Killin It

THAT CHICK ANGEL (ANGEL LAKETA MOORE)

• London Brown, Justin Hires, BT Kingsley • Episode 32

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Actor/Comedian, Angel Laketa Moore, discuss going from acting on TV series 'ER' to becoming a successful content creator, touring with KevOnStage, making hundreds of thousands from brand deals, doing social media content with her husband, hit song 'One Margarita', and more.

Hosted by @RealLondonBrown, @JustinHires, @BTKingsley

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Executive Produced by London Brown, Justin Hires, BT Kingsley

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SPEAKER_05

I did a four episode arc on this past season of Bel Air. And somebody had uh put on threads. Oh my God, Angel has finally made the big leap from social media to television. Not knowing. Not knowing. I went from television to social media. Absolutely. Back to so for me, it was more so the impact of I want y'all to know all the like the colors of me. Social media's been good, thank God, because when we were going through all those strikes, if we didn't have social media, I'd be out here selling tails somewhere. Because nobody was making like television shut down. We weren't auditioning. There were no jobs. I was in the middle of shooting a movie. That movie got stopped. Production. I didn't know if we were gonna ever pick it back up. We did. It took a year. Which movie? It was called Sharks in the Water. It ended up being on, y'all know that app that failed.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know, but it sounded like I see why they shut down production. The name of it alone.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, where's what they mean?

SPEAKER_02

I be moving around too much.

SPEAKER_04

Come on, man.

SPEAKER_02

Talking with my hands. I remember I was on MacGyver one time. You know, they switch directors every episode. And it was a new director. He was like, yeah, you're kind of talking with it. Mind you, it's like season four. You know, you're talking with your hands a little too. I said, hey, man. Amen. Listen, bro. I know what I'm doing.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

We on season four or five.

SPEAKER_05

These hands is in here.

SPEAKER_02

These hands are in here. Mozer talks with his hands. Okay. So I'm gonna need you to take your guest ass and go sit in the guest seat. And I guess you need to get the f out of my face. This is the first episode. This is the first episode. You're kind of talking with your hands. He thought he was telling me. Anyways, Angel.

SPEAKER_03

I be turned up sometimes, man. Hey, man. Welcome to another episode of Killin' It. Uh I am very, very excited. We got a phenomenal. We got a phenomenal guest.

SPEAKER_02

That's our word. Zeke, y'all like phenomenon? Because you know the uh the other podcast, he always said illustrious. Oh, we got illustrious. But we saying phenomenal. Yeah, we got phenomenal.

SPEAKER_03

We did something like a phenomenon. Uh uh, I'm one of your hosts, man. My name is B.T. Kingsley. London Brown. Justin Hyas. And man, you know, the the the term of the show, it's um it's like a it's like a a heartbeat. It's a movement, it is a emotion that is propelling forward within the business, and this is undoubtedly one of them. Uh major, major, major, major, major credits. She's hilarious, first and foremost, hysterical. Uh, one of my favorite people to work with. I don't I want I'm trying to say, should I save the shows or you like to put the credits up top? We got Paradise.

SPEAKER_02

I do feel like we need to do better with our credits.

SPEAKER_03

We got Black Lady Sketch Show. Uh we have Safe Space. We got churches, we have uh extreme.

SPEAKER_05

No, I was cut out of both seasons of churches, so you can go. What?

SPEAKER_02

Were you?

SPEAKER_05

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

What is this? I'm looking at the cut. It's on your IMDB?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, well, because yeah, because they paid me, so they gotta they gotta credit me. Oh I was cut out of both pieces.

SPEAKER_02

But they can't cut your glow up, baby.

SPEAKER_03

That chick ain't that.

SPEAKER_05

Hey, mama. Thank you for having me. Yes, for coming. Of course, of course.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so we had two things. One that was uh the when you had left out. Uh just Luddy was like, uh, have we moved too? Like, yeah, we definitely remember four.

SPEAKER_05

He was like, y'all should be used to this by now. Black women change up their hair so that you gotta lock in on a different feature.

SPEAKER_01

You probably had a ponytail, look. I worked on, I worked on this, on I worked on balls with this ponytail. I worked on ballers with this woman, and we I have to go do be a presenter at some award show. I get out, fortunately, I'm cool, I speak to everybody, I spoke to her, she's like, so you don't, you don't remember me. I'm like, well, first of all, when I went back to the show, I went, she had like a bob cut. Bro, when I started the thing, the hair was laid down and moving around and looking up. I'm like that hair, hair color, the the the chop of the cut, it is.

SPEAKER_05

But the face stay the same. I ain't had no work done on my face. Now the face is the same. That hair band is.

SPEAKER_01

The flip side is sometimes I've had women who've gotten some something done to their hair, and it'd be like a they got some like some highlights just redone. And I'm like, they were like, you so what do you think? Like, look at the same.

SPEAKER_05

That I can understand. No, but at least you know who the person is with the same looking type of hair.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. That's fair to fairness. The test test, because we were about to figure out the first time I've been.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I can't make it what you think it was.

SPEAKER_03

So in my brain, uh huh, please, there was uh there was something had happened on something you were producing, and you hired me to work with somebody.

SPEAKER_05

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

I was working with Angelina.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. So I was I was her wife.

SPEAKER_03

You were I was her husband. Because I identified as a I was her husband. Yes. Um Angelina Who? I love Angelina. Yeah, yeah. I remember her. Yes, uh, I was I was her husband, um, and you were producing something like a it was like a it was you were the producer, and I want to say the creator, but it was like all moms. Yeah. It was like all actresses who were, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I told you it was through Angelina. You were like, no, Angelina was who was like, oh, I have somebody. His name is BT, he's super cool. And I was like, okay, tell him, come on.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I remember because I showed up to the house, it was like outside the little craft that was outside, and then we went and then it was a little bedroom and we did a little scene. I remember. I'm proud of you. I remember who I be working when I be working, whenever I have the little room.

SPEAKER_05

Now, if you I can understand them not remembering me. If you would have been like, I don't understand. I've been like, hold on now. You worked on my production. How do you not remember?

SPEAKER_02

I remember. So do you go by Angel or Angela?

SPEAKER_05

My name is not Angela. It's not Angela. But no.

SPEAKER_02

I seen a flyer and they put Angela on. They were wrong. In NAACP.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah, they were wrong there. Yeah, no, my name is Angel Birth Certificate. Mama named me Angel. Okay. I mean, I'll correct people. Like, you know how sometimes people have a name that's easy to like accidentally mess up. Angel and Angela are easily interchangeable. But I'm gonna correct you every time. I'm gonna be like, that's not my name.

SPEAKER_02

I just want to say before we get into this, I could tell you have great energy.

SPEAKER_05

Thank you. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, nah, seriously. It'd be good. We need more women on on this show. And so, just in general, because y'all always have the best energy. Y'all, y'all uplift us, and uh I just wanted to give you, as a black woman, your flowers.

SPEAKER_05

I appreciate it, Justin. I do.

SPEAKER_03

All right, so uh I I want to start here.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

We've had this conversation a couple of times. There'll be shows, everybody trying to work, and then it'd be that hot show comes out, so amazing. Everybody's talking about it. Uh is we're all tuned in, down in, and oh man, this is a thing. And then season two is about to happen. And you are technically almost like a repilot. Because like all the people that didn't know it was happening when it was happening, all caught up, everybody excited on the edge of their seat. And this paradise episode comes off. And you the whole ep you the whole episode. Listen. You all heartfelt, you got our hearts all captured. Uh talk to us about uh I mean there's there's there's a lot about this show, but what was the process in even getting to be that spot?

SPEAKER_05

So I've gotten to the point in time in life, since I've been out here for so long, that when I audition for stuff, I usually forget about it immediately. Like I put it on tape, I throw away the sides, move on with my life. That that that used to not be me. I would be over there praying over those sides, like, God, come on, let them call me back. Come on, King Jesus, you can do it. I've now gotten to the point where it's just like I'm gonna do what I can and I'm gonna leave it alone. So I auditioned for it. Then me and my family went on a cruise. I had auditioned for like three things. So when you're on a cruise, you usually don't have reception. Somehow, someway, my manager got through to my phone and I was like, uh, I couldn't hear well, and I was like, well, if they're calling me, that means either something bad happened or something good has happened. So he was like, You booked it, and I was like, What? I don't even remember what I auditioned for. And they were like, You booked paradise. At this time, I had never watched an episode.

unknown

How dare you!

SPEAKER_05

Hadn't watched an episode. Oh, I know. But you also gotta realize when I shot this, even though this just came out in February, I shot this back in like March of last year. Oh so like season one was still being pushed out. We just hadn't gotten on the paradise train.

SPEAKER_02

So I was just already picked up for two seasons before the first season ended. Correct. Wow. Correct.

SPEAKER_05

So I was like, oh, damn. And I still, so me when I auditioned, I didn't, which was great, I didn't know what had happened in the world of paradise. Neither did my character, because you experienced her going through what happened in the world of paradise. What I also didn't know was that my character wasn't gonna make it.

SPEAKER_02

Spoiler alert. Sorry.

SPEAKER_05

That'd be a good timing for this, though. We should be out here. We should be out here. They don't know about now. They didn't plan on watching it no way.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's a fact.

SPEAKER_05

Um, so that also I feel like was helpful. I was really blind to a lot of things when I auditioned for it. I was really only knew what I could get from the sides and what the world was telling me, but that's also all the character really would have known regardless about the show. So it wasn't until I booked it that I saw, oh, you you gotta die on camera.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Now, how you gonna do that and not look stupid?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's hard to not kind of die corny. I don't know how else to put it. Like, to like be in a moment of like that much vulnerability. Like, does she even know she's dying? Like, is she that far gone in this world that she even is aware? So then that's when I was like, oh shoot, girl, you're gonna really have to, you're gonna have to pull out your master's degree to make sure you're not up in here looking stupid. Um so it happened to be during my kids' spring break, so we sent them off so I wouldn't have to worry about them so that I could actually focus on like not looking stupid on camera. I'd been doing comedy for so long that people most people forgot that like I'm a classically trained actor.

SPEAKER_02

So they just think I was gonna ask you that. Were you trained? Continue that. I want to get into that after you finish this.

SPEAKER_05

So I it was also like, okay, I'm about to have people hopefully rediscover me in a different way. And then working with uh Shaylene Woodard, who I didn't know, or I didn't even think I said her last name right, but Shaylene. Woodley. Woodley, I think is I said Woodley.

SPEAKER_03

You probably met her and then forgot about her.

SPEAKER_05

She changed her hair. No. Stop it. You give her a pass. Now listen, while you might have uh face blindness, name blindness is me. I won't remember a name to save my life. I'm the same way.

SPEAKER_02

I got all blindness. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And I but I'll admit it, I'll be like, I know we met. Tell me your name again, because I don't. It's gone. I got four kids. That's all that's locked in here. It didn't push out everybody else's name. So, anyways, um, she's a super talented actress. So, also, like when you're on screen with somebody that's that like grounded, if you do something that looks too big, it makes you look like a clown real quick. So, it was also great being able to work with her because it made me tap in again to give it as much realness and ground like Angel and Gail need to be literally the same person. There needs to be no separation of the two. So it was great because I got to work a muscle that I don't typically get to work now. People are usually like, You the funny friend, you're the funny wife, you're the funny mom, not the you are this person that is really tethering this other person to sanity. And like you are her, you are her North Star because she doesn't have anybody else in her life. So it was nice to be able to do that and for people not to just think of me as I love being considered funny. I that's I I feel like that's a blessing that God gave us that I don't think we realize how powerful it is that we can change the mood in a room with just a couple of words. But it's also nice to to be able to show. But I also got other other colors to be.

SPEAKER_02

I I told my wife because I didn't remember you when you first walked in, but like meeting you. I didn't remember meeting you. But I remember when I watched that episode of Paradise that you did, I told my wife that night, I was like, man, the black woman that did the nurse, like, she killed it, she did really did a really good job on that show. Because, you know, I'm why I'm a fan of the show. And then I was thinking when we when I knew you was coming on here, like, what type of training did you have? Because I was that impressed by your acting in that episode. So, what is your background and where are you from?

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so I was born in Baltimore, Maryland, but I was raised in Kentucky. Okay. So big difference, big change. I got my bachelor's in theater, because I knew I was gonna be an actress. I knew that's what I was gonna do. I then went to New York and did the New York Fringe Festival, which is like off Broadway, and I got to work with people who have been working on Broadway, and I realized, oh girl, you ain't it yet. Like you gotta, you need to sharpen yourself a little bit more. That's when I decided I was gonna get my master's in fine arts and acting. So I came out here to UC Irvine, got my master's in fine arts, and then from there I moved up from Orange County to LA and started working on television pretty much immediately from there.

SPEAKER_02

Wow, as an actress. Wow. Amazing.

SPEAKER_03

Um for this show also, like you said, you are uh tethering her to her sanity. You're also tethering the audience because we get to live this experience with somebody in real time. And you also broke the moon. I don't know if I've ever seen this. In a scary, uh not horror, but like in a scary situation, the white woman didn't fall, the black woman didn't, all that.

SPEAKER_05

That's the how the hell that happened. How the hell, the one that's sitting there waiting to see the danger come to her face. Usually we gone.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I said, Gail, you just acting up right now.

SPEAKER_03

So um, how it's have you felt the impact of the show being out and about now?

SPEAKER_05

Well, yeah. I do think again, it's like people being like, oh, she's it's so funny because my audience has grown. So there are people who have are knowing me at different stages in life. So obviously when the pandemic happened, everybody was back to looking at stuff on their phone. Like, because that's all we had. So a lot of people in my current audience discovered me during the pandemic, right? So they only know of me in the form of social media and in the form of comedy. So I remember I just I did a um I did a four-episode arc on this past season of Bel Air. And somebody had uh put on threads, oh my God, Angel has finally made the big leap from social media to television. Not knowing. Not knowing, I went from television to social media. Absolutely. So for me, it was more so the impact of I want y'all to know all the like the colors of me. Social media's been good, thank God, because when we were going through all those strikes, if we didn't have social media, I'd be out here selling tails somewhere. Because there nobody was making like television shut down. Yeah. We weren't we weren't auditioning, there were no jobs. I was in the middle of shooting a movie. That movie got stopped. Production. I didn't know if we were gonna ever pick it back up. We did. It took a year. Which movie? It was called Sharks in the Water.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05

It ended up being on, y'all know that app that failed.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know, but it sounds like I see why they shut down production. The name of it alone. Sharks in the water?

SPEAKER_05

I mean, where would they be? Yeah, what was that? What was that? Quibi, Quibi, who was that uh app that died. Oh, Quibi and Quibi. It was for Quibi. Quibi didn't even make it. They had to put it on uh another app. No. Tubi, Tubi, uh, I think it was a little too classy for Tubi.

SPEAKER_00

Roku. Roku.

SPEAKER_05

It went to the Roku app. But anyways, yeah, it it was for me, it's more so, I feel like the people who are just now making it over to me is like, oh, okay, there are more facets to Angel. So it's been more of that impact. And it's also feels like with my fellow television actors, they're also like, We see you, sis.

SPEAKER_03

We see you. But they they had already saw you because you were on ER for hella long.

SPEAKER_05

I was.

SPEAKER_03

It's a that's a it's hella, hella long and hella episodes.

SPEAKER_05

Hella long and I think she was only my character was only supposed to do a couple, but I luckily, because that was what I that's the show I started right after I came out of grad school.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. How many episodes ER did you do? Like 40.

SPEAKER_05

I was there for like three seasons, and um that's how my best friend, me and Brisha Webb, that's how we met each other. Shout out to Brisha. That's my boo. So I was there the season before her, she came the season after me, and um, that's how we she had just graduated from undergrad, and that's how we became friends. But they what's great about that show is they're kind of a family, so if you fit into the family, they just kept using you over and over again. So that was kind of my it was great because it was a whole nother masterclass. I got to work with Angela Bassett for a very long time. I got to work with Courtney uh Vance, I got to work with uh Eric Lasalle was uh my director multiple times. So I got even though I just gotten a degree, it was like, now you're about to learn how TV really works because these people are not playing and they've been doing this for decades.

SPEAKER_01

What sparked this um this artistic thing as far as on because you said you always kind of knew um as far as you want to pursue acting. Where did that come from?

SPEAKER_03

What up, y'all? Thank you for uh watching, man. Listen, we appreciate you, but I need you to go ahead and hit that little subscribe. Don't at hit the little subscribe button. Thank you. That didn't take but so long. Look at you. Harmless.

SPEAKER_05

I knew I was gonna become an actress around the age of five.

SPEAKER_03

Jeez.

SPEAKER_05

I think like a lot of black female actresses, seeing Keisha Knight on the screen was like our like it's on the card.

SPEAKER_01

Because I can't even really think of it too many more. I mean, you got your two two seven. Yeah, but I I don't know if we is anybody younger? Not exactly.

SPEAKER_05

Once you get, you like you get to like a Raven or Janet Jackson. But Janet was Janet is old enough from me that it was still, by the time I was of age to understand which show Janet Jackson was on, that show was like old. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Where with Rudy, we were the exact same age. I was watching it in real time. And I just chocolate. Yeah. I was like, uh she is me. I am her. We are the same person. It just so happened she's the one on TV. Um, and I think for a lot of black actresses my age, she was the representation that we needed. That was it. It was just like, oh, I can do that. I can do exactly what she's doing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. There's this uh Hold on, before you go to that, I got one last paradox question because we just had another interesting conversation about self-tape. You did a self-tape. Did you have a callback or was it straight, you got booked straight from the tape?

SPEAKER_05

Booked straight from the tape.

SPEAKER_02

That's no We learned something today. We learned something today.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, they're not doing a lot of if if yeah, they're not doing a lot of callbacks, so you gotta kind of get it right the first time. Yeah, information.

SPEAKER_02

Because a lot of a lot of friends, me including a lot of my friends, like, nigga, I ain't be I ain't been getting no callbacks. I ain't got no callbacks. They're not they're not really doing callbacks, they're looking at them self-tapes, and if they're messing with you, they just booking you from that self-tape.

SPEAKER_03

That is hilarious. Because you you're by yourself. It's like you had as many times to do this as what you were, and you sent this us. Yeah. You could have sent us any take and you had a whole lot of time to do it. Right. And this is the version you sent us.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and the thing is, you also mean you did a bad tape. You don't like I'll be telling, you don't know if they're even watching your tape. If they're getting 500 submissions, right, they're not watching all 500 of submissions. They probably watching 50, they fave the top 50, or maybe 100, or maybe the first 50, 100 that get to them. And from there, I'm sure they could decide we like this person. Better luck next time.

SPEAKER_03

They might have been 40 in and be like, this, not no. Oh, finally, somebody got it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's what happened with. That's what happened with Neil with Varnell Hill. Yeah. Martin seen his tape and he was like, yo, cut. We don't need to see nobody else. This is the dude.

SPEAKER_05

Now that's the one show I did have a callback for because they had me do the sessions. It was an actual virtual session. Okay. They didn't have me submit uh a tape, but that is so, so rare. But also, I already know a lot of shows that have any type of throwback appeal to them, I ain't gonna book them. You I needed to have been famous in the 90s or the early 2000s because so many shows need that like draw of the familiar face. Like, I I'd be like, Thank thank y'all for considering me. But what is was um what's Tisha Campbell doing? What's Tristina Trishina Arnold doing? Because I already know the way it is hard to get films, not films, uh television shows greenlit and on the air, they be like, we need a a face that's gonna make people tune in now.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the um for there's a concept that I have in my head, and I'm pretty sure I've heard it from actors in LA of the the third season thing. It's like you be trying to figure out acting, you be all be trying to work, whatever, whatever. Season one, oh snap, I got I got some, I think I got some money. And you kind of are paying all this all the time. You didn't have money. You're paying all the debt. And then season two, you're like, all right, well now I'm just holding it. But season three it's like, oh this is this is good. Is that how real is that as the as the money's coming in and you're shooting and you're like, all right, this is uh we we this a lot of episodes is how real is that you know what if I didn't have so many kids I think I would know.

SPEAKER_05

I feel like all about my like there's no hoarding it. I got to take care of four babies and it is expensive out here. So every season feels like season one. Every season feel like season one like I'm always like all right we got to pay for this this that and that I can't wait to have to feel like season three where it's just like I mean and I think for some people they might feel like they might think from outside looking in that I'm in a season three type of but no no I don't feel that quite yet I don't feel like I can like just sit and relax. I feel like I got to be hustling because season three ain't over they can cancel in the middle that's what I feel like you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

I want to know what was happening in your life or career that made you decide to get on social media and start posting content consistently.

SPEAKER_05

Um that first baby and Brisha so um I was pregnant with my son scared out of my mind because I didn't know I was just like pregnant actresses do not work. And I spoke that a little bit over myself now that I look back on it. And I was just like what am I gonna do? Nobody's going to want to work with me. I'm gonna have this whole season and then how am I going to get the momentum back? And then I now have the responsibility of a child what what am I going to do? So Brisha being with me during that first pregnancy she was like you talk about pregnancy differently than most people do. You should like put that online like somehow so I started doing social media back in 2009 before people were getting paid for it. Just doing videos around my perspective of going through pregnancy and being an actress out here. And I did not know why I was doing it still because I was like there's no money but I just felt like God kept tugging me to be like just keep going just keep going so I stayed in that vein and then around also around the same time right after I had my son at the end of 2009 is when I started doing stand up. So I was just kind of like I need another creative outlet because I am such a creative person and just sitting at home taking care of a baby was not going to be enough. So I was like what is something that I can say yes to that I don't have to wait for somebody else's no or wait for somebody else to agree with the yes and was so bad. So me Brisha and my homegirl Denora we went to go support this one comedian at this bringer show at the comedy uh comedy store and he g he made us buy tickets we were at the gym we used to all work out at the same gym and we were like okay we're gonna go support him we went and out of 15 comics I want to say 13 were terrible I mean I mean God awful we were just like and I said but you know what I they're so brave to be up there. That was my thought I was like even though I haven't laughed at anything for the past 50 minutes I was like they're brave enough to be up on stage telling these jokes and I looked at them I said okay before I turn 30 we all gonna do stand up my next question is when did Brisha was our gone?

SPEAKER_03

Okay but no we started two literally our first show was together at the comedy union comedy union's Mitchell that's funny I saw Brisha on stage the other not too long ago that was Thursday because she's getting ready for that special and she was up and I I tell I used to tell Brisha all the time I said you know you're one of my one of my favorite black comics and she was like you always say that I said I said I said you are I said your voice is so distinct your character so distinct and you and Brisha are there's there's you two don't try to throw me in there like that. No you use me hit me hit me on the television I was like you the female version of me when I first say that multiple times about y'all too yeah yeah it's it's on one thing I've I've always seen this work high level character work as a stand-up comic on stage when the commitment is there and the delivery is there I've always seen it work so when it's your ridiculous commitments when it's you and this nigga at the store I was like these niggas always end up on TV. Like it again it always it always works for TV what is your relationship like with stand up because I think I saw you it was Sacramental Punchline Oh Lord Jesus yeah yeah I saw it was Sacramental Punchline and you and Kev were touring uh Kev on stage I getting better he don't say the last name oh he just be cutting off and thinking people can feel a flood me and my homeboy K be like nigga Kev hard Kevin is so uh you and Kev on stage I wanted to say to here also we're all on tour and I just stopped through Sacramento and you were up there destroying and and I I remember I didn't see I remember not seeing you that often in the city going up but I was like sheesh I was like this shit where is she working out at I was like she's so good I was like fuck like so what is your relationship now with stand up with retired I did I might come back I was literally just telling CT this I got into a place so when we first started we were going up all the time which was still crazy my husband's like where the hell are you going?

SPEAKER_05

I was like to go tell jokes in front of random people for no money and he was like you've lost your mind so I was hitting it hard for a while um mainly like not doing obviously because you it's really hard to get paid here not doing a whole lot here but like taking like shows elsewhere. Right um and then it was so funny doing the tour with Kev is what made me go yeah I I don't want to do no more and what it is is that there is for lack of a better term I feel like such a darkness around comedy sometimes in the environment and even though working with Kev it is very it's you don't really feel that because Kev is just very like you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

Like he's a jovial, spirited person.

SPEAKER_05

100% um but even with that even with that I was like I don't know if it's just that a lot of comics who are still grinding or trying to come up they're just going through a lot but for me it was an energy that I didn't like being around often. I was like I need I want to protect my spirit because I hadn't become a I'm not a jaded person. I am very optimistic and I try to bring good energy so thank you for that comment. And it just felt like I was around a lot of not that and I was just like I don't actually have to do it this way. I don't have to be trying to get up on stage you know let me get 10, let me get 15 real quick. I don't have to be doing that all the time to be able to still be a comic in the sense of bringing comedy to audiences. So I'm in a season of redefining what I look like live on stage versus going up doing stand up every day.

SPEAKER_02

I would say also you at a point now and it just appeared from your social media following that you could go on your own tour. Correct Yeah yeah as the hairliner you you and Brisha you know and do something.

SPEAKER_05

I'm planning on touring at the end of this year but it's gonna be more of a one woman show than a stand-up show. Oh got it yeah nice that's what my thought process is right now.

SPEAKER_01

How'd you find your social media voice?

SPEAKER_05

It's it's me. I realize that authenticity is actually a a rare commodity I don't know if it's because people have they're afraid of being judged which is a legitimate fear especially if you have I don't want to say thin skin if you're just a vulnerable person like if you're just a human being I think um I think I have never really put a lot of uh value in other people's opinion of me and I think that's the only reason why I haven't gotten jaded about this career as much because you know we get told no 50 million times just to get to one yes and if I could let those no's dictate how I felt about myself I would probably be depress be depressed or at least doing some cocaine or something. Like get through a little bit of what a little bit of what?

SPEAKER_02

Rubber together so I think that that in the We're joking kids if there's any kids we don't do that.

SPEAKER_05

We don't do that um I think that in the traditional lane of entertainment helped me for social media to where I could be myself and just be okay with and I also know a lot of people who want to respond negatively about me personally is just typically a reflection of how they feel about themselves. So it's actually less to do with me and more to do with them.

SPEAKER_02

So it makes it a lot easier for me to be like oh well how do you feel about when you do your white tea talks do you feel like you get a a lot of like backlash do you feel like people When I do the white tea talks I don't feel like well every now and again there's some there's some pushback but my thing is always like before you disagree just go do the research first.

SPEAKER_01

Just go find out. Because I know sometimes just because you haven't heard the information or the idea doesn't mean that it's incorrect. You just aren't you just you don't know it. So it's just like with yo before I know it sounds I'm like slow down and process and just say well for example uh I tell I tell somebody that's uninformed I say you know you know hockey comes from black people I know it's a bunch of white people doing it but you know it comes from us. What are you talking about? Slow down. Go look, oh yeah we that was there's a lot of things that are like that but you know so I I I try not to take it too personally and just uh it's like yeah it's it's because also too sometimes you can beat people down for not knowing the idea but what I like to do is I like to deal with people with some gentility so because I know what that is so dictionary. Gentilite when people come back I don't want to it's so stupid. This way when people come back isn't I'm not trying to because ultimately I'm not trying to make people feel bad. I want you to get the information I want you to be exposed to this idea so we can ultimately uh grow together. But let me ask you this too with you being so heavily involved obviously with your family and the support there what are small ways that your husband has been able to support you that have been impactful?

SPEAKER_05

Oh anything that I could have been mad about, he's madder about it, so I don't have to. Yeah. So like the energy that when I take an L to the face like whether it be uh losing a job that was like going to be life changing or being or just anything being cut out of a show that you just like how the hell did that happen? I don't have to take on all that emotion. He'll do it for me.

SPEAKER_01

I got people like I never thought about it. I got people that and I've almost had to tell them like I've kind of gotten over yeah yeah it's cool like that's that's nice I know but it shouldn't have done you like that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah no like he be on that tip and I'd be like I don't even so I don't even have to worry my body with all that energy. You got it appreciate you um in the beginning of my career he was a stability like you know we didn't know if when I was gonna book something when I wasn't uh because I was recurring on ER we didn't know when I would have an episode when I wasn't so and even him moving out here he had no desire I imported him from Kentucky he had no desire to live in California. He's a big one he's a big big mic isn't right he looks like big mic yeah he's he's a big one uh so even him moving out here was him supporting me and I think it's also a part of why I have not gotten like jaded yeah are there parts of the career that'd be pissing me off absolutely but I have always had something that was more important. Yeah it's so easy to get caught up in you know why haven't I popped off yet? When's my next big thing especially when you when you are worthy of all of those things and for some reason it's not the stars aren't aligning. But at the end of the day this is acting at the you know what I'm saying I have a I have a whole person that would literally kill for me if I if I it need be.

SPEAKER_03

And maybe if you don't need to he might just he might exactly for fun Marcus O'Bluff because y'all connection is so specific and people in real time get to see it with the social media connection. I don't know if I seen too many people approach some of the trends or some of the things that are happening the way that you're happening and his reaction he is uh he's every man.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah because when you're you're okay there's a dance trend happening you're trying to complete this challenge or dance trend and it's like come on I need you to do this with me and his face is like oh yeah I got you and not giving it nothing and as soon as you're done just walking off I was like boy I just want to go watch the game I was like will you please leave me he hates all of it and people are like he's acting so well I'm like he's not acting he's not acting he is like if we could stop doing this foolishness and I'm like but we're we're not we're not okay let's set up for the next thing he absolutely hates it however he loves you he loved me and it's given us a it's given him which a little bit of a softer life like he was a blue collar man. Wow I'm talking about calluses on his hand he was a he was an electrician by trade worked in um construction so I'm like now all you gotta do is do a little TikTok dance with me come up all right so hey hey this hey since since we here hold on before you get into where he going when when did he decide to start doing videos with you? Okay so it was like a uh two stages so we started our podcast that we've had together since uh 2016 this will be the 10th year of our podcast so that was like me slowly edging him over so he still had his regular nine to five and I was like if we could just do this because what was happening is that people when they start to get invested with you online when you're selling your authentic self versus a product like I'm not really I'm not uh selling knowledge like he's giving people more information about something they might not know about I'm not selling a certain like product or talent it's me that you're kind of getting my perspective on things people started wanting to see the other parts of my life they're like there's something else that's affecting your life what's he doing over there so I was like come get on camera please with me. So that started in 2016 then when the um pandemic happened we started looking at the numbers and I was like you're making me lose money by going to work so if you could come over here because we make more money if you stop working that's how that ended up being it ended up it ended up not making sense anymore for like I was having to turn down so many opportunities because your ass is at the airport doing construction. If you could just come back home we make content together we make this money over together I can go do more speaking engagements, more touring because by this time by the pandemic we had all four of our boys I was like I can't do that because you at work you come over here we make more money.

SPEAKER_03

So now that'll go perfect me being full bird talk okay uh you be as transparent as you want um but the numbers specifically the how okay boom this is me on ER He would love to know your banking account rowdy now much money yeah so ER as a as an actress this is what I'm getting in this is what I'm doing touring wise and this is what I'm doing social. What do you see is the more dominant space and the most lucrative?

SPEAKER_05

For me right now social. Yes social is I like which platform also well Instagram and TikTok mostly Instagram because Instagram still has the 40 something year olds and the 40 something year olds have disposable income. So I make my money mainly off of brand deals because I can convert viewers into buyers and whatever the product is so brand deal wise I typically make six figures every year. The first number is not one that's brand deal then stand up if I'm on tour because I feel like y'all just got off tour. We did do a tour like a little short little cities and that one went really well. We uh I mean look Kevin Kev on stage has such a big audience if you go on tour with him you're gonna be in front of a lot of bodies and then they also like to buy merch. So merch is I get paid well from the tour but also selling products also helps. So touring is usually lucrative as well in a shorter span of time but it it uh asks for more energy it asks for more like coordinating of things. Yes. Where brand deal I can shoot a nice lucrative brand deal in 30 minutes in my kitchen, edit it and send it off versus we got a book of flight okay you got the kids for this this week I'll be back. You know it's a lot of um so touring when I am touring is just but it's all again it's a lot of work to put on a tour television right now that thing be so up and down I'd be like I'll be like last year was great or next year. So did we qualify for insurance this year? Did we get the health insurance? Yeah that's a real stuff. So it just television has not become the most lucrative it ain't been my ER days yes starting on it was amazing. We ended up buying our first house because ER was so regular for me. But then I got pregnant didn't have ER and I was like oh will we how we about to make they took you off ER because you got pregnant no the show ended. Oh okay so I made it all the way to the season for the series finale. So the show was gone I tested for three pilots that year hiding my pregnancy I was strapping my stomach down so they wouldn't know I was pregnant because I was like I'll have him before we go into the I was like I had it all planned out tested for three which was kind of unheard of didn't book none of them not nail one. I was like oh my God what are we gonna do? How are we gonna do this? And it's been crazy ever since like nothing has ever felt like this is going to be the boat that like sails me on to my dreams at all.

SPEAKER_03

And it was a full but then you went full pivot for socials.

SPEAKER_05

No I ain't never full pivoted. I'm still in both lanes it's just one just be paying and the other one be like that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_03

And social is the is the more consistent because I feel we've we had this conversation all the time I feel like some part not the creatives but the entities industry parts of it they are a little uh unclear that that's what's happening over in social.

SPEAKER_05

Like uh a friend of mine booked something and they was like hey well we need you to stop doing this on the social he was like hey hey hey hey stop is crazy talk do you know what this is correct paying me right yeah it was like it was like brother I had booked a uh pilot for CBS um Rust I can't remember it's something Rust in the name anyways um and we had to do carve outs because I have the podcast with Kevin I have the podcast with my husband and then I have another podcast that's more seasonal and I had to tell my people I will turn this down if they don't allow me to do this because what it was going to do was cut off all my brand deals because you can't really align yourself with any brands especially if the show is you know selling ad space you can't then be like they got a Tide space and then you on your social media talking about gain. It just doesn't they were like we would have to approve any brand deal you did. So I was like well you're not gonna cut out my podcast because my podcasts are making me enough money that I'm not gonna throw this away and if this show does not go or gets canceled you just stopped all my momentum and trying to gain that momentum back is not going to be easy. So luckily I did that because the show did not make it out of its pilot. We shot the pilot, CBS didn't pick it up. And had I taken all that time off, because we had to wait like two months, it would have been a thing of y'all didn't hurt my pockets, and I don't know if I can get that money back.

SPEAKER_03

Hey, you got some podcasting tips?

SPEAKER_05

What you mean?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you'd be doing some good news over there. You wouldn't know. Yeah, I'm working with some uh great people on a great podcast with great guests.

SPEAKER_05

Who's you know what? Uh okay, uh let me speak with all transparency. Podcasting like ad revenue down. I don't know when that's gonna turn around. I think because everybody jumped into the pod. I mean, every the fact that Michelle came back to do Michelle Obama came back to do another podcast, I was like, girl, don't you got enough money? Go write a book and leave the space alone. So because it got so like flooded, I feel like, especially during the pandemic, the marketing dollar kind of started to like get thinned out some. I feel like it's eventually gonna have another upturn. But I think the biggest thing is one consistency, which it sounds like y'all, cause y'all batshoot a lot, right? Consistency, and then however you all are cutting y'all's um social clips, like to get the eyeballs, because I'm sh all of y'all have large online following, but that doesn't mean all of them are watching a full episode of this. Right. So just trying to figure out a way to convert those eyeballs as well as a clip can go viral. What's crazy is me and Kevin have been doing here's the thing for six years. There are so many people of Kevin's followers that have no idea that he has a podcast with me until a clip goes viral.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. So we uh speaking out, couldn't have been a better transition. The you're you're an actress, I'm doing these things. I am a trend, I am a thesbian is beautiful. I am a mom, I'm pr producing stuff for myself, I have these podcasts, and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, you I ain't gonna say fucking around, but but fucking around on here's the thing, do a diddy that turns into this damn hit. I know. How do we get to one margarita? This is outright. I I was a good song. Yeah, it's like it's like you I I I saw it happen in real time, uh-huh, but when it becomes this thing, where where is your mind at? Like, this is happening.

SPEAKER_05

This is uh Exact that. I was like, Lord, what is this? This is pure foolishness.

SPEAKER_03

This is not it's not on your bingo card. It couldn't have been on your bingo card.

SPEAKER_05

It wasn't on my bingo card, but I am the stupid chick that's always don't let me get drunk. I'm a freestyle. I'm just gonna freestyle half of it ain't gonna make sense, but there'll be a couple of fire ass bars here and there.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_05

So I was sober, obviously, on here's the thing, and I was just like, ooh, this sounds like and luckily, luckily we me and Kevin have um have created an environment for each other that we trust each other. So he's just like, oh, you want to do something dumb. Let's do something dumb in this moment. I don't I knew that this the little snippet would go viral. I didn't know that it would have life outside of the online. Like that's the part that I don't think that definitely was not uh on my bingo card. I was to have Cindy Crawford shoot a music video with me. I'm like, where y'all go get y'all went to Canada and got this woman to come down here. Like, what is really it to have to have sexy red do a remix of the song like I was like, what is happening? I am 40 something years old. Get it sexy, yeah, pretty much. Uh so no, it was that was the one of the craziest years. It was fun. It was definitely fun. I loved being in that space, and it showed me how much I put myself in a box. Nobody else thought of it as a joke. The record label didn't take it as a joke. You know what I'm saying? The rappers that came onto the song, they didn't take it as a joke.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, this is a hit.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. So it was really very much so like, what is what is this? Like, but and I was like, I'm over here, like, oh my God, this is so dumb, da-da-da. Nobody else was saying that but me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I I when I saw it, I was like, because it could come across as a a spoof, like a parody of a rap song. But then when you got somebody like Sexy Red saying her booty hole is brown, you could take your margarita song as a real deal song because you have other examples of female rappers that got something that's so absurd. Yeah, outlandish. Outlandish that it's like, yeah, okay. If she likes, she'll put it in a tush. Yeah. Yeah. I I had this question because you have you have these four boys. How old are they?

SPEAKER_05

16, 10. Oh, sorry, they turned 11 yesterday. 16, 11, 11, 6.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. A twins? Mm-hmm. Oh. Amazing. So I have a third, uh, well, she's about to be 13 next month. And so they have grown up watching you on social media.

SPEAKER_04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02

When did you decide, or what age, do you feel like is a good age for them to be on social media? Or is that a conversation that y'all have in your household?

SPEAKER_05

Oh no, no. I think we I think we have a very much so an idea. Like I control their image on social media. So my kids have an account, but I'm the only one that posts on that. My 16-year-old has a private account that he only allows people that he knows personally to follow him. So adults, like our our followers or viewers cannot follow my 16-year-old son. Um and we just let him have a social media account that wasn't controlled by me for Christmas, I think the year before last. Yeah. I was like, you can have an account for you to be able to communicate with your friends. Period. I was like, it's not a public account, it needs to be private. And like his followers is very little. Uh we because also being somebody that works on social media, I also know how people can hide apps and stuff. So I didn't bent all through his phone, made sure he ain't had no, like, I was like, absolutely cannot have Snapchat. I was like, people doing all types of crazy stuff over there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Um and I so I let him choose between TikTok or Instagram. He was like, I would prefer to be on, which I was shocked. She was like, I would prefer Instagram. Um, I do allow him, I will say this. He is allowed to have a YouTube account that I actually started when he was five to do gaming streaming. Okay. But like before he posts anything, we go over. Did you say anything that that is uh sexist, racist, homophobic? Where you on their cussing? He he is a very like kid. So he's not that type of he's not that type of dude.

SPEAKER_02

That's hilarious. He's not. She called her son a nerd. He is. I've called him that to his face. You call uh Kevin Dick nerd. I said that about my wife. My wife, my wife a nerd, so I I feel I feel he's. Listen, I love it. Shoot. You need him, you need him in the family. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

So he has that, but like, because also I'm like, this is a real career. I'm not about to sit here and be like, no, social media, the the bills is getting paid because of social media. So I'm like, I will help you if you want to grow this and make some money off of it because I want you to have your own money, but we're gonna do it right so that you're not over here having to explain stuff when you're 27 of some stuff you said as a stupid 15-year-old.

SPEAKER_01

Right. When was a uh when was a time where you felt really discouraged in trying to get this career thing going? And how did you work through that?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I feel like I those moments still can sometimes happen with me because I know I'm not where I would like to be. So I definitely know I had those moments when I was w after I had my first son, because I really I didn't know how to navigate the world. And the world of traditional television never became easy for me to navigate. Like we were out here with no family, me and my husband, and I was like, who is going to watch the baby? Daycare is the cost of a mortgage. So he can't go to daycare and having Brishay never watched a baby before, so that was even though she did, she didn't know what the hell she was doing. She my baby was alive when I came back, so that's all that mattered. But it was it was very much so like how am I supposed to do this? Why does it feel this like hard? Like, I don't feel like anybody else is having to have this feeling all the time. And even now, sometimes I'll be like, is it time to leave LA? Everything costs so much, and I'm having to hustle so hard just to keep up with the cost. Like, I would not have to output so much if the uh bills weren't so high.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we just was talking to somebody about this recently that had left, moved to Texas, bills were low, uh, and don't stay taxed, it was like all these beautiful things. It was like, why'd you come back? It's like I don't like being around civilians. It's something about LA's get up and go get it that that kind of keeps a fire under you. But like you said, if if you're producing this many things, you know, uh I I'm at the house with my cameras and my setup, and you know, I can come and pot, I can fly in and out as much as I want. It's like I could figure this out another way.

SPEAKER_02

I will say my biggest flaw professionally right now is that I own a house in Florida. And living in Florida, the weather's nice, other than when there's a hurricane threat, and you might lose everything. The weather's nice. My family is there, my parents are there, we have a pool in the backyard. It lessens your drive to want to go out and get it. And so I will so that that that is something just to think about. Uh, I just feel like anybody, if you're thinking about leaving LA, it's like, if you do leave LA, I don't know, it's almost like almost pick a city where you feel like you still can that has the energy to go to get because I I or unless you you cool on not doing none of that stuff, and then you're not worried about it. But I do feel like, damn, like have it, it's almost like it's a good thing to have because it keeps me my mind right, it keeps me at peace, but at the same time, I know it's taking away some of my like drive to be like whatever level I'm trying to get to.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. It's that I I get exactly what you mean. That's probably why we haven't actually pulled the trigger to leave. Also, we don't want to uproot our kids from the village that we've created. Yeah. But sometimes I'm like, do I how how long do I want to hustle this hard? We all at the age, I don't know y'all's ages, but everybody's 36.

SPEAKER_02

I'm 16.

SPEAKER_05

I was gonna say that. I was gonna say that. I was gonna say it. I was gonna say it.

SPEAKER_02

But I play between the ages. I play between the ages.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly. Exactly. I I'm pretty sure I think I'm the oldest person, oldest person in this room. Um, I know eventually I don't want to have to work as hard as I am working. Right. I enjoy that I get to work as hard as I'm working right now. It's a I know it's a blessing, but I know eventually I'm gonna want to be like, all right, I I'll do I'll do a couple of podcasts in the week and then I'm gonna be with my family.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So I feel I feel you.

SPEAKER_05

So I feel like I'm in that, I'm not in the season where I'm ready to do that, but I feel like sometimes I to answer your question in this season where everything is so expensive, and I'm constantly having to figure out what the next idea is. Yeah. What the that I'll be like, is this the person that's clocking in is not necessarily having to figure out the next idea. Now, do they get to have as many like big moments? Do they get to have a one margarita moment? No. Right. But they do get to have like the the good feeling of once they clock out of work, they ain't got to think about work again until they clock back in.

SPEAKER_03

Right. I mean, uh why you since you brought up one margarita, I I wanted to touch this too. Did you always know Saucy would be the Saucy Santana ended up on the remix? Was that how did that choice come about? Because I feel like it was doing really good in that community also.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, we knew listen. I love me, my gaze. And we knew when uh we took the song to the record label, we knew that we wanted the remix to go over into that, to be like, here is a gift. Because they were already, they were already had it up in their clubs. Okay, they would like put it in Matush, right? And I was like, You can have it. Stuff it in. So stuff it in.

SPEAKER_02

Um Saucy is a uh pause. I I usually don't say pause, but I felt like that one was necessary. Just for me. For me. We're gonna clip it. You'll just kind of link it in the head. I need to pause myself.

SPEAKER_05

Um Saucy Santana is a trailblazer. Like he's one of the first out gay rap and extremely feminine gay rappers. So, and he was killing it at the like he had had a couple of hits back to back, and he loved the song. Like, he was excited to so me and him talked on the phone, and he was like, I absolutely want to do it. And I was just, I was, and he also has a great social media presence as well. Saucy is hilarious.

SPEAKER_02

So if Saucy stay at he's he in LA?

SPEAKER_05

Uh he in Miami. Oh, Miami, okay. He's either it's either Miami or Atlanta. Sometimes they seem like the same place to me.

SPEAKER_03

It was probably Atlanta, if we're being honest.

SPEAKER_05

But he had a great social media presence, so it's also really good marketing, too, because he's not just a he's not just a rapper. He is an actual entertainer on digital entertainer as well.

SPEAKER_03

What is the relationship like with Fuse? Because you have three shows over there now.

SPEAKER_05

Well, all of the So when the Kev on Stage Studios app took went night night for the rest of its life. It could bite by. It went bye-bye. It could bite by app. Um, Fuse uh licensed pretty much all of our content.

SPEAKER_03

Got it.

SPEAKER_05

And I had three shows on the app, so.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you. But you have ownership in any of them? All of them. Woo! Blessing. Give them on that blessing. Three blessings. That's three blessings. Three blessings. Good. We got a game on this show.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, I love a good game.

SPEAKER_02

Called Kill It or Let Live. Okay, kill it. I'm gonna throw out a topic. You're gonna say whether if you like it, you're gonna say let it live. If you're not messing with it, you're gonna say kill it.

SPEAKER_05

I love a good game.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, kill it or let live. Your husband taking a trip to Columbia with his homeboys, but he says he's not taking his cell phone. Oh, kill it.

SPEAKER_04

What are we talking about? Kill him, kill them, kill all of it, kill Columbia.

SPEAKER_02

What are we talking about? Kaboom, killing Columbia? Everybody get it.

SPEAKER_05

What? We can't even go to Columbus, Ohio, but I'm gonna kill it.

unknown

Okay, kiss that.

SPEAKER_02

Kill it or let live. Okay, kill it or let live. People watching videos on their cell phone in public without headphones.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I'm gonna let it live because I'm that girl.

unknown

I'm that girl.

SPEAKER_05

I can't never find my ear pods. I don't like things in my ears all the time. So yes, you're gonna listen to me watch this baby fall down the steps, and I'm gonna laugh about it to the point of tears.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, you feel like that's almost a woman thing because my wife is the same way. Like, usually when I see somebody watching something on like TikTok or something, it's usually a woman without the headphone. I just don't understand why it's so loud.

SPEAKER_05

I don't mind it being killed. Everybody else is loud. We can't hear it over the rest of the world.

SPEAKER_03

Without louding it, yes. Y'all look, so I can hear my show.

SPEAKER_02

Right. All right. Kill it or let live. You the richest woman in the world. Mm-hmm. Okay? I was gonna say, we can let it live. Isn't there anything? There's more. There's more. Oh no. You're the richest woman in the world. But your husband has to hook up with Michelle Obama. Let it live.

SPEAKER_05

Tell me about it after woman. I wasn't expecting that after the first half. So you just don't want us to be happy. I'll be like, you still gonna have to take one for the team. Whatever it is on that card, you're gonna have to be with it.

SPEAKER_02

We're gonna be rich. Kill it or let live. People bringing emotional support animals on planes.

SPEAKER_05

Man, I really know let's kill it. Let me tell you, if it's not a real service dog, because emotional support animal is just you don't want to be alone. Okay, the get an actual handler, get a person to be with you. A service dog is different. You can't actually move throughout life without this person. So we're gonna kill emotional support dogs. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Kill it is the last one. Kill it or let live. You're the biggest celebrity of all time. Okay. You have the most followers ever. But you have to go back in time and be a slave for three days. Oh no, we'll be right here. No.

SPEAKER_05

No, let me tell you, I was not built for slavery. I know that that's why God let my ancestors go through it and not me, because that they would have killed me real quickly. They'd be like, you are worthless. I'll be like, I am.

SPEAKER_01

But they really tried. I tried, but I can't. I can't.

SPEAKER_05

It's so hot. My pressing curl won't stay. You don't recognize me without the pressing girl.

SPEAKER_03

She go back to cabinet. She go back to cabinet. Uh another game. Okay. Um is uh last game. Last game. We should let them know that. Last game, yeah. You keeping three. You kill it. We say kill it. Sure, yeah. It goes with it. Kill it, yeah. Keeping three, killing six.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It's blind. I'm gonna just name them off.

SPEAKER_04

Are you proud, Dad? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Pretty good people. I'ma name them off, and you don't know what's coming next.

SPEAKER_05

So I I have to kill in real time. I can't just wait and listen. Nope. Okay. So it's nine, nine folk, nine something that's coming towards me. It's eight. Eight. It's five. I'm sorry. Three five. Three five. Okay. I was gonna say I thought you said three six, three five. Got it, got it, got it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, double masters. Uh black movies.

SPEAKER_05

So I have to decide right now.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they could.

SPEAKER_05

What's Let It Live?

SPEAKER_02

Uh, black movies. Black movies, okay.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, no, that's the category. I thought that was something I had to kill a uh Okay, okay, gotta be simple for me. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03

House party.

SPEAKER_05

One.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh. We're gonna let it live. That does make a difference. Okay, okay. You holding you holding on a you holding on the house party? Okay, cool. Waiting to exhale.

SPEAKER_05

We'll keep it.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, you only got one more.

SPEAKER_05

No, I'm not. Oh, I can only keep three. Okay, go back. Kill, kill. Yeah, yeah. Kill them. Sideway. I'm sorry. I thought I got to keep five. Okay, they're dead.

SPEAKER_03

All right. Five heartbeats. Kill it. All right. Boys in the hood. Kill it. You're gonna end up with the last three.

SPEAKER_05

Ease by you. Kill it. Okay, what's my three that I get to kill it? What's my three?

SPEAKER_03

Alright, so you got so you lost house party, you lost weight in two excel, you lost five heartbeats, you lost a butter rip. Uh no, I'm sorry, you lost you lost boys in the hood, but you kept above the rim. You kept Love Jones. Okay. You happy with Love Jones. Yeah, I'm a good with the Don't Be a Minnesota.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think you're happy with that.

SPEAKER_03

You came out killing too fast. You don't know when they're gonna kill babies.

SPEAKER_02

You're not killing them. I did, I did. Yeah. Now what would have what would have you uh kept?

SPEAKER_05

I would have possibly kept waiting to exhale.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Because I got to keep. Wait a minute, I got to keep Love Jones above the rim.

SPEAKER_03

And and Don't Be a Menace. Don't be a menace. So what would have been your three?

SPEAKER_05

Okay. What uh I would have replaced.

SPEAKER_03

You caught five heartbeats, called Boys in the Hood.

SPEAKER_05

I would have probably kept Boys in the Hood and took out Don't Be a Menace. I would have kept Boys in the Hood waiting to exhale and Love Jones. Those would have been my three.

SPEAKER_02

All right. We appreciate the coming through. Thank y'all for having me.

SPEAKER_05

I did. I really did. I don't know. I'm telling you, I didn't know what I agreed to. I didn't know if it was your podcast. I didn't know. He just said, Can you do a podcast? I was like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Am I gonna be on camera? I said, absolutely. You showed that. I'd never call you for no bullshit. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02

Let people know your socials and anything you got coming up or what they should be looking out for or checking out.

SPEAKER_05

Um, That Chick Angel on all socials. Um, me and my husband will be on tour in June for our podcast. Is this gonna cause an argument? Um then in late summer, I'll be on um tour with my One Woman show. So far, so good.

SPEAKER_01

Nice.

SPEAKER_02

Praise God. Praise God! Make sure you like, comment, subscribe. I said comment, comment. I don't know what I said. Like, comment, subscribe to the YouTube page, leave comments, uh, let us know your favorite parts. And uh, yeah, man, we've been your host, Justin Hyas. London Brown, B T Kingley. And this has been the one and only That Chick Angel.