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UK vs US: TV Shows, Casinos, and Cultural Differences


In this episode of episode of 'Atlantic Exchange', hosts Jerry and Matt engage in a lively discussion comparing UK and US TV shows, including differences in series length, content, and cultural touches. They delve into experiences with casinos in both Las Vegas and the UK, explore popular series like 'The Office', and touch upon the influences of streaming services on modern viewing habits. 

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Intro

Matt

Hello and welcome to the next in Stillman of Atlantic Exchange. Good afternoon slash morning. Jerry,

Jerry

Morning, Matt.

Matt

you know what? I thought you were just gonna nod and not say anything. I thought this is an audio podcast. You can't be nodding on a podcast. Okay. We need audio input. Luckily, you did respond, but you started off with a nod and I thought,

Jerry

Well.

Matt

be visually noted.

Jerry

Well, to be fair, I I, I, I figured there would be some visuals, right? Which is why I wore this Mickey hat. So for any American corporations out there, this could be you to our three, four listeners that wanna promote their brand.

Matt

Three or four

Jerry

This is this, this is what you would get right here.

Matt

Yeah, let just turn my mic down a bit. I think we've got a bit audio clip in there. Yeah. Three to four. You are, you are a, uh, optimistic man. That's what I like on a Friday

Jerry

am.

Matt

Optimism. Um.

Jerry

It's the American way.

Matt

Now I would say that we haven't spoken for a week, but that wouldn't be true because I drunk called you last night, didn't I? You were my, uh,

Jerry

You did.

Matt

you were my, uh, like my booty call really? Weren't you?

Jerry

That's right. That's right.

Matt

Yeah. Which

Jerry

You had a, a mouthful of mouthful of Burger King as I was trying to understand the word you were trying to get out.

Matt

But no fries. No fries. 'cause uh,

Jerry

No fries. They charged you the same for, for a burger and a drink.

Matt

the argument I had was

Jerry

I.

Matt

a, a meal. And, uh, he just gave me the burger and a drink, and I was like, well, where's my fries? We're at fries. I was like, well, you didn't tell me that when I ordered. And he charged me. He goes, no, no, I haven't charged you for fries. So I looked to my receipt and that the cost of a burger with a drink was about 20 p less than it was for a whole meal. I was like, well, technically you're right, but fuck you, you.

Jerry

Yeah. What, what? What happened to the upsell, you know?

Matt

yeah. You call yourself Burger Royalty. Well, I'm afraid you're not. See, yeah. I suppose it maybe in America there'd be upsetting some extra stuff, like onion rings. This guy was the end of his shift. He really

Jerry

Right, right. Yeah. And he's, he's dealing with a, with a drunken Brit that's just sort of had probably eight, nine pints.

Matt

Not even that many, but yeah. So how's your week

Jerry

Fair. It's been good, man. Just been traveling for work. I was in the beautiful city of Las Vegas.

Matt

Is a beautiful city.

Jerry

Uh, it's, yes, we've been many times great time. Uh, really just focused on conferences and then visited clients in Texas.

Matt

See, we might as well talk about Vegas for a bit 'cause as you say, we've been a few

Jerry

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt

I think it is a beautiful city, but I'm not sure if beauty's the right word. It's, it's an expensive city. And for anyone that's

Jerry

It is an expensive city, but I find the beauty in it, you know.

Matt

Yeah, I mean, uh, can you move your mic a little bit away from your mouth as well, um, to get some audio

Jerry

How about there? Yeah,

Matt

Yeah, that's better. Yeah,

Jerry

yeah, yeah. We can, we can edit that out.

Matt

city. Anyone that's not been, I do recommend you go, um, at least once in your life. Um,

Jerry

Oh, absolutely.

Matt

every time I've been there, I think I counted, I've been there 10 times. I've always gone. This the last time I were gonna come here, but here I go. Here we.

Jerry

What's what? What do you guys have there? Because 'cause Crockfords is out right in London, that that no longer exists.

Matt

As in what do we have that's now equivalent to Vegas?

Jerry

Well, just any casinos at all? Was it Stratford?

Matt

See? Yeah, so casinos are very different though in uk. So a lot of them, a majority of 'em have a membership scheme. So you have to be a member. It could be free to join, but you just have to join. Um, some do allow walk-ins, but they're limited. It's 'cause they just, they don't give out the casino license. That easily. So there there's

Jerry

Right.

Matt

and more opening up. Like I say, we've been to one in Strat with that. I had that sort of Vegas feel. There's a couple in London. but yeah, they're not, uh, there's no free drinks. Not like when you go in Vegas, you've just gotta

Jerry

That's terrible. That's the,

Matt

There's no free drinks. You have to pay for all

Jerry

yeah.

Matt

while you're gambling in the uk and that's, that's why I just stick to gambling online and scratch cards. Now it's just safer,

Jerry

We, we have a really fun topic to discuss today that I'm, I'm very excited

TV shows

Jerry

to get to.

Matt

Yes, today we're gonna discuss TV programs. So obviously with the, the, I see the invention of Netflix. It wasn't the invention. Now, uh,

Jerry

Right, right,

Matt

the same. We'd be watching the same content, back in the day, programs would be American and programs would be English and had a very different feel. Um.

Jerry

right.

Matt

And I think let's, let's address the, the elephant in the room here. So it is, it's probably known that UK series lengths run times are a lot shorter than a US Series

Jerry

Four or five episodes.

Matt

six. The standard is six, so six episodes. The US it's like 20. Is that about

Jerry

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Matt

I mean, and also we don't run for many series as well, so you take the, the office obviously that's a good example here,

Jerry

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt

UK and us. The uk I think there was three series of it and then a Christmas special, and

Jerry

Right.

Matt

Um,

Jerry

The, the US version of the office is nine Seasons.

Matt

nine seasons. I thought it was 10. Was it

Jerry

Yeah. And now there's a spinoff

Matt

Yes,

Jerry

called the paper.

Matt

that. Yes,

Jerry

Yeah. Which was fantastic as well.

Matt

yeah. It's, it's not the office now. happened Great. Here is the US office translated perfectly. It's, it became, its different show. I think

Jerry

Right, right.

Matt

I don't watch it and think, oh, I'm watching version of something.

Jerry

Mm-hmm.

Matt

I watched the Australian office,

Jerry

Oh, I haven't seen that yet.

Matt

um. That just seems like it's a copy of the US one. It it had that, like, that sort of fill

Jerry

Right.

Matt

the, the UK and the us they're very different shows. Um, yeah, I mean I Love US Office. Um, I, you might say it's not called the US office, but I'm gonna call it the US office so we can distinguish 'em. It's definitely up there as one of my top shows and it's one of those things where there's, you know, shows become cult when you can just quote parts of a show and people

Jerry

Oh yeah. Yeah.

Matt

we constantly are quoting different parts from the office.

Jerry

Yeah, likewise. It's, it's, it's my favorite show of all time. Openly. I've been to a ton of office trivia. That's, that's a question that I had for you as well. Uh, are there trivia nights centered around certain shows at like your local pub?

Matt

Yeah, there are, there's not loads. I've been in London. I've seen a, a US office trivia night.

Jerry

Okay.

Matt

friend's one. Um. But yeah, not, not Lowe's, but I, I did a, a US trivia, a US office trivia on YouTube. I think it's 10 questions. I think I've got one. Right. And it's like, 'cause when you've got, when you've got, I mean, I, you are looking at what, 400 episodes

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

Yeah. How are you

Jerry

That's a new record for you, one, right?

Matt

I'm not gonna know, I'm not gonna know everything that happened in those, those episodes. And they were some really obscure questions. So

Jerry

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt

a, uh, office trivia. I, I'll just be coming out with like one or two correct.

Jerry

I, my, my main issue isn't even the length of, uh, of British series, right? If it's six episodes and maybe three seasons, that's, that's not a big deal. The issue is that a British show will go unresolved, like it just.

Matt

Yeah.

Jerry

It'll just, it'll just go unresolved, like nothing. Hey, life sucks. What are you gonna do? Thanks for watching. In the US it's like fat to black, inspirational music. Everyone hugs it out,

Matt

Yeah, it every, it always closes off in the us in the uk it'd be left and they will never finish it off. Um, they a, a recent example of that was Gavin and Stacey now that ran for, again, two or three series. They had a

Jerry

right?

Matt

they had a cup of Christmas special I think, but they penultimate Christmas special and people thought that was the end of it. It was just left on a cliffhanger, but they.

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

was just gone. They actually made another episode they, they tied it all up. But yeah, it's very, it's, it's not unknown that the UK series, you're like, well, what happened? And that's frustrating, but

Jerry

I hear you. So

Matt

that,

Jerry

now I was gonna say, sometimes U UK shows also, I feel like they pack so much content into one season because they know. That they can't really extend it.

Matt

yeah. I mean, I find it that a lot of 'em. A lot of 'em just, they don't extend past three, three series. Some

Jerry

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt

sort of things. Some do, they go on, but it's some of the major cult, uh, series. So let's go, uh, like in betweeners in modern day,

Jerry

Mm-hmm. Fantastic show in betweeners. Mm-hmm.

Matt

they, they have like three series and even you think 40 towers, that's a, that's a classic. You might not have seen all episodes, but you've seen clips and you are aware of it.

Jerry

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt

episodes ever, but it's. It's,

Jerry

It's super quotable though.

Matt

yeah, exactly. But you would think that it's had loads The fact how, how worldwide known it is.

Jerry

How do you, how do you feel about the laugh track? So super common here.

Matt

Yeah. We don't have it so much now. So

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

they, that kind of disappeared early two thousands. So in the nineties it was very much either laugh track or you'd have a studio audience in there watching it being

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

Um. And it, if you watch 'em now, it feels dated. 'cause I think I've got used to going to or watching comedies without it. And I think kind of clocked onto that was that was the way, 'cause like the office obviously doesn't have a laugh, tracks not filmed in front of an audience

Jerry

Right.

Matt

they're going that way. But yeah, if you watch a, you wouldn't, it's very rare to see a comedy in the UK now with a laugh track or an audience. I can't remember the last time I saw a new one that had that.

Jerry

Agreed. I, I, I feel like my, my only other major observation and how can I say this politely here,

Swearing on TV

Jerry

everyone looks like a model, right? All the actors, everyone in a show in, in UK shows, just regular folks are on screen. Doing their thing. Like even, even the nerdiest person, right. That or the homeless person on the street is super handsome. Right. But, uh, but UK shows they, they will choose someone that properly fits that row,

Matt

Yeah, so I think a good example of that is, is I say you wanna call 'em cop shows or

Jerry

right?

Matt

thrillers. So in the UK they're, they're very dark centered it's just, you say it's a regular crew and they police when you watch it in the US

Jerry

Oh dude, what was that? What was that solid ass show that you guys in the line of duty? Fantastic series. Whoa.

Matt

See, I haven't seen. Now obviously there's some great, uh, I'm gonna call 'em cop shows, just so we know the genre. There's some great

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

ones. Um, obviously the y was a popular one.

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

I'm not gonna put 24 in that bracket. That's a different sort of show. But yeah, they're very different over there. So when you watch, if I watch any US based shows like that, as you say the, there's like a, a male or a female cop, she's pretty much probably a model. Could be a model, but she's also a policeman on the side, it seems. So it's like

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

realism's not there, but it's just like in America, you have to be a model to be on tv.

Jerry

Yeah, it's, it's odd. Also, I feel like outside of streaming, we're talking about shows that are on cable tv. Right. UK shows might have some riskier words. You might hear a curse word here and there. Cable TV in the US especially primetime. Very rare that you'll hear an F-bomb or,

Matt

yeah, yeah. South Park bleeps. Fuck doesn't it over there on

Jerry

yes, it does, it does. We'll bleep this for, uh, the younger audience

Matt

this?

Jerry

and we bleeping the fuck.

Matt

we're definitely

Jerry

You know, let's let them all out and then let's let the crowd guess what we're saying.

Matt

Yeah. Yeah. This so I can figure out how to bleep, eh?

Jerry

Exactly.

Matt

Yeah. I think, um. Yeah, you can definitely drop an F on UK tv. That's not a problem. seems now we can drop

Jerry

That's so wild.

Matt

so,

Jerry

You can drop the C. Now, you guys have graduated to the C word on tv,

Matt

I think we're getting blurred is Netflix. So obviously on Netflix

Jerry

right?

Matt

you can, I've watched programs and they say it, I'm trying to think, then I've been watching American shows, so let's, let's say, but maybe they're streaming. So I was watching Peacemaker the other day, US show. I think it's HBO, but I dunno if it's on TV or it's on streaming. But they dropped a

Jerry

Mm-hmm.

Matt

now. But I dunno if it's actually on tv. Do they bleep that out?

Jerry

Right, right.

Matt

I'm not sure. So

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

you'll

Jerry

No, I hear you.

Matt

like another great show. Uh, obviously a great American comedy, always sunny in Philadelphia. Again, it's on like

Jerry

Sensational.

Matt

What you on? 17?

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

Um.

Jerry

Yeah. I, I can't, I can't drink orange juice without calling it cocktail mix.

Matt

Yeah, I cooked some GA the other day and I called it rum ham, but I see they, I don't, I was gonna say, they've gone down now, so the latest EP series, they're only sort of six episodes, so they've, they've jumped onto, this is how the British do it. But I think it's just 'cause they're just doing other stuff and they can't be bothered anymore.

Jerry

It. Obviously the US market has a monopoly just around Hollywood and shows in general, how much content would you say percentage wise were you watching growing up? That was UK versus us. Now we watch a lot of UK content. Again, because of streaming services, it's available.

Matt

isn't it? Um,

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

I would say, let's go back to the nineties and it's very relatable to our young listeners. Um. I was probably 75, 80% stuff. But then there'd

Jerry

Okay.

Matt

stuff. So we might have South, south Park was on friends, um, but we'd get 'em a lot later just 'cause obviously the world was a bigger place back then. You couldn't stream it.

Jerry

Right.

Matt

like an episode of

Jerry

That explains the rise in depression in the uk.

Matt

So an episode of Friends that might be on in America, we'd have to wait sort of six months for it. So.

Jerry

Yeah, that's right.

Matt

dunno if someone have to put it on a tape and bring it over here. I'm not sure. But where now

Jerry

I do.

Matt

day.

Jerry

Yeah, exactly. I do. Like when shows try to translate, sort of like the office or do you watch some of the newer shows, Matt? So for the audience, I, I don't want to age you may I, may I say our ages.

Matt

Uh, you can,

Jerry

Alright. I'm 35.

Matt

and I'm 43.

Jerry

Are we sure?

Matt

I think so. I'm not sure, but I'll

Jerry

I think so. We'll, we'll, we'll stick with it. We'll stick with it. Do you watch some of the newer shows that, that have a direct series in each country? Like Love Island or Love is Blind?

Matt

So reality shows, um,

Jerry

Yes.

Matt

I don't, I don't, I have watched them. I've, I think I watched the very first series of Love Is Blind. I've seen married at First Sight.

Jerry

Right, right.

Matt

have things like Love Island, but they're not my go-to. I think. I think my time is limited, you know, so I, I, I tend

Jerry

I hear that.

Matt

yeah, they, they, I'm not sure how they translate differently. I've never watched sort of a different versions of them. You obviously do, 'cause you spend all your time watching that stuff, but, uh,

Jerry

Well, I'm, I, I'm an irresponsible individual, so I, I try to watch as much TV as possible. No, I, uh, it's just, I, the reason I mention it is reality TV in the UK is so much better here in the us. Folks are just tiptoeing around each other. That is not an option for whatever reason. In the uk, if there is an issue, if there's a concern, you're gonna hear about it.

Matt

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. There's, there's some well-known fights on things like Big Brother

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

and uh, uh, what's the one that we had of, which is our copy of Jersey Shore, um, Judy

Jerry

Uh, Jordy Shore.

Matt

shore.

Jerry

I've seen, I've seen Jordy, sho. It's not bad, but it's no Jersey Shore.

Matt

I think the first

Jerry

May, may, maybe it's 'cause I'm from Jersey.

Matt

yeah, that's like your home series really, isn't it? Yeah.

Jerry

Yeah. Did you watch the Jersey Shore at all?

Matt

I've never seen Jersey Shore. No.

Jerry

It's wonderful.

Matt

How far from where you are, is it based?

Jerry

An hour, maybe less, 45 minutes.

Matt

it's not

Jerry

Yeah. So I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm pretty, I'm pretty centered to, yeah, no, the Atlantic City's a bit more south. Uh, but as you know, I'm, I'm sort of in the center of the beach in Manhattan.

Matt

We covered ies, we covered thrillers. Um, yeah, I mean, here's another thing. So have you ever watched stuff from another country, another language? Do you put the subtitles on or do you change the audio?

Jerry

Well, I feel like now I put the subtitles on, even if it's in English. I don't know. I. I don't, I, I feel like Netflix got so many people accustomed to just having the, uh, the subtitles on. But it's, to answer your question, one of my favorite movies of all time is parasite, uh, the Korean sort of drama thriller.

Matt

Yeah, so I haven't seen it. So I watched, obviously I watched Squeak Game like everyone else.

Jerry

Of course. Yeah. Yeah.

Matt

it was till first couple of episodes. I didn't even realize that. The original version though. Was she speaking in Korean? I just thought they just filmed it in English though. That's how in my small centered world I am. I'm just, well they probably just filmed it in English. It's fine

Jerry

The, uh, the third season, the third season's gonna be in America. It'll be in Los Angeles.

Matt

Uh, yes. Yeah. So that's like a spinoff now it's squid game at LA

Jerry

Right, right.

Matt

Well yeah. Not getting away the ending for anyone's not watched it, but yeah, they, they've

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

game LA and

Jerry

Well, we can give away some info.

Matt

Yeah.

Jerry

of them die.

Matt

Yeah. All but one.

Jerry

Yeah. All but one die, which is a pretty British.

Matt

Yeah. But it wraps up. It does, it wraps up. So

Jerry

It does wrap up. Yeah. Yeah. There, there's a, there's a proper ending.

Matt

what is your, so at the moment, obviously Korean culture is quite big at the moment. Um, and obviously you have a, a young daughter. Are you, is your house just playing K-pop demon hunters on repeat or.

Jerry

Now. It's actually playing a very popular, uh, British

Peppa Pig ever get dark?

Jerry

show. Nonstop.

Matt

What's

Jerry

Can you guess what that is? Pep Pig.

Matt

Oh, okay. Yes. Yeah, I think, I think

Jerry

And that that is one rude little girl.

Matt

She's a bit entitled, isn't she?

Jerry

A a bit is, uh, a bit is carrying a lot of weight in that sentence.

Matt

So what you're saying is Pepper just needs a good slap. Just sort that child out.

Jerry

Oh man. Just a solid timeout. Something, I don't know, maybe boarding school.

Matt

Maybe, yeah, I, I, I don't think they're gonna do like a really dark

Jerry

I.

Matt

of Pepper Pig where she, you know, she gets beaten up or abused or anything like that. I don't think that's on the horizon.

Jerry

I think the parents should consider adoption, like giving her up for adoption.

Matt

Yeah. Um,

Jerry

That's, that's, that's my solution.

Matt

I, I, they seems very hands off parenting. I mean, the, the dad, I don't think, what have I seen him do? He's, he's either working or he's off playing football. I don't think he

Jerry

Right, right, right.

Matt

he's just, he's, he's zoned out at this, this point of his family life, hasn't he? He's just, uh, he's got a

Jerry

It, I mean.

Matt

say the word dinosaur. Mommy pig's upstairs working, but I don't see her bringing home the money. I think he's, he's doing it all. So it's just, I, I

Jerry

Where, where would you, where, where would you align the, the, the Peppa Pig family? Do, do you think they're more sort of like south, like Londonish area or they're, they're proper geezers,

Matt

Well, considering they're pigs that are not real, it's very hard to actually. Sort of regionalize a fictional

Jerry

right?

Matt

Uh, they've obviously got like, pepper Peak has very, a very posh accent. Like she, she's

Jerry

She does, she does.

Matt

she obviously goes to some sort of public school or something. Um. But it's a strange land as well. I mean, the whole land of pepper pig, wherever it is. I mean, they're all very, they're very lazy. No one does any work apart from, uh, Mrs. What's her name? Mrs. Rabbit. She's,

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

She's taking everyone's job. She's, she's coming over there taking everyone's job. No one else seems to be doing anything, and they seem, they seem okay with it. So I dunno how they're getting their

Jerry

Okay. So, so essentially you're saying, uh, it's Liverpool, Manchester. Got it.

Matt

Just watch now. Northern, Northern customers

Jerry

Yeah,

Matt

for tuning. Thanks for tuning.

Jerry

exactly. Thanks for tuning in.

Matt

Yeah,

Jerry

Everyone in Northern England.

Matt

It's, it's definitely a British, uh, seaside town. Um,

Jerry

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt

Yeah. I mean, maybe think for another episode, but, but regionally it's like, it's, think that a, a seaside town would be a nice extravagant area, but sometimes you go to 'em and you think, ah, I'm gonna leave quickly. I think this isn't for me.

Jerry

What, what's Brighton is what, like three, four blocks of like solid hotels?

Matt

yeah, so Bri Brighton's different, there's some that obviously they're, they're too big to foul, but some of the smaller

Jerry

Right? Right.

Matt

tourism moved away from Britain, so these all built on tourism. just nothing there from now. Uh, it's, they're very dead, but yeah. Brighton, you've always wanted to go. Brighton. Every time you come out, you go, let's go bright and let's go bright. And I

Jerry

Yeah,

Matt

what you've got in your head, what you're expecting, but it's, it's nice, but it's not gonna be.

Jerry

definitely. I wanna go for the gay bars. No, uh, I just, uh, I, I, I did hear that about Brighton. There's a ton of, ton of gay bars. Um.

Matt

a capital of England

Jerry

Yeah,

Matt

Hmm.

Jerry

that makes sense why you're there once a month. But what I would add is they also have a casino, from my understanding.

Matt

Probably. Yeah.

Jerry

Yeah. Yeah. And uh, it should, it has to, it's a, it's the seaside town

Matt

It's

Jerry

the uk.

Matt

Yeah. I mean

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

there's, if you think of Seaside Towns, you've got Blackpool, that's another place you'd like to visit. That's, that's the

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

we're talking, we circle background now. So the Vegas of the UK is

Jerry

Probably closer to Atlantic City. Maybe not Vegas, but, uh.

Matt

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. As, as someone that's been to Atlantic City, I'd say Blackpool's that you've got, you've got obviously new, the Cornish town is, is very

Jerry

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Matt

you've got Blackpool. They're the, they're the. sorry, Brighton. They're the three that you know are definitely on the map.

Jerry

New key seems more familial.

Matt

Yeah, yeah.

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

Bournemouth as well. And he's Bourne. There are other places, but, uh, it seems that these sort of seaside towns, that's where they're very sort of, um, staggering head popular. when a bachelor bachelorette party, they tend to go to the seaside towns like Brighton, Blackpool, new key. Something about it. Those, you know, last days before you trapped is wanna see the sea. You wanna see the sea, don't you?

Jerry

Yeah, exactly.

Matt

Um, yeah. So we, we stayed off topic of TV shows. It was kind of a TV

Jerry

We, we, we did. We did. It's just whenever we get a chance to make fun of Brits, I just can't help myself. I think that's the issue.

Matt

yeah,

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

And it's like.

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

We allow it to happen. It's like when you, a, uh, you've got a niece or something and then they're a little slow and you see if they don't mind them laughing at you, you let them have a little Jeb. fine. We allow it.

Jerry

Oh goodness. But no, just, uh,

Matt

the good news is we can't get canceled because we're nobody's. So who's gonna

Jerry

that's right,

Matt

Yeah.

Jerry

that's right. Well, I was gonna say though, just kind of circling back to the TV shows, I find that, again, because of streaming services, I find a lot of these. Shows that are just not American being really popular with the younger generation. Right. Not just the Peppa pigs, but Australian. Right. If we look at Bluey, this house loves Bluey, and I'm pretty sure that you guys have watched Bluey as well.

Matt

Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely, you know, it's, it is a banging theme tune. I mean, that's what I like in a, if a program's got a great theme tune that's gonna bring me in.

Jerry

Right, right, right, right. So you, you're just, you're just jamming it in the car.

Matt

Can never hit the timing right. But it doesn't matter.

Jerry

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt

Um.

Jerry

speaking, speaking of tunes and, and I, I should have asked you in the beginning of the call, uh, did you go to your, was it fourth or fifth Oasis concert last week?

Matt

it was third. Um, and

Jerry

It was the third. Okay.

Matt

uh,

Oasis concert again?

Matt

anyone that listening that's aware of Oasis, you understand they are probably the best band in the world. Um, so what I did

Jerry

That's an outrageous statement.

Matt

it's, it is a statement, but I think there's, there's gravitas

Jerry

It's a statement.

Matt

There's gravitas,

Jerry

That's fair.

Matt

Uh, so I went in hard this time. I made sure that I had a good sort of six, seven pipes before I even got to the venue. Um, then when I got there, I continued to drink because you

Jerry

Right.

Matt

awkward curve. And I made

Jerry

Of course.

Matt

around me knew I was drinking. So, you know the people to the left? Me?

Jerry

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt

Yeah.

Jerry

What's, what's the point of drinking if everyone's not gonna know you're drinking? Yeah.

Matt

got to the point when the people in front of me, they turned around and they sort of questioned, uh, had I had enough to drink and I said, no, thank you. So I carried on.

Jerry

No thank you.

Matt

And they regret at that because then, you know, I had a target then it was, uh, some woman, and I said, I thought she was with her husband. I went, look, I'm, I'm sure you and your husband have a lovely time. And she went, oh, he, he's, he's not my husband, it's my, my best friend's husband. And I said, I reply to that was, am I a Coldplay concert? What's

Jerry

Exactly

Matt

she turned around?

Jerry

can.

Matt

yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of spread out. It's not just Coldplay, now it's moving to Oasis.

Jerry

That's right. Well, and just to confirm, this is your third Oasis concert. How many cover bands have you seen at various pubs?

Matt

Oh, uh, what not Oasis, just random cover bands.

Jerry

Yes. Oasis cover bands. Mm-hmm.

Matt

uh, only two. I saw one just before, so before I went to the Oasis, I went see Oasis cover band just before. Um, then I saw one at a festival, but I don't think I've actually ever seen an Oasis cover band.

Jerry

You, you also took me to one in Manchester.

Matt

No. No. So that was an Oasis themed bar. That wasn't an Oasis

Jerry

Ah,

Matt

band.

Jerry

I I thought the band was playing various Oasis songs.

Matt

I think they might have played, I think it's kind of a given, if you're there,

Jerry

Yes.

Matt

one or two Oasis songs, but they, they were playing other stuff as well, so it wasn't an Oasis cover band you know, and would buy a cover band. The singer would try and look like Liam Gaa and, and et cetera. That's just, they play some oasis there, are great. It's

Jerry

It.

Matt

maybe Great bar in Manchester. Check it out.

Jerry

Yeah, check it out. It's also, it's also for our, our, our gay listeners, it's a gay bar as well. 'cause there were literally only men at that bar.

Matt

Maybe they wouldn't like to sponsor us. I dunno. Either way. I think when we went in there, there wasn't a single woman in there, but it was

Jerry

There was not a single woman in there.

Matt

it was very much just men sing along to Oasis songs. But

Jerry

Correct. And they were hugging.

Matt

you have to, if you don't have your arm around someone in Oasis concert or Oasis setting, are you really there? I, I don't, I,

Jerry

That's That's fair. That's fair.

Matt

Yeah,

Jerry

fair. It brings the crowd together.

Matt

it does. So when you go to your bad bunny concerts and they're not

Jerry

Yes. Yes.

Matt

hugging and singing,

Jerry

There's dancing, quite a bit of dancing. So dancing with your partner or you know, if you're by yourself or just with friends. Maybe you're a random person, right? A lot of dancing.

Matt

at a concert? Here though, let's be honest.

Jerry

Oh, a bad bunny concert. You'll see some solos.

Matt

Ready?

Cinemas

Jerry

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Matt

done a solo concert.

Jerry

I

Matt

it was, it's only recently I've done solo cinema and I dunno why it took me so long to do solo cinema, but I've never done solo concert yet.

Jerry

What, uh, what kind of movie theater was it?

Matt

You know the

Jerry

And did you? And did, and did you walk in with a trench coat and nothing underneath?

Matt

The standard cinema trench coat paid my mission. You know, uh, a lot of men there masturbating, just standard cinema.

Jerry

Yeah. Like on a scale of one to 10, how sticky were the seats?

Matt

Uh, yeah, I'm gonna say it, it it, I probably got banned. It was, I didn't realize I, I misread the film of Despicable Me. I thought it was a different sort of film. So I got asked to leave. Uh, they should have made it clear by what Despicable Me meant. So

Jerry

Right, right, right.

Matt

them. Yeah. There's a lot of kids around.

Jerry

That, that is just, just given sort of the dark themes, not even the dark themes, but just the very pragmatic themes and sort of the guilt trips of British culture. That's a proper poor name, despicable me for a UK porn film.

Matt

Yeah. Especially 'cause it just gives it like spic me for, you're like, okay. So it's obviously a series now

Jerry

Yeah, well, it, it'll probably end at three series, but that's it.

Matt

Yeah. Yeah. Unlike backdoor slots nine now that's, that's just going and going, isn't it?

Jerry

Now that, that.

Matt

I need to know, if I haven't seen one to eight, will I understand nine?

Jerry

Boy, I don't think so. I think you should really watch, sit down with the wife and, uh, just kind of get to know the characters.

Matt

Or is it like, are they different trilogies, like different Star Wars? There's nine Star Wars films and that's broken down to three triages. Is it broken down? Like that one's a prequel maybe. I dunno.

Jerry

Yeah. I don't know how much of this we're going to utilize, uh, but I feel like my so, so I'll still say it. I feel like,

Matt

it?

Jerry

yeah. Yeah. So I. I had the internet, uh, in my younger years readily available.

Matt

Yeah. I didn't grow

Jerry

So I wasn't, so, yeah, so I wasn't, you know, like just watching something like a different series on a, on A-V-H-S-I

Matt

Not for

Jerry

was sorted. Like were, were, were you buying magazines?

Matt

No,

Jerry

I'm gonna go ahead and think Yes, either way, but.

Matt

yeah. Yeah.

Jerry

No, no, probably, maybe,

Matt

reader's stories. Nothing. Nothing beats it. Does

Jerry

nah. I'm assuming it was like National Geographics or something.

Matt

Yeah. Smash it.

Jerry

Yeah,

Matt

Again, I dunno if you have smashes, but that probably sounds like that sort of magazine to you, doesn't it?

Jerry

it does. It does.

Matt

Did you? I'll take it. They're like, pop music magazine smashes very big in the nineties. Every week you get it. And every week there'd be a a section there where it'd have some current songs and it'd have the lyrics printed out. And that was the only way you could find out the lyrics to songs back then. Now you got on the internet and you, you find out I lost the lyrics to this song, but you had to wait. Was it in smash sheets that week? Yes. Now I finally know the lyrics too. Uh, spice Girls wanna be Get in.

Jerry

Yeah, without, again, the internet has just made everything so accessible. So backdoor sluts nine, just May. Maybe we should, maybe we should host a party where we played some O where we play some older films.

Matt

so you might have those sort of parties where you live with, but they're not something I partake in. Maybe people come and.

Jerry

I was, I can go to the cinema that you frequent.

Matt

Yeah. Don't, I'm banned now I need to know, um, dear Backdoor, sluts nine. Obviously it's American 'cause it's gone on to the ninth one. Did it wrap up on the last one?

Jerry

I am not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not into sluts. It's not, it's not my thing, you know,

Matt

It's not the anal, it's just the sluts.

Jerry

I, I'm more of a front door kind of guy, you know, I'm, I'm a gentleman.

Matt

Front door respectable people four.

Jerry

Yeah.

Matt

that sounds very

Jerry

Man.

Matt

it?

Jerry

This podcast has really taken a turn.

Matt

Yeah. Yeah. It's gone dark quickly, isn't it? Hmm.

Jerry

I think this is what happens when we go beyond the 20 minute mark. We just start going off the rails.

Matt

Yeah. People will see from now on episode lengths of 10 minutes, just a quick, you

Jerry

Yeah, exactly.

Matt

Okay. Well, I think we've hit 30 minutes and I think

Jerry

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt

before we get arrested or or other, we should probably this up.

Jerry

That's right.

Matt

see you next time. And just a

Jerry

We shall, uh, see you soon.

Matt

I'm gonna do some admin on the, on the call. Jerry, don't forget when I stop recording, can you not leave? 'cause it will delete your

Jerry

Oh, that's right. Yes, that would be helpful. You know what? Lemme get the fuck outta here. All right.

Matt

alright. Catch you next time.

Jerry

Alright. Cheers.

Matt

Right?