Killin It
Comedians London Brown, Justin Hires, & BT Kingsley converse with top people in entertainment and culture that are killing it in their life and career.
Killin It
BRANDON T. JACKSON
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Actor/Comedian, Brandon T. Jackson, tells untold story of which actor he replaced in Tropic Thunder, touring with Chris Brown, releasing his comedy special on Zeus network, why Beverly Hills Cop TV pilot wasn't picked up to series, becoming super religious, being discovered at the Laugh Factory after a comedian had a bad set, and more.
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Hey, I'm about to do this podcast. But um I'm I'm partner.
SPEAKER_01What's up, partner?
SPEAKER_04His name is Mark.
SPEAKER_01What's up, Mark? What's happening, bro? You know, just trying to be great out here.
unknownWhat we doing on that podcast, though, man.
SPEAKER_01Talking about big booty hoes. I'm drunk. We just talking about business and um and Brandon's career, you know, his journey. Okay. That's a beautiful thing, though.
SPEAKER_04Love you, bro.
SPEAKER_01We got a living legend up in here today. Man. Living. Living legend.
SPEAKER_03Living legend, bro. You a living legend, bro. Legend can mean two things. Go for it. It means you done.
SPEAKER_04You just still walking around? Or it could mean you, you know, because when I think of legend, I think of Dave Chappelle, you know. You better drop a special. Yeah. Yeah, so you know, I don't, I, you know, I just I I I love the um, you know, I see young, I see young cats, and they be like, hey, um.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we'll graduate it to.
SPEAKER_04We not like uh, because we'll okay, so Snoop is papy now then. Mike Eppers is papi. Yeah, grandpa.
SPEAKER_01I had somebody call me Sir the other day. I almost punched the in his throat. You mean sir? I'm like, we look about the same age. You're like, uh here, sir. First of all, welcome to another episode of Killin' It. You know what I'm saying? Uh-uh. We are your host, Justin Hotley. Lendon Brown. Meet you Kingsley. Um, I'm excited, man. I get excited anytime we get to really sit down with somebody that I feel like has really been killing it for a long time in the game. Brandon is my first, I would say, celebrity friend in Hollywood. Like, you know, when you move out here, you're like, he's a celebrity, he's on TV. You know what I'm saying? I used to go around to his crib when you was in North Hollywood. Yep. Um, yeah, man. So we we go way back, but I gotta give these credits. Everybody, every episode we don't give credits. They don't have enough to be listed on. Okay, but then there's certain the you, the Lamorns, there's certain people where it's like, I gotta list, I gotta list the credits. Okay. I got a list of credits, man. Rollbounce, Tropic Thunder, Percy Jackson, Wildin' Out, Big Mama's House 3, Lottery Ticket, Family Business New Orleans, and he got a new special right now on Zeus called Chest Out, the one and only, Brandon T. Jackson in the house.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. How you doing, bro? How you feeling? I feel uh I feel liberated. I feel great. I feel um like life is is is is obvious I'm optimistic. I'm I'm uh grinding per usual. You know, I think I'm trying to stay innovative, you know.
SPEAKER_01What what's making you feel liberated?
SPEAKER_04Like what has happened for you to feel liberated? I mean, you know, okay, example. So we got these conglomerations that's going on with Netflix, Warner Brothers. All this is just like, you know, my show got picked up for another season, you know. Uh Praise God. Yeah, but see, praise God. You'd be like, oh, praise God, we did it, right? Then they'd be like, the president of BET is fired. And they'd be like, oh, uh Paramount is buying, uh, Netflix is buying Warner Brothers. All this is going on, even though you got another season, you're waiting for these things to happen. This has nothing to do with you. Right. The Beverly Hills Cap thing had nothing to do with Mir Eddie. You know what I mean at the time. And it was literally bureaucracy of things that go on. So I I did a I did the math and ask. Like every time I have a series or something happens like that where I'm leading in, it's this bureaucracy thing that happens. I swear. So I'm like, you know what? I see what the Matrix is doing. Not to be deep, I'm like, okay, I see what the So it's like it causes it causes me to just just create and just do just do it, you know? And then you gotta deal with the algorithms and people not seeing it. Now with the special, that was done independently, and it was uh licensed to Zeus. So that was a BTJ Inc. Um Brandy Jackson Inc. a production. Making a brand, Brandy Jackson Inc. production. And as you saw, if you were seeing it, we splashed that everywhere. We blitzed it. Right. Yeah, I did. Y'all was like, what the hell?
SPEAKER_01It's funny and it looks great.
SPEAKER_04Thank you, man. Yeah. And I think it's a solid foundation for for what I want to do.
SPEAKER_00We gotta talk about the special. We might just let's start there. Okay. So first first of all, it looks amazing. BTJ Productions? Yeah, it it looks amazing. Shout out to Stony Pope. It looks amazing. You can you can even with uh uh if if BTJ productions is an independent production, I mean what the f yeah yeah I don't know, I don't know. The lines are for independent versus whoever Clagglomerate are getting very, very blurry.
SPEAKER_04Shout out to Stiller for that. Yeah. Ben Stiller is one of my film mentors. Like Tropic Thunder was one of those situations where I learned how to be a filmmaker. Right. And I've always wanted to, remember, we always say we need to do our own stuff. I always wanted to be a filmmaker. I always wanted to be what Tyler Perry was. I was like, if I could be Tyler Perry and Will Smith, yeah. I'm arguing right now with my producer about lenses because we're on the budget. I'm like, nah, man, we gotta get this. Like, I don't like, I don't like, I just I don't like bootleg looking productions, man. I just can't stand it. It bought like it's a pet peeve.
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean? Yeah, yes, and it's also hilarious. It feels like the jokes are like a buffet of all your favorite things. Anyone that knows you that wants to hear stuff from Reggie J, it's like you got them all in. It's like, oh yeah, what's up? Tropic Thunder. It's like, what was the decision to make it feel like that? And or is this the hour that you had been working on for a while?
SPEAKER_04Well, it was multiple things that's going on with that special. Um, actually, I had a whole nother material I wanted to do, and I was realizing like, Tom, I just can't come out and do a whole special and people haven't seen me for seven years. You know, even now, a lot of arguments on the blog is like, you know, they were like, so wait, like the haters was like, you know, whatever they were saying, and then the people that were backing is going, Tom out. We don't like them because we haven't seen them. Right. That didn't make no sense. No, no, no. That's what that was the it was a big chain of just arguments, like, and they people go back, first of all, because you got Z's and you got millennials. And the Z's and millennials got this kind of weird kind of back and forth online, if you notice it in the comment section. Like, we are the last Mohicans of what's great, I believe. And I think Z's want to be that, but they kind of have to do this kind of crazy thing to get the attention to go do that. Does that make sense? Like, I'm always reaching to be like Eddie, Will, Martin, and the greats, and like they're reaching to be us, but it's almost like we didn't have the footing because of the algorithms, and they learn the algorithms, so they had to be extra crazy. So it's kind of this, you know, weird social thing. But anyways, I'm saying that because I came, I I couldn't do the other material. I'm like, look, I've been gone for seven years, I went on a spiritual journey, and I had to remind people where I'm who I am and what I've done. So I I kind of just took an homage of all the movies I did and made a commercial in the first 22. You see what I'm saying? The first 22 minutes is just a big commercial. Who's Brandy Jackson? It's a branding piece. Yeah. Like almost like a reintroduction to Yangati. Yeah, it's like we haven't seen him. We got locks now. Who is it? I mean, I look totally different now from then. You know, I look more like I did back then than I did in the special. And um, at the time I was shooting family business, I didn't want to cut my hair. So I was like, you know, you know, we got we got we got to do this. We got I rented this place out. I got all my my crews, you know, got the audience, went online, said you want tickets, five dollar tickets to come see, a live taping, just kept running ads. We got the got the audience full, and then, you know, we did two shows and we rocked it out.
SPEAKER_01How many cameras did you use to shoot that? Like five. It's not that big. It looks so great. I I I'm gonna hit you up whenever I shoot mine. Yeah, yeah, I think that's how great it looked.
SPEAKER_04Well, I was trying to bring back the cinematic specials.
SPEAKER_02I agree. That's what I was gonna say. We it the way it moves is almost like um I kind of liken it to uh King's Kings of Comedy where just the camera just is just moving on that on the track and just it's it's it's it's cutting.
SPEAKER_04I would say Martin Lawrence you so crazy. Yep. It's moving to the pace of the jokes. Of the jokes. But people don't realize you gotta move your comedy. I can't stand pop ins. Me either. And you know what? Kevin learned a cool way with his his style of comedy, how to use the pop-in with the the timing. So when he goes, not he'd be like, like, uh that boom, it'd be like it pops. Leslie and them, they found his rhythm. So when he goes, uh uh, it pops to one thing. He's a popper. His comedy is poppy. Mine is laid back in a way where I'm telling a story going into characters, and this. And I slowed the pace down because um I used to be very like erratic and high pitch and fast and I'm like, yeah, you remember that. Yeah, oh yeah, I remember. And it's like I was there too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but with age, we start to slow it down.
SPEAKER_04No one's gonna watch it. Yeah, you know, no one's gonna watch. I watched myself on camera being like, what's up, man? It's like this rapid fire thing. And as comics, you got and as at my strong suit, everyone knows as an actor, you know, so I gotta put myself in situations like a one-man show to do stage work, you know. Commentary is good, but I'm noticing com commentary that doesn't hit as hard as when people see me going to something else. So that's kind of why I did it in the way where a cinematic film, if I did it to TV, it would've it wouldn't have, you know, we we we shut we shot back, boom, lance flare, boom, you know, side shot. It's going with the rhythm.
SPEAKER_02And the lighting was clean. It just it was just it was done well, man. Joker.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's where you had the herbal and the green kind of shit.
SPEAKER_00That's hilarious. You know what your face just said. Your face just said, it's out it exists, people are seeing it, and now I can tell you my inspiration. That scene in Joker when he's at the uh on the nighttime talk show. Yep. Yeah. Or in the clubs. Even in the clubs when he's doing the material.
SPEAKER_04Me and the dire me and the director, we came up with that. We was like, because we were trying to find what is the most cinematic way you can shoot a special without it being too, you know, I'm not gonna name anybody else's specials, but if you look at some people that's doing it, some of it is lit way too dark for, you know, skin tones or so we did browns and and the backlighting of uh, you know, it was just a joke, it was a joker with a lens a lot of lens flares with that. So I don't know where I'm gonna go next with it uh with Classy Rebel. Probably I'll do some what some film noir type vibes. Uh I'm writing Classy Rebel now, I gotta figure that one out.
SPEAKER_01I want to know before we get out the stand-up or the special, how long does Zeus has it for? Like, how long is that license for?
SPEAKER_04Am I allowed to say that? I don't know if I can say that. Can I say that? Yeah, why can't you? I mean, you don't have to. What my manager, can I not? No, it's so weird though, as a talent doing business. Now you like, you can't really. I mean, I could discuss it, but it's like I they got it for like a couple years. Okay.
SPEAKER_01So, I mean, because we we discussed some like business stuff on this show too, just so people can know, like, okay, they got it for two years, I own it, and then after two years, I could then shop it to another platform if I want to.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but you can. And I'm I'm just so like um um the whole licensing thing, it's it's it's the whole monetization of content now is just it's Did Lemmy diddy you?
SPEAKER_01Did he fucking no? No.
SPEAKER_04Like I done signed all your shit to me. No, no, no, no. Lemmy is very, very good to work with when it pertains. Like the image you guys see a lot on TV, it's a it's uh for him, it's it's kind of a uh facade. You know, I know Lemmy since we were like seven years old. You know what I mean? We're childhood friends. We both grew up in Detroit. The creator of Zeus, anybody wonder, yeah. We both grew up in Detroit. His dad and my dad, okay, here's his this is how deep it is. His dad owned the Christian television network. My dad's a pastor, my dad was the talent on his network. Oh, wow. That's Laird. Layer. So when it was time, when I came out to LA, I said, Let me come out to LA. I got a job for you. Come, he was fine. He used to work for me. I remember I would that's how long I've known you. I remember that. And then now he's a billionaire.
SPEAKER_05So he's doing something right.
SPEAKER_00He's doing something right, guys. But that, I mean, on that on that same note, the special does a lot of different things. One, it's hilarious. It shows you in this hilarious light as a stand-up comic for the people that are not in the know. Two, it's beautiful, and you're re-uh creating this the the visuals for what stand-up can be when it's shot correctly. Three, it's also innovative in the essence of it's on the Zeus network. Because this is the first one that they do, correct? This is the first special that they've ever done. First one ever did. Yeah, they this is not particularly a world that they uh live in, and but we know that they have a huge audience. Yeah. So what is the decision to end up going with Zeus and how does that I knew it was gonna be seen.
SPEAKER_04So, you know, Netflix gave me an offer for something. Um I won't talk about that too much because I definitely want to do business Netflix in the future also. But um Hulu told me they loved it, but you're get your numbers up, nigga. Pretty much.
SPEAKER_01Uh like social media? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, we were just talking about that. What's your analytics? We would just talk about that.
SPEAKER_04This looks amazing now. How many people are gonna watch this? So Hulu said that, but Netflix did it? Netflix is just, you know, they were they they're not even the they weren't in the business of doing any specials at the time. They're just done with them. Because it and Lemmy told me why as you gotta look at the the the platforms. I always look at the platforms business before I just talk about art. Because now we're in the business, we got kids to feed, we got things to do. So what problems with specials is that it's not it's not a series. It's one hit, people go, oh yeah, that was cool, and they go out. Yeah. You want to keep people on the platform as long as possible, engaging. That's why some of his other IPs do well. I think what he was doing for this was a commercial piece for Zeus to show that we also have, you know, we're expanding our library, stay tuned. But to be honest, you would have to have a series of comedians, a series of aggregated people. Um, hopefully that's what we're gonna work on, that we can, you know, stick in into that that um formula. But his audience is based, is is is is female based in um 18 to 35 that likes loud loud material. You know, are they gonna sit down and watch, you know, male comics do comedy without fights and fighting over a girl or relationship stuff.
SPEAKER_01So we need to create a a stand-up series with female comics fighting.
SPEAKER_04Or it would be like, let's let the baddies stand-up competition. That's what they would want to do. I mean, or you know, but some of that stuff don't work because the baddies like to interact with the baddies, and it's just a lot of I mean, I'm not I'm not really you know, I'm not trying to tell anybody how to do their programming over there, so but I would I would say that that he's found a niche and an audience that really are fanatical about what they love, and that's that that's what anybody wanna find in comedy. And I mean live comedy is I feel like it's kind of dying.
SPEAKER_01You think I don't think live comedy is dying.
SPEAKER_04I mean like not not like that, how to explain it. Like the It's tough to the place to put it or the like there where are we where's where's HBO and Devstack?
SPEAKER_01With that, yeah. You know, this is what I want to talk about, man, because I've seen other than your childhood, I've seen every version of Brandon T. Jackson. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because I came out here, you had just finished filming Tropic Thunder. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when I moved out here. I remember you were showing me pictures from set. He's like, yeah, I got this movie coming out, Trop Thunder. Like, oh shit, Robert Daddy Jr. You know what I'm saying? Before we get in, I want to discuss Tropic Thunder. I want to talk about all of that. But this is what I want to know. You came back into acting, right? What made you become super religious? And then what was the decision to come back into the entertainment business? But first, what was the decision to go? It sparked it.
SPEAKER_04I was going through a court case with my daughter's mother, and I got so mad because I kept losing. Like, you know what I mean? Like, Tyrese is not crying for no reason. That I just didn't do it on the internet. No, for real. It's true. Like it's crazy. I literally want to do a documentary about this, you know what I mean? But the the court system and different things is so ridiculous. So I got so upset that I started to say, what is the higher order? I'm like, God, I remember I was walking around with a Bible at child at uh at the at the court, like in the name of Jesus, I bind these demonic child support spirits guy. I was wild in there. You see, and it's all Latino and black men in there. So I'm like, this is so, this is set up. Like, come on, like in a video game, you're going to video game, the program is okay, let's get a bunch of like how how is it all Latino and black men? You know, I saw I saw Kel Mitchell in there. Hey man, look, you're going to the audition. We leave audition and we in court. Like, hey man, did you get it?
SPEAKER_00You trying to see your baby, huh? Yeah, yeah, me too, man. For real.
SPEAKER_04Dead ass. And we it's like, and it became this program, and this is a program, you know, this is not even real. So I was like, gotta be something higher. So I started getting into like, you know, universal law and the law, statutory law versus, you know, it's just a lot. I didn't want to get too deep, but what is the law that allows this bullshit to happen? And I started learning the uh uh certain laws that spiritual laws that then took me into um another uh I won't say another, but if you were religious or you understand uh Christ, what Christ was teaching the spirit of the law and the legalistics of the law is what kinds what what ties us up in America. The legal the legalese. You know what I mean? You read all that stuff, you're like, what is this even saying? You ever see that dude that was uh that that the dude uh double murder, what's his name? The dude uh that that um he represented himself in in court. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I'm not playing with y'all, man.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah. I'm not playing with y'all today. I've done thinking about it. I was like, bro, that's how you end up if you if you don't know the their their system. And you did you I've seen brothers be self-defense, like just trying to, you know, look younger. I'm trying to say what they like, okay. Uh that that motion them to shut the fuck up. You know what I mean? So look, look, look, look. Look who call him why I'm talking.
SPEAKER_00What up, man? It's your boy BT Kings, the man. Killing the pod is here. Been a great time, man. Subscribe to the page. You here?
SPEAKER_01Press that button, uh, attorney. My attorney calling. That's hilarious. Hold on, hold on. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04The Matrix. Hey, Adam. No, I'm on a podcast right now. That's crazy because we're literally talking about you, or not you, but law and the lawyers in life on this podcast. And then you call. He's like, you better be saying allegedly, you might be saying that.
SPEAKER_01Nothing like that. I'll sue your black ass. It's good stuff. I'll sue your black ass right now. He's on the phone with his lawyer. Anyone that's listening on audio.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. I got you. I got you. No, we're not. No, you just call when you I only answer because you uh we were literally talking about like Well, why'd you play the fucking club, Brandon, if you couldn't speak to me?
SPEAKER_01Anyway, goddamn lawyer. That's it.
SPEAKER_00I'll call you in a minute. It's fun with me, buddy. You're fired. It's a unique uh situation because I I know, one, we know that the system is set up to break up the black family. Two, we uh we know that they want to that everything's in on the other side's favor for child support and making you even something the baby ain't yours, but you was there close enough that you sniffed the birth certificate. So you do it's like but as soon as you say, I want to see my child, I want to spend time with my child, now it's like, wait, but y'all want I I I want to be present. Uh me and her aren't whatever, but I want to be present, so why is this so easy? Yeah, right. Great how to do it. Here we go. We got one of those, this guy wants to be a father.
SPEAKER_04No, they they and they take advantage of, oh, he wants to be a father. Okay, I don't want to be no father. They take advantage of that. So you damn if you do, you damn if you don't.
SPEAKER_01So basically you said the law was so messed up for you to try to get your like that's what turned you to become super religious.
SPEAKER_04That went into other laws of what the law is and the spiritual law, and then I started getting into understanding it, which I don't want to talk about the spirituality of what I'm what I was I mean spirituality, the law, what I was in, the only reason why the the internet spins what you say, not even what you say, is like they don't understand the level, and the people that understand and know what I'm talking about know what I'm saying, but people that don't understand what I'm saying, when you speak law, you know, there's one section of the Bible that's originally called the law. So I went into the story, went into studying that, and I was thinking that, you know, if if if that is the true law of the realm, then I I need to follow this to get over the law of what they're doing. So God can give me favor into this, and then I just went into more in depth.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you had to go in a uh rabbit hole to to find the answers you needed. Yeah, and then what was the
SPEAKER_01Moment when you said fuck the law. Nah, you didn't say fuck the law. I mean fuck the law. But you were like, fuck all this.
SPEAKER_04I fucking I gotta get back on TV. The law wasn't paying no bills. I was broke as fuck. But I I I I was only bro that's not the truth. It's like I didn't use wisdom on how I went about what I did, I would say. It's not it's not just a the money situation. That was a big factor of going, you know what, I gotta get back to work because you know, preaching to the choir on a farm while your kids are in LA, right, and your your your wife is lost and don't know what's going on, and you got a uh a sheet on talking about if that was be the like like nigga go to work. You know what I mean? If that was be the Yeah, I'm like I'm over here, and then and it's like we need food. That was needed food. Kill thy thy swine, like I don't you know, like come on, man, it's too much. I wish way too much, and I and I can admit that because when I'm passionate about something that's I I feel is true, I go fully in on it. Yeah, and that's one thing I learned balance, and I don't think any of brothers and sisters that understand the spirituality is just like you can't tell someone to leave everything unless we're all leaving everything. That's my issue. Yeah. Like you can't say leave Babylon and come over here, but donate the money here from Babylon with the baby. Right, right, right, right. You told me to leave my job. Right, right, right. And that's where the Akmach Badak story came in. It's the mentality of the of the Leave Babylon mentality. Now we're talking about spiritually, are we talking about, but no, they mean like physically leave it and come into their fold to teach more people to leave it. But then you come into this problem of niggas don't want to farm. Yeah. Niggas don't want to cut goats and sheep and I said, but what about the TV? How about TV? How am I gonna get on Instagram? Right.
SPEAKER_00Where's my PlayStation?
SPEAKER_04Right. Cause you really want to be that like there was communities where the Amish are really doing that. Like all these spiritual leaders that the kingdom is here now, and all this stuff's going on, like you're still on the internet. And when people say, then I really want to make this very clear. I hope you clip this right here. For everybody that's in that spirituality understanding of God, and I believe it is to be true what I'm saying, but the people that misunderstand things are the same. So let me give you this real quick. Everything you put out on the internet is owned by the same people you say you don't like. Right. Everything, I want y'all to see this. Everything, every dollar you spend is owned by the same people you say you don't like. Everything you say, so so when y'all DMing me about, rather you have gone back into the world, you are in the world the same way using the same shit. Instead of me a message all I did. You and IG sending me a message about how I'm in the world. What's the difference from me being on, if I were to put my special on Zeus, is that in the world? No, it's because it looks good. Right, right. It's like everything but God has to look bootleg, you know what I mean, and and whack. So things look shiny, it looks great, it's a piece of art. And the art base is like, oh, he's the devil.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you such a you such a creative man because in the special you have images that that was in the marketing and in the special of like you being lost in the desert. In the desert. In the desert. It's like jazz. That shit real. I was.
SPEAKER_02Yo, so with going through those kind of traumatic moments, when you're looking for comfort, who you like, who you call? Who's first person? No, I couldn't call nobody.
SPEAKER_04I called Mahamishama, I called Khachba Blachek, and Mabacha, whatever the name is.
SPEAKER_01Sound like I need real names. No.
SPEAKER_04No, I'm just saying, like, it becomes you call the you call a community of your favorite community. They'll tell you, you need to do this. You call your wife, she black this. I really only call him God at this point. You feel like you couldn't talk to your dad? Your dad a pastor? Not at the time, because I was telling him he was a devil. So, so I couldn't call him. Leave the devil. Give me$500, Dad, please. So at the time. Not at the time. I couldn't. I was preaching against what he was preaching against. You know, it was everything I was alone. I was fully alone. I was preaching against everybody. I was preaching against Hollywood, preaching against the church, preaching against the family. It's like then you're like by yourself, like, what are you waiting for? So how did you come, how did you come around if you were how what God was like, nigga, what are you doing? You know, it was like the spirit was talking to you, like, okay. And I think it was a bigger humbling lesson or something. God was trying to teach me something. I it it goes with me every day on what's the truth of what um I was learning or the the the actual wizard of oz of this is already inside of you thing. I think it was one of those lessons, but I don't know, man. I got to a point where I kind of was like, what the fuck am I doing? You know, like what like what are we doing here? Like what is the what is the oh I know what it was. I I I challenged the whole situation. Because I if we're gonna go if we're gonna go full out, we gotta go full out. Right, right. Alright. So this is towards the end of when I kind of woke up out of being woke, but I didn't go back to sleep, but I understood that there's there's there's extremism to everything. So we built a nation, and uh you know it's not that hard to like to have a nation. You know that, right? It's not like You said to build a cult? What do you mean? No, a nation. See, see, no, no, seriously. Like it's it's funny.
SPEAKER_01I'm the ratchet nigga on the show. No, I love it.
SPEAKER_04No, no, I love it. No, that's I like that perspective. Most people don't understand. You could actually just really like file a nation for it to be recognized. Right. Like legally. Yeah, yeah. I mean, how does a nation become a nation? I don't know. Let's ask, how does a nation become a nation?
SPEAKER_00I don't know. My brain went anybody. My brain literally, my brain literally went. This is how dumb I am. My brain went, nation, a domination. That's a fucking checked out video.
SPEAKER_01I had to spell a Wi-Fi password for him yesterday. I love it. He may not be the best person that has, but I don't know. I would think you had to go file documents.
SPEAKER_04We had to learn, we're here to get this lesson from you. I mean, I really, you know, I just don't want to get into it.
SPEAKER_01If you say it, you don't know either. No, I do know. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_04Uh so to be a nation, it's all these legalese and things that you gotta do, learn and you gotta like, but you gotta be recognized by other nations. Yes. To really be a nation. So in order to be recognized, you can have, you know, if certain African countries recognize you, then it's like but what value do you bring to the earth being another nation? Like there's mad nations that you guys never heard but uh heard of. And they could be small nations. There's nations of two, three thousand people, you know, that really have their own land, they have their own currency. You know, what what what the fact that we don't even understand how to become a nation as black people. You ask a white guy, how did this nation start, how can how did America start? You guys know this? We're talking post-13 colonies after they come over? I'm talking about the sh the stuff we got right now with all this stuff, we learned in history class. Bunch of motherfuckers got together and wrote up an agreement. Yeah. Declaration of independence, you know, and they declared that they were a nation. And from there on they just kept declaring it and it became a nation. Yeah. It's that simple.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know. So with that, I was rounding up a lot of the brothers in the spirituality to declare that we're a nation. Which they will say we're a nation, but then they won't be a nation. Because Christ gotta come back or some other stuff. And people argue that, and then you're trying to do the things that God is doing, and this, but it's this is actually a simple thing that Christ already's told us to do was to love our neighbor as I love ourselves. So we put a currency called love, kingdom currency, love currency.
SPEAKER_01I remember that.
SPEAKER_04And it was easy to, and it wouldn't affect the American dollar. It actually was a genius idea. It actually would stimulate the economy and and the economy here in both nations. Yeah. So when I realized niggas want to be slaves, I was like, you know what? I'm gonna I don't care anymore. I'm like, they want like you can't, you you you want to preach all day. I could, you know what I mean? It's like it's dumb. Like if we're gonna do this, let's do it. I hate fake revolutions.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, if we're gonna do the revolution, do it. You was you was all the way here.
SPEAKER_04You was in you was about that life. Bro, if we're gonna be in the revolution, then let's do it. Or we're not are we not doing this? Yeah, nigga, you should have told me we're not doing a real revolution.
SPEAKER_01I wouldn't went back to work. I would say this, your heart was in the right place. And I didn't know it was it came from like pure intention. Um everything that you was doing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. So I I saw that. What you got? The way it feels for me is it didn't take I'm not gonna say it didn't take a lot to get you there. I'm saying you had a very, very unique perspective because you were a high-level star. I'm still a star. You can't unbe a star. Absolutely. But I'm proud of you had to say about that later, but yeah, yeah. You you had so much success very early in your career. Your perspective is different than most people different than a lot of people that's ever worked that walk this earth. Yeah. Um, how was that early on journey? Those first things that happened, the first credits of first made when just just showing up Traffic Dungeons, like what is that energy like when you're first killing it?
SPEAKER_04It's like I was just gone, bro. I didn't even I thought it was normal. Yeah. Like, this is where I belong. I'm like, okay. Like I I I I could I think that subconsciously, if I really want to do that again, I could do it. I don't know if I I think I think sp I don't know if I really want that again anymore. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. I want pieces of it. And then I don't want to get I I don't want to just be um like I've been famous since I was 19. So fame doesn't drive me anymore. Uh I some art the art drives me. Sometimes I look at films like, dang, that shit is hot. You know, uh, whatever. Um but you I'm just going, bro. I'm like, okay, now I need to work with Martin. Okay, now I need to work with Eddie. Now I need to work listen, this is what I am. I'm a hybrid of this and that. Let's make it happen. Let's work it.
SPEAKER_02What do you think has turned you away from that?
SPEAKER_04I don't thirst for for something fully that man can give me and control me by. I mean, I love art, but you're not gonna like don't control me with with you know the whole thing. I mean, it's it's it's it's like the shiny ball doesn't really it's not appealing that much.
SPEAKER_00So many things happen in it I I won't say in a shorter period of time, but so many things happen. When you were on fire, you you were on fire. You know what I'm saying? And and obviously you still on fire, you're still Brandy Jackson, you take the breakfast. No, I don't take the break, but uh but studio fire. Yeah. So I don't from the outside looking in, I can't even understand how things happen between Percy Jackson, Lottery Dick. It's like how do all these things happen? Like, what's the secret? What happens first?
SPEAKER_01But it started with laugh at it, right? Laugh at it, please. Oh, yeah, tell that story, bro.
SPEAKER_04I'm about to run again. Watch what I'll do. I'm about to, y'all, I'm about to run. I'm just when I flash. Just to be clear, for me, you're still up there. Seeing you again, like I I we blitzed the damn internet with the specials, like pow, pow, pow, pow. And it went away. Like, it's a button, you know what I mean? That we could just be like, okay, we got everything, let's move it. Let's let's let's let's let's dispatch it out in that way. Um, you know, in and being innovative is always, you know, my thing. I try to stay, I try not to go too innovative where you get lost with with with the the people, but um, bro, I was just running, man. I I get these things where I just go. I really don't even think. I just I it's like a feeling, I just run and go. And when I get that feeling, it kind of, you know, the universe, or what do you call the the wherever whatever realm we in catches up and just there's residuals. So so if you would see it in order, it would be uh uh Laugh Factory, Roll Bounce, Laugh Factory, Chocolate Sunday, right?
SPEAKER_01Chocolate Sunday. We had an amazing set. Somebody's seen you.
SPEAKER_04Somebody saw me sign a CAA. Then you have Roll Bounce.
SPEAKER_00Oh, wow. Yep. Okay, and that and we we talked to Cleo about that cast, and it was like, God, that's a that's a lot.
SPEAKER_01Well, I did have a question for you because we had Cleo Thomas on from Roll Bounce, and we were just saying how stacked that cast was with great talent. And my question was who got the most ass on set? I think me and Bowell. Yeah, yeah, Bow, okay. I ain't gonna lie, can we even say that now? I said Wesley Jonathan. I said I said he might have been sniping them off on the low. He was, definitely. He definitely was.
SPEAKER_03He definitely was.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, oh I know, because I I was saying he was before the Michael B. Jordan Creed body. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he was the first like young black body that was like, god damn, this nigga is.
SPEAKER_00Then you had Bao and all his hip hop standards, you had you and all your comedy standards. I was a new guy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. New funny one? This new guy. Yeah, I was a new guy, a new face. Okay, so Rollbounce and then In Between Chris Brown tour. Hosted that for like two years. I remember that. Chris Brown, uh the millennial tours. Oh, wow. Yeah, uh franchise boys, Lil Wayne, uh T Pain. That's how I met T-Pay. You got it, you got Neo. Any crazy tour stories? Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_05Wait, which what?
SPEAKER_04I can't remember that shit. I don't know, bro. I that's a blurt. We just on the bus and then I mean, I mean, I I could say something, but I won't because Chris Brown is one of my uh good friends, and um I just would. But it was it, you know, I just I was there when the the you know the inception of Rihanna and Chris was happening. I was there watching it like you know happen. Oh shit, that that's a girl from Ponda Replay. Why she on the bus, you know? Oh shit, they about to start. Are they dating now? You know, are you on music together? So I I've seen a lot of like the that kind of you know, 23 City tour on a bus. My bunk was right there, Chris Brown was in the back, the bunk, and he's like there's a if you're on a bus, you got the back suite and you got the so he had the back suite, he'd be making music, and I remember I I was like, what you gonna do? Because Omarion was the one back then. And he was like, I was like, what you gonna do? Cause you got served and you know right. I said, what you gonna do if Omarion uh uh starts, I forgot what I said, starts this. He's I said, Omarion, what you have some I said something like, what you gonna do about Marion's dancing? He said, I'm just gonna dance harder. I was like, what you gonna do about this? He's like, I'm just gonna do it better. He just kept, he just kept saying, I was like, I was like, what you gonna do about so I remember having this conversation. We was on the side of the stage, he was singing. I'm like, he's like I'm just gonna do it better, I'm just gonna do everything better. I'm like, 20 years later, I'm like, nigga, that's what I'm saying. I'm like delivered. I never forget that. I never forget when Chris Brown flipped off the damn stage. That's when I knew this shit was crazy. Nigga, we was at a baseball field. This is when, see, this is when he was, and this is the runner tour. I was on the run it tour. Yeah. So this one Run It was out. We was doing House of Blues. I've been on three tours with Chris. The House of Blues first tour, up close and personal, and I forgot the other the name of it. But I was the their comedian for the tour. I would get everybody. And that was the first time Chris Brown seen a comedian. Because he was young. He was like 15, 16. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I would remake his songs because it was a young crowd. I would remake his songs and do um parody versions of his songs and do stand-up and Jones and people. Everybody would love it. Crazy. And then, you know, um Chris would uh, it's like he would just, I mean, it it'd be he would go back and watch the tapes and do it better, better, better. Oh man, this motherfucker's a beast. We was at a baseball field, man, and the stage was probably I ain't gonna lie, bro. Like y'all can't see it on the camera, but y'all see how high I'm looking up. I'm gonna say the stage was probably that high up, but we had to look up. This this bro, man, he flipped off the stage with the Jesus flip. The Jesus flip.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Straight leg. This is this is a 17-year-old Chris Brown. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, this nigga cold. I was like, we're fucked, bro. I can't top this. Because back in the day, you know, we would just try to top people's celebrity. Yeah. When you're young, you're like, you're not a singer, but I could be one because I'm, you know, we just start doing songs and being, that's the ego in us, be like, you know, we're trying different things and you start measuring people up. It's like, if he danced better than me, if he sings better than me, he's gonna get all the movie roles. If he you start to think, you know, we're young, you know, and then it's like nobody can top this dude. Like, he light skinned, he's taller than me, he can sing, he can dance. Yeah. I was like, yeah, as a rap, I gotta get I gotta stick to these damn jokes because this nigga's about to say. But then he was funny too. He was funny. But he's not your level funny. No, no, I mean, uh off man. Oh, off camera. Take off that, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's true. I have no, I seen him on the games and shit like that.
SPEAKER_00He's saying, T Pain is funny too. T Pain is funny. I ended up randomly on Call of Duty, end up like playing with Chris hella randomly. Yeah, or I play Call of Duty all the time. And me and my homeboys are playing, and one of my dogs is really good, uh, Nick Bank shot. And it was like a trickle down, and he would just like in our lobby, it was like, yeah, Breezy's finna jump on. It was like, and it literally says Breezy. I was like, that's Chris Fucking Brown. And every now and then he'd unmute and you'd hear songs in the background. But when we'd be playing, yeah, he would like just be talking and talking shit, and the shit would be hilarious.
SPEAKER_01Because I see him and Jackie Long be playing. Jackie Long started posting. Jackie was in there too, yeah. Yeah, he started posting.
SPEAKER_04Streaming and playing? Yeah. I'm not the only one that when do y'all have time to play video games?
SPEAKER_01When they got as much, when he got as much money as he got, is whenever he's not performing. He can do whatever the hell he wants. A little down season. Financial freedom is the real freedom.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it is the freedom because he about to say he got kids. I got kids too. Yeah, listen, bro. I've been trying to play. Every time I play, it's like, I got shit to do. I gotta hustle.
SPEAKER_01Man, I wanted to ask you this, man. Tropic Thunder, bruh. We got have you have you ever told the story? Maybe you have. I haven't seen all your interviews, but you know, I keep up with you. Yeah. Have you ever told like the behind the scenes story of how you got Tropic Thunder? Because I think a lot of people know Most Deaf originally had that role. I don't tell anybody that, but he said it first. I've heard that on the Yeah, yeah, I've heard that.
SPEAKER_04I never said that either. No, you I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I don't remember ever saying that. Oh. I'm just saying Most Def did alright, okay. He's doing okay. But how I got a movie, I'll I'll say mine. I was the understudy of uh I actually didn't get the role.
SPEAKER_04I was number two. And then um I I don't know. It was the time where Dave Chappelle was going through all his stuff and Most Def and them were like trying to, they were hanging out. Became like a, you know.
SPEAKER_02Here we tell Live, I think, them three.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they were, you know, floating into the the rebelness of that we all do in this industry, and we realized, oh shoot, get back to work, nigga. So um what happened with that was uh I I auditioned probably like 18 times for Ben Stiller. Just kept auditioning. He was like it was something not right. I'm like, oh I mean, do I gotta party? Bring it back in. Do it this way, do it that way, do it this way, do it that way. Ben Stiller's a dr he drills you. I got a t-shirt that says, I survived Ben Stiller's uh comedy death camp. He has a comedy death camp. Like you're it's the highest level of drill that I've ever seen in filmmaking. It's like it's like sp it's like Spielberg with with um with comedy. Because he shoots it like a drama, but it's funny. And he wants it a certain way and he sees it and it's like you gotta hit it. So I I can't thinking back on how challenging that was, I I can't like I can't believe I even got through that. But um I just kept going and never like you didn't get the role, you were too young. And I kept saying, Man, Soldier Boy's rapper, like, you know, like he could be a young rapper, so you don't match up well with you look too young according to with with Ben Stiller, all these guys, you just too young. And I was like, I forget it. And then good old God. Yeah, you know, allowed most deaf to show up late one day to a table read. And they got that call. I was like, yeah, man. I I was I can't I think it back at it. That was crazy. I got a call. I was in I was in Ralph's getting ramen noodles. I was broke as hell trying to figure it out. And Ben still, hey Brandon T. Jackson, we got we got Ben Still, we got stills on for you. Hey Brandon, we're hair explosion. In the background. So they were already filming. They were already filming. Oh wow. My first day, I had to a screen test with costumes here. They rushed me to the screen test at at Paramount Universal. Even though it's Paramount Film, Universal, I think we were using there a lot. Rush there, had to put all the stuff on. I I still got those pictures too. Do all the pictures at the Senator that Ben Stiller would tell them. There was no Zoom back then. They would just call, say no, switch that, switch that. They would email the pictures over and all of that. So I'm just in costumes, different costumes for, you know, for a week and it's just a doing screen tests and like, you know, and then I fly in. And where'd you fly to? Hawaii. Okay. And I flew to Hawaii like like three days later, bro. And I was in, I was, I was shooting that scene. Wow. The opening scene where I'm like, uh it's Brooklyn motherfucker. Or whatever I said. I'm saying that shit. I think that's right. Yeah. And I've never been on any stunt work. I was I will never forget how nervous I was to uh I'm like that's all all instinct. I don't know what camera, what, anything is. Oh, wow. Bro, it was explosion. That shit was real. They was exploding. That wasn't with no damn CGI. It was like a little bit, but they were blowing stunts, bodies flying up. So you have to hit the cues. So Ben's like, when that body flies up, you drag. No, it's crazy. Q it's like a stage. Yeah, you can't fuck that up. You can't fuck it up because that's that's that's a whole damn setup.
SPEAKER_01Setup. And they got it started all over again. That's time.
SPEAKER_04Money, money is time. Money is time. So it's like if you don't, if this body flies up and you're not at that mark while saying your lines, nigga, I was rehearsing every night, every night, every night, all night, every night. I was drilling, like, okay, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this, I'm just okay, I'm gonna do this. Nigga, you get there, that shit is that's all instinct. Nothing I thought about that I said I was gonna do. Wow. I just went instinct. That that whole uh he be bagging tag before he, that shit I was doing, I was carrying uh whatever the dead dude, and then uh I was acting like I think that's one thing he laughed when I was overplaying, that really got his attention in audition. The cigarette wiggling, yeah. Wiggling a cigarette, and I did an audition. Okay, and I overdid the um and in the movie I was overdoing this black 60s accent because we were supposed to be in a in a apocalypse now type film. Yeah. So I look at apocalypse now type films and I overextended, exaggerate how black people talk back then. Right. He'd be a gucciole motherfucker. Come on now. Like the extra bullshit. Right. You know, and it's like satire, so you can go on the line of realism and exaggerate it. I love satire. Yeah. So it's like, because it's like, what the fuck are we doing? So, um, you know, is that and then I the whole booty sweat thing, uh, I did that in the audition where I would I knew there was cameras there, so I was doing a plug for my Sirac. I mean, I oops says a Sirac.
SPEAKER_01Nigga, somewhere in the world right now, Diddy butthole got moist. Oh my god. Too much. I know. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_04No, I'm saying is, you know, it's that's I think that was placed on product placement. Was he the inspiration? I think that I do think that a lot of a lot of rappers in that was the inspiration for it was like a conglomerate of that. And it's kind of like an archetype of of of uh that that caricature of of a of an actor. I mean of a of a rapper mogul in the movie. Was that a lie? I'm sorry. No, no, no. That was beautiful.
SPEAKER_00Uh I mean, and now coming off when now going into how different is that for lottery to go.
SPEAKER_04You cut back to me like this.
SPEAKER_00Put the shades on.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so cut to you on this, you cut back to me on like this. That was some nice shades.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that was ray bands too.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I got my my other ones, my Dior's in the car. I just love like that, that old style filmmaking back in the day where the guys were in the ray bands and they're they're churning it in the old like film noir way. We like crossing legs in the shit. We like crossing legs. No, that that old style, like, yes, I just did a picture last, you know. I love that shit. So, anyways. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Inside the killing the studio.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so in my creative mode, I kind of wear raid bands when I'm when I'm seeing pictures, you know what I mean? I'm I'm I'm writing a lot. I wrote like like 20 movies uh yesterday, like two days ago. Sheesh. You sound like Cat Williams, nigga. You wrong stuff.
SPEAKER_03You wrote 20 movies yesterday? Yeah.
SPEAKER_04We said two days ago, right? No, I'm I'm right. So and it's not chat either. What type of movies are these? They're shorts, though. Okay. So. Oh, that makes sense. I got one, man, called Tub Boss, man. Y'all gotta be in one of y'all gotta be. You could be you could be Tub Boss.
SPEAKER_02You look like a Tub Boss. He just asked, who'd you tell? Real? Yeah. You said if you got a spot, here goes your spot. Let me read.
SPEAKER_01Let me read. Tub boss, what's that about? Can't you say it? Yeah, I can say that part. Yeah, you need to know. No, we can't have him in anything.
SPEAKER_02As his representatives.
SPEAKER_01As his representatives, yeah. This is killing it.
SPEAKER_04So doing shit. Tub boss, this is dub ass shit. Sub bosses, you never see his face, really. You see his beard, you see everything about sunglasses. We gotta see. No joking. You might see shadows of him. We gotta see. But he's just he's in the tub. The whole series, bro. Shit crazy. That nigga making plays. Yo, me, me at on. Hold on. That's how I write. I write his own. I do a stand-up and then write it like I do stand-up with my my movies and then I write it in the uh in the film and see if it works. But this nigga's just like this, like, you know, it opens up, you see him. You know, you he probably pan down, boom. You see, see you see what he watching on the news, you know, come down, the phone, close on the phone, boom. You know, he called a call, boom. Where y'all at? Uh this is what I need y'all to do. There's a library. On 33rd Street. The third book. Got three. The code is three, three, three. I need you bring that brick to me. Don't fuck it up. Right? So, like a like a you could be either two niggas, give me the tub boss. If it's two niggas in a tub, I'm out. No, fuck it up.
SPEAKER_03Okay. This is like the thought.
SPEAKER_04Listen, uh. He's throwing plays out, right? So he cuts to the two henchmen. Okay, got it. They some fucked up henchmen. They fuck up everything. I want two comedians, man. Like, two comedians that just fucking shit. Like, what he say? He said three, three, like, fuck. Like, and then this nigga start, like, start shit start happening around them where they they almost almost about to get fucking killed by this nigga. Cause shit that happens that throws him off the mission. He in the tub.
SPEAKER_03That nigga in the motherfucker, he never seen this nigga.
SPEAKER_00Like the like Inspector Gadget, like the ducky.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. That's the that exactly. That is exactly what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_00As I mean's cat. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03He got a rubber ducky. Never see this nigga. Anything. It's off. This type of shit is off. Bubbles? Can we have bubbles? Whatever. You don't see this nigga.
SPEAKER_00You ain't gave me the bubble. No, you see. You just a dick in the tub without the bubbles.
SPEAKER_04You see, you see the rings. Okay. You see the gold. You see the whatever, but the comedy gonna come in was with the henchman. He's very serious. So if your if your ass is getting shot up or somebody is shooting around you, you know the tub, you're gonna fuck, fuck up what the tub ball said to do. So every episode, he's just sending niggas on these missions and they fucking them up. Do he ever get out of the tub? Never get out the goddamn. You see him get in the tub.
SPEAKER_03You see the ladies watching him, you see the ladies, the hot strippers. All his women now.
SPEAKER_01We got some strippers. Bro, he just, bro, he Now are you gonna pay him an additional fee for him having uh prune body?
SPEAKER_03He could be one henchman.
SPEAKER_01He gonna get prunes though.
SPEAKER_00When you said the strippers now would've been the tub boss.
SPEAKER_03I was I was like, Well look, think about this, think about this.
SPEAKER_04If you watching a short and it engages you, you're like, what's this nigga, what's going on with this tub boss shit? Like it's called Tub Boss, right? Oh, yeah. It ain't it ain't quite tubi at all. Because it's so cinematically made. It's tubby. It's tubby, right? It's so cinema, it's so cinematically made, but when you get engaged in this shit, now you now you now you involved in this fucking wormhole.
SPEAKER_01What happened? I know people watching this show are like, what the fu what happens when someone doesn't carry out the mission? Like, what does Tub Boss do as their consequence? Do he splash in the top? Exactly.
SPEAKER_04Exactly. That's why you watch it.
SPEAKER_01You niggas killed again!
SPEAKER_04No, think about that. You asked, you you literally fell into my trap. Okay. Psychologically. Okay. What happens if these niggas don't do what he says?
SPEAKER_02So it's a series of these guys.
SPEAKER_01Oh, because it's a micro, it's a mini-drama. So then next episode, we see 399.
SPEAKER_0325, nigga, Tan and You show up as just two more Henri, we don't know what happened to the next one.
SPEAKER_00We never know. Exactly. What you got, Lady? You got you got something less?
SPEAKER_02See what I'm saying? My question was to you, um, obviously you're in your creative flow, resume extensive. When was the first spark of like, yo, this is what I want to do? As opposed to, you know, and nothing wrong with these jobs, as opposed to being a plumber or the lawyer. When it was when was like, yo, entertainment, this is my voice.
SPEAKER_04I remember the first day I wanted to be a stand-up comic, because I wanted to be a stand-up comic before I wanted to be an actor. I was doing both in high school and in middle school. Um, I'd started stand-up when I was 14 at a church competition that my dad did a youth night, and I was always funny. I was I keep my my kids, my my family up at at night just making them laugh, and then I was like, you know what? But my dad was a preacher, still is to this day, and I would watch him like be funny on the mic. I'm like, I wanna like preach and talk in front of people, but I don't want to preach. I wanna do I remember looking at the mic and my church, and it was like on a mic stand. I was like, I wanna do comedy. And I would start listening to Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy. I was like 14, uh, all these things. I had like a epiphany moment, you know, like I'm having with all these crazy ass movies, like Tub Balls and Stranded, and this is what I really do, and all these crazy movies that I'm coming up with, they kind of just get it gets downloaded to me, and I just go, Oh, let's do that. So then I'm at that point, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna throw a talent show for the youth. So then I would do these little youth nights around church, different churches, and then I would like become the church comedian. You know, everybody, if anybody knows about local, like Detroit, Chicago, everybody got that church comedian. You know what I mean? Because I was definitely church comedian. Yeah, St. Pete. No, we cussing and shit. It's crazy. We all it's ridiculous. But I can do, I still do clean comedy. Like when I do church, I still can do churches. You know what I mean? Yeah, man. I started cussing when I got to LA. No, I'm joking. No, I I just was going and doing all these churches, and then I met a guy named Horace HB Sanders that took me on the road for the first time, took me to Yuck Yucks in Toronto. Never forget that moment. Then I went to Montreal Festival.
SPEAKER_01What age did you go to Montreal?
SPEAKER_04I was like 17.
SPEAKER_01Were you booked or you just went to see?
SPEAKER_04Uh, no, I was open for him. Shout out to Horace H.B. Sanders. Call me, man. I got we gotta we gotta do something, bro.
SPEAKER_01I about to say, you ain't put him in shit. No, it's real. He just should be top boss.
SPEAKER_04No, no, no, but he won't do it because he's a Christian comedian. So we get these worlds that I'm not trying to do negative stuff. It's just like we gotta like, you know, everything I do, I I really don't, I don't like negative uh like if you watch my content that I make, making a brand and you know, chest out, these have a lighter tone to them.
SPEAKER_01He can be baptized boss. He the one that leaves people down in the water to baptize him. Oh my god. You ain't do what I told you to do.
SPEAKER_05Bless nigga.
SPEAKER_04Yo, see, that's an opening though. Okay. You won't see the tub boss in the tub, but he's drowning somebody in the tub while you're on the phone. Shit like that. It's different openings like that. So thank you. So Benton. Look, keep keep him coming, bro.
SPEAKER_03With the side eye. That's what I'm here for.
SPEAKER_04Take it off. Um, no. But um, so so yeah, man, so it just kept expanding. So I was really seasoned when I came out to LA. Okay. 14 to 19. I can't I came out 18 or 19. Came out for my winter break or spring break, and I said, Dad, instead of me going to Mexico and getting drunk, let me go to LA. I'm gonna sleep on my friend's couch. Uh, shout out to Eddie Rubin, and then um he got me at the laugh factory and got me a ha ha. Because I was killing at yuck yuck. It was like a run. I did yuck yucks, Toronto, killed that night, went back to Detroit, killed at the churches, came back. So I was so hot in what I was doing and so confident. And at 19, I looked 16. You see what I'm saying? Now that I'm 62, I look like 30. I'm gonna be now. But so I always look younger. So when the agent saw me, I had a thing called class clown. I remember that.
SPEAKER_01You had a whole teens of comedy tour. That's when I really first first met, but we it was in past in Atlanta. You love JJ. JJ, yeah, but I'm listening to Corporate Andre and Isaiah.
SPEAKER_04I was always self-generating a vision that I would that would take me to somewhere where I had to go. So um, and then when I got on that stage, I've never uh I I and Finesse hates when I tell this story, but finesse, I love you, bro. Yeah. Oh, I'm gonna pay the invoice this week, too. I'm sorry, I owe you some money. Um, that's random. Shout out to finesse. No, because we did some work together. That's a long story. Independent productions are hard. Oh, but um That's what my lawyer called them. Did you no? Um yet, though. No, no, no. It's you know, independent production. We found a better, and I can tell you guys about it later, uh, financial model to doing uh business.
SPEAKER_03It's called not paying niggas. No.
SPEAKER_01We found a better okay, I'm done. No, no, no, it's it's no, it's tough.
SPEAKER_04And it's tough because when you are doing your own stuff, investors can fall out. People can, it's uh so many things that can happen, you know. And if if you don't, we don't have the big bonds and not yet, but we're learning how to scale up. But that's another story. But um, yeah, finesse was was kind of bullshitting that night. He's very funny comedian. He's a beast. It's a beast, so don't get it twisted. He just did Saturday Night Live, he just made it that week, so everybody was actually coming to see him.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04This is kind of God. This is how God works, and I like that.
SPEAKER_01But that's why CAA was in the building that night.
SPEAKER_04And William Morris and uh ICM, all of them was there. I got cards from all three of them. So finesse was he was bullshitting that night. And he was like, I don't gotta be funny, and I'm I'm I'm just happy I made it on TV. And he kept saying, I don't gotta be funny. Like, shit. And he'll say a joke that was kind of funny, but shit. I ain't gotta be funny tonight. Cause I don't I and and then I was like, got him in my mind. Saw that, watch that, I was like, I watched this. Boom. Imagine a raw version of me. Never been in the LA. Don't even I ain't scared of shit. Detroit. Full Detroit.
SPEAKER_01It's live in Chocolate Sunday.
SPEAKER_04Live, yeah. It was packed as fuck. I was like, man, I gotta be funny, man. I'm from Detroit. That's why I had the high-pitched voice. I said, man, my mama got me in homeschool right now, man. She doesn't even know I'm left for homeschool. I said, I said, I hate it, because of the old old joke. I said, she had me taking my homeschool pictures yesterday. I was in a bathtub just like this, right? When I said that, the whole room went, ah. And I kept going, I'm the only white person and black person in a white neighborhood. Ah just wild.
SPEAKER_02Because you're not coming off that run. So you tell your timing is.
SPEAKER_04My timing was on point. And then finesse was bullshitting. I'm hot right now. It was just perfect, like storm. And then I get all these cars, I'm like, what's it? What's it? I call my friend. Like, what's Kai? What's Kai agency? What's it what's C I my ICM? I don't know what the fuck it is, bro. Are these big? That's how raw it was. William Morris. What the fuck? It was like I said, which one should I take a meeting with? And he was like, bro, that's CAA, bro. What the fuck, man? I just I was like, oh, okay, right. So we drove up CAA. She's like, we want to sign you. And um, I'm a junior agent. Her name is Elena DeCosta. And she signed me. And then um she got fired. This guy, God is this guy, listen, God is in control of everything. I don't care nobody say she got fired later on for some other stuff. She got let go. I went up the ladder and got a bigger agency because she got fired. So I kind of got shuffled up. Then I went to the white person treatment. No, it's no, I got well, it was like cosmic because Nick, then Nick Stein, then I got uh Michael Kievis, and I started getting this power team. With power team, I started talking like, look, man, Eddie Murphy ain't working right now. Y'all, Chris Tucker, he he he he he wants too much money. That's how I talk to them. I'll be like, look, let's go. We gotta make another one. We gotta do it like this. You know what I mean? Little did I know there was another man at another agency saying the same thing, and his name was Kevin Hart.
SPEAKER_05Hello, shit. I'm like, I don't know. Yeah, right?
SPEAKER_04I was like, so that's kind of how, yeah. That's kind of the backstory of it.
SPEAKER_00You have the story that random comics think that they gonna have when they move to LA. You're actually if there was somebody before you, okay, cool, fine, but you gotta be the last one got that story. I I because I ain't never even because kind of what happened for Tucker with the deaf jam set happened for you in stand up live in the room, which doesn't it. Comics, I know, I know you the funniest nigga in Tuscaloosa. I know, bro. You hilarious. But we were just talking about this last night. I don't know the world where you gonna come here and you gonna have this set and everybody gonna be like, ooh, when they hear your cell phone joke. It's like nigga, like now it's what's that? It's like it happened for you and you only like uh come to because even Tiff Story is a different from that. It's also the factory, but it's like she was a factory bred, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01To make your point, like she was at the laugh factory since she was 15 and that didn't happen to her. Right. She took off because a girl's trip. Right. You went to Chocolate Sundays your first night, right? That was your first time at the laughter. I was never at the laugh factory. So she was there.
unknownThat's the difference.
SPEAKER_01It was a first impression. Now, God, that's God. God did that. What happened to you almost happened to me. I did Chocolate Sundays one night, and my agent had brought some people there, my commercial agent, like people from Mattel. You might have been there that night. You might have been there that night. And I had a good set, and then I went upstairs. They took me upstairs and I'm with the.
SPEAKER_00The upstairs, upstairs, upstairs.
SPEAKER_01Not the upstairs, upstairs. Okay, I got you. Upstairs where the comments be at and stuff like that. So I went upstairs and I'm talking to the people from Mattel and all this shit like this. And I remember having a thought, I'm having my Brandon T. Jackson moment. And then I went and had a meeting and nothing happened. And yeah, and now I'm hosting killing it. No, I didn't, I did it, I did, I did the leader nigga. But I remember having that thought. I'm having my Brandon T. Jackson moment. Certain people I want to get like stories from, man. So I'm glad you shared like the Tropic Thunder and how you made it. The other thing that people don't know is before I started Russia Hour the TV series, um, before I did that, you did that was on CBS, you did Beverly Hills cop. I've always paved the way for people what to do, what not to do. You know what I used to always tell people when people used to hate on Brandon a lot, but they was mad because they weren't working and all that type of shit. Yeah. And I used to always tell people, you need to be happy for Brandon's success. Because if he's successful, they're gonna want more of us. Yeah. Then I go be, they're gonna be like, well, if I say he can't do every job. Yeah. So if he's filming Tropic Thunder and somebody else is doing a movie the same time period, they're gonna say, Well, we need a Brandon T. Jackson type. Or we need a funny young black dude. So I was like, y'all need to stop hating. I used to tell comics that shit all the time. Yeah. But you did Beverly Hills cop, the TV series. Yeah. But you did the pilot. Speak on how that came about. And I want you to talk about like it didn't get picked up. Like, what's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER_04This is when I knew God was in control. I knew he was in control, but I kind of forgot with the bitches and all the craziness. But like, you know what I mean? Like, I just can't nothing you can do about it. It's like I remember the agency when we found out everyone's face was like It was just so silent. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01You said when it did get picked up. When it didn't, but first okay, we did the pilot. Yeah, how you got how you got it first and talk about that.
SPEAKER_04So, um Eddie Murphy goes on to uh 106 in part. Remake and rebooting one of uh the brothers got and I'm watching Eddie Murphy on the thing. He's like, um, he's like, who do you think could play the role? He's like, and Roxy said, Kevin Hart. He said, No, um, this new kid named Brandon T. Jackson. I was like, what the f I was like, what the f wow. I called my agent and was like, hey man, what's up with the what wait, what are is this real? So it was whispers around Hollywood does that. Something going on, like whisper it first. You start hearing it like, already gonna do this. I didn't sign a comment. Am I doing this? Like you don't know. And then you start hearing the whispers about it. Uh just like y'all heard the whispers of me being crazy. Um in the time in the times where I was wildin'. Uh but it was a whisper campaign going on behind my back that I guess I was gonna be offered the role. And then let it know I was offered the role. And we developed it from scratch, and Eddie was able to go to Eddie's house, and I still got that picture of me and Eddie Murphy in um his bowling alley. And just it was just a great time. So I first met my wife, and you know, just it was just amazing. No, it was just it was a season. Oh it was like a season of hope and dreams that was so big. Like everything you want in Hollywood, you got the beautiful hot girl, you got you working with Eddie Murphy, and you're about to make five million a year. Sorry, I don't know how much you was making on that.
SPEAKER_00No, we would like to talk that was. I did not make that on Russia, right? That's for damn sure.
SPEAKER_04It wasn't no five million. It's just nigga, it went away in like two weeks after it didn't get picked up. The the crazy thing is the pilot at the time, because it's dated now, at the time, was really, really good, I think, for enough for TV. It's only so much good on TV. You know that. Yeah. CBS have their standard conditions. I mean, you're trying to do something raw. Got it, got it, got it. You know, it's tough to do something gritty and raw for CBS. And this one they wasn't letting black people back on major, you know.
SPEAKER_01That's a fact.
SPEAKER_04Like now it's cool. Now it's like that.
SPEAKER_01We have to have a black show on every network. Well, they're pulling back from that even.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so they see the City Analytics. They'll be like, oh, but pull it back to a goal, you know. We made Tubi, we made Fox, Fox, Netflix, M T. Yeah. They they can't scale without us, our fan base. I think they know that by now. So you always gonna have the the line, the it's too it's too many in. You can't kick that many out.
SPEAKER_01It's it's sad that we gotta keep reminding them our value as Americans. They because it's like, well, Fox was built off of that. Like a lot of networks was built off of like black content, but it's like we build up their companies and then they kick us off, and that's what they gonna do with Tubi. So that's why every black person in the world, you might as well get on Tubi now. Because I could promise you in another five to ten years, you're not gonna see black shit on Tubi. They go build the shit up and then they go kick niggas off, and then I'll be telling people they relegate black people right now, currently.
SPEAKER_04These are words from just nine.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, it's the truth. Fuck them. Except the ones that that's uh that's actually gonna be an ally, it's gonna actually help.
SPEAKER_04No, what I'm saying is I know, I and I'm gonna ask saying it's I do understand the same the regime at Tubi, as far as the people who are who are aggregating. Right.
SPEAKER_01I wasn't just talking about Tubi. I was talking about all of Hobbit.
SPEAKER_04And I do believe, I know, but I do believe they do have a sensitive spot for that market share. They want it and they love it. It it is one of those things if you you can expand out of it, but it's still their their foundational base of they don't want it as branding. But now see, I've heard the head of Tubi as a woman talk about She's great.
SPEAKER_01I love you. Yeah, shout out to her. Shout out to her. I know them having an African American audience was accidental. They wasn't targeting an African American audience. It was they realized the African American content was doing well on their platform. And then they say, okay, well, how can we start to super serve this community because they're helping.
SPEAKER_04See, there's a there's a I won't say his name, but there is a guy who used to work with uh Fox. Um he know he's very well and very versed with black programming. So I think it was I think that business model was was kind of um uh intentional because the numbers I mean I think he he built that I don't want to say his name uh because I don't feel like getting in not in trouble, but I just don't, you know, some people that's behind the scenes don't want to be in front of the camera, so but shout out to who you know who you are. Um and I think that it was intentional that he aggregated black content and was I don't feel like it was anything like you know I think that it was like this is the only way we're gonna make this network work right now is to to serve these these this data analytics and and this is the data we hear from you know this structure and and and I I think that was very um non-racial in a way of like if I know that I gotta go after Latino market and you see the numbers and you've aggregated Latino markets.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well they know what's gonna help them their business. Yeah. No, it's smart what you what you're doing. I mean, yeah, if you got a company and you see this community likes our shit.
SPEAKER_04But it was a heavy but it was a heavy rev share model in the beginning. Yeah. It was, I mean, they made a lot of lot of a lot of producers rich.
SPEAKER_01I hey man, I want to be on Tubi. I mean, I done pitched the Tubi, so I fuck with Tubi. I fuck with Tubi. My series is a little too big.
SPEAKER_03You could be on Tubi.
SPEAKER_01You say I could be on Tubi? Yes, it's easy. Oh, well, yeah. I mean, I'm paying it.
SPEAKER_04Like, bro, I got a distribution network over. I mean, distribution with them. So it's not hard. That's why I'm like, hey guys, he said it. Not me! I'm joking, no. No, there we no, Tubi's regime is dope. I fuck with Tubi. They're very great to work with and um and and very understanding to like market shares.
SPEAKER_02Let me ask you this. Um, as far as your fan, your fan base, do you feel like have they been sticking with you, or did you feel like I don't never know.
SPEAKER_04I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Dig that. So let me ask you, so with that, being unsure with your fan base, how has your family been throughout your career? Being that they come from the, you know, with the church background, stuff like that, have have you felt support in that way?
SPEAKER_04Or yeah, I have. I be I I'll be cussing the movies and you'd be at the church with Brother Johnson, but hey man, that was a good that was a good movie. I'm like, I thought y'all ain't supposed to watch that. But yeah, I had a lot of support in Great Faith Ministry. Shout out to my families. Yeah, it's it's home.
SPEAKER_02When's the last time you've been back home?
SPEAKER_04I'm going back next week, like uh a couple months ago. I go I go back often, go back as much as I can. Um, you know, just it I pray with my father every morning. So, you know, we we in prayer every morning. So he's not the devil anymore, Brandon. Who? No.
SPEAKER_01You pray with the devil? No. No.
SPEAKER_04No, my dad always been righteous, and and and I I I turn I turn my back on my dad based off some teachings that I learned, but he's always been a righteous man. And um, I turned my back at the time when I was going through my my truth exploration. I just wish truth should be truth is is is so and knowledge is should be more kept in the purity because people get truth and then they mess the truth up with their intent to control.
SPEAKER_00What do you feel like that Detroit shapes your how does it shape your comedy sensibilities? Because there's a lot of hilarious people from that. I mean, come on, man.
SPEAKER_04You got the church, the barbershop, the schools, that's community. You go up to the barbershop, be talking to your people, you go up to the school, you know, go on a date, take a girl to Coney Island, you know, take her to church, you know what I'm saying? Kiss her in the back of the church and be like, oh, we should be doing this. And uh, you know, the the youth, the youth uh um trips we used to go and hook up in the back of the bus and you know, pray to God that I'm sorry that I'm doing this. And you was fucking in the back of the church. No, I mean every every you know, every every dude did the whole hook up in the back of the bus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like, see? Yeah, get all that. That's why we all funny, because we had those experiences of humble experiences of just community, of our community. Our community is is the you know, that. And that's why I think that no matter how uh big I get when people start to talk to me, they go, wait, man, he ain't wait, that nigga regular. You know what I mean? And I think that throws people off. They expect me to be there is a side of me that's pretentious. Right. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01I will I would say you have been 100 with me. You you you somebody, you have your tote on Hollywood, but you've never like all went all the way, at least with me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know how niggas could get Hollywood, like they can switch up. Like, Brandon, he have his moments where it's like, bruh, but you see he here today.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. You see what I'm saying? You got a little, you know, you gotta dance a little bit, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00I mean, your bro, your presence, even being with us today, it it changes things. Because, you know, as we've been growing this, one of the conversations has been like, listen, if we if done correctly, it's like we're gonna do the work. We're gonna make sure it looks the way, we're gonna put the work in and make sure that the numbers are right, so on and so forth. But if you help us build now, when the next thing drops, that's where it let it's all it all helps itself as opposed to getting on the play. I gotta go do the Breakfast Club way over there. I gotta go do Joe Buddh. It's like, no, we should have it's LA, you guys. I was like, we should have some things here.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Where you know you can have the conversation. So we'll be here.
SPEAKER_04How you guys rolling this out? I know it's already out. How you just roll it out on IG?
SPEAKER_01Everything, IG, um, YouTube. So we drop full episodes on YouTube every Tuesday. We post clips every day uh on Instagram.
SPEAKER_04You got some hacks for y'all, man. Y'all gotta come by the content house, man. Yeah, I would love to. I gotta come by BTJ Inc. Man. I got some hacks for y'all, man, but I can't, I I can't, it ain't for everybody. What part of the city are you is are you guys at? Uh we got a couple uh we got one some downtown, some in uh sh I won't tell everybody where I'm at to be honest.
SPEAKER_01We got a game on this show. Kill it or let live. Okay. Okay, I'm we gonna I'm gonna throw out a topic. We're gonna throw out a topic.
SPEAKER_05It's a really dang.
SPEAKER_03We can support because we're brothers. It's your game.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna throw out a topic. Uh you're gonna say whether we should kill it, you're not messing with it, or let it live. It's all good. I'm right. Kill it or let it live. I'm right, go right there, though.
SPEAKER_04I'm right now.
SPEAKER_01Kill it or let live. Um responding to negative comments on social media.
SPEAKER_04I'll kill it. Who gives a fuck? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so so happy to say I don't give a fuck what you think about me on social media. I can care the fuck less. I can care less as I read the comments.
SPEAKER_02That stuff you up. Do you feel some of that not caring? Um, did that help work for you during that whole spiritual?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I didn't give a fuck. You can't go no lower than not having any money and and dirt and God in a robe. It's like you can't go no lower than that. So anything you say about me in a pretentious manner won't mean anything to me. Because you're already over there. I had to face God and man face to face, not like that, but like with nothing. Right. And everybody's turning back against me because I was so extreme with it, but I was feeling it was something real. So no kid on the internet. I've had people give you messages and I respond to DM me. I mean, I'm a big fan, man. I'm sorry for saying they just, they're like, they don't know what's going on. Right. They're just kids, man.
SPEAKER_01Alright. Kill it. I just thought of this one. Kill it.
SPEAKER_03Oh shit.
SPEAKER_01Kill it or let live. I know that was a little warm-up one. That was the one that gets you lubed up. Kill it or let live. Being the star of every blockbuster movie for the rest of your life, but you gotta wear a dress and participate at a ditty party.
SPEAKER_04Oh, come on, you already know what that is. Kill it. Ridiculous.
SPEAKER_03I think I already killed that, right?
SPEAKER_00Killing dead.
SPEAKER_01All right. Kill it or let live. Hook it up with white women on Juneteenth. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Oh my God. I'm just gonna fuck with him. Let live.
SPEAKER_01Let them live in the live, baby. We gotta like the white women. We gotta let that live.
SPEAKER_04I'm just gonna do that just to get trolled.
SPEAKER_01Kill it or let live. You get to experience time travel. But before you get to explore, you have to witness the night your parents conceived you. Bro, you know that's kill it.
SPEAKER_04Fuck that. I feel like I just have sunglasses on with this conversation. No, for real. I feel this is uh the number is literally.
SPEAKER_03I've checked up.
SPEAKER_02I've checked up. I love this, I love it.
SPEAKER_01He still got one more season of uh in the baby. I can't participate in this dude.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna hit the Tom Cruise laughing with his new glass.
SPEAKER_01Okay, okay, okay, here, fine. We got the most Hollywood laugh we can do. We got we got one.
SPEAKER_05Let's go.
SPEAKER_01Kill it or let live. Eat it and jump it. Kill it or let live. People constantly sending you reels in your DMs. Uh let live.
SPEAKER_04It's annoying, but let it live. Okay. Let it live. Okay. Your girl do that? Like what they do then?
SPEAKER_01Uh you know what? My wife actually has really good taste. She only sends me something if it's really funny. Okay. And it's rare too. She don't send me something.
SPEAKER_04Nah, I get sending all the 12 signs you're not a good husband. Them shit. I'm like, God, I hate them.
SPEAKER_01Kill it or let live. Letting your lady go on vacation with her friends, but she said she's not taking her cell phone.
SPEAKER_04Man, fuck that shit. Kill that. Kill that.
SPEAKER_02The real Bradley came out. Wait, what? Put the jokes down.
SPEAKER_04Nah. We ain't doing that. Alright. Girls' trips are cool, but that's hilarious.
SPEAKER_00So I normally uh I normally do uh top fives, man, but with you, I want to ask something more specific. Do you feel like you've created I I kind of already know the part, but I'm gonna ask anyway. Do you feel like you've created your Magnum opus or do you know the role that you want to do that that to show the world the full range of I don't know?
SPEAKER_01That's a good question.
SPEAKER_00That's great.
SPEAKER_04I don't feel like I know I haven't I haven't shown my full range of film, I can say that.
SPEAKER_01We didn't even talk about damn honor ticket in the rooftop.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean I mean I was trying to win a Oscar the B movie. I was like, I'm gonna win an Oscar. Uh no, I have not shown my full range in in film at all. Uh I don't even know if I can if I can I I got an idea of what I want to that I'm writing that I want to play that is a full form film that's that if I said it, I'm not gonna say it because people try to take it off. But um it would definitely show more range of where I need to be. Yeah. But no, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I haven't done that. You have a full understanding of this business from aspects and understands that nobody does. You're killing it in every way that you want. What does it look like for you? Because you've been at the mountaintop, you've been down in the dirt with the people, you you didn't climb back up, decided on if I want to go back up there or not. So so what does it look like for you? You got a production company, is it behind the scenes, or you directing it?
SPEAKER_04Just level it off. I don't know. I think I think I'm I'm moving into the uh the kind of like a Brandy Jackson film or a Brandy Jackson presents mode right now. Um I don't have to be in everything. I'll probably make cameos and things like Tyler Perry does, but I'm I'm I think I'm moving more into a movie mogul mode where I want to see other people win and give them kind of the sauce that I see and you know play in those worlds. Um I Stiller really did a he did a real big impression on me where you know he's directing like uh like some of the highest movies as like dramas right now.
SPEAKER_01Severit severance.
SPEAKER_04Severus is like directed by Ben Stiller, is like it's a Stiller film. So I kinda wanna go into that lane of producing and directing. And uh this is a Brandy Jackson film, a vision of of I want to see what I can envision without the without the the red tape.
SPEAKER_00So see just now I gotta ask. It was top five comedic actors, but but I had skipped it because I was like, but I realized how many times how how uh elevated you speak of of Stiller. So I was like, it was top five for comedic actors.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, his formula for uh the way he does things, I underst I understand that like his structure of visually seeing the division and and and and executing it on all levels of art. People will probably fight me on this, but Stiller's up there with uh Spielberg with directing. I really think he is. I'm not gonna debate that. Yeah, he's up there with Spielberg. Man, let people know where they can find you at on social media. At Brandon T. Jackson, stay tuned. We got a lot of uh great things, Tub Boss.
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