CP

Comedian, CP, tells wild Diddy story, along with discussing writing on the TV series 'Diarra from Detroit' and 'How To Die Alone', love for roasting and puppetry, upcoming comedy specials, and what it's like being one of the new great voices in comedy. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

So I'm like, um I have no contact with Diddy once the contract is signed. Does not hit me up. I go to the Manny Al, to the uh Pacquiao and uh Floyd fight. My homies live. They like nigga Diddy having a party. Don't try to get a show together? Let's get up. I'm like, nigga, I don't know this nigga like that, you know? And I'm now I'm mad at this nigga Diddy. Man, Diddy, man. This nigga don't never hit me up. Nigga, never, mind you. Thank God. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 0:28

Straight up. You have anger issues, CP. You know this.

SPEAKER_03 0:44

My size, we all have some. Listen, let me tell you something, bro. See, if I was his size, I'd be the most friendly ever, bro. Oh God. This size is like, bro, I know you meet me in my whole life. And I had to get up on some nights to like that nigga like, yo, that nigga, he ain't the one. And it's like, that's always been a thing. Then it started being funny. Funny without fear, which is how you start roasting. You know what I'm saying? You started being like, you do it. And then it just came like, this nigga crazy. You know what I'm saying? No water. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 1:22

Listen to uh I saw you was in martial arts. I know that because I was in martial arts too, and I was in Detroit trying to uh figure I was getting callbacks for rush hour, and you got it. And then I saw I saw uh this was me up about you. Um I saw you run.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:41

And I was like, oh I can't run as fast as that.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

You got a real athlete.

SPEAKER_03 1:46

I'm no this nigga can run. Oh yeah, you didn't. I'm from Florida now. Yeah, bruh. Yeah, them niggas down there chasing chickens and all kinds of shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

My all my cousins from the country, country, bruh. We play ball? Not not I played a little bit, but I wasn't like on the team team in high school. I played like recreational ball team and shit like that. But yeah, no, I I used to fight too, bruh. That's why what pissed is off about me is that I check it. I don't give a shit how big he is. I'm like, you just got to beat my ass. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 2:15

You know what I'm saying? And you start realizing like most niggas don't even want to really go there because like littlings will kill you, dog.

SPEAKER_05 2:24

Right.

SPEAKER_03 2:25

Like, because I don't I what you got to. Yeah, you didn't finna paralyze me.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Right. Caught that with one hand. Come on, man. Okay, see that? Come on, man. Big ass eye.

unknown 2:38

You feel me?

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Yeah, I told somebody, a comedian got mad at me because I told a joke because we had gotten to it at one time at an open mic or whatever, but I was working on a joke. He thought I was talking about him on the on the on the like on the low, and I really wasn't. But I was like, yo, I'm so little if like if I lose, I have to kill you. Right. Like, there's no, there's like if I lose, you have to kill me. Because I'm I'm coming back, bruh. That's just in my nature. Like, you're going to have to kill me.

SPEAKER_03 3:05

And so I, you know, like uh I realized.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

Welcome to killing it. Host Justin Hyert, Big Tiggs. And we got the one and only CP and the big one of the best doing it, man.

SPEAKER_06 3:18

And the friendly guy. Friendly guy.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

Did he in Detroit, right? Allegedly. I haven't murdered anybody yet. Go for it. What you were saying though? My bad.

SPEAKER_03 3:30

Um, nah, man. Uh, it's just like uh, you know, God knew what he was doing, man. Like, um, I got a very aggressive personality. And if I was bigger, I don't know how that would bow. Just where I'm from, how niggas threw their weight around. And I used to always see that. Like, man, I'm I wish I was, you know what I'm saying, just mushy and you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't want to start the interview like that, man, because you know what I'm saying. We on we on some whole other shit. Yeah, man. Man, it's killing, man.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

There's some real, real talk right here. I mean, sometimes, man, I just been doing my research and they be like, man, you just gotta be authentic in your these podcasts and putting your brand out there. And I mean, sometimes some my homeboy reminded me one time I had to roast somebody online because I'm not big on roasting, because I fight somebody. So that's why I don't roast. But but my homeboy told me he said, sometimes you gotta let know. Like, sometimes you I remember about rush hour, a dude did a TikTok clown in the Russian TV series. He's like, Y'all know they made a rush out TV series. And I'm like, I will squash you with my wallet. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, are you are you crazy? I'm like, you you've never had a show to even get canceled. You know what I'm saying? So, anyways, I went in on him and by my because I wasn't gonna do it, but my home he was an Instagram dude. He had a lot of followers. I roasted him so bad, he slid in my DMs and apologized and took it took his video down.

SPEAKER_03 4:51

You know what's crazy? When you roast niggas online, they would be like, hey man, I'm a fan, bro. Right.

SPEAKER_04 4:56

My nigga, stop talking about that ain't how we did fans. Imagine you go to the circus like you.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

Man, so yeah, so talking about it. We I do want to talk about that though. Um, first of all, um, you writing on Daria DR from Detroit DR from Detroit. I said it wrong again. Um, How to Die Alone, um, host the Hot Mike, LOL's Hot Mite, that uh Kevin Hart produces. Um so you killing it, bro. You getting it in uh the hospital. I just wanted to list off some of his credits. But I did want to backtrack with the roasting. You said it was because you were small. Do you remember the first time you really started roasting somebody? But you can also just talk about the genesis of you just being a roaster in general. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 5:50

Um I remember I think I had to be like my cousin. Uh I I got I got a cousin. We the same age, but this is like double my size. Right? And so like um he was always kind of like heavier, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, like now he's not fat. Like LeBron now. Right, but he was fat when we was kids. He was an easy target to kind of roast him around people. And I love the side of death, but it was I was addicted to the feeling of being the center of attention. And so I remember we were kids, and um my granddad had this big ass van. We had TVs in the back of the van. We used to take our family trips in the van. And so we got cousins from out of town who we don't really see like that. You know, they girls and shit, you know what I'm saying? We I'm roasting. We we roasting a Burger King commercial come on TV. Look, this nigga bite the TV. Everybody just laughing all the time. We get to the water park, this nigga say, anybody like you for a second. I'm like, what up? Boom! Hit me in the stomach. I'm like, what the nigga? You're a Christian. Hit me like this for. And so uh this nigga had like a vendetta against. I remember like we was like 11. When we got 16, we got alone again. And it's like, yeah, I wanna fight. And I'm like, why do you want to fight me? And I'm like, oh, but he's like, cause all you do is talk. And I'm like, damn, I gotta fight this nigga. Nobody here. We in a hotel room, nobody here. I'm talking about this. We scrapping this week, stomping. I'm like rolling under the bed, like, oh shit, like like I had exhausted the way that I could fight this. Right. You're trying to do that. I was like retired everything. This is a bear. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 7:28

And so um bed him, tickled him. Chew this jewelry. Not my job!

SPEAKER_03 7:36

But uh, I just remember like um that not stopping me. That like getting stumped, being like, mad as hell. It's just like I just I just remember being like, man, nothing even getting beat down is better than the feeling of this, like, this mental game that we do where it's like I have to come up with the best joke to be able to, and it's like a sickness. It's like, oh, I have to do it. And so when I started doing comedy, fast forward, um, that was my whole bit. I would come out on stage and roast the audience, right? And so I'm in Detroit. That's when I started having to carry pistols because niggas was like, yo, oh, we will see you. I said because I was destroying niggas meanly. Right. I was meanly, you know what I'm saying? Like, look at this fat bitch. What you doing there, you know what I'm saying? Like, destroying. And so it was a it was a comedian named Foolish from Detroit who was like, what are you doing? Like, bro, you're not the headliner. You're ruining the show. It's a big ruckus cause of you. And then you gotta come back out. It's like, bro, stop, man. Get some material or else stop calling yourself a comic. And so I kind of took that to heart. He was the first to put me on stage. So I'm like, damn, all right. So I started really focusing on my material and got really good at material and kind of left roasting behind. But I realized that when I get into these new arenas, roasting has always been like a way that I established my dominance. So when I got out to LA, um people like Billy Surreels and all these guys is outside roasting, and I'm like, hey, nah. Hey, man, I like a fiend. Yeah, I was like, hey man, you get one of them roasts, man. And then I fell right into it. And then they was like, man, you can you gotta come do roast me, man. When you good, yeah, do them roast me. And so uh, you know, I went to roast me, and that rebirthed the roasting in me. And I see young cat. It's a young cat named uh Dehern. Absolutely. And so I see him going down that same path. And I just be, I feel like uh at the end of Paid in Fool when Ace was just watching the body, you know what I'm saying? Like, I remember like just looking at this nigga like, man, that's how I started, is just coming out here, nobody knows me, and roasting, roasting, roasting, roasting to the point where they, you know, and um I think that man, just hurting, honestly, you know, like, you know, just you know, being at the crib, man, single mom, the pressure. When you ain't got your dad there to be like, leave that boy alone, and you just at the mercy of a woman attitude and PMS and my motherfucking dishes. And it just like being the only child, when I got around other kids, I just wanted to hurt them. You know what I'm saying? And I had to realize, like, like, man, dawg, like I'm really mean. You know what I'm saying? I'm really being mean. And you know, I you ran into a couple niggas who don't play that. Like, when I got into martial arts, I got into martial arts to whoop a specific nigga's ass. Like, literally, I told my dad, like, my dad, like, nigga, whoop the nigga. I'm like, no, I can't whoop this nigga. Right. I cannot. I was like 13. I'm like, dawg, like, I'm watching this nigga and I know this nigga stronger than me. I saw them nigga take this fat bitch and do her like this. And I'm like, nigga, I weigh a third of what this bitch weighs. You know what I'm saying? And so I started training. And I was eighth grade. I trained the whole eighth grade, the whole summer, and then we went to ninth grade. What was what you studied? Uh, just karate. Gotcha gotcha. Like Taekwondo type shit. Gotcha got you. And so, uh, you know, he's in ninth grade before you was. Yeah, yeah. So ninth grade. By the time I I started in uh eighth grade, by the time I got to ninth grade, I probably was like a purple belt. And once you get past yellow belt, your nuts drop. You know what I'm saying? Like, your kicks is up here. I wish a motherfucker would. You know what I'm saying? And so uh ran into that nigga, beat his ass, and then quit karate. Like, all right, cool, I did it. We ain't gotta waste that little intuition no more. You know what I'm saying? And got the fuck on. You know what I'm saying? But like, uh, yeah, man, like just growing up in these urban environments, man, where you know, you at the bus stop fighting for your life. Yeah. And ain't nobody finna break it up, ain't nobody finna, and you gotta get an edge, even if that's a mental edge. Even if it's to embarrass a nigga. You know what I'm saying? Even if it's to, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I look back and it's like, man, I might be slightly a crash out. And I had to like monitor that. Like, oh shit. I went to a new school, 10th grade, because I got kicked out of ninth grade. New school in 10th grade, and it was a punishment to go to this school. Because it was like a hood school. It was that school, yeah. Yeah, because I I I come from like schools for the gifted, you know what I'm saying? So now I'm going to this hood high school, and my mom was like, they gonna get your ass together in there. You know what I'm saying? And so uh I remember I had a little S curl and uh I fell asleep in Spanish and I woke up and this big ass nigga had put a comb in my head. Like, comb that shit. And I looked at this nigga and I was like, alright, bet. I went to the store. You know how you go to the store, like a like a smoke shop, and they sell knives. You can just get you a pocket knife, you know what I'm saying? I wanted to. I was like, yeah, let me get uh the big one, the real big one, the uh the Tomb Raider bitch. You know what I'm saying? Tomb Raider and um I never forget my homeboy Kurt. Fat Kurt, that's what we call him. And uh I told him, like, he's like, nigga, he was friends with the nigga. He's like, nigga, don't you can't kill the nigga, bro. He's just niggas fucking with you. You know what I'm saying? He brought me to the nigga, like, man, you know the nigga finna stab your ass? Listen, man, this nigga, you know what I'm saying? And we end up being cool. And you know, and that was kind of like, it's just like, man, it's you know, uh, the whole world perceives black men as big and strong. So if you happen to be a black man that's not big and strong, there's a certain anger that you carry because the world's gonna give it to you anyway. Right. The world gonna, you know, cross the street, lock their door, all that shit anyway, even when you're not a tall ass nigga. So now it's like, what's wrong with y'all? You know what I'm saying? And it's like an anger involved in that, bro. And so this situation just it taught me that, man, I might not be as healed as I wanna be. And now I got so much to lose. You know what I'm saying? I got so much to lose that it's like, I need to start smiling more. I need to start having more fun. I need to start like really, really, because nigga, I just be you know what I'm saying. Listen, the little music I listen to and shit, I'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with me? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 14:08

Uh it sounds like you're sounds like you do have an inner voice. And what is that, what does it say mostly to you?

SPEAKER_03 14:19

Man, bro, you lucky to be where you at. And I don't even like that, because I'm not lucky to be where I'm at. You know what I'm saying? But I think that you know, I think about um my family, man, and and and the way that they laughed at a nigga when I said I wanted to do comedy. Not understanding that I didn't I didn't just want to do it, I wanted to be one of the best. Laugh at, like, laughed at as like. Like, nigga, you gonna do what? You went to college, nigga. Oh my god. Your cousin works at Home Depot, you need to do that. You need to go get you a job and a family. You know what I'm saying? Right. And so I think that what's interesting is that when your family does that, it pushes you into these situations where you at the point of no return. Right? It's like, I can't go back home. So I gotta make it. I have to. And so then it starts to play on your psyche. I don't have no support system, so I gotta make sure that you know, I gotta beat these niggas. Like I stay up and I'm I'm watching it. This nigga better than me. No, and I and it's like and it's like that. And so it is my inner voice is very competitive and very like you ain't shit yet. You lucky that you, you know what I'm saying? And um, that's interesting, bro. I'm really trying to defeat that.

SPEAKER_05 15:29

The the roast me thing is uh the roasting thing is so interesting. Cause in my brain, roast me's happening, it's like this hot thing, and then I remember once you're in. And and very quickly, is you know, one of the big dogs has just entered the room, and it's like, uh, especially uh because Pat uh Patrick Cloud.

SPEAKER_01 15:50

Shout out to Pat Cloud. He be just doing first names. We like Pat, we like Patrick Woon cooling, yeah. Right, right, right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_05 15:58

So uh Pat Cloud, we had we had a conversation with him, and he was saying that, you know, it took a while to get the legs under it, but once that had happened, it was hard to kind of take people's seat, and it was kind of identifiable who was who and what was what. So to see your acceleration in that space was like, oh, like you, you are okay, they go LeBron and they go Kyrie.

SPEAKER_04 16:21

And now who's this guy? Steph? Steph Curry?

SPEAKER_05 16:23

Like, it's like it's like he just entered the room. He's like, you know what I'm saying? It was it was beautiful to see you and Craig specifically. I can't figure out how y'all brains work. Like, where somebody roasting, you see some shoes, you see this. I get that aspect. Because I'm not a I'm not a roaster per se. I'm an observer and accelerator. So like sometimes my roast is positive. Be like, nigga, why are you gonna be roasting? Because I don't be roasted. It's like you be roasting roast. I don't. I just told this nigga he looked like he has a 401k. That's not a roast, nigga. He looks like he's doing good life. Right. So I was like, but when I see y'all, the way that y'all tinker, yeah, it's like how, how I I want to know how it works for material, but specifically for roasting, is it different? Do you feel like they're two different gears?

SPEAKER_03 17:13

I think that um, you know, my whole comedy style is imagination.

SPEAKER_05 17:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:18

Right? It's all just made up, um reality adjacent kind of things, right? And I feel like Craig has that same shuffle. He told a nigga he chipped his tooth licking a crosswalk button.

unknown 17:31

Right?

SPEAKER_03 17:31

Now, now chipping your tooth is fucked up, right? Chipping it, licking anything is crazy, right? But chipping it, licking a crosswalk button is so specific.

SPEAKER_04 17:46

And you can really chip your tooth on a crosswalk. Every time I licking a crosswalk, I'll be like, damn. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 17:52

So it's like, you know, you have to oh man. You have to disassociate. I think that one of the things is that I I was very careful with how I roasted on roast me because these are like good guys. These are like my friends. These niggas weren't trying to hurt me and weren't trying to, and so it turned into fun. I remember I told Ronnie Jordan, that nigga walk into Burger King and say, give me another one, I'm gonna kill myself. You understand that? Like, it's it's all my fat jokes are friendly style. I told Doughboy, he's so fat. Or no, David Lucas, he's so fat. He was talking about the nigga behind his back, by the time you turn around, you don't even feel that way no more. Nigga, that was last year. Nigga, you know what I'm saying? It's like it's like trying to roast within the parameters of keeping it creative and not making it mean, I think allowed me to open my brain up to like the friendly roast. Right? You look at like the white style of roasting, which is the roast battle, they are roasting like almost like the way they roast, another nigga would be like, yo, you trying to end my career, bitch ass nigga? You know what I'm saying? Like, like they roast, like, hey nigga, let me tell you something. You'd be like, whoa! You know what I'm saying? Like, and so it's not that. It's more or less about this friendly style of jarring and it's like a cartoon.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

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SPEAKER_05 19:19

I want to tackle that. Is there rate is there segregation in roasting? Because when they do those things, it's not. If they had you on those kind of things, oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

Well, that's the thing, bro. So, like, they did have me on that. All right. Um, I was in an international roast competition that Jeff Ross did at JFL 2019. Yes. And the first round, they put me against Takara. And I'm like, why the fuck are y'all putting me against Takara? It's international. All the countries. Right. Y'all put me against a black woman who you know that I'm gonna have to roast her weight and her stature and the jiggle and all of that, right? Yeah. And so And you fuck with her. And I fuck with her. And so what hurt my feelings was my homeboy Ryan Taylor came up to me and like, hey man, Takara's afraid to do this. And I know you know, and I'm like, Yeah, that don't feel good. That don't feel good. And so I remember I was, I was, I told Andrew Schultz, I said, Look, I'm about to go get my puppet out of my room. I got a puppet, Reggie Bo. And I'm gonna roast her with Reggie. And maybe they'll like that. Maybe that'll be something because I'm not about to do this to her. Right. You know what I'm saying? See, I low key just got pissed off about that shit.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

But that is a racial thing. Why they had two black people calling each other. Because in their mind, they thinking we only want one black person or whatever at the end of all of this. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:41

And in front of a room full of French Canadians, right? These is white French Canadians. Put me against Ross, nigga. Put me against Ross. Put me against, you know what I'm saying? And so, like, uh it was interesting because I didn't want to do it. I did it with Reggie Bo. They clowned me for it, right? Niggas talking shit to me, like, why would you do that dumb ass shit? And I just remember being like, uh, man, I just I had a decision to make. I didn't want to do that to her in front of these people. Absolutely. Yeah. And but the way that they roast, they don't exclude us from it. But you need not fuck with that if you are a black roaster. Like, I don't want to see Deharm roasting against, you know, these white boys because they're gonna say something that he there's no, there's no um reciprocal to nigger for them. Right. There is no white joke that's a black joke. Like, there is no, it's not even. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? So it's like if you go there, it's like I'm gonna be infuriated. And once again, here we back in the hole. Right, you know what I'm saying? And so it's just like it's interesting because on one hand, you want to be able to let it roll off. And you know, but it's like coming from a white man saying some shit that he knows better than to ever say to you outside of that. I mean, yeah. It's not segregation, but you just need to stay your ass where the nigga is.

SPEAKER_05 22:05

No, I was just gonna say it shouldn't be, it's not a hard phone call to we're doing the roast of blankety blank celebrity, and on this panel is dot da dot dot dot da dot dot. And it's like to make you one of the dot da dots, it just makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

But that's a different style of roasting, too. So like when you're roasting a celebrity, that leans more towards the roast me style of roasting. Right. Right? When they're doing the roast battles, where it's that's like you, you kind of want to make sure, because they're going for the jugular. Uh John's mom died last month. The reason why she died is because the fat bitch decided that, you know, and this is like, whoa. Right. You would like Craig would never do that. I would never do that. And we the best over there. We wouldn't do that, right? And that's why, you know, people like David Lucas, who I who, you know, I've always been like, man, I don't like what you're doing over there with Kill Tony and them, because I feel like it's slightly on the coon shit. But you gotta admire the fact that he can tow that line with them white boys over there. Because I can't do it, bro. You know what I'm saying? I think it's not to cut you off.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

I think it's one of those those moments where um if we recall when Dave Chappelle was talking about when the laughs sound different, when they're laughing at you. Yeah. And it gives them that that energy. It's sometimes not even spoken. But we know black laughter know, like, oh, that don't that ain't coming from the same place. I'm coming from you on something. It gets weird.

SPEAKER_05 23:26

It's just like if if you was, if if we were talking about the ability to sing, right, there's points in time where uh BT or award show's going on, it's like everybody's they we need to bring the best singers on. And then they'll have singers that are these blankety blank stars or whatever, whatever, and then you'll see like Leticy, who might not be this huge name, but you know her skill set is up, up, upper par. So it's like, I would feel like if you are a high-level roaster or you was having a high-level roasting event, then you need to know who the high-level roasters are that exist on this planet. Right. And to not have one of them, it always feels I'll I'll say, oh, nope, I don't believe it.

SPEAKER_02 24:02

But I think that's why too what he was saying, which is even if some of these guys did jump on some of those platforms, what are you gonna match that's gonna hit that's gonna strike a core deeper than saying call somebody a nigga in the middle of the joke like, whoa.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

Well, you know, white white people's N-word is being called racist. Um if you say it, yeah, oh yeah, that's their that's their N-word. But you but it can only work if they really feel that they're racist. So you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 24:29

Or that they're feeling like they're not.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

Or they feel that they're not. Yeah, yeah. And then that's the only way to kind of combat that. I want to kind of switch up a little bit because you've been writing on these TV shows. Um Say it again, DiR. DR from Detroit. DiR from Detroit. Um, and how how to die alone. When you write, first of all, how did you get into writing on these TV shows? Um, so you know, people always ask me, how do you become a writer?

SPEAKER_03 24:55

Somebody gotta give you a chance. Right? I think that nobody is a writer until they're a writer. And that's just how it goes. So, like, for us, being a comedian, we every night we're auditioning for anything that people want to possibly put us in. Right? And so, like, you know, being a comedian and having material makes people think, oh, that's a good way to that you wrote that. Maybe you could write. Or maybe you can lend that voice to my show. And so, like, when I when I first wrote on Detroiters, that was the first show I ever wrote on, was Detroit's. Oh, with Tim Robinson. Yeah. Oh, he's killing. Oh my god, Tim is going crazy to the point where Tim is going so crazy that the Detroiters has a has a resurgence because people want to find out everything that he's been in. Yeah, I gotta go back and rewatch Detroit or something. Really, really, really funny. But some of the funniest shit I've ever done. But um, I come from an advertising background. I used to write commercials when I first graduated from undergrad, so that show is about that. And so, like, Michigan State? Yeah. Okay. Yup, Michigan State. So I ended up um having a meeting with Tim and Sam. Like, look, this show is about advertising. I come from that world. I could lend some whatever. And I became like a like a small junior writer with them, right? So it's me, Tim, Sam, Jason Sadakis, uh, Joe Kelly, Zach. And we're writing it in Lauren Michael's office. So I'm like, I'm like, holy shit. And the longer it went on, the stronger I became as far as being able to voice my opinion in that room. That was my first time really being around that kind of scenario. Um, but it was such a funny ass room that it was like it was like going to funny college, right? Like these niggas, Tim and Sam would just get up and start wrestling in the middle of fucking, you know what I'm saying? Like, you feel me? And so, like, from there, um, the success of Detroiters and the credit of my name being on there, then I start writing on Black Jesus. Then after Black Jesus, then I wrote on a couple of other um shows before I, you know, and I would sell pilots, my own little stuff that I would try to do. And I'm gonna tell comedians this too. Real shit. You ever notice how most comedians be like six, seven pilots deep before they get their break? And you know why that is? Nobody tells us this. The comedian, the most successful comedian actors are usually number two or three on the call sheet. We are usually the zanier one that the number one person is reacting to, right? So like there's always the day day to the Craig or the Smoky to the Craig, or and so once Craig gets his own show, it's hard to build a world around what they're supposed to be reacting towards, right? So, like a lot of comedians don't do well as number one on the call sheet unless you have a script that's zany enough to allow you to be that, and you know what I'm saying? So, like you look at Martin, Martin was damn near reacting off of himself with his mom and Sineine and them. Then he had a cast of people around him that was good at one thing. Martin's show was built like a fucking basketball team. Right. Yeah, right? You got Tommy go sit in the corner and shoot the three for the, you know what I'm saying? Cole Cold, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, Gina, you know, um, Pam's coming in, being the Draymond to the, you know, and it's like that's how you build it. A lot of comics don't do well as the number one on the call sheet because the way that we've been taught to build shows has not always been lending to the talents that we have. I'm gonna just say that.

SPEAKER_05 28:21

You that that's a that's a great pivot. You have always had this high IQ and understanding about the business. Let me tell it, pre-moving here. Because when I meet you, I feel like you're visiting in and out, but you're here for business. You're here to sell shows, you are packaging shows at the time, and yeah, I was figured it, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 28:46

I was like, but that's why, I'm gonna tell you what why that is, and it's not no rocket science. When I left college and I started doing commercials, part of the process was pitching those commercials every week. And so pretty soon I'm there for uh 30 months, right? Two and a half years exactly. Every Friday, we're pitching. Whether I'm on the business side or the creative side, we're pitching, pitching, pitching. Pretty soon, pitching becomes nothing. So now when I get to Hollywood, I realize that all these top writers, all these showrunners, all these actors, all these comedians are afraid to pitch the idea. Because that is like, that's the Super Bowl. You get in the room, and now what now you now what you're gonna do? Now your idea, now you're stuttering, now you're not explaining it the best way you could, and that was my superpower was my ability to pitch because I have been doing it forever. So I go into the rooms like, man, this is what it is, better than this is the concept, this is how much it costs, this is how we want. And they like, who the fuck are you? Right. And so my first show, sold it in the room. You know what I'm saying? Second show, sold it in the room. Third show, call me the next day. We're gonna do it, like, and it became a thing. So now they're starting to bring me on projects that need help with the pitch process. So now I'm starting to attach as a producer because I can help you pitch. I can like I had the magic touch at the time because nobody knew who the fuck I was. And it was such a good kind of like juxtaposition of like this guy walking in with the jeans on, and to leave and being like, what's your number? What's your, you know what I'm saying? Because and so that was our game that we would play. Me and my reps was like, they don't know you. Let's go in and fuck them up. Right? And so that's what we used to do. And so once you kind of get your name for yourself, now that became my allure, right? Like I was selling a show every year until about 2018. Then I got my first holding deal with CBS. Uh, they only had two niggas on CBS. This nigga and uh and uh Damon Wayne Jr. Only two niggas on CBS.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

They kept Damon Wayne Jr. They got rid of my black dad. You get out of here, nigga. It's over here. And so um I was asking for too much money. Man, look.

SPEAKER_03 30:56

I got my first holding deal. I did a pilot with a lady named Gloria Calderon Kellett. She's huge. Um in the uh Latina X World. She's one of the top executive producers, Latina woman. She's killing it. But we did a pilot. The pilot didn't go, but I tested through the roof, right? And so they were like, who the fuck is this guy? Let's sign him, let's do something. So in 2018, my first holding deal was essentially just me getting paid to sit at home, wait for them to call me. And I didn't like that. That was my first year not selling nothing, not doing nothing. I got a year older. I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? You know what I'm saying? Like the money is cool, but ain't nobody seeing me on nothing. My kids ain't being like, you know. And so To your kids, you just a nigga sitting at home. Right. Exactly. Daddy don't know. Daddy on the game again. Beating every PlayStation game, you know what I'm saying? And so in 2019, I hopped back in to just kind of like um, you know, like start auditioning and stuff. 2020, the pandemic hit. Right? So now you're like, all right, cool. We at the crib. I started streaming. We started doing Zooming with the homies and all this kind of stuff, which birthed the hospital and birthed, you know, some of the things that Tahir and Kevin them got going on, just because we were able to like like gain fanship just being at the crib. So um I do uh audition for um um Love Life. I get Love Life and uh I love that show, by the way. It's supposed to be six episodes. They end up keeping me for 10, right? And that changed, I never got that much money for doing, you know what I'm saying? They like my hair, they like, you know, just the nigga in me, you know what I'm saying? You know, Paul Figue is like, love what you're doing. Don't change a thing. Right. Can someone line him up? You know what I'm saying? Can someone give him a line? Syburns with the C? And so, um it, and and after Love Life, um that's how I got the attention of a Natasha Rothwell. And she's like, well, how can I work with him? They're like, well, he writes. And she's like, oh, okay. And so she uh brought me on as a producer and a writer on How to Die Alone. This is a huge writer's room, a corporate writer's room. This is a little different than Detroit's. We all, you know, this is like a corporate style, and um, you know, it's just how to Die Alone was a crazy, crazy success as far as uh accolades. It ended up getting canceled because of the whole DEI stuff and everything that was going on with the strike and and all of that. But I mean it was huge for her and for a lot of us at that time. And um, so me and Diara, Kilpatrick, went to middle school together. Wow. We went to a school called Bates Academy, it's a school for the gifted in Detroit. And um, she got voted most likely to be an actress, I got voted class clown. Wow. And so you look at us now. And so like she's always been a fan. She's like, man, when I get my show, I want you to work on my show. In season one, I was doing how to die alone, so I couldn't do nothing. Like, couldn't go over there. When How to Die Alone got canceled, the first person that rang my phone was DR. Like, nigga, get your ass over here. We need you.

SPEAKER_05 33:56

Okay, so I don't want to, youesh. So go, I want to go back, love life. I remember when I see it, uh, and I'm and I'm watching it, and you said something profound that stuck with me. It's stuck with me uh every day to this day. You I say, bro, how does it feel? Because this is one of the first things that I see that I'm like, oh, they're showing you in a very specific light. I can see you not like you're not full CP, like the volume's not all the way up. You're just being an amazing actor. It's like, no, I'm just I'm lending to the story, I'm moving the story forward, I am charismatic, and I'm you know what I mean. Just I'm I'm doing my job at a at a high level, but this opens up a whole different world. Because it's like I I'm not even leaning on funny, I'm just being really good here. And I remember hitting you and I was like, bro, how how does it feel? Because I how one, how many times did you break them? And two, how does it feel? Every time. Yeah, and he was like, you said, uh, you say, it's crazy. You said, no, he said you'll never get what you deserve in this business, but it you'll never get the money you deserve. But uh if you stay at it, eventually you'll get reimbursed. Yeah. And you was like, and you say, and I feel, it's like, I've been here the whole time, but now they see me. He's like, I don't know what it is about this project, but now everybody sees me. He was like, who are you? I've been here.

SPEAKER_03 35:15

I'm gonna tell you what, and I think Justin can speak to this too, and London can as well. You gotta show them that you can play. We all are star. We all are a huge star. But you gotta show them that you can play. You can play in the world that they create, right? Like, I don't have to write it to be able to play it. Like I can fit the fit the box that you need me to fit for this particular role. Like, sometimes we wanna be so everything. You you can't get everything out of every role. You can't get the shirt off uh uh fucking um bad boys one moment, breathe. You can't get that on every role. So sometimes, like, you have to, and on Love Life, it's crazy because for the most part, I was in every episode four or five minutes, and that's it. But they was like, that was the you made the episode. But the bottom line is that like that four or five minutes changed my quote. It changed like the respect that people have for me, and they paid me so much money, I had to ask them. I'm like, hey, what's up with all this money? That's a real thing. And and and Paul Figan, Danny Magnetti was like, we want to make a lot of money. And so everybody who associated it with us needs to make a lot of money. Like, we need to, we, we, on purpose, we paid you that. And I'm like, man.

SPEAKER_04 36:35

I'm gonna go to the cookie store.

SPEAKER_06 36:37

When I get back, I'ma want another one of these.

SPEAKER_03 36:42

Because I'ma need it. But I mean, it was like uh basically like I saw the other side of everybody's not hating on you. It's just not your turn all the time. Right. We are all popcorn seeds in the pan with the butter on the heat. Now, if you finagle your way out this pan, you know you ain't gonna never pop. Right? And you might not be the first colonel to pop. But seeing another colonel pop right next to you, and I know this, I know this colonel. It's most one of my best colonels. Pop damn. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's like that should make you feel like, oh, I'm let me let me relax and let me simmer up for my pop. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? It's like, you feel me? But instead, niggas see that and when a move they see, oh, I'm gonna sit right here. Well, you say, I'm gonna, it's like you gotta, there's a panic involved that we have to overcome because it don't even serve you. It don't serve you to panic. It doesn't, it there's nothing in it. You're gonna get everything back. You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga, they reimbursed me. It wasn't, they weren't paying me all of that money to do that season. They was paying me all that money for the last 10 years that it took for me to be this good. You know what I'm saying? And you get it all back. You know what I'm saying? That's that's the dopest part about you get it all back. Yeah, like, oh my god. Like, and so now, of course, you get more money, then you get more bills, and you get more bills, and then everything level out. It sure does. You know what I'm saying? And everything's gonna be a good thing. Yeah, it would get you. Because now you are a rich broke, right? Now you're a new kind of broke. You look amazing, right? You got about 11,000 in your big account. That's that's great for the earlier you, but now you're like, huh, 11? And if I buy a burrito, it's gonna be 10,900, you know what I'm saying? Like 73, you know what I'm saying? It's like, and that's you know, and so it's just like uh That's hilarious, it is. That's really hard to go. And so I just think that, man, um, you gotta relax. You have to relax.

SPEAKER_01 38:52

I wanted to ask about your um, you had anything about it? Uh I was uh no, go ahead. Cause I got something to go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 38:58

I wanted to ask about I got more time too.

SPEAKER_01 39:00

Oh, you do? Oh, okay, cool. Um your comedy special that you put out Sunday after six. I watched it. I did just go, man, though. What'd you think about it? Good job. That was good. Thank you. I mean, I had heard some of them. You seen me working it out. Yeah, I seen you working it out, but it was good. And I I laughed. Because you know, sometimes you watch people's specials and you're like, I get it. Yeah. But I did want to ask, originally it came out on a different platform, and now it's over on Amazon. What went behind that decision?

SPEAKER_03 39:31

So um the original distribution platform was called Veeps, right? And so we shot it independently and we just tried to find somebody to sell it to. At the time, you know, I went Netflix, Hulu, and a couple other places, and they were just like, respectfully, CP, it's just not your time. When it's your time, we're gonna call you. And I'm like, oh bet. Okay, that makes sense. Like, I'm not in no hard feelings.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

Unless you're white. And then we'll call you immediately or you're not prepared yet. If you're white, we'll text you. Yeah, exactly. Maybe having some trash ass comedians sometimes. But anyways.

SPEAKER_03 40:05

And here's what I mean by it's your time. Not your time to blow up, it's your time to be seen. And the people determine whether or not you're gonna blow up. A lot of these white motherfuckers, these whack niggas get these specials. That's it. That's it. You're watching a nigga's period on his sentence. Right. For us, we always think like this is my first special. Nigga, a lot of times, these niggas, these motherfuckers, it'd be their last special. You know what I'm saying? Grant opening, grand closing. You know what I'm saying? Right. And so um, for them to tell me that, and these are people who were fans of CP, it's like respectfully, CP, it's not, it's not your time. We can't take this up the ladder and have motherfuckers being like, who? Who? Because everybody trying to justify their job. Everybody's niggas got jobs. You're not talking to who Lou. You're not talking to Ned, you're talking to the nigga who worked for the nigga who worked for the nigga who worked for the nigga who trying to keep his job by bringing the hottest shit over there. And it it doesn't need to have a who is this guy in it. It doesn't. And so Veeps was like, look, um, I shot the special with 800-pound gorilla. Veeps has a relationship with them, they know them or whatever, they they do a lot of stuff together. And so it was, you know, they were like, yeah, we'll try it on our platform. And after 60 days, we will take it through our channels to Amazon and um uh if the planes want to fuck with it, which they did. That's right. It's on United Airlines right now. Oh, duh. And then it's also on uh Apple for purchase. But um, and it just hit Amazon for free, which is you know, I like that. I like it to just live somewhere where people can just go watch it. Um, but yeah, like uh it was Veeps, and Veeps was the platform that gives you an opportunity with taking a percentage to get paid per stream. And that was cool. I got a little check for that. And then, but it's just it's hard to get your audience to go to a platform that they're not familiar with. It's hard to get them to go over there and be like, all right, so we don't fuck with you over here. They don't, it just doesn't translate like that. A lot of times it's like, I gotta do what? It's a paywall, it's a da-da-da. Nigga, you know, we'll wait until it's on Tubi.

SPEAKER_02 42:12

Yeah. Yeah, I remember McKay was talking about how to get the get the followers over to some of these different other platforms. They're just not accustomed to it. Let me ask you this. Um, with a lot of stuff you got going on, it's always good to have some some. I have a couple questions. But one is um, how does it feel going back home? Has it has the has your buzz from your friend family and friends, have they caught up, have they caught up to them out there?

SPEAKER_03 42:35

Or yeah, man. Um, yeah, they have. And you know, it's it's it's it's interesting, bro, because I wanted them to be a part of their whole process the whole time. So I would go home and tell them, like, yeah, I just gotta deal with so-and-so, and it's and they like, oh okay. But then when they friends at work is sending them a video that they think is funny, not knowing that it's their nephew or their cousin or their uncle, then it's like, my co-worker sent me this. And now it's like, yeah, but now I don't give a fuck. Right. Like now I have everything I ever wanted, and all I wanted was for y'all to be like, we did it. But it wasn't that. It was all you shouldn't do this, and this is, and it's like, I think that honestly, that ruins it. Because I mean let me ask you a question. All of y'all. How many motherfuckers in your family love their job? How many motherfuckers in your family feel like they are getting as much money as they deserve based on the kind of person that they are or how intelligent they are? It's very few. Right? And so if I find something that I love and I'm willing to work hard enough in it to at least try to get what I deserve, why is that not celebrated? Right. Right? Because you don't even get paid what you think you deserve at your job. Right. And there's nothing you can do about it. And you're not in the conversation to be the best uh bus driver, the best CBS worker, the best. Home, depot, work. You're not in the conversation to be the best accountant, the best whatever in the world. You're not in that conversation. Right? So why are you doubting anything that anybody does?

SPEAKER_05 44:12

Right.

SPEAKER_03 44:12

Especially a family member. Right? And so it's like some of my favorite cousins, you know, they they play football. Whole family at their games as if they were gonna make it to the NFL. Because they can see that. I get to my show and I don't know anybody there. And after a while, I started to like it that way. I liked it for strangers. I like to get the recognition from motherfuckers who don't. I love an away game. That started to be my thing. Like, yeah, fuck it. I'ma I'ma go out and create this support system that I want. And so, you know, it's like, it's it's like too late for me to get around my family and enjoy this with them. I kind of just I literally have learned how to turn that part of myself off when I go home. And I'm just Chris, and they ask me about it, I'd be like, oh yeah, I mean, you know, yeah. Do you know so-and-so? Yeah, I whoa, you know. It's like, yeah, it's like it's not as fun as you would think. Because honestly, this is not a respected medium or craft until you Kev, Mike, um, you know, Kat, until you're that. But by the time you that, you look at like Tracy Morgan. I think be like, he don't fuck with his parents. A lot of people just don't, you know what I'm saying? Because it's like, nigga, like, why are you clowning some shit that somebody wanna do?

SPEAKER_05 45:28

And then it's it's to not understand the spectrum, to not understand, no, today I am one of the best to ever do it. Like today, you are one of the best to ever have done comedy. I've I've we've all seen everybody do comedy. Yeah. Like our our our our our our legends and our and I'm saying us sitting in this room and our peers, and we, you know, we know who's who and what what. We could see what's happening. So if you change the time period, scroll this back, and it's the early 90s, 80s when the boom is happening. Our talent ain't subpart of nobody.

SPEAKER_03 46:08

At all. At all. At all. And we're competing with a lot more of a um a less uh interested crowd because there's a lot more at their fingertips as it pertains to entertainment and their attention. Right. Like we're competing with them not having to worry about like they had to come to the comedy club to see a good ass time. And you ain't gotta do that no more. You can you can get online and it's it's uh some funny nigga in Texas who just don't never did comedy, but just know how to say d- and it's like, oh, I'm laughing. We're competing with that, keeping the medium alive. They they they were a part of the birth and the boom. We're a part of the beep, beep, the life support of it.

SPEAKER_02 46:51

It's a whole different struggle that we have to do. Let me ask you how would your 10-year-old self like view your life now?

SPEAKER_03 46:59

That nigga would be so geek. That nigga would be so geek, man. Like, you know, just because we doing it. We doing exactly, you know, not we we're just using our imagination, bro. We just being a fucking crazy zany ass nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like, yes, bro, he is he is absolutely, we got all the games, we got all the jords, we got all you know what I'm saying, like nigga, yes, we did it, little nigga. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 47:23

I want to know how the um did the LOL, the hot mic come into you? Like, how did how were you approached about that?

SPEAKER_03 47:29

So um we had a comedy show called uh Two Funny Tuesdays. I know y'all have all have done Two Funny Tuesdays, and so um it was just something that was kind of on our own. Like I had done crack 'em up, and when I started to see what we were doing, crack 'em up, was that the door guy would tell me, like, man, these these folks here to see you. They're coming and saying, we here for the CP show. Like, no, it's called Crack 'em up. And so I'm like, oh. And I'm getting like, you know, Nichelle, shout out to Nichelle. Like, shout out to Nelle.$50 a week. You know what I'm saying? I spent$26 to park in the fucking structure next door. You know what I'm saying? And so I had to realize, like, dawg like, let me try to get my own show in LA and build up the lure with me. And so I did that along with my team. Shout out to Ryan and Ronnie and uh Brian. Ricky and Mike.

SPEAKER_07 48:24

Right, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 48:26

You know what I'm saying? Shout out to the new edition. Right. You know what I'm saying? But it just started to get popular because my homeboy uh Ryan, y'all know light skinned Ryan from Canada. His wife, Sydney, works with the NBA and works with a lot of players. So see, it'd be like we do on our show. Kay Cunningham, Paul Pierce, um uh uh uh Sadiq Bay, you know, all these guys are coming to the shows and it's starting to get hot. Now they bring in the women, right? So now it's, you know, the hot ass motto chicks. And then you got Kiki Palmer over there who's friends with Ronnie's wife, and it started to just get popular. And they would invite their friends. And so what happened was one of the executives from LOL, um, I did a uh a um a podcast with Amanda Seals. Like I did one of her episodes, and that was on LOL at the time. And so uh he came to the show. He's like, Man, I like this, man. You ever thought about doing something on the radio? I'm like, man, shut up, man. Whatever. He's like, no, I'm serious. We're looking for a comedy show. We don't want it to be affiliated with nothing. We don't want to do a D-Ray's or a chocolate sundays or you know, whatever. We want to just do something that's unique to a voice that we like. And they wasn't bullshitting. They came through and, you know, got it approved. And so first time I had a conversation with Kev about it was at um Heartbeat Weekend in Vegas. And we did it up there, and Kevin and Nico came to the show, and they just was they was fucking with it. And he was like, Yeah, man, I'm glad we're doing this. I met the whole Heartbeat staff and just, you know, grateful for the relationship and just trying to stay professional. Just like, yeah, let me just keep killing it, keep putting my head down, and just keep doing it. And it started to really get big. My dad is a truck driver, so like he like, man, I hear it on the radio because I play the satellite radio shit all the time. And it's like, that was dope to me. It's for my dad to hear it. Because regardless of my family and what they all say, my mom and dad are like my literally, like you look at Eddie Murphy Raw and that little sketch beforehand where his parents, like, then he said that doo-doo line. Like, like that, that's my mom and dad. Like, this nigga go, you know what I'm saying? I'm the only child, so I'm really just their little best friend. It's the greater family that was like, he ain't gonna be y'all letting that boy curse. And you know what I'm saying? But yeah, my mom and dad are like, they fuck with it heavy. Like my mom was at my first show ever. Oh, wow. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, you know, so I let me say that when I say family, I don't mean my parents, you know what I'm saying? Like, because they are responsible for what I have going on. But like, you know, it's it's the grandparents, you know. My my my grandfather died thinking that I need to do something better with my life, and that fucked me up. Because I'm like, nigga, you need to do something better with your life, nigga. Your truth, brother. Get your shit together. You know what I'm saying? But no, but you know what I'm saying, it's like, you know, um you want to roast, nigga? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 51:20

You know what I'm saying? So uh on uh set the when things are coming and happening like back to back and you're feeling the heat and feeling that momentum, uh I want to talk about Run the World because I remember hitting you because I was like, it was the setup. I was like, it felt like a beautiful tee-up. It was like it it still allowed you to play in both worlds of uh we got to see more CP, but no, I'm still a great actor, still service service, still playing, you know, playing ball.

SPEAKER_03 51:54

What I liked about Run the World was that they allowed me to play like a boyfriend and like a sexy, because you know, we funny and we don't even think about being the what this nigga do. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Uncle Marvin over here, you know what I'm saying? But you know, we, you know, like that was never my goal. It's always been like, man, that'd be dope to, you know what I'm saying? Like, nigga, I'm talking about like that that character's name was Preston, and like my mom's friends was like, ooh, Chris is a uh You know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh damn Auntie, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 52:29

It was like pop mogul, it was like it felt.

SPEAKER_03 52:32

And then to play off of Brisha Webb, who is one of the funniest women. Like, Brisha is like Jim Carrey funny. Absolutely. Like, she just don't stop. It was just going crazy. And so you just get a chance to get as wacky with her as you can, but also play in that space. Um, yeah, it was just like a it was it was the perfect storm for me to be able to be um, you know, just like like I then was Billy D. Williams and that shit. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, that was really cool.

SPEAKER_01 52:59

Uh good. I I wanted to know, you know, sometimes you'll see a comedian that'll make you like step your game up. You know what I'm saying? So like I remember when um when I first moved out here, everybody was talking about Clayton. Like see, you're like, you're a Clayton Thomas, you're a Clay Thomas. Then it was, then it was Tony Bacon, you're a Tony Bog, Tony Bacon, Tony Bacon. Then it was fucking Gerard Carmer. You're a German Gerard Carmica, Gerard. And now it's CP. Like, you the name that people hear consistently out and about. When I'm out, I remember I came back from doing MacGyver. It's like, what's going on around here? Got some money, got some money in my pocket. What's happening in the nigga?

SPEAKER_03 53:37

This nigga was celebrated. The fucking five minutes of this nigga snip, like nigga people recognize me. I've always kept an eye on this nigga. Yeah, always. Because I was like, I didn't know who you was. And when you got rushed out, I was like, who the fuck is this nigga? They give me the callbacks and everything. Then I see the deadline, that's the line. I'm like, who the fuck? Then I saw my um King Play. This nigga's following me. I'm over here watching. But it's like, uh, man, honestly, I think that to your point, I remember when it was Gerard, I remember when it was Tony, and I was in Detroit when it was Clayton, but I remember Detroit Clayton coming back. And if you know Clayton, uh like you can't give Clayton one compliment. And then that didn't come back like, well, you know who I am. I'm a king, and I'm up for uh and it's stuck like Kim coming back to Detroit. He was just so like, all right, now you know what's your name? Cool, cool, man. Stay at it. Anyway, you know what I'm saying? Stay at it, man. Stay at it, man. Kelly Cash.

SPEAKER_06 54:44

Yeah, stay at it. Kelly Cash.

SPEAKER_03 54:47

And so uh, shout out to Clayton, man. You know, Clayton, one of the people who let me sleep on his couch. Clayton almost got into an accident driving me to Fox to sell my first show.

unknown 54:58

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 54:59

Shout out to me. He was like, he was like, imagine this. I'm like, yeah, I gotta be at the Fox lot. We in Burmain. I have no idea how LA works. I'm like, yeah, I gotta be there in uh 25 minutes. Nigga, 25 minutes? What are you doing? Culver City. Nigga, this nigga and this nigga. We got in this damn pickup truck he had, nigga. This nigga was driving. He hit somebody, his mirror folded back. He said, nigga, fuck you.

SPEAKER_04 55:21

I was like, damn.

SPEAKER_01 55:25

I was like, wow. So, but so who who are who's the comedian? Because there's been shows where I've like I've been on shows with you, I've been on shows with Tony Baker, I was like, alright, man, I gotta I gotta be a little funny tonight. Because sometimes I don't be feeling like being funny. But when I on shows with certain comedians, I'm like, ah, I can't be the worst nigga tonight. You know, who's some comedians or a comedian when you see them perform, you like, I gotta step it up tonight.

SPEAKER_03 55:49

I'm such a fan of Ron Taylor. Oh, Ron Taylor's hilarious. Now, when I first uh met Ron Taylor, we both from Detroit. I went on vacation. Nigga, I knew I shouldn't have gone on this damn vacation. I get back two weeks off of comedy. Two weeks, what's going on, everybody? CP is here. They're like, yeah, yeah, but have you seen Ron Taylor? I'm like, who the fuck is this cute chip head nigga? This nigga come on there, man, and he's just like, he's funny in a completely different way than I had ever seen. He's funny through vulnerability. He's funny through, you know, like not being what he wanted to be. You know what I'm saying? It's like, holy shit. Like he's taking his his slights and turning them into lights. And so when I peeped at, I was like, holy fuck. I'm like, nigga, um, I need to be your friend, bro. Like, you know, and so we used to go, we used to go to these to a restaurant called Coney Island in Detroit, and we would sit there after the club, and we we we we we would write, just write and roast, you know, uh, and then it'd be more people coming. So now like Jeff Horace would come with us, and then it'd be um a guy named Josh Adams from Detroit would come with us, and uh Darius uh Bennett would come with us. And so we all around a table just writing because um we could see it in each other. And so then they want to form a group. And I never forget they'd like CP, we're all a group. I'm like, nigga, we ain't no fucking group, nigga. Nigga, this is golf. Nigga playing basketball. Right. And they formed a group, the Motown Laugh Kings, and I was left out. And I remember they used to come through in a full force, little shirts and shit. And I used to be like, man, fuck y'all. You know what I'm saying? Because I was already in the front. I'm like, man, what the fuck? But uh, yeah, man, like Ron Taylor is one of those guys, man, who um his comedy, his personality, his presence is so different from mine that it's like I get a chance to enjoy it unequivocally without feeling threatened or anything. I'm just like, wow. Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 57:48

That's also to what you're saying. I think that's what made cats like him not corny because they just embrace and say, Well, this is this is me. And that's appreciated as opposed to, you see, Cats. I'm like, bro, you're trying to be a CP, you're trying to be a BT. Just do your thing. Exactly. You're way stronger doing that than trying to be what you think. That's why I actually appreciate your stand-up as well. Which I think sometimes we we only, or at least I've I've always was always told, like, you gotta always talk about the life, the life, the life. But I can also appreciate Jerry Seinfeld. He's way over there. And he ain't got no problem staying over there talking about how great cotton is. Yeah, and so forth. But so it's nice that you have, you're talking about your imagination, just being open to seeing the world differently. Because as you mentioned with Craig Smith, I'm like, what did he? How did he come up with that analogy? We made him go way over that, and they quit. Y'all quick. I'm like, I appreciate what you saw, Ron. I appreciate within you guys uh your different angles. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 58:54

Well, we got a game, but before we get to this game, do you smoke weed or do mushrooms? Because I be thinking about your joke sometimes. I'm like, it gotta be some sort of substance that he's using. So, okay, so the weed helps you to rant.

SPEAKER_03 59:09

The weed helps you to um I look at it like uh remember uh duck tails? Ooh, when they was running and the floor was falling out, and they had to run before the floor fell out. Weed makes the floor come up for me. So as I walk, the floor just comes up with the weed. Um The shrooms, every now and then I'll take some shrooms because I'm scared to mess my brain up, right? I'm scared to get too sensitive and realize something and then never want to play in that space again. Um so the shrooms not really so much, but the weed for sure. And my wife be like, you talk too much when you're on the weed. I do because the more words are coming, right? Um, but that's it, man. I don't drink. I might um shrooms every now and then. I smoke weed, bro, uh a little bit every day. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like a little joint, maybe a joint and a half a day, and that's then the whole 24 hours. But I do think that um having those receptors firing off in my brain about you know, whatever it's doing, it's doing something. For sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:13

Yeah. The uh Regibow. When when because we was right, we're right on, we what is the antithesis for this character? And what what do you see for Regibow? Man, so for you, for you to take all your hilariousness and also have as a puppeteer, and I'm also writing, and it's like it's a lot of different worlds you're living in, but Regibow is uh Regibou is an escape for me.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:40

Regie Bo is like um Reggie is like the sawdust. Right? It's it's like the stuff that I don't know what to do with. Right. Shit that I can't say because I don't want to get cancelled or because I'm married. I can't say about you know women and that, but like Reggie Bo is like something anonymous for me. And you've been around me doing Reggie Bo where it's like it's not even me no more. Like I didn't know Reggie Bo killed BT one time, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:06

Killed me a few times. Yeah, it's the puppet. Regie Book.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:09

I've never seen you actually do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:11

Oh my god. Oh my god, you I mean him and him and CT have a uh like a whole series. A whole series where Reggie Bo just do it. So and it is hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:20

It's on YouTube?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:21

It's on YouTube, you know. Reggie Bo's a puppet. This is like my first, this is like back in 2018. We started doing this when I was on that CBS holding deal. I was uh going with CT doing this. And you're talking about three and four hundred thousand views on videos. So then I started selling merch. Then I'm selling Reggie Bo shirts and hats and socks, and and it's like a whole nother world than CP. Reggie Bo's a he's weed, but he he he a pound. So why you stopped doing it? So I sold it to TBS. Um TBS. TBS, yeah. And we did a pilot, and it was a horrible situation with this pilot because I didn't understand how much power I had at the time. And so casting it, it was a crazy story I want to tell y'all. I can't explain it, bruh. Like, I don't know how I know how to puppeteer, and I've been with the best puppeteers in the world because of Reggie Bo. So, like, Elmo hit my phone, like, yo, you're self-taught, huh? I'm like, yeah, he's like, Yeah, I could tell, I'm self-taught. Jim Henson called me on Christmas one year. Like, we want to talk to you about what you're doing with this puppet. Because it looked like a Muppet and is doing his fucking bitches and it's doing all this shit, and it can't do that. You mean Jim Henson, like, son? No, no, Jim Henson, the company. Oh, the company.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:36

I'm about to say this nigga's died. He's dead.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:38

He's been dead a long time. Yeah, and so I went to Jim Henson's company on uh La Brea, I think it was. They got the big frog on the roof, and uh, yeah, all the fragile rocks, all the Emmys, I'm sitting there with my puppet, and they're basically like, look, this is how it's gonna go. And so um they just they just put me on in that world. Um and I've done a few other puppet projects, people would never even know it was me, because I was literally under the puppet. But yeah, I worked with some of the Sesame Street people, like being self-taught, doing that shit for my daughter, making her laugh, and then fucking crazy. Wow, I did not know any of that, bro. So like that, you know, I made a little money fucking with Reggie Bo, you know, but um He has like his own following. Yeah. Like I'm a brown to the side of CP. Wow. To the point where they be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where's Reggie Bo? And I'd be like, nigga, I'm doing stand-up. You ever thought about Reggie Bo?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:28

You ever thought about collabing them? Like doing them together on a show?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:31

I have done it before, but the setup has to be perfect. I did it at this little black box in Detroit where they had an upstairs with a curtain and I could go upstairs and do it, and it had the spotlight on it. Um but once you sell it, the IP is caught up in a weird purgatory situation. So that's why I took it to YouTube, and that's why I rebranded it with I'm a pound and all of that.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:53

On uh in the stand-up space, so we talked about your mental for roasting. I I feel like the dynamic for the imagination uh adjacent to reality is also your style for how you write in general, but the material is like so amazingly crafted. How do you decide how far you're gonna go with a bit? How do you decide the commitment? Because you'll be in a bit. You'll be in one conceptual bit with these high laughs per minute, all these plugs, all these act outs. Tagged up, punched up. Tagged up, punched up, and it might be 25 a 30-minute bit.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:31

Because, man, bro, honestly, it's that thing where you see you ever see somebody who could freestyle rap real good without saying nothing gay? Right, right. You know what I'm talking about? You ain't gotta be gay, but you be like, Bite a nigga did.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:45

Oh shit, I didn't mean that what I meant to say. You know what I'm saying? Right?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:49

Because what happens is a lot of times your mouth can move faster than your brain. And that's okay if you trust it. If you trust what your mouth can say, if you have if you trust what you're gonna say, you can let yourself freestyle. That's what I noticed with these rapper dudes. Like, they can just be going because they kind of trust what they're gonna say, right? I think that like I trust how I'm thinking, and I just go. Like, I don't, I don't second guess it at all. And when it comes down to a bit that I feel like I've squosed all of the juice out of it, a lot of times, bro, I'm saying it in my head all day, and I'm practicing it all day in my mind because I'm excited to say it. You know, I'm I'll be excited to say the shit. So like I can't wait to get to the to the stage to try it out. So a lot of times the bits feel fleshed out because by the time I'm saying it on stage, I didn't practice the shit in my head and I didn't drive in, you know. You know how many times I'll bust out laughing and my wife be like, What? I'll be like, You don't even want to know. You know what I'm saying? You don't even want to know what the fuck I'm thinking about. But it's like uh that is my style. I I don't wanna say it until I'm confident. In it, and I'm just confident in a lot of the shit that I say. It's a lot of shit that I don't say. You know, I got that joke about my cousin, right? Um, that joke is 11. That joke is 11 years old. What? Wow. Yes, that joke is 11 years old. The first time I told it, man, I wasn't look, and I tell all my young homies this young comics, your your arsenal of jokes is like your wardrobe, right? It's yours. I have like 400 jokes. Some of them are too big for me right now. And I gotta get a little bigger. I gotta grow to be able to fit that joke. I have to be the person who can tell that. You you can't just tell everything that you know. You know what I'm saying? Because sometimes motherfuckers are like, who you think you are? Right. You know what I'm saying? Like you have to be able to fit that material at the perfect time. And so, like that joke, I wrote it so long ago, and I went back and revisited, like, man, I'm a way better comedian now. I could fill these sleeves in real good. I could, I could put this bitch on now and really rock it. Right?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:05

11 years old, bro. That is hilarious. Cause I know uh sometimes like, especially because of LA, like I'll have bits where it's like, this is a really chunky bit. I know it works, um, but LA, I don't want to keep doing this joke in LA. It's for a special, yeah, they'll sit over there. And then when it's time to film, then you see it, or I have bits where it's like, this joke really only works if you've been watching me for 15 or 20 minutes. Yeah, it's like if I do it, if I showcase what this is gonna be like, wait, what the fuck was that? You know what I'm saying? But but I I don't know how many. That's a long joke for it to be, you've had it this whole time and it never saw it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:50

And it wasn't that long back then, right? I was hitting the points quick. I didn't know how to breathe it out, right? Um I have a joke about breastfeeding, right? Where I can't tell that joke unless I have 20 minutes to lead me into it so that the audience can trust me enough to say something so outlandish. Yes, yes, because they will turn on me if I bro. I've done it. I've tried to, I felt like I was losing the crowd. I was in Dayton, Ohio. I'm like, eh, eh, eh. Defeated. And it was like, and this lady jumped up and tried to fight me. She tried to, she, listen, listen. This lady did a swim move on the uh security, like she was Sean Merriman. Like she was like, get her. Tackle the bitch, you know what I'm saying? Um But you have to be, you know, like we have to be uh, you gotta be careful about doing material that you have not earned the trust for. And nobody's gonna tell you that. They're just gonna say that wasn't a good job, or they're not. But really, what it is is you have to get them on your side to really get into your shit for real. So sometimes you gotta come out and bullshit a couple jabs, and then you gotta start swinging for real. But if you come out there swinging with, hey man, because you fuck around and miss, nigga, somebody gonna beat your ass. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I know. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:11

What do you say that? What do you say? You know, I'll do a gay joke or something like video game players, you know. And I've been on stage for five minutes. Who is that? This nigga, what? Yeah, yes. I've been there.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:25

Because you go full commitment, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have you have big act outs and full commitments.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:29

I do, and then sometimes I just have certain jokes that I want to do. And so let's say you do uh crack em up Thursdays, and you know you got seven minutes, you're like, nigga, I'm trying this joke tonight. Right. And I'm gonna be on stage for seven minutes, but like you said, that ain't enough time to build up to somebody.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:45

So, like, really, casts like us who are on the road, you're gonna do it on the road. Right? And so a lot of times that's where it gets honed at. And then you come back to LA, and LA, I always say this, LA is for the show. It ain't just about show business. This is the showcase city. For sure. If the whole game is show business, New York and LA are the show. Everywhere else is just business. Atlanta's business. Right. Right? Chicago's business. You know what I'm saying? Like, LA and New York are about the show, right? New York is more or less um the gym, the dojo, whatever you want to call it, because you're gonna be working out so much. But LA is like, nigga, have your shit ready to go. This is not an open mic city like that. Like, and that's why a lot of open micers stay open micers, because nigga, you're not ready for real. That's okay because LA is still a city. And you gotta go in whatever city you in and practice and get your shit up, but just know that you're not gonna be seeing the results that you see from a Justin Hires, a BT, you know, a London, unless you have the show ready. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you're an open micro, bro, you're not moving the needle for real. You're just practicing, and that's cool. But you gotta be ready for the show show. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:58

You know what I'm saying? That's a fact. Not to cut you off, this is real quick, but to what you're saying, uh, shout out to David Arnold. But he was talking about the because I remember early on saying that same thing, which is sometimes we gotta grow into these jokes. We we got them. But whether that's the the amount of stage time, not really having a clear voice, and there have been jokes like you pull out the bag, you're like, oh, now I'm ready. I couldn't talk about relationships the way I do now. Then I wasn't even gotta live some life. You had that opinion about it. You were you, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's a good point, man. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:34

We got a game on here. Let's get it. Let's get it.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:36

We got a game on here. We got time now. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:39

Right, right, right. I definitely want to do this game with you. Kill it or let live. All right, kill it or let live. I'm gonna throw out a topic. You're gonna say whether we should kill it, you're not messing with it, or let it live. It's all good. Okay. Kill it or let live. Having 100 million followers on every social media platform, but you gotta participate in a ditty party.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:03

Kill it, nigga. Kill it. On every platform. You selling our shows. He's doing that. Look at this nigga. He's the way.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:17

You know what's crazy, bro? And you might remember this. That show that CT almost crashed his car for me to sell was my first show I ever sold, and I attached Diddy to it. What? Speak on it. This nigga so crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:36

Speak on it.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:37

Go ahead. Listen, listen, listen. So I have a new special coming out. Uh it's called Cigarettes. I don't know if y'all seen my cigarettes. Have you seen my cigarettes? Absolutely. Um, and so uh I'm about to film it. Um I can't tell y'all where or when, but it's gonna get filmed very soon. Um and uh I hate cigarettes, right? Just know that going into this story. I hate cigarettes. All right, so um I have a show called uh Dexter Elementary, right? And we ended up changing it to Brightmore Elementary, but those are the two neighborhoods that I'm from, Dexter and Brightmore. And so in Detroit. And so um the show was essentially gonna be a black South Park. I remember that. I remember the article about it. And so what happens is I'm coming off of uh I did uh the whole first season of Empire, right? And what I learned is that these niggas, I'm on set. It's music producers on set because they're writing songs to sell songs after the episodes, right? So like Drip Drop and What Is Love. Like when the episode goes off, credits roll on the screen, go to Apple Music and you can buy the song. Now imagine if The Simpsons would have released Lisa, it's your birthday as a downloadable song. It's about 7 million Lisas. All you need is the Lisa. Yeah, and the Pope, and the motherfuckers who fuck with them. All you need is Lisa. And it would have gone quadruple diamond platinum, right? So I'm writing this show, and right before I pitch it, I say, you know what? I'm coming off of Empire. We need, just in case the fucking um, the theme song goes crazy, just in case, you know, we want to do a rap on here or something. I want producers because I want to be able to sell this music because that's this extra money on top of everything. And it's a different element. And Empire was huge at the time, right? So um one of the producers was like, yeah, uh, we could talk, take this to Diddy and talk to Diddy about it. I'm like, hell yeah, back then, my nigga's Diddy. Fuck yeah, why not? Right? I would let it go to a Diddy party, right? We're gonna clip that. Let it go to a Diddy party. And so um they put me with one of his handlers, right? A lady named Sarah. And uh we have to have a meeting with her before I meet with him. It's like if it's worth his time, right? And so uh me and my writing partner went, and it's uh her and it's this Asian young lady barely speaks any English. This is her first week in LA. She went on to be the Asian alien in Guardians of the Galaxy with the little shit on her hair. Her name was like Pang or Ping or something like that. Anyway, um, she's trying to, I guess, meet with some people too. And so we're all sitting there. Sarah hands me a cigarette. You smell cigarettes? I was like, no, no. Yeah, you do. Yeah, I'm like, oh shit. So the idea is, right? And so basically they're they're vetting me to see if I'm Diddy meeting material or whatever, right? So we didn't hear back for like a week. I'm like, fuck it, we just we we still gotta pitch the show. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'll figure out a producer later, right? We go to FX, we piss the show, they buy it in a room. First time this ever happened for a lot of my partners, but I knew, like, dog, I'm killing this pitch, and I know how to I know how to get them excited. I know how to talk money talk to them, right? They geeked. Yes, we love it. Bye, blah, blah, blah. We got to uh my manager at the time, his office, and he was he wasn't really my manager, but he's my manager. Uh he was that's just my homeboy. He was a huge manager in the business, but he just hadn't signed me yet. Um so we we we ringing the bell. We sold the show. CP from Detroit, uh, sold the show, right? All of a sudden, they get a call. It's Diddy. Right? Now he wants to meet. But he don't know we sold the show. So I'm like, well, we don't need him now. They're like, nah, you don't blow Diddy off. I'll just let it go. I'll let it go. You go take that meeting, pitch it to him, don't tell him you sold it. Just pitch it to him. And if he likes it, then we can attach him as if we're gonna sell it. The worst advice ever. We go to the studio, it's kind of like this, but the whole wall is glass. Me and my partner sitting in there, we got the little uh the little pitch poster, Diddy in there in the full studio session. Right? The whole time. I'm sitting there watching, like, damn. I can't even hear the music because it's like soundproof. But I mean, I'm gonna fuck like I can hear it because I can see him. Right? Ciroc bottles and baby oil in the room. Right, you know what I'm saying? Right. Sirack bottles with baby oil in it. Whatever. So anyway, so he comes into the room, uh, you know, what's up, what's up, what's up? How y'all doing? You know, my name is Diddy Sean. You feel me? I'm like, holy shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:32

That's actually pretty Gary. Yeah. I don't know if you uh I guess I didn't know you do voices. A little bit, a little bit. That's the key, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:39

Go ahead, I'm listening. And so I'm I'm pitching so you know, uh-huh. Yeah, I like that. I like that. And I can see it too. You take out some weeds, spark up a joint. I ain't gonna lie, Playboy, you got me going with this one. I like this shit a lot. It's the culture. It's the culture. You a good dude. I like how you I'm like, oh, this nigga fucking with my shit, right? We dapping up. I'm like, this nigga cool than the motherfucker. About a week goes by, like, cool. He's like, if you can just pull down your trousers, you can just pull down your trousers.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:12

So uh, he's a wild car. This nigga like so he's not gonna let it go.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:16

He's not gonna let it go. And so uh, can you nut on my nipple? No, but um, and so uh we leave in. I say, uh, my nigga, it's always a treat when the real niggas meet. He said, God damn, I like that, Playboy. Always a treat when the real niggas meet. I fuck with that. Great meeting. I say, alright, cool, let's wait about three or four days and then give him the call. Be like, we sold it, right? He thinks we sold it because of him. Right. That makes sense. Because y'all got me on it. Of course y'all sold it. Of course y'all did, Playboy. Y'all got me on it. Okay, yeah, whatever. You know what I'm saying? We sold it. He like, alright, cool. I call FX. I swear to God. They're like, what have you done? We didn't tell them. We had an internal meeting about attaching Diddy. Because they gotta write him a check now. They gotta write him a fucking check. They're like, what have you done? No, it was like it was it was like a nigga said candyman in the mirror five times. It was like, what have you done? No. Anybody, but they're like, no. No, I can't believe you. I'm like, yeah, we you know, we already did this. And so he comes in and takes over to the point where it's six months just to do his contract. Damn. Because he wants everything. Yeah, he wanted everything. We getting like 90 bands for the script. He wants all of it. Draws, too. Nigga. Come on, man. He's gonna give me fuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:52

Y'all know about CP story?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:56

Listen. So, you know, the the deadline article comes out. It's about me and Diddy. Diddy got a new show coming out. This little kid is writing it. Like, nigga, that's not even the case. Nigga, it's my show. This nigga's gonna do the music. Deadline come out, Diddy. NCP. Diddy over here. NCP. And I'm like, damn, I don't like this. Oh, wow. But it's like, fuck it. You know, I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna get my little bread or whatever, whatever, write the script. FX is checked out. But they already, they already did the contract, but they like, nigga. If I knew what I knew now, I could have told, oh, this shit ain't gonna never see the air. Like, like, they're not gonna let this come out. Because they don't want to be in business with this nigga. Because they know. Like, they know. Nigga, this is these are the top executives. They know exactly what the fuck is going on. Oh, wow. And they probably looking at me like, you little baby oil bitch. You know what I'm saying? Baby oil bitch. So I'm like, um, I have no contact with Diddy once the contract is signed. Does not hit me up. I go to the Manny Al, to the uh Pacquiao and uh Floyd fight. My homies living. They like, nigga, Diddy having a party, nigga. Don't try and got a show together. Let's get up, nigga. I'm like, nigga, I don't know this nigga like that, you know? And I'm now I'm mad at this nigga Diddy. I mean, fuck Diddy. Man, this nigga don't never hit me up, nigga never, mind you. Thank God, you know what I'm saying? Straight up. So the show, I'm talking about like, it just it gets they don't pick it up. We turn it in the pilot. The pilot is dope too. It's so funny. These little kids, I got, I got like animated, like um renderings, like the animation was out cold, like it was all that it just doesn't go because this nigga, his presence inside of this circle, like ruined it. It fucking ruined it. And that was my first intro to um all money ain't good money, and all select like is there is a hierarchy within the this Hollywood world. I was outside looking in still. There's a hierarchy in here where like I didn't understand that the real feat is that I sold a show from Detroit, green as fuck, in the room, they ready to make me a star. Me listening to my inner voice, I'm lucky. I need to sweeten the pot, make sure that I I ruined it trying to make it bigger. They was like, nigga, we're gonna make you a star. Like, we see it in you. FX, too. And they got some heaters. Bro, they wanted something to pair with Archer. They wanted a black family guy, South Park, boondocky kind of situation to come right on after Archer. We had a time slot and everything. Oh, wow. Damn. And it's like, nah, we good. And so, and then, you know, Diddy ruined it, and then danced the fuck away with the bread, and I never heard from him or them again. What'd you learn from that? Um I learned that particular time I learned that all celebrities not good celebrities. I learned that um, I learned that I need to take a second look at who I am. For how you gonna approach it. Well, no, just like yo, like these people saw it in me. And I'm trying to see it in this nigga. Yeah. Like, nigga, that's like, that's like saying, like, that that's like meeting a girl and y'all feeling each other and it's cool, it's cool. And then she'd be like, yeah, this is my fat homegirl. I think y'all to be prepared for each other. You like, bitch, I thought we was. Right. You know what I'm saying? I I don't want this big bitch. I thought we was, you know what I'm saying? Like, you don't want me.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:48

I mean, she told me you was cool.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:50

I thought we were gonna have a good show.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:52

She told me you was cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:53

You know what I'm saying? And that's and so I learned a valuable lesson in that. Then the next show with the Reggie Bull shows where I learned that as an executive producer, I gotta, I I have to stop being so nice to these white folks and really say what I want and mean what I say and really do it. Because they came into it and took over. And I was like, and and so the cast wasn't what I wanted, not knowing that I could have been like, no, I want him, and that would have been it. They were like, no, you know what we think you should do? This guy, and I'm like, yeah, fuck, I'm trying to get paid. Nigga, I don't give a fuck about none of these people, I gotta get paid, so fuck it. Right. Meanwhile, the perfect mix of my motherfuckers who been who could have been around me, I didn't do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:35

See, that's how they played me on halfbake too.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:37

Same way. I was gonna say you uh just had made an interesting point about the um you said something about the pitching, pitching and the show uh getting made. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:46

Yeah, well, I mean, he kind of well, he answered that one, but that is something I was thinking about because you talked about how you had sold three or four shows, and I was wanted to know, like, how come or why did you think those shows didn't move forward? Different reasons, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:25:01

Um The Reggie Bo show, uh, I wanted TK Kirkland to play my dad. Okay. He didn't kill the audition. But I don't give a fuck, nigga. Because that's who I want to play my dad. This audition has nothing to do with what I see in him. Right. But they, the powers that be, were like, we like we like Aries Spears. I'm like, nigga, what the fuck do y'all? I don't got nothing to do with this, you know what I'm saying? But I knew who Aries Spears was. I'm like, fuck, he that nigga, cool, I guess. TK called me, like, nigga, I give you a hundred bands right now in a duffel bag to play your dad. To play my dad. Because he was like, you know, the industry has been trying to blackball me for that Eddie Murphy shit. Da da da da. Fucking with you, having a resurgence in what I want to do can change my career and my life. Because you're hot, you're the young hot nigga in the executives. Like, I didn't really catch popularity with my peers until later on in the years. Yeah, you was industry hot first. But with the executives, it was oh, this. Have you heard about this guy CP? He's a and so like he like, I need you, bro. And I'm like, nigga, I wish I could help you, bro. Exactly. And I'm like, I wish I could help you. Now I'm looking back, I'd have been like, nigga, give me the hundred bands. I'll go in there, but listen, shut the fuck up, everybody. My dad is TK Kirkland, and that's how it's gonna be. And they'd have been like, oh, for sure. Nothing.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:20

Quinta Brunson basically did that with Abbott Elementary. They wanted different cast members, and she like, nah, I want these, these people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:26

And look at it now. And then also, too, sometimes, you know, what I realized is that I know a lot of talented actors, they don't necessarily kill the auditions, but give them some time to digest that material and they out of here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:39

Because guess what? As actors, we we get jaded and we stop being invested in these auditions. Bro, I remember early on, you would do an audition, you'd be like, you, you, you, you in the car, like, I'm gonna probably buy me a Benz first. And then uh hook my arm up. You know what I'm saying? You like in your mind, you were so invested in every role. After a while, it started being like, what's the size?

SPEAKER_00 1:27:04

Let's do this.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:05

Oh, yeah. I was just talking about when you were when you were talking to your doctor, I was talking about that. Yeah. Um kill it or let live. Hooking up with a white woman on Juneteenth.

unknown 1:27:19

Slipping.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:20

Oh, I thought you were gonna say or. No, ain't no or, goddammit. Hook it up with a white woman on Juneteenth. If I wasn't married. If you wasn't married, sure. I'm gonna let it live. Because I'm gonna tell you something.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:38

This for all my niggas in the struggle. You know what I'm saying? For all the slaves who didn't make it. Mm-hmm. What's the other one? I'm about to take this white bitch down through there.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:47

Down through there.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:49

You know what I'm saying? All right, kill it or let live. People listening to music in public spaces without headphones.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:58

Man, listen.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:02

One of them big ass motorcycles robot and the other day tell us boom boom boom boom bum boom bum boom I was like oh shit, my nigga you got it It's really what you listen to So let that live man That's a good point I respect that That is a good point Okay Kill it Let live Eating ass right after she's left the gym Your wife It don't gotta be your wife Let it live Come on man be like Okay The gray leggings with the little leg spot Okay Kill it or let live you get to experience Okay Kill it or let live You get to experience time travel But you only get to explore slavery So you get to come back from this Yeah you get to come back if you make it back Like every night I come back Liz can I tell you something Time travel you didn't enter time travel I'ma let that live because I'ma go back I'ma be doing all kinds of Drake verses and stuff nigga be like this nigga can spit can spit just be a new Negro spiritual nigga That'll be a legend nigga what's the legend uh killin the Let Live Um Oh Killin' the Let Live Starring in movies for the rest of your life, but they will only be seen on Tubi.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:16

Who broke these goddamn books? Look, so uh I'ma let it live, man, because y'all saw Damascus, right? Martin went over there. It's like bro, who you are over there, it matters. So nigga, I forgot on turn to be in the HBO. That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? You gotta you gotta do what you can with what you got.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:39

It is all right. This is the last, I think it's the last one. I like this game. You like it? Oh, good, go, go, go, go, go. Oh, I got I got two more. Kill it or let live. Uh, you meet your celebrity crush, she's gonna let you smash, but a coochie's thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:54

Kill it.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:56

Gotta kill that.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:56

Kill it, man. Even no. No.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:58

Who your crush? Who your celebrity crush? I don't want to talk about it. It's still time.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:06

But kill it. Yeah, I'm gonna say kill it.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:10

I ain't gonna say nothing else. I'm gonna say kill it. This is my last one. Well, I'm only gonna say this because I I I I mean, because I saw your special last night is why I mentioned the first one about the eating ass. Uh just think you was talking about washing your ass and stuff like that. Um, but here's the last one. Um kill it or kill it or let live. You're the richest man in the world. Let it live. We ain't done. You're the richest man in the world, but you can only eat using your booty hole. You gotta grab it with your butt cheeks, too.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:45

Does my ass have teeth?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:49

No. You gotta gum it. You gotta gum it.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:53

It's fucking ass nigga.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:57

Here's what I imagine, right? Yeah, let's say this angle. I'm rich as fuck, okay? You're rich as fuck. I'm at a party, okay? We're we're we're talking exactly, exactly. My man comes around with the little uh with the little caviar, he prepares it, you know, he got the little thing. Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:15

And so my whole thing is it Why do they like the way they are? Those are good. Two more please. Two more those are delicious.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:29

Now, to eat these, would you pull your pants down, son? Or do you have one of the uh pockets that open?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:35

You know, like listen, listen, I am I am a man with class. I go to a tailor, I get the inside of the back of my jean pockets taken out. So, like the jean pocket's still there, but the inside is gone. So when I go when I when I reach for the wallet, that's whatever you want to call it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:53

I got I got yeah, man, I'm too rich. My breath smells amazing. I never eat.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:00

Okay. Teeth are immaculate. Oh, man. Hold on, hold on, only because of CBL. Last one. Uh we got another game called uh uh Mary Screw Kill. Mary Screw Kill. Mary Fuck Kill, right? Right, right, right. You got uh Whoopi Goldberg, uh Kiki Palmer, and Viola Davis.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:27

Who the richest one?

SPEAKER_05 1:33:29

Uh who's the rich one? This gotta be either Whoopi or I would say Whoopi. What Whoopi?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:35

I would say she got that young bread. She got Disney money.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:38

That's true, but who do Kiki? But Whoopi been on the view for 20 years.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:46

So I'm probably married the richest one, which is probably Whoopi. Okay. Um But I'm gonna treat her like Mr. Did. You know what I'm saying? In purple. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? Like, you know, not very nice. So then who could be my Suge Avery? Kiki. Kiki. Kiki be my Suge Avery. Sug coming over. You know what I'm saying? Um, and then you know, Viola gotta go. I'm sorry. Uh and I love Viola Davis. Um, but that shit she did with Michelle Obama's mouth. Oh. She got a whole other person.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:19

Oh, yeah. Gotta go. That's a good enough reason. All right, I'm done. I'm done with my foolishness.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:26

So I got I got two top fives you choose. Uh I got top five Detroit comics or top five comedy specials.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:33

Hmm. Let's go top five comedy specials.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:38

So um, for me, it's uh it's Raw. Eddie Murphy Raw. I love Raw. Um, it's uh Tommy Davis and Illen and Philly. Illino in Philly is fucking.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:48

RAM Cat with Soda.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:51

Well, he said the white dude eating cornbread turned black. So let's tell the guy. Either you invest or you step off. So I'm chilling, right? This motherfucker will tell me. Uh man, okay, so those are really my son. So then you got um uh Richard Pryor. Um not live on a Sunset Strip, but the one where he's talking about the monkey and the dog. That's the first beach. That's the first one.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:19

Long Beach one, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That holds up, too. Oh my gosh. That hold up. You can watch that right now and still laugh out loud.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:25

Um it gets difficult. Oh, Delirious is in there.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:31

I'm gonna throw Delirious in there. And then, um I'm gonna take Delirious out because I only want one from each person. Um I will take Killing Me Softly.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:56

Okay. Killing me softly is first or second?

unknown 1:36:00

First.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:01

First. Okay. And then um I will have to take probably I might need security. Oh! That's another good one.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:10

That's a strong one.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:11

I watched that last year in I was in Dubai and they don't have like no cable or nothing like that. But on YouTube, I was watching that in Dubai last year.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:19

And that was dope. I love that special. And then, of course, honorable mentions, um, You So Crazy. That's my favorite shot special. I do like the way that was shot. I love the way it was shot. Crazy deranged. A lot of quotables on there. Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:34

Raw Raw over Delirious. Because it's raw over delirious for me, also.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:37

This is when I got introduced. Gotcha, gotcha, you know, and and I think that uh Delirious is something about you get more and more comfortable as you go. So for me, Raw, he was in, he was in a different headspace. Like he he had no questions about who he was. Yeah. Like, you know, just you know, little shit he would do. Like, we when he ripped his shirt open, he kind of gave the bitches time to scream. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like the fuck off me. The fuck off me. You know what I'm saying? Like, um it was just big business. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was a perfect special. I like the first Ninja Turtles, but part two, they had got it right.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:22

I'm about to say, yeah, number two, my favorite.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:24

Number two, they was just with the with Kenji and jumping and all. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I just feel like when you that re-up is always, you know what I'm saying, something. Um and it was his last special.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:35

Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? All right, uh, my last one, bro, and I'm Donzo Rapunto. If you can see it uh career-wise, and it's everything that you want it to be, you're killing it in every facet. What does it look like? Is it producing? Are you writing? Are you starring? What what's what's happening?

SPEAKER_03 1:37:56

How big you want the venues to be? Yeah, I am uh I'm I'm starring Blockbuster movies, um hilarious type of um the whole family can go see it. Um household name shit, um, arenas, right? Um but I actually I like theaters better than I like arenas, to be honest with you. I don't like feeling that small in a space. You know what I'm saying? Um but you know, like uh I'm gonna do some arenas uh in a couple months with Bert Chrysler. Shout out to Bert. Oh, shout out to Burt, man. Burt, man, good dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:31

Damn, man. Hey, I wanna I'm gonna holler at you about Bert, because we both from St. Pete in Tampa. He's from Tampa, I'm from St. Pete. I love Tampa, bro. Yeah, man. So I'm a huge fan of Burt. He don't know me, you know what I'm saying? But I mean, I would want him to do this show. I'm gonna tell him about you. Yeah, hell yeah, man. I love that.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:47

Have you done the round in an arena yet? No. No. But I know you, I've seen you on hell arenas, whether it's with Matt, whether it's with Nate.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:54

Yeah, you it's it'll feel different. Okay. It feels smaller. If you feel it's like, oh shit, this is a big ass room. Yeah. Okay. Uh but keep going.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:02

Um, I did a uh uh theater with Corey Holcomb in Chicago one time. That shit was crazy. Yeah. Um just like 3,200 people, you know what I'm saying? Quaint. You know what I'm saying? Uh starring the movies, arenas. Producing and directing. Um, producing is easy. Producing is just lending a hand wherever you can. You know what I'm saying? You know, directing though is we're all in my mind, and I'm trying to help us land it all. You know what I'm saying? So that's different. You know, I went to school to direct, I just haven't did it yet. Um, so yeah, directing, um, acting, blockbuster movies, and um stand-up at the highest level. I don't want to quit stand-up. I want to be like Kevin Hart, where I just keep doing it and force my business to mute my comedy. That's what I feel like Kev is doing. Like, he, bro, how can you having a Chase Bank sapphire car deal along with fucking um Verizon is better than a titty joke for me. It's like I don't give a fuck what you niggas think. Right. I'ma had to be funny in this box to get this money. The niggas a billionaire. Like, nah, shit ain't funny when you a billionaire. Matter of fact, nigga, I'm gonna do the first angry special. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:40:21

You feel me? Hey man, that's what it is, man. Make sure y'all like, comment, subscribe. Appreciate everybody that's uh been checking in with us on YouTube. Um I've been your host, Justin Hyas. London Brown. BT Kingsley, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:35

Make sure you follow CP everywhere at Comedian CP.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:39

At Comedian CP, all one word. I don't know why, but CP means child porn, and if you type it in by itself, they will flag you. And I don't understand what that's about.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:46

Yeah. I need to start correcting that. We've been your host. I know I'm gonna toss it to y'all, so that's why I say I've been your host, because I know we all gonna say our name. But we've been your host. Yeah. Justin Hyus. London Brown. BT Kings.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:59

And I've been your guest. Comedian CP.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:02

CP, everybody. Hey, baby!

SPEAKER_03 1:41:06

A lot of game, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:07

Yeah, great episode right there.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:09

I will say that, man. These guests, y'all been dropping some stuff.