Killin It
Comedians London Brown, Justin Hires, & BT Kingsley converse with top people in entertainment and culture that are killing it in their life and career.
Killin It
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Comedian, Navv Greene, discuss filming and touring with T.I., Druski, and 85 South Show, his successful sports podcast 'Broken Play', and more.
Hosted by @RealLondonBrown, @JustinHires, @BTKingsley
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Executive Produced by London Brown, Justin Hires, BT Kingsley
Engineer: Aaron Brungardt
The Drewski thing, he is a phenomenon. It feels like he understands the lens of having dope people around him to increase what he's trying to do.
SPEAKER_01He won on one, man. He ain't no hater, man. He ain't in competition with other people. He not in competition with other people. The people he be in competition with don't even do comedy. We might do something, and I see the views like from the episode. I'm like, look, this is what we did. He was like, yeah, we gotta get like uh look at Mr. Beast. He's killing. Mr. Beast? That's a game show. But it's just like he sees the bigger picture where it's like, bro, you want to entertain all people, not just limited to blacks, not just limited to whites, not just limited to our age, you know, group and stuff like that. So it's like he be understanding the science to it where it's like just hearing him talk about it, like I was like, oh, okay. He in a he in a different ballpark where he see it.
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SPEAKER_01Ran into Lance yesterday. He had said Tony had just did it too.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, yeah. We uh I said, boy, them boys are working. Man, we trying to get we trying to get it done, bro. We we yeah, we yeah, we yeah, yeah, you know you 85 or the the the blueprint, bro. Blueprint. Yeah. Hey I give it away. We say it on here all the time. It was nothing on this coast. Yeah. Ain't nothing over here. It was like, nigga, anything you had going on, you had to get up. You gotta go do more than the culture, you gotta go do 85, you gotta go do button, or you gotta go do Breakfast Club or Hot Nine Center. It was nothing over here. I guess you could do big boy, but that feel like hard as f. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01It was like the now it's a little you gotta have some, like it's just so much where it's like it don't be organic sometimes. You could tell they plugging something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and like that's it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but they just like the freeze the free flowing conversation. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like a natural conversation. Like, if I ain't plugging this, I'm not finna come do your show. Right. Right. So it's like Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna take my jacket off, but I'm still working.
SPEAKER_01It feels good, no?
SPEAKER_02Oh man. All right. You wanna kick it off or you wanna make it? Uh you can do it. You you you you you always had some I got some credits. Hey man, we back, man, for another phenomenal episode. I tell you, that's my favorite word. Big phenomenal, baby. That's the only big phenomenal. That's what I like. Um, man, one of the funniest comedians. Um, met this dude when he was out here in in LA, you know what I'm saying, on the grind. Uh then he moved, went to Atlanta, and just been going up and up and up, man. Um, man, he got the Broken Play Show, you know what I'm saying? Y'all don't call it a podcast, do you? You just call it Broken Play. I don't think we know what it is yet. Right, right, right. It's supposed to be a podcast. You got Broken Play Show, okay. You seen them on Could've Been Love. You seen him in on the show Fight Night on Peacock, Departments, alright, with uh T.I., well, T.I. what produced it and directed it. Yeah. Um in Coming to America, the sequel, uh, this is the one and only Nav Green there with the back. Appreciate you. What's your name again, bro? I be forgetting, man. Justin Hyatt. Hey, look what I'm doing, man. This is my nav green, man. Y'all don't give a f about me. Y'all ain't click on this for me. Y'all clicked on this to see Nav Green. Man, how you been doing? You out here for the uh for the festival?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, for the festival, uh, 85 South, they put on uh had uh Netflix as a joke, had us feature on that, so we did that and just, you know, networking, going around, talking, fake smiling, shaking hands, kissing babies. Yeah, all that type of stuff.
SPEAKER_02That's funny. You know it's so funny. What one of the questions I was gonna have this later on in the uh in the conversation, but do you personally do you care about crossing over? Or yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, I I think in in the beginning.
SPEAKER_02Oh you can just bring it a little more closer.
SPEAKER_01I think in the beginning, like, you know, like everybody wants that mainstream success. And don't get me wrong, you know, that's where the money at. Right. But then it's like I be seeing people lose that then they don't have that core fan base that they that started with anyway. And then we seeing now people is getting real dollars with their core fan base. So it's like where it done changed the trajectory. Well, crossing over is like, you might you saying you want to cross over, you might not even get accepted over there. So now you done did all that, now you you stuck in the middle. Nobody wants you. Right, right, right, right. The people you started with, and the people you trying to cross over to you. You love us. We don't like it that much.
SPEAKER_02Hey, that's some that's some real coming from somebody that was on network TV for six years straight, and it's like the show over, and it's like, well, where your fan base at though? It's like they was in love with the show. Right. They wasn't in love with Justin Hires. So it's like, oh well, now I gotta go to the I gotta go to the streets, the internet. I gotta go to the streets and start building me. Show them me and start building up that audience. So what you said is uh is a thousand thousand percent correct.
SPEAKER_00Now, uh uh uh shout out our brother Lundy Brown, man. He's uh he had to catch a flight out because uh has a premiere and the show going on, so uh make sure y'all tune into the new season. Shout out Ray. Um but he would ask a question like this because he likes to start within the journey. Uh where are you from? Are you from you're from Atlanta? I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, yeah. Okay, okay. Because that's rare, because there's a a lot of people that live in Atlanta that's not from there. But you're born and raised. Yes. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Which zone? Uh well, it ain't no zone.
SPEAKER_01It was College Park. Okay. Okay, College Park. Okay. That's how we be testing. Then move to uh East Atlanta. I uh finished high school there. I started at North Klando on the south side.
SPEAKER_00Okay, gotcha. So, so being from Atlanta and being in the scene in Atlanta, how is the perspective for you? Because London always speaks to this of like, you know, watching people come here for their dreams, you've watched people pour into your city to chase something, but you were here uh tr uh trying to achieve something and and doing very well at it. How is a perspective for you seeing the people come in versus like how you're having to move through throughout the business being in this home?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think it helped, if that makes sense. And I'm not just saying it because I think in the beginning, Atlanta, like, people wasn't looking at Atlanta for like uh entertainment at a certain point of time. It was like you had the sprinkles here and there with rap, comedy, acting, all that type of stuff. But then the more people that came and started building the whole entertainment scene. So I think it worked hand in hand. So with the rap music and stand-up comedy, we got people from all over coming, and they they saying they based out of Atlanta. So it only helped in the city. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's like now they getting the looks here, people coming here for certain things. Like I say, you got people like uh in podcasts like Morton Culture, 85 South, people come and do those podcasts, and you seeing that type of stuff, so it's like it only helps the city. So it's like I'd be like, damn, they ain't from Atlanta. But look, they based here.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's interesting because I think, I think I'm confident enough to say this. There's a lot of cities with amazing comedy and with a great scene, but they're not um, it's not industry uh standard. Does that make sense? Chicago. Beautiful scene, yeah, for sure. Amazing comic. I get exactly what you're saying now. DC. But when they say, hey, where are you going to start making shit happen? It's LA, New York, and now Atlanta. So that nobody says I'm going to Chicago to pursue comedy. They say I'm going to Atlanta, especially if you us. Yeah. You know what I mean? So did you feel that shift?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's what I say. Like when we just said it, I think it all just started organically happening when people come and start, like it just started, the tri trajectory changed. And it came out of nowhere, which was good. I don't know if it was like round that before pandemic started or right during pandemic, but right after, it's like shit.
SPEAKER_02So piggybacking off of that, though, you moved to LA. What I'm assuming you moved to LA. Well, shit, I ain't assuming. Tell me why you moved to LA and then why you decided to move back to Atlanta.
SPEAKER_01So with uh LA, man, growing up, uh, watching uh comedy, I was a big fan of Chris Tucker, bro. So, you know, Chris Tucker, Atlanta. He moved to LA. You know what I'm saying? He did all the stuff. So you seeing that, you hearing that story, you like, oh, that's what you gotta do. My whole time in high school, I'm like, that's what you gotta do. You gotta go to LA. Like, why why play around? This what this what you know your life changed. But then it's like everybody's story and journey is not the same. And that's what you ain't I didn't realize. I'm I came out here. You think you just gonna get on stage, somebody see you and be like, man, I gotta put you in a movie. Right, right, right, right. Man, that don't happen. Like, like in your head. I don't know, like sometimes like we don't for we like we it's like it's a Cinderella story. Like some stories are one-on-one. And then you you feel like that happened for Chris Tucker, but he put the work in. That's facts. He did so much stuff before you saw Friday. And that's what I'm just thinking. He went out there and blew up. So I'm like, oh, that's what I'm doing. Get out here. Oh, you ain't got no credits? You can't get on stage. But I'm hilarious. Yeah, yeah. Uh I signed up. Oh, yeah, we saw uh such and such came in. Oh, oh, so you don't just go up?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Danny Wayne just walked in. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Hey, I paid. Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you. Enjoy the show. I I thought I could do the show if I paid. All that type of stuff. I'm like, oh man, it's about like the networking, like just finding out that type of stuff when you just young and like, and then just the cost of living out here.
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SPEAKER_01Outrageous. Man, you gotta save up money to be a roommate to a roommate.
SPEAKER_02Gonna be three of y'all living in the room, it's never gonna be three of y'all.
SPEAKER_01I got married to liberal.
SPEAKER_02I got married just so I can have somebody help me pay bills.
SPEAKER_01Well, hey, sometimes you can put up with that. Hey, but I put up with that bullshit. You ain't doing nothing wrong. Somebody check out track. You couldn't worry about this shit. Be straight on the first though. You got that money, right? Yeah, so it was like, and then that um I had a uh child on the way. So I'm like, man. So, but I think all that like just happening, it benefited me though. Going back to like being around um my roots, and when I say my roots, like finding myself, I didn't I ain't had nothing to talk about. I just thought being funny, like I ain't had no story, I ain't have no really no, to be honest with you, no purpose. I just knew I was funny and I just wanted to make it. Wow. And what is making it? You know what I'm saying? It's like you I felt like, let me get in a movie, let me do a TV, then what that would have You still don't have no substance. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00If that made sense. That's so funny, man. You have a uh I have it, the way I read it down in my notes was uh voice 3X. And the reason I say that is because you you're you're in rarefied air with this. You have three voices that are very specific and unique. Number one, your comedic voice. The the way that you understand the world and the way that you see the world is very unique within its perspective. Number two, your actual vocal tone. It feels it's it's like you know how some like like if we were talking MCs, right? There's some MCs that just are you you like Buster Ronald's had the perfect voice for rapping or like like like ludicrous, it's like certain people have the perfect vocal pitch prior. Like uh Tucker. Cat. It's like the you have a very specific, unique tone of voice. And three, your your actual voice when it comes to like couch, tone, perspective, where it's like, this ain't me stand-up. It's still my comedic sensibilities, but I can convey something to you that feels a very specific way, whether it be we talking sports. Uh let me tell it, every clip of you that goes crazy is because of that voice. It's because of, oh no, I know and understand how to convey something very specific. It feels warm. You feel like you live in some random big city, you go into the south to see your family. This is your favorite cousin. You know at this house the food's gonna be seasoned, right? Like you you feel and sound like that. How one, did you know? Two, if you do know, how are you using the instrument to like effectively move through through this industry?
SPEAKER_01Man, to be honest with you, I think like it started becoming, okay, say for instance, like you can read certain stuff on camera. And certain times you you want to say the right thing, want to be politically correct, and all that, all that's good, bro. But then at the end of the day, it's like that ain't me. Right. Like, and sometimes it's like, you know, another thing I be noticing? A lot of people watching. And when I say a lot of people watching, if I give like a an answer that I might feel is right, okay, that's cool. That you might be talking to somebody that that could convey to. But if like, if I'm talking from right here, somebody watching, like, man, I'm going through that. So it's like, do we want to like just say it or do we want to help a certain group, like going back to a certain group of people? Like, hey, I I know him. I I you know what I mean, I fuck with what he's saying. And with that being said, it's like, if I say something crazy in three years, they'll be like, nah, he probably just had a bad day. I really know him. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? Like, I done, you know, followed his journey where I know certain stuff and like what he done been through or why he might be feeling like that at the time. If that makes sense.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he told you back then he didn't play about this situation at that time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so it's like with certain things of that nature, I just start, I wanted to be like, and then my my mom and dad might see clips. They were like, you don't, you don't feel like that. Why you talking like that? You know, like with aunties and stuff like that. Like just family period. Then when you start having kids, like don't get me wrong, I don't want my kids watching all my my clips while I'm just testing and talking. I I got a different side, like damn, dad was talking about E Nad. Like, you know what I'm saying? I don't want no clips just to be out neither, but it's like certain stuff when I'm saying some good stuff too. I wanna I wanna, you know what I mean? Yeah, wanna scale the way up. The good and the bad. Like I want to have a message too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I do think that's something. If that makes sense. No, absolutely. I think that's something that's dope about you, is you very authentic and you just you go speak your mind and you're not worrying about what the popular opinion is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I I think that's fire. I I wanted to ask you about when you started your stand-up journey. Did you start in Atlanta or did you start when you moved out here to LA?
SPEAKER_01The first time I got on stage was uh in Atlanta. Um man, it was an open mic. My buddy was like, man, they doing uh an open mic. It was at a club and it wasn't really an open mic. It was a nigga trying to make some money, he seen his comedy night. Go up there. But I just went up there and I'm just talking, and it went good though. So I was like, damn. But I had did uh MTV your mama when I was in high school. Okay. So with doing that, it's like me still being naive. I'm thinking somebody was gonna watch that and like, hey, we're gonna put you in a movie. Right. So I'm sitting there waiting, like, man, none of this happened. Waiting for the phone to ring.
SPEAKER_02You looking at the episode, looking at the phone at the same time. Any second day.
SPEAKER_01Any given moment. Nigga called me into here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Brandon Lewis.
SPEAKER_01Right, Brandon Lewis did your mama called it. Carlos was on there, uh, Yohan say, like, it was a lot of us on there. So it's like, I kind of knew people like uh from uh MTV Your Mama, but then it was like stand up, I didn't go straight into it. So like after high school, I tried it. Then I was like, man, I'm gonna do this. So then I'm I'm gonna get a composition book, writing, writing out of all type of jokes. Cause now I'm just trying to be funny. Right. But it's like when you tell something that's personable, then you can start building on a joke, if that makes sense. You know, like how we come up with something. You know, when like you telling a joke and telling a story and you punching it up. You telling that story, punching it up, you can keep making that funny. As a joke, it's only so long where the joke would be like, okay, I'm tired of telling this joke. Yeah, it's a joke. But it's like, that's when I start realizing and understanding comedy, and it's like, okay, I like this.
SPEAKER_00What's your favorite room in Atlanta to craft in? Because I got I got my I got my favorite. I love cats. Oh man, cats let you. And you know cats over with now. I hate everybody. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I never got cats. I went there one time.
SPEAKER_00Oh my goodness. But I never went, I didn't go up there. Yeah, cats cool, they'll let you cook. Yeah, I I I started in um, I didn't start in spoken rooms, but I craft in spoken words rooms. Like whereas where they where they're kind of handling. They got a feel though. Yeah, you can tell like that.
SPEAKER_01Even if it's not a spoken word, not you can be like, oh, they do spoken words.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you you can you can feel it. Just it's just a warm, they're listening. The people that are in this space are listening for the words that you were saying. They're not they're not just gonna laugh just for, they're not just saying, ha ha ha ha ha ha, they're not in that rhythm.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's like when you go on stage, you can just tell, okay, they're listening. They will laugh, but you have to make them laugh. Right. So it's like, and they not you know how some people be like, this is an easy room. Yeah, it's an easy room once you, once you, you know what I mean, attack them and make them start laughing, but they ain't just finna giggle. No. You ain't finna say, hey, yeah, yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02So that's your favorite spot, though, Castle?
SPEAKER_01Nah, Castle wasn't mine. Uh I think I like those rooms, and I'ma say like, uh like that Kelly K. Doug was hosting. Okay. Like it might be a room where it's not even for comedy yet. Yeah. It's like you just could go up there, you trying to get their attention. It's like they don't give a damn who on stage. And it's like those type of rooms, it was like I was able to get up in those rooms, if that makes sense. So it's like, so after that, it's like it started becoming my favorite type of rooms. Because like, you gonna have to work, but damn, at least I was able to get time. In them type of rooms, you ain't gotta worry about no light. They let you know you want to stay up there, longer you don't want to kill yourself.
SPEAKER_02Your wings ain't ready anyway, nigga. Y'all been asking how can y'all support killing it? Well, we got an answer for you.
SPEAKER_03We got one.
SPEAKER_02Cash app.
SPEAKER_03Boom.
SPEAKER_02We are independently produced right now, and we're paying for this to give y'all a great show every week. Y'all be asking about a Patreon.
SPEAKER_00You don't even have to this ain't even multiple.
SPEAKER_02Just go and put something in there right now. You should look at us like a collection plate at church. We digitally passing right now.
SPEAKER_00And with your help.
SPEAKER_02And with your help, you can feed three Negroes. It's right there on the screen. You see? Cash app killing it potty. I just gotta give K Dub his flowers real quick because man, I remember being, I was doing MacGyver. I had just got to Atlanta, the film MacGyver, and I went to like some little hole in the wall spot. I bombed. Uh I mean, I ain't went up in a while, but whatever. K Dub went up, and I'm talking about just destroying that's what he do, bro.
SPEAKER_01Easily. That's what he do, bro.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_01And I was like, God damn, this nigga, he's a beast. He's he's a real he's the truth. And just when I say it's like certain people have a science to certain type of comedy skills. Like, when you when we've been doing stand-up, like all of us have different, like, you know what I mean, mechanisms where we attack. But certain people have that where you see them go flip a room, you like, okay, that's a different type of muscle. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And that's also how good I knew T.I. was in the confidence of TI to go up after K-Dub. Yeah. So when people be talking about Tip, it's like, nigga, he's going up after K-Dub. Nigga, that ain't no easy cake walk to go to go up after, bruh. And just to feel like I want to go up after K-Dub.
SPEAKER_01Like the nigga. Straight up. Hey, go ahead.
SPEAKER_00The tip hate was always a little weird for me because I'm a believer that comedy will take care of itself. And you can't be in the business and not love it. And Tip loved stand-up. Before he had ever got on stage, he was surrounded by stand-up. He was always at the stand-up shows. And then once he started doing it, I would get called. He'd be in LA. I'd get random calls. It's 1150. He was like, hey man, it wouldn't be Tip. It'd be Ronnie would call me or somebody, hey man, any spots going on? I'm like, nah, that I know. Yeah, Tip trying to go up. I was like, nigga, now? But he was he was like that. He was like a like an excited comedian. I said, oh, that nigga's a comic comedy.
SPEAKER_02I knew he was serious when I seen him at the dime. If y'all don't live in LA, the dime is a little hole in the wall bar. It's smallish. It's smaller than this fucking room, probably. Or damn near the same thing. Yeah, yeah, bye-bye. And and yeah, he was performing in there. How did y'all connect? The um the get a part of the ha ha mafia and all of that.
SPEAKER_01Man, like you said, like he was always around comedy. And um I think this is the first uh like he would always come to shows and stuff like that. I never thought he was, you know, interested in doing stand-up. Like, because he always just used to come around comedy. But naturally off stage, he just was always funny anyway. He talked shit anyway. So it's like, so once he started uh saying he was gonna do comedy, I was like, oh, that's dope, that's dope. Because like, you know what I'm saying? No matter what you think, like, you could be around him all day, but it's like, nigga, this T.I.
SPEAKER_04That is definitely T-I.
SPEAKER_01Like, that's when sometimes I be tripping. I'm like, nigga, this the rapper T.I. nigga grew up reciting word for word.
SPEAKER_02How you didn't get blocked and I got blocked? I need to block me. Nigga blocked me. You know the truth. You know the block.
SPEAKER_01No, he be getting new phones like a motherfucker for you, bro. Ain't gonna lie to you. But so when we were like, he was coming around saying that, but Clay, rest in peace, Clay, um, you know, was Tip manager, was uh little Duval manager, Clay like put a lot of people in position, and you know, like put everybody in the same place, and he might just start like networking you, networking with you through someone else. So when he started doing that with Tip, he was like, Tip wanna do, you know, do some comedy. Now, I knew Tip was serious when Clay was like, you gotta think, Clay get a percentage of comedy and rap. Clay have a good day when Tip go do rap. Yeah. Comedy and then Tip was loving it. Yeah. So and Tip turned it down. I mean, there's no lie, we on set of departments. I think they was calling Tip the I don't wanna, it was over a hundred thousand. I think it was, I don't know how much. Yeah. But Tip like, nah, I think I'm gonna keep the comedy date. And then Clay face just like and in my head, I'm like, damn, man, you can pay him a lot. But it was like, I said, that's when, but it made me respect. I'm like, it ain't about a check with him, because he got money, he really loved it, standup. Yeah, he no, he loved it, but I don't know if I love it that much. I said that maybe because I'm in it, man. And I see, but a hundred thousand, right? I could have took out the next six months. I could have done covered it then. And look, we were finna do a weekend. This was one show. Oh, but goodbye. Nah, I don't feel like jumping around. I'm gonna work out this new material.
SPEAKER_02I'm like, we gotta remember this nigga rich already. Rich already. So a hundred thousand dollars like, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, nigga, they gonna rap your songs fucking. These jokes. Boy, you gotta work this shit, man. Yeah. But nah, that man, that one I was like, oh, he loved this shit.
SPEAKER_00How how was how was that uh touring when you when you guys was out and um and and being able to do those dates being exposed to that that different crowd?
SPEAKER_01Bro, I'm gonna tell you this. Like uh sometimes like when you tour with different people, like sometimes you might run into the same type of crowd. When we was touring with Tip, I think a lot of that, a lot of those crowds were people first time coming to watch comedy. And the reason why I say that, because sometimes they are a fan of T.I. That's it. So it was like they didn't care whether he was on the stage doing a magic trick or or whatever. Right. They want to see uh a person that they have been a fan of. So now we got a whole stand-up show for him. You got a host, you got two people featured, and then you see T.I. Then you like, oh, this was a good ass show. Yeah, I had a good time. I had a good time. Stand-up. It was a stand-up show. But then it was like touring with him, like we seeing people, like it might be motherfuckers who never really sat down at a stand-up, because you could tell how they sit, they don't really know how they slouched down, they're sitting away. Like he bring out different crowds. You got your, you know what I mean, exquisite people, then you got your dope boys and they're like scribbles, it's everybody.
SPEAKER_00A bunch of famous people, too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so it's famous people coming out, so it's like it just always was different crowds, and it was love, like city to city.
SPEAKER_00Well, my tip story is so crazy. He came and did Chaka Sundays, and you know, TI's friends are very famous people. Yeah. I walk into Chaka Sundays, we get them every now and then. It ain't never looked like this before. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. I walk past a little booth that they got downstairs, and Usher sitting in the booth. I was like, all right, I'm chilling. You know, I don't want to be that day. I was like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. No support. Seduction, nigga. Situ with sexy while you're working your body. That is seduction right there. I go up the stairs. I was like, whatever, man. I see, I see Tip. I was like, oh shit, nigga, Tip's here. And still, uh he's top five for me, so it's like, so okay, okay, okay, okay. I'll get it. Mike Tyson's there. Damn. Nigga, this all wasn't one night. I hit the corner, I see Nellie. I see JD. What? Yeah. What, nigga? Nellie, JD, Cam. Now, Cam not a nigga you see out ever. Cameron is not a nigga you go ever see, especially in LA. Right. I said, what the fuck is happening? It was all there to see him. I I was able to avoid, I was, everybody was leaving. I was like, man, thank you, man. I'm glad y'all were here, man. Cam, we got to get this photo, baby. Barack came out of the show. Everybody was there. So it's like, you know, the magnitude and the light of just his present helped. Yeah. Just him being there helps. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01It was a it was a very someone who was never gonna be at a a stand-up comedy show now has come and they was able to see us on stage. Right. So now it's like, that's why when, and he even said he was like, when you know when people like, damn, like you you coming to stand up, damn you, like he like, I'm messing it up for you.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_01So you think, cause I just started, now I don't took your opportunity. Right. So like it was it was true, but it was like what he was doing for the game and stuff like that. Man, like, it just was dope touring.
SPEAKER_00On that transition, though, speech in that world, when he decides to do the movie, uh departments, what what do you think the logic is on going into it? Because he's uh he's already done movies at a very high level. For sure. Because let me tell you something, for those that do not know, take us Departments is funny. It's funny, yeah, it's funny. I didn't, I hadn't seen it. I'm sitting in the barber shop and it's old, and I'm like, oh, okay, this this is the movie. And it didn't take but a minute and a half, and I laughed out loud. I was like, ooh. Because I'm a nigga that count those laughs. But whatever you say the most funniest movie is, count how many times you actually laugh out loud. That's a smart way of it. Yeah, I count them, I count them like that. And I was, and it happened like within a 15 minutes, man. I had like three, four of them. I was like, nigga, that's a lot, nigga. We uh, this nigga, we are like we rolling them out. And then this, and then the storylines start making sense, and we bringing in like high-level concepts and conversations that need to be had in the in the in the in the real world. I was like, what the fuck is happening? This shit is great. I was like, I don't know. I think I had heard shit, but I hadn't seen it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and wasn't it uh originally a TV series?
SPEAKER_01Man, I was just wanting to say that, bro, with everybody's schedule, it was hard. Um, so it was supposed to be a TV series. You got Carlos Miller in there, you got DC Young Fly in there, you had Tyler Chronicles, Ronnie Joy, Clayton, uh Moneybag Mafia.
SPEAKER_02That's what I discovered him. I was like, this nigga's a star.
SPEAKER_01Oh man. You got Erica Dutchess, you got Throw It I One. So what they've been saying, everybody doing stand-up. Yep. As well as trying to do this. So what they trying to do a TV. Ernesto. It's so bad. My bad. Shout out to Arnesto.
SPEAKER_00No, it's it's way too many people today.
SPEAKER_01And Led Duval. And Duval.
SPEAKER_00She Mac, Tokyo. You forgot yourself.
SPEAKER_01It's too many, it's way too many people today. So with that being said, they said a TV series. Now you got a, we I think we shot uh uh episode. Right. And it was supposed to be another episode, but it rained that day. So then uh I think Carlos and DC just freestyled some shit in the car. So it was like, okay, cuz with Tip, you like, we got E. Cameron, we gotta shoot something. Tip's still a hustle, right? Like, we gotta shoot something. But then he was like, so we gotta shoot episode two and episode three. He was like, man, he was like, we might just have to tie this into a movie. So we end up shooting two and a half episodes, and he was like, we just gonna bring the storyline. So this the reason why I say it happened so it happened to be good because it wasn't a movie. It wasn't written like a movie, it wasn't periodically like set up to be a movie. It was a TV series that we couldn't finish.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So then when we done did Departments 2, that started off with a movie script. Okay. So now I think Departments 2 is gonna be even better because we knew this was a movie. Right, right. We thought we had a 15 weeks of filming, a damn TV series. We like, what the TV series gonna be on Peacock? Two, like what it gonna be? And that shit became a movie. And it was like it's an underground hood classic right now. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02Where did y'all already film the second one?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, uh-huh. Okay, him, Tyler, and Champ was uh writing on that. Uh we came and um did some voiceovers not too long ago. I want to say about a month ago, and that shit funny and dope.
SPEAKER_02And were y'all trying to get it? Y'all trying to get it at theaters or distributed on like Tubi or Chicago?
SPEAKER_01That's a tip question.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's a tip question. You might ask Tip a question, you're like, yeah, man, as long as I get my money back, I'll figure out something. Yeah, yeah, that's what you just gotta get out the red first, then we'll figure all the rest of that out.
SPEAKER_00But that's the beautiful part about the world that we're in and the independent, you know, content creators or the independent creatives. It's like we are in a space now where once you own it and it happens, it existed. That's the beautiful thing about movies, that's the beautiful thing about scripting. Scripted lasts forever. I had a conversation with Kev when he was when he had the app, he was shooting a lot of unscripted. I said unscripted was great. Kev on stage.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Hey, but when you say the Kev though, it's like it's it's getting there. You be like, Kevin Horton? Kevin on stage? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That Kev on Stage! Absolutely. But you can tell the difference when you say that Kevin, oh, you got Kevin Horton?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, hey.
SPEAKER_00Go watch the Tyler Chronicles one, too. Absolutely. But we but we saw uh, I remember having a conversation with him about scripted. I said scripted lasts forever. So that's a beautiful thing. When you shoot a movie, when you shoot a uh a TV series, hey, Blankety Blank, I just start watching Survivor's Remorse. I don't know when that shit. I just start watching Survivor Remorse. And I'm in the house cracking up. I'm like, man, this is great. They were like, yeah, that shit was seven years ago.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. He doing what they call it. Like, man, I don't want to do no uh teaser. I don't want to tell you what happened. 30 years ago, man. I ain't trying to, no spoilers. Yeah, spoiler alert. Spoiler alert.
SPEAKER_02You know he got moved out. Oh shit. Like, you know, the show ended five years ago.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, uh way behind. But um, in in that same vein, you uh are moving in the space where you're also picking up steam in other worlds and stuff. So how did how did it how did it feel working with Eddie on this second coming to America?
SPEAKER_01Bro, uh That's Eddie Murphy, baby. Yeah, I say it all the time, like sometimes it I think it's just uh you might I think God'll put you in a position just to like lift your spirits up sometimes and like be like, like, man, make you feel I don't know how to say this. Make you feel like a kid again, happy. Bro, like I was waking up happy to go on set. Nigga, I get to see Eddie today. Like, like, nigga, Eddie Murphy. This is Eddie Murphy, bro. Nigga, we I took a break where I didn't go on set for like two weeks. I'm like, damn, I wonder what they doing on set, man. He's like, I wonder what I missed that shit. But it was like, man, growing up, I because I tell everybody a lot, life my favorite movie of all time. So, Eddie Murphy, like, you know, the original coming to America, Harlem Nights, all the work he done done, it's like, bro, to be in a movie with him, and I think at that time, I had done did like three auditions, didn't get picked. And I'm like, you know what? I was doing stand-up, you know, we doing stand-up, but it's like with the acting, I was like, hey man, I'ma chill on them auditions. I said this. I said that to my agent, I was like, I'm gonna chill on them auditions. I was like, cause it's like it's a morale killer. Cause it's like, damn, when you telling a joke, you know when your joke not hitting. Right, right, right, right. You know when, hey, damn, I should've I should have got out of that early. You know what you're doing stand up, you can make an adjustment. After you do an audition, they tell you, alright. Thank you. Like, damn, tell me why I could have made it better. Yeah. But tell me come back in the room. Or something. Right. But it was like, okay, I went getting picked up. So I had auditioned uh for another part in coming to America too. So I didn't get that. They ended up going to Tracy Morgan. So you know sometimes that be a numbers game, they just want everybody to audition. So about I'm hilarious. Yeah. I get to work with my idol too. I'm pregnant. So at the time, bro, I didn't know what parts was what, because they were calling, I think, the quest. So it was like, uh, that's when somebody they was like, you know, that's a uh that's really gonna be coming to America too. So I was like, shut the fuck up. What it's gonna be about.
SPEAKER_04Right. Right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But then George Pierre told me. He was like, that's I said I was like, all right, George ain't finna lie. Yeah. So I had another audition. This was like a counter call, bro. And when I say, every comedian in Atlanta is there. Man, I'm looking around this room. I'm like, bro, I just said I didn't want to do no damn audition. And she got me in here with all these motherfuckers. So I could see it in person.
SPEAKER_02Oh, and wait a minute. Anyone that don't know what a cattle call audition, that means they see everybody. Like damn near like 500. You could have went. You could have went. That's straight up. That's what a cattle That's what a cattle call audition means.
SPEAKER_01So, bro, we in there. So then you know what? That when I started, my outlook changed while I was in there. I'm looking around the room, and everybody is in shape.
SPEAKER_00Oh wow.
SPEAKER_01I was like, if they looking for anybody fat, I might be the guy. Sitting down. Cause it's like, you gotta see what because you know what somebody told me? They be like, bro, in movies, sometimes you might not get a role because you might be dark. You can't be in a family, the only light-skinned person, and it's a dark-skinned family. Yeah, if everybody's short and you 6'6, like you can't be, so it's sometimes it ain't about your audition. It's about sometimes you might not fit. So I'm like, It don't match. No, I'm just looking, I'm like, okay, damn all this. You gotta start standing out. That's why I'm start looking at in certain stuff. So I'm like, okay, bet. I'm the only one. And at the time I didn't want to say it like this, but I'm like, I'm the only one built bad in here. So I was like, bet. Then my shot. I look up Rodney Perry walk in.
SPEAKER_02Shout out to Rodney Perry. Shout out to Rodney Perry.
SPEAKER_01Bro, he became bad built together. So he walked in and I said, damn, I got competition. Rodney smooth with his shit. He got his shirt tucked, then he got the hat on.
SPEAKER_02I said, damn. Yeah, he got that set entertainer fat.
SPEAKER_01But it's fat. My shit still ain't developed yet. I'm just fat. They fat, but they can dance and kiss. Bruh, end up, me and Rodney Perry both get to uh get to uh get on the coming to America too. And then being on set, bruh, just I was like a a student and a child at the same time, and I'm grown. And the reason why I'm saying I'm listening to their stories about like Eddie might start telling a story, Arsenio might tell a story, bro. Ain't nobody trying to interrupt them. We just listening, dog. We might go into uh the scene. That's when I really felt like a kid. They cut all cut. I was like, yo, Arsenio, can you finish the story you were telling us before we started back? He was like, oh yeah, yeah. So he goes into the story. I'm like, oh yeah, this dope as fuck. So it was just stuff like that where it's like, it was for me at the time, I think, it got, it started making me like start back believing in myself. If that makes sense. Like on into a into a like, bro, you round these people for a reason.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01I was so scared to do anything wrong on that set. Like, you know, the PAs will try to bring you something, like, oh, do you need I said, I'll go get it. I don't want no problem with nobody on this set. You are not finna file me. Very straight up.
SPEAKER_00Right. I need to be here. The uh that was a you just dropped a jewel that some comics could probably that that they might need to hear. One of the, I I think when we had the initial conversation about this show, one of the linchpins or one of the understandings we knew was like to create like that green room essence. So like, if if you be at the comedy unions club that was here, uh, and every now and then you catch one of the one of the comments passing. Bill Bellamy just happened to stop by tonight. He working on some shit, he did his set. All right, cool. Now, young hunger, we around him, and we call Bill in the story. And and now he going. He ain't looking at his watch, and I'd be like you, I'll be like, hey man, and then what happened? Yeah. And you shut up and you listen.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00And you hush and you listen.
SPEAKER_01And like, bro, as a you know how you around some people, they feel like they got a match. Hey, do you say that? Shut the fuck up. If Eddie is talking, what in the fuck story do you got for that? Not nothing. So yeah, man, when I was at the trickle hood, that's just like the time.
SPEAKER_02No, it ain't just like nothing. Shit like that, bro. Shit like that. I hate just like the time nigga.
SPEAKER_00I hate it, bro. Yeah, yeah. And you definitely right. But that's been like when we when we're having conversations about who sits in that seat, it's been like you have to have had the experiences, and everybody hush. Listen, listen. Yeah. And it's people that just want to, man, it's just like the time, man. I was like, no, no, my nigga, no. I love you, bro. And no. I love you, and please shut the fuck up.
SPEAKER_01And you know, sometimes people start peeping like, yeah, don't worry about it. I ain't even gonna talk about it. And then they go. Yeah, they go.
SPEAKER_00And then they start wrapping up, yeah, man. You know, I'm going, it's about that time. My wife calling. Convo killers. Yes.
SPEAKER_01Pulling the phone out, doing, hey, let him finish the story. Now we can't finish the story. He thinks you recorded.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Yeah, it's it's the it's the worst. Uh being it on that on that same conversation, man. You uh you you got stuff moving, you're you you're you're doing all these things, it's it's tour here, it's movies. When you how tell me how the uh 85 South connectivity happens. Because I know these are these are friends. It's like these are friends and comrades at parody, but being in that universe also, how does that uh feel when you're when you're around the country, when you're touring, when you when you're all your social, you feel their presence.
SPEAKER_01Man, um I think like you know, like during the moment you don't realize it till, you know, like afterwards, I would say that. Like, and when I say like, because like we all cool, so sometimes we don't be looking at it like this, and and like, granted, like Chico, Carlos, DC, like the shit that they doing in real time is monumental. Absolutely. But like we around them, we don't, it's like they thinking of the next move, if that makes sense what I'm saying. So it's like they don't even be living in the moment where we could dwell on it long, like, man, y'all boy just went number one on Netflix. Yeah. And like, we gotta give him something else. That's how they talk. So if they talking like that, it's like it reciprocates around that whole studio where it's like, what's next? Like, we gotta keep working, we gotta keep working, like we gotta put something out where people like keep the eyes on, like, okay, what you got? Right. What you doing? So we could we could put into this or pour into that. So it's like with that type of effect, them boys ain't no haters. So that's a reflection around the studio.
SPEAKER_00It's it's almost like, it's like uh it Atlanta's presence has always been here. Atlanta's understanding, especially comedically, has always been here. But now there feels like there's a new Atlanta. And technically, it's the younger vets, but it feels it feel fresh and new. It feels like between 85 South and Morton Culture, Nav, and everybody's like the new uh pillars in the city are are different. The new um heads of state are different. It's like it's like it's been like a change of regime. A change of command. Yeah, it's been a change of regime in command. Um with and and if and y'all love each other. It's a lot of uh how does that help when I know your show, you'll go on my show. It's like, how does that help in the city?
SPEAKER_01It helps tremendously because it's like okay, you know how sometimes it don't feel like work. And I and I I I speak for myself when I Say that. I don't never want it to be like, man, damn. You know what I'm saying? Right. When you sit down and the conversations are organic, it don't feel like work. It's like, bro, we just had an hour conversation before we start filming. Right. So now this shit so naturally, and it looks on camera like, oh, them boys really rock with each other. Cause you can't fake that. Yeah. So you so with that being said, it's like everybody in the studio, like a money bag, uh Jay Whitehead, like, if we go into a show, it don't matter who car you might jump in, because everybody like cool, like, say for instance, like, uh, if I was gonna ride uh in the car with Los to the arena and Bean might come down first, well shit, you ride with me. Yeah. Right. So it's like, imagine if me and him went cool, be like, man.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_01Like, it don't matter who car you ride in, you talking shit in everybody's car. Right. So it's like, that's just uh like around, and that's just with that. When you got people like Tyler Ronnie, uh Remo, Kamal, the Secret Genius, like you might run into them boys out. It's still like when you do their rooms, it's still like everybody is really cool. Now I ain't gonna say everybody in the city get along, but that don't stop nobody from getting money with you. If that makes sense.
SPEAKER_0285 South, they help produce your show, right? Your podcast?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. How how did that come about? Man, shit, they you know, sponsors coming to them. So it's like sometimes like that's when I think they was telling me, like, man, just knowing, like, bro, you don't want to do no part. I was like, I just like coming on the 85 South. They was like, bro, you can do your own show. Right. Like they hadn't said it a few times to the point where it's like, uh, prize picks got some money, and they know I like sports. So that was all I needed to know. Like, prize picks, I was like, oh yeah, I bet. Right. We go to games and you know what I mean, get the prize pick plug for sure. Like, so you know, at first it was like I didn't understand, and it was like, you know, I'm trying to do like talk about sports, but it's like, talk about it in your voice, if that makes sense what I'm trying to say. A lot of they already got this person breaking down stats and the game from the day before. That ain't your strong point. You a stand-up comedian first. So it's like, if this, if this ends season one, what you gonna do? Be like, oh man, now you now you feel bad because you didn't take it serious. Right. So like find yourself in it and and do what you want to do with it. So that's when I start like taking it serious, understanding what I want to, like, and then you know when people like say, like, man, I like your show. I like that'll that'll do more than like something you say you seen me on. Cause it's like I done started taking pride into this, and it's like you watching because I'm on there. Who that's not sometimes somebody might catch you on something else and be like, oh bro, you dope. I saw you on such and such, and might not go look at nothing else you done did because this you you came through their algorithm.
SPEAKER_02I feel like that's what we're starting to get with this. Absolutely. When we be out, they're like, we like each other. I ain't even think about it from that lens.
SPEAKER_01Look, you you take pride in this. Yeah. You can't say you don't. So it's like when somebody says, Man, I be watching killing, you like, okay. Yeah, yeah. So now that's building, and think about it. This fan base, you don't want to let them down. It's like, bro, fuck all that other shit. I like your show. So when you say that, like, hey, I do it for them 18 people. Yeah. Yeah. So that's when it started, and then the 18 become this and that, and then that's when I was like, okay.
SPEAKER_00I mean, you know, but you you do exist in a lot of different spaces. So when the when the Drewski thing happens, hold on, real quick, before we get to Drewski, because I did want to get to Drewski.
SPEAKER_02With the podcast, what's the the the biggest thing that you've learned about podcasts? Like, what's a piece of advice you could give to somebody that's starting a podcast, or for us doing eyes, they have a great podcast with, you know, great guests on.
SPEAKER_00What would you tell us?
SPEAKER_01Uh, I think like, um, say for instance, now this is what I had started realizing. I think in the first couple uh seasons, I was getting guests. You know what I'm saying? Then it's like, okay, then it's like, well, what if I don't, you know, can't get a guest? Or like, would I want somebody to watch this show if it's just me? So then we start figuring out, like, having co-hosts, because it I think a couple shows in that first season, it would just be me if I didn't have a guest. Right. So it's like, but I'm chiming in with the people behind the camera because then you don't want to feel like you're talking to yourself. But then it's like when you start getting people on the show and stuff like that, I was like, man, I want this shit to be organically like just natural conversation where it ain't trying to be forced. Because then you know, I start realizing what I like to watch. I watch interviews. Like if I'm gonna get in my car, I turn the interview on and have it going while like you know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. Because sometimes music, it's only so many times you want to hear your favorite song. Right. Before it stops being your favorite song. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Especially with especially with a time drive, like this drive is 15 minutes. Oh, this clip is 18 minutes perfect. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Bro, and then sometimes even like when you landing or on the flight, you you watching certain type of stuff. So it's like you ain't gonna some people are on Instagram and they, you know, catch your clips, that's cool. But if some people watch a whole YouTube video, and they sometimes people on game. Sometimes people don't want to hear all that goddamn goofy shit all the time. And I and when I say goofy shit, it's like, yeah, I want to laugh, but not you trying, like natural conversation like we have regular conversations. Like, damn, we are older. How you get like how they do at home with them kids? Talking about people can relate to them. Like, damn man, you old lady pitching you out, like just talking like, and I think that's the best thing with podcasts. Sometimes men could get that off. When I say get that off, like, how many times like you need to know why your dad was mad? Like, that nigga, he you just need him drinking. That's why my daddy beat me. All he needed was a podcast. Right.
SPEAKER_00Well, uh, no, I was asking about the uh the Drusky thing and being in uh in that space also, man, because he is a phenomenon in this world, but he understands, it feels like he he understands the lens of having dope people around him to increase what he's trying to do.
SPEAKER_01Man, I I feel like he wanna win, man.
SPEAKER_02I was bruh, that's what I was about to say, but I didn't want to step on nothing. I was thinking the same.
SPEAKER_01He wanna won. Sometimes, like, you know, just talking to him and like how he sees it, like, and I don't be telling people this a lot, but it's like, like when he ain't, he ain't no hater, man. He ain't no, he ain't in competition with other people. And when I say uh he not in competition with other people, the people he be in competition with don't even do comedy. So I might like, we might do something, and I see the views like from the episode, I'm like, look, this is what we did. He was like, Yeah, we gotta, we gotta get like uh look at Mr. Beast. He's killing. Got it. Like, Mr. Beast, that's a game show. But it's just like he sees the bigger picture where it's like, bro, you want to entertain all people. And when I say all people, like, not just limited to blacks, not just limited to whites, not just limited to our age uh, you know, group and stuff like that. So it's like he he be understanding the science to it where it's like just hearing him talk about it, like, I was like, oh, okay. He in a he in a different ballpark where he sees it. So it's like some people have a different damn vision for their career and all that. So I think that's where he at like shit, he finna host the damn BET or it is all right. So it's like he see, he see what I don't see. Right. And what I'm not trying to see. How y'all met in the first place? Um man, we had done a damn uh video back in the day. Um we was at a video shoot, me, him, and my buddy Marco LaBelle schooling. School for rich kids. You gotta get it. So we was in a video, and that was my first time running into Drewski. So after that, um next thing I know, you know, he doing videos, man. Next thing I know, the nigga in the Bud Light commercial. So I'm like, you know, like in Atlanta, we just be like, hey, but that nigga on fire. That boy fire. Hey, boy, that nigga the high nigga in the city. So when they start saying that, so he moved and then he like he started coming around coming to show. So he was like, uh, man, he was like, I'm thinking about doing stand-up. I was like, okay, he was like, man, uh, let's uh have some writing sessions. He done seen me on stage and stuff like that. Start going around him. He had uh tour. So he was like, oh, uh, if you uh I'm gonna talk to my people, I want you to open up the tour. So be honest with you, I be knowing how that shit go. I'm like, all right, I know this game. Hey, let's just write this shit and I know you're finna go. I know I know who they gonna put with you. It ain't gonna be me. Right, right. Yeah. Next thing I know, he was like, bro, it's that time. So I was like, oh, that nigga was for real. Right. So we start touring, but by that time, it was kind of like work. You know what I mean? And when I say work, it was like, okay, we ain't really like, you know, hanging or nothing like that. But on tour, we start hanging, like uh going to different events where it went work related. I'm like, oh, buddy, cool. So then that began, then that became like a like a genuine, like, basically like a friendship. So that that started translating work-wise. Cause now, like, when we would do the shows and stuff like that, the timing. Right. So sometimes I'm like, okay. Then he was like, man, I'm thinking about doing uh this could have been house. You said I was like, I don't know. Like, I ain't gonna lie, I doubted the shit though, right? Damn. I was like, the reason why I doubted it, I'm like, bro, I said, people attention span. That's how I'm thinking. I was like, I don't know if they'll watch a whole episode. He was like, man, if we do this, I'm telling you, trust me. He was like, bro, you got it. The nigga know how to motivate a nigga. And he gonna pay you. So I was like, shit. I was like, well, we can figure that shit out. Even if they don't fuck with it. This shit worth a try. So we gotta do the cutter band house. Man, the first episode, it goes crazy. Bro, I text him. Cause like I'm I'm real. I text him, I said, hey dog, I was wrong as a motherfucker. Boy, you is a genius. You were right. Yeah, he's a fucking genius. Man, bro, it went, man, it went stupid. And after that, it was like, he let me rock out on the show. Like he ain't trying to like, you know how some people like, damn, he was like, bro, you keep doing what you doing. Yeah. He was like, that's what, and that's what it, like we ain't stepping on each other's toe.
SPEAKER_00It's like, if this was, if this was the league, it's like, yeah, nigga, I average, I Shay averaged 33, 34. Luca averaged 33, 41, but LeBron still gotta give me some. I still need AR to give me some. I still need somebody else. It's like, cool, nigga, let me take a couple plays off. Let me take some time off. This thing is this long, all right, cool for that part now, and boom. All right, boom. I was hilarious here. Other people, you know what I'm saying? I don't need to take all the shots. I don't need to take all the shots.
SPEAKER_02What's something you learned from producing a show like that? Did you produce a cut of the coulda house at all? Or you just more like a on on camera?
SPEAKER_01It was more like on camera. Uh shout out. Uh he got a team um Cinco and like we would come up, you know, come up with different like things to do during during the show. Like, that's when I'm on set, but like beforehand, I might get on a few calls, but I'm not.
SPEAKER_02Fuck all that.
SPEAKER_01What's the craziest shit you saw? The craziest shit, bro. I think all that shit crazy if you ask me. Bro, I'm telling you, like, people be thinking, I had I told him one day, I said, bro, I don't know if the joke on us or on you. These folks really think I'm a fucking coach. Bro, it's like it wasn't no break because he got the budget where his cameras running all the time. You got people walking around with handhelds. So after we might do a segment, they setting up for something else. I'm over there on the side, they walking up to me. Hey coach, I want to uh run this song by you. Well, you don't get the fuck out of my face. And this type of stuff that's not on camera, like certain fights that they having, you can't put all the fights on YouTube. Right. Man, these folks, I'm like, bro, this is a four million dollar house. These folks jumping off table, like to the point where it's like, it's like real. But it's like to bring the company out of that is like a gift. Yeah. Cause it's like you see the different emotions, these people competing for the money. Because the money real. The money real. The money real is hell. They want the money. Yeah. And these people really believe in their dream. That's so funny. And I don't want to say it like that. I'm like, bro, ain't no goddamn way you think you can rap.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's the same way with the could have been love. I'm like, they really think they got a chance at this nigga's love. I'm like, they really in their mind believe.
SPEAKER_01And if you would see the bad shit that he has, why in the fuck you would sign up for this? They're delusional.
SPEAKER_02Oh man. But this is this is what I realized. I don't know if this is a secret, but this is what I realized about Drewski. He's really a philanthropist. And the winners are typically somebody who's you could tell financially they really need the money. That's who he chooses as the winner.
SPEAKER_01Bro, I'm gonna say this. The boy got a damn heart of gold. Like with certain stuff, I don't know if you could go and just pull up certain ads. Because this ain't me lying or nothing like this. Like, he don't put people that's from that show on little ads that he would do and give them money. Sometimes they would ask him for money, like doing, like if they going through, like he'll make sure they. They just like people around him. Like he just like you know how some people like, well, like fuck it. He got money. It ain't no money to him, but it's like I think he likes to see other people enjoying they self too. So it's like if you on, if you done been a part of the success that he's having. And when I say that, that might been a character on the show or a contestant on the show. I'm gonna put, they know you. I'm gonna put you in this uh ad. Like, from the first season, he had Ugliest Rapper Alive touring with her. He would come out and stuff like that. Man, Ugliest Rap Alive, bro, it was to the point where we get to the app where he like, coach, this is first time flying. Like, and I knew he I knew he went line because he he had all his luggage holding it in his hand. Right. And had his paper tag, uh paper, uh paper ticket. I was like, you know, you can download it on your phone. What's a phone? What's the phone? What's the sample out of the phone? It was to the point, so it's like, you know, when it hit me, I was like, bro, this man changing people's lives. Whereas to the point, now this man traveling. He he put uh one of the guys from uh season two in one of his uh commercials about uh the stub hub tickets or something like that. So it's like he do that type of thing.
SPEAKER_00See, that that's how you know uh when somebody's a a a genius or you see that they're brilliant, is they they say something, you start to understand it, and then you finally get to where they're where their understanding is. He he told you I'm watching Mr. Beast, because I gotta see how these numbers are. Then you realize, but nah, that's not comedy shit, that's a game show. Then you realize he didn't create it a game show. But I hear he he he didn't saw it already. He already he already saw it. Uh I have to do a little bit of cuckoo, do you? I have to do a little bird talk, cuckoo. Because I don't I'm gonna jump back to something we talked about earlier just to create perspective. I said the thing about Chicago, DC, Detroit, whatever, whatever. The reason what I was talking about when I say the scene is a little different is you know comics that live in New York, they live pretty comfortably because you can hit spots in New York and you get money just from doing stand-up. You know niggas in LA, whether it be commercial, writing, voiceover, whatever it is, all right, you getting LA money. Let me tell you something about them boys in Atlanta. I'm getting that goddamn money. Niggas look good. Niggas fabrics is right. You can tell that that there's a financial aspect there that is in a world where I don't know when the standard was set. I don't know how it how it leveled in a way where when the offer comes, enough people had it it was it was enough offers that made the offer start making sense, and now everybody's like, alright, cool, niggas is eating. Yeah how how did what does the financial when you when you guys get offers there, whether it be to do some TV shit, and I'm not I'm talking an indie movie, I'm talking about when you get in moving, when you're moving in the city, how how did the offers get good? Does that make sense? You get if you lived in Miami, and you was a comic, and nigga asked you to do some shit, and you and it'd be some shit, you'd be like, all right, you would do it for that, I guess. That number's different in Atlanta. Yeah. It's right.
SPEAKER_02You said you say you feel like they make more money because they're in Atlanta?
SPEAKER_001000%. But what that somebody set a standard there. Some somebody somewhere or some understanding happened where niggas know, nah, nigga, if you getting some money, nigga, I know. I know how much money you get, nigga, for the shit. Like, like, take care of me. So it feels like the the offers aren't as disrespectful. I could be totally wrong.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Well, sometimes they don't want to, they don't want you to say the offer. They don't want to, I don't want to offend you. When you if you start talking like that to me, I'll like, oh, they got some money. They willing to they offend us out here. But bro, you know what? Like $40 a minute. You know how much the show is paying out here.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, man. They don't really play with y'all. I'm just like, is that because of access to the guns? Nah, man.
SPEAKER_04That's hilarious.
SPEAKER_00No, what is it like like for do you you do you know you understand what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01I definitely understand what you're saying. I think it's uh I think it's like uh conglomerate. That's the right word to use. I think it's certain stuff like in the you know how some people being around someone, you start like like valuing yourself. Yes. And when I say valuing yourself, like you understand, like you hear how they talk, like man, like certain people ain't gonna let you play with their money. And they not gonna play with your money. There it is. So it's like, hey man, like even to the point where I think when I first started doing stand-up, uh, like people, like, you know, featuring for somebody, like, like people try to really shit on you and talk down on you if you're featuring and opening up for somebody. Then it's to the point where like I start appreciating featuring and opening up, because it was like I know the difference between the pay when you opening up too, if that makes sense. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, yeah, I know I open up these shows, but I ain't getting the opening the money. Absolutely. So it's like, you know, like I start putting value in what I do. If that makes sense what I'm saying. So it's like so it's like, okay, yeah, I know I'm not no headliner, but I want you to pay me headliner money.
SPEAKER_00Bro, watch this. I start coming in Houston, Texas. Uh Ali took me to a show one time, San Antonio, random ass club. Mind you, I don't even, I don't know Lee like this. He just taking some young comics with him. So if I wasn't cool with Blame, I don't even know if I'm here. Right. You know what I'm saying? If I ain't cool with Blame and Keisha, we get done with the show. It's nobody in this fucking club. It's nine people there. But whatever conversation he had had already set the money up in a way, I don't give a fuck about none of that other shit you talk about. The money gonna be the money gonna be right. I did my little pussy ass 10, 15 minutes. Let me tell you something. Them niggas gave me $400. I moved to Sacramento. Let me tell you something. Nigga, I I don't know if I ever saw 400. Nigga, I was like, yeah, man, we want you to headline, yada yada yada. I mean, we got like $75 for you. I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah. But because give or take the market, the standard is always set. But what what you're saying makes all the sense to the world. I ain't gonna play with your money, I value myself, and you and you ain't gonna play with mine.
SPEAKER_01And it's a person like Carlos, man, like sometimes if people can't reach Carlos, I don't know why they feel like they could call me. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, hey man, I'm trying to get Los on this show, man. Like, man, bruh, let him know I got such and such for I'm like, bruh.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Go through it.
SPEAKER_01But you know what? I say, okay, so you won't think it's me. So I might sometimes tell Los. So like Los, I was like, man, nigga think I'm hating on him. Like, I won't tell Los tell him, I want all the money. I want the money you thought you were gonna make. Since you think he ain't no hating on me. I can't go nobody. But it just so real nigga number one love. But it's people like that, and like, man, Los, man, all them niggas that they pay you good well to the point like, bro, I don't have to go outside this studio and and take, like if I if. I fuck with somebody. Like, man, I don't mind doing a show and stuff like that. And like, don't get me wrong, I'm not in a position to just be turning shit down. I ain't on that type of yeah. But it's like, hey, I don't have to leave the house for that.
SPEAKER_00You are extremely talented. You are hilarious. And you deserve every dollar and then some. It just feels like in Atlanta it's closer. It just feels like the money's it's like they they move in the action of I don't want to disrespect you. As opposed to, come on, man. Like, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01But BT, I in the same breath, outside of Atlanta, like, okay, if push comes to shove, if they don't want to tour, I we gotta get in position to want to put asses in the seat on our own. So I when that part come, cool. But right now, this shit flowing. So it's to the point, like, man, fuck them asses. Straight up. Let me get this money. Like, but it like, it, it, and it, it's, it's fun too, bro.
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SPEAKER_02We got a game on this show called Kill It or Let Live. Okay. Kill It or Let Live. I'm gonna throw out a topic that uh we both, me and BT wrote these questions together.
SPEAKER_00Absolute bullshit. I don't know what this nigga finna say.
SPEAKER_02We just want you to go with.
SPEAKER_00I put it in the group chat. He hit the heart. You get the heart on it.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna tell you when I jump out. All right, right. Yeah, oh yeah, you emphasize. So uh so uh uh basically if you if you mess with it, you're gonna say let it live. But if you don't mess with it, you're gonna say kill it. Okay. Kill it or let live. You have a one-night stand with a girl. She comes back around and says she's pregnant. Kill it or let live. The baby thinking. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Bro, there's so many questions that gotta be asked. How she look? She fine. She fine.
SPEAKER_02Her body fine, her face is on. Who do who wants season one of coulda been love? Uh Bambi. She looks like Bambi.
SPEAKER_01She looks like Bambi.
SPEAKER_02Like, fuck this nigga.
SPEAKER_01Damn. What do you want to do, baby? That's what's up.
SPEAKER_02Yo, body, your choice. But it's up to you. Kill it or let live.
SPEAKER_01You know, I ain't the best nigga in the world. I like that. That baby needs to have somebody to look up to. You don't want no baby by me. You gotta start talking down on the city. Yeah, go ahead and kill it.
SPEAKER_02All right, kill it or let live. You are known as the inventor of time travel. You get the time travel. You're known as the inventor of time travel. But in order to time travel, when you first go back, you have to witness the night you were conceived first. And then you're able to do everything. Hey man.
SPEAKER_01Bro, kill it. Because what if your dad just was a freaky ass nigga, like, bro, putting his leg on the table and all that? Hey man, don't do my mama like that, brother. My mama like, brother, you gotta genetically you had to get your moves from somewhere. Think about what you might do to a woman. And you go back and you see your dad doing the same. You jumped off the dresser. Right, right, right, right. Doing the same thing. So you gotta kill it. I can't watch that. Hell no, bro. But it's time travel. You can do the experience, it's time travel. No, man. And what if they're talking cra? Then you gotta hear it, too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You gotta kill it. You in the room, but they can't see you. You can go back to the 90s, man, and best in apple. You gotta buy some apple stomach back in the 90s.
SPEAKER_01But bro, what think about this? What if it was a couple sessions before you were made? What happened to your brother and your sister? Hilarious. The brother and sister on the wall in the house.
SPEAKER_02And you and you made it. Alright, this is my last one. Kill it a let live. You get a hundred, you have a hundred million followers on every social media platform. You get the star and all, you get the star in whatever movie you want to be in, TV shows, selling out arenas, everything. You the headliner, selling out arenas. But in order for all that to happen, you gas to participate in a Diddy party. Kill it. I wrote the with the first two questions I had.
SPEAKER_04Hey.
SPEAKER_01Bro, I I would honestly say, like, bro, kill it, kill it, kill. Like, hearing old Diddy party stores.
SPEAKER_00Oh my God.
SPEAKER_01Bro, that ain't no party. Stop calling the Diddy party. It's a Diddy funeral. There's a lot of joke going on. Hey, bro, it's Diddy. I don't see nobody happy that was at them Diddy party. You know, like, bro, you know, like the three little pigs and the and the wolf, like everybody had a side story. Can somebody come out and be like, bro, they lying? There was some good time. Somebody gotta have a documentary where we just come out and just we hear just the good account. Why is everybody? I woke up and he was laying. What the fuck?
SPEAKER_00My head, my head, my head, and booty was hurting. You like, what? Your head and booty? It really makes you think, like, nigga, well, who was this nigga to keep doing all that after that? If you had a freaky ass origin party, how you doing all this extra shit after the fact, nigga? Please.
SPEAKER_01Man, what kind of energy pills was you on to go host and do TV shows and throw these massacres at your mouth? At massacres? But nah, nah, I definitely killed, man. Ain't heard no good story. Not what?
SPEAKER_00Alright, uh, this is keep three, cut five, man. You hear we uh you know we had to get into some sports talk. Okay. Um, so they blind. You ain't gonna know what's coming, but you keeping three, you cutting five. Okay. Greatest NBA players. All right. Number one. Tim Duncan. You can keep it or you can kill it. And I'm keeping three though, right? You only get to keep three. Okay. Lamello ball. Cut okay. Magic Johnson. Okay, all right, all right. Uh Trey Young. Okay. Uh keeping track too, nigga. You don't get you. I got you. Damn. Okay. Roger Bell.
SPEAKER_02Stop playing with me, man. LeBron James. Keith. Alright, we got two. So he can go back and pick up somebody? No. No, you got one more. You got one more. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00He kept two, but this is this is the mate. Oh, okay. Kobe Bryant. Oh. Oh.
SPEAKER_01Who the mother to you might say though? No, that's it. That's the last one? That's the last one. Oh, yeah, Kiko. Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant, like, I almost had them neck and neck, though. Like, they got the same type of accolades.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, this is what it do. See, this is the set, this is the setup. This is what this nigga did. See, this is what this is the nigga did. That's the trap he just laid down. You know damn well most people are gonna say Kobe Bryant.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they will, but okay. Tim Duncan, they say is the greatest power forward. We hear that conversation a lot. Yeah. Kobe Bryant, they say he's the second best shooting guard. Mike is. Mike first. So it's like. I mean, hmm.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Is he?
SPEAKER_02How many rings Duncan got? He got five, too, don't he?
SPEAKER_00They both got five.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00My conversation gets a little, you know, yeah, you know, yeah, I don't know. I don't know if we have time. We don't have time. Okay, all right. That's just five. But no, a couple are great. Yeah, go, yeah. The beam, man. Hey, man. Uh, final question, man. Uh, it's going exactly how you want it to go. You are killing it in all aspects for you career-wise. What does it look like? This is like a little manifesting portion. It's like Okay, uh TV movies, it's not a good thing.
SPEAKER_01But longevity, man, it's like, you know, we done seen it so so many times where people have, you know, like a few good seasons and that be it. Like, I wanna, like at the end of the day, like, be in the marathon of it. And, you know, want to look up, be like, bam. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm still working and still able to do stuff 20 years later, like, just like, I don't want to be like, damn, have to pull up pictures and show it. Like, I used to do this or I used to, you know what I'm saying? I wanna just keep working, keep like, and keep having fun with it. Keep putting out content. That's what that's what we'll slow down doing, like, and not changing with the game. It's a lot of people I think before our era, they they they could have been in way better position if they started like looking up and like, hey, I gotta start playing and like to pivot. Cause some people like, you know, stand up on our side is like it's kind of new. Like the way you could go on stage and talk how you want to talk. Right. Like a lot of people was, you know, like trying to be I can't talk like that. I don't wanna, but now you go out there and say whatever you want to say, gain your fan base, and like still put content out on the internet. What the people that was already having that success was doing videos or doing something on Instagram when they say I ain't no Instagram comedian. Absolutely. They could have, they could have been in that lane already before the people that now that done built up and done went past because you was like, oh, that ain't gonna be nothing. They ain't gonna be around. You remember people saying that. That's a fact. I remember. I know some people. Man, they was doing interviews saying that shit ain't gonna be a good thing.
SPEAKER_00Anybody can be funny on the internet. No, they can't.
SPEAKER_01I know people that was funny on the internet, they done created their family. What no matter what you think about them, they don't have to care what you think about them. So I think just being open to like learning new things with stand-up, acting, any type of thing, like, and don't get jaded with it.
SPEAKER_00It is, man. Y'all pull up on Nav when he and your city, bro. Uh go ahead. All right, shit. Uh make sure you like, comment, and subscribe. Uh go in the comments, tell us all the uh things that you enjoyed about the interview, man. Go back and watch some more episodes. Uh, we appreciate you guys. Please tell the people uh anything you got going on, man, or where they can follow you and stuff.
SPEAKER_01Man, at Nav Green on all social media platforms, man. Uh follow me. Um yeah. Got some movies coming out, departments too. Broken play. Uh broken play, please watch that. That means a lot when you watch that.
SPEAKER_00There it is. Yeah. It's some other stuff too. Uh uh we talk about off camera. Y'all won't get to see it. We appreciate you, man. But got the movies coming out. You hear me? Uh we appreciate you, man. I'm one of your hosts, man. BT Kingsley. And Justin Hyas. London Brown is uh on assignment right now, but we love y'all. We out. Kingsley. One and only. Nav green. Nav Green!
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Uh thanks, bro.