Ready or Not (2019) Revisiting the Original in Time for the Sequel | Charlie's Picks

"Do you think this is a F***ING GAME?" "Yes. Hide and Seek, remember? You're cordially invited to the wedding event of the season. Then leave. Immediately. Trust us. You don't want to be a round when game time begins. The guys welcome back special guest & Charlie's better half, Mary, who thankfully didn't play Hide and Seek on her wedding night. Come join us in the music room for All Guts, So Gory. A totally normal podcast that people listen to. Ready or Not is a Radio Silence Film. Starring Samara Weaving, Adam Brody, Mark O'Brien, Henry Czerny, and Andie MacDowell. 

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All Guts, So Gory is a weekly horror movie podcast hosted by Mike, Charlie, and Justin. Each week, one host picks a horror film of their choice—anything from cult classics and slashers to supernatural chillers and modern gore-fests—for the trio to dissect. With a mix of sharp insights, dark humor, and plenty of passion for the genre, All Guts, So Gory delivers lively discussions that celebrate the bloody, the bizarre, and everything in between. If you love horror movies, this is the podcast to sink your teeth into. 

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SPEAKER_04 0:00

Coming up next, All Guts So Gory presents Ready or Not. Here I come. I'm gonna find you.

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This bride can't wait to be a part of your family. Is here for the right reasons. We're beautiful. But his family is playing games.

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Good luck.

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August 23rd.

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I just put on.

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You're not waiting on.

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Watch the trailer online now. The Mad and Macab.

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Oh, what monster could have done. I'm just gonna bash your brain.

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Playtime's over. Alright.

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Welcome to All Guts So Gory. Our movie day comes in at a tight hour 35, which passes the mic meter. Always the 2019 movie, ready or not. This movie has everything. It has blood, it has guts, it has the devil, it has a crazy butler, exploding kids, and cocaine. Hi, it's me, Charlie. I'm joined as always by Justin and Mike. And today we have a special guest, her second time on the pod, my beautiful wife, Mary.

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Woo!

SPEAKER_02 1:32

Woo! Hey everybody, I feel a little bit bad because last time we got so much feedback about my svelt voice. And I have been under the weather recently. And so I a little congested.

SPEAKER_06 1:45

You stop talking, it sounds like garbage, right? No, I know. Sorry, we're both pretty bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

You gotta mute the mic if you're gonna cough. I can't. Yes, you can. It sounds weird.

SPEAKER_04 1:55

It leaves a pop. What's what's happened before?

SPEAKER_06 1:58

I mean it'll pick up on all the other ones anyway. What's what's happened before that we got rolling is like Mary's given Charlie the tips that we've tried to tell him in the past. I think it carries more weight from Mary.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

He just knows he has to go home with me, and if I'm irritated with the coughing, it'll be an all-day irritation. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 2:15

I got a pocket full of uh sunshine? Lozenges. Lozenges. I like saying that. But don't make me laugh because the coughing gets worse when I laugh. Isn't it?

SPEAKER_06 2:24

Is it lozengeye? No, it's not.

SPEAKER_04 2:27

No, it's not. Lozigians?

SPEAKER_06 2:30

Perhaps.

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Okay, so the movie. Ready or not? What if we're not ready? Too late.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

It's one of my favorites.

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It's good. Okay. Why? Tell us why, Mary. Why are you saying that?

SPEAKER_02 2:40

I like it because it's horror and a comedy. I mean, the characters are so strong. Sometimes I feel like in horror they don't really, I don't know, you get a couple of zany characters, but like every character in this movie had something that I really enjoyed about them. Probably my favorite. Well, it's hard to pick a favorite, right? But the coked out sister was Emily. Definitely like great comic release.

SPEAKER_03 3:04

I mean, great. Why does this keep happening?

SPEAKER_06 3:07

She was so Alexis coded. Like the whole time.

SPEAKER_04 3:11

She could have used it was it Annie Murphy?

SPEAKER_02 3:13

Yeah. And whenever her husband's like, let's get you a gummy, level you out a little blue.

SPEAKER_06 3:19

Yeah, like so. Charlie mentioned this. It's an hour and 30 minutes, so they didn't have time for a whole like biography of each character, but they you knew who each of these people were. You knew the one was the broy douchebag.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:31

You knew the one was the coked out sister. You knew the one was the you know former trash that loves money. Right. The crazy ant. Oh god.

SPEAKER_05 3:39

The creepy ant. The creepy that loves each other. Those eyebrows. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 3:45

Zool over there or something. She runs. Who? From Ghostbusters.

SPEAKER_05 3:50

Oh yeah. I thought that was some Lord of the Rings bullshit or something. No. That's fire.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

I feel like Mike probably hasn't seen Lord of the Rings because it's like three and a half hours. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:02

He doesn't want to see it. No, I've watched long movies. I the fantasy stuff I don't do though. It took me forever to do Harry Potter, and that was only because Mary Marie was really into it. And so I watch those with her and Lord of the Rings, I I never got around to The Hobbit, I never got around to. I totally not my thing.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

I totally agree with you about movie length, though. Like if we can't do it in two hours, what do we do?

SPEAKER_05 4:25

Sometimes it needs longer. I mean, I've watched good movies that are three hours.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

I don't know. I feel like people it feels like people get in their egos, and that's why movies are longer than they should be. Because they didn't use it.

SPEAKER_06 4:37

Right. Or weak editors.

SPEAKER_02 4:38

Like we gotta keep it all in.

SPEAKER_05 4:40

But if it's slow and it's three hours and I'm bored, I'm gonna turn it off. If it's bored and it's an hour and a half, I'm like, well, I'll finish this.

SPEAKER_06 4:46

If it's three hours and they don't stick the landing, I want to punch somebody for showing it. This movie is none of that. I've aged.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

Way to pull us back to topic. Great.

SPEAKER_06 4:55

That's not normally Charlie's roles. Come on, come on, guys. Stay on topic. No, so I think if I'm not wrong, did we watch this one together in the theater? I think this was one of the first ones we watched together. Our budding relationship. Yeah, this was still in our courtship phase. Thanks, babe.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

And then Charlie was like, I think you would like this. And so then I watched it. And I think it has a lot of rewatchability. I I see different things every time I watch it.

SPEAKER_06 5:21

I've got, you know, real yeah, like there's real layers to it that like the next couple times I watched it and I start fleshing those out a little better. And I'm like, okay, I like that.

SPEAKER_04 5:28

It's some of those movies like back in the old days, if it if it was on, and no matter where it was, and if it was the last five minutes, I'd be like, oh yeah, come on, let's go.

SPEAKER_06 5:36

Yeah. I think about like this was my fifth time watching it, which I mean doesn't sound like a lot, but for me that's a lot, right? Like I don't know. It was good.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

And they pack a lot into an hour and a half. I mean, uh like we were talking about a little bit before we started, a lot of a lot of bodies. High body count.

SPEAKER_06 5:51

And what I liked is exposition on the run. It wasn't there wasn't like any kind of necessary like the motion, it didn't stop. The exposition also moved the story along. And it fit.

SPEAKER_04 6:02

You know, like when uh Emmanuel and his wife were talking about, you know, you love this, and she's like, I'll never go back. You know, you get a little bit of her past and it just worked in, it just fit. Right. It was perfect for the movie. And the movie does that all the way through. There's there's no time to catch your breath.

SPEAKER_06 6:20

Yeah, it didn't it didn't show us her vows, but Andy McDowell's character came back and said, I loved your vows, I didn't know you were you know, like it was on the walk, we're this walk and talk, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:30

Which is kind of the opposite of the last movie that I joined you for, The Strangers, where it was like we have to watch them in the car, and then we have to watch them at the house, and then we everything's building, building, building.

SPEAKER_06 6:41

I think that I I like that a bit back to the failed proposal at somebody else's wedding, which you should know better.

SPEAKER_02 6:47

Right.

SPEAKER_06 6:48

Okay, what we're gonna do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:52

Never forget. I never forget.

SPEAKER_06 6:53

What about you, Mike? Yeah, my my relationship with the hashtag. Never forget. It doesn't mean anything else.

SPEAKER_05 6:59

I I use it often. Oh god. Now my relationship with this one, I don't remember the buzz around it when it came out in theaters because Mary Marie and I watched this on a streamer not long after it came out, and it was pre-kids and when we would, you know, spend our weekends watching movies and TV shows and whatnot. And you know, we were just watching some trailers and we're like, yeah, that looks good, and really didn't hear anything about it, know anything about it, and we're pleasantly surprised. Sometimes you watch a trailer and you're like, sure, and you realize why that movie had no buzz or why you didn't hear about it when it was out in theaters. Not in the case here. We were we both loved it, enjoyed it. It was a lot of fun watching it. It's got a sequel now, seven years later, which just came out this past week. So I have not heard anything, read anything. I don't want to know that it bombed or that it's doing awesome because I want to go see it, but I know Buffy's in it.

SPEAKER_06 7:53

Christy Swanson? No. How dare you? Um R.I.P. Xander, by the way. R.I.P. Xander. We did a little greeting. I sent that to my friend, he's like good riddance.

SPEAKER_04 8:03

I was like, damn, damn, I'm sorry. Not even cold yet. In a minute.

SPEAKER_06 8:07

So I was today years old when I watched the trailer for this one for the first time in my preparation for this podcast, and I'm so glad I didn't watch it because it steals about half of the funny moments from it. So I'm like, That's why I avoid trailers. That's absolutely why I avoid it, you know, like that.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

I don't think I've ever seen the trailer. That's good.

SPEAKER_04 8:27

I'm not sure how I heard about the movie. I I don't know if it was a trailer I saw in the theater, or if it was just, you know, I'm always on the lookout, always searching for like what's coming out next, what's coming out this month and that month.

SPEAKER_06 8:38

I think during other movies I'd seen enough to close my eyes, but it it it set up this whole like this idyllic wedding situation turns into something else. But after that, I'm closing the eyes, clo closing the ears and all that. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 8:50

I feel like though, whenever it came out, you guys were doing a lot of going to the movies together and talking about movies a lot, so I'm sure that it just is one of those that came up organically.

SPEAKER_04 8:59

Yeah, probably. Okay, some movie taglines. I'm gonna throw out a couple and you guys let me know if you've got any other ones. The game begins. A killer game of hide and seek. I mean, they're short. Yeah. I like that. I like that too. They don't give away anything. Right. Which is nice. They're coming is another one. Sounds like an order. They're coming. That could be like any movie, right? Right. Literally any horror movie. Something is coming after you, every single horror movie. And then my favorite in-laws can be murder.

SPEAKER_06 9:31

Okay. Yeah. That's the poster one.

SPEAKER_04 9:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 9:34

And we we end the movie with the in-laws line too. That was good.

SPEAKER_05 9:38

Yeah. Truer words, never been spoken. Present company excluded. Right. Yeah, nobody that's obviously nobody that we know. Alright, so the movie premiered. Real quick. Do you know the difference between in-laws and outlaws? No. Outlaws are wanted. Snap. Snap. Moving on. Snap.

SPEAKER_04 9:59

Okay, this movie premiered at the Fantasia International Film Festival on July 27th, 2019. And then theatrically released in the U.S. August 21st. Six million dollar budget. I mean, that's not bad.

SPEAKER_05 10:16

I mean, it had good special effects. That's cheap. Let's be honest. That's cheap. Was it like$4 million to rent that property for the filming? Probably. It was probably like somebody's brother's uncle's house or something like that.

SPEAKER_06 10:29

And Canadian dollars. Somebody's brother's uncle would also be their own uncle. Somebody's friend's uncle. My brother's brother. Maybe they're half uncle. Maybe they're half brothers. You don't know. That's true. That's true. Uncle in law. Come for me. That's funny.

SPEAKER_04 10:44

And then made 57.6 million worldwide.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

Not a bad return.

SPEAKER_04 10:50

Not a bad at all. Yeah. And I and it did not have a lot of marketing that I remember. So that's now probably. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:58

Like I said, I remember no buzz when this came out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:00

I mean, I think though that they didn't spend a lot on the cast. I'm sure you're going to tell us who's in it, but I feel like the guy from the OC, Andy McDowell, was probably the most expensive get.

SPEAKER_04 11:09

Probably the most well known.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

Dad's pretty well known too, though. He was in all the Mission Impossible.

SPEAKER_04 11:16

Yeah, but Mark Dow had a good action movie guy. Anna McDowell is in the 90s. Yeah, she was we'll get to them. Yeah, because I think they were perfectly too.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

I think they were perfectly categorized.

SPEAKER_04 11:29

That was the end of her career.

SPEAKER_06 11:31

You know, not as big as she ought to be. After the end of her career, basically.

SPEAKER_04 11:34

Yeah, this was like a hey, this is still working, but I mean it's not Anna McDowell from the 90s.

SPEAKER_06 11:39

Did you get to the fact that this uh the house? We talked about the house a little bit, Billy Madison House. It was it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:45

It's the same house. I didn't look up any of the facts for this one, so I'm coming in blind. Oh, he's pulling Charlie Wildcar.

SPEAKER_04 11:53

It's very freeing, isn't it? It's like not wearing underwear or something. It makes you nervous and it's super free, right? So this uh movie was nominated for Best Horror Film, 46th Saturn Awards. It did not win. Also, Chainsaw Award nominations. I think she won for Samara won for Best Actress.

SPEAKER_05 12:15

Lost Best Actress to Lapita Nuango for us. So you didn't do any homework. I did homework. The only thing I did not do was the I did not make up any of the behind-the-scenes.

SPEAKER_02 12:24

I might have coming in blind, but uh nope, she lost that award.

SPEAKER_06 12:29

He's our backup podcaster than us.

SPEAKER_05 12:31

I did the rest of the homework.

SPEAKER_06 12:32

He's like, I know they're not gonna look into who knows what I'm not gonna look at, right?

SPEAKER_05 12:38

The film lost also to uh Midsommar and the Chainsaw Awards.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

I know that's a tight couple of I love Midsommar.

SPEAKER_06 12:46

Midsummer's good, but like I don't feel like it should be in the same, I don't know, Chainsaw, come on. It's too good for it, you know. Like, let's make it that next year down. Okay. Something else, Midsummer? That's a hot take.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

I love it. I love that movie. It's one of my favorites. It's it's it's hard to rewatch. Oh, yeah. It's I mean, I watched it twice, I think. Um once was because the kids wanted to watch it, and I felt like it's the kind of movie I should watch with them. Such a good hang.

SPEAKER_05 13:12

That's one that I was like, this is way too long. Yeah, I stuck it out, but I was like, God, that could have been an hour shorter. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:19

You just like the part where they jump off that cliff. Now he just liked it. That was a cool part. He liked it. Then the big hammer comes out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:26

Mike liked the hot, hot sex scene. No, no, I did not.

SPEAKER_05 13:30

Nope, nope, nope, nope.

SPEAKER_02 13:31

It had a crazy opening too. Anyway, we're not here to go.

SPEAKER_05 13:33

The most disturbing part was the opening where your family was just like, oh. You guys can do midsomar the week I'm on vacation. Yeah, that's the wives out episode.

SPEAKER_06 13:42

We'll give that to them. We'll do wives out, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:44

Wives out. Let us know. Yeah, Mary came up with an idea. We weren't talking, did we talk about that? No, we talked about it. We talked about it before the pie. Well, before we started recording. But so we are all Justin, Mike, and I are all married, and Mary's like, maybe we should just have like a wives episode. We'll call it Wives Out, like play on Knives Out. Oh, that's what is first.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

I don't think he got it realized, to be real. But also I will say, I just think for Charlie's edification.

SPEAKER_06 14:12

What do you what do you mean by wives out? See, Knives Out was a movie, a mystery movie.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

I think I should also say that all of the wives enjoy each other and are friends. So I think it would be entertaining. But I don't know if I I also did not run that past Sarah or Mary Murray before I uh threw that idea out there. So I should also disclaimer right there.

SPEAKER_06 14:33

You're gonna listen to this and be like, I'm doing what? Bullshit. It's like the text today I got about what I'm supposed to make for Easter. I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_05 14:42

Yeah. Justin can make mac and cheese. Oh, can he?

SPEAKER_06 14:46

Remember Thanksgiving?$50 grare. It was I told uh Sarah's like, you just volunteered me for$60 worth of a side item. Most expensive in it next year. I've got a cheese guy at Dearburg, so that's the good news. Cheese Somalier. Alright, reel it back in. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 15:04

Okay, directors. This has this movie has two directors. Yeah?

SPEAKER_06 15:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:07

Ugh, I don't think they're.

SPEAKER_06 15:10

I don't really hold on. Don't tell him what I want to see if he remembers. Oh, okay. What?

SPEAKER_03 15:15

No, go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 15:16

Go into your go into your director. I was just gonna say there's two directors. I didn't not new to the pod. Not new to the pod, these directors. Barbarian? No. So there's Tyler VHS. They did uh one of the Tyler Gillette.

SPEAKER_04 15:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:30

They did the Halloween night VHS segment.

SPEAKER_04 15:34

Yeah, they did that's made you know, small potatoes. That's where they kind of you know started off. But I mean the resume. Ready or not, Scream, Scream 6, Abigail. I'm waiting for that one. I I like that movie a lot. I like Abigail a lot. Yeah. And then Ready or Not 2 is coming out soon.

SPEAKER_02 15:51

It could be really hard to have directors.

SPEAKER_04 15:53

Oh yeah. Just call it.

SPEAKER_06 15:56

I did a little feature together and they just click. Yeah. I watched behind the scenes. One pretty much sticks with the the crew and the other one kind of sticks with the cast. And then if they ever have to cross, they said it was pretty seamless, but it was like they're pretty much in their lane the whole time. Right.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

So you have to have a shared vision, especially if you're gonna work separately like that, because you have to trust, you have to have a lot of trust in what the other kids doing.

SPEAKER_06 16:20

Working friendship, relationship type of thing. Yep. Yeah. So at the end of the day, somebody has to have a the boss hat on, too, though.

SPEAKER_04 16:27

Like somebody has to win in a tie. No, these guys. So I mean the the other guy, Matt Bettinelli. Sure win. That's exactly how you say it. Same movies. So yeah, that's that's their gig.

SPEAKER_02 16:39

Oh, really? I did not realize that they had directed movies together.

SPEAKER_04 16:42

As a team, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

And Scream is great. I mean, those are some great movies. It's the five and six screen.

SPEAKER_04 16:48

I like that. A writer's two writers. Yep. Guy Busick. Hold on, my link is not working. That's true.

SPEAKER_05 16:57

Now are they also part of the radio scene? He did. I don't think he's with this group, but they did Ready or Not, Scream 5 and 6, and 7, which is Kevin Williamson's back on for screen 7. Abigail, but also did Final Destination Bloodlines. So they did some stuff. Yeah, we love that.

SPEAKER_04 17:12

Stan Against Evil, have you guys seen that series? No. Not yet. I liked it. It's it's really cheap.

SPEAKER_02 17:18

But Charlie do watch a low budget movie. He watched that. Oh my gosh, my wheelhouse.

SPEAKER_04 17:23

It is. He loves it.

SPEAKER_05 17:28

Low budget horror? It's like this is 76 minutes. I'm like, I'm in. Right. Because if it sucks, it's you're gonna start with treats.

SPEAKER_06 17:36

Charlie. Charlie's.

SPEAKER_03 17:38

I can't stop it.

SPEAKER_06 17:40

First podcast where Charlie died.

SPEAKER_04 17:42

Okay, the other guy, Christopher Murphy. Stand against Siebel. I guess that's where they met or whatever.

SPEAKER_06 17:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:50

Ready or not to ready or not. And then you know they have small stuff back the like the teens, the early teens, late aughts.

SPEAKER_05 17:59

I saw on one of his credits, so he goes by R. Christopher Murphy, but on one of his early credits, I guess the R is for Ryan because he's credited as Ryan Murphy. Which he can't be now because there's a way, way, way more famous Ryan Murphy. Who's that? I mean, Justin wants to know.

SPEAKER_06 18:13

Just to remind Charlie, that is the Glee and American horror stories and American crime story, all those.

SPEAKER_05 18:22

So he's maybe this guy now goes by R. Christopher Murray. Or R. Christopher Murphy.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

People that go by an initial just drop it. Just go by Christopher. Or go by like J.K. Robbins.

SPEAKER_05 18:35

Michael B.

SPEAKER_06 18:35

Jordan can be Michael Jordan, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:38

Right.

SPEAKER_06 18:39

But he doesn't Do you think he could have been had Space Jam that's a good one? Yeah that he's got an Oscar? No. Because like Jordan didn't have a SAG card at the time. He could have done it with that before. No, he's too famous. Space jam.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

He's too famous. You can't.

SPEAKER_06 18:52

It's gotta be Michael B. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

And I don't mind a Michael initial, but I don't love the first initial. Yeah, I don't like the uh first like F like F.

SPEAKER_05 18:59

Murray Abraham. Like I don't really get the first initial thing. You love F. Murray Abraham, though. I do this guy. C. Thomas. C. Thomas How? C. Thomas Howe. C.

SPEAKER_04 19:07

Thomas Howe. All right, F. Murray Abraham. Jake played this too.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

Let's go back to writing.

SPEAKER_04 19:12

Whoa, whoa, I'm I'm the guy that wrangles the cats around here. Okay, so let's get into the cast. Samara Weaving plays Grace. Brilliant. The lead character. Yes. Not a final girl. She's a hero.

SPEAKER_06 19:26

This is where she went from that girl in Res or Ashverse Evil Dead or that girl from The Babysitter, and she became Samara Weaving for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

I didn't realize she was also in other horror movies. Oh, yeah. I'm not a big horror genre fan.

SPEAKER_05 19:40

She was phenomenal in this, in my opinion. Right. She was amazing. Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:44

I mean, she brought a whole lot of personality to the role.

SPEAKER_04 19:45

And her scream. Oh, amazing scream.

SPEAKER_06 19:49

It's almost like she's singing while she's screaming.

SPEAKER_05 19:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:52

I like to refer to her as the uh the approachable Margot Robin.

SPEAKER_03 19:57

I knew it was gonna come up.

SPEAKER_06 19:59

I knew it was gonna come up. And she's Australian. I knew she is. Yeah. They may be related. Do you know who she is related to? Who? Lord of the Rings is coming in. Hugo Weaving. Um that is. The elders. It's her dad, right? You know, Agent Smith from Oh, it's her dad. It's her uncle.

SPEAKER_04 20:15

Oh, yeah. He's been in a lot. He's been around for a long time.

SPEAKER_06 20:19

Bee for Vendetta. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

Elron is Nefo baby, which is Nepo baby.

SPEAKER_05 20:23

Yeah. Damn Nepo. Damn Nepo baby. So Margot Robbie and Samara Weaving were both in them film Babylon together. That would be confusing as she's.

SPEAKER_06 20:31

Oh, I think Samara Weaving's part of the Margo is much smaller. Probably much smaller. Right. Her paycheck was a little smaller too, I bet.

SPEAKER_02 20:37

I thought she was so much fun in this movie, though. She was a lot of fun at the beginning. I don't love when they open a movie with somebody talking themselves in the mirror. But I but to your point, it was a short movie, and I feel like they were like, okay, we got to get certain information across, right? Talk about who she is.

SPEAKER_05 20:52

And she's getting ready for a wedding day, so she's gonna be looking in the mirror a lot, right? Yeah. But the talking in the mirror thing leave it a little different. But yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:59

Girls, girls in their mirrors, you know.

SPEAKER_04 21:01

Girls be girling.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 21:04

Okay, Adam Brody plays Daniel, the older brother. OC.

SPEAKER_02 21:11

Fame.

SPEAKER_04 21:12

He's always fun to see. He's always been in a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Did a great job as a strung out, like I'm tired of this shit.

SPEAKER_06 21:22

What is spells to me is a life full of guilt and just like call self-medicating, right?

SPEAKER_02 21:27

That's what with a great redemption arc.

SPEAKER_06 21:29

Yeah. Fantastic redemption. Yeah, really. We're gonna save that, but like I feel like he's the better brother for sure.

SPEAKER_07 21:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

Probably my favorite character outside of Grace. Yeah. Anyway, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 21:40

Mark O'Brien plays Alex, Grace's fiance slash husband, slash. I'm gonna kill you.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Play the I mean.

SPEAKER_06 21:50

He played the I'm better than you guys part perfectly, though. Like he played the Morally superior. Right.

SPEAKER_04 21:57

Yeah. Right. Immediately you get to think like. You know, my friend Savages, I got out.

SPEAKER_06 22:03

I've got a 10-minute thing on that, but I'm not doing it yet. Later. Okay. Later. Okay. Not 10, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Let's get to the cast, folks.

SPEAKER_05 22:10

Henry Zerny. The dead. Yeah, it's the Z is like an H. Like, Don't Stop Believing. Almost. Almost. Yeah, I think it's Cherny.

SPEAKER_06 22:21

He was great. Yeah, but as the patriarch of the family.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

I feel like, and he can be. Same with Andy McDowell. They both just like are very classy people, generally, I think.

SPEAKER_05 22:35

The Mission Impossibles and other stuff he's in. He's a great white-collar bad guy. Yeah, yeah. There's a calm fury kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

There was a Tom Clancy one that he was in that he's also a white-collar bad guy.

SPEAKER_06 22:49

I do love a good Tom Clancy. I know she's done a lot of stuff. He's that guy. They wouldn't have told you this first or last guy.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

Anyway, Mikeets. Mike and I were going to start a fan club for him, but and then we get to the mother, Andy McDowell.

SPEAKER_04 23:05

Andy F. McDowell. Becky. Yeah. And what's the what's the family's last name? There's got to be La Domas. La Domas. La Domas was in a trivia. Not Domas. La Domas.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

La Domas.

SPEAKER_04 23:19

Yeah, I mean, they shouldn't have called her Becky. It should have been Rebecca. She's she's a Rebecca. She's not a Becky.

SPEAKER_06 23:24

She was a model first, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And then she did continue to do the catalog model and stuff while she was acting, right? She was Jean in a Tarzian movie. Groundhog Day. Groundhog Day. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_04 23:36

Sex Lives and Videotape. Multiplicity. I mean the 90s was her decade. She was in a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

She was a great leading lady.

SPEAKER_04 23:44

She was in that movie with that French actor who got canceled. Girard Despalut.

SPEAKER_05 23:49

Because he's a piece of garbage. And she's Margaret Qually's mom of the Substance fame. Of course.

SPEAKER_07 23:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:56

Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

More nepotism. More nepotism.

SPEAKER_06 24:01

Yeah, I mean, kind of. Once you put it together, you'll be like, oh, I can see it a little bit. I don't know. I still don't see it.

SPEAKER_04 24:07

Okay. Then we get to Melanie Scrofano. Plays Emily, the coked out sister who just killing the help left and right.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

She does kill help.

SPEAKER_04 24:18

She killed 66% of the help. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

She probably has the highest body count of the whole movie.

SPEAKER_04 24:25

Probably. Shit. So she was, she was been. Have you seen Letterkenny? The Canadian comedy. I've seen clips. She was, she's Mrs. McCreet McCurdy. Is she like the you know the couple that's all like really sleazy and always talking about sex and nope? Yep. And then she was also. What is it? Let me just pull it up real quick.

SPEAKER_06 24:50

She was the well Charlie's in this fan club, apparently.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

Yeah. We all have our equipment.

SPEAKER_04 24:54

I kept looking at her and I was like, what have I seen her in? Like in Letter County, she looks way like trashy. Like she played trashy really well, which is kind of kind of weird.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

She played cooked out really well, too.

SPEAKER_06 25:10

Yeah, she plays a lot of her little like bits of like cheer that come out are the best.

SPEAKER_04 25:15

Winona Earth, that series, which I we saw like the first episode, I think. I don't think we loved it. Exactly. One episode. 2016 to 2021. That was her show. Yeah, yeah. She did Leonard Kenny. She was in Saul 6. Let's see what else she was in. Not a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_05 25:33

I mean, I that we would know, but yeah, when I looked it up, I was like Saul Six, and I'd never heard of any of the other stuff she was in.

SPEAKER_04 25:40

Yeah. Star Trek Strange New World. She was in 13 episodes. I've seen a couple of years. Plays like uh Captain Battel. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

Sorry, who else is in the movie? She's taking an Indian. She's taking an Indian human spoke. Charlie goes deep dive on his head. Nobody heard that.

SPEAKER_04 25:56

The brother-in-law. Christian Brun Fitch.

SPEAKER_06 26:00

That's great. Fitch. Don't be a bitch.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

Don't be a bitch. Don't be a bitch. Also the one he was.

SPEAKER_06 26:05

Orphan black. He was an orphan black. Or he's been in a bunch of British stuff too, right?

SPEAKER_02 26:09

And he searched a lot of different things during the movie. He used Google a lot. And I think he Googled how to use a crossbow. Yeah. And our deals with the devil bullshit or nah. Like something along that line. Searching.

SPEAKER_06 26:22

He didn't hit search on the devil reeling. Because his friend sent him a text what's up, what's up, dog? Family shit. Hilarious. Yeah, family should. Family shit.

SPEAKER_07 26:33

He did say family shit.

SPEAKER_04 26:35

And then the psycho wife of Daniel. Charity. The call Elite. Levesque. I don't know. Levesque. She was a good one. Not gonna work. Levesque.

SPEAKER_06 26:44

Levesque. Yep. It's French Canadian or something. That was an example of perfect exterior, but like rotten inside kind of character. Right, right. She she played really well.

SPEAKER_04 26:54

You get a lot of her history in the movie. And she was in she's been in a few things, not a whole lot that we would know about, but she was good in this movie.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

Yeah, she was great.

SPEAKER_04 27:06

She was great. Who are you shaking your head at? I'm shaking your head at that.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

Your character det types.

SPEAKER_04 27:10

Because I don't care what else they were in. So I literally don't give a shit either, but despite the pod. But we also know.

SPEAKER_05 27:17

But look it up before the pod. Wow. Wow, Mike. Just saying.

SPEAKER_06 27:22

He knows that Mary's gonna take Charlie from Punch. Fine. Can we all have can we we glossed over Samara so fast? Do we have like a favorite Samara role? Like did you guys may have the babysitter? I thought was amazing.

SPEAKER_05 27:37

The the sequel, not so much, but not really like her fault. It was just not as good. Yeah, they not as well written. Not as good a story, no shock value anymore after the first one. Right. The first one was really funny and a great cast to go with it. And then but then yeah, this movie's great too. After that one, and then this one was two years later.

SPEAKER_06 27:57

Like, I'm all in. I think once she discovered this like subgenre or the genre to act in, I think she really, you know, embraced it.

SPEAKER_05 28:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:06

I hope she doesn't get like typecasts where she has to be in horror movies or no one's gonna you know take her seriously or anything. But she's she's a good actor.

SPEAKER_05 28:15

She's a great actress. I think she did a really good job with like this the the evil laughing and the just the the guttural screams, the you know, the comedic, the comedic timing, like the the timing with how she delivers her lines on the comedic stuff, like you know, like there's writers can write, but you also got to deliver that. Yeah, and she delivers them really good, right?

SPEAKER_02 28:38

And she was great at the I mean at the beginning of the movie, she was happy, she was a great bride, you know, a borderline giggly. I mean, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 28:47

All right. Sorry. I just couldn't I couldn't pass up the opportunity. I thought we didn't spend enough time on the star of this movie.

SPEAKER_04 28:53

Okay, then we have Nicky Guada. Oh my gosh. Not gonna pot here anymore. Yeah, right. Aunt Helene. Aunt Helene was great. One of my favorite characters. Like I like like Mary was saying, like this movie has there's no throwaway characters. Even Crazy Butler, which is my last guy on the list. There's no throwaway characters, they're all good. I want to know I wanted to know about them and then see what they were gonna do next, and nobody just wants to.

SPEAKER_06 29:21

With this character, she had like an accent, she had like an evil, like they played with a little bit of fire. This could have been a hokey character, and I think I think she played, walked that right up the line. Right on the line, yeah. Anyway, she was really good.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

Yeah, because the first time I watched the movie, I remember like wondering a lot about her like hairstyle choices? No, okay, about her like motivation, because obviously at the beginning of the movie we see her and traumatized, and we can talk about that when we talk about the plots.

SPEAKER_06 29:53

Once I just want to throw this question out to the room. Like, the first time we watched it, do we know that she was the bride at the very beginning? Okay, yeah, it was really obvious I forgot. But with the biggest thing, I think it was too, but like I think they later they played it like it wasn't. Like when she's speaking in the room after Alex is handcuffed, it kind of does a reveal, you know. I'm like, Do they need that reveal? But it's okay. Right. I did, but whatever. I'm simple.

SPEAKER_04 30:17

Simple Jack over here. I mean, she does look way older than her brother. Way older. Yeah, she does have kind of an accent, so I was like, is this like a great aunt or something? Right. So at first I didn't put it together until later on. And then when you go back and watch it, of course, you see it immediately. Right. She's got the same hairstyle, but black hair.

SPEAKER_06 30:38

That hairstyle. And to Stevens, the crazy butler who loves the 1812 overture.

SPEAKER_04 30:46

Yes. He does too much turns out to his detriment. Oh my god. John Ralston, lots of stuff, blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_06 30:55

Okay. Alright. So there's the great cast. I agree with Mary. Not a wasted character. Even the help, even the help like had their own little moments where they were, you know. Yeah. They're trying to kill me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:08

The three nannies slash dancers. Housekeeps where Mr. La Damas just likes me because the way I dance.

SPEAKER_06 31:16

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 31:16

They're all dressed up like Robert Palmer's.

SPEAKER_06 31:19

Robert Palmers.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Back of the simply irresistible. Every time somebody in the family finds out she's dead, they're like, oh, she was my favorite. She was right. Even Fitch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:31

Does she look like she's wearing a big white fucking wedding dress?

SPEAKER_07 31:34

We'll get there.

SPEAKER_04 31:35

We'll get there. All right. Okay, okay. Okay, so it opens up. Two little kids, brothers running, one's pulling the other. They're obviously, you know, one's a little bit older than the other. I don't know, like eight, five years old, something like that. Hides the little brother in some wardrobe in the hallway.

SPEAKER_06 31:55

Once again, running exposition, because we discovered that this is like this has to be like a 40-room house, right? Like, yes, it shows them running. It feels like a circle or a labyrinth, and it just like this is a huge house. That hallway was a square footage of my house.

SPEAKER_02 32:11

And I was like, What are they looking for? And then they get in the closet or the cupboard or the wardrobe or whatever, and I'm like, why are they looking for that specific wardrobe? They probably passed 15 different places that he could have stuck him for.

SPEAKER_04 32:24

Yeah, right. And then Charles in charge. Poor Charles comes out. Help me, help me, Daniel. They're trying to kill me. He's got like a uh like a bolt or whatever in his abdomen. And Daniel routes him out. He's here, he's over here, and they come get him, and they got all these funky masks on because it was the 80s. Right. That was a funny one. See it later in the movie.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

I think also like it was awesome that they had a callback to that in the barn where Georgie shoots her. Right. Like it was like you can't even trust the kids in this family. And you want to. And you want them to.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

You want to think there's some innocence.

SPEAKER_06 33:00

Yeah, no, it's it's a great opening, and then obviously he gets got.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

Yeah, they drag him off, and Aunt Helene is uh shouting, but like, don't do it, and she collects herself and goes in and he's screaming and it's over. We jump to the mirror current day 30 years later. Thirty years later, Samara is marrying. Um she's in the room, his his childhood room, smoking, looking in the mirror, talking through getting married, and she's she's in it. She's all in it. She's in it. And he comes in and we look beautiful, so we get introduced to Alex as an adult. Um, the kid that was hidden in the wardrobe. And they, you know, they kind of do a little cutesy scene where you know they share a cigarette, they're in line.

SPEAKER_02 33:48

My family's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 33:50

He tries to give her an out, like dad's given her, is a rather sincere out.

SPEAKER_06 33:54

I mean, that was episode. She wouldn't really take it.

SPEAKER_02 33:57

Here's the thing.

SPEAKER_06 33:58

Got two outs.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

He'd never had to give her an out in the first place. He could have just broken up with her instead of getting out.

SPEAKER_06 34:05

Sure, and that will be in my diatribe later for sure. That's in my picking it for this one.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

He's he's I think though that that's meant to show us from the from the very beginning of the movie, Daniel is a protector and Alex is selfish.

SPEAKER_06 34:18

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 34:19

Those two things.

SPEAKER_06 34:20

Alex is not who we think he's. He's not a good person. Yeah. Right. And also Daniel chose trash that he doesn't really care. I'm not, I don't want to be mean to this character, but he chose somebody that he doesn't really love to be with and to marry, right? And instead of right.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

He could tell was morally corrupt, right? She was marrying him for his money. So if she has to run around and they have to kill her, that's a much better scenario than somebody that you actually care about who would be a wonderful mother and partner to you for the rest of your life. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 34:46

And Emily does the same thing. I mean, you can see that who does? The the sister fish. I mean, like the browiest bro of all, bro.

SPEAKER_06 34:55

So she wasn't alive for the previous game of so that one makes a little more sense, where it's like, you know, there might have been some love there, but he is a broy bro, bro.

SPEAKER_02 35:04

But I was gonna pick somebody to marry that I knew, like, I'm gonna have to kill him. This is Fitch is the guy.

SPEAKER_05 35:12

Yeah, it's an old maid.

SPEAKER_04 35:14

Yeah, I got chess. So uh Daniel comes in, we meet Daniel, and they, you know, kind of do like a brother and wrestling thing, and Daniel is like, you know, it's not too late. Few, you know, don't have to be in the family, and that's when the plot flaw plot flaw, plot hole hits me, is like they don't have to get married at all. No, it they can just be together, it ties itself up. It does, family would be fine, but not fine with it, but he wouldn't.

SPEAKER_02 35:39

There's another part that yeah, because they talk about how she was grew up in foster care. She pushed for the marriage, and rather than say, I can't marry you because I might have to kill you with my family, he was like, Well, I guess if you insist, hopefully I don't have to kill you.

SPEAKER_06 35:54

It does show that later. He goes, If I didn't ask you to marry me, you were gonna leave. If I told you this background, you were gonna leave. So that's more I was selfish, right? Right. So there's yes, at first it seems like a plot.

SPEAKER_04 36:07

Then he calls her out, she calls him out on it in that scene in the hallway a little bit, but then Oh, I love you, I love you.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

To me, one of the plot holes was this. So, you know, we haven't got there yet, but towards the end, whenever it becomes clear that she's gonna leave him anyway, he's just like, fuck it, let's kill her. I find it hard to I think that's fair. I find it hard to believe that he thought from the beginning, whenever he was like, get your shoes on, get your shoes on, that she was ever gonna do anything but leave him after that. Like, I can't believe he convinced himself that like But once again, it's the selfishness.

SPEAKER_06 36:40

It's like it's the you know, he that's a character flaw more than plah flaw, right? It's like uh she's going to appreciate that I saved her from this too, right?

SPEAKER_02 36:48

That's fair.

SPEAKER_04 36:49

I think he could have explained away not getting married, like we can't get married because my family is garbage, and there's so much stuff that's gonna come with he could have you know said, like, if we get married, then they're gonna make you sign all these preenumptional agreements, and we can still enjoy the family.

SPEAKER_06 37:04

I think that would have kicked the can't I think it would have kicked the decision down the road a little bit, but I still think you know I mean that seems like that's the way I would have gone as opposed to breaking up. I like to think everybody at the table would have handled this differently, but I mean so so it's happened once in 30 years that they've drawn that card. So he was also playing the odds, right? He's like there's gonna get checkers, she's gonna get chess, but I've got a thought on that towards the end, too. But where are we at on the on your d on your run through? They're getting married, they're getting married. Right.

SPEAKER_04 37:36

I think that Charles got the card because he was good. And she got the card because she was good. I agree. And Labelle, which is what did you find out about the anagram of it's a anagram for a demon.

SPEAKER_02 37:51

Um Bell Balael's emphasis. Balael. Okay, I think is the name of the demon. Yeah. It's part of the symbolism of the movie.

SPEAKER_04 38:01

Yes, if we want to do this now, we can do this now or later. Yeah, let's do it now. So it's a weed out the good so we can keep the family evil, or maybe this good person destroys the family. LaBelle wins either way.

SPEAKER_06 38:13

Or one more thought that I had was was Labelle is forcing them to actually realize that they're a bad person at the end, right? Like you're acting like you're better than this family and different than this family. Yeah. It's aunt.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

I think he was marked from the beginning because they do talk in the movie about how he's the only one that saw the table.

SPEAKER_06 38:34

And he was so much like Aunt Helene.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Right.

SPEAKER_06 38:37

Right? They they were so similar. So it was like both of them were conflicted with their role in the family. Yeah. But Labelle's like, you'll see, you're no different than anyone else.

SPEAKER_05 38:46

That's my like I missed all of this underlying symbolism when I was watching this.

SPEAKER_06 38:52

We watched the same movie. This is the one with the wedding dress, right? 17 wedding dresses used in this movie.

SPEAKER_02 38:57

I was gonna say the wedding dress is also part of the symbolism behind the movie because as like the innocence of the character sort of deteriorates, so does the dress. Like the dress is white and pure in the beginning, and then she has to rip part of it off. And when she rips part of it off, that is a symbolic of like taking her I I gotta do this shit. Like, I can't, there's no way out of this.

SPEAKER_06 39:20

No longer just blindly running and she's you know, stressed.

SPEAKER_02 39:23

Yeah, it's like I gotta make a plan here.

SPEAKER_06 39:24

She turned into Ripley or she's turning into another, you know, powerful protagonist, right?

SPEAKER_04 39:28

So they have that scene, and he that's when it's the the real, like you can still get out of this. My family's really fucked up. You can still get out. She's like, nah, nah, whatever. Oh, everyone would say that, blah, blah, blah, type of thing. They have the wedding, which they don't show.

SPEAKER_02 39:44

I love they don't show it. Same. Thank you for not making me watch that one. Right.

SPEAKER_04 39:47

Same we didn't have to see the vows.

SPEAKER_06 39:48

We saw pictures, but that's it.

SPEAKER_04 39:49

Right. And then there's the afterwards where they're taking pictures and stuff, and Aline's over there in that chair just fucking mean mugging her. Mugging like a little troll. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

Right. I mean, I feel like somebody would have gone over and been like, look, Aline. Hey, fix it. We gotta get through some of the stuff.

SPEAKER_01 40:03

We're gonna kill her tonight.

SPEAKER_02 40:04

We gotta keep her here long enough to do that.

SPEAKER_05 40:07

It was necessary for the line delivery for Daniel to be like, don't worry, she's just trying to find out if you're a money grubbing whore like my wife. Right. Right. You don't get that line without her staring at uh Grace.

SPEAKER_04 40:20

So then they're gonna go back to the room. Well, she talks to the mom. Oh, right. And you're you're kind of thinking, you know, Anna McDowell's character, Becky.

SPEAKER_06 40:29

It's judging her.

SPEAKER_04 40:30

Is kind of like on her side, like she might be a good person too, but then we later we find out. I mean, there's a reason why she got in the face.

SPEAKER_06 40:37

I'm also not a from a blue blood blood bracket.

SPEAKER_04 40:40

Right, right, right. So then they go back to the room and she's like, let's get this on, and and he's like, Get the pants on. Something we have to do, and then flash over to Eileen is just sitting there in the corner watching that.

SPEAKER_02 40:57

Yeah, Eileen's a total boner killer. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 40:59

Eileen, at least one little shag before midnight wouldn't have been bad, right?

SPEAKER_02 41:05

I don't know if they're allowed to consummate the marriage before they play the game, though. I think that's part of it. It might be. I mean, that might be.

SPEAKER_06 41:11

I don't know. They gotta play their cards right now. At midnight on the wedding day.

SPEAKER_05 41:15

You can do it before midnight, though. It's a secret door in his bedroom, too, which is like servants' corridors, he said.

SPEAKER_04 41:20

Like that's how they set all the corridors that they're gonna use later in the movie, right? And how people are gonna get around and be noticed and stuff like that. And how he's gonna get out of the the whatever the room is. He's like down in the music room. Oh, totally normal, totally normal room for people to have in their house. Second door on the right. So they go down there, the whole family's there. Oh, Emily and Fitch had shown up late, of course. Coked up.

SPEAKER_01 41:50

They had to stop at a dealer's house. Right.

unknown 41:52

Probably.

SPEAKER_04 41:54

And there's the doors with for the music room, and they go in, and the butler like kind of like locks them in, and so only family can go into this one room. So then the dad, you know, they all sit down, and you know, this is a family tradition where good story. It is, and he kind of lays it all out.

SPEAKER_03 42:15

That's why you need the right person to examine it. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:19

And the way he delivers it is so smooth, and you know, like it's it was it's real when he's when he's describing it. Wait a second. Are you saying are you asking if there's room in the fan club for you? No, I'm good. I'll join you.

SPEAKER_07 42:31

Thanks.

SPEAKER_04 42:32

So he describes everything, everyone's sitting around the table, and Aline is like We learned who LaBelle is, and right. They're passing the box around, he's like with the blank card. Very dramatic. And you, whatever the game is, you play it. And that's when Fitch is like, I got old maid. What the fuck is old maid? And what's her name got? Chess. It was chess.

SPEAKER_06 42:54

Which is, I think, a kind of hint on her, you know, navigating her way into that phase. Right.

SPEAKER_02 42:58

And I feel like to your point about the mom being not also from a wealthy background, I feel like she is that wife, Daniel's wife, is very similar to the mom. I feel like they're like sort of similar characters.

SPEAKER_06 43:15

Right. Maybe, maybe what is her, what is the mom's name? But uh Amy Becky. It doesn't look like a Becky.

SPEAKER_02 43:22

It doesn't, it's weird that her name is Becky.

SPEAKER_06 43:24

But yeah, she's nicer than uh Daniel's wife. Oh, R.

SPEAKER_01 43:28

Right. Oh, she's had kids. That's true.

SPEAKER_06 43:31

Years to embrace her role as that matriarch.

SPEAKER_04 43:34

And kind of like Mary and I were talking about it earlier when we were right after we had watched the movie today. The the female characters in this movie are the stronger characters by far. Daniel's wife, I mean, she's a gold digger, but she's after it. She's not going to be collected, right? Yeah. She wants to win the side. She wants to win the show. She's gonna do it. The women provide the strategy and like except for the system. Start freaking out later and Tony But look who she's married to. No, I'm just saying. And then Tony starts wigging out and she's like has to talk him off the ledge and like calm him down. So she's obviously the brain. Aunt Helene. Who, Mom? Yeah, mom. Mom, when she's like, Do you take a minute? Take a minute. But only a minute. Only a minute. Yeah. And Aunt Helene is obviously a force unto herself. She only answers to one person. That's nobody. Mr. LaBelle. So she pulls the card and it's hide or hide and go seek. And you can see it on everyone's face. Is that who it is? Right away.

SPEAKER_02 44:37

I loved when Aunt Helene was like, what's it say, girl?

SPEAKER_06 44:42

Oh, we forgot the brown haired niece line from Aunt Helene. That was great. Oh, hi, Aunt Helene. Hi, brown haired niece.

SPEAKER_03 44:51

Right.

SPEAKER_04 44:52

Great character. So I was looking at the faces, like everyone's, you know, kind of like, uh, oh shit. Shit just got real. Except for Aunt Helene. She got this tiny, tiny, out of the side of her mouth smile that was like, I don't know if she was like looking forward to killing somebody or like getting payback for her husband getting killed. But shit's getting real. And then dad pulls in composure and was like, Yeah, we're just gonna play high and go seek.

SPEAKER_02 45:23

And so that was my question. I mean, I feel like the first time I watched it, this the last couple times I sort of have some different ideas about it. But the first time I watched it, the one thing that I was confused about was Aunt Helene's motivation because she was so heartbroken by her husband being killed in the beginning that I was surprised she so like willingly participated in it. I and I I thought a lot about whether or not it was like for revenge or whether it was like I had to do it, now you're gonna get yours. Or I feel more and more like it was just like she came to understand like, well, this is what we gotta do, and I believe in it.

SPEAKER_06 46:05

I'm gonna say yes to all of what you just said. Yeah, I also I definitely think there was a bit of I was forged in this fire. I'm the only one who was sacrificed to the level that you know I know what this means more than any of you assholes, right? So this is getting done, and you can't object, nobody can object because you guys killed my husband.

SPEAKER_02 46:24

Also, can we just talk about when they selected weapons? Angeline picked an axe. Brutal motherfucking Viking axe.

SPEAKER_04 46:34

She like took that, like at that first scene where she's like trying to get her like savor her husband, and then she like pulls her shit together and goes in. She hardened her heart. She twisted all of that anger and energy and just went true believer, and this is how we keep the family going. I'm gonna be the one that keeps everyone on track, and on that she just refocused and might be the only way that she didn't kill herself throughout the the years to follow, right?

SPEAKER_06 47:02

To become that that super hardened fanatic, zealot, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 47:06

Yeah, she was in it to win it.

SPEAKER_06 47:09

In it for something.

SPEAKER_04 47:10

So we've done the game reveal. Right. They they tell the rules, you gotta stay inside the house. Are we really gonna play this? Yeah. And they're like, Do I do I Who hides? Do I hides? Well, who sees that? You're the new uh member of the family, so it's gonna be you, and you have to stay inside the house. And he's like, you know, can I win? And he's like, Well, you could stay hidden until dawn. And she's like, Ha, I don't want to do that. Yeah, like she still she does not know what's what's coming. Get it. Nobody would have known.

SPEAKER_06 47:39

You have the advantage, points at the cameras, and then they're like, nah, we follow the old school rules.

SPEAKER_04 47:43

Right, turn the cameras off, cameras off, locks down the house. For a minute.

SPEAKER_06 47:49

Later, they're like, I was gonna say, wouldn't grandfather want us to use the case.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

Which is also, I think, a commentary on how wealthy people will change the rules.

SPEAKER_04 47:57

So sort of and that's the movie is a commentary. One of the things they talked about is a commentary on just how the rules don't apply to the rich, and when you're at that level, the shit you can just get away with and no one ever questions. Right. So they start the record, count to 100, go high. Fantastic, right? We'll come and find you.

SPEAKER_02 48:17

I said, Have I heard this before? It sounds like the music and get out, but it's not the same song in the Get Out. Get out is the I got on it.

SPEAKER_06 48:27

Oh, that was us. Oh, us, that's what I meant. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I got you.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

So uh it's a different, but they're very similar.

SPEAKER_06 48:35

Yeah, that's I yeah, I agree. Yeah, it's creepy and somehow childlike and hor haunting at the same time.

SPEAKER_05 48:42

Justin, do you think all black horror movies look the same? Wow. Wow.

SPEAKER_06 48:48

I don't see movies with colors. We got our own card revealed.

SPEAKER_04 48:55

Okay. I'd like to claim shenanigans for that one. She goes off, the family loads up with the weapons, the brother Alex is told to stay in the room.

SPEAKER_06 49:08

Maybe you should just stay here.

SPEAKER_04 49:09

Charity was assigned to guard the door so he doesn't get out, and of course, that doesn't go well. And she goes, and Grace goes off and hides in the dumb waiter. Did she get hanging out in it?

SPEAKER_06 49:22

When she said, Do you want some company? Did you get the impression that she was like hitting on him? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

unknown 49:27

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_04 49:28

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_06 49:29

Thought so.

SPEAKER_04 49:29

Every time I see that scene in here, that line, I'm like, is she seriously hitting some company? Where his wife was also gonna die? Right. Okay. So she's out hiding, they get their weapons, they go out. There's a little scene where she's in the dumb uh waiter just talking to herself and decides she's been in there long enough and gets out.

SPEAKER_06 49:51

So how'd you spend your wedding night?

SPEAKER_02 49:53

I have a question. Do we think if she stayed on the dumb waiter, she would have survived all night? No, they would have because they revisit the dumb waiter several times.

SPEAKER_06 50:01

Let's talk about how easy it would have been to hide in this thing for six hours. Are we talking midnight to dawn six p a.m.? Six hours. What do you think? Six hours? Like even the spot where she walked out on this on the roof.

SPEAKER_02 50:13

Yeah, I thought that she could have just stayed there. Just stand there for a couple hours.

SPEAKER_04 50:17

Yeah. But I think they would have gone out and that would have been a good movie.

SPEAKER_06 50:20

It would have been a shit movie.

SPEAKER_04 50:21

I was thinking that that entryway or that service passage, servant passage that Alex and her are in, and he's explaining what's going on. She there was like stuff lined up and she's gonna go through the whole house on the other side. 10,000 square foot mansion. And they'd have been like, but she doesn't know about the servant passages. She wouldn't be in there.

SPEAKER_03 50:39

They would they wouldn't have found her.

SPEAKER_06 50:41

Right. Well, once is way too much. I think once they knew that Alex got out of that room, they also saw that the cameras were turned back on. So I think they would have put two and two together with the servant thing or the corridors, but maybe.

SPEAKER_04 50:52

Maybe. I don't know. There were no dogs. No dogs. Dogs would have been there and made it a quick movie.

SPEAKER_06 50:59

They were dog soldiers, though. Alright.

SPEAKER_04 51:02

So she's roaming around. She Alex gets her and pulls her in there. Alex gets her and pulls her in and gives her the lowdown. This is he was about to like tell her this is real and they're gonna kill you when Claire. Right. One of the Georgie gets out of bed and Claire's going to look for him. Fucking Georgie, man. Disappears for hours. Georgie. And then pops up outside with a flashlight. I don't understand that part. That was a little bit of a plot flaw, but I'm going to overlook it. And then pop.

SPEAKER_03 51:33

I got her, I got her. I got her, I got her. I got her, I got her, everyone come look.

SPEAKER_04 51:37

And Grace looks around the corner of the bed and sees the nanny or place. Clara. Claire with a sh bullet hole right in the eye.

SPEAKER_06 51:47

She's still kind of alive. Another example of running exposition dump because they all come in and explain exactly their motivations, right? Like we're she's listening the whole time behind the bed. So like we didn't have to see her figure it out in a different setting, right? It's a right.

SPEAKER_05 52:02

And they all said we had to keep her alive for the rich. Right. Why would you aim for the head? Does this count? No, of course it doesn't count.

SPEAKER_04 52:09

I love it.

SPEAKER_01 52:12

Stop asking if it counts. It doesn't count.

SPEAKER_03 52:14

Why does everybody ask and ask to be the bride?

SPEAKER_04 52:18

So, I mean, he dude didn't have to explain what she probably would not have fully comprehended or believed. She got it all in like 15 seconds. She knows what's going on. This is for real. She's freaking out.

SPEAKER_02 52:31

Didn't he bring her her shoes too? Or did he make her shoes? Get your shoes on.

SPEAKER_06 52:35

Get your phone, your keys, your shoes, whatever it was.

SPEAKER_02 52:37

Phones are gone.

SPEAKER_06 52:38

Phones are gone.

SPEAKER_02 52:39

Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert.

SPEAKER_04 52:41

So then she figures out about the he brings her into the servant passages and gets her up there. Tells her to go down the hallway. I gotta go in and turn off the security uh cameras and open the doors. Just go down to the end of the hallway. There's a door. Right. He should have said there's two doors. Yeah. It's the one on the right, not the one on the left.

SPEAKER_02 53:06

So the family is quick, you know, just I think he was trying to be quick, but in a house like that, you can't be non-specific about the library.

SPEAKER_06 53:15

And then hallway. This answers the audience's question too. Like, what could happen to them if they don't kill her, right? And he's like, I don't know. And then he lays out the urban legend style stories of Did you hear about the Vanderbilt or my uncle or my grandfather didn't draw the card and they died. So they got their cause died the next day.

SPEAKER_04 53:34

That didn't do it.

SPEAKER_06 53:35

Because, yeah, if they didn't play the game, they would have died. Right. Right, they were allegedly.

SPEAKER_04 53:41

Allegedly. It's a house fire. Oh, it wasn't the house fire. That's just what they told you. Right. So there was that before they left the room when they were still hiding behind the bed, the Tony and the Anne Helene are like heads or tails to drag the body off. And I mean, it's just like the small little things that add, you know, like a funny scary movie. Sociopathic delight. Do it right. It's really good. It is.

SPEAKER_02 54:05

And this movie had a lot of comedic relief. I think that's one of the reasons. I feel like, you know, I don't love scary movies. We talked about this. I think a lot of that is because of how like tense I get when I'm watching them. I think the comedic relief offers relief from that.

SPEAKER_06 54:20

So it was like true comedic jokes. It wasn't like we're not making fun of any other movie, like spoofs and stuff. It was funny within the framework that it was working in.

SPEAKER_02 54:30

I mean, the whole family dynamic is funny. You know, so yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:33

If I can laugh and be scared in 90 minutes, that's time worth it. Didn't you say cry too? Cry. Okay. So this is also when you kind of get the feeling that Alex is a complete piece of shit because they talk about you wouldn't have stayed. You wouldn't have stayed.

SPEAKER_06 54:52

Which automatically you didn't give me the choice.

SPEAKER_04 54:54

We get it. Yeah, we get it. But she kind of calls him out, like that's you know, you you're victim blaming, is what you're doing. You're blaming this on me. My life is in danger, not yours. And you're gonna call me out on it? Like, what kind of fucking? Because he said you wanted to get married.

SPEAKER_02 55:07

Right, right.

SPEAKER_06 55:08

Well, I didn't want to die. But it's so like you in.

SPEAKER_02 55:14

It is, it does clue you in.

SPEAKER_06 55:16

It's fantastic, you know.

SPEAKER_05 55:17

And I think that's chalk that up to just men saying stupid shit. Right.

SPEAKER_02 55:21

I don't know, dude. That's pretty like.

SPEAKER_06 55:25

Like I said, he was copying playing the odds, you know. He's like, there's no way they're gonna get the one back.

SPEAKER_05 55:30

As soon as he said it, he's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_06 55:32

He did.

SPEAKER_04 55:32

He did immediately be like, sorry, I'm sorry. But they're like, you know, I love you, love you. They parted, still in love. He went to go take out security.

SPEAKER_02 55:40

I don't know what if I would have been like, I love you and given you a kiss at that point. I would have been like, You better get me the fuck out of here. Like, I don't know what I think we're we say.

SPEAKER_04 55:48

Maybe not just going blah ba-blah-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.

SPEAKER_06 55:51

I think his line She's like, You're not gonna leave me. His line of I couldn't lose you, or you would have left me if I told you, like hit her kind of softer than we're taking it. Right, right, right. So I think at that time there was still hope for the two lovebirds.

SPEAKER_03 56:04

Right.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

But I also think that it would have been better for him if he had been like, you come with me, and we will get through this together.

SPEAKER_06 56:15

That would have been a different that would have come with me, we'll disarm the stuff, and then we'll I'll help you get to where you need to go.

SPEAKER_02 56:21

I will defend you against my family. Uh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 56:24

Right. Let's go back and get a couple guns.

SPEAKER_06 56:25

There's so what you're saying is he still had like one foot in both camps a little bit, you know. I mean, he did through the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 56:35

I'm not gonna put myself in harm's way to get you there. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:38

Because he does go and try to like get the doors unlocked to get the video turned off.

SPEAKER_04 56:42

He does what he says he's gonna do. Wrecks the security chokes out his dad. Yeah. Okay. Anyway. So he goes down, disables.

SPEAKER_06 56:51

He goes one way, right?

SPEAKER_04 56:52

Can't figure out how to open the doors at first, but figures it out.

SPEAKER_06 56:57

Because there's a note on the computer screen.

SPEAKER_04 56:59

She goes out in the end of the hallway and there's two doors. And it cuts to Anne Helene, Tony, right, and who else was with them? They were dragging Claire's body around. Daniel. Was it Daniel? Because Daniel's the one that's like, founder. Right? No, no, yeah, right. So the but the dad says we're never gonna find her. Because Helene, Helene, she could be anywhere. And she comes through the door and they all kind of look, and he's like, Found her.

SPEAKER_05 57:28

That was hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 57:28

I love that scene.

SPEAKER_05 57:29

That was so unexpected when it's like a chase movie and she's hiding. You think she's gonna be hiding the whole time? And then she just pops out in front of three of them. And then one's just like, and then another so good.

SPEAKER_02 57:40

For a split second, you're like, is it over?

SPEAKER_04 57:42

Like right. And then, of course, another surprise, Emily pops around the corner and just starts gating everybody.

SPEAKER_06 57:50

Does that gun carry that many rounds? I don't, I feel like that's like a two-shooter.

SPEAKER_04 57:55

You look like a four-barrel.

SPEAKER_06 57:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 57:57

Those who uh like a like kind of like a gathering that shoots one in one after the other. Yeah, she just bop bop bop bop bop bop.

SPEAKER_06 58:04

So yeah, her coming out exactly after she could have been anywhere, kind of line. And then earlier in the title card where Alex is like, Are you ready? And it just kind of cuts to the ready or not title cards. Like a lot of good placement and timing in this one.

SPEAKER_02 58:19

To your point earlier, really tight editing, too.

SPEAKER_06 58:22

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. Editing is underrated. Yeah. Little shout out to the editors. Shout out to my pre-cursor. I didn't know what movies the editors did before. So unheralded.

SPEAKER_02 58:35

We don't do a deep dive on the editors, our unheralded friends.

SPEAKER_05 58:38

Right. Editors are often a precursor for best picture winners. Like whoever wins like best editing at other award shows, since the Academy Awards are the last one. Often there's a correlation between those winners and the best picture winners.

SPEAKER_02 58:51

What about the Chainsaw Awards? Just in case anyone's wondering, Mike does our editing, so of course he's going to speak highly.

SPEAKER_04 58:59

Okay, so she gets away. They yell at Emily for shooting everybody at everybody. Settle down or whatever. And where where are we with this? Where does she go?

SPEAKER_06 59:09

She gets to the kitchen.

SPEAKER_02 59:12

She gets to the kitchen. No, no, that's where she gets to the building.

SPEAKER_06 59:15

This is where Daniel finds her in the building. Oh, that's right. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:22

Right.

SPEAKER_06 59:22

He's like, I'm not gonna ratch you, Al, but I can't just like let you go. So I have a theory, like we've kind of put everything anywhere. By sheltering Alex at the beginning, he actually like denied him that experience of knowing how to feel about that killing at the beginning. So I think he's always been protected his whole life, kind of thing. Right. So Daniel accidentally had Alex thinking he was a much better person than he was, right?

SPEAKER_02 59:49

So and I mean I think Daniel also had to absorb the guilt of ratting out Charles. I mean, he he had to take it all.

SPEAKER_04 59:56

Yeah, Georgie could have learned a lesson from that.

SPEAKER_07 59:59

Georgie wasn't around 40 there.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:00

Georgie, man. I mean, I'm gonna say Karma got Georgie later, Jackson. Okay, so there's the the scene in the billiard room where he's like, I gotta turn you in, but I'll give you a head start count to 10. And she takes off, and he's like, one, one thousand, two, one thousand, two and a half and a half, one thousand, and then calls. He called within it was probably about ten seconds. And then his wife comes in, and you kind of get the exposition exposition on their relationship.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:29

This was a weirdly sweet scene with the family, though, because they pass around that glass of they're all like, I need that drink, I need that drink. Right, right. I mean, none of them want to be doing this, but they do have a fear, a real fear for their life in there.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:42

And then Emily's like, Oh, I forgot my gun in the other room. Oh my god. So just as an excuse to go get a bump.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:51

Well, that she does that joke twice. I think the first time is just so she can go do a bump. Right, right, right. Then she does it again, like in the billiard room.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:59

So she gets the crossbow immediately. The other the second two of the three still alive maids slash nanny comes in the room and is about to be like, you know, I'm gonna tell you exactly where she is. She's like, I just saw, and then Emily pulls the trigger, bolt goes right into her mouth in the back of her neck.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:21

Why does this keep happening to me?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:22

Why does this keep happening to me? It's a great right. It's a great kill two people, and they're and then again is like, Does this count?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:30

And the data's like, aim for the center of gravity.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:33

Yeah, right, yes. And so Helene's trying to give her like her monologue, too. Like, no, it has to be, and like start gurgling.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:41

Yeah. And then she goes over with the axe and whacking.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:45

There was a oh she.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:47

I was like, there were a couple of times in this movie where I was like, and he's monologuing.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:51

Like yeah. So then she goes into the music room and arms up. She gets that wrong elephant gun. Elephant gun. Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:01

The size of the bullet that goes in that thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:03

Right gun, wrong ammo.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:05

The ammo is what was just for display. Display.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:09

But like, how would he know he's not allowed in that room? Yeah, like the dad pulled a gun right off the wall and it was uh butler's not allowed in that room.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:17

He must be the only help that's allowed in that room. Oh, maybe. But he was the piano player, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:22

He was the piano player, he was the topic member because he's playing, isn't he playing the piano? That's in the music room, not in the game room. Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:29

I feel like he has a very special relationship to the family that helps. He's always what's going on. He's that Alfred. Right. He's their Alfred. Right, right. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:37

Basically a member of the family.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:39

So she arms up, gets the kitchen. What's his name is still trying to talk about security and open the doors. And dad realizes it. So yeah, cameras go down.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:53

Wouldn't grandpa have used the cameras if they had them back on his own.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:59

Grandpa would have wanted us to do this.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:00

Well, just do the weapons. Pick and choose. Pick and choose. Don't you care about tradition?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:06

That's the best. So she's in the kitchen. She's in the kitchen. Cat mousing it. Right. And you know, tries to silently arm Alpha Gun. The largest ammo human can carry and shoot into a loud ass gun. And uh Stevens is in there just like whistling.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:26

Like in going off. Yeah. So he's whistling his overture. And then he hears her and he stops whistling briefly.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:34

Walks around, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:35

Then he's like and goes immediately back to whistling. And I was like, I feel like if I thought I heard something, I'd be done whistling.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:42

Well, the first time he hears the click, he does go around the back. But then he goes back. But then the second time he's just like, I'm hearing shit. Nah, I'm just hearing shit. So then he goes back to Alex in the security room. He finally gets the doors open.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:57

He walks over to look at him.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:59

The butler goes over to look. But does the scene with the brother with Daniel and the dad happen before the uh around the same time? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:09

Well, I mean they're happening at the same time, but like I think she goes to because Alex is watching on the screen. He sees that she's behind the table and everything. So I'm gonna assume just for the to move this along, that she in front of the butler before they choke out dad or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:28

The door opens, he goes over to the door, she gets up, move, squares up, says move, he turns around slowly, but then he's like, you know, that's not true. He knows that gunning doors. And she's like, move. She doesn't like bear down or make a face, like click. I had to give somebody a shot a few times.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:53

Not after I saw somebody get shot in the face.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:56

I couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:57

What do you mean? At first.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:58

Oh, it took a while. I had to like build up to it. What do you Mary remembers that?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:02

Because I had to give the shot to Mary. You're saying that she wouldn't have been that.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:05

Oh, I mean, she just pulled the trigger with a I think once I think she would have like pinched up face. I think once she ripped her dress, she could do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:13

I feel like at that point, adrenaline was pumping so hard that she was just like, I see the door.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:19

Yeah, I gotta get out. But it clicks, and the butler's like, it's just for display ammo. Goes after her. Do you think I'm stupid?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:26

She hits him with the pot.

unknown 1:05:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:29

And then he goes after her.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:30

She teapots into the head.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:32

Teabags him. I mean teapots him.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:34

He really uh takes a beating in this movie. He's one of those characters like the bar oh God, the the guy who works at the strip club and the Sopranos who gets beat up like this poor guy is that. He like just keeps getting beat. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:50

Like Jason and I don't feel bad for him. Friday 13th part two.

unknown 1:05:54

Jeez. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:55

Oh yeah. So she gets out the door. Does she get out the door? No, no, no. She has to run the other way because He starts knifing like Navy SEAL knifing at her. Yeah, he's just blind knifing, so she takes off again. She gets out A door, doesn't she? Isn't that a little bit more? That's how she gets to the barn. That's when the sister jumps out the window.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:13

Remember, okay, so there's a fight scene where Alex.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:18

Alex jumps out Dad, but then Daniel knocks him down.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:22

We don't have to do this. They drag him upstairs, handcuff him to the bed. And then she was right outside the window.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:29

Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:30

And that's when we get another monologue from Anhelene about how much he's like her. Like he needs he's gonna be the one that goes out. He's gonna be the one to lead the family.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:39

And it seems like she can hear that whole conversation. She's right outside that window, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:44

And he was faking being asleep, so he heard it too. Because he's like, he kind of has like a look afterwards, like and I think that's the turning one of the turning points where the dark side gets him. I don't think yet.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:58

I think it's the beginning. I don't think yet.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:59

I think it's the beginning.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:00

I think after his mom comes in and talks to her, well, was that then too the same conversation, or right after Helene left, Becky came in and said, you know, I think you love your family more than you think. So maybe there was a little bit of doubt in his mind creeping in. Yeah. And he's like, if you if you hurt her, I'm gonna kill you.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:17

And he said, and that and right before she leaves, she says, I know you don't believe a girl you've known a year and a half. You know, a girl you've known only a year and a half more than your family.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:29

I know you better, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:30

Yeah, or that yeah, she knows you better than me.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:32

Like she's two years old. She's in a good hiding spot. She may have just stayed there long. Should have died. No, we cut the fitch.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:38

Fitch on the toilet.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:40

On the Google searching is Billbilly Grossbows. Devil worship, curse, real. He didn't say too whatever he dad gave it to him.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:49

He was like, How old is this thing?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:51

Oh, and then the mom tells him at one point, you know, I never really liked you, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:56

And then he's like, How do you use this? And like points it at her and she has to push it away. Right, right. She's a killer, she's great.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:03

She's very nice at first, you think, but yeah, she's a killer.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:06

Oh, she she delivers one of the meanest lines in the movie later.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:10

Yeah. So Fitch is Googling the thing. His boy texts him, and he's like, Oh, not much. He's like, What's up? He's like, not much.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:21

Family shit. And then she's like falls, jumps down of the bushes, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:26

Like, just drops like a sack, and you hear like a plop, and he's like looking around, like what? And then she like stands up all woozy behind him. He just kind of like stumbles off out of frame, which is really cool. So she's outside, she's running around.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:42

Girl, girl clocks her, though. The sister-in-law clocks her as the very up, and then just you and then you hear the bird though.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:52

It goes like up into the tree, and then you hear like it was great.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:56

It was just like so many parts. So she's running around. It's the barn. She's behind the tree. There's a flashlight in the background a little bit, you don't know who it is. She sees the barn, goes in the barn, and the barn is just full of goats.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:10

Full of goats.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:10

Full of goats. Which is odd. They're not farmers. No.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:14

But they do require goats.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:16

They do. And so she hides them.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:17

They make the best cheese. That's what they're all about that goats.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:22

I can't live my life without goat cheese. Queso dip. Or a nice brie and fig jam. Yeah. So she hides them on the stalls. Flashlight person comes in, kind of searching around. Stupid joys. There's this weird, like raised wooden thing with doors on it. And I didn't know what it was.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:40

I didn't know what that was at first, and then when we find out what it is, I'm like, why is that a thing? You guys are so proud. You guys don't have a goat pit? Like the wealthy don't have to hide shit. Yeah, making that point.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:51

Yeah. Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:54

I I it's a pit, right? For dead goats.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:56

Yeah, for dead carcasses and Charles was in there.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:59

Yeah, Charles is in there. So she's in the thing. She sees it's Georgie. And at this point, every time I see her, the fuck is Georgie. Georgie's been running around for hours. Mm-hmm. And somehow outside, in his pajamas, still barefoot, with like a little snub nose 38. That's from that's from his mom's purse. All right. What are you doing out here? He levels up on her, shoots her right through the hand. You see through the whole Dust Till Dawn moment there. Oh, definitely. We get the Samara weaving. Great scream. Great scream. Sing scream, like a scream I've never heard before.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:37

And then though, when she fucking clocks him in the face.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:40

I laughed so hard.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:41

It was amazing. Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:45

How else are you supposed to react to that?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:47

I was waiting for like a curb stomp finish.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:49

When I first saw that, I was like, that little motherfucker shot you in the hand.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:52

Finish him. Get a good punch. And like why did she stumble backwards? Why did she stumble back? Why did she stumble backwards?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:00

I don't know, but this my least favorite part of the movie is the goat pit scene. When she falls in, realizes that she's in a sea of maggots and goat and decomposing.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:12

I was like, the smell has to be horrendous. Two seconds later she's mute.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:17

That is on point. Oh she's done a sepsis in a week. She needs to get that thing. Backs up against the wall, kind of sitting and looks over, and there's Charles, still in his tucks, with the spear gun bolts sticking out of his skeleton.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:33

That's the laziest way to dispose of a body to just throw it in the pit with the goats that we're sacrificing every so often because Alex references that. Not until later. No, no, no. Earlier when she was like, Why'd you leave? He said, I woke up one day and realized that's right. You know, cutting the throats of goats and dancing around wasn't normal.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:51

But the scary part was that I thought it was normal. So then he's like, No, I gotta get out.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:55

So we learned like the goats are, you know, sacrificial. She was startled by a goat.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:59

That's how she falls in the room.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:00

Oh, you're right. Oh, that's right. Those stupid goats. Yeah. The goat from the witch got her.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:04

So then she's gonna climb out this rickety ladder that the first run of the race and she tries to get up. She's one-handed. She's super stressed. Guarding herself up one-handed. Like those movies where people get shot in the shoulder and they're like fighting and running around and stuff. You get shot in your pinky toe. Your whole body's gonna be on fire. You're gonna screw up. Sorry, weather's begs to differ.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:25

As we know from our last episode. Lose an arm, I'll just shoot you with this one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:31

But so she has a hole in her hand, right? She's trying to climb up. I don't know about you guys, but as soon as you saw that nan, yeah, I knew exactly what it was going to be. You made a point to show that big ass nail.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:41

She gets up and oh my god. That is like the worst part of the entire movie. Terrible. You know it's coming. Good thing she had a hole in her hand.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:49

She literally punches a child. And this is the worst part of the movie. Children blow up later. That's right.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:55

And this is still the worst part of the whole movie. So she reaches up. The ladder breaks breaks away. She's about to slip and fall, reaches up with her hand with a pre-made peg hole to grab onto, and did it. Did it and pulls herself out, and then she just and I like the way they that she was sitting there for a few hanging on for a few seconds, and you know it's coming, and she's building up to it, and you're like, Oh, just do it, girl, just do it. And then she pulls it off, and then we get the scream again. I mean, the scream is is a character unto itself in this movie. And the dress and the house. And the dress and the house. Yes. And Aunt Helene's battle axe. And the crossbow. We'll get to props later. Okay. Okay. So she comes out of there, she screams. Where are we at? Everyone's looking still looking at the floor.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:44

She spreads towards the fence. No, that's when she got no shot at by the with the spear gun or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:53

Right, right, right. So she's heading, and then they say she comes. Charity's like, She's in the woods. She's in the woods heading towards North Gate or North Fence. If she gets to the fence, she sees a car coming. She has to break.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:05

I mean, she's a poor woman. She has to get through the gate with a piece of the iron decorative iron work together.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:16

Like another screen. She gets through, and of course, the dumb rich guys and the doomerati or whatever. Aston Martin$500,000 car. Get on the fucking road.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:30

You don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:33

Like a Dennis Leary level ranting cussing thing. I want you to do it. I want you to do it. She just like Mother Effins.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:41

Motherfucking the dick lick. And she just fucked you.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:46

And then she's running. She's running. Running. Running. Butler boy knew she was where she was heading. Yeah, and he smiled.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:55

When he found out she's headed towards the north fence, he was smiling. He was ready. Yeah. Driving. Because he was Harvey Dent Too Faced.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:01

Sees where she came through the fence. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the wedding dress. Wedding dress is a problem for her. Like, here's another thing. I think they should have let her change her entire clothes before they started this.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:13

That would have been nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:14

Right? Like, if we're playing fair, like running shorts.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:20

Charles and their stuff. That's true. That's true. In the beginning scene.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:26

That's true. We did leave out one hilarious part when the uh butler walks into the room and Adam Brody's like, oh man, ouch!

SPEAKER_04 1:15:33

He's giving shit about it. He's just like taking it, too. And when he leaves the the room, he like puts his hand up so he doesn't have to look at his face. The T bird. Okay, so then he stops, grabs her. They fight. They fight.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:52

She gets the upper hand. She kicks his ass, gets the car, and drives. Chokes him out, thinks he's dead.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:58

She should have taken a little more time to make sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:00

Should have. And like this is like you were saying, another plaflaw. Like, how so quickly is the car reported stolen?

SPEAKER_06 1:16:08

He didn't have a cell phone. He wakes up as she's pulling off, so maybe he did.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:12

Got his ass beaten.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:13

No, he did have a cell phone because he he pops it up on the dash, right? Right later. So he could have reported it stolen, but it would have taken at least two minutes.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:22

She calls Justin on the I know there's a Justin in this thing. She's like, help me, Justin, get the cops. Sorry, my name is Justin. How can I help you? It's the cops, get the cops.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:32

She's like, fuck you, Justin.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:34

Sorry, man. This car has been reported stolen. Shut it down. You don't have to use obscenities, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:40

Right. Yeah, there's no reason for obscenities.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:42

I mean, in true Justin fashion. You know, you don't need to use obscenities.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:45

I do have to say though that I think that like this is a very loose part of the movie because I also think that people who steal cars don't often call the emergency services and ask them to send the police. Right? Like so there are a lot of pieces of this that I was like, it didn't work out that way. It's satire. Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:04

It's it's like a hey, it's a yeah, uh you're not empowered to make decisions. You don't have to be able to do that. Nobody's gonna come and help you. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:11

And I think so. I'm excited to see the sequel to this. And there are so many little things, I don't think they did it on purpose, that are in this movie, and this being one of them, that's planted to where I think they're gonna use it in the second movie to describe why the police don't show well, they do at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:31

Oh, they do they do at the end.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:33

Maybe but we never see them.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:34

Yeah, we do, and that would be that too at the end.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:38

And I think this society that gets her in the starting in the second movie, like this wasn't like just some. I think they're gonna they could use that in the be like they have this is when we have notified that shit was going sideways.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:53

My understanding, and I could be completely wrong about this because I don't work for the production company. We don't but and I have only seen a a trailer, but I feel like I read that one of the premises for the second movie. Plug your ears, spoilers, is that the house or the whatever actually belongs to the servants. The servants are part of the society, which would make sense then why the butler is so all in.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:20

There's a larger society of people that have made deals with the devil and they were part of it, and that's the premise for the second movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:29

Let me know when it's safe to come back.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:30

Really looking forward to the second movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:32

Oh, and Frodo's in it, so yeah, yeah. So it's Buffy and Frodo and another callback. Sean Haddisy from Faculty is in it, I think. Yeah, right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:41

Okay, so where are we? She, the car gets shut down. Fuck you, Justin. Yeah, right? Okay, Justin, after yourself. And then Butler, like, but she was driving fast. I know. He's for C1000. And then he's just there. And he has a dart gun at this time. Not that not the first time, but now he does. We're approaching the South Gate. Darts are ties her up.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:02

We don't see her see him tie her up, but she's tied up in the back seat at this point.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:05

And he's I also gotta think she stays out longer than this.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:08

She would.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:09

Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:10

But maybe maybe it just kind of like nicked her or something, went through. Who knows? We need it for the movie. Will Farrell wasn't out that long. He maybe LaVale helped her out too. I love you, but you're crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:24

So are we doing Buffalo Bill? Are we doing it? In the room. Those on a FaceTiming Steven, who's got Grace in the back seating overture. Bringing her home. Everyone's celebrating.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:36

I feel like there's some commentary here too about how like it got really hard to do it, so they sent the help out to finish. Yeah, so yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Yeah, the help doesn't work out.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:45

They can't mention it. Do you think the other one, the one that was alive, do you think she'll clean her up? Or who's gonna clean the shit up next?

SPEAKER_05 1:19:50

That's another one of my nitpicks. There's a few scenes where like they see her and she just like darts out of the room to go run, and like they don't chase, they're like, Oh, she got away again. I'm like, if you chase, I think right there. When you're in like the first 30 minutes, but they're just like, but they're just like someone else will get her because they're just assuming it's someone else will do the work.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:11

They like and I think nobody but Aunt Helene and Emily really want to have to be the one that does it, right? Like Emily's trigger happy, she wants to fucking kill somebody, and she's that's charity that we're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:23

Well, like I said, all the female characters are the strong characters in this movie. Coat that one. That's the only one.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:29

But even she was like, I'll give it a try.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:32

Oh, yeah. We missed the third and final uh maidslash name getting it in the dumb way to getting caught.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:39

Oh, I hate that scene too. I don't like it.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:42

They actually were pretty merciful with what they showed on that one. Yeah, she was in there.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:46

She's like, I'm so scared, I don't know what's going on, and then immediately rats her out.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:50

So they could have split her, they could have like done some Emily.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:55

Should have been the one to kill her, though.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:56

I'm just saying that. Yeah, yeah, it would have been better if she had killed them all. That would have been great if she accidentally hit the dumbway with it.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:02

It was a good gag.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:03

And like she if she's pulling her out, like, oh I'm sorry, and like she hit the dumb way.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:06

But there was a fight between Emily and Grace, and then she elbowed the thing while she was trying to get out and they crush her. I agree.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:13

Or like the head is out, but it falls and like the chops her head off or something.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:18

Okay, so we are with Steven and Grace coming back, and Steven.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:22

She's hallucinating because she thinks Daniel's in the car and they're going home and all that. That was kind of sad.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:27

Yeah, and then he cranks it up to 11, and the family sees her in the background getting up, and they're like, Stephen, Stevens, get up behind you. And she gets up there and gives him the business and I assume that's the end of Stevens, but we don't know for sure. I think he has a seatbelt on top of the city. I even checked to see if he's yeah, they flipped over the car.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:52

He's got the Mike Myers. They're kind of like weirdly in the woods.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:55

Livability, like uh no fence, like they didn't go through a fence. There were other fences, they were approaching a fence. They're on a huge property.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:03

Yeah, but I think they would have crashed through a fence. They're on the property again. Right. The brother, she you know, we don't know how happens to Stevens. She comes to, she gets out, and Daniel's there. She crashed into his serenity.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:16

Right. He was just out milling around, I guess. Yeah, they were just finishing up putting the bodies in the goat pit. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:22

So they were closer to the one moment when she first gets outside and you kind of see her reflect because the wedding venue is the yard. Right. And she goes out there and she kind of looks around, and you can kind of see in her head, like she's like, How the fuck did I get here from the eight hours ago, yeah, whatever. We were getting married.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:40

Yeah. So Daniel's there, coincidentally, and they have a brief, you know, you're not a bad guy. And he's like, Well, I have to, it's my family. Right. I can't let you live. It's gonna cost me my entire family. And then knocks her out with the the butt of the gun, and then his dad was there the whole time, tells his dad to come out.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:00

One important thing that we slipped by was them finding Georgie in the the goat pit when they were dropping off the bodies in the barn. Yeah, in the barn. And basically it was I wanted to shoot her, everybody else was trying to do this, right? kind of thing. And this was after she said, My kids don't deserve to die. But then it was a quick, well, maybe they do Georgie because Georgie's there.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:24

Right, because they did have that conversation of like, well, you know, you all deserve this kind of thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:28

Yeah, we all deserve this as a family, but my kids don't.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:30

He's a ladoma, whatever Fitch's last name is. I kind of feel like they would have made Fitch changes last night. Right. That's a I don't one of those families. Okay, but yeah, so so they got her.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:48

I also think Daniel only did that because Oh, he knew. Yeah, he knew his dad was watching, and I think his dad probably would have killed them both.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:54

And he knows about the ceremony, he knows they drank from that chalice. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:58

So he starts the contingency planning, I think, at that point.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:00

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:02

So was there another conversation between Daniel and Alex after they get back?

SPEAKER_06 1:24:08

Not that I know of.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:09

I don't think so. So they got her in the room, they got her tied up and they're doing their ceremony and they're doing their chanting because the devil likes Latin for some reason. Devil loves him some Latin. They're passing around a chalice of could be blood.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:23

We don't know. Don't know grape juice. The face fitches suggest that it doesn't taste very good.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:28

Must be malort.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:30

Malorc.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:32

Devil loves malort.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:34

Everyone takes a drink except Daniel. Daniel. And then they've they're getting to the end of the thing, and Tony raises up the knife, goes the hills, and stops, and then everyone starts puking. And it looks like they're puking on blood.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:49

They are puking blood because it's hydrochloric acid.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:52

Hydrochloric acid. But she googled, like, goddamn, they might they're gonna shit weird for you. Hey, where are you gonna get hydrochloric acid?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:59

Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:00

Rich people are different than the rest of us.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:01

Yeah, but wouldn't you have like roofies or something else you could have laid on a smash up? I think the time wasn't it.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:07

They would have remembered roofies take a long time.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:09

Yeah, and we were on so much coke.

unknown 1:25:11

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:12

Hydrochloric acid wasn't gonna do shit or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:14

Well, but she had had an edible to level her out.

unknown 1:25:17

Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:18

Still make her puke the blood, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:20

So Daniel cuts her loose. Annaline yells. Charity gets out there. They're getting away, and Charity comes out with a gun and is like, let get out of the way. She's like, he's like, you don't have to do this. Like, just you know, let her go, and she fucking shoots him right in the neck. Yeah. Right. And but she's still even charity was kind of like long enough for Grace to go get her and pistol whip her so hard.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:53

Well, tried to shoot her, but all the bullets were gone. Yeah, fun line that Grace had said to Daniel. He's she said, I knew you were gonna save me, and he said, I didn't. So you know, it's like a that little bit. That was before he got it. So she's getting did the dad come out and she whips his ass too? She whips his ass with some kind of like lantern. The lantern.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:16

Yeah, she picks up the lantern because he's like, fuck it. I'm not gonna wait for the ritual, I'm gonna do it right now. And she picks up the lantern and hits him across the face. A couple times.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:27

And then they have the fight, the mother fight in the room or no, in the the room with the table. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:36

That they all do. Did it have a ping pong racket on it? I was like, what is that on there? But anyway. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:40

I assume it's the game room.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:41

Yeah, it's the game room. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:43

No, it's not the game room.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:44

It was where the box is. Yes, it was where the box is. She pulls it off the table on that runner. No, table run.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:49

It was a small runner. Remember the table run? But it was a rectangular table, and the game room had that big screen. I think it was just well lit, don't you think? Or no? Who knows? Unknowable.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:58

Jinx, take it. Damn it.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:00

You guys. So the mom is beating her. And this is where you you full-on realize my mom is just as bad as a rhythm style. No matter how sweet she sounded.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:09

I don't think she ever sounds sweet. I think what she sounds is somewhat.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:13

She wants to welcome her though. She was welcoming though. She wants a ticket for Alex, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:19

She wants Alex back in the family. That's all she cares about. Right. She does not care about anything else except for all of the family surviving this and Alex coming back to them.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:30

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:30

Make it a double head.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:31

And so I don't think she ever seemed sweet to me. She seemed to me very concerned about her son.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:35

Right? Yeah, and right.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:36

Not in a like a snotty, better than you elitist kind of way. That's what makes me feel like it was kind of sweet.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:44

I didn't feel like it was sweet. I felt like it was manipulative, I guess, is what I'm saying. I didn't get like, I like you and I care about you and I want to welcome you to the family. I got like, you are something that I need in order to get this other thing that I am entitled to. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:58

So she delivers the heart. Line in the entire movie, right before she gets hit by the box. She says, You don't deserve a family.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:06

Yeah, she does to a foster kid. And a foster kid. And I think that she knew that. That would be the most devastating.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:14

Yeah, she's full on dark side at that point. Right. So gets her down, choking her, she gets that runner, pulls over the box, does the classic, just out of reach, but eventually gets it and just smashes on her in the head and then just I assume smash her head until she is completely blood force trauma to the head. Right. Alex walks in.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:35

Alex has to pull her off, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:37

And that's when Alex is. Oh, he had already seen. Like he was he threatened to kill his own mother. He said he hated his family and loved Grace, but at this point.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:47

At this point, his moral compass is gone. He's gone. David is dead. He's gone. Or Daniel. Daniel. Daniel's dead. That was his moral compass. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:55

And then he didn't know what happened, so maybe he thought she did it. Maybe maybe she killed. And then he killed his mother.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:03

That a part of it. You know, I'm glad that they didn't make it. Did you kill my brother? I'm glad they skipped all that. I am too.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:08

Because it really didn't matter. He wanted her dead for a number of reasons at that point. It wasn't just that she killed Daniel.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:13

Like I think Daniel's gone, so once he realized that she flinched when he reached for her, I think it was it was over. It was.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:19

And the fact that he walks in and sees that she had just killed his mother.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:22

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:23

And I think that he knew at that point that she wasn't coming back to him, no matter like if they both lived or not.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:28

The idea of killing your mother is different than seeing your mother dead on the ground.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:31

Because it turns out when his mom said, Do you really think a girl that knew you for a year and a half knows you better than me? She was correct.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:39

Yeah. Yeah. So uh make amends with your moms because Alice is gone, and um, yeah, she does the flinch thing and he puts one hand on her head and then put the other hand on the head. I'm like, Jason's squeezing, you're hurting me. And then they she's captured. She's in here. Yeah, she's captured again. Back with Aunt Helene. Aunt Helene is having a fit. She wants a few people cannot get this. Right. So they just throw her up on the table. Impromptu. Holding her down. Preaching. Alex has got the knife this time. They're gonna make it.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:12

Angeline says both the boys have to take their place to fill in for the ones that are dead, right? Basically.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:17

And Alex is on board and he's gonna kill her for Satan.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:21

I think they're still like she was in shock, but I still think maybe until he actually brought the knife down on her, that maybe there was a path for them to get out. I'm not sure though.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:33

But that it that really ensured that uh yeah, you were gonna kill me.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:36

Once he brings her back to that room. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:39

You think from that? No. I mean, therapy, right? No. No. No. God knows. Can you imagine that? I know he brought me back to the murderous family. Can you imagine that? Now, Grace, how did that make you feel?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:53

Okay, so she's on the table, he's gonna stab her. They're all they just quickly go through the ceremony. Hell Satan. He goes to stab her, she twists, gets her on the shoulder. Everyone else kind of freaks out a little bit. She gets up, grabs the knife out, and she's just like fending people off with the knife. Wild animal. Right. Like a wild animal. And then they notice that the sun is coming up or is is already up. And she opens the blind and bitch flinches like a vampire.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:22

They all do like in the in Terminator 2, the dream sequence of playground where the bomb goes off and everybody ducks for cover. That's what they all do. It's like and then they're just like, nothing happened.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:37

And then they're all like, Oh, nothing I think. And Fitch is like, I knew it was bullshit. Who told you?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:43

Because he tried to Google it.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:44

And then who was the Fitch was the first to get it? No, no, it was Ann Helene was the first. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:51

Because she gets the night the axe and goes to the city. What are we gonna do about her? Yeah. And then at the same time, she's like, I know we failed you, but the girl must die.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:59

She starts apologizing, like, we sorry, we messed up, and we'll kill her anyway. Don't worry.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:06

Right. The girl must die. Runs at her with the axe.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:09

Anile exposed with great.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:13

I was like amazing. Wow. In the theater, it was perfect.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:19

I feel like then everybody starts realizing, oh shit, we're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:24

Finch comes like, I think he was right. And then he's right, and then boom, he pops. And then the two Emily runs out with Emily runs two girls with the two kids. And they go pop pop. They pop in the hallway to see the kids.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:37

The dad picks up the box and tries to charity.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:40

Charity. She's like, I just want to go home. I just want to go home. Pop. And then the dad's like, I am in control. I am in control. Blah, blah, blah. Pops. Pops. Then it's just Grace and Grace and Alex. And Alex is like, I'm so sorry. You didn't take me.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:56

You didn't take me.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:57

And she's like, fuck you. And she's kind of like laughing. Yeah, because she's like giggling when people started popping.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:03

Right? Like at this point, a relief.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:08

She's beyond in shock. Right? Like, were you guys at the point when you're watching this for the first time? Would a non-explosion like that would have been hilarious, but I think the delay, like where we they thought nothing was going to happen, and then the explosions was even was perfect.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:24

I mean, it was like the devil. The whole time they're just like, We're gonna die if we don't do this. We're gonna die. They're not like we're going to spontaneously explode. Right. Right. Like they're just like, we're gonna die.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:35

So the callback was go ahead, Mike Stark.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:37

Well, yeah, so you just think like, are they gonna collapse? Like, if this actually happens, do they just collapse? Do they you know have an aneurysm, whatever? Not like not just like spontaneous.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:48

But the dad, when he was saying somebody said it sound like they died in a fire, didn't they? He goes, It wasn't a fire. You don't want to know. Later knows what happened to him.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:58

They pop, yeah. I think Daniel does. I think when they're in the the goat barn or whatever, he's saying, you know, people imploding or exploding or something. Like they threw it away. It was like a throwaway, but it was a reference. And then the record starts playing again from the beginning. Maybe the tables are turned, you know, it's different people that are running and hiding. Houses on fire. Yep. House is on fire, house fire.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:17

I think also the popping is like part of the comedic, like it was so funny.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:23

I can imagine them sitting around, how do we kill them? And they aw. So Radio Silence, they they don't like to do a lot of CGS stuff. So, like when they do it and it's perfect and it fits within like the practical stuff they're doing, it just worked out great. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was it was perfect.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:38

So then it's just the two of them left. He's trying to get back in Grace's good graces, right? So I did that. She's fuck it, not having it. She's like, fuck you. She's giggling as everyone pops, and then she takes her wedding ring and her engagement ring off. She says, I want a divorce, throws it, like tosses it, and as soon as it hits him, pop. Perfect. He's gone.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:01

Perfection. Having him pop as the ring hits him, as if the ring made him explode. Oh, perfect.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:07

Does it make you wonder if it was her choice at the end if he was going to die at all? No, there's any doubt as to the order of them dying. I mean, or Labea wanted her to have her final moment with him before.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:21

I think that that it's that because I think the whole purpose of it, I don't think that he would have had to go through that if she had been given the choice.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:28

Okay. Do you think that they had a choice to honor honorably accept the results of the game she won, and uh Aunt Helene running at him with the battle axe trigger? Okay, so you're gonna die. Disrespecting the you don't think there was anything like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:45

Nah, I think I think it was you lose.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:48

Yeah, that's the game.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:50

We just want to differently they bought in. They know the rules, but we're to assume that's the thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:55

I would assume that everybody that lost had a similar reaction and you know tried to continue the game afterwards. But I don't know. You know, it's unknowable. It's unknowable.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:05

I am interested in the second movie. I hope they do a good job with it because I think that this movie was so perfect on its own, it didn't need a sequence. I agree, and so I'm a little bit worried because I don't want them to be campy, I don't want them to over-explain things and then create more plot holes that I don't, you know. Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:27

I mean, it's at least it's the same directors on this one. It's a delicate web to weave.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:31

And they brought back the same writing team, same director.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:36

Yeah. All right, so we're gonna have to tell you.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:39

The fireman rush in. She's out in the front smoking the cigarette, sitting on the stoop of the mansion. Oh, she's drenched in blood. So dresses.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:49

Like I said, there were 17 dresses they used, some that were shorter than others, some that had goat blood, some that had human, some that had human and goat blood. Like they had to be.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:09

You know, what happened to you?

SPEAKER_06 1:37:11

She's like, In law-laws. Why'd she lie to the mom? Because she wanted to make an impression. I think so. I wanted that too. That's that whole, like, you know, you want to look better.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:21

And I kind of I kind of also felt like the mom knew she was lying to her.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:24

I kind of got that, that there was some tension there.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:26

It's like a whole, we know this is a classy family, and I wanted to be seen as a smoker, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Sorry, that was the beginning of the movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:33

So, roll credits. I mean, there's a little part at the end where they play the the song again, but there's no after credit scenes or anything like that set up for another movie. We know there's another movie. Hopefully, yeah. Hopefully, it's good. Hopefully. Hopefully. All right, let's get in some particular some questions. This is a tough one. Which kill was best?

SPEAKER_05 1:37:58

I mean, I'll start. I can't I don't know if the entire last sequence there can count. Or no. No, okay. That's too many. Maybe then the Aunt Aunt Helene, because she's the first one. That's the first one. When she explodes, it's totally unexpected.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:13

And she has like real momentum. It's totally unexpected. Real momentum going towards her with an axe.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:17

And so just exploding in the thin air was like, holy shit. And she was the first one. Your guard's a little bit let down.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:24

What did it happen? And then I throw out a candidate. I don't know if it's mine, but the second maid to get the bull to the case. Which ran in the pattern, which made her scream. Why does this always happen? Why does this always happen? And she gets her head chopped off by Emily. A lot of good stuff. That's the one I was going to go with. But the first pop is really good. The first pop is great.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:45

First nanny slash maid that gets the first one in the face. Because after that, I to me, one of the funniest parts was every time somebody found out she was dead, they were like, She was my favorite. Right. Like, I don't know. And it also kind of like showed her, like, oh, something very serious is going on here.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:03

Instead of, yeah, being told, being told that's the serious is different than seeing somebody get shot in the face and then a whole you know diatrab. You don't need any explanation, bro. It's all real now.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:13

Why does this always happen to me is probably the funniest line of the movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:16

And then her dad like coddles her and like, oh, sweetie's funny. Right, right, right, right. Okay. Could you escape this?

SPEAKER_02 1:39:25

I think everybody wants to think they could.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:27

Grace does, right? Grace does escape it.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:30

Escapes into the second movie, but she does. Well, I think I would have escaped it differently, though. You think I would have hit on the roof or you know, somewhere in a bush? You know, there's no miles of bushes.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:41

Like if you don't know what's coming, you die. You can't escape it because it's just your new in-laws, you're playing hide and go seek.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:49

Right. So in so many of these movies that we've covered, when we go over like, could you escape this? It's always like, Why didn't they run? Why didn't they call the cops? Like, she fucking runs. Yeah, she grabs a gun. Like, why don't you get a weapon? Like, she grabs a gun. So saying by guns by doing it. She calls the cops. She gets a call. She doesn't call the cops, but she calls OnStar, which is 911. Brian Justin. And they're just like, Ah, no, sorry, this car is stolen. We're not gonna help you. She does everything she needs to do that a human would do to get into her. I don't think she went wrong in any turn except for maybe letting her guard down around Georgie. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:26

Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:27

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:27

Which is understandable though.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:28

Well again, he's a little gas.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:31

She didn't see hacking. She didn't see baby Daniel sell Charles out in the hallway, so she doesn't know that the kids are evil. But I think when we talk about like why didn't she just go one place and stay there? I also think they know the property and they have six hours, and there's a bunch of them.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:48

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:48

I think that's a very risky strategy, staying in one place for six hours.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:52

Agree. Yeah. Depends on the place, though. Doesn't it? Like outside that window on top of that, nobody's gonna look on the roof of this place within six hours.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:00

If they do, though, you're fucked because you're standing on a roof.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:03

Come get me. I'll hide behind a chimney. You're found.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:06

No, but if you're found, you're lost, right? And then you gotta kill you. They'll back you off, you'll fall off the roof, or they'll fall off the roof. Yeah. Okay. Okay, Anne. Right. I feel like you're very overconfident in this.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:20

To survive this, you have to have that moment where you know what's going on. Someone has to tell you what's going on. Right, you have to take it seriously. And you have to take it seriously. And then, yeah, then you're just dealing with a bunch of rich people with fucked up crossbows. At least you got a good thing. And drug problems. And she has some.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:37

Not like ankle support, though. Those things offer no ankle support.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:39

So she did she did not go wrong anywhere. She did everything right. Maybe, you know, a couple small things. But she was she's the star. She's a hero. She she did it. Right. Champ champ. Who was the dumbest character?

SPEAKER_06 1:41:51

Is it bitch? Or is it Emily?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:53

What about Emily?

SPEAKER_06 1:41:54

Emily's pretty dumb. They're a match maiden. Yeah, they're not. They are couple. It was perfect. The dumbest couple.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:59

That would be my only knit to pick with this movie. Is Emily should have killed the last nanny slasher. Agree. Yeah. She should be one with her. Yeah. If Alex'd be too much.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:12

If Alex didn't heel turn on us, then it'd be him. Like, you don't have to bring this woman you love into this situation. You can just not get not put the title of husband and wife on it and stay together forever and love each other and just not do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:26

Or just break up with her so that she can live.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:28

Let her break up with she was gonna break up with him.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:30

Let her break up with you and just move on and don't kill anybody. But he heal turns anyway, and so you know, I think he was a little more he kind of knew what he was doing a little bit. So who were we saying? Dumb as called. Oh, Fitch and Emily.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:43

Oh, Fitch and Emily, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:45

Together.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:46

Coke, coke, gold on this one.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:50

So the critics kind of gave this a pretty good review. Metacritic gave it a 67, which is a good solid review for a movie. The tomato meter, they gave it an 89. The popcorn was only 78. We the critics really liked it more than I mean, who who wouldn't like this movie? I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:13

Dummies.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:15

Okay, let's score score. I mean, common. It's pretty gory. I gave it eight and a half. Buckets of blood. People pop blowing up on other people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:26

So face shot. How many dresses? Arrow through the 17 dresses. The hand on the hand bolt. Yeah, the bullet through the hand.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:35

The dumb waiter.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:36

The dumb waiter. Like I said, they showed some restraint. The cutting through her side with the self-constructive.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:47

It's gory. I don't think it's a 10, but I think that's a good thing. It's definitely not a 10.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:51

For me, like one of the things I don't like about horror movies is gore. And so for me to enjoy a movie that's as gory as this, it had to be a really good movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:58

And I think the comedy was going to bring down the gore score.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:05

They did a good job of adding enough chunks to the uh the explosions at the end of it. They falling off the roof and there's falls and hits the table. And it's hitting her like splat and stuff, where it's it takes away just the bucket of blood and it turns it into, you know, visceral, right? I'll give it a nine. Yeah, I'm I'm in that eight to nine range, so I I can be talked into anywhere in that range.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:25

Oh, I think probably a nine. I mean, it for me, movies I've seen, it's probably a ten.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:30

It's an eleven for Mary.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:31

It's a 15.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:33

We should have Mary watch some of the tens we did.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:36

Oh my god. There's no reason I don't watch the tens. So what are we settling on? A nine? Sure, sure. For the Gore score for this one? Okay. Director Plural.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:47

Are we talking about Hall of Fame? Not yet. I mean, he's got a couple Screams under his belt. He's got this one, but the Screams.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:53

I think we gotta figure out, I think we gotta see the sequel.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:55

Scream isn't their franchise, it's Kevin Williamson's and Wes Craven's franchise, right? And Wes Craven's gone, but Kevin Williamson's kept it going, and now is doing like the seventh one. But it's a new story. It is a major franchise to be a part of, which they're a part of two of the films. VHS, they had that too. VHS. So I I mean not yet, but they they can easily get talking. I should have brought them up when I was talking about the like they can they can easily get there in another movie or two. If Ready or Not Two's a hit, they're probably in. They're getting starting off good.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:29

I feel like when we did Long Legs and Emily was on the podcast, I think she focused on some with that that had a crazy catalogue of stuff. And there's like four of those people, and then all the rest are in that. You need to have like five great ones or you know, six great ones.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:46

Not everybody in the hall of fame is bad Ruth and Jack Hock. Exactly. Right. Okay. Is the killer a hall of famer? It's the family. It's not a single killer.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:56

Yeah. Mr. Labelle. No, not gonna give that one out.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:02

Is Grace a Hall of Famer?

SPEAKER_06 1:46:05

I'd say yes. I put her on a very short list.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:08

It's one movie, but and one of my one of my favorite genres is Unlikely Heroes. And I think that she absolutely falls into that category and she just killed it all the way through. Like literally.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:19

Yeah. She's badass despite every obstacle thrown her way. I will say this too.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:25

She doesn't kill very many people. Who does she actually kill in this movie? The mom? The dad? No? She just hits him in the face.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:32

Yeah, burns down the house. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:33

She tries to kill the butler, but is unsuccessful.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:36

So yeah, I mean Well, she does kind of kill him. Maybe he's dead. Maybe he's dead. Yeah, we don't know. Or gravity killed him. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:43

I mean, I think it's a short list conversation, and I think with another movie coming out, she can only she can make her case better.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:50

So she's definitely could get into the non-class.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:55

If we did actresses or whatever, I think she's done enough in the genre to support that.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:03

She acted the shit out of the story.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:05

She did the scream. I can't get over the street. I love that scream.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:09

Did you do you remember her from Ash for a Sleep Dead or no?

SPEAKER_04 1:47:12

I do not.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:13

Okay. I know. Go back and watch that part.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:16

The babysitter. I love the baby. I love the babysitter. I love I love the part where she was like where I think where she tore the dress and she finally gets the gun off the wall and she's got the ammo strapped to her. And like she's got the Chuck Taylors on and the camera's shot. It's from like her feet coming up. And like it's a chance for like a character where they would normally write some cheesy bullshit for her to say, like, you know, come and find me, motherfuckers, or something. Instead, she's just like, Jesus. Yeah. She looks like a hot mess. They do.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:44

She's like Jesus. There's a bunch of things.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:45

Like, that's way better than like some bullshit. Some overkill. Some Bruce Willis line or something.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:52

There's some great iconic stills from this. Her in front of the mirror, decked out like that. Them, all the the family as they're arming themselves, about to leave the uh the game room was great, and then them all around the FaceTime. There's a lot of good like stills in this one.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:06

Yeah, I think that it's great cinematography. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:09

Yeah. This one. Yeah, it's really good. I mean, that house is. They have a great set. Yeah. You know, the house is, you know, really, really awesome. Okay. Props. The crossbow. Crossbow. Yeah. The wedding dress. The wedding dress.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:22

The blood soaked one at the end. Oh, yeah. On like a mannequin or whatever. That'd be perfect. Yellow chucks. You would instantly know what that was.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:28

Shoes for sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:29

Are those supposed to be her dancing shoes? Don't it don't women usually bring like get out of their heels after the ceremony with the shoes in?

SPEAKER_02 1:48:36

I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:38

Interesting choice if that's why she had those shoes.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:41

Because I don't remember seeing her shoes before that.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:42

If like at the reception you change into tennis shoes or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:47

Atticus just walked in the room.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:48

He'll be getting his questions dancing shoes. If that's what they were for.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:52

Should they have been blue suede shoes?

SPEAKER_02 1:48:55

I think that the gun and the the bullet belt.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:57

The elephant gun, yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:59

Or that, but that could also fall into tremors. That's true. That's true. It's the same, basically the same thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:05

But with the with the ammunition on the belt or whatever, shoulder strap. Like if it was on a mannequin, you'd be like, okay, I know what that's from. Probably.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:13

Crossbow, the the outfit.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:15

What about the uh second maid's head with the the the arrow through it that they throw into the thing? Would you recognize that or no? No. No? Okay. Just toss it out there. What about the axe? The battle axe? It's a good one. I don't know, by itself or if you need the crazy haired. The box? What about the box? Oh, the box isn't a lot of zooming in. I think yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:43

What box?

SPEAKER_06 1:49:43

The box with labells, but you see the door open.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:48

With the drawer open and a card face down.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:50

It's not like the twice a box.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:53

You only see it a couple times. But they kill the mom with it.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:55

It's true. It's a weapon.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:57

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:59

Just throwing it out there. Little pistol. Little pistol. No. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:01

No. There are little pistols everywhere.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:03

Little pistols everywhere. Justin's a little black eye. Georgie with a black eye.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:07

Georgie with a black eye.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:08

Georgie with a black eye. He deserved that.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:10

She hit him so hard.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:12

And she's like little fucker.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:15

And you see his eye. The one-liners are good.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:19

She has good one-liners. They are so good. Oh, yeah, our 16-year-old voice is here. Mr. Labelle's associate here, Atticus.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:33

Hello. Okay. So Atticus, what do you think? Where's it rate?

SPEAKER_00 1:50:38

So this is one of my Mount Rushmores. Yeah, mine too. By far. So well, I not Mount Rushmore of like just all horror in general, but like horror comedy. Horror comedy-wise, this is probably like top five. So have you seen it before this? I've seen it four times before. Yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:57

It has a lot of rewatchability. We talked about that earlier, too.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:00

100% rewatchable.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:02

I could pick it up anywhere in the movie and continue to watch it all the way to the end. It's good for a party. It's good to watch some friends. You don't have to be like, everybody be quiet.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:10

The only thing about it is I think if I came in in the middle of it, it would be hard for me to orient myself because there are so many people get killed. I'd be like, is that person still alive or is that person dead? Like, where are we?

SPEAKER_04 1:51:22

Take a minute. So, what about friends? Friends know about this movie. You watch it with the five minutes. Oh, yeah, I've watched it with it.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:29

I've watched it with one of my friends. He enjoyed it. It's just a fun watch to watch with people. So easy.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:35

How'd you feel about the end? Is that the end?

SPEAKER_00 1:51:38

This is one of the best endings in a movie by far.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:43

I think we all agree. The popping. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:45

Just the popping, and then at the very end when like the fire's on house, what happened to you? And lost it. That's like classic.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:53

So like when you saw it the first time, it's hard to remember when you see a movie for the first time, but I feel like for this one, when the the when Aunt Helene popped, how did that hit you? I mean, do you remember?

SPEAKER_00 1:52:06

It was like WTF is what it was like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:10

Your dad was talking about like she had some real momentum heading towards her with that act. Like she was going for it.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:16

Yeah, they could have just thrown a bucket of blood on her from off-screen. It would have been like, yep, that's what it would have looked like.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:22

I thought it was like really funny when like the kids ran out and then you just saw like blood coming, like three blood from pop, pop, pop.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:31

No, he shot her. We shot her in the other. What about the other one? Georgie's.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:35

I think the thing with Georgie was to show that if when you were born into the family, yeah, right, you're gonna be evil.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:42

And that like the Daniel, uh, the Dan the Daniel Alex thing wasn't a one-off. Right? Like the kids are gonna rat you out too. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:49

Yeah. Yeah, they're all in.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:51

All over the place.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:53

What do you think about like Hall of Fame or the hero?

SPEAKER_00 1:52:59

There's oh wait, she may be a Hall of Fame. She may have a case. She may have a case.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:03

Yeah, we think she's gonna she might be on a couple nominations.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:08

We do. We do.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:08

If it's female, I think she definitely built a strong enough case, like maybe like knock her in that door. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:15

Yeah? Yeah. I haven't seen her in any of the other stuff because I don't watch enough horror to know, but she's been a bad guy. Really good in this one. She's been in babysitters. I bet she would be a really good bad guy. She's a good bad guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:26

We should watch babysitters this also. Do you think I would like it? Yeah. The babysitter is the babysitter.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:31

I'll check it out. Shirt that's people for no reason. Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:34

It was a super funny movie. She was also in Scream 5, but she was like Which connection was the directors.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:42

Yeah, the directors to be the Drew Barry more the kill at the beginning. Oh. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:47

Well, I haven't seen Scream 5, so thanks for spoiling it for people. Right. Gosh. Spoiler.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:52

I'm not going to watch Scream 5, yes. You know where it's going.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:55

Oh, Scream 7's coming out. So you gotta get prepared.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:58

Well, Scream 7's out. I revisited 5, and it was better than I remember. When I watched 5, I was like, okay, like trip down memory lane. It was very super meta. I recently like rewatched it. I was like, that was better than I remember it being. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:11

I'm really excited for the the sequel. I'm con I'm equal parts concerned and excited for the sequel. Do you think you'll see the sequel, Atticus? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:19

Scream is like, no, no, no, ready or not.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:23

The sequel's out now. It just came out.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:25

It just came out. I'm gonna have to watch it in theaters.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:28

One knit I'd like to pick is I don't think they should have called it Ready or Not. Here I Here I Come. I think they should have just called it Here I Come.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:34

Yeah, that would be Or we're just Ready Not 2. No. Colin. I think Here I Come. Here I Come makes it sound like she is coming to them to find, you know. Yeah, actually, yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:46

And I don't know if that's the thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:47

But then the line is Ready or Not, Here I Come. Right. They did Ready or Not, so the sequel should be Here.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:52

But I also think they probably were concerned for market all purposes.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:56

For marketing purposes, this could also be like Here I Come, just that. Yeah. That could be in an adult section of a movie theater. Right, right. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:05

You didn't already make that joke at the top of the show, Justin. I just like hearing those jokes from a 16-year-old.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:11

No, that was not my case.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:13

I was a little Yeah. As well. But anyway. Props? Hall of Fame props? You saw something sitting on a table at a Scarefest? I don't think it's funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:26

Like if it was a like you guys were saying, if it was a mannequin with like just with the dress. With the dress and like the gun and the comment. The Chuck Taylors. But I would not be able to tell like a prop. Like the crossbow, it's pretty recognizable, but like there's like other crossbows. Like it could like I could mistake it for like Walking Dead.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:44

What if I told you that some of this was shot at the Billy Madison house?

SPEAKER_00 1:55:49

Who's Billy Madison? Oh Jesus.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:52

Justin, you're a terrible father.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:55

You asked for the Gen Z perspective, and now you're kidding.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:01

Yes. Back to school. Yes, that one. To prove that I'm no food. That's the one.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:07

Yeah. Okay. So final dots, everyone. Ten out of ten. Jinx, you almost said. Damn.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:15

I think it's on my Mount Rush core, so nothing.

SPEAKER_06 1:56:20

Mary likes it. A horror movie. Right. It's good. You guys, I mean, have known me long enough to know it's like if I can recommend this to pretty much anyone that's not even a horror fan or whatever, I love doing that, right? So I love those entry drugs, if you will, into the horror. For loose entrapment. Right, exactly. So I can get you in.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:41

Sarah and Mary Marie both like this movie too. Have they both? Oh yeah, Sarah liked it.

SPEAKER_05 1:56:44

Yeah. I don't know if Mary Marie's seen it since we watched it seven years ago, but yeah. Yeah, Sarah liked it. I remember we both liked it. Much like that. I've watched it a couple times since.

SPEAKER_06 1:56:54

I feel like I had to convince her a couple years afterwards. The kids I got in pretty quick, but then she's like, fine, I'll watch it. Same. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:03

Yeah. And it's one you can watch with the family as long as they can tolerate blood. There's no sex. There's no nothing nudity. There's no.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:12

And it's outlandish enough that it's not like, oh, you're concerned it's gonna like.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:17

Yeah, there's no monsters, aliens. Like, I don't know. But the stuff that scares kids. There's blood.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:22

One thing I will say is I won't see the sequel in the theater. I don't watch scary movies in the theater. You don't want to see in the theater? It's the noise is too much for me. I can't take it. I can't take the show.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:31

So we'll wait for it to come out.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:33

Well, you can go see it with the kids. They are they'll definitely want to see it.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:36

Or with your friend.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:37

Or with your friends. Or with your friends who love movies that you do a podcast with.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:44

Oh no, we're there yet. No, no, this is this is a great one. Good uh good pick. I like this one. And topical too, with the sequel just came out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:53

Almost like we're marketing it.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:54

Almost. They should pay you guys. Go watch Ready Will Here at the time. Almost we're like, we're hoping people will search their podcasts for Ready or not because it's topical and then they'll find us and want to know our team. You're giving Charlie way too much credit.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:06

Almost like the marketing people for Radio Silence will be like, you know, we should throw a few bucks at those guys.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:13

Maybe. At least a couple bucks. Ticket to a theater, some free popcorn. Come on.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:20

Yeah, she did, and we were all wowed by the.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:22

Also, I did not know Jada's dad was in The Blair Witch.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:25

So Well, yeah, we're gonna get him on this podcast one of these days. Godfather. Her godfather, not her dad. Yes. Same thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:33

Close enough. Same thing. Well, her father is her godfather.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:36

Anyway, we digress. Her sister's godfather.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:39

Her brother's uncle is her uncle.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:40

It's her sister's godfather, not her sister.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:43

Okay. So we're done with this one. Great movie. Who's got next? Justin.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:49

I have next, but I feel like I need, I haven't fully gotten a commitment from my trying to get another guy to come in and do one, but I haven't got a firm date. So I'm gonna have to kick that down the road.

SPEAKER_05 1:58:59

So I you don't have to. Well, that's true. I'm just saying we don't have to always be like, we're doing this one next. Like you can leave a cliffhanger once in a while.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:07

Oh, you're saying tune in next time. Leave the people wanting more. Leave the people wanting more. Maybe. Well, it is my turn next. Both of them. Leave both of the people. Both of people.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:18

All of the family members that listen to this podcast. Listeners worldwide.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:22

Worldwide. To our many, many British fans. Yeah. We do have a few. A bunch in Michigan.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:28

You would think we wouldn't, as much as we shit talk Britain once or twice on the spot.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:32

Only during Ryder Cup. Not we. Only during Ryder Cup. Or when they want to tax our T too soon, Mike. Learn too soon. Alright, so what are we doing?

SPEAKER_04 1:59:43

We're not we're not. Are we not going to give it away? We're not going to give it. We're not giving it. So we're closing it. Up to you. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:50

Or should I lay out the two pathways? I don't think we need to lay out pathways. No. All right. Hey, how about this then? We tune in and it's going to be surprised. Or maybe we'll drop that information on our mini. On our mini, which is 2020?

SPEAKER_05 2:00:03

2022. 2022.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:05

Yeah. Horror movie draft. I never know what we're doing next. He doesn't. He wrote his trivia questions like two minutes before. No, what did you do? No, they turned out good. He had a sealed envelope and everything. Mary, what'd you think of the sealed envelope he had?

SPEAKER_02 2:00:21

I haven't.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:22

You didn't listen to that one yet?

SPEAKER_02 2:00:22

I haven't listened to that one yet. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:24

I wouldn't spoil it.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:25

You guys, it's a lot of conversation.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:27

All right, wait. Mary, it's been a while since you've been back on the show. What is your favorite episode so far? Putting you on the spot. You can't pick the ones you've been in. That's true. No strangers.

SPEAKER_05 2:00:39

Strangers had the best guest host.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:41

It did have a guest host. You know what? I haven't listened to Sarah's episode either yet, and I need to get to that.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:46

But you haven't seen Planetary, you need to watch that one.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:48

Well, that's the thing. That's the thing about watching these, is that I haven't seen a lot of the movies. And so like I listened to Long Legs, and it was probably my favorite episode, mostly because I'm biased and Emily was on it. And I kind of felt like I was hanging out with you guys and Emily while I was listening to it. But but I would say that when the podcast was over, I was like, I have no fucking idea what that movie was about. Can you explain that to me? Like, so the man was the devil, the devil is controlling. You know, so if I haven't seen the movie, you guys do a good job of summarizing, but like some of these movies have some pretty wild like premises. Outlandish, yeah. And so it can be really hard to know. But yeah, I enjoyed that one. I enjoyed I enjoyed all of them.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:27

Do we have an hour where I can tell her about long legs real quick? No, no, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:32

We'll do a special, a mini pod for that.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:34

Mini pod.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:35

Justin explains long legs. Explains long legs. Charlie.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:38

So you see, there's the devil.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:41

And Nicolas Cage. And Nicolas Cage.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:44

Nick fucking we spent what how long was it? Like 20 minutes on Nick Cage? Oh my god, you guys saw you. But we wanted to spend more. Right. But hey, I'm gonna let you thank your our special guest here for uh thank you very much to our special guest, Mary.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:59

Thanks for having me, guys. I always have fun here.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:00

Yeah, great voice.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:02

I mean I mean, it was last time. This time was a little rocky.

SPEAKER_06 2:02:07

A little rough, a little gravelly.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:09

Thanks, guys. It was fun.

SPEAKER_06 2:02:10

You did great. We appreciate you having having you here. You're too nice to her. Until next time. Until next time. Until next time. Same bad place, same bad time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:19

Okay. We're done here.

SPEAKER_06 2:02:21

I think we're done.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:22

Mike, you want to give us the spiel?

SPEAKER_05 2:02:26

Sure. Thank you all for listening to the All Guts So Gory podcast. If you like what we do here, the best thing you can do is rate and review wherever you get your podcasts. Especially if you listen on Spotify, make sure you follow us. Helps our numbers out if you actually follow. You want to subscribe so that you don't miss your favorite horror movies as we break them down. Our mini episode coming up this week will be on the 2022 year in horror. We'll draft our favorite horror movies. There's a lot of good ones, by the way. Not like 1993, where we had to struggle to find three that we liked. Technicalities were like released in England. We won't need the technicalities for 2022. And I think you can find at least five or six that we like for each person. We might even do four each this time. Maybe we might change the rules for this one. There's a lot of good ones in 2022. So yeah, that'll be a fun one. Thank you, Mary, for being here. Always a pleasure. Come back anytime. Even if Charlie can't make it, come back.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:24

Especially if Charlie didn't have it. We gotta flesh out the wives out idea.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:27

Yeah, yeah. Definitely, that'll be fun. So thank you, Mary. Charlie, good pick. Thank you for hosting. Justin, thank you for the space. And that's all I'm good for, my basically. But thank you for his contribution as well. This is all gut so gory. This was ready or not. Maybe maybe another time we'll do Here I Come, but that'll be longer down the road. Andy, take us home.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:53

This is the end friend.