TONY BAKER

Actor/Comedian, Tony Baker, discuss the origin of his popular voiceover videos, touring with KevOnStage, mourning the loss of his son, booking the film 'One of them Days' without an audition, and more.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Multiple head higher. Amen. Somebody, somebody gonna recognize one time. I said, I'm like Donald Glover without all the fame and the clout. He's like, I'm right. I can do what he do, but he do it better. Come on, look, this is America. He had the right white people in his corner. I be having white people in my corner. It be all the wrong ones. I got teamed up with the wrong Jews. I'm like, you a good one. If you ain't the right one. Anyway. Tony Baker. I'm trying to get his cancelled out top. Oh, we're gonna be cool. We laughed around here, man.

SPEAKER_04 0:49

Welcome, man, to another episode of Killin' It Man. I'm your boy BT Kingsley. London Brown. Justin Hyatt. And man, look at, look at what's going on here. Very special day. Been trying to get this brother on for a while. A dude that I like to call a friend, friend of all of us, man. Beloved by everybody. But let's talk about that talent. One of the best to ever do it. Argue with your mama. Multiple platforms. One of the hardest working people I know in this business. Hilarious. You know them. You love them. Tony Baker's here. Tony Baker.

SPEAKER_05 1:27

We got Tony Baker here.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

Yeah. I always feel weird during intros. I don't be knowing what to do, what is happening.

SPEAKER_03 1:35

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Soak it up, man. It's all the truth. Man, I hate it. I hate it. You've been doing a bunch of podcasts lately. Are you tired of them? No.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

No, not yet. You know, if I got the time, because I feel like I've been chilling a lot. Like, you know, I've been, I haven't been ripping and running like I I normally do. So I was like, let me come back outside and, you know, do stuff. So do stuff. Do stuff. You know what I mean? Because I used to always be out. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just hitting comedy clubs and stages and just going to shows I wasn't even booked on sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

I I always tell people, you the first comedian, when I was in LA, saying, Yeah, I did two or three stages tonight. I was like, two or three stages? Because before, I would say before you, I feel like we would do one stage that night and be like, we did it. We achieved our dreams today. And now it's back to go watch basketball. And you would be like, I went to this mic, I went to that mic. And I was like, I gotta get my life together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:32

But I felt I fell off that tough. Because I used to do that all the time. And I used to count every, every every stage. I used to count it. Because I always wanted to do more performances than there are days in the year. That was always my goal. And so I used to talk to Dean Del Rey because he was he was on that type of time. You still can. Yeah, so I was like, alright, as long as I do that, so if I do two or three this night, maybe I can just not do one Thursday and then do two shows Friday, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 3:02

So that's an interesting place to start. Uh because this question is is layered in two ways. One, if you understand that it's true, and two, the responsibility of it being true whether or not. Do you know that you are the standard? If you live in LA, you live in the industry, you are hilarious, you are loved by most, anybody worth it, damn. Uh you have great relationships, you put the work in. So anytime you could be in this business and you can feel like, oh, I'm not this or I'm not there, I I take myself out of it. I'd be like, well, dang, they should have gave Tony three movies by now. They should have gave Tony four shows by now, like, because you're past everywhere. Everybody knows, everybody sh I in my brain, everybody knows the talent. Do you know that you are that? And if you do, do you understand, like, is there a responsibility that comes with that?

SPEAKER_00 4:00

Nah, for me, actually, it was just when I first started doing stand-up, it was just like, yo, let me let me try this as a way to get exposure for acting, right? Right. And then I did it that first time. I was like, oh, this is amazing. This. And so I just kept going. I kept going every day after that. And so because I finally found something that I was I was good at and that I had more control over. Right. Cause you know, in Hollywood, we got no control. We got zero control. Right. Even if you write your own stuff, somebody still has to pick it up, shop it, sell it, festivals. You gotta depend on so many other factors when dealing with like acting. And so I was just like, I'm not interested in that. And so with stand-up, it was like I can I can craft my own material, I can get on my own stages, you know what I'm saying? Some rooms you gotta work to get in, but you know, overall you can you can go to open because I started at the high, you know, you pay five dollars, you get the stage time. And so I pay five dollars, I'm gonna be on stage. And so just kept working. And so for me, like, you know, I was just trying to get better at the craft, get funnier, get more comfortable on stage, find my voice, just doing all that. So that was always my focus. And in terms of like, you know, dealing with other comedians, it was just genuine. Like I roll on genuine energy. And so I don't come with, you know, you know how some people treat you better because you got accolades or you on some shit, and they show you more. I've never been that type of person. It'd just be like, I don't really fuck with their energy. So I'm just regardless of who they are. And so I would just build a community of just like good energy with other comedians, and so that element was just always organic, and the work ethic was just always organic because it was just like I just want to hit the stages, get better, hit the stages, get better.

SPEAKER_04 5:43

So so let me let me rephrase that because you're talking about at the beginning, and and and that's the truth. But at some point, let's go year before the pandemic, yeah. You're passing all the major clubs, uh, as far as LA goes, you tour in headline, you I I don't think there should be a question for anybody in the business on your you are top-tier talent hilarious and seem to be beloved by everybody because you just a genuine good dude, you're nice to everybody, you look out for people, you speak up for those. It's like everything's there. Do you feel like there is a uh a sit Do you feel like there's a world that where the dots don't connect? And do you do you feel like there's a reason why they may or may not?

SPEAKER_00 6:25

I don't that's out of my that's out of my hands. Yeah. Like I can't I can't sit here and try to, you know, piece together why I'm not on this and why, because then you end up bitter. Then you end up that bitter ass comedian, oh they ain't looking for real. Like, you know what I'm saying? Then you go down that path and it's just like I said, my mama yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

I said, they ain't looking for real. I'm gonna be in the alley shooting a sketch tomorrow. But I'm listening.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Yeah, because it's like, you know, you could you're gonna end up bitter McGee. If you go down that path of trying to piece together, why I ain't on this, why they not looking out for me here, why, why, why, then you're gonna end up in that little vicious cycle of just like bitter and just like see because I ain't doing that, and you're pointing out everything that's out of your control. So I'm like, I'll I'm I don't know. You know, so I'm not gonna worry about it. What is in my control is what I do on the stage, what I can promote, what I can create myself. Other than that, it's just the chips fall where they may.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

This is what I wanted to say about you. I feel like you almost becoming the Bernie Mac, ironic, because you're from Chicago. Yeah. When I see you popping in stuff, I feel like you be killing. Like even in the movie Gutter. Like you had that one little scene in one of them days. You had like two scenes, but when you in there, you be you be bussing. This is when I realized how good of an actor you were. We did a pilot, people always leave me out of this story, Andrew Santino, I'm saying his name. Um because I've heard him tell this story on another podcast that somehow Justin Hyers always get left out of this. We did, Tony Baker, I think I heard you on one too, you left me out. That's okay, that's okay. I'm sure they cut me from the pilot. We did a pilot where we was at a restaurant in CBS.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:09

I was there, you know, and I heard Andrew Santino say this on maybe two other podcasts. You're like, yeah, it was Tony Baker, Tiffany Hannish, I'm Ali, uh, and then I'm like, hey man, I'm I was there. I was just trembling and shit and then they cut me out of the pilot. This is how when I realized how good you were as an actor, though. I remember sitting back because they had called me out. It was it was almost almost like a it was a hidden camera, but it wasn't hidden camera, right? Like improv or like people.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

It was like a hybrid of just like different show styles in one.

SPEAKER_02 8:39

Yeah, and what was what was throwing me was I was like, do the do the customers at this restaurant know were like prank? Do they know? So I it didn't make sense to me. I was like, are we pranking them or are we playing this realistic? So, anyways, that was like Justin, they tapped me out. I was like, huh? I'm sitting in the back looking at the monitor. Tony goes in and you do one of your scenes, kill. You killed and Tiffany Haddish. I remember watching y'all, this is like 2004 or something.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

That was way, maybe maybe even earlier than that.

SPEAKER_02 9:12

They go in kill, right? So I'm like, mm-hmm. So that's how it's done. Okay. Um this is so you killed it. You killed the Tiffany Haddish. I remember that. But this is when, this is when it stuck me in the heart. After we got done recording, the producers came up to tell me I was like, oh my God, you were amazing. You were so fucking hilarious. You are brilliant. They looked at me, they was like, uh, thanks for coming, Justin. I was like, no, no, that's okay, that's okay. Anyways, you are not. I said all of that to say, you are a phenomenal actor, bro. Thank you. And I know it's just a matter of time before. I mean, y'all already doing it, I feel like, with Kev on stage and like what y'all are already creating. Because I be feeling like you don't even have to necessarily get a TV show with a network. You could kind of create your own stuff nowadays.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

That's a move now, man. You you just gotta you gotta do it yourself.

SPEAKER_02 10:05

So here's my question. I said all of that, but here's my question. Right now, to get to that, right now, if you could choose between only being able to focus on social media or only being able to focus on TV, which one do you feel like is more valuable? Oh, that's a great question. Hey man, I know I talked a lot, but I had something to say.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

So it if I only focus on social media or just focus on TV, what do you mean by just focusing?

SPEAKER_02 10:31

Like, that's where you put all your time and energy. Like, which one do you feel like at this current like market uh place, like do you feel like is more valuable for your career?

SPEAKER_00 10:40

Social media.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

Yeah, because you can go into any avenue from there without the without the restrictions. TV always gonna have the restrictions. The network ain't looking for this, they making budget cuts. We only doing eight episodes this season. We may or may not get renewed. It's so much in the air. With all the networks, all even streaming platforms, you know. The Netflix shows be getting canceled left and right. It'll be like, man, they're canceling this. You know, and so I feel like with social media, again, it it's about the control thing. I can I can pivot anywhere I want to pivot via social media. Um, I could I could promote my stand-up, I can do do original, you know, content, I could just do whatever. I could do movie reviews, I can do full reviews, you can just do whatever you want. Right. And I I always look at my uh social media page as like a TV network in itself. You know what I'm saying? You you're gonna get reruns, you're gonna get new stuff, you're gonna get themes, you're gonna get so you know, all the networks we grew up watching, you're gonna get married with children. For sure. You're gonna get uh that that show was like a knockoff of Married with Children, where they was crowd was hyped all the time. Oh, uh had that hot girl in there, crowd, the crowd was lit.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

She had big breasts. Yes. Yeah, I forgot the name.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

I forgot the name too, but they they had that type of energy, and then you go into, you know, or a CBS, you go 60 Minutes at, you know, design and women. You got uh, you know, whatever comes on at the design and women, then you got 60 minutes, and then you know what I'm saying. And so I always just look at my my social media as a TV network. You never know what's gonna be on. And throw up them reruns, man.

SPEAKER_02 12:13

I just started doing that. Yes. I be I just told somebody yesterday I be throwing up my old reaction videos, they hit again, and then you keep making money on Facebook or whatever platform from them.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

And you gotta remember too, a lot of people wasn't there when you first posted. Yep. So this is the first time they're seeing it. So oh snap, you know. So I always encourage, like, you know, post and reruns.

SPEAKER_04 12:34

Yep, that's a fact. Yeah. Do you go back and uh delete the original or you leave it all up there?

SPEAKER_00 12:38

You just everything on my phone, man. It's still sitting there. Yeah. I took down all the voiceovers, though.

SPEAKER_04 12:44

Yeah, you do you delete them from your page?

SPEAKER_00 12:46

Huh? Do you delete them from your page? The voiceovers I do. The yeah. Simply because they keep coming for me and taking them down. Yeah, we gotta talk voiceovers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:54

So, so that felt like a very uh high-level pivot for you creative, not so much creatively, but like it felt like that's where a lot of the attention was. Yeah. It was like, I remember coming to you, you did raccoons, and I will stand on this. Geico stole it. I'm I'm convinced that they were in the room, they saw it online. The amount of views that it had was outrageous. It was like 30 million, and this was like the second or third time I had saw it. Yeah. And I and then all of a sudden I saw Geico had talking, I was like, mm-hmm. Y'all see everything. Like, yeah, this is y'all, y'all they was saying. So when did you know it was going crazy? And and uh talk to us about the change after after everybody was coming after you.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Oh, so so the first one it was the raccoon one where he was eating out the cat food dish. The cats was watching him, and so that was the first one that went crazy. And I was just like, because that video was old already before it went viral. I had I had recorded that way before that. It was two videos I did. It was a goat in Brazil just harassing these people. He was just he knocked the lady over with the grocery bag, dude, was trying to save her. He chasing him around the tree. That was the first one I ever did. I was like, let me be this goat.

SPEAKER_03 14:05

Right.

SPEAKER_00 14:05

And then I did the raccoon joint shortly thereafter, and I just put them up on my YouTube page. My YouTube page didn't have no subscribers at that time. It's like, yeah, so I had to sit in there. And then uh I would just post it on my Instagram every now and then. They just did whatever, you know, people was laughing. I remember Nick Carthan was always like, Man, repost that raccoon. He was always on me about that rest in peace. Yeah. And so um, I was like, all right. And so when when that when one of the reposts caught fire for some reason, I remember Spice Adams reposted it, and some people just you get the right people reposting, and then it just explodes. And then the raccoon video just exploded, and I was just like, man, let me just keep doing these because you know there's a response. Because even before then, remember when Marlon Wayans was doing What the Funny? Absolutely. I showed him those two uh voiceovers and I was like, let me do content like this for your, you know, uh for what the funny. He was like, Alright, take them down off YouTube. We're gonna develop uh a segment for that. And uh that didn't that didn't fall through. So I was just like, alright, so I just reposted them on Instagram and then boom. So I just kept doing them. I was just like, all right, voiceovers. Because it was easy. Because it wasn't, it wasn't a voice voiceover videos like that weren't a thing at that time. Yeah. It was just something in me, because I've always we always had pets. So I was always like, what are you thinking about? What's the inner dialogue with the cats and the dogs and the parrots and the ferrets that we had? And so it was natural for me to do it. And so once that blew up, once the raccoon blew up, I was like, let me just keep doing these. And then I hit it with the same mindset I had with my stand-up. I'ma just keep going. Once I see something works that I genuinely like doing, I'm gonna just keep doing it.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

See, that's my problem. Yeah, I keep doing them butt cheeks, and I don't really want to do them.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

I'll tell you something, man. I know you I know you speak on it and you be like, it just be the butt cheeks. Stop doing it.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Stop doing it, man. The cheeks be working. The cheeks is always, but do you want, do you really want to explode from ass and titties? Kinda.

SPEAKER_02 16:10

Sounds like a good way to explode. It depends on who's coming to the show. Nah, nah, I I I don't, man. And so I'm actually, I be throwing out other stuff, man, but I be telling people. You know, they don't, they don't, I show the numbers. Yeah. I show the numbers. It's frustrating. And so it's like, it ain't for not trying. But I I agree, you do want to be proud of the work that you're doing for what you get hit for.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Because I feel like with you, you could pivot to. What you think? You could pivot and sell it. Because ass and titties is always gonna sell. Yeah, I know. You know what I'm saying? But you could just respond to other types of videos, give your perspective at the end or during, or you know what I'm saying? Because comedians, we're all doing that now. We're all like, yo, man, like I posted a video last night. It's an elephant killing people in India. I saw that. Yo, what's what the people do? Because elephants just don't wild out.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

You don't kill the top like this or something. This is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do it for a week. Yeah. I'm gonna do a week, no butt cheeks. Yes. All just different, because I'm telling you, I post other type of content, niggas don't hit the like button. Men and women, they don't hit the like button.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

They're not gonna always do it. They're not gonna show up right away. Okay. You you just gotta sit in it and stay doing it, though. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 17:20

Because eventually, something will pop. Okay. I know you can speak to it in a very specific way, because at some point you had to stop doing the voiceovers. You enjoy I knew you had Hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

But he always already had like a million followers when he stopped doing the voiceovers. You ain't just stopped doing the voiceovers at a hundred thousand followers.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

No, because I was already, before I even did the voiceovers, I was already at like 90,000 on Instagram. Okay. From doing the the sketches and the Travis Santiago's and all that. Yeah. And so it was slowly building, and then the voiceovers, it was a slow build, and then it just exploded on Instagram and Facebook. So when Facebook took my page down, they just took it. I was at two million plus, snatched it. And I was like, and I was I was trying to get it back. I even went to Facebook in the Bay Area. I went up there, like, yo, man. You know, but it was like, you know, when you when you repost a video, they'd be like, copyright, copyright, copyright. And you get too many strikes, they just take your shit.

SPEAKER_04 18:17

What up, y'all? Thank you for uh watching, man. Listen, we appreciate you, but I need you to go ahead and hit that little subscribe. Don't at hit the little subscribe button. Thank you. That didn't take but so long. Look at you. Harmless.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

YouTube deleted my account.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

Yeah, so it's like, yo, man. So they took the whole Facebook page, couldn't get it back. Two million plus. I was just like, bruh. So it was like I was walking on egg sales on Instagram. And so I had to rebuild another Facebook page from scratch to get it back up to that. And so Wow.

SPEAKER_02 18:47

Hold on. This is good. How did you do that? So because I want anybody that's just starting out, what did you do to get that page back up?

SPEAKER_00 18:55

I was doing voiceovers again. I was doing the same thing I was doing before.

SPEAKER_04 19:00

Back to the forbidden fruit.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

I went back to the forbidden fruit and it jumped back up to people. People love these goddamn voiceovers.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

People love my cheeks. Let me tell you something. I've been having people, it's so funny because I thought, nah, now Evans. He was like, hey man, when you find something that works, nigga, double down. And I was like, but it's cheeks, man. I'm smarter than this. I'm more clever than this. I got them this thing's over. You're like, man, you better do them goddamn cheeks. I'm wilding out. I said, goddamn it. Anyway, so I'm listening.

SPEAKER_01 19:29

Yeah, so Were you skeptical the second time you start to rebuild?

SPEAKER_00 19:33

Hell yeah. Cause it was my brand manager. She was like, let's start you, let's just make a new Tony Baker page. Let's just, I was like, nah, nah, man, because I was defeated. I was just like, yo, they took my whole shit. And so I was just like, all right, I guess. And she was just like, nah, just make a new page. And I was like, nah, man. You started from scratch. I was I was like, you know, fuck Facebook at that point. And so, um, but she was just persistent, and then we put the new page up and we just posting stuff again, and then, you know, it just shot up again. So it was just like. You know what I'm saying? And so um, so I know, you know, there there's value there with the voiceovers, but it it's just, you know, the copyright, they're gonna get you.

SPEAKER_02 20:16

Well, why do you my bad. This is a business question though, but why do you feel like they they flag your voiceovers, but not just a regular reaction video, if you're still basically reacting to content.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

Because because now they technically still could get you on the reaction, but Instagram has it in place now where if you do uh a remix or sequence, you put your you put yourself at the beginning or the end on the sequence tip. So you're responding to a video or whatever. So when you do that and repost it, the original poster is still the link. So if they do, so like now if I do a voiceover, I I sequence it or remix it. So now if they snatch it down, because I I don't know where I don't know where the original source is for that video. Right. Like like I I did a I did a voiceover a few months ago of this this this ram, this goat was chasing this black, this black girl down. I did that voiceover in my backyard, it took me two minutes to do. That shit got up to 90 million views, and I was just like, Wow. People in the comment section be like, see the voiceover. Like, I know the voiceovers work. Do y'all not hear what I've been telling y'all? I don't want them to take my page. So I'll so I I re but I did a remix on that one. So when I posted it, when they snatch it down, I don't get dinged. Oh, goes back to the source. Yeah, so they snatched that video down. But it was already up at like 96 million. They snatched it down, and I was like, so they didn't come for me. And so the remix in the sequence is the key because it's not you posting it from your page originally.

SPEAKER_04 21:53

Yeah, and and they're so uh the community guy. They're not they're not crazy. Crystal clear on what you can and can't do, so you don't even want to test it the waters. Hence back to my initial question. If I worked at the what's the who's the National Geographic. Yeah. It just makes sense to me to call Tony Baker and have the dude that is like I at this point in time, I'm not in the world where I don't think. No, y'all see everything. Yeah. You see everything. You can see by the people that are watching your page. You can see by the people that follow you that are way more famous than the random dude that led uh the the the rock is a little more famous than the guy that works at the head of development for for these places. So it's like just call Tony Baker and give him a voiceover show. It's like it's it's right there. So it's like that's that's why I just like for some reason it's just not dumbasses, bro.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

Because I I have been working on stuff where I'm trying to get you know voiceover shows done, but it it always falls through the crack every time. It's like, yo, this is an easy show to make. Easy voice. It's very easy. It's cheap. It's just me doing voiceovers. If you want to jazz it up and give it an extra, we can just put a little razzle dazzle on there. But it's America's funniest video. It's ridiculous. It's just what you put voiceovers. All it is, I'm like, it's easy money, yo. Yeah. But they always be like, we we go, we, we going in a different direction. All right. And people constantly be like, man, I watch your videos at the end of the day. We just put it on and just watch.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

You thought about taking something like that to Tubi now?

SPEAKER_00 23:26

Yeah, I I thought about I thought about all that, you know, and so it's gonna end up coming to a point where it's just gonna be like, I'm gonna just do it myself and just I'm gonna just have to pay the money to get the rights to rights of the clips.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

Right. So with all of this, I sometimes I just like to help us all figure out where does Tony come from? We know Chicago, but what's the family stuff? Because funny, because right now, again, we see a lot of the guests we have on here already numbers. Films and commercials. Commercial King. Commercial King. Where do you where do you come from? Tony, where's that like, man? Growing up in Chicago, what's that like, man?

SPEAKER_00 24:04

So uh I grew up, I was born in Grand Rapids, Michigan, but you know, my mom went right back to Chicago and I was still fresh. So I I got no real recollection of Michigan like that. And so I was just raised, you know, we was raised in Chicago, Southside. Um you know, we lived all throughout the South Side, pretty much. Growing up, I'm the youngest of three boys. My parents were divorced, so we would go to my dad's house on the weekends. And so uh at the time, you know, you realize later, yo, my family's funny. You know, you don't realize it while you're in it, it's just family, you know what I'm saying? And then when you step outside of your family, you're like, Man, you hilarious, man. This, this, that, and the third day when you hang with your family again, it was like, oh, that's where I get it from. And so um, you know, because even when I was younger, I didn't I wasn't trying to be funny. Right. It was just a natural thing. Like, you know, when I was trying to be funny, it was my older brothers I was trying to impress. And they was like, man, just beat it, kid. You know what I'm saying? They was giving me that energy. All right, all right, man, watch out, man. Get your little brother out of here, man. So I always felt like I was taking L's. And so, but I'll be at school, they cracking up. I'm like, yeah, man, watch out, man. My brothers ain't laughing. And so, and then when you start lacking girls, you didn't want to be funny when you were a kid because you you didn't know funny was the key when you're that age. That's the way.

SPEAKER_02 25:22

Yeah, middle school, that's all I had. You five, six, I was 4'11 in fucking eighth grade or something. Yeah, I know. It was tough to do. I love easy.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

But we're listening. Yeah, so you know, I I didn't want to be funny to the girls, man. I wanted to be all sexy and cool, you know what I'm saying? Not knowing the funny would lead, it has more longevity.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

And so to them draws in case anybody used to catch up with what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

To the panties, if you will.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

When did you realize that then? That I was funny? No, and that that was the longevity. And when did you know, like, oh I got something college? Uh-huh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

College is when they finally click, like, oh, okay. Even though I was funny all throughout high school, I'm like, I ain't trying to be funny, man. You know what I'm saying? Trying to be sexy. And then in college, I was just like, yo, funny is where it's. I played football for one year in high school, and then that was it. I was like, man, it's ain't for me. And I tapped out. Yeah, I was a tackle. And I was just like, all right, I'm good on this. Because I wasn't in it. Like, my heart wasn't in it. Like I like I told y'all, when I feel something, I be like, and I never felt that with football. So I was just like, no.

SPEAKER_04 26:34

That's interesting. You just you just did it, and I'd be forgetting you have this because it I see I know it worked for voiceovers, and I know it works for you in general. You have your own voice. And like, okay, comedians are looking for their voice. It's like, no, no, no, no. Put that to the side. You have a there is a Tony Baker vernacular. I was like, I remember your frustration. You going online one time because comedians kept coming up to you doing you. Yeah. And it was keeping people, can we just come up to Tony and be like, hey, Tony Big Tony Baker? Yeah. Habadasheries.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

It's like, bro, can we just have a regular conversation? You can do me on stage, and you know, pause. You can do me on stage. Yeah. But just what we have a regular conversation. Right. Now I feel like you just getting mocked. You know what I mean? So it's like, well, watch out, man.

SPEAKER_04 27:21

Yeah. So uh how much I feel like that helped influence voiceovers. Yeah. Because cram and and all the things that the that the animals are saying, not to mention you also love animals. Yeah. So it's like you're seeing a very specific perspective. Does that how does that influence your writing?

SPEAKER_00 27:41

For me, like, I deal everything I write about and joke about, it has to come from an organic place for me. Even with the voiceovers, I'm genuinely interested in animals. So it was easy for me. So it wasn't like I was trying to, oh, how could how can I just find something that's just I just need to I it was never that. It was just like, yo, man, with that goat pinking. So that was that was the initial What's that raccoon saying to these cats? Right. You know what I'm saying? And so um every how I move creatively, it has to be organically interesting and funny to me, or else I'm just before.

SPEAKER_04 28:17

Your material's like that too.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

Yeah, so that's how I that's how I've always worked comedically. It's like it has to be organic to me. That's why you don't see me doing a lot of political jokes because when I watch politics, I'm not shit ain't funny to me. Right. You know, it's some funny things, but I'll just be pissed. Right. You know, you know, so um so I'll I'll move like that with everything, you know, comedically. It has to be an organic interest and uh and you know something there. Even with sad stuff, I can still find, you know, organic stuff to be, man, that's funny at that funeral, man. Such and which bomb. Yeah. You know, when the pastors be bombing their funerals, I'll be like, man, come on, man. And so um the Lord wasn't with me on that one.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

Y'all don't hear me.

SPEAKER_04 28:58

Y'all don't hear me is uh giving up for the ladies for a pay's day.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

Y'all don't want to get good. That's a hair ass. Every time. Yeah, you're right. But um, so what was the question?

SPEAKER_04 29:14

I've heard you do six or seven minute bits about cats and or bees and or animals in general. So it's like when somebody else tries to, if you're trying to do these animals, you gotta understand comedically that's also who you are as a person. Yeah. So it's like your natural, your natural voice. I'm just trying to see how it connects to you coming up with random ass words that people are not using and loving animals and how that's influencing your comedic voice. But I think I think you answered it.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

Yeah, because it's like I'm I'm interested in the natural world and like science, astronomy, animals. And so like when you see my voiceovers, you see me, you see me doing babies, uh, you know, arguments, fights. I was doing the I was doing the commentary characters of of Chris Wagner and Buddy Tubbs narrating people fighting in the streets. Yeah. So all that all that stuff is interesting to me. Like, you know, because and another thing I don't like, I don't like getting stuck in one category. So people say animal voiceovers, like, nah, it's voiceovers of everything. You know, I'll do, you know, whatever. I can be ice, you know, people slipping and falling on the ice, I'll be the ice as well. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I got your ass now. So um, but it all comes from an organic place of just like genuine interest. And that goes into like products, cereals, brands, brown listerine, you know what I'm saying? And so, so um, but it has to come from an organic interest.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

This is something that I I always commend you, Keon, um, Chaz. Y'all built and other people in that group too, y'all built a community out here in LA. And I always like commend y'all for doing that because I always tell the story how I had my homeboys in Florida, yeah. So I didn't really see the value in like building a community. You know what I'm saying? Like I was cool with everybody, but I was like, I'll go kick on my day ones when I get back to Florida or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 31:04

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 31:04

Um what do you feel like? I want you to speak on the the importance of having relationships out here, like building a community.

SPEAKER_03 31:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:13

And then also, which who do you feel like has been your most rewarding or valuable relationship that you've built on your journey?

SPEAKER_00 31:24

Um, it's a tremendous value when you look at like, because I also studied like, you know, Hollywood and how things was working and who was working with who, how things were moving. And since I'm a movie nerd, you know, I always noticed like, hey yo, man, the directors be using the same actors in their movies. You know, John Hughes is always getting Molly Ringwalled, or like, you know what I'm saying? John Candy, you know, and I would just see that early on, like, you know, just putting piecing it together. As my movie knowledge grew in terms of like who's directing this, who's writing this, the same people keep popping up, like, oh, and then you see it more so, you know, Denzel's always working with Tony Scott, and you know, Leonardo and DiCaprio, I mean Leonardo and Scorsese, De Niro and Scorsese, you know, and then you know, you get to the funny stuff. You got Judd Appetow working with the same people all the time, and it's just like they got a community going. Adam Sandler always casting the same dudes. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? They got a community. Robert Townsend always casting the same people, partners in crime, Hollywood Shuffle. You would see Damon Wains, you would see Roy Fagan, and then you see Roy Fagan in the five heartbeats. I'm like, they got like clicks going, they got like communities going. And so I always saw that and I was just like, okay, noted. And so uh you can't really be a lone wolf out here. You can, but you can also you can also miss out on a lot because you know, people gotta remember this too. You gotta take your ego out of it because we we're always the main character in our life story, right? But you gotta consider everybody has their own life story, and if you out of sight, out of mind. Yeah. If you're not around, people gonna forget, like you know what I'm saying? Like even when, you know, when I book shows, I be sitting there chilling, like, hey man, you want to do my show? Just because you're in my face. I know you're funny, it was just, you know, you just get overwhelmed with life, right? Yeah, hey man, what you doing, you know, such and which. And so when you have a community of people that you always rock with, you're always in mind. Like, you know, if it's if it's real, like, you know, I don't like doing the fake, you know, cool. Right. I I've always been a terrible networker. Like, this is the producer of such and which, I'd be like, if the vibe ain't vibing, I'd be like, all right, man, that's me. Man, I'm the fake. I'm trash and force networking. I can't do it. I can't do it. If we can't vibe, we I'm just not gonna force it.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

That's why not to cut you up, but that's why I always mention this. This guy is king social, man. He knows how to hear it. That's a real thing, man. To know that and just break past the technical. I'm the BT, he book everybody for the city. I can't do it. I move to the side. I be like, man, I don't want to bother nobody.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

I don't want to interrupt your space.

SPEAKER_04 34:06

I don't want to, you know what I'm saying? I can do it with comics, but when it comes to industry, people that are out of our circle, it get real fucking for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd be mad.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

I'm lapping, but I'm really a homebody introvert. So like that'd be, I do all of that shit, but when I'm at a party or something, nigga, I'd be off in the corner by myself, not saying. I was at one of Tahir parties. Right. And he was, I think it was Tahir Party. It was somewhere, I don't know, but I was just off in the corner. I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I'm good. I could, you know. So I I what do you feel like has been your most rewarding relationship?

SPEAKER_00 34:41

Rewarding or valuable. Uh my relationship with Kev on stage has been fantastic. Like, you know, in terms of just like reward, um when you got Chaz, DC, Keenan, Keon, Brandon Lewis, Kev on stage. Those that that those relationships right there have been the most rewarding. Um you know, career-wise, you know, me and Kev on stage work together a lot. And so he is he has opened the door for me for a lot of opportunities. All that Spectrum stuff. Yeah. You know, Kev, they was already, he already had a relationship with Spectrum, and then they brought me into that. And so uh Kev was always looking out, and you know, he's a go-getter too, and like, you know, he he's better at I'm more of the artist to where it's just like, all right, I just want to do the the show, the work. Kev will put an idea out there and then just go through with the idea and see it through. Yeah. And so, and he's always bringing me with him. And so um I would say, you know, Kev on stage has been the most beneficial in terms of like career for sure.

SPEAKER_02 35:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:46

And then my other guys have been beneficial just as as as people, as comrades in comedy, all that.

SPEAKER_02 35:53

And that's a clip. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

You're right, you set up the lobby.

SPEAKER_02 35:59

I set up the lob. I knew you were gonna say Kev. I was like, what's been good? You and Kev on stage and got it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

Yo, how does your how does your family feel? Speaking of relationships, how do your family feel about seeing your success? So do they see it as that, or do they just still feel like you're out in LA doing something?

SPEAKER_00 36:19

Man, they they so proud, man. My mom, my mom loves it, man. She's she's on everything I'm doing. Yeah. She there's so many comedians that come up to me, man. Your mom, man, in my comment section, man, she be uplifting me, man. She's just and so she's very active on what I'm doing. Like, she watching all the podcasts, she be watching me stream, she be watching all the clips. Even when I'm over there, she she got me on the on the screen. She because she was already watching, so super supportive. And like she just seeing her her child just exists in the world, so she's gonna support. And my brothers, you know, uh, super proud. Even even the sister that I newly discovered, they're super proud, you know what I'm saying? And so from a family aspect, man, they just they love it. Super supportive. They be like, yo, man, you know, and they're not they're not annoying about it, they're not, you know, uh up my ass asking for stuff. And so it's just a beautiful, it's a beautiful feeling to know that, you know, the family is like super supportive of what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_04 37:18

I want to ask about uh you we mentioned them a few times, uh we had mentioned it outside I had to talk about this. Uh what would you like to see happen with all the amazing characters? Because voiceover is one thing, but I think Detective Coeslaw, Travis Santiago, uh Tubbs, it's like there's a lot of in your perfect world, what is it what does their world look like for you, or what would you like to take when you want to do it? Would it be a movie? Would it be a series? Are you kind of done with them? You know, where are you with those all the character different characters that you do?

SPEAKER_00 37:52

I would kind of like to do a movie. Because I've always loved movies more than anything else. Even though they're a great series out here, and I feel like those characters would be great for a series. Because I I always envision Detective Coleslaw. Detective Coleslaw is a combination of Nick Nolte in 48 hours and Bruce Willis in The Last Boy Scout. That's the look I made for him, because he wears a blazer, like a vacation style button-up shirt. So the blazer is Nick Nolty in 48 hours. Right. The boots is Nick Nolty in 48 hours. The shirt is Bruce Willis in The Last Boy Scout. Right. Kind of down on his look. He don't give a fuck no more, man. My wife cheated on me, man. I'm just a loser. Right. And you got Nick Nolte, just this hot boiled, you know. Convict. You know, and just so Detective Cole's law is a combination of those two. And so I envision that type of energy throughout. He's a good detective, but he's a drunk, and you know what I'm saying, but he gets the job done. Travis Santiago is always that villain that's just talking too much, like the villains do in the movies. Instead of just picking the hero, they tie you up, they got you tied up, the axe is right above you. But yeah, man, little did you know, I had to get the mainframe, code 6162, but you'll never know that because you're gonna be dead. They leave them in the room by themselves to get out of that trap. They always reveal the plans to the hero. That was my plan all along. You see, and then they turn around and then the hero escapes. So a world where those two just are always at odds.

SPEAKER_02 39:37

If you do the movie, you gotta it'll be funny to have him in a therapist's office. Yeah. But that's the time he chooses to not talk.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

Right.

SPEAKER_02 39:45

Right, be quiet now. It's like, open up. It's like Na.

SPEAKER_00 39:49

Why are you doing this? No, no.

SPEAKER_02 39:51

But wild water supply.

SPEAKER_00 39:54

This isn't. You wouldn't understand. Yeah. But once I get the hero tied up, it was like, oh, that was my plan already. You see, I was going, and then he looks out the window dramatically. And then, you know, um characters like Buddy Tubbs and Chris Wagner, they're just like, you know, commentators on stuff, like, you know, Buddy Tubbs, the no-nonsense guy, like, oh, you goddamn right, Chris. Yeah. And you know, this, that, and the third, and Chris Wagner's that, you know, hey everybody, this is Chris Wagner sounding like that, you know, commentator, news anchor voice. Um and they can be incorporated into that same universe just on the TV screen as the cop and the villain go at it. Cartoon? Animated is fine. One of my dreams is to be a regular on an animated show.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

You audition for Lil Kev?

SPEAKER_00 40:40

No.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

That's see, that's crazy to me. And that's Liberty Didn't be talking about it. It's crazy to me. You know, and I'm I'm gonna be honest, bro. I'm on Lil Kev. Yeah. We just did season two. Uh uh I'm featured, I don't know if you remember, but there's times when I will see I'm sending Tony stuff sometimes. Like, I'm gonna be sure. I'm gonna get like a voiceover on my dish, and I'm like, man, have your agent. Because I'm like, sometimes I'm like, what the what the fuck am I doing is it's not Tony doing this? That's an honest thought that I've had. So even when I've done Lil Kev, I'm like, why isn't Tony on this show? Yeah. So it's good that you don't get bitter about that because I went through my window.

SPEAKER_05 41:16

It's not in my hand.

SPEAKER_04 41:17

But you that you see what I'm talking about with that first. What's that? It's like when when I, if I take myself out of it and I look at my other talented friends, then I'd be trying to figure out, you know what I mean, the other parts of what's going on. But you do, you work a lot. You you you do a lot of different stuff. I want to talk to you about movie reviews for something very specific. Yeah. You have a wealth of knowledge about movies and numbers in general for uh that people just don't have. Y'all know you do this, right? You randomly just be like, I I be I be sick of people all. I think, hey, go ask Tony how much Ghostbusters was. Oh, you mean how much money money it made? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, just off the top of his head, though. It's like Friday, go.

SPEAKER_00 41:54

27 million. Okay. Ghostbusters won. Ghostbusters won 230 something million domestically?

SPEAKER_05 42:04

Lilo and Stitch!

SPEAKER_00 42:05

Lilo and Stitch, the original or the remake?

SPEAKER_02 42:10

Damn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:11

The original did like 150 something the week. We will be fact-checking these facts.

SPEAKER_04 42:15

He's gonna be writing the right album. It's not fine.

SPEAKER_00 42:20

He did like 130 something to 50 something, and then the new one did over 400 domestically.

SPEAKER_04 42:28

Yeah, and and and for albums and stuff too, and you just have this information. So when you are on stage and you're freestyling, and I see you going back and forth with white people, tell me your favorite black movie. Yeah. And it's like you have, you know, you will remember directors. Right. When how does that influence what you're doing um as far as monetizing your your loves? So when you're doing movie reviews or you're doing the you had a show where you would go through and break down the numbers. Yeah. What what what how does that help? Obviously it helps. How does it how does it uh inform that world for you or make your voice different in that world?

SPEAKER_00 43:08

Um, I don't know. Like I I don't know how my voice would be different than what other people are doing, because I'm sure there's a wealth of you know movie reviewers out there. But uh shout out to Clayton Thomas, yeah. CT got the got the beautiful podcast going where they be breaking down the movies and stuff. Yeah, yeah, man. Um and for me, like, you know, when I do my movie reviews, I I'm still trying to find the sweet spot on what people really respond to. Because, like, you know, when I look at the numbers on YouTube, you know, certain movies do way bigger numbers than than others. Like if I review um The Bike Riders, it might be like 10K. Nobody ever heard of that movie. They're just like, Yeah. But if I do like a Tyler Perry movie or like a a breakdown or uh or a Marvel movie or something like that, the views are way higher. Like when I did um I think the most watched uh movie review this year was uh

unknown 44:00

Oh damn it.

SPEAKER_00 44:02

It was all centers. Sinners went crazy. And so, because for one, most of my audience is black, so it's a black film, so they want to know, you know what I'm saying? And so when I do a spoiler review of a Tyler Perry joint, and I'll be breaking it down and giving it my reel, those be going crazy. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 44:18

You heard it here first. Tony Baker doesn't like white people.

SPEAKER_00 44:24

I'll be watching mad white movies. But it's the audience. The audience is like, yo, I want to see you break down, you know.

SPEAKER_02 44:31

I just wanted to give your fans something to be mad at me about in the comments. Like, I'm gonna see what shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

I'll be watching big white stuff. Yeah, yeah, me too. And so um just no romantic comedies. I'm picky with the romantic comedy. I'm just picky with it. If it's done correctly, I love it. Coming to America is one of the best movies ever made. That's a romantic comedy. That's my favorite. There's something about Mary, romantic comedy. That's my number two. Yeah, it just depends on how they package it. If it's just regular romantic comedy.

SPEAKER_02 45:00

I did want to ask you this though, because I know I had we touched on Kev on stage, but I did want to know how did that relationship start and then what went behind the decision to do the Ball Brothers tour.

SPEAKER_00 45:10

So uh I met Kev uh doing he was doing sets at Nate Jackson's show in Tacoma when he was doing his uh super funny comedy show in Tacoma. So I saw him there because Nate brought me out to to headline, and uh, Kev went up early, and I was just like, yo, man, I like this guy. You know what I'm saying? He was uh he had his glasses on at that time, he had two boys, so I was just like, yo, man, we the same. You know. But we weren't doing the same jokes, but it was like, yo, man, we the same. So it was just like an instant coolness there. Yeah. And um, so when he when he came out here working with All Def Digital, he brought me in to do the spoken reason sketch. And it was based on my joke about me not liking clowns. Yeah. And so he brought me in, gave me a little writing credit, and you know, the acting credit too. And so he just kept bringing me in for stuff, and he was like, we should do like a show with Tony Baker where you talk about sports, and I started doing too many drills and stuff. So I just kept coming back to all death. So he brought me in there. So, you know, I see him more often now. And so, and then, you know, that relationship just built from that. And then we did uh real comedians social media tour from that. And so it was me, him, and Tahir. We did that twice, ran that back, and then so we just kept working. Kept working. And then uh the ball room, we just had a great comedic chemistry. And so then we was like, yo, man, we should do like a podcast or like something, and then the podcast ideas started, and then we might be able to take this on stage, and then boom, we on stage. And so it's just kept snowballing into something else.

SPEAKER_04 46:51

When did you see at what point in time did you see ticket sales change?

SPEAKER_00 46:56

Yeah, when after the pandemic. They slowly started building before the pandemic, but after the pandemic is when And you mean to me solo, right?

SPEAKER_04 47:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you you headlining clubs, because the headline clubs is his own.

SPEAKER_00 47:10

So initially, initially they were bringing me out, having me headline funny bones and improvs, and it I wasn't getting a door deal. It was just a flat rate, you know what I'm saying? So it was what it was, and then you know, the turnouts was whatever. And then they slowly started building. And then I was like, okay, all right. And so after the pandemic, though, that's that's when they really uh took off. Because I was I was going hard during the pandemic in terms of content. I was doing voiceovers, I was doing uh I was doing TikTok videos, I was totally big on the products, you know what I'm saying? I was just doing stuff and then you know my my following was just growing. It was growing every day because people at home, they just looking on their phones, so it was just like a swell of just like, you know, people coming through.

SPEAKER_02 47:58

Hold on real quick. How many how many followers though? Do you remember how many followers you had on your platforms when the ticket sale started?

SPEAKER_00 48:05

I can't remember.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

Damn.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

I can't remember where where I was at post-pandemic and then pre-pandemic. I can't remember what what numbers I was at. Because I know I got my Facebook snatched before the pandemic.

SPEAKER_02 48:17

So but you so you was already at two million before the pandemic.

SPEAKER_00 48:20

Yeah. On Facebook. Yeah, on Facebook. Facebook, Facebook followers grew faster than Instagram.

SPEAKER_02 48:25

Yeah, mine, that's how mine is.

SPEAKER_00 48:26

They was they was blowing the hell up over there. And I I wasn't even paying attention to Facebook like that. I was like, I can't focus on too many apps at once.

SPEAKER_05 48:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

Like, that's why I never got into TikTok fully because it's just like, man, Instagram, man. I can't I can't do both. And so I would just simultaneously post to Facebook. Right. So I really wasn't looking over there. It was just like, all right, I'm posting it here, and then I would go to the Facebook. Oh my damn. Yeah. You know, and so even even with the new page, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:56

Mine's probably I'm almost at 400,000 on the back.

SPEAKER_04 48:59

And been on that for years.

SPEAKER_00 49:01

Videos be doing great over here, and they just I don't know. I just be I'll be laser focused on Instagram. And so uh even on the new page in the rebuild, it was the same thing. I was just simultaneously posting. What did TikTok? TikTok, I'm no, I just I'll be like, let me go over here. Like when I was focused on TikTok for a little bit, my followers grew fast. And so, but I was just still just like, man, I don't feel like doing multiple platforms. So it's me, it's really just me being stubborn, you know what I'm saying? Because I did see the growth in TikTok fast, but then I bailed out on it, you know. Even now, like, oh, let me post this over here. And then, you know, but Instagram was always the focus.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

You never thought about hiring like a social media person?

SPEAKER_00 49:49

Thinking about it, but now I'm like, I don't want you all up in my account.

SPEAKER_01 49:52

I mean, come on, man. Maybe a tourist thing. I don't know, man. It is. It is. I get annoyed by that stuff. But people say, man, you ought to give, I'm like, I'm too private for that kind of stuff. Man, you got you know you can restrict them.

SPEAKER_02 50:05

Hold on. You gotta do the account that you know you don't be doing foolishness. So if you know Instagram is your primary, just give them the information for TikTok. I could do that.

SPEAKER_00 50:13

I don't be doing nothing on TikTok. Yeah, you said that. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 50:16

You gotta do the reason right there.

SPEAKER_01 50:17

All right. I could do that for sure.

SPEAKER_02 50:18

Yeah, because uh, and I'm only saying that because I'm looking at Takara and she got a million whatever on TikTok. Oh, wow. She's destroying, she's destroying. Yeah. Selling out your stand-up clips? Stand up clips. That's beautiful. So I'm thinking if you posting your stand-up clips on it, but I mean you already doing well.

SPEAKER_00 50:36

I'll be trying to post the stand-up clips, then I'll just be like, then watch out. I'll just be forgetting.

SPEAKER_02 50:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

Because I'm at like I'm at like 600 and something thousand on TikTok. That's great. Just sitting there. And I just forget to go over there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:49

That's why I would say have somebody do it for you. Just get them only that TikTok information.

SPEAKER_04 50:53

Do you, do you, uh, who are the people that you saw that started following you that you were like, oh my God, everybody can see exactly what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

And then which one of them have not put you in nothing yet?

unknown 51:05

Come on!

SPEAKER_02 51:06

Wait, what, wait, what's the question?

SPEAKER_04 51:08

Who did you who was the some of the people, some of the that started following you was like, oh my goodness, so-and-so just is following me. Like celebrities that follow you.

SPEAKER_00 51:15

Yeah. Oh man, that happens all the time. Uh The Rock, Jason Momor, Gwyneth Paltrow, Reese Witherspoon.

SPEAKER_02 51:24

Wow. Oh, I love Reese.

SPEAKER_00 51:26

I love her. You got some hitters over there. I love it. You got real Alice. What is you doing here, Dave Batista? Wow. Uh I think it was some rappers, too. I think uh, rappers. Freddie Gibbs just followed me the other day. Um, it's mad rappers on The Killer Mike, uh, T.I.

unknown 51:48

T.I.

SPEAKER_00 51:50

Common, um, Black Dog and Quest Love. Big Boy was following me for a long time.

SPEAKER_02 51:59

He unfollowed?

SPEAKER_00 52:00

He unfollowed and then followed again. He was like, I don't know what happened, man. But yeah, so he he there. Um the list goes on. I just be like, what?

SPEAKER_01 52:09

What do you feel your what do you feel your audience uh what type of content do you feel they don't necessarily gravitate to? Is there a certain type of because I know, for example, you know, sometimes people they just don't want to hear from you. Yeah. What do you feel that? What do you feel like you put this out, you say, yo, I this is what I like, but the audience is like, mm-hmm. And so you you pull back from. Was there any topic or subject that went that didn't really go well with your numbers?

SPEAKER_00 52:35

Well, a lot of times when I be posting my little verbal cardio clips, they just be doing whatever. They just be like, all right, man, watch out. Unless I talk about, I know this there's a spike in viewers on my on my podcast clips. If I'm talking about my relationships. If I talk about my romantic relationships, the numbers be high. I'll be like, you nosy motherfuckers. All these other clips be doing minuscule stuff, but here they come with this. And so um, I'll just be like, damn, man. And so I know they be nosy. And then um stuff like that, like my movie review clips, they just be doing whatever, you know what I'm saying, depending on the movie. So those are just like, you know, passion, passion players are just like, well, I'm gonna just keep putting it out recording.

SPEAKER_04 53:22

Yeah, but you was saying, though, you don't you don't hold your tongue about nothing for nobody. No. Like, if if it's ever some, I don't care who it is, if the energy weird, Tony Baker be the first person. No, man, you be acting weird, bro. God damn, but he was over there. Yeah, man. But it's a cause I I rolled my eyes on one of your posts the other day. What did you say? You was you was checking everybody about something, and I didn't like it. J. Cole. It was you said, he was like, y'all just let the J. Cole album come out, and don't bring up Kendrick. No, I feel away. What J.

SPEAKER_02 53:55

Cole got a new album?

SPEAKER_00 53:56

He got a new album coming out. He got a new album coming out in February.

SPEAKER_01 53:58

Wait, so what was your angle on it? And versus yours?

SPEAKER_00 54:01

Because every time, every time you mention J. Cole, you gotta bring up Kendrick now. And I hate that. Just just let the just let this project sit on its own merit, and then you can you can do it later on, but like, especially for cats that didn't even battle. They never battled. So why we keep bringing up Kendrick? I can see like with the Drake and the Kendrick situation, that was a they went at it.

SPEAKER_02 54:23

But did you hear what Fat Joe said?

SPEAKER_00 54:24

I heard what he said.

SPEAKER_02 54:25

You didn't agree with him?

SPEAKER_00 54:26

I don't I don't agree. I can see where Fat Joe was coming from.

SPEAKER_02 54:29

I can see where he's coming from.

SPEAKER_00 54:30

But every rapper talks that shit. Yes. There's never been a rapper since the beginning of time that said I am the 137th best rapper in my project building. Correct. They always say I'm the best, I'm the greatest, I'm the dopest, even when we know they're not.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

Well, he gotta, he's gonna have to pride himself on being wise, J. Cole. I feel like that's the only way he could beat it. Like, I was wise enough to not stay in it, you know what I'm saying? Like, you see what I'm saying? Like, he has to kind of be like, I'm better than the rest because I didn't get involved in it.

SPEAKER_00 55:02

He addressed it, he addressed it on the snow and the bluff or whatever, something on the bluff.

SPEAKER_04 55:07

Yeah, he's a he's poked at it a couple of times. Yeah. And and we all love Cole. Cole is amazing. Crows is one of the best to ever do it. That's not up for question. What happens is as hip hop. Here we go.

SPEAKER_00 55:21

You're gonna diminish that with this buttons coming up.

SPEAKER_04 55:24

No, it's it's not it's not a diminish, it's just like a I I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to not listen. It's when I when he starts telling me he's the best and don't nobody want it with him, and I'm a murderer. I was like, but but you went back in the house. Like, it's like it's just sitting there. It's like, you're right. No rappers ever came out and said they was the 137th best rapper. Also, no rapper has ever did that. It's like nobody, because he because he didn't do anything wrong. You addressed it. He'd been, this is the third or fourth time uh Kendrick came outside and decided to start pushing people in the bushes. And you didn't do nothing but get up in the bush and be like, dang, bro, stop pushing me, man. Watch out. This is all all he did was watch out. I don't think he didn't. And then apologize for moved himself. Yeah, well, no, uh the initially the the Okay the Diz is watch out, man. It was it's like it wasn't even he couldn't he didn't he didn't go in on the city.

SPEAKER_00 56:14

Yeah, he wasn't vicious. He was like, hey man, watch out. And then apologize. People don't give him credit for the hey now. I do. People don't give J. Cole credit for the hey now because it's like, yo, he responded. He was like, hey man, but then he was like, and then when you hear about the behind the scenes of School Boy Q saying, hey man, this is personal, Drake and Kendrick they've been trying to do. So J. Cole was like, oh, alright. And then he backed out. And so it's not it's not a typical battle of just like Say that again. Jay Schoolboy Q talked to J. Cole and was like, hey man, this is personal with Drake and Kendrick. You might just want to, this ain't about you.

SPEAKER_02 56:55

See, I ain't know that part.

SPEAKER_00 56:56

Yeah, a lot of people don't. And even when they do hear that, they be like, nah, man, because we bloodthirsty for the beef in the drama. Right. That's all it is. Like, we we want the beef.

SPEAKER_04 57:05

I I liked I liked that that seven-minute drill because it sounded like the code that we all know and love. Bro, I don't really want to do this, but don't really play with me. Come on, man, you know how I get down. And and it was like a passive He didn't want he didn't want to do it. And I was totally okay with that. I was like, that's a call. If he never did nothing else, I was totally okay with that.

SPEAKER_00 57:25

He didn't want he didn't want to do it. He he he genuinely doesn't have beef with Kendrick. He respects him, and so it's like a forced beef now.

SPEAKER_02 57:34

Like when somebody push you into a fight, like you and your friends, I really don't want to fight.

SPEAKER_00 57:38

It's hard to fight somebody that you genuinely like for sure. So it's just like But if they hit you first.

SPEAKER_04 57:44

I'm with you.

SPEAKER_00 57:46

All Kendrick said was ain't no big three, it's just big me. In terms of coal. That's one. Right. In terms of coal. Control. That wasn't even a disc. All right. I never took control as a disc. We don't have to do that. That's not the control.

SPEAKER_04 58:00

This is a total of the control.

SPEAKER_02 58:02

That was control. That was that was Kendrick watch out. That was Kendrick Light.

SPEAKER_00 58:05

I'm coming for all you niggas, but the ones that I name are the people I hold in high regard. What about all the subliminals? See, we're not doing. I'm not I'm not doing the subliminal game. I lean towards say it with your chest type beefs. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 58:22

That's what I like. What about don't uh don't bring no coughing out of your mouth? Huh? No, I'm too paranoid for a threat, because that's for Cole too. Don't worry about it. We're talking about somebody. Wait, who said that? That's Kidrick talking to Cole again. He this ain't the first time he said something. That's what I wanted to ask you. Um celebrities. You mentioned celebrities. Yes. Cole, we love you. We'd love to have you on the show, killer.

unknown 58:42

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_04 58:44

We got a space for your bike and everything.

SPEAKER_02 58:46

I'm about to say, Roger bike from Carolina to LA. Um, have you ever had any weird interactions with any? You don't gotta say their names, but have you ever had like an embarrassing or like a weird interaction with a celebrity?

SPEAKER_00 58:58

Oh, I can't even think of anything weird.

SPEAKER_01 59:02

Um What am I even disappointed? Not to cut you off, but I'm I'm a I got a there's a couple actors, I don't even want to say their names, but I'm a fan of these guys. And I'm there's a part of me that's just like, man, you know the whole thing where you like, I don't feel like being disappointed with I don't want I don't want the interaction to be. I'm like, yo, uh, how you doing? Not today. I'm like, okay, you gotta accept that, but have you had any disappointing interactions? I have with Tyrese. Over real?

SPEAKER_02 59:35

Spot on. Hey, hey, we filming MacGyver at the studio. For whatever reason, Tyrese was coming to the studio where we filmed MacGyver in Atlanta because he was thinking about purchasing the studio. Now the day before, to his in his defense, the day before it was one of like a black person had got shot by a police officer, right? I forgot who it was, but that happened the day before.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:01

But not this the next day, and Tyrese is here. And I'm looking at, I'm seeing Tyrese, and I said something, and Tyrese laughed at what I said. He was like, man, you pretty funny. I was like, thanks, man. Yeah. And so I was like, well shit, should I go for the photo? Should I go for the photo? You know what I'm saying? He thinks I'm funny. So I go up to him, I was like, hey man, you mind if we snap a photo? He said, today's not the day for photos. And I was like, oh. He kind of like still, he was like, today's not the day for photos. And I was like, all right, like we got nigga now here in the streets. I'm like, all right, nigga. He said that? Yeah, oh he said it. Now here's over the other Tyranny. I got two of them. Here's all the other Tyranny's one. Me and Afyon going to like an Oscar party. And I remember they was like, Jay-Z and Beyonce just left out of here. We're like, oh shit, Jay-Z, I almost got to see Beyonce. Right. So Tyree said what's up. Tyrese said what's up. So we think we good at the door. We just gonna walk in with Tyrese. Tyrese goes in and kind of look at. Nigga, look at that at the door. And we're like, uh, okay. And so then we had to wait. We eventually got in. It's Afiana. We got in. Yeah. But uh he definitely he definitely left our black ass at the dozen. Does he know Afiana?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:20

He don't. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:21

Yeah, they was talking, they chopped it up and stuff. That's what I was like, yeah. Yeah, but shout out to Tyrese. After you shit on somebody, you gotta be like, hey, shout out to him, though. And Tyrese, he'd love to have you on the show, man. So with J. Cole, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:34

J. Cole. I met J. Cole at uh Inside Jokes years ago. Really? Yeah. He was there, and I talked to him for about 45 minutes. Yeah. He was super cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:45

He seemed like he was.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:46

He was super cool, bro. I was just like, man, I'm glad you ain't whack, man. I'm a fan. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna listen to the album, bro. I'm gonna listen to it.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:55

Why wouldn't you listen to the album? I'm gonna listen to the album on it. I gotta listen to the album.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:59

Every rapper alive, we know they bars been trash. They be like, I'm the best to ever do it. Like, no, you ain't, but God bless. Every rapper talks that shit. It was just J. Cole wasn't feeling this battle, and it wasn't his.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:14

What about role stories? You got any wild role stories? Anything crazy ever happened? I'm trash on the stories, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:20

I ain't got no real. The only little dust up I had with a celebrity, it wasn't even a major dust up, is when Teddy Riley got mad at me when uh during the during the verses when he had the bad internet connection. And I was just talking about the internet connection.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:37

I remember that.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:38

And he went off. He was like, man, you broke. I was like, damn, Teddy Riley, man. He's trying to make it, man. My carpet dirty. He was pissed up, but he apologized, but it was just like, dang, man. I was just talking about the internet connection. Because I used to go in and the verses come in. Absolutely. I used to just be in there cutting up. And um, so he was pissed.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:01

I used to leave comments in the versus comment section until I realized nobody was seeing my shit. I said, I don't think nobody's seeing this shit. You never know. People see it? No, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:09

Shut up to Teddy. I used to be in them comments heavy. You'd be like, where's Tony at? And I used to just go in there and just be silly. But Teddy Riley had had enough. He was just like, man, you broke.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:20

Shout out to Teddy. Teddy Riley would like, we would love to. On this show. My interaction with, I meant I was in New York, I was walking home, and I ran into him. And at this point, this is when You ran into who? Teddy Riley. Oh, Teddy Riley. Right, because everyone, because of Razor King, everybody was like, man, you look like Teddy Riley had the flat top and all this stuff. Yeah. So after hearing this for so long, I messed around and he was just coming. New York is like that. You just run into people on the street. So I'm, he's coming out this uh restaurant, and we had a whole little powwow and we just we laughed and exchanged numbers. I don't think we're ever gonna speak.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:54

But uh shout out to Teddy Rattle. We love to have you on the show, man. Teddy Rattle. We gotta sit down, Mr. Riley. Teddy Legend out here, man. Yeah, call your bro. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:04

My celebrity interactions, though, have have genuinely been like cool, I guess. Um I can't even think of no real, no real like awkward moments of like dust-ups or anything like that in terms of just like, man, such and such was kind of whack. Like nobody, nobody comes to mind. How does one of them days happen? Oh, okay. So when they announced that the movie was being made, I was like, I want to be in this. You know what I'm saying? Sizzle and Kiki Palmer. I'm a fan of both of them. Um big fan of both of them. And so, man, I want to be in this. And so uh I'm good friends with Robin Thetie. I was like, Robin, man, who you know up in there that's that's doing this? Right. And she was like, Oh, I can I can holler at somebody. You know, and um I didn't know I just threw it, I just threw it out there. And then um my agent hits me up and was like, hey, uh, they want you to I didn't even have to audition. So it was just like one of them days, you know, they got a role for you. I was like, Let's get it. And so I just did that uh because I think Robin reached out to Sarita. She's she's the one that wrote it. And so um I was just like, hell yeah. And so that's how that happened.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:18

That's a blessing.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:19

Yeah, because I know I know I already know you know Sissar and Kiki. So I know them, and so I was just like, you know, but I don't even think they knew that they was just gonna throw me in there. So it was.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:31

Again, that's the importance of relationships. Yeah. I I be telling people, like, I was talking to my wife up the other day, I was like, I wish someone would have told me that when I first got to LA. Like, your talent is number two.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:44

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:45

Your relationships is what's gonna really keep you working in this business. What's something you wish you would have known when you first got here that you realized later on in your journey?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:55

I wish I would have done stand up comedy at an earlier age. Like, I w I wish I I would have gone forward from the jump. Even further back than that, I wish I would have majored in theater. You know, because I was majoring in secondary education, social studies. So, and then I just did the play. You know, just because I'm like, oh, let me say, man, let me see. You know, because I I didn't think I would like theater. Loved it. And I was just like, I should have majored in theater. I should have really took acting seriously for real, majored in theater. So that's how I got my acting star was in theater. And so I kept doing plays after that. And then when I did fences and I was the lead in that play, I was like, man, I need to go to Cali, man. I should have just so that's that's my biggest thing. I should have just focused on the craft for real. But I should have dand up earlier, man, because this this is the love, this is the the artistic love of my life in terms of just like what you can do with stand up, how you can do it, how long you can do it. Right. You know what I'm saying? You don't need all these other moving parts. You don't need a writer, you don't need a producer, you don't need the direct. You do if you want to do a special, but that's easy work. But in terms of just like getting stuff off the ground, all you need is a stage and audience. Yeah. So it was just like, man, I should have dand up earlier.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:05

What is your relationship like with touring at this point? Because you're out a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:11

And it could be very draining, especially when you just bought some property.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:15

Yeah, I took a year off of touring. I took 2024 off. Like I sat down for a whole year because I was just working constantly. And I was just like, let me sit down, man. Let me just sit down for like a year. Right. I was constantly just on the road. That's a blessing.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:31

But it was just like, you know, I I never taken a vacation. Even a year off, I didn't consider it a vacation. I was just like, let me sit down and stay in one place, and you know. And so um that would that was that was something I was very mindful in doing. This was before I even bought a house. It was just like I need to sit down. And so I was just like, I was getting, I was getting drained. It was just like then I felt like I wasn't creating new stuff, and it was just like, all right, let me sit down. Because even even when my son passed, he passed August 3rd. I was on the road August 25th. Oh, wow. You know what I'm saying? And I just kept I finished out that leg of the tour, and then I sat down for two months, the first two months of that following year, and then I was back on the road again. So it was just like because I took that two months to really just sit and mourn. It was like wakanda forever when she really just when she finally sat down to really take in what was going on. She didn't do that until the end of the movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:29

Did you know how I'm not cut you up? Did you know how to mourn?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:33

I didn't know. I didn't what I knew was what I was very mindful of, I was just like, all right, I'm not working to distract me from the pain. I just I'm just working because it makes me feel good to make people laugh. So I'm just looking for like joy within the pain. And so it makes me feel good to make an audience laugh. So I I need to keep doing that while I go through this. And then I knew eventually I'm gonna have to sit down and really just take it without having to, you know, feel the energy of the crowd. That's why I took those two months off that following year after I fin after I obligated the dates I already had on the calendar. Right. And so I was just like, I'm gonna sit down and just take it. And so um so then, you know, a friend of mine, Shantae, she had lost her husband. And so she was just telling me, like, you know, grief comes in waves. Yeah. And so when the waves come, just don't fight it, just take the wave. Just ride that wave out. So when she told me that, I was like, Bet. And so whenever I get a wave, I just take it. And so that's how I mourn. I just I just take the waves as they come, and I don't fight nothing. I just be like, yeah, and then I have my my good days and bad. But what did that uh that situation teach you about yourself? It told me that I was able to exist losing a child. Because you know, any parent in here, you know, when you even think about that, you'd be like, there's no way I could live after that. You know, I used to think that. You know, uh when I would see, you know, people that have lost children, they'd be on the news talking. You know, my son died, and they just be up there talking. I'd be like, how are they able to form a sentence? Right. I could never, you know, I would I would pass away. And then when it happened to us, and then I found myself still living, still thriving, so you know, we got you know, other kids, but it was still just like I'm surprised that I'm able to still laugh, still joke, still feel joy, you know, still exist with that kind of pain. I was like, wow, you know, I'm tougher than I realize. And um you know, that's that's what opened my eyes the most. Because I was just like, damn, I didn't think this was possible. Because you know, you get you gotta think about your loved ones, they wouldn't want you to shut down, they wouldn't want you to, you know, die off because of their loss. So I think about that. And the fact that my relationship with my son was excellent, that's been the driving force of me dealing with the loss, is that we had a great relationship. If I had any regret, if it was like we had underlying beef, we weren't talking, I never told him I loved him. Like when people have to carry that burden, yeah, that makes the loss that much more profound where you can't get over it. Man, I should have been there for him. He left here knowing that he was loved by us and that we had a great relationship. The last words were I love you, so I can sit in that and know that we had a great relationship. That's why I always tell people, like, get right with your family while they're still here. Because if you if you lose them, God forbid, you're gonna be sitting there with the regret and the guilt and the Man, we could have just talked.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:36

We was having a conversation with Takara about those days, the taco days, and it's like because the boys was always there. Yeah. It was like the taco days, the movie trips. It was like I I was doing a playlist of uh like independent artists, and I would always have him in rotation. Yeah. And it was just like, I was just like, man, you you appreciate all the memories that you have with them.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:56

For sure. Yeah. You know, because that's what life's all about, memory building. Like when you when you think about how you go through life, you think about the memories that you built, you know, even if it's career, family, whatever. And so as a parent, you wanna you wanna you wanna establish memories with your children. Because when they grow up, you know, and they start dating, they start meeting new friends, and they talk about their life, they talk about their parents. They be like, Yo, my dad used to always do this, he used to take us here, we went here, you know. When they get to know a person that they're interested in romantically, you always gonna talk about the family. You know, what's your family life like? All right. And you always want to make sure that you created some great memories. And you don't you never want to be a seed of trauma for your kids. You never want to be that seed, right? The origin story of their trauma as a parent. Yeah, you know, because you know, you you meet so many people. Why are you like this? My dad. You know what I'm saying? My mom never gave me the love I needed, so I look for it elsewhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:54

I've told my wife that. I'm like, we don't want to be like if we ever going through something, it's like we want to make sure that we're not the root of her childhood trauma. Exactly. So that's a fact.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:03

That's important, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:05

And so, you know, with that, I can look back at, you know, how how we raised the Baker boys and was just like, they had great memories. They had, you know, and we liked them. A lot of family members don't like each other. Right. You know, you love you love so-and-so, but do you like them? You like them. You know what I'm saying? And so I like, I've always liked my kids. And so it just made, it just made the love that much more organic and real and long-lasting because I liked them. Like, you know, when you watch your kids in the room, you'd be like, man, I like this guy. You know what I'm saying? We can't always say that about our friends. That matters, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Even the parents, you'd be like, your mom be in the room, you'd be like, Oh, God. I love her, but god damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I look at my family, I'll be like, I like y'all. What's your uh happiest moment you can recall with with your boys? There's so many, man. Like uh, you know, during the holidays, we did this extravagant, like, Christmas setup to where you can track Santa on the thing on the internet. Yeah, yeah. The Santa tracker. We put like we had the fake snow outside, because it was Cali, fake snow. So we had these little footprints where it looked like deer was out there. So we did the whole shebang. Like the deer footprints, we tracking, y'all better go to bed, man. Santa's coming in, hide from Greenland. You know what I'm saying? So uh, so those moments, like, you know, all the times we used to go to Costco, like after I pick them up from school, we would go hang out at Costco, get the free samples, get a slice of pizza. Yeah, you know, um, the game nights we would have, you know, I would I would drag them to my game nights and we would have fun playing taboo and stuff like that. Me and the Baker boys, we were in Portland. I was performing at um the comedy club out there. I forget the name of it because they closed down now.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:48

Yeah, I know you talk about Nick, yeah, Nick used to run that.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:50

Yeah, and so uh we was out there in Portland together, the three of us. So we we were standing at the condo and it had an ice storm that weekend. And so uh we couldn't even do the last show of that that weekend because cars were literally sliding down the road. I couldn't even get a lift to pick us up. And so we outside playing in the in the ice, like sliding down the block, and like you know what I'm saying? That that same trip we went to the Nike uh headquarters because we knew a guy, and you know, and so that whole weekend was just fantastic. So memories like that, and even with Serene in particular, he came with me to Hawaii when we were doing the real comedians tour the second time, and we had a show in Hawaii, and he came. So Cyr didn't want to come because he was like, Man, I got the homework, I got a project to man, man, watch out, man. Yeah, man. You had that work done. Oh, you putting your school work ahead at the good times. And so uh so Sarah came out there to Hawaii with me, and like, you know, we just had a great time out there, and so we took photos out there, we was riding the bikes at night. It was just like a great, you know, memory build. Organically, like, you know what I'm saying? And so those moments are just like, you know, stuff that'll always just be locked in.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:05

All right, man. We got a game on this show. Okay. Called Kill It or Let Live. I love games, man. Okay, man. The games begin. I'm gonna throw out a topic. We're gonna say whether we should kill it, you're not messing with it, or let it live. It's all good. Okay. Kill it or let live. You get to experience time travel. Okay. You're even known as the inventor of time travel. Oh, okay. I'm Doug Brown. Hey, man. But the only time period you get to explore is slavery. Kill it or let live. Let's get to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:38

I'ma kill it, man. I ain't gonna be watching my people suffer, man. But it's time travel. But I'm gonna go back there and see it. Wait, and I can't intervene in any way, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:49

Yeah, sure. You could be on your net tournament. You can be on your net turn. Or you can stay on down there. That's different.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:58

So I can go in and out of this as much as I want. Yeah. You could be changing the future. You know what? I might let it live. Because I might keep showing up. I would I would just have to do my research in the future about when people got lynched, when stuff happened historically, and I would show up before.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:18

That might be a movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:20

The clan's coming. Y'all need to get out. I'm gonna stay here. I got the rifles, and I'm gonna be armed, and I'm gonna just be taking.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:26

What kind of gun is that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:31

I'm gonna offer history for sure. Yeah. There's gonna be a lot of people that they not gonna get their hands on. You're a superhero. That'd be great. And I'm gonna be killing bigots.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:41

Kill it, here we go. Kill it or let live. You have a hundred million followers on every platform. Okay. But you gotta wear a dress in a tali period film.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:52

I'm killing it.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:53

A hundred million followers?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:56

Because it ain't gonna be organic to me, man. I'm gonna be in the dress dead inside. I'm gonna be in the dress dead inside, dog. No. No. Okay. Kill it.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:09

Alright. Okay. You wanna be that way.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:12

Not that there's anything wrong with wearing a dress comedically. It's low-hanging comedic fruit, but you know, we respected it when it was Shenane. We did. And Wanda, we had no issue. You know what I'm saying? Is it Dalfi? But Mrs.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:23

Dalphire is one of the best comedies around. I showed my daughter that about two years ago. Yeah. Kill it or let live. A one night stand comes to you and says she's pregnant. Kill it or let live. Oh, dang.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:40

One night stand. One night stand, huh? One and done.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:43

And she said, I'm pregnant. Kill it or let live.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:45

And it's mine. It's yours, yours.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:46

Shot through the vasectomy.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:48

Shot through the vasectomy nigga jumped.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:50

Man.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:52

That child was destined to be here, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:53

I'm going to let it live. You gonna let it live. Tony's a good man. I got two more. Kill it or let live. The movie centers not winning best picture or best director at the Oscars.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:05

Oh man, that's what's gonna happen. I know, I feel it. Yeah, that's what's gonna happen. I want to kill it because I think it was the best picture of the year.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:14

Over one uh after another? Yeah. Okay, so here's my take on that.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:18

I think one battle after another is the better movie. I feel like why why just just me watching it from beginning to end, I was I was locked and tapped in from beginning to end.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:29

Even with story script-wise and how it's shot, the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:34

But I do feel Ryan Kugler should win best director because that was his initial vision all the way into completion. So if you listen to any um interviews with Paul Thomas Anderson, a lot of that was improv. A lot of that was Benicio and Leonardo DiCaprio. They didn't even have an official ending. So a lot of that was like improv that they was kind of doing that helped make that movie as great as it was. But Ryan Kugler wrote that shit and was like, this is the vision, executed that shit. Yeah. That's why I feel like he deserves best direct.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:08

That's a great point.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:09

Yeah. And over Marty, too. I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:12

I haven't seen Marty Supreme. Absolutely. I saw Marty Supreme. It was good. Oscars love a little stressful ass movie, man. Because it's uncut gems just with ping pong. Period people.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:24

1000% uncut jam.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:25

It's the same energy.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:26

Don't tell me the ending, though. No, no, no, no. It's the same energy.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:29

Timothy did great in it, but it's I would I don't have the best picture I had, but him, he should definitely be in the now for the for the Oscar. Tim? Yeah. He was great in that. He was great.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:39

Yeah. But I feel you on what you said. That's a great point. Yeah. I would love for Ryan to get best director. Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:44

This is my last one. Kill it or let live. Yeah. Hmm. I want to know what your how you feel on this. Kill it or let live. Baldy men going to Turkey for hair implants.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:57

I'm killing it, man. Just be bald, man. Take the L. I'm looking at all you lusciously haired on the everybody cropped up. You know what I'm saying? Luckily, I've never cared about hair though. Oh, but there you have it. You know what I'm saying? So But you got the right, you got the shape. See, you gotta have a right. I was blessed with the shape. But I never, I never was passionate about my hair ever. Wow. So it was so once it tapped out, I was like, well, bye. I wish it didn't grow at all, so I wouldn't have to shave so often. Oh, yeah. I wish it was just gone, gone. Smooth-headed up top. It's good, it's good. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:33

Top five. I was gonna go top five rappers with you, but I feel like I know your top five. I know you're not gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:37

You know my top five? Who would you say is my top five? Nas, ghost face. Nope. Sometimes he he he would be in there, but nah. Nas. But that wasn't Nas for sure. Nas is my favorite rappers.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:50

Nas Nas and Nas.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:52

No comment in there, no.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:55

Yeah, I'd like to say comment, I would say. Yeah. No ghostface? I thought Ghostface was your favorite.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:59

He was like, he would come in and fit. I would change my fifth spot all the time. Okay. So I got a solid fifth now. All right.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:06

Let me tell you the other option was top five most influential people from Chicago. Oh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:13

Most influential people.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:14

If you got the five for rappers, let's do them both.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:17

Any order on the Chicago people. Um Oprah.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:22

I didn't know. I didn't even know she was from Chicago.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:24

I don't know if she's originally, but she was rooted in Chicago heavily from man or something.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:28

Yeah, she was in Chicago.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:29

Um, say it. Yep. Go ahead. You got to say it. Robert Kelly.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:45

Go with the other one. Yeah, I feel like you. The other man. Hey man. Listen, man, he's a legend, man. Listen to me, many women. I mean, those are two well-qualified people that deserve to be on that list.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:09

Crazy. Al Capone.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:12

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:14

That's right. Um he's not originally from Chicago, but he works. He became legendary in Chicago.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:22

Yeah, New York, take that.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:23

Yeah. And um.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:26

Hmm. No MJ, no Bernie, no uh MJ.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:33

I might have to put MJ in the MJ is from North Carolina.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:37

Oh, now you're gonna say where now you're gonna say where he's from. Uh-huh. Or Bernie.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:42

So if I do got Oprah in there, I could. Yeah. Because Michael Jordan is just the most legendary basketball player to ever live. Not to get into the LeBron. No, no, no. In terms of how he changed sports. Yes, he is the.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:59

I always say this. LeBron wears Jordan number.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:02

People gotta cut the shit with this. I love LeBron. LeBron wears Jordan number. Yeah. That automatically lets you know who is supreme.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:12

Michael Jordan is the GOAT. LeBron just happened to have the greatest basketball career ever. When I s when I said greatest basketball career.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:21

20 years, no major injuries.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:22

I could go everything.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:24

Yeah, just like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:25

But Michael Jordan was something else. Yeah, he was something else.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:28

He is the idea.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:29

He is it was just something else. And you know, I don't want to get into this back and forth again, but because you know, once you say Jordan, you old. And we're like, well, you young.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:39

We didn't see Jordan in real in real time. Yeah, with Jordan's own. Right. We seen both.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:44

We seen both. And that's why you got to give it to people that have been around to see both and see the impact in real time. Yeah. Not just looking at highlights, not just be like, they played plumbers. No, the fuck they didn't. Right. So if we can include Jordan.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:59

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:00

All right.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:00

I mean, we got Al Capone, we got Jordan, we got Oprah. He said, Yeah, and Robert. Yeah, because they're, you know, homegrown Chicago, even though it Kanye was born in Atlanta, but it was like he was raised in Chicago. Top five, real quick. Top five rappers? Yeah, what was it? Nas, Blackthorte, Kalman, Andre, Jay-Z. My nigga. He got Jay in there. My nigga. Jay-Z was always the one flip-flopping with ghosts. Nah, man. Jay is solidified now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, good job, man. People always say your top five is biased. I got a lot of different regions in there. Yeah, man, I love you, man. I got Chicago, I got Philly, I got New York, and I got Atlanta. Yeah, me and you go back and forth about Jay all the time, man. I'm glad you're gonna get you. Jay is fantastic. I feel like he's getting a lot of hate for some reason lately.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:45

I think because of that situation of the situation.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They can put him in, they're trying to. Yeah, I feel like y'all downplaying this man right here. If it could be exactly how you want it, you are killing it career-wise. What does it look like? Movies, TV, touring, what does it what does it look like?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:04

Right now, the ultimate killer for me is if I can sell out a venue fast without having to do my own promo all the time. That's the if I could just be like, ee y'all, I'm in New York. Boom. Yeah. And it's sold out in hours. That's the level of killing I want to reach. All the movie stuff would be great. That's cool. I'm still dependent on other people all the time. The ultimate killing for me, yo, I'm in Chicago, April 5th. Line wrapped around. Posted that video at noon. It's sold out by 5 p.m.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:38

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:39

Every time I do that, that's when I feel like I agree a thousand. That's the ultimate goal for me. That's fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:47

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It's Tony Baker on uh IG. Is Tony Baker comedy real on TikTok because somebody had my damn name? That's why I'm gonna be going over there and disrespectful.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:15

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