A Fiercer Delight with Matt Gordon
The world can feel heavy, full of pain that outpaces our joy. A Fiercer Delight is Matt Gordon’s search for something brighter - conversations with coworkers, business leaders, neighbors, and friends who are chasing goodness, truth, and wisdom in their real, messy lives.
Each episode explores the human experience - failures, turning points, small delights, and big transformations - to uncover how we might live with more light, more hope, and more joy. Starting with local voices and expanding nationally, A Fiercer Delight invites you to sit in on candid, thoughtful, sometimes funny talks that just might leave you inspired to find a fiercer delight of your own.
A Fiercer Delight with Matt Gordon
Zach Mast: People, Faith, and the Joy of Getting a Second Story
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Matt runs into our old friend Zach Mast at a coffee shop and turns it into an unplanned episode. The result is a funny, surprisingly honest conversation about where joy actually comes from when you are wired for connection.
Zach shares why being around people is his fuel, and why isolation can mess with him fast. They talk about the double edge of that wiring. Zach opens up about how faith gives him a reset point so he can stop spiraling, re-center, and show up well for his family instead of demanding that they keep him okay.
The conversation also goes personal. Zach reflects on a first marriage that ended, co-parenting well, and then building a new marriage and family he never expected. He talks about becoming a young dad at 25, then an “older dad” again with a six-year-old daughter, and what it is like watching a 20-year-old son and a little sister adore each other even with almost nothing in common.
Along the way there are lighter joys too: mowing the lawn, concerts with his wife, music rabbit trails (Zach Bryan, Grateful Dead, Billy Strings, and more), and sports fandom as a safe place to vent. Underneath all of it is a simple theme, delight grows when you stop outsourcing your stability to other people and learn how to stay grounded, then love people well.
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