From Pork Pie Hats to Skyfall: We Still Argued About Mixolydian | Ep 14

Two musicians chase a thread from Mingus to Bond to a country classic, arguing about tones, tactics, and the one chord that makes a chorus bloom. We cover The Chicks’ Cold Day In July and pull apart how arrangement choices change the story a song tells.

• what Corrections Corner fixed and why we keep it
• Aunt Viv, Kafka, and pop culture running jokes
• Mingus Ah Um, Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, and Joni’s Mingus
• Jeff Beck’s lyric guitar and pedal point blues
• Skyfall highlights, plot logic, and set-piece craft
• Q fantasies, Home Alone traps, and Bond-era vibes
• The Chicks’ lineage, Joy Lynn White, Richard Leigh
• Dobro tone, Jerry Douglas, and harmony decisions
• Mixolydian flavor, flat seven tension, space in arrangements
• Silk Sonic and Aerosmith as alternate covers and B-sides

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Transcript

Welcome, Format, And Corrections Corner

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Let me number one uh part of the correction corner is where I realize I need to enunciate a little bit more. I'm kind of a little sluggish with my speech sometimes.

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Say lure. There you go, thank you.

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I sound like uh George Decay. Lure. I love that guy. Hello.

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Oh hello.

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Two married friends in a little room surrounded by clothing and three microphones. I didn't think I get that. They got in a car crash. She died in his arms. He kissed her lips. This is you, baby. Come here. This is gonna go real well.

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You're not tired at all.

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What key are we even in anymore? The audience is gonna hate that. Space key? Space key. Yeah.

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We gotta get a little bit of uh satisfaction on that.

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Uh I can't get now.

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Whoa, what happened? Hey, I got it. That was your fault. Well, that's probably what my worst second best intro.

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I don't know. So far, I don't know. You have a little bit of improvement.

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This is episode 14.

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Good job.

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And uh yeah, I'd say I'm getting somewhere. I didn't actually say the name of the song or the uh show in the song.

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No, but this is Welcome to being too cute. Welcome to the audience won't like it.

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I'm Rob Shoecraft.

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And I'm Leslie Shoecraft.

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We're married. You want to put your headphones on? Oh. I thought something felt kind of weird.

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Did you feel like I was shouting and you were not shouting?

SPEAKER_01 2:04

I'm kind of used to shouting.

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Anyway, welcome to episode 14. 14?

SPEAKER_01 2:09

I think so. I wrote it there.

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You know what? I guess you guys you could tell us.

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Yeah.

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You could tell us.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Uh hey, why don't you explain what the show's about?

SPEAKER_05 2:19

All right. Well, welcome to the show. This show is a bit of a music podcast. It's a bit of a hilarious nonsense married people podcast. Do you not like the way I do it or do you just like to see what I say?

SPEAKER_01 2:31

No, keep going.

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So at in each episode, you can look forward to hearing a cover. If you follow us on YouTube, you can see it.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

The cover of a song. Yeah, well, a cover of Not like Not like Kitty Wills's.

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Law, we haven't talked about those baby kit. Kit Kat. Okay. Anyway, we'll be we'll be doing a cover of a song. And um what we like to do is pretend that we're in line to see that band.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

Sometimes I think we might be.

unknown 2:56

Hmm.

SPEAKER_05 2:57

What? It's very meta.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:59

Uh sorry, I didn't wait. And while you're in, you know, when you if you've ever waited in line, raise your hand if you haven't waited in line. But that's way too much.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

Wish I could wait in that line.

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Yesterday at Walmart I said, 'Tis the season to wait in line, and the lady in front of me thought, that was the funniest thing she'd ever heard. I was knocking them out of the park. Um I know just what to say to little old ladies.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

It's so dumb.

unknown 3:23

It's great.

SPEAKER_05 3:24

And anyway, while you're waiting in line, sometimes you have to talk to the people around you whether you want to or not. And it's a great idea to have some some. Some little bit of marriage in between, yeah. Oh, yeah, a little bit of marriage.

SPEAKER_03 3:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:35

A little bit of small talk, and then you might work your way into like a longer small, a medium talk.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

Where would you start?

SPEAKER_05 3:43

Yeah, you might start by talking about like some things you've consumed over the last week, like media.

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So you get somebody on maybe it's a it's it's word like the sidewalk at an intersection.

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Uh-huh.

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Or maybe you're you get a little bit of a seat and there's a corner there. It forms a corner.

SPEAKER_05 3:58

Okay. Oh, so yeah, you might trape trip traip around some corners.

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Yeah. Trip, trip, trip trap. You might trip, you might trape, you might troop. Into a corrections corner.

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Or trip into one.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

We start in the corrections corners. Oh.

SPEAKER_05 4:11

Yeah. What are you gonna correct me on?

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Well, I think. I I put some Aunt Viv stuff in there. We we we we won't. There's just not time. There's not time for this.

SPEAKER_05 4:22

There's not time because we only do this for 90 minutes. We don't do it for two hours.

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It's been proclaimed. So corrections corner is where I like to address some questions and mistakes from the previous week. I'm sure I didn't get all of them, but uh I want to go deeper. So this is consumption corner going into the corrections corner into Are we making like an infinity? There's another corner underneath.

SPEAKER_05 4:46

Uh-oh. It's you didn't catch it corner?

SPEAKER_01 4:49

Rob didn't catch it corner. Right. How big is this? Well, this is when Leslie says something funny. I and I just blew right by. There's only two things on here. I think I got most of them. Uh you sang. No, the guy's prepare to laugh really hard, like that lady at Walmart, because this is funny. You sang, I'm a son of a carpenter ant at some point. And the well, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:13

What were we talking about?

SPEAKER_01 5:15

Uh I apparently carpenter ants. I don't remember ever talking about carpenter ants. But um and I did I I missed it. And it was it was it was good.

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Thanks.

SPEAKER_01 5:24

It was good.

SPEAKER_05 5:25

Uh you brought that back up again.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

You also uh you also made a joke about their about if if these kind of mics were on the set of Dolomite hanging basically hanging down. You made a Dolomite joke.

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And I think if you've seen Dolomite, there's a couple of boom mics hanging in the shot a couple of the shots. Yes.

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It's a delightful film.

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It's like an Easter egg for you.

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Delightful film. Watch it with your family.

SPEAKER_05 5:48

Um don't watch it with your family. Don't watch it. You don't need to watch it. It's not that good.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Uh I did so uh Metamorphosis. I did I did say, do we have a missed opportunity to mention the metam metamorphosis of Aunt Vivian? I thought we would continue that where she went from I cannot remember either actress's name.

SPEAKER_05 6:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

I think I like the first one better, but the last one, she was fine.

SPEAKER_05 6:11

Who was in the um the the one we got all teared up about that one day that one episode?

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Oh, oh I feel like that was the I feel like that was an OG Aunt Viv, but I can can you look up the names while I'm uh please, please, please, please go ahead while I talk about Franz Kafka.

SPEAKER_05 6:29

Okay, is that with something you've done?

SPEAKER_01 6:30

Yeah, in 1915 he wrote uh Metamorphosis. It's a little little novella about Gregor Samsa or Samsa as a salesman who wakes up as an insect. Also, uh Philip K.

Aunt Viv, Metamorphosis, And Pop Culture Fixes

SPEAKER_05 6:42

Dick wrote not John Skulsey.

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John Skulsey wrote Android's Dream. Philip K. Dick wrote Android's Dream of Electric Shit.

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That's what I read.

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I've read Skalsy book Dream is what Blade Runners based on.

SPEAKER_05 6:57

It was well, first actress was called Janet Hubert. Okay, the second was called Daphne Maxwell Reed.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

I think Janet Hubert might have got done kind of wrong.

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Did she get done dirty?

SPEAKER_01 7:09

I think she got pushed out somehow. I don't know. Look it up.

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Okay.

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I'll be on the corrections corner next time. We're just gonna talk about Anne V for like the next 50 episodes.

SPEAKER_05 7:17

She's gonna He had a it was Will Smith's fault. He had a contentious relationship with her.

SPEAKER_01 7:22

Oh Will did he smack slap her in the face?

SPEAKER_05 7:27

We probably shouldn't talk about that. 50 Cent will come for us.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

Really?

SPEAKER_05 7:31

Oh, I can talk about that.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

Oh, yeah. Okay, save it for the save it when we're back out of the corner. We're not quite there. We're still on the corrections of the corrections. Um I said Northern Star, Southern Cross, it's Northern the Light, Southern Cross. I correct, I said it once correctly and said it wrong once incorrectly.

SPEAKER_05 7:51

I said it wrong incorrectly.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

Doesn't matter. Uh the three singers of the band, the three main singers, were uh Rick Danko, Levon Hellman, Richard Manuel or Manuel. Crap! Now I've got to do a corrections corner for this.

SPEAKER_05 8:05

No, you don't.

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And the cold play front man was Chris Martin.

SPEAKER_05 8:09

Didn't I say that?

SPEAKER_01 8:10

Uh no, you didn't say his name.

SPEAKER_05 8:11

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 8:12

And they were definitely married, Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin. Um in 2003, and they had a child named Apple? Yes, and what they had in 2014.

SPEAKER_05 8:24

A divorce.

SPEAKER_01 8:25

No, I wouldn't call it that. A child? I well, I wouldn't call it a divorce. They'd call it something else.

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A disillusion.

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A conscious uncoupling.

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Oh.

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Isn't that nice? I almost do you want to would you would you consider just to see what it's like?

SPEAKER_05 8:41

No. Okay. Sorry. That was too loud. Just like uh No, they're not.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

No, they get divorced.

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Divorced.

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We're we are conscious, unconsciously coupling, I would say. We just make it so easy.

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Some days it's conscious coupling.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

Oh there you go. Um why don't you let me uh go ahead and start off with a nice little light little light uh light listen? Just float a little light.

SPEAKER_05 9:05

I do have a I I you know I have a few little things, but they're not like they're not gonna compare to what you have, so you better get it started.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

Well, I have a few things.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

Is that is that what you're getting at?

SPEAKER_05 9:13

Well you you could have two things and it would take four times as long as me. No, that's why you're here.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

That's why you're here. This would be an 18-hour podcast if it was just me talking to the microphone.

SPEAKER_05 9:23

Like, Rob, Rob, it's time to go to work.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

Rob, Rob, you've your battery's been dead for 17 and a half hours.

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Talking to yourself.

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I'd be I wouldn't even be that disappointed.

SPEAKER_05 9:34

We're thinking about moving, guys.

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Yeah.

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From this closet into the basement.

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We've been checking out new real estate in our house.

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We've been uh we we didn't we we made an offer and it was rejected. So we've had to uh look elsewhere.

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Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_05 9:49

And the first place we put an offer in on was too small.

unknown 9:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

We'll get it figured out. We will. So uh Stephanie Davis, ever heard of her? The gift?

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Is that the girl I was talking about? Yeah, you told me to listen to it. Did you like the song?

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I did like the song.

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Do you see why I liked it though?

SPEAKER_01 10:06

Yeah, it's uh it's nice, it's got like uh some kind of Spanish guitar, some flamenco going on. I said that it it sounded a little bit like Good Time Charlie's got the blues and a Spanish flamenco.

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I know that.

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You know that song?

SPEAKER_05 10:19

I don't think so.

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Our boy uh I know our boy Wayland Jennings has a version of it.

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Does he?

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Mm-hmm.

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Wow, I'll have to listen to it.

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Earl Clue has a nice instrumental version of it.

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Aww.

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Uh Rich, uh something rich.

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Big and rich.

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Good country. They probably do. Check out Good Time Travelers Got the Blues, it's a good song.

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Good Time Travel's Got the Blues, y'all.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

Lay it on me. What you've been at.

SPEAKER_05 10:40

Well, I've been getting a little into the the G Love.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

Oh, a little special sauce?

SPEAKER_05 10:45

Yeah, I think there might be a song out there that we can do. There's one that he does with a lady, and I cannot remember anything about it right now, but I've been I've been thumbs up in my G Love every time it comes on, and so it's starting to come in a little bit more. That was something that my sister was very into in the 2000.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

I'm trying to remember what album. I had an album or two with them.

SPEAKER_05 11:07

And they got tickets to go see him at a whiskey bourbon area? Brewery? What do they call those things? Distillery area.

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What is it you're talking about?

SPEAKER_05 11:18

Where they make bourbon concerts.

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Was it like a brewery? Yeah, but it was where they was a bourbon distillery.

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Yeah, it said distillery.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:28

Yeah. Well, they got they got to go to that, and Solar was really excited. I think she won tickets on the radio. There was a real long era of my sister winning stuff on the radio. Remember when she took that Burt Reynolds record in?

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Yeah.

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Had like a spread.

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Yeah.

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Like a center fold.

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Was he uh shirt listener, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And she won some tickets. Is that how we got the tickets to flaming lips and Beck?

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Might have been.

SPEAKER_05 11:48

I think it was. We got to meet we got to meet Bet Beck in Swords.

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I didn't go to Bet I didn't go to Beck. You you did. I went to Flamingo. Yeah, it was Laura.

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It was me and Laura. Anyway, G Love, Special Sauce. I'm getting. Does he is that person is that a person or a band?

SPEAKER_01 12:01

G Love and the Special Sauce?

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G Love is the singer.

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As far as I know.

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The bander. And the special sauce is people.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

That is how he's always been in my head. That's the been the arrangement. Because he like That's been how it is. Think about uh what Rodeo Clowns were his he I think he refers to himself as G Love when he introduces Jack Johnson. I had I can't remember what album I had. It had like Cold Beverage on it and Fat Man and Baby's Got Sauce and I may be blending stuff, but yeah, I I like I like some G Love. I'd definitely be down for that. Yeah, I think that He has like a basketball song if I remember right.

SPEAKER_05 12:36

Oh well you know I'd like for you for that G Love to work its way onto that playlist that we have for the beach.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Oh. The one that plays like it's like half sublime. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 12:47

And Weezer and stuff like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

Yeah, cool. Cool. Okay, we can work some G Love into that. Next up, we gotta go to the beach. That's the problem.

SPEAKER_05 12:55

We're now taking vacation recommendations, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

Yeah. Yeah, write in to uh go ahead and I'll look up what I'm gonna say next. You tell them where to write in.

SPEAKER_05 13:04

Oh, uh just like on the YouTube channel. Just gonna put a comment on.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

There you go. Put on the YouTube channel, or you can comment on sp Spotify or does I does it does Apple have if they do, I'm not a I don't know how to do it. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 13:17

Oh, if you go, I know you can't on A fun game to play though on Apple while you're still whatever it is you're doing over there, is they probably they all do this, but they have auto-generated uh transcription of the uh and I was reading one and it was cracking me up because I thought everything I was reading it as if I was saying certain things and you were saying the other things, and then I went back and listened to it and you were saying all of the things that I thought I was saying.

unknown 13:43

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

Do we have any idea what we're doing? No. No.

SPEAKER_05 13:48

So if you want to have a fun game for yourself, is you could you could read the transcription for the first few lines and try to decide who's saying what, and you'd probably be wrong.

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It'd be the just a little hop, skip, and a jump from the in or out game.

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Wow.

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We have talked about that on the case.

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We're now we're self-referential.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

Yeah, that's right.

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Um Which isn't good, actually.

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Maybe I wonder if my brother will be down here next. What if he'd be down for your brother? Yeah. For maybe playing playing it on the uh Joe, we need you to get air, if you uh if you will.

SPEAKER_05 14:18

So we need you at Christmas.

SPEAKER_01 14:19

In or out is uh it's a farting game. We have to guess whether my brother's sucking in air or blowing it out.

SPEAKER_05 14:25

We've already mentioned it, so if you want to listen to them both at equal volume. Go back to the nostalgia.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

Every fifth episode we'll mention that. So every episode every at least every other episode, we're talking about Aunt Viv. We're talking about Uncle Dan. Kitty Wells. Kitty Wells always makes an appearance. Okay. Uh we have a concert. You were talking about our concert real quick.

SPEAKER_05 14:42

Sure. We have a concert. We're in the works uh uh putting together with some posthumous.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

Did you get it you get any uh cycles in this week?

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What's that mean?

SPEAKER_01 14:51

Did you get to work on it at all today this week?

SPEAKER_05 14:53

Oh, yeah, a little bit, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:55

Did you? Cool. I've made some calls.

SPEAKER_05 14:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Go continue. I'm sorry to cut you off.

SPEAKER_05 15:00

Uh anyway, so we're putting together like a you know, we are the world type of uh benefit concert. Who's it gonna benefit? Yeah, live aid.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

Uh it's it's to Like our vacation fund? It's to bring back uh yeah, well, that'll be part of it.

SPEAKER_05 15:15

Um Will Walt Disney be there since he's cryogenically present.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

Yeah. Yes. He might be there just in okay. He'd be an exception of one of the could one of the ones that could come live.

SPEAKER_05 15:31

He might be the only one.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Does that count as a resurrection?

SPEAKER_05 15:35

You tell me.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

Well, that's what reverse odd oddly enough, our funds are as soon as we can crack resurrection on demand, we're going to help. So the money that you donate now is going toward that directly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:49

And we're not a not profit, there's no black box. Oh, I can talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 15:52

If you want to leave us money, just do like uh your your uh your private key on Bitcoin on the YouTube comments. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:00

We may pause just to let you know, we might be getting a lot of barking soon because I think a delivery truck just pulled up.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Oh, I wanna have to sign for something.

SPEAKER_05 16:08

Well, okay, we'll be able to hear knocking.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Maybe you will. You hear you hear something.

SPEAKER_05 16:13

If they knock, Groover will go crazy. That's true. So we'll know.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

Cool, good call. Okay, um, so on the last one, we talked about we've we read from my saved Reddit posts.

SPEAKER_05 16:23

Oh, that's true.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

And you were talking about beautiful jazz music.

SPEAKER_05 16:27

You went and listened to some.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

So I listened to a healthy dose of it, and I got a little bit stuck. So I'll just re read through some stuff I I listened to real quick. I um Green and Blue, Miles Davis, Peace Peace, Bill Evans.

SPEAKER_05 16:42

Both of those I recall from this podcast that we did together.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

Yeah. Waltz for Debbie, also Bill Evans.

SPEAKER_05 16:48

Was that the one on the dead floating girl? But she's not dead.

SPEAKER_01 16:51

Uh it's not I don't think that's on there. Oh, but that's who you were talking about. Yes, that is Bill Evans. I'm in the middle of the city. Look at you on the Dead Floating Girl. Also known as uh Undercurrent.

SPEAKER_05 17:00

She's swimming, actually.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

Uh it's a good album. Uh okay, so My Foolish Heart, um Sentimental Mood with uh Duke Ellington and Coltrane. Um, but I got kind of stuck, a little bit stuck on uh goodbye pork pie hat.

SPEAKER_05 17:21

I went down some serious Can you tell me why it's called that, please?

SPEAKER_01 17:26

Goodbye pork pie hat is a s is a piece written by Charles Mingus for on his album Mingus Ah Um or Aum or Aum? How do you say that?

SPEAKER_05 17:41

Where is it?

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Uh uh um Oh sorry about that Mingus ah um ASMR.

SPEAKER_05 17:51

Groover, was somebody here?

SPEAKER_01 17:52

Groover, who came? I know, I don't want to get them all riled up. Um but uh hang on a second.

SPEAKER_05 18:01

How do you how do you what? Um, dead air.

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Okay.

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I'm petting the dog, I'm petting the dog.

Mingus Ah Um And Goodbye Pork Pie Hat

SPEAKER_01 18:09

Okay. Uh Lester Young. It was written about about Lester Young, a saxophone player who is pretty much uh Mount Rushmore level of jazz pioneers.

SPEAKER_05 18:23

Was he did he look like a pig?

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He wore a hat called a pork pie hat.

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What is a pork pie hat?

SPEAKER_01 18:29

It's I was trying to find.

SPEAKER_05 18:31

Is it like a tricorn hat? Do you think our friend Dennis has one?

SPEAKER_01 18:34

It looks like a look like a kind of a flat top fedora sort of.

SPEAKER_05 18:37

Um like a boat hat?

SPEAKER_01 18:40

Here. That's that's not it. Hang on. Here, this guy. This dude.

SPEAKER_05 18:48

I don't like that look.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

Well, he did. And so did Charles Mingus. So they called him uh Yeah. So they were they were uh pals and he and he wrote it, he wrote it for him after he passed away. And uh Goodbye, pork pie. It is a beautiful song. I had heard it before, but I was way more familiar with the Jeff Beck version. Um he's a guitar player.

SPEAKER_05 19:14

I know. I do know who Jeff Beck is.

SPEAKER_01 19:16

It's on Wired, I think, is the name of that one.

SPEAKER_05 19:18

Hey, if you're gonna write me a song, uh-huh, could you let me hear it before I die?

SPEAKER_01 19:24

If I'm gonna if I'm gonna write you a song.

SPEAKER_05 19:27

Like you said he wrote it for him after he died. Oh I want to hear it. I want to hear it.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

I think that's why I'm sitting here, I'm kind of like hesitating because number one, the dog's drinking out of the toilet. Number two, I'm listening for a knock. I think they're I'm so distracted right now.

SPEAKER_05 19:42

Rob's been really tired in the last two days.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

I'm like falling asleep. Okay, so go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 19:48

Uh I just want if you're gonna take the time to write me something, I'd like to hear it before I'm dead.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

Okay. And then I c and then we we kill you.

SPEAKER_05 19:58

You and

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Kitty Wells Ghost.

SPEAKER_05 20:01

Kitty Wells Ghost. She flies right through me. She's gonna be a little bit more. She takes my soul out the other side. Yeah. Kind of like uh she inhabits me.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

Yeah. That's not exactly dying.

SPEAKER_05 20:11

Well, I die. The longer she stays in there, the further I dead. Further I dead.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

So I listened to uh I listened to this album probably three or four times this week. I went up, listened to it in my uh private theater. My private theater. In the morning I got up at five. It's my new routine.

SPEAKER_05 20:28

That's why you're tired.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

Well, I always get up at five.

SPEAKER_05 20:31

I know. Sounds horrible. Sorry about it.

SPEAKER_01 20:33

The only difference is rather than sitting in in bed and looking at my phone, I go upstairs. Sit it on and sit in a recliner and listen to music. Mingus ah um.

SPEAKER_05 20:44

Do you look at your phone?

SPEAKER_01 20:44

Which is Latin sort of. For I think he was like playing around with with I think he's just making I I I I tried to understand what is it Latin declension? Basically, so in Latin. I have no idea what you're talking about. In Latin, a word. I think prepare to be Corrections Corner is gonna be overflowing next week. And you know what? I'm done. This is it. And once I say it, I'm not I don't care.

SPEAKER_05 21:11

I said Latin today too.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Did you? You said the word Latin?

SPEAKER_05 21:14

I I did, and I also spoke in reference to the word. So Kawhi Faithful has a has a Latin verse.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

So or any you know what I'm not gonna pretend to. In Latin, like if you say uh the microphone or the the microphone stance uh or the microphone wire, or basically in st I'm totally getting this wrong, but the microphone danced, right? Uh huh. You would attach the the the word whatever the word for microphone in Latin is, and I'm sure there is one.

SPEAKER_03 21:51

Yes, I'm sure there definitely is one.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Whatever that is, it would change itself rather than having the microphone does this verb or the microphone is I understand. Yeah. So it's some variation of that.

SPEAKER_05 22:06

Pork pie hat?

SPEAKER_01 22:09

Yeah, I'm so off. The name why he called his album that. He's like having some Latin nerd nerdery. I have no idea. Okay, move on. I don't know, he's smarter than me. Anyways, I do want to talk about um I do want to talk about the album real quick because it it is it is awesome and it very much grew on me. And I was not surprised to look up later that it has like five stars from it's considered like one of the greatest jazz albums of all time.

SPEAKER_05 22:34

Five stars from Mount Rushmore itself.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

Um it has uh what is it? Get uh Get It Is it Get In Your Soul? I I wrote down some of the albums, but it opens up with that, and it is a sick. It's uh it's like danno nano, but it's all these horns and piano, it's this huge sound.

SPEAKER_03 22:55

I like that.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

It's got kind of like a almost like a gospel kind of I wouldn't say it sounds gospel, but it's definitely like I guess a lot of his style is gospel influence. Does that have an organ on it? I don't know. I don't know. It's got a lot of keys, though. There's a lot of keys.

SPEAKER_05 23:11

Remind me who we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

Charles Mingus. Okay. That album. The album The Goodbye Pork Pie Had It Had is on. I wanted to get into the album.

SPEAKER_05 23:16

Goodbye pork by had it.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

Goodbye pork by it. Okay, so Charles Mingus used to dance to his daddy.

SPEAKER_05 23:24

He was a little latty.

SPEAKER_01 23:25

He was a little latty. When the boat came in, he would do he would do this. He would do this dance.

SPEAKER_05 23:30

The pork pie dance.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

And he would do this thing with his bass, because he's a bass player, but he would also, he also composed all this music. And he did this uh thing, he do this thing with this bass, and he did it several times in this album, where he's kind of like a it's like a plucking sort of like a like it snaps, yeah, but he's doing it very percussive like, and it's almost like he hits the note, like the note will sound it's almost like he's hammering the note on and then like snapping it off.

SPEAKER_05 23:59

That was loud.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

And it's a weird, it's a really weird effect. It's one of those effects that I cannot work to. Like he does it a lot on. It's too distracting. Yeah, but if I'm but I'm just sitting there just soaking it in, it's it's quite neat. But it's um it was on it was on oh, doggone it. I really need to space this out.

SPEAKER_05 24:20

Um I don't I don't think you do.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

No, no, no, no, no. Uh no, hang on. Uh, the name of the song is driving me nuts because it sounds, it sounds oh, pedal point blues. It's called Pedal Point Blues, and he's doing a lot on that, and it's got this kind of droning sound to it, but the bass line on it is sick. It sounds a lot like you don't you don't know the song Nautilus by Bob James, do you?

SPEAKER_05 24:43

I don't know, off the top of my head.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

So Nautilus is like it was used by Run DMC, used by Eric B and Rakim.

SPEAKER_05 24:49

Um did he play it at the concert we went to?

SPEAKER_01 24:51

I I don't think he did. No. But this sounds a lot like it. I looked up to see if they were if they because it sounds similar enough that I thought maybe Bob James was I'm sure he was a big Mingus fan, but anyways, I I wrote a lot more stuff about Charles Mingus, but I could tell you know what we're talking about, neither do I. So what else what else did you do?

SPEAKER_05 25:11

I listened to a Sean Ryan podcast.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Yeah, I started listening to that.

SPEAKER_05 25:15

Oh yeah, what's the guy's name? Nathan Apfel like that.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

I can tell you if you keep going.

SPEAKER_05 25:19

Do you like it so far?

SPEAKER_01 25:21

It's it's okay. I'm gonna keep listening to it.

SPEAKER_05 25:23

Basically he's given this.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Nathan Apfel.

SPEAKER_05 25:26

Apfel. He's given this the history of how has he gotten to that part yet? He talks about the history of how um nonprofit organizations became a thing.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

I don't think he got into that.

SPEAKER_05 25:38

Yeah, it's probably halfway through. It's in the early 1900s.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

And um He's talking about working with the MS 13 kind of ridden, like gang ridden areas and uh people. I thought you would be I thought you'd know what I was talking about. Okay, never mind. I'm in the beginning.

SPEAKER_05 25:59

Okay, okay. Anyway, it's very fascinating, it gives a lot of history about nonprofit organizations and then furthermore, nonprofit religion or religious organizations. Mega churches. Yeah, his whole his whole platform is to m make that more transparent so people who are giving their money, benevolence, tithing, that kind of stuff. Um, there's an actual paper trail for where it's going instead of why does the mega church preachers have three Jeeps or three Jeeps, three jets.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

And I'd like to know why they have three jeeps as well.

SPEAKER_05 26:30

And then my friend Renee, she told me about a there's an Instagram account called Preachers and Sneakers. And I guess I haven't looked at it, but I guess it's just um it started off like so people were just like snapping pictures of preachers and they're like three hundred dollar sneakers. And it's just escalated from there. Now that's like watches and you know very, very high-end stuff. And like the word he uses a lot in the podcast is like all of that is antithetical to the teaching of the church that they claim to be believing. But he's actually a great guy because he never really agree with that. He never really says anything bad about the people. He he thinks he's he says, I just choose to believe that they think they're doing the Lord's work.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

It's very good. Okay. And it's a you said it's a series.

SPEAKER_05 27:25

Mm-hmm. I it's called a docuseries, so I have to imagine.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

What's a three I don't know if I do I know uh have I ever seen or worn a three hundred dollar pair of sneakers?

SPEAKER_05 27:34

Have you ever seen them? Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

What about uh at uh at our at our pal's wedding? He wore the uh Dolce Cabanas. Am I saying that right?

SPEAKER_05 27:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

Were those like thousand dollars?

SPEAKER_05 27:44

I think those were up in the upper area. Those things were like those sort of like street art. They were like graffiti shoes.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

He said they were very uncomfortable though, which is to be expected. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:58

Um paying for the label, baby. Anyway, that's a good it's a good episode. It's it's from October or something, I think.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

Yeah, I'll listen to the rest of it.

SPEAKER_05 28:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:05

We can talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 28:06

Listen to some Baylor Fleck and the Flecktones.

SPEAKER_05 28:08

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

That that album from 1989, Baila Fleck and the Flecktones.

SPEAKER_05 28:13

Cute. 1989?

SPEAKER_01 28:14

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 28:15

So when we went to see them in the 2000s, they were already quite well established.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Yeah, when did we see them? 2009. Five.

SPEAKER_05 28:22

Were we married?

SPEAKER_01 28:23

Yes. So five or six. We see them at Ohio Theater.

SPEAKER_05 28:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 28:27

Southern Southern Theater.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

Okay. They had so they remember the Sax player? It was there, Coffin? John is it John Coffin?

SPEAKER_05 28:34

I only remember.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

The guy played three saxophones at once.

SPEAKER_05 28:37

Oh. Oh. Yeah. I only remember Future Man, really.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

Yeah. So that's that's Victor Wooten's brother.

SPEAKER_05 28:45

I think it's uh Future Man is or the Saxophone.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

Future Man.

SPEAKER_05 28:49

I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 28:50

Yeah. They're they're brothers. Uh Victor Wooten is I mean, I think most bass players would call him like the greatest electric bass player, or at least top five, like Jocko Pastorius. Or yeah. Um I listened to some Jocopistorius, too, but that was more on the Mingus. That was he Jocko Willis. Joni Mitchell. Hang on, let me go back to Flick Tones in a second. Joni Mitchell did a whole album dedicated to Mingus, and he she actually wrote words to Goodbye Pork Piet. And it was actually really good. And he he like endorsed them and uh and like Herbie Hancock was on it, and Jocko Vistorius was playing bass. It was it was uh it was it was pretty sweet. Wayne Shorter was playing uh saxophone. Anyways, check it out. It's it was way better than I thought it was gonna be.

SPEAKER_05 29:36

Um It well, you'll have to go back like several minutes. Not that I hate Johnny Mitchell or anything. It it is.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

Oh yeah. Goodbye, pork by head. Okay, so back to the flexibility.

G Love, Concert Memories, And Listener Games

SPEAKER_05 29:45

Oh gosh, we are not still talking about this. Oh my gosh. Back to the flectones. I'm gonna fire myself. Back to the flecktones. Okay, we mean forward to the flectones.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

Well, we're going, we're moving forward, but we're looking back. We're walking backwards.

SPEAKER_05 29:59

We're informed. Our past is informing.

SPEAKER_01 30:01

We're walking left of cool.

SPEAKER_05 30:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

It's a flectones album. Okay. That's not the one I listened to, though. Sinister Minister. It's got uh Sunset Road on it. A lot of pretty so it's if you don't know there, you got a banjo player.

SPEAKER_05 30:17

I do know.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

He's just your ordinary banjo player. Uh Bayla Fleck. He's a virtual Woso of sorts. We saw him too. We saw him play with Edgar Meyer. Remember that?

SPEAKER_05 30:29

Mm-hmm. Was that the one you guys got yelled at? Or was that the one they'll have?

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Yeah, because we were like hooting and hollering for Bayla Fleck. He's like, uh for the Flectones fans out there, I really appreciate you guys coming out. Thank you. This is a little bit of a different venue.

SPEAKER_05 30:45

And I'm pretty sure I was giving the video. That might have been the original Death Crap.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

We like pregame before we went.

SPEAKER_05 30:52

And I I was like, guys, you were this is not the venue.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

You wanted to die.

SPEAKER_05 30:57

I did. I am dead.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

And he's like, and Leslie Shoecraft, you know better.

SPEAKER_05 31:04

I felt like he was saying that to me.

SPEAKER_01 31:10

Oh man. But yeah, if you check out the flectones, they are even I don't even know what to call them. I've heard them refer to referred to as blue bop, like a bluegrass b-bop kind of stuff. Because they're a fusion of like every genre you could ever have. Like the drum guitar alone is worth checking out. It's he plays drums with one hand and then plays an atar with the other hand. An atar. This button, this contraption he made, it's like a looks like a looks like a looks like a giant cue chord.

SPEAKER_05 31:46

Oh my gosh. Me and my cuckoo.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

Looks like somebody from it looks like if so what back what cue chords would look like in Back to the Future too. That's what it looks like.

SPEAKER_05 31:57

What's wrong with the dog?

SPEAKER_01 31:58

I don't know. Grober, you're really ticking me off.

SPEAKER_05 32:00

Groober, you need to lay down, buddy.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

We're trying to talk about dramatars, man. It's tough for me to remember all these names. Like uh. Anyways, enough flectones. Flectones are awesome. Um and uh I need to make you listen to a couple things sometimes so I could because I want to really want to say there's a song called Tell It to the Governor.

SPEAKER_05 32:21

Can you just send them to me and then right away?

SPEAKER_01 32:24

It sounds like a boss fight. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 32:25

I really want to hear the video game. Send me them and and then I'll listen and then I'll have more to say at this point.

SPEAKER_01 32:31

We're learning. We're learning. We're learning, and we're not gonna like how much stuff I send you.

SPEAKER_05 32:37

Well, it's I've been with you a while. I I know. I knew what this was. This is a pity podcast. I just doing it for you because I feel sorry for you.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

I appreciate that. Cooper, anything you want to say, buddy?

SPEAKER_05 32:50

Cooper? We our dog never does this, but he's like panicking or something.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

He's being really weird.

SPEAKER_05 32:56

He's scared of that rat.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

I I got a few more things I need to talk about.

SPEAKER_05 33:00

Uh okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

Watch Get Out.

SPEAKER_05 33:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

Do you want me to talk about that?

SPEAKER_05 33:04

I what am I gonna say? Is that the horror movie one?

SPEAKER_01 33:06

Yeah. Yeah, it's really awesome. Do you want me to spoil it?

SPEAKER_05 33:10

No.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

You want to watch it?

SPEAKER_05 33:11

For the uh folks at home.

SPEAKER_01 33:13

I would totally watch it with you.

SPEAKER_05 33:14

Would I be scared?

SPEAKER_01 33:15

Can I say that it ends first of all satisfactorily? Child doesn't die.

SPEAKER_05 33:21

Okay, no children are high to be making it this movie.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

It is extremely um I was thinking about Will it hurt my nervous system?

SPEAKER_05 33:32

Y Yes.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

I mean it's it's extremely disturbing. But it ends But it's so great. It ends satisfactory. It ends with in the in uh with satisfaction.

SPEAKER_05 33:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 33:44

Um we can talk about it, it's fine.

SPEAKER_01 33:47

So here's the thing. So like if you're watching something just overtly racist, like Django Unchained, what I mean is something with overt racism. Right, like that's the which by the way, Tarantino is so good at that, just giving you people to just objectively hate so you can watch them explode in wonderful ways. Um Slavers are no exception. So if I'm watching like Django, I'm again I'm gonna be talking about get out, but if I if I'm watching Django, I'm thinking no matter how bad this gets, I know that Tarantino is gonna give me something some great pay. Um he's gonna make it all better. Tarantino made slavery all better, right? Anyways, um, but I don't know Jordan, like all I know about Jordan Peele is that he's you know hilarious, right? And hilarious people are pretty freaking dark. Like, you remember all those like Tim and Eric Time stories and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 34:46

Uh Gallows humor.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

Yeah. So I'm like, I might is this gonna end like like a Rob Zombie movie or something where I'm just gonna like completely unsettled and you know but uh so the whole time I'm just like I don't know how this like there he does something. It's the kind I'm I will say this, because I know I don't want to spoil it for you. It's the kind of movie look kind of like the Sixth Sense, where if you're you can see all all the things that they're building up to, there's clues throughout the movie. Like it's very good. It's you know it's not no hand of God stuff.

SPEAKER_03 35:22

You know, it's all okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

It's um or what is that, Deus Ex Machina. Yes, anyways, you should check it out. I really liked it. It's got some cool music in it, although the misophonia kind of hit me a little bit. Yeah, this like Swahili, like shh, you know, I don't like the um like whispered stuff. Yeah. But uh I won't talk about too much more because you're gonna watch it and I'll watch it with you. We'll do a back-to-back uh double feature of Get Out and uh There Will Be Bloodfly. Oh Grave of Firefly. I'm almost done with Treasure of Sierra Madre, 1948 film with Humphrey Bogart.

SPEAKER_04 36:01

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

It's great so far. We'll see how it ends. Um Steve Cropper died. Do you know who that is? He's guitar player for uh he's one of the greatest American rock session players. Oh, there's that word again.

SPEAKER_05 36:18

Session musician.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

Session musician. He's a super session musician. He was with uh Booker T and the MGs. He died last week. Rest in peace. He was uh just a sick guitar just a great guitarist. 81, I think. I don't know how he died. But he um I listened to Death by a Firefly. I listened to a lot of his stuff for like a lot of like some like hip hugger from Booker T uh 6345789, Wilson Pickett. You know that one? Nope.

SPEAKER_05 36:50

I was thinking 8000.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

No, no. It's the lesser known of the uh it's not not Wilson Pickett was no Tommy Doo tone. That's for sure.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

That's uh 634578963.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

You know that's all? Okay, it's a good tone. Um, played for Sam and Dave, Otis Redding, Rufus Thomas, he was in Blues Brothers.

SPEAKER_05 37:18

What does Sam and Dave sing that I would know? Sounds very familiar.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Oh, Soul Man.

SPEAKER_05 37:23

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 37:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

So he uh he's just one of those players who just added You would love to sing with him. He would take care of all us. He will pay attention to what you are doing. He's like I wrote down just a lot of guitar players I like that aren't necessarily like him, but kind of have that quality where they're incredible guitar players who can solo and do all sorts of fancy stuff, but they really just create these beautiful licks, great tone, and they just always give you what the song needs. It's guys like Eddie Hazel, Johnny Marr, Albert Hammond, Keith Richards, Leo Belsantelli. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:04

Names I know.

SPEAKER_01 38:05

These are but the guys that are just you know like that. He's he's he's he's in. Some of those, some people might be like, dude, did you just compare uh the Strokes guitar player to all these legends? And I say, Yes, I did. I really like them a lot.

SPEAKER_05 38:19

You can't pet the dog because it thinks you become too far from the microphone. You literally just leaned over like four feet to pet the dog while you were talking.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

Hang on, just a second. Let me see if there's anything else. I want you to I want I want to see if there's anything else I need to say. Do you want to go back to there's something about Good Buy Pork Pie hat I forgot to say?

SPEAKER_05 38:37

Oh my god. Well, I'm just gonna say that a lot of my Instagram reels have been serving up 50 cents delight in his documentary uh sharing all the things about P. Diddy.

SPEAKER_01 38:51

So he back back up for a second. Did he did he produce it or did he put it together? Uh yes. Everything?

SPEAKER_05 38:57

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_01 38:57

So he's just a this is his.

Jazz Deep Dive And Joni’s Mingus

SPEAKER_05 38:59

He paid to have it done and he was an active participant in it, producing it. Um and so I started watching it. TV continued. TV continued. Yeah, that's why I stopped watching it, because I thought you might want to join me.

SPEAKER_01 39:16

Hmm. I just don't know when I'm gonna sit down and watch it with you. I only watch when I'm doing dishes and and on my bike. On my little bike.

SPEAKER_05 39:24

I thought you were gonna take a break from the bike. My bike, I want my bike. I thought you were gonna take a break from bikey.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

That's from the goodies. I'm gonna take a break from my bikey.

SPEAKER_05 39:33

You said you were.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

No, I said because remember I said I said I think I might have figured out why my knee.

SPEAKER_05 39:38

Oh, you think it's just from driving.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

I think it might have just been from driving. I hurt my knee driving.

SPEAKER_05 39:42

I wish I could tell, I wish I could stop driving.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

I I I would like to you you're talking about using the rower for a little while. Yeah, I would like to work that in. Yeah. Get back on the rower some more.

SPEAKER_05 39:52

See, you're usually down there with it.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

Honestly, one of the reasons I've I've been doing the bike so much is just so I can watch Treasures of Sierra Madre.

SPEAKER_05 39:59

Well, you need to get Yourself a little pork pie hat stand for the rower.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

I'm gonna get I need to get a pork pie hat.

SPEAKER_05 40:07

I can't believe Uncle Dan doesn't have a pork pie hat.

SPEAKER_01 40:09

How do we know he doesn't?

SPEAKER_05 40:10

Dan? Do you have a pork pie hat? I know you're listening. Yes, Daniel. Oh, I almost sang this one.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

So uh how much time do we have?

SPEAKER_05 40:24

For what? It's 5 47. I have no idea what time we started.

SPEAKER_01 40:28

I think we uh we uh 10 minutes. We've been talking for 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_05 40:34

We have not been talking for 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_01 40:36

Skyfall. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:38

Did you want to talk about anything else? No, that was all I wanted to say. Nothing. Let's see. I I'm I texted Caroline at 5.04 and said we are recording. And it's 5 48.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

Oh, we're doing AOT. We're halfway done. We're doing great.

SPEAKER_05 40:56

Because I texted her to that after we recorded our music. She didn't reply.

SPEAKER_01 40:59

I watched the guy playing the accordion.

SPEAKER_05 41:01

Did you think about what I said?

SPEAKER_02 41:03

Oh crap, you know what I did?

SPEAKER_05 41:04

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

We're gonna talk for 45 minutes about this.

SPEAKER_05 41:07

No, you're not.

SPEAKER_01 41:08

You'll you'll want to.

SPEAKER_05 41:10

What is it?

SPEAKER_01 41:11

I finished How's Moving Chouse.

SPEAKER_05 41:14

Okay, oh my gosh. Tell me if you liked it or not.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Let me, number one, uh, part of the correction corner is where I realize I need to enunciate a little bit more. I'm kind of a little sluggish with my speech sometimes.

SPEAKER_05 41:26

Say lure.

SPEAKER_01 41:30

Lure.

SPEAKER_05 41:30

There you go, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 41:32

That sounded like uh George Take.

unknown 41:34

Lure.

SPEAKER_01 41:36

He can definitely come to our uh concert.

SPEAKER_05 41:38

Any dead?

SPEAKER_01 41:39

Uh yeah, pretty sure. He could be the MC. Kitty Wells, they could split the split the duty.

SPEAKER_05 41:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 41:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 41:47

That's fair. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 41:51

Well, you have all these legends, Hendricks and Kirk Obain, and who's who's who's the MC? Oh, it's gonna be split between Kitty Wells and George Dick.

SPEAKER_05 42:03

I think that's the way to do it, though, you know? Yes, to each their own time, right?

SPEAKER_01 42:08

Absolutely. Okay. They can handle it.

SPEAKER_05 42:10

Tell me about Howells Moving Castle.

SPEAKER_01 42:13

Howells Moving Castle. Um not a bad book. Great book. Very well written. I let me can I let me just can I kind of just say some stuff. Sure.

SPEAKER_05 42:26

I'll look at the dog.

SPEAKER_01 42:27

Take it on a little meta perspective here. I'm trying to. Okay, so I got I got this is gonna sound weird, but I got some serious, like kind of night circus vibes to it. Where it's like I'm trying to figure out what you love, and I think you like like magic that's like like the magic is like a character itself, or like it's it like sets the mood. It's like it's like cozy whimsical fantasy, but it's like not about have we ever had a conversation about I know we've had a conversation about Star Wars versus Star Trek, where it's like the op the space opera versus the technology being.

SPEAKER_05 43:18

It's like yeah, right, of course.

SPEAKER_01 43:19

Yeah, it's kind of like that where I would like, you know, I like I wanted I wanted like Sophie So, first of all, Sophie is improved. I don't necessarily want to do a what's better about the movie in the book kind of thing, but everything in the book. I like Sophie better.

SPEAKER_05 43:36

In the book?

SPEAKER_01 43:37

Yeah, I love Ingray, is that what it's called? Their world, their magic world.

SPEAKER_05 43:41

Oh, yeah, I I don't remember, but okay.

SPEAKER_01 43:44

Let me back up again. I'm doing so much backing up. Can you imagine? Can you believe I'm so much?

SPEAKER_00 43:50

Look out, look out, look at it.

SPEAKER_01 43:52

Um if you were to say, hey Rob, there is this book I want you to read. It's awesome. I love it. I've read it twice, and it's about this graduate student who plays guitar. Well, he owns one. And he figured out a way. He lives he's from Wales, he figured out a way to do interdimensional travel. Number one, I would have been like, okay, yeah, what's the name of the book? But, anyways, interdimensional travel to this world where there's just ambient magic everywhere, and everyone kind of sort of knows it, and they just use it fluidly and they enchant things. And he rolls in there and he figures out how to put how to take really harness it, control of a fire demon. And by the way, there's demons everywhere that are kind of just watching both these worlds and all the dimensions, and he figures out how to move buildings and all the. I'd be like, that sounds like a most amazing book ever, but they don't really do anything.

SPEAKER_05 44:52

But remember when I said But remember when I was talking about how much I liked Howell? He's just so like quirky and weird, and he just has like I feel like his character in the book is just so much more interesting than the loser from the movie.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

I just wanted to see them do so much cool, cooler stuff. I wanted Sophie to be.

SPEAKER_05 45:11

You just didn't appreciate the people. That see, this sounds very this sounds very true to our personalities.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

I listen.

SPEAKER_05 45:20

Rob appreciates people. I didn't mean to stop the middle of that sentence.

SPEAKER_01 45:25

This is one of the things I want to say is the way that we is the is the way that we consume our media. If you when you when you're reading a book, you are all cozied up, you have like a a robe and a hoodie on and 18 blankets, and a dog is on top of you, and you're reading this and you're just taken away to this magical world. That is a really delightful place. It's it's great to read about.

SPEAKER_05 45:53

I said it's light.

SPEAKER_01 45:54

Yeah, it is. It's it is light. I don't mind light.

SPEAKER_05 45:57

I don't feel like I said anything that was gonna lead you to expect what it is that sounds like you want it.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

I know, but what I'm saying is I'm always like when I'm listening, first of all, I never read anything, so I'm always listening to stuff, and I'm always doing something else, and I'm always thinking about something else. So whatever I'm listening to, they have to be there has to be some something that just keeps it. A lot of murder. Like I wanted to see Sophie, like, I wanted there to be a chapter, which by the way, I like I love the way they describe what's gonna happen in the chapter, in the name of the chapter. I know. But I wanted Sophie to be like, you know, when she starts realizing she can like speak life into things, I wanted to like start doing that, start testing the range of it and like seeing, okay, well, how much how can I do it? And okay, if I say it this way, how does that affect this? And I want the I want you know, I want them to I want them to figure out somebody to take control of like the interdimensional I want you to write an essay on why it's okay.

SPEAKER_05 46:52

That that isn't what the story is about.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

It is okay.

SPEAKER_05 46:54

I know I want you to write a story about why it's okay.

SPEAKER_01 46:56

If I watched the movie was not that different from that in the respect of how calm and cool it was.

SPEAKER_05 47:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

I very much enjoyed it because I'm sitting down, I'm not doing anything else, but watching this, I'm super comfortable, just like you are all swaddled up. You know, that's fine. If I was a reader, I would probably enjoy this book because I would make you kind of make it part of your whole reading experience. Where I'm like, it's just not that interesting to me.

SPEAKER_05 47:24

What was it? What was it that um Garneth Paltrow and Chris Martin they consciously uncoupled? Is that what it was? And you said you wanted to try that. I think I'm ready. I appreciate that you read it and I love it.

SPEAKER_01 47:47

It it was uh there there were a lot of things I I did like uh like about it. Um it's just you know, I didn't really put too much in here.

SPEAKER_05 48:00

It's probably a borderline romance movie novel for you.

SPEAKER_01 48:03

Yeah. Yeah. That's okay. Yes. So it's like these sisters can swap likenesses and they can do but it's just like they're doing it to like find boyfriends. I'm just like, hey, this is such a waste of an incredible world and all these powers and stuff. It's just like they're just like altering clothes. What we can go through space-time, we can go to this world. I love like they thought they have the thing is like what's her name, Diane something when she went to the trouble of there's there's some bit of engineering of uh well, I need to read the second one. How you could take magic from from this Ingray place and bring it into the you know, quote unquote real world, but it's uh you know, our world, whales or whatever, but it has like some sort of like our world can kind of snuff it a bit, even though it still exists and can still function. Yeah. Like she's halfway there with for me. She's I'm like, yes, yes, please, this is great. You like she could be like a Brandon Sanderson or you know, but but she's happy.

SPEAKER_05 49:08

But she's happy.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

And she doesn't want to be a little bit more. She's not one of those session musicians who leaves her family. Because you don't like those books, do you?

SPEAKER_05 49:14

I do like those books. I'm not obsessed with them like you.

SPEAKER_01 49:16

Like I'm like, I would say I'm obsessed with them.

SPEAKER_05 49:18

Patrick Rothbust.

SPEAKER_01 49:20

He's gotta get his act together.

SPEAKER_05 49:21

When the heck is he gonna Are you listening, Patrick? Patrick.

Get Out, Old Films, And Session Legends

SPEAKER_01 49:25

He's like his one thing in life is that he just loves being the 14th listener of people's podcasts. He's uh yeah, we just lost him. Oh Patrick let's change it to change this to Patrick Rothbis, won't like it.

SPEAKER_05 49:43

Okay. Then he'll find it, and then we can change it back.

SPEAKER_01 49:46

Patrick, you can't come to our concert until you finish what's the name of it? The door, the something stone door. I used to know ten years ago when I when I gave up on him writing it.

SPEAKER_05 49:59

Poor Patrick. We can't write anything. We're making fun of him for not writing a third sweeping ek epic novel. We can't write anything. I don't feel we we're gonna talk about Skyfall today. So we have like no time left to talk about it, but we're gonna have to do that. We do have time. So we got into Skyfall. It's the James Bond of Daniel Craig, James Bond.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

Daniel Craig, I think. That's all I have in my notes.

SPEAKER_05 50:26

That's nice.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

Jeremy Wade in a tuxedo.

SPEAKER_05 50:30

He's way cuter than Jeremy Wade. But Jeremy Wade's cute. I'll take him too. Um they have a lot of character in their face.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

They do. Craig guitar. I I I put a uh before we get too far into this, um I put one of my notes was who's better at looking like I wrote something else, but who's better at looking like crap? Uh Daniel Craig or James Bond. Daniel Craig is James Bond or Bruce Willis is John McLean.

SPEAKER_05 51:01

Bruce Willis.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

I mean, yeah, I would say Bruce Willis is better at looking like crap. Daniel looking good looking good while looking like crap. While looking like crap. Daniel Craig is just.

SPEAKER_05 51:13

No, I I was saying the opposite. I prefer Daniel Craig looking like crap over Bruce Willis. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 51:18

I love Daniel Craig's.

SPEAKER_05 51:19

My favorite movie is Casino Royale. It's top three. I don't know what's more favorite than that. Maybe Singing in the Rain.

SPEAKER_01 51:26

Okay. Anyway, have you ever made a lot of I think I've somehow seen it twice.

SPEAKER_05 51:31

Oh, it's so good.

SPEAKER_01 51:32

It is good.

SPEAKER_05 51:33

Uh anyway. Uh so I was watching that while decorating the tree the other night. And we're like, well, we could do this one. And then we're like, well, I was like, oh, I've seen it so many times. And then you're like, we could do watch Skyfall again. I was like, great idea. So we did. And what was the one that came after Skyfall?

SPEAKER_01 51:52

Oh crap. Qua no, Quantum Souls. No, that was between. That was the one that you could Spectre?

SPEAKER_05 51:58

That's a lot.

SPEAKER_01 51:59

I think it was Spectre.

SPEAKER_05 52:00

Okay. Anyway, Quantum Souls was terrible. It wasn't terrible, but it was nothing. It was nothing like Casino Royale.

SPEAKER_01 52:07

Skyfall was definitely better of better than uh than quantum. Yeah, I'm with you. I think Casino Royale might be a better movie. Skyfall is extremely entertaining.

SPEAKER_05 52:16

The thing I love about, I don't know, and this is I probably shouldn't even be talking about Sky any James Bond at all. But are all James Bonds in chapters the way that these Daniel Craig ones are? Where there's like 40 things that happen before the main thing happens. And they're all like these epic stories of their own. I love that so much.

SPEAKER_01 52:40

Honestly, I'm not a big You're not a James Bond. I'm not a huge column. James Band. I'm not a huge Bond guy. I don't honestly, I'm probably I haven't seen all the Bonds. I'll just say that. Like I've seen a handful of Brooks Connery and I've got to be a good thing. Sean Connery and my dad watched some of those. They're fun. They're a lot of fun. Like if if they were on like TNT or something.

SPEAKER_05 53:04

I remember was one of them called Octopusy?

SPEAKER_01 53:07

Yeah. Well that was uh the name of a uh What was the movie called that? Was it?

SPEAKER_05 53:11

Well I just remember it coming up on the screen and I was little and I remember thinking, should I be embarrassed?

SPEAKER_01 53:16

Then probably. Should I be embarrassed? No, I'm thinking of uh never mind. No, no, no, no, no, it's fine. It's James Bond.

SPEAKER_05 53:25

Alright, so do you want me to give a quick synopsis?

SPEAKER_01 53:29

Yeah, do it. Can you?

SPEAKER_05 53:31

I think so. Okay. Okay, so it opens, he's in the field, something got something important got stolen. It's like a list of um secret operatives all world around, and there's a hard drive. Some someone the dog just tripped over the cord. Is it all still plugged in?

SPEAKER_01 53:50

Oh my gosh. I'm gonna kill it.

SPEAKER_05 53:53

I think it's okay. Keep talking. Uh anyway, for some reason, someone somewhere thought it was a great idea to write all the names of people working undercover on one on on one list in a hard drive.

SPEAKER_01 54:04

Yeah, that's really smart.

SPEAKER_05 54:05

We'll go back to that.

SPEAKER_01 54:05

So that's we need to come back to that because uh this if you knew jujitsu, this whole thing would have been prevented. I'll I'll elaborate later.

SPEAKER_05 54:13

All James Bond actors. Does your buddy know we say that?

SPEAKER_01 54:19

Carlos?

SPEAKER_05 54:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:21

I don't think so. I don't think so. But uh I'll get him to listen to this.

SPEAKER_05 54:25

Okay. He has to listen to this one. So anyway, that's what happens right at the beginning. So he's like in the field and he's chasing after the person that stole the hard drive. And it essentially ends with him falling off of a train. I won't go in. Should I go into details?

SPEAKER_01 54:38

No. Well, you said we don't have enough time.

SPEAKER_05 54:40

Well, I just was thinking about spoiler details. So then he basically goes dark and is off the grid, presumably. Let's give spoilers. Okay, we're giving spoilers. His his co-fieldsman shoots him accidentally and he falls off a train. Money penny. Yeah. But we don't know that's who it is until the end. I mean, so anyway, he's presumed dead, goes off grid. They know they don't hear anything from him for how long? Year? Months?

SPEAKER_01 55:04

I think let's let's call it a year.

SPEAKER_05 55:06

Okay, let's just say it's a year. And in the meantime, Judy Dench. Can I comment on that? Yes, please.

SPEAKER_01 55:14

Um, how did they not find him? He's like in a bar with a scorpion on his hand. The entire bar, probably the whole town is there, cheering him on, watching him drink.

SPEAKER_05 55:26

I want to know how he got somewhere tropical islands.

SPEAKER_01 55:28

And they're like, You should have stayed dead.

SPEAKER_05 55:31

She was in Turkey. How'd he get to some tropical island? I'm not gonna embarrass myself with uh with I Okay, well, I mean, I'm sure Turkey is near an ocean, but like it's Middle Eastern, but or it's Eastern European, but um they were like in Bali or something. Bali. Where were they actually? No, it didn't say if it did, I didn't. Were they in Bali?

SPEAKER_01 55:52

Bali? Bali, Bully, Bully?

SPEAKER_05 55:55

They didn't appear to be anywhere near Turkey.

SPEAKER_01 55:58

All right.

SPEAKER_05 55:58

So anyway.

SPEAKER_01 55:59

But seriously though, in the meantime. How come they didn't find how that's stupid.

SPEAKER_05 56:03

Maybe they I pres I think maybe they weren't looking for him because uh they wanted him to be a ghost.

SPEAKER_01 56:14

Oh, like they're just it was um It was uh tactical quality or something.

SPEAKER_05 56:19

Tactical.

SPEAKER_01 56:19

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_05 56:19

So he could do stuff. And that's why I was when I first saw that I remember being surprised again at the same thing, thinking, why didn't he just stay undercover? Because okay, so anyway, so what happens is he comes in the meantime they call Emmin for questioning because she's running a you know rag tag.

SPEAKER_01 56:38

Sweet sweet uh dame Judy Dentch.

SPEAKER_05 56:40

Yep. My phone kept changing it to Just Drench. So that's what I'm calling her now.

SPEAKER_01 56:45

That's what she used to go by in the 60s.

SPEAKER_05 56:47

Just Drench.

SPEAKER_01 56:49

I did say she's I don't know why.

SPEAKER_05 56:50

I did say she's old Lady Goles. If I look at anything like Judy Dentch when I'm old, she's yeah, I'll take it. If I can um if you could like an old lady.

SPEAKER_01 56:57

If I can give stern talkings talk talkings to like Judy Dynch when I'm old, I'll be happy. I'll be happy.

SPEAKER_05 57:03

You aren't trying to get with Judy Dentch.

SPEAKER_01 57:05

When when I'm when I'm her age?

SPEAKER_05 57:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:08

Not not unless it's at our concert. And you give me the okay.

SPEAKER_05 57:11

Did she die in real life, didn't she?

SPEAKER_01 57:13

I think she's still alive.

SPEAKER_05 57:14

Uh-oh, you better look it up. I'll look it up.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

Keep going.

SPEAKER_05 57:16

So anyway, she's getting called to the carpet because of her mishandling of certain situations. And then uh some terrorist blows up MI6.

SPEAKER_01 57:25

91.

SPEAKER_05 57:26

Dang she's gonna go. Is her birthday? Today's her birthday?

SPEAKER_01 57:29

Judy, Dad! That's so Guess what, Judy, today and today only. Uh this is a this is my my birthday gift to you. If we figure out resurrection on demand by the end of the day, you can come to our concert alive.

SPEAKER_05 57:44

By the end of the day.

SPEAKER_01 57:44

If you die, you can come anytime you want.

SPEAKER_05 57:46

As a ghost or crack.

SPEAKER_02 57:49

No pressure.

SPEAKER_05 57:50

Anyway, somebody blows up, Terrace blows up MI6. James Bond sees it on the TV at the local scorpion bar where he's hanging out, taking shots with scorpions. That was a bit of a gratuitous scene, I feel like.

SPEAKER_01 58:03

It's ridiculous. Although I did the whole time I was thinking, like, can I do that? I think I could do that.

SPEAKER_05 58:06

And you think it's interesting, there's almost no romance in that one.

SPEAKER_01 58:09

Yeah, there's no. He like almost hooks up with Money Penny.

SPEAKER_05 58:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:12

But like he like kind of goes for it. She's like, nah. But she's Yeah, she's she's not sticks around. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 58:20

She's a strong woman. Anyway, so he comes back in from his presumed death, and then they put him through a bunch of testing, and he's like, all off his game. He's addicted to pills and alcohol.

SPEAKER_01 58:34

We're talking this movie talking about this movie like we hated it.

SPEAKER_05 58:37

I loved everything. I loved it all.

SPEAKER_01 58:38

I did too. It's great for like That's what we do. It is fun.

SPEAKER_05 58:43

If you don't like it, you're in the right place. Um and he fails all of his tests, but Judy Dentch M. We can just call her M. We don't have to say four syllables.

SPEAKER_00 58:53

I think we have to say Dame Day M Dame M. Day M. Just Drench. Just um Just Drench off.

SPEAKER_01 59:06

Day M. Just Drench. Shut up, okay. Every time you say your name. And I've what we're gonna be.

SPEAKER_05 59:15

She just has a real soft spot in her heart for James Bond, so she s lies and says that he passes everything and he's ready to get back in the field. So they put him back in the field to go after the hard drive, which is still missing. And then he ends up when does he hook up with Javier?

SPEAKER_01 59:33

Like hook like hook, they almost did hook up.

SPEAKER_05 59:35

Right. Well, when do they like meet up?

SPEAKER_01 59:37

So they go to that abandoned uh island. He he's with he's with the uh the the woman he meets in the casino when he gives the code and yeah, there's like that whole scene in Shanghai where is it in Shanghai where he shoots some of his shot?

SPEAKER_05 59:53

So there's just a bunch of James Bondy act antics.

SPEAKER_01 59:56

The lighting in this movie was great. Like the lighting and all the shadow work. Work of use of shadows when they were when they were fighting up in that skyscraper.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:03

Yeah, that was cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:04

That was really cool.

Skyfall Breakdown: Plot, Themes, Set Pieces

SPEAKER_05 1:00:05

I was having trouble like depth perception, which I think was the thing. Imagine how they felt. Oh my gosh. They're about to fall out of a skyscraper. So anyway, so all these little James Bond antics leads him to figuring out who the James Bond antics. Who the bad guy is, and he actually catches the bad guy. And like that is basically now we can start the movie. And that's how like all the Daniel Craig ones are. And that I love that.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:30

When old Javier shows up with uh talking about rats eating each other.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:35

We need to we need to eat a couple of those in our.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:38

I do.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:38

We found a rat about the size of my foot in the front yard.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:41

We think Ruber ate it. I mean killed it.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:44

Did you where'd you put it?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:46

I just chucked it in the woods. Oh, okay. Put it in the salt, the big thing of salt.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:52

Outside the assisted living. But butch butch was like, it's where he keeps the bodies.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:58

It's the second time I've said that. And I think I'd said that in the last episode.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:03

That's good. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:04

We say that I say that twice every 20 episodes. So I'm not not again for a long time. Continue.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:15

So then the movie starts, they get this guy in custody, and he's in like a silence of the lambs style glass case.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:21

Do those exist? I meant to work that up.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:23

I never saw one in my work that I've done.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:25

That's true. I would know. You would know. I almost said somebody. Never mind.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:31

So um then that guy escapes, of course. How? Oh, it's pre- it was all pre-programmed. He's a hacker. And once they start hacking his hacking, then that he's hacking and whacking its back. That triggers that triggers all the um sewer things to open, including his door, his glass case door.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:55

I guess so.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:56

Anyway, he gets out, so then James Bond has to chase him down. And then I finally end up finally at Skyfall, which is the name of the property where James Bond was born and his parents died.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:10

And with what what's the dude's name?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:13

Atticus? Is that right?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:14

Is it Anticus? Is it Antica? I thought it started with a C. It was like a Cornelius or something. Hang on.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:21

Yeah, you're gonna look it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:23

So he takes M to protect her from the guy. Because it turns out that the bad guy is a an old double O, right? Was he a double O or just an irregular agent?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:31

Yeah, he was. He was uh he went bad. Yes. Kincaid. Kincaid. Kincaid.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:36

Yeah. We were both wrong.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:38

Yeah, Albert Finney.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:40

Anyway, so he he's gotta get her somewhere where he can, you know, protect her, but also somehow put her in the line of fire. I don't really understand why why they wouldn't just lay a trail for him to go somewhere else where someone else could kill him. And and then J and then Judy Dench just. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:02

And that whole thing, like along those lines with the helicopter, I think he just wanted to challenge.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:07

James Bond?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:08

I think he pre- I bet he had little Scorpion tied to his hands the whole time, too.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:12

He was That's what she says in the Concito Royale. You'll have to take the next one. There's not another one.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:17

They didn't have to take that shot at the helicopter. They could have just let him land and then sort of get different positions. Yeah. I mean, they had all those explosives. Yeah. Where'd they get all those gas canisters? What was in that? What was that place?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:28

Why did the whole house blow up so spectacular?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:31

Why did Kincaid not know that that was a shotgun and not your dad's old hunting rifle? And he's like talking crap about how tough he is the whole time. He doesn't even know what the difference is like.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:40

Well, don't worry about it. I don't know the difference between a plane and a helicopter. So so anyway, we watched it. It was wonderful. Can I say what happens if you can? Can I say the ending part? Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna spoil the ending. Judy Dench dies. M.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:02

Which seems like a huge waste. The whole movie led up to that moment.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:09

I'll tell you what's a waste. It's a bigger spoiler, but I'm not gonna Okay. You know what I'm saying? No. Oh. As far as never mind.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:18

Okay. So anyway, uh some things I liked. Here's some notes I had.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:26

Um well Ralph, old Ralphie uh Raf Ray Feines.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:31

You mean Voldemort.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:32

Rafey line, Rafe Line Finds.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:34

You mean Voldemort?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:36

Yeah, Voldemort.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:38

You don't mean the other thing that you said.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:40

No, I mean the Quishow, the Quisho uh champion. Rafe Feines. Yeah, he's great in Bruce. He was awesome in Bruges, he cracked me up.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:48

Well he's also great in that movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:51

He is. He's great in everything.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:52

I was I was suspicious of him. I wondered if he was bad. I couldn't remember.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:55

I couldn't either. I was like, is he like a John Voyd and Mission Apollo? Or just kidding. I'm not spoiling that. I'm probably wrong anymore.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:03

Alright, so some things I liked.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:05

Go.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:05

I loved it when they were chasing each other on mopeds on the roofs.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:10

That was cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:11

It was silly, but I I mean were they mopeds or were they bikes like bike motorbikes?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:16

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:16

Anyway. Yeah. This is gonna be also about Casino Royale.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:26

Have you ever seen District 13?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:27

Yeah. With you.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:28

No, you haven't. That's District 9.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:30

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:30

Or something District B 13. It's a basically a parkour action movie in French. It's freaking sweet.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:38

Nope. Okay. And then I had to say, there's always a train.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:44

There's always a train.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:45

Yeah. They like their trains.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:47

Uh-huh. Always a train.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:48

You know what? They also like the concrete. There's a lot of concrete in this movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:53

What's that mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:54

Like concrete structures. Like that whole city was just this massive structure.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:59

The abandoned island one?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:00

Yeah. Or like when they when MI6 got blown up and they moved down to this like old parking garage essentially.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:08

That's true. And then I love love, love, love in all these Daniel Craig movies, and maybe this is why they did it because they're from all the old movies, but the long intro with an entire four or five minute song and just way things fall into other things and turn into other things. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:25

It's a lot so much very house moving castle vibes. Ian Fleming was a huge house moving castle fan.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:32

Um Diane Wynn fan. But yeah, so that's some things I like.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:37

Did you did you like the Adele song?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:39

Yeah, I like the Adele song, but not as much as the Chris Cornell song.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:43

Do you have any other but any other Bond songs you're just dying to talk about?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:51

Those are the only two I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:53

What about Live and Let Die? Paul McCartney. Your boy Axl Rose. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:59

Oh, I was not aware that was a Bond song.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:02

That's a good song.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:03

It is a good song. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:05

Um It it reminds me when he goes, you know, dark and then he's all racked up. And it reminds me of like the rid the Batman origins, where it's like the these these James Bonds, the Daniel Craig ones, are less campy and more realistic.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:26

You're talking about the cr well, I guess you could apply that to Chris Christian Bale or Robert Pattinson.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:32

Robert Pattinson's even a little bit more grisly.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:35

Um, which I love.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:37

I like that, but I'm sure but they do.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:39

No, you're totally right. I love it. I know exactly what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:41

They have plenty of uh fan service.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:45

To the old stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:46

For sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:47

Do you have anything to say?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:47

Yeah, what did you think about uh Q or yeah, Q.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:52

Yeah, I kept wanting him to be Moss from the IT crowd.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:56

I wrote down I kept wanting him to be Moss. I literally wanted him to be Moss. He looked so much like him. And if he was j if not the actor, but if he if he if it was just Moss. I wrote down I wanted it to be Moss or Abed or both of them.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:11

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:12

And I wanted them to just follow him around the whole time.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:14

Uh-huh. And just like always be like looking down and looking back up. Um I wouldn't want to I wanted to know if you think James Bond has any STDs.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:24

It felt the same thing. I didn't have it written down, but yeah, absolutely. So he's just that or he's on maybe he probably gets fantastic drugs.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:32

You mean like like uh from pharmaceutical like antibiotics?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:36

Sorry. Um sorry.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:39

Mad M. No, don't.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:44

Mad M.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:46

Ah no. Oh what'd you call it?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:50

Just drenched. Uh uh. We're missing something. I don't know. That sounds too short.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:59

So you think he's clean because he gets cleaned up.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:03

Oh man. Yeah, there's Yeah. And crawling.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:07

On the on the topic of STDs, I love how like everything is this huge time rush emergency except for whenever he decides he's gonna stop for a little romance snack. And then it's like we have all night long, like we have all this time, but like we're on the way to do the most urgent thing that's ever happened.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:25

Or just get completely sl sloshed.

unknown 1:09:28

You know, stupid.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:31

He's awesome though.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:32

Or like that he drinks, is that what you mean? Like he's always drinking while he's working.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:35

Yeah, I like the I like the uh Komodo dragon.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:38

Yeah, that was creepy.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:40

Are they can they really can they I mean I know they can they can move when they want to, but do you think they could really do that to a guy?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:47

I think that isn't there isn't there um what makes them so deadly, the awful bacteria.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:54

I thought they kind of just tagged in, just waited for you to die, followed you around for a while.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:57

But maybe those ones were starving.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:59

Oh. They were pretty big.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:01

I think they're really that big. Um look like dinosaurs. I thought they were dinosaurs.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:07

Oh my gosh. You know, in Treasurer of Sierra Madre, there's a gila monster. I saw a gila monster in a Komodo Dragon in the same day. In the same day. What? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:18

Um not kidding. I love Javier Bardem. He's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:22

He has a real serial killer vibe.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:24

Yeah, I would love to see him play the Joker.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:27

Mmm, he'd be a good joker.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:29

I feel like he'd be great.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:30

He's very unhinged. Um, and then the last couple things I wrote were James Bond meets Home Alone.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:39

Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:40

Like the last scene in the book. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:43

It's it's got that, like, that or Rambo or have you ever seen you haven't seen uh Okay. Have you seen either First or Last Blood Rambo movies?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:53

We saw some together. The la last Did we see one in the theater? It was like a new Rambo.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:00

You know what? I think we might have seen the fourth one. I think it's just called I think it's just called Rambo.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:04

Is it called Rambi? Bambi's brother.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:06

It's the one where he goes to uh Cambodia, maybe, and uh Dexter's uh wife is in it. One that Rambi? Rambi. Yeah. I like I like that movie. I thought it was awesome. He he it the it in Last Blood. Okay, Last Blood is not a good movie. A lot of people consider it to be a terrible Rambo movie. But the last 15 minutes of Last Blood are the best Rambo movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:35

Are they like this with all kinds of um It's like this goryist?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:40

Yes, it's just this nightmare trap. Rambo lures all these movie traps in. And I'm gonna ruin it a little bit, but he lures all these dudes back to this ranch that he owns.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:50

Yes. This seems familiar. He's got these traps.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:52

I may have I made I probably had you and Clark watch it or something. But me and Clark. Well, I could see I feel like I remember doing that. Like, hey, like what like you guys need to watch this. This is sweet. And there's all these cabinets.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:05

Maybe you made us watch it when they uh when we got our new sound system.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:08

That might have been that. He literally cuts a dude's heart out and like has it in front of his face because he told him he would. Anyways, it's sweet.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:18

Um But yeah, that's what they do to his his childhood home.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:22

Skyfall.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:22

Skyfall. And they have some pretty great I like the the nails and the lights.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:30

She turns the lights on and explodes shrapnel everywhere. Classic. I've never seen that done before.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:36

I've seen plenty of nail bombs.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:38

And lights like that though?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:40

Um, I have seen it before. I cannot remember when. I know someone else has done that.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:44

And the car shooting out of the headlights.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:50

I I love a good how do they I love a good car that has a brick in it. And of course it's him, but how'd he get that car? I mean, I realize it's a car.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:58

It was his dad's car.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:59

Oh, that's who it was.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:00

It has initials on it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:02

Okay, got it. You're you're quick.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:04

Thank you. And um this is shouldn't be news team.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:08

Oh, I know. I just didn't agree. We're so deep on Bond Aston Martin hand me downs.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:12

I wouldn't have if I wasn't being preparing to talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:16

I you're professional is what it is. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:19

I don't like to fail. I failed miserably at work today. I don't think I told you about that. I made someone very mad at me and I ended up just leaving instead of trying to do any more music with them. And then the last thing the very last thing I wrote was a flashlight come on.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:36

Yeah, when she's walking to the to the When Atticus She's showing all the Kincaid.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:42

Kincaid is trying to save her, and she's already shot and bleeding to death. And they're walking out on the moors of Scotland in pitch black. They would never they would have made it beautifully safely. And they're using a flashlight. And Javiar, Caviar runs up and gets him. He knows where they're going.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:02

Yeah. I like that little flying kick though that Bond had on his way to catch him.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:06

How did he do that?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:08

Well, he just He's James Bond. It looked a lot it looked like a lot of fun. But he just knocked the guy out. He should have shot him in the face. I don't know why they don't do that. I don't either. He would know. You'd think.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:18

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:19

Um I want to give a little shout out to Rory Kinnear. Uh Baby BM is what we were calling him. Oh, uh We called him Baby M because he's like M's assistant and you called him BM. Baby BM.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:29

Oh yeah, he's good.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:31

He is good. I like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:32

I like how they don't worry anything about his hairline or the back of his head. He's like the only person in there that looks British.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:40

They're like baby BM, it's makeup to makeup and hair. He's like, don't worry about it, guys.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:44

And don't worry about my teeth or anything like that anymore.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:47

Don't just say that about Baby BM. I like the one guy who had like every magazine possible for his Glock. Well you asked me in the beginning what kind of gun is that? Oh yeah. They have that big drum mag on drum magazine or something.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:00

It looked like a handgun, but also a mixture.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:01

But then he's got a giant stick one, and then he's got the smaller ones, and he's got He's a professional. Yeah, they do make a lot of magazines for Glocks. They didn't get that part right.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:08

He did have one.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:09

So can I can I tell you real quick on how this whole fiasco could have ended pretty darn quickly?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:14

Yes, please do. All right, so is this alternate ending?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:18

Well, this is why the this is why uh they need to have a better combatives program in MI6 and the double and the double O uh unit.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:29

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:31

He he's got the the guy who ends up stealing the codes, which leads to all of this crap. This is when you say get your hooks in the hook in. Yes.

unknown 1:15:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:40

Listen, Theo, you're on it. Alright, so he how many times have you heard me say get your hooks in?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:49

I can never hear it enough. I hope to hear it a million more.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:53

So he's got basically back melt on this guy. He's trying to choke him out with a chain.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:00

Rob does jujitsu guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:01

It's been it's been a it's been a while, but I did did it for ten years, and I'll I'm sure I'll get back into it.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:06

You're doing child jujitsu guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:07

Yeah, I'm helping with kids class. But so he's got this guy's back, and he's got him locked up, but the dude rolls out of it because he didn't he had ten seconds to put his hooks in.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:19

If you guys if you have somebody's back, you better get your feet in front. Don't cross your feet. That guy knows anchored. Grapevine. Um Grapevine? Yeah, grapevine's a thing, but that's different things. It could apply here, but that's a that's a long conversation.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:35

Sorry. Yeah. That's for another episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:37

But if he had he done he would have gotten his hooks in, he would have choked him out, no problem, no question.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:41

But then, but then how would we have found Javier?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:46

So that's that I I kind of continued on that line. I think Javier would have would have made himself known in another another dramatic way at some point.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:56

But anyway, I loved it. I loved that we laid down in the middle of a day on Saturday and watched it.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:03

That was nice. That was awesome.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:04

And then we got up and went out to dinner. I felt like we were college people again.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:08

We spoiled ourselves that day.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:10

We did.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:11

That's because someone else had our child at top golf. I'd say it'd be probably a And our other child can drive itself around.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:17

Probably be a cold day in July before that happens again.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:20

Oh. Mic drop.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:24

Don't you dare drop this mic. It's kind of expensive. Actually, have you seen how expensive mics can get?

Bond Tactics, Q Dreams, And Home Alone Traps

SPEAKER_05 1:17:29

I don't want to talk about that.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:30

Very expensive.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:31

I bet. I'm sure anything in the world could get very expensive.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:34

Yes, you're right. Water. Grocery bills. Fancy pants water.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:38

Have you seen our new water filter?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:40

Oh, but consumption corner, we got a Boro water filter. B-R B-O-R-O-U-X.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:46

Glad you can spell it.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:47

Yeah. Well, I've been typing it into my browser.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:49

I do like it so far.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:50

I love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:50

Yeah, it's cool. You want to talk about the song?

SPEAKER_05 1:17:53

I do. So our cover today is a Dixie Chicks, but they all they just go by the Chicks now.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:00

So it's a The Chicks song. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:03

When did they drop Dixie?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:05

2003. I looked it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:08

Do you know why?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:09

More or less. I mean a.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:11

So that they wouldn't have an association with the values of the South.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:16

Yeah. Yeah. We could get into that. Yeah. I have no problem with somebody who sincerely does not want to associate with the horrors of the B.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:29

But the reason that they got they had they had a they had a controversy is because they were in another country and they did a concert and they said they were embarrassed that George Bush was from Texas. And then everyone in America blacklisted them off the radio and they wouldn't play their music. I don't remember. Time magazine. I don't know. I don't know why I said that. I don't know why I said that. Strike it from the record.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:52

Yeah, the whole thing about like I and I on the flip on the flip side, I have no problem singing Dixie. It's a great song, you know. But I'm not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:59

Well, it is a region, but I I you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:02

Well, it come I think it comes from uh Yeah, I'm not you know what? I said I wasn't going to.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:10

Anyway, I do like uh not the song we did, but the song they did on an album after they had became the chicks. They had a song called Not Ready to Make Nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:18

I'm not ready to make nice, I'm not ready to back down, I'm still mad as hell, and I don't know time to go round and round and round.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:27

It's a pretty good song. The lyrics are good. I used to use it a lot at work for lyric analysis when we would talk about anger.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:35

Was that in the uh mental Yes, in the psychiatric hospital? You don't you don't say mental hospital, do you?

SPEAKER_05 1:19:42

It's pretty antiquated.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:44

Like Dixie. Yeah. With mental hospital chicks. When are they gonna drop chicks? When's that gonna drop?

SPEAKER_05 1:19:53

They haven't done anything since twenty twenty.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:56

Oh really?

SPEAKER_05 1:19:57

That's according to the interwebs. Oh Um, but with song we chose was called is called Cold Day in July.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:06

What what song did we almost pick? We almost picked two other songs. There's your trouble. And what was the first one? We couldn't find any chords of it.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:15

There's your trouble was the one I wanted to do first.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:17

No, it wasn't.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:18

Yeah, There's Your Trouble. There's Your Trouble.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:20

I'm gonna tell you what your first No.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:23

Oh, if I fall you're going down with me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:27

Those two songs are good. And then we we landed on uh I like There's Your Trouble.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:31

Actually, I like I I've liked all three of these songs.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:33

Yeah. Tell me how you feel about it, because you're not you're not into them, so tell me about it. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:37

Thoughts? Um there it was so first of all, I I also watched a lot of Dixie Chick stuff. Not a lot of Dixie Chick. I mean like sorry chick stuff. I don't care. Whatever. Um I watched them on I do sorry, I do care. Watched a couple live. So I I was trying to figure out like how I could see them as uh musicians. Like I know that vocalists are musicians as well, but they are musicians, so they played in so I saw some shows that were some clips of shows that where they were kind of showcasing their abilities. They're fantastic.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:12

Yeah, like fiddle and mandolin.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:14

Yeah, and uh Dobro.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:16

Um yeah, I think that was I mean guitar. I'm I'm sure that's the case.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:21

So like their front front person, Natalie let me see what her Natalie Maines.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:25

Natalie Maines, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:27

She was not an original member of the group.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:29

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 1:21:29

I did not know that. The two that are that she's with are sisters, and they had two other people, and those two people left, and then Natalie Maines joined them, and then that's pretty much how they became Oh, okay. She does a lot of their songwriting and or did a lot of their songwriting, and she's their lead.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:45

She's the one that's always in the middle.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:47

She's the shortest one, I think. Okay. Does she play the fiddle? She's a middle fiddle.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:52

The one playing the fiddle, no, she wasn't the one playing the fiddle in the like I saw what Travelin' Soldier. Have you heard that song?

SPEAKER_05 1:21:58

Yeah, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:59

Um that the the live version they did was great, too. That's the only one. The only one I've ever seen. But they, you know, had a lot of instrumental breaks, which I loved. But the tall, I want to say uh they're all kind of they're all blondes, aren't they?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:12

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:12

Well, the one on the right was playing the fiddle.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:15

Okay, it looks like Natalie just sings, actually.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:17

She was playing a guitar. I don't know if she was playing it, but she was holding one.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:21

No, she could probably do what I can do.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:23

She went through the trouble of capoing it, so Oh, that's that's worth the trouble. Yeah. Well, here's your trouble.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:30

Here's your trouble.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:31

Whatever she puts her cape on, that's what she says.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:32

So anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:34

She farts a lot too.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:36

Does she?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:37

I think so. Did you know that the song wasn't uh did you know this they did not do this song originally?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:44

Well, I didn't know that, but remember we it was the guy that also wrote um R uh a brown eyes uh Don't Make Your Brown Eyes Blue. Don't make my brown eyes blue.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:55

Yeah. What's his name?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:57

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:58

Uh keep talking, I'll look it up.

unknown 1:23:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:01

Uh anyway, I've loved them. I never really listened to them until I was um it was by Richard Lee.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:09

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:10

In college, and my friend Elena and Megan, we did a we did a we did I Can Love You Better Than That. One of their songs. And they have we had our hands out like Paul. Snick snake snake. And there was a a friend named Phil and he played the guitar for us. And he played the You never met. I don't know if I know Phil. I'm just sitting here trying to carry a torch for Elena for a while.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:35

I have met a Phil.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:38

They had gone to his own. I don't think I know him. I don't remember him being a. Um, and that was my first exposure to the Dixie Chicks. Love, love their harmonies.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:54

Pretty. The uh Dobro their Dobro so they have a Dobro player, you know. Uh hang on. Uh I will Emily Strayer, I think, is the one who plays the Dobro. Okay. Um but on the album, Jerry Douglas plays the Dobro. Okay. So I went down at some pretty serious Dobro Jerry Douglas rapper.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:14

Dobro Holes.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:16

He's playing, uh I listened to him playing a couple Dobro holes. I said hey, I just closed my mouth. Curtis Lowe double du Dobro Holes. Um he uh he was playing with uh do you know John Hyatt? I figured you would. He's he I've he's you're kind of like kind of Raw songwriter, kind of but they had some good stuff here. I'm a Raw songwriter.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:45

I'm a songwriter. Well, what are you for for Halloween? Google, it's okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:50

We scared Google. You better come in here, guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:55

It's Christmas time, after all.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:56

Oh yes. Scary ghost stories.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:00

Okay. Oh no, Joe Joylyn White. Joylyn White. Joylyn White was the person who did it. Richard Lee or whatever wrote it. I guess wrote it and she did it first. I think she did it first. But that she did it in '92. So she did this like what six years before.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:19

Yeah, this is from like 99, I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:21

But you you should I think you might like her voice. She's got a little bit of that Iris Dement kind of Oh, I love Iris Dement.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:26

Like shaky kind of vibrato-y.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:29

Vibrato-e. It's like a warmer version of her. But anyways, this Jerry Douglas guy is a monster on the Doughro.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:36

All right.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:37

And I listened to him play with uh our boy Edgar Meyer.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:42

Oh, we've talked about him already today.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:44

Yeah. Um do you want to talk about him some more?

SPEAKER_05 1:25:47

No, unless you have more to say about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:49

I I thought I wrote the album down that that it was on. It was him and I can't remember the guitar player.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:53

Douglas.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:54

It's a great, I'm gonna revisit that album. I'll I'll talk about it next week.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:57

Okay, I bet you will.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:01

What else about this song? What uh tell us about it.

unknown 1:26:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:07

Do you know where that is?

SPEAKER_05 1:26:08

Where it is?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:09

Is it the well I know there's an E minor seven. It's not even close to the same.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:15

I didn't say minor. You said it has a flat seven.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:18

F.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:19

It's the F. Yes. You did it. You're finally learning. So I guess it's mixolydian.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:25

And every time I would I would try to play that, you would say.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:32

No, that wasn't the one. The C is the one you meant that I wanted you to get a bit of a.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:37

No, no, no, no, no. That's when I w that's why I was missing. That's why I wasn't coming in. On the F. Cause it'd be like, because it'd go.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:48

But I would I would I would be playing like um. Kind of like uh almost like a mixoline sound over that, and you were but you were singing a different melody.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:04

Oh yes, we had a fight.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:05

You're like, you're you're yeah, you're we had a fight.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:07

Guys, we had a fight.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:08

The guitar player will play, will know what the person's singing, they won't be able to do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:12

I said I said I want this to sound like we are playing together. Not that you're just tooling around.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:19

You made me a better, you made me you you've been making me a better guitar player playing this because I because I I wanted to just be. I don't know about that, but I wanted to just noodle the whole thing, feel like I always do. Right. But I I was trying to be so I was trying to do kind of like I just want to point one one thing out. This so there's a doe barrel on it, and there's there's a lead guitar on it, and there's a lot of it. There's all sorts of great instrumentation on it. And I wanted to I can't do that, but I like this effect here where you Yeah, that's pretty. So all I'm doing is doing like this G shape, but just the try. Oh yeah, E shape. Yeah, you're right. Sorry. G shape if you bar the third, third fret.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:02

It's an E shape. I know what it is.

unknown 1:28:04

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:05

Stupid. But I like I I I'm obsessed with doing this lately where you just and slide it into.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:13

Yeah, I know where you're going, don't you?

The Chicks, Jerry Douglas, And Songcraft

SPEAKER_01 1:28:15

Yeah, you do. But I also like this. This uh it's got a what is this uh C add nine?

SPEAKER_00 1:28:24

Probably.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:25

Yeah. You play it up here, and then it goes. That's pretty. So I was trying to kind of work some of that in. Um everything, uh every time I try to do something like that with chords, it always ends up just sounding like like bad l like a bad version of Little Wing.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:46

Did you listen to the lyrics at all?

SPEAKER_01 1:28:48

Enough to find try to pick a movie that would go well with it.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:52

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:53

Or that it'd be like you like the lyrics?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:55

Because I like lyrics.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:56

Yeah, it's I think they're kind of You definitely paid more attention to them than I did. I know Cold Day in July. There's a lot that happened on Main Street. Sun's coming up. Um watching you drive away. This is one of those songs you you you know, one of those songs where you're like, no, I've never heard this before, and then they'll say a line, you're like, Oh yeah, I've heard this song.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:18

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:18

Yeah, this that was this one's a little bit more.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:20

That was the one for that. Well, don't you think it sounds like someone's driving away when she's like watching you drive away?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:27

Yeah, it does kind of. You can almost feel feel her reaching. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:31

Doesn't it?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:33

Why is she chasing the car?

SPEAKER_05 1:29:35

She's a dog. Who's your dad?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:38

Dang, there was something about that I wanted to say, but I can't remember what it was. I'm sure it was so great.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:43

Oh uh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:45

So w what uh did you listen to any other versions of this or anything?

SPEAKER_05 1:29:49

No, I don't do stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:53

Any idea for who you'd want?

SPEAKER_05 1:29:55

Yes. Did you pick somebody Well, okay, so I picked my Did you do our categories?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:58

What hang on, real quick. What's your favorite part of this song?

SPEAKER_05 1:30:01

The sun's coming, I'm coming up the chorus.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:06

It the chorus almost sounds like a bridge.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:09

It does.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:09

It does.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:10

And they don't do it after the first verse either. So I I like it when the song structure is more interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:15

Yeah, and they I like the what what's this recording? Have like a minute and a half jam session at the end.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:21

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:22

It's pretty slick. That's nice. And she's like they're like singing while they're doing it. Yeah, yeah. It's got this big ensemble feel. Yeah, it's cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:29

Uh it's a good song.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:31

It's a really good song.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:32

So I was so I had picked out my B side song, and then I realized I also want that B-side artist to do the cover. Is that allowed?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:44

I'll allow it.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:45

You really need to work a little bit and take this a little bit more seriously.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:48

Shut up. I have. I want to hear Smokin' Out the Window as the B-side.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:57

Okay. I mean, it's a great song.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:00

Content-wise, how could you do this to me?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:02

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:06

But then I was like, you know what? I want to hear Silksonic sing this song.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:09

While we're here.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:10

I mean, I want the whole Silksonic feel and everybody involved, Anderson Pack and Fernando Mars, I want them to take that song and make it their song.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:23

I'm trying, I'm sitting here, I'm like, I'm trying to hear them sing it. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they'd they'd make it great. Um yeah, because you got the they took like that fill that fill Philly soul sound, that kind of like um um OJ's sort of anyways. I love I love the sound of Silksonic.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:45

Yeah. But wouldn't they just I gotta quit petting him.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:47

My brain just drops out.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:50

This is the last time you come to the podcast, where we're gonna.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:53

You can't come, by the way, even if you're dead. Oh no dogs allowed. But cats aren't allowed. Kitties are specifically.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:01

Um anyway, that's mine. And then for my movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:06

Well, am I allowed?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:07

Yeah, I just kind of want to explore that a little bit more.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:11

I don't think there's anything else to explore. Go listen to Silk Sonic on your own, and then you can tell me what you think about that. No, they're singing the boy version.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:23

He's gotta wear a wig, though, I would think.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:25

Someone has to be holding a mandolin.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:27

Joy uh Lynn White, she has a blonde wig? I don't know if it's a wig. She had a dolly look to her. In fairness, it could just be her hair.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:36

Thank you for being fair. You're welcome. Um that would be the great a great opening for a romance movie where the guy leaves her. It keeps it keeps making me think about Sweet Home Alabama, but that's not how that opens. That's more the opposite.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:53

But that sort of setting. I wish I could help you out. I just have not seen that many country western rom-coms. But yeah, that is uh that is definitely what I was thinking of too. Not what I chose, of course.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:05

What'd you choose?

SPEAKER_01 1:33:06

Uh for my movie?

SPEAKER_05 1:33:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:08

Uh Super Bad. Um wow. At the end where they're like parting ways at the end. Like never thought they'd be apart, but they're going off with going off with girls.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:17

We don't miss each other. Yeah. I don't miss each other.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:23

I thought it'd be a good uh I also had stepbrothers on there.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:28

So your mind went a different way.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:29

Well, I thought, you know, I'd be a little silly. Just have a little fun with it. That's why we do this.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:34

Your B-side.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:36

My cover. So who did I put? I mean, I know who I who I put, but I feel like I feel like I want to go on a little journey here. Um well, so is there a part that they go la da da la da? That makes me think of Maid of the Mirror.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:51

Oh well, Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:52

So first I was like Michael Jackson. Like, of course, let the hear Michael Jackson cover this song, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:33:56

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:57

Michael Jackson and Bruno Mars.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:58

Oh my gosh, we went kind of to the same place.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:00

But that's not who I chose.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:01

Who'd you choose?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:02

I chose Aerosmith.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:03

Oh, that's a great one.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:05

Because this makes me I every time you sing this song, it makes me think of crying.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:10

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:11

There was a time when I was so broken hard. What there's a how's the first verse go? How's the how's the verse go?

SPEAKER_04 1:34:20

The moon is full, my arms are empty.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:28

And I just want to hear like Joe Perry going, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:31

That's a great one.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:32

Yeah. And d also just a little sidebar here. Did you know that uh Bradley Whitford is Joylyn White's next brother's uncle? He was in Get Out. You may know him as Eric from Billy Madison.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:46

Okay, I wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:48

Brad Whitford is the rhythm guitar player for Aerosmith. Wow. They're not the same guy. No. I looked it up. Two different Brad Whits. Whitford. Whitford. Yeah. Anyways, fun fact.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:58

That has literally nothing to do with anything. What's your what's your B side?

SPEAKER_01 1:35:02

It absolutely does. It's talking about Aerosmith. What's your B s it has to do with everything? Um my B side, gone till November, Black Lefan.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:11

Oh, I don't know that.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:12

Yeah, you do. Really?

SPEAKER_05 1:35:14

See me a little ditty of it?

SPEAKER_02 1:35:16

Every time I make a run, girl, you turn around and cry. Oh yeah. I ask myself. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:24

I'll be gone until November. I'll be gone to November.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:26

I do know, I do know that.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:27

It's a good uh Caroline would smap you in the face if you said you didn't know that.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:31

She's home now, so maybe we should bring her in.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:34

Whoa. Is there uh anything else you want to talk about with this fine gem of a town?

SPEAKER_05 1:35:40

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:40

You want to talk about Jerry Douglas some more?

SPEAKER_05 1:35:42

No, but I love singing and I'm happy to have a chance to sing fun songs that don't have to be for work.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:51

Are you gonna use this for work?

SPEAKER_05 1:35:53

Probably not.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:54

This is not an opportunity.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:56

I just don't have a lot of opportunity for that right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:59

I'm sorry about that.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:00

It's okay. I'm not I'm not in a position a lot of times where I can choose or if I choose the song, if someone asks me to choose it, I tend to stay away from sadness songs because of the nature of the people that I'm seeing at hospice or in cancer care. If they choose the sad song, then of course I'll sing it and we can talk about it. But I don't I don't like to bring that to the table unless it seems like that's what they want.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:28

Yeah, just you just you being a professional. That's right. And I do want to make uh a little bit of an apology when I said earlier that uh that that sucks, that that's sad. I didn't really mean it. I didn't want people to think that I was that big of a sap. So but I am I do th I'm glad you said all that.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:43

Uh about what me having a a bad session? Yeah. How that happens. He's just a cranky old man. It was alright.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:49

I do care.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:50

It's not for everyone at every time of day.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:53

It's not for. Oh never mind.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:56

For you. I don't know. I feel like I say that a lot.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:00

Um well, wrapping it up then, huh? Let's wrap it up. All right, guys. Uh make sure you uh just Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:06

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SPEAKER_01 1:37:15

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SPEAKER_05 1:37:17

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SPEAKER_01 1:37:26

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SPEAKER_05 1:37:30

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SPEAKER_01 1:37:37

Uh yeah. All right, guys. All right Thank you so much. Uh have a great uh day.