Twin Flames and the Karma of Love

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In this teaching, Saint Germain explores the nature of twin flames, explaining how souls recognize their divine counterpart and how unresolved karma can sometimes complicate even the deepest spiritual connections. He emphasizes that personal spiritual growth, rather than searching outside oneself, is the key to preparing for any sacred relationship. 

The conversation then turns toward practical spirituality: building discipline, creating lasting habits, and cultivating constancy in meditation and spiritual practice. Saint Germain encourages listeners to take small daily steps rather than seeking dramatic transformation, reminding us that mastery is built through consistent effort over time. 

A central theme of the evening is abundance consciousness. Through stories of answered prayers, unexpected opportunities, and personal breakthroughs, listeners are invited to move beyond fear, scarcity, and judgment. Saint Germain teaches that gratitude, trust, and alignment with one's Higher Self create the conditions for greater flow, opportunity, and fulfillment. Even life's challenges become gateways for growth when approached with gratitude and a willingness to learn the lesson hidden within them.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:48

To lift you into the golden age of Aquarius. Come climb the golden spiral staircase to higher consciousness. The mighty I am.

SPEAKER_07 1:05

Beloved Saint Germain and all our friends of light. It's Thursday. And here we are. We've all gathered to hear what you have to say. We are so grateful that you have come every bi-monthly. It's really such a gift to have you come and speak with us. So here we are. Please be patient with me tonight because I am solo on a computer by myself, Saint Germain. So if I screw up, I'm terribly sorry. But I will do my best. I love you so much. And to spend time with you like this is really, really incredible. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening, my friends. I am so thrilled to be with you again. And this messenger, as you heard her say, she's not used to doing it like this. So bear with us both. Because I really want to be with you tonight. I brought with me my beloved. We both wanted to share our presence with you this evening. So I want to open it up to if anyone has any questions before I start to speak out what I want to speak with you about tonight. Please.

SPEAKER_08 2:36

How do we know if we've ever met our twin flame? Or what do we know? Or could you confirm?

SPEAKER_07 2:46

Yes, I'm like, can you confirm? That is really an important question. And the reason for it being is because your twin flame literally being your other half, her energy field is the exact same as yours. Or if you're a male, yours is the same as hers'. They're the same. When you leave this planet, your bodies go back together to being one, and it's like a nuclear bomb going off. That explosion of love is so intense. That's how it's experienced. So on this planet, people are wanting to know. I want to meet my soulmate, I want to meet my other half. I feel so alone. I want to be with that person because your soul is striving to become one with your beloved again. When I was in embodiment, my beloved never took a physical body. So I look to others to be a soulmate to me, to be a companion to me, to be the one who can fill in what my beloved would have been if she would have been in a physical body. So she and I connected, she was in the heaven world, but I was by myself. So even as Francis Bacon, if you read any of my works, I have written about Portia because when she was in the other side, while I was in my final embodiment, we started to have that process of the joining. The first thing I'm going to say is you will instantly know if you are of a higher consciousness, and this group is, you will meet that one and your heart will sink, and you will feel towards them unlike anyone else you've ever met. It's like you feel complete, it's like you have finally found what you've been looking for. When twin flames meet, if one is of a denser consciousness, that one may not recognize the twin flame. They might think, oh, they're a really nice person. But they wouldn't necessarily go, Oh, you're the one I've been looking for. You don't even need to be told. I've been asked a few times to confirm or to naysay. And the ones who I've shared, yes, that has been your twin flame, they already knew. But this planet, the mind plays tricks on you, and the mind will say, Oh, it can't be. Oh no, it's not possible for me. The first thing I'm going to say is, you it's an instant recognition. There is something that is so unique and so special about this person. Your heart just expands because you're finally with your other path. If both are very, very dense in consciousness, they would feel this, oh, there's something really special about this person. But they wouldn't necessarily have that same feeling of, oh my gosh, admit my other path. It's more like, wow, they're really nice. So there's still something that draws them to them, but they wouldn't necessarily recognize it as oh, this is my other path. There is usually an instant recognition that there's some level of consciousness, and you just want to spend your time with that person. You just want to be around them. They make you feel full and expanded. In Natalie's case, Natalie, do you mind if I share?

SPEAKER_05 6:50

Never. My life is an open book, same to me. If you need to use me as an example, feel free. Everyone pretty much knows anyways.

SPEAKER_07 6:57

When Natalie met her twin flame, her third eye opened and she started seeing things. So being with her twin flame, because that love, you think of love and it melts your heart. Oh, I love this person. When you meet your twin flames, that passion is so intense, it can actually raise your vibration even higher. And in that case, she actually started to see things through her third eye, this chakra here. And things were happening that she questioned, I don't understand. Why is this happening with this person? It only happens with this person. It's because he raised her vibration up higher, because that instantaneous recognition of love automatically can raise you into a higher level of love. Because you've literally met your other half. So not everyone has happened to them what happens with Natalie, like what happened with Natalie, but it's it is that recognition, it is that inner knowing that I have really met the one that I've been seeking. Now, the sad part about twin flames on the planet is, as this messenger said, you've had more than one lifetime on this planet. And if you don't believe in past lives, keep your thoughts open, just food for thought. There's another way you can view it, but you've been on this planet a long time. Some of them view much longer than others. So when you came here and you were all excited to come here, like, oh, I get to do it, I'm here to fulfill. And then this planet started to get lower in consciousness. The vibrations started to drop. People weren't thinking loving kindness any longer. And they started to yell at their twin flame. Or maybe they went out on a date with a different person and not put that same love and attention towards their twin flame. And then the one feels rejected because their twin flame has set them aside for this other person. And then the hurts and the jealousies lower vibration. So if you didn't clear this up, you could have a lot of animosity between you and your twin flame. So there's that first initial, oh my goodness, my beloved, and then karma hits. What's happened in other lifetimes? And then suddenly the beloved is the one you hate. So what's happened on this planet is sometimes twin flames they'll meet, they want to be together, and then all the karma comes up, the negative karma that they they're there to clean up with each other. But when the momentum of oh my god, I can't believe you just rejected me kicks in, then it can activate both of them being in a lower vibration. So you've got to clean this up. So the one that you are so cherishing and so excited to meet, you could suddenly go, What happened? I don't even think we're the twin flames. I think we're of a totally different evolution, completely. We're nothing like each other. And your soul actually knows, yes, we are, we're twin flames, and we've got some karma that needs to get cleaned up. And that just like any momentum on this planet, if you have murdered somebody in a past life, you have to make you have to make amends by bringing life. So you might have them come in as your child, and your child is suddenly went from this little angel when they were born to the little terror, suddenly. And this could be your twin flame, and you're like, How did I deserve to get this child? So you're not operating from your higher self, and they're not operating from the higher self, and instead of cleaning up the karma, you're creating more. So then you try another lifetime. The twin flames have actually met, fell in love because it's that instant recognition, and then they often sometimes have even gotten divorced because the momentum of what's happened in other lifetimes was so strong it took over, and they said, We can't be married. I can't do this anymore. But what usually happens is they'll stay as business partners or they'll stay as friends, they'll stay in each other's lives, but that intensity of the love of what you were bringing to this planet may not be there if you've got negative karma between you and your twin flame. Now that's a lot of information I've just given. Does anyone have any questions on that? Ben, did this answer your question?

SPEAKER_08 11:49

Oh, yeah, I love your explanation. Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 11:59

When is it after like um periods of separation like that? They happen kind of ebb and flow, they're cleaning up karma, and as it seems to be with translations you crash into each other and then you fall out of each other's light, and it's sort of this ebb and flow as usually the dead everyone is cleaning up karma and ascending as both of us are. But will they have a aha moment, sort of as the awakened twin does at some point, or does that like never come for the dead circuit?

SPEAKER_07 12:40

Well every twin flame couple is different, they have different karma, different things that they've gone through in other times. So there's no one answer if you want to know about you specifically.

SPEAKER_05 12:57

I mean, if you're gonna tell me sometimes this is a dangerous hole to go down, but I'll take it full of a minute.

SPEAKER_07 13:04

So Natalie, as I mentioned, has met her twin flame. It activated things within her that she was waiting to get activated, brought her into a higher consciousness that she's never dipped below. Not saying that she hasn't had her disappointments and things that she's going through because the karma comes up, it comes up. But the level that she reached when she met her twin flame, because remember, that love is so passionate, is what love stories are written about. Romeo and Juliet, when I was Francis Bacon, I was actually the one who was the author of the Shakespearean plays. So I wrote about a twin flame love with Romeo and Juliet. Today people still love that story. People love twin flame stories because it brings back to us our love of our twin flame and the looking for it. But Natalie's twin flame is one of those that I mentioned that is a lower vibration. He's a lovely man, he's an absolute lovely man, but he's not at the same level of attainment or same level of vibration as Natalie. So they're not together right now. Can this be hard? Yes, it can be. He's working out his karma right now, so as he's working it out, a lot of it is truly going to depend on how he cleans up his karma. If he does it, if he buckles down and says, I'm going to get through this, I'm going to make every effort to do the best that's and the best that I can in the situation that I'm in, and he takes that high road, he could when it's the karma ends, he could turn out and look at Natalie and say, Wow, why didn't I see you like this before? Or he may remember, oh, she was a lovely friend, and reconnect with her that way and let the buildup happen. So it could go either way with Natalie's twin flame, or he could buckle down and say, dig in his heels and say, I'm not gonna go through this and go really rebellious, build up that karma even more instead of breaking it down and getting rid of it. And he may not see Natalie in the same way, so it really Natalie is going to depend on how someone cleans up their karma. Do it kicking and screaming, they might just say, I'm gonna take a mature look at this, I'm gonna come from this from the a higher consciousness and really do my best. Free will, remember, folks, this is a free will planet. You get to do with the energy that's pouring into you from your I am presence. You get to do with it what you wish. And even though you're the one that has to clean up your electronic belts, those old momentums can take over and become very difficult to overcome. So there's not one answer of one size fits all. It's very unique to each individual situation.

SPEAKER_05 16:23

With all that being said, how can you be sure that sometimes you're twin flame if the connection isn't being made?

SPEAKER_07 16:30

One of the things that will happen is it's almost like when you meet that person, you're so overcome with wow, that you can actually feel yourself step out of time and space. Like the world dropped away from around you. Like I'm not in this room, I'm just in some place with this beautiful being in front of me, and it's so intense that your heart knows. It's the mind that will step in and say, Ah, I don't know if that's my twin flame or not. The reality is it doesn't matter. Because if you're not with somebody, you fall in love with somebody, and they're not your twin flame, all the love that you're giving to that person is going automatically to your twin flame. But I do understand you want to meet your other half. Your heart would tell you you have a high enough consciousness. If you met your twin flame, your heart would so expand, you'd feel like you just grew bigger than the room. And your heart would tell you, oh my goodness, this is my other half. So it's that inner knowing. Now, I've had people, as I mentioned, have come to me and said, Can you tell me if this is my I'm with my twin flame? Because their monkey mind was getting in the way, so they couldn't, they were so torn between the head and the heart, they couldn't just allow themselves to trust their heart. So when often is, as I mentioned, all the love you give to someone, it could be a flower, it could be a child, it could be a cat, beloved pet, and be another person. Anytime you send love out, your twin flame feels it. So if you stay in love, whether you're with them or not, they will get your love. Just like if they love someone or something or a plant, it all goes to you as the twin flame. You receive it as well. You can actually say prayers for your twin flame. If you're not together because your twin flame has karma, you can say prayers for that to get balanced and to send your love and your willingness to help them out of their situation. You can actually send prayers to them to cut them free from that karma so that they can come up higher in consciousness.

SPEAKER_03 19:18

Question: Do you have advice for seeking from within instead of without as far as validation and also as far as like bad habits or good habits?

SPEAKER_07 19:28

When do you think you've met your twin flame? First, you have to really go to your heart. The minute you start trying to analyze it, I can guarantee you your mind will get in the way every single time. Ask Natalie because the brain, even though it knows your heart is looking for your other half, the brain is gonna kick in and try to tell you, nah, that can't be. Then there's a war that's going on inside of you. The most important thing, I want everyone to hear this. The most important thing that you can do is keep yourself raising your consciousness. The higher you raise your consciousness, the more it's going to help your twin flame. And if they are of a lower vibration, especially if you do prayers for them, you coming up higher in vibration, they're automatically going to be getting that extra assistance. Like I was mentioning, my beloved, she was on the other side. She was in the heaven world or over earth, and we were starting to merge, but because she was already on the other side, she could pull up my consciousness to a much greater level than if she was in a physical body with me. Some twin flames are on the other side, they've already graduated, or like with my beloved Portia, they never came to this planet. That was rather rare, but it does happen. So you might find my twin flame isn't here with me because they never took a body. The most important thing is you work on yourself, you clean yourself up as much as possible, because the cleaner you are when you meet your twin flame, if you've got karma between the two of you, you're going to find it much, much easier to clean up the karma. If you've already been working on yourself and now you've encountered your twin flame, you'll be able to take greater command of the situation if you do have karma to clean up with your twin flame. But it's always, always, always, always helpful for you to clean up yourself. Because it automatically goes to your twin flame anyway. Does that answer your question? What else do you want to know?

SPEAKER_03 21:52

Um, I guess I'm thinking more specifically about like when I feel frustrated and I'm like Have this choice between like doing something that I know will help me versus like it's something that seems easier, like staring at my phone when I really know I should meditate or read, and how I can like make the higher choice. Well, first you have to want it.

SPEAKER_07 22:17

You have to determine I want to be who I really am. I want to do the work that will keep me connected to my I am presence at all times. Because you don't have that desire, you are going to find it much, much more difficult for you to then say, I want to do my prayer work today, or I'm going to do my yoga or a Tai Chi or I'm going to walk in nature. You're going to find every excuse on the planet to not do that. So you have to want it. That is probably the most important aspect. Because if you want it, if you want it so much, that will help carry you through those bumps in the road that say, well, today I don't really want to do my yoga. I don't really want to spend my time in meditation. Then tomorrow comes, oh, I'm real busy after this. You have to want it. And my beloveds, you have been on this planet for so long. You have done every single thing under the sun that there is to do. I am telling you, you've done it more than once. Every single thing, every aspect from the villain to the innocent one. You have done everything in between. So when you're looking at, well, do I really want to be who I really am? But you've got a momentum that it doesn't matter, that will take over. So you have to determine within yourself, I only want to be who I really am. I want to be the God or goddess that I was created to be. And right now, I can feel my this tub saying, you know, don't bother, not today, next week. And you have to have a strong enough discipline and a strong enough desire to say, no, I don't feel like it. But you know what? I'll do it for five minutes. So chunk it out into smaller pieces, too. If you know I've got a momentum that could kick in and stop it, just say, okay, I'm gonna do it for five minutes. You might find five minutes go by and then you'll say, you know what, it's okay. I'm gonna do it longer. But you take the pressure off of yourself. The minute you uh have had a momentum of not wanting to do it, you have to take it in small steps. You could even say baby steps, but build the constancy. Constancy is one of the most important qualities for you to have. When you stay constant to it, you will gain your victory. But if you uh go with the wind, today it's blowing in this direction and tomorrow it's blowing in that direction, and the next day it's blowing over here, you will find yourself being led in all those different directions. So you have to determine you want this. Now, what would be a good reason to want it? You feel good when you're being kind to someone and loving, that feels so much better than when you're nasty to someone. So you have to determine, I don't like how it feels when I'm nasty. So you know what? I don't care what it takes, I don't care what it's going to do, I'm gonna keep chunking away at this because I feel better when I'm operating for my authentic self, who I really am, how I was created to be. And that if you have a strong enough desire to be free of the yuck, it can give you enough of a desire to use the constancy. Okay, I'm used to being a little lazy about this. I don't meditate like I should, but you know what? I want to meditate because I feel so much better and so much more peaceful in my heart when I do this. So you know what? Five minutes. I can carve out a 24-hour day, I can carve out five minutes to do this. And when you do it that day, you make the vow. Okay, that made me feel really good. I will do this tomorrow, also, even if it's five minutes, and then you may find you're doing it for more than five minutes. So it's very important to build that momentum and do it in small little chunks if you need to to help you overcome. Constancy is very, very important to help you get there. I also suggest that you do it at the same time every day, if at all possible. Now, you might have a schedule that's all across the board, but you, if you say, you know what, I'm going to get up 10 minutes earlier, and I'm going to do this every day this week. And I'm going to see how I do during this week. And if you determine that alarm's going off and you want to hit the snooze, you're going to catch yourself and say, you know what? I know it's hard, but I'm going to get up and I'm going to meditate because I know how much better I feel when I get so centered in my heart. Do you start to build a momentum, a rhythm that you get so comfortable with it, you're building the muscle to become a habit. But if you're not in a habit, you have to determine I'm going to make this a habit. I'm going to do it the same time every day, even if I just do it five minutes. And then when you get a handle on doing it for five minutes for two weeks, and then you go, Wow, my day went so much better by starting it this way. Now I have even more incentive to do it next week. I'm going to do make sure I do this for a month. And you commit to that five minutes, even if you extend it longer, you do it for those five minutes. I also recommend that you have a special place, either like a special chair or a special pillow, or you might have a room dedicated to an altar. But when you're going to I'm just using the example with a meditation, if you're going to commit to doing a meditation every single day, and you know you're going to go to this very special place at the same time every day, it's harder to talk yourself out of it. Because immediately you're going to go, Yeah, but I've got my pillow waiting for me in that room. And what you're doing is using my example of meditation, your light from meditating actually goes into that chair or that pillow. So you build a very special place. So you are much more likely to go to your special place because just even sitting on that pillow makes you immediately go into that space of, oh, I want to do this, I feel so good. Because your energy from the meditation, every day that you've done it, is more and more anchored into that pillow until pretty soon you have a column of light that's coming right into that pillow or that man. So these are little tricks that you can do with yourself to keep yourself on track. Now your monkey mind is going to kick in, and you, like I said, you have to have a strong enough desire that you're said, you know what? I told St. Germain, or whatever master you want to do this with, I committed that I was going to do this, and you know what? I have to look them in the face, and I do not want to tell them I got lazy. Because it's very easy to do that. So use a master or even someone that you could say is your buddy. You're tag teaming with each other, and you've committed with your friend, I'm going to do this, and you're going to question me every single day, did I do it? And I'm going to report to you. When you have someone that you've got to report to, it makes you much more likely to do it. It's kind of like a contract that you're making. I'm committing to you that I'm going to do this. People that want to lose weight do it this way. They'll go and they'll join something like a Weight Watchers or something similar, or they'll have a buddy that is holding them accountable for what are you eating, kind of like a coach. Things that you do in the world work really well for spiritual work as well. But it starts with your desire. If you go, yeah, I don't really care. I can promise you, beloved, you will not stay with it. This is how New Year's resolutions often go. People will make the, I'm all excited, I've got a clean page for the year, and I'm going to do this as my New Year's resolution. And in three weeks, they're not doing it anymore. More people do that than not. Because when they're making that New Year's resolution, they're not committing. They're just saying, I'm going to do this. But they didn't buckle down and say, by God, I want a new habit for this year, and I am going to do whatever it takes to make this happen. And then you start to do those little things that I'm sharing with you. It's about three weeks to start building a habit. So if you can get over the hump of the three weeks, you'll find it becomes even easier for you to do it on a daily or three times a week, however, you commit, it becomes easier after you've done it for a while. Does that answer your question? Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_05 32:34

You're welcome. I ask a question going off of that question. So um with doing decrees, this is as we know, I'll say homework. Um, but it's by choice, really. But anyways, so I the Surreas and the Estreas, because I find it's easier for me to follow along to the YouTube videos from when mother was at the summit. Is that's okay and or works to follow along to do my decrees? Or should I be doing that?

SPEAKER_07 33:11

Because you're not just doing it by yourself. Every single person who's on that recording with her, even if it was just her by herself, there's a multiplication factor that happens. You're not doing it alone any longer, you're doing it with an entire group who's got their momentum in it, so it's assisting you as you're assisting them. So it's highly recommended that you do it to a recording or a YouTube video. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_09 33:41

All right, that's really helpful. To know.

SPEAKER_07 33:46

Thank you. You're welcome. Let's talk about the time of year. It's fall. This is the time of year where the harvest takes place. So the seeds that were planted in spring, let's go back even further. The ideas may have come during the winter where they're germinating. Oh, I think I should do that this year. I don't know if any of you remember, but I had strongly suggested you think about how you wanted to set the pace for this year. So you plant those seeds in the spring. Summer, you're putting the energy into it for it to come into bloom. This time of year is where you're going to harvest. Whatever you put your attention on this year should now be starting to come into fulfillment. So, the question to ask yourself what did I commit to earlier in the year? And did I bring it into fruition? Question was very important because that is what will get you through the seed planting and then the growing it through the summer season so that you have a harvest that you're reaping in the fall. This is a question that you can ask yourself. Did I do it? Or did I forget that I was doing it? Or did I start and something came along and derailed me? Or did I do it and I it was even more than I thought it was going to be? This is a question to be asking yourself this time of year. This is important, and the reason it's important is because when you start to live your life in the cycles of the season, you will actually find your energy field growing much, much faster and much, much easier. Because you'll are putting your energy into your project or whatever it is that you want to do. Then when you start to reap the benefits, you've got a momentum that will carry you through into the winter when you must start to reflect on the year. And what do I want to accomplish next year? What do I want to expand from where I'm out into making it even greater than what it is already? Or to say, now I can add a new piece into this. This is how you step more and more into your mastery. What I was expounding on with Hannah's question, this is how you can utilize that. So I'm really much I'm going to suggest this as homework, but I want you to reflect on your year. Don't wait till the end of the year, which is when most people are doing it. But I want you to reflect on your year and look out did I accomplish what I wanted to accomplish? Do I feel good about what I planted earlier this year? Did I harvest it well? Because between now and the end of the year, if you have not grown it very well, you can put your attention and energy into it. Because during the winter months, you have a tendency, if you're going with the seasons, like the trees lose their leaves, you can go internal. So if you're looking at what did I plant and I didn't really harvest it very well, as you're spending more and tell more time internally, you can use that to help bring that harvest all the way to the end of the year. Because you're here for a very specific purpose, my friends. You are here to help me bring in the golden age. And this is at a critical turning point right now. It is more important than ever that you're now looking out into the world and going, Oh my goodness, I can't believe this world. How in the world do we bring in a golden age when we look at this? It becomes even more important that you look at where do I want to be in my life? How can I use my light and energy and put it out into the world to make that change so that my light inspires other people? That my love is going out and changing the world. So, this is how you can help bring in the golden age. Springboarding off of Hannah's very important question. But it's a time to start to reflect. And if you don't like what you've done with this year, go deep inside. Do the internal work. Look at what I can bring to contribute. Because it's not just for you. When you are building your light and you're building your projects, when you are putting what you are here to contribute out into the world, this is how you're going to change the world. It starts with you, beloved. So I come because I'm hoping that you'll be inspired enough by spending time with me to say, I can do this. She said, I've been in this challenge called Life is Good. And in this life of good challenge, every day without putting any explanation on it, I post a picture that makes me feel happy. Ten days. What a great momentum. If you're looking at what pictures, it doesn't matter if they're old, it doesn't matter if they're new. If you're looking at a picture and it makes you happy, the idea is you're going to share it with others because it could potentially make them happy as well. But what it anchors within the consciousness is life is good. Don't look at the world externally and say, Oh my goodness, it's crazy out there. You look at your sphere of influence, you look at your world. You hang on to my hand so tightly that you only see me because your life is good. And if it needs a little tweaking, this is when you call to my beloved Portia and you say, I need some opportunity. I feel like I've hit a wall. I feel like I'm stagnant. I need some help. I need an opportunity to help me bust out of this. So you may or may not remember, but earlier in this year I said, I want you to create a gratitude journal. Why? Because gratitude has one of the highest vibrations on this planet. So when you are deliberately placing gratitude in your consciousness, it sets a momentum, like I was sharing with Hannah's question. Life is good, is also a similar thing. Look in your life, and what is good in your life? But if you've hit a wall and you go, Yes, my life is good, but I want X much more. Call to my beloved, call to Portia, go to her and say, I need your help. Pour out your heart to her. Do you know how much she wants to hear from you? This is why she stuck around in the constellation of Virgo. Because she wanted you to look at that constellation and remember, I'm still here for you and I'm coming back, and I want to help you more than ever, ever, ever before. Because your consciousness is now at a place again where I can help you. So let's do it together. Imagine how excited my beloved gets when you reach out to her like this. She wants to help you. We both want to help you. We want you to be who you really are. Because you just living in your life of being who you are changes more in this world than you can ever imagine. And this is why the most important thing is for you to cultivate yourself. It is not selfish, it is the most selfless thing that you can do to step into who you really are. Because when you live life from life is good, and I have so much gratitude because life is good, and then you call to my beloved Portion, you say, I need some opportunity for this, and she starts to provide the opportunity, and you get even more excited. Guess how that changes your world? And if it changes your world, it's definitely going to change the world of the people around you as well, because you will inspire them. Gail, if you are comfortable, I want you to share your opportunity. Because it's not just for Gail. When someone gets it, if one person can do it, anyone can do it. So, Gail, I wish for you to share your story because your story is an important one.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

Thank you, Saint Germain. Thank you, Porsha, for this opportunity. My heart is just overflowing with gratitude because I am now in the process of purchasing my own place. It's a condo. It all happened toward the end of August. I put in an application to the Jackson Hall Housing Authority, and I have eight opportunities for their wage. Drawing because I've been here for eight years. I had tried previously for a couple of rentals. I never got picked. And I just saw this advertisement that they sent out. I knew that it was from you because the walls in that little place were painted violet. Unbelievable. So I I tried for it. I applied for it. And I found out that I was the first one chosen. And so I had to quickly um work with them to you know get the um financing and tried to figure out or work um for getting the down payment. And of course, you told me don't worry about that because it'll all come together. Well, lo and behold, yesterday the the bank that I'm working with, which is First Republic Bank on Broadway, they have a program, a grant of a grant program for people who need help with their down payment. And it can be up to $8,000. And the Jackson Hall Housing Housing Authority, because the properties in Jackson are so expensive, my appraisal that came back yesterday was for this little place, $650,000. I'm not paying that much. I mean, obviously, because of the housing authority, that you get a huge, huge break. So I'm paying under $200,000 for this. And the First Republic, the bank, now has granted me, which I just found out yesterday, $8,650 toward the down payment of this little place. They had scheduled the closing for the end of November, and I've been kind of begging them to help me get into it before that. I'd like to get in like the first or second week of November. That may that may happen, I'm not sure. And I'm so grateful. I have had to move so many times, and I've had some really difficult places that I've lived in, but I can't even express my deep gratitude. I'm so excit I'm so excited. Um, I have to be careful not to get too excited. And I'm so I'm excuse me.

SPEAKER_07 46:35

Why don't you want to get too excited? Um, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 46:43

I don't know. You're gonna be in your own place for Christmas and I'll never have to move again.

unknown 46:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 46:48

I need to tell everyone why I said that to Gail. Beloved Gail is in such disbelief that this is happening, she's afraid if she puts her energy into it, it could fall out from underneath her. My beloved, it is not going to do that. So you've heard me say this before. Your excitement is the fuel. So what Gail is doing right now, this isn't just about her home. It's building excitement for her life. This is an abundance consciousness she's stepping into. So as she's stepping into abundance with this condo, it spills into every aspect of her life. So, my beloved, I want you to get excited. I want you to share your enthusiasm with others because this is something that can be for anybody, right? Yeah, absolutely. And I don't mean buying a condo. Whatever you need and want, if you will call to Portia, if you will call to me, beloved Harps, we want to help you. Right, yeah, and I did a lot.

SPEAKER_04 48:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 48:04

Gail's story is just as important as when I've had Natalie share her story. That I had Natalie share her mother's story. This can happen for anyone. It's not, oh Gail is just so special, it could only happen to Gail. Like it's just so Natalie's so special, it can only happen to Natalie. Nay, this can happen to anyone. Write to me, write to Portia, call to us, particularly call to Portia, because Portia will give you opportunities. Gail had to pass some really big tests before it happened. So if you don't get excited about it or stay so focused that my these masters are going to help me. If a bump in the road comes up, you might go, oh, see, I knew it wasn't for me. Because that is what that monkey mind will do. It will discourage you, it will talk you out of it, it will stop you from doing it. Your job is to be the fullness of who you are as a god or goddess, and we want to help you with that. So your physical surroundings are just as important as your spiritual life, as your mental life, as your emotional life, because they're all life sifts inside each other. One fits inside the other, which fits inside the other, which fits inside the other, and the life can come pouring through so that you can have your dreams. But if you don't believe it and you don't get excited about it, you can literally shut it off. Gail did not shut it off. Natalie did not shut it off. But you'd have to believe that we have your best interests, and oftentimes, if we are able to, if you ask us for something, we will expand it into something even greater because we want to. This is a time to live in abundance. And if you're thinking small, you're not going to get there. Gail knew the minute she saw the walls that it was from me and Portia. We will let you know. But don't think small, and don't think that we won't help. In Gail's case, like she said, this where she lives in Jackson, the housing market is extreme. So for her to get her own place at all is a huge deal. She's not asking for a million-dollar house. She wanted her place. A place where she could afford it, where she could be comfortable, where she could do her prayer work. And we we want this for her. We want this for all of you. So please utilize my beloved because she wants to provide you opportunity. And if a little bit of a bump in the road comes along, do not get discouraged. Just keep asking, keep the faith, keep pouring out your love to us, keep asking us, okay. I really believe that this can happen. I really want your help.

SPEAKER_09 51:56

And we will. Questions, comments.

SPEAKER_07 52:05

Hannah set the theme for tonight, and it was exactly what I what I wanted to speak about. So Hannah, thank you for being so attuned tonight to be able to do that. I truly want everyone to start getting into that abundance consciousness. Next year could be a very difficult year. And it's when things are difficult that people break down. So I want you to be able to focus on me. If you need to get a little picture of me, Gail can get you hooked up. Keep me handy. Get a picture of my beloved. Place them side by side and pour out your heart to us. Hold our hands and we will walk you through fire. We will walk you through floods. We will walk you through anything. The valley of the shadow of darkness, we will walk you through it. Because this is what we want to do for you. We love you beyond words. And there's no co-measurement. We are here for you. So I'm going to open it up again. Any other questions or comments? I have a question. Yes, Allen. Hi. Like Fred's beautiful smile. Nice to see you, Saint Germain and Mary.

SPEAKER_04 53:54

I just have a question. I've noticed this summer while working with children that there's this very interesting, I noticed this very interesting pattern with parents. So some parents, they see me and they immediately trust me to the point where it's a little bit bewildering.

SPEAKER_07 54:12

And other parents don't be loving beloved. Why is it bewildering? Because they don't know me. The minute you meet someone, and I mean this for everyone, people read you in a split second. When you carry light, they feel your lightness. They feel instinctively that you are coming from your authentic self. And you can trust the God in man. You cannot trust man, but you can trust the god or goddess in a man or a woman. So Alex, they are responding to your light. Continue.

SPEAKER_04 55:01

Thank you, Saint Germain, um, for that comment. And then other parents, you know, they are they have a lot of anxiety and and they're very anxious.

SPEAKER_05 55:13

And I I I I've noticed that there's almost there's this almost perfect correlation between the abundance, um, and not just material that the parents live in and the trust that they have for me.

SPEAKER_04 55:29

And I wonder if it's a chicken or egg situation. Um, whereas like, well, they feel safe because they feel like they're in abundance, or they're in abundance because they know that they're safe.

SPEAKER_07 55:44

Same coin, one side and the other. So when somebody's operating from their authentic self, the trust and safety is there because on an unconscious level, they're drawing in the people into their world. This too, any one of you can do this. You draw you draw into your world the people like you or higher. So the people that Alex is working with, children, the parents, those that trust her, it's because they know they're drawing in only trustworthy. Like attracts light. When they meet Alex, they feel her heart, they feel they see her light, they can feel her experience with children and her love for children. So it's an automatic reading, and every single person on this planet does this. When you meet somebody that you really like, just as Alex is describing with these parents, oh, I want to meet you, I want to get to know you better, I want to spend time with you because you feel that kindred space. And those that don't trust or they have a lower vibration, they're overlaying on Alex what's going on with them. Their reading is coming from their filter. So even though they may have an abundance conscious, or excuse me, they may have abundance, they're not necessarily in an abundance consciousness. There is a difference. Someone can be a pauper and have an abundance consciousness. When Alex is meeting these people, guess what Alex is doing? She's drawing into her world these people because this is what she is putting out. As she's getting free from what she's gone through, and the real her, her authentic self is shining out into the world, the laws of attraction will automatically bring that back in. So the two go hand in hand: safety and abundance consciousness, all the qualities of God go together. Every single person has this within them. Alex now is experiencing the joy of being around like-minded people with the same vibration.

SPEAKER_02 58:24

Saint Germain, I wanted to comment on the gratitude, excuse me, sticking out some migration closer to you, um, on the gratitude journal, because I wanted to let everybody know that when you're writing and thinking of all the things that you are grateful for, even in the most difficult situations, which I found myself in, I could look and think of all the things that I was grateful for and blessed. And even though I felt I couldn't hardly stand it where I was at that moment in that home, I was in my bedroom and I was my bedroom is beautiful, and I love my bedroom, but it that wasn't the only thing, so I could look at that and I could hang on to you or Portia and know that I could get through anything. And I think that's a wonderful um reminder for people and to keep on with their journals because as things get rough or difficult, it you can just keep on going no matter what.

SPEAKER_07 59:41

Well, let me to expand off of what Gail just said. Thank you for sharing that, Gail, because that's a very important aspect. This is why I said write it out because it reminds you, oh, yes, I do have things to be grateful for. You see, in the ascended master world, and the Buddhists oftentimes think this way, they don't see something and go, oh, this is horrible, or oh, this is wonderful, all opportunity. So when you don't sway between the two, when you're not going between, oh, this is so wonderful, and oh, this is so awful, and just stay even through all of it with gratitude. Okay, what am I learning here? What am I clearing here? What is what am I supposed to gain from this experience rather than oh, it's so terrible. The minute you label something as terrible, you're going to have a very difficult time going through it because it's terrible. Whereas if you can stay more in the middle way and go, okay, what am I supposed to be learning? What am I gaining from this? You see, the most important thing for the karmic board, and I'm speaking from on behalf of my beloved at this moment, is if you have what you would call negative karma, you're in a very difficult situation, and you now label it as terrible, what the karmic board does, is they look at are you learning the lessons? So as you're going through what you label good situations or bad situations, it's always about the lesson. So if you are close to balancing that karma in a what you would call a very difficult situation, what you're going to find though is the karmic board can look at you and say, they got the lesson, they got from this what they needed. They what we needed them to know, they've got it. And if there's any little bit of karma left, they might give you a dispensation, which is a release of light, a grant of light given to you, and free you sooner because you got the lesson. And they're more than happy to do that for you when you get the lesson. And if you can stay more even, don't let your emotions take over and just ride that wild wave of, oh, this is so horrible, and you share with your friends how horrible it is. Every day you wake up thinking about how horrible it is, as you get that momentum going on, it where's your vibration? How much more difficult is it to walk through a challenging situation if you're in a lower vibration? If you do like Gail did, she wrote out in her journal. Remember, I said, put in one thing that you would say in the past, it wasn't so great. But you're grateful for the lesson. That's how Gail freed herself to be able to get the condo she's getting. So gratitude, even when it's a tough situation, will always carry you through to the other side to have a breakthrough into something what you would call wonderful now coming through. Because you see, beloved, what's happening is you're staying in your authentic self. Your authentic self doesn't care if it's difficult or easy, your authentic self knows it's connected to their I am presence, and when you are connected to your I am presence and you're so anchored to your I am presence that nothing is swaying you, you will get through any situation with grace and ease. So learn the lessons. If you're in a difficult situation, ask yourself, what lesson am I learning from this? And a monkey mind's first reaction is to say, Oh, there's no lesson in this. Thank that monkey mind for sharing, and then meditate on it. What am I supposed to learn from this? It may be sticking up for yourself, it may be maybe staying in silence, it may be an action you have to take, it may be going more internal. You will know. So I'm really glad, Gail, that you brought up the gratitude because now, Gail, in your world, you'd say she really had something to be grateful for now. But the reality is as she was walking through those difficult situations and keeping gratitude in her heart, staying connected to an I am presence, she got through it into a wonderful place for herself now questions.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:33

Yes, ma'am. Would you be able to shove some insight into on having an abundance consciousness and uh financial savviness, maybe, is the way to word it, or like saving money. You know what I'm getting at here. Yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:00

Thing is to step into your real self. I know this messenger has somebody told me this phrase almost 30 years ago. I'll have a wealthy heavenly father who wants to give me everything. Because your wealth comes from your I am presence. But with turning more financially savvy, you're becoming a good we call it a good steward. As your abundance is getting released to you, you're not being frivolous with it, you're not tossing it to the wind, you're not being nilly-willy with it. You're saying, my I am presence, release this money to me. And I believe there's more, more, more, more, more. And I'm going to use it wisely. So the only way you can do that is if you're connected to your I am presence, holy Christ self, your higher self. Because if you're in your monkey mind, your monkey mind will tell you every reason why you can't be that way. It will tell you all the reasons why this isn't going to work, and how this isn't you, you don't know how to manage money. I was never your thing. It will come up with all kinds of crazy scenarios. So the first thing you want to do is you want to remind yourself that you do have a wealthy Heavenly Father who releases everything you need and a wealthy mother that provides for your every need, and I'm going to honor by being wise with how I utilize my money. So it's stepping into connecting with your I am presence and making sure that when you're thinking about finances, that you're in the abundance consciousness, no matter what the world is looking like around you, you step into that place where my heavenly father and mother will always provide. And therefore, I know, even though it doesn't look like it right now, that I have everything that I need. And I'm going to just keep in that consciousness no matter what. And then from that consciousness, you take action. This is where you can write to Porsche and say, I need some additional finances. Help me figure out a way and provide the opportunities for me to have more flow coming into my life. So it allows you to become a co-creator with Portia, knowing that you're going to get everything that you need. And on your side, you're going to be very wise with the abundance that's released to you.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:02

Financial maturity. We're on it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:06

Financial maturity. Do you have advice, especially in Jackson with the wealth distribution, about how to not think about rich people as like the enemy?

SPEAKER_07 1:09:21

That is the most important thing that you want to get a handle on. Because people with money are not necessarily evil. Now, Pallas Athena is the goddess of truth, and abundance, money, truth, healing is all on the green red. And what Alice Athena says about money is that many people have heard I'm going to start it a little sooner. Some people used to say money is the root of all evil. Well, that's not true. It's an abundance consciousness, and money is your energy that is put in a form that allows you to do an exchange in the world. And the more abundance consciousness you have, the more the money can come in. Then people started to realize the quote is actually the love of money is what's evil. Well, this is what Pallas Athena has to say about it. And she can say it much more eloquently than I'm going to, because that is part of her specialty with being the goddess of truth on the green ray. Basically, she's saying you want to put love into money. So the love of money is not the problem. The problem is the consciousness of greed and selfishness that goes with that money sometimes. So what I would caution you on, Hannah, is being very careful to make a judgment. And it is a judgment. Since you are not at a place where you can look at someone and know their entire lifestream and all the different embodiments, you don't know if they have done something for the brotherhood, and the brotherhood is heaping additional abundance on them. You don't know if they've been a good steward of their money, and this is a lifetime where more is given to them. You don't know if the last embodiment they walked through poverty because they misused money once before. And this lifetime, they have given the opportunity to be a good steward. I'm giving you different examples because you you don't know how to look at a lifestyle and know where they're ought. So when you just look at somebody and automatically judge because they're wealthy, there must be something bad about them. How dare they? You're not coming from an abundance consciousness yourself, you're coming from a poverty consciousness, and like attracts like. So when you're cutting down someone else's abundance, it cuts you off from a flow of abundance. So you want to be happy for them. Now, it's not to say that everyone out there has rightfully gained the money. There may be some that they have misused their power and taken from someone else so they have more. That's the evil that Alisathina was talking about. That's selfishness. And since you don't know if this is the case of the person standing in front of you or if you're looking at Jackson as a whole, you're putting a poverty consciousness on something that maybe should not be there, both for you and the person who may have had wealth because they've earned the right from other lifetimes. So I really caution you on looking at where your consciousness is when you're looking at someone who is rich and not knowing if they got it by good gains from a past embodiment or not. This is why there is a phrase that says, Revenge is mine, saith the Lord. Because God knows exactly, karmic board knows exactly what the soul is doing, what do they deserve, what have they earned, and leave it to God. If they've done it in a very unhealthy, godly way, turn it over to God. Let God handle it. Because karma is very exacting. Alex just had a conversation with this messenger recently where someone did not do right by her, and she had the opportunity to be shown the karmic price they were paying. And Alex was shocked because it was so much more than what she would have given them. And this is where karma is exacting. So your job to be your authentic self is to come from an abundance consciousness, to be your authentic self, be happy for everyone for whatever they have, because that opens up the floodgates for you to get more. Make sense, Hannah?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:11

Yeah, that's so helpful. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:13

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:17

Just holding so much joy and gratitude to you and Lady Portia on my journey back here to Arizona. I was directed to go roads I've never been on. And with doing that, I felt you so close that it was blazing violet flame all the way from Jackson Hole and the back roads in Utah and Colorado and Arizona.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:50

Thank you for that testimony. Beloved ones, this is exactly how you can live every moment of your life. There is nothing that stops this except you. So thank you for sharing that. Because what she's describing is an abundance consciousness. God will show me the way. She has a momentum on violet flame, and the violet flame can dissolve whatever roadblocks keep things from going well for her. So what did she say? I'm grateful. I she's operating from her authentic self, and you could hear it in her voice, you could hear it in Gail's voice. This is where all of you can be. And it starts with these simple little tools of keeping things simple, staying in gratitude, calling to us, knowing that you're taken care of.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:54

Thank you for sharing that. You're most welcome. And the other big gift was trusting the process and going from Manila, Utah, and pushed to go as far as Montrose and with your the directions. When I got there, there was no hotel rooms to be had, supposedly. And so I got really centered and did the clarion call and was directed to one that was perfect, and I embraced my abundance, even though, and beautiful people. And also I knew that my light that was you were working with was necessary to be in that place.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:41

Exactly. Thank you very much for sharing that. These are important things for every one of you to hear because you can do the same. Very, very important. Well, your consciousness is determines what happens in your life. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:00

My pleasure. Thank you.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:04

This is all part of our conversation tonight. We will help you. And did you hear Jeanette say? Opened up more, it opened up more, and opened up more. This is what we can do. This is why we want to work hand in hand with you. You are never alone. We want to help you. We feel that we are working hand in hand in a co-creative process. So when you understand that, of course, you're going to talk to the person that is creating with you. And there's many things that we can do to open things up. So thank you for sharing that, Jeanette. That was really important for everyone to hear. Thank you. You're very welcome. Maybe not tonight. How are you?

SPEAKER_04 1:19:08

I'm good. I'm having a lot of out that I think I've like tonight that feel really good, but then they're almost triggering triggering interesting emotions because I think in the past when I've come to meetings and listened to you, I felt really optimistic about moving forward. And I am feeling that, but not as much, because I think I realized this time I have not been as consciously putting in as much effort into myself as I have before. So it's almost a little intimidating taking this in because I want to work on those things, knowing that it's fall and it's a good time to start again and refocus on myself. But yeah, it's a mixed bag because of all this.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:14

My beloved, I want to share with you that there are ups and downs in the road, in the journey. And if you will hang on to my hand and you'll hang on to Portia's hand, we will get you through this. The most important thing is that you stay connected to your authentic self and that you walk with us through whatever you're going through, and we'll get you back into that up. But life is a journey of ups and downs. You want to approach it as evenly as possible when there's ups and downs, but we will be there for you and help you through it. Thank you. We're very happy to see you and have your presence with us again. I do the same. Excellent. So I'm going to let this messenger share her news with everyone. So the reason that we are on computer tonight, meaning the master and me, is because I have moved back to Wisconsin. The masters told me they wanted me to move back here. Something happened on my birthday, something very big and wonderful. And I'm not really at liberty to share what happened, but it happened out here. And everything opened up. I wouldn't I have not lived in Green Bay, which is where I am, in 37 years. After college, I went away and I never wanted to live back here. Nothing ever called to me to say, oh, let's go back to Green Bay. In fact, a few times when I thought about it, I was like, no. Five years ago for the first time, I didn't get that no, but a different opportunity is what opened up. And then the masters made it clear they wanted me in Jackson. Well, now they want me here in Green Bay. So as Gail said, everything literally fell into place and opened up. It was not something I was planning even two weeks ago. It wasn't in my horizon at all. It happened very, very quickly, and all the things that needed to fall into place fell into place. So the masters are hoping that you still enjoy being on like this. Those of you that have been on before, it probably doesn't feel any different, except I'm looking more at the camera rather than looking around a room. But Saint Germain is hoping that you'll still want to come and be online to hear what he has to say because they sent me out here. They want me to be in Green Bay.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:38

And the room goes silent.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:42

Congratulations. Yes. We will stay connected.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:48

Okay. Well I literally arrived this morning. Oh my gosh, I'm really I'll I'll live here again. It's been kind of uh a mindfender, so to speak. Does anyone else have anything they want to share or ask me? I would hope too that you build a community in Jackson and that you come together as a community. Come to Natalie's house, have a hot luck, as you say, or have everyone bring a little dish. Because it's a community of the Holy Spirit. And what that means is as you come together to share in the light, it makes your experience stronger. So, yes, you can come on, like many of you have, but if you're in Jackson, I would encourage you to still get together as a group because it does make the light stronger. And this gets spread out into the entire valley of Jackson and the surrounding areas. So it does actually benefit the entire area when you do this.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:15

I just want to say, St. Jermaine, even though I know you kind of already know because I talk to you all the time about Yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:26

What people don't know about this messenger is she's had extreme testings. Most people on the planet could never ever have gone through what she did. And what it did for her by being willing to walk through it, even if it wasn't always conscious, she made the vow on the inner, it's left her to where she is today. So it is a great boon that she was willing to do some of the things that she is has done. And we at the Brotherhood are very grateful. It helps the entire planet. And I do not want anyone to walk away with thinking you're not doing the same. For you are. Every single one of you is doing the piece that only you can do.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:25

And we are grateful for that.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:38

Those who've walked a very difficult path really leave solid footprints for others to follow it. Because they're clearing the way. Someone is going skiing and the path is already cut out. For those who are a little less experienced, it's helpful. This messenger is getting very tired. I'm mopping her up, and I can still feel her fading. So I am going to say my goodnights to everyone. I am very grateful you are all here. I'm so glad you joined us again. Very, very happy to have you here. I'm grateful for each and every one of you. And Jackson, I really hope that you continue to stay together as a community and if possible to come together as a group because it really does solidify the light when you're all there. And then when you disperse at the end of the evening, it makes a much greater impact. I bless each of you. So that you see nothing but the perfection in your life. And we look forward to seeing you next time. Good night, all beloved.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:11

So much love. Thank you, Barbara. Thank you.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:35

You are always, always, always so amazing when you come. And to be able to have the opportunity to be with you bi-monthly. What a treasure. And tonight was no exception. Thank you for understanding where I'm at. And that this was a little more difficult, having just the computer screen and staying with me, Saint Germain. We love you with all my heart.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:09

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