The Bible Exalted 033 Mystery Babylon

The Bible Exalted! is a podcast program that seeks to uplift the word of God which is being highly exalted at this time. Each episode explores both sides of a doctrine, examining how one passage of Scripture may seem to teach one truth while another points in a different direction. Through careful study, the program seeks to uncover the harmony of the Bible as a whole, showing which understanding aligns with the full testimony of Scripture.


"...rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15

About Panel Speakers:

Chris McCann:
Chris grew up in Philadelphia. Like many of God’s elect, he was first raised in the ways of the world until God drew him to His Word, the Bible. With an earnest desire to study the Scriptures and uncover the mysteries hidden within them, Chris—together with others—founded the ministry of eBibleFellowship. The ministry is dedicated to faithfully proclaiming all that is written in the Word of God and striving to remain true to its teachings.

Bob Grande:
Bob was also raised in the Philadelphia area.  God drew him to be interested in studying the Bible in the early 1990's.  He attended church until 2001 and departed out after learning about the end of the church age. He is currently seeking to grow in the grace of God.


Gary Daniels:
Gary from Philadelphia: Gary grew up listening to both a faithful ministry that at the time declared the truth from the Bible for many years, but also was under the pentecostal church. God led him toward the truth and is thankful for God's mercy showing many truth's from the Bible

Karl von Harringa:
Karl was born and raised in Ohio, just outside of Columbus. From an early age, he was brought up under the hearing of the truth and developed an interest in the Bible. He grew up in a household where the Word of God was central.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

And now here's a pre-recording of an eBible Fellowship panel discussion. Good night, everyone, and welcome again to eBible Fellowships, the Bible Exalted Program. I'm your host, Gary Daniels, and we are seeking the Bible's answers to various topics, in which the Bible has the final say in the matter. Joining us tonight are our beloved three panel speakers, Bob Grandi, Chris McCann, and Carl von Herenga. Folks, you're watching us via Zoom or other streaming platforms. This is a one and a half hour program. And for folks that are watching live, it's one and a half hours. And at a later rebroadcast, it will be one hour. Tonight's discussion is the inheritance. That's the inheritance. You can join us via eBiblefellowship.org. And once again, this is a one-hour program. We'd like to hear uh your perspective. So at the half hour mark, we'll open up the lines for callers. We'd like to hear your on-topic questions. All right, so let's go to our panel. And today's topic is the inheritance, and we'll start with you, Bob.

SPEAKER_02 1:15

Thanks, Gary. Yeah, in the Bible, the idea of inheritance can point to many different things, but um I'm just going to talk about two important spiritual inheritances. First, inheritance in the Bible can be defined by saying that all of God's elect people inherit the Lord Jesus Christ and eternal life. And this is because God chose his elect people before the foundation of the world, and his choosing was based exclusively on his good pleasure, not anything that mankind has done. And in eternity past, Christ died and resurrected at the foundation of the world, and by this action he became the Son of God. And this finished work paid for all the sins of all the elect who he had chosen. Then after Christ created the universe and this world, he was obligated to give the Holy Spirit and salvation and eternal life to everyone that was elected or chosen. That is, everyone whose name was written in the Lamb's book of life. And this inheritance of Jesus Christ and eternal life for every elect individual first began when God gave him or her a new resurrected soul at some point during their physical life. And we read about this in uh Ephesians 1, verse 11. Now read that. In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will. And the last part of verse 13 in Ephesians 1 describes the receiving of our new resurrected soul as being sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise. And then verse 14 tells us that that Holy Spirit of promise is the earnest, which is an old English word meaning down payment. It's the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession unto the praise of his glory. So the promise spoken of here is the certainty that God will complete all of his elect's inherited gift of eternal life when each of his elect are either resurrected or raptured on the last day of Earth's existence. We have learned from the Bible that there is abundant evidence pointing to that last day occurring sometime in the year 2033. And on that day, all of God's elect will receive their new spiritual bodies and will live and dwell forevermore in the new heaven and new earth with our Lord Jesus Christ. And what an incredibly tremendous inheritance that would be. And we don't deserve it, not anybody. That means he made us born again, unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. And that's talking about it in eternity past. I'm sorry, chapter one, verses three and four. And lastly, in Matthew 19, verse 29, and everyone that hath forsaken houses or brethren or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands for my name's sake shall receive in hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. So that's the first uh way of looking at inheritance. The second way is it an inheritance in the Bible can also be defined by saying that the Lord Jesus Christ inherits his elect people. And there's a few verses I want to read that point this out. In Psalm 33, verse 12, Blessed is the nation whose God is Jehovah, and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance. And Psalm 74, verse 2, remember thy congregation which thou hast purchased of old, the rod of thine inheritance, which thou hast redeemed, this Mount Zion, wherein thou hast dwelt. So the Bible teaches that God's elect people inherit Christ and eternal life as a free gift of God's grace. And at the same time, Christ inherits all of his elect people based on the truth that he paid for all of their sins at the foundation of the world. And uh lastly, there's there's a verse uh in in Revelation 21 that kind of uh uh looks at both ways uh of this biblical inheritance that I've been talking about in Revelation 21, 6 and 7. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is the thirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. And like I mentioned before, there's other ways of looking at biblical inheritance, but I'm sure we'll get into that as we, you know, through tonight's discussion, but I'll give it back to you guys at this point. Thanks, Bob.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

Uh I like the fact that the inheritance is legally given. It it has to be righteously obtained. And uh it really is a blessing that God's people obtain an inheritance that they did not work for, that Christ, on behalf of his elect, you know, purchased. It's a purchased inheritance on behalf of those uh who did not inherit that by their own works. It was Christ's work.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

Yeah, it's a great mystery that that it's by his good pleasure, you know, that he he did this. And uh that's very mysterious to me.

SPEAKER_04 8:45

You mentioned um that Christ uh uh inherits his elect a little earlier. Uh Numbers 18 talks about um how uh how God is our inheritance. It says also as well, it says Jehovah spake unto Aaron, thou shalt have no inheritance in the land, neither shalt thou have any part among them. I am thy part and thine inheritance among the children of Israel. And that also reminded me of um what remember God told Abraham in Genesis, I I am thy exceeding great reward. I think that's Genesis fifteen. Yeah, he says uh Genesis 15.1. It doesn't use the word inheritance, but just reminded me of it. After these things, the word of Jehovah came unto Abraham in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abraham, I am thy shield and thy exceeding great reward. I just wanted to add to the what he had said to that.

SPEAKER_05 9:41

Yeah, yeah, I want to add something to what Bob was saying too in Ephesians 1, um where in verse 11 uh it says, In whom ye also trusted after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also after that ye believed, and of course we believed uh because God gave us um a heart to believe. Um we're saved by the faith of Christ, and afterward we believe. After that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise, and and to be sealed, the uh 12,000 of the 12 tribes were sealed in Revelation 7. Uh, it it has to do with being sealed by the Holy Spirit in salvation. When someone becomes saved, we're we're given the Holy Spirit. A lot of people think that's salvation. That's, you know, I have the Spirit of God, but that, as Bob pointed out, is the down payment of the whole package, and that's why it says you were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession that is our bodies, our bodies, until they're like Romans 8 talks about the redemption of the body, and and until then we have the spirit um as a down payment on on the whole purchase that God has purchased, which is us, you're bought with a price, and uh it's it's meant to comfort us, to encourage us, if he who has begun a good work in you will finish it in the day of the Lord Jesus. So uh uh in this life it's only begun and it will be finished. The word promise, that Holy Spirit, you're a seal with that Holy Spirit of promise, um which is the earnest of our inheritance. Uh I found a few verses where promise and inheritance go together in Hebrews six. In Hebrews six, it says, starting in verse twelve, that ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises. So uh faith and patience. Revelation thirteen, here uh is the faith and the patience of the saints. Uh-huh. Revelation 14, uh here is the patience and faith of the saints, the two tribulations. Uh-huh. Chapter 13 is the Great Tribulation, Chapter 14's Judgment Day. So the followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises. What's been the problem with people who have gone back since May 21, 2011? No patience, no faith, but but also not waiting on the Lord, just jumping to conclusions, wrong um, deadly conclusions, and and and that's why you have to have faith. You have to have uh faith and patience, like it says in Hebrews 10, um in verse 35, cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompense of reward, for you have need of patience, that after you have done the will of God ye might receive the promise. For yet a little while and he that shall come will come and will not tarry. Now the just shall live by faith, but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition, but to them that believe to the saving of the soul. So we have need of patience that we might receive the promise. What promise? What promise? The inheritance that that through faith and patience inherit the promises. Well not only that, not only all of God's promises, but they're all kind of wrapped up in the inheritance, as Bob also mentioned, Matthew 19, 28, uh the the inheritance of everlasting life. That's the promise of God that we will receive everlasting life. In Hebrews 9, in verse 15, it says, and for this cause he is the mediator of the New Testament that by means of death for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. Again, promise, eternal inheritance, and it's tied to the mediator of the New Testament, who by means of death, right? There there has to be someone who dies before you get the inheritance. If no one dies, you don't get the inheritance. And it is the death of Christ, the lamb slain from the foundation of the world, that has provided his people throughout the whole history of the world, the promise of the inheritance. Now, now um that is Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, they were saved. Noah found grace in the eyes of God, and they were forgiven their sins because the blood was shed at the foundation of the world, but still it's been a promise throughout all ages, uh, which is why at the end of Hebrews 11, God makes reference to all the people of faith, and he says in verse 39 and 40, and these all having obtained a good report through faith, receive not the promise. God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. They will not be made perfect, that is, receive a new resurrected body. Without us, all on the last day will receive the fullness of the promise concerning the uh eternal inheritance. We will be equipped with a new resurrected body that is uh sufficient or or capable of eternal life, of living forevermore. And um and and and so uh I have a few more verses, but uh do you want to say something, Bob?

SPEAKER_02 16:55

No, I was just coughing. I I was doing the old mute thing with my finger.

SPEAKER_05 17:02

How do I shut this guy up? No, not at all.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

But you know, I I I'm not sure if this is a direct relation, but when I think about uh the brothers, Cain and Abel, Jacob and Esau, and the the birthright, the birthright, and and how the the birthright was so sought after, and Jacob supplanted his brother for it. And it and it also reminds me of the prodigal son. He goes to his father and he says, You know, give me the goods that befalleth unto me. And he divided them his portion. Now I looked at the words, and it's not the inheritance, but spiritually, I I'm not sure what that would represent, but it seems to fall in line that the the inheritance has a lot to do with the gift of salvation, and and they're seeking that, or at least, or at least a picture of that. Would you would you agree, uh, Chris and and gentlemen?

SPEAKER_05 17:59

Yeah, I was I was gonna talk about that, yeah. With Esau.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

Were you gonna talk about Esau? I was gonna I was gonna mention both if nobody else. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Well, no, I mean, yeah, like like uh with with uh the prodigal son, uh he took everything that I guess he was expecting to get when his father died, and he said, give it to me now. And you know, and uh and then he went off and and spent it on riotous living, and then uh yeah, I I I think that that does have to do with uh inheritance. I mean, the the parable points to the fact that he realized, you know, oh here I am eating what the swine eat. Let me go back to my father's house where you know even the servants have uh are are being well taken care of. And I think bred to the full. Yeah, so yeah, it's a beautiful picture of salvation, uh, that where he he really uh was, he did receive the inheritance. Uh true inheritance. The true inheritance of it was pointing to salvation. Yeah, Chris, if you want to talk about Jacob and Esau, go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 19:09

Well, I I was just gonna mention Hebrews 12, um, where God is referring to Esau, and he says um in verse 15, looking diligently, lest any man fail of the grace of God, lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled, lest there be any fornicator or profane person as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright, for ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. So there God does say that had to do with with the inheritance uh and and he's rejected. And the word the word rejected is um translated mostly disallowed. Now the the headstone on the corner was was disallowed. So the nation of Israel didn't won Christ, and they rejected him. And so he was Esau was disallowed, and he found no place of repentance, and and God is telling us that's what he was after with the tears. And Father was no blessing for me, even for me.

SPEAKER_04 20:38

So that would tie in seeking wouldn't that tie in with seeking salvation and a time where it's too late because he's he's sought he's seeking it carefully with tears, isn't that what like the rich man essentially was doing, not with tears, but he was looking for that drop of salvation.

SPEAKER_05 20:55

Yeah. Yeah, I think it does tie in um with the time at the end.

SPEAKER_03 21:01

Um because um oh what was what was I gonna say?

SPEAKER_05 21:08

Yeah, uh I I I think it does relate the the oh the separation of the wheat and the tares. Um you know, God um rejected the tares.

SPEAKER_03 21:22

Oh, the fish too, I think. Um where is that?

unknown 21:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:30

There's also a separation of the fish in the New Testament where he they catch the fish and they're separating the good from the bad.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

Yeah. Uh Chris, while while you're looking there, there's a uh there's another set of verses that have at length promise and inheritance. I thought I'd uh read it uh in Galatians three, verses fifteen to eighteen. Brethren, I speak after the manner of men. Though it's Be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth or addeth thereto. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made, he saith not, and to seeds as of many, but as of one, and to thy seed, which is Christ. And this I say that the covenant that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul that it should make the promise of non-effect. For if the inheritance of the law, I'm sorry, for if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise. But God gave it to Abraham by promise. So there it is. The inheritance and the promise are linked. And it's not by the law, it's by promise.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

Interesting. Uh, if I may, it reminds me of Ruth the Moabites, where the other man, the other kinsman, he didn't want to mar his own inheritance. So he said, I cannot redeem it. Let me let me read that verse. This is Ruth chapter four, verse six. And the kinsman said, I cannot redeem it for myself, lest I mar mine own inheritance. Redeem thou my right to thyself, for I cannot redeem it. And I like the fact that, you know, sometimes we do mourn or many times we mourn about folks who are not true elect children of God. But when I read stories like this, it really it really shows how someone who's who's not truly saved does not want the salvation of Jehovah and they despise it. And and and it's in our nature, it's our nature to re to to to be an offense to the truth. And so as we do uh sorrow and grieve uh for folks, you we also know that, and and this has happened many times. You could be at a an outing and you see it maybe a lovely couple or you just have a conversation, and if it goes to the Bible, it gets awkward very quickly. And you can feel the energy change, and and even though we mourn for folks, we can see that we despise the inheritance by nature, unless God, unless God purchases and promises to perform that good work in us, to fulfill His His Word, we don't want the inheritance, just like the kinsmen here who cannot redeem it.

SPEAKER_05 24:40

And Esau uh with the bowl of porridge, he he despised it. He definitely despised the birthright, and the birthright was tied to the blessing, and God relates that to the inheritance. Um is that you, Carl?

SPEAKER_04 25:00

Uh yeah, I want to just check on your mic because it sounds a little bit distant. Yeah, I just wanted I just wanted to see if it was connected to uh it's been like this the past few uh yeah it's not connected um to the roadcaster. Let's try that. Yeah, that's much better.

SPEAKER_03 25:22

Oh you you can hear me?

SPEAKER_04 25:24

That's better, much better. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

Yeah, it sounds distant. Yeah, this is much better. All right, well, thanks. I I thought I had wonders of modern technology.

SPEAKER_05 25:36

Oh, that's normally Carl, but Carl's here. He wouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

The hearing ear.

SPEAKER_05 25:42

Um the the promise um is also mentioned in um Galatians three. Galatians three, uh, along with being an heir. It says in Galatians three, well, actually, why don't we go back Genesis 17? Genesis 15, then Genesis 17, and we'll see um the promise that God gave to Abram in Genesis 15, in verse um in uh verse five, and he brought him forth abroad and said, Look now toward heaven and tell the stars if thou be able to number them. And he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. And he believed in Jehovah, and he counted it to him for righteousness. And um that's complicated. It is not Abraham's belief that was counted to him for righteousness, but God counted the faith of Christ, the righteousness of Christ, the atonement of Christ already performed to Abram for righteousness, and he said unto him, I am Jehovah that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees to give thee this land to inherit it. And he said, Lord Jehovah, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it? And then he lays out the sacrifices. But notice that God brought Abram out of the land of Babylon, Ur of the Chaldees, to inherit the land, and the land of Canaan in Genesis 17 is said to be an everlasting land in verses seven and eight, and I will establish my covenant between me and thee, and thy seed after thee, in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, and I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan for an everlasting possession, and I will be their God. So God gives Abram in chapter 17, he's Abraham, the promise of the land for an everlasting possession. And he told them this when he came out of Ver of the Chaldees. He came out of Babylon, and uh and and it's uh not long after that uh 25 years, uh actually 75 uh 24 years, because he's 99, and then next year Isaac will be born when he's 100. So um that relates to what God has done with us. Come out, come out of the churches, uh, and in the day of judgment, come out of Babylon, which is the world, be separate, in order to prepare us for receiving the inheritance. And um the what what I was trying to think of earlier, there there's a verse, I can't I still can't think of it, but it indicates that that God will um he will reject like he did Esau, he will reject the tares, let's say, and then he'll have his people who are the weak. And the the promise is not for the ungodly, it's not for the unsaved, even if they're professed Christian, it is for the truly saved. And so um, when when this is put together, you know, properly, when you put the verses together, the end of the church age makes sense. It is God dividing, dividing uh wheat from tear to gather his sons, his children, for the receiving of the promise uh of the new heaven and new earth.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Well, thank you, Chris. Let me just pause really to check in with the audience. We're gonna open up the program after your complete thought, Chris. Please go ahead, Chris.

SPEAKER_05 30:15

Well, yeah, uh going back to Genesis 17, the promise, to Abraham and his seed. That's mentioned a few times. And in Galatians 3, uh, I think we're familiar with this. God says in verse 16, now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not and to seeds as of many, but as of one, and to thy seed, which is Christ. So the promises made to Abraham and to his seed singular, which is Christ, Christ receives the inheritance. He receives the inheritance of the land of Canaan, uh, for an everlasting possession. And then in Galatians 3, verses 28 and 29, there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bon nor free, there is neither male nor female, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if he be Christ, then are ye, and that's plural, plural you, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. And the heir receives the inheritance. So in Christ, all that he has named, predestinated, like Ephesians 1 tells us, elected to salvation, are counted for the seed in him. So he's really the one who inherits, and we inherit in him the promises, and the promises are a new heaven, new earth. And um, by the way, in the Old Testament, the word promise, uh, for example, in Psalm 105, in verse 42, it says there, uh, for he remembered his holy promise, and Abraham his servant, and he brought forth his people with joy, and his chosen with gladness, and gave them the lands of the heathen, the land of Canaan. And they inherited the labor of the people. So he remembered his holy promise. We can see how that fits in with all these other verses, the promise of the inheritance, and the word promise in Psalm 105.42 is debar, the Hebrew word for word. He remembered his holy word. He remembered the Bible as the holy word of God, and that relates all scripture to God's promises. It's not just specifically what he has said regarding the land of Canaan uh or or um other things, but it's everything. Everything uh comes under the heading of the promises of God. Everything that he has said that requires fulfillment is a promise, and he will fulfill the whole thing. He'll fulfill everything. Uh and he well, he's fulfilled a great many of those things now, and just just a few things remain.

SPEAKER_04 33:46

It is also interesting that he left at age 75, because we know that's the uh a factor of 4200 years that he's leaving Ur of the Caladis, right, to into the the promised land at age seventy-five, and then exactly 4200 years or 75 times 56 takes you to 2033. You know, so from his birth to when he turns 75.

unknown 34:12

Right.

SPEAKER_05 34:13

So it so uh he's born 2167, he turns 75 um 2092.

SPEAKER_03 34:23

Yes, 2092.

SPEAKER_05 34:25

So you're saying from 2092, there's a series of 75 years? Yeah, it takes you all the way to 2033. Again and again and again and again until you get to 2033. Right.

SPEAKER_04 34:36

Yeah, it's just a factor, because 75 in is a factor of 4200. You know, just like just like his age of 173.

SPEAKER_05 34:45

So so 2092 wouldn't be 4200.

SPEAKER_04 34:50

Well, it would you start from his birth, so when you turn 75, that would be the first set. Then you go another 75. You do that for a total of 56 times from his birth. So the very first 75-year increment is when he leaves to to Canaan.

SPEAKER_05 35:09

Oh, yeah, 50 56.

SPEAKER_04 35:11

Yeah, and that breaks down to seven times eight.

SPEAKER_03 35:13

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 35:14

Seven times eight or fifty-six, yeah, seven times eight. Well, that that's amazing that these series, these run-ons, the that's like the fifth or the sixth one, at least. Yeah, yeah, but and it a lot of it's centered right around 2167. From 2167, right, you go to 2033, and it is uh a breakdown of 40. I I don't know the exact breakdown. 25, 105, 105 times 40, which means from 2167, you go 40 years, 40 years, 40 years. 105 times, you end up at 2033, and that's when Abraham's born. But at the same starting point that you're now bringing up, goes 75, and then when he's 75, you keep going, keep going, 75, 75, all the way to 2033 again. And tell him the other one, Carl, 175. Right. 175 times 24, right? Well, well, why? Why 175? Because that's his entire lifespan. How long he died. He died, yeah. He died in 1992 BC, at age 175. So it's not that we're selecting the number. That that's what's amazing. God's selecting the number because it's his death age, 175. Then you go 175, 175, how many times? 24. 24 times, and and you land on 2033. It's 23 from his death. 24 from his birth. God gives us 175. We follow that number, and we come to this year that that so much else is focused on. Uh yeah, I'm really amazed by these series of numbers.

SPEAKER_02 37:11

All of this is uh all of this is shown on on our website on the on the uh count on the uh calendar that you've created, right?

SPEAKER_04 37:18

Yeah, it's on the timeline page, yeah. Uh the the 75 is interesting because I noticed Mr. Camping had pointed that out in the book, and he said he left Ur of the Chaldes, which is Babylon. So that was spiritually leaving the world, going into the promised land, Canaan. But just think about that for a moment. That time path leads you to 2033, the crossing, that's the inheritance, right?

SPEAKER_05 37:40

Yeah, where there's biblical evidence we leave this world and go to the actual kingdom of God. So yeah, uh that's what's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 37:49

And here's a here's a minor point. I'm sure you're this term you're gonna feel like it's familiar. The daughters of Zalapahad. I know that rings a bell, but these these daughters uh unfortunately their father died, and they weren't married, and they wanted to have the inheritance. He didn't have any sons, right? That's right. Yeah. And there was a a legal possession that had to take place. And since there were no sons, they had to marry. They had to marry that was lawful in order for them to obtain within their tribe. But interestingly enough, the daughters or that phrase Elapahad is used eight times, and it just reminds me of of God's elect, who are hopefully, if I understand correctly, are a picture of these daughters who are to obtain an inheritance, and it's listed um eight times in the Bible. Interesting.

SPEAKER_05 38:47

I think that's probably correct that they're a picture of the elect.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

Yeah, there's another uh there's a verse in Matthew 5, uh, verse 5, it says, Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

SPEAKER_05 39:01

And you know, the word will inherit the land of Canaan.

SPEAKER_02 39:06

Sorry?

SPEAKER_05 39:06

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

No, no, no. That yeah, the land of Canaan. That's uh the new heaven and new earth. Uh, and that's what this is talking about. They shall the meek shall inherit the new heaven and new earth. And uh who are the meek? The meek are everyone that's that's their names are written in the Lamb's book of life. It's not because uh they're you know meek in the in the in the sense that we uh the human way of being meek. This is just a identifier that God gives to his elect once they become saved. So they will inherit the earth. And uh we uh we were also talking about uh Jacob and Esau, where Jacob represents all of the elect, Jacob have I loved, and Esau represents all of those that were not elect. Uh Esau I have hated. And there's uh some verses that talk about those uh those of the uh ones that are Esau. And it says, um in uh let's see. No, I don't have that. I don't have those verses handy. I thought I did. I just I just have the ones that are names, their names that are written in the Lamb's book of life. Uh for instance, Philippians 4, verse 3. And I entreat thee also, true yoke fellow, help those women which labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellow laborers, whose names are in the book of life. And in uh Revelation 21, 27, and there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth well, this these are those that are of Esau, that uh anything that defileth, neither uh whatsoever worketh abomination or maketh a lie. Uh but on the other hand, but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life, so only those that are written in the Lamb's book of life will enter will inherit the earth. They are the ones that are the meek.

SPEAKER_04 41:22

That also ties in with Psalms uh 37 and 11. But the meek shall inherit the earth and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

SPEAKER_05 41:31

Yeah. And uh actually, Psalm 37, if we look at verse 9, for evildoers shall be cut off, but those that wait upon Jehovah they shall inherit the earth. And verse 11, I think that's what you just read, the meek shall inherit the earth, shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. Verse 22, for such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth, and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off. They will not inherit the earth, but but those who are meek, those who are blessed. And then in verse 29, the righteous shall inherit the land. In the Hebrew the word land is translated often as earth. The righteous shall inherit the land and dwell therein forever. Another eternal promise. And in verse thirty-four, wait on Jehovah, keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land. When the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it. And that's today we're seeing the wicked cut off. When God shut the door, that's what he did. I have all my people within, and now uh all the unsaved are without, and it's fixed. There's not to be any change. Um eternally, uh this will be this will be everyone's spiritual condition is established. Uh there there's another verse in Psalm twenty-five, in verses twelve and thirteen, where it says, uh, what man is he that feareth Jehovah? Him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose. His soul shall dwell at ease, and his seed shall inherit the earth. Back to the seed. Now, this helps us in interpreting Genesis 17, where we read of the seed will um inherit, Genesis 17, in verse 8, and I will give unto thee and to thy seed after thee the land. And it's the same thing for this word land. It's translated. Hundreds of times as earth. But here it's specified the land of Canaan. So it's correct. The land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession, and I will be their God. So the seed um will receive an everlasting possession of the land of Canaan. And God is using the land of Canaan as a figure of the new heaven and new earth to come. It is not a promise to um to Abraham's physical descendants. It's not a promise to those who are blood related, you know, the Jews who could maybe perhaps trace their line back to Abraham. This is not a promise to them, nor is it a promise of the land over in the Middle East. It's just God used that as a type and figure to represent the new creation. And we already checked out the word seed. Who is the seed? Is it the physical descendants of Abraham? No, it is in particular Jesus Christ, singular, counted for the seed, and then Jew and Gentile who are elect, those that are saved in him, that they receive the land, not the land over in the Middle East. Tell you the truth, I don't think I would want that land. I don't think I would want to go over there and inhabit that land. I don't want to inhabit any piece of land in all this world for an everlasting possession. No, thank you. With the hurricanes and tornadoes and earthquakes and plagues and thorns and thistles, and and despite and not to mention the least of it is I will die, you know, a long while before everlasting comes. And so the promises of God here are not focused on this world, not focused on the Middle East, not focused on physical Jews, but spiritual Jews and a spiritual earth that he's going to give his people.

SPEAKER_02 47:24

Jehovah delivered all their enemies into their hand. There failed not aught of any good thing which Jehovah had spoken unto the house of Israel. All came to pass.

SPEAKER_03 47:36

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 47:37

There's a lot of other verses too that that that uh complement that.

SPEAKER_05 47:42

Nehemiah 9. Nehemiah 9.

SPEAKER_01 47:46

They conveniently tend not to focus on that verse, and they will they will stretch to probably think, well, there's more. There's more, they'll tell you. And uh they'll they and that's the nate, that's our nature. That's our nature. We we want to uh have a heart of unbelief and we resist the truth and we don't seek spiritual things, and unfortunately, uh mankind will will seek out their own inventions. We do we do have a caller, and uh if you don't mind, let's go with uh you, Mandy. Please go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 48:21

I I had a question about um uh Galatians four, five um on the inheritance, and I it was something that came up in when you were talking, and I was wondering if you could go to that verse and then ask my question.

SPEAKER_05 48:36

Sure. Galatians 4, verse 1. Now I say uh I'm going to read uh a little bit of the passage. Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be Lord of all, but is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the Father, even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world. But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because you're sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father, wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son, and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

SPEAKER_00 49:35

I'm glad you read further about that. I didn't see that air down there. Um yeah, I was gonna ask you about adoption, if this is similar to the inheriting. Um, I just was what I was wondering because when I looked up that word, it it kind of showed me that it's a children or son or just adoption. If you could talk about that.

SPEAKER_05 49:53

Well, uh, yeah, it's it's um just indicating that um God has um taken people. We read in Revelation 7 concerning the great multitude from every people, tribe, and tongue. Uh it's it the Gentiles uh are uh from every nation in the world. And uh we're we're not um children of God in our in our sinful condition, you know, we we've been estranged, and and so the Lord uses the language of adoption, and really um he speaks very well of it, and it's a very honorable thing for people to adopt children. It's very biblical. God has adopted his people into the family of God, so that we're no longer servants, we're no longer um uh, you know, um someone outside the royal family, but we've been adopted into the royal family itself. Can you imagine um the the big ado that would go on if, like, say the royal family in England, if if they just for some reason adopted uh a couple of little children into the into the royal family and was raising them as royals, um, it would it would be amazing. Well, God has done that with us, with us. And uh we are true sons, but um it it it's um it wasn't always that way. Uh uh He He has brought us into His family, and now that we're children through adoption, but children, we qualify as heirs of God in Christ. And this fits in with Galatians 3 that was in the previous chapter uh that I read that neither Jew nor Greek, bon nor free, male nor female, ye're all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ, then are ye Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise. And here uh it's said that God has sent forth the spirit of his son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father, wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son. And if a son, then an heir of God through Christ. Through Christ. It's all centered on him. He is the inheritor, and we through him.

unknown 52:41

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 52:41

Yeah, and also and also many in uh Romans 8, verse uh 14 to 17, it's it's a kind of a parallel passage, for as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but ye have received the spirit of adoption, where whereby we cry, Abba Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit that we are the children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of God, and joint heirs with Christ, if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

SPEAKER_01 53:30

If I if I may one let me pause at this point, we're gonna say goodbye for today's Bible exalted episode for our radio listeners. However, we will continue this program for an additional half an hour, and we'll pick up um on the topic. So thank you. Good night, folks. Welcome back to the Bible Exalted program. This is our bonus half an hour. Tonight's topic is the inheritance. The inheritance. And we have our beloved speakers, Bob Grandy, Chris McCann, and Carl von Herenga. We have a caller who is uh discussing uh a good uh question with us, and and let's continue.

SPEAKER_05 54:12

Uh yeah, I just have another verse regarding adoption in Ephesians 1, where it says um that, well, verse 3 says that God has blessed us with all spiritual blessings, blessings in heavenly places in Christ, according as he has chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love, having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself according to the good pleasure of his will. So God's whole predestination election program is tied to adoption. And um that's that's a wonderful thing that um there is that possibility or was that possibility in the day of salvation.

SPEAKER_01 55:10

Thank you, Mandy.

SPEAKER_02 55:12

Yeah, I found uh I found a couple of those verses that talk about those uh Esau's that will not inherit the kingdom of God uh in Galatians five nineteen to twenty-one. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revilings, and such like, of the which I tell you before, as I have told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. And and also in uh first Corinthians fifteen, fifty. Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither does corruption inherit incorruption. Excellent point.

SPEAKER_05 56:20

First Corinthians six, uh, verse nine to eleven.

SPEAKER_02 56:26

I was gonna read that one too, I figured it was too long. Oh, he's taking up too much of the mic.

SPEAKER_05 56:33

This reminds me of the handfuls of purpose. You you left, remember the handfuls of purpose are left for someone coming along. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the kingdom of God. I think that covers everybody. That covers everybody. But keep going. Such were some of you, but you're washed, but you're sanctified, but you're justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. So um, unless we're washed, unless we're sanctified, justified in salvation, no inheritance of the kingdom of God. Uh there there is only inheritance in Christ. In Christ, you have to be in him. And his righteousness, not one's own righteousness, that's the only way to enter into the kingdom of God.

SPEAKER_04 57:51

You guys read you read the passage in Acts 7 that talks about um it would go back to what Chris was talking about in Genesis 15 about Abraham when he left Ur of the Chaldees, it says in seven verse three, and said unto him, Get thee out of thy country and from thy kindred, and come into the land which I shall show thee. Then came he out of the land of the Chaldeans and dwelt in Haran, and from thence when his father was dead, he removed him into this land wherein he now dwell, and he gave him none inheritance in it, no, not so much as to set his foot on, yet he promised that he would give it to him for possession and to his seed after him when as yet he had no child. So that just ties in with what we looked at earlier.

SPEAKER_01 58:37

Yeah, and and and good point, and also a false teaching is a false inheritance. It's it's a deceitful inheritance. And one of the stories I I used to like was Sennacherib, and I always wondered Sennacherib was uh quite chaotic. He he would have this uh, you know, uh come to me and and I'll I'll give you this if you submit, but I'm also gonna destroy you. But but come to me. And uh I'm gonna read just a few uh verses here and uh I'll start with verse thirteen. Then Rabshake stood and cried with a loud voice in the Jews' language and said, Hear ye the words of the great king what pride, the king of Assyria. Thus saith the king, let not Hezekiah deceive you, for he shall not be able to deliver you, neither let Hezekiah make you trust in Jehovah, saying, Jehovah will surely deliver us. This city shall not be delivered into the hand of the king of Assyria. Hearken not to Hezekiah, for thus saith the king of Assyria, make an agreement with me by a present, and come out to me, and eat ye every one of his vine and every one of his fig tree, and drink ye every one the waters of his own cistern, until I come and take you away to a land like your own land, a land of corn and wine, a land of bread and vineyards. Beware lest Hezekiah persuade you, saying, Jehovah will deliver us. And that always struck me that he tried to give a promise of a land, their own land, and and it just mo it just mocks the true gospel and for someone who doesn't have eyes to see, it's a false inheritance, and it's a great destruction if they were to give into that.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:34

Um yeah, I think this verse goes along with that. In Jeremiah 16, Jeremiah 16, um in verse 19, O Jehovah, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles or the nations shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall sh and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no prophet. Shall man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? So our fathers have inherited lies. And that is true of every secular person. That's true of every individual in a false religion, raised under a false religion. It's true of all the apostate churches and all the people brought up under apostate churches. The churches, they inherited confessions and creeds from centuries ago. And they have errors in the confessions and creeds, and they maintain them. They hold on to them, must be true, must be true. They're 400, 500 years old. And uh, you know, a great great deal of the world is inherited lies. Um, and it's it's only the true gospel that breaks that cycle as God comes to his people in all walks of life, and and he draws them by his word by the truth, and the truth sounds so strange. It's so odd, you know. Um people don't believe it. Like Jesus said, You do not believe me because I tell you the truth. If if someone um you know tells a tall tale, well, you'll get a lot more people to believe it than the actual truth. They look upon the truth as, oh boy, this this this guy is out there. It's like they never heard it before. And very, very possible they never heard the truth. They they have no recognition of the truth, like Pilate. What is truth?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:57

And uh so they say in Acts, they when Paul brought the truth, you know, these strange things unto us. I remember uh Gary, me and Gary went on a show and and we were talking about how God sets his word above his name, and they had never heard that before, so they all like gasped. They're all like, What? They couldn't believe that something that they heard.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:19

Yeah, not to mention that verse where you said where they put it forth strange uh gods. If if you look at that word, gods, it's the Greek word daemonion. So when they were critiquing Paul, the translators didn't use the word daemonion, they used the word gods, because I I guess the translators understood that they had no spiritual understanding. But they accused Saul of of speaking of strange demons, if you look at that word in that in that verse. You're talking about the one in Acts when when it yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:54

I thought it was the one that yeah, I was thinking of Martis Hill.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:56

Yeah, look at look at the Greek word. I looked at that word strange gods. It's the it's the Greek word daemonion. So so if you're if you're telling the true gospel, uh they're gonna they're gonna see it as evil. Not just not just strange gods. They're they're gonna count it as evil if if they're not truly uh saved and their eyes are not spiritually opened.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:18

Uh another another passage about not inheriting in Ephesians 5. But fornication, verse 3, and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not be once named among you as becometh saints, uh, neither filthiness nor foolish talking, nor jesting which are not convenient, but rather giving of thanks. For this ye know that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words, for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:05

I actually had a question for you, Chris. When you were reading the one in the verse in Psalms, I think it was Psalms uh 105, 42. No, 37 about the meek inherit.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:17

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:18

It talks about um where's it that talks about the land? What verse was that?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:23

Um that was um that was uh well the verses are 9, 11, 11 says inherit the earth, nine says inherit the earth, twenty-two, um says about the land inheriting the uh verse twenty two inherit the earth, verse twenty-nine, inherit the land, and verse thirty-four, inherit the land.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:50

Yeah. See, I was wondering about that. Of course, when I was younger, I used to I used to read that verse the meek shall inherit the earth, you know, the land. And you know, it kind of makes You think of this world, but you know, I thought about the verse in if you look at it from a natural perspective. But then I thought about the verse in Ezekiel. Remember, it talks about that God's gonna put his spirit within them and he's gonna place them in their own land. Yeah. I think you talked about that being New Jerusalem, right? They're coming out of Babylon, the spiritual land of Babylon, and they're going into the spiritual land of Jerusalem. So that is that what it's talking about?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:25

Well, uh it it that that's um it's kind of hard there in that passage, um, because you know, we we can go into the land spiritually. We have our citizenship in the heavenlies in Christ Jesus, so we're we're counted to be there, and it's a little difficult sometimes as God talking about the actual end of all things and going there. But uh yeah, I I'm not exactly sure what's in view in Ezekiel 37.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:01

But it also talks about in Daniel how the saints possess the kingdom too as while they're ruling, just as Christ is ruling on this earth. So I've wondered about that. But it so the meek inheriting the earth, that wouldn't be referring to that, right? Could that only be referring to the new heavens?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:21

Um yeah, I I I don't think I don't know, I never thought of that. Uh as far as you know, there is there's a verse in Psalm 2 where it's referring to Christ, but what's true of Christ would be true of the saints who are judging the world with him. It says in Psalm 2, uh, verse 6, yet have have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. Zion would be Jerusalem, the body of the elect. I will declare the decree. Jehovah has said unto me, Thou art my son, this day have I begotten thee. Uh going back to the foundation of the world and resurrection. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, that is to the Son of God, to the Lord Jesus, the nations for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron, thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. So it kind of um awkward, right? I'll give you first we might think the nations, the Gentiles, well, a great multitude, God did save, I'll give you the heathen for your inheritance, as Bob was saying, to begin with, were God's inheritance and uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession, but then in the next verse, thou shalt break them with a rod of iron. Well, well, who's them? Who's them? Um it would, you know, appear it's the heathen and the uttermost parts of the earth that are going to be broken. Uh, and yet they're given for an inheritance, and Christ is ruling the world. He he is king and lord over the world right now. Uh and and yet it's w his, it's up to him whatever he wants to do with it, and what he wants to do with it is destroy it.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:45

Well, I just thought of it because Daniel 22 mentions it three times, like, or sorry, Daniel 7, verse 22. It says, Unto the ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most high. So we know it's judgment day. And the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom. And then it mentions uh the saints again in verse 18. The saints of the most high shall take the kingdom. I think three times mentioned.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:14

Well, well, it is it is possessed, it is taken. Christ deposed Satan and and has taken the throne, ruling the earth, and the saints, the elect with him, you know, the Matthew 19, the Son of Man will sit upon the throne of his glory, and you will sit upon the twelve tribes, will sit upon twelve thrones. So there there is that aspect to it. Uh, that that's ruling, but what what did you what did what was your question? Is it or I was thinking about inheriting Yeah, inheriting the land, would that would would that be this temporary land, or would that just be because I said it was the meat shall inherit the earth, but but we know that there's well that because uh it in uh Psalm 37, it speaks of everlasting, right? That that's found in that chapter. It's found in that Psalm. Genesis 17, it speaks of everlasting possession. That isn't going to be destroyed, and and the meek will inherit the earth. Um uh, I I think would go along with that because land and earth, same Hebrew word. Um and but you're bringing up something else um that it it seems to be true of Christ in Psalm 2, that he receives the world, the Gentiles, uttermost parts of the earth, for inheritance, and uh he uh apparently will destroy them with a rod of iron. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:58

Yeah, go along with uh the with that verse in um Peter, let me see, where Christ uh he bought let's see, who privilege shall bring um there were in uh second Peter two yeah, Second Peter two verse one, but there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you who privileges damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. Is that is that who is gonna be uh in in Psalm two? Is that is that who the Lord is gonna dash in pieces?

SPEAKER_05 1:12:45

Well, well, um well there it it seems to be the whole all the nations, but uh it reminds us of the parable Matthew 13 with uh the treasure in the field and and the man buys the field in order to field is the world treasure like in Matthew 13 in verse 44. Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field, the field is the world. So there's treasure in the world, the treasure would be the elect, and and so um the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hidden a field, the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. So he he purchased the larger piece of land, the world. He purchases the world for the purpose of getting the treasure. And so that could uh help explain Psalm 2. After he gets the treasure out of the world, after God brings his elect to himself, he has no law and no further purpose for the field. He only bought the field to get the treasure, and uh that that was his desire, and so afterward destroy the world.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:24

And also the spoiling, right? Would that tie in? Because he's plundering Satan's kingdom, he's spoiling Satan's kingdom, you know, gathering of the gold and the silver, would that would that be having to do with the treasure?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:39

Well, yeah, uh the right. The uh Second Chronicles 20, they they gather the spoil uh amongst the dead, and and the strong man uh keeps his treasure until stronger than he comes along, and God uh it it it interesting in Revelation 18 when Babylon has fallen, Babylon the kingdom of Satan, that that it looks at the destruction of Babylon in uh in verse eight, therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death and mourning and famine, and she shall be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. And that's the same word um from Luke 11, 21, 22. A strong man keepeth his palace, but stronger than he shall come upon him. And and so here uh the kingdom of Babylon, strong uh king of Babylon, stronger than he is God, causes his kingdom to fall. And uh and so I I I think it does relate because where we find the house divided verses, it's always in the context of of um like like this statement about the um the man keeping his goods in his palace in Luke 11. Where uh notice what what leads up to that verse 17 but he knowing their thoughts said unto them, every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, a house divided against the house falleth. Brought to desolation ties this to the fall of Babylon, because the word brought to desolation, it's one Greek word, 2049, is found three times in Revelation concerning Babylon. It's only found, I believe, five times total, twice concerning the house divided, three times, twice in Revelation 18, concerning the fallen Babylon. So brought to desolation a house divided against the house falleth. If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? Because ye say that I cast out devils through Beazelbub, and if I by Beazabub cast out devils by whom do your sons cast them out, therefore shall they be your judges. But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God has come upon you. When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace, but when a stronger than he shall come upon him and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armor, wherein he trusted and divideth his spoils. So it's in Mark, it's in Matthew, and it's here, in that kind of order, house divided, kingdom divided, and a few within a few verses, the strong man. Uh you have to bind him to spoil the goods, and it seems to fit very well with um the idea in judgment day, um, there will be at least a manifestation of ransacking the house of Satan and taking the treasure, taking out the treasure.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:21

You mentioned too that this tied in with David, right, after he killed Goliath, who's a picture of Satan and about his armor.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:29

Yeah, um, I was I have a note here. Uh 1 Samuel 17, 50-54, he um spoiled their tents. He said, and and also the word he taketh from him all his armor wherein he trusts and divideth his spoils. 1 Samuel 17, 53, 54, David put armor in his tent and uh spoiled their tents.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:58

And and I noticed too, remember after David killed Goliath, they said David kills or Saul kills his thousands, but David is ten thousands. I thought that was interesting too, because if that's a picture of Christ, Goliath being killed is a picture of Satan. Now David is a he hasn't become king yet, right? But he's been exalted to uh that position of power. He's been made a free man. And and uh I just thought it was interesting that says David has killed his ten thousands, right? Because price.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:31

Well, no, that was coming back, wasn't it? That's when Saul started getting jealous. Right. And so he was eyeing David, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:40

They gave me but thousands.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:44

As if that wasn't enough.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:46

They gave me but thousands. Yeah, but that ten thousand, that number kind of stands out too. Yeah, because Jehovah cometh with ten thousands of his saints. So, you know, Saul is recognizing that he doesn't have the ten thousand.

unknown 1:20:00

You know?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:03

It's interesting how when when one is rejected, there's a lot of anger and hate. There's a there's a lot of the one when one realizes they are rejected, they immediately turn to the one who's been accepted and they want to kill them. They they want to treat them uh really evilly, I'm I'm noticing throughout their minds. Because if if Goliath is Satan, Satan's cast down on May 21, David is a picture of Christ, is Saul the church is how they You know, you know what's interesting, I was reading Saul said that he loved David very much in the beginning. So what kind of love is that, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:20:48

Well, in Revelation 2, God said, Return to your first love. Because the church had a love for Christ early on. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:58

Yeah. There's there's a interesting verse that there there may be many people out in the world might be asking this, and it's in uh Luke 18, 18, where we read it, uh, and a certain ruler asked him, asked her asked Jesus, saying, Good master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? Right? And probably a lot of people out there are asking the same question. And uh in uh the same passage is in uh Mark, Mark uh chapter 10 and in verse uh 17. Uh and when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running and kneeled to him and asked him, Good master, what shall I do that I may inherit an eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is that is God. And and thou knowest that he so Jesus tells him to go obey all the commandments, and uh the man says, Oh, I've done I've done this uh for since my youth. And and then it says in verse 21, then Jesus, beholding him, loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest, go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give it to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven, and come, take up the cross and follow me. And he and the next verse 22, and he was sad at that saying, and went grie went away grieved, for he had great possessions. And um I believe that word grieved is is uh he went away with godly sorrow, uh, which which means that he he and the fact that Jesus loved him uh indicates that that he did become saved, but it was not because of any anything that he did, it was because Jesus loved him. Uh, we love him because he first loved us.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:12

And in Matthew 19, it it says, um, when when uh Christ said it's it's easier, um what's that saying with the camel?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:25

Oh, it's 25. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:29

Yeah, it's also in Mark, yeah. It says, uh And they were rich men saying among themselves, who then can be saved? And Jesus looking upon them saith, with men it is impossible, but not with God, for with God all things are possible. But all things is referring to salvation. So it's impossible to inherit eternal life for man with uh other works, by doing you know, something that we you know, mankind, like the churches say you can accept Christ, uh all the things you can say the sinner's prayer or get baptized, but none of that ever saved anybody. Yeah. And there's probably millions out there across the world that, you know, like I said before, that that could ask this question, and uh maybe maybe they were saved, you know, maybe they were saved before God shut the door.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:29

Yeah. Of course that complicates things today, right? That it's not like any other time in past history. We're living in judgment day where God shut the door.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:43

Which which means he's not granting eternal life, he's he's no longer adopting people into his family, no longer saving, no longer giving them inheritance. It's all done. The only hope for people is maybe God has already saved them prior to his shutting the door May 21, 2011. And and that would be the only um way that that someone could think, well, maybe I can inherit eternal life. Well, it if you if you were outside the church and and you heard the word of God, even the littlest bit of the word of God prior to May 21, 2011, then there would be a possibility that maybe God saved you. And that would be the way to approach him.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:46

Yeah, if they saw a b if they saw a billboard, so that said judgment day. Yeah. And judgment day is the word of God.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:56

I guess it's also equally scary if somebody today was seeking salvation, you know, at a time when you know they're looking for the straight gate and and just seeing all the turmoil at the rich man in hell, you know, just asking for a drop, drop of salvation.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:17

It doesn't take much for God to save someone as long as it's in the right setting and during the time of salvation with the right timing. It doesn't take much.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:28

Yeah, it it didn't it didn't take much. After all the work was done.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:37

I I find myself writing, um, you know, when I'm responding to somebody, I'll use past tense. I don't think anyone ever picks up on it on these storms or threads, but I'll I'll say something like, you know, when God was saving, or I'll use past tense, you know. And I I'm just surprised nobody's ever said, what do you mean? You know, why are you using past tense?

SPEAKER_05 1:26:58

I probably think uh you you need a little help with English grammar. But but you're being uh you're being careful and and you're stating it correctly.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:14

Yeah and and we do look forward uh to receiving the inheritance and and if if I understand correctly, that in our bodies. Right? We're we're looking for that redemption and that completion. Did did we read 1 Corinthians 15 about the uh the new the inheritance of the body?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:37

I think you briefly mentioned it, but I don't think we ever talked about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:40

Last there was I think last time, maybe we we talked about it a lot, but not today.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:45

Um 1 Corinthians 15, verse 47. The first man is of the earth earthy, the second man is the Lord from heaven, as is the earthy. Such are they also that are earthy, and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly, and as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. So oh, you did read that.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:24

Maybe I yeah, at the beginning.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:32

What chance has any person? Well, um, the reason it says that is because in verse uh 44, it is sown a natural body, it is raised the spiritual body, there is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. So when God uh resurrects on the last day, when He when He brings us up, all that are truly saved, they're changed, their physical flesh and blood bodies changed to a spiritual body that qualifies to enter into the spiritual kingdom of God. Flesh and blood is a physical body that's fitted for a physical earth. And you know, so many people have in mind they they picture themselves in in heaven forevermore. It's just going to be the the same, basically, maybe a new and improved version of themselves, a new and improved physical body, but that's not it. It's a spiritual body that uh that has to it's how you pass through the gate. You you there there's like a sensor goes off flesh and blood. No, you can't get through, can't get through. And that starts or started with a new soul, a new spirit, uh the down payment, that earnest of the spirit, the down payment on the overall salvation, which will include the body. If you don't have by now, you you need the earnest of the spirit, the down payment of the spirit in order to get the rest. If you lack at this point the spirit within, the the Holy Spirit, and that only would come if if God saved you, then um there will be no inheritance because flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:49

So you're saying there's a censor now that that that it's not it's not uh Peter that uh it's mocking the king?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:57

Well, that that that needs a little updating. It's the eyes, it's the eyes of Jehovah that inspects everyone at the marriage feast who has a wedding garment. Yeah, there you go. And the the the glaring eyes of God will be upon those who who don't have a wedding garment are speechless. Speechless. And that and they know that's interesting. They're speechless because they don't have a word. They don't have a word of God to re to return uh back because they don't have the word of God in their heart. They're speechless, they have nothing to say.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:32

So that that would be those who appear to have been following the truth.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:37

They had salvation. So during the separating, you know. They came a long way, right into the marriage feast.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:45

They they weren't the ones burned up in the city. You know? Um, those who rejected the the that would be the church. They came out of the church. That this this guy would have been among the highways and the byways.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:59

You know, that verse makes so much more sense because I remember, you know, prior to May 21 looking at that and thinking, like, how did this guy get in? You know, if this is supposed to be, you know, when God has gathered all of his elect, how did this person get in? But now, of course, it makes perfect sense because it's talking about this time.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:16

And interestingly, he was bound hand in foot. Yeah. And cast into outer darkness. That's right. Yeah. He didn't say the flaming fires of torment. God he's specifically using outer darkness, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:34

I heard uh somebody who was not I think he believed in eternal hell, but somebody had asked him about that. And uh it was the guy who was interviewing um waiting, it was all mentioned names, but he was saying, you know, the universe is like outer darkness, and then you know, where the flame is the fire is unquenched. So he realized that it didn't really make sense, those two verses, because how could hell be an eternal place of suffering, but then also be outer darkness? How can it be a fire?

SPEAKER_01 1:33:02

And incidentally, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God because if one tries to pay for their sins with their body, well, you're not gonna make it because you just gave up your body, your life. You've extinguished your life. You can't make it on the other side because you're you're paying for your own sin. And so therefore, you you don't have anything left over after you've given everything you own, which is your very life, for for redemption. And that's why when someone pays for their sins, it's an accepted sacrifice, life for life. And that's it. It's uh the payment is made. You're we're done. We're done.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:44

Well, that's what's happening now during judgment day, right? Everybody that's not uh uh their names were not written in the Lamb's book of life. They're they're paying for their sins right now, whether they know it or not.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:58

It was a beautiful day, and I was like, wow, you know, this, you know, it's we're living in hell. And just shows the the kindness of God, you know, the mercy of God. Even in in this flame, in the state of hell, you know, God's mercy is is being dis on display.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:14

Yeah, I was um I was on there's a social media platform called Threads, and I don't know if I screenshotted it, but somebody was um they were saying how it didn't make sense how God paid for everyone's sins. You know, he covered the debt. So this person was questioning, you know, what why would God pay for everyone's sins, but then not allow them to get to heaven if the debt's paid. It doesn't make sense to me. You know, don't just start giving me a bunch of random verses. You know, I want you to explain that.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:43

And then people might so I responded to it, but it it somebody realized that it doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:49

Seems more good observation.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:52

Yeah, yeah, that's what I was going to say. More and more people uh realizing the various truths, and yet they they don't get the whole picture, but but they'll they'll get this point and that point. But we I don't remember hearing that in the past. You know, like someone talking about an angel of light who's of public figure or or uh you know these other things.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:19

It's very interesting, Chris. Very interesting. It seems as if uh people are are trying to seek truth and almost it's almost like they're circling around it. They don't hit it, but they're they're circling around it, and they're like, man, just a little a few more points, he would almost be there, you know?

SPEAKER_04 1:35:40

I I found the person's comment. She she writes, To me, Jesus dying the way he did makes zero sense. If he died for our sins, however, our sins can still get us sent to hell, then why did he have to die at all if the debt was paid? Why do we still get a penalty for sinning? Please don't give me mumbo jumbo from scriptures. I'm asking from a critical thinking standpoint. Make it make sense in your words.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:03

The church says, well, it's it's up to you. You gotta accept it. You gotta plug your outlet into the the wall and get that energy. You gotta sign the check. You gotta sign the check, you gotta seal the deal. Endorse it. You gotta endorse the check. It's already made out to you.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:21

And this is somebody defending it. I actually get why that doesn't make sense at first. You're not crazy for seeing it that way. The confusion usually comes from thinking Jesus died, so nobody gets judged anymore, but that's not what Christians mean when they say he paid for sin. A better way to think about this is imagine someone racks up a massive life-ruining debt they could never repay. Someone else steps in and says, I'll cover this. The debt is generally paid, but that person's thus accepted. Out of that at the end.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:51

That's that, you know, when you we were just talking about this, Carl, when we're at a restaurant and we were saying, we were joking amongst ourselves, if a very wealthy person covers our meal, we'll be like, sure, go right ahead. But but in this context, this person is saying that if someone covers your meal, you have to accept it. Many, many times somebody will pay and it's too late. And it can be very displeasing because you wanted to take part in it, and the person will tell you it's already done. And you you do feel a bit helpless. So that analogy doesn't seem to ring true in real life, even on that level. It's contradictory.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:30

It's like nature. Yeah. But yeah, I wonder if two people are just questioning what they believe because they're questioning a lot of things. They're questioning what governments have told them, what scientists have told them. And so I'm not surprised that you see Christians questioning what they're what they're taught, you know. So I think it's maybe the same type of thing, you know. Is this really the case, you know? Which makes me wonder if they'll also question free will, you know, start to wonder, you know. So I guess we'll see.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:00

What an interesting and maybe perhaps, Lord willing, as time progresses, we can discuss this matter because perhaps the work of Satan has been greatly um troubled, like when the disciples were toiling and could not get anywhere when they were in the waters. Maybe Satan's work has been greatly troubled, and so perhaps during this time of judgment, mankind is not so greatly clouded as they used to be with the um the deceit of Satan. And so maybe perhaps some of those um you know, stumblings are are not as often, and so maybe they can grab a little more than they used to. Perhaps.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:40

I think it uh unfortunately goes back to now it's too late.

unknown 1:38:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:47

You know, like with uh Israel coming out of Egypt, sending the spies, and the spies coming back with their evil report, and everyone's murmuring, and well, practically everyone and they want to go back to Egypt, and so God uh judges them. Now you're going to wonder 40 years, a year for a day, and once they realize they're judged, then they they want to do what God wanted them to do in the first place, which was go take the land, we'll go up. And and but at that point that became rebellion. So once the door shut, now um, if you look at it from, say, the enemy's perspective, Satan, that where he was trying to prevent people from being saved in order to thwart the plan of God. Well, now the plan of God's carried out, and is it all that important if, you know, um from the the evil one's perspective, he was stirring up people to just have nothing to do with election, nothing to do with understanding the angel of light. You know, you don't want to know that that that you know pastor in the church is what 2 Corinthians 11 is talking about. Well, now he um he he doesn't have that motivation, and also Christ is the one in charge in full in full complete control over the church, over the world, and allowing people to come to a um a better understanding of various doctrines won't change anything. It's not going to cause someone to be translated. Well, now I understand, now I believe, now I believe the true gospel of election won't save anybody. If they're not saved, belief of that won't belief of any truth won't save them.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:03

It really goes back to that whole idea that during the Great Tribulation, when the deception was so great, only God's elect could see through that deception, but it was so great that if it were possible, even the elect would be deceived. But now I'm starting to wonder, because Satan's been cast down, remember at the cross that says he was bound so that he should deceive the nations no more until the thousand years were expired. So I was thinking about if he was if he was rebound on May 21, perhaps to that binding limited his deception. So pr maybe that's why now they're they're seen, you know, because that the deception that was there during the Great Tribulation was placed upon the world where like like you said, nobody even talked about these things, but now they're you know, they're talking about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:50

I think we have to remember that there's also many at least I believe there's many tens of millions of people out there that I think that social media is gonna reach them. And we're we're we're trying to feed the sheep, feed those people. And uh the fact that uh the you know it it really can't be blocked. This this uh the true teaching of the Bible is out, it's getting out there via social media. I mean yeah, before the churches had total control over everything, or the news media, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:26

Or the new news media, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:28

So I mean, yeah, there that's that's interesting. There's gonna be a lot of people that it's too late for, but there's on the other hand, there's also gonna be a lot of people that um are that were saved during the Great Tribulation, and they're gonna start seeing it too.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:44

So so it's kind of preparing for that, preparing the way for that.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:47

Yeah, and and and it's gonna be I I mean, I think I think some of us uh believe that what as we get closer to 2033, we'll start to see it. Maybe uh uh you know the sheep start, you know, understanding and getting it and uh realizing that they were saved. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:12

That would that would be incredible. That would be incredible if that were the case. Or or at least they'll they would show some desire to learn the truth. Perhaps you know they may not be strong in the faith, but they would have an ongoing desire to seek the truth. And and ultimately, um, they're not gonna want to hear false teaching. They're gonna be very uncomfortable to hear the same old uh lies of of the past.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:39

I think it'd be hard if if many people started to be drawn, you know, and for them to hide that, to hide that. You know, you'd have tur turmoil families, right? Just think about how the truth divides, and you know, I would I would think it would if if a whole bunch of people started to become drawn to the truth, that would have a pretty big effect, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:01

And and lastly, I I was watching, I was down the rabbit hole, I was watching some old May 21 videos, and this one man, he was literally on the roof of his house, and he said, Well, it's six o'clock, it's May 21, 2011, we're still here. And you could tell he was not mocking. He he really was thinking that that could have been it. And so there's many people who were watching that day, and slowly but surely, as they see all the turmoil in the world and they're seeking the truth from the Bible, you know, maybe simultaneously they'll start to uh awaken. Maybe that's the real woke that we hear about.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:41

Well, there there is also going to be a lot of um uh discussion about 2029 and 2033 because um a lot of Christians and a lot even secular um uh authorities date the cross at 33 AD. And everybody can say it's 2,000 years. And with what everything that's going on in the world, uh someone was sharing with me on Facebook, they sent me this thing. I think it was like Catholic Church related, but it but it was talking about the celebration of exactly 2,000 years of Christ on the cross and the Jubilee in 2033. Uh and uh I don't know if you guys remember Y2K back in the year 2000.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:38

That was uh a little crazy, you know, the way people were worried about that. And that's nothing. That's nothing to to I mean, look at it how the world's changed, and everyone's like on eggshells concerning Israel and World War III and nuclear weapons and worldwide viruses, all uh everything's falling apart. And and here we're approaching two big dates that uh uh a lot of lot of people are going to be talking about them. And here is e-Bible Fellowship, you know, going on for years now, continuing just to say what we know, and it would make it much more um uh uh uh uh you know uh receivable. Is that a word? It would make it more easily received by people if they're seeing this everywhere. They're they're seeing this everywhere, and biblical evidence for the end, 2033. Um so uh I I think the Lord is definitely, of course, preparing things, but maybe in a way we haven't we haven't ever seen before concerning these years to come.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:05

Because what are people mentioning about 29 that that you know, I mean, we we know about it, but yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:12

Um I can't I my memory is so bad, but there there was uh individual You keep saying that, but it's not the way the way you remember things in the Bible, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, there was there was a guy, he was just bringing something up, and he made reference to to something where some people were talking about 2029. And at least you know, people are talking about 2026, 2028, but when you mentioned 2029, now you're in the area of Christ's first coming or the ministry of Christ.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:54

People know that. People know that the 15th year of uh Tiberius from 14, right? He began to reign, and the 15th uh was when John the Baptist baptized in the 29th year.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:10

You know why they I even hook heard like um not a Muslim, but somebody I I don't remember who, but they they followed the Jewish calendar and ushers, and and according to their calendar, every 2,000 years is a unique event, like from creation to the flood, from the flood to Christ, and then from Christ.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:29

So they they the wrong time path.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:32

The wrong time path, but they're they're wrong, they're right for the wrong reason, right? So they they go 2,000 years too from the cross, you know, and they yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:43

I don't want to be presumptuous, but what about our dear former friends? Our dear former friends who who um who labored with us, and they're seeing the world upside down, you know. I would be so curious to say, what are you seeing in the Bible right now? Because I think it's to the point where I would almost feel embarrassed or ashamed because some of these folks have have fought against these teachings. Now you're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. Because if you if you agree, you have a faithful ministry, if you disagree, you're basically saying it's not raining. And it's it's it's hard. It's really hard.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:23

I think I think a lot of them are probably watching. You know, they're probably I mean, I don't know who knows, they might just check in every now and then, but but you're right. Um, if the world's seeing how crazy it is, and and they're then people who have um still understanding, you know, they remember probably some of the information. They might even still have the books, right? Mr. Camping's books. And and uh here it here it is, and and look where we're approaching. So uh and I don't know if they're really in a rock and a heart, they might feel that way, but it's a matter of really being between um pride and humility, right? The someone's pride might keep them. Well, you know, I I can't I can't go back to these guys now after so long. Wow. And and yet uh you know, uh look at the prodigal and and who of us is any better or different? We we have offended, we have transgressed, we are guilty of a great many things, or I'll speak from I'm guilty of a great many things. And and you know, it's the whole nature of the gospel, right? Turn, turn, repent. Repent means uh when you look at the two words in the Greek, think again, consider again. Okay, you you went off, and who knows where you've been? Nobody's even gonna ask you. I'm not gonna ask. Any of you guys are going to ask? Uh I won't ask anyone. I'll I'll just be very happy to see you. Right. Very happy to see you if someone were to come back. Um, yeah, God reaches us that. Did the father go to the son? And not that we're the father, but but just the idea of how God receives those who have gone away. Did the father, when when he saw the son and he went running to him? Now, what have you been doing? What have you didn't I tell you it wasn't that at all? It was bring the the the robe, the best robe, and slay the fatted calf, and and let's let's celebrate because this my son was dead and now is alive. So um it just might be something built up in a person's mind. And it it could, of course, you know, be related to to uh pride. And um and the thing to do is, well, you know, uh go you know, you don't even have to come back to e-bible fellowship. Go to God. Go to God. We don't have to see you. Go to God, go, go to the truth of the Bible, and just just uh return to the truth, and God will work it out, He'll take it from there.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:43

Yeah, that prodigal son passage is pretty encouraging. I I never thought to look at that in light of judgment day, but it makes sense that that it's uh because if it's their father's house, they have to be within the kingdom.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:56

And they're they're eating they're eating the husks right now, you know, they're probably sitting in the pews and they're hearing some, you know, really awful, awful no no truth, no teaching. Well, and they're probably thinking, man, that other faithful ministry, they're getting bred to the full. But again, you know, we as Chris stated, they they don't have to come back just for our pride sake or just to see them with our eyes. That's that's that's meaningless. But we do miss you, uh, some of our dear friends who may be watching this program.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:30

One wonderful thing is um someone can watch at home, right? Yeah, we we won't see. They could be, or they can even call or or join on YouTube chat anonymously. You you can participate, and nobody would know who you were.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:47

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:50

Well, uh, I really enjoyed this this uh this discussion of inheritance. You're watching the Bible Exalted. What a pleasure it is to be with all you like-minded friends that the Lord has kept us uh since since May 21, 2011. I love this program. And and once again, folks, if you if we haven't seen you in a while, again, like Chris said, you we don't have to see you, but it is uh a wonderful thing to be in God's word. Wonderful thing to be in God's word. And to celebrate uh the time that we're living in, even though it's a horrible time, hell on earth. We can have programs like this where we can feed on God's word and be sustained and nourished during this time of judgment. So until next time, friends, uh may the Lord keep you during this time of judgment. Good night. You've just heard a pre recording of an e Bible Fellowship panel discussion.