From Sci-Fi Terror to Pop Duet: “Blink” + “The Girl Is Mine” | Ep 16

We build a new studio, sip eggnog, and chase big ideas: why Blink still chills, how Strange New Worlds S3 swings and misses, and why Quincy led Thriller with a soft duet before the heavy hitters

• new basement setup and lighter upfront banter
• quick corrections on films, TV, and music trivia
• Elvis 2022 standout scenes and soundtrack choices
• Strange New Worlds S3 highlights and weak spots
• Doctor Who Blink recap, Weeping Angels rules, time loop device
• practical effects, awards, and quantum-locked logic
• Thriller singles strategy and why The Girl Is Mine came first
• session lore on Toto, Eddie Van Halen, and MJ’s directing style
• harmony talk on borrowed chords and vocal-arrangement tricks
• dream cover pairings, B-sides, and pop-culture duos

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Transcript

Cold Open, Banter, New Space

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But look at him, he's like looks like he's got his jaw busted a few different times.

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Maybe he has. That makes him cool.

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Maybe that's why he can sing so good. Physics.

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Is that like it was he like had uh he paid some dude in an alley to try to make him sing like Freddie Mercury? He's like sing, I said sing Okay.

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Two married friends.

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Whoa, did you rewrite this?

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In the corner of a room, a basement, surrounded by playing kids, and still four microphones. They got in a car crash. She died in his arms. Because she was still warm. The audience won't like it.

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Not at all.

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Not at all.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

No, they will not like it, not at all.

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I've done all the singing that I want to do.

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You and me both.

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But you like singing. I do like singing, but you enjoy it to a it's very difficult for me.

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I've also been singing all day at work as well.

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That's your humble brag. You'd say vo vocals are your uh preferred go-to instrument, right?

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I like to sing more than anything else.

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Let's see, let me try uh my.

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I'm glad you brought us these paper towels because I have a runny nose. We do. Post nasal drip.

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This will probably work. This is interesting. We're putting a lot of faith in the in the uh Terry box here.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

Oh my goodness. You need to put your headphones on, baby Terry.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

Hey, why don't you, while I do all that, why don't you uh say something what the podcast is and who we are.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Hey everybody, welcome to our podcast in our new space area.

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So I'm in our eggnog.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

I can't talk, you keep talking. Ooh, eggnog sounds.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

Oh no, I didn't think about that. I'm sorry, everybody.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

I did think about it, but when you didn't bring it up, I was like, oh good, he didn't think about it, so we can drink eggnog on the podcast today.

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Don't make a lot of noise.

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When you guys hear this, it's gonna be like a big thing. But we're having eggnog for a holiday.

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Coats your throat. I I think you're supposed to have eggnog before you do like a big single engagement.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

Yeah. I'm sure that's true. Anyway, we're gonna go. Throw it up where?

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Like a baby bird.

SPEAKER_00 2:34

Oh, okay.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

That's why we're drinking this right now in honor of Andy Griffith. Andy Griffith.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

Uh okay. If you want to know all of our inside jokes, you're gonna have to start over at episode one.

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Good luck.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Uh welcome to our podcast. My name is Leslie Shoecraft, and this is my husband Rob Shoecraft. This is Rob Shoecraft's third baby. And he's the main parent in charge. He's basically doing the nighttime feedings and the diaper changes, and I'm just like the bonus babysitter-ish parent.

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So that's a I think for first of all, it's extremely flattering. Second, you are doing more and more and you keep me stable and you keep me wanting to do it because I know I can't quit. We've also put a little bit of money into this and time.

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Yeah, we have a three-year contract.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

This is episode 16. Three year a three-year contract?

SPEAKER_00 3:30

I thought that was what we're signed.

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I think we're gonna do it.

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Did we use that gold pen that Ariel uses?

SPEAKER_02 3:36

Oh. What's the uh Ursula? Who's the woman? Who's the singer that's uh Jody Benson? Oh.

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Is that right? Yeah, I think so. I think it is. Uh anyway.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

Julie Benson is in Dexter, right? Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

Jodie Benson, I'm pretty sure, is a little mermaid.

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Okay.

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The original one, not the live action remake one. Nice. She was probably too old to swim around in a mermaid outfit. But you know what? Who knows? Maybe she's not that old. Anyway, welcome to our podcast. It's called The Audience Won't Like It. And it features us. And I'm just gonna give you a quick little rundown of how this is gonna work. We do uh a little bit of upfront. Well, we're at a concert, you know, we're at a concert. We're in line for a concert. We're in line for a concert right now. So thanks for getting in line behind us. You may regret it.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

I could actually kind of since we're in this new space we were in a closet before, like literally in a Oh wait, that's saved that. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

We can keep talking about it.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

Well, it's hard to pretend like you're in a line when you're in a closet, but here down here, this looks like it would be a legitimate corner on a wall somewhere.

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Oh yeah.

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Where they're just hanging blankets. Maybe Look. Maybe there's somebody uh Cinder block. Yeah. You know what? I bet there's a probably uh what's the proper term for homeless individuals?

SPEAKER_00 4:53

Unhoused.

SPEAKER_02 4:54

Unhoused, who may have a pretty decent this would be a decent setup, maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

Some people in the audience are not gonna like this.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

I know. I'm trying okay, I'm just trying to role play. This is what happens when I shoot from the hip. I apologize. Uh anyway, we're in line for a concert each week.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Each week that you join us on our podcast, we'll be in line for another concert. I think tonight we're in a dive bar.

SPEAKER_02 5:13

Okay. I don't want to. I don't want to call this gentleman's home a dive bar.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

Oh. We're in someone's home?

SPEAKER_02 5:19

Well, it's houseless.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

Unhoused.

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Unhoused.

SPEAKER_00 5:25

People with apartments are probably houseless, too. Okay. Um one time I called your friend's condo and apartment, and he was very quick to correct me.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

Okay, we all after the show.

SPEAKER_00 5:36

Yeah, it's a funny one though. So anyway, um, and while we're in line, we are we see someone different each week. This week we're actually seeing a a power duo.

SPEAKER_02 5:45

You you could argue it's actually more of a power trio, and I'll explain later.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

Okay. But that is the number one single off of the thriller album. The first not the number one single, the fur the lead single. I was gonna say the first single.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

No way that'd be thriller.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

The first single released to the radio from the thriller album.

SPEAKER_02 6:08

Okay, I d I did not know that.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

I do I do know that now. And it is a duet for Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney. Sir Sir Paul McCartney?

SPEAKER_02 6:16

Yes, I do believe so. Sir wait, Sir Michael Jackson?

SPEAKER_00 6:19

Sir Michael Jackson? That's what some people call it. Prince.

SPEAKER_02 6:23

I'd say probably Prince.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

Sir Prince Jackson.

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What do you call a prince? Is that a sir too, huh?

SPEAKER_00 6:28

Your Highness. I don't know if that's Your Highness. I don't think you call Sir James.

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I'm really living up to the title today.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

About how people aren't gonna like you.

SPEAKER_02 6:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Okay. So anyway, when you're in line with people, you tend to uh, you know, have to make some small talk. So that's how this is gonna start.

SPEAKER_05 6:47

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 6:47

And then once we get a little bit more comfortable with each other, we may move on to a main topic. We might finally connect on something.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

You think so?

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Yeah, we might. And then at the end Have you mentioned sorry, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

Have you mentioned the word married news team yet? You did, you've already got it.

SPEAKER_00 7:01

Uh well I introduced this as Rob and Leslie Shoecraft. We're a married news team. Yeah the only in the tri-state area. And this week we are going to be doing and then instead of actually going to the concert, then we just cover the song because that's how we do it. And this week we're covering The Girl Is Mine. So, Rob, person I just met on the street. So let's acknowledge the room in the room.

SPEAKER_02 7:26

You want to go right there?

Show Format And Concert-In-Line Premise

SPEAKER_00 7:27

I want to go to this room. You don't? Our new room. If you have a plan, then you can take it away.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

Well, no, that's fine. I I just wanted to mention, are we go not doing Corrections Corner?

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Or uh Oh, uh well, there's also a Corrections Corner.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

Do you think we should bring it up?

SPEAKER_00 7:39

I mean, like I want to talk about our new space. That's what I wanted to talk about.

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Let's talk about our new space.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

Did you have it in line, like where you have some comedic timing for I don't. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

No, I'd love it.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

Alright, so you might if you've been keeping up, you might know. We've been filming in a closet. Rob had to rewrite the theme song on the spot.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

On the spot. Did I pull it off with Grace?

SPEAKER_00 8:00

You've pulled it off with Grace. Was she here? She gave you a good backup singing. Um so we finally we have we have a very wonderfully large home. It's more than adequate. And we have an unfinished basement that's under the entire house. We've been finishing half of it. And then we decided we needed to move into our son's closet, and he said no. And we allowed it.

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Yeah.

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Because we respect him as a person.

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I think we probably made the right call though.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

Yeah, because now we're in a bigger space. Yeah. So we decided on the unfinished side of the basement. The good thing about Never, this is why you don't throw things away, is that we had a million. Yeah. We had a million um eerie rugs, moving blankets, curtains, galore, all kinds of fabric, tables, everything you could need to set up a poor man's podcast, an unhoused man's podcast studio.

SPEAKER_02 8:59

Well said. I think you finally nailed it. For both of us. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 9:05

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

Yeah, and it's uh I'm I'm excited about it.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

Like it it's I mean, I can put my arms on a table. I can have stuff over here.

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Drinks here. Waters. We got a uh music stand.

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I got a pencil.

SPEAKER_02 9:18

Because there's I forgot there's people who are there's there's person there's a person who is listening. I forgot. But we have a guitar stand, we have microphones. We can let your amp. We got my amp back here.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

I have my keyboard and moved it.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

Can you hear me okay in your microphone? I mean your uh headphones. We know what wait, wait, what we know what headphones are, we know what microphones are sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

Sometimes. Yeah, I can hear you fine.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

All right, cool.

SPEAKER_00 9:40

So anyway, um, and also if just a heads up, if you want to hear our cover, our cover of our girl is mine. Our girl is mine. Our girl, she's okay. Uh it's gonna be on a separate video only on the YouTube. You cannot hear it on the podcast. Rob's gonna be drinking like a spy all evening.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

It's on on my list, but you know it's a great movie.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

I heard you swallow.

SPEAKER_02 10:02

Doggone it. First of all, we gotta do an episode. This is a um note to self. Shout out to Norm McDonald, who could definitely come to our concert.

SPEAKER_00 10:10

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:12

But I want to have an episode on podcasting, what I've learned about podcasting sometimes. Oh, that's like this whole setup, we could talk about gear. Once I've actually sort of figure out how to use it.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

If it was up to me, we'd be talking to our cell phones.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

And then I want to uh what do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Like we'd just be recording this just with a cell phone on a cell phone tripod.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

And you we'd probably have a lot less difficulty and I'd be a lot less stressed. You'd probably be like, oh, I really need a be like, that is how we started though. That's how I started uh the last podcast I did.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Um anyways. But then another one on On Spy, that movie with Melissa McCartney.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

Oh, that's a funny movie.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

And Jason Statham. Jason Statham, that might uh it's not on my list, but it that might be he that might be his best role for me. That's saying something because I love I love all Statham Ash and action movies.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

But he's just it's like he's making fun of himself and he's so hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

Yeah, he's the Who knew? He's the he's the best.

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Do you think he would come on our show?

SPEAKER_02 11:16

I bet if we let's I bet a thousand subscribers.

SPEAKER_00 11:20

Out of a thousand subscribers, we can get Jason's.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

And if we we hit a thousand subscribers and then we have a celebration where in in honor of the thousand subscribers, we do a whole week of stathin. We do no, we do four statham episodes and make some sort of half decent effort to try to get him on our show.

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I want you to commit to stathan or staatham.

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Bacon.

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Kevin Staat. Staken.

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Steak and bake and shake. I think it's it's it's it's uh European, so you have to say stake and that's right.

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It's proper. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Yeah. Like that's all serp.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Oh, do you hate mouth noises? Well, here is a creamy drink. You cover the microphone.

SPEAKER_02 12:00

Cover the mic when you do it. It's polite.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

When you drink eggnog into a microphone, you cover the microphone. And now you now you can talk into the headphone. The headnog. The nognog.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

Breaker, breaker, watch your 20. I learned that from my sister. She's a truck driver.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

You were saying something earlier about how you you didn't want to waste too much time in the beginning.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

We gotta be kind of it, it's okay. If it's you talking endlessly about How many millimeters of eggnog have you had? Oh my gosh. Do you think I'll even drink it all?

SPEAKER_02 12:35

No, but I will.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

Oh, you're gonna finish mine?

SPEAKER_02 12:38

Of course.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

Did Clark get some?

New Basement Studio Setup

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The doggone or the eggnog, eggnog is no, the doggone. Doggone works with eggnog. The doggone, eggnog is mine.

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See if you can get louder. Alright. Corrections corner. We have to have a lot of corners. We gotta get through a lot of corners.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

I'm gonna blow through Corrections Corner.

SPEAKER_00 12:55

Because there isn't that much.

SPEAKER_02 12:57

You're right. Uh Casino Royale. I said 2007. It was 2006.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Oh, okay. So it was early. I said it was before Caroline, so that was correct.

SPEAKER_02 13:07

Yeah, you nailed it. Uh which Aunt Viv?

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Still?

SPEAKER_02 13:11

Was that wasn't the what I put as the Why He Don't Love Me Man episode? Uh-huh. That's Janet Hubert. The original Aunt Viv.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

Oh, you were wrong.

SPEAKER_02 13:18

And that was the name of that episode's Papa's Got a Brand New Excuse.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

Season four, episode 24. We gotta do that one.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

We should watch that.

SPEAKER_02 13:27

Man, it is a that is a killer.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

What what episode of our podcast did we talk about that where we both got choked up?

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Oh, we that has that has come up almost as frequently as Uncle Dan has. And Kitty Kitty Wills.

SPEAKER_00 13:40

Oh, do we leave her behind?

SPEAKER_02 13:42

We should do like a stat like stat stat line that shows how many mentions.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

Does it count when we talk about them in this circumstance?

SPEAKER_02 13:50

Oh yeah. Yeah, we already got him out of the way.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

We wouldn't have to talk about you anymore.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

Dan, you can turn it off now.

SPEAKER_00 13:55

Yeah, Dan. You got your mention.

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Kitty is she got a new dress, I noticed.

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Kitty's got a brand new dress.

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What was I saying about a guy? That's not a guy, it's a guy. It's a girl.

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It's our baby ghost kitty ghost.

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Baby kitty ghost.

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All right.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

Okay, anyways, and listen, um Angelica Houston. Totally the daughter.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Treasure of Sierra Madre was directed by John Houston and starred his father, Walter Houston. The three of them are all related.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

So wait, grandparent, parent, daughter? Is that what is that? No, and I don't care.

SPEAKER_03 14:30

I think it's Grahamparent. Graham?

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Graham.

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Gra Graham Graham.

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Graham Graham. She named her baby Graham Graham. I'll give you some context on that one. My friend, my friend's last name was Graham. And then she got married and her last name became a new last name. And then when I told my sister that she named her baby Graham, she said, she named her baby Graham Graham.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

Oh shoot. All right.

SPEAKER_00 15:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Storm, wind, strings, and old movies. You know what are like the sound effects of like the wind and it's like the violins go. Yeah. That is it's incidental music? It's incidental music or underscore music. Okay. Atmospheric music.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

I was gonna say, I never got to say because I looked it up, but then we never got back to it. I was gonna say pretty much all classical music in this day and age would almost always fall under incidental music because most of it is being used to underscore movies.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Although I uh yes, totally true. One thing that is on the rise, I know, is the score of video games.

SPEAKER_00 15:33

Mm.

SPEAKER_02 15:36

Oh, in terms of incidental? Yeah. Oh, I I gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 15:39

Because like you know, a lot of Bach and Beethoven, that's classical music, it's not incidental music. It wasn't written to go with the case.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

I thought you were talking about like original soundtrack kind of like this the score of the like um Enamorricone or Sylvestri or freaking Danny Elfman.

SPEAKER_00 15:58

Aw. He's good. He is Or Alan Thick. Does he write music?

SPEAKER_02 16:06

He oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

Oh, you mean Robin's dad?

SPEAKER_02 16:08

I I'd say in the next there's a pretty good chance in the next two months we're gonna do different strokes theme song.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

I adore that song.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

What's the one that goes to choice? He wrote it.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

Um actually that's in my notes today. I kind of think it has like a little bit of girl is vineyard. Girls vine. Girl is vine.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

Rob can't talk tonight. He's doing okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

Alright, so moving on. Uh shaky noise on the Wes Montgomery, he died of a heart attack in 1968. I think you asked how he died. Um, Chuckless Manifesto in that aging book.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

At Walgandi? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

Being mortal. You were. Uh Jeremiah's Band is Hearts Fall. Do you even know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_00 16:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

Cool. I said Straight Dopism in reference to uh Ghetto Boy's song, Straight Gangstaism.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_02 16:54

I'm just I think straight dope's a movie.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Swing off your game.

SPEAKER_02 16:57

It's a great song, though. I love that too. We're gonna cover it one of these days. I'm gonna find a way. Uh I said Ravi Shankar was on Sgt. Pepper. He's not. Harrison was just playing the sitar on the whole time. For some reason I thought he was on it, but he did influence him heavily. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

I like to hear about that.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

And uh Marilyn Manson's real name is Brian Hugh Warner.

SPEAKER_00 17:16

Good. That wasn't a correction, that was just a follow-up.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

There was also some uh some things that I might have missed that you said.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

Oh, this is the Rob Misted call.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

You said something about finding treasure in the I wrote finding treasure branch of the military.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

Well, you said he was an old veteran, treasure hunter, but you paused between veteran. I think I think that's what it was. That's what it was. So then I said missing in the treasure hunting branch of the military. Because you said veteran.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

I was sitting there doing dishes, listening to this, and taking notes. Yeah, I was sitting there laughing because that was pretty that was pretty good. Uh oh, and then the the last show may not ever air.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

I haven't actually I haven't had the courage to the one we were talking about, correcting corner?

SPEAKER_02 18:03

Yeah, I freaking shot the whole thing in slow motion somehow. And I got a feeling I'm not gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

Tell us how you discovered it.

SPEAKER_02 18:10

I may just release it like that anyway. I don't care. Who cares?

SPEAKER_00 18:14

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

That's we're up to 14 subscribers. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 18:18

Is it are we exciting?

SPEAKER_02 18:19

If you're subscribing or you're listening, we really do appreciate you.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

We do.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

Every time it goes up, I I I smile. Uh comment. Write a c make a comment. If you're if you're from somewhere, um if you well, even if I do know you, let me know. But if I don't, especially if I don't, let me know.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

What if we they think you know them but you don't know him? But then they get their feelings hurt. It's like, you don't remember me, man.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

Yeah, well, that's a risk.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

And somebody might write, why don't we love me, man?

SPEAKER_02 18:45

Oh man. Richard Carpenter, by the way, that's Karen Carpenter's brother of the Carpenters.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

I thought I looked that up and said that, but Yeah, you did.

Corrections Corner Lightning Round

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I don't know. Uh anyways. I somehow I wrote it down for some reason. So, hey, check this out. So, in an effort to uh streamline a little bit of the corrections corner, which is no consumption corner.

SPEAKER_00 19:05

Consumption corner is the next part, and that is where Robin is.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

The next part of small talk, unstructured.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

Tells us all about all the stuff he's been doing that he's been doing on purpose so he could talk about it on the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 19:14

It's not just me though. You talk about things too.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

Hardly.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

Hmm.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

Somebody with a stopwatch, you need to tell me.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Well, so we need a stopwatch. We need like a we need like a um uh uh what's that Pomodoro timer, like a tomato timer. Oh, and Pam.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

What's that uh Pam Pam? Yes, Michael?

SPEAKER_02 19:36

That's like Batgirl. When uh when she hit punch somebody, it said Pam. Lydna!

SPEAKER_00 19:45

Women everywhere are rejoicing at that.

SPEAKER_02 19:47

It's really good. I'm not intentionally trying to make people mad. I'm sorry to everybody No one would ever be mad at you. Um mouth noise haters. I apologize.

SPEAKER_00 19:57

This isn't your episode.

SPEAKER_02 19:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

Um, okay, well. What you got? I got some stuff this time. I'm trying to keep up with it.

SPEAKER_02 20:05

Oh, yeah. Listen. Oh, so in an effort to uh it yeah, this is going well and this is going smooth. Listen, I'm gonna list some topics, and you tell me which one you tell me what you'd like to talk about first.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

Okay. I watched the Elvis movie.

unknown 20:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

2022.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

I watched we we got Star Trek Season 3 that we both watched.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Okay, I want to talk about that together.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

But keep listening. List your list.

SPEAKER_02 20:31

Earl Clue album.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

Okay, I've listened to that.

SPEAKER_02 20:34

Which is Soda Pop Shuffle. Right. 1985.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

Rainbow Man.

SPEAKER_02 20:37

Rainbow Man. Lester Young and Oscar Peterson album. Now listen. This is the album that I'm going to ask you to listen to next. And this this thing, what I did with the Earl Clue album is I this is one of my favorite albums, and I told Leslie, please listen to this as far as you'd like to. If at any time you want to turn it off, that's fine. As long as you listen to this track, which is Rainbow Man, and what was the other thing? Uh let me know why why you stopped and how far you got. So we'll do that, we'll do that with this album next if you're cool with it.

SPEAKER_05 21:11

Great.

SPEAKER_02 21:11

But, anyways, and then 3I Atlas. Uh I don't have a lot to say there, but I'd bring it up just in case you were following it. Uh, and then the uh community western episode. The two-parter that we just watched.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Well, the second part was not Western.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

No, but it was the same. I wrote that when I watched the first one.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

I haven't updated my own.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

Well, I that is that it well, I got some other stuff.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

I I mean, I I listened to Chris Christofferson's Why Me. I listened to Patsy Klein's Faded Love.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

You did?

SPEAKER_02 21:41

We could talk about Holland Dozier and Holland. You know, we could what about it?

SPEAKER_00 21:45

Why'd you listen to Faded Love?

SPEAKER_02 21:47

You you talked about it last time and I Isn't a pretty song. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

And the music is the piano is nice.

SPEAKER_02 21:52

Like I said, I don't think I've ever heard a Patsy Klein song I didn't like. And that's like I don't really listen to a lot of country, and I honestly probably should listen to more female singers. I'm married to one and have a have one who's have one up and coming.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

Yeah. Halfway. You didn't deliver.

SPEAKER_02 22:13

I I was there for implantation. I was there in front of the uh in front of the show. Cheering cheering on.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

Putting the mirror down. Okay. Well, I there's nothing if you could just talk streamlinedly about all of that, then you can the one I care the least about is the Elvis movie.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

Oh my gosh. Okay. So let me just say this.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

But you say what you wanted to make.

SPEAKER_02 22:35

Let's go. Uh you got a timer? I'm raising my phone.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

Sure, I got a phone.

SPEAKER_02 22:39

Why don't you uh let's go let's go five minutes on this? On Elvis? Sure. Okay, come on.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Hold on, I'm not ready. You can talk though.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

This feels like uh not pardon the uh interruption. What's the people are gonna kill me for not knowing it? The show's been on for like 50 years. Never mind. The ESPN show where they time everything.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

Are you ready?

SPEAKER_02 22:59

Okay. Go. Alright, I watched Elvis, the Elvis movie, 2022. Uh, with director Boz Lurman, I think I'm saying that right, starring Austin Butler, you know, from Dune 2.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

I do know. We talked about that.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and was he in Dune also? Did he show up at the I don't know. I liked I like the Dune movies a lot.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

Very good. I'm glad we rewatched that one.

SPEAKER_02 23:21

Remind me to talk about Dune again, the 1984 version. Oh, yeah. Because it's quite relevant.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

Okay. Today?

SPEAKER_02 23:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 23:26

Okay. Um, is it relevant to our main topic?

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Well, you know who did the uh soundtrack for that is Toto.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

It's a score. It's a like a proper score, like a John Williams style. Yeah, that band. Well, that band is the reason I said the trio, Paul McCartney, Michael Jackson Girl is mine, is because Toto is basically the band on that.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

Oh, wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Um, anyways, session musicians here.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

You're reading into your own time here.

SPEAKER_02 23:52

Okay. Elvis. That's okay.

unknown 23:53

It's not my fault.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

Elvis. Anyways, I really like the movie a lot. I Clark loved this movie. Clark said for the first time Clark's our 13-year-old son. First, what ten years of his life that he hates Elvis? Anytime he played Elvis, he did. For some reason, he felt compelled to sit down and watch the entire Elvis biopic, even though he's doesn't even watch movies like that. Although he says he's seen a lot of movies. He actually has.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

He just watches them differently.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Yeah, he doesn't just sit and watch.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

Yeah. But he's like, the Elvis movie's awesome. You should watch it. I'm like, I thought you hated Elvis. He's like.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

I love him now.

SPEAKER_02 24:26

Yeah, he's like musician. Well, it's really awesome because the soundtrack does all this crazy stuff with um with I don't know, there's a better word for it, but like mashups where they'll take. I mean, honestly, kind of like postmodern jukebox. Well, they'll take like a hip-hop, like an Elvis song with a hip-hop uh blend, and you know, they get a lot of people on it, like uh Gary Clark Jr. But you got like all this huge meld of different styles and sound and and and production methods, and it sounds kind of it could easily be terrible, but it was wonderful. The music, you could I would actually like I haven't yet, but I would like to just sit there and listen to the soundtrack because they could have again they could have easily screwed his songs up, but they've made them really cool. Almost like listening to I can't remember the Beatles album, but it had like a bunch of stuff on it, and there were some very unique.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

Oh, was that I am Sam?

SPEAKER_02 25:20

Oh no. That's not remember. I'll have to it'll be correction scores.

SPEAKER_00 25:24

Uh was it Elvis's actual singing or was it the It was a mix.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

Okay, so I'm let me just spoil this a little bit. I mean, this is a uh halfway, halfway. Okay. This is a biopic, so I mean everybody knows Elvis died, right? What? Yeah, I know. Sorry, baby. Sorry, baby. Sorry, but that was actually my Uncle Jesse imitation, uh, not um Your Elvis imitation. There was this part at the end where they show Austin uh Butler. He's he's Elvis the whole time. He's fantastic. Uncle Dan approved. Uncle Dan loves Elvis, Uncle Dan loved Austin Butler's performance, and so did Clark, a uh hater, period. So the guy did an amazing, he really did an amazing job. He was freaking awesome. And like B.B. King, all the actors were great, actors and actresses. Elvis' wife, uh Priscilla, was awesome. Tom Hanks was great. He was like a villain in this movie. And they had him in like a uh Colin Farrell penguin fat suit kind of thing. And he was almost like the penguin where he was really endearing and actually showed a lot of love, but was also awful. A monster. A monster? Yeah, yeah. That was really interesting. That was probably that's the part that people talk about being inaccurate with like the way they portrayed him, but it it was really quite good for the movie, right? It really served the movie, and um, anyways, I just want to talk about this part at the end. I want to talk about a million things. Look what I got.

SPEAKER_00 26:48

I'm just gonna pick one thing. I'm gonna pick one thing one minute.

Consumption Corner: Watchlist And Music

SPEAKER_02 26:51

There's this part at the end. First of all, most rewatchable scene, I'm gonna step on the rewatchables podcast because I love it, and they haven't done this one. I would say is the part where they're playing Suspicious Minds, and he's basically signing over his life in the movie to be the resident at the Las Vegas uh International Hotel where he just basically died a slow death. Uh-huh. Um and they're playing Suspicious Minds. And the way in the way he's introducing the band and everything, they build up to that, and then they play into that, and then they sign it over, and it's just it's crazy. It's so well done. Anyways, and then the the final scene is Elvis, is Austin Butler playing um Unchained Melody by The Righteous Brothers. And he's on the piano and he's playing it, and it's it's very dramatic, it's really awesome. This is from an actual performance that was shot a few weeks earlier in real life, and Austin Butler's playing it, and it's actually Elvis's voice.

SPEAKER_00 27:41

Dubbed over.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Yeah, Austin Butler does sing a lot in this movie. But it's actually Elvis, and then, and it's oh, I mean, it's really emotional. Like, it's so good. It's better. I don't know if just I don't know if I was just listening, if I was just sitting in my car listening to it, and it was playing, and that was the first time I heard it, I know I'm about to go over.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

I already turned it off.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

I don't know how I don't know if I'd be quite as moved.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

Yeah, but like the visual.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

But when they when you just watch this whole stor this whole arc and then it happens, oh, and then what they do is they never do this in the rest of the movie, but they do this at this final scene. Is they kind of they shoot off I don't remember exactly how they do it with the camera, but and then it's actually Elvis from that performance.

SPEAKER_00 28:26

Oh, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

But they made Austin Butler look just like him, and it's just and he's smiling, and it's so he looks like Is it kind of he looks like death in a bucket.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

Yuck.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

But he sounds so amazing, and he's so intense.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

That's making me sad.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

It was really good. I really enjoyed it. It's it was flawed. I there are a couple parts I could eye roll to and we could talk about them, but for the most part, I I loved it. I almost yeah, it's it's intense. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

All right, moving on.

SPEAKER_02 28:54

Not intense, but that's not the right word.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

Moving on.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Moving on. What do you want to talk about? Star Trek?

SPEAKER_00 29:00

Sure. Star Trek, Strange New World, season three. It's a new Star Trek. It's on the real TV.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

Parliament uh Parliament. Um Parliament Funkad Funkadelic Station. You know, they just started it. And they they swung big. They bought the uh the Roddenberry franchise, uh, Star Trek. It's uh George Clinton's newest newest project.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

It's kind of experimental, good startup.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

Turns out it was, yeah. They got a bargain on it. Uh hang on a second. Let me just make sure this is a recording.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

Oh, okay. Keep talking about it. I'm sure it is. I'm just gonna do it. Okay, so Strange, I'm just gonna tell you a little bit about Strange New Worlds. Oh, okay, cool. Uh Strange New Worlds is the ship. It's the Enterprise one crew before Kirk becomes the captain. One captain before Captain Kirk. And so his name is Christopher Pike, right, Christopher?

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Yes.

Elvis 2022: Soundtrack And Performances

SPEAKER_00 29:54

Captain Pike. And um his hair is unbelievable. It can't be real.

SPEAKER_02 30:01

That's something else.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

It can't be real. Do you think it's real? Um Rebecca Romain uh extra. I do think it's real.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

I do think it's real.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

You think it's flub like built up with extra extensions?

SPEAKER_02 30:17

Did people meme that? Are there I haven't seen that? There's gotta be. There's gotta be just massive. There's gonna be a subrated Reddit dedicated to it.

SPEAKER_00 30:25

About strange new worlds on the internet.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

I don't see much either. Uh my Reddit like we did my Reddit save post a couple uh what was that last episode? Or the couple of three episodes ago. And I there's like no Star Trek in there. Unless it was like a general sci-fi discussion. And I my Reddit my Reddit corners are kind of I have like Reddit. Well, yeah, there was like topics that I almost only look at on Reddit, and then if there's other topics in my life that I just don't for some reason don't use Reddit. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

Well anyway, back to Strange New Worlds. It's great. I think it's wonderful. I could plan to continue to watch it if they keep making it.

SPEAKER_03 31:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

The last episode of the most recent season.

SPEAKER_03 31:10

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

If I thought was very much of a an homage to the inner light, for sure. This is gonna be spoiler, so skip 15 years ahead and then you know so that uh break it r run it run through it. Because he she allows him the memories of a life that they never had.

SPEAKER_02 31:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:32

And that is the similar good call. The similar thread of in her life. He lives an entire life that didn't actually happen.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

I think he even mentioned that while we were while we were watching it. Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

They and it's a cool it's a cool would that be a trope or a It is, but I I I loved the I wrote down what he said at the end. Because I feel like it's very it ties in a little bit with because we're gonna talk a little bit about time travel in our main uh topic today. But he says, let me I have to get off my phone timer now and back to my notes. So everyone just hang on. Okay, he says, Maybe memory is as real as the present, and no one we have ever loved is truly gone.

SPEAKER_03 32:17

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

And if you think about that too much, it'll send you into a tailspin.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

No doubt.

SPEAKER_00 32:22

Because if you think about time isn't linear. And just because you feel like it's something that ha already happened and things are yet to happen doesn't mean that's actually how it's happening.

SPEAKER_05 32:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:33

And so people and and also just sort of poignant with death and you know, missing people you love and everything. I thought it was a really great quote.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

There's a lot we don't know.

SPEAKER_00 32:41

I thought it was a really great uh quote. Did you like the I thought it would go nicely at a funeral? Wait until my next funeral.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

What's the m yeah? You do a lot of them.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

I don't do them, I just sing at that.

SPEAKER_02 32:54

Well, yeah, but you gag them. Yeah, you do a lot of funerals. You should do like a uh you should partner up with uh Vince Vaughn and Will Farrell and do it.

SPEAKER_00 33:03

Yeah. Oh, sorry, thousand subscribers. Anyway, what do you want to say about Strange New Worlds?

SPEAKER_02 33:14

Um what did you think about what did you think about that compared to seasons one and two? Because I thought seasons one and two were amazing. Well well, I I I uh what I should say is they lived up to they they exceeded my expectations. Season three I felt like they had a lot of good ideas, but they didn't it seemed very light.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

Like it seemed like the first two seasons had a bit more seriousness going on.

SPEAKER_02 33:38

Like the holodeck episode where they're doing like a Who Done It kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

Oh, the Sherlock Holmes one?

SPEAKER_02 33:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

I just did not hit for me. Like I feel like isn't there a Sherlock?

SPEAKER_00 33:49

Oh, it's a Robin Hood one.

unknown 33:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:51

It's well honestly, so for just a second, I seriously thought, are they are they going so deep on on the Robin Hood TS uh next generation episode, which if you don't know was a notoriously terrible episode.

SPEAKER_00 34:07

Yes, a pretty bad one.

SPEAKER_02 34:08

And are they are they just saying let's make sure let's make our own crappy episode in honor of the plan to watch it? Scotty's part of that episode, if I remember right, was pretty awesome. Yeah. There were there are always uh there's there's always the one thing I like about the show is there's always something going on on the show that is cool, even if the rest of it is.

SPEAKER_00 34:33

Well, the thing that was cool about that episode, it was like the inaugural holodeck like beta tester. Yeah. It's like it's like it's like, oh, they didn't have a holodeck. Like that's cool.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

The the episode uh do you want to talk anymore about that one?

SPEAKER_00 34:45

No.

SPEAKER_02 34:46

I I like Pat Noswald in it. I thought because I know he's a huge Star Trek fan. Is he in the Lisa Lampinelli has a joke about him? Uh what's that?

SPEAKER_00 34:53

He was in the holodeck episode.

SPEAKER_02 34:55

No, he wasn't in the holodeck episode, but uh I that I I was just I'm I'm rattling through things I was thinking about.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

Um no, he played a did he he played a uh an alien species of some sort.

SPEAKER_02 35:08

Rebecca Romain's love interests. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

She is sorry, the worst.

SPEAKER_02 35:14

That was her best episode, in my opinion. Just because it was so funny. I think just putting her next to Pat and Oswald it kind of works like a Dan Devito Schwarzenegger thing. I'm not sure who's which in that in that uh example.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Yeah, I don't know either. No offense to anybody. Oh, but just I watched that I just reached my stand goal and I have not stood up yet this hour.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

Wow. That's fantastic. Are you gonna teach me how to float?

SPEAKER_00 35:38

Or Levitate.

SPEAKER_02 35:40

Levitate.

SPEAKER_00 35:40

Levitating.

SPEAKER_02 35:41

Listen, so listen, would you?

SPEAKER_00 35:43

I would.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

There's another episode. The one where Ortegas is it Ortagas or Ortega? I think it's Ortegas.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

Continue.

SPEAKER_02 35:51

So where she goes and she is on a planet with a gorn. With a gorn.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

When we just watched like two planets ago.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

What did you think about that?

SPEAKER_00 36:00

Well, she's not my favorite character.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

I think she's a great character when there's She's a great character.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

She serves a purpose. I don't need her to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

Being the wisecracking captain. Or pilot rather.

SPEAKER_00 36:12

She doesn't need her own app.

SPEAKER_02 36:13

She does that great. She's a great she she yeah, she does she's kind of like did you did you ever watch Voyager?

SPEAKER_00 36:20

Only when you had it on. Is that the did was Whoopi Goldborg in that one?

SPEAKER_02 36:24

No. Oh Goldborg?

SPEAKER_00 36:26

Goldborg?

SPEAKER_02 36:27

Wow. I wonder if she ever I wonder if that's ever a joke. Because she like really has an intimate hatred hate hateful relationship with the Borg. Wow. Gyna, that character? Yeah. It's uh next generation, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 36:39

But wasn't she on another one?

SPEAKER_02 36:40

Whoopi Goldborg. How come I've never been on the book?

SPEAKER_00 36:42

Whoopi Goldborg. Whippy Goldborg.

SPEAKER_02 36:46

Whippy Goldborg. Oh my gosh. She was an Eddie. She was on Tim and Eric, too. Oh, it was Whoopsie.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

Oh, sorry. Yeah. Whoopsie.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

Um anyways, no. Uh what were we talking about? No, no.

SPEAKER_00 36:59

Whippy Voyager. Voyager.

SPEAKER_02 37:00

Voyager. Neelix. Not my favorite character. When they my mom would always say, Oh, I watched Star Trek last night. It was a Nelix episode.

SPEAKER_00 37:10

Has your mom watched these new ones?

SPEAKER_02 37:12

Uh shoot. I I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

IDK.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

IDK.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

I thought that was what you were gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 37:17

But that episode could in in in in in fairness to her and the actress, to the writer and the actress playing Ortega, I don't have her name, but that would be a really tough one to pull off because she's basically doing like castaway for for 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 37:34

Well, she's doing a little bit of character development and plot in fifty minutes.

SPEAKER_02 37:43

Yeah. And also the Gorn, I mean I like where I like the idea that episode the execution was stupid. And that's what I that's that's what the way I feel about most of the episodes in this season.

SPEAKER_00 37:54

Yeah, that's what you said. That's what you said already.

SPEAKER_02 37:55

Yeah. So um I definitely want to watch season four and I'll I'll look forward to it when it comes out. But I I would say I really liked the one episode that was great was uh Did I write it down?

SPEAKER_00 38:09

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 38:11

It was the one where they had the scavengers and they were like an Earth, they were like they were a ship that went out that left Earth like hundreds of years prior.

SPEAKER_05 38:23

Oh yeah, and now we're like well I like the episode.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

But they were like this big crazy overwhelming amalgamation of like superpower that was just killing all sorts of things. But they couldn't figure out they kind of reminded me of um what's the the song with the the the the show with the stupid theme song? Um The Western and only had the season Joss Whedon Westworld? No, Josh Wheaton. Um you can't make me the Firefly The Firefly. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 38:52

You can't take the sky from me.

SPEAKER_02 38:54

I love the one identifier uses the stupid theme song. Yeah. We should cover that. Uh anyways.

SPEAKER_00 39:01

That song.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

The the enemies in that kind of reminded me of these guys, and which was cool. And the thing that bothered me was I just don't understand how they could have had that much progress.

SPEAKER_00 39:15

They couldn't get back.

SPEAKER_02 39:16

You have somebody, you have a you have a a group of people who left Earth pre-warp.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 39:23

Who had no contact with any other alien species who 300 years later, correct fact check me, please. But 300 years later I'll assign one of you four is able to just eat like Vulcans for breakfast. Yeah. Klingons are scared of them, and they're just actually doesn't make sense. They the the difference between pre warp and post warp is like I mean, honestly, they're actually there's probably a physicist and a Star Trek fan who could actually give me a pretty accurate number.

SPEAKER_00 39:51

We should have them on.

SPEAKER_02 39:56

It's almost too deep for that was my favorite episode of the season, but that was my biggest issue. With that upstairs.

SPEAKER_00 40:00

We were pretty mad about that. I was like, Was I actually mad about it? I distinctly remember being like, none of this could happen. You know why none of this is real? Why? Why, Swallow Boy?

SPEAKER_02 40:14

Because of the same reason I was mad the last time I got mad at Star Trek. Oh, the last time I was mad after Star Trek is because I was talking with with uh Chad GPT about it, and Chad GPT was arguing with me.

SPEAKER_00 40:24

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_02 40:25

And it was saying it was basically saying I was wrong, and you you know that's not right.

SPEAKER_00 40:29

You know that isn't right.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

You know that ain't right.

SPEAKER_00 40:31

Alright, quickly, next.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

Earl Clue.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

Alright, I listened to the entire thing several times.

SPEAKER_02 40:39

What?

SPEAKER_00 40:40

Now I will say I didn't just dedicate all of my attention to listening to it.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

You listened to the whole thing several times. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 40:47

Whoa. The funniest part was when I was listening to it in the car for the first time, and the kids were both in the car with me singing along to every note, and I was like, you guys know this? Like, yeah, we've heard this a million times on the way of school.

Strange New Worlds S3: Hits And Misses

SPEAKER_02 40:59

So I'm a huge Earl Clue fan.

SPEAKER_00 41:01

So I well, I liked it a lot. I thought it was totally fine. I probably indoctrinated a little bit by you. And I also really liked that the kids were singing along. It was cute.

SPEAKER_01 41:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 41:11

Um and Rainbow Man is just like a really cheerful little uh ditty. I So I thought of I don't feel passionately about it, but I liked it.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

Understand. Well, the song I think it it only has like a meta review of like two and a half stars.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Like it's not doesn't seem right. Out of three stars?

SPEAKER_02 41:33

Yeah, nice. Out of two and a half.

SPEAKER_00 41:35

Oh, oh, okay. Well by it, maybe a two.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

It's the universal standard. Here in America, we're just we just gotta be different and have five.

SPEAKER_00 41:42

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 41:43

Um we're so used to five. The rest of the world's fine with two and a half.

SPEAKER_05 41:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:47

Uh so it is yeah, it's not like a brilliant album, and honestly, it's extremely difficult. Oh, I think it is a brilliant album, but it's not widely regarded. Like it's there's not a lot of information on it. Like, I wanted to get there's some info, but I I don't I I didn't even bother. I don't have a track list in front of me, I don't have the players on it. I just love I love her old clue. I he's like Biggie Smalls for me. Where even if the song, even if I don't love the song, his part is always great. Yeah, it's just even if it's not his best, it's still great. Like it's just there's something about that dude when he plays. I'm like some of these songs on this album. I don't know about your opinion, but they start off kind of like okay, like this is you know, bop, bop, bop, type, type, type, whatever it is I'm doing.

SPEAKER_00 42:36

But it goes.

SPEAKER_02 42:37

But then he comes in, yeah, and he just makes it very solid. He he what do you what do you think? I mean, I know I sound like I want to marry.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

Yeah, I don't have I didn't listen to it closely enough to be like technically like, well, I listened to this song and I noticed this at this time. I didn't. I just liked it enough to keep it on while I was doing other stuff.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

Yeah. Um I the reason I even thought about it.

SPEAKER_00 42:58

I liked it enough to not switch off music because I often don't listen to music when I am alone in the car and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

Hmm.

unknown 43:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:07

Well, I don't ever listen to instrumental music, ever. But ever, ever? Ever, ever.

unknown 43:13

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 43:14

I know. I like it.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

I didn't used to either until I started working when grew up. Needing to work in a room with uh with loud people, or just just with a lot going on and what I had to really think.

SPEAKER_05 43:26

So I'd put a beginning band.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

I'd put uh six or eight beginning band.

SPEAKER_05 43:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

Yeah, exactly. But I'd put music on, uh headphones on. Or if I wanted to listen to music while you guys were sleeping and I was working on it.

SPEAKER_00 43:36

I do remember that.

SPEAKER_03 43:37

I'd put these put I put these things called headphones on my these on these things on my head called ears. Yeah. I'd put two well first I tried with two microphones and my nose.

SPEAKER_02 43:47

That was Sally. Alright. Anyways, whatever. No one cares how I got to instrumentals. I'll talk about some other time. But I love them. Um what I was gonna say was I this isn't what I was gonna say, but have have you ever seen what Earl Clue looks like?

SPEAKER_00 44:03

No. Is he a sweet baby boy?

SPEAKER_02 44:05

He looks like a sweet baby boy.

SPEAKER_00 44:07

I'm gonna look him up right now.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

He looks like um Rashawn Hammond, kind of I don't know who that is. Thudbutt from Hook. Oh except he looks like Rashawn Hammond now, like skinnier.

SPEAKER_00 44:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:21

He kind of looks like almost like a little like a mix. He kind of looks like a uh a very like a stoic Webster.

SPEAKER_00 44:29

Look at that picture. That's a stoic Webster of Ever Dead Seas.

SPEAKER_02 44:33

Anyways, um I wanna I want to see he does look like a sweet baby boy. Does he?

SPEAKER_00 44:38

Aww, or all.

SPEAKER_02 44:39

He's he's aged well.

SPEAKER_00 44:40

Um, but he has d he has Uncle Dan eyebrows. He does. He does. Uncle Dan, go check it out.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

I I uh I heard about uh the reason I wanted wanted to uh talk about him, that album in particular, is because I saw a uh there's a headline that said that if you botanists had found that if you played this album for plants They grow so fast? No, they grow sprinkles.

SPEAKER_00 45:06

You love sprinkles.

SPEAKER_02 45:07

I wrote a joke.

SPEAKER_00 45:08

Oh my gosh. Is that was that the punch that's gonna be?

SPEAKER_02 45:12

Doesn't it seem like that might be true?

SPEAKER_00 45:13

Yeah. It's a very it's a very treaty song.

SPEAKER_02 45:17

It's also just like the idea of plants with sprinkles on them and you shake a tree and then they just fall off into your mouth. If they could find like a uh like a marijuana grower who could find a way to grow actual sprinkles on buds, I bet that'd be probably a hit.

SPEAKER_00 45:32

Do you think it's one of the 14 people that have subscribed? Would know?

SPEAKER_02 45:37

Yeah, I bet one of them would for sure.

SPEAKER_00 45:38

Just real quick, I just want to check in with you on how much you're enjoying this freedom of movement.

SPEAKER_02 45:43

Quite a bit. I could do this in my chair, my ADD chair.

SPEAKER_00 45:47

Well, I have somewhere to put my arms and I don't have to keep worrying about my posture because uh when I watch back the videos of us, I'm like like looking a turtle.

SPEAKER_02 45:55

Me too.

SPEAKER_00 45:56

I don't care. It's fine.

SPEAKER_02 45:56

If you don't have to be a few minutes, you can't even see my face, and the other ones I'm like I'm like this. Well, yeah, tough it was to make a thumbnail.

SPEAKER_00 46:01

There's like clothes.

SPEAKER_02 46:03

I had to like I had to use AI to make a thumbnail. I had to give it like our family pictures of myself. It was very flattering.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

I looked I look like I didn't know. I do like the one day when you were like, my trace up's a little bigger than that.

SPEAKER_02 46:16

It's true. It was a little bit bigger.

SPEAKER_00 46:18

Um, all right. Next.

SPEAKER_02 46:19

Well, hang on, just a second. Just just a second. I looked into to go in to see him because he only he only plays like this place in Colorado Springs now, and it's a whole jazz weekend.

SPEAKER_00 46:30

We should go.

SPEAKER_02 46:32

It's like two thousand dollars a ticket.

SPEAKER_00 46:34

It's a guy kind of thing. Does it include your room?

SPEAKER_02 46:37

Bob James was there one time.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

Does it include your room?

SPEAKER_02 46:39

And I think so.

SPEAKER_00 46:41

Uh I think so.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

That's a lot. That's not even I'm not even considering. I stopped looking. Um but you know, whatever. I I I didn't really g get into the details. There may be other ways around it. Just real quick, did you have any favorites?

SPEAKER_00 46:54

No. Rainbow Man.

SPEAKER_02 46:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 46:56

Um that's the only one I like purposely sought out.

SPEAKER_02 46:59

Just pretend was the first one some other time. I wrote it like that one a lot. Moonlight Dancing is is fantastic. I'd say my favorite, my favorite, uh he did an album with Bob James one time called One on One. And he did an album with George Benson, and those two albums are phenomenal. If you like this album, those are I would say even better. But, anyways, thank you very much for listening to it.

SPEAKER_00 47:23

You're welcome. And uh Stay tuned for more of the stuff.

SPEAKER_02 47:27

We'll listen to Lester Young and Oscar Peterson's album next time.

SPEAKER_00 47:30

All right, what's next?

SPEAKER_02 47:31

Uh do we want to talk about community episode at all?

SPEAKER_00 47:35

Well, is there anything else?

SPEAKER_02 47:37

What were the options I gave you? I said 3i Atlas. Do you have any new information?

SPEAKER_00 47:42

I don't have anything new about 3I Atlas other than what you and I talked about together.

SPEAKER_02 47:46

How are we doing on time?

SPEAKER_00 47:48

I think we started at about 6, if it's 642.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

You want to move let's move on to the topic.

SPEAKER_00 47:53

Okay, but I'll I had a few things, but it's okay if you don't want to hear them.

SPEAKER_02 47:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I of course do.

SPEAKER_00 47:57

See, see, remember when I had the top one, I was like, I don't have much. I was like, you have so much. And then he just talked over.

SPEAKER_02 48:02

I'm I'm I'm nervous about the time.

SPEAKER_00 48:05

You shouldn't be. Um I just wanted to say that I started reading Flatland.

SPEAKER_02 48:10

Oh, you did?

SPEAKER_00 48:11

Yeah. Like maybe 10% into it.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

Do you want to run away?

SPEAKER_00 48:15

I don't want to run away. I want to I want to buckle down and get it done so we can watch a movie.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

You should if you if you if you'd like to just this is this is like a standing rule right now. I'm just putting it out there.

SPEAKER_00 48:26

I know I'm allowed to quit things.

SPEAKER_02 48:27

You're allowed to quit things. As long as you remember why and can talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 48:31

I don't like to quit things.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 48:33

So, okay. And then I've been listening to because this is gonna come out in January, but I've been listening to Christmas music because today is December 23rd. And I've really I've nailed I've nailed down what is Christmas music to me. One of them is the Neil Diamond Christmas album, volume two. And that one is more sentimental than anything because my mom used to listen to it all the time. And like I said, my family used to joke about how it was Jewish, Jewish and had a Christmas album, and I didn't understand what that meant. So I didn't know anything about what a Christmas album was. Right. Um, but he has one song on there called Little Mary's Little Boy Child.

SPEAKER_02 49:12

Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 49:12

Will you listen to it? Tell me how you feel about it.

SPEAKER_02 49:15

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 49:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 49:16

And then the other one Mary's Little Boy Child?

SPEAKER_00 49:18

Yeah. I think so.

SPEAKER_02 49:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 49:22

Mary's Little Boy Child. Now I gotta look it up, make sure that's what it's called.

SPEAKER_02 49:25

No, no, no. I'll I'll I'll I'll dig that up. Hopefully it doesn't take me to a terrible corner of the internet.

SPEAKER_00 49:30

Mary's Little Boy Child. That's what it's called.

SPEAKER_02 49:32

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 49:33

It might be my favorite one on the album.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

I'll check it out.

SPEAKER_00 49:36

It's so ridiculous. It doesn't sound good. Okay, but then the other one that I feel like really sounds like Christmas music is uh like Big Band Christmas and Jazz Big Band. So I listened to the Harry Connick Jr. Christmas Essentials playlist on Apple, and it's fantastic, and it features many children's choirs, and it's just delightful, and I'd highly recommend it.

SPEAKER_02 49:57

Does he do baby it's cold outside?

SPEAKER_00 49:58

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 50:00

That they came up. We were trying to figure out if Harry Connick Jr. did it. This is before Corrections Came Corner or I missed it.

SPEAKER_00 50:05

Well, I'm gonna find out right now.

SPEAKER_02 50:07

Cool. Uh Harry Connick Jr. All I'm thinking right now is um uh Independence Day. But I think Harry Connick Jr., you know what I think? What Independence Day?

SPEAKER_00 50:20

Hope floats.

SPEAKER_02 50:21

I think uh I think my mom thinks he's handsome. I think I remember her saying that. I'd say I probably think he's Hamsome. Hamsome is like if a he's a good looking guy.

SPEAKER_00 50:32

Yeah, he's fine.

SPEAKER_02 50:34

But you know what he reminds me of?

SPEAKER_00 50:35

He looks like he's had his jaw broken a few times.

SPEAKER_02 50:37

Reminds me of the dude in Doctor Who, the captain, who's kind of old.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

Oh yeah, that guy's actually cuter. Sorry, Harry. But look at him, he's like looks like he's got his jaw busted a few different times.

SPEAKER_02 50:46

Maybe he has. That makes him cool.

SPEAKER_00 50:47

Maybe that's why he can sing so good. Physics.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

Is that like it was he like had uh he paid some dude in an alley to try to make him sing like Freddie Mercury? The guy's like he's like sing, I said sing.

SPEAKER_00 51:03

Alright, and that's all I had. I did not write that one. That's all I had.

SPEAKER_01 51:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 51:07

Oh, I did start trying to watch I read a book a while ago called The Girl in Cabin Ten or The Woman in Cabin Ten. And then I saw that it's well, it's it's a Netflix movie. I was watching it the other day, and I could not.

SPEAKER_02 51:21

It wasn't good.

SPEAKER_00 51:22

I don't know if it's because I already know how it ends, because it's a thriller, like a mystery, psychological thriller, and I already know the twist. So I couldn't I couldn't do it. So I'm trying to do that. Sorry, Kira Knightley.

SPEAKER_02 51:36

Oh, Kira Kira Knight. Is it Kira?

SPEAKER_00 51:38

It's Carrot. Carrot Knightley. I was gonna say, I think they're related. Oh, honey, I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Kruger's under there?

SPEAKER_00 51:46

I just stepped on the dog hardcore, buddy. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 51:49

Kruber.

SPEAKER_00 51:50

Okay, buddy. Okay. Anyway, let's move on to our topic.

SPEAKER_02 51:53

Yeah, so our top dick is. Our main topic. We've been these are these have all these have been a lot of been a lot of topics.

SPEAKER_00 52:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

What's up, Kruber?

SPEAKER_00 52:03

What's up, dog?

SPEAKER_02 52:04

Watch our YouTube channel if you want to see our dog.

SPEAKER_00 52:06

Yeah, he's a pretty big one.

SPEAKER_02 52:07

Kruber, don't step on the anything.

unknown 52:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:10

Alright, so this we we chose another TV episode to cover. Is this only our second TV episode?

SPEAKER_02 52:16

Well, we did Inner Light, and we did uh we did a Sandman episode.

SPEAKER_00 52:21

So this is the third one. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 52:22

You ever watch a podcast? This is probably the second time I've said this to the point of what I'm about to say. But do you ever listen to a podcast and they're like, Oh yeah, we already did that one. And they're like, What? No, we didn't. When? And they'll be like, oh, episode 948. You know, they're like, oh, okay. And I've I'd sit there and be like, how do they freaking? And now we've only done this is the 16th, and I can't remember what we've done.

SPEAKER_00 52:47

Well, and your mom will, your mom's our biggest fan, and so she'll watch us, she'll watch it, and then she'll text us like very specific questions about things that we said in very offhand packages. Or four weeks ago, because we're because they come out three weeks after we record them, and we'll be like, Oh, I'm sure that was I'm sure we meant like I can't even remember saying what she's asking us about. I also feel like my brain is always broken these days anyway. There's just too much stuff.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

I wish we would do this in the morning where we have coffee. Yeah. Ma'am, I'm snappy when I'm it's not a choice right now. It's just not okay. Someday.

SPEAKER_00 53:21

All right, so we decided to go with an episode of Doctor Who.

SPEAKER_02 53:24

Because we've talked about Doctor Who pretty much every episode.

SPEAKER_00 53:27

I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

I bring it up a few times.

SPEAKER_00 53:29

I love Doctor Who, though.

SPEAKER_02 53:30

I do too. And if I I'm a late comic like I just we just started watching Doctor Who, what, like three years ago?

SPEAKER_00 53:36

Yeah, yeah. We watched them all kind of pretty we devoured them.

SPEAKER_02 53:41

2005 ones. So we well, well, I'll tell you what we've seen. We've seen Matt we've seen we watched it in this order. Matt Smith, I got this from from my buddy Jason, who I may pay Jason to come down here and be like, I'll give you hang up some more moving blankets. If you could come down here, what can you do in slash tell me slash show me for the case?

SPEAKER_00 54:01

Look around the basement. No, just look around the basement. It's gonna be like a home DIY decorating show for uh audio, and he's gonna come in and he's gonna be like, Alright, move these chairs here, get those coats, hang those coats here, line your ceiling with blankets. Yeah, that's what he's gonna do.

SPEAKER_02 54:17

It's like Rob, you need a cape. Leslie, make sure he gets a cape.

SPEAKER_00 54:22

Okay. I don't get uh an outfit.

SPEAKER_02 54:24

You look great.

SPEAKER_00 54:25

Okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 54:26

People have been writing in that I need a cape. Oh, they're like great show so far. Where's the cape? Love the closet, only problem, no cape.

SPEAKER_00 54:35

So Jason recommended the order. We started with Matt Smith.

SPEAKER_02 54:38

Yeah, Matt Smith, and then we watched we did Matt Smith, then Tenant. This was Tenet with the episode we're gonna talk about.

SPEAKER_00 54:46

Peter Capaldi.

SPEAKER_02 54:47

Then Capaldi, and then we watched Eccleston last. Jason said Which one was Eccleston? First uh first season of the reboot.

SPEAKER_00 54:55

What's he look like?

SPEAKER_02 54:57

He well, he was the villain in Gone in Sixty Seconds. He was he he's kind of got a bit of a bit nose on him. Not in a he's not an ugly guy, is he? You need to look at the colour. They're all kind of yeah, it's true. Um I'd say Eccleson's more of Schnaz, tenants more of like a Pinocchio. Although both of those are are hyperbolic, of course.

SPEAKER_00 55:21

Of course. Oh yeah. Yeah, hardly remember him.

SPEAKER_02 55:24

So the reason the reason why we watched what um why I chose to watch Eccleson last is because Jason said they're really good episodes, but the show was super low budget. He said, watch Matt Smith if you've never if you're not used to watching BBC stuff because or or early 2000s BBC stuff because the Doctor Who took off got a big budget. Matt Smith is a great Doctor Who, just go there. It's great advice. He said, but watch Eccleston last because they're great, but you want to do that to be your entrenched in the lore production, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:56

Like you won't care about the production value.

SPEAKER_02 55:58

It's like and it'll answer a bunch of questions.

SPEAKER_00 56:00

And then the Matt Smith one started with Amy, right? Amelia Pond.

SPEAKER_01 56:04

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 56:05

Okay. Alright, so we chose an episode called Blink.

SPEAKER_01 56:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 56:10

I just want to say right off the cuff, should be called Don't Blink.

SPEAKER_02 56:14

Well, I did not do as much research on this as I wish I did, but Don't Blink, isn't that the follow-up episode with Amy?

SPEAKER_00 56:22

Maybe so.

SPEAKER_02 56:24

I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_00 56:25

With Amy? I think she came out. See, when we watch him out of order, then I forgot.

SPEAKER_02 56:30

Right. I I think she's in that's the first one we saw.

SPEAKER_00 56:34

Don't blink.

SPEAKER_02 56:35

I think it's called Don't Blink.

SPEAKER_00 56:36

Um go ahead and we can never know, but I'm gonna give you a synopsis.

SPEAKER_02 56:39

Go give a synopsis, I'm gonna look up a couple things.

SPEAKER_00 56:41

All right, so it it is a Doctor Who episode, although I will just say he's not in it a lot. Um not like he normally is pretty much the cleverly done. Yeah, it was. So, anyways, it opens with this girl. Her name is Sally Sparrow. She's very hot, wouldn't you agree?

SPEAKER_02 56:59

She's she's she's cutie.

SPEAKER_00 57:00

They say she's hot in it, and I just had to write she is hot.

SPEAKER_02 57:03

Yeah, uh Billy, the detective. He was great. That actor, both actors, played Billy well. Anyways, continue.

SPEAKER_00 57:10

So uh anyway, it opens with her breaking into an old rundown house. She sees, does she see something behind some old wallpaper, right? And so she pulls it off and it says her Sally Sparrow duck. Then she rips off more and says, Duck now, and so she does, and then something comes flying through at her head. Um, and she turns around and there's no one there, but she sees a statue of an angel of a weeping angel, as they say, and it has its hands over its face. So then she goes in the middle of the night, wakes up her friend.

SPEAKER_02 57:44

That whole scene, what did that remind? Does that remind you of anything? Where it's unfolding as you go. I I'm trying to I wish I did more prep for this, but the opening scene? Yeah, that where where there's basically something from the past happening, but it's happening with the perfect timing of Yeah, I don't know if it reminds me. And it's always like they can never they I think that what they use, especially later when they have the whole I'm I'm I know I'm jumping ahead, but the DVD part.

SPEAKER_00 58:10

This will be a spoiler.

SPEAKER_02 58:11

Yeah, we'll spoil this. The DVD part, this is by the way, a great standalone episode, so turn us off now and go watch it.

SPEAKER_05 58:18

Yeah, come back.

SPEAKER_02 58:20

And then come back and listen. Um But the DVD part, whether she's going back and forth with them, which I thought was brilliant. I loved that, especially the kickback to or the Uh-huh, but you're what are you what are you? Sorry, what I was trying to say was they do it there where she's going back and forth because she had a transcript. Right, okay. Sorry, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 58:39

I want you to tell it, but then I want to do that.

SPEAKER_02 58:41

This is why you have to be on my podcast.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

Uh-huh. So, anyway, so she goes in the middle of the night to like wake up her friend and be like, Let me type about this really weird thing that happened. I broke into this old house and my name was on the wall, and then it said duck, and I did, and then she's just like, What? So then her brother's also staying with her, like the friend's brother is there, so she just like briefly encounters him in his nudity. And then she takes her friend to the old house during the day, and they're just exploring, and she says something about oh, she's like, Oh, the angel that was there last night has moved. Sally Sparrow says that. And so then the the uh friend is just exploring around the house, and while she's upstairs, there's a knock at the door, and this man comes and delivers a letter. And then you flash back up to the friend.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

The letter What? Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

Then you flash back up to the friend, and you see that the angels are there's more angel statues upstairs and they're closing in on her. Uh, and then they they actually get close to her and touch her, and then um she gets transported back in time to like nineteen twenty, twenty three or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 59:51

Something like that.

SPEAKER_00 59:52

In another part of England. And then they take then they flash right back to the valley. Yeah, I didn't remember any of this. They they 'cause we've seen it, we've already seen it, so don't want to brag, but we've seen it twice now. Um so they flash back to Sally and she's got that letter. Sally. She's reading that lottery and it's from the friend in 1923. She couldn't get back to the regular times, so she lived this entire life and knew that Sally would be at that house with her, and had her grandson promise to deliver this letter at this time to this house to this person. And so she's like, What? This is crazy, this is a setup, and she gets mad.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:34

So Well, that's why I love that they do that in Back to the Future, where Doc writes him a letter and delivers it. Oh my gosh. I I I really, really love that. It's very good.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:46

I forgot that there was any time travel associated with those. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:49

I first much I just remember loving this episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:53

By the way, this has like a 9.8 on IB, something absurdly high. Yeah. It's kind of perfect.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:58

Yeah. So so in the in the letter she says, you know, I've had a great life. The only thing I don't know what to do about it is how to tell my brother, the one that she saw naked the night before. So she's like, I'm gonna go tell Does she I can't remember if she's like that she gets it that it really was her. Because she at first doesn't believe it. But then when she can't find her, then maybe she just buys the little story. But she pretty much goes right to the DVD store where the her brother wor where the brother works, and um she's like, Well, your your sister's gonna be gone for a while, and he's like, Oh, whatever. And then um she notices that the he leaves the room at the DVD store and the TV starts talking to her, and she's like, Can you hear me? And it's Doctor Who on the screen. Oh, she had seen it at Yeah, at the at their house at the friend's house in the night. She had some exposure to it. The brother was already there watching these, so she'd so she reckoned.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:53

He said something that got her attention, but it was never quite exactly right. Yeah. Like the angels. I think that's what it was. He was talking about the angels, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:01

So then um he comes back in, the brother comes back in, he starts explaining like why this the this DVD, it seems like it's talking to you, seems like he can hear you, but it's not, and he's found it on 17 DVDs. And this was it in the store, did he just start watching all the ones in the store? It's like this Easter egg that he kept finding.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:17

Yeah, it's like it's like a 4chan kind of like internet mythos sort of thing where everybody online is is trying to find information out about this thing, and he's like he is a huge conspiracy, like he knows a ton about it. He was a cool character. All the while all the while, by the way, up and up until this point, these angels have been following her.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:38

Right through town.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:39

And I wonder, do you think because they they kind of kill indiscriminately? Do you think they've just been running into people and just like killing people in alleys? Not alleys, whether they they don't kill them, they uh they make them live to death.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:53

That was one of my questions. Do you want me to ask you my questions now or finish the synopsis? No, I don't think I bought it.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:59

Well, let's bring it up now. We I'm not gonna pretend that we have another.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:02

How did the angels Because it was a I haven't gotten to the part where she discovers the phone booth yet. So how why were they fixated on her at all? Or was it not until she was close to the phone booth that they really started following her? And was it just because she'd put herself in that house?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:24

Oh geez.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:26

Anyway, so she goes to the police and that's a great question that I'm a very good thing. Like her her friend went missing at this one house. And so then they take her into this evidence garage where all the cars of everyone who've ever gone missing at that house. So yeah, they were killing indiscriminately there. The angels were. So then she sees the phone booth, and the detective, you know, he likes her and he asks her out and stuff, and he explains, like, you know, we also found this phone booth, this police box, and we don't know we can't do anything with it, can't get in, key doesn't work. And she'd also taken a key from a statue earlier in the beginning.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:02

So she had a random key. So she leaves, and when he turns back around, the statues are surrounding the police box. And then when he looks away or blinks, then they get him, and then he's transported back to the 60s, where he then encounters the doctor.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:21

The doctor and uh Martha.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:23

Martha. Did you look up her name or did he say it?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:26

His companion of the moment.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:28

Mm-hmm. Martha was cool. I liked her.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:30

I have I Amy, she's my first NS.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:34

Yeah, also she's been probably the most famous.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:37

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:37

From Doctor Who? I mean, she was in uh Guardians.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:41

She was in Jumanji.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:42

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:43

She said she had a pretty good career. I can't cannot remember the actress's name. But anyways, um, continue.

Instrumentals, Earl Klugh, And Jazz Tangents

SPEAKER_00 1:04:50

So anyway, she realizes that she has this key, so she goes back into the evidence garage and he's gone. And also the angels are gone. So she doesn't know what happened to him. She never hears from him, never sees him again, but like until later that day. Then she ends up going back to the brother and says, Let's go to the back to the abandoned house and bring your DVD player, and then he like basically plays her the whole thing and she talks to it.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:18

Real time.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:19

And he's writing down her response because he has written the transcript of what the doctor has been saying, and then he writes down what she's saying, and then he gives it to her.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:27

I like that they went through the trouble to to say that he knew shorthand to make it a little bit more believable.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:34

Yeah. Yeah, she totally looks over. She's like, You know shorthand.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:36

My mom knew uh my mom knew shorthand.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:38

Oh wow, that's cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:39

She was uh I guess he had to be do that to be a secretary. She was secretary for the New York Jets. That's amazing. I think 79, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:47

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:48

Anyways, moving on.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:49

I don't want to talk more about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:51

Do you?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:51

Well, sometime. Oh, sometime. I've already talked about it a lot.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:53

For sure. I'll get some more information on it.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:55

Yeah. It's pretty cool. Um you'll have to find out like who was uh on the team and stuff at that time.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:00

I know I don't know anything about football or the Jets or late or bad Jets teams. I don't think they're the greatest thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:07

How would you know?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:08

Right. My mom knew them.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:09

So anyway, um and so then there's a joke there somewhere. So then he tells her about the angel statues and he says they are quantum locked.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:21

Locked.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:22

And if you're looking at them, they are stone. But as soon as you look away or blink, then they can move, which is when they can and they want to consume your they send you to the past and then they consume all the energy of the days that you might have had.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:38

It's a great concept.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:39

I gotta say, I didn't understand that the first time we watched that, but since I've been falling asleep to your quantum physics lectures, you've been not that you've been giving, but that you've been listening to. Right. And I knew I totally as soon as you said that, I was like, I understand what that means.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:54

I think I'm on like lecture 19 of the physics of time.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:58

Yeah. I was like, I understand what that means. It's something until you look at it, and then it's it it can be both things until you look at it, and now it's one thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:07

And I I only know quantum mechanics to the degree of thinking that this is cool because I sort of undercover. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:17

And so it's creepy because it's like you have to blink, right? You have to blink your eyes eventually.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:21

Well, you know what I was thinking, and then I chickened out, was that I do this episode. Well, I try to see how long I can go without blinking while we talk.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:32

It's kind of gimmicky, try it.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:34

It's making me uncomfortable, but I guess it's a good idea.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:35

Well, I'm just gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:36

Okay. Um I'm not gonna be able to look at the bottom.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:39

I know you're not gonna kill me if I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:41

So anyway. Basically, she gets she realizes how do they end up back at the police box? Um Yeah, this is not gonna go well. You can't even know.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:54

I'm not gonna be able to talk. I won't be able to think. It should be called think.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:58

So they work it out, they they get all the information about the angel statues and stuff, and they're all freaked out, but they end up back at the police box and they're like, um, oh, she gets a phone call from Billy, the detective who disappeared.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:11

Yeah, as a old man.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:13

He's an old man now, and he had run into the doctor, and the doctor was like, The angels have our box. We cannot, we're stuck in the 60s because the angels sent us back. They have our my they have my time machine. What's it called?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:24

The TARDIS.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:25

The TARDIS. They have the TARDIS, and he can't get to it because he's stuck in the 60s and can't time travel without the TARDIS. Or travel i anyway. And he can't see without his glasses. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:36

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:37

Why?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:38

My girl.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:39

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:39

When Macaulay Calkin dies.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:41

What's that have to do with this?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:42

It's just when when he can't when anytime I hear the anytime I hear anytime I hear he can't without I think he can't see without his glasses.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:50

Oh, because she's running to give him his dead body, those glasses. Sorry, no, there's boiling there.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:55

Can can Macaulay Calkin's character from My Girl before.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:58

In our concert can Michael Jackson? Michael Jackson's.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:02

Michael Jackson will definitely be there if Macaulay's there.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:04

I was gonna say, because you give them a private theater box.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:07

The dog on Macaulay Calkin's mind.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:10

He's still alive and doing fine.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:12

The dog on Corey Feldman's mind.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:14

We should probably stop that line of singing.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:16

I think uh Paul McCarty was more of a hame guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:19

I don't know what that is either.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:20

Corey Haim. Oh. Never mind. I'm being stupid. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:23

So anyway, the so she finds out that that Macaulay Calkins in Fallout, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:28

I'm sorry. I think he plays Caesar.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:31

Meets up with a doctor, and the doctor figures out that he needs that he gets he figures out Sally Sparrow, the whole story of Sally Sparrow, right? From Billy, I would have to assume.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:42

I think so.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:44

That's something I didn't quite understand is how the doctor knew who Billy was.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:52

We'll watch it a third time. We'll redo this in episode 600.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:56

They make it, she gets all that information from Billy and then he dies. And it's been hours since she was.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:02

They did that tastefully. It was good. Yeah, they just show up, there's an empty. When the rain stops and she's walking out and there's no more rain.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:08

So she goes back to the police box with the brother, Larry. And the angels are and they get the police box sent back. The TARDIS gets sent back to the Doctor Who, but it leaves them behind and they are encircled with these ever closing in angels.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:25

After a rather terrifying scene in a basement of that abandoned house, which doesn't really matter too much to the plot.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:32

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:33

But what happens to the angels is he said it they always keep their faces covered because if they look at each other, nothing can see them or they stay turned they turn to stone. And so what happened is they were surrounding the TARDIS, and when the TARDIS disappeared, they were all looking at each other, and so they died, and they were no longer a threat to them. So that's how they got out. So then a year later, she's agonizing over how did the doctor know what she was going to say on the DVD. And then she sees him run by outside, and he has no idea who she is because in his timeline they have not met. And she realizes that this is when he gets the transcript, and she gives it to him, and then that's how it all happens, which is, I'm sure, scratched a huge time traveling itch for you.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:22

Oh, it was awesome. The whole thing was it was very good. It's a phenomenal episode. I in really good synopsis, mate. I d this show just the audience wouldn't like it, just wouldn't have a synopsis.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:37

You guys would be like, we don't know what he's talking about.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:38

I would just start on the topic and then wind up in some talking about Bobaverse or something. If what I'm talking about, Magic 2.0. Which I started listening to again, and you're gonna listen to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:49

Yeah, I couldn't find it, so I often have to listen to it when you're done.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:52

We'll figure it out. I'll give you my Audible account.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:55

Um so Don't tell Audible.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:58

The other episodes, by the way, I did look them up. Uh Blink, obviously, Time of Angels and Flesh and Stone. That's the two-part story with uh Smith and Amy Pond. And then Angels Take Manhattan, you remember that one?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:13

Which I think is a little Was that kind of a noir one?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:16

Yeah, I think it was. They were gigantic. It was kind of like Staff of Marshmallow Man meets uh Jason Seven or whatever one that was Friday 13th. And the Village of Angels was another one. Um I mentioned in some other ones, but I won't get into it. Was this the first one? This was the first one.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:34

So basically they're in they are actually aliens.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:38

Um everything's always aliens. All the scary ghosts and everything.

unknown 1:12:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:46

Always aliens.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:47

I said it was a good mix of sci-fi and thriller, like time travel. And I wish to Doctor Who was in it more, but it works for the storyline that he's not.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:54

This was uh yeah, no, it 100%. Yeah, those are all points I wanted to wanted to talk about. I don't I are there I didn't look it look it up. Can you think of any other episodes where he's not really featured?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:09

We watched them all so fast. I can't. I mean I remembered things about that episode, but it was almost like watching it again for the first time. It was sort of like when we watched um what we just watched, Skyfall, where I said it kind of felt like a warm hug. Because it was like, I know I've seen this, and it feels really good to be watching it again, but I really don't remember anything about it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:31

Yeah. Do you have a favorite doctor?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:34

You know, I don't. I Matt Smith.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:37

We watched the original one too. We haven't seen the other old ones, though.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:41

Was probably my favorite, but I do really like Peter Capaldi when um what's the girl from Sandman?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:50

Oh gosh, what is that exorcist name?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:52

Well, but what's her name in the show? It is her like her.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:00

Talk about her by name.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:01

Her conclusion is gut-wrenching.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:05

And I love him because he's so cranky.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:09

But he's like Claire Claire Oswald played by Jenna Coleman. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:14

Um and I just loved that whole storyline, and it worked well because she was just like this sweet girl, and he was just like this cranky grandpa kind of character, and I liked their dynamics.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:27

That has one of those.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:28

He was never creepy, like you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:31

I think Capaldi's probably my favorite. I love them all, but I think I'd say he's my favorite. We should we we haven't watched any of the any of the other ones. I we should probably check them out. Um the I like the timey whimey.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:47

How about the original?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:48

I say timey whimey all the time.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:50

All the time.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:51

But I like I've always known it's from Doctor Who, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:54

Which one? How about the original clerk at the DVD store? Just like this guy with long hair. He's kind of a jerk.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:01

Oh, yeah, that guy was great. Yeah. Yeah, he's very uh they played the stereotype well.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:09

Um Yeah, it was basically a comic book store with DVDs instead.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:14

The I I I don't understand this. I wrote this down. So that there were the two actors put that played uh Billy. And again, I thought they both did great.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:23

Oh, oh, Billy's a detective.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:25

By the way, do you think Billy was charming or do you think he was coming on too strong? How would you respond to Billy if you were in Amy or not Amy, uh Sally's position? You know he's a police officer.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:38

Yeah. I I probably the way that she handled it was pretty good, where she was like, mm well s maybe.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:47

Maybe.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:48

Yeah. It turned out to be a heck of a guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:51

He did.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:51

Really did. But but anyways, they redubbed the lines to better match. I think the the the younger guy, I can't I don't know, I don't remember which one's which. O Obiora redubbed lines to better match Mahoney's accent. So they did something they really were striving to some sort of realism there.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:12

Was he not English? Yeah, he was gosh, African. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:17

Well, maybe well, you know what? I don't know. I don't get a big thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:19

He wasn't it wasn't a British accent, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:21

No. It was more islandy or African or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:23

Okay.

unknown 1:16:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:25

Um, but this was like a really critically acclaimed episode. It won a Hugo Award, won BAFTA, uh Stephen Moffat won Best Writer Constellation Award uh for best female performance. Um she was in Drive, by the way, Sally Sparrow. Um have I seen that? Carrie Mulligan. Yeah, um, with what's his face?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:49

Oh my gosh. Oh, this was a lot of this.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:51

So but the camera hasn't died. Ryan Gosling.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:55

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:56

Um anything else you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:00

No, but it definitely made me want to watch more rewatch some of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:04

I I guess they did so I I I thought I was wondering if they used like figurines. Because I mean I feel like there'd be like a ton of statues. Statues, yeah, for for the statues. And apparently they didn't. Apparently they just used actresses and prosthetics. More than that. And like digital freeze to like make them super still.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:22

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:23

Yeah, digitally frozen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:24

Good job, BBC.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:25

Seems like a ton of work. I would have used statues.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:27

Doesn't it seem like there's just one TV network in in England? It's the BBC, and there's no other networks.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:33

Yeah, I think we might be just a tad ignorant, but then hey, maybe. I I want to get a Angels Have Phone Book shirt.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:41

Oh. What does that mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:43

They talked about that in the episode. I wrote down Angels Phone Books T-shirt. Yeah, I remember Angels have the phone books.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:51

Angels have the phone books. I don't I remember him saying he has a t-shirt with that on it, but I'm sure that's what he said.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:57

Maybe not. I don't want to look it up. That's okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:01

You can put it in Corrections Corner next to you.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:02

Uh did we already talk about my mom's gift?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:05

How I got her one? Yeah. Yeah. We didn't talk about it, but I got your mom a a statue.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:10

Everybody wants to know that. Hi, mom.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:12

Did you think she faces it backwards when people come over?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:18

I like the the uh the fluttering and like roaring sound effects. Do you think they would actually make that noise? Since they were moving.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:26

They'd have to make some sort of noise.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:28

Yeah. But you know, it'd be like a or a brrrrrrr. Like, was that just for us? Or were they actually making that noise?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:36

I don't know. You know, this is we're having this conversation with our daughter about how space is quiet, but they but it still make things are making vibrations, and so they can turn it into sound because they have the vibration frequencies. So it's like, you know, if a tree falls in the woods, no one's there to hear it. Does it make a noise?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:53

We were there to hear it.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:55

But because somebody's being attacked, they can hear it.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:59

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:00

Right?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:01

Well, at the very end. So were they dead, dead?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:07

Well, I don't know because they were locked in that quantum locked state because they were always gonna be looking at each other forever, so essentially dead, yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:14

Here is what the only if I were gonna like pick one thing to gripe about.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:19

About this highly ranked Hugo Award winning episode.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:25

Is when they just figured it out. Sally Sparrow and uh I can't what's the guy's name?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:30

Larry? The boyfriend, the brother? Yeah, yeah, Leroy. Is it Larry? Lawrence Larry.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:35

Nice, like a good Larry. Um Clark was almost our son was almost Bruce Leeroy. He was not, and that's not Larry of Barry Gordy's Last Dragon.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:46

And it's two family names, Bruce and Leroy.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:49

But not any of them were from my family.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:52

So anyways, what was I gonna say?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:55

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:56

Oh my gosh. Okay, so at the end, when they figure it out. They got the four angels. They maybe killed them. Me personally, if I was Larry in that situation.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:07

I wouldn't just be like, I think it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:09

Yeah, I would be like, oh, they saw each other, so that I'd be like, okay, but right now we need to make sure they're still looking at each other. Because are they is it like it gets them and then they're dead? I would be like, no one come anywhere near this thing ever until I find the doctor, whoever this guy is. Yeah. And he can explain this. Sure. You know what I mean? I feel like they'd kind of just let that go too easily.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:32

I I could see both viewpoints. I feel like the doctor said explicitly that if they're seen, they can't move. So Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:43

I'd have to get a second.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:44

It's a leap of faith for sure, if if you're just a regular guy off the street like Larry.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:48

I'd live I wouldn't be able to sleep.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:50

They're coming for you.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:52

Uh I I like the very end sequence when they just show statues all over the city and they're like implying that any statue could be these creatures.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:00

Yeah. I think they also sort of implied maybe that it was a gonna be a more more to that storyline. I'm trying to see if there's anything else I wanted to talk about. I think we're good. How much time do we have to talk about the girl is mine?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:13

I would say maybe 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:16

You wanna do it?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:17

Let's do it, baby. I chose it.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:20

Yes, you did.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:21

I'll I'll I'll do a little opener.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:23

Do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:23

So I was late to the Michael Jackson Discovery Party. It wasn't until I was a junior or senior in high school that I kind of really ever even started listening to any Michael Jackson. And my friend Renee and Julie, the three of us just we fell deeply in love with him and we listened to all of his music all the time. We had everything memorized. Uh and this girl is mine. We played it all the time. We asked for it at the dance, and the DJ was like But he played it anyway, because he was our math teacher. He was nice. Nice guy. Very nice. Um, and it just lived in my heart, just deep in my heart.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:03

So so so how long sorry, what how old were you when you first heard the song?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:06

So let's say 17. 17. 16 or 17. But at that point it had been out since what? I'll look it up. 82.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:12

82. And uh what what was that? 2000? Night.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:17

99, 2000, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:19

So it was like close to a 20-year-old song, and I was like, love this song. Yeah, it's a uh So just a shout-out to those girls if they ever decide to listen.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:28

A lot of people I've oh I've heard people consider it to be the weakest song on the album.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:33

Well, I have some information about that. I'd like to know.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:36

Okay, so the album, by the way, being thriller. Yeah, thriller. Okay, so is it thhriller?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:43

It it is thhriller. Thriller. Carrot thhriller. Hold on, I gotta get I I really went down a rabbit hole. I gotta get back to the top. Okay, so it was written by uh Michael Jackson. He wrote all of his stuff for them.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:58

He wrote a ton of his stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:59

Yeah, which I was surprised to hear. Uh he didn't write girlfriend. Small-minded purple person, purple person.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:06

Girlfriend, all off the wall, girlfriend, Paul McCartney was a wing song.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:10

That's how they oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:12

Kind of maybe one of their first interactions.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:14

So Quincy Jones, of course, produced it.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:16

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:17

And it definitely came out like people were like, this isn't that great. Like, why did you lead off Thriller with that? Um, but but Quincy Jones's purpose in doing that was to sort of soften everybody up because what was coming was incredibly edgy and different.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:38

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:39

And they were they were expecting whatever to come next to the radio to be more like that. Like all of them to be kind of fun, soft ballads like that, like little jazzy tunes like that. And then the next one, I think, that came out was not sure. Oh, uh, Billy Jean. Beat It.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:59

This is the next single?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:00

Those were yeah, the well, the Girl of Mine was first. I don't know actually what came next, but it was like, I think it was either Billy Jean or Beat It.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:06

True. Beat It was We're gonna talk about Beat It at all. Did you have anything to say about Beat It?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:12

I don't have anything to say about it really, but I mean like the it was a bit.

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SPEAKER_02 1:24:16

Well, both of those songs are like a bit harsher, real world uh Billy Jean and like subject matter and well Beat It, I I heard I I couldn't I I I only saw this written in one place. Um but so Steve Lucather, I think I'm saying his name, right? I've only ever read it. He's the guitar, he's the lead guitar player, he's all over this thing. He's played with Toto, he's a phenomenal guitar player. Um He he they got offered, I guess Quincy Jones or Michael Jackson, one of the two, probably both of them, offered him the Eddie Van Halen solo on Beat It. And like, because he could have totally crushed it, but he said, You need to find I'm not the right guy for the solo, according to legend.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:00

He said, I'm not the right guy for the solo. You need you need something that's going to scare people. So they went and they got Eddie Eddie Van Halen to do it. And it's a when you hear it told like that, it makes a lot of sense. That solo's freaking great.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:14

And kind of as a counterpart to that, back to the why he went with The Girl's Mind first, it said that the song has no aggressive groove, so like black artists were still struggling to break into mainstream.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:26

Earl sounds like freaking Earl Clue LA LA soda pop candy scoop.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:31

It had no sexual undertones, it was like very just like lighthearted, and no heavy funk or rock elements, so it was nearly impossible for the radios to reject it. So it's like once everybody loved that song. Yeah, once everybody loved it, he said he intentionally misled them. And um it made the later singles hit even harder, and they say it's more of a strategic chess move seen in retrospect than at the time people were like, What?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:00

That's a gamble, that's a huge gamble too, though. Because Michael Jackson wasn't like he was pretty huge at the time, but nowhere near Michael Jackson huge. You know?

SPEAKER_05 1:26:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:14

Nowhere dear nowhere near marrying Elvis' daughter huge.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:18

Right. That's quite a connection. I did not do that on purpose. Wow, whoa, full sort of thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:26

Two uh you're not gonna believe it. This music podcast talked about Elvis and Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:34

Ruber, what is it? Oh, sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry, forgot. So everybody. Sorry, I made the dog bark and I have to pet it out of him.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:43

Do you have a uh do you want are you do you want to say anything more about Thriller?

unknown 1:26:46

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:47

The album?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:47

No, it's a great album.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:48

Do you have a favorite song on Thriller? Is this it?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:50

Uh you know what? What album is uh Annie Are You Okay on?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:56

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:57

Because that's one of my favorite Michael Jackson songs. Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:00

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:01

I don't either. We can't find out.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:03

Too bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:03

But um stay tuned next week. I uh but off this album, probably. Um I don't know, Billy Jean or beat it. Billy Jean is a great song.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:19

It is a great song. It's really hard to go wrong. What about Thriller itself?

SPEAKER_00 1:27:23

Love Thriller. Love the video. Remember when you bought me all the DVD video music videos because you loved me so much.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:29

I do remember that.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:30

I used to show them at work. Do you remember that?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:32

I remember yeah, now that you mention it.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:34

When I worked in the psych hospital, I had to run evening groups, and it was like no one ever wanted to come to them because it was like they've just been in psychiatric groups all day long. And so I would just put those Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:44

Yeah, it had like um Do you remember the time? I guess I could just say the name of the song.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:50

Yeah, you have to sing it.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:50

I don't know I don't know if it's possible to refer to that song without singing it.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:54

No. Do you remember the time? Because it sounds like you're talking.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:57

But uh I would say my favorite song. So this is weird because it's probably my favorite song on the album, but not his version. But he's the he's the original. I don't think he wrote this one, but it's called Lady Lady in My Life.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:11

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:12

It's kind of like a It's a ballad. Lady It's uh no, it's You A Not Alone. Lady in My Life.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:18

Yeah, yeah. Well, that doesn't do anything for me.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:23

So the reason I like it so much is I actually heard Well, Stanley Jordan does an amazing version of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:31

Oh, your buddy.

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SPEAKER_02 1:28:32

Stanley Jordan said if you don't know Stanley Jordan, he's a uh strange solo virtuoso jazz guitar player, who plays actually a lot like Eddie Van Halen with a two-hand tap, except he plays like pretty much exclusively that way. Um he did this album called Magic Touch, and Magic Touch, I don't know if I've wrote when it came out, but when I went and saw Stanley Jordan, he addressed that song and he said that Thriller, he said Thriller helped his album sales so much. He said that they actually pulled one hundredth of the revenue that Thriller did.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:11

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:12

And he said it like he said it, it was the greatest, probably the greatest humble brag of all time because he said it to be a joke, because it's obviously he's like obviously a hundredth of Michael Jackson's commercial success. Yeah. But he's saying, like, but but then you start you thinking, how much money was that?

SPEAKER_00 1:29:28

It had to be a ton.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:29

Yeah. So he it definitely, I mean, definitely put him on the mat for me to go sing. I mean, it his his cover is phenomenal. It's a it's an instrumental. George Benson does a sick cover of it as well. It's a little more straight, a little like a little, a little truer to the song. Um, anyways, we're not doing a lady in my life episode, but I do I do love that song.

unknown 1:29:51

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:51

And this album's great. We're never doing it. I listened to it a lot this week.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:54

And it was a duet so we could both sing together, and I love to sing with you.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:58

Can I just say the number one, I do love singing with you too. I like being with you. And that is a way to do it. I like I felt like this week was really good for my brain.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:08

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:08

You might say.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:20

I wonder why.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:23

Well, I don't know, I didn't know the song that well. First of all, I've always been more of a say say say guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:29

Not me. I'm a girl's mind guy. I'm a girl, I'm a guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:33

I really do like this song. I honestly do. Um, but it I like say say say a little bit more. But, anyways, I I haven't listened to this a ton. I don't have quite the relationship with it that you do. I don't, I've never. It's really important that you get vocals right on this song. Paul McCartney comes in. I was mainly doing Paul, uh, for those who haven't heard the cover. Paul McCartney comes in with notes that I just do not feel comfortable hitting, and it's hard for me to find them. And but it's really important to do it. Well, sort of. He's got a he really I don't I'm trying to think of a s of a Paul McCartney song.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:11

It sounds anything like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:12

It showcases his voice as much as this does. His range is incredible.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:15

Yeah, it's a great song.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:17

And he was kind of called. He was kind of like um, he didn't play bass on this, by the way. Um uh who did? Lewis Lewis, somebody.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:27

Um Todo?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:28

Was it Lewis Mahoney? It was Toto, yeah, it was I'm sorry, Toto. What did I say, Lewis? No, Lewis, uh Lewis Mahoney was Billy. Billy. He was Billy. I'm looking at the roller bill. Lewis Mahoney's like, yeah, I was on thriller. Pretty lady or hot lady.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:44

Um still hot.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:47

Uh what keep he said that the the part at the end where he's talking about um where they're doing the back and forth talking crap. Like, what how do you feel about that part?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:59

It is it gave birth to the most iconic, I'm a lover, not a fighter.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:05

How can you I thought Uncle Jesse said that. From Michael Jackson stole it from Foolhouse.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:12

Or somebody else. You always have to clarify which Uncle Jesse you're talking about because I one time Uncle Dan said something to me about Uncle Jesse, and I was unaware of the Uncle Jesse from Dukes of Hazard. And he sold me, he told me of my overalls. He said, You look like Uncle Jesse. And I was like, Uncle Jesse wears overalls? He was like, What are you talking about? I'm like, from Full House? He was like, No, not that Uncle Jesse.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:35

I thought that I thought Uncle Jesse said, I'm a lover, not a fighter sometimes. Maybe maybe it was Dave Coulier.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:42

Well, he but that was after Metal James.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:44

When Alanis Morriset was trying to Elenus.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:48

We're gonna do an Elena's song.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:50

You've you've threatened it. Louis Johnson played bass.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:54

Oh, okay. It wasn't Toto. It was not uh or Paul. Paul Legismitted.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:59

Um I'm sorry, what was that name again? Wow. It's a beautiful name. Is that Norwegian? Oh my gosh. Um yeah, so what parts of the song, let me let me let me go ahead and you can you can have a have a little giggle there. The what what the parts of this song that were the trickiest for me to do was well, number one a lot. That little back and forth, because talking, trying to like kind of act, yeah, so to speak. I mean, that's kind of what that was. I mean you mean the talking part of the it's a stupid part, but it is it's it's so bad it's good, kind of stupid.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:41

It's the best.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:42

Apparently, Paul McCartney didn't want to do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:44

Paul, shut up.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:47

Did you know how the I love feeling it might have actually been kind of perturbed? Like while he was like, oh my gosh. He does sound like he's rolling his eyes. There's no video for it, so you can't. There is a video on like YouTube of them like have you seen it? No, it's like Michael. It's Michael Jackson wearing like a McCartney like letter jacket kind of thing. And he's with Linda, and they're there's like a horse, and it's like a home video kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:10

Weird.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:10

And I wonder if that's how we got the uh inspiration for Neverland Ranch.

unknown 1:34:15

My gosh.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:16

Did you know how they became how they became broken up?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:20

Dude, what the heck, Michael?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:22

So apparently Paul put it in his ear. I mean, that's the story anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:26

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:30

I mean, what better way to get into publishing than buying the Beatles publishing rights?

SPEAKER_00 1:34:34

Well, did you know he was trying to buy it too? Paul was.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:37

Oh, yeah. Well, he was holding out, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:34:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:39

And then Michael swooped in and bought it.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:41

Yeah, like 45 million or I don't know. I think I d I don't know, you know, who who knows really. I I don't think Paul I think Paul, from what I could find, seems to have reacted pretty understandably. Or he's just kind of like disappointed.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:56

You know, like whatever, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:58

I you know, I love his music, and I just don't even know why. Like the kid, the man was raised in probably a fairly traumatic, abusive home. I don't know. Just speculating.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:09

As the story goes.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:10

As they say. So you just don't know what people are gonna turn out to be when their formative years are not normal.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:15

Although I do love his dad's version of uh Steppin' Out Joe Jackson.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:20

You'll know that.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:22

It's not really him.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:23

Uh Joe Jackson did Dow Down into the line. You know?

SPEAKER_02 1:35:32

Yeah. I love that song. We're gonna do that song.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:35

Okay. Um are we ready? Oh, oh, going into the F sharp.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:41

That's like can be ready for me to be stupid?

SPEAKER_00 1:35:44

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:45

That is like hang on, someone's texting me.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:48

Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:48

We turn this in and do not disturb.

unknown 1:35:50

Oh no. Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:52

The F sharp. So can you explain to them what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_00 1:35:57

Well, it's in the key of A. And it briefly borrows the an F sharp major. Should be in a minor. Should be an F sharp minor. It's a borrowed chord.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:08

So, first of all, that's a super interesting part.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:11

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:11

It's about what the third line of the verse, of e of each verse.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:16

It's at the end of each verse.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:17

Yes. But also kind of in the mid sort of in the middle, depending on the verse. Anyway, it doesn't matter. We're we're both talking about the same thing. Um you sing the same way, but you play the F sharp. First of all, it was really, really tough for me to train my brain, and I'm still not 100% convinced I didn't do it. To not sing the F sharp part because I was doing it. Second, I don't like I so I don't sing a lot of songs, so maybe this is a really common thing. But I've there I don't know another way to put it. But the F sharp is almost quote unquote singing a harmony with you.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:53

Well with yourself. I believe that you're singing when the F sharp is playing, I think your the note that you're singing is a D, which would be a minor six, and it's almost like the melody combined with these chords makes a lot of jazz chords.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:12

Okay. Like like relatively speaking?

SPEAKER_00 1:37:14

Like if you were gonna play it without a singer, you would need to be playing whatever the singer was singing. Okay. Even though what the singer is singing is not part of the chord that's being played if you're just looking at a basic triad. It's almost like it makes jazz chords out with the melody. I don't know what I'm talking about, but that's what I think. And that's why I think you can sing something against it that doesn't go with it that still sounds like part of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:37

It's really cool. Once I kind of got it down, I was like, oh, that's really something.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:41

I was gonna say the the very basic structure is just a one-five A-E back and forth, but it doesn't sound like a one-five one. It almost sounds like a one-four one.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:53

I think I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:54

And to the point where I hardly believed that's what it was until I started playing with it. And it really mattered how I voiced it on the keyboard. If I voice it, that means like the order that you play the notes.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:04

I gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:04

If I voiced it a certain way, it didn't sound like the song. I kind of had to stay in a home, what would be called a home position.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:12

So So speaking of playing the positions, I've experimented with a ton of stuff. Like if I didn't have to sing, or if I knew the song super, super well, I probably could have done something more. Not necessarily yeah, I mean, honestly, more. Probably could have worked some sort of bass line in, but I decided, and this is what I'm gonna try to do from this point forward, is just play simple. Play the way that it will be like take take Joe Pass's advice and just play what's easy.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:40

Because if it's easy, then I could, like you said, ri prioritize rhythm. Like the rhythm itself.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:45

When we don't have a rhythm section, which is all every time.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:48

I keep go I keep doing it like this.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:49

Rob's Rob's pretending to play the guitar in case you can't see him.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:53

Uh I hope this could go on YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:55

I mean, I'm really glad and blessed that you can play percussively on a guitar because it really helps songs sound like there's more happening than just the two of us.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:05

Thank you. Unfortunately, it's very difficult for me to not play percussively. Well, that's fine. So on songs that don't need it.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:13

I'll just yell at you. We'll just get into a little bit of a little bit more. You know, I'll say something about how you can't read music to hurt your feelings, and then you'll then we'll sleep on it, and then it'll be better.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:23

Yeah. Uh do it's that will happen, and I look forward to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:30

I feel like we're getting we're closing in on wrapping up.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:32

We will close in in a second. Can I just point one thing out and then we'll go to our categories?

SPEAKER_00 1:39:37

Um tone of voice is a little aggressive.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:40

Two things.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:43

One I just want to point out the way that Michael Jackson apparently works because he doesn't read music either.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:49

Right. Now or from when he was alive.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:52

Yeah, it sounded yeah. He's he can he's come to our concert, by the way, yes. Um we'll have to talk about the concert.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:00

Can he have like his own entrance though?

unknown 1:40:02

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:03

What's he riding in on?

SPEAKER_00 1:40:05

A train? I feel like Or a monkey.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:08

I'm gonna be honest with you.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:10

He's riding in a train where the monkey is the driver.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:12

Yeah, the monkey. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:13

The monkey's the conductor.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:15

I wanted to somehow work it out where he somehow comes in with the cat that dances with Paula Abdul.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:21

I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:23

The animated one. I just feel like I feel like he should have worked with that. That was a misfaction. He should have worked with that cat. He turns into a Black Panther, but Wes Montgomery's already gonna be a Black Panther.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:32

Oh right.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:33

Okay, well we'll have to the Bubbles. That's good.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:36

Yep, bubbles is gonna drive him in on a train.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:38

So Joe Meek used to work the way Child Size Train. Joe Meek was like one of my favorite producers, Child Size Train, right? Is that yeah, we'll leave that alone. As he should have done, and hopefully did.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:49

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:49

Okay, so the Joe do you know Joe Meek? He did Telstar.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:55

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:55

That's like my favorite song of all time, if I had to pick one. Joe Meek used to get like kind of do what apparently Michael Jackson did. Not the uh killing his landlady stuff, but the Joe Meek did. He killed him.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:08

Oh my goodness. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:09

Uh in the next one.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:10

Sidebar.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:11

Yeah. Anyways, we'll talk about Joe Meek some other time.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:14

So we got nothing but time. We got a three-year contract, minimum. Continue.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:19

So I g apparently Michael Jackson used to cut Joe Meek used to be like he was tone deaf. Michael Jackson obviously was not. Right. But he would like make his players like, no, it sounds like this, and they'd have to like sit there and try to figure it out. Anyways, Michael Jackson would do that, except that obviously a much better ear and a great vision. Yeah. And he would, but he would say, like, make the bass walk like a cat. You know, like that kind of stuff. And he would like whisp uh whistle it and hum it and sing it what he wanted him to do until they could do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:51

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:51

Elvis sort of had a little bit of a scene like that. He wasn't quite as directive with it, but he was kind of almost more encouraging and pointing the. I love stuff like that. I think that's the coolest stuff. Not and that's not a middle finger to people who can read music. I'm just saying it's it's funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:06

It's like synaesthesia for you. And then lastly, it was Leslie.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:13

Laszlo. When they say come with me to one town, what is that lyric about?

SPEAKER_00 1:42:21

I thought it was actually Come with Me to Uptown. I think that would make more sense. I think that is what it is, and I think that this ultimate guitar does more wrong. I didn't commit to one.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:32

But he does say you're a vegetable and I hate you, isn't that the lyric from uh Starting Something?

SPEAKER_00 1:42:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:37

PYT, by the way, that's a great table.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:40

Um Boys go to the boys count.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:42

What's that one?

SPEAKER_00 1:42:42

Oh don't stop taking it. That's the same song, right? You're a vegetable. That's don't stop taking enough.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:49

Yeah. So I don't know. I thought I always thought it was Uptown, come with me to Uptown.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:54

I like that better. That works.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:56

And I didn't sing one. I sang, uh, I can let you go ahead and sing the one so that on the cover you'd be the one doing it wrong.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:04

I wanted you to be like, and if you try to go to two towns, or you try to go to three towns. Remember? Then I just said one town. Go with me to one time.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:17

All right. So categories. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:19

Okay. You say first. Who's your dream cover? Well, see, I can't don't say dream. Just say who would you like to have a cover of?

SPEAKER_02 1:43:30

Oh, by the way, Toto, did I already say Toto did the score for Dune.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:33

Yes, you also do a fair amount of Toto. An hour and a half ago you did say it.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:37

Oh, oh, I see what that was. I see what that was. Uh you could do your cover first.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:43

No, I wanted you. I just asked you to do it first.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:44

Well, first of all, a real cover was done by Morgan Heritage. It's a reggae band. It's pretty cool. And the part where they talk back and forth, they go like they got a well, they got like the kind of the Rastafari rap thing going on. But it it sort of works. Okay. It's not bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:02

Morgan Harrington.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:03

Morgan Heritage. Okay. Like a reggae reggae band, I'm assuming. I I I didn't hate it. They're pretty solid. And then I wanted I want to start a nobody cover award. This is a this is a somebody with a cover.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:16

Oh, you said that.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:17

Somebody who's done a cover of a song. I haven't found a lot of covers of this.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:20

Well that's because it's hard, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:22

Again, I hope it doesn't get like docked a strike for copyright books.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:25

We worked so hard on it, it better not.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:27

Lo Van Gore and Jarrett Grant. This is I want to find somebody who had like less than 50,000 views.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:34

It's really, really well done.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:35

Is it two men?

SPEAKER_02 1:44:36

Like, no, it's it was like six people, maybe. It was like it was almost like a like a note-for-note recreation. Oh. But they had a kind of a synth solo at the end, which was pretty it was it was pretty good. I was actually very impressed.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:48

Alright, good job, guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:50

But first I thought maybe Steven Segal and Richard Dawson could do it. That's creepy. Like if if I don't know if Dawson can sing, but if he could. We know Seagal can't.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:00

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:00

Uh if Dawson can't, we auto-tune. Um but I I I decided I wanted to hear the spinners do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:06

Oh, that'd probably be great.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:07

There's the part that where they comes out of the bridge. Or the the bridge where it kind of sounds like the bridge of it's a shame. And it made me think of it. I'm like, you know, the spinners would crush this song.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:18

Both can I and they have a lot of personality.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:22

They both they have a lot of personality in their music too, so they could they could they would have made it awesome. Okay, you?

SPEAKER_00 1:45:27

Elton John and Stevie Wonder.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:31

I mean, I know that's not much of a this is only like ebony and ivory. It just I basically just picked other versions of those people, but it would be great.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:41

I'd a hundred percent love to watch it.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:43

Another British white person.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:45

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:46

Another black singer, American black person.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:49

Totally. From wait.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:52

Similar era?

SPEAKER_02 1:45:53

Yeah, yeah, and also similar area.

Weeping Angels Logic And Time Paradoxes

SPEAKER_00 1:45:55

Yeah. I don't know. I have no idea about that. But so anyway, I thought that would be great.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:00

I mean, I know, anyways.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:02

Umander and Elton John talking to each other at the end. They've done they've never done anything together, but they've performed live together. I looked that up.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:13

Is that on YouTube? You know?

SPEAKER_00 1:46:16

I don't have to ask my buddy Chad where it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:20

Do you have a B side?

SPEAKER_00 1:46:22

I do have a B side.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:23

What is it?

SPEAKER_00 1:46:25

I want you to go first.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:27

Well, I got three. So number one, there's a real B side.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:31

I'm doing good to even get one.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:33

There's a real B side. Oh well, one of them is the real B side.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:36

Yeah, I can't get out of the rain. Do you ever hear that one?

SPEAKER_00 1:46:38

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:39

It's it's I don't think it's on Thriller C P, but I think it's it's in like a thriller anniversary episode, but it's obviously on the single B side.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:49

Why is it what is it about?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:50

No, it it is the actual B side to the single.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:53

I understand that, but what's the song about?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:55

Is it Michael Jackson's? I listened to it. I listened to it today, actually.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:58

What's it called?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:59

Can't get out of the rain.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:00

Yeah, it's Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:01

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:02

But my my it's fine. I liked it okay. Um I hadn't heard it before.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:08

I chose a duet for my B side.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:10

Well, my B side. Well, you could do say say say.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:17

Could.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:18

What about Brandy and Monica?

SPEAKER_00 1:47:20

Oh my gosh. The boy is mine. That's not bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:24

I mean, I thought it's kind of like a That's pretty on the nose.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:27

It's a little cheesy. Uh well that makes me feel better about my choice. Because mine is like kind of relevant to it, but it's just another uh duet that I absolutely love. The original is not a duet, but then they did a performance where they made it a duet. And it's I think it's the best, one of the best duets between two men ever, and it's Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:49

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:50

It's sad.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:53

It is a sad song. We could we could do that sometime.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:58

I don't think we could. I've tried to learn it.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:00

Oh really?

SPEAKER_00 1:48:00

Can't be done.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:02

You know, there's a Mac might there is a Michael Jackson joke there as well. I'm not gonna say it. But uh if you know it, you know it.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:09

Oh my gosh, Robert.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:12

It is a it is it look, I didn't make it up. Well then it's you've heard the jokes that I write.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:17

It's even better.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:18

They're sparkly clean.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:19

Yeah. All right, well.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:21

What soundtrack?

SPEAKER_00 1:48:22

Oh, I forgot about that part. Shoot.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:24

Mm-hmm. You could have one of mine, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:27

Okay, what are your 50?

SPEAKER_02 1:48:31

I only have two.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:32

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:33

Um first I thought Fry and Zap Brannigan over Leela.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:38

Oh, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:39

From Futurama.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:40

I want that one.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:41

I love Zapp Brannigan.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:43

That's a great show, period.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:44

It is a great show. Um I'd be up for watching that again sometime.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:49

Maybe it'll have to make its way back into the road. We never watched it in earnest like we do now.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:54

No, you're right. I like the way you put that too. Thank you. It's a good that's an apt description.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:58

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:59

Uh in honor of our previous topic, Worfen Riker over Lieutenant or Councillor Troy.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:06

Yeah, Deanna Troy. Deanna Troy. Ooh, oh man, those are two very good ones. See, I didn't need to have one. Those are just enough for everyone. Wow, that's really good.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:16

Well, thank you, huh?

SPEAKER_00 1:49:17

And I was just thinking movies. I didn't go down the TV hole.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:21

Yeah, it's, I mean, you could go video games if you want. I think I did something for Tyson's Punch Out one time.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:28

Uh that's really good. Those are really good ones. All right, guys. Well, we appreciate you joining us.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:34

We do very much. Uh why don't you tell them where they could find us?

SPEAKER_00 1:49:36

You can find us on wherever you get your podcasts. And then you can also see us over on the YouTube and our channel in both places. It's called The Audience Won't Like It.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:44

And the only way you can watch our cover, hopefully this so far. The last the 13 I've uploaded have been have been have made it through.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:53

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:54

Uh I still got it, I don't exactly know how that works, but this will be like this is probably the biggest question mark. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:00

Yeah. Um at least we're not trying to do a gart.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:03

Mom, if it doesn't get make it to YouTube, I'll find a way to find a way for you to get it.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:07

And Renee and Julie together.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:08

And Renee and Julie, of course.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:09

All right.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:10

Of course. Okay, well, thank you very much. Uh as the audience won't like it. We are signing off. You have a terrific, merry. I hope you had a Merry Christmas.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:17

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