Episode 24: Confidence Isn’t Built - It’s Proven

We often think confidence comes first—but the truth is, confidence is earned through action. In this episode, we break down why waiting to “feel ready” keeps you stuck, and how small, consistent actions create real belief. If you’ve been holding back, this conversation will challenge you to move first—and trust that confidence will follow.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Welcome to the Become Unshaken Podcast, where we journey through the hard together. We're so glad you're here. Welcome to the Become Unshaken Podcast. My name is Stephanie Rodriguez.

SPEAKER_01 0:18

And I am Michael Rodriguez.

SPEAKER_00 0:19

And today we are talking about confidence. We love this topic. We talk about it often. It's in the book. We talk about confidence and how to build it and the importance of it, not only for ourselves, but for our kiddos. We talk about this all the time. But today we're talking about it in a very specific context. Confidence isn't built, it's proven. We often think that confidence comes first, but the truth is confidence is earned through action. In this episode, we break down why waiting to feel ready keeps you stuck and how small consistent actions create real belief. Let's clear something up today, because I do think it holds a lot of people back, right? So many people are waiting, waiting to feel ready, to feel qualified, and to feel confident. But that moment rarely comes. Today we're going to talk about the myth of confidence, right? This idea that it it comes before you act, or you have to somehow, somehow build it up in yourself in order to succeed. We're going to actually flip that on its head entirely. You ready? I'm ready. Let's let's dive into it. Let's actually start there. The confidence myth. Why do people believe they need confidence before they act?

SPEAKER_01 1:31

I think more than anything, I believe that it really boils down to fear. We we talk about it a lot. I talk about it in the book. I try to talk about it with other people. Fear is something that really holds us back in a in many different cases and situations and scenarios. And so I believe when we do not want to try something new or take a risk, it comes down to fear, fear of failure, uh, the fear of how it may make us look. Uh, should we not succeed or should we take a misstep even, right? Or at times misspeak. I mean, now when we're shooting podcasts and videos and I'm speaking to people, whether it's on a stage or it's one-on-one, there are more and more opportunities for me to misspeak. Right? Whether I'm flubbing a word or I forget a word for for a moment, whatever it is. And, you know, it comes down to fear. And and I think, you know, I I talk about in the book, I think that, you know, when you experience significant fear or really tragic or traumatic event, or, you know, have endured fearful living or scenarios, it makes other things a lot seem less scary. But no matter what, I do believe that regardless of experience or perspective, fear is what holds us back from so much. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

I feel like I want to I want to add to that from a perspective of comparison, right? So there's a fear that you might not be ready. But then if you start going down that path and looking around you, you start thinking, okay, well, can I do it as well as that person or that person? Without context of how long they've been doing something, how long they have experience in a particular field or area. And if you're trying something new, goodness, that's gotta be hard to overcome, right? So we feel like we have to master something right off the bat, but that's never the expectation. And somehow we put that expectation on ourselves. Sure. It's so interesting how we do that. And it's, I think it's natural for many people to do it and in various areas of their lives. I know that for me, at least at first when I was starting out in my career, oh man, I felt so unsettled. I felt so unsure of myself. But the more I took risk, and the more I took, I made changes, intentional changes in my career and tried new things, I realized I didn't need to master anything. I could just lean into the opportunity, into the discomfort, and grow within that. Right. And then all of a sudden, my confidence didn't come from knowing that I was a master in all fields. My confidence grew in that I was going to be okay, regardless of how uncomfortable a situation was.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

Sure. And and you know you didn't start as a master in these things, right? And I think that's where you're going in and an important distinction. You didn't expect to be a master before you took the step, right? You trusted yourself to step into a role, whatever it would be, and through learning, through time, through experience, through failures and successes, you begin to develop and and grow that acumen in that particular area, where then you are at times able to become a master or at least very good at whatever it is that you're seeking to do. But I think the real key is recognizing that you're not going to start off the master. And so many times I do believe that fear and apprehension, and I mean, you talked about comparison, that's that's a great one. You know, all of these things all they do is get in the way. All they do is prevent us from growth. And one of the things that we really try to teach is to take the step, to take the shot, take the swing, make the attempt, and see what happens. You know, I'm not going to be an astronaut. That's not gonna happen, right? And and so I know that. So I'm not gonna say, you know what I could do right now, I could just start reading books and become an astronaut. No, I'm I'm not gonna do that. But there are things that are not unbelievable, there are things that we can step into in confidence, knowing that if we are okay with potentially failing, if we are okay with maybe not being perfect, and just take the attempt and trust and confidence that we will grow. I think you talked about it, you know, beautifully. You would take one role in in work that you weren't really familiar with, and you'd take the chance and you'd learn. And then you'd have another opportunity in a different field. And what you didn't have was a mastery in that field, but you had the the confidence and the experience and the evidence that you can step into something and learn and you're willing to do that. And I think I'm assuming that just continues to kind of compound.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

Yeah, it absolutely does. I think with every action, every opportunity, the confidence builds, right? Because if we let's just break down the definition of confidence, right? So confidence, it's it's a firm belief, trust or assurance in oneself and one's abilities, or the reliability of others, right? So this trust that you spoke, you spoke of just now, right? This this firm belief or assurance in yourself, that actually comes with facing your fears gradually, taking a few risks, falling, and then choosing to rise and get up, and then repeating that process. And that confidence will build over time. I don't, and I think that's the distinction. It's it's not that you shouldn't have trust in yourself right off the bat or confidence in yourself right off the bat. You absolutely should, but not foolproof assurance that you're gonna master something. Sure. It's just that if you take some small actions and build that confidence in yourself over time, you're gonna be far more equipped to take the bigger challenges and the bigger risks and rise faster when you fall.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

When you want to talk about a way to build confidence, quite honestly, it is to fail.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

It is to swing and miss brutally. Because then what happens? You survive. Yeah. And then you realize, oh, wait, I can take big shots and I can try and make big moves and try and do something big. Yeah. Because if I fail, I've learned that, well, the world doesn't stop spinning.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

Exactly. That trust that you have in yourself, in the definition of confidence, that trust comes from knowing that you're gonna be okay, that you can take that step and you can fail and be okay, or succeed and celebrate, right? Both of those scenarios should build confidence in you. And and over time, that compounds, like you said, that gets bigger and greater. And then you can give it to others and help others kind of rise. And it's amazing what it does. It's this kind of beautiful compounding effect around you and around all the people that you love. So, such an important conversation that we don't have to, we can give ourselves grace. We don't have to start something and know that we're going to be perfect at it and be the best at it there ever was. No, you can start at it and see how it goes.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

So let's talk about some examples. I would love to dive into an example where you didn't feel ready, but you did it anyway. Can you think of anything?

SPEAKER_01 9:39

Yeah, I've I've got a a couple that absolutely come to mind. One obviously is we we talked about it uh when we did our imposter syndrome episode. You know, writing a book was something that I was actually very uncomfortable with. The the thought that I would be putting my words on paper, and not so much that I was worried about my words, but really about my capacity to write a book that people would read and care about, and that it would make sense, uh, that it would be clear. It's just something that was never on my radar. And I've had really big dreams and I've had really big moves and ideas and beliefs. This was never one of them. And so for a dreamer, for someone who is, you know, confident, yes, to find something that I was thinking, my gosh, I don't know that I can do this. Is this for real? And and I think that as I I addressed in that podcast episode before, you know, it really took a lot of affirmation from the people that I trust and then the experts for me to kind of finally exhale and go, okay, well, no, this is real. This really is going to happen. I really am capable of doing this. But I mean, from the beginning, from the inception of a Word document on my computer for the kiddos one day when they get older, to we're gonna go put this on Amazon and Target and Barnes and Noble for everybody to read and and have available to them. Man, that was a big swing uh that required a lot of support. But yeah, I mean, that that that was a big leap for me.

SPEAKER_00 11:34

Can I ask you a question? I we've never talked about this, so I'm curious. Did you smiling? I promise this one's this one's not gonna, it won't throw you. Sure. But I I would love to know the answer. So you took a big risk in starting your, you know, your venture with Subway. So I'm curious, did you have confidence in yourself then that this was gonna, you know, succeed and you were gonna be able to kind of dive in, know exactly what you were doing as an entrepreneur, as a restaurateur? I mean, you know, no experience going into that business, right? So I'm curious, you took that leap of faith then in yourself and you acted. Did that, number one, how did you feel in that moment, the same way you just reflected on on becoming an author? And then did that experience at all prepare you for this new venture?

SPEAKER_01 12:23

Fun. Yeah, I would say so. Remember, I I originally, for anyone that isn't aware, I was in federal law enforcement, realized I wanted to change. My uncle owned three restaurants here, three subways in uh North Carolina. And so I got my start with him, and he very much threw me into the deep end of the pool and said, figure it out. And I will say, for the most part, I did pretty well. And so that in and of itself was a leap. Yeah. Getting going from, you know, history major, law enforcement to general manager of three restaurants. Yeah, that was a drastic change and a and a hard left, no doubt about that. But over that time, I really felt that I had developed skills, and the brand was very supportive of my management of his restaurants as well. And so I had some confidence. I will say I was probably overly confident at my ability to turn around a failing restaurant as opposed to come in and really upgrade and run restaurants that were already self-sufficient and doing well to make it better. That was a much easier transition than taking a failing restaurant and turning it around. And so I think that that in and of itself was an eye-opening moment for me. But what I will say is a lot of the unforeseen issues and the difficulties within turning a restaurant around, that led to a whole lot of failures. And even in taking the skills that everyone said I had and were so great and putting them into this restaurant, there were certain factors that I could not control, which led to a giant feeling of failure rather routinely. And I think it was in my learning to fall, rise, and repeat, the growth of the values that we teach and promote, hard work, discipline, patience, right, and that perseverance. Even though I was on paper and at times felt I was failing, my survival and my willingness to do whatever it took to survive actually built my confidence. So if I have to think about it, quite honestly, now as you've got me thinking out loud here, it really was the difficulty and the survival of that difficulty that created the confidence, I believe, to say, well, let's go from one to three and three to twelve and twelve to twenty five. Yeah. Because you know what? I know I've grown a lot in it. My confidence is high. It's not an that's not an arrogance. You know, in the book, I've got a part in the book that says a thin line between confidence and arrogance. And I think that's true, but arrogance is more unrealistic. And I believe that over time and over a 15-year career, I learned that I would do whatever it took and that I would remain patient, active in that patience, and that we would continue to get up every day. And so there's confidence in that. So when it came to starting a business with you, one, I had a partner and I trust you completely as a business partner and as obviously a life partner first. So I had confidence in our ability to do something. If I'm being honest, I think it is already bigger than I imagined it would be, at least at this point. And so, you know, concern, worry 100%. And there are moments in every business and every life and every journey that doesn't go the way you think it is, and it makes you question and consider and wonder is this a time to pivot? Is this a time to change? Is this a time to do X, Y, or Z? But always had confidence in our capacity to create.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

And, you know, like with any business, how do people respond? What do they enjoy? Whether it's what kind of meat and veggie combination do you like on a sandwich? Or how does this message of hope and joy and resilience resonate? And with who? And you know, those are learnings, and we are continuing to learn day in and day out, but without experience and without taking the shot and without the confidence, or I'm sorry, without taking that shot, you don't develop the confidence to say, we'll figure it out and we can.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

Yeah, so so much to unpack there. First, I wanna I want to talk about the fact that action does create belief, right? So what you were just saying. So there is research in psychology that shows that mastery experiences are the strongest drivers of confidence, right? So just doing the thing and doing it over and over and over and repeating that. So I think if anyone's looking for permission to try something new, this is it. This is your permission. Try that thing that you've been wanting to, that you've been holding off on because either you thought you weren't ready, you weren't going to be perfect at it, you weren't sure how it was going to be received by others. If it is something that is truly within you to do and you want to, there's just some inclination in you to just take that risk and take that leap. This is permission to try. Now, I will caveat that with let's also set you up for success, right? This isn't about going and, you know, climbing a mountain tomorrow, having never, you know, put the shoes on. So, so because one thing that I feel like you just shared was there was something in you when we started this particular venture together that you had, you already had some comfort and some trust that this was this was going to make a difference for people. And and that was in your own ability and mine. And there is some confidence there that you could build from. So it was a it was a safe bet, but it was still a risk. So, so if you're gonna do it and you're gonna and you're gonna give yourself a chance to take that action and create that belief, start with a small step first. Don't go and don't go and start, don't get a get a subway franchise, for example. Like don't, don't jump into that.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Never never working it. So that's one of the things, right? When I talk to to buddies and and people, you know, who are considering getting into the restaurant industry and go, okay, let's talk about it. And yeah, you know, and they're like, Well, I want it to be passive income, and it's something that, you know, I'm I'll just get a manager and I say, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Have you ever worked in a restaurant or or a bar?

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Oh, I did not remember. Yeah. I when we first met, so I'll I'll I'll share that story. That was fun. When we first met, I was like, I really want, I just I would love a coffee shop. I love, I love coffee. I am an absolute coffee fan. I love it. Give me the small, you know, uh roasters, give me the, you know, I don't care, I'll I'll take Duncan, I'll take anything. Um, but I love coffee. But if I can have a really great cup of coffee and if I can share that experience with others, I was like, ah, that would be fun. What a cool venture that would be. And then you asked me, have you ever worked in a coffee shop? Have you ever even thought about what it would take to hire and train and keep that store going and go in at 6 a.m.? And I was like, oh, that doesn't sound so great.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

How many cups of coffee to pay for a$12,000 HVAC to sell? You didn't make that less fun. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

But I digress. I think, I think we're saying that the same thing with wanting people to be successful in these new, these new challenges they set up for themselves, because you know, you you do have to get over that fear and and you have to take that leap. But set yourself up for success in the same right. So don't sign up for, you know, a marathon before you've even done the 5K, right? So, so that's just just one example. We're not saying don't, don't act. We're saying act, but act in a way that builds you up, right? And then if you fail in that one, you try again and you try again. And then when you achieve that, then you go to the next one and the next milestone. And and in that journey, that confidence will get built.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

Right. And your your running analogy is perfect because, you know, I'm I'm gassed out after a two-mile run, right? Like I got nothing left. And so if I were to say, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna run a marathon, right? You're not prepared. That's where our lesson of grow in the weight, right? And being active in the weight and active and patient. You're not going to run a marathon not having run. Stay patient, get up every day, run a mile or two, and then three to five, yeah, and six to ten over months, right? You're not going to graduate from college with no work experience and then apply to be the CEO of an organization, right? That's not going to happen. Now, if you found one, kudos, and do you. But you've got to be confident in your ability to learn, but also realistic in what it is you're trying to do. No dream is too big. But we're not always going to be the best and earn, or I'm sorry, be given something right away. We got to earn it. We got to take baby steps. You've got to grow.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

I didn't start, I didn't buy 25 restaurants right away. I had one for seven years.

SPEAKER_00 21:45

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

Seven years of skill development.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

Grinding.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Grind. Yeah. Humility. Yeah. Right. Uh, an understanding of the real world and the business world and the banking world and the Customer base. I mean, so much goes into success. And I think what we're really trying to say is don't be afraid to take leaps and don't be afraid to put yourself out there. Accept the possibility that you won't be an expert right away and grow as you confidently take on the next challenge without setting yourself up for failure by jumping into the deep end of the pool with no experience. Again, I can't go to Bears training camp this summer. Yeah, right, and expect that I'm gonna make the team.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Don't do that. Yeah. We're gonna do that. Okay. So we've talked about action creating belief. Such an important concept when it comes to confidence, right? So we've also talked about small steps and small wins, creating big belief. And I think the reason why this conversation is unfolding the way it is is because we've lived it. We want others to experience it too. That, you know, we we've made lots of changes in our own lives, career-wise, personally, and we've just learned through every step. So if you're someone that's been kind of waiting to take that step or take that action, we want to encourage you to do it even today, as early as today, uh, to make progress. So, so we're gonna shift and talk a little bit about mindset, right? What are some things that you can do even starting today to create the mindset and start building this belief system in yourself that you have the confidence and trust to get things done, even if it's not gonna be perfectly. So, so showing up before you're ready, how do you do it, right? What mindset do you need to have? Do you want to start?

SPEAKER_01 23:44

Yeah, sure. It's it's funny. You know, I'm the no guy, the no guy in the family. My first answer when someone wants something or to ask something, I say nope.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

Yes, you are.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

That is just my natural response.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

Three times. You'll you'll say no three times, and then and then it's like, oh, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

Yeah, you and you and my mom think you've cracked the code to get a yes. It's very fun. The difference is when we're trying to build confidence, I actually think you need to do the opposite. I think you need to say yes.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

You need to say yes more.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

I love this. Yeah. So you're the yes guy.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

When it comes to opportunity and uh, you know, betting on yourself and betting on your future and seeking to achieve the goals or future goals you have, the only way to get there is yes.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Well said.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Right. And nobody's giving you your future. No one's giving you your trophy, your glory, right? Grind before glory. The only way we play the game is by saying yes. And so I think it's incredibly important that you know, where wherever it is, if if we're seeking, you know, some kind of personal goal or professional goal, when your boss or your team or coworkers at work give you an opportunity or have, you know, something available to you, you say yes. And when life presents something to you, if it seems as though it could be a way to get to your future goal, say yes.

SPEAKER_00 25:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

And and I think that is the opposite of living in fear, right? And and I said it early on in the beginning here, fear holds us back. Fear is almost life's way of saying no, right? Are you telling yourself no or accepting no? The only way things change is if you say yes.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

Well said. I love that. So I think giving yourself the opportunity to succeed. It's a gift. And saying yes is kind of the first step in that journey. So I love that you brought that up. I wanted to also offer a habit or a tip for those of you that don't already practice gratitude on a daily basis and taking a moment to think about all the things that you have to be grateful for and thankful for. Maybe just reflection on things that you've already done. I mean, just this conversation alone, a 20-minute conversation, thinking back on all the risks we've taken personally and professionally. I mean, I'm going to leave this conversation with even more confidence that whatever new thing comes at me today, I can say yes and try it because guess what? I've done it a hundred times before. So just thinking back, giving your moment your moment of silence, maybe in and considering, gosh, what's worked well? Or where have I failed, but also chosen to get up, right? So give yourself that moment of reflection because you never know what will come if you really focus on gratitude. You will get so lifted up and so filled and ready to to try something again. So so that would be something else I would offer. How about you?

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Uh I mean, you you said it beautifully. I I think that that absolutely is. I would also add to that. And where you have failed, where you maybe have not achieved what it was you hoped to achieve. The reality is this, and and we need the appropriate perspective. We're still alive, we still have another chance. There is still more to do. And if you took a chance and it didn't work out, like we talk about the failure rate for small business owners, right? Upwards of 50% or more after 10 years. You grew from that loss. And it doesn't always feel good, it typically doesn't. But man, there's evidence that you survived, and perhaps it was a big loss. But you made it through. You have another opportunity to continue to try again. And I just believe it's also incredibly important that when we when we take shots and we take risks and they don't work out, your journey, your life, your story is not over. You learn from it. You try not to repeat the same mistakes, right? We we say no rear view mirror living, you know, live with no regrets. Again, that doesn't mean you're allowed to do whatever you want. It just simply means that you look at your past, you keep it in its rightful place, you learn from it, and you grow and you say yes again.

SPEAKER_00 28:37

Yeah. So I've been waiting for the right episode to incorporate this quote, one of my favorite quotes. I actually have it in the house. I look at it often. I I really hope that the kids do too. I have to point it out to them, make sure that they see it, because sometimes you just pass by things and you forget that it's there. But there's a really popular inspirational quote by poet Aaron Hansen, and it's one of my absolute favorites, but it's so applicable here. What if I fall? Oh, but my darling, what if you fly? Right. So it's so popular. I know people have heard it before. If once I said it, I'm sure you're like, oh, I've heard I've heard of that. So that phrase emphasizes that while the fear of failure or falling, so to speak, in the poem is common, it should not prevent you from pursuing risks that lead to growth and success. Right. It's so simple, but it is just so spot on.

SPEAKER_01 29:34

No fear.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

No fear. So if this, hey, prompts you to go on Amazon and and or Etsy and look for it, I have it on a little metal plaque. And like I said, I look at it often. It's just something that when I need it and I see it, oh boy, does it just lift me up? So hopefully it does that for you too. Any final thoughts? Anything else that that you're prompted to reflect on before we we close?

SPEAKER_01 30:01

I I think it's just so important for us to really consider this life, our life. Nobody in their last days ever says, I wish I wouldn't have tried blank. That's not a that's not a regret most people have. What what you hear so often is the consideration of what wasn't tried and what wasn't attempted. You know, days are numbered. Know your purpose, build your life and anchor your life around that purpose. You know, stay resilient, but man, take a chance. Bet on yourself, say yes to something maybe you normally wouldn't. And I I just believe, again, whether you're whether it's a phenomenal success or feels like an epic failure or something in between, you don't lose from having confidence in who you are and trying to build yourself up and grow in a certain way. And so whatever it is that's that's keeping you from doing that, whatever voice it is, whether it's in our own heads or we feel we've got a track record of simply not winning or succeeding at something, or you know, the million other ways this world tries to knock us down and hold us down. We say it. Recognize the power you have to choose, to choose each of the values we talk about, to choose purpose, to choose yourself, to choose the future that you want. Say yes to something and see what happens.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:13

And grow from it no matter what the result.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

Yep. So last episode we said we were gonna focus on a few listener stories too, and I want to bring those in before we close because they're so relevant to this conversation. So just recently we had uh one dad and and one mom both bring up some parenting examples uh that they were facing and both teachable moments for themselves, but both what's so relevant to this conversation is both left them a little unsure, a little uncertain if the if the parenting approach they were taking was gonna set them and and even their kiddos up for success. And and I will say, shout out to to their vulnerability to to reach out to us and ask and say, hey, you know, listening to the podcast, I'm not sure if I approached this right. What do you think? And I'll say both of them nailed it. Both of them took the opportunities in front of them and just crushed it. So I'll speak to to the mom that kind of reached out to us about a kiddo that they they were they were looking to really lift up, right? There was an opportunity for them to lift them up. And and they just they just weren't, they weren't thinking about in that moment making everything perfect. They were just being present. And this is a mom that would typically strive for the absolute best of every circumstance and making everything just a hundred percent picture perfect. And in that moment, she didn't. And without getting into the details, I'm just gonna, she knows who she is. I'm gonna give her a shout out and say, Great job. Great job giving yourself grace and being present and focusing on your purpose because it paid off. And that's confidence that you're building to do that again and again. And to the dad who wasn't sure if he reprimanded correctly, you did. Great job just taking a step back and saying, I don't need to step in. He's got it. My kiddos got this well in hand. And every time we do that, every time we allow our kiddos to build that muscle of resilience, and every time we give ourselves grace to not have to be perfect in every circumstance, we remind ourselves what's most important. And we get that win and we build that confidence. So I just want to say thank you to all of our listeners who reach out on a regular basis and tell us how the podcast is resonating and where they're seeing success. We want to hear from you. We want to hear from all of you. So reach out to us on social, find us uh on our website. There's a contact form that you can use to connect with us if it's not going to be on social directly. Um, if you haven't bought a copy of your book, please do go out and buy your book today. And I'll say this: if you're waiting to feel confident, you're going to be waiting a very long time. Start before you're ready, move before it's perfect. Show up before you feel qualified because confidence isn't built in your mind, it's proven through your actions. And every time you show up, you prove to yourself that you can. That's how you become unshaken. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody have a great week. We're so glad you joined us today. If you found inspiration through today's episode, share it with a friend and make sure to follow so you don't miss what's ahead. Until next time, choose joy, regardless, in whatever comes your way. See you next week.