't have your arm around someone in Oasis concert or Oasis setting, are you really there? I, I don't, I,

Jerry:

That's That's fair. That's fair.

Matt:

Yeah,

Jerry:

fair. It brings the crowd together.

Matt:

it does. So when you go to your bad bunny concerts and they're not

Jerry:

Yes. Yes.

Matt:

hugging and singing,

Jerry:

There's dancing, quite a bit of dancing. So dancing with your partner or you know, if you're by yourself or just with friends. Maybe you're a random person, right? A lot of dancing.

Matt:

at a concert? Here though, let's be honest.

Jerry:

Oh, a bad bunny concert. You'll see some solos.

Matt:

Ready?

Jerry:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Matt:

done a solo concert.

Jerry:

I

Matt:

it was, it's only recently I've done solo cinema and I dunno why it took me so long to do solo cinema, but I've never done solo concert yet.

Jerry:

What, uh, what kind of movie theater was it?

Matt:

You know the

Jerry:

And did you? And did, and did you walk in with a trench coat and nothing underneath?

Matt:

The standard cinema trench coat paid my mission. You know, uh, a lot of men there masturbating, just standard cinema.

Jerry:

Yeah. Like on a scale of one to 10, how sticky were the seats?

Matt:

Uh, yeah, I'm gonna say it, it it, I probably got banned. It was, I didn't realize I, I misread the film of Despicable Me. I thought it was a different sort of film. So I got asked to leave. Uh, they should have made it clear by what Despicable Me meant. So

Jerry:

Right, right, right.

Matt:

them. Yeah. There's a lot of kids around.

Jerry:

That, that is just, just given sort of the dark themes, not even the dark themes, but just the very pragmatic themes and sort of the guilt trips of British culture. That's a proper poor name, despicable me for a UK porn film.

Matt:

Yeah. Especially'cause it just gives it like spic me for, you're like, okay. So it's obviously a series now

Jerry:

Yeah, well, it, it'll probably end at three series, but that's it.

Matt:

Yeah. Yeah. Unlike backdoor slots nine now that's, that's just going and going, isn't it?

Jerry:

Now that, that.

Matt:

I need to know, if I haven't seen one to eight, will I understand nine?

Jerry:

Boy, I don't think so. I think you should really watch, sit down with the wife and, uh, just kind of get to know the characters.

Matt:

Or is it like, are they different trilogies, like different Star Wars? There's nine Star Wars films and that's broken down to three triages. Is it broken down? Like that one's a prequel maybe. I dunno.

Jerry:

Yeah. I don't know how much of this we're going to utilize, uh, but I feel like my so, so I'll still say it. I feel like,

Matt:

it?

Jerry:

yeah. Yeah. So I. I had the internet, uh, in my younger years readily available.

Matt:

Yeah. I didn't grow

Jerry:

So I wasn't, so, yeah, so I wasn't, you know, like just watching something like a different series on a, on A-V-H-S-I

Matt:

Not for

Jerry:

was sorted. Like were, were, were you buying magazines?

Matt:

No,

Jerry:

I'm gonna go ahead and think Yes, either way, but.

Matt:

yeah. Yeah.

Jerry:

No, no, probably, maybe,

Matt:

reader's stories. Nothing. Nothing beats it. Does

Jerry:

nah. I'm assuming it was like National Geographics or something.

Matt:

Yeah. Smash it.

Jerry:

Yeah,

Matt:

Again, I dunno if you have smashes, but that probably sounds like that sort of magazine to you, doesn't it?

Jerry:

it does. It does.

Matt:

Did you? I'll take it. They're like, pop music magazine smashes very big in the nineties. Every week you get it. And every week there'd be a a section there where it'd have some current songs and it'd have the lyrics printed out. And that was the only way you could find out the lyrics to songs back then. Now you got on the internet and you, you find out I lost the lyrics to this song, but you had to wait. Was it in smash sheets that week? Yes. Now I finally know the lyrics too. Uh, spice Girls wanna be Get in.

Jerry:

Yeah, without, again, the internet has just made everything so accessible. So backdoor sluts nine, just May. Maybe we should, maybe we should host a party where we played some O where we play some older films.

Matt:

so you might have those sort of parties where you live with, but they're not something I partake in. Maybe people come and.

Jerry:

I was, I can go to the cinema that you frequent.

Matt:

Yeah. Don't, I'm banned now I need to know, um, dear Backdoor, sluts nine. Obviously it's American'cause it's gone on to the ninth one. Did it wrap up on the last one?

Jerry:

I am not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not into sluts. It's not, it's not my thing, you know,

Matt:

It's not the anal, it's just the sluts.

Jerry:

I, I'm more of a front door kind of guy, you know, I'm, I'm a gentleman.

Matt:

Front door respectable people four.

Jerry:

Yeah.

Matt:

that sounds very

Jerry:

Man.

Matt:

it?

Jerry:

This podcast has really taken a turn.

Matt:

Yeah. Yeah. It's gone dark quickly, isn't it? Hmm.

Jerry:

I think this is what happens when we go beyond the 20 minute mark. We just start going off the rails.

Matt:

Yeah. People will see from now on episode lengths of 10 minutes, just a quick, you

Jerry:

Yeah, exactly.

Matt:

Okay. Well, I think we've hit 30 minutes and I think

Jerry:

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt:

before we get arrested or or other, we should probably this up.

Jerry:

That's right.

Matt:

see you next time. And just a

Jerry:

We shall, uh, see you soon.

Matt:

I'm gonna do some admin on the, on the call. Jerry, don't forget when I stop recording, can you not leave?'cause it will delete your

Jerry:

Oh, that's right. Yes, that would be helpful. You know what? Lemme get the fuck outta here. All right.

Matt:

alright. Catch you next time.

Jerry:

Alright. Cheers.

Matt:

Right?