Ep 8 - I've Gotta Get a Message to You; Bedtime Sitcom Ranking; Alice in Chains Unplugged

Two married hosts build a practical rubric for “bedtime sitcoms” and re-rank favorites by sleepability, then dive into a Bee Gees classic about a death-row plea, complete with key changes, Mellotron lore, and unexpected cover ideas. Along the way we hit Vonnegut satire, Oliver Stone’s JFK, and guitar-hero rabbit holes without losing the thread of comfort and closure.

• sleepability as the core rubric for pre-sleep TV
• why low-stakes stories beat cliffhangers at night
• 30 Rock as perfect palate cleanser, Office as high cringe-tax
• Parks and Rec’s finale as the most satisfying wrap
• Always Sunny as dark but oddly sleep-friendly
• Modern Family’s “white-lie pyramid” problem
• Letterkenny’s dialogue engine and fight-and-heart balance
• quick hits: Alice in Chains Unplugged, Roots vs Lauryn Hill
• JFK’s cast spectacle and scenes that unsettle
• Bee Gees songwriting, Mellotron textures, and key-change urgency
• arranging and performing Gotta Get A Message To You
• who should cover it next and why it works across genres

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Transcript

Cold Open: Dark Car-Crash Bit And Banter

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Two married friends in a little room surrounded by clothing and two microphones. They got in a car crash.

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Look out, look out, look out.

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She died in his arms. He kissed her lips. No, not at all. Wow.

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It's pretty good, except for when I was started singing the harmony, then you joined me on the harmony. So sorry, there was a couple times where there was no melody. You ruined our favorite.

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I ruined the song. You were the one who ruined things by dying.

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Well.

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Thanks a lot.

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You were probably driving inebriated.

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Why would you say that?

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We would never.

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I wouldn't. No. I know.

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You were probably mad because someone in the backseat was chewing. I've made a that's true.

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Yeah.

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You probably drove us on the side.

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Somebody was still bringing their drink and they just killed us to end it. It would have been a little a lot harder to ask them to stop.

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Welcome to the show.

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Hey, this is the audience won't like it. It's correct.

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I am Leslie Shoecraft.

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We are married in a closet.

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Oh my gosh. And everywhere.

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A little room, if you want to. Everywhere else we go. Everywhere else we go, yeah. Isn't that nice?

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We were married at a wedding yesterday.

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We were.

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Oh, we were already married though when the wedding started.

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Yeah. We it was not our wedding, although we did just have our 20th anniversary.

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That's true. We were talking about that.

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But you know, the name of the show. We gotta we gotta pepper stuff in that keeps keeps you not wanting to come back. Um this is the audience won't like it. It is a show where we very loosely stage a scenario where two people, strangers, married strangers in this case.

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Strangers in the night.

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Strangers in the night could be there's concerts, there's matinees. That's true. Could be in the during the daytime.

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I like a matinee.

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It's not limited to a certain time. It's not a one right now, Sunday afternoon. Where two strangers are in line, they're waiting for a show, waiting for a concert. Yeah, that's right.

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Excited to see this week's concert.

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Yeah. The the Bee Gees?

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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That's um I thought the Bee Gees were black until very recently.

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Are you serious?

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Yes, I am.

Bee Gees Misconceptions And Blue-Eyed Soul

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Wow. I I mean I don't know a ton about the Bee Geees. I do know a little bit more about them.

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I never saw them. I've never seen them.

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Hold that thought though, because about this song specifically, it it does, it it was it was recorded, it was, pardon me, written originally for an African-American gentleman by the name of Was it? Percy Sludge.

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Oh, Percy Sludge.

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Yeah.

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They had some other stuff I saw that was written for some other other gentlemans.

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Uh Otis Redding.

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Yeah, that's who I was gonna say.

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Um, you know the song uh You Don't Know What It's Like. Baby, you don't know what it's like.

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Was that supposed to be for big baby others?

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Somebody you don't know that song? Uh-huh. Oh, it's a really good song. I think it's actually probably better than the one.

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I feel like the name of this podcast should be Shining a Light in the world.

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You know a lot more stuff than I do. You know actually about like how these songs work. Leslie is a a uh uh uh uh what's the word? College educated music musician.

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I would say form of music.

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Music therapist.

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I do hold a degree in music.

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I just have I just had a lot, I just wasted a lot of time growing up and had a chance to absorb all this. And I it's fine.

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I don't feel bad about myself or not knowing anything. But you know what? Now I like it.

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So we're two people stand in line for a concert. We're about to discover the skin color of the like, oh my gosh, I cannot believe they're white. They do have a lot of soul. They do, they have what a lot of people might call blue-eyed soul. Okay, which I kind of like a lot. I feel like that's uh yeah, I like it. It's got a cool, cool ring to it. I'm sure it's racially charged, obviously, but uh it's got a cool and cool sound.

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It does.

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Yeah, but uh in any case, they have soul and uh I like their old stuff. Well, we'll talk about the bee gees a little bit more. But the about what this podcast is slash YouTube channel. And by the way, if you want to hear our performance or the bee gees performance, I'm not sure how we're gonna be.

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All three of the bee gees are riding to our concert I discovered recently.

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Yes, unfortunately, they're all dead. We hold a uh we we're we're getting ready for a big we're playing in a big, huge concert, like Last Waltz style, like a ghost tribute concert. A lot of dead, we're resurrecting a lot of dead greats.

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They're all riding in on something different?

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Yeah, what are they? What are the bee gees riding in on?

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They ought to be riding in on like roller skates or platform shoes or something.

Friend’s Reading: Range Of Motion And Gallows Humor

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How about I know what they're gonna ride in on?

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What?

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They're gonna you know the goldfish you put in the in the heels of like disco uh platforms. They're gonna ride in on this. Yeah, the goldfish. They've grown. Somebody flushed them down the toilet.

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And they went to the sewers?

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They got jacked, they blew out on the bottom of the boot heel.

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Or when a fish has muscles. Barry, berry kibs, remember me? When our when a fish has muscles, where are the muscles? Face. Wow, like squidward, hot squidward.

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I used to have these big uh, no, they're not goldfish, but I used to have these big Oscars. Remember those? Uh oh, dolomite was uh dolomite was my was my Oscar. And uh they just have big mean heads. Those are the meanest fish on the planet, I think.

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On the planet.

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On the planet.

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I challenge you to find a meaner fish.

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And an Oscar. Than an Oscar. Give me a meaner fish than an Oscar.

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Anyway, but while we're waiting in line to see the Spee Gees concert, we end up talking about something random. Uh and uh keep going.

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Okay. I just have to fill the HVAC trap at some point.

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Oh, at our home. In our house, yeah. Not for the school.

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No. No, gosh.

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Uh but anyway, so every every week as we wait in line for our concert, where we see someone different all the time.

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Yeah. Somebody well last week we saw the choo-choo trains.

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Oh, yeah, the be good tanyas. Yeah. We did. I forgot already. Um but yeah, so this week we're waiting in line to see the Bee Gees and we're gonna be talking about some stuff.

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And some stuff. You know, this is some rapid fire stuff. This is the segment where the the person might talk to this person. I'm the person.

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They're trying to get a feel.

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Yeah.

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So they're like, you know, what's your favorite favorite corners have you been in lately?

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Okay.

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That's the we just keep coming back to the favorites corner. Favorite corners or favorites corner?

SPEAKER_01 6:45

Well, so there's we've talked about different types of favorites.

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Here's the thing about it.

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Implying that there's more kind of corner.

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Can I can I just it's not your favorite, it's just what you're doing. It's not necessarily what I've been into. This is a I like to I'm c I've been calling it the consumption junction.

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Okay.

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Um how about the which is It's okay if I don't need to name anything on the podcast. I don't even know if that still exists. We talked about this before.

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Jeremy.

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You name it what you want. We can call it a favorites corner. I'm kidding.

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Consumption corner.

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Potential I like consumption corner. Okay. All right. That's got it kind of keeps a little bit of our uh is that a way to die? You could die of consumption, right?

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Not anymore.

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An old-timey way to die. Is that like another is that is there like another name for what that actually is?

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I always just you know, when it comes up in my romance period romance novels, I just assume the person like drank themselves to death.

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Oh.

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But it's not usually one of the main characters.

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Move it on.

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Move on.

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Um okay. Well, I well let's talk about that. What what have you uh you want to open up? I I got a lot of stuff. And you know what? Why don't you go ahead and get started and I'll go through uh so we both went we went to a uh we went to a what would you call it the at OU.

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It was a reading, yeah. It was like a reading night.

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Of our our friend Dr. Brian Trapp.

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Yes.

Music Therapy Background And Populations

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Wrote a book called Range of Motion. That's correct. And it is a book that's loosely based on uh his life. He had he had a twin, rest in peace, did to Danny. Um I'm sure Danny might be interested in maybe joining us. I hope. I hope that's right. I hope we would be honored. Who had uh he had severe cerebral palsy and uh Brian um it's kind of his his story about it just shines a perspective on a world that a lot of us aren't familiar with. I'm definitely not, and uh talks a lot about just communication and the the way, you know, a lot of nuanced language. I mean, I think Danny spoke like 11 words, something like that. It's a really Brian's one of the funniest people I know. He's super hilarious, but he does incredibly deep and a really good writer.

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So when when I was in college, I hadn't met Rob yet. Rob is the co-host of this Married Podcast. Yes, and my sophomore year, I was living in a dorm with a friend Janelle. Shout out to Janelle. She went on to put her money where her mouth was.

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True. Yeah, she did. She didn't know. Yeah.

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Yeah. Well, and a lot of humanitarian. Anyway, and uh we met around the corner, we met Brian and Tanner. Tanner definitely doesn't want us to say anything else about him.

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Gosh, no, we shouldn't mean Renette. Rynette.

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Redacted.

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Redacted Well, Renette. I was saying his name backwards. Oh. Or forwards. You don't know. That's right.

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You don't have a thing.

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Don't say anything more about him.

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Anyway. Um, and so we became friends and hung out with him quite a lot. And then I met Rob. And then Rob came over to hang out with me in the dorm. And guess what? Rob and Brian were already friends, and that like pleased me a lot. And it still does.

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That's right. So we we went to support our friend. We saw a little improv show that really wasn't bad. Actually, Brian started, yeah. That's right, Brian started it about 22 years ago, something like that.

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Well, 2003, I think.

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Yeah.

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So yep, 22 years ago.

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Let's check it out.

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Wow, we're old. Uh but anyway, I so we did buy a copy of his book. His book in our defense had only been out for five days prior to this little mini book tour that he's on in Ohio. By the time you hear this, he will be back in Oregon.

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Yes.

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Uh, far, far away from here. But anyway, we bought the book that night. I did start reading it. I have successfully completed the first part.

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Nice.

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And it's a great, it's hilarious and very gallows humor filled.

Rapid Music Round: Unplugged, Roots, Beatles

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Mm-hmm. As you know, it's kind of a fun part with our podcast here. That's true. I don't know if you call it gallow. Yeah, we talk a lot about dead bodies. We talk about death pretty much the whole time.

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I live death.

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You do? You're she's a hospice uh music therapist.

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Yes.

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And a cancer music therapist. Music therapist and a uh psychiatric not really anymore. Yeah, but you got some chops there. You got what, over a decade of experience?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. And uh 13 years, actually. What are the populations? Autism?

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Uh yeah. It's been a while. Yeah, I worked in a school for kids on the spectrum.

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Am I missing one?

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Geriatrics.

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Okay. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah.

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Just the regular old kind of people, not the dying kind of old people.

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When somebody asked Leslie for like guitar lessons or piano lessons, she's basically says you have to have to have some disorder or be dying. Way to teach you anything.

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You're on a way too normal of a path.

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Yeah, you you get through YouTube.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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So we did that. And that was cool. Time well spent. I'm glad we went.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

Me too.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

Uh I listened to I just got some just got some random stuff here, hon. Allison Chain's Unplugged. Oh wow. Listen to that album. Wow. Uh that album is not. I never heard it before. I've uh listened to a fair amount of unplugged stuff. You familiar with the concept of unplugged?

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Well, let me just try to guess what it is. They're they're kind of a uh loud plugged-in band, right?

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Yes.

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So if it's unplugged, then it's the same music but with just acoustic instruments?

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Yeah, that's it. Uh MDV. Now you're getting it. Hey, he got it. Now, now see if you can keep up.

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Okay.

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What next? So MTV. MTV had a whole bunch of. Yeah, yeah. Remember that. So they had like I'd say Nirvana might be, might be the biggest one. Maybe Clapton's unplugged. That's when he did a completely different version of Layla. Which, man, we just keep coming over the same. I think I I hit, yeah. Well, I hit up, you know, Layla. We talked about Layla and we talked about uh Tedesky Trucksman, which you keep yelling at me for bringing up.

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Why do you not like them?

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I I don't not like them.

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You just don't want to be able to talk about the same thing over and over again. Unless he gets burned out, unless his palate gets burned out fast.

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It does in all ways.

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Yes. Anyways, just a quick uh thing. I'll give my very quick review of that album. I liked it fine. It doesn't really offer a ton. This is at first pass. Uh I liked it fine. Doesn't offer a ton that you wouldn't get from just listening to one of their studio albums. Um in fact, I would say that's probably a better experience if you're an Allison Janes fan. Uh good though. It's fine. I did notice that I did notice that uh there's a little bit of slop. There's some errors. A little like like a Jerry Contrell was making a lot, he's the lead guitar player, awesome guitar player. He's still kicking.

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Um I hope he doesn't hear this.

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He's gonna be okay. I think he'll be I think he'll survive my criticism.

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It's gonna he'll just swim underneath the city.

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It's gonna turn out to be kind of a secret uh praise. Okay, all right. Bear with me here.

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Okay, I'm ready for what's next.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

Okay, so they I just there was a lot of guitar noise, right? Like a lot of buzzing and a lot of like I just know he happens to be an incredible guitar player and he just wasn't on his game. Lane Staley, who is no longer with us, he will definitely be in our concert.

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Will he ride in on a cover?

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He sounded rough, very rough, even for Lane Staley. That being said, I went back and looked. I didn't realize that that show, so Contrell had like a stomach virus that day.

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I was gonna say, was he sick or something?

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Yeah, he was sick and still played. They still made it work. That MTV had been begging them to put that show together, I guess, for like years. Lane Staley was like in the throes of like terrible heroin addiction at the time. He was at the time it was recorded, I believe, also just completely eaten up. So it's one of those deals. Aid up. Can we say ate up? Oh, with heroin. Okay. Jones, the Jones in for heroin. Gotcha. Yeah. And it's one of those stupid things where now you know that. When you listen to it, when I listened to it on the second pass ever, after having learned that.

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The screw up sounded a lot cooler. Because it was just like It was probably throwing up while I was playing that song.

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So, you know, it's uh it's fine. Fine album. Um, I probably uh I'll probably just go back and listen to Dirt.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

Um what uh what you got before I well I started listening to that Roots album that you talked about that had the Erica Badu, the one we did the next movie. It's on that whole album. I listened to the whole album. Are you proud of me? Yeah.

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What did you do you like it?

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I liked it fine. I liked it about as well as I like hip hop.

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How would you compare it to I know you said you've been listening to a lot of Miss Education of Lauren Hill. How would you compare those two? But they're kind of fringe hip hop. They're not like exactly a quote unquote rap album.

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You know, they're uh Well, I tend to like Lauren Hills better because I there's more singing.

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Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, you're right. There is.

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And I enjoy singing. I like and I really like a female singer.

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I like the jazziness of the next movement. I like the theme of it. I like I just love it. It's a great You mean of the album? Yeah, of the album.

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What's the album called?

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I'm sorry, not the next movement. The um it's called Things Fall Apart.

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Things Fall Apart. Yeah. Yeah, I liked it. I did like it.

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Yeah.

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But I did listen to that Erica Badu song several times because I remembered that we were gonna do it that one time.

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That's right.

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It was giving me some of the things.

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We can still do it.

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Sure. We got nothing but endless ta stretches of time in front of us.

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That is um crap, what's the name of that song?

Movie Corner: JFK, Cast Spectacle, Scenes

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You don't worry, though. Um I went to with my homies. Baby. I don't know. You got me? You got me.

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Yes, that is what it's called. You got me. Nice.

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I don't know.

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I finished JFK. Finished the 1991 Oliver Stone.

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Three hours of bicycle more fit now.

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Over three hours, yes.

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I realize we should probably say why. Why I asked you if you were watching it on a bicycle.

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Go ahead.

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Rob works out everybody. In case you can't tell.

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NBD.

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And he temptation bundles. So he does a thing he doesn't want to do while he does a thing he wants to do. That's right. And in this case, he gets downstairs on the Rogue Echo bike.

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Yes.

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And watches 10 to 15 minute snippets of movies. Mm-hmm.

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Sometimes 30. So it just depends.

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You ride the bike for 30 minutes.

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Sometimes that's a beat your butt treats right up. Yeah, it beats all sorts of stuff right up. I gotta kind of set up for air.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

So it's bad for men and women sometimes in different ways.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

Yeah. Yeah. I'd love to know more. Is this like a kind of like a period romance thing?

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You'll just have to stay tuned and see. It comes back up in a future podcast.

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So, JFK, I'll give another quick review. Um, I definitely enjoyed it way more than I thought I would. I'm glad I watched it. It has the most loaded cast I've ever seen in my entire life.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

I mean like they're super rich.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

I mean, yeah, they are. But I don't even think they had people in the they had people in the movie who are like Oscar winners. Like Walter Mathell's in it for like, I don't know if he won an Oscar. Um Jack Lemon. Um, uh like all these guys are in it for like 15 seconds.

SPEAKER_04 18:25

That's cool.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

And and uh Donald Sutherland's in it for like eight minutes or something, and he's Kevin Bacon's in it, uh Joe Pesci. Joe Pesci is a bit of a spectacle in that movie. He's not great. His character is absurd. Uh I would give his acting maybe because I I'm totally qualified to judge. To judge.

SPEAKER_01 18:53

You've seen a lot of movies.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

I guess that's true. Well, I've seen a lot of Joe Pesci movies. I love Joe Pesci. I give his acting maybe a but I don't think I don't think Joe Apeci is capable of getting less than a B minus, but we'll give it around a B minus. But I give his my eyes glued to the screen factor an A plus.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

He is Unpredictable?

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Just very entertaining. He plays um he plays a blonde-haired with like a pomodor kind of cut. Pompadour. Pompador? Pomp. Not pompadour. Pomodor is Is it because it has a lot of pomp?

SPEAKER_01 19:31

I don't know why it's called pompadour, but I just wanted to correct you on live TV.

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Thank you.

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On live TV.

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Kind of a, I guess a semi-closeted homosexual uh mafia conspirator. Didn't actually exist in real life, what I when I read. He was just absolutely insane. Just going full pesci mode, but in this weird Louisiana accent that wasn't quite on, and just he was just the stuff he was oh my gosh, the stuff he was doing. Speaking of Alice and Chains, he was doing a little bit of some cra he and Tommy Lee Jones were in I don't even know how to call what to call it. If you've seen the movie Allison Chains is a reference to like um SM kind of stuff. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

I'm like, oh okay, like I know. And then I actually heard what you said.

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It's like a little bit of that going on.

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I take it back, Mom, I don't know.

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Anyways, uh Tommy Lee Jones is incredible in it. I he's he may have been my favorite actor in the movie, maybe Kevin Bacon.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

Um, there sure are a lot of people in there.

SPEAKER_02 20:30

Oh, yeah. Kevin Costner is in the lead. Wayne Knight is in it. Which is kind of funny. Wayne Knight is Newman from SciPy.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 20:37

Which is kind of funny because it's a real name. Yeah, I don't know. Or or what's the guy's name in Jurassically? Dennis Nedry. Uh-uh. Did it say the magic word?

SPEAKER_01 20:44

His name is Dennis Nedry or Nedry.

SPEAKER_02 20:46

Gabriel Jackson's like. Dennis Nedry's in it, yeah. Which is it's funny though.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Is there any shaving cream in it?

SPEAKER_02 20:56

No. Well, there may be shaving cream. I can't I couldn't tell you for sure. There might be.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

Should watch it again.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

Gary Aldman's in it.

SPEAKER_00 21:04

Do you have three more hours?

SPEAKER_02 21:04

Sissy SpaceX in it. She's a fine actress, but she's also completely worthless. I could completely do without her or any of the kids or any of the domestic nonsense. You know, you're working too hard on this, you don't love our family.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

You don't want to hear that.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

I don't want to hear that guy. No, but it wasn't. No, I do want to hear that. It was senseless. Like, there's no it was three and a half hours long. We didn't need that. In my opinion, if you just want to watch that movie real quick, I would watch like YouTube best scene. There's a lot of good scenes, there's a lot of great actors in it. A lot of obviously I've mentioned that. But I would watch the courtroom scene at the end. Be like, all right. There it is. Cool. It's I'm glad I watched it. I don't know if there's anything else I want to say. Oh, Lake Tuchu Train's mentioned in it quite a bit because it's down there. Lake Poncha Train. Poncha Train. Poncha Train. Michael Rooker. Oh, shout out to Michael Rooker. He's he might be the best in it. Um I'm a big rewatchables fan if you've listened to the last few episodes, also known as All of Our Episodes. It's a great podcast. They're big Michael Rooker fans. I am as well.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

How would I know him?

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Uh you would know him as Merle. You would know from Walking Dead.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

Oh, we were talking about him.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

You know him as Cliffhanger.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:15

He's the dude, remember? Guardians of the Oh, we gotta watch Cliffhanger.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

He's the dude in uh Guardians of the Galaxy with the whistles.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

I'm aware who he is now.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

Anyways.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

And you as soon as you said Merle Galaxy.

SPEAKER_02 22:25

He's a really good actor. I love him. She's excellent.

Streaming Comforts: Austen, Bridgerton, Stranger Things

SPEAKER_01 22:28

I want him to be like a member of our family.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

Well, he might be. We never checked. Um oh, you know what's kind of funny in that movie? This is weird. Speaking of sense of useless scenes with Sissy Spacek. Or with just the family. Bobby Kennedy gets shot.

SPEAKER_04 22:44

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

Spoiler alert. He gets shot in the movie. He he can come. He can watch.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

We can maybe have him up on stage.

SPEAKER_01 22:53

Can he have a booth like a or an opera?

SPEAKER_02 22:56

Or you think you might be getting a little lincolny?

SPEAKER_01 23:00

I was just thinking like VIP seating.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

He he got uh I if you if you've seen the movie and I'm getting this wrong, please feel free to correct me. I actually I don't care. Um but he goes in, Kevin Costner, he sees the news that Bobby Kennedy got shot. His wife is sleeping. He goes in, he'd been, you know, he's been not showing his family enough attention. He really wasn't, you know. He's very consumed by this case. Okay. Um the conspiracy. And he wakes her up and he's like, Bobby Kennedy's been shot. She's like, Oh my god, you know, big reaction. And then they pretty much right there just start doing it. Like that's all.

SPEAKER_04 23:40

That didn't end in the story.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

Well, it did a little bit because that that's when he realized bait. I'm skipping a little bit. He's like, I love you, I should have I should love you more, I should have loved you more. You know, and then they like, but then right there they're just like, they're getting it.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

Okay. And so is that a scene you would recommend?

SPEAKER_02 23:57

Can you imagine? Look, if no. If I yeah, I'm not sure if you got killed.

SPEAKER_01 24:02

And I go in and you're like first of all, don't ever wake me up when I'm sleeping to give me bad news. That's my tip. That's my tip of the podcast. Don't wake up a sleeping mother to give her bad news. That doesn't affect her life at all.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

Anyways, I don't know. This uh there maybe no, it's freaky business, man. It's quite a quite a movie. All right. So um Well, I'll tell you what I watched. Yeah, I want to know.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

So I told you last time I watched that persuasion movie, which then launched me into re-watching the first season of Bridgerton again.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

Right, yes.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

So I did watch that, I rewatched it. It was pretty good. I have to say, it's not as good as the books. They're just not as good as the books.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Yeah, I've I've heard that expression a lot over the years.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

From me?

SPEAKER_02 24:44

From everyone. Yeah, from anybody who's read about the city. They're great, they're delightful.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

It's nice to just turn on something and completely check out what's that called?

SPEAKER_02 24:55

What's wonderful?

SPEAKER_01 24:56

Uh you know. When you watch something and it's just like escapism. Oh, full on escapism. Sure. Uh and it was great. I but uh, you know, when the end of s of the first season came, I was like, I don't really care about watching seasons two and three again. And we'll see what they do with the season four. Heard a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

Uh Bridgerton. All right, well, here's hoping it's good. I hope Stranger Things is good too.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

They need to it'll be good.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

We should probably maybe w rewatch some of the last season.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

How did we do that? How would we rewatch some of it? I because I thought about the same thing. I'm like, do we just rewat rewatch the last episode?

SPEAKER_01 25:31

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 25:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

Should we invite our family to watch that with us?

SPEAKER_02 25:34

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

And the dog?

SPEAKER_02 25:37

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

He can sit on my lap.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

Clark and uh, hey, you can see Clark's bones. We'll have to tell that story sometime. We we got a lot to talk about today, so I'm gonna keep it moving.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

But uh anything else you want to talk about with Bridgerton or Persuasion?

SPEAKER_01 25:48

No.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

Okay. And those are Jane Austen movie books?

SPEAKER_01 25:52

No, no, no. Persuasion is a Jane Austen book. Okay. But Julia Quinn, I believe, is the author of the Bridgerton books. Okay. And they're quite old in comparison to the shows coming out.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

When you say old, like decades old or like probably 30 years old. Okay. Well, speaking of old books, can I segue into a book I listened to? Yes. Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

Oh. What's that one about?

Cat’s Cradle, Satire, Rubber Soul Deep Cuts

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Just dripping satire, just religious existential satire. Um it's uh it's funny. It's like um hmm. The same sort of tone as like you ever see Doctor Strangelove?

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Mm-hmm. Wait, is that the war movie?

SPEAKER_02 26:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

Yes, made us watch it.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Oh, okay. Kind of or or um, I don't know. It's it's it's very, it's very absurd. Like maybe not as much as like uh what's Hitchhiker's Guide, or but it's that kind of just like is there barely a thread of a storyline to follow? Yeah, there's definitely a thread of a storyline, but it's just crazy. Vaughn gets having a hoot of a time with it. I I got through it. I mean I finished it.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

You're becoming a very well-read man.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

Ditched a lot of books. So it's it's a lot, it's a lot of catch 22, which I need to reread because I I think I probably read a quarter of it and then just cliff notes the rest of it in high school.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

I should probably I don't think I've read it.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

Speaking of assassinations, I think that's what uh what's his face had on him when he killed John Lennon. Is that catch 22? Yeah. That's uh nice. But it's just the world, it's a small world. It is a small world. Kurt Vonnegut uh Assassinations. Speaking of the Beatles, holy crap, are we doing this? John Lennon, I'd listen to Rubber Soul as well. I've heard rubber soul quite a few times, but I was listening, I was thinking of songs that we could play. Do you know the song Girl that's on there?

SPEAKER_01 27:59

No. Sing it.

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Uh it's like I'll do the melody. Okay. It's like do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do No? Well, I love that melody. It's uh I I listened to that song again. And I heard the Santos and Johnny. If you're familiar with them, you know the song Sleepwalk.

SPEAKER_01 28:23

No, I'm sorry. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

I didn't, yeah, but I I again I've told people this before. I'm not that smart.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

I just I didn't say you were smart.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

No, I know, but I don't I don't know that much.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Let's not get carried away here.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

That's not what I'm saying. I don't know that much. I just get really excited about what I do know what other people want to know if other people know. That's all I'm saying. I don't know. So part of this podcast and have you in line with me. I could touch you because we're sort of married. Alright, so rubber soul, great album. Great. And who is that? It's the Beatles.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Oh. Yeah. I've never even heard of that.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

Really?

SPEAKER_01 29:01

Are there any songs on there I would know?

SPEAKER_02 29:02

Oh, yeah, a million.

SPEAKER_01 29:03

Say them. Um say one that I wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

Nowhere man.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

Uh Norwegian Wood. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 29:10

It's like Doo do Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Just a mixolity and wet dream. Can we say wet dream? No. No. Sorry about that. Uh it's uh It's redacted. A lot of people say it's about the time the Beatles started to get cool.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

Okay. They dropped some of their little uh 145 nonsense.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

Yeah, which I actually am a big fan of, but I get I do like their later stuff as well.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

You mean their earlier stuff?

SPEAKER_01 29:39

No.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

Oh, like they're gonna be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

I'm with the people who said they were getting cool. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:43

I I am too.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

But I mean they're great. You know, you gotta you gotta start somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

You don't international superstars.

SPEAKER_02 29:52

Well, we heard that uh in church today. We did. I've been listening to uh uh uh some sermons on Galatians.

SPEAKER_04 29:59

Um

SPEAKER_02 30:00

Speaking of things the audience won't like, who talks about religion, I'm sure, out there. But uh no, I I'm filling our our church is in need of a preacher right now.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

So if you're listening, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

Everybody's filling in, uh everybody who you know wants and can preach, uh is grabbing is filling in some some sermons that we're doing in Galatians series, and it's a uh it's a heck of a book.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

Oh, it's a loving book, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 30:27

Well, uh there's a lot of circumcision talk in there. I did yeah, I think it might spice things up a little bit, make you proud. Oh nice from the pulpit baby.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

Will I be able to hit your leg from the seat?

SPEAKER_02 30:39

You will not.

SPEAKER_01 30:40

Oh, geez. Please don't embarrass our family in front of God and the community.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Okay. I won't.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

Too much. So, yeah, been listening to Tim Keller's sermons on there because it's a uh uh he can come. He's dead. He can do the opening prayer.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:58

Would you like you know what's fun? A rock concert with a bunch of dead people. Biggie small is riding on a pot smoking caterpillar. Tim Keller.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

Who's Gordon Lightfoot riding in on that rooster?

SPEAKER_02 31:10

The the rooster, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Yeah. The balladier.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

Born denim. The bard. Born a Canadian tuxedo.

SPEAKER_01 31:15

We saw one of those in the case.

Church, Galatians, And The Dead-Artist Concert Bit

SPEAKER_02 31:16

Gordon Lightfoot might be a little on the nude side? He's gonna wear. Yeah. He might be naked. We didn't we never see that.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

He might be Donald Ducking these Canadian tuxedo. He's just wearing a denim shit shirt and nothing else.

SPEAKER_02 31:29

Denim t-shirt. Do they make those?

SPEAKER_01 31:31

I'm sure you can find anything you want on the internet.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

Little T Mu.

SPEAKER_01 31:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Somebody was telling me that they bought an electric scooter. Like I got my free rascal.

SPEAKER_02 31:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

From Timu. And that it was up to the task.

SPEAKER_02 31:49

Really?

SPEAKER_01 31:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

No kidding.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

I cannot.

SPEAKER_02 31:52

Were they sitting on the wr next to the Grand Canyon waiting for the city?

SPEAKER_01 31:54

Trying to think of who it was that told me.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

There's a camera flood away.

unknown 31:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

Remember that commercial?

SPEAKER_01 32:01

Yes, I do. Oh yeah. It implies that if you have a rascal, you will go to the Grand Canyon.

SPEAKER_02 32:06

Yeah, I highly recommend if you are in need of a mobilized wheelchair that you test it out by going to the Grand Canyon.

SPEAKER_01 32:19

The battery life on those things is incredible. But anyway, yeah, I don't really know how I got on that topic. But T Mu, we were talking about what you could order on the internet. Yeah. Denim t-shirts for Gordon Lightfoot.

SPEAKER_02 32:29

Okay, yeah. That's right. Because yeah, we have to supply the part of the reason we aren't we're not having it yet. It's not just because we haven't figured out how to how to resurrect all these folks.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

I haven't even tried to start figuring that out.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

It's that doesn't mean I've started. Oh really? Oh yeah. I think we're supposed to stay away from the well, there's a lot of this kind of stuff. I have goggles on a lot of it.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

What do you think that the people who are listening are wondering what you're doing when you say this kind of stuff and then you do hand motions?

SPEAKER_02 32:56

I'm pulling I'm pouring like fluids back and forth. There's fog.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

I have goggle marks on it. Like you're in a lab. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

You were working in a lab late one late one night.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

Wearing a stethoscope.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

To see if they came back to life or not.

SPEAKER_02 33:11

I'm in an airplane. Excuse me, sir. Are you a doctor? Leslie Delson's sitting there with a stethoscope on. Anyways.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

What's he say? Because I don't remember.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

Well, he's it's just like he's wearing a he's on an airplane, he's wearing a stethoscope. Excuse me, sir, are you a doctor? It's funny.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

It sounds funny because I do love those movies.

SPEAKER_02 33:35

They're good. They're quite good. Blow by blow. Familiar with that? No. Yes, you are. No. You know why? Why? Because we listened to it. It's a Jeff Beck album.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

Oh, we listened to it on the way to. Sh don't tell me. Athens?

SPEAKER_02 33:49

The no. Uh rehearsal dinner.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

Oh. Yeah. What's that noise?

SPEAKER_02 33:56

What is that noise? Somebody flush the toilet?

SPEAKER_01 34:02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

Still recall recording. Everything's still going. We're fine, guys. It's just gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

People in the wings are getting angry.

SPEAKER_02 34:09

Somebody might have just flushed the toilet. Okay. I'm worried. Okay, it's good. Blow by blow, Jeff Beck. Blow by blow, Jeff Beck. Uh again, not new. I've listened to it not a million times, a lot. I love it. Did you choose it? Every time I listen to it, I love it more. He does everything. He's one of the one of those, one of the few guitar players who can play in an incredible technical, incredibly technical level, but everything just sounds awesome. If you're into his style, it's very, very uh very funky. Very jazzy, funky. Uh I wanted to play uh because we ended as lovers for you, which is a Stevie Wonder song.

SPEAKER_04 34:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

Uh it's not, he's never he's Stevie Wonder's never performed it as far as I know. I think he wrote it for Jeff Beck. Sarita, I think is her name. Anyways, Jeff Beck does a version of it that is just a killer guitar ballad. If you like instrumentals, if you like guitar instrumentals, which I know you do.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

I'm saying no.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

It sounds like Careless Whisper.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

Oh, that's the one we listened to.

SPEAKER_02 35:21

Because I play, I was like, play, listen to this song. Tell me this sounds like Careless Whisper. I played it for Clark.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

Tell me what I want to hear.

SPEAKER_02 35:26

Clark, well, Clark said, uh, Clark's our son. I said, uh, does this sound like Careless Whisper to you? He said, it does. So much so that if somebody was playing it on a saxophone, someone who didn't know music very well would probably think it was George Michaels. He's just so he just played right to my well spoken. I mean, that's pretty much how it's manipulative. That's what I asked him about Lane Staley's.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

Did he then also ask you if he could buy something right after that conversation? Yeah.

Guitar Heroes And Country Detours

SPEAKER_02 35:57

After the Allison Chain. We were listening to Allison Chains unplugged. I was like, What do you think of this guy's voice? He's like, he's 13, by the way. Um he said, I like the music without his voice. It's got a good groove. But uh, yeah, I think I like it better with the voice. I like his voice. So you like hear him thinking, thinking through this. He's like he could he give careful consideration. He would tell me immediately if he didn't like the voice. Um He's very good at being outraged. Yes. Where does he get that?

SPEAKER_01 36:31

I don't know. Um I've never been outraged.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

You know what else I did?

SPEAKER_01 36:34

What? Became outraged.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

I don't know if I want to talk about this during the uh I mean, yeah, I did. No, actually this week I've been pretty pretty pretty calm.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

Since Tuesday.

SPEAKER_02 36:45

Since Tuesday. Yes. Right. Okay. Um So I I've been listening to a fair amount of uh I listened to a little bit of Keith Urban and Brad Paisley.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Why? Because I like Brad Paisley.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

Well, I like Brad Paisley's Plaisley Plaisley's guitar playing.

SPEAKER_01 37:07

Guitar Plaisley.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

Here's how I got there. I was listening to the message. Not the message. Gotta get a message to you. The song that we're waiting for in line right now.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

We're just gonna go see one song and then we're done.

SPEAKER_02 37:21

One song and I'm out. That's all, guys. Don't try to make me stick around for a while.

SPEAKER_01 37:24

They're not playing any other songs, so you won't. That's just you sit down, you hear a you know, five-minute song, and then that's it.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

Yeah, yeah. Well, Keith Urban. Keith Urban played that song with Barry.

SPEAKER_01 37:37

Wow, really? I think did he sing?

SPEAKER_02 37:40

Yeah. He said it was great. It was actually, I think I might like as much as the original. So I I was I was listening to him sing, I'm like, man, it sounds pretty good. Um and then I was like, you know, I think he plays guitar, and I sort of well, I watched like the top ten Keith Urban licks on the guitar, and I was pretty impressed. He's pretty pretty solid, but then I remember that Brad Paisley, I don't I don't know much about country, folks. Leslie knows a bit more about country.

SPEAKER_01 38:11

Yeah, I'm looking for the for the uh Brad Paisley album that I really loved.

SPEAKER_02 38:16

I watched like five guitar center Brad like Guitar Center promo videos for Brad Paisley. That guy is a freak on the guitar, he's really good. I mean, I know that's not news. I've all all my country He's from West Virginia. Is he?

SPEAKER_01 38:31

Mm-hmm. And that's his real name.

SPEAKER_02 38:33

I mean, he's he's he's very, very legit. It feels very much like the first time I found out that John Mayer um is a good guitar player and not just um like a pop.

SPEAKER_01 38:44

Yeah. Well, you know what? I'm still listening to that same um no doubt album that I talked about last time because we're gonna be doing one of their songs.

SPEAKER_04 38:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

But I was thinking it's called Bathwater.

SPEAKER_02 38:56

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:57

But I was thinking like that album was not a popular Backwater.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

Bath Bathwater? Yeah. Oh. Like she's so hot I drink her bathwater.

SPEAKER_01 39:05

Well, she's basically saying I love to wash in your old bath water. So kind of. Wow. Anyway, but I think that album is great. I don't know if it's as great and splashy as Tragic Kingdom, but it's a really, really good album.

SPEAKER_02 39:19

Splashy? Well Did you work that in with the bathwater thing?

SPEAKER_01 39:23

Oh my god, that's all that time we spent around getting.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

Kevin Costner and Sissy Space are hopped in the tub, I think, after uh Bobby Kennedy goes.

SPEAKER_01 39:30

Scrub it up dub. So messed up. Anyway, uh, but I was thinking like, and then she went on, I don't know how much how many more years between that album Return to Saturn is what it's called. Before then she became that stupid hauler back girl. Yeah, and I was thinking like she's such a banging singer. And then she just started singing all this dumb like the song that I want to do with Bathwater has a lot going on. And then like all of her pop crap is is junk, it's fun.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

Right.

SPEAKER_01 40:02

And I'm like, why do people do that?

SPEAKER_02 40:04

I mean, I Is it just because you can? Yeah, I I don't know. I I don't know what it's like to be to be no doubt famous. I certainly don't know what it's like to be famous, famous. And she's been both of those things. She's still married to what's his face from Bush? Kevin.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

No.

SPEAKER_02 40:22

Right.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

No, I think she's with a country singer.

SPEAKER_02 40:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 40:25

I'll find out.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

I never really got into Bush. They're fine, I guess. They're somewhere between Pearl Jam and Creed for me. Pearl Jam on the high end.

SPEAKER_01 40:36

Alright, so um, yeah, I think the album that I liked that I listened to a lot was Time Well Wasted by Brad Paisley.

SPEAKER_02 40:44

Okay. I don't know that one. I'll check it out.

unknown 40:47

Yeah.

How It’s Made And Nostalgia Joy

SPEAKER_02 40:47

I Brad Paisley was doing some wild stuff with some of these guitars. Like I was learning a lot about guitars. Dude, the Guitar Center, I I might actually have to watch some more Guitar Center promo videos because those are quite interesting. I like Norm's guitars too, but that's kind of a different show.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

He has a song on that album that's instrumental called Time Warp. You probably like that. And a duet with Alan Jackson. How can you go wrong? It's a great album.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

Check it out.

SPEAKER_01 41:10

I'm gonna have to get this back out and listen to it.

SPEAKER_02 41:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:12

Cool.

SPEAKER_02 41:14

Um so yeah, I went down, I got an appreciation for those dudes. Uh listened to some Percy Sledge. We'll talk about that. And listen to a little bit more Bee Gees. Um, we'll talk about that a little bit too. I think that's about it for me.

SPEAKER_01 41:32

I just want to throw one other thing that's really been bringing me a lot of joy.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

Oh, what's that?

SPEAKER_01 41:35

How it's made.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 41:39

If you've never watched how it's made, you can now watch it on YouTube and it will delight you.

SPEAKER_02 41:44

If you ever watched the Canadian television program.

SPEAKER_01 41:47

Not that one. You have to look up the Science Channel one.

SPEAKER_02 41:50

Are they are they the same?

SPEAKER_01 41:51

Didn't No, they're not. I don't know. I mean I know they're not the same set. But I am having better luck when I search for it through the Science Channel than the Canadian television.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

It's a different C TV. It doesn't have the music. It doesn't have the same kind of music.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

How it's made music is great.

SPEAKER_02 42:09

But just the whole, like all the soundtracks.

SPEAKER_01 42:11

Yeah, oh yeah, it's great. But like, do you remember Sesame Street or or which was it Sesame Street or Mr. Rogers that had the crayon factory episode episode? Mr.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

Rogers.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

Okay, well that was the origin of my love for Washington stuff get made.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

I bet I bet a lot of people share that same. I bet people just cheered.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

Yes. I love that one.

SPEAKER_02 42:31

But all how many people are listening to this now? We you know what we we'll know one. We hit a big milestone the other day. We did? Yeah. Can you tell me about it? 25 downloads.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

But remember, we thought maybe it was us.

SPEAKER_02 42:42

Yeah. I think I was like six of them are me. Just listening to the quality and stuff and laughing at myself. Your mom. My mom's only listened to one.

SPEAKER_01 42:52

She's only listened to one that I'm aware of.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

But she watched it on YouTube. Somewhere out there, there's a stranger, I bet who listened to it.

SPEAKER_01 42:59

Aww. This is this episode's dedicated to you, stranger.

SPEAKER_02 43:02

We wish you were in line with us right now.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

Oh we don't know either.

SPEAKER_02 43:07

Do we check behind Kitty Will's ghost?

Bedtime Sitcom Ritual: The Rubric

SPEAKER_01 43:09

I don't want to hurt her. She's so tender.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

We've talked about Kitty Will's ghosts every episode so far.

SPEAKER_01 43:15

Are you gonna tell us about the when you tried to use AI to put the reels together? And how many k Kitty Ghost Kitty Will's ghost uh mentions there were? AI really thinks we like Kitty Wells ghost. It's coming. I don't know why he thinks that.

SPEAKER_02 43:31

Chad.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

Chad. Chad could also be a girl's name.

SPEAKER_02 43:36

Hey, um, do you have any bedtime rituals?

SPEAKER_01 43:43

I take my contacts out and I take an allergy pill.

SPEAKER_02 43:46

Go on.

SPEAKER_01 43:46

I wear socks to bed.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

Okay. Big fuzzy overbuilt.

SPEAKER_01 43:52

How could you say that? You're overbuilt. Oversown. You're overbuilt. Oversown. Uh yeah, I need them. I can't sleep without them. If I try to, I have to wake up in the night. Put them on.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

We're still recording, right? Yeah. Yeah. Just gonna check every now and then.

SPEAKER_01 44:04

Yeah. And you're actually, I believe you're actually in the frame.

SPEAKER_02 44:07

We need a producer.

SPEAKER_01 44:09

We're doing good, like just like this.

SPEAKER_02 44:11

This is great. Okay. We need to sing some real money into this. Now we got now 25 downloads.

SPEAKER_01 44:17

You think your mom and dad would let us have some money off the kids' college savings accounts for this? Maybe they'll give it to us for Christmas.

SPEAKER_02 44:27

Yeah, I'll talk to Mark.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

Well, we we have a meeting with Mark coming up. Um and then once I'm all ready for bed and I've done my nasal spray, uh, then I like to get in bed and I like to watch something that cleanses my palate for sleeping.

SPEAKER_02 44:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:46

And I like I like it to be something kind of silly and not heavy and not meaningful.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

Would you call it like a bedtime sitcom?

SPEAKER_01 44:54

Sure, bedtime sitcom. I like that.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

Bedtime sitcoms.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

Sitcoms say for situation comedy.

SPEAKER_02 45:02

Yeah, situational.

SPEAKER_01 45:03

Situational comedy. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 45:05

Okay. Bedtime situational comedies.

SPEAKER_02 45:07

So we have some bedtime situational comedies that we have watched. Here's the can you explain it? You're just better at it.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

Okay, so every night we like to watch a 25-ish minute sitcom before we go to sleep.

SPEAKER_02 45:22

The classic 30-minute primetime block.

SPEAKER_01 45:24

Yeah, but without commerce. Right. And it it's like it has to be just right. Like we've come up with some shows that we're gonna share with you, then you'll you'll be able to come.

SPEAKER_02 45:37

Also known as the shows that we have watched from episode one with exception, with exception, to the last episode.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

With exception.

SPEAKER_02 45:45

With exception.

SPEAKER_01 45:46

Yeah, yeah. Um but they have to, like I said, they kinda have to be funny, a little irreverent, goofy, no like heavy, not Ozark.

SPEAKER_02 45:56

Never gonna watch Ozark before bed. But however, if we watch Ozark, then we have to cleanse our pattern. Yeah, so it's like pre-sleep palette cleanser. Yes, I said that. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 46:07

Okay, you're just agreeing.

SPEAKER_02 46:08

Yeah, well, I thought about it earlier too. I was like, Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:11

So that way when you close your eyes and you go to sleep, you're thinking about nothing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:17

You just left all your Yeah, Jim and Pam. That's right. That's right. Um, so I don't want to get too far into what it what it is, because that's gonna be kind of part of the show, right? We have to talk about why we chose. So what Leslie and I chose to do was of of the shows that we watched, we have to we ranked them, right?

SPEAKER_01 46:42

And here can I just list the shows that we did watch? Okay. In no particular order.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

This is over the what, the last three years, maybe.

unknown 46:51

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

I would say more than that.

SPEAKER_02 46:53

I would say six?

SPEAKER_01 46:55

Were we doing it before COVID?

SPEAKER_02 46:57

I don't know. Probably. No, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

You know what we didn't put on the list?

unknown 47:04

What?

SPEAKER_01 47:05

Well, it might not count. I'll I'll add it to the other stuff. I'm not gonna tell you.

SPEAKER_04 47:09

Okay.

Ranking Starts: Modern Family And Brooklyn Nine-Nine

SPEAKER_01 47:10

You guys are just gonna have to stay tuned. Okay, so here's the list that we are gonna be working with definitively. Ready? No particular order. Brooklyn 99, 30 Rock, Arrested Development, Modern Family, Parks and Wreck, The Office, Always Sunny in Philadelphia, and Letter Kenny.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

Yeah. I think that's it.

SPEAKER_01 47:28

Yeah, that is.

SPEAKER_02 47:29

And not Trailer Park Boys.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

No, some other stuff that made the list.

SPEAKER_02 47:34

IT crowd.

SPEAKER_01 47:35

Yeah, and then I just wrote Family Guy.

SPEAKER_02 47:37

Oh, yeah. Okay. Or Rick and Morty or Solar Opposites.

SPEAKER_01 47:41

Yeah, I'll write those down too. We'll we'll we'll talk about them.

SPEAKER_02 47:46

Yeah. Okay. So, but they all fit, they all fit the mold. Some better than others. We will talk about that.

SPEAKER_01 47:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

So it's gotta be the perfect blend, in my opinion. Do you want me to how are we doing this? We're just gonna talk.

SPEAKER_01 47:58

We're just gonna say what you're doing.

SPEAKER_02 47:59

Do you want me to like split my rankings out?

SPEAKER_01 48:01

We're gonna do those one at a time.

SPEAKER_02 48:02

One at a time. You want me to start from the lowest.

SPEAKER_01 48:04

Well, I want you to say what you were just gonna say about has to be the right.

SPEAKER_02 48:08

I based these on.

SPEAKER_01 48:12

Don't give away your ranking, though, yet.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

Don't give away my my actual like how I rank them. But how how I rank them.

SPEAKER_01 48:18

Select them.

SPEAKER_02 48:19

Don't give away my order, but give away how I selected them. Right?

SPEAKER_01 48:22

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

I thought you were gonna say like my rubric, my uh what's the word? Rubric. Rubric.

SPEAKER_01 48:27

Yeah, you can give away your rubric.

SPEAKER_02 48:29

The rubric is basically sleepability. So it's gotta be somewhat absent of like heavy emotion.

SPEAKER_01 48:37

Cliffhangers.

SPEAKER_02 48:38

Awkwardness. Yeah, cliffhangers.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

No cliffhangers.

SPEAKER_02 48:42

Excitement, like violence, right? Um things that these are things that actually usually make up a pretty great show or movie.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

But not if your wife has bad dreams.

SPEAKER_02 48:53

For for sleep hygiene palate cleansing, it does not work. Not not for not for this gal. And honestly, I'm with you.

SPEAKER_01 49:02

Yeah, it's a great little thing we do together.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

Uh we call it we can call it laugh density. Oh, the no how funny is the show.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:09

But then m taking the long view, that's more of an acute perspective. Taking the long view, how consistently good is it? And how consistently funny is it through the entire series? We'll talk about that. It's a real thing. I don't I didn't really score this per I didn't really score any of this per se, but you know, there are definitely some shows that just have amazing characters that are just stand out above anyone else. Throw a lieutenant hold out there, I have Brooklyn 99. Um, but then you have other shows. They're duds. You just like, I we don't need these characters. Sorry, Manny. You know, Manny.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

Oh, he was okay for a man.

SPEAKER_02 49:50

I always I would always root for him. Whenever he he just got that show got too loaded. That should that show got too too loaded. Oh, we'll get we'll get there.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

We'll get there.

SPEAKER_02 49:59

Sorry. Um, Anne. I'm not a big Anne fan.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

From modern or uh Parks and Rec. Oh she was fine. I mean I thought you were talking about egg.

SPEAKER_02 50:09

Oh no, I'm a huge egg fan. Oh my gosh, yes, I love egg. Her? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

What's his real name?

SPEAKER_02 50:20

Jason Baby. Yeah, Jason Baby. Yeah, okay. Um, and then I got like ease of entry. That's kind of along along the lines of consistency, but you know, how ease of entry slash ending, right? So the the end caps, like how how quick, how long it take for the show to get going, and and how did it end? So those are kind of what I considered. Sleepability is a big one. It's the reason why this order is in the order that it is. It isn't, yeah, it's the reason this exists.

SPEAKER_01 50:54

So we have eight.

SPEAKER_02 50:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:56

So what do you have for number eight?

SPEAKER_02 51:00

What do I have?

SPEAKER_01 51:01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

Let me make sure I have eight, first of all. Four. Six. I do have eight. Okay. You ready?

SPEAKER_01 51:08

Yeah. So this is at the bottom of the list.

SPEAKER_02 51:12

Modern family. Modern family's at the bottom of my list. I love all of these shows. I would not watch them all the way through had if I didn't. We've bailed on a quite a number of of series over the years.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

Yeah. Probably mostly my fault. That's fine though. I don't care. Also, I'm I'm I'm happy with who I am.

SPEAKER_02 51:33

Yeah. That's kind of proud of you.

SPEAKER_01 51:35

It's actually true, I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 51:37

Yeah. It's okay. I do too. I mean, we're talking about books earlier. Like I said I finished Cat's Cradle. That tells you I liked it at least a bit, you know. Yeah. I wouldn't have finished it if I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 51:47

Right.

SPEAKER_02 51:47

We should do one on books we've bailed on.

SPEAKER_01 51:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 51:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:50

Do you want to hear my eighth?

SPEAKER_02 51:52

Uh do uh are you gonna say it and then um gonna we're gonna talk about why we're talking about why we each picked what we picked. Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 51:59

Brooklyn 99.

SPEAKER_02 52:01

Really?

SPEAKER_01 52:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 52:04

Um I mean somebody has to be last. And yeah.

Letterkenny Vs 30 Rock: Style Clash

SPEAKER_02 52:09

Um I'm with you. What what are your reasons for Brooklyn 999?

SPEAKER_01 52:12

Brooklyn 99 was super funny for me up front. And it it had some real valleys as it went on. It did. And for me it was because we were talking about what we thought was the most consistent. It was not when I read that, I was like, well, not Brooklyn 99. Um and like, you know, we didn't even watch the last season because we both just kind of checked out of it.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

Yeah, we didn't watch the last season because the last season sucked.

SPEAKER_01 52:38

Yeah, even though some of their highs were higher than some of my other choices, I feel like they just had too much inconsistency for me to remember it as fondly as I do with some other ones.

SPEAKER_02 52:47

Two of the best characters, though, I would say. Well, gosh, they have so like I said, Lieutenant Holt.

SPEAKER_01 52:53

Yeah, he's great.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

I just I love like And Jake is great.

SPEAKER_01 52:56

Honestly, I thought he was pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 52:57

Peralta?

SPEAKER_01 52:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:59

Here's my he is great. And his friends. He was a great, like, main guy. What's his Joe uh that's the actor's name? Uh oh my gosh. What is his name?

SPEAKER_01 53:10

Charles is who I was trying to think of.

SPEAKER_02 53:11

Yeah, yeah. Charles, uh what the heck is his last name? He's um Boyle.

SPEAKER_01 53:16

Yeah, Boyle.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

Yeah, yeah. Boyle and uh Gina. Gina was great too.

SPEAKER_01 53:20

Uh yeah, she was great. So the and but then she wasn't on it. I mean, she left. Yeah, she left.

SPEAKER_02 53:25

So But Boyle, Boyle was hilarious. He's just out of control. He's like uh, he's the dude from uh what's his name? Joe Trigula.

SPEAKER_01 53:33

I have no idea. Are you remembering his real name? Yeah. Oh, I have literally.

SPEAKER_02 53:36

He's a guy from uh he's a guy from Super Bad who's like either he hits uh Jalen Hill. Yeah. He's super creepy. Yes. He's so great.

SPEAKER_01 53:44

See, there's some real standouts, but then some real it just it doesn't even out for me.

SPEAKER_02 53:49

I think Jake Peralta exists for Lieutenant Holt to Shine. They're they're that's that's a absurdly hot take. But what I'm saying is they Holt was Peralta was a perfect character to contrast Holt. Yeah like the the just uh well quite literally black and white, but like it for in terms of like emotion and the type of character they've played off him so well. It was a lot that text, the scene with the texting is like one of the greatest things I've ever seen in my life.

SPEAKER_01 54:21

He's like signing his name.

SPEAKER_02 54:22

Yeah, every time we text, he's just like sincerely did a raven hole. It's like my dad. Rest in peace, by the way. He can definitely come to our show.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

My dad we used to leave me voicemails. He would say, Hello, this is your father, and then he would say his first and last name.

SPEAKER_02 54:40

For real, too. Yeah, yeah. He's not doing a hole.

SPEAKER_01 54:43

He was just that's just how he wanted to make sure I knew who it was.

SPEAKER_02 54:46

So Brooke 99, for that reason. That's my reason too.

SPEAKER_01 54:49

Uh for Modern Family.

SPEAKER_02 54:51

Modern Family, a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

Is that who you put?

SPEAKER_02 54:53

My my Modern Family is my last.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 54:55

Modern Family, it's so long. Like I think it's the long. I think I don't actually know this.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

I didn't fact check this, but Well, Always Sunny is still running.

SPEAKER_02 55:04

Yeah, but Always Sunny has less episodes. Yeah, less episodes. More seasons, less episodes. Always Sunny has well 17 seasons, but I guarantee you it does not have 200. Can this be right? 250 episodes? Wow. Modern family. Yeah. So we must it must be more, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:27

Must have been into COVID.

SPEAKER_01 55:29

Well, so so why'd you choose it for eight?

SPEAKER_02 55:32

It's um I one thing I hate about the show is this white lies pyramid trope that they do. Yeah, well, you hate that. It's not my favorite thing. No, they get untangled and they're always pretty weightless, and it's it's totally fine. The show ends up pretty much all these shows, for the most part, we'll talk about it a little bit, but they all kind of end in a bow. Like they don't carry over too much in the next one. Um, but I that drive just plots based on dishonesty is so annoying. And I don't know, I'm not like any sort of like paragraph of truth and morality.

SPEAKER_01 56:14

He actually is, it's fine if you say yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 56:16

But but the the it's kind of like for this big loving family, all they do is lie to each other.

SPEAKER_01 56:24

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 56:25

It's absurd.

SPEAKER_01 56:26

That's true. I you you made me think of another point. I think another thing it has to do, the show that we're that makes the cut of watching it, it it does kind of have to wrap up every night.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 56:37

There can't be a lot of overarching story about it. We sort of talked about that.

SPEAKER_02 56:41

Yeah, I think we did, but yeah, yeah, the the the the less the less series arc, the smaller the sm the subtler the series arc, the better.

SPEAKER_01 56:50

For this category.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

For this particular category of bedtime sitcoms.

SPEAKER_01 56:54

All right.

SPEAKER_02 56:54

It yeah, and it it just had a lot of dead. I think it had a lot of dead zones. The later the later seasons I thought were way were noticeably weaker than the first ones. Did you have a favorite character on the physical comedy show of all of them? Like some of the physical comedy in that show was good.

SPEAKER_01 57:10

Did you have a favorite character on that one?

SPEAKER_02 57:13

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 57:14

Mine's Phil, the dad.

SPEAKER_02 57:16

I love Phil.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

He's just so ridiculous.

Parks And Rec: Why Middle Works

SPEAKER_02 57:18

I I think I like Ed O'Neill's character the most, probably consistently. She's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 57:25

I never knew she was as funny as I just, you know, I uh judgmentally just thought she was just a pretty person. That's why she was on it. But she's actually very hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 57:34

Some, not me, not me, but some men, uh straight men in particular, might dock the sleepability of Moder Family because of her. She's got a bit of a distraction. Not me, though. Not me. I'm just saying, for the folks at home.

SPEAKER_01 57:49

Well, and also, you know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I feel like I've I uh let my I don't see her appeal. I let my my woman power down, my female power down by not imagining that she was on there because she was funny. And just assuming she was on there because she's pretty.

SPEAKER_02 58:03

Right. But she's actually Which is kind of like the joke in and of itself, right there. Yeah, it's pretty meta.

SPEAKER_01 58:08

All right, ready for seven? Ready for seven. Because remember, we're gonna get to talk about each of these shows essentially maybe twice. Because you might when you tell me what Brooklyn 99 is, then you can we'll be back.

SPEAKER_02 58:18

Oh, right, right, right, right, right. Cool. All right, cool.

SPEAKER_01 58:20

Seven, what you got for seven?

SPEAKER_02 58:24

Letter Kenny.

SPEAKER_01 58:26

Wow, we are not aligned. I actually have 30 rock.

SPEAKER_02 58:31

Oh my gosh, we are way off.

unknown 58:34

I know.

SPEAKER_01 58:36

Remember, they're all good.

SPEAKER_02 58:37

These are not what shows I like the most. These are what shows I think fit the bill. Let her be. I thought we were ranking them on our favorites based on bedtime sitcoms, not based on how good we think we're. Right?

SPEAKER_01 58:55

I'm not gonna re-rank them now. I thought that we were just ranking our favorites out of what we've watched.

SPEAKER_02 59:00

But based on the sleepability and all that stuff, right? That's what the the rubric.

SPEAKER_01 59:05

Well, I thought the rubric was just to how it made it on the list at all.

SPEAKER_02 59:10

Oh. Oh no. No, no. So this is based on what I think is the most sleepable, consistently funny.

SPEAKER_01 59:18

Well, mine is based on um the order in which I like them.

SPEAKER_02 59:24

Oh, well, so that's okay. This is heavily swayed by those things. I again I'll say it 15 million times. I loved all these shows.

SPEAKER_01 59:33

Yes, same.

SPEAKER_02 59:34

All these shows were great. Um, but I some of these I put on there, like I got I'll I'll let's just we'll just we'll just go with our list. It's fine.

SPEAKER_01 59:44

Literally no one cares.

SPEAKER_02 59:46

Uh that's true. Letter Kinney is number seven for me.

SPEAKER_01 59:49

And 30 rock for me. Why'd you put Letter Kenny low?

SPEAKER_02 59:54

I put Letter Kinney low.

SPEAKER_01 59:55

And you can justify it according to your ranking system.

SPEAKER_02 59:58

Well Again, sleepability is a big factor. That show gets kind of heavy. It's not heavy. It's that show is an is a is a one-of-one. I've never seen a show like that before.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:10

No, it's very different.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:12

It is. So Leslie will tell you, I laugh out loud. I I will cry in bed. I will shake the bed laughing so hard at things. Like there are shows. Every one of these shows has just absolutely split me open.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

Like I'm not allowed to watch these shows. A lot of shows I'm not allowed to watch in bed once I'm trying to fall asleep. Once she's trying to fall asleep because I shake the bed laughing so hard. Um Letter Kinney, I don't laugh that hard. I think I'd say I laughed the least, but I probably grinned the most. If that makes any sense. That show just amused the heck out of me.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:52

It was so quick-witted, rapid fire. It's almost like a play. Like I don't know how else it's a few. It is. It's very uh it's dialogue driven. Just puns all I love the repeated uh motif in the beginning of the I can't even remember what that says. There's something with your friends one day. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:11

Well, I was watching the cars with my friends the other day. Something like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:14

They just sit there and just riff.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:16

And it it takes some getting used to. Don't I wouldn't go into watching Letter Kinney with any kind of expectations other than you're probably gonna see a show you haven't seen before. Um the characters are amazing. Uh Riley and Jonesy.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:32

And and what say again why you put it at seven?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:34

Oh, because it wasn't it didn't crack. Okay, mainly honestly because of all the fights. Ah. The love stories. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:44

It does. It has a bit more emotion.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

It pulls on your heartstrings a little bit more. Like the scene with Wayne. Excuse me, Wayne and uh the heck's his name. I can't remember. I should have worked at the cast list and everything beforehand. Don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:57

Wayne and yeah, you do uh Well, I mean, there's several characters I could think of, but you haven't given me a couple of things.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:02

Not Squirrely Dan. Um my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:06

The other one that wears the coveralls?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

Yeah, why am I blinking?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:09

Daryl?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:10

Daryl, thank you. Yeah, Daryl. When Daryl's hanging out with the uh what what do they call him? It's been it's been a few years since we watched it. Oh the skid skids, yeah. No, it's not the skids, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:22

It's the it's the Oh, Skid all the time. I don't remember what they're called. You mean towards the end of the later seasons?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:28

They're all shooting, they're shooting at them. Yeah. They're like messing with them. Wayne steps in front of them. Yeah. Like that was pretty Yeah. Letter Kenny's got a lot of scenes like that that I would call good TV, but not necessarily the last thing I want to see before I go to school.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:45

Okay, fair, very fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:47

Um It's also No, it's great. It's a great show. It's um that's the biggest thing. It's probably it's kind of like almost too quote unquote good of a show.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:59

Yeah, it maybe just barely makes it a cut.

Arrested Development: Brilliant But Bed-Tax

SPEAKER_02 1:03:02

But it's not again, I didn't laugh super hard. Sometimes it's just like, I can't believe they're still making this joke. Is there it? They're probably gonna do it for five more minutes. Yeah, and some of the stuff like I could go like I'm totally polarized on uh what's the guy's name? Um I can't remember, I'm sorry. Uh freaking uh Shorzy. Yeah, yeah, you know Shorty? Give your boss at tag. Yeah, yeah. I'm I'm all over the place. Sometimes that guy cracks me up. I think it depends on the night.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:32

Um Well, I put 30 Rock for seventh because you know, I don't know if it was just the uh it was a great show, it was really funny, but I don't know if it's just like the subject matter just didn't thrill me. I don't know, I just I just didn't care about the show that they were making, which that's the whole premise. And so I guess I just because I I ranked a lot of these based on how much I wanted to see the next one. And I don't remember ever being like, yeah, I need to see the next 30 rock.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:04

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:05

It was good though. It was a good show. I just didn't I just didn't have a connection with it. And I think I didn't even I I I fell asleep through the season finale, series finale.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:14

That very reason is why I ranked it as high as I did.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:17

Because it was sleepable?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:19

It's completely So maybe we're completely aligned and we just ranked them opposite.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:23

Yeah. I also laughed a lot at Dirty Rock. I love how absurd that show is. Did you have favorite? I love how irreverent it is. I love that they sneak really, really filthy stuff into it. Yes, they did. It's so it's so foul that it's just like one of those.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:41

Did they really does that really mean what they're saying it?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:43

Yeah, like the lemon when they talk about a lemon party, which is don't be something we're not gonna talk about. But like there's just all sorts of stuff they put in there that I'm just like, I cannot believe they said that. And the censors do not they let that go. Or I I love that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

Favorite letter Kenny character and favorite 30 rock character.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:02

Uh favorite letter Kenny character? I'm gonna go with I might go with Glenn. Or maybe can I combine Shoresy, or not Shoresia? Can I combine Jonesy and um Jonesy and uh freaking Texas name?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:19

The his friend?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:21

Did I write it down here? Riley, Riley. Riley Jonesy. Yeah. I just love the I love them.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:26

Um I think Wayne is my favorite character on that.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:28

Wayne's great. I mean, yeah, Squirrelly Dan, uh Katie. I love the whole back and forth between Squirrelly Dan and Katie. Miss Katie's 30 rock. Off Baldwin. I've got to go with El probably. He's pretty.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:41

I like Jen too, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:42

Yeah. She's awful. World drawer.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:48

I love Tracy Morgan too. That oh yeah, he was Tyke the Tyke Meissen. I think I don't know what it was about it. I I might have been tired. I don't know, but when he was Tyke Meissen, he's like a little baby. Like it. I think. I think I I don't I think I cried for like five minutes. I was laughing so hard. I was so still you're like, what is wrong with you?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:10

She said every night for the last 20 years.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:13

I love 30 Rock. 30 Rock was you'll find out how much I liked it.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:18

Alright, six.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:19

Six. Brooklyn nine.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:22

Modern family.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:25

So in that we're kind of aligned up there.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:26

Anything, yeah. Anything else we want to, and it's sounds like a lot for the same reasons.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:30

Yeah, I mean, I have modern family above those other two because I liked I did like the the family dynamics aspect of like it's relatable to me, especially now that we have teenagers, Claire and Phil, and just like Yeah. Claire is like sort of the worst, but also like not uh you know what I mean? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:51

They're extreme versions of an archetype. Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:54

Yeah, but I definitely had an interest in that.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:57

I love Fred uh what's this Fred Willard as uh Phil's dad?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:01

Oh he's the best.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:02

I know, but that he like what a perfect casting choice. Yeah, like I don't think he could get any better. No, they look alike, they act like they nailed that.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:11

Yes, they did. What's their son's name? Because he's a pretty funny character. He is, he got he got funnier. Much funnier. Unfortunately for Manny.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:18

What was his name? Haley, Alex.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:22

Alex got funnier too. Like a lot of those characters kind of came into their own though.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:27

Who cares? Anyway, he was funny though.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:30

Apparently he's a really smart, like a genius in real life, but whatever. Luke. Luke, yes, nice. Um what's the what's the boyfriend's name? He might be Dylan. Dylan. He's one of my favorites. I love it. He was great. Anytime he was there.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:43

I I love that he actually hung around and came back. I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:46

Yeah, me too. Um Brook of 99, anything else we want to say there? Oh, can we give just a shout-out to uh Doug Judy? Sure. I loved every Doug Judy episode. In fact, I bet we missed one of the last season. We should probably watch the last season. Yeah. I hear I I have heard since force it. It's uh well, we still gotta watch the first season of Parks and Wreck. We'll get we'll get there.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:06

We'll get back to that sometime.

The Office: Cringe, Heart, And Sleepability

SPEAKER_02 1:08:08

We skipped it on purpose. But we heard it was an always. Doug Judy, though, uh uh loved that character. And Jake Peralta. That whole thing is just great. It's it's so good. Uh we ready to go to five?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:23

Fifth. You say yours.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:25

Parks and rack.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:26

Parks and rack! High five. Hey, we're married and we chose the same one for number five. La na na na na na.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:35

Should we talk about the uh I don't know what that means. I there's this weird Rob's tapping my leg. There's this uh cute little thing we do where in the when the theme song for every uh show it comes off.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:50

Oh yeah, he Rob has to play it on my legs.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:53

Tap the beat on her leg. Again, we're in bed.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:55

Or else he or else I'll know that he doesn't love me anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:57

That's right. So, and there's been times where Leslie's like been doing like a sun salutation or something, which is kind of ironic.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:05

For the night.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:06

For the night, but uh sun, what would be the what's the salutation-y version of goodbye?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:13

Moon farewells.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:14

Send off.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:14

Okay, farewell. Lunar farewell.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:17

Lunar farewell. She's been doing these lunar farewells, and I'd like spring out of bed and the dog loves it. Yeah, and the dog freaks out. Starts jumping around.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:28

I'm so proud of us. We picked the same one.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:30

Does it do we even explain what that is? I keep the beat of the theme song on a body part of mine. Yes, and that's how I love me. Just any literally any body part. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:42

Not a secret body part. I don't have any secret body parts.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:45

Sixth nipple.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:48

Three, four, and five?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:50

Mm-hmm. You got the two and then the regular ones, and then you got the remember the two, the four on your stomach?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:54

That make a smiley face?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:56

No, that makes like an udder.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:57

Oh, right. I forgot about those. That's another day. My utter abdomen.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:06

Milk me.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:08

Yes, ma'am. Um, so parks and rec.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:11

It's a solid halfway through the list.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:13

Yeah. Very solid show. I'd say the number of seasons was pretty spot on, minus the first, which again, can't judge it. Yeah. I just heard it sucked. I just heard it sucked.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:25

I'll tell you why I got it, why it went solid middle for me. I missed, I didn't really love when they all started leaving the Parks and Wreck Department.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:35

Because that was what I loved about it so much. But they did a great job of keeping it all too. You're talking about like when Tom goes and starts his Yeah, when they all don't none of them work in the Parks and Rec and they're all doing their political things.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:45

Chris and A and leave.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:46

Yeah. Like I didn't want her to run for commissioner. Was that what it was?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:49

Uh yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:51

I didn't want her to do that. I wanted her to stay there. But they did a great job with it. But I will say what made it higher, because I would have made it lower, but is the series finale. It was a fantastically delightful, wrapped up best ending of all these, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:07

I do. I think it was the best. It was just super satisfying.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:11

And I love the way they did it, like in the future.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:13

Yeah. And they included like everyone.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:17

Like Jam was in there.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:18

I love Jam. He's such a terrible character, but he's super. He's great. Yeah, he's a great one. The guy's the greatest.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:24

Who's your favorite parts in Rack? I mean, for me, it might be Ron.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:28

Yeah, Ron's great. I would say if I could comb I know I like to combine, I'd say Andy and April. If they were a unit.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:37

Yeah. Man, they are good.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:38

Stack them against they. I'd I'd put them up. The only the only um multiple person I would I would uh that they I don't think could take is Ricky, Corey, and Trevor.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:54

Oh, from Trevor Park Voice.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:56

Any scene with Ricky Corey and Trevor is absolutely untouchable. This is the greatest.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:00

Remind me who Corey and Trevor are.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:02

Corey and Trevor were the dudes. They they they were off the show. They uh it's been forever since I've seen that show. But they were like the lackeys that were always trying to make Ricky. They wanted Ricky's approval so bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:14

What was the name of the rapper?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:16

He'd be like, Smokes Boys, let's go. Oh, uh Sane?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:20

Um what is his name?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:24

Anyway, we'll come back to Trailer Bar Boys.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:27

Well, it's not on here though.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:28

Well, we have another stuff, Colum. Yeah. Callum. All right.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:33

What was his name? Oh, we'll we'll parks a rec.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:35

So, yeah, April and April and Andy and Ron.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:39

I can get down with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:40

Andy, Andy's probably the funniest. And he killed me consistently. Yeah. That character. That poor Jerry. Jerry's great.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:50

Or Gary.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:51

I love how I I love how only in the office. It's almost like a I'm sorry if this is obvious. But it's almost like a joke. It's a it's almost like, but with the with the Gary thing, they're making fun of everybody else in the office for being so stupid and not recognizing how nice and wonderful. What everybody else in the world sees. He's like career married to be honored. Is that Claudia Schaefer? Or is that like his wife? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:17

Uh no, it's um Is it Christy?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:20

No, who is it? Who is it? I think it's Claudia. Heather Loch. No, it's not Heather Lock here. Look it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:24

I gotta look it up.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:25

Look it up. Yeah, Jerry, Gary, Barry, Larry. They keep changing his name. I love though uh uh April and Andy, uh how they got when they got married, that they threw that episode together super fast, and then you're like, great, now they're gonna get divorced, and it's gonna be some big drama. No, and they were like no, they're just like the super team. That's this thing about that show. If you I correct me if I'm wrong, but every single person on that show got in a loving long-term relationship. Even uh, what's his name? Chr Chris? He's the guy that gets super angry a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:59

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:00

Like, everyone on that show like found their soulmate and it and it worked.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:07

Man, why can't I forget that?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:09

But to to make that so it's what you could essentially call like a deep romance, at least on the surface, yet have it be so unbelievably light and low stakes is kind of a kind of a genius uh touch.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:26

Christy Brinkley.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:27

It is Christy Brinkley? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:29

You're right.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:30

Did you hear what I said?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:31

Yes, I do. I think I was a very astute observation.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:36

Thank you. Thank you very much. Um I have a similar touch.

Always Sunny: Darkest Show, Lightest Sleep

SPEAKER_01 1:14:40

Yeah, it's like you get you get what you want out of the show. Like it's because sometimes I'd like, you know, they do dumb stuff that you don't like, you just did that for you know drama. But they like they never do it. They like let everything be the happy ending that you want it to be.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:53

I like how Donna has like this crazy lore about her. Like she's basically like the coolest human on the face of the earth. And then Tom, you know, I'd love to see this. This just came to me out of nowhere. The muse is just burning. Um, I'd love to I'd love if somebody went through and tallied up how much Tom spent in that movie. In that uh sh in the whole series.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:17

Like how much are these fictional characters worth type of?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:20

Because I love that in the beginning when uh Ann and uh Leslie go to Tom's apartment when Anne's dating is.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:28

Oh, yeah, and they have all those really nice legs.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:30

Check this out. How does he afford all this stuff? He's in terrible, terrible crippling bed. No, Ron's great though. Ron is uh Peak Ron is peak anything. He's not always I will say, Ron, I love the Tammy. Any pick a Tammy episode.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:52

Those are when Ron just goes off the rails. It's so great. That's funny. Those are great.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:00

I'd love to also excuse me, sorry. I have gastroesophageal reflex disease and it causes involuntary coughing. It's real though. Shut up. Anyway, we've also most recently just finished that one. So that's how we celebrated our anniversary. We watched the last three episodes of Russian rec.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:19

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:20

Instead of watching it before bed.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:23

I'm always nervous about how shows are gonna make me feel.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:27

And so that's why I was like, I don't want to watch this before bed. It like it came out of the rubric because I don't know, you didn't know what to expect. But it was great. I'm but I am glad we didn't watch it before bed.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:40

Uh pretty consistent, right? I mean, yeah, like I said, I did a fair amount of research ahead of time. Because we don't like to waste time, right? Bedtime's precious to us, right? We like sleeping.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:51

We like to have our eyes closed by 10.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:53

I read that I read that you could very, very safely not watch the first season, start of the second season, and get through it. We're gonna we're gonna come back around. We're gonna we're gonna watch the last season of Brooklyn 99, we'll update you at some point. We'll we'll watch the first season of uh Parkinson Run.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:10

It might be in a corner, in a consumption corner.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:12

It might be future consumption. Yeah, it'll definitely be in a consumption corner, junction, if you will.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:15

Now I don't have a fourth place because I have a tie for third.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:20

So why don't you talk about your fourth place?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:23

My fourth place is arrested development. And the reason is I have down here for me, it's probably a top five all-time sitcom.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:35

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:36

Maybe even top three.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:37

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:38

But there's some pretty heavy-duty badtime tax on it. Yeah. Explain. It's just um it is it's very uh what it's serialized. It's got it's got a very a continuous plot. It's absurd. It doesn't matter that much.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:57

Right. And in fact, they even My favorite thing about that show is that the end they say next time on a rest of development, and they have like a 30-second cut of all these things, and then they're never in the next thing. Like that's a genius. Really?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:12

Maybe not. It's a genius. It's very great.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:15

Like, tag at the end of it. That's my favorite thing about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:19

It's it is my gosh. What's what's another reason? Well, I have it later in my list, so I don't want to. Okay. Okay. It's almost too it's just almost too good. Although the first three seasons oh, oh, one of the reasons it's it's lower on my list is because the fourth season, I think it was the fourth one, was crap.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:46

What happened in that one?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:47

We didn't even finish watching it. Uh it just sucked. It was like shot during COVID, and like no one was they tried to do a bunch of stuff with like superimposing people and we've definitely been doing this for longer than COVID. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:00

Yeah, the rest of the Yeah, I do I do remember that vaguely in my mind.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:04

The first three seasons, though, were they so good. The Anne.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:11

The whole Anne thing and then like George Michael. George Michael, but George Michael being in love with his cousin. Oh my god. And then never knew.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:18

Maybe, yeah. Oh, man. David Cross, yeah. What's his name? Tobias.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:22

Tobias. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:23

Tobias is so good.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:26

And his he's like a Phil character from Modern Family to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:29

Yeah. Just clueless and wearing jeans. He's like, What did what does he say? There's dozens of us. Dozens. In the showers. Shorts. Shorts on the show. And he's like friends with Carl Weathers, who's just completely taken advantage of the whole time.

unknown 1:19:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:46

And uh the the sister uh Porsha. Yeah, that's the actress. Porsche De Ross. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:53

Porsche De Ross, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:54

Yeah, but what is yeah, what's her name in the show? Um It'll come to Mickey. How has she not been in stuff lately? Has she been in stuff since that show?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:02

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:03

I feel like she'd be more famous. I don't know. Uh Job is awesome. Uh the dad what's the actor's name who plays the dad and the and the uncle? Um Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:16

Jeffrey. Lindsay is her is the sister's name.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:19

Jeffrey Rush, maybe. Lindsay, yes. Yeah. Maybe and yeah, Tobias and Lindsay. The mom is just Satan, basically. And Anya.

unknown 1:20:29

Anya.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:31

And uh, and uh what is uh uh Charlie Starron's character? She's a um she's to quote um dollhouse murders, brain damaged.

unknown 1:20:43

Oh right.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:45

But it's like I forgot about her. Um that stair truck.

unknown 1:20:51

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:53

The uh I mean the show the show is great.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:55

I think one of my well, I'll save it.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:57

I'll save it for my I think one of my favorite episodes is is you know who's in both uh Parks and Wreck and Oh, one thing we didn't talk about Parks and Wreck is uh Jean John Carlo. Oh, what's his name? John Carlo. Yeah, is that his name and his sister?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:13

Yeah, they're great. Are they in it? Are they in a rest don't be suspicious?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:17

No, but uh Henry Winkler is in both the rest of development and Parks and Wreck.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:21

Yeah. He he has does he have a thing for the mother?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:25

Yes. Okay, yeah. He's the lawyer, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:30

Okay, well I'll take a turn and tell you my third place tie.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:32

Wait, the doctor in 30 Rock.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:35

Oh my gosh. He's great.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:37

Spaceman. Doctor Spaceman.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:39

Yeah, Spachemon.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:40

Chris Purnell. Yeah, Spachemon.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:43

He's like a naked gun character. Oh, he's so good.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:46

He's so good.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:48

Okay, my tie for third, and I just couldn't I couldn't decide which one had to be third and which one had to be fourth. Mine is between Letterkenny and Always Sunny.

Bee Gees Focus: History, Songwriting, And “Message”

SPEAKER_02 1:21:57

Okay. Um Do we want to talk about Always Sunny?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:03

Yeah, well, what's your what's your third place?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:06

My third place is the office.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:08

Here's why. Okay. I would actually put the office lower on my list if it weren't the office. If I was ranking this on best shows, period, it may be number one.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:23

Um or favorite shows, or however you want to define that. Of these, you know, of course, of this list. Um It is so some of the episodes are very, very emotional. We'll just keep using that word.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:40

They're so awkward.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:44

Like they make you, they're incredibly cringy.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:46

When it first came out, I couldn't watch it.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:48

Like Mike, the one where Michael um can't even say it.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:53

It's Is it the diversity training one?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:56

No, that one's I mean, that one that yeah, I could definitely see people having an issue with that.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:00

Yeah, Oscar kiss him.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:02

Well, yeah, that is super awkward, but it's so funny. I'm talking about like when when he promises all the kids that he pay for their college that he has to go back. Oh, it's so bad. It's terrible. Or when he keeps trying to walk Lois or is it Lois? No. Uh uh Phyllis. Phillis. Phyllis Down the Isle. Phyllis Down the Isle at her wedding. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:31

It's so well so awkward. Like, remember American Idol? Like, I could not watch American Idol. And like I've because I was like, I just couldn't watch him get like roasted on TV, and then that's like I had the same feeling. Like, I couldn't watch The Office when it rose when it was on for real. I never watched it. It wasn't until it was in syndication that I started watching it.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:49

Or just the little exchanges between like I'm I'm just spitballing, but like David, the boss, the you know, he's in several of them. I can't remember the actor's name, but and Michael were like he loves Michael, but it's just kind of like he's always got to make a hard call, and he's like, Hey, you know, I think you're pretty alright too. Or he could just this all these like very human in the gym and Pam thing is basically like that's about as rom-com as I will get willingly. Yeah. Um there's just so it's so thick with things that will potentially keep you awake. That and it's maybe just the funniest one.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:26

Yeah. It's so freaking funny that you're just like well, the way they filmed it with all the side eyes from everybody, it's just so I mean, there wasn't anything like that. Maybe the the British office, I guess, but I never saw that.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:40

I never did either.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:40

Maybe we should watch that sometime.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:41

The office was good. I thought it was great even with even with Michael gone. Obviously, the Michael ones are better, but it's it was still good. Still had a thing going. Is that who played him? No. No, no, no, no, no, not Caruso. Uh who played California? Robert Connelly.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:56

I don't know what his real name is.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:57

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:58

See the guy from um I gotta look it up. The IT crowd, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:03

No, no, no, no, no. Who am I thinking of? You're thinking of Matt Berry? Yeah. Oh, Matt Berry's. I mentioned this before. I would love if Matt Berry and Danny McBride had like a buddy cop show where they were like, I feel like they're the same person. You need to tell them that.

unknown 1:25:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:19

Do you think they'll hear it on this?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:21

I've been sending them when this comes out. Uh hang on a second. Robert California.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:26

Well, I'll say why I loved Letterkenny. Go for it. And Always Sunny. Both of them, I couldn't. I mean, Always Sunny, I guess, isn't as unique as Letterkenny, but man, I just love the Letterkenny characters.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:36

James Spader, sorry. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:38

I just love the Letterkenny characters so, so much. They're just and like the fact that that show Like Seinfeld, I guess. It's like about nothing, but at that same time, that it was like friendship and you know, community. I don't know, it's just super good. And then the way they tell the story through all that dialogue is interesting. And then always sunny is just completely a just right out of my house.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:07

Drinking in that I would not watch, I seriously would not watch Letter Kenny. If you're like a recovery alcoholic, you will want to drink so bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:15

I was talking about Always Sunny, I had said. Oh, oh. But no, I mean I was talking about Letter Kitty, and then my last sentence was, and always sunny is just and then you were like the drinking. And then I thought you meant always sunny because it takes place in a bar. That's true.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:27

And there's a lot of drinking. There's a lot of drinking in there, too. Wouldn't watch that one either.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:30

Yeah, but they're they're not getting it up to anything wholesome in that show, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:35

So no. Uh do we want to go?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:38

Well, yeah, we're well it was my third place.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:39

So it's your third.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:40

I tied third letter Kenny and Always Sunny. I just couldn't decide which one I liked.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:44

You gotta decide.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:46

Then I guess I'll put Letter Kenny in fourth place.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:49

Always Sunny and third?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:51

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:51

Always Sunny's my second.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:54

You want to know my second?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:56

Let's keep calling about Always Sunny before we get there.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:58

Okay, let's talk about Always Sunny.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:00

Always Sunny might be my second place both in sleepability and just sorry, both in in this this bedtime sitcom rubric creative.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:12

Like you don't care about it. Once it's over, you can go to sleep.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:15

Which is insane because it's probably the darkest, most horrendous show. Like it's so over the top.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:23

The people in a restaurant. They kill people off.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:26

They like there's like freaking uh uh cricket is like being this like clean preacher to like this crackhead dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:39

Unhoused.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:40

Hanging up the glory holes that Dennis is drilling in the freaking uh stalls. The way they treat Frank Reynolds is just on another level.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:48

The way they treat Dee.

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Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:51

And then also the waitress, like they like start out with her being like this amazing, like uh you know, untouchable person, and then like later they're just like terrible to her.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:01

Yeah, and Charlie's just and they don't no one ever gets her name.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:04

What's the wedding episode where they go to a wedding? Wait, am I getting that confused of something else?

SPEAKER_02 1:28:12

No, they there's one where they go to a wedding. It's is it for Dennis is it for Dennis's cat um wife?

SPEAKER_01 1:28:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:19

She dies too. I love they kill her off, too. Bill Ponderosa. I'm sorry, I'm just throwing names up there. They have the best side characters.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:28

They do. But my I would say one of my favorite episodes, though, was the one where he rents that car.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:35

That was a later one, too.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:36

I know. See, that speaks high.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:38

That was very Uncle Dan. It was.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:40

Oh, Uncle Dan, you're back again.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:41

That's like my or my buddy my buddy John. Did everybody ever tell you uh literature Dennis? He's like, yeah, Dennis from Always Sunday. Yeah, I hear his real freaking, yeah. It's like, yeah, I've heard it. Thanks.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:54

Or the game that they play. What's the name of that game that they make up?

SPEAKER_02 1:28:58

Oh my gosh, what is the name of that game? It's just all this, it's just uh completely over the top. No one ever remembers it because they get so hammered.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:05

Yeah, yes. I will have to play that.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:08

Just keep keep keep uh keep talking. List of a couple characters' names.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:12

Always uh Sonny. What's the what is uh uh uh starts with an Artemis?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:18

Charlie McDennis. The the game of games, Charlie McDennis.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:23

Artemis Charlie McDennis.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:25

Artemis is up there as my one of my favorite side characters.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:29

What about the mom of um Mac? Yeah.

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SPEAKER_02 1:29:33

Well the mom of Charlie, too. She's like like a huge I don't know, what have we ever decided what we can say on this podcast and what we can't?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:40

I don't know where you're going with this because I don't remember Charlie's.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:43

We say S L U.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:45

Oh she's a very loose woman. She's a loose woman.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:47

She's a promiscuous sweetie. Um Charlie's mom, sorry, Mac's mom is the grandma from Napoleon Dynamite.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:56

Yes, I knew that.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:57

Um Make yourself Dan Case Adilla, Mac. Mac.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:00

Mac.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:02

Artemis is one in one of my favorite episodes that I can remember. That's the one where Frank does acid. And he's like he's like in a trash can.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:12

Yeah. What were they? Tailgating or something? What were they doing? That one would be a great one.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:18

Well, the one where Frank pretty much. I mean, Frank is the like one of the I don't know. Maybe Lieutenant Holton for the first time.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:24

I feel like we could watch Always Sunny from the beginning again and appreciate it just as much.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:29

I think so.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:30

I mean the musical episode. Where they have put a musical on in a school. That and like they want him to sing something that sounds like really inappropriate. He's like, I don't want to sing that.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:47

Something like about kids or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:48

Like touching something, some kind of touch. And he's like, I don't think you should sing that.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:54

What was the one where Frank where Frank um where Frank like greases himself up and throws himself into a couch? Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:05

Was that at a work party?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:06

Yeah, it just comes peeling. It's a great. It's a great show. Always Sonny might have to go to my number one. We might have to go back and watch it. I'm gonna have to redo this. Um there's the one that what who are the who are the what's the family? They're always drinking milk.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:24

The twins.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:25

It's twins, but they have a sister too.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:26

Well they were at the wedding. She's always like a lizard tongue.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:30

Yes. I don't know if they're wedding. Was it there?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:32

Yeah, yeah. One of the somebody with them.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:35

The one they lose, he loses his eye. He gets like stabbed in the eye or something, right? And then you got rum ham. You got what are some other great. I mean I know I'm missing some major, major characters in episodes, but.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:51

Alright, well, what do you have in second place? Was yours always sign?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:56

Charlie's always helping paint. It's like a straight.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:01

Or they go down in the basement of the bar and he's just in the dark.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:07

Or like how Dennis is like playfully a complete like serial sex offender. It's just like but seriously, but it's like somehow they make it's a show that I'm sure that people would. I mean, it you know, there's so many episodes you're watching are like they couldn't make this anymore, that whole thing. But I think they could if I mean because the thing is they make him look terrible. Like a terrible. Like they don't glorify any of them. No, it's not glorified. That's the kind of thing, that's the kind of criticism I just can't get with when somebody wants to rip on a show for doing that. It's like they're doing it, it's called satire. Yeah, you know, yeah. But whatever. I mean, if if if it makes sense, was that your second place always sunny sucks.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:48

Um was that your second place?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:51

Okay. Do you want to know my second place?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:53

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:54

Arrested development.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:57

The things I like about like always sunny characters and arrested development, they're like Game of Thrones characters where everybody's kind of bad.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:04

Mm-hmm. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:06

And that's what I really like. That's what makes me be able to just not care.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:11

Like it is like I don't there's no like love match that I care about. Like, even the best of the characters are not great. Pretty awful. Yeah, like Michael and Arrested Development. He's like the only one with any shred of decency, but he still will do whatever it takes to keep the company going, and they're all kind of bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:31

Yeah, they set up like all the model houses that fall over.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:33

That was that was gonna say that's my favorite episode is when they're like do like getting ready to like cut the big ribbon and the whole house just falls apart.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:41

I love Job's always trying to do these huge magical uh reveals. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:45

It's I can re-watch that. You said it was kind of serial, but I can rewatch that one standalone. I because it they're also and maybe because I've already watched it, so I kind of have an idea what the plot was.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:57

But well, I'm really glad what you said what you said about the them being so irredeemably horrible that you don't care what happens. Yeah, again, the whole sleepability thing that we're talking about. Uh that is something that yeah, okay, again, like with with uh with Always Sunny and Arrested Development, but with Always Sunny, they have plots where people literally die, like people get their eyes ripped out, and there's all sorts of horrible stuff, but you're just like none of these, all these characters suck, it totally deserves it, and it's funny. Yeah, it's just like yeah, I'm cool. I got no skin in the case. I can go I can go to sleep right away after watching this. This is fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:36

Alright, and number one.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:39

Well, number one is um Dirty Rock.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:45

Office.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:46

Yeah, I could the reason for 30 Rock is it was just so detached. It's just so off the wall. I love the pace of it. I love the jokes. I love they build they basically I I don't know if this is true, but they basically build it seems like they build, like it seems like they got like five jokes they really want to tell, and they just make a episode around that to make those jokes work.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:13

And and and then and the I love how like folks come in and out of the show and they're just like, oh that guy's still on. Like he hasn't been on in two seasons, but they just throw them out.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:24

Yeah, and they're back.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:25

It's it it's the it's zany and it's almost too zany, but it's just it's perfect. It's it's a sweet spot for me. I just love I can completely turn my brain off. I feel like it's the perfect sleep uh palette cleansing film. Sleepy time palette cleansing. Sleepy time palette cleansing blurry.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:49

I don't really know what to say about the office. It's just it's amazing. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:54

Yeah. Uh you got a favorite character?

SPEAKER_01 1:35:59

I mean, he didn't come on immediately, but uh this warehouse guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:03

Daryl. Daryl. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:05

He provides a really great like stalwart kind of a guy because he's like a nice guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:13

Craig Robinson.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:14

Yeah, he's a nice character, but like he cannot hang with all the shenanigans and just make it. He's so cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:20

He's Doug Judy, also. We got a lot of uh That's right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:25

He's um he's also I can't wait till he can Wow, comedians in comedies.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:30

That's weird, huh? I can't wait till he dies.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:33

So we can put him in our show.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:34

So we can put him in our show because he's a pretty got a good voice. Yeah. Plays the keys. He looked like he was playing for real.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:38

Yeah, I think he was.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:40

I loved the theme song that they did. The I can't do it. Michael was like, This is terrible.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:46

Yeah, he's great.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:47

He's like, can you do something more or better?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:50

No, I wouldn't say this is a favorite character, but the interactions between Michael and Toby are some of my favorite. Yeah. Because Toby's just like this doldrum guy, and then they treat him so bad. It's so hilarious. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:06

I mean, Michael's probably my favorite. I love Creed.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:09

Yeah, Michael's great.

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SPEAKER_02 1:37:11

Creed could be Creed Creed could be in. I mean, I guess all these characters could be in anything, but I feel like Creed could immediately find a place in Always Sunny, Arrested Development. Um probably even like Brooklyn 99. Um, he could play Brooklyn 99, another character I thought of, was uh was it Brooklyn 99 that had Tim Meadows? He was like a really polite cannibal. I thought that was a cool character.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:35

I mean, I remember that, but I don't remember the show.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:38

Um anyways, uh I love Creed. I love the episode where it's a it's not a good sleeping episode, but where he gets that woman fired and then he raises money. He collects a bunch of money around the office for her, and then he just pockets it, throws the card, and tracks all the way. It's like whoa.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:00

Who did he get fired? I don't remember that part.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:02

It was a just like a woman in a branch. Like he creed blew the order. He like screwed something up, he didn't give a detail, but he made it look like it was her fault. She loses her job, he raises money to to help. I remember them. I remember that. I mean, Creed is a gangster, dude. Oh, yeah. And he was in uh the grassroots.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:24

Right? Grassroots?

SPEAKER_01 1:38:25

I don't know. No. A band.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:27

No, no, no, no, no. Wait a minute. I'll look it up. Not the association, not the grassroots, the oh man.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:44

I'm looking it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:46

There's a lot of thinking in today's episode. I'm looking it up, not you.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:50

Um I want to say the grassroots.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:56

Oops, I looked up Creed's band.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:58

We're getting nowhere. There's a lot of dead.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:00

Sorry, sorry, sorry. Well, anyway, should we talk about the Bee Gees? Because I'm getting text messages from our kids.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:07

Yeah. Um Creed Band Office. And this is a good segue because the grassroots, yeah, it was. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:14

So 67, 69-ish is when the grassroots were in their um All right, and and I think the Bee Gees had some some late 60s.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:22

See where I'm going with the success. That's right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:25

And they're not also they're not American.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:28

They're kind of thing I learned. No. They were uh ball born on the Isle of Man.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:33

Well, they weren't born there.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:35

They weren't?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:35

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:35

Oh, where were they born?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:36

The UK. Well, one of them was born in the UK and moved there as like a three or four years.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:40

Isn't the Isle of Man in isn't it in the UK?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:42

Oh, well, they've lived in Australia.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:45

Aurelia?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:47

I shouldn't speak. I don't know. I've said enough.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:50

Yeah, this is not a place you come to learn.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:53

And you may learn something, but I usually try to have a tip for everyone every time.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:57

Give me a tip.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:57

I already gave you my tip.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:58

What was it?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:59

Don't wake up a sleeping mother to give her bad news.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:01

Especially if girls are gonna try to I didn't say that part.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:05

That was your addition. You could just follow what I said would be enough. Alright, tell us about the Bee Gees.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:12

Bee Gees have been around for a while. I didn't realize they started in 1958. Technically a 50s bee.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:17

No wonder they're dead.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:18

No kidding. Yeah, they were uh Bee Gees are they're disco. I I I I honestly have not gotten super deep into the Bee Gees. Um but the more I learn about them, the more respect I have for them.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:33

I had to look up like if they played instruments and stuff because they have such big instrumentation on a lot of their music.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:40

Yeah. And they wrote a lot of their songs, they wrote a lot of songs for other people. They of course are known mainly for their disco success.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:51

What's their number one?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:53

Probably on Saturday Night Fever. Um just but they have like How Deep Is Your Love? I think that's probably a pretty huge one.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:03

Um it's a good song, actually.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:05

It is. They got a lot of great songs.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:07

I love uh I mean the one that we didn't broadway. The one that we're waiting in line's out the one that we're waiting in line to see is not like the others.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:16

It's not.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:16

And it's early, it's an early song. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:19

67 or 86. Which is like their fifth album. It shows you how long they've been around.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:25

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:26

Another one that was on there was uh I started a joke. They got the whole world laughing. You know that song? I don't think it's a really good song.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:36

Okay. I'll see. Maybe next week I'll be saying, Oh, I listened to that Bean Gees album.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:41

Well, it that it's got some duds on there if I remember right. But um, but they got a lot of good older stuff. Like you said, uh Blue Eyed Soul or Pale Faced Soul.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:53

There's all sorts of stupid subgenre names.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:56

Yeah. Um but uh I love I love I I can't say I love the Bee Gees because I don't know a ton about them.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:04

But I have heard some Bee Gees songs, like the one that we're talking about that I love very much.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:08

How'd you discover the song were you?

SPEAKER_02 1:42:09

I don't know. I just heard it. I get a lot of song discovery on Pandora. Um I think I probably heard this song maybe 15 years ago. Yeah. Something like that for the first time. Maybe 20, I guess. 15, 20 years ago. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:26

I was thinking about if I could use it at work, but I don't think I can.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:30

It's pretty, it's pretty dark. I love it because it's about dying. It is, and it's creepy, and it's um desperate and kind of sweet and horrible. It does the thing you like.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:44

What's the thing you like that it does?

SPEAKER_02 1:42:46

That tell us. Like care of cell 44, or we were just talking about another song. Like it. You we're gonna bring it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:54

Yeah, I forgot. It's okay now.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:56

Oh no, it's not okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:58

Oh see, we can't be thinking all this. Dang it. Okay, okay. See, I'll think of it all. Oh gosh, what's it? I think of it I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:05

Okay. Anyways, it it you got a you got a kind of a poppy upbeat tune with a really morose kind of message. Yeah. Which in this case the message. What do you think the message is?

SPEAKER_01 1:43:18

That he's gotta get to her?

SPEAKER_02 1:43:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:21

He's telling her where the treasure's buried. That's what I hope. I was gonna say, No, you are not gonna say that. I was gonna say you think it was treasure? My gosh, we did not plan that, I swear.

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SPEAKER_02 1:43:36

Um, he's got the uh yeah, that or maybe he poisoned her because he was mad, and then he's gonna tell her that.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:45

Or the antidote.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:47

Yeah, don't don't eat the don't eat the something. I've I shouldn't have done it, you know. But basically it's a song about a guy who I guess murdered I think the last mile. Is that like the green mile that he's gonna walk? Is that what that means? Um the preacher said Preacher says Preacher says Preacher says you can get Ebola simply by sneezing blood into somebody's hands.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:10

Oh mouth.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:13

Anyway. So it's a song about yeah, guy on death row, he's about to get the chair, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:18

Or the injection.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:19

Or yeah. Um, or the noose.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:22

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:23

Or maybe uh put him in front of a do they smother people to death in prison? Yeah, Lee Van Cleef used to do a lot of work that his executioner used to go around and put pillows on people's face.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:33

Did he hold them there?

SPEAKER_02 1:44:34

Shoot 'em. There's a lot of people who died by pillow. Pillows, some sort of associated pillow associated death. Yeah, pillow-related death. Uh PRD. You ever see the movie Bad Boys with Sean Penn? Not the Will Smith one.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:49

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:50

Uh he puts a bunch of uh soda cans in a pillowcase and beats a dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:55

No, I haven't seen that.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:56

Pretty sweet. We Clark and I were he hasn't seen it either, but we mentioned it in the car ride. Judy was getting upset. Oh no. Knocked out Judy, your mom. My mom. My mom, Judy. So the message.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:06

Uh it has some interesting musical components.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:12

What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 1:45:13

It's in two keys.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:16

The verses are in C, the chorus is in D.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:21

And and it has a proper key change.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:24

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:25

So like three. Do you think that's an artistic choice? I know key changes are pretty darn popular in even pop songs, but I was thinking the last E is like almost like I gotta get your attention.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:39

Okay, I think so because that's what this is what I was gonna say that I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:43

Is that that is a thing we do a lot in music therapy, is if you're playing a song, like if I have a group of people and I feel like I'm losing them, I'll change the key. I'll go up a step. And it makes people's eyes, oh, oh, something changed. You get their attention. Oh wow. And I do that a lot. I probably do that w at least once a week if I feel like I'm losing my my oldies. Uh, then I'll change the key. Always going up. If you go down, you don't tend to get the same like physiological response. Like they don't, they're not sitting there like, oh, she changed the key. They're just like, wait, something's different.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:18

More often than not, do key changes go up.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:21

In like music, but we're like what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:24

Yeah, like pop songs.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:26

Um but yeah, I think I agree with you. I think that very last key change is is a desperate.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:34

Yeah, like it's a yeah, like he's like crap. Like this is it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:38

It's getting closer. But it but the pillow is getting closer to the side.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:42

Like the melody and the workings of the song don't get any less. Like it's kind of a ha it could very easily be a happy song. Like it's a very um very well constructed song. Um, but it's it could be well, you got what uh what did I say? Not Toby Keith. Who's the Brad Paisley? No, Irvin. Uh Keith Urban. Keith Urban. So that's almost almost a country song version of it. You got Percy Sledge.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:08

Oh, okay. I have to listen to these other versions.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:10

Percy Sledge. So it was originally written for Percy Sledge, but I don't remember why it didn't work out.

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SPEAKER_01 1:47:18

Um a man loves a woman, Percy Sledge?

SPEAKER_02 1:47:20

Yes, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:21

Wow. Who kind of sings like this Kermit the Frog?

SPEAKER_02 1:47:25

Yeah, he's got a little Kermit, a little uh Aaron Neville.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:29

Like uh Love Air Never.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:30

I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:32

But also uh Barry Gibb kind of sings.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:36

What's Aaron Neville riding on? Because it sounds like he's riding on something when he's singing.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:39

I don't think he's dead, is he?

SPEAKER_01 1:47:40

No, but I mean when he's singing, it sounds like he lives on a small trampoline. He's singing.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:45

I think he's just singing into a fan. Like a box fan. Like Chris Farley. Doesn't sound anything like Aaron Neville. I like Aaron Neville five, but um he's a big did.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:02

I think he's kind of like short and he's like six.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:05

I think he's like my size.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:07

Well, he doesn't sound like he's big.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:09

No, he doesn't. But he does have like a he does a falsetto. Um he does a cool cover of uh the Gi Five uh Gi-5 This This is my story. It's uh admittedly inspired by our theme, uh inspired by our theme song.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:32

Yeah, I bet.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:32

But Aaron Neville does a version of that too.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:35

It's like this is my story. Do you think that Aaron Neville's gonna come for us? Like for copyright?

SPEAKER_02 1:48:41

I think Aaron Neville's probably a pretty cool dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:43

You think so?

SPEAKER_02 1:48:44

Yeah, he hangs out with Wycliffe Jean.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:46

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:47

They did they were on the carnival. He was on it, he did a song for the carnival.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:50

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:51

I don't know what the carnival is. The carnival, you you're gonna have to take that up with Caroline. Because I turned her on to that a while ago. She said she's you've listened to it. We've listened to it on road trips. It's one of my it's one of my favorite it's one of my favorite albums.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:05

Oh my gosh. If we had a f if we had a favorites corner, would you put it in there?

SPEAKER_02 1:49:08

It's going. I may just I may just do an outright episode about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:12

Oh my.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:13

I'll have to listen to it.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:14

One of these days I'm gonna do a cover of Song Song Th Z.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:18

Which is let's get back to the Bee Gees.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:20

Back to the Bee Gees. Okay. Mellotron is in it. They use a lot of Mellotron.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:25

Oh, what's a Mellotron?

SPEAKER_02 1:49:27

It's um so it's a key, it's a key keyed instrument. It looks like a keyboard. Keyboard instrument. I don't know exactly how it works, but tons and tons of 60s music had a Mellotron in it. Does it sound like you know the in the beginning of Strawberry Fields where it's like or like Lucy in the Sky, I think has one. The zombies use it, use it a ton on like uh Odyssey and Oracle. Um Care of Care of Cell 44 has one. It's it could make it could sound like uh horns, it could sound like a French horn, it could sound like a string quartet.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:04

So is it like an early synth kind of?

SPEAKER_02 1:50:07

Yeah, it's synth, but it's got this sort of like woo-woo woo-woo, yeah, sort of.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:11

Is there air moving through it?

SPEAKER_02 1:50:12

I think there is. I think there is. I think you can like I think you can like I think you can, but like an accordion. Or yeah. I'm saying yeah, like I know, but I think it is something similar. It's in the same ballpark, or maybe like a Leslie uh um, like one of those organs that has the like the whirring.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:35

That's my name.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:36

You should know.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:36

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:37

You're a music therapist, and it's your name. You should know.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:39

I made it. We're rich. But uh maybe Logan knows.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:45

When we so we covered the song. Yeah, the Percy Sledge song's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:49

Um But they did it first.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:51

They did it first. Okay. Yeah, they wrote it. They wrote it for Percy Sledge.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:56

Oh, so they wrote music for others.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:58

Yeah, they wrote they wrote um the song that you didn't know. Um that was they wrote before this in I think '67, the what is it? You really don't know the songs like You Don't Know What It's Like.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:11

All I keep thinking is You don't know me by the night. No, no, that's uh You will never shoot who is there.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:22

Shy lights? Who is there? I don't know. Um, anyways, that song was written for Otis Redding, who uh died before he was.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:34

I was gonna ask you if he didn't sing it because of his death.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:36

Yeah. Otis Redding is absolutely gonna be there.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:39

He's a headliner. He's another bigliner.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:42

Big uh big old man, big beautiful singer. He so this song could vary as as evidenced by Percy Sledge versions, which which I think worked quite well.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:53

Some of the words you just said didn't come out quite right.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:56

Well, we're going on two hours here. Oh my god. We're working on it, it's good. It's good.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:01

Well, some people in our house are hungry.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:04

Once a week we do this, we get in our closet, two microphones. Just be glad that you can't. Yeah. Dye my arms. I'm not even gonna kiss you.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:15

So, um, do we want to talk about our cover of it?

SPEAKER_01 1:52:17

Yeah, let's talk about our cover. I played keys.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:19

Yeah. When was that what when did you first hear this song?

SPEAKER_01 1:52:23

When you shared it with me on the way home from a band competition.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:27

So, like recently.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:28

No, yeah, I'd never heard of it before.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:29

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01 1:52:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:30

This was a hit.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:31

Remember, I thought the Bee Gees were black. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:34

It's been two hours, but this was a uh this was a hit. This was uh I think in number one in the UK, number eight in the U.S.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:42

Did you know that only like the Beatles and Elvis and maybe one other group has outsold Bee Gees?

SPEAKER_02 1:52:48

I'm not surprised by that. Are the Eagles in that list?

SPEAKER_01 1:52:53

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:54

Um anyways.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:56

I like the Eagles though.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:57

You like the Eagles? I do too.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:59

They're great work songs.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:00

So I I Oh a lot of people like them, and they're not hard to play. I wanted to start, so it starts off with a I I'm just gonna. But I wanted to play it up here. And do you know what does this sound uh that's not exactly it?

SPEAKER_01 1:53:26

I feel like I should be packing my car in some sort of montage or that.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:29

It's an I was I was inspired by that's how I started instead of that is by divided sky by fish. They kind of start sort of the like kind of upstroke. Yeah, I like I divided sky is one of my favorite the I don't know that.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:49

I'm gonna get our podcast fired. I don't put that fish don't care.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:53

It's okay. It's just a I think I do three-second samples.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:58

Well, you've already messed up.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:00

I wanted to put that, I like that little I like the little upstroke and then into uh key change. So I try to go with a and then back into the C.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:11

You know how they get from the C to the D? From the verse to the chorus? You know what chord they use to get to the D?

SPEAKER_02 1:54:17

Is it a seven?

SPEAKER_01 1:54:18

It's an A.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:18

Oh, it's a oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:20

And I mean that would you know that's nowhere in C. That's not even a five of five. D would be a five of five. So it's a five of five of five. It's in it's an inception borrowed chord.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:34

It's a five of five of five.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:35

I don't know if that's a thing, but I'm just saying the five of five for C would be D. And A is the five of D.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:44

Tune into our five of five capital V of capital V episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:48

Or don't. I'm too embarrassed to go back and listen to that one. I listened to it.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:51

So I listened to that one again. And uh no joke, I like learned something.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:57

Wow, you were there the first time.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:58

I know, but I like you were able to internalize it. Yeah, you don't have to worry about what we're gonna say. That's all that kind of crap.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:04

Well, hey, maybe somebody else will have learned something.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:06

I hope so. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:08

Well, one thing I like about what we're figuring out as we go along, not that we were ever trying to make it sound like the radio, but I feel like by you changing your little intro and having little changes that you want to make, like if we actually ever do play out, these will be our own Yeah, totally. Our own versions of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:27

Absolutely. And this was um, like I I mentioned, this is a a learning opportunity for me, but the when it does the key change to the E, um, he does in the in the recording, they do it just right, right away. Just as soon as the chorus ends, it goes key change right into, or as soon as the verse ends, key change. Um it I I I just could I tried it a couple times. I could I you could have.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:54

I could have helped you if you wanted to. But what you did was good.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:57

But I wanted to add that that kind of make it sort of panicky. Yeah, oh yeah. I cheated though, because then you played around.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:06

I could also, yeah, I got there and I could sing what we did a lot of when I was in college in choir, we did a lot of key changes, and there's like a lot of praise music that does that, like uh spiritual, not not contemporary praise music, but like black church music does that a lot. We sang a lot of that. You get really good at hearing where that next key change is going to be.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:28

You can almost sell when they're company if you don't know the song.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:30

Well, I mean you can just you know what the notes are gonna be because you've just done it so many times.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:35

Gotcha. Is that just uh what would you call it? Like just like drill interval changes or got it.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:40

It's like a muscle memory of the city.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:42

I really need to do that. I need to do that. There's uh Pat Martino is a uh jazz guitar player who said, like, I love listening to like really quippy one-liner tips from like the greatest, you know, guitarists of all time. And he said uh he always I think he said he always knows where the where the minor third and fifth intervals are for every note he plays.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:05

And he's like, that's pretty much it. I can just I'm paraphrasing, but it's like but you watch the guitar. That makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:11

Not that I can play the guitar like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:13

He's got an incredible story. Uh we don't have time to talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:15

I will say too that if you know how to read music. I don't know. I might do like I have a photographic memory. Because a lot of times when I'm recalling it when I'm recalling information, I'm I'm looking at it on the page I saw it originally.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:30

So would you say that's a Yeah, I don't know enough about what it what a photographic memory actually is.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:35

So when it comes to reading music, I can literally see the notes on the page. And then when I know we're going up a whole step, then I just read the next it's not real. I'm not holding it, but like in my mind I can read the music's eye. Yeah, and I can sing what's on the page. And I think that's a good that's why reading music is a great tool.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:59

Some uh some other things. I know, I need to learn.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:04

So other Oh, I thought you were gonna say, I know we need to end.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:06

Well, no, no, no. Well, speaking of speaking of like reading, like I I realized this is so stupid. Like for you, for those of you at at home, um, I mentioned this in the first episode. One of the reasons I wanted to do covers, there's a million of them, but one of them is because I like really have never bothered to learn a whole lot of songs.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:28

And uh he's a really good improver.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:31

It's true at fault though, but but yeah, thank you. Um I I realize how valuable it is to know the song. Because if I had I knew because I wanted to do like when I was playing um when I was playing like um I wanted to go like I wanted to like add some fills in.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:58

But they don't go where you're gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:59

But I gotta I gotta look at the words, and I gotta remember what the and my I just don't know the song well enough to like that and you gotta be pretty freaking good. Like I have a lot of respect for like the Warren Haynes's and the Jimi Hendrix's and beyond what the obvious, but just just being able to there's a lot happening when you're playing and singing. Play lead in rhythm and sing. It's crazy. Yeah, it's freaking crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:25

That's why everyone should have their child in a music education program.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:29

Preach.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:31

And that's why it's so good for your brain. If you want your kids to be smart and successful, make them learn an instrument. Don't wait till you're an adult.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:40

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:40

Well, you were playing an instrument as a child. Cello bass?

SPEAKER_02 1:59:44

Yeah, I played in fourth grade, played cello, walked it to school, loved it for like the first two days, and then it's like, hey, wish I picked up violin so bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:51

Sometimes when I was getting off the bus, I was so tired. I had had to walk up a big hill when I would get off the bus, and I had my trombone with me. Sometimes I left it at the bottom of the hill so that my No one ever stole it. So weird.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:07

Wanted to do on this song was um when the very last message to you before the big key change was that little arpeggiated like.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:17

Yeah, it's pretty. That was really pretty.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:25

That was really hard to sing to while I was picking that.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:28

It's very hard to sing to a a single note pattern.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:30

And it uh do you know the song Bubble Goose by Yclef?

SPEAKER_01 2:00:34

Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:35

At the end, I think it's a harp, if I remember right. It's uh they've my mind kind of went there when I did when I did that part.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:43

So I want to give a little marsh to Ycfleff.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:44

I want to give a shout-out to Fish. I want to give a shout-out to uh to Yclef. And uh because you you guys really very instrumental and uh in the cover of the speeches classic. Um the who would you uh who else would you like to hear do a cover of this?

SPEAKER_01 2:01:04

Oh gosh, I forgot to think about that question. Do you have an answer?

SPEAKER_02 2:01:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:08

Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:09

Um well, I really want to hear Otis Redding do it.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:13

I mean Sam Cook.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:15

Yeah, but like Otis, just because of finding out that you know he was dead.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:18

It's supposed to be his song, sure.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:20

You gotta listen to that. We'll we'll play that song for you later. It's a great tune. I know you've heard it before. Okay. Um also, what do you think about uh Ray Charles and Willie Nelson? Woody Nelson Brain is shot. Toy Story Ray Charles and Willie Nelson, like uh Spanish Angels.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:38

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:39

Like I feel like they could get it.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:42

Willie Nelson could do it.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:43

Anybody could this song is could be covered by any genre.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:46

Any anyone who had to commit murder.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:50

You know, life circumstances. You don't know what circumstances you're gonna be in. You're gonna have to commit murder.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:55

What freaking song were we gonna talk about?

SPEAKER_01 2:01:57

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:58

Why didn't we write it down?

SPEAKER_01 2:02:00

Was it uh ground control to Major Tom?

SPEAKER_02 2:02:03

Yeah, I've been thinking that the whole time uh David. Space Odyssey. Yeah. Yes, that's exactly it. Clark, we were driving, and uh Clark was Clark drives me a lot. You know, again, my son. We often go to the same place. His school where I work in the schools. He's like, geez, he's like, this song is really sad.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:30

Was it the ground control?

SPEAKER_02 2:02:32

Yeah, I'm like, yeah, it is. But it sounds so happy, yeah. Like, even it sounds happy to the point that even in was it Mr. Deeds? It's like boom, dunno, dunno, and then the pilots turn around, they're like, But it that song's great. That song has all sorts of parts to it, and I love it.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:52

One thing I promised myself that I was gonna stop doing was gonna be agreeing with you every time you made a reference, like I knew what you're talking about. You don't know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:58

So I don't know what you're talking about. I was like, how do you know that you knew it? Of all the freaking references I make.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:05

Because I went back and listened to a few and I'm like, why am I agreeing with him all the time? I don't know what he's talking about. I'm constantly like, oh yeah, yeah. And you'll be like, you know that one? I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:15

Mr. D, like a random scene from like Adam Saylor's twelfth best movie. Speaking of Adam Saylor movies, uh I'm kind of finish. No, I no. What uh do you gotta um sorry Uncut Gems? Well, uncut gems, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:36

What about it? Uh just we were talking about that's not a that's not a TV show to watch before bed.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:40

No, but always sunny. We were talking about how the in in the arrested development, all the characters are so terrible you don't care what happens to them. I know uncut gems is supposed to be like a big, like, just make you feel super uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:53

And I did.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:53

I did not. I almost was cathartic watching it. I felt I think you said that. Yeah, because it's like all this terrible stuff is happening to these people and not me. I can sit back and watch this.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:04

They're family. But they're all awful.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:06

The only one in that in that movie who wasn't terrible was uh like the father-in-law? Yeah, gooey. Yeah, uh uh what's that what's the actor's name?

SPEAKER_01 2:04:15

I don't know. I don't know anything. That's another tagline. The audience won't like it because one of the hosts doesn't know anything.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:22

He was in taxi uh Independence Day. Uh oh. You know who he is. Yeah.

unknown 2:04:28

Dang it.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:28

It's gonna kill me. All right. Is there anything else we want to talk about? About the uh gotta get a message to you.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:36

No.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:36

There's some probably some other things I want to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:39

Oh my gosh, Rob. I'm listening to the two and a half hour podcast. We're not Joe Rogan. I just Joe, we're coming for your job.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:48

Oh, yeah, I'd like to hear Romstein do it.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:50

I wanna hear that.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:51

That's what it is. And I think I I wouldn't hear like a like a like a Eastern European industrial kind of metal band do it. I think it'd be kind of cool.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:01

Now, I don't want this for this song. But I really long for a song where I say, I want to hear Justin Beaver sing that.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:11

Like specifically. You're like, that's the one.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:14

I just I feel like Justin Beaver's a great singer, but he doesn't do enough for me. I want to see what he can really do.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:22

Okay. I'll I'll keep my eye out. Okay. You would you like to hear him take a shot at this one?

SPEAKER_01 2:05:27

No, I'm just I just said not this song, but a future song.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:32

You want to know what song, what what movie I think would be perfect for this song? What? Rogue One.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:38

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh, you know I love that movie. That's great though.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:44

Because at the very end, it's just so frantic to get that to spoiler alert, but to get what where you're gonna do it. It's a frantic message that somebody needs to get to someone. Or what else I put? I think I was spitballing road trip, the movie road trip.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:57

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:58

Maybe Memento could be like kind of an artsy way of application of that message. Yeah. Well, oh yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:07

There's some duality in that. I like that.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:09

It's good. It's good.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:11

Awesome. We really appreciate your time, guys.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:13

Thank you. That is a wrap. It sounds like this. If you want to hear us cover this song. Yeah. That's all right. It's two hours to column this for two hours and six minutes and forty-seven seconds.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:24

Oh my gosh, every week's getting longer. Shh shh. It's supposed to. I don't know if I agree with that. We might have to have an off-air meeting about the length of this thing. Oh no. We'll figure it out. We might have to cut corners.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:37

My favorites corn? No. We can't cut the favorites corner.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:40

Consumption corner.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:41

The consumption corner.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:42

Alright, guys, we'll check us out on YouTube. Yeah. If you want to see our cover. Follow, subscribe, do those things. Download. Uh, and stay tuned to see if you stay tuned to see if there's a corner on the next episode.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:54

Oh, there will be a corner. There'll be a freaking city block.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:57

High five me.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:59

We're married.