PREACHER LAWSON

Comedian, Preacher Lawson, discuss his career skyrocketing after appearing on 'America's Got Talent', being influenced by Kevin Hart, being a clean comic, martial arts training, stand-up touring with his mom, and more.

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Executive Produced by London Brown, Justin Hires, BT Kingsley

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

All right, man. We back. We back up in here, man. Feel good. It feels good to be back.

SPEAKER_05 0:05

We so consistent they don't even know when we be taking time off in between uh in between shoots. Hey man. We ain't shot in weeks. Uh huh, we're ahead.

SPEAKER_04 0:15

Man, we got a phenomenal episode. Thank you, London, for showing up. Now see, I typically I have cars too, but since London was late, I don't have no cars. So now I'm gonna look like the city.

SPEAKER_05 0:26

I got my numbers ready and stuff, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 0:28

Nah, I look like the unprofessional one. They don't care. That's old stuff. That's filled up. Oh, man. Nah, man. Anyway. Bro, just do it like this, they'll never know. I'm gonna let y'all know.

SPEAKER_05 0:42

My hand's gonna have arthritis in a little bit, but I got my notes in here, man.

SPEAKER_04 0:45

This is why I let it be late, because he he dressed better than us. It takes time.

SPEAKER_03 0:50

No, but don't give me no man. I'll give you a real thing. So where I stay, there's a valet situation, right? So I call, I say, yeah, I need my car down. I'm saying, give it 15 minutes. Let's get it. Let's get it. I said, okay, I said, yeah. So I'm calling and get down this with my car. Uh it's going to be another 15 minutes. So now I'm dancing. Yeah. I get over here on the Burbank exit, Burbank lockdown. And in his construction. I don't know what's going on, but thank y'all for your patience.

SPEAKER_04 1:15

I want everybody to realize that subtle flex, that his apartment complex has a valet situation.

SPEAKER_03 1:21

It's an apartment. I'm not owning properties.

SPEAKER_04 1:25

I'm not at Lincoln, the front row Lincoln game. You do got legacies of tickets.

SPEAKER_02 1:31

I didn't know I could jump in.

SPEAKER_04 1:32

Oh, you can't get it.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

I don't know, man, my bad. Hey, hey, yeah. Legate tickets. We see this man on a sprite commercial every five days, bro. He's the commercial king. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:42

Commercial king. Man, we're finna get into your intro, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:45

But what's the what's the note pass for? I mean the uh the comments. Oh, we got notes for you. We be having questions. Oh, okay. You haven't seen the show. Oh, this is great.

SPEAKER_05 1:51

Yeah, this is about you, brother. I don't watch five.

SPEAKER_04 2:04

Welcome to another episode of Killin' It. Um, we're your host, Justin Hyas. London, brother. BT Kingsley. And uh, man, we got one of the funniest comedians, rising comedians in the game, man. I gotta say your credits. Everybody don't have me saying the credits because some of these niggas don't have none. But you they don't have nothing worth me, really. Anyways, you do though. Okay, so I I gotta say, I gotta get into some of your credits. Okay. America's got talent. The tonight show, three special. You got three specials, right? Yeah. Three comedy specials, over 1.1 million followers on Instagram, and who knows on TikTok and Facebook. He said like 3.5 on TikTok.

unknown 2:45

Woo!

SPEAKER_04 2:46

Give it up for the one and only Preacher Lawson. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:50

Thank you for having me. Thank you for having me. Man, what's happening, brother? I'm chilling, man. I'm chilling. I just woke up early because y'all want to do the podcast at 5 o'clock in the morning. It's early, man. He was up anyway. He was in the gym.

SPEAKER_04 3:04

He probably was in the gym working out. What time you wake up to work out?

SPEAKER_02 3:06

I I mean, as soon as I wake up, I go to the gym. Just so because I don't want to do it. So I'm going to go to the back. But what time? Like maybe like 9 a.m. Oh.

SPEAKER_04 3:13

Oh, you wake up late.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

Yeah, I wake up late. Yeah, yeah. I try to sleep in. Is nine late? Yes. But I mean, he's a you're a tour comedian. I don't understand. Cause like y'all we do comedy at night. So y'all ain't like, y'all do comedy and get home at like 11.30 at night and then y'all just go to sleep? I do not. Yeah. I do. I went to sleep last night at 3.50. That's what I'm saying. So like I be I sleep late. You know, so like I I condition my body to sleep late. Because I'm like, I wanted to be consistent.

SPEAKER_04 3:41

You're also a more successful touring comedian than us. I be playing a BT. I be I be in Florida and I be looking at his Instagram. He be walking around LA three o'clock in the morning. I'm like, I know you was fresh out of some. I'm a little like though. I'm trying to tell you. Hey, man, pretty, this is what I wanted to ask you. This is actually my first question. I saw you cut off your locks. You had locks for a long time. Now I have a theory why you cut your locks off. I'ma say my theory. Okay. And then I want you to say what the real answer is. You're probably right. My theory is you was like, I'm trying to get booked in Hollywood. And I'm tired of maybe perhaps scaring these white people that's casting these TV shows and films. So to appear less threatening, let me cut off these locks, look nice, so I can start booking some TV films.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

Yeah, you know what? So the main reason is just this is just easier. You know what I mean? Like I having locks is just like you gotta take care of it. That's an extra three hours in the chair. Like I'm just not trying to do that. But that was part, that was part of the reason. But it don't matter now. It don't matter. You got like everybody that has locks, Kai Sonat, Josh Johnson. I mean, people have like people have locks. And even when I had locks, I was doing all right. But um, yeah, I just wanted my hair. This is easier. I don't even brush my head, man. I put a hat on. I put a hat, my hair looks a trap, like it's terrible right now. It's doing the Kevin Durant, just get up and go. Hey man, the Kevin Durant would look good right now. This is bad. I was uh some people trying to donate money when I'm walking past. But uh no, I'm I'm uh I just put a hat on, man. So I'm I'm just like I just need something easier. It was just in the way. I'd be eating food and then my hair be like, let me get some of that. And I'm like mustard in my hair. So I mean I'm just chilling, you know.

SPEAKER_05 5:42

It is easier because I had braids for a while too. Yeah. So we we obviously we have to talk AGT. Um I wanna know before we get into the success that you had on the show and the run, what was the thought process of going into I am going to do this?

SPEAKER_02 5:59

Man, you know, like that wasn't the first time I auditioned for America's Got Talent. I did it like maybe when I was like three years in. And that was when I was eight years in when I did it the time where it worked. But I just did my set. You know, I was like, I'm gonna do my set. They gonna like me or not like me, you know? But I'll just do the best version of me. And uh I remember like I had a walk when I first went on America's Got Talent that was like got pretty popular when I would go on tour. Sometimes to this day, people like, do the walk. And I'm like, I did that walk because I was scared. Like I did that walk because I was like trying to, I was that was nervous energy, and I was just trying to like, you know, trying to fake it, you know. This is the walk out onto the set? Yeah, yeah. Really? Yeah, yeah. I did like this, I did this this silly walk because I was just so I was so scared. That was the most afraid I've ever been to perform ever, besides the first time I ever went on stage. But as soon as he got I got on stage, I was fine. What were you nervous about? Just like, I mean, that's Simon. I used to I used to watch him on uh uh American Auto with my family, you know what I mean? Like, you know, I didn't really know the other people. I mean, I know Heidi, Mel B, you know, Spice Grass. I listen, you know, I remember songs and stuff, Howie, Bobby's World, but I was nervous about like, you know, uh Simon being there. Because I was like, I used to watch this dude on American Auto all the time. He was cruel too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Oh god, I'm sorry, go ahead. Well, I'm just I he I thought he was, I always thought he was just honest. You know what I mean? He's like, usually he's like, that's trash, and he and we agree. You know what I mean? Like we like, oh yes, we we like that. We like when someone's like like honest. Right. How do you prepare for that? Oh man, I just did my set, man. I just did my I I I um I had some bits that I was like, I'm gonna try out, and uh they tell you what you can't say, you know, which is like it's TV, so it is kind of like you do. I mean, but I ain't have to edit too much because I'm not like dirty. But um You work pretty clean. Yeah. You work clean, clean. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I work clean, I guess. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:55

What with behind that decision to be a clean comic?

SPEAKER_02 7:58

Well, I didn't start cussing until 2020.

SPEAKER_04 8:00

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

Isn't that wild?

SPEAKER_04 8:03

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 8:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't start getting custom.

SPEAKER_04 8:06

You say that in your special, don't you? Don't you do you talk about that in your special?

SPEAKER_02 8:09

I mean, I talk about cussing, you know, uh, yeah, one of my specials, yeah, where I was like, uh, I did an audition and I did an audition, it's a true story. And then like they wanted me to cuss in it, but I didn't, I wasn't, I wasn't cussing. So I I they were like, you know, like I I kept giggling, and then they were like, nah, like someone died they're saying you can't be giggling. I was like, damn, you know, I just couldn't do it. It was just funny. And so like, but uh, yeah, I didn't start cussing until like 2020, man. I cuss now, but where does the not you know the no profanity thing, where'd that come from? It's just well I just grew up going to church eight days a week, you know what I mean? So like my my my my mom, I only heard it cuss twice in my life. I mean, I heard it more now. Right now I'm adult, but I've only heard her cuss, so it wasn't even in my house. Like I just I just didn't cuss. You know, my family didn't cuss, like knowing in my, I just wasn't around cuss words. You know what I mean? I thought when you cuss, you go to hell. So I was like, I don't want to go to hell, man.

SPEAKER_04 9:05

I'm going 12 times. I'm going with you now. I'll go I'm going with you. You're doing all the catching up, you know.

SPEAKER_02 9:13

Oh, I'm listening. But that was that was it. I mean, I just didn't cuss growing up, so I just kind of carried it into my adulthood. And then when in 2020, I was like, this shit is stupid. Like, why would I not? I'm grown, man. This is so stupid, bro. I'm like, I'm like, I would be in my car by myself, bleeping out words. Yeah. And I'm like, no one else is there. I'm bleeping out words, bro. And I was like, this is so dumb.

SPEAKER_04 9:34

But that's because the Lord is always watching, bro. Okay. Well, this is what I want to know. So with with AGT, what's something like challenging or something that uh you wasn't expecting about the process of doing that show?

SPEAKER_02 9:52

Man, I think it's like that show is like, I think people think it's fake or something, you know, but it's just like, I mean, y'all know TV. So it's just it's like exaggerated. So they take a truth and then they exaggerate it. But um I think it's like I didn't think about how stressful it because for me the performer, that was the easy part. But like it's kind of stressful in life, you know, because you kind of it's like it's it's weird. I don't know how big that show is. I I never watched it. Oh wow. I didn't watch it. I just watched on YouTube, I would watch the comedians.

SPEAKER_04 10:22

So see he now we're not offended. He he don't he don't watch Killin' It, he don't watch anything, you know. So you just don't watch it. But listen, we listening, we listening.

SPEAKER_02 10:30

No, I don't watch anything. I didn't watch TV, I couldn't watch TV growing up, man. You know what I mean? I watched like on the weekends, but we couldn't watch TV during the weekday. So like I didn't, there was a lot of like TV I didn't watch. Like if I did watch it, it'd be something my mom watched, like Law and Order, but we didn't watch TV during the weekday. It was only on weekends, so we could watch cartoons Saturday, you know, cartoons or whatever. What did y'all do? Yeah. She made us go outside or something. Like we could not watch TV. I used to go and make friends to try to go, you know, these folks thought I liked them. I won't I like their TV. I used to try to go over the houses because we couldn't watch, there's no TV during the weekdays. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 11:07

Yeah, so until you was 18?

SPEAKER_02 11:09

No, I mean, well, I moved out when I was 16. But um Let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_04 11:15

What made you Okay, so hold on, you needed TV. No, no, no, no, no. It's a 16 on I'm missing it. What um, nah, I do want to know, like, what made you move out at 16?

SPEAKER_02 11:27

Um, I I think so I think that like um, you know, my mom, she it's crazy, man. You know how like you you you you you forgive your parents, right? Well at a certain age. And the usually the age is is how old you are when you your parent, but you know, like my mom, she had me when she was 25. And so, you know, like you know, sometimes when you you kind of get mad at your parents, you like the only reason I'm like this is because you did it, but whatever. And I got I turned 25 and I was like, oh snap, you have four of us at this age. I don't got no kids. Right. Like I can't imagine what you was going through at you know at this age. So I think my mom, she was like, you know, she had a lot. She had four kids, one's disabled, you know, that you got twins, you got um, you got me and my my other sibling. And so like Justin, I'm gonna say his name. Yeah, Justin, yeah, yeah, who's also committed. Shout out to Justin. Yeah. And so, like, I think she was just stressed out, you know. Like, I think it was just like stressed out, so she she was just, you know, you need to go to job core. You know what job core is? It's kind of like military. Yeah, it's kind of like military. I mean, it's like a it's just a it's just like a trade program. It's like for people that got out of prison or something like that. Like, I shouldn't have been there. Like, I shouldn't have been there, man. Like, dudes were getting out for like murder, and then uh they I was over here like, dang it, you know, I'm not cussing. You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? So like crud. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, they yeah, I remember like uh, you know, I it was, yeah, I was just in a program called Job Corps, and I was I was um, yeah, and uh that's why I moved out. I got my GD when I was 16. Isn't that crazy? What? A lot of people just assume for some reason I got a college degree or something. Like, I didn't go to college, bro. I still I got my de I got my GD when I was 16, 17, I just started doing stand-up. And I started to go to college, but I was like, that's not what I want to do. Wow. I want to be a comedian.

SPEAKER_04 13:10

Yeah, I think it's just surprising because you know, it just appears on camera. I know you and your mom are good now, but that you come from just like a good, wholesome background. You have a you have a strong relationship with your mom. I see she's on tour with you. Yeah, she does, yeah. I love my mom.

SPEAKER_02 13:26

Like I love my mom. I've always loved my mom. I've always been like a mama's boy. I know people try to make fun of that. They're like, you mama's boy. Yeah, I like my mom, bruh. Yeah. Like I like my mom. I'm sorry, your mom trash. You know what I mean? Like, I love my mom. Yeah, you can make fun of me for having a good, but like I yeah, I I've always had a good relationship with my my mom, but I think like, you know, you know, I don't I don't know what it's like to have kids. I had to I had like a a dog one time and I was like, I can't imagine this thing talking. You know, so like it's just like so I think she just needed a break. You know, so she was like, you know, I wasn't like, yeah, I just think she needed a break. So we you know, we uh went to this the job core program and I was just there and and then but yeah, she's cool. I mean I'm I came back, I'm I lived with her for a little bit. Um I th well actually when I moved back, I moved in with my brother when I was 17. And then I moved in with her for like you know a few months, and then I moved to uh Portland for a little bit, then I went to Orlando and America.

SPEAKER_05 14:25

Jeez, just so much. First of all, uh you've done something that I don't know. Man, I'd have to search to find uh idea of somebody that you went on tour with your family. Yeah, yeah. You, your brother, and your mom. Was your mom even a comic? No, no, she was just funny and you taught her the ropes, and yeah, you know what I mean? Because that is uh I saw the image and I was like, this is hilarious. Yeah, yeah. Y'all was out having a good time too. She wasn't performing, was she? Yeah, she was.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

She was a host. She performs with me on the weekend, like she still performs with me. She's great. She's been doing comedy six years. So, like, when I moved or land when I moved to Portland, my brother, he moved as well. And I convinced him to do stand-up. So he's been doing it like maybe a year and a half after me. And then, you know, when I got on TV, I started touring, I took my brother on the road, and my mom, she would come to sell merchandise. So, um, so when she was selling merchandise, you know, uh one point I was just when I was in my 20s, I was active, you know, on stage. So like I ripped my pants. So I had to go change my pants. And while I was on, you know, you know, backstage, she went on stage and she was like, ain't preaching an idiot. And then people started laughing because they thought she was joking. And then I went up after that and they laughed at her. I was like, Oh, no, I'm I'm not gonna pay no host. I could just I can just keep the money in the family. So I just took my whole family on tour, which is dope. Like it's I mean, it's really cool. Like, we ain't like the Wayne's family, but like it's really cool to have like your whole family just open up. And it was good. Like, we would my mom would do a joke, my brother would almost tag on to that, and I would like bring it together, and then you know, we we uh we actually filmed like a documentary, you know, like a couple years ago. And uh we're sending it to festivals right now. But yeah, I'm I'm really I feel super incredibly grateful. Like I love my family. I'm like, they're it's just fun to be around them.

SPEAKER_04 16:13

Oh this is the the the biggest question when it comes to that, then does that impede on you getting ass on the road? Oh, that's okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:21

It's funny that everybody say that. Everybody say that, but it's like, come on.

SPEAKER_04 16:27

Do y'all gotta do it?

SPEAKER_02 16:29

Do y'all gotta room next to each other though? Is it like your room, her room? Hey, even if we did. You know what I mean? I mean, how am I how am I here? How my mom make me, bruh? Like she grow. I mean, like, you know what I mean? Come on, man. But no, I'm not like, I mean, I think I think it's good that she's on the road with me because to be real with you, she kind of keeping me in check. Like having my mom right there. I don't want to like embarrass my mom or nothing. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not like acting like crazy. I'm I I feel like I was I was a little more wild when it was just me, especially me and my brother on the road. Like, you know what I mean? Like, but my mom on the road, she just got she got that mom energy, so she just kind of like, you know, and she's not in my, she's not really like, you know, all up on us like that. You know, she's she's a very introvert. I mean, she's introverted, my brother's introverted. Honestly, I'm like, I'm extroverted for our family, but I'm not, I'm pretty introverted. I'm the same way. Yeah, right. Yeah, so I like a lot of people, they see comedians, they be like, you like doing all. And it's like, bro, I kind of like, you know, I like the house. Me too. I like being at the house. I love people. I love being around people and stuff, you know. And I wouldn't even say like you heard it here first.

SPEAKER_04 17:34

Preacher Lawson doesn't like his fans. Clip in!

unknown 17:36

Clip it! We got him!

SPEAKER_03 17:40

I appreciate it. Where does the where's the birth of this funny come from then?

SPEAKER_02 17:46

Oh man, see, I didn't even think I was funny enough to be a comedian, but that's I think I don't know if that's because you watch comedians and you just compare yourself to the best version, their best version, you know what I mean? Yeah. So it's like, you know, it's um it's almost like unrealistic, but I I I just always like making people laugh. Like I remember the first time I made someone laugh, I was like, there was an Asian kid on the swing. And then, you know, and uh he was Asian, but it's not like important, but he was. But he was on the swing and then he was swinging his feet in there, and I went in front of him and I faked like he kicked me, and I was rolling around the bark dust, and this dude was cra I mean he was dying. Like he was dying laughing. And then like the next day of recess, I faked like he kicked me again, he was like cracking up, and like the third day he did it again, and he wasn't laughing, he's like, You gotta get some new jokes. You know, I was like, You gotta get some new jokes. And I was like, But it's still like him laughing. I was like, bro, I love making people laugh. I was like, this is really cool. So I've always liked making people laugh, but you know, I didn't think I was uh necessarily funny enough to be a comedian. I wanted to be on a sitcom, and I just at that time, you know, everybody's uh every um you know uh sitcom starred a comedian, so I was like, I'll I'll do it. And then I did it, and I was like, oh, I'm doing this.

SPEAKER_05 18:58

What up, y'all? Thank you for uh watching, man. Listen, we appreciate you, but I need you to go ahead and hit that little subscribe. Don't hit the little subscribe button. Thank you. That didn't take but so long. Look at you. Harmless. So okay, so I have to ask this because uh I've tried to navigate this conversation with other comedians that I see um they have uh something specific and they don't know how to find their voice in it. You have a very specific voice in comedy because you are hilarious, but you're also like you're zany. Like like you have like a a a unique approach that's non I ain't gonna say it's non-traditional because we've seen very successful people be in this lane. Yeah, but it's but it but it's the art form is uh different. Like it's a it's like if one person person was if this was a different art medium, one somebody might be doing painting, somebody might be doing pastels, like it's abstract, right? It's like your timing, your rhythm, how did you find your writing style? Like, I'm these are the things that lean to my palate. Yeah, how am I getting here? That's a fantastic question. Because it's more than I've ever seen a question like that, but that's I appreciate that. Well, we comics, so we you know, we we see the art form a little differently, and somebody up here doing monologues or doing you know I mean, some kind of government or politics or whatever is very different than what you're doing, and the the time is different, baby. We yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So how did you get there?

SPEAKER_02 20:29

I mean, I like because well, I wasn't like, I mean, I watched stand-up comedy, but I wasn't like I I didn't think like I wasn't like, oh, I'm gonna be a comedian when I start. You know, I I just liked, bro, I like SpongeBob, I like mad TV, Michael McDonald, I thought he was hilarious. I was a huge fan of Aries Pierce, you know what I mean? Like, I liked like comedy, like Jamie Foxx show, you know, like I grew up on 90s comedy, Spongebob, bruh. Like, I'm just I just liked, you know, like silly things. I remember Jim Carrey always hurting himself for laughter. I really took that to like, I was like, I'll hurt myself for laughters. Like I was like in the beginning of me doing stand-up, I would hurt myself just to get people laughing and stuff. And then I was like, this is stupid, bro. Like my leg hurt. I like I slowed it down. But uh I would like legit like, you know, but um, but yeah, so I mean I just liked I just did little things and I just grew up differently. Like I was, I was, I moved a bunch. Like I was born in Portland, Oregon, and I moved to like to uh San Antonio, Texas. I went back to Oregon when I was nine, I moved to Memphis, Tennessee. I grew up in Memphis, Tennessee, you know, so like Memphis, Portland, that's not the same. It's very different, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 21:33

It's not the same most different than the city.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

It's the most different that you can get. Like it's crazy, it's insane. So like I have just different perspectives from different things. I I was the only black person in my class, and then you go to Memphis, and then they're like, you the only white person here. And I'm like, that's not I'm not, I'm not. I'm I'm black. Where your go-toothing?

SPEAKER_05 21:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like I'm I'm eleven. Where's your go tooth?

SPEAKER_02 21:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, you know, I um yeah. I just I just you know I moved around a lot. I've like lived in cars when I was growing up sometimes. So like you know, I just have like I think I just have like a accumulation of different perspectives. And I just you know put it.

SPEAKER_05 22:12

So okay, you have that. Now you start doing stand-up and you're watching other stand-ups and people aren't like you. So how uh what was your like North Star to f to like honing it?

SPEAKER_02 22:24

Yeah, when I first started, man, even I even in my America's got talent, I think you can con you know you it's you can it's pretty clear I'm a Kevin Hart baby. You know what I mean? Like Kevin Hart was like a huge influence in me. I I realized that when I was like, like it was too much when I was like maybe like four years in or two or two, three, I don't know, very early on. So I just stopped watching them. I didn't watch him. So I started watching like Lewis C.K. I started, I mean I've always watched Bill Cosby. I was I mean it's so funny, those two comedians. But like, you know, I know I didn't want to say you're a canceled fan. But it's a it's a it's a rap on you, buddy.

SPEAKER_04 22:57

No joking.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

But like, you know, Brian Regan, I was always a huge fan of him. Uh you know, Dane, uh Dane, like I just I just I would watch comedians. I'm like, wouldn't there's nothing, they're nothing like my style. Like they're nothing like because I would just watch my favorite comedians, I'm like, oh, these people make me laugh. And so I just started watching people that I'm like, this is the exact opposite, like deadpan comedians, or like really, really dark. Since I'm not like, you know, a dark comedian, I would watch like really morbid style comedy. And then and uh and it just like I just I feel like that really helped develop, you know, my my my style, and especially touring. I just you know, you know, I think when I don't think you can figure out who you are as a comedian until you're you're torn as a as a headliner. Because like it's like um it just it's just like a year of touring, I feel like my whole style is just like different. You know, but um yeah, I just think that like I just have like um I think everyone has like a unique perspective, and it's just like I maybe I was able to tap into that. So how many shirts have you torn through? That's funny. I don't know. I don't know, bro. I don't know, man. I used to do it every show. I used to go and buy, like I I I'm just thinking how wasteful I was, but I was I was like, I used to I did some I did that bit on AGT where I just like ripped my shirt and then like I would like go to the store before I before I did my show, and I would just be ripping shirts, especially when I had abs, bro. Oh my god, I couldn't wait to show people I got abs. I'm like, man, because now I got abs. The abs I got now is like take the photo. You know, like I gotta hurry up. I gotta, you know, I gotta hold it suck, bruh. Like well, when I was in my 20s, I just woke up ab day. It was just abs for no reason. You know, so I just was I was just like ripping my shirt off with, you know, I went through a bunch.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

But I want to know when did the ticket sales start to pick up for you on your stand-up touring?

SPEAKER_02 24:47

It's so funny. I did, I remember like um um I was on America's Got Talent, and I I didn't even the show's not even over. Like they they aired the first and the second episode. I'm going to the live shows, right? I haven't even done live shows, so that's when like Asians start hitting me up, and then they're trying to like, you know, they're like, hey, let's work together. And I signed with the agency, and I remember my first my first show was at Tempe, Arizona, the Tempe Improv. And I I remember they gave me like a I had a negative $14.37 in my account. Negative. Like I was negative, I was so broke. So I need I had I had to like I barely I had to borrow money to get to Tempe, which thank God it was like, you know, close enough where I can go on like a bus or whatever. So like and then you know they they were like, we'll give you $1,500 for the weekend, even though you're selling out every show, you know, because we don't know if you can sell out, you know, they do this, they do this thing, like clubs do this thing where they have a database where they're like, we don't have proof of you selling out this club, so we're gonna screw you over. And then when you sell it out, when you come back, you know, get your money. And so I for for a few weekends, I was just kind of getting screwed over. And I was just like, I mean, bro, I was probably making them like 50 grand, you know what I mean? And they would give me 50 grand.

SPEAKER_04 26:01

He was already selling out clubs once before the live show.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

Before the live show. I didn't tell you, I did not know how big the show was. I didn't watch it. I just was like, okay, I uh hopefully I can do stand-up and and headline a bowling alley for bonkers. You know what I mean? That's what I'm thinking. And then I was like, let me just get on the first episode. And I got on the first episode, and then I booked a theater off the first episode. What? Off the I booked a theater in Oklahoma off the first episode. It was a 600-seater. Off the first I didn't do the second, I didn't do third, and I just was like, I just couldn't believe it. I was like, this is kind of like crazy. And I'm like, I remember the when I first when it the the episode first aired. I mean I had like I think I had like maybe like five thousand followers. I don't know if maybe like I think I like a five thousand and it jumped up to like fifteen and then twenty, twenty-five. And before like the before, before I think the the I even got to the second episode, it was like 50,000 followers. I was like, this doesn't it didn't make it was crazy. It was insane. Okay, so wait with it.

SPEAKER_04 27:08

I got a hundred thousand. I can't sell out a Costco. I mean I guess the Costco's I can't sell. But now we know why I can't sell out shit, because I can't think of a good punch like that. I can't sell out the belly room at the company store. Uh-uh. Anyways, it's gonna be a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

It's funny, man. I remember when I first came to LA, uh uh you was like, you was like, what do you mean I feel like you were selling at everything?

SPEAKER_04 27:34

I thank you. I was a few years ago.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

I remember you, I remember you not even being on the show. You just popped up at it was like a it was a it was it was at uh flappers and it was packed, and he was like, put me on. And they put you on, then you just like crush, you crush. And you did my favorite joke. You told me that joke work too! Bro, that joke was so funny, man. That joke was so funny, man, because it was just like, it's just it's just wild. Yeah, remember when you told me to do it at the last fight? The way the word you don't you the way you worded it made me seem gay. Because you were like, this is preacher's first favorite joke. And then he did this joke about, man, he did this joke, but whatever. I'm not gonna tell you a joke, but like I got a joke, but I was like, everybody, what I a little bit of gay. You said something like you said you was watching like porn or something, and then you were watching like two lesbians, and you're like, this is kind of boring.

SPEAKER_04 28:32

I was like, I was like, every dude is a little gay because then you watching it, I was like, I'm watching two lesbians, but I'm like, I need to see some.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

But where you saying it, bro, it was so funny. I was like, I was done. And then I was done it, but before he did that joke, because I was just telling him I seen the beginning, I was like, bro, that joke was so funny. I said, I said, do that joke for me, do the joke. And he goes on stage, this is preacher's favorite joke. When did I wanna see some this is preacher's favorite? When the I'm like, bro, you gotta separate it, bro.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

Separate again.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

You maybe be saying what I'm gonna put a job.

SPEAKER_05 29:15

Yeah, that's hilarious. No, yeah. Okay, so wait, so okay, so AGT, uh, when the okay, I I must be missing something in the format of the show, because you said I was doing the live shows. So you tape, you go to AGT, when you film this set, it's live and it's airing.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

Yeah, so um I filmed the uh my first set in March, March 13th, 2017. I did that and then it doesn't air till May. So that the first episode airs in May. The second episode, you know, uh aired like maybe a month later, because they gotta go through.

SPEAKER_05 29:54

But when that May episode hit, uh there were tickets was already selling.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I wasn't even I didn't have an agent. You know what I mean? Like I didn't, I didn't have like an I had a manager who I had a guy who's who he's not even a manager anymore, but yeah, it was it was crazy. It was a guy, I had a I had a couple dudes managing me, and then they begged me not to do America's Got Talent. They were like, do not do it. It's bad. It's like, and I remember this dude, this one of my managers was white, and he was explaining, he's like, bro, this contract's like slavery, man. And I was like, I don't think slaves were like, man, this is just like Simon. You know, like I don't think they were just in the fields like that. I was like, I don't think I said, I I I I read the contract. And I don't even read contracts. I'm like, what how bad is this contract? I read it and I'm like, bro, this is like this is a no-brainer. Like it, the like the it wasn't, I that tells me right then he didn't read the contract. Because, you know, back in the day, like American Idol, you would sign a contract and then you'd be locked in. Right. What are they gonna lock a comedian in? Right. Right. What they're gonna lock the con the only thing that was in there, if you didn't have a manager, you're automatically signing with them. Which is like, okay, you could automatically drop them. I mean, you know, you don't have to. That's why you said it was bad.

SPEAKER_05 31:07

This contract's so terrible. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:09

Because you're gonna leave me. Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

That's really about yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:13

I left them. I mean, uh look, they were cool people, but they begged me not to do they beg me not to do the um the show, and uh I was like, this doesn't make any sense. This is a family-friendly show. I'm a family-friendly, this is like perfectly set up for my comedy, you know, like because he they had another comedian do it, and that comedian bombed. And it and it listen, it's reality TV. So if you do good, they gonna make it seem like you kill. If you do bad, they gonna make it seem like it was the worst thing that ever. So he did bad, so they were like, TV. You know, so they were like, we don't want that to happen to you. And I'm like, why are you that's what I'm being I'm gonna bomb, bro? And so I did that, but they didn't like it. I think they're great people, but they didn't like, they didn't want me to do it, and they didn't come to my first, second performance, third performance, fifth. They came to the finale, and I'm like, bro, you can't be no, you can't be my dad that just missed my whole fresh runs, okay? And then show up and be like, man, I knew I believed in you, man. I knew you I knew you were gonna make it to the NBA, you know?

SPEAKER_03 32:17

But what even start like so your home or your working clubs, where did the the energy come from? Like, yo, this might be the move. Cause I think a lot of times comics are always trying to figure out what the next gig is or how to navigate to get to the next step. So what what was this inspiration? You just like at home, you looking at the show, or what?

SPEAKER_02 32:36

I think I think that I was doing what every comedian was doing, and we just throwing stuff. Right. You like, yo, something gotta stick. So I was doing a bunch of stuff. I mean, I I was kind of like, I actually did a few things that led up to America's Got Town that was like giving me kind of just some steam. Like I I went and did uh comedy on Fox and I did the Seattle International Comedy Competition, I ended up winning that. That's how I got my first manager, you know. Um, and um I just you know, I I just was trying to do everything. I was like, I'll do I you know I tried to audition for America's Got Town before, and it just I didn't do that well, which thank God you know I mean because you know I wasn't ready. I would have got past the first round and bum and then that would have been it. So I I just did at the perfect time. So like I just was trying anything and it just happened to work out. Like I was so glad.

SPEAKER_03 33:17

How long have it set per tape?

SPEAKER_02 33:19

Yeah, so it's like it's like uh two and a half, maybe three minutes. So, but they so you take like a five minute, maybe even like a six-minute bit, and you try to cut all the fat out to get as much as you can, as much juice. So I would take like I would say I I um I would take five minutes each set, so 25 minutes. I would say 25 minutes I did. It's funny because I was I did 25 minutes and I had an okay 45 minutes. So I took the best of my 25 minutes and I only I already had an okay 45 minutes, so I had a whatever 20 minutes that I was going on the road with. And I was just bombing. Like I was just bombing, bro. I just everybody, every feature was burying me. Like, you know what I mean? I just I didn't have any material because I didn't want to go and do the jokes they seen me do on TV. So I had to like, I had to like just like I was doing all kinds of stuff, like, all right, anybody got any questions? Like I was just I had no material. So, but um it didn't know it made me you know pumping the overdrive, and then I I I developed material. Now I can develop material a little bit faster.

SPEAKER_04 34:22

Do you feel like you have a white fan base? Yeah, man. I mean, I'm I have an American fan base. An American fan. That's a great way to say it. Yeah. Yeah, most people in America are white.

SPEAKER_02 34:35

That is a fact. That's a fact. Yeah, yeah, it's a bunch of them.

SPEAKER_04 34:37

So my so my question is do you is there any part of you that wishes that, I don't know, like more black people would also come out to your shows?

SPEAKER_02 34:47

Yeah, you know what? Black people do come to my shows. You know, and a lot of places it depends where I'm at. If I'm in like, uh, if I'm in like what's that stardom or whatever, that's mostly some black people. Yeah, in Alabama, if I go to that club, it's mostly black people. So if it depends on you too, I've seen it. Yeah, I appreciate it. So I mean, I I I have black people that come to my my audience is not majority black. And I think that I think um maybe uh a while back, I wanted that. I'm like, I want like most, you know, mostly black people. But I mean I kind of just want, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Memphis, I started in Memphis where Memphis, Memphis is black, you know. So and uh but I I just want who liked me, you know what I mean? Like I just wanted I want who wants to laugh in my comedy. And and black people are the most diverse group of people in the world, you know. I mean, from like skin tone to like, you know, to musically artistry. So I think that like when black people come to my shows, is I got all kinds of different black people. I got some old black people, I got, you know, I got Asian people that come to my show, I got Hispanic people, you know what I mean. I got like I have a diverse, you know, group. It there's a lot of white people, but it's not only white people.

SPEAKER_04 35:54

See, hold on real quick. I say that because when I was doing MacGyver on CBS, that was, you know, predominantly Caucasian, you know, uh audience. Well, they pay me good white money. Shout out to CBS. Good American money. Good American money. But I remember I tried to get into the in I tried to get tickets to the NAACP image awards. I'm on MacGyver. Yeah. This might be like season three or four, and I'm like, yo, I want to go. I'm I'm like one of the few black actors on network TV at the time. I'm trying to go to the image awards. And the image awards told my black ass, well, we'll give him tickets, but he can't walk the red carpet and he has to sit where basically the background actors are sitting. They treat you like a black person. They treated me like a wow.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

They treat you how white people treat black people. They put you in the uh, what is it called? The peanut gallery. The peanut gallery. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:54

The peanut gallery. And I was like, wow, because I'm not on B.E.T. You see what I'm saying? Because I'm not in a Tyler on a Tyler Perry show or I'm not on power or something like that, y'all don't, you're not treating my blackness or or whatever accomplishments I've made the same. So there was yeah, so there was a part of me that was like, man, I need to, you know, get on some some black stuff because they not even r like respecting the fact. I'm like, I did a rush hour. But but you know, but it was on CBL.

SPEAKER_05 37:22

Nah, man, let's talk, bro. Because that's a very you just hit a really unique thing. Cause uh I was I was in this little debate with somebody not too long ago, and we was talking about Michael Jackson. Yeah. And it was like, yeah, he's a king of pop, and Mike don't do RB. I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm not gonna let y'all gotta stop that narrative. Y'all gotta stop letting somebody become very successful and letting, you know, America take him from us. I was I was like, if if it we can't be our own enemy that way. You can't be starring on a network TV show, having the success that you had, and black people act like you ain't one of ours. You can't be touring out, selling out theaters, selling out comedy clubs, and black people act like you're not one of ours. No, no, no, no, no. He's ours also. It's Memphis and Florida. He's the niggas niggas ever. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like you like, no, absorb all of that. Like, we have a responsibility as black people to love those versions of us as well. To love Tyler the Creator, to love like you know, to Michael Jackson is a R he's he's not only an RB artist, but he is also that as well. Lady of my life, Lady of my life, butterflies, yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Heavy can wait. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. It's like Liberian girl, it's like, yeah, we do that to each other. That's a real thing.

SPEAKER_02 38:53

But I feel like right now is like the most like we've accepted that. Yeah. Like I feel like you right? Because I feel like like black nerds are like all like like anime, like is incredibly popular now for like the black community. Like, it's just, I feel like now it is like growing up, it was not like that. You know what I mean? It's like you do this, you ain't, you know. Yeah, yeah, I feel that. Yeah, so I feel like now is like it's like when did that happen? Like 10 years ago?

unknown 39:20

Shhh.

SPEAKER_04 39:21

Maybe, yeah, it's something, yeah. I would say some like.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

I feel like 2020, bruh.

SPEAKER_04 39:26

At least like eight years, seven, eight years ago.

SPEAKER_03 39:28

But even this year when I watched, um, I saw a little bit of the uh of the awards, and I just didn't know, I didn't even know it had gotten that diverse when I looked at the show. Back in the day, I thought that's what I thought. I thought NWCP was like, it was like a very respected, and I don't want to put it in this, but a very respected, like, you know, when you watch BET Awards, Social Channel Awards, you know, like that's our audience in there. But when I saw it this year, I remember seeing like Ethan Hawke in there. Oh, at the NWCP was. It had done that. So it's an interesting thing now.

SPEAKER_04 40:08

We're gonna have to fact check that everybody. I I'm talking about when I looked at as far as the categories, I wasn't.

SPEAKER_03 40:13

The categories, all the categories. Got it, got it.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

But even Hawk, he was in the training day? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:18

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:18

Okay, come on. He got a black pass.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

He got a pass. This is a training day. Yeah. My thing is my thing with that though, too, is if when we flip these awards, we we we not in though, we're not in the in the building like that, unless you gotta be, you gotta be way accomplished, and then you you you might get some looks. But I just thought that, look, my thing is that we ain't really got much anyway. So can we please a few things we got? Can we can we get a little priority? Like this. That would have been a priority. Let us get a sign.

SPEAKER_02 40:48

I think that's crazy that they because that's a that was that's a major TV show. So I mean, I think that like to me that's more detrimental to them. Hey man, what's up?

SPEAKER_05 40:57

Oh what I'm saying? No, I don't know. I agree with you. Yeah, not only is was it a a major TV show on a major network, the NAACP awards wasn't like it's like Bro, like if if I show up trying to to like show the love, you know what I'm saying? Like, it it that is weird, bro. Oh yeah, it blew my mind. We we have to we gotta do we gotta do a better job of that. All of us is like, hey man, black people. When you're looking at the black people, look at the black people that are killing for black people, look at the black people that are also just killing. And listen, if if if it's white people or others that are that we love, bring them in as well.

SPEAKER_02 41:36

But yeah, you know, don't I can understand if you weren't uh pro-black. Right. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 41:43

Like if you weren't pro-black not some Candace Owen type things, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:48

If you were like just trashing black people, like I mean, or or something like that, I I can maybe I can get I I can see it if you didn't do uh stomp the yard.

SPEAKER_05 41:56

You know what I'm saying? And uh the it's like anyway.

SPEAKER_04 42:00

He was gay on 21 Jump Street. What happened?

SPEAKER_05 42:03

Oh, you weren't gay. Oh yeah, I remember that. Full circle to uh where the hilarious I shouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_02 42:17

Back to back. That's hilarious. I don't think you did that in your special. I did it. Oh, yeah, you did that. I did it.

SPEAKER_05 42:22

You said bad about it. He was like, bring this your mouth.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

It's funny. That's hilarious. I did I because it's just like, it's just a weird thing. Like I did this rant about how like, I mean, because you know, porn is gay. It's gay. You know what I mean? Like, I know people don't like hearing that because you don't realize it until later on. But if you think about it, you like, why is that like, I mean, it's just like, it's just, it's just like uh, it's it's it's it shouldn't have been introduced. I don't know, it's just it's gay, bruh. It's not, it's just not level 10 gay. But it do you watch, but another dude in there, like that's like you, it shouldn't be watching. Like if you if I was like, hey man, you want to watch me and my lady and the, you know, and you watching the corner, you're like, nah, it's gay, I don't want to watch it. I'm like, all right, well, I'm gonna just, you know, you like. I'm gonna film it this again. Yeah, really, yeah. It's like, it's like, yo, man. It's like I I remember someone like, I remember like someone breaking that down to me, and I'm like, I'm like, that is like that's like touch that, bro. And I'm like, that's kinda that's wild that I'm like, I even got caught up watching this, bro. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:25

Yeah, it's wild. Man messed up somebody's dick because I mean, well, there goes my plants with the dick. Throw his lotion across the room.

SPEAKER_04 43:31

Even touching your own dick. I mean, this that's a little gay. It's the least amount of game. It's the least amount. It's the least amount. That's one person, one person. But you you hold a nigga, technically pleasing a penis. But you ain't gonna be. I ain't never ejaculated on balls. Now that's really gay. That is hilarious. We love the gay community. Go for it. Obviously. I play the gay.

SPEAKER_03 44:12

I'm an ally. You seem to be working through all this stuff, man, and success is moving as we always talk about with the guests. Guests are killing it. As you're moving forward, what's something like what's part of something, you know, a part of your life that you feel like you haven't figured out yet?

SPEAKER_02 44:27

Oh, you know what? I think I figured it out. But I think like uh dating. You know, I think dating is kind of like what I've been trying to because I I I I dated when I was younger, like nine, nine years ago, and uh which was crazy. Was it nine?

SPEAKER_04 44:43

You ever had a girlfriend in nine years?

SPEAKER_02 44:45

Oh, eight years. I haven't had a girlfriend in eight years. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I've dated. You know, I've I've I've you know I've dated, but like I just was kind of like I done seen you with some things now.

SPEAKER_04 44:59

Let me tell you what let me tell you what happened. Let me tell you, you're gonna hop down the back end of your motorcycle.

SPEAKER_05 45:07

Motorcycle. You heard things. I've seen it, yeah. I've I've heard things.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

The things I I heard were black women. Oh, yeah, well, I mean, well, I mean, that's it's funny, man, because I dated a white woman and um that was like public. And then people like, that's what you like. It don't matter what I do after that. You know what I mean? It don't matter what I do. I mean, I've mostly dated black, but I mean for me, it's like I I used to be like Oh, you mean like they put you in that box? Yeah, yeah, which I'm okay with. I'm okay. Some people think I'm gay. You know what I mean? Like, I don't care what people think about me, bro. You know, if someone thinks up, if someone thinks I'm not funny, like, that's okay. I think I'm great. I think I'm funny. You know what I mean? So it's like I think that uh I used to have this idea, like I, you know, I look, man, I'm black. If I want to date uh uh anything, I want to date a black woman just because it's easier to, you don't gotta explain anything. You know what I mean? It's not, they don't have to, you don't have to teach me like, hey, this is what it's like. Right. We're in this position, blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, who like me? You know? I'm like, who like me? Right. Like the audience. I'm like, I'm like, who who likes me? Who do I get, who do I laugh with? So like um that's that's where I'm um, that's where I'm at. But I mean, I just I didn't, I wasn't trying to date anyone. I was just trying to, I was like, I don't want to, I don't want to have like I wanted to I just I just wasn't trying to do that. I just feel like I was traveling a lot. I just I I felt like it was easier to date, which is crazier. It was easier to date when you um when I wasn't on TV. It's easier to get women when you're on TV. It's easier to get women. But like finding someone, it's just it seems like it was easier when I didn't have any money. Of course. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 46:57

Yeah. So what did you figure out though? What did you figure out about because he was asking like, what do you feel like you didn't have figured out? What did you figure out about dating that you feel like you figured out now?

SPEAKER_02 47:07

Oh man, a lot of things. I mean, I just figured out myself, but I mean I I figured out um never put your never let your uh you know, career put your life on hold. You know what I mean? So it's like, I feel like women, they just women are like just are incredible organizers. They just like they're just they make everything grow. They make everything like, you know, you whatever like you know how they say you give you give a uh a house, they make it a home, kind of. That's a real thing. Like I my life is always better when I'm, you know, uh uh dating. But I didn't I've never had like um um I've never had like I guess like I don't know how it's like for y'all, but I've never had anyone I can look at a couple and be like, that's I know what an example of like a healthy couple is. I've never I I used to think my mom stole me. I didn't she never like dated anybody. So I'd never like seen, she never dated, she never dated anybody. You know, like you got some people that have like dudes in the in and out the house, but she never I never seen her with anybody. There's one dude named Mr. Frank when I was 12. That's the only person I know. But she's never like dated, she just always was focused on us. So like, and anyone around, there was no like healthy couples. So the only healthy couple was me. So in the time I dated a woman, I was uh it was just like it was like I couldn't, it's not someone I can necessarily like. I don't know, I didn't have and then I couldn't, I didn't necessarily have like uh uh uh someone to ask for advice about relationships. You know what I mean? So like my bro, my oldest brother, he didn't date women, you know. Justin, he was just kind of like, I mean, you know he was like in the same boat as me. Like we're not that far different in age, you know what I mean? And my old oldest brother, he gay. So it's like my you know, my sister, she was she disabled. My brother, you know, my mom is like I don't know. There was no representation that to find out. There was no representation no one could be like I never had like a um like uh like uh yeah something to model after? Something there's no no mentor. There was no mentor to be like, hey, when you get in this position, do this. This is how you're supposed to be, yeah, in a relationship. Yeah, what's something about love you wish you would have learned earlier then? Man, um man, okay. Well, I wish I wish I would have learned that it's weird, man. So you you you have people say like um you know you gotta get out your system. That's stupid. That's stupid. If you like women, you ain't gonna like stop liking women. You know what I mean? Never gonna lie. Like you ain't you ain't gonna if you go to a dietitian and you like, hey dietitian, I can't stop thinking about ice cream. All these different ice cream flavors keep sliding in my DMs, and then the dietitian's like, oh, you gotta, you gotta try it all. You gotta lick everything. Never go. And then it's and then you'll find one ice cream that you want for the rest of your life. And it's like, nah, bro, that just that makes it worse, if anything. Like you, you, you don't need to do all that. That's not healthy to go and like it's fun. It's not healthy though, but it's it's like a drug. You know what I mean? So it's like if you if if if you like a drug, you like weed, alcohol, hair, whatever it is, cocaine, you don't do a bunch of it.

SPEAKER_04 50:12

That's a fact. I I got a joke. I got a joke about how women are like men, we could be addicted to women the same way people are addicted to drugs and alcohol. Yeah. And it's hard for women to understand. They can't understand it.

SPEAKER_05 50:24

Don't try to explain.

SPEAKER_04 50:25

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:26

It definitely can be one of our vices. One of the um best things I I had ever seen, my boy was getting married, and we were traveling, and uh we were setting up like his thing or whatever, and we're just out at some brunch, and it was this older, older black man, and his his wife was uh gorgeous, and he was fly. Like you could just tell he just kept it together, watch was right, suit was fitted, he just you know gray everywhere, but he they had to be in there 60s, 70s, but they were they were active. So we see the wife walk in, and the waitress there was like gorgeous. We had been trying to flirt with her all night, she wouldn't give us nothing. Yeah, so the dude walks off. Uh the the the wife the we saw the we saw that the waitress was kind of flirting with the dude. Yeah. It was like, huh. We saw his wife go to the bathroom, and we saw her make a move. We was like, well, that's why now she's not talking to us. And so the wife comes back, so we asking the dude, we were like on our way out, we was like, hey man, what happened? Like how how did y'all how long y'all been married? Whatever they've been married, like 40 years. And then the wife comes back and she's like, So did she come? And we was like, wait, what? He was like, Did the girl come over here? And and we just kind of like got quiet because we didn't know I was here. He was like, Yeah, she came. And they had like their little laugh about it. And we was like, yo, how did y'all get this? My boy getting married, yada yada yada. And he said, one thing, the hunger never goes away. He said, it never leaves you. Yeah. He was like, if you are alpha and you always had that thing, it's gonna always be there. Yeah. He said, and then two, he's like, find somebody that knows you and understands you. And she was like, and then she spoke up and she was like, he's been charismatic when I met him. Women loved him when I met him, they love him now. As soon as she, as soon as I left, I knew she was gonna shoot. And we laugh about it and we have open conversations about it. We don't hide it from each other. That's a great place. And I and he was like, I he mine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:26

Yeah, some people are okay with that. You know what I mean? Like, I think you either find someone that's like okay with that, uh, or you just cheat. You know what I'm saying? That's it, bitch. That's it, baby. No, but I I don't I'm just playing. I'm just I'm joking, but I'm not.

SPEAKER_05 52:40

So so then uh So then in that in that world, how has being uh in physically good shape, you on stage, shirt off, you might satisfy a real problem for me. If you has it helped ticket sales, has it has it helped taking sales? Has it helped ticket sales? Be uh attractive on stage, shirt off, muscles, because if not, I'm finna go eat Chick-fil-A right after.

SPEAKER_04 53:12

Beautiful, yeah, fair.

SPEAKER_02 53:14

That helps ticket sales. True. Yeah, it helps a lot. You got a lot of fans that just like looking at them. Absolutely. So you you see you see that pay off. Yeah, I think there's a lot of I got I get yeah, I got a lot of gay fans. I got some, I mean, you know, I mean, sometimes they be DM me, bro, and I'll be like, I don't know why. I think some of them be like, oh, he probably. I'm like, he probably, he probably in the cloud. Come on, I heard you watch porn. Heard you ask the where's the Yeah, I think some people, I think some people um like me because they they're attracted to me. And I think some people uh I mean I yeah, I mean they're all attracting me in some way, either it's because I'm funny or because of my looks, you know. But um, yeah, I see that, but I I think mostly because I'm funny. You know, I don't think like I'm I'm the no Matt Rife dude. You know what I mean? What made you pick up the MMA? Oh man, you know what? I think I'm just like I'm not a tough guy. You know what I mean? Like I'm kind of a uh uh I'm just like a soft dude. You know what I mean? Like I I used to get punked at as a kid all the time. I think I just like got tired of that. And I know I'm athletic, I know I'm athletic, but that's that's the funniest thing, is like me knowing to fight people thinking I'm like, I don't know, like I'm just like I'm mean or something. But it's like I don't fight. Like I don't fight anybody, you know, but I think like I just wanted to I I did it as a workout, you know.

SPEAKER_05 54:37

Yeah, but you took it to another level because you fought professionally, you did uh you did like a uh some sparring, you did some tournaments, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:46

You know I did jujitsu tournaments, I did uh kickbox and Muay Thai MMA match. The only time I lost was MMA, and that's because it was a long story, but he won. But uh I I won all my kickbox and muay thai matches, every jiu-jitsu match I've ever done, I've I've won.

SPEAKER_04 55:01

So would you ever do like a celebrity match?

SPEAKER_02 55:04

Yeah, I would love to. Yeah, I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_04 55:05

Who would you want to fight?

SPEAKER_02 55:06

Um I want to box Sean Strickland.

SPEAKER_04 55:09

Sean Strickland.

SPEAKER_02 55:10

Yeah, he's a he's a MMA fighter. I already boxed him, I did it, but I would if I would if I had to pick a celebrity, it'd be him. Okay. For boxing. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't, I don't, it's funny, I don't really think about nobody, but I was like, yeah, I'll fight you, I'll find you stuck. Yeah, the way it rolled up.

SPEAKER_05 55:24

I said, Yeah, yeah, but the yeah, yeah, the yeah, yeah, yeah, is is I do this. Yeah, I did that. Yeah. But but I saw you smart with somebody outside of a club not too long ago. I was like, Oh, yeah, yeah. You posted a clip and it was like, it was like, I'm gonna take you down. He's like, bro, it's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

Yeah, this dude was talking trash. I mean, he was talking trash, bruh. And we were in the we were inside the uh the comedy club, and he said, I don't know how we got on MMA, but he was talking about like, have you ever you ever grappled with a wrestler? And I was like, Yeah, bruh. I said, You can't take me down. He goes, Oh, he started laughing. He's like, You don't even know, wait till tomorrow. I said, tomorrow? Let's go outside right now. Right. And he thought I was joking. And then I was like, let's go outside. So we went outside. I was like, try to take, he just, bruh, you're not taking me, you're not taking me down. I train with people that be like like pro like fighters that that have a hard time taking me down. You ain't gonna take me down. Like so, no, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:19

Yeah, it's so funny because I'm I'm actually a first degree black belt. And when I first saw you doing it, I was like, I think I might kick it because I was for real, in my sh in my hood, like growing up, I was known as the one that wrestled in and beat, like surprisingly, because people don't expect it because I'm so little.

SPEAKER_00 56:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:37

In college, when I went to Clark Elena, I wrestled everybody in the dorm. I only lost to one person. So when I first saw you do it, I was like, but then I continue to start seeing you beating people he'll beat me in his own. Because you you legit, bro. You legit, yeah. You legit with it. Yeah, absolutely. This is my last like real question is do you aspire to do TV and film still? And if so, like how are those opportunities? Are you getting auditions or are you submitting yourself? Are you creating something? Like, what's your path to TV and film if if you want to do it?

SPEAKER_02 57:12

Yeah, I've been creating uh things and uh and trying to work on some things, but it the thing with TV and film is I'm not that passionate about that. And then it's like there's it's like so I'm gonna go against people that that's what they do. You know what I mean? So like there's people that like love TV, that know film, they know the directors, they know all these actors, they know all these, you know what I mean, and then I'm just I just kinda I'm like this is fun, this is kind of cool, but it's not like a priority for me. And um I understand like you know, a smart movie, I just gotta fall in love with it. You know what I mean? I gotta fall in love with like auditioning, you know. Like I don't when I audition a lot of times, honestly, I'm just like, I gotta, you know what I mean? Like a lot of people don't even get auditions. I get a lot of I get auditions, and I'm a terrible actor because I ain't got none yet. I gotta be trash, man.

SPEAKER_05 58:07

You know what I mean? Or just people haven't seen it, bro, but they just gotta see you in a role. It wouldn't be very, it's not a hard fetch to put you in an actual role or something that you're fighting in and being uh hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 58:18

Hey, well, I mean, I don't know what's happening, man. But I I think I gotta I gotta fall in love with that. I think I gotta take it a little bit more seriously because like I'm saying before, it's like it's some people like it's it's like when you ever see someone that just kind of do stand-up and you'd be like, you ain't about to do that. Right. Like you're like, you're not about to do that. You just kind of do stand-up. Like we we I do stand-up, bro. Like I'm up all the time. Right. I'm always I mean, I try to, I mean, I I'm this is the least amount I've ever done stand-up right now, but I'm still doing it like, you know, twice uh uh during a weekday, and I do it on every weekend.

SPEAKER_05 58:49

So I I have I have I got two for sure. One is um the independent special. Yeah. Uh what were the hurdles that you saw going into it? Cause did Amazon do one or you just put you ended up putting it there?

SPEAKER_02 59:04

No, my first special I filmed with Comedy Dynamics, and um and we were trying to pitch it to a you know different people, and they all said no. And then um, except BET Plus, BET Plus was like, we're gonna, you know, uh we're gonna buy your special. And I was like, I didn't even know it was a BET Plus. I was like, I was like, thank you for doing that, because no one else wanted it.

SPEAKER_05 59:25

This is not this is not this is my name is Preacher or this is Get to Know Me.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

Get to Know Me in 2019. Got it. So BET Plus was the only person that was like our only only like group that was like, we want to give this person a chance, which I really appreciate it. So I was the first special on BET Plus. So um they did that, and then I think I was with them for like a couple years, and then it went to Amazon.

SPEAKER_01 59:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 59:45

So it did it went, it was on Amazon, and but when it went to Amazon, it relaunched. And then it went to like serious radio and it went to all these different things. And then my second one, I I I paid out of pocket, and it was just kind of like it was it was a special that I was trying to film years ago. I was like trying to film it, but my management team at the time were they would pushed it along, they were like, no, no, let's wait, let's wait. And I'm like, what are we waiting for? There's no point of us waiting, so I kind of just I was like, I'm doing it. Yeah, this is my name preacher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My name preacher. Yeah, and I did that, and I found that found the outfit like maybe an hour before we filmed. Like it was just like kind of thrown, you know what I mean? And um, you know, that's why the pants were super tight. I didn't I didn't pay attention.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:29

Those pants were tight. They were tight, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:30

I seen a comment where some dude was like, I can't even watch your special, man. Your pants too tight. I said, that's crazy. I mean he's you can't listen to it?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:38

Yeah, just zoom in a little bit cracking. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:41

So um, and then my last special, um, I kind of like um Which is my favorite my favorite out of the three. I appreciate that, man. Keep preacher weird. That was that made me feel good. Keep preacher weird. Yeah, keep preacher weird. I did that like fast. I did it like within a year. And um I I um you know I paid out of pocket too. That was like 80 grand. You know what I mean? Like I'm I'm not I'm not like trying to ask for any money from any of my fans. Like, my if you come see me live, that's how I make my money. If you come see me live, that's that's it. And then I'll give you something else. And I I try to pitch it to everyone else, and they were like, nah, but I don't really it's fine. Like I it's not like I would love to be on Netflix, HBO, Hulu, any of these networks, but I they don't for some reason I don't know who I if I upset someone or or they just don't like my style of comedy. I don't know what it is, but that's not my concern. My concern is like, all right, here's my product, you know, and let me present it to people that uh uh would like it. And now it's it's it's that's on YouTube. That's what that's doing good though.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:37

Because I look yeah the uh my name is Preacher, is that like eight, but this one's done that in like a month.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at that smile. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's doing good. I think it's better. I think it's I well I I didn't know if it was better. And then people that watch it, like I remember you you watched it, which I appreciate that. And he told me it was uh it was better. So I'm I'm and the way people are explaining why it's better, you know, it just it makes it makes sense. I'm just more comfortable. You know, I'm more comfortable. Like I think like I that's that is one of my thoughts too. Yeah, more I'm more comfortable in my not even just on stage, but on in my skin. You know, like I'm you know, I talk about like uh I I'm clean, right? But on that special, I talk about like sweet, I talk about sex, I talk about I talk about alcohol, you know what I mean? I talk about these things, but I just think it's palatable. Yeah. You know, like you know, I I think there's, you know, but yeah, I think this next special, my fourth one's gonna be mine even better.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:37

What do you think is the most challenging part of coming up with material for these specials? Uh you know what? I mean because I know I think you have more than one of them, have the challenges changed or um have they remained the same just within, for example, um as an actor or as actors, even though the projects are new, we still gotta do the same work. You know, and you still gotta do even with stand-up, Chappelle, Chris Rock, and Martin still gotta get in the clubs. You still gotta put it, you know what I mean? Even though they are there. So what maybe what are there different challenges or you feel that they're not?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:13

But I think that's part of the process is getting in the clubs, because there are some comedians that are like like theater acts, not excuse me, uh stadium acts, and they don't do clubs. You can tell. You're like, oh, you're not doing the club. You have to like do the club first, and there's like a process. So like I feel like for me, like, you know, like I just kind of I just think of an idea, you know what I mean? I I try to write uh every day. I try to write every day.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:39

Now do you do you do like the this comes up every now and again? Are you more like write it out on some some sign fill, word for word, or you just kind of jot the premise, or you how do you build your your I do that with certain bits.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:52

Certain bits I'll write all the way out. You know, and in some certain other ideas I'll just like do a couple sentences. But I make sure I do it every day. You know, and if I do that every day, I usually think of an hour within like three months, right? So if you if you write like if you do a if you think of a minute material every week, I mean, you know, that's that's a that's a that's a Yeah, no, 52 weeks in there.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:15

That was my uh my mentor's logic was one one minute a month. I mean one one minute a week. Yeah, yeah. Uh yeah. Uh the good day good. The move from LA. What what what what what prompted you, what made you okay with it?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:31

Oh, leaving LA? Yeah. Well, respectfully, LA is I mean I mean, after 2020, like I I remember you going, like, people would go and do a set on Jimmy Fallon and minimum 500,000 views. Minimum. That's how important TV was. And and after 2020, people couldn't, they didn't watch TV, they were just on their phones. So they were just looking at like TikTok and all these different forms. There's on Twitch and they was on whatever they but they were watching on their phones. So most people watch on their phones, they don't watch TV. If you talk to if you talk to like kids, they don't watch movies, they don't watch like TV shows, they're watching like influencers in YouTube. They're watching YouTube, you know what I mean? They're watching you, they're watching this. You know what I mean? They watch us just talk over, you know what I mean. So um for me, I was it was just like you don't need to be in, I haven't done an audition in person since 2019. So I'm like, why would I I I don't want to uh I don't really do LA things. I'm not like at the parties, I'm uh which I you know you should do then. I'm not like I don't hang out at clubs. I do my set, I go home. Yeah. I do my set, I go home. I do whatever, I go home, I go to the gym, I'm at the I mean I'm just doing the same thing. So I'm like, all these things I'm doing, I can be doing at uh, you know, at uh at at a place where, you know, um you know, because eighty percent of of America lives on the East Coast. Like eighty percent is just on the East. Yeah. So there's no one over here. There's no one over here, man. I mean, you got Cali, you got you got Las Vegas. Yeah, we spread out on the West Coast. Who's in Montana and Iowa? You know what I mean? So it's like, I mean, you know, so uh most of America lives on the East Coast. So um I just was like, I'm all I'm gone every single weekend. I'm lucky, I'm very blessed. I'm gone every weekend. So I just I'm moving to Dallas. So I moved to Dallas because I'm like, it's just direct flights. You know what I mean? Into my fly to LA, I'm adding two and a half hours. So like then it was just like boom, boom, boom. And then I saved zero there's zero state tax. I mean, I'm just saving so much of my money. So I was just like, there's no point. It was a straight business move. Bro, it was a business move. And then I was I and I did that. So what brought you back? Man, I don't like being around regular people.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:51

I don't like it.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:56

You know what I mean? Like it was cool. It was cool. Have you done it though? Like you done been around civilians. Yeah, you been around civilians for two weeks. Like, man, you ain't even motivated. Like, Texas would do that to you. I'm a kid. I kind of miss people like this. So what you got going on?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:15

You know what I mean? Yeah, get like that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:18

They talk about they talk about sports or things that like I'm like nothing that I've been like, I don't even want to talk about. I don't even I don't watch football, bro. Man, there's so much truth in that statement, bro. I was like, I need to be around like just creatives.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:31

You know what I mean? I got my crib in Florida, and like like a lady stopped in the middle of the street at Publix, the supermarket out there to talk to me. She's like, oh, I'm just it. And I had to realize, I'm like, I understand to her, I'm a celebrity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To her, I'm a celebrity. The rest of everybody else around don't know who the hell I am, but to her, I'm a celebrity. But it's like we talking, she almost got hit by a car, and I'm like, even if somebody told her to get out of the road, they was like, But you're not this is it. And it's just like, you know, I don't like small talk.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:02

100%. Because it's like when you you in LA, nobody cares about you, bro. Like nobody, you are small. You know what I mean? But like you leave and you get recognized way more when you just like, because people just be looking, they'd be like, wait a second, ain't you, ain't you, you know, so I don't like that either. Yeah. I do not like that. Yeah. I I mean I think it I I appreciate when people recognize me. Now I think it's I'm grateful, but you like you ever have someone recognize you and then like they like, oh, they kind of fan out, and then you stuck around. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? You like you had to wait to get on the plane next to you be like, you know, like it's just like I don't like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:39

Because it's love, but it can get weird. That's like when I started picking up like the uh I started doing crawl my god, but it was like I don't like I'm I'm out every weekend, and it's just like the people in become like almost it's not exhausting, but it's like I love y'all, but I also need the downtime to be creative for y'all. Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:58

Yeah, that is that is hilarious. It's a weird, you know. I like being around like people that just be like, I just be like creative. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:08

All right, man, we got a game on this show called Kill It or Let Live. Okay, I'm gonna throw out a topic. If you mess with it, you say let it live. If you don't mess with it, you say kill it. Okay. All right, kill it or let live. Hollering at gym oh my bad. Hollering at girls at the gym. Kill it or let live.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:26

Man, uh, see, let live, man. Like I think anytime. I think if you like somebody, man, shoot your shot. You'll know. I'm shooting my shot. I might never see you again. Yeah, exactly. I if I if I if I want to shoot my shot, I'm shooting my shot. You know, people like sometimes, sometimes, you know, women are like, you know, I don't want no one hitting on me at the gym. And it's like, cause you don't like them. That's all. You know what I mean? You don't like them. You if your crush hit on you at the gym, you ain't gonna be like, I'm at the gym. You don't mean come on, man. So I think it's yeah, if any opportunity.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:00

I feel you on that. Kill it or let live. You become the biggest comedian of all time. You're known as the biggest comedian that ever lived. But in order to accomplish this, you have to rub baby oil on Diddy and all of his prostitutes first.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:18

I mean, where am I rubbing it? That's a good question. That's a good question. If it's the belly, hey, bruh.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:25

You know what I'm saying? He liked it, he he wanted his whole body oiled up. So I have to touch. You gotta touch it. Oh, okay. Well then.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:33

No, no, I'm all good, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:35

Okay, all right. Some would choose different. I can't.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:38

Then I gotta go to therapy. You know what I mean? But at least you could afford it.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:45

Kill it or let live. Having an MMA fight between you and John Jones. Bruh, I met John Jones.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:51

He is the biggest human being. He is. There you go. Why would I I don't even, that's not even a benefit. You like I'm killing that. I'm not about to have a Well, hold on, hold on. How much, no, no, you're right. His headshake is crazy. I was gonna say, how much money, but like this dude don't knock people out, but he makes them bleed. Yeah, he hurts. You know what I mean? Like, I would try to, I would try to go, I would try to take him down so he could choke me out. Yeah. Like real fast. And be like, full machine and get paid. If we talk my money. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:17

That's a smart move, actually. I don't want him to elbow.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:19

You do not want them elbowed. I do not. I looked at him when I saw him. I was like, yeah, have you met him? Yeah, I met him at Long Beach Live Factory. But he's big. He's big. He's like 6'4, and he's solid. I shook his head and I was like, this is scary.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:32

Nice guy, though. Nice guy. Bro, the nicest. The nicest dude, man. He's, I know he got whatever issue, but he's the nicest, bro. He calm dude. Anyway.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:41

Kill it or let live. Making Simon Cow audition to be a judge on America's Got Talent. What do you?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:48

I mean, I would love to let live, man. What is he gonna do? He's gonna try to sing or something? Like he's gonna try to do some stand-up? I would love to see. But you said making them, man. I won't be like, hey, man. Like you got to have a lot of people. No, no, no. Just him doing it. Just him auditioning it.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:03

Okay. I got two more. Kill it or let live. Having sex with a white woman on Juneteenth. Bro, come on. With the look? The look that BT hates.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:15

I mean, which one? What are you talking about? I mean, it's you know what I mean? Because if I'm not attracted to, I could use as an excuse. Okay. And be like, hey, I'm sorry. It's June. Listen, man. What if they we ain't free for what? No.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:33

All right, last one. Kill it or let live. Hooking up with female comedians. Oh, that left.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:42

That left cable. That left cable. I would never do that. Couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:50

I think he does. I think he can't act. Nah, I can't do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:53

That's not my thing. I wouldn't. You don't you don't take a crap where you eat. Yeah, there it is. There you go. I love that conversation. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:01

I switched it. I switched it, brother.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:04

Oh, you switched it. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:05

I used to I used to do uh I used to do top fives. Uh I'm switching this to keep three, cut five. So I'm gonna list off a bunch of uh physical comics, and you get to keep one. Oh, come on. You only get to keep three. But you gotta cut five. I gotta keep three cut five. But it's blind, because I ain't gonna tell you. I'm gonna just say that yeah, I'm gonna just say the name. You you keeping it or you cutting. Let's get it. All right. Number one. Kevin Hart.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:35

Well, hold on, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:37

No, we jump right into the.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:38

Oh, hold on. Because this matters. Are we, because you can't, you, when you say Kevin Hart and you say LeBron James, are you saying Miami Kevin Hart? At his prime. At his best. Okay. Yeah, we keep it kept.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:54

Okay, so and mind you, I'm talking specifically their physical um the prime. I'll be going physical. Okay, we keep it kept. Keep it kept. 100%. All right, Kevin's in. Steve Martin.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:04

Okay, yeah, cut that man.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:06

All right. Buy Steve Martin. You and your arrow, bye. All right. You and your arrow.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:10

Martin Lawrence. Yeah, I mean, honestly, cut that man too. Martin's out physical. Because you ain't about to get me. You're gonna be you ain't gonna. You don't know who I'm saving.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:19

Okay, I have an idea.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:20

All right, all right, gotcha. Chris Farley. Dang it. All right, so I'm cutting how many? You cutting five. I'm cutting five and I'm keeping three. Yeah. Um, man. Um yeah, cut him. All right, bye, Chris Farley.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:36

Jim Carrey. Yeah, we keep it, Jim. We keep it. Hell yeah. We keep it, bro. Give it Jim Carrey. Uh Marlon Wayans.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:47

I was trying to get a scary movie seven though.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:51

Bro, Marlon, like, I this man don't, he got all kinds of primes. Yeah. Bro, don't even got all kinds of primes, bro. He does. The longevity is a man. Man, we keeping um, we keeping how, okay, so I'm gonna get one more keep.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:06

Yeah. Well, he kept, didn't he? You thought it was Kevin. He kept Kevin. And Jim Carrey. And he kept Jim Carrey. He didn't keep my head.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:13

Why are you saving these at the end? Because you never know.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:17

Justin Fades.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:19

And we're talking about physical comedians. Physical, we're talking specifically, they're like just physical comedians. Bro, I can't even. I'm not talking about the material. I'm talking about just the screw.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:32

Come on. That's one of the best physical performances I've ever seen. That's a fact. Right? Okay. I know it's not on there. Kale on. That's a fact. Man, that was funny. Okay. Bruh. Okay, I got Jim Carrey. And if we if we keep in, if it's only physical. Is it physical only? And we're not talking about like just funny.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:51

No, no, I'm not talking about funny. I'm talking, I mean, I'm not going to be able to do that. Okay, well, Kevin Hart gotta go. Well, no, I'm talking funny also. I'm talking, these are comics that are using their physical humor to kill on the funny shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:03

So Kevin Hart to me is like an all-time great comedian. Okay. And he uses like storytelling and his physicality. Yes, yes, yes. But like Jim Carrey, he uses physicality at a di at a different level than Kevin Hart. Say what Marlon went. So I'm a trade. Okay, okay. All right, cool. So I'm gonna trade Marlon and Kevin.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:24

So wait, so I got Marlon in King. So we got we got Marlon and Jim Carrey.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:28

And I used to call Marlon the black Jim Carrey. Yeah, you get it. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:32

Yeah. All right, cool. You can't go back no more. Tommy Davidson. Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:44

Man, you say Jamie Foxx next. Tommy Davis.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:49

Um would say Tommy the only person that got he don't if you wait a minute, he the only one that's technically has gotten Jim Carrey in a scene with Ace Ventura too. And Martin, that the first episode of Hollywood when they're in that studio. He's like that Bardell Hill. But anyways, that's how that's how strong. But anyway, this is your shit. This is your shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:12

I I I'm nah, we cut.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:16

Alright. So we did, we cut Kevin Hart, we cut. We got two more, right? No, we got one more. Oh, we got one more. Yeah. There's only one left. Okay. I can make it too. Wait, you got Jim and Marlin, right? Yeah, yeah. You want me to make it too? I'll make it two. Okay, go ahead. All right. Uh Kevin Hart, we cutting. Steve Martin, we cutting. We cutting Martin Lawrence. We cutting Chris Farley. We keeping Jim Carrey. We keep him Marlin, right? Yeah. We cutting Tommy Davis.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:46

It's crazy we cutting Martin Lawrence because if you look at his. I'm about to say Martin with Martin. I know, I know, I know. I just crazy. This is difficult. I did it! I know, man. I don't like this game. Because all his punchlines end with a physicality. So it's like.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:01

I'm about to say, that's how he beat Tommy Davidson that second episode, the part two, when he choked him out on the late night touch.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:07

Yeah, so alright, I'm gonna just go with Martin. I'm gonna go with Martin, Jim Carrey, uh, Marlin. That's solid, man. All right, the next one is preacher lobster. Baby as you should be.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:29

I was gonna add Jamie Fox in the level.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:31

There's a level of funny. But physicality.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:34

I'm physical. Yeah, man. I didn't have I done had a Jamie Fox there, but I was like, I could have had another one. But preacher was the last one. Oh man, yeah. You cut yourself, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:43

But real talk, I can't put myself over any of them people. You know what I mean? Like that's crazy. So we got Martin, Martin, hey man, Martin, Jimmy. Marlon ain't hard, man. I got Marlon, Jimmy, that would have that would have been mine, too.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:53

It's black.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:55

Even though I did kind of cheat. Yeah, you did, you didn't look cheaty cheating. But only because I didn't, I I I wouldn't like, I would put uh Kevin Hart uh, you know, up there when it when it comes to pure standing. Yeah, he has everything else. Like seriously funny is one of the greatest specials ever like ever. Seriously funny. Like that run of like grown little man, seriously funny, laugh my pain. And what now? I love what now guy. Yeah, no, man. You like what now more than I love what now a lot more. What now is fire on these bitches? More than all right, no, but I love what now. Oh, you're saying, okay, cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:26

I think it's what now because what now is the one that was in the theaters. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:30

Laugh at my pain, wasn't it? No, no, no. Laugh my pain.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:35

Yeah, that was the big one with all the pipe, with all the drop fire on these bitches.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:40

That's irresponsible. That's massive. No, that's what now. No, what now is the one where he had the toilet behind him. He had the toilet behind him? He had like a He had like a screen.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:50

What now was the one he did in the in the It was in theaters. It was in theaters.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:53

I mean, in the What Now was in theaters. Yes. That's the one with the Hollyberry thing at the beginning. Drop fire on these bitches. That's laughing.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:59

No, no, you're mixing that with irresponsible tour. No, no. No, irresponsible tour is the one he did the round. Bro, with the drop fire on them, that was I'm trying to do. Madison Square Garden. Drop fire was Madison Square Garden. What now? Wasn't what now when he did the Philadelphia? Which Dragon Heart special pyrotechnics. That was Madison Square Garden. Bro, it wasn't Madison. It wasn't an arena, that's for sure. It was.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:25

So let me explain.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:27

Let me explain.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:28

Let me explain was filmed at Madison Square Garden in 2013. Yeah, because I remember we all went to the movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:33

What do you think about Let Me Explain?

SPEAKER_05 1:20:34

I love Let Me Explain. Yeah, let me explain is the.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:36

You don't even know your favorite.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:39

Most good, most comics get two amazing specials. Yeah. Yeah. The fact that Kevin gets any negative comments and he has arguably four. And that's without me counting the the recent one. The um the Peacock one. I like that one. I like the Peacock one.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:58

That's the slept on. That's his best one. The most underrated one.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:01

Yeah, I keep hearing that. I didn't watch it. Oh no, that's great. I kept trying to download Peacock and it wouldn't let me. Yeah, Peacock was on the book. No, that's the that's his best one. I keep hearing it.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:09

That was right after the Will Smith uh.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:13

That's it, man. Um listen. If you could have it any way you want it to, what does it look like for you to be killing it career right career-wise? Like everything's lined up, things are movies, TV, specials. Talk to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:27

I mean, I'll tell you what, the finish line is always moving. So I have like, you know, some goals, and then it happens, and I'll just it always it always changes, you know. I mean, I never thought I'd be on tour with my family. So I mean, that that was pretty cool. I just want to keep making music, man. I want to keep putting out, you know, uh great products. I want to keep being funny. I wanna, you know, I just wanna uh keep making people laugh. And I mean that just you know, I just want to keep making, I know it sounds so corny, but I just want to keep making people happy. And you can't laugh without smiling. So I just want to keep doing that.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:58

Hey man, well let people know where they can find you at your socials, what they should be checking out for.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:02

All right, preaching laws on all the socials. Come find me on tour. When is this coming out?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:08

Yeah, we got it.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:10

Yeah, whatever we feel like. Oh man, who's gonna get us the most views?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:17

Like, oh yo, yo, YouTube, man, check out his special. Yeah, check out my special, man, on YouTube. I got two specials on YouTube. Check out my other one. It's it's everywhere. Uh, you know, get to know me. But yeah, so um, yeah, you go yeah, check me out.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:30

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SPEAKER_05 1:22:40

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SPEAKER_00 1:22:55

Camera turn off.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:58

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