Scream (1996) Wes Craven Brings Slashers Back From the Dead

It's an all hands pick for the 50th episode of All Guts So Gory. 1996's, Scream. What's your favorite scary movie? Wes Craven's horror classic was impactful on a new generation of horror fiends whose formative years came just as the slasher sub-genre was dead as dead can be. The guys are joined by Mike's better half, Mary-Marie, who has Scream on her "Mount Rushgore" of horror films. Scream was directed by Wes Craven. Written by Kevin Williamson. Starring Neve Campbell, David Arquette, Courtney Cox, Rose McGowan, Matthew Lillard, Skeet Ulrich, Jamie Kennedy, and Drew Barrymore. 

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Coming up next, All Guts O Gory presents a film that needs no introduction.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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Who is this?

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Tell me your name, I'll tell you mine.

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Why do you want to know my name?

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I want to know who I'm looking at. They never make it into it.

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This is Gail Weathers with an exclusive authorities or battle mourn by the killer. It all began with a scream of a 911. Like the plot of some scary movies. What's the point?

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I'll be right back.

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The mad and macabre.

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Oh my god, I'm just gonna bash you over here. Oh girl, playtime's over. You don't know what night night.

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Welcome to the All Guts So Gory podcast. Our conversation today is on the iconic original 1996's Scream, celebrating its 30th anniversary this year, 2026. I'm joined as always by Justin and Charlie, and today we have a very beautiful special guest with us today. Guys, we can finally say all of our wives have now joined us on the pod. Please welcome Mary Marie to the show.

SPEAKER_03 2:11

Hey guys, longtime listener, first time caller. Very excited to be here.

SPEAKER_07 2:17

Thank you so much for being here. Before we get into Scream, Mary Marie, you've listened to the show before. Please fill us in a little bit about your relationship with horror films. When did it start? Were you like us guys where it was way too young? You found some stuff you shouldn't have and then developed a taste for it. Were you older when you got into some of this stuff?

SPEAKER_03 2:39

When I was younger, I watched horror or scary movies with like my dad. So I kind of remember watching like Tales from the Crypt. And then growing up, honestly, Justin was probably one of the most influential people with scary movies. And it was kind of like our thing to go do and go to the movie theater and go see scary movies.

SPEAKER_06 2:56

This Justin?

SPEAKER_03 2:57

Yes, this guy.

SPEAKER_07 2:58

This guy.

SPEAKER_03 2:59

Justin's been part of my life for like 25 years.

SPEAKER_07 3:02

True. So Sarah was not a fan.

SPEAKER_04 3:05

So Sissy volunteered as tribute, essentially, to watch some of these movies. Yes. So like Katniss.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

I think there was only one time I had to walk out of one, it was the Texas Chainsaw Massacre because I was like, oh, it was a little too bloody. I mean I came back in, but I was like, that was the Jessica Beale one, I think.

SPEAKER_07 3:24

Yeah. That's a good one. No way it was walking out on Jessica. No. No. Solid one though. So for the big question that we ask all of our special guests here, tell us your top four in no particular order horror films, your Mount Rush Gore of horror films.

SPEAKER_03 3:42

Well, Scream is definitely one of I like movies that have sequels, and this one's got quite a few, and it even has like a spin-off show. So you can kind of do some nice binging with that. And then there's always like a female lead, and she's you know, always wins at the end. Curl power. Yes, absolutely. Another one I like a lot is Happy Death Day. I think that one's good. Yeah, it's very funny. It's a fun one. Um yeah, guys should do that one soon.

SPEAKER_07 4:10

Anytime you put uh groundhog state theme with a horror, I'm in. You know, I'm in. Or even like like the Tom Cruise Edge of Tomorrow. Oh, like such a good, such a good movie. That like reliving the same day over and over and perfect. Yeah, it's so good.

SPEAKER_03 4:25

I guess that's another like female heroine one as well. And then uh Jesus. Keep up with the kids, you know?

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You ain't keeping up with nobody. That's the cocaine's the cocaine.

SPEAKER_03 4:43

And then I like Jessica's Body, that's a good one too.

SPEAKER_07 4:47

Jennifer's body.

SPEAKER_03 4:47

Jennifer's body, my bad, my bad.

SPEAKER_07 4:50

You didn't watch the one she did, okay? That was Jessica. So that was Kirkland Brand or the Hallmark version.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

And then other ones, like I do like paranormal activity. I like found footage ones like VHS. So yeah.

SPEAKER_07 5:07

Okay. Yeah, I think you introduced me maybe to VHS, if I'm not mistaken, because we what you were a few years ago, five years ago, I think VHS 84. I think when that one came out, you were like, oh, VHS, like you should watch this. Like, it's really good.

SPEAKER_05 5:22

I think that was the first one I saw.

SPEAKER_07 5:23

The first one I saw was 84 before we I went back and watched some of the other ones, and we ended up doing one on the pod, the original one.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

Well, Justin introduced me to the original one.

SPEAKER_07 5:31

So there you go. There you have it. I'm so influential in all of your lives. All of them. Mary Marie, did you listen to the Ready or Not podcast?

SPEAKER_03 5:42

I did.

SPEAKER_07 5:43

That we did. How do you feel about volume being volunteered for the all gut so gory spinoff pod, Wives Out?

SPEAKER_03 5:50

Oh, we've already been texting about it.

SPEAKER_07 5:52

Really? Really? You guys got uh brainstorming workshops done yet?

SPEAKER_03 5:58

I think Sarah sent one text and I replied, and that's as far as we go. Yeah, awesome. There was a movie in a month. So discussed.

SPEAKER_07 6:06

What movie?

SPEAKER_03 6:08

It's a surprise.

SPEAKER_07 6:09

Oh, okay. Fair enough. You're not a wive. Yeah, but it's gonna be either.

SPEAKER_03 6:15

Wives is in the title of the movie, though.

SPEAKER_07 6:17

Yeah. It's gonna be like 13 going on 30.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

I mean, that's a good movie, don't like it.

SPEAKER_07 6:23

First Wives Club, Stepford Wives. No. Maybe well, thank you again for doing this. I know you're a little speculative, but I really appreciate you being here. It means a lot that you support our venture and really appreciate it. Another reason, besides Mary Marie being here, guys, that this is a special episode. It's our 50th episode of All Guts So Global. Holy shit. How about that? 50.

SPEAKER_06 6:49

Yeah, that's just the regulars, or is that including all the goodies?

SPEAKER_07 6:52

Okay. All together. 50 episodes or 32nd film. That's like 10,000 hours, man. If it's a minute. Which means we should be starting to get kind of good at this eventually. I don't know about that. Depends. I mean, Charlie already told us he's on like a two-day bender. So we'll see how this goes. So yeah, 50th episode. I mean, what better way than to do a tentpole horror film like Scream? We've this will be our third tent pole film, like an all hands collection. It's not a just a mic pick or just a Charlie pick. This is a we all love this collectively enough to do it together, and you know, doesn't need anyone to be like, I'm calling dibs on this one kind of thing. So Dibs. So Scream, guys, 30th anniversary, really huge impact when this movie came out. We'll get into our feelings on Scream kind of organically as this goes. But first question Do you think maybe this is the first horror movie that exists in a universe with other horror films? And does that amp up like the cool factor when you were 12 or 16 or 20-year-old when you saw this for the first time? So it it's not the first one that acknowledges other films, but as films, yes, that I know of.

SPEAKER_04 8:09

Because Return of the Living Dead acknowledges the events of Night of the Living Dead. Okay. It's it's you know, it works in another franchise in there. But as far as just rattling out, oh, this is almost in the same universe we're in, they're watching the same movies we are. I would say this is yeah, one of those for sure.

SPEAKER_06 8:26

Yeah, and just talking about like, you know, this is how you survive, you know, and this is these are the things you don't do in a horror movie, and they're in a horror movie. But like horror movies is it's like like usually in horror movies when they give nods, it's usually somebody's watching TV with a horror movie on, like in Freak Fright Night, there were horror movies on. In Nightmare on Elm Street, there were horror movies on TV in the background.

SPEAKER_07 8:54

Yeah. In Halloween, the kids are watching the Howard Hawk's The Thing from Another Planet. Yeah. That's really common. I don't know when that started. But it's out, but they don't like exist where they're like at the level that Scream's doing it. I think it's subtle, more subtle than yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:09

Scream is not subtle.

SPEAKER_07 9:11

Yeah, it's almost like Scream is like a love letter to all the horror movies, the slashers probably most specifically that came before it.

SPEAKER_06 9:18

Yeah, like a lot a lot of them will also have like Easter eggs where they're like, you know, use character names or you know, but this one is just straight up horror movies, and this is how you survive horror movies, and then we'll get into it.

SPEAKER_07 9:32

But there's a lot of nods to horror movies in this horror movie. Right. I didn't catch any. What is your relationship to Scream, guys? Came out in '96. For me, I mean, I was a 12-year-old, so this was not one I was at the theater for, but I remember renting it when it came out, so like 97 or so. Did you guys catch this one in the theater? What month did it come out? December. It was a Christmas release. December, okay. So I started working at the movie theater in February of '97. So I'm pretty sure that I was. It had an eight month run in theaters, which is a long time. Nine sure that I saw this one in the theater.

SPEAKER_04 10:11

And we've talked about movies that hit at certain times in our lives, I think 16, 18, that range, you're just like you're kind of like becoming your own adult, right? And figuring out, oh, I do really like this stuff. I mean, I'd been a big fan of horror movies before, but this one hit hard and was was an instant favorite.

SPEAKER_06 10:30

Yeah. I I don't remember if I saw this in the theater or not. I probably did, but yeah. Yeah, I'm not 100% sure when you saw it, but I you know, I liked it, you know. Do you remember Mary Marie?

SPEAKER_03 10:43

Well, I definitely didn't see it in theaters because I was only like nine years old.

SPEAKER_07 10:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:47

So I definitely watched it at home, but it may have been like maybe when one of the other ones, the later ones, was coming out, maybe the third one. And I probably run into the other two to catch up.

SPEAKER_07 10:56

Do you remember like watching it with a group of friends or anything? Or no? Okay. Not at no slumber parties or something.

SPEAKER_03 11:01

Yeah, I didn't have friends that really were into like horror films.

SPEAKER_07 11:05

So because they would just lame friends. Need to go back in time and get her some friends.

SPEAKER_03 11:10

Well, now I got like two pretty good friends that are into them.

SPEAKER_07 11:13

So yeah, and you married one of them. Are they both here right now? Who is that? Girlfriends. Oh, okay, girlfriends. For me, I mean, this was the first time I feel like a horror movie felt like a who'd done it. And maybe because I was at the age and I not exposed to so much, but at this point I was introduced to Chucky before this, and then it's kind of 12 years old was about the time where I started, you know, watching more stuff I shouldn't have and being exposed to some more movies that my aunt and my cousins had, or or walking down when I was staying at my other cousin's house. We could walk to the video store and we'd walk down there and rent a couple horror movies for the weekend if I was staying over for the weekend. And you know, little you know, mom and mom and pop video rental. They weren't they didn't care that a 10 and 12 year old were walking in and renting leprechaun. Just don't go in the room around the curtain, kid. Oh, it had a room with a curtain. It was a beaded curtain. It wasn't even like that, it was just a beaded curtain. You could see right in there. So they could hear you go in. Why were the why were the boxes so huge for those videos? Well, I need to know. They probably came with those other other things. Like a book? Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, no, you know, you get like a prize in a cereal box. There's probably like a prize that came in uh is that like a cracker jack off? Is that what that's anyway? So But yeah, it was like you know, one of those ones that when I started watching horror, this was the first one that felt like a whodunit, like in Halloween and the Jason movies and the Freddy movies, like they're all those are the ones I was exposed to first, and they're like, you know who the killer is, they tell you who it is, you see them the whole time. I mean, the original Friday the 13th, it's it's hidden that Mrs. Voorhees is the one to spoiler alert, but all the Jason movies, it's like it's Jason, right? It's Jason, you know, and this is the first one where you're trying to figure out like who the fuck's under the mask, like the whole time. Right. So it felt really unique to me in that sense. And then, you know, watching this, like all the other references to like Leatherface and Silence of the Lambs. I probably didn't watch Silence of the Lambs until after I'd seen Scream. You know, all these other references they make, it's just like made me want to go see those movies that they were talking about, you know. So really, really impactful on my youth and and on my horror fandom, that's for sure. Couldn't tell. No secret that horror, I don't think, was in a good place here in the mid-90s after like the 80s slashers had kind of died. They'd be shark, they'd beaten those to death. The Halloween, Jason, Freddie. They're they're all they'd all run its course. Wes Craven's new nightmare was 94, and they like like slashers were dead, basically. And there really wasn't, as we did 1993 on one of our Fear Years episodes, we know that movie year sucked for horror. And I think some of the best night early 90s horror movies are like Silence of the Lambs, Misery, some of these films that are like you know, you know, just kind of not necessarily IP. They're not IP, they're not slashers, they're thrilling, they're good, but I don't think there's like a whole bunch that you can point to like that are just amazing. And I I think Scream, do you think it kind of saved horror? I think I mean even Wes Craven didn't want to do this at first. You knew that.

SPEAKER_04 14:39

I mean, sure that's gonna come up in our research, but he was he thought you know everything had been done, and you were kind of phasing out this horror slasher, especially. Yeah, I would say it definitely made it fun again. I don't have much else to say about that, but yeah, really made it a fun movie-going thing to do. 173 million, I'm sure you're gonna bring that up, but it was a massive hit. You know, put it back in our zeitgeist if you want.

SPEAKER_07 15:05

Yeah. Well, I think it helped save horror, bring slashes back.

SPEAKER_04 15:09

He said it like I just said it. I agree, sir. Tell us how much you hate Reddit.

SPEAKER_07 15:16

Did you hear his Reddit thing last time? Oh my god. Yeah, the Reddit mods. It's like he's like, go off yourself. Yeah, have to be careful. I just want to know if Hellraiser was overrated or underrated from the from other horror fans. And they're like, delete, you know, go search the sub for this answer. I'm like, it's not fucking there, cocksuckers. Whoa. Anyway, wow. Pull the scab off of that one. Damn. Anywho, the tagline for Scream. Someone has taken their love of scary movies one step too far. Solving this mystery is going to be murder. Little wordy. I don't like the long ones. Yeah, yeah. That's what she said. What? Not what she said, probably. Yeah, a little wordy. If it's a murder mystery, solving this mystery is gonna be murder, like it's almost too on the nose. On the nose. I don't know, we're just not clever enough.

SPEAKER_06 16:20

They could do better. I feel like this is just like I don't think there's a guy who does taglines as a uh a living for a living. They just like give me some cocaine, and like, hey, this is a good one. I don't know, let's try this. Yeah, that sounds great, man. That's great.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

I mean, high school, it's a killer time.

SPEAKER_04 16:40

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_07 16:41

Right. Yeah, right. I think that is no one gets out of line. That's gotta be a tagline for something already. If it's not in tag, how about you better watch out if your mom's a hoe?

SPEAKER_04 16:54

I mean, that's a good one, right?

SPEAKER_07 16:59

You won't be right back. Yeah, how about there are rules. This isn't nom. This isn't Nom. We're not in Russia. So, yeah, this is a West Graven film. He's got classics in three different decades with his debut, Last House on the Left, coming out in 1972. Mary May, did you see that or the remake of Last House on the Left? With Aaron Paul in it? How'd you feel about that one? Because I know something you don't like and I don't like, and it's and I don't like spoiler alert, I don't like it either. Well, I know both of us we don't like when like rape goes on too long and Last House on the Left is notorious for that. Yeah, you're looking for that Goldilocks of rape just right. Yeah, you can imply it, it doesn't need to take five, ten minutes. We we got it. Yeah, do you like the dramatic music and shut the door? You know what's going on behind that. And yeah, there's no door to shut, they're just outside in the daylight. It's yeah, so Last House on the Left, and then A Nightmare on Elm Street in 1984, 12 years after that, and then 12 years after this is Scream. So every 12 years he's putting out something amazing. 2008 didn't do anything. You forgot Jeepers Creep in The Hills Have Eyes. You forgot some of my favorites Shocker and Deadly Friend. I love I love Wes Craven's great. Okay, not of all, not all of them are great, but you know, yeah. No, West Craven's in our Hall of Fame. First ballot already in. So he directed parts one through four of Scream. I kind of think I like one a lot, I like two a lot. I think three and four, like I kind of like them in the order they came out in. Not really a huge fan of three and four. You guys have any thoughts on the sequels? I think we mentioned it. At least up through four.

SPEAKER_04 18:45

Four is the most mid of any of them, which you know it was fine. It was just like, oh yeah, I'll take the the the sheet cake off the dessert plate or whatever. It's just the it's just fine, right? Five came back kind of with the with the a punch there, and six was pretty solid. So yeah. But yeah, two and three. Eh.

SPEAKER_07 19:05

I don't remember them. I know I watched them, but yeah, I'm gonna forget this one too.

SPEAKER_03 19:13

Yeah, two was good, and then I think six was I I remember liking that one. And then the show. I like the TV show.

SPEAKER_07 19:19

Yeah, you were the bigger fan than I didn't f around with. It was on MTV, right? Yeah, yeah, they were doing a while. They were doing like Teen Wolf, like a serious Teen Wolf, and like Scream, and that's all I got. Was Bates Motel was that on like uh it wasn't MTV as well? I think it was like AMC or something. But that was another kind of like a it was for teens kind of I was not a teen when I watched it. Yeah, always hashtag always a teen.

SPEAKER_03 19:48

Gotta reminisce.

SPEAKER_07 19:49

Yeah, right. Yeah, so this was collaboration with Kevin Williamson, the writer, his first screenplay. How many people just sit down and write their first screenplay and it's instant fucking classic? I I think it was his first accepted screenplay. Stallone accepted screenplay, yeah. Stallone wrote Rocky in like three days, and then he wins an Oscar. Don't forget, I don't want to wait. Yeah, he does. I mean, yeah, so get there, man. Oh no, okay. Sorry. Yeah, so he he's the writer on Scream. He wrote I Know What You Did Last Summer. He wrote that in the early 90s and it never got picked up. He wrote Scream in two days, apparently, wrote the screenplay for this, based on the Florida Gainesville Ripper case. So he wrote the script for Scream in two days. It got picked up, and then as soon as Scream was a big success, I know what you did last summer was greenlit like right away because he had it ready to go. That came out in '97. He wrote Scream 2, he wrote The Faculty, which we've done on this pod. And then creates Dawson's Creek, which debuted in 98. He wrote and directed Teaching Mrs. Tingle in 1999. Did a lot of TV after that.

SPEAKER_04 21:00

You guys know what the zip code is at Dawson's Creek?

SPEAKER_07 21:02

No, I don't. 90108. It might not be, but just channeling his dad jokes. You're better than that. That's what I've heard. That's pretty solid. Anyway. Teaching Mrs. Tingle. You guys seen that? I liked it. No.

SPEAKER_04 21:21

I learned that none of us are using the word ironic correctly from that movie. Oh, really? Really, it's this whole thing where it's like, what's her name? Mrs. Tingle? Yeah, Mrs. Tingle played by the hot older lady. What's her name? Helen Meary. Helen what's her name? Yeah, Helen Mirren. She dresses down Katie Holmes by telling her that she doesn't know how to use the word ironic, and it's this whole bit throughout the whole movie. Yeah. If you think you know you're using it right, you're not.

SPEAKER_07 21:48

I had a ironic. I remember vividly a substitute teacher coming in to our English class, and we were talking about irony, and he literally asked the class if anybody knew what iron. Irony was followed by, and it's not when you have an iron knee and he thought it was so hilarious. It's not when a black flies in your garden. Holy crap.

SPEAKER_04 22:11

None of the Lannis's references to iron knee are not ironic at all.

SPEAKER_07 22:16

No. That's our ironic moment.

SPEAKER_05 22:19

Bing, bing.

SPEAKER_07 22:20

Yeah, but Kevin Williamson, you know, small, you know, small palette, but big, big, uh, big impact. Big. So you know, the the cast list here, we'll go through the cast as we get into the movie, but we'll at least uh start with a couple of the bigger names. Nobody's like top bill in this. Nobody's big at the time, really. I mean, except for one. I mean, yeah. You know, on the poster they listed the actors in alphabetical order, except for Drew Barrymore at the end, because they didn't, I you know, nobody was like a you know, top of the line, then the title, and then like the supporting actors at the bottom. It was all you know, David Arquette, Nev Campbell, Courtney Cox, Matthew Lillard, Rose McGowan, Skeeter, and Drew Barrymore. Henry Winkler wasn't on. He's on he's uncredited in this. Really? He's uncredited in the Fonds, he didn't get ah he he wanted to stay uncredited to not draw attention away from the younger stars. When did Friends come out? 94. Yeah. So Courtney Cox was probably the second most established one, right? Yeah. Yeah. We had Party of Five and uh the Crafts. Let's let's start with Nev Campbell, right? She's Sidney Prescott, she's the heroine of this movie, she's the big star for this franchise. Party of Five in 1994, I'd never seen it. Pretty huge. Still have never seen it. It's pretty big. I haven't. I never watched those shows. That 90210, Melrose Place, never seen an episode of either any of those. Same. So what? Justin, this is your. What kind of life did you guys live? I was watching Margaret. I was watching sports. Getting laid.

SPEAKER_04 24:00

Getting laid. Getting laid watching sports. No, Party of Five was good, man. It was about this older brother that basically the parents died, so he had to take care of his younger siblings. Nev Campbell was, you know, kind of kind of annoying in this one. But Lacey Shaber, Hallmark Queen, Lacey Shaber was in that one. Scott Wolf, Matthew Fox from Lost. You're guys. Yep, that's who I know him from. Well, yeah, Jennifer Love Hewitt had a big role in this that one too. So Party 5 was huge, and then Nev and Skeet were both in the craft together.

SPEAKER_07 24:34

The Craft? Did you see The Craft, Mary Marie? I feel like that's one that's up your alley. Yeah, I've seen the craft. Right. No. Once. You haven't seen The Craft? Once, but I don't I don't remember much about it. It was a long, long, long time. It's good. It's good, okay. It's like right before Scream, I think. It is. It's it came out the same year, 96. So yeah, Nev, Party 5, The Craft, Scream. They turn around and make Scream 2 really quickly in 1997. Wild Things in 1998. Probably the hottest thing in the world for a ninth grade boy to be out. You know, The Threesome with Denise Richards at the time.

SPEAKER_04 25:12

Like that movie was just you were all about Kevin Bacon, though, right? No.

SPEAKER_07 25:16

He's more of a Matt Dylan.

SPEAKER_05 25:18

Kevin and his bacon in that movie.

SPEAKER_07 25:22

His hog. He shows his dick if you haven't seen Wild Things. That's what I'm getting at. Wow. You've got to warn us if you're going to drop the hog on us. Whoa. That's what she said. That's what she said. All right. All right, kiddos. Have you seen Wild Things? No? No. Should watch it.

SPEAKER_03 25:42

Sounds like it would have been very inappropriate.

SPEAKER_07 25:44

It's very inappropriate. When the kids go to bed, when Teddy's on his iPad with his back to the TV.

unknown 25:51

No.

SPEAKER_07 25:52

Teddy would turn around and go. It's not scary. It's not a horror. It's like a crime thriller, but it's it's not appropriate by any means at all. But it's good. But yeah, that was this is the time when like Maxim Magazine is big and starting to come out. I mean, like girls like Nev Campbell, Denise Richards, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Sarah Michelle Geller were like in this late 90s, we're like the hottest stars in Hollywood, probably, as far as actresses go that are at least in pop culture. I know there's you know your Kate Winslit's your bigger stars in bigger movies and winning awards and stuff, but you know, as far as like teenage culture, pop culture for for young'uns, like nobody was probably hotter than Nev Campbell for like a three-year stretch. Would you agree? Okay, good input, guys. Wake the fuck up.

SPEAKER_04 26:46

Let's go. I know you're a Nev girl. She had a good little uh run there, didn't she? Fucking Reddit mods. Remember Rebecca Gayhart? She had a good run too in that time frame, but what happened to her? Anyway, she's around. She did an Urban one of those movies, right?

SPEAKER_07 27:07

Urban Legends or Urban Legends. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, go ahead. David Arquette, he's in a few movies under his belt. He's uh some major TV shows and some small roles. Five dollars if he mentions his wrestling uh stuff. Oh, I'm going to because she pissed me off. He uh the family history of actors, you know, his father's an actor, and two of his sisters. I mean, all four siblings, but two of his sisters, Rosanna, Patricia and Patricia, really famous actresses. You know, probably most well known for this role, ever being Dewey Riley in the Scream franchise, would go on to marry Courtney Cox, obviously. You know, I think they're they met on this set of this, right? If I'm not mistaken. I think so. I think so. When yeah, started dating and hit it off, got married, I think, three years after this, I think 1999. Were you there? Wasn't there so yeah, now it's time for your favorite segment. It's Wrestling Corner. David Arquette can also be referred to as former WCW world heavyweight champion, David Arquette. He was the heavyweight champion for 12 days. He wrestled to promote the film Ready to Rumble. That's a good movie, and donated his salary to the families of Owen Hart, Brian Pillman, and Darren Drosdov. Do any of those names ring a bell time? Owen Hart does. Owen Hart? Yes. Brett the Hitman Hart's brother. He tragically died in the ring. He fell from the rafters and fell about 70 some feet to his death in front of a live audience at a wrestling event or at a pay-per-view. And then they kept the pay-per-view going, sadly. They probably rushed him off not knowing he was they knew. Yeah. The the the blood from where he landed was still like in the corner of the ring. Yeah. It was bad.

SPEAKER_04 28:51

Good job, guys.

SPEAKER_07 28:52

Brian Pillman had a heart attack at, I believe, the age of like 35, passed away, but he was a really intense guy. They found trace elements of cocaine in his system. No, nothing. A lot of wrestlers have sad stories of drug and pill and alcohol abuse because of the environment and what they do. And you know, Brian Pillman's one of those cases, unfortunately. Fun fact about Brian Pillman, his high school, or I'm sorry, his college roommate when he played football at the University of Cincinnati was John Harbaugh. Your favorite head coach. Now Giants head coach. Who sucks. Darren Drosov, he was paralyzed uh for life from an injury he had in the ring. But anyway, that was wrestling corner. We need an outro to that. No no no no.

SPEAKER_04 29:43

Thank you for that delightful information.

SPEAKER_07 29:45

Yeah. He's still uh I think I don't know if he still does, but as of like five or six years ago, he did like a death match and like critically injured himself. Yeah. He took like a shard of glass that nicked his carotid artery, like with a fluorescent light tube bashed over his head, and like, yeah, they had to rush him out. He like almost died. Wow. Like, you don't need to do that, but he loves doing the shit.

SPEAKER_04 30:07

So he was at the last scare fest I went to. So I did, you know, of course, got to meet him. I just wanted to brag to you about that. And somebody had like a little WCW figure for him to sign or whatever.

SPEAKER_07 30:18

He got a kick out of that. They were right in front of me. So that's so cool. That's so cool. Yeah. It is. He really wishes. Mike wishes he was there. He smelled the rich mahogany. And leatherbound books. So yeah. Let's start talking about David's better half, Courtney Cox. They're not married anymore, correct? No, they divorced a long time ago. Courtney Cox, famously from the Bruce Springsteen Dancing in the Dark Music video, made her a star. You know, nothing else, right? Nothing else. She was in a lot of stuff, not nothing I really seen before. Ace Ventura? Yeah. Ace Ventura and Friends came out in the same year.

SPEAKER_04 30:57

I think she was born looking like a 29-year-old lady, though.

SPEAKER_07 31:00

Like she lived in this 29-year-old range for like 20 years. Yeah. Teddy, Mary Marie is a big fan of Ace Ventura.

SPEAKER_05 31:08

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 31:09

We watched the movie and you let him watch that? Has he tried to ask you a question? Made him watch it. And then we watched the second one. The second one's so good. And then after we watched the second one, like the next day, he's like, Can we watch the third one?

SPEAKER_03 31:21

I'm like, there's not a third one, but then he goes around talking out of his butt now. Nice.

SPEAKER_07 31:26

Nah, I wish he would.

SPEAKER_03 31:28

No, he does. I've seen it.

SPEAKER_07 31:30

Oh, he hasn't done that to me.

SPEAKER_03 31:31

So that's how I found out he watched it. And I was like, You watched that? And I didn't even know.

SPEAKER_07 31:37

Oh. Uh oh. Yeah. We get to see it first here, Charlie. You were busy thinking of the WCW pointer.

SPEAKER_03 31:47

It's like I didn't know about poltergeist.

SPEAKER_07 31:49

Memory's clapping on the table. She's getting her elbow ready for the elbow drop. When did you get a steel cage in your basement, Justin? Pops up for specific moments like this.

SPEAKER_03 31:57

Where's the fluorescent lighting?

SPEAKER_07 32:02

So oh yeah. But yeah, Courtney Cox, you know, she wanted to play this part, and I think the executives were hesitant because she's always played like nice girl roles. Yeah. And they're like, I don't think she can be bitchy enough. Yeah, what's yeah? I was gonna say, what's the word to describe her character? It starts with the B. She just wanted very assertive.

SPEAKER_06 32:21

That's what we jump in real quick and lay this earworm in everyone. I cannot watch this movie without thinking of its much funnier, bizarro world, doppelganger scary movie. Scary movie, yeah. And the spoof they do of Gail and the cameraman in scary movie is like some of the funniest shit I have ever seen in my life.

SPEAKER_07 32:45

I can't drop funny. What's her name in Scary Movie? Like Gail Hailstorm. Something like ridiculous like that.

SPEAKER_06 32:52

But her cameraman, oh my god, there it's just so funny, it's just so good.

SPEAKER_07 32:57

Can you hold it up? Yeah, what is the what's she? It's uh Sherry O'Terry, right? Yeah, plazer, yeah, from from SNL for sure. Yeah, so I think we can circle back to some more of the casts as we go throughout this movie as they pop up. Some more big names we'll talk about. But this movie is made on a$14 million budget, grows to$173 million. That is an incredible return for your investment. Came out December of 1996. This one for Fangoria Chainsaw. My mom came out in December of 96. I had it was kind of perfect. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 33:32

I'm sorry, nobody's mom here is came out ever, but ever for Fangoria Chainsaw Award wins.

SPEAKER_07 33:41

Best wide release film, best actress for Nev Campbell, best supporting actress for Drew Barrymore, best screenplay for Kevin Williamson. Skeet Ulrich was nominated for supporting actor, but did not win. Oh, Skeet, Skeet, mother. F-O. Let's talk about probably a good first name until Lil John came around, right? Oh who came around? Was it Lil John? Let's talk about the ratings for a little bit for a minute. Metacritic gave us a 66. Is that far too low? 66 is in the green for Metacritic. It's respectable, I think. Yeah. It's a green, but I feel like it's gotta be an 80.

SPEAKER_04 34:22

Do you remember do you remember the episode where Charlie was talking about Nick Cage and how he he always knew where the upper limits and the lower limits of the microphone are? I do believe this went past the upper limits on Hokie a few times in the movie, so maybe that hurt it. Yeah, yeah. Like more the principal getting stabbed. That was that was a little hokey for me. Really?

SPEAKER_03 34:41

It was out of place.

SPEAKER_04 34:43

It's just like his acting on it was kind of like, oh, okay. That's fine. Sorry, Henry.

SPEAKER_07 34:48

Fair enough. I mean, I've so it's 66 is still we've we've seen worse. Oh, definitely. I love I love worse. I've seen there's way worse Metacritic movies that I love, but I don't know. I feel like maybe I'm just a little biased because the way this one impacted me as a child and like formed some of my horror education that I feel like it's just a much better film than with the tagline.

SPEAKER_04 35:11

I'm circling back to that tagline. Remember it's like your love of horror movies will get you some some seven-page thing that you read earlier. Do you think they did a good enough job establishing that Skeet and it's not Skeet, but Billy and Stu were giant horror fans? I feel like we learned that kind of at the end that they were big horror fans.

SPEAKER_07 35:33

It's Randy. Right, he's definitely the one that's the movie head.

SPEAKER_03 35:37

Well, I think they mentioned like when he comes to Sydney's room in the beginning, I think he said he was watching the movie.

SPEAKER_07 35:42

I want to do that whole I want to do that whole line later.

SPEAKER_03 35:45

There's just very small little things that he drops that they'll watch a movie, but it's nothing to like Randy's.

SPEAKER_07 35:50

So I was watching The Exorcist the other night or tonight, and it made me think of you.

SPEAKER_03 35:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:55

Oh, really? Mostly because it was edit for TV.

SPEAKER_07 35:58

We started off a relationship hot and heavy.

SPEAKER_04 36:01

Like going for that Rating, maybe R rating, maybe an NC17, but now we're kind of more edited for TV. Smooth, buddy. Smooth. Smooth. Yeah. Do you use that line on uh your wife? We've been a little edited for TV lately, babe. We're like at kids YouTube right now.

SPEAKER_07 36:24

We're like a TV Y. TV Y.

SPEAKER_03 36:27

It's okay to hold hands.

SPEAKER_07 36:30

Don't interlace them.

SPEAKER_04 36:31

Do not interlace them. That is second base in YouTube kids area.

SPEAKER_07 36:37

The tomato meter? Yeah. Now you're making me uncomfortable. The tomato meter got uh right. 78% critic score, 80% fan score. So both of those higher than the Metacritic rating, both pretty even, the the critics and the fans. Where would you guys rank it on a one to ten? I mean, for me, I it's like nine and a half. I give it an eight.

SPEAKER_04 37:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 37:06

I think I'm at a nine just because it was so much fun, right? It it yeah, it it it impacted me a lot. That's all. So a little biased, I guess, in that regard. There are things you can nitpick here, and I'll I'll throw some of those out there, but yeah, like it's not a perfect movie, but it's it's good. And I and it did, in my opinion, save like a genre. It it if not horror, it saved the slasher subgenre. It brought slashers back. I can agree with that 100%. You know, I think without this, films maybe like the Final Destinations and You know, 13 Ghosts, like some of these maybe don't get made without the success of screen. Or they get made, but they don't get as they don't get the hype, they don't get the marketing. That's what it yeah, that's what I'm saying. A new generation to keep it going.

SPEAKER_04 37:47

Like you focus too much on keeping your current demo happy or the current one that's growing with you. You forget about there's it's been 10 years, there's a whole new crop of people that are doing different things in high school, right?

SPEAKER_03 37:58

Yeah, yeah, kind of attract the millennials, yeah. But I'm sure that is not what they were thinking.

SPEAKER_04 38:04

Mike's favorite actress, Lev Nev Campbell, in a movie, and you're right there.

SPEAKER_07 38:11

Yeah, you know. Uh let's talk a couple of the reviews, some of the bad ones. John Hardle from film.com says that Wes Craven Res Craven basically doesn't know when to stop with the jokes and tell a coherent story. Totally disagree. Thought it was a good blend of a little bit of humor with a pretty easy-to-follow coherent story. Not that hard. Yeah. Variety, which we've talked about, is a pretty tough critic for for horror movies. Says that though the material is more intelligent than the norm, it has an and has an unusual third act twist, it employs very clunky stereotypes. I think that is because it's trying to inform people and educate people on horror. Like the stereotypes are there to like it's part of the storyline, it's part of Randy's whole gimmick is that is like, hey, the if you have sex, you're gonna die, and like that's you know, like that's him bringing these things out uh for everybody. Spoiler alert, I was really hurt in the second movie when he died. I was I was upset. I was like, you can keep Randy alive. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 39:17

Yeah, they pulled him in a van or something and offed him.

SPEAKER_03 39:20

I was like that. But he's is he in the third one or in later ones with the no relatives.

SPEAKER_04 39:25

Relatives are or yeah, there was a tape. You're right. And like I think it might have been four. That there was a tape played.

SPEAKER_05 39:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 39:32

I think the worst uh review, the San Francisco Examiner, they said that an artificial it was an artificial and hypocritical effort to escape the artistic limitations of teenage slasher flicks. What a what like get out of here? That's stupid. The good reviews that Scream got, like everyone that reviewed it positively, they they understood. Good blend of scary and funny, a great third act, great grand finale, Wes Craven resuscitated the genre, etc. Like they all understood. Those are the like assignment. Yeah, those are the people who don't like puppies or fart jokes that you know turn this thing down.

SPEAKER_04 40:08

Yeah. Or puppy fart jokes are the best.

SPEAKER_07 40:12

Anything anything else you guys want too head. That's what Teddy would say about some of those reviews. Yeah, well, rightfully so poopy. So anything else you guys want to hit on before we get into the phone? Before we dive deep, no. All right, good. So the iconic opening scene to Scream Phone rings, little banter, and then what's your favorite scary movie? We get Drew Barrymore, right? Similar to Janet Lee and Psycho, you know, Drew Barrymore shows up, everyone was like, This is the big star of the movie. She's on the poster, on the poster, you know, she's on the the two separate posters. She's like front and center of the second one. She's on the left, but in the front row. And then she doesn't make it out of this opening scene, guys. What? Yeah, I know. It's crazy. So Wes likes to have the uh Drew Barrymore conversation or do we want to talk about this? We can this scene. Sure. Let me let me jump in real quick and be like Wes did this with Tina too in in Nightmare on Elm Street.

SPEAKER_04 41:12

It's like this is going to we're gonna start with her, the blue-eyed blonde. She's going to be our hero, our heroine, if you will. So he likes to do this a little bit. Yeah. But for Drew, I mean, I'll let you guys lead that one if you want.

SPEAKER_07 41:26

I mean, I I don't remember much of her as a child actor, obviously, no E.T. That's the one with the alien. Yeah. Firestar Firestarter. I like I know some of the stuff, but I want to say I don't really I didn't recognize like Drew Barrymore as an actress until like the wedding singer. Because I was 14 when that came out. And so that's around the age I start being like, okay, now I recognize like, oh, that's Adam Sandler. I'm like, you know who actors are. Right. Between the, you know, I I don't think I I didn't see Scream when I was 12 and was like, that's Drew Barrymore. Like, I just didn't know. Didn't put it together. Unfortunately, a lot of her reputation came from her, you know, pretty rough childhood.

SPEAKER_04 42:06

I mean, she was comes from a famous Hollywood lawyer royalty, right? So I mean, she was has the stories of parting as early as like seven years old, like super early stories of just being exposed to things she shouldn't.

SPEAKER_07 42:18

I mean, didn't she like divorce her parents? I mean, what's what's the term what's the term for emancipated? Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_04 42:25

When she was like 15 or something, there's a lot of actresses and actors that emancipate just because they get around child labor laws that way. So I don't know if it was a contentious thing or not, but I do know a lot of actresses and actors have done that.

SPEAKER_03 42:39

Personally.

unknown 42:42

No.

SPEAKER_07 42:42

Personally. I know them. We're friends. Is it too late? Can we can some of us still do that? As a 45-year-old, emancipate myself from my parents. Sorry, Mom. Yeah. I mean, there was a there's a I think when she was what? I don't know how old, but she went on Letterman and like flashed him. Yeah. Got on his desk and like the time frame, yeah. In the 90s. That's partially Letterman's fall, too. I guess I mean I guess she was kind of was she into drugs, alcohol? Yes, yes. Heavy? Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:17

Apparently it was a very early exposure to drugs and alcohol.

SPEAKER_07 43:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:21

Allegedly.

SPEAKER_07 43:21

So I don't get sued. Yeah. Yeah. This movie comes out. The she's wearing a wig, it's not her real hair in the screen. Way to crush everything. Yeah. It's a wig modeled after Michelle Pfeiffer and Scareface. Scarface. Not Scareface.

SPEAKER_04 43:37

Scareface would be a good spoon.

SPEAKER_07 43:39

Scareface was the original title. Where we go on October. No moment. No, Scareface. He had me pulled. Now it's called Ghostface. It was called Scarface. Jesus Christ. So give me another bourbon. There used to there used to be peekaboo. Now I just call it Scareface. You know? That's what I

SPEAKER_04 44:04

It's like Mr. Slepaway camp, right?

SPEAKER_07 44:09

When did Drew Barrymore marry Tom Green? Was that like 99? Oh, it was so short of a series. Somewhere in that time. Were you guys Tom Green fans? No. Tom Green was funny. No. He was in that road trip movie. He was funny. Yeah, I like Tom Green. I like the show. It was small.

SPEAKER_03 44:23

I just remember his pizza song or something.

SPEAKER_07 44:25

Oh, let's hear it. That's on a yeah, he's famously referenced in an MM song. Where's your Liberon, Freddie? I don't see your Liberon. Freddie got fingered. Oh yeah. That's so good. So bad, but so good. I saw bad.

SPEAKER_03 44:44

I think he was in the Charlie's Angels movies.

SPEAKER_07 44:46

Tom Green was? I never saw those. Drew Mary Moore. But Drew Barrymore's in there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:50

They were like love interests. I mean, it was like like the what is it called? Like a gentleman collar.

SPEAKER_04 44:59

Oh, okay. Gentleman called collar. Is that what you call it? Mike was once your gentleman caller.

SPEAKER_07 45:08

I saw um I saw Tom Green do stand-up in Baltimore. Yeah? Yeah. Were you first in the town? No. It was spur of the moment. We were me and some buddies, we were at a brewery, and like, you know, breweries aren't open super late. They close at like 10. So we're like, what do we want to go do next? And there's a comedy club that you know wasn't far from where one of my friends lived. And so we just happened to look on the calendar and saw that Tom Green was in town. We're like, fucking Tom Green. This is like this is like 2017, 2018. I feel like if Tom's way past being famous and probably has been disappeared for a long time from you know stardom. We're like, he's doing this now. I'm like, we gotta go. I'm sure he's got some fun stories and shit. And he's Canadian, and part of his bit is talking about America, and he rattled off all the presidents in order. Because as like a little fun fact about each one is like kind of I'm like basically like yeah, I challenge any I can't do it. I challenge most Americans to be able to do that. I can't do it. There's a giant clump between Lincoln and Ford. I'm just like, yeah, they're all the same. I lie, I can give it a few more than that. But you know, but anyway, he he's he was funny. We had a good time. We had a good it was a good show. He was funny. That was our Tom Green corner. Yeah, Tom Green. So yeah, the opening scene, guys, Jiffy popped popcorn. That takes you back to a certain time period for sure. I think you can get it like like when you're camping, they have them in like the camping stores and stuff because they know you're gonna be outside. They know it's super unsafe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:49

I mean, apparently it just gets smoky. It just gets smoky, and you just put it in the sink, it's fine. Um, no, this the opening scene is I mean, I don't even want to say arguably, but to me was probably the most suspenseful and scariest scene in the entire movie. I still chills. Then it gets like I said, they add in the humor. Yeah, to me, it's the scary scene.

SPEAKER_07 47:08

It's 13 and a half minutes. It's a long cold open. Yeah, it's it's good. And the when you know she hangs up the phone and she's crying, and then the phone rings again and startles her and she screams. Yeah, I mean it's it gives me chills. It's still it still hits, it's still really, really good. Slaps. Slaps, yeah. Okay, okay, Atticus. Thoughts on the opening scene? Do you like it? Yeah, I like the line. Still holds up 30 years later.

SPEAKER_03 47:33

Yeah, it's good. I forgot about the boyfriend popping up in that one.

SPEAKER_07 47:36

Steve. Oh, yeah. Good old Steve. Do you get a SAG card if your line is don't carry?

SPEAKER_04 47:44

Um, what's funny is like I remembered her having a boyfriend, but like I was still as she said, no, I don't have a boyfriend. I'm single. I was like, oh, maybe that's a scary movie or something I'm thinking of, but you know, then Steve. Good old Steve.

SPEAKER_03 47:57

Maybe they weren't official, they weren't Facebook official yet. Right.

SPEAKER_04 48:01

Hey, plays football.

SPEAKER_03 48:02

He plays football. And he's got a kick.

SPEAKER_04 48:04

Kick the living shit out of you. Yeah. Clearly, that always works. Yeah. Oh, did you are we gonna save the voice actor for a later part? No, we can hit it now. What is it? Roger Jackson. The cast was not allowed to meet him in person, only hear his voice on the phone to keep it more disturbing.

SPEAKER_07 48:23

Yes. I think a lot of times a lot of times in movies when they're on phone calls, like there's nobody on the other end, so they have to act the phone call like they're talking to someone. But they he it was on the other end of the phone for the case.

SPEAKER_04 48:35

I feel so bad because he's always at the horror conventions, and I'm not, I was like, eh.

SPEAKER_07 48:40

Sorry, Roger. I mean, I like Roger. He brought an iconic voice for sure. Oh, it's super iconic for sure. Because it's weird because later in the movie, when the when Billy and Stu use the voice modulator at the big reveal, it's like it doesn't sound like it does on the phone. It sounds terrible. Yeah, yeah. But just yeah, super great opening scene set up what's to come, you know, the ghost face villain.

SPEAKER_04 49:07

Uh sets that tone. Sets the tone for the whole thing. He can't fight.

SPEAKER_06 49:18

He gets his ass cut without the movie.

SPEAKER_07 49:20

You would think that both of them would be walking around like limping and shit or like holding their rib. Right. These guys take a ass whipping. Yeah. Man, you would it makes you just want to like keep your curtains closed all the time. All the time. You're there, even when you're out living in the middle of nowhere, like not be having those curtains. Turn on your porch light again. No. Steve. Yeah. Nope. You know, when the parents come home and the dad says to mom, like, go down to the McKenzie's, that's a direct line from Halloween. That's what Jamie Lee Curtis tells the kids to do, go down to the McKenzie's, call the police.

SPEAKER_04 49:55

I guess, okay, so what I said earlier about not establishing them as horror fans is kind of contradicted by the fact that they're asking about the scary movies on the phone calls. But like to me, once again, it's a disconnect between the phone voice and the actual characters, right?

SPEAKER_06 50:11

Right. They don't when they're the people walking around being not killers, you don't know. The only person you do the and you do, in like a murder mystery, you do for a while think it's could be Jamie Kennedy because he's the one who talks about the horror movies and he's they're really in a horror movie.

SPEAKER_07 50:30

Do we want to do this now or later? How many suspects, like realistic suspects, do you think there were like because even the principal at the time when he's holding wave waving around those scissors, they made him look like a I was gonna bring up those scissors?

SPEAKER_06 50:42

The fuck is he cutting with those things?

SPEAKER_07 50:43

I have that as you can cut an entire ream of paper in one shot with those things. Well, like if you do a lot of gift wrapping, you do with some edge trimming later.

SPEAKER_06 50:52

What the fuck? I've never seen just you know, I have a pair of scissors or a super line like that at work.

SPEAKER_07 50:57

Are you cutting like red ribbons like for a ribbon cutting? I just found that. That's what it looks like. It looks like an like an oversized like ribbon cutting ceremony, like for a photo op like pair of with the handle that is like under 13, 14 inches long. That is not for clipping coupons. I don't know. I'll leave my 13-inch joke out. Okay. I was like, oh my god. All right. Well, he does take the mask from one of the boys and like cuts it up in front of him. Like, that's I guess what those scissors were for. When he's scared. For cutting up rubber. That'll see when he's scaring himself. We'll get to that, but like he scares himself like three times. It's hilarious. But yeah, okay. So we had the principal. We had was Dewey kind of a suspect for a minute, or not really. Probably the sheriff, I think, was the sheriff. Because it was after the scene where they where Sydney's in the bathroom and you see the the killer step off the toilet and you see the boots, and then the robe comes down. All right. And then they specifically show the sheriff put his cigarette out with the boots. Okay. And like, so I think they try to maybe think the sheriff's. Obviously, they try hard. We all know that the dad is already. So you're like, oh, maybe it's them. Yeah. Obviously, when they're that overt, it's like, okay, it's not. That was too overt.

SPEAKER_04 52:08

The second time watching it, you see little looks and nods from Billy to Stew and stuff, and you're like, okay. Yeah. But like, yeah. First time you're just along for the ride. What did you think? Oh first time watching it.

SPEAKER_03 52:22

I can't remember the first time, but yeah, no, I think they definitely like kind of divert it around to different people.

SPEAKER_07 52:29

Yeah. And then when you think it's Billy, like, and then Ghostface shows up in the room with Billy's in, and you think Billy's getting stabbed. It's like, fuck. Well, who the fuck? I don't know shit.

SPEAKER_04 52:39

Well, and the phone calls while he's in jail.

SPEAKER_07 52:41

I was fooled by the phone, calling the phone call while overnight. Yeah. Yeah. And this is the first time I'd heard about cloning a cell phone. I'm like, what is that even? And the right thing that was a thing. Sydney had her post nut clarity, and she was like, huh, that call that you had.

SPEAKER_04 52:56

Who did you call? I was like, who would have thought of that? Sorry for the post nut press.

SPEAKER_03 53:03

Like, why didn't she ask that before then?

SPEAKER_07 53:06

Make a small talk because it's so awkward and you lose your virginity. You gotta talk about something. So are we to believe that was the loss of the virginity? Or like she stopped having sex for I think she lost her virginity at that one. Her mom got murdered. She just stopped. It's sad I they made it. They were like, Oh, now you're not a virgin anymore. Like, you know, because she even talks about it to I think she talks about either to Tatum like giving it a without having sex.

SPEAKER_03 53:32

Like what? Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 53:34

Charlie.

SPEAKER_03 53:35

Or second and third base.

SPEAKER_04 53:37

Oh, that's true.

SPEAKER_07 53:37

That's true.

SPEAKER_04 53:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 53:38

Second and a half base. The short stops there. Anyway. Mike, we are throwing you out there. They do a little bit of this. They get to second base in Sydney's room when Billy sneaks in the window. Um in the next scene here. I mean how about a PG 13 relationship? Yeah. Did anyone notice that Blue Oyster cult a cover of Blue Oyster cults Don't Fear the Reaper is playing? That's good. Is that a was that kind of like foreshadowing that Billy might be the Reaper?

SPEAKER_04 54:07

Oh look who's doing extra homework today.

SPEAKER_06 54:12

So here's the Here's the only homework I did because it they play that they play the song several times in the movie or the the the The Red Right Hand or whatever that was the beginning of it.

SPEAKER_07 54:24

Oh cave and the bad scenes. Yes. And that is the theme song for Peaky Blinders. Oh, it is. You're right. I've never seen Peaky Blinders. I was like, where did I saw one episode? Where did I hear that? I saw the first episode.

SPEAKER_03 54:38

I couldn't hear what they were saying. Is it British?

SPEAKER_07 54:41

Is it British? Oi. Irish. Is it British?

SPEAKER_05 54:45

British British. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:45

British.

SPEAKER_04 54:46

Northern England. It's in that area.

SPEAKER_07 54:48

Birmingham. Oi. The second one has a Dave Matthews song. Because it came out on Tuesday. Tuesday. Tuesday. In it. In it. I won't even try. You gotta go all cost me though. Start with the oi. And then the aloe. You gonna take the tube or the fucking motor? That's that's a shout out to our British fans. Yeah. Who we never insult Mike. There's a there's a guy on Instagram that does an incredible act like voice work. I don't know if his girlfriend or his fiancee, whoever it is, is like in on the joke because it's he's got a million some followers and they're making bank off of him imitating doing a great British accent and shit. Even though he's all Australian. I thought you're talking about the guy that does the Asian accent. But he does like all these accents and like you know, impersonating movie characters, and his wife is just like, God, stop. Like it annoys her to death. But like you're making bank. She's probably acting, she probably loves it. Yeah, just saying.

SPEAKER_03 55:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 55:58

I think every wife loves our annoying shit. That's all I gotta say, right, Charlie? Yeah. Once it starts bringing in the bread, that never helps you guys sleep at night. But she'll like she'll like come home from work and he's just like dressed in like full Voldemort, like, and she's just like, oh God. She probably likes it. She's like, stop, but really like doesn't want to stop because it's a pretty fat paycheck, probably. From Instagram.

SPEAKER_04 56:24

I'm making no jokes about no means no.

SPEAKER_07 56:28

Okay, where are we at? So yeah, we get to you know, school the next day. You know, there's no social media, so it's not till the next day, like when people find Sydney gets to school that Tatum fills her on the news and she's like, Oh my god, you're kidding! Like the whole 12 hours went by and since Tatum's brother is Dewey. So we found that out. Yeah, Gail Weathers, Courtney Cox. We see her kind of doing her thing. We don't really meet her, meet her yet. We don't get the whole backstory between her and Sydney yet, but she's there, you know, covering it as a news story. The police are interviewing some students. It's our first glimpse when they interview Sydney that there's more to her than what we've seen already. Malata uncover a complicated life story. Her mother was raped and murdered the year before, almost a year to the day of this murder of uh Casey Becker and Steve Orf. Orf, yeah. I think that's the name. Yeah. The scene where she's in her house later and she says it's like deja vu all over again.

SPEAKER_04 57:28

I was like, Mr. Redundant. What is it?

SPEAKER_07 57:30

The redundancy department of Department of Redundancy Department. I was like, you don't have to say all over again when you say deja vu, Sidney. Right. And then we see, yeah, Principal Henry's played by Henry Winkler, the Fonz. Always good to see him and stuff. Always good. Yeah. We like uh Barry. Do you guys like Barry? The show Barry? I watched a little bit of a seen all of it though. That's good. We like Barry. He's the acting coach. Yeah, it's funny. He's good. Yeah, so good. Stuff like the Water Boys and like four Adam Saylor things.

SPEAKER_04 57:59

There's part of it that Barry show that that are tough to watch just because I'm like, oh, these are these kind of shitty people to be around and like to start comedy though. Yeah, it's fine.

SPEAKER_07 58:09

There's some funny parts. There's no humor in it. I like Bill Hater for sure. Bill Hader's great, great in it. I don't like the girlfriend. That's that's my biggest problem with Barry. It's like, oh, you're better than that, Barry.

SPEAKER_03 58:19

I really like the bald guy.

SPEAKER_07 58:21

Oh, the gangster or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 58:22

Yeah, he's horror his name, but he is funny. Yeah. I'm like, can we be friends? He's cool. And Steven Root.

SPEAKER_04 58:28

Steven Root's good in that one too. Yeah. As the handler.

SPEAKER_07 58:34

You know, so we get a start to meet Stu and Randy now as the kids go out. I think probably like lunchtime. They're out in the quad, they're enjoying the day at school, and they're talking about the murder.

SPEAKER_04 58:47

Probably one of the most iconic scenes as far as like the time frame and it was, and now they're all lounging around and and really getting to know their characters, I would think. Yeah. Because I was like, oh yeah, I remember this where they're laying on each other and they're making off-color jokes and bad jokes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 59:02

I feel like Skeet Ulrich is Billy. I feel like he's playing it in a way that he doesn't know he's in a comedy. Because like Jamie Kennedy and Matthew Lillard, they are just like throwing jokes out there. There's they're bantering, and he's just laying back like all serious. And no sense of humor.

SPEAKER_04 59:19

Like, maybe, maybe because like he knows who killed somebody we know, but no, I think I think he's like worried about freaking loose can and Stu over here saying stupid stuff. He's like, I didn't kill it, and no one said you did.

SPEAKER_07 59:32

Like, there's like there's kind of like some baggers thrown at each other in there. For sure. There's not a lot of teenage angst. But I think he's playing it for Johnny Depp. Yeah. Like a Johnny Depp would have played it. And I feel like that's part of the dramatic tone he's going with. That's every character he's ever played, is just more like, okay, give us smolder.

SPEAKER_04 59:52

Oh yeah. You'd think he'd set himself up for like heart throb later. I cannot.

SPEAKER_07 59:59

You mentioned you didn't like his greasy hair. Like his hair hair. He had two little like things that were coming down, the rest was just grease.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:05

Like he's gross.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:08

White t-shirt.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:09

Liver alone, man. Liver alone. That's the I laugh.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:13

Liver. Liver. What? It was a joke. Can they find her clean in the mailbox? Because I heard they found her clean in the mailbox. Was that a Jerry Lewis? Jerry Lewis impression my things.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:24

Yeah. This is my department. It's like you should know that people aren't about this.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:29

Aren't doing Jerry Lewis impressions in 1996. Right. What was um what was the other movie you were upset about? Oh, it was Friday the 13th, they're doing Catherine Hepburn and Humphrey Bogart. I'm like, people are not doing these at this time.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:42

Right. Not people that age. Yeah. I mean, I'm still doing Borat impressions, so I guess. I know, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:00:49

Yeah, but you're not in high school.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:50

Right. If somebody's in high school right now, they're not doing borat impressions. Very fair. Right?

SPEAKER_07 1:00:55

They're doing six sevens.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:57

Right. No, they're not.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:58

They're not doing that anymore. Bullshit. It is funny to see it get down to like your kid's age, though, like the six sevens. That's hilarious. I keep trying to tell Teddy no one's doing that. He's like, Noah still does it. Noah still does it.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:13

Is that your house at 67? Digging. I'm coming over to your house.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:17

Keep it cold. Sarah goes, this is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:20

Well, it's the winter time and it's fair.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:23

That's fair. No, we sleep at 66 and we keep it at uh 67. And you bang at 67. Oh, sorry. Sorry, I had to guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:34

Telling you, it's YouTube kids at our house.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:36

Okay, okay. Had a different TV over there. Yeah. So then we get, you know, Randy delivers that sliced and diced, which is part of our intro. Yeah. I felt like that was a pretty cool line.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:48

I thought it was like a quote from another movie. I was like, what movie is that from? We watched that.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:52

Where have I heard that before? I'm like, uh, you listen to this podcast that you're about to be on.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:57

We talked about this a little bit, but this is by far my favorite Jamie Kennedy.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:02

Well, easily.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:04

Easily. I never watched his show. Malibu. B Rad. Malibu's most wanted. B Rad. Didn't get much better for me. He still did a lot of stuff, but nothing I don't think anybody's really heard of. Matt Andy stuff. A lot of TV episode here and there, but nothing, nothing crazy. Matthew Lillard, you want to talk about him for a minute? Love Matthew Lillard. 13 Ghosts is amazing.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:35

Even his role in Five Nights at Freddy was great. Like every time he's in it, I'm like Shaggy. Yeah, he's great.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:42

Wing Commander. Wing Commander? Oh, yeah. Star Commander. It was a Wing Commander. Yeah. Yeah. He was in that. Yeah, he's great. Hackers. He was hilarious in hackers. I never saw SLC Punk. I'm going to be honest. Serial Mom? Yeah. Serial Mom. He was in that? He must have been super young. Oh, really? Okay. That was John Waters film.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:02

Pussy Willows.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:03

Yeah. Pussy Willows. So Matthew Lillard's. This is the cocksucker residence. Shit.

unknown 1:03:11

Bam.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:12

Despite hilarious. Despite what Quinn is Quinn Tarantino, despite what he says, Matthew Lillard is fun.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:21

Yes. Okay. It's a joy when you see him show up in something. It's always a good time.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:25

He's annoying in this movie, but he's supposed to be that, like, you know, uh, sticking my tongue out and like just over the top.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:32

And I think he's great. He's amazing. Love it. He did a fantastic job in this. Are we saving the hoose? I think there's anything.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:39

Is there a race to I'm feeling kind of woozy? No.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:43

We'll do that later. We'll do that. Don't get overzealous. Get out of it. Got me deep, man. Yeah. So now we get like, you know, Sydney gets her, you know, call from the killer back in her home. She's waiting for Tatum to pick her up, and she falls asleep, gets a call from the killer. Practice went late. And then, yeah, so this is her running with her. And she kind of calls, she's kind of not afraid. Goes outside, calls the killer's bluff, like, what am I doing? I don't see you. You don't see me. Whatever.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:13

Badass bitch.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:14

She isn't standing up. But but then she does the thing that she's like, you know, she thinks it's Randy the whole time. And she's like, I don't, you know, you know, I don't like that shit. I like that sexy voice, Randy. You know, scary movies are all the same. A big breast of girl who's running up the steps, and then she go out the front door. It's insulting. And it's like her famous line. And then when she gets attacked, where does she run? Insulting.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:38

But I do I like Wes Craven's approach to these quote-unquote final girls. I know that we've debated that topic a little bit, but like Nancy and Sydney are both proactive.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:49

Like they're both versus, you know, she did have an escape route on the second floor. They show you that when she enters the house before she was gonna go.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:57

Her little her little secondary lock system with her closet door, that's pretty nice. And her like freaking chatting 911.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:05

Yeah. Sound like war games, Matthew Broderick. Right. Would you like to play a game? Yeah, I didn't know you could do that. They didn't really like explain that she was like a computer nerd that had that kind of setup, but well, she's I think she's smart.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:22

She was on there absolutely survival mode. Like I can't, okay, I can't dial it. What am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_07 1:05:26

Yeah, smart, right? Her phone was dead or whatever. Yeah. But the phone was the phone was off the hook, or like because she was on the cordless, it gets knocked out of her hand, so the phone is still like on the hook. Yeah, it's just like what Drew Barry was getting because her mom could hear her peep on the phone. We forgot about that. It was super effective. It was her being dragged and like having the phone. Kids these days wouldn't understand. They're like, why does that other phone not work? Why not?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:50

Why is there a phone in the hand? What is that noise? What is that beep beep beep beep beep? What is that noise?

SPEAKER_07 1:05:54

What's that thing sticking out of the top of the phone? Cordless phones were notorious to the phone. Where's the camera? Dewey comes, Billy comes in the window, it was like, Yeah, yeah, they said I scared him away. Phone falls out of his pocket. And then she thinks it's Billy because you know because it fucking was Billy. Right? She was correct. Yeah. The best that's almost one of those red herrings where you're like, that's too obvious. Right? Yeah. Like, okay, they were too early. Billy to follow the phone, and now we the phone. A phone doesn't just fall on your phone. I think that was on purpose, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:28

I think it was like a hey, this is so obvious we're going to discredit it, especially in this next part. But when the when the sheriff was like, What's a boy like you doing with the cellular telephone? That was amazing. That was the most 1996 thing of this movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:44

A cellular telephone. Yeah. Yeah. It's like all the kids have them nowadays, he said, or something. Yeah. So then you know, the police station, they're doing the interrogation on Billy. It is Billy's dad sitting next to him, right? I think so. Because I in the credits, he's the guy credited is credited as like Hank Loomis. Another Hollywood. And so, and even like the sheriff is like, because he makes a comment.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:09

I think his dad's a lawyer.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:11

Is he? Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:12

I think there's a comment that is.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:13

Well, if your son's gonna be a murderer, you might want to be a lawyer.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:15

Well, and he's got a cell phone, so it signifies a cellular telephone, a cellular telephone.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:20

A telephone.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:22

So he's got some money.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:23

But later in the movie, when Sydney asked him that question, like, who'd you call when when you're when you were in jail? Call my dad. He's like, called my dad. And she's like, No, I saw the sheriff call your dad. And he's like, No, when I called you didn't answer. I'm like, Well, wait, your dad was sitting next to you. So like No, this is like after he's booked. Well, his dad was already there. No, they this is after he's booked and he gets his one phone call, I think. Oh, okay. So this so when we see his dad, the sheriff's already called him and been like, Your son's arrested, you need to come down here.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:54

Okay. I I thought when he was being interrogated, then they put him in jail maybe after that, like after Sydney leaves or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:02

I think Sydney was walking out of the office and he would they were like his dad was walking.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:07

I didn't know if that was like a continuity error, like he like said he called his dad, but they like like they wrote the script and forgot that they sat his dad next to him in the fucking police station.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:17

No, he was getting arrested. He's like, call my dad, and I didn't do it.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:20

That's true. He did say that.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:21

I guess the sheriff was also a nightmare on Elm Street. I just wanted to throw that out there and not talk about it any further. Yep.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:28

No, you're you are correct. You are correct. So okay, so not not an air air then. I I didn't know if the the phone call to that you would get would come later in the process, but last time I was arrested, they gave it to you pretty uh early in the process.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:43

I bet they gave it to you pretty early in the process.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:46

Or like you, they'll be loving you from duck till dawn.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:49

Like you're walking funny.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:51

Oh wow, no. You uh you got this dynamic rubber selling you for a pack of cigarettes, pack of ramen noodles.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:00

Extra seasoning.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:02

So it's not sounded like a double and tanger there, says so. This the police station scene leads to the you know where they say, hey, you can buy this costume at every five and dime. The costume is called Father Death. It's not called Ghost Face, it's not called The Scream, it's just called Father Death. The fun fact is they actually discovered this during scouting. They did not create this costume for the movie. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:31

Yeah. Well, I don't know if that was coming up or not. That is a fun fact. I normally let's some people would say, let us decide if it's a fun fact. I'm like, nah, I'm gonna tell you it's fun.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:44

But this leads us to you know, Gail coming in the sideway, that coming down the alley to get some you know, other angles and meeting Sydney in the alley when uh Dewey's gonna take him home and Gail getting her face mangled. Yeah, I'll send you a copy. Good part. How's the book? I'll send you a copy. Bam! Bitch went dead.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:04

I love I love Tatum in this movie, and that's uh I was saddest when Tatum. One, because Rose McGowan's super cute, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:10:11

But like her she was fun. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:14

Watching again when she was like told to go get the beer, and I was like, ah, damn it, don't go get the beer.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:19

Right. Don't go get the beer. And then like, like, why did she wait? There was Are you saying she had some THO going on? But like, why did she roll under while the thing was up? I don't know. She had a moment.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:32

Yeah. We talked a lot about moving down on Planetary Pine. She could have fit through that doggy.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:37

She could have fit through that. It's like it got smaller.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:41

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:42

Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:43

The big part got through. What big part? Big parts. I mean, yeah. Her hips were definitely smaller than the boobs. Is that what you're saying? She didn't even try. Yeah. We'll get to that. Oh no, she was winning the fight. She should have just started ground. She must have been throwing those beer bottles like 200 miles an hour for them to break on impact against a nuts. One thing I wish I knew was who was Ghostface when, right? I want to I want to know we'll talk about that. I want to talk about that too. That was one of the questions I asked you guys. But yeah, uh Rose McGowan's great in this. And like we talked about some of her complicated Hollywood stuff with On the Planet Terror Pod, and we don't have to rehash any of that. But yeah, Rose McGowan, she's she's fun in this. She's she's good. On second watch we've seen.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:28

On Second Watch, when back to that scene when they're on their bench by the fountain, like they even painted Stu as having a motive. Didn't you used to date Casey Becker? Yeah, so I'm like, they did a lot to point us in Stu and Billy's.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:43

You told me you left her for me.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:46

That's pretty good. Yeah, that's really good. That's my Tatum. Then this sets up the next the killer calls her, calls Sydney again while they're at Tatum's house. So this almost kind of rules Billy out from what we know because Billy's in jail. And you know, the killer calls and then hangs up, and like Dewey picks up the phone. He's like, hello.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:08

Dewey picking it up.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:09

That's made me laugh again every time. Every time. Hello. He was just vacuuming his room. That's Doofy. That's Doofy. I'm gonna say this is like one of those scare fish.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:18

Weren't they both at the Scarefest? They were too.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:21

Uh Atticus has actually the whole family has a picture. Like Doofy's hugging me from behind and like David Arcats over there. Isn't he holding the vacuum? He might be. I'll have to pull up the picture. But like I was just like trying to stand like normal. He's like, don't do that. And he put my arm around him and he like hugged me. I'm like, alright, Doofy.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:41

I'll post it for the uh for the uh there you go. Put it in your skin. The Graham, if you will. So that sets up our next kill. Is the next day at school is that you get the two kids running down the hallway in the ghost-faced costume, and Principal Hembry uh brings him in, dresses them down, expels him. He's got those big fucking scissors we were talking about, cuts up the mask right in front of him, expels them. They're like, hey, what you can't do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:09

Do you think an expulsion was I feel like I was like, yeah, that's pretty severe.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:13

I feel like oh yeah, okay. He's not he's not holding the vacuum cleaner. I thought he was doing the salute holding the end of it or something, but yeah, Sarah's a little too excited in that photo to be next to David Arquette. Former WCW heavyweight champion David Arquette. Yeah, world's heavyweight champion. Almost I mean he left blood, sweat, and tears on that map, probably. You know, I'd be excited too. That's why he has that restraining order, Mike. Don't bring the vacuum. Don't bring the vacuum. So I don't know. Is expulsion too severe for a badge? Well, think about think about it. Well, still it's too severe.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:53

Yeah, like it's a expensive joke.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:56

Right. I think a suspension would have been fine. A couple of their classmates were murdered by this killer wearing this, and then they come parading down the halls in it. Expulsion. Imagine I I don't know what to compare it to, because I'm like if someone died, okay, murder at your size. Let's say this is gonna get really dark. If if if kids went to if kids went back to school the day after Columbine in trench coats, making fun of the events, right? To scare people. Would that be so expulsion? They would make an example. You're right, you are right.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:33

They would make an example to curb that to you know curtail that behavior. Right. Right. But I don't know if it'd be expulsion or like suspension. In bad taste.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:43

Definitely in bad taste, right? But yeah, he's uh he he makes an example of them, spells, expels them, and whatever. Or maybe it's maybe it's like the NFL. Like you give a harsh punishment, then they can appeal it, and then they'll be like, okay, we'll just suspend you.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:57

Or maybe they make one either think that those kids are ghost space.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:00

Another red herring. Oh, yeah. And they had the costume.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:04

And then maybe that's why the principal dies.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:06

That's true.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:07

That would be a good motive to kill that principal. Somebody was holding scissors on you like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:11

Yeah. Oh, he gets Mary Marie coming up with a little bit. You want to talk more about this scene. He gets real close with those scissors. Hold them up to their face and like like the kid's nose off. I know it's camera tricks, but he's just whipping them around and whipping it around. What? And then when the kids, when the kids leave, we get the most famous cameo in this movie. We get Fred, we get there, who's dressed obviously like Freddie Kruger. What did he call the kids? He was like, sons of bitches or assholes or something. And like Fred goes, What'd you call me? No, not you, Fred. Oh, he's like little shits or something. Oh, little shits.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:48

What'd you call me? Not you, Fred.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:50

Not you, Fred. And who was that? Who was that? Wes Craven. Wes Craven. Just in Freddy's garb, mopping the floor. Yeah. Did you catch that? I did.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:02

I didn't know it was Wes Craven, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:05

Yeah, it's Wes.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:06

Because I'm so knowledgeable about directors.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:08

More fun facts. Fun facts. Fun facts. Now for Charlie's revenue. No, Wes Craven is one of those that has transcended Charlie's. Yeah. You know.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:18

Yeah. I know who he is. But um I know the name. I figured. He did that one with the guy with the knives for fingers. Yeah. So he's playing. So Mr. Hembry's playing with the mask, scares himself. He's putting the mask on, looking in the mirror, and then he like turns around, forgets he's wearing it, looks back, and scares himself. Searches his closet, scares himself again because there's a mirror in there. Yeah. This is the best.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:40

I I love his came.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:42

I love Henry Winkler's role, but like when he was dying, it was it was a little yeah. And like you're getting the ghost face in the eyeball, that camera's good. That was pretty cool. And and Mary Marie, you noticed, and I didn't pick up on it before, but that his the blind is up on his door, and then when ghost face is hiding behind the door, the blind is pulled back down. And so that's you're like, oh, the blind's pulled back behind the door. Yeah, you picked that out. Very good many times I've seen this. I was like, I never knew noticed the blind being up versus down. Nice. Good pull there.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:15

Not that I would be a killer, nowhere to hide. Yeah. Just I know where they would be.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:19

Right. You're short enough, you'd be below that window anyway. Probably.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:23

Why did he leave his office? What did he hear?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:25

He heard knocking. People were knocking on the door. Like he walked away and they snuck in there, I guess. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:31

Okay. That's how they got into the other houses. We could uh you know the mount. But he had already declared a school's canceled for curfew indefinite, right? And all that stuff. And they had, you know, students setting up the house party kind of thing, like bring some food, gr tell your friends, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:49

And then um if I could have a note on what I would have happened, I wish that old ghost face would have came down and killed those two girls that were talking shit on Sydney in the bathroom. And then that's the reason they canceled classes for a while, right? I hate those scenes where it's like they're in there and they can't do anything about it. And it's like, what if she went delusional and her mom's a big old slut?

SPEAKER_07 1:18:12

Right. It's like, damn. Yeah, everybody knows that. More stuff about Sydney's mom, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:16

What do you think Ghostface was waiting in the bathroom? Yeah. Like, how do you think that?

SPEAKER_04 1:18:21

Let's just say hemorrhoids would start to happen in a while.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:25

Like, what if it was like one of those like what is it, white girls or white castle situations? Shitshi wishes.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:32

Shit. When when uh what is it? Marlon Wayne. My battleship.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:42

He's like, I can't.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:43

What's that from? What was that? The Saint My Battle movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:45

Oh, they're the second one or the first one. No, that's probably the first one.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:48

But white first is the battle cheese is from That's Harold and Kumar. Oh, that's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:55

Oh, yeah, the two girls. The two girls, yeah. He had the quiche.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:59

He had didn't know cheese was in quiche. And you just see his legs just uh let's talk more about shit humor, guys. Always Van Wilder is a good one, too. Always works. Van Wilder when he's shitting in the bucket or whatever.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:13

I think I'm bleeding. Oh yeah. Oh, that's a classic. Yeah, so good. The donuts.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:23

You're like, mmm. No, wait.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:25

No, the donut scene makes me gag every time. Like they're letting it drill down. And that dog has some nuts on him.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:35

Anyway, different movie. Yeah. So we get some more horror education with our trip to the video store where Randy's working. There's a bunch of kids going to rent movies for curfew and big run in the horror section, and Stu shows up. I love when Stu shows up but sneaks up behind him and just like and like knocks the movies out of his hand. They're just ball busting. I feel like Stu had a thing for Billy. I'm gonna just say that, but anyway, we'll talk about that later. That's pretty common. Okay. A lot of people think Stu and Billy were lovers. Yeah, I'm sure my daughter would say, like, she's she tries to find those ships all the time. Yeah. Yeah, you're not the first. She's not the first to pick that out, I don't think. Don't tell her. Okay. Let her. I mean, they share the love of murderings. And horror movies. They like sticking things into each other.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:25

Wait, what do you guys think? And uh gross Charlie.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:29

A lot more uh you know, horror education going on at the video store. We talk more titles and actresses, more rules and fun lines though. If you're the suspect in a horror in a horror movie, why are you standing in the horror section?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:40

Like you know, talking about they're kind of picking apart the theme to this movie and the plot by saying, Hey, you don't want to lose your audience by making it too complicated, and you know, so all this stuff, but it's good stuff. Yeah, and we get Randy Rance, Randy be Randy.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:56

That would be his YouTube channel, Randy Rance. Randy's Rance, he didn't live long enough for that, though. Unfortunately. After the video store, it's the house party, right? And couldn't play, you know, the house party.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:08

The convenience store.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:09

Yeah, they're picking up food, and there's like one more time where the sheriff tells Dewey, like, don't let Sydney out of your sight. And he's eating that ice cream. Yeah, where have you been? He's like, I was with Sydney, and he's like, Got an ice cream cone. It seemed like he was taking a look every time the sheriff was taking a pull on the cigarette.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:23

I like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:24

Did something happen at the convenience store? I can't remember.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:26

Something did happen. Ghostface shows up in a reflection, like he's following him. Oh, yeah. Which is weird that he'd be in broad daylight in a grocery store and creeping around like a Scooby-Doo. Nobody would like notice him. Yeah, it was very Scooby-Doo. But like nothing, but nothing happened, yeah. And then, you know, the sheriff tells Dewey not to let Sydney out of your sight, and then the next scene, Dewey's dropping him off the house. He's like, see you later. Then there's like a town curfew. Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:51

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:52

Oh, they also referenced the movie The Town That was Afraid of Sundown. Do they?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:00

Yeah. Tatum did, I think. Tatum also said West Carpenter on that part. Yep. A lot of fun references. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:09

Calls it a West Carpenter. I I almost guarantee you that they had it written where Dewey drops his ice cream cone and steps it out, too.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:18

That that would have been funny, but it was too much, I think. Too much. Yeah. Over the top. That's a scary movie region. But it was great. If that would have happened, I would have left.

unknown 1:22:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:27

So he drops off, they get to the house party, Dewey drops off Sidney and Tatum, and he leaves, but like three minutes later, he's like coming back in the house with Gail. Like he's just gonna hang out. That was I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:39

He's trying to show off for her.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:40

Oh, for sure. Yeah, but but it's like it was 24 for Gail. Let's go inside. Like having this You're 25, and it's a house party. We're high school students and coming in like a cop uniform. Like cool. She laid that groundwork earlier that she might be into them, and then she asked if she could come along. Well, because she wants to get close with the students. She wanted to put cameras and shit in there. Right. She's using him for ulterior motives. The 30 seconds of left. That's not till later that I think she's thinking with his right head. Oh, right. What do you I don't yeah? I don't get it. We only have one head, right? Yeah. But but what is what is he? Yeah, I don't know. But I feel like he was like gonna leave and be gone for the night, and then he rolls in like three minutes later, like he's just gonna hang out. So this is during that scene with the cigarette and the ice cream cone, we learn that Sydney's dad is number one suspect. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:28

So can't get a hold of him.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:29

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:30

They can't get a hold of him.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:31

They didn't stay at the Hilton, can't find him at the Hilton. Yeah, can't find him anywhere. And and they that's when Dewey's like, is it possible a cell phone couldn't be cloned? And first time I saw this, I'm like, what does that even mean? I know the clones, what they do with the sheep. Right. I don't understand the A V part of this where so Gail drops the camera and sneaks it in to the room, and then it's not until she gets back to the van and they some whatever they do. It's a delay.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:57

It's a delay.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:58

Yeah, but why? Because it's it's it's a remote, it's a wireless type thing, I guess. I mean, I know like how TV works, like satellites has to go up and come down and but I it has nothing to do with from the time she put it there to the time she gets back to the van. He asked. Because that's what the cameraman says.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:15

Well he asked her, like, okay, so when when did you like place it and walk back? Because he noticed she was just in there and she just walked in.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:22

Yeah, he noticed the delay because she came to the door and he's still seeing her on the screen, right? Okay, so it wasn't something that was like she said it, then they she had to get back to the van, then it would work, and it took that long. No. Okay. She was still on the camera. And I think did he say like how long did it take you to get here? Yeah, he's like, how long did it take you to get here from the door? Like 30 seconds? Like, that's how long the delay is like 30 seconds. So yeah, I mean, I know like TV works, like I go up to satellites, it comes to the city. Doesn't sound like you do, Mike. But I didn't, but that little camera's not going to the satellite, that one's just going straight to the van.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:56

Right. Yeah, but like there's no movie plot, but that's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:01

The technology at the time. At the time, I'm Sissy on this one.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:06

Yeah, it's not like Bluetooth or something.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:08

Yeah, come on now. I've seen Charlie on a Zoom call where he's like 10 minutes behind.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:19

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Let's uh let's talk about the next kill, which is Tatum. Oh, Tatum. Poor Tatum. Let's course him out for you. We talked a little bit about it already, but is she credited with coining the term ghost face? Probably she's the first one to say it, yeah. Before she realizes she's in terror, she's like thinks it's roleplay. Like she thinks it's due, and she's like, you know, Sydney'll freak if she sees you in this, like, take it off. And then she's like, Oh no, Mr. Ghostface, don't kill me. I want to be in the sequel. And that's the first time they say ghost face. And then it's in like I said, the costume is called like father death. It's you know, the mask itself is based on the screen painting, right? The munch painting? I don't know. The painting that's the scream, that's what the mask is based on, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:26:05

Well, it the mask was like I said, like it's covered in scouting, it's already out there, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:26:09

But yeah, I can see that being but I don't I is she the one that's credited with coining that term? First one I heard this. I can we can we give her that credit? Sure. Stamped it. No one else has stealing my heart in 1996. You can give her that credit too. And then they broke it.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:28

They broke it by killing her. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:30

I'm gonna say that garage door motor is not unless it's the most powerful garage door motor on the planet Earth, yeah, is not lifting a body. Okay. And they don't have a light switch for the garage. There's no safety.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:43

Oh, so a lot of garage doors, if you hold down the button, it'll override safety stuff. So maybe he was holding down that button.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:51

Fascinating. I don't know. Like I said earlier, she shouldn't have ran. She was winning that fight. She was winning that fight. Yeah. More bottles. I mean, she she's got an arm on her. Or just she's accurate.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:00

She had the fridge on her side. Like, just go back and grab the bottom.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:03

Oh, she whips the door open, like knocks the door.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:05

You like the three of us, I mean, probably Sissy's noticed this in a million movies too, but like there's so many times where they're down and vulnerable to another strike to the head or something, right? Like, but it's it's all like paying homage to the other horror movies. We're still working within these. This is how a natural person's gonna do. They're not gonna hit them and then smash their head in with something.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:26

Well, you're probably gonna try to flee.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:28

Right. Yeah, yeah. But not through a little doggy door. So we so we agree that they took some liberties with the garage door mode here. Okay. What do you think? The original script. The original script had it had it where the the door was gonna come down on her knife. Oh, that would have but and then an assistant was like, You should have like a doggy door she tries to get out of and have it go up. And they were like, That was better. It was better. So it was pretty good. She would have made it. It lasts longer. Like the kill lasts longer because then you're waiting for it to go up and up and up and It's like shaking. Or just come back out. You know, don't don't let it be. But I think it's with this again with the safety stuff. If if she's on the ground and it comes down on her neck, like those things have lasers so that it doesn't operate.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:12

The one I had grew up in a home, it did not.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:14

You could just like get your didn't have one at home? It could just like go come down on your foot, your arm, like whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:19

Oh not enough to cr kill you. Right. Probably to bend the bottom panel of the garage door.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:27

Yeah, I think originally they weren't built with that safety device.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:30

So one of my favorite things to watch on TikToks is people trying to close it and then run out and jump over.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:42

Every time, you know. We should have a doggy door challenge. We should have a doggy door challenge. So Tatum's kill. R.I.P. Tatum. Relax with him a lot. Party feels like it's winding down. Bunch of people are leaving because of curfew. And that's when Billy shows up. The other reason they leave. They get that call. No, that's not yet. Oh, okay. Now you're not. That's not yet.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:03

I think, yeah, I think some people are just like.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:05

Yeah, they're and like yeah, Stu's like shaking hands, like six, seven, eight people are leaving. He's like high five and shaking hands.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:12

Stop.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:12

It's like they watched the movie and they were petered out, and they're like, okay, no one hoped.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:17

But then there's still like a dozen people hanging out, and that's when they start watching like Halloween with uh with Rainbow.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:23

Quick note I've never been at a party where there's been this many people enthralled by an old horror movie in my life.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:31

Like never. I there was one time that I when I was in high school, I watched Rocky Horror Picture Show with maybe like 12 people. That's like the only time.

unknown 1:29:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:45

That a high school. That's fair. It wasn't even like a it was all it wasn't like there was a party going on and we were watching a room and the other like you wish. It was twelve of us at the house and we watched Rocky Horror Picture Show. But they were like on baited breast for every every note that Randy was saying, they were like eating it up with the spoon. I'm like, come on, guys. Like he's holding court. Right. Like everyone, like not everyone would not shut the fuck up and like hold court. No, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:13

I know. I'm like, no one's sitting there and watching a whole movie drunk. Like as a skunk, like they are.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:19

Yeah. And they're far into it too. It was funny though. They're already like an hour into that movie. When he hit the rules, it is a good scene, though. I do like the scene. You don't know about the rules? Are we there yet or no? Drinking. Yeah, close. It's when Billy No sex. Boom! Billy shows up and goes upstairs with Sydney because they have to talk, and that's when Randy walks over Stu and he's like, What's Leatherface doing here? That's a good line. I love the way he delivers it. Do you think I have a chance with Sydney? Um, and then and then while they're upstairs when he's doing the rules, and he's like, he does the rules about like the no sex, and they cut to upstairs and they're getting ready to have sex. Gratuitous tit scene. Oh, here yeah, here comes the tit shot and she's taking her shirt off. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:03

I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't know why Sydney like slept with him.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:07

Right. Yeah, she's there's a couple reasons.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:09

One, she put him in jail. So it was guilt sex, I think. Right. And she had that conversation with Tatum about this.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:16

Why is he dating her at all?

SPEAKER_04 1:31:18

Is she dating him? Has anybody ever heard that is this the first time sex anorexic has been quoted? Because I think sex anorexic, that's a good little line. That's a band name right there. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:29

They opened for uh Green Day back in 97.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:34

We're sex anorexic.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:36

Oh we're gonna We're not gonna do any. What was the band in Scott Pilgrim? Sex bomb? Sex ba-bomb. Sex ba-bomb. Yeah. We're sex ba-bomb.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:48

One, two other we're gonna blow your minds. And that's all we're gonna blow.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:54

Only over-the-clothes songs for us. Only 1986 and Bailey Joel.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:00

We only do 80s Joel, sir.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:02

So I'm like, because I just didn't understand why she had sex with him. I was like, well, I mean, he's gross. So I'm just like, I don't know. I don't get a girl.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:10

She's looking at me, she must have realized that he's not the killer. She hoped. I think she finally was like maybe guilty enough. I guarantee guilty into it. I guarantee you she didn't get a big O from that situation.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:25

No, she was thinking about his first phone call the whole time you were having sex.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:28

She's thinking the whole time. She's like, if it showed the sex scene, it would have just been a lot of her like just waiting for it to be over, I think. Charlie, thoughts on this? No thoughts. Come on, Charlie. What did he call it?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:43

Like that's probably where her mind went.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:45

They were legal-ish. Seventeens legal-ish.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:49

They were both 17.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:51

Maybe.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:51

I don't know. Um, Mike, thoughts? No, no notes.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:58

One of those scary movie moments that I'm just like, oh god, I'll just think about that scene.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:01

Oh, that's so good. The bush was so great.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:10

Watched that with my mom. Oh my god. Yeah, Mike watched. Mike watched a man get stuck to the ceiling. Or no. Cindy gets stuck to the ceiling.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:19

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:20

I don't think I I did not know how dirty and raunchy it was gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:24

You didn't stop it with the vacuum?

SPEAKER_07 1:33:26

No. You know, and then the Spider-Man to the roof kind of thing from mom. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:34

You're like, I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:38

What happened, Mom? No, you I I guarantee Mike, it was just like, we're just gonna look straight ahead and not say shit. Yeah. That's all you can do. That's the only option. You can't make a joke. So yeah. Anywho, moving on. Sex Babob. So that's when that's when they get the phone call that Principal Henry was hung up at the goalpost at the football field, and then the rest of the party leaves. Because we gotta go see it before they cut him down.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:08

I thought it was weird that there was like a telephone tree for like the principal dying.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:13

Somebody you think that was I mean, that's very possible that it was a telephone tree, but it's also possible that like a friend that wasn't at the party found out, right? Yeah. Do you being at that party? I don't think I'd rush out to see uh my principal being field dressed on a goalpost. Nope.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:32

What about you, Charlie? What if you had six beers? We know you would. What if your tolerance is two beers and you've had six in you because you're 17? Ah, that's true. That's true. Well, I know that I didn't drink till I was 21. Not to brag. It's nothing to brag about. Oh, wait, nerd. So you were nerds. No comment.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:52

Go and get Sissy lived that more, Drew Barry more lives. Okay. Sissy's a nickname for Mary Marie in case the the cast doesn't uh the pod comedian doesn't know.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:04

What is my nickname, Mary Mary? Charlie, it's also our nickname for Charlie Sissy. We like to call him Obern. So we get down to Dewey and Gail go for a walk because they found out that Dewey's Dewey found out that Sydney's dad, or they found out his cares. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:25

He had to go look for an abandoned car.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:30

And Gail goes with him. That was probably called in by Billy or to get them away from the party.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:37

I started planting the seeds that it was her dad that did it.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:41

Yeah. You know, Randy almost gets killed. Or we well, this is when once they leave, this is when their Billy and Sydney have finished and they're getting red dressed, and then Ghostface comes in after Billy. He kills Billy. And we think he kills Billy, and we're like, shit, it wasn't Billy. What the hell? Yeah. Now everyone's going on. And then the chase is on after Sydney. And she falls like out of second-story window onto a boat that's covered. Not convenience. Yeah. Yeah. A flat top boat. No seats, no fishing poles, no fishing poles. Nothing. That's uh winter as well. Lucky fall. Yeah. Lucky fall.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:20

And she finds her friend Tatum.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:22

And then she finds Tatum right there. Womp womp. But she takes off running. To the van. I think she's just running through the field and then she circles back. She's inside the Jeep Dewey's face. Yeah, she gets in the van first. Van first, right? She gets in the van from the first. Oh yeah, and then she crawls from the window. Ghostface goes to sneak up on Randy, and they do the whole thing where Randy's warning, talking to Jamie Lee Curtis in Halloween. Like, look behind you, but he should be looking behind himself. Yeah, so and then he and then Ghostface hears something outside, and that's Sydney circling back to find Dewey and Gail, and that's what alerts him to go outside, and she goes in the news van, and then 30 seconds later. Yeah, they see Ghostface like leave the house. Yes, because she's like, Randy, no, and they see like him leave the house, and then the door opens up and he slits the cameraman's door open.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:12

The cameraman was gonna go help save Randy, is that what he was like? Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:16

Cameraman's a baller, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:17

Get out of there, Cameron. And then as soon as he opened the door, he was like, the bad thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:20

For our audience, we didn't talk about the cameraman. I don't know if he's a baller. No, he was a badass in Deadwood, and he was Oh, and other things.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:28

Have you seen my baseball in Franks and Beans and Something About Mary? So yeah, we get to the news van, kills the news guy. Yeah, then Sydney is gets you know into Dewey's truck, but the keys aren't in there. When she eventually gets out, now she can't tell. Well, he told her that there's a door to get out the back, or he she figured out. The trunk was open. Because she couldn't she couldn't get out both sides, and they're playing this game where this door's gonna unlock and she locks it, and then the colour. Oh, I'm talking about the van, sorry. Where she climbs through the room. Oh yeah. Well, so she when she gets out of the van, out of the police truck, Stewie and Randy are coming after her, and she's got the gun. Because Dewey gets stabbed. Oh, poor Dewey. Did I yeah, I did forgot to hear that. He does get stabbed in the back. Yeah. Stewie gets stabbed in the back because he goes back to the house, and then that's when she comes out, and then they she doesn't know if it's Stew or Randy, because both of them are coming up to her and she's got the gun now, and she's like Yeah, they're trying to convince her. Yeah, like he's the killer. No, it's him. No, it's him, no, it's me. What did she say after she's gonna be? She says, fuck you both. Yeah, and shuts the door. And shuts the door. And then who comes out? And then who is it? Billy. And then Billy comes and knocks on the door. Billy comes down the stairs. Billy comes down the stairs.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:52

He risked losing.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:54

He comes down the steps, and then is it Stu that tries to get back in the house? And Billy lets him in. Yeah, Billy lets him in. And then that's when he says the final line, like, you know, gets the gun from him, and then or no, lets Randy in. That's Randy's. Stu's not there. Let's Randy in and's like, Stu's gone mad, and then Billy says, We all go a little mad sometimes.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:20

Well, shoots him first and then says we all go a little mad for the show.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:22

No, he says that shoots him in the shoulder. Shoots him. Yeah, which is Anthony Perkins from Psycho. Says we all go a little mad sometimes. So he goes down.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:33

We're like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:34

We know it's a shoulder show. But then he the pig's blood was fake. Yeah, she's like but how. Nev is her face is saying, but how. And that's what he's doing. Stu comes in. He does the corn syrup. Yeah. They used it in Carey. For the pig's blood. Yeah. Corn syrup. They're hitting all the big ones. Yeah, they're hitting all the big ones.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:55

Hey, didn't we just do Carey, guys?

SPEAKER_07 1:39:57

It's like you knew we were going to do Scream Nelson. Yeah, and then this final, we get that brings to like the final act, the final, the grand finale where you know Stu comes in and now they it's revealed that both of the killer they're both the killers. They do the voice mod thing, which sounds really shitty. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:17

Because you the thing is, I think, is you hear and then you hear their voice at the same time.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:22

They do a good overlay. Right. So it takes you out of it. Yeah. What do we think about that reveal that there was two killers the whole time? It was mind blowing.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:32

It blew my mind-blowing. I'm so glad Charlie said that because I was gonna be like, it was it boomed my ass.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:38

It was a really good who done it. Yeah. You know, you're like back and forth, like on Billy. Billy, it's Billy. Then it's not Billy. Then you're like, well, maybe it was Billy, but maybe it's in jail.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:52

Yeah, and then like a little bit of Randy, there's a little bit of everybody. Right. And then when Stu pulls out that thing, I'm like, holy shit. Did you ever think it was Stu like during the movie?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:05

Stu, like, yeah, upon second watches, it's definite. Like, but like the first time I'm like, oh, he didn't kill Casey. He's too funny, he's too goofy.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:13

Exactly.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:14

Did Stu kill Tatum?

SPEAKER_07 1:41:16

I think Stu killed Casey. Or was it Billy? Sure. So yeah, let's let's talk about that. I think it might have been Billy. So I think in the beginning with Casey, I think it could have been both of them. Right? Yeah, I think they both would have been there. Sure, one was a good thing. One of them was not gonna like tie Steve to the chair by themselves.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:36

Sure, and then throw the chair and run across the porch and cut them and not be out of breath on the phone. Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:41

So that could have been both of them, right? For that one. Yeah. When they when who killed a Sydney gets attacked. So when Sydney gets attacked, though. Stew. It feels like a stew thing. Yeah. Well, also, she goes in her room and Ghostface is like reaching through the door. Oh, you mean that part? Not in school. Yeah, yeah. So when Ghostface is like reaching through the door with a knife and trying to get in her room and she's dialing 911 on the computer, and then Ghostface disappears, Billy shows up in her window like two seconds later. Yeah. It was like and the phone, they arrest him and they don't find that voice thing on him. Right. So it was both of them doing it. Yeah, it's almost like not enough time elapsed for Billy to the killer on. He seemed a little out of breath. For Tatum, was Stu entertaining at the party before Tatum, while Tatum was getting killed? Stu said Tatum down.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:30

He sent him sent her there.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:31

I would think you yeah. Yeah. I don't think because then Billy doesn't show up until after Tatum dies. And when you watch re-watch it, he like comes into the door frame really quickly and even like gives Stu like a look like hey, it's done. Like God. So maybe they got maybe they had a pack like not to kill their own girlfriend. That's Baller right there. Yeah. Hugh Hugh uh look. Yeah. It's a baller. Same as Will Farrell and Wedding Crashers. Yeah. Ma!

SPEAKER_04 1:43:12

What'd she do back then?

SPEAKER_03 1:43:14

I mean it was surprising that there was two killers. Because a lot of the movies that they talk about in the whole movie, it's always one.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:21

So like they they definitely set you up to an API.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:23

I don't think they brought up one movie where there were multiple.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:25

Are there other movies before this one?

SPEAKER_04 1:43:28

No. Maybe, but I not that I think of or who've done it.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:32

I think Funny Games, but was that after this? Probably. Well, I think you know that's two killers, right? Funny. Well, the American No, that Funny Games was after this in '97. It's crazy. It's the most like make you angry for one part.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:48

When they hit that rewind button, man, I'm like, I want to flip a table right now.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:53

Hope quick, let's set up a monopoly game so I can flip the table style.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:59

Yeah, so maybe they made a pact like not to kill each other's girlfriends. Like, so maybe Billy wasn't gonna kill Sydney. Stu wasn't gonna kill Tatum, but they were okay if the other one did. I don't know if I guess in the bathroom was probably Stu because Sydney had just seen Billy in the hallway. He's that runs into the bathroom. So that one couldn't have been Billy. I don't think he put on the screen mouth. And probably Billy probably killed the principal because Stu is outside telling the girls like to bring stuff to the party while the principal's inside. Well, I don't know what you did, Sydney, but from the on behalf of the whole class, thank you. Right. That whole thing. That whole thing. Yeah, the rest I think Stu's entertaining most of the time until he goes, I'll be right back. I'll see you in the kitchen with a knife, Randy says. Yeah, so then we get the the monologue in a little bit, right? Yeah, the motive stuff and you know it's the millennium. Yeah, it's scary if you don't have one. But then they, you know, Billy says that, hey, you know, your slut mother was fucking my father, and I don't think why my mother left and abandoned me. I don't think Stu knew that.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:06

No, Stu did Stu's the one that's like.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:08

Stu thought it would be more fun to have no motive. Yeah. They're like, what's your motive? He's like, peer pressure. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:16

My mom and dad are gonna be so. You didn't really call the cops, did you?

SPEAKER_07 1:45:22

But then we get the best lines of the movie. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Everything everything stab each other. Well, I mean, when they start stabbing each other, sorry, Billy. I guess I got a little overzealous.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:37

But like, like seriously, though, like he got cut deeper than he thought, so he's like, I'm giving it to you too, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:43

Yeah, and then when Billy goes to club, he stabs him like three times.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:48

I know Billy never gives back the knife. Give me the knife.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:53

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:54

And then they realize what? The gun gun's gone.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:57

I'll stab myself, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:58

I know, Brad.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:59

But put the gun right here, man. He's like uh tap on the table. We can't get the words. He's like, something's wrong. Spitting up blood. Yeah. Gail Weathers shows back up. Gail F and Weathers, who after she got this Sparta kicked out of the Sparta kicked.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:17

Yeah, she got the Sparta bed. This is knocked right out.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:20

Kicked right on the portion that she played dead for.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:22

On top of Dewey's body. Yep. So she comes in to save the day, but not really. And then Sydney escapes, right? Yeah. And then I didn't understand when she escapes, and then she calls and was like, you know, calls and to kind of let him know that to turn the tables kind of thing. I think to torment them. Why put on the closet? She's hiding in the c in the closet. Why did she have to put on the ghost? I thought the same thing. I'm like, what are you doing to stab Billy with the umbrella when she he opened the door?

SPEAKER_03 1:46:52

I think she was just fucking with them. Like fucking guys.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:55

I get it. Yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:56

But like it like it doesn't make like sense for the plot. Like you would think she would have just hidden the thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:02

So Billy and still admit that the cut frames. Who knows?

SPEAKER_02 1:47:05

Oh yeah, they brought her dad out. They brought her dad out.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:08

They admit they framed cotton for her mother's murder. Yep. And that, and then they bring the dad out and they show, like, hey, we're framing him. His car's out there. Here's the phone and the voice thing going in his pocket. Well, he was in the closet. Confirmed they cloned it. Yep. We found him. He stabbed us and left us for dead, but you know, now he's gonna be the killer. Like, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:29

The only one who lives is us.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:32

Right. Yeah. The you hit me with the phone, you dick.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:40

Give me the phone.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:43

Yeah, so it pretty big grand finale. They're stabbing each other. There's a lot of bloodshed. There's, you know, she kills Stu by dropping a TV on his face. She kills. Right? Well, yeah. That's why Stu's like a finger in his wound. Oh, yeah. To antagonize him to get when he's got a knife to her.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:05

Well, they get stabbed with the umbrella.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:07

And then stabbed with the umbrella. Could you actually stab a hole in somebody with the tip of an umbrella?

SPEAKER_04 1:48:11

Not with relatives. Not with that momentum. But like, yeah, I think from far enough.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:18

Maybe not sharp as a lawn dart.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:20

No, it's not as sharp as a lawn dart, but you could you could force your way. It would hurt. It would hurt. I think in self-defense. A deep tissue bruise, but I don't think it would have to be. Yeah, it would hurt. I don't think it would cut the skin.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:33

She has a sharp umbrella tip and stabs and a few times he goes down. Yeah. And then we're cheering for it. Sticks her finger in the hole.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:40

And then Randy, so Randy wakes up, right? Licks it first. Finger popping. Finger popping ass outs. What? Randy pops up. Randy pops up. He lived, right? Yeah, he's like he's. And then he's like, hey, this is the part where the killer comes back for one last scare.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:58

He's never been so happy to be a virgin in his life.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:00

Yeah. Skeep pops up, she pops him in the head. She's like, no, what? Not my story. Not my movie. Yep. Then, you know. Cut to the it's sunrise, the stretchers are taking Dewey away. I guess he lives. He gives a thumbs up, which comes up in later movies where characters are giving thumbs up as they're being and then they uh you know, Gail goes to shoot her news story, which with who? Who are these kids that popped out of nowhere that are like following her with the camera and the boom mic? Who's her new uh who's her new crew all of a sudden? Yeah, so easily replaced. Yeah. So and then that's it. Like, I mean, I I think it's Gail goes into the house.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:44

Like she like I'm like, you ain't going up there, even if you were like witnessed it. Like the cops aren't gonna go.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:48

Oh, the cops have had to have roped that off by the house. That's a crime scene.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:51

It's Gail Weathers. Okay, she can go wherever she wants.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:54

Gail Hailstorm can go wherever she wants.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:57

Did this ending work for you guys? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:03

If you include all the funny jokes and like when they're stabbing each other.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:08

Yeah. Yeah. Stab. Very quotable movie. I had I my bet my favorite quotes are everything Matthew Lillard says in the final seed. Like, it's gonna be a scream, baby.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:18

And he's got you know the copy.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:20

He's really getting animated. He's turning it up to like hit me with the phone, dick.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:26

Peer pressure. With a woozy woozy here.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:32

Everything he says is like he's dialed up to 100. Right. So I think Quentin Tarantino needs to watch this again. Right. Let's see. What else did I have? Here's a question for you guys. Is Dewey good at his job? No. No, he's 25. He's not the fuck out doing. But like he wants people off at house parties when he knows there's a chiller out. Sheriff told him, do not leave her side. He's worried about drops her off and leaves.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:58

When I'm wearing this badge, you have to call me officer. What's the last name?

SPEAKER_07 1:51:03

Officer Riley.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:04

Officer Riley.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:05

And Tatum's like, shut up, Dewey. Shut up, Dewey.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:07

They're like, he's like, that's my supervisor. She's like, the janitor's your supervisor. Tatum's baller. You know, Tatum the name. Shut the fuck up, Dewey. It doesn't even say, like, actually, my name's Dwight. Yeah, we learned that later. Do we? Dewey. Yeah. I think in the second movie he starts mandating. They related because they related because her name's ridiculous, too, right? That's her real name, Gay Weathers, right? Mm-hmm. Sounds like a meteorologist, as she says. Who was your favorite, let's say, below the line actor in this film? So Jamie Kennedy count?

SPEAKER_06 1:51:42

Jamie Kennedy counts.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:43

Isn't that on the poster? Matthew Lillard is on the poster. Is on like the top line. There's no opening credits, but they are But Jamie Kennedy's not on the poster. Is Rose? Rose McGallen is. His role's iconic. Again, sad that he died in the second one. I think he comes back in the third on video. Yeah, third and fourth, yeah. Wrap up, and then his family, like his nieces are in the new franchise. Niece and nephew.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:11

Well, one of them dies. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:14

But they they carry on his legacy of them the rules and all that stuff. His nephew and niece become core four. Yeah. They're part of the core four. Yeah. The four four?

SPEAKER_03 1:52:24

Parkour.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:25

Parkour.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:25

Parkour four four. What? Do you have Shrivers in this for seven seconds on TV? Cotton Weary. Bigger role in Scream 2, Cotton Weary has.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:35

So why did they why did the guys pick Cotton Weary to frame? Like was City's mom sleeping with like all these men at the same time?

SPEAKER_04 1:52:44

Sydney's mom was thirsty.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:46

So she puts the whore in horror.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:49

When she talks to Gail at the school the one time, Gail mentions that is trying to, they're talking about the book in the case. And she's like, No, I saw Cotton leave with that coat on with my mother's blood on it. She's like, No, you saw someone leave with that coat, and that's the same someone that put it in Cotton's car and framed him. And so, like, so Cotton Cotton Weary and Billy's dad, I guess, and however many other people were probably sleeping with Sydney's mother at the same time. I mean, I was.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:24

Everybody's like yeah, I'm asleep with Nev Campbell's mom.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:27

It's like a merry-go-round. Did you see that picture on there? I know, right? She was not thirst trapped, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:35

She just wasn't very photogenic.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:36

I mean, okay, so somebody's gotta be there at last call at the bar, and that's what she was, I think. Yeah. And we just got joined by our 16-year-old, too, so uh he might jump in unannounced here in a minute. Yeah, let's jump in and see. We're going edited for TV mode now.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:57

So welcome, Atticus. Thanks for coming in.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:00

Yep, hello.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:01

Hi, Atticus. Hello. I'm here. All right, my favorite nephew. Just kidding.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:08

This will be interesting to see if he he tones down his normal comments now that his aunt is here.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:13

His favorite. No, just kidding. Wow. Wake up!

SPEAKER_07 1:54:20

Nothing. So yeah. Justin, do you want to eradicus, do you want to give your takes on scream? I feel like you've told us on previous pods this is up there near the top of your list of faves.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:31

I don't know if I've like said this before, but it's actually towards the bottom of my list. No, it's in the Mount Rushmore for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:38

It's like Rush Gore. Rush Gore. Rush Gore.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:41

Mount Rush Gore. Mount Rush Gore, I guess. Well, it's not really. I won't even put the gore scale on this, it isn't high though. We'll get there. I guess it's it's still in a genre. Yeah. Okay, Mount Rushmore. So scream. I this is one of the first like horror movies I think I saw. So like it has sentimental, and I watched like all of them with my mom. So it was just like something me and my mom did, so it just stuck with me.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:08

Oh, that's so cute.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:09

Nice sentimental value. Sentimental.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:12

Don't watch scary movies with your mom like this guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:18

I know. I know. Little Raj here. Oh, I know. Yeah, I always thought it was like a funny. Like it's not intentionally funny, but like there's some funny parts. Like towards the end, it like my parents are gonna be so mad at me. All of all of Stu when they're funny.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:36

Stu stuff is hilarious. Yeah. Who's your favorite character in this?

SPEAKER_02 1:55:40

Stu.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:41

Stu. Yeah. Not Randy?

SPEAKER_02 1:55:44

No.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:45

I think a lot of people love Randy.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:46

Did the two villain thing blow your mind? No, because I knew like so I knew Billy was definitely like Billy. Billy was Billy had to be, and like when he was in jail, I was like, oh, there's probably two people.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:59

Well, they also mentioned once in the movie. Do you think maybe there was a second killer? Did they? They did mention it.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:04

I missed that, I think. Missed it too. I also missed that. Director's cut.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:11

I was a little sick watching it, but false memory.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:16

Brown battlesick.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:19

No comment. Brown.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:21

Brown something. We both were. 48-hour bender.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:25

No, that's Charlie's.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:26

Is it my attorney use the bathroom?

SPEAKER_02 1:56:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:30

So. What do you grade it?

SPEAKER_02 1:56:33

Like out of ten or whatever. 10 out of 10.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:36

Woohoo!

SPEAKER_02 1:56:38

Nice. Fucking tan. Tan.

unknown 1:56:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:41

Is it your number one?

SPEAKER_02 1:56:43

This is probably my number one or number two. Heretic is up there, and Scream is like they're like right next to each other neck and back.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:50

I heard you guys had a fan mail for heretic.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:54

We got some fans that want us to do heretic for her birthday.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:58

We have a fan named Nicole that wants us to do heretic for a 36th birthday, and we are going to do it.

unknown 1:57:04

Yay!

SPEAKER_03 1:57:06

Are you gonna be the special guest?

SPEAKER_02 1:57:07

I'm always the guest. Well, usually.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:11

Your mom's special.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:12

Roll out the red carpet.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:14

No, you don't get red carpet no more.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:16

No, hell no.

SPEAKER_07 1:57:17

Um what else? Favorite, you said favorite character. Let's let's let Mike direct us through the rest of the categories here, and we'll jump in as well. Which kill was the best?

SPEAKER_06 1:57:28

Let Charlie go first. Let somebody else go first. I'm just looking at the menu.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:33

Uh it's gotta be Stacy for me, is the best kill. Stacy. It's the the uh the toying with her ahead of time.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:38

Who's Stacy? Isn't that uh beginning?

SPEAKER_04 1:57:40

Casey Casey Casey. Sorry, Casey, Casey Case him. Drew Barrymore's character, the the cat and mouse, the the introduction to them asking her the questions, followed by the reveal that her parents saw. It was just, you know, that that one's the most memorable.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:57

For me, I think it was Stu. The TV on the head, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:01

In your dreams. How was that a thing for you? Yeah. What about you? Mary Marie, best kill.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:09

I like Casey's kill.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:11

Agreed.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:11

Casey Stacy's kill.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:14

I like just like when she like she finished off Billy, like just the shot to the head. That was rewarding.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:19

That was very much rewarding. Yeah. I think, yeah, Casey's Kill, I think, was the best. That whole it's a 13 and a half minute sequence, and it's the scariest part in the whole. It's so good, and it just drew Barrymore acted the shit out of it, and it was still gives me chills. We learned about stupid Steve. Poor Steve.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:37

Steve. Steve's like, why am I even here, man? Leave me alone.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:40

Bruh. I've never heard the sound of guts spilling out before until this movie. You can hear it. It did spill out.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:48

Okay, so we'll talk about that in the goer, I guess.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:50

But could you escape this? Yes. Yes. Yeah. As long as you're not in creepy Billy's circle of friends. No one, no one was killed randomly, except for maybe the cameraman. Like Yeah. Maybe. Well, even like I don't think but mostly everyone was targeted, right? Like there was a like it was Sydney for a reason, and it was like everyone was targeted.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:15

Sydney was actually beating the crap out of them. All of them. Yeah, like all of them was beating them up. So like I was like, even Casey got a good shot in. Yeah, yeah. I would be like Spoon and like box him, dude. Like Spoon. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:27

So I guess we know Billy's motive for wanting to kill Sydney or to play these games with her. But why does that drive him to kill Casey, Steve? Like, what's their all relationship?

SPEAKER_04 1:59:38

That's the flaw.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:40

That was Stu's ex. I think Stu wanted to be able to do that. Okay, so that's the motive from that.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:45

That's the motive. But like to string the goal was to string all these together and have Sydney as the last one, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:59:53

Frame our death for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:54

We won like an iconic serial killer.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:57

Right. So they had they had to pile the bodies, not just deniability because not just kill the person.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:02

It is a year from the death. So that was a whole like they could deny it.

SPEAKER_07 2:00:06

A sentimental thing.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:07

Say deal was the one in the world.

SPEAKER_07 2:00:09

Right. Okay. I gotcha. Who was the dumbest character?

SPEAKER_04 2:00:15

Wait, I didn't get to see if I'd survive. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we all said yeah. Thanks a lot.

SPEAKER_07 2:00:19

Would you survive?

SPEAKER_04 2:00:20

I know the rules, so I think I'd survive.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:23

You're a virgin?

SPEAKER_04 2:00:24

Definitely the virgin.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:28

No time.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:31

Anicus would survive. I would survive.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:32

I would survive.

SPEAKER_07 2:00:34

Would you?

SPEAKER_03 2:00:34

I think let's see.

SPEAKER_07 2:00:36

Anarchist, would you survive?

SPEAKER_03 2:00:37

I like to think that I would go into like Why would you survive? Go into some like Sydney, like, I ain't gonna die. You're not gonna kill me. Kind of like survival mode, you know.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:46

But I know the importance of the double tap, too, right? Oh, hit them, you keep hitting them until they cannot.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:53

I'm also I'm like, I don't know how to shoot a gun, so I'm like, I would be like Gail with the safety and be like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 2:01:00

True.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:01

So but I know how to handle a knife, so no safety on a knife.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:07

Our culinary school person here knows her knives.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:10

Be like, you want to be slice some dice Julian style?

SPEAKER_07 2:01:13

Prinkle cut. All right. Who was the dumbest character in this movie? Oh, dumb. The principal. I have some candidates for you guys. Okay. We've got the principal, we've got Tatum, and we've got Stew.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:31

My reason for Tatum is trying to get through the doggy door.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:34

I got another candidate.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:35

That was pretty stupid.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:38

What you got? A stew, my reason for that is just going blindly along with Billy. And the principal, obviously, with those scissors. That was my only thing for the principal with those scissors. You don't wave those around.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:50

And where the fuck were those scissors when he was getting murdered?

SPEAKER_07 2:01:53

True. Right.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:54

Did he get murdered with the scissors? Because that would have been great. That would have been a good thing.

SPEAKER_07 2:01:57

No, no, it was the knife. Mike who are your additional characters?

SPEAKER_06 2:02:00

Dewey. Dewey's so bad at his job.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:03

Oh, I guess we don't just dumb characters.

SPEAKER_07 2:02:05

Dewey. He's so bad at his job.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:07

He is not the brightest crazy.

SPEAKER_07 2:02:08

I'm voting Dewey. Yeah. He gets manipulated by Gail. I mean, he's just.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:12

I'm going to wager that he was able to get up and fight, but he laid there like a you know what?

SPEAKER_05 2:02:19

Maybe he was smart and he was like the smart move.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:23

I'm just comfortable.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:26

Against brown bears and psychokillers.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:29

Yeah. He tries to make up in the second movie, doesn't he? He tries to be a little bit more brave. Please.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:36

Yeah. Spoiler alert. He he never mind. I won't spoil anybody's scream movie. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:41

They've had 20 years to watch it. No later.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:43

Like he's he lives until he doesn't, right? There's one of the movies he no longer doing.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:48

Why are we saying this? Now you just spoiled a whole lot of third.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:52

It could be two, three, four, five, six, or seven. You don't know. It's one of those.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:56

Or eight.

SPEAKER_07 2:02:58

Body count, guys. That's a personal question, Mike.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:02

Five.

SPEAKER_07 2:03:03

Six? Seven. Seven. Seven's events. I just want to say one more. It's eight if you count Sydney's mom, which I don't because that was before the movie. Events that happened prior to the movie. So it's it's seven. You mean the tramp? Oh. Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:20

Is that how many times our pussy was Marvel?

SPEAKER_07 2:03:23

Damn. She got destroyed in multiple. Never mind.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:29

Wow. Jeez. Sorry, I forgot we were keeping the speed of your 13.

SPEAKER_07 2:03:32

Yeah, Mary Marie's on her second cut water.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:36

I tried to keep it, but I couldn't.

SPEAKER_07 2:03:39

Gore score, guys. Scale of one to ten. How gory is scream.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:45

I'll do five.

SPEAKER_07 2:03:46

Land some evidence. There are some guts in the beginning. There are some throats being cut. There's some stabs to the abdominal.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:52

I I like four or five.

SPEAKER_07 2:03:54

Five. I go five.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:55

Tatum's head crushing. That was pretty.

SPEAKER_07 2:03:57

Tatum's head crushing is pretty gruesome. But Billy and Stu stabbing each other was probably the bloodiest part of the movie.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:05

I would say five.

SPEAKER_07 2:04:06

Everyone's covered in blood kind of at the end after all that. I said five as well. Blood on the windshield. I think it's bunk of the blood stuff.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:13

So everyone said five, so five.

SPEAKER_07 2:04:14

Yeah. We all said five. That's crazy. There's five of us here, and we all said four to five. I mean five, five, five.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:22

It wasn't as bloody as I remember it. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 2:04:25

Yeah. I definitely feel like it was more vicious. Gun chests through the shoulders. When I was younger. Yeah. Umbrellas through the shoulder. Some fun facts for you guys. We'll be the judge. You'll be the judge of what's fun, even though these are all facts.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:41

Says they're fun, they're fun.

SPEAKER_07 2:04:43

The original concept for ghost face had a white robe to appear more ghost-like. Nah that's not good. Except that looked too much like the KKK, so they went with black instead. Good choice. Good choice.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:56

Not thinking that I'm like, nah.

SPEAKER_07 2:04:58

They probably walked in the room and that were like, ooh, no.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:01

It looks like he just came out of his church choir.

SPEAKER_07 2:05:03

This is the 90s, man. You can't do that. It's not practical. The blood would get on the white, you know, and just ruin it. The original title of Scream was Scary Movie. Was it Scare Face? Well, which is, of course, the title of the parody of this.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:17

So it was a win-win either way.

SPEAKER_07 2:05:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:19

Win-win.

SPEAKER_07 2:05:20

Wes Craven was trying to distance himself from horror at the time, originally turning down the offer to direct. Some fans changed his mind and he ended up uh coming back and how did they change his mind? Uh just saying that sexual favorites. You know, I think I from what I guess they're gonna be. A lot of people just told him, like, dude, you're the best at this. Like, keep at it.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:43

Like, you They stroked his ego?

SPEAKER_07 2:05:45

Yeah, they stroked his ego, and then he came back and did it, I guess.

unknown 2:05:50

Sorry.

SPEAKER_07 2:05:51

All over the inappropriate as of 2023, Ghost Faced is the number one selling Halloween costume of all time.

SPEAKER_03 2:06:01

Really? It's actually a real costume. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:05

It was a costume before the design, remember? They found it while scout scouting. They literally do sell it in every five or nine.

SPEAKER_07 2:06:13

Um we're almost done. I'm gonna get edited out. Hang in here, Mary Marie.

SPEAKER_03 2:06:21

I had a tennis trash later today, too.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:24

Hang in there, hang in there.

SPEAKER_07 2:06:31

Lots of Halloween references in this movie. I think Casey Becker says it's her favorite scary movie. She's got a great lungs.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:37

No, Casey's go down the line.

SPEAKER_07 2:06:40

No, it wasn't. No, she says her favorite is Halloween, but the trivia question was Friday the 13th. It was Jason's Vaughn. Yeah. She's got a great. Yeah. Go down to the McKenzie's is what Dad says to the mom, which is what they say, what Jamie Lee Curtis tells the kids in the movie. We talked about feels like a Wes Carpenter flick, John Carpenter, the director of Halloween. Billy's last name is Loomis, like Dr. Loomis.

SPEAKER_04 2:07:03

The Remain a Virgin.

SPEAKER_07 2:07:04

Like a Halloween. The staying in the Virgin thing, all the Jamie Lee Curtis stuff. They're watching Halloween at Stu's house. They're like when Dewey is going through the house trying to find the killer, the Halloween is playing in the background, so the Halloween music is playing. A ton, a ton, a ton of Halloween references. Mary Marie, you'll love this one. Melissa Joan Hart, your girl, auditioned for the role of Sydney. Do you think she could have pulled it off?

SPEAKER_03 2:07:30

I think so. I like her.

SPEAKER_07 2:07:32

Picture Clarissa. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:07:33

Or Sabrina at the time.

SPEAKER_07 2:07:35

Or Sabrina as as uh Sidney Prescott instead of Neve Campbell. Can any of you guys picture that? I can picture nothing until I don't want to bag on Nev Nev Campbell, but I mean anybody could play their role. I mean, I think Melissa Joan Hart has the same kind of like innocence Nev Campbell does, which you kind of have to have. Like I don't think I think Wes has a type. I think she could have.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:00

I think Wes has a type. I think Nev is more like Nancy than you know, so he might be a little lazy with his casting.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:08

Like I feel like Rose McGowan doesn't have that innocence. Like she couldn't have been like you couldn't have inner like swapped the roles, probably. No, I feel like Sydney.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:16

She got like cast as Sydney. Because like, wasn't Craft was just a few The Craft, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:21

Yeah, that came up before or was the same year as this year.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:24

Same year. So I think like they knew she had like other movies.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:27

So did he want a witchy person? Because he had two.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:33

Hot take, she was not a good person in the craft.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:36

No, no, yeah. Not hot take, but take um some of the other casting what-ifs, Seth Green auditioned for Randy. I could totally see that. For sure. Jamie Kennedy and Seth Green seemed like doppelgangers. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:49

I like Seth Green.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:51

Brecken Meyer and Jason Lee also auditioned for Randy, but it was if not Jamie Kennedy. Jason Meyer. Breckenmeyer from uh Road Trip. Jason Lee from uh all the Kevin Smith stuff. I could see Breckenmeyer, but I couldn't see Lee doing it, I don't think. No, I couldn't see that either. He'd be good at he'd be good at monologuing, he'd be good at the rules stuff, but I I couldn't see him like too confident. Yeah. Brooke Shields was almost cast as Gail Weathers. Love Brook Shields. I could see that. She she looks like a news reporter. Could picture that. When the video store customer asks about the werewolf movie with E.T.'s mo it's a reference to D. Wallace from The Howling, but was also in Wes Craven's The Hills Have Eyes in 1977. The only time in this film that the man in the costume isn't a stunt man is when Ghostface sneaks up on Randy on the couch. That is Skeet Ulrich. He was he asked Wes Craven if he could wear the costume one time in a scene.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:49

The only time they didn't get their ass kicked.

SPEAKER_07 2:09:51

Yeah, exactly. He walks in and walks out. So that's the only time it's not a few. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:09:58

He couldn't be shown up by a woman. He's not he's like a twin.

SPEAKER_07 2:10:02

Oh, let's see. Addictus talks about Seth Green, and he's like, he's a red twin of Jamie Kennedy. Yeah. Oh yeah. They both have like red hair and I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:09

Earlier, I was like, why don't you guys like mention Austin Powers? And I'm like, I'm not gonna say it. I'm not gonna say it. Maybe it's the wrong actor.

SPEAKER_07 2:10:16

You're right. It was the wrong actor. Good job.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:21

I didn't want to sound stupid earlier, so I'm just gonna sound stupid now.

SPEAKER_07 2:10:24

You're fine. You don't sound stupid. Blame it on the catwater. Dewey was supposed to be dead, but they filmed him being taken away on a stretcher just in case they wanted to bring him back. That's why he's and once he's stabbed in the back, he's in consequential for the rest of the movie. I like it. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:42

Were they trying to decide if they like David Arkad?

SPEAKER_07 2:10:44

They were trying to decide if they like with the sequel, like if this goes on, do we want him to be a character? So they filmed him being taken away on a stretcher, and they waited till later to either put that part in or leave it out. I don't know why. If they left it out, he'd have been dead by putting it in, he's alive. But like in theory, like they could have nobody would have batted an eye if he actually lived through the in that and he showed up in the sequel without the stretcher scene, right? Yeah. So in Scream 5, when the franchise reboots, okay, Sam Sam Carpenter is our new basically our new protagonist, right? Spoiler alert, movie came out a few years ago. If you haven't seen it, it's the new protagonist is Billy Loomis's daughter. Okay. Billy Loomis must have knocked up some other girl in high school for this to be possible because he dies at the edit screen. So he dated Sydney for two years, I think they mentioned. They've been together for a couple of years. Right. So he was either 14 or 15 fathering a kid or is just unfaithful with Sydney. I think he cheated on Sydney.

SPEAKER_03 2:11:55

Did he have a motive to date Sydney? Was that like with a whole age?

SPEAKER_07 2:12:00

They were already dating when her her mom was cheating. Well that's gross.

SPEAKER_03 2:12:04

And her mom was like sleeping with her boyfriend's dad.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:06

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07 2:12:09

Oh yeah, that's that's rough right there. How would that how would that gossip not have like the Halloween movies right there? Yeah, yeah. Sorry. Yeah. How would that like gossip not have gotten around the school that like one of one of those class Yeah class classic excuse? She goes to a different school, you don't know her. She doesn't even go here. She doesn't even go here, you wouldn't know her. She lives in Canada.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:35

I also think Billy would have been upset when she said your mom left. I think you would have been like bullshit. I think he would have been pissed and been like, your mom slept with my bed like a hope.

SPEAKER_07 2:12:46

Yeah. So are we saying Billy just not faithful to Sydney? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:12:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:12:51

Not addressed it really at all. Does he seem like a faithful guy?

SPEAKER_03 2:12:54

He doesn't seem like he has a moral compass. Exactly. Period.

SPEAKER_07 2:12:57

Yep. He promised over the clothes stuff and went immediately under the clothes with his.

SPEAKER_03 2:13:03

He was manipulating her. He was like manipulating her to like get in her panties.

SPEAKER_07 2:13:08

Me too, there. Okay. Horror hall of fame.

SPEAKER_03 2:13:11

You really want to be in this movie, Sydney.

SPEAKER_07 2:13:14

Horror Hall of Fame. Wes Craven for director is already in our Hall of Fame. Yep. Ghostface. Mortal Killer. Ghostface the Killer.

SPEAKER_06 2:13:23

We gotta talk this through. Well, it's not the same person.

SPEAKER_07 2:13:26

Multiple people play Ghostface, multiple people are the killers, but is just Ghostface the killer? I think Ghostface. Can it be like ambiguous and like Ghostface the Killer is in the Hall of Fame? I say Ghostface the Killer is not. I say Ghostface Ghostface, the outfit, the mask is, but like I can be. So it would have to have to go in the prop wings and not the mortal villains. You're just saying Billy Loomis and So you'd have to say are Billy Loomis and Stu Mocker horror.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:58

And they might hall of fame things. Because like who does like when you think Scream, you're thinking Scream one, Billy Loomis, and Stu Mockeracco.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:08

Anytime you think Scream, you think of them as well. So to me, it's just people taking advantage of the costume and using it to their advantage. Exactly. Costumes and in my book.

SPEAKER_07 2:14:18

Yes. Okay, so then for props, it would be the costume. Yeah. But candidates would be Stu and Billy. But Stu and Billy are mortal.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:26

Maybe comedic more?

SPEAKER_07 2:14:28

Candidates. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:30

Do you have like horror-famous one-liners?

SPEAKER_05 2:14:33

We should.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:34

Should best quotes. Put them all.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:40

Because you guys also, what was your uh oh, Silence of the Lambs? You guys quoted that one. She's your big old fat person.

SPEAKER_07 2:14:47

She's a great big fat person.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:49

Or are you talking about when uh when Mike displayed uh Baltimore handle electric?

SPEAKER_03 2:14:57

You guys don't stand in the mirror with your Plum Island?

SPEAKER_07 2:15:00

Plum Island. Is that Downy Ocean? We better leave on Friday.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:08

Let's see on Turaco.

SPEAKER_06 2:15:11

We wait till Saturday, the traffic will be hell, okay?

SPEAKER_04 2:15:14

Sounds kind of Chicago-ish a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:17

Sawy. Didn't mean to do that.

SPEAKER_07 2:15:20

That's that what is that?

SPEAKER_03 2:15:23

Two cutwaters in. Yeah. Or Baltimore speaks it better, right?

SPEAKER_07 2:15:30

Like Garrett counting or something. That's Baltimore too.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:37

Baltimore says both.

SPEAKER_07 2:15:39

Oh yeah. Water. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:42

You guys should have your like own little like category though.

SPEAKER_07 2:15:45

Like your Should we do like which characters from Baltimore for every movie we do?

SPEAKER_03 2:15:51

That'd be fun for my you should all you should each come up with your own like category.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:55

Like a wild card category.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:57

Wildcard.

SPEAKER_06 2:15:58

What's your favorite scary movie?

SPEAKER_03 2:16:02

Movies not to watch with your mom.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:04

Oh like a special award for each one. I like that.

SPEAKER_07 2:16:10

Movie props. Moving on. Movie props you want to nominate for the Hall of Fame.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:14

Mask.

SPEAKER_07 2:16:15

The ghost face. You know, costume. Costume we talk about. The knife. I think this is a unique knife. I think you can pick this knife. It is a unique knife. It's not just a kitchen knife. It's not a chef. When do you see the knife? All the time. And he keeps wiping the blade. It's a unique knife in my mind.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:32

Kind of like a hunting knife.

SPEAKER_07 2:16:33

It is. It's like a buck knife.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:35

Yeah. I think the voice is the one with the blood. The voice changer. Voice modulator.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:39

Voice modulator. Yeah. Yeah. Atticus with the voice changer.

SPEAKER_07 2:16:42

With the cell phone, with like the 1996 with the cellular telephone.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:47

Do they um in other movies do they do the whole like knife wiping off thing?

SPEAKER_07 2:16:50

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:51

Like they I mean they make it very distinct.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:53

Nobody wants to give anybody hepatitis and have a way out the door. Right.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:57

Like I'm gonna stab you, man.

SPEAKER_07 2:17:00

Because I know I know sometimes we we've been contentious about like Jason's machete. It's like, okay, but it's just a machete. This knife looks like it stands out. It does stand out.

SPEAKER_03 2:17:10

Maybe it's part of the costume.

SPEAKER_07 2:17:12

If you put five knives on a table, I can tell you which one was from screen. Which one was from screen. But if you put just that knife on the table, would you say that's the screen? No. The shape of it. What's the answer? I could I can tell it's from screen. It does have a little like like tit to it. I can tell. Almost like you could turn around and use it as like a spinning thing. Alright, I think they made it. It's a hunting knife. It's not a kitchen knife, it's not a chef knife, it's not a butcher knife, it's not a cleaver.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:38

Mike really focuses on just the tip is what he focused on.

SPEAKER_07 2:17:42

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_03 2:17:43

Well, what if you had a mannequin and you just had the whole costume on and you just had the knife in the hand? Yeah. Yeah. Good with that.

SPEAKER_07 2:17:49

Good with that. Yeah. Good with that. The whole ghost face. The whole ghost face getup. Good with that. Would you agree, Anakin? About those giant phosers.

SPEAKER_06 2:17:57

No giant scissors?

SPEAKER_04 2:17:59

I mean, I are giant.

SPEAKER_07 2:18:01

One one fun fact I was withholding until we got to props in Principal Hembry's closet, Henry Winker's closet, is the Fonza's leather jacket.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:10

No.

SPEAKER_07 2:18:10

Is the Fonza's leather jacket a Hall of Fame horror movie pro?

SPEAKER_05 2:18:14

Yes. It's the Fonzes leather jacket.

SPEAKER_07 2:18:19

It's the Fonza's jacket. Not a horror hall of fame. I got it. Yeah. It was a fun. Where's the jukebox? It's like saying like Freddy's outfit. Fred the janitor's outfit. Another fun fact. The different thing. The term jump the shark comes from Happy Days where the Fonz actually jumps over a shark. Yes. On water skis or jet ski? Yeah, water skis.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:39

On water skis, yeah. Like a real shark?

SPEAKER_03 2:18:42

Yeah. Have you never seen Happy Days Anakus? No.

SPEAKER_07 2:18:45

Sunday.

SPEAKER_06 2:18:46

Sunday, Happy Days.

SPEAKER_03 2:18:48

You should see it. It's a good show. It's a really good show.

SPEAKER_07 2:18:50

With Ronnie Howard, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:53

Yeah. The Howard boy.

SPEAKER_03 2:18:55

When we did this, it was my Nick at night, which now you have probably like friends.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:00

That 170s show?

SPEAKER_03 2:19:02

Or that 70 show. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 2:19:07

I mean, there's not much track left. Final thoughts on Scream, Mary Marie. I'll start with you. Final thoughts.

SPEAKER_03 2:19:13

I would survive like crazy, but yeah, it was awesome.

SPEAKER_07 2:19:17

Yeah. Which which killer was the dreamiest? If you had to date Stu or Billy.

SPEAKER_03 2:19:25

Oh, it would definitely be Stu. At least he'd make me laugh. Stu's body.

SPEAKER_07 2:19:28

Charlie, if you had if you had to date Sidney or Tatum.

SPEAKER_03 2:19:32

Billy's fucking hate.

SPEAKER_07 2:19:33

Oh, Tatum. Atticus, if you had to date Sidney or Tatum? Tatum. Justin? Tatum with a bullet. Whatever, yeah, whatever. With a bullet? Fastest answer ever. Tatum. Those red pants.

SPEAKER_04 2:19:47

I mean, sorry, Sarah. I didn't know you yet, so I didn't cheat on you with my mother.

SPEAKER_07 2:19:55

Yeah. Sydney's got too much baggage, so. Tatum. Would you like when like would you date her before her mother was killed? Because afterwards, she had a lot of baggage there.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:05

It sounds like she was fun before her mom died.

SPEAKER_07 2:20:07

Right, she had a lot of fun. Probably. They were in an R rating, hot and heavy, headed towards an NC17, but now edited for TV. I think Stu and Tatum are like in full on porno. I don't like to think about Stu with my girlfriend like that. I think the movie was great. It was a fun ride. It was original, entertaining. And I think that Stu is the only, or whatever his name.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:32

The goat. Lillard. Matthew Lillard. Is the only actor that couldn't have been replaced.

unknown 2:20:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:39

Agreed.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:40

Everyone else, you can just the right energy, randomly throw in people and then be fine. Yeah. I agree with that.

SPEAKER_07 2:20:46

Matthew Lillard's fantastic in this. I think we all love him.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:49

I Nev, because she was in so many of the sequels, all of them but one. It's hard to think of her being replaced now, but at the time I could see.

SPEAKER_07 2:21:03

Yeah. Glad I saw this movie when I did. I think as a young person seeing it, it just was it was like a small little taste of horror film school. If you're seeing this as a young person as a preteen with all the references, and it's like, oh man, I need to go see this now. Or like you know, I never seen Silence Lambs, I gotta see that. Or nowadays. The Howling, I need to check that out, apparently. You know, Prom Night, Terror Train. Like, I need to check out these other Jamie Lee Curtis movies. Like it was it was all just horror education when you're starting to really get into these kind of things. Like, okay, this is what they're telling me I should have I should watch, so I need to check these out. It was a fun like place to be, like, because I was 15 or 16 when I saw it, probably 16.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:53

But like my friends at the time wouldn't have gotten the references, right? So, like, obviously, now the three of us, the four of us, have seen a ton of horror movies, and these are pretty elementary references, but like it was fun being like ahead of your peers in that, I think.

SPEAKER_07 2:22:11

So Charlie. Charlie was like 40 when this came out, right? Sure. One day he's gonna he's gonna go all ghost face on us for all the references we do on how old he is. Yeah. Alright, guys. Well, that was Scream. That was uh we have uh Justin, by the way. That was Atticus. Our next our next host, you know, we're going back around to um, you know, our uh employee picks. Our next host is Charlie. Yay. So Charlie, you get to uh it's your pick for the next film we're gonna cover.

SPEAKER_06 2:22:46

Okay, so my pick was influenced by the fact that the Hall of Fame and that this character is should have been in the inaugural Hall of Fame for uh immortal villains. So I'm gonna go with uh Brahm Stoker's Dracula. Oh the most movied villain of all time.

SPEAKER_07 2:23:11

Correct. Yeah without a doubt, not even close. Frankenstein. 200 plus movies. Frankenstein's in like 400 movies. But it's close, it's like Frankenstein and Dracula. Right. I get it. Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:21

Not saying I was worried, but I was worried about Don the Dead. The remake.

SPEAKER_05 2:23:25

The remakes.

SPEAKER_07 2:23:26

Oh, and once this is also one of the better ones from the early 90s. Like the early 90s horror is bad. This is a great movie. Dracula 2000? Scary movie because it shows up in IMDb as a comedy horror. Hey, if we're doing comedy horror, that opens the door to a lot of things, and I'm all for it. So, yeah, Brahm Stoker, Dracula. Stoker's Dracula, Keanu. Yes. Very good. What's that? About three hours long, too? That's a good one. No, I'm not you know, um it's one of those ones that breaks the rule for me. Even Scream was almost like two hours, and it's super good. You don't need to cut anything out. I mean some nudity in this one, too. Just warning. A fair warning to our guests or listeners. Yeah. Okay. All right, Brahm Stoker's Dracula.

SPEAKER_03 2:24:17

Because I'm all in.

SPEAKER_07 2:24:18

1992, if I'm not mistaken. It's the next film we're gonna cover. Ready for me to take us out of here, guys? Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Thank you for being here. Thank you for sticking it out. I know you were reluctant, but really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 2:24:33

Yes, two drinks in. I'm good.

SPEAKER_07 2:24:34

Yep. That's what Sarah figured out.

SPEAKER_04 2:24:36

Like I she started her third bourbon, and it was like a Sarah I'd never seen in my life.

SPEAKER_07 2:24:41

Now that now that we've did the dry now that we did the dry run, let me hit the record button and we'll get started.

SPEAKER_04 2:24:46

Oh, yeah, but you were recording it. You're I was I'm my lights not green here. Sorry, mate.

SPEAKER_07 2:24:52

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SPEAKER_01 2:25:32

This is the end, friend.