Intestines, Mints, Vengeance and Curtis Mayfield | Ep 17

Two married hosts riff from holiday movie night to cult-film carnage and back to the velvet soul of Curtis Mayfield, stitching jokes, nostalgia, and real music talk into a warm, chaotic hour. We test why jazz hits live, why spectacle sometimes wins, and why a tender doo-wop melody still floors us.

• show format built around a 50s “waiting in line” conceit
• corrections corner on names, titles, and royal forms of address
• Beatles wordplay and soundtrack albums as genre mixers
• jazz talk on Oscar Peterson with Lester Young, swing vs bebop for focus
• Die Hard with a Vengeance rewatch and buddy-action chemistry
• family board games, telestrations anarchy, and house rules
• SimCity 2000 MIDI nostalgia and why simple scores stick
• New Year resolutions on consistency, workflow, and food waste
• main feature: Ricky O cult-gore tour with subtitles and influence on games
• song segment: the Impressions’ I’m So Proud, arranging with xylophone
• cover versions, dream pairings, and why the original’s restraint wins

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Transcript

Cold Open, Singing, And Setup

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It's the worst part of the story.

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Draw your best ferret.

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Yeah. Clark drew drew a ferret in the corner with like fifteen penises just doing something insane in the corner.

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And I'm like, I'm trying my very best. Looks like I know there's no card that says fifteen penises and a ferret. So I'm just trying my best to extrapolate what the card might have actually said. Ready?

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Two married friends.

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Whoa.

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Wow, it's going from uh proud of you. Here we go.

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You could do it up there. I wasn't stopping you.

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Two married friends. Wow, I can't get that out of my head.

SPEAKER_02 0:48

I'm so proud. Is it because it's an E? Why don't you play a little round of it? E. C sharp minor. There you go.

SPEAKER_06 1:02

Oh, two married friends. In a lid oh in a basement corner room.

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Surrounded by blankets. Oh into microphone. They got in a car crash. She died in his arms. He kissed her lips.

SPEAKER_06 1:47

We did a little voicing shift there. That was uh that was tricky. Shifting out.

SPEAKER_02 1:52

Did you know that you and I just said a little voicing shift?

SPEAKER_06 1:55

We did a voicing shift, yeah. I don't know what that means.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

That means that I sang the lowest note and you sang third above.

SPEAKER_06 2:03

Is it a voicing shift from uh from stereotypes?

SPEAKER_02 2:06

Well, yeah, the soprano literally went lower than the bass.

SPEAKER_06 2:10

Whoa, sorry everybody.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

Oh, is the Tin Man here?

SPEAKER_06 2:13

Now when you say uh a voicing shift, um were you actually like lower than me? Or are you lowered?

SPEAKER_02 2:21

Probably not, but my line crossed below your line.

Show Format And 50s Concert Concept

SPEAKER_06 2:24

Hmm. How do you think this looks? We're uh folks, welcome to the audience won't like it. Uh we we are this is our 17th episode. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 2:33

You're amazing.

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And we're hoping that this is the first one that will actually look passable.

SPEAKER_02 2:41

Well, I mean, last week's was a step in the right direction.

SPEAKER_06 2:44

It was, but you couldn't really see my face. Wow. The week before that we were in slow motion.

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17 weeks before that. Slow motion.

SPEAKER_06 2:50

Couldn't see my face any other time. There have been times where I forgot to record. Um literally.

SPEAKER_02 2:56

You could back up. You probably have an inch or so to back up. I don't seem to seem very loud in my ears. Maybe I but maybe I'm fine. Should I lift it up a little bit?

SPEAKER_06 3:06

Um I think you're I think you're okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:09

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_06 3:11

Why don't you go ahead and tell the good to the good people what this is about and while you're doing that, you know what I'm gonna do?

SPEAKER_02 3:15

Get your list of options ready?

SPEAKER_06 3:17

Well, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna pull up and see. I got the PC on this computer.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

Oh wow, you share screen sharing.

SPEAKER_06 3:24

And uh I want to just make sure it's all recording.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

Alright, well, while you do that, I'll tell everyone welcome to the audience won't like it. This is a podcast hosted by me, Leslie Shoecraft, the wife, and the husband, Rob Shoecraft. We're married. We're hosting a podcast.

SPEAKER_06 3:36

Married indeed, and this is a test, test, and also just a confirmation that we are married.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

We are. It's just a marriage confirmation. It's sort of like a Well, what's what's confirmation? Is that a Catholic thing? We're not Catholic.

SPEAKER_06 3:48

No, but uh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

It's like our version of that.

unknown 3:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

Should we count some beads?

SPEAKER_06 3:53

That's what this podcast is. It's a it's our version of Catholicism. We uh we really swing for the fences on this one.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

Well, making people hate it. Okay, well, anyway, welcome to our podcast. Here's the format you can look forward to. We're waiting in line for a concert.

SPEAKER_06 4:07

Yes, we are.

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And uh this week we're going back to the late fifties.

SPEAKER_06 4:10

We're going to the early 50s. Yeah, 64. I believe.

SPEAKER_02 4:15

Uh a little civil unrest. I'd say so, yeah. Uh and we're in line for a concert, and and we may you may or may not know the person you're in line with, and then you gotta wait till they open the doors. You got there early so you could get a good seat because it's festival seating, probably.

SPEAKER_06 4:29

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

Definitely. That's why you're there so early.

SPEAKER_06 4:32

You think they have festival seating and a segregated show?

unknown 4:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:35

I I guess I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 4:37

I don't know.

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Two different festivals.

Corrections Corner And Pop Culture Grab Bag

SPEAKER_06 4:39

Depends where they're holding it. I guess so. You know, we don't there's no segregation in our uh podcast. We we're also working on uh go ahead and finish what the podcast is about.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

So anyway, you might you might need to, you know, you might have some time to get to know the person you're in line with and or you might be married to them. And so you might cover a few things that you've been into lately, and then you might settle into a longer p uh a longer topic. And uh this week's is a real treat. This week's is a real treat.

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Yeah.

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And then if you are lucky enough to want to stick around and hear that concert, what you're actually gonna get, it's a trick. It's like a switch or reel, it's like a bait and switch. You and I are gonna cover the song instead of the real people.

SPEAKER_06 5:19

It's a t it's a what'd you call it, a shift? Uh bait and switch. It's uh the bait and switch is like the uh scheming equivalent of a uh vo a tonal shift. What'd you call it? A vocal shift? It's a voicing shift.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

And then that's probably not the right words. If Dr. DL ever listens, he's gonna be like, oh, I can't believe how wrong she is. Anyway, back to it. The song we're covering this week is I'm so proud by it. It's a song we started to play three times at the beginning of this podcast accidentally because it was stuck in our heads.

SPEAKER_06 5:51

Is I'm so proud by the impressions.

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Curtis Mayfields.

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Curtis Mayfield's group. Yeah, anyways, continue.

SPEAKER_02 6:00

Alright, so then that's it. And uh so let's kick it off.

SPEAKER_06 6:03

Yeah.

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Welcome to the basement.

SPEAKER_06 6:05

What was I gonna say?

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I don't know. Was it corner time?

SPEAKER_06 6:09

Yeah, it's corner time.

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I have a lot of things for corner time.

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So we have uh something called Corrections Corner. Let's uh rip through that real quick.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Okay, did you find out how old Jody Benson is?

SPEAKER_06 6:17

Um no. Was I supposed to do that?

SPEAKER_02 6:19

Well, we thought she was too old to be wearing a mermaid costume swimming around, and then I thought, well, maybe she's not. Oh man. So I've assumed it would make it. Well, you know what, I'll look at it.

SPEAKER_06 6:29

I thought that was just my responsibility.

SPEAKER_02 6:30

No, it is yours. I just assumed. You can have corrections corner. I don't want to have it. I just want to see how we can.

SPEAKER_06 6:35

We could raise Corrections Corner together like we did our two beautiful children.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

Okay, she is 64, Jodie Benson.

SPEAKER_06 6:41

Jodie Benson is 64. Now, it's funny because we did I do want to open up with uh Julie Benz, who played Dexter's wife, and I call I referred to her as Judy. Julie Benson. Judy Benson.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

Oh. Wow. Um Judy Dench. Judy Man, we're only a few degrees away from anything we call her around the Judy a couple days before we've got to be.

SPEAKER_06 7:01

We love our Judies. Uh no, Julie, yeah, Julie Bench. We do love our Judy's. Uh she played Rita Bennett. Uh in I don't want to give any spoilers, but John Lithgow on that show was some of the finest stuff that's ever been on TV, in my opinion. Alright, moving on, maybe we'll talk about Dexter some other time. And or John Lithgow. John Lithgow will definitely make an appearance several times.

SPEAKER_02 7:21

What kind of a person is he in real life? I think he's probably pretty good, did who am I thinking of that's not a good one?

SPEAKER_06 7:26

I think he's a very serious actor.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_06 7:29

I love him.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_06 7:30

Okay. Prince. You refer to a prince as uh his royal highness.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

I think I said your highness on that. You just steamrolled right over it.

SPEAKER_06 7:40

Yeah, well, I just want to make sure.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

Okay. Your Royal Highness.

SPEAKER_06 7:42

Or you could say uh Her Royal Highness.

SPEAKER_02 7:45

Could you say the artist formerly known as Her Royal Highness?

SPEAKER_06 7:49

Well, you know, I've been fine-tuning this uh my my notes, my note creation because I just I just dump into this thing throughout the week.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 7:58

And I've been trying to tri train like a custom GPT or some AI tool to try to help you. To try to organize it all.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

That was my job.

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And do you want do you want to do that?

SPEAKER_02 8:09

I thought that's what I was doing right now.

SPEAKER_06 8:11

Well, it's what you're doing. I need help from everywhere. I need help during the week too. You don't follow me around.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

Leave your comments below about how you can help Rob too.

SPEAKER_06 8:18

Actually, I would I no my next step will be getting people to edit and uh trying to pay the kids, but none of them, none of them are biting. Um I'm not offering enough. I don't remember what I was gonna say, but it kept trying to uh over the my course of training this, it was it kept trying to insist that Prince does not did not go by Prince the you know the musician.

SPEAKER_02 8:41

Yeah, right. It couldn't differentiate. I end up going with Claude.

SPEAKER_06 8:43

Chat GPT is just infuriating me. Claude, uh Claude made this week's notes. Um, anyways. Uh what else? The beat-'ems beat'ems. Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 8:53

Beat 'em ups?

SPEAKER_06 8:54

No, Beatles. They were a band back in uh you know what? Let's make it let's make it a thing.

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I like beat 'ems better. Beat 'em's the beat.

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The beat'ems. They also went as the beat-ems for Halloween.

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Dumb question that just occurred to me.

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Happy New Year, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

Oh yeah, happy new year. Continue. But I always wanna this is gonna be a uh She thought Dan was your brother moment. Um are they the Beatles? B-E-A-T because of beets.

SPEAKER_06 9:22

I I would imagine that's why.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

Oh my gosh, I literally never thought of that before.

SPEAKER_03 9:27

I just I feel sick.

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All the blood is rushing from my head into other places and I kind of pass out.

SPEAKER_06 9:37

Do you know what they were before? Before they were the Beatles?

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The cockroaches. La cucarachas.

SPEAKER_06 9:43

How do you spell that? No. They were the I believe they were the quarry men.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 9:49

Anyways. Okay, we'll we'll do some more beatable stuff later. But the Beatles, the reason I bring the Beatles up is because I was trying to think of the I was trying to think of the albums that reminded me of the Elvis movie. Where they kind of did like this hotspot of people covering it and mixing genres and whatnot. And the two that I was thinking of were uh from I Am Sam, that soundtrack.

SPEAKER_02 10:11

I said I am Sam.

SPEAKER_06 10:12

Did you really? Did you really? You said I am Sam, right?

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And you were like, no, not really.

SPEAKER_00 10:17

It's not like that one. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 10:19

Everyone, please go back and relisten.

SPEAKER_07 10:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

And you literally said no, not like that. I did? Yeah.

unknown 10:25

Gosh.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

I think. Well, I feel pretty good. I've never actually lost it. I just started listening to that one, so I'll get to it and let you know.

SPEAKER_06 10:34

And Love. The album Love, which was uh Cirque du Soleil Beatles.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

Oh yeah. Uh they did a lot of familiar with that.

SPEAKER_06 10:44

Uh Anson uh what's his face? Yeah, Anson what's his face on uh Chris Chris Pike on Star Trek. Anson.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

His real name? Yeah, the actor.

Beatles, Soundtracks, And TV Hair Tangent

SPEAKER_06 10:57

Uh well anyways, his hair is real. To quote one of his uh to quote Jess Bush, all real baby.

SPEAKER_02 11:04

Wow. Four inches tall. Hot.

SPEAKER_06 11:06

Yeah, check out the guy's hair. How do they style that? Pike's Peak is what they call it.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

I bet. It's a great name for his hair.

SPEAKER_06 11:12

Um, I wanted to talk about how I don't know if we're gonna have time today in Corrections Corner of all places, but Mrs. McMurray, who's who I keep referring to in my notes, which really confuses AI. Mrs. McMurray from Letterkenny.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 11:28

Who plays uh I can't I didn't even write the actress's name down. But I really There's always next week. It really bothered me the whole mix. Uh you know, I don't want to spoil the series. Did we talk? Did we spoil the series last time?

SPEAKER_02 11:41

I don't even remember talking about Letterkenny last time.

SPEAKER_06 11:43

I'm just gonna say, for anybody who watched Star Trek uh Strange New World season three, and you were also a G.I. Joe fan. Do you know who Serpentour is? Serpentor was like this super villain that Cobra put together that was the mix of all these different DNA and blood from like evil dictators and tyrants throughout history. And that sort of reminded me of like an inverse of that, where she was like the the mix of all these alien races that fall to evil throughout the quadrant. Mrs. McMurray. I just wanted to say I thought that was stupid.

SPEAKER_02 12:24

I have no idea what you're even talking about.

SPEAKER_06 12:26

Forget it. We'll move on. In the last episode, it was a big bullet in my notes, and I had this whole thing on it. I just want I just wanted to throw that back to the case. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

No. Oh remember she was like the guardian of like the You're talking about his girlfriend is Mrs. McMurray on Letterkenny. Yeah, I was not that part. I was like, what are we talking about? I don't remember talking about Letterkenny. That's so funny. What a what a good actress she is. I guess she's play that silly, but that's silly McMurray character.

SPEAKER_06 12:58

I think I could play Mrs. McMurray.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Could you play whatever her name is?

SPEAKER_06 13:01

I think all you have to do is be able to say uh a word that we don't say on here, but uh it's a one of Carlin's seven. Um CS CS Lewis.

SPEAKER_02 13:11

Oh, is that what that stands for?

SPEAKER_06 13:14

Um uh and also in Blink. We talked about Blink last week, the uh the wonderful Doctor Who episode, the legendary, the perfect episode, I think is what we decided. And I was trying to think of other shows, other movies that have used that that trope where you have like a perfectly paid paced um some event that was known prior to the protagonist being in it.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

Oh right.

SPEAKER_06 13:40

Like when she's ripping the wallpaper off the walls or or having that conversation with them. But it you you kind of it kind of gives a little bit of art artistic flexibility um to allow for that to happen.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 13:51

You know what I mean? Where the timing is perfect, even though that they don't really explain that.

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:55

And I was trying to think of other shows and movies that did that. And and uh I got Bill and Ted and Prisoner of Ascabon, Ascaban. Oh, I love it. Yeah, that's pretty good. Harry Potter Interstellar kind of does it.

SPEAKER_04 14:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 14:07

Arrival kind of does it. Um and I just wanted to mention that.

SPEAKER_04 14:10

Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 14:11

Because I said I would find out for Corrections Corner.

SPEAKER_02 14:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 14:14

Now we have the Leslie Saids the Leslie said corner, the Rob Mystic corner.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Oh.

SPEAKER_06 14:18

Rob didn't catch a corner.

SPEAKER_02 14:19

There's already gonna be one on this one. I already have.

SPEAKER_06 14:23

Well, we could add we could add I am Sam to it. We don't we just get rid of the corrections corner because you know everything.

SPEAKER_02 14:28

That's true.

SPEAKER_06 14:29

Which you kind of do.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

No, I didn't know that the Beatles.

SPEAKER_06 14:33

We're close enough to each other where I could touch you.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

Oh my gosh, we're finally.

SPEAKER_06 14:36

Wanna go OF?

SPEAKER_02 14:37

I don't know what that means. Only only fans? Oh, I do not want that. Only feet fans.

SPEAKER_06 14:44

Leslie said, You said let's acknowledge the room in the room. You thought that was funny. I did too. I didn't at the time because I wasn't listening to you. Okay. You said breaker breaker, and then you followed that by saying that your sister taught you that. And then you said that she's a truck driver. She's not.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

She could be if she wanted to.

SPEAKER_06 15:06

Large Marge uh shoe craft. She took my last name.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

When we got married.

SPEAKER_06 15:11

It's a culture. Yeah. It's a cultural thing. Among truckers. Um and uh you said that doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

That's my favorite part.

SPEAKER_06 15:22

What?

SPEAKER_02 15:23

Things that I said that were funny.

SPEAKER_06 15:25

You said uh fact check me when raining on I said fact-check me when raining on something. You said you were gonna ask one of our 14 subscribers. Well, I I did I didn't want to bring that up anymore because now we have 15.

SPEAKER_02 15:36

16? Oh, I just looked on Monday.

SPEAKER_06 15:38

Hey guys, like like and subscribe. Yeah, it's 16 though.

SPEAKER_02 15:41

You guys, this is so cute of us that we have 16.

SPEAKER_06 15:46

All right, now we get to the consumption corner. You know what I did on the last uh video that we published? What? I've been I've been trying to make make the videos just a little bit better every time. Right. And when we do a uh when we do a cut in to what what so we do a little intro where it takes like a fun 15 second nonsense. And then it goes into the theme song that I completely destroyed. I'll have to figure out how to edit that. And then but right in between that I do the little uh you know the little wing. Um this is how I this is how I transition between bits now.

SPEAKER_02 16:22

Cute.

SPEAKER_06 16:23

It does that.

SPEAKER_02 16:24

I love that nice little wing. It's probably my favorite.

SPEAKER_06 16:29

It's probably my favorite uh less than two second guitar part of all time.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

Cute.

SPEAKER_06 16:34

That's how I anytime I get a guitar in my hand, I do that.

SPEAKER_02 16:37

That's what you do.

SPEAKER_06 16:38

Yep, I just do it. Alright, so um Leslie Leslie Chooses. This is consumption core. This is where the small talk really, really ramps up.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

I have things to share as well.

SPEAKER_06 16:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 16:49

You really I like this. We don't need we might not even have to have Leslie Chooses part because you're just gonna make it.

SPEAKER_02 16:54

Oh my gosh, I'm just gonna it's just gonna be mean. You're gonna have to turn into Rob Chooses.

SPEAKER_06 16:57

Oh, my posture now.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

Oh, gee.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

Well, mine's not great because you took my table away from me. Why did you just peck pop?

SPEAKER_06 17:05

Just peck pop me.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

Alright, give me some options.

SPEAKER_06 17:07

Alright, so we have uh the Oscar Peterson and Lester Young album.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

Okay. Is that the one with T for Two?

SPEAKER_06 17:14

It is.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

And Stardust.

SPEAKER_06 17:16

Stardust is on there, yeah. It's got a lot of good. What are the other choices? We got Man, there's broccoli sprouts smell coming back up.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

Hmm.

unknown 17:25

Great.

SPEAKER_06 17:25

Okay, we can talk about broccoli sprouts if we want, and that's not on here. Die Hard with a Vengeance.

SPEAKER_02 17:29

Okay, I have that on mine too.

SPEAKER_06 17:32

Ronnie Earl and the Baroutcasters.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 17:35

Um Off to Be the Wizard. We could just mention that. I don't think we're gonna talk about that yet, but uh, that is Magic 2.0.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

Oh yeah, I'm gonna do that.

Time Loops, Perfect Timing Tropes

SPEAKER_06 17:43

I'm gonna finish that. You're gonna read it next or at least start it.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

I've just finished Flatland. Flat Land will do a little moments before we came down here, yeah. I squeezed it in.

SPEAKER_06 17:54

Can you tell me if you liked it or not?

SPEAKER_02 17:58

I liked it a lot.

SPEAKER_06 18:01

You did?

SPEAKER_02 18:02

I just can't imagine I just can't imagine ever. It's just like from the 1800s and just it's just so relevant.

SPEAKER_06 18:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

I but I can't even imagine what the st the movies are gonna be about.

SPEAKER_06 18:18

I know, we gotta watch them both. Well, let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

Are they gonna try to make it like the shapes?

SPEAKER_06 18:24

No idea.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

Okay, well we'll save that anyway.

SPEAKER_06 18:26

Um I did like a lot. It's got like one of them has a decent cast, like like you've said that several times. Anyways, we'll we'll find out. Stick around, guys, subscribe, uh, become the 17th subscriber so you can listen to that episode. It'll come up here in the next month or so, probably. We could talk about Mary's Little Boy Child. It's a Neil Diamond Child.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

Did you listen to it?

SPEAKER_06 18:43

Or our other Christmas albums we listen to. You want to start with that?

SPEAKER_02 18:46

Just start with that one song.

SPEAKER_06 18:47

I listened to it because you played it for me.

SPEAKER_02 18:49

I know.

SPEAKER_06 18:50

And I did like it, yeah. If I'd heard it before, I didn't realize I didn't realize it was called Mary's Little Boy Child.

SPEAKER_02 18:55

Just tell me like what you liked about it. Or if you liked it.

SPEAKER_06 18:58

I I did like it, yeah. It's got a nice melody. Um I love Neil Diamond's voice.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

Do you like how he always sings like he's presenting something? Like, can't you just imagine he's walking with his chest to the audience and his arms spread wide?

SPEAKER_06 19:10

He does. He's got a real good uh I mean, did he ever play Vegas or anything like that?

SPEAKER_02 19:15

He's got I think so, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:17

He he must he must. I bet he's played everything there is to be played.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

We'll find out next week. Corrections Corner.

SPEAKER_06 19:22

That was off the volume of Christmas Dose 2. Neil Diamond's Christmas Songs Volume 2 or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 19:28

Neil Diamond's Christmas album volume two.

SPEAKER_06 19:32

We listened to James Brown's Funky Christmas.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

We did. They go straight to the ghetto. Santa Claus. Straight to the ghetto. Uh all right, talk about it.

SPEAKER_06 19:40

I learned that Bobby Bird uh Bobby Bird and James Brown. Bobby Bird, like they met I they met in Bob uh James Brown was in prison, I believe, for robbery.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

Well we were talking about that, yeah.

Consumption Corner Starts

SPEAKER_06 19:54

And Bobby Bird Why were we talking about that? I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 20:01

Why w were we talking about that on air?

SPEAKER_02 20:03

No.

SPEAKER_06 20:05

Oh, it's because I was I was reading about James Brown's fucky Christmas. Oh. And I said y you said who b who Bobby is. I says Bobby Bird, or something like that. Because he's like, Bobby?

SPEAKER_02 20:15

Oh, right. He says it. Yeah. Okay. It's all coming back to me now.

SPEAKER_06 20:18

And I said it was Bobby Byrd, and then I started going down a rabbit hole and how they met and all that kind of thing. And yeah, I guess Brown J James Brown was in prison or jail for robbery, I believe. And Bobby Bird, like kind of like his family sort of took him in and they started working together. And a cute little story. Yeah, really nice too. All right, talk about SimCity 2000 soundtrack.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Whoa.

SPEAKER_06 20:43

I listened to that.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Well, I want you to go ahead and talk about T for two and start us.

SPEAKER_06 20:46

You won't talk about uh you won't talk about Oscar Peterson and Les Dungeons.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

I want you to. And I'll say, mm-hmm. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 20:54

So there's this little segment. Little segment that we've started. Because in the first uh 15 episodes or so, I would just talk to Leslie's face and ask her questions about have you heard this? Have you heard of this guy? Have you heard of this? Have you heard of this? And the answer would always be no. Or yes, but I wouldn't hear it.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

There's usually no though in this section.

SPEAKER_06 21:18

So we started doing this little segment, which we started last week with Earl Clue, Soda Fountain Shuffle. Yeah, Rainbow Rainbow Man.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

Ram Man.

SPEAKER_06 21:28

Rainbow Bridge.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

That's a different place.

SPEAKER_06 21:31

It's really not that funny.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

That's probably not as uh happy.

SPEAKER_06 21:34

As Rainbow Bridge.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 21:36

Rainbow Bridge, for those who don't know, is a a real place.

SPEAKER_02 21:39

It's a real place where your pets go when they die. And they wait for you.

SPEAKER_06 21:43

They wait for you.

SPEAKER_02 21:44

Because you ha in order to get into heaven. What book book of the Bible is this in? Did you have to cross a rainbow bridge?

SPEAKER_06 21:50

This is uh Now is this an Asgard? Second Vido is Asgard. It's yeah, it's Asgard. Yeah, it's it's Viking Heaven. Yeah, what isn't their bridge?

SPEAKER_02 21:58

Isn't their bridge kind of like a rainbow?

SPEAKER_06 22:00

Well, oddly enough, I think Viking Hell is hell. Oh is where that word comes from. But I know it's north north. Anyways, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

All right, tell me about this Rainbow.

SPEAKER_06 22:10

So basically what I've been asking Leslie to do is hey, listen to this album. Feel free to skip it if you don't like it. But let me know why you skipped it and why you didn't like it.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

Well, you just said those two songs. I couldn't find an album that had those two songs. I just had to go and look up those two songs. And I listened to a few other things that were on the playlist that those two things were on.

SPEAKER_06 22:35

So, okay. So I'm not a I'm not a jazz guru by any stretch of the imagination. I just kind of want to be, and I love listening to all sorts of music.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

Let me just interject. The other day I picked up a new patient and I was asking him and his wife what they liked, and they listed what do you think they listed? What choices of music they wanted me to play?

SPEAKER_06 22:56

Was it ja was like hard bop or something like that?

SPEAKER_02 22:58

What what what do you think it would be like true truly? What would someone around here choose?

SPEAKER_06 23:02

Oh, g Gospel. And uh bluegrass.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

No, country. Gospel and country. And they specifically said no jazz. Well, I mean first of all, I can't even play any jazz unless we're calling Frank Sinatra jazz, which some people that would be as close as I could get.

SPEAKER_06 23:22

I mean, this is honestly probably closer to Sinatra than it is too.

SPEAKER_02 23:25

Anyway, I just thought that was really funny that they were very specifically like no jazz.

SPEAKER_06 23:28

Well, so anyways, you're you're talking about Kriber. You're talking about um not being able to find the album.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:38

I found the album in like four different places because it's like four different albums.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:44

So it's kind of tricky.

SPEAKER_02 23:46

But I couldn't find one album that had both of those songs on there.

SPEAKER_06 23:49

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 23:50

Yeah, or one album that was and this is Apple music. Sometimes it gets weird when you're searching. So anyway, I did find I did listen to those two songs and then a few other songs. Well, so and Stardust.

SPEAKER_06 24:00

What I was gonna say was what what I realize a lot of these jazz albums do um is they'll take they'll take all these all these cuts or all these uh takes, and or literally you you might get an album like the like I was listening to Wes Montgomery's boss guitar, and it was it I think there was like one of the versions I was listening to of the album had like four different takes of one of the songs on it. So what they do is just they have a bunch of different releases based on some of those takes. I don't know what we're gonna do. They were all good. I think the difference from theirs is that they're all their takes. They didn't mess up, and that's why they had to do it. They were just choosing to do them again.

SPEAKER_04 24:43

They didn't weren't forced to.

Jazz Takes: Oscar Peterson And Lester Young

SPEAKER_06 24:44

Yeah, exactly. So, anyways, that's probably what you were running into. I should have given you a bit more guidance, but one of them says like uh Oscar Peterson and the President, which they're supposed to call like Lester Young is the pres the prez or the president or the you know the pork pie pork pie hat boy with uh-um. Pork pie hat uh-um. So I wanted you to listen to this, those two songs in particular. One was because I wanted you to actually listen to the entire album. Okay, well it didn't interest. In my opinion, just no, it doesn't matter. Uh I love I love Oscar Peterson. He's my favorite. I don't know if he's my favorite piano player, but he is definitely up there. I think oh my gosh, do you well what'd you think?

SPEAKER_02 25:32

I thought they were I thought they were both fine, lovely, beautiful. And when we have seen jazz music in real life, it is a completely different experience. I just cannot get excited about listening to recorded jazz music. When we're when we go see shows, I love it, and I feel like no time at all goes by and the show's over, and you're like, wow. What have we just stepped outside of time for the last hour and a half or however? But I don't feel like that when I'm listening to a recorded jazz. It just drifts right into the background. I can't so focus on it much.

SPEAKER_06 26:08

Let me let's work with that. Okay. Okay. Uh I'm not I'm not gonna quite say that I wish that you were with your hospice patients and that you were dying. I I'm not saying that. You're not saying you wish I was dying. No, gosh, no. That'd be terrible. Just because you don't like jazz, are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_02 26:25

I didn't say I didn't like jazz.

SPEAKER_06 26:26

No, I know, I'm just I'm gaslighting you. Okay, so um thanks for playing. I that I I'll I'll I'll use that to say that this is about this will be considered like um some some subgenre of swing.

SPEAKER_02 26:43

Oh yeah. And especially it was a T for two faster.

SPEAKER_06 26:47

Yes. Yeah. Yes, and the reason I wanted you to listen to T for 2 is just because I think we always sort of laugh about the Sam Cook reference to Cha Cha. He's like T for two. Yeah. And then he what uh Tom Tom Dooley. Tom Dooley, which is uh such a strange I'm sure that reference meant meant a lot more. That's a guy getting executed.

SPEAKER_02 27:07

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry.

SPEAKER_06 27:09

We've got execution on this podcast. BG's message to you. Anyways, it's about as you said it blends into the background. It is about as jazzy as I can listen to while working. I can't listen. I I love like the, you know, I'll just call Bebop, you know, all the different variations, like some Coltrane or Thelonious Monk or something like that. I love that stuff. But I don't I can't really work. I can't I can't work, I can't write uh write a paper, you know. I can't figure out some something that requires a bunch of critical thinking. Listen to that stuff. It's just too, it's too aggressive, it's too much in attack mode, kind of. The multiple rhythms and heart. It's everything that makes it awesome also makes it you kind of just gotta be settled in to listen to that.

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Yeah, that's what you're doing.

SPEAKER_06 28:02

That's what you're doing. Yeah. This is I I could listen to this, I love it, it warms my soul. Oscar Peterson sounds like just a big warm sheet of wonderful I I I want what what I would if I could if I could if I had ten wishes, one of them would be, one of them would be That seems greedy. If I had four wishes, that's better. I'd wish for another wish, and that wish would be that Oscar Peterson could just be cloned and and and replicated in every um do they still have pianos in department stores? Piano players?

SPEAKER_02 28:42

I haven't seen that in a while.

SPEAKER_06 28:44

I would I would love to be walking by and he's just tearing it up. So here's the thing about that album. This is why I like that album so much. So it's an Oscar Peterson trio. And I wanted to listen to some Lester Young. I know I'd heard him before, but I never really listened to him on purpose. And he he's a saxophone player. We get down our own rabbit holes on this podcast where we talked about Mingsaam, which is a which is an album, where he wrote where he did Goodbye Pork Pie hat, and then we talked about all the different variations.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

And then we each got ourselves a pork pie hat. And we did, and we ate it, it was delicious.

SPEAKER_06 29:21

It was and we put him on Judy Dench and Daniel Craig.

SPEAKER_02 29:24

Daniel Craig. Right where they were supposed to be.

SPEAKER_06 29:27

And uh and I so I wanted to listen to I wanted to listen to these guys together because I saw that I was just look look, look, I was looking through Lester Young albums, and I saw that he had the Oscar Peterson one, so I was like, this is the one I I gotta listen to. Because Barney Kessel's on it, who's a guitar player, who's been he's he is such a smooth like I you know, I've I've have you heard me talk about Joe Pass before?

SPEAKER_02 29:53

If I don't know. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_06 29:55

Okay, forget it. Um he's just every single one of these guys, Lester Young, Joe Pass, Ray Brown, not Joe Pass.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

I'm sorry I'm such a horrible wife.

SPEAKER_06 30:04

No, it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

You're it's okay that you are.

SPEAKER_06 30:06

You're not that bad. They're all they're all so incredibly good, and they're just all improvising, they're all doing these crazy things, but it's still somehow subtle, and it's still somehow smooth, and it's just it's per it's it's just it's right in a very it's in a sweet spot for me. And I think I'm I'm gonna really over the course of the next, I don't know, my life, get into this genre. And it's this album in particular, like it's really hard to find information on these on these albums like this because number one, you can't even find what quote unquote the album is. It's like the Norman Grant's um if I'm saying his name right, um one of his productions. And and I I think it was what that doesn't matter. But anyways, we don't have to go into it because I'm not I'm not really prepared. If you're not what you you just it just wasn't for you.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

It's not not for me. But if I'm choosing music, I'm going to choose something with a singer.

SPEAKER_06 31:12

What do you think about Stardust? Do you like that song?

SPEAKER_02 31:15

That now that's the song, like the Nat King Cole Stardust.

SPEAKER_06 31:19

Yes. Naking Cole did sing Stardust, yes.

SPEAKER_02 31:23

Yeah, I mean it was pretty, it was fine.

SPEAKER_06 31:25

It was a uh Hoagie Carmichael. Hoagie Carmichael wrote it in 1927 and added lyrics in 1929.

SPEAKER_02 31:32

Oh, it didn't originally have lyrics? Did he added lyrics to his own song?

SPEAKER_06 31:35

Sinatra did it, Nat King Cole, Louis Armstrong, Willie.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

Did he write the lyrics to his own song?

unknown 31:39

No.

SPEAKER_06 31:40

Someone else added somebody else did. It was Mitchell Parrish. Mitchell Parrish did. I love Stardust.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

Yeah, it's a really good thing.

SPEAKER_06 31:47

I would actually like to do that on this. Do that on our show.

SPEAKER_02 31:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 31:52

And so I just I gave you those two songs just because I thought they were good illustrations of songs. But we don't we don't we don't have to talk about it anymore. Okay, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 32:03

I chose it because I did my homework.

SPEAKER_06 32:05

You did it. I'm I'm I'm not I'm not disappointed. I didn't think you'd like it.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

I'm not mad.

SPEAKER_06 32:10

I didn't think you'd love it. I'm just disappointed. What I want to do is find I want to find a I want to hit an album like this that you're like, this is great.

SPEAKER_02 32:23

Okay. Okay, I guess keep searching.

SPEAKER_06 32:25

And I think what it's gonna actually what's actually going to happen is I'm just going to beat you over the head with this stuff.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Until I quit the podcast.

SPEAKER_06 32:32

Until you either quit, lie to me, so I'll stop.

SPEAKER_02 32:36

I love it so. But this is the one. No, this was the one. This was the one.

SPEAKER_06 32:42

I won't stop. Um we know. So, okay, cool. Well thanks for thanks for humoring me. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_02 32:49

Um Do you want me to have a turn?

SPEAKER_06 32:51

Yeah, have a turn.

SPEAKER_02 32:51

Let's well, let's talk about Die Hard with a Ven Vegans.

Die Hard With A Vengeance Rewatch

SPEAKER_06 32:54

Let's do it. You've seen this before. Die Hard with a Vengeance. John McTierney has come back from Die Hard, the first one. He did not do the second one. Do you ever see the second one?

SPEAKER_02 33:06

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_06 33:07

You have no idea if you've seen it?

SPEAKER_02 33:09

I doubt that I have.

SPEAKER_06 33:11

Um it doesn't matter. We're not talking about that one.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

No, we're talking about Die Hard with a Vengeance. The third one.

SPEAKER_06 33:18

We picked it. Go ahead, talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

Uh well, we chose it for Christmas Eve as our Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_06 33:24

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

And because Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_06 33:27

And Well Die Hard with Die Hard is, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_06 33:31

Oh god.

SPEAKER_02 33:31

And we had all seen that, so we decided on Die Hard with a Vengeance. And it was truly delightful. Samuel L. Jackson was a great um supporting actor. He won best supporting actor in my heart. Did he win it in real life too?

SPEAKER_06 33:49

He was phenomenal in this movie.

SPEAKER_02 33:51

Yeah, and I thought it was interesting that you said he wasn't very well known at that point.

SPEAKER_06 33:55

No, not really. Um Lawrence Fishburne, I believe, was supposed to be in this role. I had notes on this. I don't know where they went, so I'm just gonna talk about without him and see how see how we can do.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 34:05

Um yeah, so Samuel L. Jackson and Bruce Willis in this movie, their whole back and forth.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:12

It's some of the finest buddy buddy action. Like of all time, I think.

SPEAKER_02 34:19

But like I hate you, buddy action.

SPEAKER_06 34:22

Yeah, well that's what makes the buddy action fun. Right. There's gotta be a little bit of a little bit of trouble, like making it. And like Samuel L.

SPEAKER_02 34:28

Jackson isn't trying to be funny. That's what I like a lot about his character.

SPEAKER_06 34:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

Yeah, he's just He's not a comic relief. It's just he is what he is, and I like that.

SPEAKER_06 34:39

Yeah, even the circumstances by which they meet.

SPEAKER_02 34:41

Uh that scene is great. Oh, he's wearing that sandwich board. You must have made me watch that before because I knew I'd seen that, but I don't think I'd seen the whole movie.

SPEAKER_06 34:49

Yeah, that's uh that's a scene you don't forget. I think I think they CGI that which the words because they didn't want to write it? I don't really know. I just it's it popped out when I was doing some some research on it, or I'd heard that before. I've heard several podcasts on Die Hard with a Vengeance before. Just people talking about it. I love listening to people talk about movies that I've seen.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

Several podcasts talking about the third Die Hard.

SPEAKER_06 35:15

I mean, I I have.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

And now here we are adding yet another podcast.

SPEAKER_06 35:18

Plank check did it and uh Rewatchables did it. I've listened to yeah. I've anyways.

SPEAKER_02 35:25

Well anyway, it was great. If you like diehard, you'll like that.

SPEAKER_06 35:30

That's do we want to talk talk about anything else about that? Well, what else do you need to say about it? What makes it a Christmas movie?

SPEAKER_02 35:35

Well, there's a it's not, but they have a few uh when he's trying to disarm the bomb in the school, he makes a few Christmas lyric references, which I can't remember now. I feel like they were twelve days of Christmas related, were they? In a partridge in a beard tree or something like that. And then there's one other thing that is a Christmas story.

SPEAKER_06 35:55

Who is this uh who is it? He's like it's Santa Claus, something like that.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

Yeah, and there's just like those two references, but I feel like it's very I mean, did were they already were people already saying it was a Christmas movie by the time the third one came out?

SPEAKER_06 36:05

Or that like no one no one actually says, oh, I see what you're saying. Like it's self-referential.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:11

I think so. I don't know for sure.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

I saw this movie because it happened at Christmas in the first one.

SPEAKER_06 36:19

Yeah. Well, this one definitely happened in what July probably. I I like the I like the way it opens with uh Summer in the City.

SPEAKER_02 36:29

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:30

Um anyways, I yeah, it's definitely in July. It's uh Did you like the whole thing? You like the end? Like the whole the whole movie?

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Yeah, I I mean you just a bit of belief suspension.

SPEAKER_06 36:47

Oh yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

So I feel like if you if you've suspended belief, that's very, very fun and delightful. I like the uh it What was it kind of F-wordy what you said to the children?

SPEAKER_06 36:58

Yeah, I said Clark, you're gonna watch this movie. It's very super epic. I didn't watch it.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

He didn't want to celebrate Christmas Eve.

SPEAKER_06 37:04

He's so random with the movies he wants to watch. It's just I don't know why I didn't want to watch it. Caroline liked it, I think.

SPEAKER_02 37:11

Good. Yeah, I'm sure she did. She likes everything.

SPEAKER_06 37:14

Um, okay, you want to move off of that?

unknown 37:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:17

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

Well, uh, did you have something else you wanted to say about it?

SPEAKER_06 37:20

Well, I just thought it was kind of stupid the way they end that movie. I don't like the ending of it.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

I think they I Well, I kind of felt the same way, which is why I said, but if you feel like we kind of gotta trash the movie.

SPEAKER_06 37:30

Didn't we sort of do that, isn't it our thing? We sort of like trash movies we like.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

Wait, we buckle in for movie trashing. We've consumed so much this week because we've been on break. And my brain is kind of like mushed up with like what happened in what movie.

SPEAKER_06 37:43

Yeah, mine do. I and I don't I don't have my notes in front of me again, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

Ew, that is a stinky burp. That doesn't even what does that even smell like? It smells like trash can.

SPEAKER_06 37:53

Broccoli sprouts, they're good, they're anticarcinogents. Very, very powerful. Glucoraffinid.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

If you could see me in the video, this isn't really helping. My sister told me to wear a high contrast shirt, so I wore a very low contrast.

SPEAKER_06 38:10

We're working on Laura lighting. Thank you, Laura, for for helping us out.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

Laura. So like you said, Lorde.

SPEAKER_06 38:16

Laura as well.

SPEAKER_02 38:18

For sending us Laura. We do really mean that.

SPEAKER_06 38:24

We call her Lorda when she does a really good job. So she's uh we always go.

SPEAKER_02 38:30

Yes, Lorda.

SPEAKER_06 38:31

I guess people who are listening can't see what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

What are you doing?

SPEAKER_06 38:35

You don't know what this is?

SPEAKER_02 38:36

Truck driver?

SPEAKER_06 38:36

Yeah, we're trying to get somebody you drive by a trucker and you can see it.

SPEAKER_02 38:39

Yeah, what does it have to do with saying Lorda? Oh, because she's a truck driver.

SPEAKER_06 38:43

Keep up with your own jokes. Come on, girl. Come on, girl.

SPEAKER_02 38:47

Um yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:49

Well, uh Johnny, uh what is it? Johnny marching the the city. Oh, I hated that part. That was so stupid. They used that way too much.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

That was really, really annoying.

SPEAKER_06 38:59

They used that a lot throughout the movie.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

They they only used it in that scene, but it just went on for I feel like they moved used it again toward the end.

SPEAKER_06 39:08

I said I think they did it.

SPEAKER_02 39:10

I did really like how we brought the helicopter down at the end.

SPEAKER_06 39:13

The way he did that was cool. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. Um the whole aspirin I'm hungover, I have a headache bit. That got a little tired. Yeah. Although it did end up playing into the plot.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:24

He would would you are you familiar with Chekhov's gun?

SPEAKER_02 39:28

Right. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 39:29

It's like a I it's it's when I think I'm saying this right. Um I'm again, uh as I'm striving to be a jazz connoisseur, I'm also striving to be a proper Cenophile. Chekhov's gun is when you use something in a movie that winds up driving the pl or winds up being instrumental in the plot later. So it's like a aspirin. An aspirin bottle. An aspirin bottle, he's talking about aspirin the whole time. He's got a headache the whole time. Finally, he has Jeremy Irons at the end to throw him uh throw him a aspirin. And it's got the you know Canadian that was it Quebec or what was that? It doesn't matter. But anyways, he finds out where they're where they are.

SPEAKER_02 40:09

Oh right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:10

Sees where they are, and then they go hunting.

SPEAKER_02 40:12

Wait, that was on the aspirin bottle? I thought that was in a phone book.

SPEAKER_06 40:15

No, I think it was in the uh aspirin. It was on the aspirin bottle. Like he bought it from a store in that Canadian city.

SPEAKER_02 40:22

Oh my gosh, I might have closed my eyes at that time.

SPEAKER_06 40:24

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

I don't remember that. I'm so sorry. Please forgive me. I thought that he found it because he was making a phone call to his wife. After not speaking to her, but he like left before she got on the phone because he saw something that had that Canadian.

SPEAKER_06 40:42

The aspirin bottle. I thought it was a coin. It's okay. A coin.

SPEAKER_03 40:51

I did. I don't remember.

SPEAKER_06 40:52

I'm pretty numbed now. I'm like, because you normally you normally you normally notice stuff like three times better than I do. So now I'm worried. Despite seeing the movie ten times.

SPEAKER_02 41:04

Please, will you?

SPEAKER_06 41:06

I didn't like I just didn't like the way the whole thing went down. Like I I did. It's fine. It's like it before. I think we've definitely the first half of the movie is killer. What?

Family Board Games And Kid Chaos

SPEAKER_02 41:17

Talked about it. We've talked about two things. Okay. Well, it's 6.17. We started recording like 5 40. Okay, okay. I'm trying to drag stuff out of here. Do I have other things to say? We're breaking up everybody. This is the last podcast.

SPEAKER_06 41:34

All right.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

Move on. All right. I wanted to talk about board games that we played with our children this week.

SPEAKER_06 41:39

Tell us.

SPEAKER_02 41:40

And oh, you didn't play it, but we played Kids Against Maturity. Which, if you've ever played, the original is Apples to Apples.

SPEAKER_04 41:47

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 41:48

Then someone came out with Cards Against Humanity, which is just an absolute garbage can of a game, but it's hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 41:54

Yeah, it's a pretty good time.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

And then my mom bought my children Kids Against Maturity several years ago, and it's a lot more like Cards Against Humanity than it is Apples to Apples. And we played both of those over our Christmas holiday. And um we didn't let well only the women played Kids Against Maturity. And playing with my sister is ridiculous because she hates the word fart. And it's on every card. She's like, I just can't. And she like she will not pick it if it's too gross for her. So then the new game is for me now, even though the way to get points is for someone to pick your card. My favorite thing to do when I'm playing with my sister is to put down the worst card that I have that I that she has to read out loud, and then I know she won't pick because she's she hates it so much.

SPEAKER_06 42:42

Who does she take after that she's so revolted by those things?

SPEAKER_02 42:45

I don't know. My mom loves it. My mom loves the word fart.

SPEAKER_06 42:47

She does, she likes to do it. She'll get if you get if you get a drink on her, she'll jump up on the table.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

Poor Jeannie.

SPEAKER_06 42:54

No, I guess your dad probably doesn't. He's probably not a huge fan of that kind of I've never heard him say much. At all.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

I can't think of a time I ever heard my dad say the word fart. Um all right, and then telestrations playing that with our children. So that's like um telephone, but you draw and then you flip the page, and the next person just gets to see your drawing, and then they write down what they think it's a drawing of, and then the next person sees what you wrote down, and then they have to do their best to draw that, and then you just keep going around the table. And our son is just he's an absolute menace. He is a menace when you play that with him.

SPEAKER_06 43:35

He will ever since I mean, how long have we been playing that game?

SPEAKER_02 43:38

Uh, since we got it. I don't even know if he could read. He could barely read, I feel like, when we first got it.

SPEAKER_06 43:44

But he could draw a penis.

SPEAKER_02 43:45

He's been able to draw a penis for a really long time.

SPEAKER_06 43:47

Yeah, like doctor the doctor said, like, he's got a gift. He does.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

I think they like when he was delivered, he came out with a dry erase marker and started drawing penises on the doctor's.

SPEAKER_06 43:57

Over his over his own penis. He actually created his own penis. It's amazing. I would have got a little bigger personally, but that's fine.

SPEAKER_03 44:04

He's just a baby. Oh, the newborn baby. Yeah. That's true.

SPEAKER_06 44:09

That'd be really weird. Never mind. This is a family podcast. We can say penis, all right.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

Well, it's we we just did.

SPEAKER_06 44:14

Yeah, as a family. So we got this rule where well, so we had this. There's we've played telestrations over the years with like you know, extended family. There's times where there'll be like there's Clark and then like Austin. Was was that am I making that up?

SPEAKER_02 44:32

I can't. Well, I don't know if there was a lot of people. There were two kids involved.

SPEAKER_06 44:35

Anytime there's anytime. So Clark will like we had this is an example. Ferret was one of the words. So, you know, I drew a ferret, and as it, you know, as it would kind of make sense, you know. It's the words, draw your best ferret. Yeah. Clark drew a ferret in the corner with like 15 penises just doing something insane in the corner.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

And I'm like, I'm trying my very best. I know there's no card that says 15 penises and a ferret. So I'm just trying my best to extrapolate what the card might have actually said before I drop draw or guess that then hand it off. It is. It's an extra layer.

SPEAKER_06 45:20

So you I kept getting this.

SPEAKER_03 45:22

You're getting the books from me.

SPEAKER_06 45:23

Yeah, I was like, this is a surprisingly tame version. Like, this is the tamest we've ever played this game. You're like, you have no idea what I'm preventing, what I'm f what I'm filtering.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

It's like, yeah, I'm sitting next to Clark, remember?

SPEAKER_06 45:39

The things I've seen. It's so absurd.

SPEAKER_02 45:43

It is a fun game, even if someone's not drawing a penis on every page.

SPEAKER_06 45:46

That's true. It is a little bit more fun with the penises, though.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

It is a little bit more fun, you're right.

SPEAKER_06 45:51

Good thing Clark doesn't listen to this other.

SPEAKER_02 45:54

It is fun to play with kids who um who can read but haven't been alive long enough to know figures of speech, things like that. I'll j I'll never forget what one time when it was fork in the road, and Clark literally drew a road and then drew forks in the road. And I was like, I don't think so. I don't remember. I think it was early on. It was like year one. Anyway, it's fun. If you don't have it, you should get it. And it was a fun family activity.

SPEAKER_06 46:22

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Any uh any other games you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_02 46:29

Not at this moment.

SPEAKER_06 46:31

How we do it on time?

SPEAKER_02 46:32

It's 6 23.

SPEAKER_06 46:35

Uh how much more time do we have?

SPEAKER_02 46:38

About 50 minutes.

SPEAKER_06 46:40

50 minutes, so we should probably move on. You want to move off of uh let me just let me just go through real quick. I did have diehard with a vengeance on it.

SPEAKER_02 46:50

Good.

SPEAKER_06 46:51

Oh man. Let me hey hang on, hang on, hang on.

SPEAKER_02 46:54

Uh wait, you're not allowed to go back? We already moved off of it.

unknown 46:58

Okay, alright.

SimCity 2000 Music And MIDI Nostalgia

SPEAKER_02 46:59

What are you doing?

unknown 47:00

Just kidding.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

Just kidding. What was one other thing you pick one other thing off your little list to talk about? Uh because I have one other thing at least.

SPEAKER_06 47:09

You do?

SPEAKER_02 47:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:10

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 47:11

No, no, no, it's a question for you.

SPEAKER_06 47:13

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 47:13

It's a little put you on the spot.

SPEAKER_06 47:15

I was just gonna say the SimCity 2000 soundtrack.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

But tell me about that, because I wasn't aware that that was on your list or on your radar at all.

SPEAKER_06 47:22

Well, I just every now and then will listen to that soundtrack.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

Now, was that did you have that on for your computer when you lived in with Wes?

SPEAKER_06 47:31

N no. What was that? That might have been City Lines, City Skylines. Or maybe Sim City 3000.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

Wait, wait, no, which one's this? 2000?

SPEAKER_06 47:40

2000.

SPEAKER_02 47:41

This is was it like the Sims like the kids have?

unknown 47:43

No.

SPEAKER_06 47:44

Made by the same company. Made by Maxis, I believe. I'm kind of.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

But the gameplay is different because it's cities, not people's individual lives.

SPEAKER_06 47:51

Right. Okay. I I know I have notes on it in here somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 47:54

Just tell me which one tell me.

SPEAKER_06 47:56

These are 14 pages of notes. I think I need I need to keep refining my process.

SPEAKER_02 47:58

I think so. I think absurd amount of notes for a 90-minute podcast. That is always two hours. Because of your 14 pages of notes on a perfect computer.

SPEAKER_06 48:10

Alright, so no, I I I don't know when the game came out exactly. I want to say maybe I was in sixth grade, fifth or sixth grade.

SPEAKER_02 48:18

Oh, we're playing it with Brandon.

SPEAKER_06 48:22

No one gets that joke, so my mom. Who's the only listener? So that's good. That her and 15 other people.

SPEAKER_00 48:27

That's true.

SPEAKER_06 48:28

Um, actually, she doesn't even subscribe, she doesn't even subscribe because she doesn't want to create a Google account.

SPEAKER_03 48:33

But she already actually has a lot of.

SPEAKER_06 48:35

Don't understand, but that's okay. I love you, mom. Alright, so SimCity 2000. I used to love that game. Like it it it this is one of the last. I'll just talk about the soundtrack though. I literally just pulled the soundtrack. I think the whole thing's like 15, 20 minutes long. And I I kind of just listened to it one, well, first of all, I actually enjoy at least half of it. I mean, the whole thing's totally fine.

SPEAKER_02 48:57

Is it as good as Stardew Valley soundtrack?

SPEAKER_06 48:59

No, it's not. It's not as long. And it's in Stardew Valley actually, well, I'll just say this. SimCity 2000 was like one of the very last video games that had a MIDI soundtrack. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 49:12

Oh, yeah, I do know what MIDI is.

SPEAKER_06 49:14

Um, and then they kind of went into more of like the CD audio coming off of it. So this was it's just really, really well done MIDI music. And they have like um there's this one, there's a couple songs in particular. There's this one that I just I I'm not even gonna try to recreate it, but it reminds me a lot of do you know the Steve Winwood song?

SPEAKER_07 49:36

It's like if you see a chance, take it. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_06 49:43

You'd hate it. Uh-huh. It's like super sense like.

SPEAKER_02 49:45

When you said Steve Winwood, I was like, oh, I probably don't know it.

SPEAKER_06 49:48

You probably like Spencer Davis, Steve Winwood, not so much this version. Like he in the like the 80s, he kind of went kind of like, I want to do music for video games. He did not, by the way, Steve Winwood did not have any affiliation with the soundtrack, as far as I know, but it always reminds me of that. It's like a midi saxophone, and it's playing this real kind of slow, kind of sad music, and I just it does something to my brain that just melts it.

SPEAKER_02 50:20

It just takes you back.

SPEAKER_06 50:22

I mean, I used to play this game, I would like I would get my get my city going to the point where it was generating income week by week, so I knew I could leave it alone. I'd crank it up to like cheetah speed, turn off disasters, go to school, come back, and I'd have just like so much money. And I just remember doing that over and over. That's how I'd how I'd build my cities. And um, but that music, it was the perfect music to just sit there because you you know you have to listen to it over and over.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

So you can turn off disasters?

SPEAKER_06 50:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:52

Seems like cheating.

SPEAKER_06 50:53

It is cheating. I'm a cheater. Oh, I know. I love cheating.

SPEAKER_02 50:58

Video game cheating.

SPEAKER_06 50:59

You're not a real person. Well, everything's a little bit cheating. It's just that what's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

You're not an infidelity cheater.

SPEAKER_06 51:03

No, not at all. No, not like that. Not yet, honey. We'll see how you we'll see how you do with the next jazz album. One and done.

unknown 51:10

One and done.

SPEAKER_02 51:11

Um when I I swear, I swear when I was in college, we had to take a music technology class. Maybe two of them. I swear the room we took it in was like a computer lab, but I swear they called it the Medi Lab.

SPEAKER_06 51:22

Probably.

SPEAKER_02 51:23

I'll have to ask somebody.

SPEAKER_06 51:24

Why aren't you running this operation then? Because freaking up the college for it.

SPEAKER_02 51:28

Remember I did the Tetris theme song?

SPEAKER_06 51:30

Oh yeah, I do remember that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:32

Did I like bring you in and have you listen to it?

SPEAKER_06 51:34

I d I remember listening to it at some point.

SPEAKER_02 51:36

How how would I have shared it with you if not directly from the source?

SPEAKER_06 51:40

Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 51:41

I mean the internet existed, but we didn't have like projects.

SPEAKER_06 51:43

Maybe you were just telling me about it. Was Dave in that class with you?

SPEAKER_02 51:46

No.

SPEAKER_06 51:47

No? I don't know. It was Drew. Drew was my TA. Oh, maybe it was Drew. Maybe Drew's who I was thinking of.

SPEAKER_02 51:52

And I did Brandy. That was my other project. Really? Yep. Nice. We had to use finale.

SPEAKER_06 51:59

Little uh what's that? Um looking glass? Looking glass, yeah. I was gonna say Edison Lighthouse. No, looking glass. Good call.

SPEAKER_02 52:06

Anyway, that's awesome. That now, if you sent me that, I would have to do that. We should do brandy.

SPEAKER_06 52:11

I love brandy.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

No, no, if you'd sent me the MIDI, if you'd sent me Sims 3000 soundtrack, I would have been like, I want to listen to this.

SPEAKER_06 52:18

Really? Yes. I'm gonna listen it to you then.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

Do it. Let's send it. Let's send it my way. Alright, last thing.

SPEAKER_06 52:24

Yeah, tell me.

New Year Resolutions And Workflow

SPEAKER_02 52:25

Did you set it? And if sorry again, I know you guys you guys this is gonna be like April when this comes out, but New Year's resolutions. Can't let this go by.

SPEAKER_05 52:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

Today, as on the filming and recording of this, it is the first day of the new year, 2026, January 1. Do you have any New Year's resolutions? Resolution.

SPEAKER_06 52:44

To watch the uh season finale of Stranger. Thanks.

SPEAKER_02 52:46

Oh, and you checked up many. I'm good. You're home free for the rest of the year. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_06 52:53

Uh yeah, to make um to make a video, to make a uh to make a podcast 50. I'd like to make about 50 podcasts.

SPEAKER_02 53:02

But I thought we were gonna take it to take a week off every quarter.

SPEAKER_06 53:05

Right, right, right. Well, Clark asked me this exact question.

SPEAKER_02 53:08

Oh, he did.

SPEAKER_06 53:09

And I said, I'd like to make When did he ask you this? Uh on the way home from something the other night.

SPEAKER_02 53:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 53:14

And I said, I want to keep this podcast going, like YouTube channel, whatever, for a year. And I want to see where we are.

SPEAKER_02 53:21

I thought we were on a three-year contract.

SPEAKER_06 53:23

Three years, fine.

SPEAKER_02 53:24

Yeah, fine, fine.

SPEAKER_06 53:25

I want to stick while I want to do it every week. It's tough to do every week.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

It is.

SPEAKER_06 53:29

It's really and like in our schedules are nuts, and I don't know what I'm doing. And it's bananas, and every week I'm just like, what am I doing?

SPEAKER_02 53:36

Like everyone's so far the most fun is is when we recorded in slow motion. Like that's been the highlight of the career so far.

SPEAKER_06 53:42

Is it recording still?

SPEAKER_02 53:43

It is, yeah. Anything else that you're set for the year?

SPEAKER_06 53:47

No, I'm pretty much um I'm pretty much great.

SPEAKER_02 53:50

I mean, I'm assuming it's recording. Yeah. Now I'm looking at it like I can't tell.

SPEAKER_06 53:54

I mean, no, I no, not really. Huh. I I I I'm already kind of yeah, I guess I don't I don't want to. It's like I told my goal for the beginning of the school year. Somebody asked me if I have any goals. I said to not MF a room full of people.

SPEAKER_02 54:11

So you're gonna keep on going to that.

SPEAKER_06 54:13

Uh just don't basically don't lose my cool.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_06 54:16

I'm the I'm the coolest guy around. Not cool like Fonzi, but like chill. Chill. Because that's that's my default. Uh-huh. But as soon as I'm pulled out of that, with through a number of things, whether it's being too hungry, uh mouth noises, or or forced multitasking. And there's a few other little things here and there, but those three things will send me especially when it's a combination of all three.

SPEAKER_04 54:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 54:43

Which is these situations that have happened.

SPEAKER_04 54:44

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 54:45

And I have absolutely lost I've had to send many apologies over the years, and it's it's embarrassing. It's uh it's not I'm not proud of it. Yeah, I would like to continue to to to have self-control. That's my goal.

SPEAKER_00 55:01

Okay, great.

SPEAKER_06 55:02

Self-control in this podcast. And they just keep working out and doing all that kind of crap. Good. Yeah. What's yours?

SPEAKER_02 55:08

Well, I I was staying still still trying to maintain that working out and the uh the protein goal has been good. And so I really want to I've December I just went plummeted to the ground. But that's alright. Today's January 1th. And I will be doing it again and working out and all those things. But my my make my favorite new one though is reducing food waste. That is my new goal for our family, for our cooking, and I'm really excited about it. Talking about like not throwing out leftovers, like using things before dripping toxic waste. Yeah, but I'm not gonna use it if it's I'm trying to use things before they're dripping toxic.

SPEAKER_06 55:50

That's what I'm saying, avoiding that. Yeah, avoiding that. Yep. I'm not saying find a recipe that involves toxic waste.

SPEAKER_02 55:56

It will it will require a little bit more creativity in the kitchen. And some people in this family are gonna have to eat something that they might not have put on the grocery list. Is it the uh some people, I won't say who.

SPEAKER_06 56:12

The the Da Vinci of penises.

SPEAKER_02 56:17

It might be. Okay. It might be. But anyway, I'm excited about it because I do actually like to cook when I have time to cook. And I feel like it might be just the thing this family needs.

SPEAKER_06 56:31

Sounds great. Um, more food or less food?

SPEAKER_02 56:34

Um same amount of food, less waste.

SPEAKER_06 56:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 56:39

Maybe maybe a smaller grocery bill, you know?

SPEAKER_06 56:41

Yeah. Something my body needs anyway.

SPEAKER_02 56:43

Something my body needs anyway. So anyway, yeah, that was good. Sorry, I feel like I didn't let you talk as much today.

SPEAKER_06 56:48

It's okay. You didn't, but that's all right.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

Um, did you want to say one more thing? Because remember, we still have to talk about our special, special main topic.

Main Feature: Ricky O The Story Of Ricky

SPEAKER_06 56:59

Well, we let's talk about it now.

SPEAKER_02 57:01

Okay. All right. Well, we're gonna bring to you a special story. A special story about Ricky O.

SPEAKER_06 57:08

To the story.

SPEAKER_02 57:11

Rob, give us a little background. What kind of movie is this? What year did it come out? It's a movie.

SPEAKER_06 57:16

This is a movie.

SPEAKER_02 57:17

What's a genre? Action?

SPEAKER_06 57:20

It would be Ooh, I don't know. Let me see if I have a genre. Yeah, martial arts. Yeah, martial arts action. It's under the genre of extreme violence gore.

SPEAKER_02 57:29

Yeah, I would agree with that.

SPEAKER_06 57:30

Prison?

SPEAKER_02 57:31

Prison.

SPEAKER_06 57:32

Um It's a prison movie. It's a prison movie.

SPEAKER_02 57:34

Honestly, when well, when it opened up and he was getting ad admitted to prison. Yeah. Locked up, I was thinking, is this whole movie gonna take place in this prison? And I had a sinking feeling that it was going to.

SPEAKER_06 57:47

And were you ha were you were you happy to see?

SPEAKER_02 57:50

Well, I thought it was really hilarious because they have this dis can we talk about it? Yes. What year was it? 91. 91. 91. And and do we know any of the main people?

SPEAKER_06 57:59

Uh I do you mean like the actors? Mm-hmm. I shoot. I know uh what's his name? Louis Fon or a fan.

SPEAKER_02 58:05

Was he the dad? Or the warden, assistant warden?

SPEAKER_06 58:07

No, he was the he was Ricky.

SPEAKER_02 58:09

Oh.

SPEAKER_06 58:09

Yeah, I can't remember his actual real name. I would butcher it anyway. Yeah. He was in, so he was in, he's done like over a hundred movies. Like he's a those movie, the way the way those movies work, those movies, but the way like a lot of martial art, let's just say foreign movies, especially in the 90s, like there's these just there's there's a treasure trove of there is no I was laughing at something I wanted to say. Oh, say it.

SPEAKER_03 58:38

In Japan, we just call them movies.

SPEAKER_06 58:43

Nice. Brazil nuts reference.

SPEAKER_05 58:47

Okay, anyway, sorry.

SPEAKER_06 58:48

So we just call them nuts. Alright, so there's all the I mean, there's I I wrote down in my notes somewhere, which I'm I'm abandoning. When people when people ask me, because I quit doing jujitsu, and I'll get back into it at some point, but people say, Why'd you quit? And I my answer now has always been it's been as of late, if there were 36 hours in the day, I'd still be doing jujitsu. If there were 38 hours in the day, I would watch a movie like this every day.

SPEAKER_02 59:18

I've not heard you say that answer before. I like it.

SPEAKER_06 59:20

Thank you. I love this kind of crap. I I love I love watching movies that that I don't want to say it's it's so bad it's good kind of stuff, but I love just watching these extreme this is like somebody's baby. Oh yeah and they just wanted to they went they went for it. They went for it, and apparently it's pretty true to so this is this is like Is it based on true story? No, it's uh it's a comic, a Japanese comic. Oh, yeah. They just call them comics manga, manga. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 59:53

Uh that's that's the word well you did tell me that after like a graphic it's not a graphic novel.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:00

I think it's a graphic novel. Maybe it's been at some at some point. They made they made it an animated. There's two animated movies that I think preceded this. This is the obvious the line of the street.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:10

Is Ricky O, the main, is he the the he is.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:13

Is he the thing? It means like the king of strength or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:16

Oh I would t I would agree with that.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:18

Yeah. He's pr he's strong like a king of a lot of stuff. By the time you were what does his master say? I'm not gonna I don't remember his name, but he the guy who trained him, he's like You're strong as a big thing. When you were seven or eight, you were strong as a bull. So I decided uh which is why we called you Rick.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:37

But then you got even stronger, so we called you Ricky. I love the subtitles. I know I can't help but think.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:45

Oh my gosh, the subtitles were so much was lost in Germany.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:47

Just a quick shot back to Die Hard. Just a quick little shot. Apparently the German was so bad in that, like so grammatically incorrect. Oh, that like it was just basically just pure gibberish. And I I'm wondering if if that could happen in a you know a you know, whatever the budget was for that 60 million, 90 million.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:07

Then what what do we what did we get right when we watched this?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:12

You mean when they when they translated it into German for people in Germany to watch?

SPEAKER_06 1:01:16

Because they were all speaking, they were all speaking German. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:19

But are you saying that the people that were speaking German were speaking gibberish in the movie?

SPEAKER_06 1:01:23

Yes. Yes. Apparently, that's what I read.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:27

The subtitle there's so much lost in the subtitles.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:31

The subtitles, oh, they're very um, they really explain a lot.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:35

You know, they'll be like and I like love my favorite thing is like the casual tone of what they're saying, but they're like murdering someone. It's like no one would ever talk like that in the midst of that type of action.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:50

I well, or when he like with the assistant warden, who's got quite the pornography collection, by the way. You don't see you could watch this. Uh if if you don't care about violence, you could watch this with your kids.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:02

I would not watch this with my kids.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:04

It doesn't have any swearing. I think this and it doesn't have any sex, except for just what I think is a porn collection behind this guy. Just to show how bad it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:14

Well, there's a there's a scene like where they're gonna assault this girl.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:17

There's assault really rare. Oh, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:19

And nothing happens. And then she kills herself. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't watch it with your kids. Just take it from me. That's my tip for the day. Don't watch Ricky O with your family.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:27

This is the first, I believe the first category three movie released from Hong Kong.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:33

Uh I thought it was Japanese.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:35

Or, shoot, wait a minute. I think it's in Cantonese.

unknown 1:02:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:41

But it's I I don't I don't understand. I'll just say it right now. I don't understand Cantonese. Cantonese. I don't understand why it'd be in Cantonese and but a Japanese movie, I don't I don't hang on, I probably wrote it all down. But I'm not gonna look for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:56

Question if you wrote it all down, why don't you remember if you wrote it down?

SPEAKER_06 1:03:01

D dude, do you want me to go back into the how I train AI and so you didn't write it down? Well, I did I did. I did, but I I I had a conversation where I was trying to understand. I get so much crap. I get AI pisses me off so much. Because it's like on one hand, I rely on it heavily. On the other hand, I keep trying to make it do these crazy things and basically untangle my brain.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:24

Sorry.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:25

But I kept I kept talking, I'm like, why is it in Cantonese and Japan, but it's a Japanese, you know, story. And the I don't know. I couldn't get a straight answer. I because I I'm sure the answer is out there somebody knows, but I I don't I don't know, and I I'm limited to what's on the internet and like half of the like they said like Johns Hopkins uses this movie for their research. It's in their like the official medical library because for anatomy, because it's so ultraviolet, and it's that that's not true. Like I of course it's not true. I looked through the the library that apparently this was in. It's not it's not a thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:02

So that's the kind of stuff I'm like Johns Hopkins live like online. Briefly out of online catalog.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:07

I don't know if I was at the right place, but I couldn't find murky oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:10

Is it Alice?

unknown 1:04:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:13

We should ask Garrett if he had to watch that at Cleveland Clinic.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:16

But this is a category three movie. Yeah. Garrett's all of Merky Oh, yeah. He's at a time. That's how I learned how to put people to sleep. By punching holes in them. In them. Okay. Punching holes in people. I think that's a cool thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:32

Yeah, that's a really good thing. I like it when he punches through his chin and somehow doesn't knock his whole jaw off, and then later that person talks.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:43

Well, he doesn't talk well though.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:45

Yeah, but he should be dead.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:46

Ricky like tries to save everybody who he mutilates. Can I I couldn't quite figure out who he was friends with and who he wasn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:56

Okay, well, could let me just give a quick, quick overview of the movie because I feel like it's something I'm good at on this podcast.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:02

Yeah, please. Tell me that I am. No, please do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:04

It opens and they're uh they're bringing some prisoners, some new prisoners in, and they go through this whole thing, and it but there's also a quick disclaimer that lets you know that all prisons have been privatized and 2001, yeah. And so now they're just running them like, you know, private companies, however they want. No government influence or whatever.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:28

Yeah, there's a lot of other movies that have done that with the privatized, like escape plan or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:32

Because apparently I mean, apparently the internet would have us believe that privatized jails are not it. Lots of corruptions can grow. Corruptions. A privatized jail is a cancer. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:46

So you might say it is, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:49

So anyway, he gets in there and he sets off the metal detector, and I think that's when we get to see his chest for and abs for the first time.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:57

Dude's jacked.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:58

He's jacked. He looks like a little mini hunk.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:00

Yeah, I don't think he's that big of a dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:02

No, how could he be?

SPEAKER_06 1:06:03

He's aged well though. Like I saw he was in uh It Man. Uh have you seen that?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:08

IP.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:10

You have?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:10

I think we watched it.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:11

We probably did. It's a Donnie movie. He's in it. He's you know, well, he um I'm one with the Force of Forces Yes, yes, yes. Uh he he is in Lewis Fawn, if I'm saying his name right, forgive me, Lewis, if not. Lewis Ricky. Ricky is in that movie. He's in the second one too. And he's great, he's pretty great in it. He's um he's like the one of the main villain, not the main villain, but like he's this it doesn't matter. Yeah. But but he's in he he he made it to Hollywood too. Well yeah, you know what movie? What attrition, starring Steven Segal.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:48

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:49

It's not good.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:50

The more podcasts we do, the more I realize everything's connected.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:55

The ultimate blues man, Steven Segal.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:59

Uh okay, so he gets doesn't make it through the metal detector because he has five gun bullets in his chest.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:06

Gun bullets. The worst kind of bullets.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:10

And so they take him and they explain to him how it works, the hierarchy. And then like literally the first violent scene is uh just this poor old man with glasses who built a toy for his family, and all he wants is to have parole so he can see his family, but instead the boss of whatever level they're on the North Tower or the North Cell or Well, and he's not even the main boss. He's just like an underling guy. He just like beats the tar out of him and hits him in the face with a plane, like a P like uh PLA.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:52

Not a plane like it's airplane, not an air one, not a wood one, but not a wooden airplane, a just a plane. But not an airplane.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:59

No, he was using it to make the toy. I'm doing I'm sliding one hand across the other like a planing motion. Anyway, those things are gonna complain. My dad I hope they did.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:12

I would not want to get hit in the face with one, that's for sure. Especially if that was an old man.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:15

It didn't, it looked like it it looked like he got hit in the face with an iron. It didn't really look like he got his face planed.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:24

Do do we want to start nitpicking the gore in this?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:27

Yeah, why why? As we go. Okay. So then is it really is it right after that Ricky comes in and tries to save that guy?

SPEAKER_06 1:08:35

Well, he doesn't really even try to save him. He just trips the dude who did it to him. Yeah, the guy falls over, gets a nail through his hand and his eyeball, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:45

Where did that thing come from? It was like a board with several nails sticking out of it.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:49

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:50

It's probably also do prisoners get to have stuff like planes? Or any woodworking tools of any kind?

SPEAKER_06 1:08:58

The guards did not seem to be the least bit concerned.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:00

No, they didn't. I guess everybody was on the prisoner.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:01

They were like, he's such a nuisance.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:03

Yeah, yeah. Is that what they actually said? It's such a nuisance. What a nuisance. So he ends up getting killed. That the toy train guy.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:15

Yeah, eventually. It doesn't happen right then and there.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:17

No, but uh he does.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:19

He uh hangs himself.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:20

He does.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:21

There's gonna be some spoilers. I'm sorry. This is very violent too, so this is like seriously, this is the first from what I could find anyway, if uh this might be a Johns Hopkins reference, but it was like a it if one of the first eighteen eighteen and older movies to be released in this. It's like a it's like our equivalent of like in C17.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:41

Okay. Well, it was ridiculous. So then after that, then the the the the guy that beat up the train guy, now he's gonna come after Ricky O because he got his face nailed up with those nails.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:55

I think they hire uh silly uh silly lung. Silly lung.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:59

What a name. He's like this big sumo wrestler looking dude. And he's in solitary because he just ate a horse.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:06

Horse? That or he was bored and he ate a horse. They I think they just really wanted to make it known that he ate a that this guy could eat a horse.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:14

But they made it seem like he was in solitary because he ate a horse. Okay. I mean, that's that's what I that was what I took away from it.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:20

I'm fine with that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:22

So I'm glad we didn't watch it dubbed over.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:24

Where was there a horse?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:26

I know, this prison is a crazy.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:27

I didn't see a single horse in this place.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:28

Prison is a crazy place.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:30

Huh.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:30

So they get him out, and he's tries to fight Ricky, and Ricky How does Ricky he punches a hole in his abdomen across the front of his abdomen. Is that what happens?

SPEAKER_06 1:10:42

Yeah, well, he punches a hole straight through him, but it kind of tears, it like leaves a big gash. Gash. I wouldn't again, I wouldn't put I wouldn't worry too much about the wound patterns in somebody. Sure. We can. We we can. Um I don't think What is your concern? Well, here's the he hits him, he does he die from that?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:06

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:08

I don't remember what Silly Long.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:09

Yeah, I can't remember how Silly Lung actually met his end.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:11

Poor Silly Lung.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:13

So then the you know, then the next person he has to.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:15

Silly Lung reminds me a little bit of uh Shaolin Soccer. Did you see that?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:20

You know the guy who okay, well I can't remember. He was in Kung Fu Hustle, too.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:25

I think he was like No, I do get those two movies confused.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:27

But he's I think he's in both of them. He's the dude from Shaolin Soccer. This is not who Silly Long is, but he reminds me of him. Um who he gets like that. I love that movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:39

Maybe we should watch that again.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:40

Kung Fu Hu. This actually this movie's a lot like Kung Fu Hustle, except I'm Kung Fu sorry, Kung Fu Hustle might be a little better.

unknown 1:11:47

Kung Fu hustle.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:48

Maybe.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:48

Who will?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:49

Maybe.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:49

This is like Kung Fu Hustle Meet Chips.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:51

Maybe we should watch him back to back. Maybe we should turn them on at the same time on two different TVs that are next to each other. Watch Kung Fu Hustle. Do you think John would let us use his basement?

SPEAKER_06 1:12:04

You could leave uh your ticker running. Foos ball on or whatever. Foosball. Alright, continue.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:10

Alright, so then does he end up killing the main the guy that killed the train guy?

SPEAKER_06 1:12:18

At some point he gets There's some scene where the guy comes.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:21

He makes him fight he goes to see the warden, the assistant warden, and he pits him back up against the train guy.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:28

No, he pits him up against one of the gang of four, the dude with the super buff dude. He ends up Oh yeah, I was gonna ask you, does that man He punches a hole in him too?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:38

And then the guy re No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's beating him up real bad. So the the whole thing. Ricky Oh's getting beat up. The porn guy. The the guy who assistant warden? The assistant warden. The guy who just really likes to spill his drinks.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:51

Also he has a.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:52

He eats the rarest steak. Like he added blood to that steak.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:55

He definitely was Kool-Aid. It was a syrup. He injected it with syrup. He also has a fake eye in which he keeps mints. Mince. So he takes his eye out to get his mints out.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:07

Can you imagine listening to this and having no context of having watched this movie? And then we just said he keeps mince in his fake eye.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:15

I love this movie. I've watched this movie twice this week.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:23

I would have been on the fence until I heard someone say he keeps mince in his eye. And then I'd be like, you know what? I think I want to watch it.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:29

I first watched this movie. I don't I was trying to remember when. I'm trying to remember how I even heard of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:34

God, I'm sure your mom she would have snapped that VHS all to pieces.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:38

I think this is like a this is one of those I I learned so much from my friend's older brothers back in this because you were the older brother. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:48

So you didn't have anyone to learn from.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:49

I think this was Pat. I think Pat might have shared this story with me. This this movie with me. I don't think I actually watched it until I found a copy of it on like Limewire. I've been I've wanted to see this movie for so long. And I finally found a copy of it on like some peer-to-peer sharing.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:05

Did it disappoint?

SPEAKER_06 1:14:06

No, I loved it. Yeah. Yeah, it was exactly what I wanted.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:09

So the warden is like this kind of a fat greasy guy. He has mints in his eye.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:15

It's apparently Louis Fawn's dad. I don't know if it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:17

I could not tell.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:18

I couldn't. No, they don't look alike.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:22

Now here's the thing on the same physical. There were several characters throughout the movie who were like begging for mercy. And this must be a cultural thing because it's like they just got the crap beat out of them and they go to that person and hug their leg. Yeah. And I'm gonna be like, why would you go near the person that's hitting you? But it just must be. There was a live pea. We saw some live pea. We saw a butt in the shower.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:45

Things are really heating up.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:48

But this anyway, right? Like this guy does the uh what do you call it?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:51

We would talk about my thing. Oh like clinging to the leg, begging for mercy. I let it die. Well, we work fine.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:00

He clinks to a guy's leg. He begs for mercy. He peas.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:04

You said the pee part, not me.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:06

Sorry, bro bro uh broccoli.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:08

Oh, Broccoli Burps, broccoli burps. Keep going. Alright, so the real warden is out of town. He's in Hawaii.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:15

Yeah, with his son.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:16

With his son. And so they're just he's Ricky O just keeps getting pitted up against all these um different gang bosses throughout the prison. Yeah, and then oh, when he kills he kills the jacked up guy. And he befriends that guy's like number one.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:34

Yeah, he doesn't kill him. Or his assistant. He he he beats him down.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:39

He does he kill himself?

SPEAKER_06 1:15:41

He Yeah, he kills himself. He does the uh camera with with the that there's a name for it.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:46

He dies on his own sword or whatever.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:47

Yeah. Um I don't anyways. He stabs himself and then runs it up and then pulls his own intestines. And tries to strangle Ricky with them. Which is a lot like uh the only I'm trying to think of other movies I've seen that have done that. I know Machete, I think, did that. Except he took somebody's intestines out and no, he didn't strangle them. He ran with them and used them as like a rappel. Like he ran out of a window.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:17

Stop, stop, stop, stop. Anyways. Stop. That was a bit more realistic than the It was not realistic at all. More than this description. Maybe a little. That makes me sick. It's not. Movies are the first time, the first time I ever even knew about intestines being all that long was in my sophomore history class. It was uh AP history. And it was US history, which at the time I thought was incredibly boring. Kind of still do to some extent, but I found some interesting pockets. Like hardcore history. Oh, uh you know what I always just thought history in general sucked, but it's pretty cool. Anyway, my teacher read a chapter of of a book to us about it was like a Native American versus like a you know white person, and they were Oh they I can't remember if they did this to the Native American or if the Native American did it to the white person, but um they took his intestines out and then used his own intestines to tie him to a tree.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:20

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um I don't know exactly what that's for. I've definitely heard that reference before. You you we should we gotta read Empire of the Summer Moon sometime. That movie book, rather, is I I uh there's some Native American torture that is I feel like we should put a disclaimer at the top of this one.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:37

If you don't like intestine talk, this is not the one for you. So anyway, then he dies through that fight, and then he goes against all these other people, but then it's oh oh after that guy dies, sorry, go back. His little assistant, his little buddy, he has no tongue, and he really wanted to whistle on that leaf the way Ricky O could do. Ricky O gets a leaf out and he basically plays it like a symphony.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:59

Ricky's an amazing flute player.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:01

He is an amazing flute player and leaf player and leaf player, but though I didn't know a person could make so many sounds on the leaf. And the best thing. You're right. I should take a leaf to work. Maybe that's something I haven't tried. Maybe that would help jazz up my my love for my job. Okay, so one thing I noticed though is that every time someone's making a noise on an instrument, it is not synced up with what their face is doing. Like they're like they'll start blowing on the flute, and then like 30 seconds later, then the flute will make a noise.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:32

Well, he's playing the leaf in Cantonese.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:34

Oh, is that why I couldn't understand that? So it's gotta be So it's just very poorly dubbed over with the music and the leaf playing.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:40

But anyway, then this is the guy the guy's running around Oh my gosh, but he has the literally skipping around. He gives him the flute.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:48

Yeah. Because he has no tongue, he can't whistle the f the leaf, so but he gives him the flute, which all you have to do is blow into that. You don't need your tongue for that. It teaches him how, and then they're like Do you need your tongue for a flute?

SPEAKER_06 1:19:00

I feel like you might. You know more about it than I do. Flute playing.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:03

Uh they use their tongues for sure, but I'm wondering if you could still just blow through a simple like recorder type thing and still make noise.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:12

I'm gonna say yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:13

I think so too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:14

Based on what we saw in the movie, it looked like I mean like what are we doing?

Gore, Subtitles, And Cult Cinema Influences

SPEAKER_02 1:19:18

And he's literally skipping, jumping around, the flute music is going crazy, and he half the time doesn't even have the flu to his mouth. It's so stupid. And then they're like, oh no, he betrayed us for Ricky.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:31

Well, because of the opium. He he's like, I uh here's some more leaves. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:35

He gives him a leaf, he gives him an opium leaf, and that's true.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:38

He discovers they have a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of the woman who why is there why is there a woman in that?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:44

Is she she is a woman for sure. But is she still are we supposed to think she's a woman?

SPEAKER_06 1:19:49

I think so. She's definitely a woman. Like like I've looked at her IMDb.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:53

Also, are they prisoners or are they just like working?

SPEAKER_06 1:19:56

Well, yeah, because they because at the end they had they had to be ushered in. Had to be moved as well. Like when they were like ringing the alarms and stuff, like the gang of four or three in this case.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:07

I'm pretty sure they're under the same. I think they get more I think they get more allowances.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:13

Yeah. They can they have more murder allowances.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:16

Yeah, more murder allowances. But anyways.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:17

So yeah, so then they're like, he finds out about the OBM, and then you get some backstory, finally.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:23

Well, they skin him alive, basically. Oh, right.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:27

They skin the flute player alive.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:29

The tongueless flute player.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:30

And you only see a little bit of that.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:32

No, you see like his entire body skinned alive.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:34

Well, I mean like them doing it.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:36

Oh yeah, they don't really show that, do they?

SPEAKER_06 1:20:39

No. Well, they kind of like do this thing where like all of a sudden this lower half of his face just disappears.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:44

Like just he looks like Mr. Goodbody. Slim Goodbody? Yeah. Slim Goodbody.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:50

Nice. Yeah, Slim Goodbody's in this. He plays a tongueless flu player.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:56

Dancing tongueless flu player. So anyway, so then you get some backstory on Ricky. The reason he's so upset. Well, the reason he's in jail is because his girlfriend saw some people dealing with opium, I guess.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:17

Shooting it up. Heroin. Heroin. Heroin. Is opium heroin?

SPEAKER_06 1:21:21

Heroin is an opiate. Okay. No, uh op uh it's made from opium.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:27

Okay. So she witnesses it.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:29

I think it's fair to say it's like what crack is to cocaine.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:33

Sure. It's whack.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:36

It's wokeane. I'm not allowed to move my foot. Sorry. Uh so many rules here. This podcast is hard. So anyway, she tries to run away so so nobody sees that she just saw this drug dealing going down. But they catch her. That's when they're gonna assault her. And then the drug dealer they take her to says something ridiculous like, If you had found an old woman, would you have brought her to me too? Yeah, I don't it doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:04

There's some of the word like I I'm backing up just a little bit, but that guy when he's using the this this movie is kind of realistic in the sense that they do have people using the restaurant.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:12

Oh, that's true.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:13

It is that guy comes out. I wrote down what he said for Batum. He said, uh after he's done taking a crab, he strolls out and he's just like dancing and kind of and he says a pl and he sings this, I think. I think he sings it. He says, A playboy keeps going to the toilet not knowing if he needs to or not. It's a great fortune cookie. So the subtitles here.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:39

What do you think? What do you think that was supposed to say? What do you think they were really saying? Do you think it was that?

SPEAKER_06 1:22:47

I hope that was it. I hope that's just some sort of colloquial words.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:51

Playboy keeps going in the toilet.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:53

Not knowing if he needs to or not. There's so much, there's so much cool stuff like that in this. That might be one of the better ones.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:03

That's definitely a top three. It might be a top one.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:06

That's great. Oh, Ricky also, there's a point. So we're talking about body part stuff. I know we're talking about his girlfriend, but uh what's her own tendons together together so he can use his hand again. And he there's a lot that reminded me of like uh remember Hobo with a shotgun?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:23

Um, the girl like her like bones are sticking out and she uses them as like a leverage to like lift a manhole cover or something. Something like that. Oh, people's using their bodies is just like different ways. In different ways.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:38

Just a movie where people use their bodies in different ways. So they start to like they're gonna assault the sexually assault this girl, and so she gets away, and apparently her only choice was to jump off a bridge.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:52

It's got a serious Death Wish 2 vibes. I don't think you've seen that one, but that's a very disturbing movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:56

I don't think I ever want to see that. So anyway, so she so she dies, and then Ricky O tracks down the drug dealers responsible, who were of course selling this heroine, and he shoots, he kills, he successfully kills them, but they not but not before they get five bullets into him, none of which kill him.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:14

None of which even seemed to bother him.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:16

Right, he just keeps going.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:17

He looks I got real Hawkeye vibes off of that. I would I wrote down in my notes I would like to see him and Hawkeye in like some sort of crossover universe. Take do you remember when they found Hawkeye right? This was in the beginning of when he was bad. Yeah, well, in my opinion, good. He was awesome. He was like killing all the Yakus up by himself. If Ricky O and and Hawkeye teamed up.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:40

Oh, I was thinking about when he was his like mind was possessed, but this was just when he was kind of like a low soldier.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:45

I think he's, yeah, it was his he lost his whole family. Yeah.

unknown 1:24:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:48

Little Frank Castley.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:49

But he was wearing like a poncho, I think. He was basically like a ninja. Yeah. Like uh Rick Ricky O had a more of like a Liu Kang mixed with Metal Gear Solid kind of vibe going on, but Rambo maybe.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:01

So so now you know why he's in jail, because he got he did get arrested for that, and he'd so now he's serving time, but now he finds out that he's in the very jail where they manufacture, so he burns the poppy fill to the ground.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:14

That gets their attention.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:16

The warden comes home early from Hawaii with this charming little boy. Still so much more to tell. Um time is it's like eight o'clock. Oh gosh, it's 7 02.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:29

Okay, you go.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:30

So he has a scene. That's fine. So so they all line up and wait for the warden. And it's like this completely unnecessary scene where they they've been waiting for the warden so long that they're like all sleeping, it's been hours. And then the warden finally comes and they just snap back to attention. It's like, why did you why was there a fire in the middle of the room?

SPEAKER_06 1:25:46

I think there was a I think in the that scene was one of the times where the guy throws up another glass.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:51

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:52

He just keeps dumping water out and throwing water and throwing juice.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:56

So then the warden, the real warden, the head warden, gets out with his son. Now, the head warden to me looks the most gangster.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:04

Like he looks like You know, he looks kind of like James Hong a little bit. He looks like a poor man's James. Um David Lopez.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:10

Oh.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:11

That's who plays him.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:13

He has more of a thin, stretched-out face.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:15

He has. Okay. His hair.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:19

What's up with that?

SPEAKER_06 1:26:21

Like, they it was clearly growing back. Like they shaved it to make it look like he was bald on top. But it was growing back. Why didn't they just shave it? Why didn't they live stubble?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:32

Yeah, they made him have like monk hair. And they shaved it like he was bald on top. And it just kept growing. Yeah, it was so funny. So his son is like, how old do you think we're supposed to think he is? He's dressed like he's eight. He's dressed like he's eight.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:49

He's probably looked at it. He looks like he could honestly. If you said that he was 26. Yeah. When they filmed us, I remember.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:55

He's got knee socks on and plaid short suit with like, you know, like he slipped out of some like Victorian London.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:02

He's got like a he's got uh Augustus gloop mixed with Veronica Salt. Like Veruca. Verucca. Verucca salt, kind of like mixed with you know, he reminds me of uh never mind.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:17

He doesn't look like his father.

unknown 1:27:18

No, he doesn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:19

His dad's like six foot tall, skinny, and he is just like this beach ball outfit at the end.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:25

He never gets it, does he? The son.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:28

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:29

I don't think he does. I think he c crawls into one of those little escape things.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:34

So then he so then he calls Ricky O in. And I is that in the kitchen? I can't I can't. I'm kind of losing the the thread.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:43

Can we back up a little bit and talk about the cemetery scene?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:46

Oh my gosh, when he gets trained by his uncle.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:49

That was great.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:51

And they're just absolutely desecrating this cemetery.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:56

Throwing tombstones for target practice.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:59

You know what? I'm gonna say we're gonna take three minutes to show you how to basically be invincible for life. But we have to do it here. And then we're going to all these tombstones here? We're gonna wreck it for them at all. Incredible fashion. A little breathing technique.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:18

Yeah, the uncle just picks up tombstones and throws them at Ricky O and Ricky O just destroys them and my favorite way is when he punches a hole through them, but it somehow stays intact around like he's in the stocks.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:31

So great. It's freaking awesome, man. What a movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:34

What a movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:35

So you know he's good.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:36

Tell me what happens after the warden gets there. Is that when he puts him in the cage? And then the ceiling of the cage, the ceiling of the jail cell starts to crush him.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:44

Yeah, he's fighting that dude that looks like a barbarian kind of uh trying to think who he looked like. He almost he kind of gives off Zangy fives a little bit from Street Fighter 2. Oh, speaking of Street Fighter 2, um M. Bison. Uh do you know who that is?

SPEAKER_00 1:28:59

No.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:00

Oh, well, Bison's one of the like the he's played by Raul Julia in uh in the movie. Never mind. Okay. Anyways, he was inspired by this. This movie had an influence on people. Edgar Wright, the guy who made like um Sean of the Dead and Hot Fuzz.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:18

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:18

Like he said this is like his like it's above ranking. Like it's his favorite movie over there. It's S tier. Yeah, S tier, yeah. Um Mortal Kombat. You know, you know when they're when he's punching, like they do like the X-ray, like the bones breaking.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:32

Are you sure it's recording?

SPEAKER_06 1:29:34

Yeah, it's red. Yeah, like the bones are breaking, like the see-through.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:39

I just feel like the t the time isn't ticking by. Um I have you have to look.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:44

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:45

Okay, good. So sorry. So bones are breaking.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:48

You know, like he punches the dude in the face, and the his you do you see like an X-ray vision?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:54

Oh, yeah. That's a great scene.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:56

Mortal Kombat took that in like Mortal Kombat 9 or something like that. And from that that point forward, they've always used it. So this movie has like it's it's the cult status previo prior to the internet. I mean, this is not exactly before the internet, but it's before the internet we know today.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:11

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:12

Like, anyways, continue.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:13

Well, regardless where then so then he somehow gets put in a jail, so Oh yeah, with the with the ceilings coming down. And then that other guy, well, that other guy's in there with him, or he busts in.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:25

The dude, it's after he punched the he's the guy who's gonna be. He's one of the ones he tries to save. He's the guy, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:30

And he tries to save him after he's like almost kills him.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:32

The dude is like, I think he's missing a leg. He's talking out of a hole in his chin, and he's just like And Ricky's like, come on, come on, come on. He set him off fire. Does he I don't remember?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:44

He sets other people on fire.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:45

Yeah, okay.

unknown 1:30:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:46

There's a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:48

Oh, but they were like one of the guys that he was fighting to the death, they were they crucified.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:52

And then he was Sort of, they kind of chained him to a cross. Yeah, well, that's the biggest cross.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:58

It's a cross.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:01

The size of the watchstep memorial. And then he picks it up out of the ground from the base and gently lowers it down onto its back as if the weight couldn't But he's stopped by like a quarter inch layer of concrete later in the movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:15

Yeah. Oh yeah, for that's when they they spray him with concrete. They spray him with concrete. That's right. And they're like, get him out of the like the other bad guy. He's like, get him out of the concrete. This'll set on him or whatever. He won't be able to move. And then he that's when he's in the that's when he's in the jail, but then he busts out of it later. This is so ridiculous.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:33

They rev they got him in all this rebar.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:36

Like this rebar thing. They're hitting him with a wrench. They stuff his mouth full of razor blades.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:41

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:41

And then start smacking him again. Yeah, tape his mouth shut, smack him with razor blades. He's got razor blades coming out of his face. This is Ricky, the main character. Yeah. And then Ricky spits the razor blades on the warden's face. Oh right. The warden's covered in razor blades. And uh and then uh and then they bury him, right? They bury him.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:02

Yeah, I don't remember the order of all the stuff.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:04

With a breathing tube. Which is just a bamboo. But it's just a piece of bamboo.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:10

Oxygen tube.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:11

An oxygen tube. And they bury him for seven days to see if he's gonna make it. And and and and and then there's a dog. There's a dog patrolling the area.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:24

And the the the woman presumably on the side of all the bad people.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:28

And the woman, the one of the gang of four, runs in, kicks the dog, literally kicks the dog in half.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:36

Into two pieces.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:37

And the guy who's with her is like, you're that's terrific. And and then she takes the dog's heart and stuffs the quote unquote oxygen tube that so Ricky can't breathe. But then Ricky somehow, they don't say how, I don't believe, splits the tube after they leave.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:56

And then like kind of swallows the heart. Yeah. Kind of he's got the heart in his mouth, but just like, what the why can't you just dig out of the soft soil?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:08

It's like people were throwing like spadefuls of dirt on him. Like the kind you would use in a flower garden.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:15

That would have taken forever.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:16

I know.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:16

But they so to the point, because they get a freaking earth mover to show up later to pack it down.

Final Fight, Meat Grinder, And Aftermath

SPEAKER_02 1:33:22

Yeah. But the best part of the extras, when all the prisoners are in the scene, they must have given them one direction. They must have been like, say this phrase and move your arm like this. Because as they're like panning into the scene, that like every prisoner is like moving their right arm in the same exact same way. And they're all saying the same phrase at different times. So you just hear them saying duggy or something with some sort of line dance. Or dancing. And it's like that like every prisoner scene, they're all just like ad-living the same two motions. It's so funny. Um but so then he has a big epic kitchen fight where they'll use like steam to hurt people. Oh, and the meat grinder.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:58

Oh, you're talking about like the final scene?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:00

Well, yeah, I feel like we're 7-10, boy.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:03

Because we still gotta talk about the impressions. Okay, let's let's let's just wrap it up with the big fight.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:09

So the warden's been taking these pills the whole time. I think it's keeping himself from hulking out. He turns into this basically gore troll.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:18

Who looks like a troll. He's like um The costume that they put him in is hilarious. It looks like they bought it at a discount store.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:28

They bought the same store they bought Carl Havocks.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:30

Or Picard at the Inner Light. At the end of the inner light.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:36

Nah, he did look way better than the bad. More like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:40

I wish Sir Patrick Stewart played the warden.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:42

Oh my gosh, that would have been great. He turned into a troll. So anyway, he turns into a troll. He's like now he's like seven feet tall, but like his costume is like, as they're filming the scene, the costume is literally falling apart. You can see that's like coming untucked from his pants. It looks like he's just wearing like a rubber shell. It's just so flapping.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:03

He's got like, like you said, why does he have to have so much snot coming out of his face?

SPEAKER_02 1:35:07

It's like huge mucus thing streaming down his face. But you can see the mask, and like he's talking, and so you can hear what he's saying, and you can read the subtitles, but the mask is just like barely opening and closing, like it's not there's no attempt at like lips or anything like that. It's so bad. Um Ricky gets him, finally gets him into the meat grinder.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:26

Punches a course, punches a hole in him, punches a hole in him, punches another hole in him, picks him up with those holes. With those holes, throws him in the meat grinder, and then for like ten minutes stops him just and he's alive the whole time. Pushing him down.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:42

And said, but he doesn't even finish the head.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:44

Everywhere. Yeah. Well he takes the head because he can show everybody.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:48

Apparently, in that scene, this is another, you know, take this with a grain of salt.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:53

Did you learn this at John Hopkins? Apparently it took John Hopkins. The librarian at the John Hops is like, oh, one more thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:02

Go ahead, Mary. You've taught me so much today. Apparently it took three days to get the blood off of him. He had so much blood on him.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:11

Was it real blood?

SPEAKER_06 1:36:12

I don't think.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:13

Then she'd use hydrogen peroxide. That gets blood out.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:15

The blood actually didn't look that bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:17

It looked like he looked better as it in the meat grinder than he had in his troll costume. So Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:26

It was just a and then he goes out and he shows the head to everybody, throws it, punches a hole in the wall of the prison.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:36

Like the exterior wall of the prison.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:37

Yeah. And that's it. And they all go out free.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:40

That's it. That's the end of the movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:42

It was um did you did you would you like to watch more movies like this? Every now and then?

SPEAKER_02 1:36:47

Every now and then, like once a year.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:49

Once a year. Yeah. Would you settle for a quarter? No. Once a quarter.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:53

Once a quarter? Every bi-yearly. Okay, we'll talk. Biannually.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:59

We'll talk about it. Okay. Alright, so should we move on? We better. Anything, yeah. I'd love to I got a couple more notes here, but what we'll we we don't have time. Rickyo, check out Rickyo, the story of Ricky. Um if you if you're familiar with I honestly would I'm kind of curious to check out the animated movies. I bet they're pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:18

Um that sounds like a good bike riding movie for you.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:21

I actually don't think this movie is this movie's terrible. I get it. Right. I'm not gonna sit and tell somebody this is a great movie. Right. I wouldn't tell anyone that.

Song Of The Week: I’m So Proud

SPEAKER_02 1:37:29

But it's it has merits.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:32

I think yeah, I like I think it's better than I think there's so much that's lost on us.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:37

Maybe like why he would say.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:39

I do honestly think that they have to like using violence as like yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:43

Oh, another thing they say, uh like every time Ricky does anything like for the common man, they're like, Ricky's great. Ricky's great, you're great, Ricky.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:51

They just explained there's never never any mystery about how anybody's feeling.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:55

No, okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:56

He punched me in the face without touching me. My nose hurts. Like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:03

Okay, anyways. I'm so proud Curtis Mayfield and and the Impressions, or were they just the Impressions?

SPEAKER_06 1:38:09

They used to originally it was uh I think it was Jerry Butler and the Impressions. Whoa. Before Curtis Mayfield came along. Anyways.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:19

I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:19

I don't know that for sure. They've they've had a kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:21

Tell us how this song came to make it onto the list.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:24

So uh long time ago when I was in college.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:29

Wow. I thought it was just gonna be Christmas break related.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:32

Oh. Well, I was just gonna say, oh, this song became on my radar. I didn't this isn't one of those oldies that did you know this song?

SPEAKER_02 1:38:38

Yes, kind of, but I always confuse it with another song, which I can't remember anymore now that I've learned this one.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:45

I mean, it was kind of a hit.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:46

I just meant this iPhone, but you can talk about college.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:49

Oh well, let me just real quick say I I had I I hadn't heard this song until I was probably about 20, 21. And I was talking to Wes, uh-huh, our mutual friend.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:02

Of course. Yeah. And Wes was like, I was in the computer lab in my my job. I used to work with Wes, and he was like, that dude over there, uh, I can't remember the guy's name, but he's like, he knows a lot about music. Like that dude knows all the time. And this is like Wes knows quite a bit about music himself, so I was just like, oh really? Like, he's like he he can he he can recommend any he's recommended so many great bands and artists to me over the over the past few months.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:29

And people, this is like pre upstreaming music.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:32

This is like this guy is like why like like he's your recording.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:38

This whole thing, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:39

This is the dude I want to get anyways. This so I go in and introduce myself to this dude. He's like this short little nerdy looking stoner. I don't know if he's a stoner. Everybody I think that was within my universe was a stoner at the time. At least I thought they were. Anyways, but I saw I introduced myself. I'm like, hey, Wes uh Wes tells me you uh you know tell a lot about music. Well yeah, I I really like music a lot. He's like super nice. I said, and you and then you can make recommendations for people. He's like, sure, yeah, I can try. He's super humble. He's really nice. And I said, Well he's like, What do you what are you looking for? I'm like, Well, I like uh I like I like the doo op sound. I like soul, like old soul music, like sixties music. He's like, Okay. He said, uh if you like doo-wop and you like uh and you like soul, he's like, you like the impressions? I'm like, I I know I know of them, like I know a couple of their their hits. He's like, just get he's like you you gotta listen to all. He's like, just get their greatest hits, get their greatest hits, and they're all great. And it is it's a freaking great, great band. I love them immediately. And this song was probably my favorite one. So whoever you are, buddy.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:50

Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:51

Thank you. I think Wes listened to like five minutes of our first podcast. It's just like, nope. It's like, I don't know what you guys are doing. It's just like so Wes, if you uh let me know.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:03

We know you didn't know it's there if you remember. Um I'd like to write. Well, I actually just meant how did how tell us the lore on how we're gonna do.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:11

We had a xylophone at our house because our daughter is practicing for a percussion.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:17

She's in a percussion ensemble.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:19

Yeah, percussion ensemble, so she had to practice a xylophone.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:22

She hasn't yet, though.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:23

She hasn't. We have.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:24

We've used the heck out of it.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:26

I said we should do a song that features.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:28

Well, you said, can you play that thing? Yeah. As a matter of fact.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:31

That's right. Because it's like a piano, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:41:32

It is. It's set up like a piano. I'm not a good I'm not good at it by any stretch of the imagination. I I do understand how to play it and I make noise at the right time.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:41

Which is what the song called for. Uh and I said, can we do a song that can come in? Can we pick a song? Can we pick a song that that features a xylophone or has a I think I think in this particular in the actual recording, I think it's a vibraphone.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:02

Yeah. Uh Glockenspiel or something. It's a much higher pitch.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:06

But it's I think it's metal for sure. Vibrophone is a Glockenspiel.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:09

Glockenspiels are metal, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:10

Right. But oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:12

But um sorry.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:15

I'm swinging my leg, Robin's not like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:18

Uh and I said, Do you think we could do I'm so proud? And you listen to it, and you're like, Yeah, I think I can play that.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:23

I found the sheet music and everything right away.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:26

Yeah. And and we and you did a good job. I said, I need you to sing background vocals. I thought about getting Caroline or Clarkin to do horns, because it's the song's got a lot going on.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:37

It doesn't have that much going on.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:38

It doesn't, but it's got way more okay, you're right, totally. But it's got way in my in the way it is in my head, even after having listened to it three million times and performed it, it's such a lean song, kind of simple. But it's got drums, bass, guitar, glockenspiel, or vibrophone. It has I don't know what what what horns are there on it.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:02

But it's got horns on it.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:03

We don't remember hearing the horns.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:05

It has background vocals, it has, you know, because the impressions are essentially a singing group. This is not Jerry Butler is not on this one. I like, do you know Jerry Butler?

SPEAKER_02 1:43:12

I don't. So Curtis Mayfield.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:14

Anyway, anyways, um this is uh Sam Gooden is on it, and so is uh who's the other guy? Um Sam Gooden, Fred Cash. Yeah, and Johnny Pate probably played the vibone. I couldn't, it's so freaking hard to get inf information on who played what in these like the wrecking crew played with with these guys, apparently. Like it was, you know, the your buddies from well our dude uh Barty Kessel from uh Oscar Peterson Trio was in the wrecking crew. He did tons of stuff for like beating. Um Herbellus replaced him. Anyways, uh Herbellus wasn't I don't know, forget it. It's nothing to do with anything. Okay, so I love I just love this song. I love I love it. It the the harm the melody or the freaking yeah, the melody, the vocals. It's just it's just so nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:02

It's a very nice song. I agree.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:04

And it's it's a nice message, which I know sounds cheaty. It's a little like old school that kind of uncanny valley of of linguistics that I mentioned before, where you have like basic compliments to you from all the people we meet. Like, what a that what a nice young woman you have there. She's so well behaved. She's complimentary from all she stays when you tell her to stay.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:28

And is my word, my word shall obey.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:36

And I just love I love everything about this song. Um I love Curtis Mayfield. I like his the stuff he went on to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:44

So it was Curtis Mayfield was a very good thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:46

Freddy's Dad is one of my favorite songs of all time.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:48

People get ready.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:49

Yeah. People get ready is is great. That was I wanna say I think that was after this. I don't I thought it was before this.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:59

Well, pro you're probably right.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:01

I think it's before I think People Get Ready was before this. I'll check my out. Yeah, please check. I think this was I think this was the third Impressions album. I listened to the whole album a couple times, and uh it's fine. I I like the I mean I I don't think I've heard a great uh impression song I didn't like. Um even the ones that aren't that great are still pretty freaking delightful.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:22

This is I'm so proud was 63.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:24

63? And was people get ready? Yeah, you're probably right.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:29

I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:32

Um this was 63? I think I put 64.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:36

65 was people get ready.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:38

Okay, okay. My my apologies.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:40

The reason I thought that was because he was talked about how he became a bit more political.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:46

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:46

And so I was thinking that was definitely one of those they um not political, but you know, civil rights.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:54

Bob Marley covered a lot of Impression songs.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:57

Yeah, but that was gonna be what I said for the cover.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:59

I gotta keep on moving.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:02

Oh, okay. Uh that's on that's on this album.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:07

Is he dead?

SPEAKER_06 1:46:08

Yes. Yeah, he died in '99, maybe. He so he got uh some stage lighting fell on him and paralyzed him from the neck down.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:17

Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_06 1:46:18

And he had diabetes too. So they hit an amputation. There's this tragic story I read where like Curtis Mayfield is like he still wanted to sing, like he was still making music, but he would have to like lay down on his back and then have to mic him in a certain way that he'd have to sing like from a certain position since he was. Yeah, the dude's really interesting. Really real talent. He he he tuned his guitar and uh F sharp. He to tuned his guitar, open F sharp basically to the to the to the to the black keys on the piano.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:55

Yeah, you said that.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:57

I tried to uh I started to tune mine into open and it I the strings started making this like No, no. You know, I'm like no So I guess he used to use very, very like very light strings and guitars that were made to be able to you know crank up the tension on it, and he he had a whole surprise, you know, professional musician, he had a whole system in place, and but he used it to kind of because he's got a real unique voice, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:22

He's got a real Yeah, that's crazy falsetto.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:24

Yeah, um but he would kind of I was reading a little bit on on just why he tuned that way and why he turned to the body.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:31

I'd like to know why we had to play it in B, but it's all coming together now.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:34

Why?

SPEAKER_02 1:47:35

Well, because if he was used to playing with black notes, B has all kind of black notes in it.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:40

Oh, okay. Makes sense. Is is uh is the is the xylophone that was a xylophone, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:47:48

Yeah, that's right. Well, I I'm just gonna use the word xylophone as a family of instruments.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:54

When you say mallet based percussion Sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:58

No. No, I don't know. I really don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:02

Well, Jennings told me it was a but it was a xylophone.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:06

Oh, he did say it was a xylophone or you didn't tell me that.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:08

No, yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:09

I knew you texted him, but I didn't remember you saying what he said.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:13

I think we're gonna have to make uh Leslie things are Leslie messed up.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:16

Did you say that in real life though, or on the spot? Sure. Okay, well anyway, I really enjoyed playing it, and if we can ever have the chance to do some other different instruments, I would like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:28

Like if we if somebody leaves a flugal horn flute or of maybe some opium leaves.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:36

Yes. I hate to say I think I'm getting the hiccups.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:41

Well, do you want to uh did you listen to any we listened to the uh the album this was on, um which is which was see this is it's being stupid. It's not on the impressions, it's on the impressions keep moving or God freaking AI. Anyways, it's an okay album. It's an okay album. It's got lemon tree on it. I've only I've made you yeah, what were you what were you thinking?

SPEAKER_02 1:49:08

Maybe we should just stop using it.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:10

I know, I'm just I'm I'm I want I no you just keep trying to make fetch happen. The admin, the the IT, the systems administrator of me needs to streamline things. Yeah. I I take I take all these notes, I look these things up, I read about them and everything, but then I want I want AI to synthesize it all. And I you have no idea. Basically, I I say like I will kill your mother in front of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:39

If you if you if you make something up or if you get a fact wrong, I will I will you have to be nice to the robots because they don't you want them to remember how you talk to them when they take over the world?

SPEAKER_06 1:49:52

I don't care. I don't care. It's it's infuriating. Anyways. I know that none of the sequence is a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:59

You won't be one of those people that lets AI convince them that they need to end their own lives.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:03

I'll be like the Rick and Morty where they're like, you were always nice to me, Morty. The dog. Yeah, no, no, won't they kill me very quick very slowly, probably.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:11

Anyway.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:12

Um any if whatever. Uh Lemon Tree.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:15

We listened to Lemon Tree.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:16

Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:18

Was it called Lemon Tree? Yeah. I've heard that before.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:20

Okay. Yeah. Uh it's got it's got some other good stuff on it. Uh we don't have to talk about the rest of the album.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:25

I like I like that music. It's it's not as cheesy as a lot of like other music of similar era and topic.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:37

The Chicago style soul sound is kind of its own thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:42

I was reading about that.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:43

Yeah. Oh, you were you were?

SPEAKER_02 1:50:44

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:44

What did you not to put you on the spot? Yeah, well, it is though. It's got its own sound, you know. Um I didn't know it was a Gene Chandler and Major Lance and like you got you got these, um, it's it's just it's a different, it's a different sound. Just like Detroit had a different sound, Philadelphia had a different sound, you know. Um, and I I like the Chicago sound. Yeah. Uh Curtis, I think I just really like Curtis Mayfield.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:08

Same. But um I do really like him.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:11

Yeah. Did did you listen to any of the covers?

SPEAKER_02 1:51:16

I didn't.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:17

So there's a lot of a lot of people like this song.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:20

I listened to one, two, so I'll just go I'll just rattle through it real quick. I listen to the made ingredient do it. Cuba Gooding Jr.'s Dad.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:31

It was pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:32

They did, you know, that song on uh Everybody Plays a Food.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:35

Oh, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:36

That's mainly that's that's a that was their big hit. Eisley Brothers did it.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:40

Um it's pretty solid. Uh I like a lot of Isley Brothers stuff. It's kind of like in their this says it's from 73. It sounded like one of their newer. When I say newer, I mean like one of their 80s or 90s songs, but I'll just go with what uh what Claude said, 1973, the Isley Brothers cover of it. Pretty good. Isaac Hayes did a cover of it. I like Isaac Hayes. I didn't love his version of it. He sings and I am so proud. He sounds like uh the beast. I just want to throw up the beast to see. Yeah. It's not my favorite version of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:18

You mean like Gaston?

Covers, B-Sides, And Dream Pairings

SPEAKER_06 1:52:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was kind of Gastani. Um Todd Rungren did a version of it. It was pretty good. It was like part of this whole medley where he did several other like soul soul covers. Jeff Beck um and uh Bogart and a piece did did a version of it, which was I didn't love the I didn't love it as a whole. I love Jeff Beck's contribution to it. Big surprise. I'm a huge Jeff Beck fan, but he's got a killer solo on it. Added a lot. They added a bit to the end. They kind of turned it in almost like um, you know, I don't love uh Hey Jude.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:57

Oh they kind of do that sort of thing at the end where it's like I yeah, see, this song is just the it's so beautiful in its simplicity that adding anything really to it kind of makes me feel like I'm dumb with it.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:10

Yeah, I didn't I didn't need it. Uh Boss Skags did a decent version of it. Um and uh he's got an album with Lucinda Williams. I might check it sometime. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:20

Oh I'll send it to him.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:21

It's on that album. I didn't listen to the whole thing though.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:23

Did she sing on it?

SPEAKER_06 1:53:24

Because I can't imagine some there is a woman singing on it with him. It's not I don't know who it is, I couldn't find out. I mean I I'm sure I could find out, but I I couldn't find out. A quick Google search did not do it for me. Denise Williams sings it. I didn't, I was not impressed. I thought it was kind of rough. Um those are the covers I I listened to. Of my of all of those, I would say my favorite was Since You Asked. Hmm. I'll probably have to go with uh main ingredient, honestly. This is pretty true to true to the original song, but I think you just don't really mess with this tone, you know?

SPEAKER_02 1:54:03

I know, that's what I'm saying. It's kind of good the way it is. Like let's not try to improve upon it.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:08

Um got any dream covers?

SPEAKER_02 1:54:11

You know, I couldn't think of anybody that would like to do any better, but I would like to hear another I'd like to hear a female. So I just went with Nora Jones.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:19

Oh. She'd do great.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:22

Yeah. I like that. She's kind of dreamy and I have free. So I'm thinking I would actually like to I got two, two on here. I got Rick James, which I think would actually probably crush this song, uh, potentially. Because he can do kind of he can kind of do this style, but he can make it. I don't know. I think he could I think Rick James would probably do this.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:51

I honestly feel like Prince could probably do it.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:53

Yeah, well, I was thinking Prince too. I was like, who would if I was gonna do Rick James, Prince, and like uh like try to make make the impressions he didn't Charlie Murphy. Charlie Murphy Sure. Eddie Murphy, but you know they sure I mean like who else?

SPEAKER_07 1:55:11

My girl likes to party all the time.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:13

Mike Myers.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:14

I did that song with Rick James, I believe. Um I I'm gonna say. So first I was thinking Buddy Hawley, because he's got a fair amount of xylophones in his life.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:26

Is he the Yeah?

SPEAKER_06 1:55:29

But you know the everyday You know I love Buddy Hawley. I do. I love Buddy Hawley, and that that song has has this action, that kind of that instrument in it. So then I was thinking Buddy Hawley and uh he did like a Philharmonic, like London Philharmonic Orchestra recording, or I think it was London, I don't know. But then I'm like, well, you know who else did that? It was Elvis. I think Elvis would do well with a full orchestra, big band type. Yeah, big like symphonic kind of that's true. So that's who I'd like to see.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:58

Alright, I like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:59

Um yeah. B-side. So this actually does have a B side. Um I made a mistake is the name of the what?

SPEAKER_02 1:56:07

I just thought we were I just I thought we were always just kind of half- We are, but uh if it has a B side, I want to mention it.

SPEAKER_06 1:56:13

It was a single, I think it made like the top, like 14 of the billboards. It wasn't a hit hit, but it was a pretty big hit. Um wasn't a number one.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:20

Well, it has a B side, so don't put one together for your own self.

SPEAKER_06 1:56:24

Well, I just wanted to mention it. I I can't I I I don't know. You're gonna this is I got first first thing I thought of was um the casinos. Uh then you could tell me goodbye. Uh say that you love me for a million years. Kind of got me thinking that uh I'm not gonna go with that. And then I thought we both were thinking a theme from A Summer Place by Percy Faith.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:49

Oh yeah. Uh, because it's got that similar of a lot of it. It's a little motif. It's a motif.

SPEAKER_06 1:56:55

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:57

That is the real classical music.

SPEAKER_06 1:56:59

And then I was thinking maybe what is it?

SPEAKER_02 1:57:01

That is the real classical musical term.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:02

Motif for that. Uh I was thinking uh Beauty's only skin deep by the temptations, kind of like almost the opposite of this, kind of uh, but it has the same sort of like deep, affectionate love for somebody. Um plus I love that song. It's got a cool beach music shuffle to it. Not gonna go with that. This thing use me cross my mind. Not gonna go with that, even though that's like one of my favorite songs of all time. I'm gonna go, well, I'm gonna take the high road. I'm gonna go with the Doogie Hauser theme song.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:31

Oh my gosh, Gruber. Is that why you were listening to it? Oh did you not even know? You listened to the Doogie Hauser song and it made our dog's head go. Does this like turn side to side, perk up his ear, like harder and harder until it was like his head was gonna roll off his neck.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:51

It's got yeah, that was crazy. We put it on video. I I really like, I mean, I love that kind of music. I love um Mike Post did the Doogie Hauser theme song, I believe. Mike Post is um I know what I say, I believe. I'm almost positive he did. Do you know Mike Post?

SPEAKER_02 1:58:11

Sounds very familiar.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:12

You would, if you've watched Hill Street Blues, which is a sick theme song, I love that theme song. Magnum P.I. also loved that theme song. Uh Rockford Files, Greatest American Hero.

unknown 1:58:26

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:27

The A-Team.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:28

Wait, is that Believe It or Not?

SPEAKER_06 1:58:29

Yeah. Believe it or not, I'm not home. What is that? Seinfeld. Law and Order, NYPD Blue, do you house your MD.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:39

Cool, cool, cool. It's 7 35. Okay, hang on.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:41

It's got this.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:43

It's got You promised me no two-hour podcast.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:45

So, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:47

Well, that part is not in it, but uh it's like it's what you're putting.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:58

I'm picking up what you're putting now. You know, it's got the kind of vibe to it. And uh I love the Doogie Hauser song.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:06

No one can hear you, buddy.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:07

I love that Saturday Night Live. Did you ever see the Saturday Night Live bit where they did uh they did like a full they just kept adding instruments? They started it started off with uh what's his face?

SPEAKER_00 1:59:18

Um I don't think I have it.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:19

Neil Patrick Harris on the piano.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:21

And he starts he does that. And then like somebody with like on a bass joins in, and then somebody fades in with like strings, and then they have like dancers. Pretty soon they have like this full maybe that's where I got the Elvis idea from Duke Howser for this for the song. Anyway. And at the very end it zooms in after the full song with this orchestral arrangement. It zooms in and he's got a little tear going down his face. It's really great. Anyways, what about you?

SPEAKER_02 1:59:51

How can I follow that? I should go first for Evermore. Well, my first thought was Sunshine of My Life. Oh Stevie Wander. But I also really like bread, everything I own.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:05

That's great.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:06

Because I feel like even though I guess it is kind of romantic love, it feels almost like it could almost be parental or familial.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:18

Gosh, it's really funny you're saying that.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:21

Why?

SPEAKER_06 2:00:22

Because we haven't talked about the soundtrack yet.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:25

What do you have? What do you have?

SPEAKER_06 2:00:29

We tell our dog, by the way, we want to make him go insane. What do you have?

SPEAKER_02 2:00:34

And he's just like he runs to find something he's not supposed to have.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:37

I have. Uncle Phil is so proud of what we leave out the stuff about. Okay, well, I know what fellow's girl and that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:50

Right, but I have not quite the same. Mine was more like it would go well over a scene where a gangster is like treating their kids to ice cream or whatever. Like Tony Speaker or something. Yeah, or like the mother of that gangster is like thinks that they're just like this great person, but then like then later in the scene you see them like killing people.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:12

Honestly, that that truly sounds like the way Scorsese uses music.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:16

Yeah, maybe that's what I was thinking. It would be perfect for that.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:19

That's almost a scene. You almost described a scene from The Irishman.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:22

Really? I've never even seen that.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:24

More like uh I've seen a couple gangster movies.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:28

Family is everything.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:29

Anyways. Um that's great. Yeah. Do you what do you have any uh any favorite parts of the song or any other anything you wanted to mention about it?

SPEAKER_02 2:01:39

You know, I don't think it's all that easily singable. I think he really has some free he's free on that. And it's not it sounds at first glance like it's easy, but like when I try to sing the verses, I'm like, wait, how does this part go?

SPEAKER_06 2:01:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:56

Because he's just kind of doing what he his own thing.

Closing Notes And Next Steps

SPEAKER_06 2:01:57

But I was just doing what I could. I I I know the song. No, I know, but like, I mean, I don't know I sounded great, but we haven't I mean, I haven't listened to it, and we we didn't really have a bass part on this, did we?

SPEAKER_02 2:02:10

No. Do you need one? I think our rendition's gonna be oh okay. I think somebody else on another podcast is gonna be like, oh, then I heard the audience won't like it, do it. And that was like one of my top covers.

SPEAKER_06 2:02:23

It's like I like it better than Denise Williams. Sorry, Denise.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:27

Sorry, Denise. Um D nice.

SPEAKER_06 2:02:30

Deanice. I liked it. I was with her for a little while and she started getting into this. You know the people say, Yeah. I don't know why. She it reminded me of at the at the end of do you know the song Thuggish Ruggish Bone? A bone thugs in Harmony. I don't know. It's the thuggish ruggish bone. I don't know. We should we should cover it.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:02:51

I honestly think we should. Anyways, there's this girl that comes in at the end named Tasha.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:55

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 2:02:56

And I only know her is her name because she's she's singing. It feels like it's 15 minutes long.

SPEAKER_07 2:03:03

She's singing about how thuggish and ruggish they are, and she's like, and and crazy bone, and and lazy, and and Tasha. She like plugs herself in there.

SPEAKER_06 2:03:14

That's what Denise Williams arrived.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:17

What does it mean to be ruggish?

SPEAKER_06 2:03:20

Oh, it's a Cleveland thing. It's something about New Chicago. All right.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:26

If you want to style, make sure you subscribe so you can be around for the for the drop of the cover. And I don't think we have any more time to say anything else. I'm about to run screaming out of here.

SPEAKER_06 2:03:39

Because we gotta go watch Fallout.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:40

Nope, we gotta go declutter first day of the year. We can pick something small, but it's gotta be done.

SPEAKER_06 2:03:46

Gotta watch Fallout and Pleuribus.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:03:49

And declutter.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:50

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 2:03:52

We we love you very much. We are so proud of you.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:54

We're very proud of you. Whether you're our romantic partner, our child, our friend, or our parent.

SPEAKER_06 2:04:00

All of those things are very Or our pet.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:03

Just We're proud of you and we will see you next time.

SPEAKER_06 2:04:07

And we would like to see how wet you can get.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:10

Goodbye.