Time Loop Plans, Paths of Glory & Little Talks Cover | Ep 20

Two hours of playful debate turn into a sharp thought experiment about living one day for decades, framed by a Kubrick gut punch, a 90s action rewatch, and a tender dive into Icelandic indie pop. We wrestle with memory, risk, kindness, and the skills that actually matter when time stops.

• why Paths of Glory still stings as an anti‑war classic
• The Rock’s big set pieces, plot choices, and 90s tone
• Warren G’s G‑Funk textures and crossover pull
• time loop rules, boundaries, and mental models
• memory techniques, crowdsource strategies, and sanity
• skill stacks worth keeping: language, music, cooking, movement
• ethics of pranks, prevention, and non‑harm interventions
• how far travel, danger, or money games can stretch in one day
• Little Talks arrangement choices, covers, and lyric weight
• B‑sides, mashups, and soundtrack placements

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Transcript

Cold Open And Banter

SPEAKER_04 0:00

There's some things we gotta talk about. Wow.

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I'm sure as as in typical fashion, you're gonna be far more prepared for the topic than you.

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What makes you say that?

SPEAKER_01 0:07

Because I've lived with you.

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Does that are you doing that putting your knees up like that?

SPEAKER_01 0:13

Duh, you're the worst. I've got a monkey in my pocket. But I'm already here.

SPEAKER_05 0:26

Two married friends in the corner of a room, surrounded by blankets and two microphones. They got in a car crash. She died in his arms. He kissed her lips. Cause she was still warm. The audience won't like it. No they won.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

Change the words. Supposed to be no not at all.

SPEAKER_04 1:02

Oh crap, no not at all. I thought I was doing so well.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

What would we do if you got right? We would um Is it okay that I'm texting my mom?

SPEAKER_05 1:14

No, it's not okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

I gotta tell her we just started recording.

SPEAKER_04 1:18

Guys, this is the uh audience won't like it. This is our mom Rob Shoecraft. This is my wife, Leslie Shoecraft. This is uh oh, this is our podcast for which we come woefully unprepared.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

Well, my mom is texting me because she said there's a wreck near the high school. She wanted to make sure it wasn't Caroline.

SPEAKER_04 1:35

Oh. Well, joking aside, let's hope it's not, and let's just hope and pray that it's nothing. No big deal. Maybe it's a wreck of uh, I don't know, some unsavory character?

SPEAKER_01 1:47

Sure, a deserve. Somebody somebody deserves to be in a car wreck.

SPEAKER_04 1:51

Maybe uh maybe they're stuck in a time loop and the consequences of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

Oh yeah, maybe, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 1:55

Maybe it was Ned Ryerson. Maybe maybe Punxatony Phil was driving.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

I think he's Puxatony.

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Puxatony.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

Oh, Pucksa Tony.

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If you've known him as long as I have.

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Tony the Tiger, cavalier.

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Tony the Tiger, which I could not find anything about Shangri-La related to Tiger Twitter.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

Why did I think that was a there's like a leaping tiger?

SPEAKER_04 2:17

Uh leaping tiger canyon or something like that that is uh we talked about the Shangri-Laws last week. Hey guys.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

Oh, welcome to Walha.

SPEAKER_04 2:23

Hey you guys welcome to what's the name of it?

SPEAKER_01 2:26

The audience won't like it. No, they sure will not.

SPEAKER_04 2:28

No, they will not. And uh this is a podcast where uh we pretend that we're standing in line to see a concert, concert that we will be performing, trying to trick you into thinking we're the Icelandic group.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Duo?

SPEAKER_04 2:44

No.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

No, their whole band?

SPEAKER_04 2:45

Five of them. Uh-huh. A trumpeter.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

Yeah, we want you to think we're of monsters and men.

SPEAKER_04 2:50

Of monsters and men. We're not. We're standing in line, we're making small talk.

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We start off stool.

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Some of them.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

I'm like one of those people who have their own chair to sit in in line.

SPEAKER_04 3:02

Oh, I've seen that. I think we uh go to a lot of uh band competitions and football games with those folks.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

Yeah, I was thinking Disney adults. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:11

Not that we're I would love to see the amount of um of motorized vehicles that have gone up over the years.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

I bet that there have been.

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Because I I I don't think they've gone down. That's my guess.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

Yeah, so anyway, about this podcast.

SPEAKER_04 3:27

No judgment at all there.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Wait in line to see a concert, you talk to some people next to you.

SPEAKER_04 3:32

Can I just say this before I forget? Yeah. One of the things I want to do on my during my time loop is I want to spend a lot of time in motorized wheelchairs. Just everywhere. I may try to.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

I don't believe that.

SPEAKER_04 3:43

I may I want to I'm I'm gonna try to hit 10,000 miles on a motorized wheelchair. 10,000 miles. Public track.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

Are you gonna track it with your smartwatch?

SPEAKER_04 3:51

I'm not gonna get a smartwatch.

unknown 3:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 3:54

We'll get there. We're gonna there's some things we gotta talk about. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

I'm sure as as in typical fashion, you're gonna be far more prepared for the topic than.

SPEAKER_04 4:01

What makes you say that?

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Because I live with you.

SPEAKER_04 4:04

Are you doing that, putting your knees up like that? Because it helps you hit your mic more.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Duh, you're the worst. I just want to be cozy. I'll tell you why. I I had I was watching, I follow the my favorite murder people on Instagram. And they had like Oh the corner people. The corner people, yeah, the corner leaves. And they had everybody's doing this thing right now where they're posting pictures from 2016. So they posted some and that.

SPEAKER_04 4:30

Is it like a like a worldwide thing?

SPEAKER_01 4:31

Yeah, it's like an internet thing. It's like a trend. It's trending. So, um, which by the way, I won I went to do it and I didn't have any pictures coming up from 2016. So I don't know why that was a dead zone for me, but anyway.

SPEAKER_04 4:46

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Um, so in in Georgia Hardstar. No. Why is that funny? Do I take pictures of money?

SPEAKER_04 4:56

But when somebody tells a cool story like that, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 5:02

I wasn't even done.

SPEAKER_04 5:04

You just indicated you were done, didn't you? It'll come up next week.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

No, I I said which by the way, I didn't have any from. And they had posted pictures of themselves from 2016 where Georgia Hardstock, the host of My Favorite Murder, one of them, was sitting on a couch podcasting, and she looked so much more comfortable than I ever am when we're sitting in these situations. So I was like, you know what, I'm getting a footstool today.

SPEAKER_04 5:28

I'll tell you what, honey.

SPEAKER_01 5:30

And that was my story. Now it's over.

SPEAKER_04 5:32

When we get 50 subscribers on YouTube.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

You'll get me a couch.

SPEAKER_04 5:36

I don't know about that. We'll upgrade our seating in some some way. Some significant way.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

Okay. I got my own, a few things.

SPEAKER_04 5:42

Significant in like the uh clinical sense.

SPEAKER_01 5:45

Oh.

Corrections Corner Run

SPEAKER_04 5:46

Yeah. Just anyways. All right. Well, we should probably start with the corrections corner.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

We should. We didn't I don't know that we really ever fully finished our feel about this podcast, which we tend to. Can you do it real quick? I'm just gonna do it as if I hadn't said anything yet. We are a podcast married news team, and we like to pretend we're in line for a concert. Each week it's a different concert. This week you're gonna be going to see Of Monsters and Men. And if you if you stick around for the whole podcast, you'll you and then you click on the next video, you'll get to see us do a cover of a little talks, little talks by Of Monsters of Men and Men. A lot of articles in there to try to article some magazines work.

SPEAKER_04 6:29

I would say so.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

And but in the meantime, we start off with a little small talk. You know, you're standing in line with a stranger, you might not know him, or you're just trying to kill time with someone you do know. And we cover a lot of ground. We have to correct some things, we have to talk about all the horrible movies you've been watching, and then we get into like a main topic, which we'll today. I'm not it's gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_04 6:52

It's a great explanation.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 6:54

Uh, am I shorter than you right now?

SPEAKER_01 6:56

Probably I'm on a high top and you're in a ADHD stool.

SPEAKER_04 7:00

I was I keep looking at the uh the camera. I try to try to improve something every week, and this week I'm improving my my angle.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Good.

SPEAKER_04 7:09

No, I've been noticing that I've been looking like most of the time. We're past Flatland. Is that a Flatland Red?

SPEAKER_01 7:15

Oh, it was not. I forgot about Flatland already. Ooh, so sorry about that.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

That was a good pitch.

SPEAKER_04 7:23

So, corrections, Corden. This is the part where I like to go through and uh sort of a placeholder for perhaps the time when people write in to correct us themselves. But for now, I'm my own corrector. Do you ever do any correcting?

SPEAKER_01 7:35

To people on the internet?

SPEAKER_04 7:36

No, to me.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

Uh no, you're usually the one correcting me.

SPEAKER_04 7:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

I correct you when we're practicing music.

SPEAKER_04 7:46

Oh, that's that's good. Yes. It's to to my uh eventual benefit.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

And I correct you when you f get the details of our schedule wrong.

SPEAKER_04 7:56

Well, that's on the uh that's on the fridge.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

Okay, let's see.

SPEAKER_04 8:01

Rob uh Rob was asking me if I was gonna talk about the fridge tonight, so I'm kind of excited that I mentioned it. Uncle Dan, Uncle Dan, Uncle Dan. Kitty Wells, Kitty Wells. Shangri Laws, we talked about that. It have nothing to do with tigers that I could find.

unknown 8:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:18

Okay, yeah, you said that. Sorry about that.

SPEAKER_04 8:19

Alright, what language do Lord of the Rings fans tend to learn?

SPEAKER_01 8:23

Elvish.

SPEAKER_04 8:24

It's Elvish, but more specifically, we're talking uh Kenya.

SPEAKER_01 8:29

What?

SPEAKER_04 8:29

Or Quenya?

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 8:31

And Sid Sindarin, I believe. The most developed. Um the soul band that played our wedding.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

Ah.

SPEAKER_04 8:39

I cannot find the name of the band, but Dean Sims is the leader.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 8:44

He's uh he's still kicking. Is he?

SPEAKER_00 8:45

Did you find him on FB?

SPEAKER_04 8:47

Playing trumpet. He's he's very very solid trumpet player and singer, as we know. As we know, as we were married to shout out to Dean from Dean Sims from Springfield, Ohio.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Ah, that's how we found it.

SPEAKER_04 8:59

The home of John Legend.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

That's right. And some of our other friends.

SPEAKER_04 9:02

And he knew John Legend. We talked to him for a while about John Legend when we first met.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

At the wedding?

SPEAKER_04 9:08

Uh before the wedding. We were talking all the details.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

Oh, I didn't talk to him.

SPEAKER_04 9:12

I'm sure people from Springfield love saying that they knew gave maybe gave John Legend a piano lesson. Back in the day. Yeah, yeah. I think I might have.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

I think my Did you give him a piano lesson?

SPEAKER_04 9:23

I think Wes's d Wes' dad did. Did yeah, he gave him a piano lesson. Gave him a piano lesson.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

Did he give him kissing lessons so he could get that hot wife he has?

SPEAKER_04 9:33

Wes' mom?

SPEAKER_01 9:34

No, Wes's dad. Did he give John Legend kissing lessons? So he could marry Chrissy Teegan.

SPEAKER_04 9:40

Oh, you know, I'm not a huge Chrissy Teagan fan.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 9:43

I don't think she's that hot. I won't tell her. I don't think she's that hot.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 9:46

I don't know. Maybe I just saw her at a bad angle one time. I looked her up one time. I was just like, eh.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

You just looked her up one time. I follow her on Instagram. I don't know. She's a pretty uh entertaining person.

SPEAKER_04 9:57

I only watch things from 19 uh 57.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Oh. Like what?

SPEAKER_04 10:01

Paths of Glory.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Is that when that that's what you were correcting?

SPEAKER_04 10:05

Yeah. Uh correcting?

SPEAKER_01 10:08

Are we out of corrections?

SPEAKER_04 10:09

No, no, gosh. Heavens no. Okay. Okay. Uh uh longest running soap operas that are still on. Bold and the beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

Still okay. So this is this is a follow-up from the previous week when you were just finding out which one was the longest running soap.

SPEAKER_04 10:21

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Which was Guiding Light, right? Uh it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_04 10:25

Oh. Yes. If you want to know, go back a week. Yeah, yeah. General Hospital, Young and the Restless, Beyond the Gates, which premiered in early 2025. It was the first daytime soap opera in 25 years.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 10:38

That's what I can.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

What about the telenovellas?

SPEAKER_04 10:41

Oh man. What do you see what I can find? They're gonna see what we can find out.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Have you ever what was that on the top? Was that on the soup that they used to show the clips? That was a show. That was a heck of a show.

SPEAKER_04 10:52

Is that show on anymore?

SPEAKER_01 10:53

I don't know. We'll find out next week.

SPEAKER_04 10:55

Find out next week. Rule 36 of the internet.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 10:58

Uh we're this is a family uh show, by the way, so no matter how F'd up it is, there's always something worse than what you just saw. Rule 34 is what I've referenced, which is actually what I meant. And that is I I screwed up the number somehow. If it exists, there is porn of it. So when you combine the two of those things, you have a very magical place. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

The internet.

SPEAKER_04 11:24

Isn't that nice? Tyler Childers, Childers? Childers. Children. Childers. Children. Tyler's children. Tyler's children.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

America.

SPEAKER_04 11:34

Children. It's so dangerous and deadly. He was born in Lawrence County, Kentucky. You were right. Yep. Father worked in the coal industry. Mother is a nurse. Cute. Okay. The something works I was looking for that's Skunk Works. From from uh like Lockheed Martin.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

Do I just look dead behind the eyes? SR71. Because I have no idea what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_04 12:00

I referred to it as a character in Magic 2.0.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 12:04

He worked for Skunkworks, that's how we found the file. Oh, gotcha. Configured reality and whatnot. Okay. A nine-sided shape, Nonagon. I think I said that. Or you know what else it's called?

SPEAKER_01 12:15

Neptuneagon.

SPEAKER_04 12:16

Think about it. Think about think about your your favorite thing to talk about. And honestly, I enjoy the hearing.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

The Enneagron?

SPEAKER_04 12:22

There's nine of them, yes. Enneagon.

SPEAKER_01 12:25

An Enneagon?

SPEAKER_04 12:26

Or some people just call it Egon.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 12:30

Those people are starting with this guy right here.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

I bet they have their own stools for the line.

SPEAKER_04 12:36

Alright. Brief history of everything. Not nothing. I said brief history of nothing, but Bill Bryson.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

You did? I didn't catch that.

SPEAKER_04 12:42

Yeah, it's just me being stupid.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Things lessly missed. Corner.

SPEAKER_04 12:45

Did Harvard? Yeah. Freaking joker. Did Harvard make the 1965 Flatland short with Dudley Moore? Yes, they sure did. Made it Harvard's Carpenter Center for Visual Arts. Cute. Save yourself uh what two and a half hours and just watch the uh Dudley Moore one to read the book. If you're interested in Flatland. Fantastic book, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

We talked about it at length last time. Also. What episode is this, Rob?

SPEAKER_04 13:11

This is episode 20. Oh my god. Consumers. Consumers or Devatzets for our Russian friends.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 13:20

I don't know any more numbers. It's the only Russian word I know. I've my a good friend of mine was a Russian personal trainer, and he always wanted 20 reps of stuff, so I got to got to know that word. All right, so uh was his name?

SPEAKER_01 13:32

Yuri.

SPEAKER_04 13:33

Yuri. Yes. I won't say his last name. To protect his identity. Heck of a guy, though. Look him up. I think he's in California.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Look him up. Good luck.

SPEAKER_04 13:40

Good luck, Yuri. There's not so too many Uri's in. It could be an Amish guy.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

I know. As we know.

SPEAKER_04 13:46

Uriah.

SPEAKER_01 13:47

Was it the same guy that laid our floor?

SPEAKER_04 13:48

How do you think Yuri would feel about us talking about him on the podcast?

SPEAKER_01 13:51

I think he would love it.

SPEAKER_04 13:52

Our good Amish buddy Yuri.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

I think he would like it.

SPEAKER_04 13:55

I think he would too. He'd be like, just Yeah, I love I love when I was like when he he did our uh vinyl flooring, our LVP. And remember, I was like, so what do you think of this man? Honest opinion. You like this pattern? He's like, no. No.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

And he wanted to know if I wanted to paint over the dining room walls while he had the trim out. Because I had that, like your mom painted that really light grid on the dining room walls. So it's like uh it's the walls are white, and then Rob's mom painted this really, really subtle grid pattern with an off-white, and it's on purpose, and I have a lot of color in our home and stuff. And so he had all the trim off, and he was like, Did you want to go ahead and fix this paint while I had the trim off? I was like, No, it's supposed to be like that.

SPEAKER_04 14:39

It's an artistic choice, Harry.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

See, if we had an Instagram account, that would be I could put a snapshot on the city.

unknown 14:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 14:50

Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Okay, we'll see what I got for next week.

SPEAKER_04 14:52

Okay. Uh I I wrote on I wrote on here to find Leslie a Hugh Jackman and Russell Crowe war movie.

SPEAKER_01 14:59

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 15:00

There's no such thing. Le Miz is the closest thing.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

I love Le Miz, but they're I don't care for the screen adaptation.

SPEAKER_04 15:08

Have you seen you haven't seen it? Yeah, I've seen it. You have seen it.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

You are you don't actually I turned it off halfway through.

SPEAKER_04 15:12

Oh wow. Yeah. It's just getting good. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:15

Hey, my friend Cassie was just saying this one of all the musicals, that's one of the ones that actually has a better second half than the first half.

SPEAKER_04 15:21

What the heck are you doing? Screwing around, turning around.

SPEAKER_01 15:23

I guess I could try it again if you'll watch it with me.

SPEAKER_04 15:24

I'll watch it with me.

SPEAKER_01 15:25

The whole thing? Sure. Oh my gosh. Let's do that for a podcast. Let's watch it and talk about it. All right.

SPEAKER_04 15:33

The miserable is coming up, folks. Cultured corner. Alright. Uh Hugh Jackman is in a war movie called, well, it's like a romance, romantic war movie with Nicole Kidman called Australia.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

I think I've seen it.

SPEAKER_04 15:45

Have you really?

SPEAKER_01 15:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:46

Wow, how was it?

SPEAKER_01 15:47

I you know me.

SPEAKER_04 15:48

Five minutes go.

SPEAKER_01 15:49

No, five minutes. I couldn't talk about anything for five minutes.

SPEAKER_04 15:53

Crow was, of course, in Master and Commander, which you quit halfway through. Oh, it seems to be some sort of trend.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Maybe he's the one. I like him though. Do I?

SPEAKER_04 16:02

He was in Land of Bad, Water Diviner. I didn't see that. Haven't seen Nuremberg either. Um, okay, let's move on from those silly little fellas. And you made a Dr. Octagon reference last week that I just didn't notice.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

You don't remember it, but.

SPEAKER_04 16:17

Oh. Well.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

Doc Ock.

SPEAKER_04 16:20

Doc Ok. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

Octagon? I thought it was like Doctor Octopus.

SPEAKER_04 16:26

Octobussy. I wasn't gonna say that.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Anyway, from Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_04 16:35

Uh yes. Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Mm-hmm. Okay, so uh that corrections corner is over. That that that um what's the word for that? Closes? It's over. Concludes. Concludes. So that concludes. Conclusions. Um we're gonna talk about we're gonna move to the uh what's the next thing we could we do? Consumption corner. Consumption corner?

SPEAKER_01 16:58

Yeah. There's no Rob Mystic corner, that's it.

SPEAKER_04 17:00

That's it. I didn't really miss much.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

I felt like there were like five things last week. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:04

Now now here's the thing. I could start a new corner. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

And it's called Where you heard it, but you didn't care enough to acknowledge it. Yeah, I don't think you should put that corner in.

SPEAKER_04 17:13

Like that's a step away from helping it. I said I heard it and I thought, I do want to acknowledge this, but I have to get this thought out, or I have to find the next one. I just can't be that kind.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

That courteous that uh I hope you guys can see how deflated and sad my face is.

SPEAKER_04 17:31

I love you though.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

Is there like could we get another camera angle where it just shows my sadness?

Kubrick’s Paths Of Glory Breakdown

SPEAKER_04 17:36

It's just like a tear cam. Um let's see here. We are going to talk, I was saying we have The Rock. We watched The Rock.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

You did watch The Rock.

SPEAKER_04 17:52

I watched Paths of Glory. It's a 1957 uh Kirk Douglas Stanley Kubrick movie.

SPEAKER_01 17:59

Ooh, Stanley Kubrick.

SPEAKER_04 18:00

We're gonna be talking about that. Now it's just a five-minute Rob's uh this is the Rob's five minutes. This is the Rob talks for five minutes about the most memorable scene, in his opinion, from a movie that Leslie will never watch.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

Are you ready?

SPEAKER_04 18:17

You want to just start with that?

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Yeah, I like to get that out of the way. If that's what you want.

SPEAKER_04 18:22

Let's do it. Okay. Yeah. I don't have a ton of notes on it.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

Okay, great. Let me know when you're ready for me to hit start.

SPEAKER_04 18:28

I'm uh ready to hit start. How's this look with my knee up like this? Is that sophisticated?

SPEAKER_01 18:32

Like I'm ready to critique a uh you should link your three-storm fitness channel to Stanley Gubrick movie if those people find you.

unknown 18:38

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:39

Well, we got a little calf flex going there.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Wow. Let's see what AI does with that.

SPEAKER_04 18:44

All my burn all my burn scars all over.

SPEAKER_01 18:46

Can we tell that story real quick? Sure.

SPEAKER_04 18:49

Yeah, the all the freaking EPA will be coming down on me. Burning carpet.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

Just a little bit of carpet.

SPEAKER_04 18:56

Well, it's just a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 18:58

Serves me right.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

It serves you right. You want me to tell Sure, yeah. Well, okay, so I was in the kitchen. It was summer.

SPEAKER_04 19:03

Speaking of war and napalm.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

Yeah. I was in the kitchen, just minding my own business, doing wife stuff. Here comes Rob running up to the house in like misery, and it looked like he'd just been shot, shrapneled all over the legs. And I didn't know why it happened. So then he said.

SPEAKER_04 19:24

I think I said I just had to stop drop and roll for the first time in my life. Yeah. Yeah, I was uh I like to I like to do a lot of stuff barefoot.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 19:35

Burning uh carpet barefoot. I'm so just I don't want to tell this story anymore.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

You have to now because now everyone wants to know.

SPEAKER_04 19:44

Anyways, I I like I kicked it up and and it f just rooster tailed on me, right?

SPEAKER_01 19:52

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:53

It like I was trying to flip kind of flip.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

No, it's a can or something. That's what that's basically what you just said.

SPEAKER_04 20:00

It's a new channel I'm working on. I I flipped it up and it just kind of like flung burning hot plastic melting plastic. Yeah, all over my legs.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Yeah. So I And you got stung. Right? Didn't you get stung because you rolled in the ground and there were bees.

SPEAKER_04 20:22

Your weapons are useless. Um anyway. Yeah, so that was cool. All right.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

I haven't started your timer yet. So proud of me.

SPEAKER_04 20:29

Yeah, wow, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

You ready?

SPEAKER_04 20:30

Yeah, you ready? Go. Alright, so I got this movie recommendation, I believe, from our friend Jared.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 20:36

And in Aldi, last time I talked to him.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Oh wow, recently? Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 20:39

He said it was his favorite Stanley Kubrick movie.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

I didn't know a person could have a favorite Stanley Kubrick movie.

SPEAKER_04 20:44

Oh, goodness gracious, can they? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

Do you have a I'm sorry, I will never happen again. No, I don't have one. Go.

SPEAKER_04 20:53

What are we gonna do about that? Alright, so it was made in 1957. It's going way back. This movie packs an extraordinary amount of movie into 88 minutes.

SPEAKER_01 21:05

Wow, that's a pretty short film.

SPEAKER_04 21:07

I had no idea what this movie was about. I knew it was gonna be a war movie. Um, what's your you have any thoughts on Kirk Douglas?

SPEAKER_01 21:14

No.

SPEAKER_04 21:15

No. I think he's kind of your guy. He's kind of a hardened looking dude.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

He looks like What would I recognize him from?

SPEAKER_04 21:20

He he looks like Daniel Craig. He's like a generational one to do it.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Rocky Who?

SPEAKER_04 21:27

The guy from the mask. Uh share movie.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Oh no. You think I would like that?

SPEAKER_04 21:34

That's a compliment.

SPEAKER_01 21:35

Do you think you share any of those qualities?

SPEAKER_04 21:37

I have all sorts of different looks. I've people have told me, people have compared me to multiple uh we'll call them Rule 34 stars.

SPEAKER_00 21:45

Ah.

SPEAKER_04 21:46

And uh Wow. Yeah, just bald bald guys. Guess it's a compliment? I guess so.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Who the hell has said that to you? Pause this and you can let me know.

SPEAKER_04 21:56

I don't I don't know. I don't go. I don't know. I positive. Just comment. Comments on my YouTube, on my Facebook. Oh, strangers, not people at work. Oh, yeah. People like principles are. Remember, I keep I keep telling Leslie, people will say if if we are ever lucky enough to get some viewers, which by the way, thank you so much if you're listening right now.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

We don't think we got any new subscribers this week.

SPEAKER_04 22:14

No, we didn't.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Dang.

SPEAKER_04 22:16

Then uh we're gonna get some hate. And that's okay. We gotta be cool with it. Okay. It's gonna be fun. So maybe they may compare us to Boris Wars.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Where's the tear cam?

SPEAKER_04 22:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Alright, resume.

SPEAKER_04 22:27

Yep. So this is if this movie was three hours, like the last war movie I watched was which was The Deer Hunter, which was, by the way, pretty freaking depressing, hard-hitting, and great. I don't think I could watch three hours of this movie. I don't think I could watch 89 minutes of this movie. Oh wow. It's an incredible movie. Uh-huh. It is I immediately loved it. You know the series of unfortunate events.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

I do, and how you hated it because they never get ahead.

SPEAKER_04 23:01

They never get ahead, and they're just surrounded by pompous fools who are only either looking out for number one, completely ignorant, completely apathetic.

SPEAKER_02 23:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:10

They're just. It is that movie. It is that for 90 minutes. And it's Kirk Douglas trying to handle his business and look out for his men. And the most heroic, just well thought out, poignant. Just he he did every possible thing right that he that he could. But it didn't matter. It did not matter. There's the chain of commun. This is an anti-war movie. Um and and it's honestly, it's probably unfortunately really close to reality. Just because I've seen a lot of these characters just working in the business world.

SPEAKER_06 23:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:45

And I you would think that with stakes would matter more in in like wartime. Or not, I mean, I obviously do matter more, but you'd think that maybe people would adjust accordingly. I think I think people just get worse.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

I do too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:59

Yeah. So um, wow. There's this one scene though, the kind of the there's there's two two scenes I thought about thought about mentioning. Number one, I just want to say this movie for 1957 is incredible. Like, just the flow of it, the shots, the dialogue, the acting. The there's the the one war scene in the movie was amazing. It was really well done. Um, but there's this okay, so all of Kirk Douglas Kirk Douglas's men get sent on a suicide mission because this guy's just a pompous jerk and he's trying to impress another pompous jerk. Okay? And they're like military commanders. They're French, by the way. And they are, yeah, uh, yeah, I suppose it is. Uh they're French, then no efforts are made to make uh any French accents. In fact, uh France banned this movie until 1975 because it just made French look so bad. Anyways, they are uh they're sent on a suicide mission. They it's it I mean, it's it's impossible. They can't they can't do what they need to do. The the the commander who put who put them in who had them do this, the general who had them do this, fires on them to try to get them to move even more, to try to get them to move out of the trenches.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Their own people?

SPEAKER_04 25:15

Yeah, it's and he's just a I I I I can't tell. There's just scene after scene after scene, or it's just cowardice and um just evil, just pure just pure evil, and and um anyways, they they finally he says okay, you guys are going on trial, you're being court-martialed for cowardice, your entire unit. Uh you have to pick three representatives who we are going to put on trial and then execute.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

I hate this.

SPEAKER_04 25:44

Yeah. So Kirk Douglas wants to be the counsel. I thought this was gonna be like that uh that episode of Star Trek where you know like he or Picard defends data. Oh, okay. Yeah, make making of a man or the something of a man. Anyways, um, measure of a man. It it was or like or or something something like my cousin Vinny or 12 Angry Men or some courtroom. I didn't know this was mainly a courtroom movie. Oh he the entire time he's just making point after point after point that any rational, reasonable person who cares about humanity would appreciate, or at least say, go on. They shut down every possible thing he says, no interest in it, completely irrelevant.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Did you watch this?

SPEAKER_04 26:25

Oh man, I was mad.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

What's wrong with Jared?

SPEAKER_04 26:27

I was mad watching this movie. Oh, it's a great movie because then he because then he starts doing things, and you start, okay, maybe he's maybe it's gonna be like a vigilante justice movie where this is all the bad stuff's happening up front, and then it's gonna be very satisfying. Because he starts doing some satisfying things. Starts having some some some c conversations that do give you a quite a bit of satisfaction, but it just keeps ending in defeat. Defeat and defeat and defeat and defeat, which is the point. And the original script was actually written with a happy ending, but um Kirk Jacobson's like, the only reason I'm doing this is because it doesn't have a happy ending. We're doing it the original way, which is kind of cool. I will say it ends with a woman who ends up being Stanley Kubrick's wife. Um, by the way, not Kubrick. I heard that at least from what I heard is it is pronounced Kubrick, but when he went to the UK, uh everybody said Kubrick, so he didn't know. I've never heard that before. I don't know. I just heard that today. He uh she's in a a all the men who who weren't executed, spoiler alert, sorry about that, um, were in a bar and there's this German woman and she's just terrified, and they all want her to sing for him. She's just like I'm like, if this is not a 1957 movie, there's no telling based on what I just saw what they would do to this poor woman, you know?

SPEAKER_06 27:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:45

Well, they let her sing, and they all just kind of stop talking. Almost similar to like that scene at Shawshank with the opera. You know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 27:57

Keep going. A lot of men are crying. I already stopped her timer like that.

SPEAKER_04 28:00

Anyways, a lot of men are crying. It's a beautiful scene, it's the power of uh music. The power of music, but just the power of just uh how even though there's just so much evil in the world it could take, just a song to change. Connection to to change, yeah. Change uh change your hearts, change your heart, at least for a minute.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

But then what happens?

SPEAKER_04 28:17

That's it. That's how it ends. It ends with a song, kind of like the way the deer hunter ends. Well, God bless America.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

How do you feel like your brain is doing after all these depressing movies?

SPEAKER_04 28:28

Uh well, I just started watching Coolie High.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 28:31

Which I don't know might be heavy. Uh, I think it's uh it's like a Chicago 1975 um pretty much an all-black cast except for the teacher. Maybe she's Michelle Pfeiffer. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

I think she these days I think she goes by Michelle Piper.

SPEAKER_04 28:45

Piper.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 28:48

My brain's okay. I'll be okay.

unknown 28:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 28:50

Not bad.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

All right. Well, did you want to say anything about the you want to watch it? No, I don't.

SPEAKER_04 28:56

Do I want to say anything about what?

SPEAKER_01 28:57

The Rock.

SPEAKER_04 28:58

Yeah, what do you yeah? Let's talk about it. I loved it. You did?

SPEAKER_01 29:01

I can't believe I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_04 29:02

Man, I can't believe you didn't either. So we watched The Rock, the uh 1999.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

Nine you said?

SPEAKER_04 29:08

Is it 99? I thought you said I did say that. Oh my gosh, it's 96.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Dang.

SPEAKER_04 29:13

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Nicholas Cage's been around a while, huh?

SPEAKER_04 29:15

Yeah, he has.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

Uh anyway, I thought it was a really fun movie. It wasn't depressing at all. I did feel really sorry for um the ba the bad guy. I didn't really feel like he was a bad guy. What was his what's his real name again? Ed Harris. Ed Harris, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love him.

SPEAKER_04 29:31

The actor or the bad guy? Ed Harris. Yeah. Ed Harris is great.

SPEAKER_01 29:34

I have we ever watched anything where we didn't love him.

SPEAKER_04 29:38

Well, we didn't like the second season of uh Westworld.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

Oh. We didn't even finish it, did we?

SPEAKER_04 29:45

No. We didn't like it.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

Sorry, Ed. It's probably not his fault.

SPEAKER_04 29:48

It's probably not his fault. Definitely not.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

He didn't write it.

SPEAKER_04 29:50

I don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

Anyway, yeah, I thought it was really great and I loved it. And now I kind of want to go to Alcatraz.

SPEAKER_04 29:56

Yeah, we're like, we're trying to f we had some uh friends in town and uh shout out to Ashley and Dennis, and we said uh, hey, let's watch a movie. Every time they're in town, we watch a movie. What did we watch last time?

SPEAKER_01 30:06

Superbad?

SPEAKER_04 30:07

Well, it was super bad. I think the time before that we watched Deadpool Wolverine, maybe?

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Yes, Deadpool versus Wolverine.

SPEAKER_04 30:13

Versus. It's not Versus, is it?

SPEAKER_01 30:16

I don't know. I'm gonna look is it? What did you think it was called? Deadpool Wolverine?

SPEAKER_04 30:21

Yeah. Is it Versus? I think it's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

I'll look. You keep talking about Dennis and Ashley.

SPEAKER_04 30:26

Okay. Uh so we uh so what movie you guys want to watch?

SPEAKER_01 30:30

It's called Deadpool and Wolverine.

SPEAKER_04 30:32

And Wolverine. That word. I knew it was a word. I knew it was a word.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

This is the articles episode.

SPEAKER_04 30:41

Oh, articles, yes. Magazines.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 30:45

Mm-hmm. So Leslie, I found out that Leslie had never seen The Rock, and I thought she was just being wrong.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

No, I'd have never seen that.

SPEAKER_04 30:53

I've never seen that. I cannot. I have a memory of watching it with you in Mill Iron. I it's probably a false memory. It's probably a mandela.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

Like my apartment complex?

SPEAKER_04 31:03

Yeah.

unknown 31:03

Gosh.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

I only remember watching PAX or something like that with you. Was it Kevin Space Kevin Spacey?

SPEAKER_04 31:09

Yes. Yeah. And I think we watch I think we watch Matchstick Men too, which is another uh Nicolas Cage movie.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

Oh, maybe that's what you're thinking of.

SPEAKER_04 31:18

Honestly, it might be.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

I don't remember that either.

SPEAKER_04 31:21

Okay. I think you fell asleep.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

Me?

SPEAKER_04 31:24

Yeah. Yeah, you know. The Rock is I I miss movies like that? Just big, tasty blockbuster action movies. Like, I mean, honestly, Die Hard with a Vengeance was pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Well, I think the James Bonds are like that.

SPEAKER_04 31:38

Yeah, they are, but they they're a little they're a little more serious.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

They are.

SPEAKER_04 31:42

This was uh this was fucking like Independence Day. I mean, aside from yeah honestly. 90s summer blockbusters.

SPEAKER_01 31:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 31:51

This was uh I mean it it's pretty it sucks that like all those Navy SEALs just got lit up like fish in a barrel.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

At the beginning. Well when it first broke onto the end.

SPEAKER_04 32:00

Get it out of the way pretty quickly.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

Really fast, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:03

It's got a it's got a token uh car chase with a Ferrari and a Hummer. Right. Yeah, it's uh what a an F-355, you know a big car guy. That is a pretty sweet car though. If if one of those showed up in the driveway, I wouldn't wouldn't mind. I'd probably drive one of those during my time loop at some point.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 32:23

Just hang on a second.

SPEAKER_01 32:26

Alright, I think that's all we need to say about that.

SPEAKER_04 32:28

Not at all all we need to say.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 32:30

You don't want to uh there's nothing you would have corrected with the with the rock? Yeah. It's not if you were in the movie, I I wanted to have a why didn't they just corner?

SPEAKER_01 32:40

Okay, go ahead and get me, remind me. Because I think I was didn't I say a few things during the movie like a way they would just come.

SPEAKER_04 32:47

Like I we talked, we we honestly we were thinking so many of the same things, like national treasure. Like, didn't we say the national treasure?

SPEAKER_01 32:54

I said that at the end.

SPEAKER_04 32:55

They should make a national treasure sequel based on what he finds. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 33:01

Um spoilers. I like Zeus' butthole that that mention. I thought that uh Gregory uh Spore Leader, the who's the that really intense looking guy that kind of looked like a snake. He's like the dude, he he kinda he was just always wanted to kill something.

SPEAKER_00 33:16

The black guy?

SPEAKER_04 33:16

No, no, that's uh that's uh Todd. Uh Tony Todd is his name. That guy's great too.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

Yeah, he was awesome.

SPEAKER_04 33:24

He was in uh The Man from Earth. Remember that movie? The guy who had lived forever.

SPEAKER_01 33:31

Oh yeah, he was one of the professors.

SPEAKER_04 33:33

I'm almost positive.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

Oh, he wasn't the man that lived forever.

SPEAKER_04 33:35

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 33:36

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 33:37

I don't know that guy's name.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

No, which one looked like? Oh, yes, I know which one. Well, I said I think. Like he was one of the last three standing bad guys.

SPEAKER_04 33:43

Yes. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. He's the one that gets a uh a green uh nerve gas in his mouth. And I love a good heart uh injection.

SPEAKER_01 33:53

That's in Casino Royale.

SPEAKER_04 33:55

It's in uh it's in Pulp Fiction too.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

Well he doesn't inject his heart, he just has to do the paddles, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_04 34:01

Oh yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

Anyway. Um Saving Your Own Life scene.

SPEAKER_04 34:06

Mm-hmm. Die Hard and Alcatraz. I I wrote down that's the uh the best Die Hard movie since Die Hard. Would you agree?

SPEAKER_01 34:14

This The Rock?

SPEAKER_04 34:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

Yeah, it's great.

SPEAKER_04 34:17

Uh let's see here. Are there Oh, I wanted to see if there are minecarts under Alcatraz.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

Yes, I wanted to ride that. I want to ride that.

SPEAKER_04 34:28

It's like Tiplo Dube style.

SPEAKER_01 34:30

Like, how could there be that much space on our there's no there, I don't believe.

SPEAKER_04 34:34

There were lots of there are lots of tunnels apparently from like because it was, you know, it was an old Civil War base, they had a lot of storage under there, but nothing nothing.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

But that seemed awfully um deep, cavernous for an ocean surrounded rock.

SPEAKER_04 34:48

They may have embellished a little bit.

unknown 34:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

I guess they could be inside the rock, but I feel like they would dig the water would be under there.

SPEAKER_04 34:57

Yeah, you think.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

Especially because they came up in the cistern.

SPEAKER_04 35:01

That's a really good point. Oh gosh, come on, Michael Bay. And who was the other director or producer?

SPEAKER_01 35:09

Jerry Bruckheimer.

SPEAKER_04 35:10

Uh yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

It was a great movie. That's why it was so good. All those good people in it. The Ned Harris looks like that now.

SPEAKER_04 35:17

Yeah, he he's uh he's aged quite well. Timeless. I haven't I haven't checked him out. He is still alive, I'm assuming, right?

SPEAKER_01 35:23

I think so. I haven't heard of his death. No one told me.

SPEAKER_04 35:25

Yeah, no one no one I got a little little app.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

I just wanted to let you know that we've been talking for 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_04 35:33

I just want to let you know that I think things could have been a lot easier for Ed Harris had he just completely done away with the whole we're gonna bomb San Francisco. I think if they just took Alcatraz and some hostages and then told the news everything that he wanted everybody to know, yeah, he wouldn't have had to blow up San Francisco. I also thought it was kind of crazy that the dude who sort of looks like the witch, the red witch from Wheel of Time, that he was that gung-ho about getting paid a million dollars.

SPEAKER_01 36:09

Well, how much was a million dollars in the 90s? In today's money.

SPEAKER_04 36:17

It's just so ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

That's something they say.

SPEAKER_04 36:19

So you know, I like to find something stupid with it.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

My favorite murder a lot. In today's money.

SPEAKER_04 36:24

In today's money. That's good. Uh, was there anything else? Oh, it's just I just wrote in the car chase. You got parking meters, a whole string of them getting ripped up.

SPEAKER_01 36:33

Money everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 36:34

You got a wheelchair crossing, like a like a wheelchair basketball team crossing. You got an old lady crossing the road.

SPEAKER_01 36:39

Got a name of the face. Face to the name.

SPEAKER_04 36:42

You got whatever uh before he goes through the flames, he's pawing at them. I wrote like Gruber. But he was trying to tell. Yeah, like our dog. By the way, why was that furnace still running all those years?

SPEAKER_01 36:52

Well, is that like would that just be part of the keep the lights on for the tours?

SPEAKER_04 36:59

Okay, cool. We can move on. Let's move on for the rock. Anything else you want to say about that funny? No, I really enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

And if I'm supposed to be taking notes on things for the future, you need to let me know.

SPEAKER_04 37:07

You remember everything. I didn't remember.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

I I only remember stuff when I've decided I'm going to. So like, you know how you're always asking me, we watch something, and I'm like, I don't remember. I literally I think I could just really live in the moment way better than you can.

SPEAKER_04 37:20

I gotta say, I was just thinking the other day that I don't know if it's just because I'm going a lot my out of my way to watch great movies, but I used to hate taking notes in like high school or college so that I have to, you know, you get those stupid worksheets and you have to answer questions while you're watching the movie.

SPEAKER_02 37:38

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:38

I hated those. Because it's like I just want to watch the movie, I'll fill this out after. Of course, I don't know why I didn't just do that. But taking I take notes now when I watch movies, I think I like them. I think I like that better. I think about it a lot. I like pause it and I think.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Well, all that just to say, if we're watching something that you want me to be able to recall, let me know. Okay. So that I can set my brain into that setting. Onto that frequency.

SPEAKER_04 38:02

Uh everything that you watch from now on.

SPEAKER_01 38:04

Nope, I'm not doing that. We have to talk about it. Well, I have a thing I can say.

SPEAKER_04 38:09

I want to hear it.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

Even though I don't have much to say about it. I've been listening to Tapestry. Carol King Howard. And she's the piano player, right? Or no?

SPEAKER_04 38:19

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 38:20

I don't either. I guess I sorry everybody.

SPEAKER_04 38:22

I assume so.

SPEAKER_01 38:23

But I the piano is just bomb. It's so good. I love it so much.

SPEAKER_04 38:28

That whole band's good.

SPEAKER_01 38:29

What's her band's name?

SPEAKER_04 38:30

I couldn't tell you, but The Carol Kings. Darn Darn Well Betum would be looking looking up some stuff together.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

Darn well bet 'em.

SPEAKER_04 38:36

Mm-hmm. Darn well. Uh yeah, it's a great, great album. I've only I think I've only listened to it once, but I've heard a few songs on there.

SPEAKER_01 38:44

Like, yeah, I think they like they were all radio songs. It's great.

SPEAKER_04 38:48

She did she she write she wrote a lot of music.

SPEAKER_01 38:51

Yeah, but there's a couple songs that she covered, like the um Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow? Was that on was that the one that was on there? Something like that.

SPEAKER_04 38:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:58

Yeah. The magic of your size. That's how I always remember that song.

SPEAKER_04 39:02

The magic of your size? It's one of the lines. That's the line.

SPEAKER_01 39:04

The magic of your size. Wow. It's S-I-G-H-S.

unknown 39:10

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

But that's all I can ever think of.

SPEAKER_04 39:14

It's not a Rule 34 thing.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

No. Somebody had to be thinking it though. Can I talk about one? Believe the magic of your side. I think that's what it is.

SPEAKER_04 39:28

I do love that song.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

Can I believe the magic of your sighs?

SPEAKER_04 39:34

You are not going to believe the magic of my sighs. Reference to that in another Stanley Kubrick movie. Full Metal Jacket. I won't quote it because it's just it'll just be too dirty for the families.

SPEAKER_01 39:48

For the families that have joined us so far for all the things we've talked about. Yeah, that's right. We also finished Pluribus.

SPEAKER_04 39:54

It's an Alabama reference.

SPEAKER_01 39:55

If you haven't watched Pluribus, please do. It's wonderful.

SPEAKER_04 39:58

I enjoyed that quite a bit.

SPEAKER_01 40:00

And then also we've we are caught up on Fallout. So if you're a Fallout. You don't even you don't have to have ever played Fallout because I never have, and I thoroughly enjoy the show.

SPEAKER_04 40:09

And do you enjoy me stopping every five seconds?

SPEAKER_01 40:13

Don't watch it with a fan because Rob's just geeking out every 30 seconds. Remember when you stopped it and you were like, okay, guys. And you like explained this completely irrelevant plot line that might have happened in a game you played once. And I'm just like, what do we need to why do we need to know that? I guess you don't. And you're like, I guess you don't.

SPEAKER_04 40:30

I guess you don't. I just thought it was cool. I think paused it in the middle of the show. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

It's great. Continue. Alright, what else?

SPEAKER_04 40:39

You want to talk about Warren G?

Music Corner: Warren G And G‑Funk

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Yeah, we can talk about Warren G. No, that's I think. Is that what you're gonna say? This would be our last thing, though, before we move into our time loops.

SPEAKER_04 40:46

Yeah, I suppose I just want to mention real quick I did listen to David Grisman Quartet.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

Oh, who's in that?

SPEAKER_04 40:52

Uh well, I know Tony Rice is in the uh on the album that I listen to. I love rice. Do you do you know Tony Rice?

SPEAKER_01 40:58

Oh, but I like to eat it.

SPEAKER_04 41:00

And I listened to it's awesome. Rice is pretty good. I listened to the cactus blossoms.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

You look literally P.O.'d that I just said that.

SPEAKER_04 41:08

Unbelievable. Cactus blossoms. Have you listened to the cactus blossoms?

SPEAKER_01 41:12

You mean the gin blossoms?

SPEAKER_04 41:14

Logan's music?

SPEAKER_01 41:17

I think he inherited the love for the gin blossoms from Uncle Dan.

SPEAKER_04 41:20

No, I listened to the blessed. No, I don't know the cactus blossoms. The cactus blossoms because I was trying to find somebody who sounded like an indie pop band mixed with an old doo-op group. I would not call these guys that, but I found them along those lines. They're like a they're like a uh they're like an indie pop meets Everly Brothers, I would say.

SPEAKER_00 41:41

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 41:42

They're cool. I like them. I listened to uh their album, which was called I don't know what it was called, but it had Mississippi, You're Dreaming, and Powder Blue on it, and they were great. It kind of reminded me of when Dan was listening to uh Dan Uncle Dan was listening to uh St. Paul and Broken Bones. He's like, it kind of sounds like uh like stacks like Otis Redding or something. He's like, I think I just want to listen to Otis Redding.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

I love Otis Redding.

SPEAKER_04 42:07

I love the Everly Brothers. I do love Otis Reading too.

SPEAKER_01 42:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 42:12

Okay, you ready? I'm ready. Regulate?

SPEAKER_01 42:14

Yeah, regulate. So I mean, what do you want me to say about it?

SPEAKER_04 42:17

What'd you think?

SPEAKER_01 42:18

I told so this is So I've already heard it before.

SPEAKER_04 42:20

Every week for the last three weeks, I've asked Leslie to listen to an album.

SPEAKER_01 42:24

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 42:25

And to uh I'll give her a few songs that that you gotta you gotta check out. And and speaking of checking out, you're welcome to check out of listening anytime you want, but as long as you tell me why you did. Did you check out?

SPEAKER_01 42:40

No.

SPEAKER_04 42:41

Did you skip?

SPEAKER_01 42:42

I told you I listened to it.

SPEAKER_04 42:43

Did you listen to 94 Ho Draft?

SPEAKER_01 42:45

I don't remember. Okay, I listened to the ones you told me to listen to specifically, and the rest of it I just let play while I was doing other stuff. Which were That's how I do it.

SPEAKER_04 42:52

Which were regulate.

SPEAKER_01 42:54

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 42:54

Which I know you I know you are familiar with that one. Do you know what uh have you seen Young Guns?

SPEAKER_00 43:01

No.

SPEAKER_04 43:02

That's what that mount-up whole thing in the beginning is.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

Like the talking part that we skipped?

SPEAKER_04 43:08

Yeah, I don't like that. So it almost sounds like it doesn't quite belong.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

Yeah, I hate it.

SPEAKER_04 43:10

No, no, not that we No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 43:13

Oh. The song. Regulator! Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:16

Mount Up. That's the one. That part that's that's from Young Guns.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 43:20

Um, Nate Dog, Warren G. Have you listened to that album before? Do you know this DJ? Did you know what else did I tell you to listen to?

SPEAKER_01 43:30

Uh I don't remember, but I didn't I I I know that I've heard that album before. But I didn't know any of them as well as I knew the first song. Um And I really liked it. I loved it all. You loved you really? There were a few that I had to change. Like I I listened to it all and gave it all a chance, but then there were some songs like ha on the second half of the album. Yeah, there's it just has like everybody just starts drifting into too much cussing. And I can't.

SPEAKER_04 43:56

It gets a little creepy.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

I don't care that much about cussing, it's just not very creepy. Creative.

SPEAKER_04 44:00

The New York Times said it was uh I'm I'm quoting because I don't want to sit here and search for it, but it's during the like a review, like a contemporary review of the album said that it was the first gangster rap album that had crossover potential. I would say it's pretty much that's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:17

Um I love this album. I love the crap out of this. Dennis and I were singing, you know, all the stuff. DUC and uh This is the Shaq. I love that tune.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

Sing that.

SPEAKER_07 44:29

This is the Shaq. This is how we have.

SPEAKER_01 44:33

Yeah, it's kind of got a lot of pretty melodic stuff.

SPEAKER_04 44:36

It's got a lot of melody. It's got a lot of that that mini moog New York Times was right, I think. Mini moog, funky worm kind of. You know what I'm talking about? Like the what is it, Palmento or Paul the Blurr. You know what I'm talking about? That like West Coast G Funk. Like it's it's uh it's like the old, they think a lot of like old, you know, it's like an Ohio players sound effect, and they in like the like Parliament and and they just throw all these great samples in. That of course uh freaking Mike McDonald is the uh regulate.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 45:16

You know, you know it's all I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_05 45:22

How you don't love me anymore.

SPEAKER_01 45:23

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 45:25

They actually have heard of remix where they have Mike McDonald singing the chorus. There's like 15 remixes of that.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

Cute. I liked the lady rapperist. Uh that was uh She Soul Rapper, something like that.

SPEAKER_04 45:41

So that's the name of the album. Sorry, the name of the song.

SPEAKER_01 45:43

Uh I thought you said that was her name.

SPEAKER_04 45:45

Super Solstice. No, Jos Skills isn't her name. You said her name was Super Solstice. I said I didn't know what her name was. I'll find out. Yeah, I said it might be Super Solstice.

SPEAKER_01 45:53

Her name's Joss Skills. I liked her. Uh here's a She was pretty good, actually.

SPEAKER_04 45:59

I like the beat that she was rapping on too.

SPEAKER_01 46:01

How come sometimes they just sing off pitch? They just have these little like hooks that are just not at all tonally centered in what there's the rest of the entire song. And it's not just this album, it's a lot of rap music that it's like everything sounds so good. I d I don't have like a c you know, a little repetitive part where it's just like, why? Why? It's off-putting.

SPEAKER_04 46:23

I I really I really have no idea. You know what I'm talking about though? 100% know what you're talking about. Like, there's they do it in the in um uh crap. I can't like this is a terrible so many ways is the name of the song. So many ways. First of all, it starts off with uh Lady Levi or Lady Levy, who I had to five scour the internet to find her name. Stupid mul multiple every AI I talked to wanted to tell me that it was Lady of Rage, who did that that Jamaican patois, like Creole kind of sound like you know what I'm talking about in the beginning of that song? Yeah. Well, she did the same thing in And in Let Me Ride, which is a Dr. Dre song on on the chronic.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 47:00

Um do you have any No? It it I wish off pitch. I wish like six of my high school buddies were sorry, you just stuck with my wife. I love you though. Just for just for that part in the film you're crying. Um it's that's the song though. That's the song they're singing off off pitch, and it's just I know exactly what you mean. There's um like the we talked about liquid swords a few weeks ago. Okay, and there's this baby's crying in the now, and but it's getting hot. And it's just like it's off. It's just not in the melody. Like that it's hip-hop is terrible with that.

SPEAKER_01 47:38

I don't understand So the first time I really like collude into it was on when Kanye West had that gold digger song.

SPEAKER_06 47:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:45

And Jamie Foxx sings that at the beginning, and then they play the but he if they would just stay in the same key that Jamie Foxx was in, but and it's also like you're not even singing Kanye West. Why can't you just put your bass line in the same key as what he's singing in?

SPEAKER_04 48:00

I don't understand that. I I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 48:02

I've always it's like very jolting when I'm gonna be able to do that. I've always wanted that.

SPEAKER_04 48:06

I feel like I have to like sometimes like apologize for the songs I'm playing sometimes. I'm sorry, I don't know why this is so off. It's just just anybody I'm like, it's just like this song would be so like Clark. You know, like the song would be so much better if this guy knew how to sing the hook. But I love this album.

SPEAKER_01 48:22

Send me more things like that. I've enjoyed that more than anything else you've sent me sometime.

SPEAKER_04 48:26

Really?

SPEAKER_01 48:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:27

Okay. Great.

SPEAKER_01 48:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:29

Well, you may we'll put some more, uh put some DJ quick on there, perhaps? I'd I'd like to do a uh West Side Connection song with you sometime.

SPEAKER_01 48:37

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 48:38

We'll bow down.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 48:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

I think we better move because we've been talking for I'll tell you how long. Oh you don't want to know? I thought I was a timekeeper. 5 22 and it's 6 08.

SPEAKER_04 48:51

That's not bad. Okay. That's not bad.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

It's about 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_04 48:56

Okay. All right. We're gonna talk about uh our main topic?

Time Loop Thought Experiment Setup

SPEAKER_01 49:00

So we're half done. So we should say 30 minutes and 15?

SPEAKER_04 49:05

About 30 minutes and 15.

SPEAKER_01 49:07

Okay. Alright.

SPEAKER_04 49:09

By the way, that's 30 minutes talking about uh time. Time loops, groundhog day rules.

SPEAKER_01 49:14

Rules.

SPEAKER_04 49:14

Mm-hmm. And 15 minutes talking about little talks. Little talks. Just little talks.

SPEAKER_01 49:18

I don't have a lot to say about that. I feel like you could probably piece together all the times I've said that. Edit a real fun, like make it so video of me. I don't know. I don't know. No. I don't have a lot to say about that.

SPEAKER_04 49:31

I'm trying to think of better ways to add like if you notice, I was gonna say, do you know what movie that was from where the the said regulators mount up, but I said I changed it to have you seen Young Guns?

SPEAKER_01 49:42

Honey.

SPEAKER_04 49:43

I've worked I worked on.

SPEAKER_01 49:44

You're trying to get me engaged.

SPEAKER_04 49:45

We're getting there. I'm sure you're gonna know so much more about Le Miz than than I than I will. At least at least about the first half of the movie, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 49:53

I know the whole story, just not the movie.

SPEAKER_04 49:56

Okay, so Leslie had the idea, which I loved.

SPEAKER_01 49:59

No, I got it off of our spreadsheet. You put it on there. I did, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

We have a spreadsheet of where we're supposed to be collecting ideas for podcast topics, and uh I have I don't think I've contributed anything, but maybe one thing. And there's like a thousand things on there, none of them that look interesting to me at all. But this one I was like, oh, I can do this.

SPEAKER_04 50:21

So this is basically what would you do if you were in a time loop for 45 years. 45. Uh I said 40, but oh, okay, forty years. It does it doesn't matter. At this point, uh 40 years where you live the same day over and over from 6 a.m. to six a.m.

SPEAKER_01 50:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 50:40

That's Groundhog Day. Uh I got you, babe.

SPEAKER_01 50:44

So you could stay up all night.

SPEAKER_04 50:46

You could stay up all night. No parents to tell you what to do.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

Eat food out of the microwave, pizza all day.

SPEAKER_04 50:54

So the rules are mountain dew. The rules are it's just like groundhog day, fine motor skills will stay with you. Uh physical adaptations will not otherwise, right? So you gotta have they they never talked about this in Groundhog Day explicitly, but you know, we had to come up with some parameters. He's doing ice sculpting and there's there are nervous system adaptations that would have had to take place and tissue and calluses and whatnot.

SPEAKER_01 51:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:20

But as far as like building muscle, yeah, not not really.

SPEAKER_04 51:23

Not nothing beyond what we're doing. Or like fine motor skills.

SPEAKER_01 51:26

Anything that you created, I'm assuming, would not be there the next day. You'd have to create from a zero again.

SPEAKER_04 51:32

Including notes. Right. Including anything you write down. Right. Nothing at all.

SPEAKER_01 51:36

Right.

SPEAKER_04 51:37

So, um So take that. You can't, if you die, you restart.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

Oh, right. You know, so I don't have anything on my list that's gonna put me in any sort of mortal danger.

SPEAKER_04 51:48

Really?

SPEAKER_01 51:49

Yes. I told you, mine's gonna be super vanilla compared to yours.

SPEAKER_04 51:52

I made like two or three lists and I've lost all of this. Two or three? I lost all of well, because I kept coming up with ideas and I just I just vomit.

SPEAKER_01 52:00

Do you want to see the length of mine?

SPEAKER_04 52:03

I it's fine. I it's fine. I I came up with uh I I only found the one list. I I'll we'll just talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 52:10

That's how that's mine.

SPEAKER_04 52:11

That's honestly, that's mine's not much different.

SPEAKER_01 52:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 52:14

So we are not together. We are in Columbus, Ohio.

SPEAKER_01 52:19

We're together, but we're not physically together.

SPEAKER_04 52:21

Same exact lives, but we're both in some sort of business trip mode up in Columbus, Ohio, which is about two hours north of us. And we have our same exact situation. This is this is us on Groundhog Day, which is February. Do you know?

SPEAKER_01 52:37

No, I have no idea. Uh is it the second? I think it is the February. February 2nd.

SPEAKER_04 52:42

Yeah, let's say February 2nd.

SPEAKER_01 52:43

I think it is.

SPEAKER_04 52:44

So it's February 2nd in Columbus, Ohio. Not exactly the greatest weather.

SPEAKER_01 52:47

No.

SPEAKER_04 52:48

But why not?

SPEAKER_01 52:49

And unpredictable too.

SPEAKER_04 52:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:50

Ohio weather. Crazy. Mm-hmm. We're about to get Snow Megeddon.

SPEAKER_04 52:54

We are.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

We'll see if this if we ever even get to publish this, if we die in a blizzard.

SPEAKER_04 52:59

It would suck to have a blizzard every day. Well, it could be cool. It could be interesting.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

We're not having that.

SPEAKER_04 53:04

Let's just pretend it's a uh it's just a kind of a drizzly late winter day.

SPEAKER_01 53:10

Oh, I was thinking more like 40.

SPEAKER_04 53:11

Kind of gray. 40?

SPEAKER_01 53:13

It's more, I think 40 is more of an average February temperature in Ohio.

SPEAKER_04 53:16

So somebody comes to us some sort of some some um crafty old man with a trusting face. Um maybe he's an angel. I don't know. And he he he gives us first of all, would you take this? Would you do this?

SPEAKER_01 53:31

Is that what happens in Groundhog Day?

SPEAKER_04 53:33

No.

unknown 53:33

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 53:34

No, he just wakes up. Okay, well, ask me the whole question. And he doesn't know.

SPEAKER_04 53:37

We know when it's going to end. We know it's gonna be 40 years. I one thing I just thought of is how the heck are we gonna know when that is? Um here here's should we just go?

SPEAKER_01 53:49

Yeah, go.

SPEAKER_04 53:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 53:50

Well, ask me that question that you were just about to ask me about whether I would take it.

SPEAKER_04 53:53

Would you would you do it?

SPEAKER_01 53:55

Would I repeat one day?

SPEAKER_04 53:56

If you had a chance to do this for 40 years, would you do it? No.

SPEAKER_01 53:59

Would you?

SPEAKER_04 54:00

I think I would. Sounds interesting. Um I might regret it. I'll be uh the first to admit that. What I think I would do on the first day is I would, even though we're we're talking as if the assumption is that we believe this and know it to be true, I think I would still have to take a few measures before I went completely off the deep end.

SPEAKER_00 54:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:27

So I think what I would do is is cash out like$2,000, something like that. Oh at least max out on a credit card. Something that's something I could check the bake bank statement with, and also do all the things I'm gonna talk about in the rest of the day. I think I would get a tattoo. Um probably of the Pork Chop Express.

SPEAKER_01 54:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 54:49

Maybe on my butt.

SPEAKER_01 54:50

Oh. Um a butt tattoo.

SPEAKER_04 54:52

Maybe sharing.

SPEAKER_01 54:54

Oh, like across both cheeks.

SPEAKER_04 54:57

Kind of like the pigs that make the pig's nose a little better and whatever I wow. Yeah. That's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_01 55:02

So we're kicking the, we're hitting for the senses right here.

SPEAKER_04 55:05

Probably just one cheek, those is the first day.

SPEAKER_01 55:07

Okay. But it won't be there. You have to endure the pain of a tattoo every day.

SPEAKER_04 55:10

Hopefully it won't be there. I gotta make sure. That's one of the reasons I'm getting a tattoo.

SPEAKER_01 55:13

Oh my gosh. See.

SPEAKER_04 55:16

What? So, and then I'm I'm probably gonna get pretty liquored up. Not like stupid drunk, but like drunk enough that I know that if 6 a.m. rolls around and I sober up, drunk drunk enough to see a see a black and white comparison, like contrast from my brain, how my brain will be. I'm gonna take an Uber driver or a rental limousine or something, um, and drive as far out as I can, probably leave around 2 a.m. or so, head east.

SPEAKER_01 55:42

And then wherever you are, you just wake up back and get out.

SPEAKER_04 55:45

Yeah, so if I if I wake up in bed sober with no tattoo, no, I know it's on. Um, how would you start it?

SPEAKER_01 55:57

Well, I would I didn't think about this level of detail. So one of the things I have on my list would be perfecting a morning routine.

SPEAKER_06 56:08

Okay, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 56:11

So I would walk through I would walk through like slowly making my own like I would well I guess I would depending on where we are, like would I have access to like an espresso machine or whatever? Because like I would want to master making perfect drinks because I love making drinks like that.

SPEAKER_04 56:31

And how would you get how would you get access?

SPEAKER_01 56:39

I would probably just check into a I would get an Airbnb that had all that stuff in it.

SPEAKER_04 56:43

Nice.

SPEAKER_01 56:44

Yeah. I would just go over there and do that.

SPEAKER_04 56:47

You know, one thing I didn't think about. What? Um I'm talking I keep talking about my the credit maxing on my credit card. Um there's some things that would set off fraud detection. And I wonder if you would get alerted and then I'd have to explain.

SPEAKER_01 57:04

Well, I was thinking like if you're taking all of our money out of the bank account, are you leaving me destitute?

SPEAKER_04 57:09

It's only for a day. You would be fine as soon as the next day.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

But what a stressful life you're putting me through.

SPEAKER_04 57:14

But you would you wouldn't even know it was gone. Unless you did.

SPEAKER_01 57:18

Well, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:19

What I'm thinking is which card. I I I really sat there.

SPEAKER_01 57:22

You should use that credit card you have, not our debit card.

SPEAKER_04 57:25

Keep the card.

SPEAKER_01 57:26

I'd have to open one.

Rules, Risks, And Memory Hacking

SPEAKER_04 57:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you could. I think you'd be able to spend it the same day.

SPEAKER_01 57:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:35

They want you to spend it.

SPEAKER_04 57:36

So you would you would prefer morning routine. That's fine.

SPEAKER_01 57:40

I mean, you're gonna be doing it for a while. Part of that would be it would include um some love, some like movement. So like I'd probably want to take a walk, go out. Like I want to get outside.

unknown 57:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 57:51

What I want to do in my regular life that I can't do every morning is wake up early and do my little morning routine, spend time outside, even if it's cold. Like today I did take a little walk in the 21 degree weather and it was freezing, but it felt good because it was sunny.

SPEAKER_04 58:05

I bet you'll get used to it. You do some wim off breathing.

SPEAKER_01 58:07

That's right. And then one of the things I really want to be able to do, and you can tell me if you think this is possible because it's it's physical. But is be able to do the splits.

SPEAKER_04 58:21

I would have to tell you.

SPEAKER_01 58:22

You don't think so?

SPEAKER_04 58:23

That's gonna be interesting because I guess we did I guess it does meet the f the physical adaptation rules. I'll let it slide.

SPEAKER_01 58:31

Well, it was a question mark because I feel like because I one of the other things is I wanted to like master some yoga positions.

SPEAKER_04 58:38

Connective tissue takes forever to change. Right. It's even more the muscle. Hear me out. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 58:44

A lot of yoga positions, a lot of times it's just about figuring out how to do it. And you have to really know your body. And definitely you're you're limited by your flexibility for sure, and your strength. But I do feel like over time, if you had that knowledge, you could skip through some of the learning periods and get right into some of those positions, and that you might be able to have like mind over matter, like you've told your body that you're doing this thing. So I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 59:12

I would be that'd be a wonderful thing to figure out whether that worked.

SPEAKER_01 59:16

Well, yeah, so that's something I would really want to try to do.

SPEAKER_04 59:19

You're literally stretching the limits of this exercise.

SPEAKER_01 59:23

No pun intended.

SPEAKER_04 59:24

Um, no, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 59:26

Uh and that would be part of my morning routine.

SPEAKER_04 59:28

Okay. I would probably get so on the second day, I would get a I mean, just a penthouse, whatever the nicest thing you could do in do in Columbus. Um, and I would nicest suite available wherever you can get. I get out this little laptop here. I go on uh or may I probably just buy a computer. I don't know. No, I wouldn't do that. No, no need for that. It's wasting time.

SPEAKER_01 59:53

I would take to uh probably honestly And we only have whatever 45 times 365 is.

SPEAKER_04 59:58

It's like 14,000 something. Uh well, 40 is all of a sudden it doesn't sound like enough.

unknown 1:00:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:04

Sorry. Oh you have to stop hitting your microphone.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:13

I would crowdsource this. Um number one for for multiple reasons. So basically I would go to like Reddit and I would say, I would start a I thought it'd be interesting to actually post this like yesterday saying, I just woke up in a time loop, I have 40 years, according to the crazy man who told me this. I've already tested it, forgotten tattoos, they go away, they go away, I get drunk, I wake up sober. Yeah, what do I what do I do? What would you guys do? So I would start building that up. Now again, I can't remember this stuff, but I think by writing it down, and by I'd start to develop this this story, it'd be a way to for me to kind of stay sane and sort of help remember stuff and what's worked and what hasn't. Also make give me a very marketable skill because eventually I would like to see if I can, you know, get 10,000 views on this thing in in the first day.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:07

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:08

I would hit up my my good friend uh Mr. Jerry Lucas. Oh yeah, who is a memory probably one of the most robot? A memory robot?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:18

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:18

Yeah, you can see him on the Johnny Carson show doing some crazy memory tricks. I would find out everything I needed I could about memory. Yeah. And how I can improve my situation. I'd probably have songs for everything like The Roulette Willie Table 3.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:33

Music therapy.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:35

Spins 34 at nine o'clock.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:38

Well, okay, yes. Can I can I have an introduction on that?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:41

Yes, please.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:42

So one other thing that I said that I would do would be over time I would figure out what everyone is doing every day at the same time.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:51

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:52

So, like what you just said.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:53

Kind of like uh the diner scene in Groundhog Day. Well, does that where he like does he like interrupt things and like catch stuff or yeah, he's like uh he just predicts when the she's gonna drop something and you know Yeah, so then I said like do fun stuff, you know. I I have something similar to that where I would learn every police officer's name and in like a station, and then I would be I would get arrested for some like not not just their name, but everything about them. I'd I'd memorize everything that was on the police scanner at that time, and I would get arrested for like a nonviolent crime, like nudity, and I'd get arrested, I'd get taken to this police station, I would know everything about these guys, I would know all the stuff that was happening on the police.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:43

I don't think they would like it.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:44

Well, I'd be very interested to see how people react to miracles from a naked thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:51

Well, see, I was mine some of mine would be like anticipating what someone's gonna need, like finding out this person's like the mother doesn't have enough money to buy the blah blah blah, and then be like You get a lot of that in Columbus. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:02

Would you be able to be cool with not potentially not being able to get her and the thousands of other people who you encounter? What they need? Yeah. Cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:16

Because I also wrote prank the bad guys.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:19

How would you do that?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:20

I don't know. Just like like figure out where crimes are like when figure out when crimes are happening, and then get where they're about to have crimes, and then do stuff that like totally like makes them look like fools and they don't get to complete the crime.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:33

So yeah, if I like I remember my my mom, like if you asked me this 20 years ago, what I would do, my my answers would be awful.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:42

Like mine, sort of? No, no, no. Oh, you mean like truly awful? Yeah, like vigilante stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:47

Vigilante stuff, probably some uh rule 34 stuff, all sorts of stuff. I don't know. I don't know what kind of stuff I would do. I will be absolutely uh experimenting with substances. Uh every at least every hallucinogen. Uh I'll get doctors get some advice.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:07

Is it not hallucinogen?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:09

No, it's not at all.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:10

Certainly not. Hallucinogen?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:12

How many hallucinogens did you take for instance with this podcast? Um I would uh, you know, as far as what what what else? What else you got?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:22

Uh I I uh have eat junk.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:26

So like I mean I pretty much have I have I have see how much weight I can gain in one day.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:33

Oh wow. No, I see you're so much better than me. Like I just want to like go to all the restaurants and eat all the desserts.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:39

Yeah, I said try every single type of food that you could possibly get in Golden.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:43

Yeah, and I I also said that I wanted to master plant-based cooking.

unknown 1:04:49

That's fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:50

That's like Mediterranean Indian North African cuisine.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:54

Like carrot like seven dollar carrots?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:56

Yes, and then that would be my um carrots three ways. Thank you very much. It wasn't called seven dollar carrots, it's called carrots three ways. They closed that by the way. The Moroccan that little Moroccan quick service place we went to. Anyway. Uh and then that would become part of my morning routine. This mastering of this cuisine.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:19

You two doing a lot of time in the in the kitchen.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:21

Yeah, I really want to cook a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:23

That's cool. So just d just sharp sharpening your skills. What are the skills you have? Do you want to learn?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:29

Um, learn to draw.

unknown 1:05:31

Hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:32

How would you now how would you go about would you teach yourself? Would you watch YouTube?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:35

Would you hire art uh probably yeah, I would definitely hire that out. But then I feel like you would retain those skills, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:44

We decided that. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:45

If you could retain what it takes to do the splits, then yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:48

And then also just like try to learn a piano song to completion, like something new every day.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:52

So you try to like I have uh learned Rhapsody and Blue.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:55

Oh wow, wow.

Skills, Routines, And Kindness Quests

SPEAKER_04 1:05:56

Learn to read music. I'd like to I don't think you can. I'd like to Grant Geisman solo and uh Feel So Good Chuck Magioni. Rest in peace. Um, and uh also like to learn Mood for a Day, which I started learned about half of one day.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:12

And I also said I would like to get my singing voice back into the shape it was in when I was literally singing all day every day, like uh choral singing.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:22

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess that would that would hold based on our rules. Okay, cool. That's great. Uh any languages?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:30

I don't have it on my list.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:32

I have I'd like to, I don't know if this is still a thing, but um only because we don't have a Home Depot around here. But you know, like the Home Depot, like the migrant workers, like I'd like to get on a crew. I'd like to go around and get on crews and just learn how to build houses and whatnot, learn Spanish.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:48

And then be have a I really I want to screw with people. Like I want to all in good fun. I want to all in good fun, like the police thing would be one example of that.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:59

You know, I see how people respond to miracles. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:02

Well, I'd also like to go in in the ju there's tons of videos about this, but like somebody goes into jujitsu school who's a black belt. So basically get really good at jujitsu and fighting in general, um, and uh just own everybody. Like it's my quote unquote first class.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:21

But then also know everything about them, or at least as much as you can learn from hitting the same jujitsu school over and over again for it'd be a lot of fun. I can't. This is dangerous for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:33

You have to say no if anyone offers you this chance.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:36

Get roof access to as many skyscrapers as I can and pee off of them. Gross. Poop with the door open in many places. I'd like to go to an open mic night. I would like to memorize.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:47

How could you poop with a door open? Mine wouldn't come out.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:51

You just leave the door open and poop.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:53

No, it's not. I could never.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:54

I saw it in practical jokers one time. I thought it was a great idea. Like, if I ever get stuck in a time loop.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:59

That's a great joke. I think it's impractical jokers.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:01

I said that.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:01

Oh, I thought you said that.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:02

That's at least what I said in my head. Um I yeah, I said pee off of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:09

Um I wrote spend as much time outside as possible.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:13

Yeah. I would. What would you do?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:17

I would want to take a lot of walks.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:20

We covered that in your morning routine.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:22

I know, but I don't know. Like sit outside and do stuff, like anything that I'm doing that's sedentary, I would like to sit outside and do it. Like one of the things is I wro I wrote write every day. I would want to write every day.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:34

I wrote that I would like to know how would you be frustrated by not having what I'd written down the day before?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:40

No, I think I would work through that and find a way to write every day that was like a meaningful thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:48

Oh, yeah. No, but knowing because like originally I was like, massive lists of notes for if you get stuck in a time loop.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:56

No. Oh, that's true. Never thought of that.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:59

Well, that's why I want to go to like like crowdsource it again. Just like and it hit like everybody I talk to So it's already on the time loop, what would you do? And just I want to go out with every single family member and and friend that I can possibly get get with and ha g give them like the best possible day. Yeah. And like live what they would do. Yeah. And then I think it would help certainly help them for their whatever that time is 12 hour period. I'd like to say I'd like to contact every single person I know and say, meet me at such and such location and just see who shows up.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:34

And then like, what do we do? Well, like let's talk about travel. Easy stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:39

Because I have on there that I would like to travel as much as possible, but there's time constraints on that. Like, how far can you get in one day and actually do anything before the day reset?

SPEAKER_06 1:09:49

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:50

Now that's what I want to do. You still get the just like say you change time zones.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:56

And you go to now, this is Eastern time.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:00

So even if I go to the Western. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:04

I do have on there hit as many cities across the world as I possibly can.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:09

I don't have cities, I have uh natur nature stuff. Nature stuff is lots and lots of equator.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:15

See how far I could walk, see how far I could swim, see how far I could drive, north, east, west, and south. I would if I die organic so one thing I thought about was that.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:26

I would if we were doing how to get PTSD, I would drown.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:29

Yeah. Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:31

I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:33

So here's the thing. First of all, let me just acknowledge that if I were actually caught in this situation, I would all of this would probably change within like 12 hours. You know, like I'd be coming up with something new and who knows how I'd actually handle all this crap. But I want to I d at first my thought was I want to die in every possible way I can.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:59

What is wrong with you?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:01

How cool would it be to know what it's like to drown?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:05

I know, that does not interest me to know that.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:08

I mean, I'm sure it's horrible, but I won't I my my concern is that my concern is that so even though I reset and even though it may not be that bad, I wouldn't just start with catch setting myself on fire or something like that. I'd start with like a You wouldn't start by setting carpet on fire and probably pee, jump, go up to a skyscraper, jump off and be peeing naked on one of the police officers whose names I know. Something like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:38

That's so something quick. We're so different. We're so different.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:41

Anyways, what I was gonna say was I wouldn't kill myself unless I organically died doing something like I have I have go to the worst neighborhoods in the in the country, or at least that I can get to, get myself in trouble and try to talk myself out of it. Uh uh to try to make a hundred people laugh in a day, try to learn a thousand names in a you probably already make a hundred people laugh in a day.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:06

You should set the bar a little higher.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:07

I'd have days where I'd go without being able to see, being able to hear. Um lots of wheelchair days. How?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:14

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:15

I just I mean, honestly, it depending on where I am and the timeline of whether or not I what I what a yeah, I'd I'd probably blind myself or at least wear a b start with a bandana, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:26

I mean, I could I have time to warm up to all these things.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:29

Okay.

unknown 1:12:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:30

I didn't want to die. I don't know what it's like to die.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:33

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:34

So yeah. Even though I would reset, I don't know what that would do to my brain. As far as like so I don't want to die. I don't want to kill myself unless I die organically, like, say, visiting one of these bad neighborhoods and get stabbed or something. And it's like, oh, okay, that sucked. It hurt a lot, but I feel like mentally I'm I'm fine. Just clears about now it's on. Now I'm going to start turning pain uh tolerance into a workout.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:02

Then what are you going to do? Stop trying to die.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:06

Um, yeah, and then I'm gonna probably go get psychiatry, just get help. I'm gonna go to get some therapy and try to work through it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:15

Well, what if you don't wake up traumatized, but you are like that hurt. I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:19

Well, I know it'll hurt, but that's part I want to come out of this thing stronger with just a crazy perspective.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:24

I want to be able- just a sidebar. Every you can't have a conversation with Rob, hypothetical or factual, where he doesn't completely exhaust every every possible conceivable direction that your brain could possibly go in, and it yours has never been where his has been. So this is all very familiar.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:50

Somebody's ass. I would start a club, a time move club, and we're just gonna just fantasize about this.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:57

So there let me I'll there was a time when our son one time he asked me, How our mom and dad, my mom and dad live about a mile and a half from the church, and we were pulling out of the church, and my son was little, he was like five or six, and he said, How long would it take to get to Grandma Judy's if you took one step per hour? And I'm like, I don't know, buddy, probably like a long time. And I'm pretty sure that he asked you the same question, and you were like, Well, how long is your step? And bleep blah blue, like just I figured out the math problem. I'm just like, I don't care about that. Like, I love your question. I'm not answering that.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:37

I mean, I don't want to spend all my time answering stuff like that, but yeah, I love I love that.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:41

Um Okay, I just added that to my list. I am going to go to the church and then take one step per hour to see how long it takes to get to my mom's. Days. It would take days.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:52

We'll figure that out in corrections court next time. I definitely want to beat Baldur's Gate 3.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:57

Oh, how would you do that?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:58

I'd go back to my desert island list, deserted island list.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:02

How do you how would you beat a game?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:04

How would I beat a game? I'd go buy a console and hook it up in the hotel room.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:09

Yeah, but you mean you would just beat it all at once.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:12

Oh crap. You know what? I actually wrote that down too. Yeah, you're right. I couldn't.

Travel, Danger, And Ethics In A Loop

SPEAKER_01 1:15:17

Well, you could if you just sat and played the entire thing until you beat it.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:20

I've seen you beat games in you couldn't beat Baldur's Game 24 hours. No one's beating this in 24 hours. Well, it would be less than 24 hours because I'd have to go get I'd I'd definitely find ways to make as much money as possible.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:32

Oh, I have that. I mine would be how much money could I make by the end of the day? Like figure out markets since like since it would be the same every day.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:38

It'd be the same, okay. Continue.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:39

Investing and like cashing out at the end of like business, close of business, and seeing what I could do. I thought that would be fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:45

It would be fun. Just a few things to keep in mind, because it depends on when you want to spend it. Well one is like first, you know, I thought sports betting. Now, on the last day, right before I bounce out of the next day, yeah. Which of course I don't know when that's gonna be.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:01

I thought you knew it was gonna be 40 years.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:02

I thought the magic man, but remember, I can't track how can I track it?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:07

You can't track it?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:09

We can you track it?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:11

How why would why would he do it?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:12

How about you get a you get you you get a you get a buzzer on the last day?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:15

Did he know that he was reliving the same day, Groundhog Day?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:18

He knew.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:19

Okay, I thought we would knew that too.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:20

He didn't know when his exit would be. I'm saying we know when our exit's gonna be, but we can't track the number of days. We don't have like that prison scratch off on the wall one day at a time kind of thing, where we can look 40, you know, 14.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:33

So unless you can trust your mind to get like a two do we get like a two-day warning or something? No, you'll get a warning.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:39

Okay. Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:41

Sports betting it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:42

It could be, well, so what every day for like that's gonna be tricky.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:48

Why?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:49

I guess you just place a big bet at the end of every night.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:52

That's a great idea, but what would be the point? Because then you couldn't do anything with it. It's a feeling of being a winner.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:57

So that when you leave the time loop, you have you have a ton of money.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:01

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:03

And you can do splits and you've mastered your morning routine.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:07

Well, honestly, with all these skills, I mean, I would certainly be able to write a pretty good book. I'd be uh probably a a master jujitsu and a linguist and a home whatnot. I I would love to I would love to get in just master uh logic and philosophical debates and just the structure of of arguments and uh points that people make and and be able to get to the point where nothing rattles me. I'd like to get in just verbal sparring matches constantly. Yeah. Um and just have literally just get to the point where I'm just calm and cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:49

Perspective sure would be a time, yeah.

unknown 1:17:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:54

Do you think you get sick of it?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:57

I don't.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:59

I think I would be desperate to know.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:06

I just think I'd be okay. Especially knowing that and I will have 40 extra years of lived experience pretty much at my peak. And then I would get to spend the rest of my life with you guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:18

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:18

I don't have I would this can't be bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:20

This is only good.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:22

I don't get bored. And when I am bored, I'm happy.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:26

I'm not saying I would get bored. I'm saying like I would be tired of not being able to move on. I know that I would be.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:33

I feel like the world uh even some place like Columbus is big enough that it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:39

I don't think it would matter to me.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:44

I I I'm not gonna say it wouldn't. I could be completely wrong. I mean there's a sign of a demo. There's all sorts that this is this is uncharted territory. You have no idea how your your mind would react to any of this. There's there's nothing to do with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:57

You'd just like be broken.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:59

Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I would try it though. If I had a chance to try it, if somebody said would you do it?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:04

Like you would do it.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:05

I would I would do it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:07

Um I think there's a lot of people who are just reliving their same days over and over again right now. And they're not trying anything new.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:13

Um, don't I have anything else on here?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:16

Yeah, let me see if I do too.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:18

That's um, I mean, write a bull named Fu Manchu. So funny. Um, but I would, yeah, I I would like to visit and talk to I would talk to every single person I know. I would make try to devote at least one day. Like for you guys, we'd be I'd be doing I'd I'd there's all sorts of stuff. I would take I'd have to I'd have to get really good at convincing you the reason why I came home in the middle of the day.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:50

Like you're supposed to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:52

Why it's okay for us to spend twenty thousand dollars today.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:55

You guys, I'd believe you.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:57

I just start talking in Spanish and and arm barring everybody and be like, oh my gosh, you must be in a time.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:03

I'd be like, you're so hot. Let's go. Where are we going?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:06

Westward, how? That's the West Side connection, sorry. Okay, so um it's topical. You're not I love you. You're not that I'm not what?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:15

I'm eastward.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:16

Yeah, I would just stretch I'd just go as far as I can in every single possible way.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:21

I would go to Disney a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:24

So think about that though.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:26

Yeah, if you just fly from straight from Columbus into Orlando, it's like two hours.

unknown 1:20:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:31

If you wake up at 6 a.m. Account for Well You wake up at 6 a.m. Okay, you fly directly in there, you get your Uber and you go right there. So you get there after they open.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:42

You gotta buy a ticket. You get pretty pretty good at that.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:45

Yeah, you could buy a ticket. That's easy. I feel like that's very doable. And then you spend the day there until you reset in the morning. Oh my gosh, I would try to stay there after it closed. Why not? I know, why not? That just came to me. Did you ever read that goosebumps?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:08

I would live homeless for a long time or houseless.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:10

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:10

I would get housed. I would get really good at making fires, and I I'd I've always wanted to learn how to tie a knot. So I'd do some of that.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:21

I just You should have taken ropes for your 4-H project like me.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:24

I'd read, you know, every book I well, not every book I could, because I can't read a full book in a you could probably get better at reading. How many knots do you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:32

I know square knot, I know half hitch. I there's one that has the word sheep in it. I think I can do that one. I know how to splice ropes together. Uh and then there's also this thing where you wrap it. I know how to do that. Can't remember what it's called either.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:46

Like a noose kind of deal.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:49

It's like how you you wrap up like a frayed edge.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:51

So you wouldn't you wouldn't do anything dangerous? You wouldn't, you wouldn't, you wouldn't want to know what it was like to you wouldn't like I guess I would screw myself up. I'd be doing some crazy stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:03

I I that just you know me. I know. I know. That's why I'm doing so great right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:09

I mean, we used to like take turns punching, like hitting each other with the face with wiffle balls.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:16

Yeah I don't want to get hurt. That's cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:20

Sounds boring. I don't like getting hurt either. But that's because I I I do have probably a heightened level of self-preservation. Oh, I'd probably get a pet. You'd get a pet? Yeah, read it. Just get a different pet every day? Yeah. That's a good idea. Yeah. Okay. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:37

I would like to dive with sharks. Can I can we make that happen in 24 hours?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:42

Yes, I do believe you can. Okay. Yeah. If you can make it down to Florida.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:45

Get down to the quays, jump on a boat.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:48

I mean, all you gotta do, you could do a lot of a lot of this is going to take time.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:52

It's like I'd have to practice it again.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:53

It'll be like by your by your twelfth time. You'll you'll you'll be you'll be swimming with hammerheads by probably yeah.

Little Talks: Covers, Lyrics, And Feel

SPEAKER_01 1:23:02

And will the animals behave the same way every time? Like if I go dive at the same time, there's always gonna be a shark swimming by.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:07

Everything behaves the same. Lottery numbers, all that stuff behaves the exact same way.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:11

Lottery numbers in the wild.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:12

Lottery numbers in the wild.

unknown 1:23:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:15

I'm just well, I I was wondering, like because I was I was thinking about how to make a bunch of money, yeah. Like, because because you do you'd want to have days where you just get stupid. Like just whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:27

Win the lottery first thing, and then spend all your life.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:30

A lot of these ideas would be coming from the internet. This is a big that's like I can't stress enough how much time I would be spending just I kind of stopped, I I I splattered all these ideas out, and then I'm like, half of these are gonna be I mean, I'm gonna have thousands and thousands of ideas from every possible person. I'm gonna be talking to experts all the time, finding out what they would do if they had updated to themselves. I just want to like, I just don't, yeah, I don't think I would get bored. I think I would go absolutely hog wild, learn a ton of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:01

I think I would go through a I I think it would be really fun for a while, then I'd probably be really depressed, and then I'd be like, Well, you're here, you gotta do it, and then I'd get back into it.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:09

Just come down and hang out with me. I'd be I'll believe you in like four seconds.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:12

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:13

Great. What about the kids? They would never get they wouldn't be getting any older.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:20

You know how many freaking uh like old Facebook videos we watch where they're younger and just longing for those days. I just I I I know I I again I know I could be wrong. I just don't think I'd care that much. Knowing that I was gonna get out of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:39

But you and you do know that you will get out of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:41

And I could spend so much time in the street. You just don't know when. Yeah. No, forty years.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:46

But yeah, I don't know, like because you physically don't think you could remember it.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:51

I will find a way. You know what I'll do? It's the stupidest we're we're stupid.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:55

What?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:57

Yeah, I hope everybody, all 18 of you, I'm so sorry. All you gotta do is remember a number. Day three. Three, three, three, three, three, three.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:07

Yeah, yeah. I I was thinking it seemed easier than you were thinking it did to remember what day you were on.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:13

Well, I don't know. I don't know. Terry Lucas would have been like, what are you doing here? Get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:17

You don't deserve my memory tricks.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:19

I'm not gonna teach you anything. He is a sweet, sweet man. He would uh he would forgive me. He'd probably take a little convincing.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:26

You think so? You wouldn't think he'd believe you right out.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:29

I would just say this is gonna sound crazy. No, I just say teach me everything you you know about memory. What what would you do if if if I'd pose a hypothetical, I have multiple choices.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:40

Say I'm gonna live the same day over and over again. I need you to help me remember what day I'm on. And he would sing you a song about squirrels.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:47

Just what's what's today? Squirrel tail. Just tomorrow's the fifth.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:51

So on a soul.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:52

And your headache slows. This is why you're the man. This is why you're the one.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:55

So the best college basketball player of all time. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:58

It's been 35 minutes on that.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:00

Let me just say, I'll end with a fun Jerry Lucas story. Okay. Um, as I was saying, I so I have the pleasure of uh I let's just say I helped him with his computer. Actually, I helped him with a with a with a with a Bible memory uh website. And um he is uh he I I was telling him, I said, you know, I my son and I were playing uh Clark and I were playing NBA 2K26 last night. Uh you were on my team. I'm like, man, you were really good in that game. I mean, like, you're just nailing threes, and he's like, Well, you know, I was pretty good in real life, too. He's all no, he's like, he's like, oh, I was pretty good. That's what he said. I'm like, I'm such an idiot. I've I am an idiot. I I've uh I think I'm over overestimating my abilities to live the same day over and over again. But I'd I'd like to try.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:53

You should always overestimate your abilities. I think I can do anything. I always am like, I'm sure I could do that. Like it's not always been true. But there's been some things I've seen other people do, and I'm like, I could do that. And then I could and then I could.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:07

I yeah, sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:08

I I I have But then there were other things that I was like, oh no.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:13

I used to have way inflated uh confidence. Yeah. Oh that'll just be oh, I know I don't need to start applying myself yet. I'm just going to invent something and make millions of dollars. Just not ready yet. I just I don't know how many times I told myself that. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:28

Anyway, that was fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:29

That was fun. Little talks.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:32

Little talks. So we talked about them last week. That's how they got put on my mind. Because I was saying that I've been listening to them.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:39

Because didn't I say that they would be the did I say they would be my B side or a cover of the back?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:48

Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:50

So then I was like, let's do that song. And I remembered that you liked it.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:55

I do like that song.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:56

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:57

Um 2011.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:58

Oh my gosh. Long time ago.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:01

This was a this is a big hit. Of Monsters and Men, an Icelandic indie folk pop band. Did you know they're from Iceland?

SPEAKER_01 1:28:07

No, but that explains a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:09

I can't say any of their names, but I thought it'd be fun to try.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:11

Okay, let's hear it.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:13

Saria Iceland.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:17

Um, I thought that was the first name. Saria.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:20

Nana Brind Brindis Hilmer's daughter.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:24

Good.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:25

Uh Ragnar. Yeah. Uh I don't know what letter that is. It's just some sort of B in a P. It's like a tongue sticking out. Uh Bapor Halson. Brynjar Leifsen. Let me try. Arnar Rosencrantz Homrason.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:44

Don't read them all. I want to try.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:45

Get the last two there. Right there.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:47

Okay. Christian Paul Christiansen. I gotta chose an easy one. And then Por Freyer Erlingsen.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:59

Another easy one.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:00

Yep. Sorry. Translate that.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:04

No. It's like uh I see it actually. Uh Profere Erlingson is actually keyboards and guitar in Icelandic.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:12

That's what it means in Icelandic. What what language is that?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:15

So it was on the uh it was on the My Head is an Animal. Did you listen to that?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:21

Yeah, because I brought it up last week.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:22

Yeah, that's right, you did. I listened to it too.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:25

Did you think what I thought where it was like really f interesting and fun, but also kind of the same?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:29

Yeah, I liked it, didn't love it. There are a few songs I did I did like on it. Um what was it?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:35

But I mean each song, like they definitely have a sound. Where that all the songs kind of sound the same.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:40

Yeah, totally. Um Yeah, there are a few good tunes on it. I I don't know why I don't hate her voice. She's got a quality, she's got that chewy kind of quality that I don't love.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:52

Hmm. I don't notice that. Um I was thinking that's her accent.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:57

It is.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:58

Oh. Yeah, but I not so much the quality of her actual singing voice.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:01

I don't know. I'm I I don't my my ear is a jerk and just there's certain there's certain But you don't hate hers? No. She's she's really uh I guess sweet.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:13

She's got a really sweet tone to her, and I guess it compliments the music well. I think that depends a lot on the song she's singing. There's no re rhyme or reason for how you feel. For how I feel.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:24

Who plays the trumpetus?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:26

Uh boy. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:28

Is it not listed?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:30

No, it's not. Well, I've On Chad.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:32

Or is this Claude?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:34

This is Claude.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:35

But is Claude's last name also Chad? I did hear it.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:39

No, how dare you. Same topic. Um did you listen to any covers of this?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:44

Uh yeah, but there were um none that I I I l only listened to one, and it was like a 13-year-old boy playing it on the streets of Dublin. And he was quite good. But the song loses a whole lot when you A, don't have a duet. B, you don't have any horns. C, you don't have a creaking ship in the background. And they're all like I I started to click on a few others, but everybody's just playing guitars. So I I didn't find one with listen to the cover bands.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:18

One of the six six different covers, and I although I didn't see that one. Um, so there was Kurt Hugo Schneider and Kevin O'Lo Solo. That was my favorite color cut cover.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:29

There was a duet?

SPEAKER_04 1:31:31

Yeah, I think there were there might have even been three guys, but there was at least two. That was awesome. It was probably the best Coca-Cola commercial I've ever seen in my life.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:39

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:39

And it was this uh Kevin O'LoSola guy was playing a cello and beatboxing. Oh, it was a it was an instrumental. And he was really good. The whole thing was an instrumental. Yes, he was really good. And this other guy was playing like Coca-Cola bottles with mallets, and they were just doing just tons of amazing sounds in non-traditional ways. Very much worth checking out.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:03

I will. He should have sent me that.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:05

I know. I well, I just saw it this uh this afternoon.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:07

Oh so there was no time.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:09

There just wasn't any time. I had to I had to show you a video. I decided to show you the video, the music video of which did wasn't that cool?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:15

Yeah, it was very cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:16

I thought it was like the hundred hundreds of beavers meets flat.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:22

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:23

Oh, yeah, the gorillas.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:25

Uh-huh. The um feel good song.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a cool video. I I enjoyed it. Um, Gareth Evans was did a finger style tutorial, but he played it first. Just the percussion that he was doing while he was playing was was really tricky. No, all instrumental.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:42

Julia Shear and Isn't it strange that your favorite covers are instrumentals?

SPEAKER_04 1:32:47

Julia Shear and John D. Now, this was an acoustic duo, just an acoustic guitar, was the only thing playing. It was sweet. They both had nice voices, they complimented each other really well. Um what were they called? Julia Shear and John D.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:04

I saw this one couple that kept coming up that looked like they were trying to be a married team. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:10

Yeah. I didn't listen to them. Early 20s, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:12

Did you listen to them?

SPEAKER_04 1:33:13

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:14

Oh, that's who it is? Yeah. Well, I thought they were called the somethings.

B‑Sides, Mashups, And Soundtracks

SPEAKER_04 1:33:17

Well, there was I also listened to um First Aid Kit.

unknown 1:33:22

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:23

That was a cool one. These guys were like the something.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:26

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:27

I don't care.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:28

Okay. First aid kit was awesome. They had even a bigger sound. They had lots of horns, they had multiple singers, they had an electric guitar that was adding a lot of lot of stuff to it. They had, and then I watched Live It Wisely, who will get my that'll be get my nobody cover award. Okay. It was just a one dude doing a punk, kind of a punk cover of this. It was he did, for what it was, it was great. Not exactly my thing, but he did a really good job. And I decided to give him the award. Live it wisely. You get the award, buddy. Congratulations. And Nate Mueller drums. That was really cool. It's just a a drum player, sick, sick, sick drumist. Who just he basically they played the you ever see those videos where they they play the music without the drums? Yeah. Yeah. It was one of those, and it was it was well done.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:13

Cute, clever.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:14

Love this song. I really do.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:16

Um, how does it make you feel?

SPEAKER_04 1:34:18

This is a heartbreaking song. It's kind of nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:23

It's very empty. This has a bit of that blue October feel to it.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:28

Um why am I blanking on blue?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:31

I'll have to look up the words, but keep talking.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:33

So this song is very sad. I thought it was even sadder. Because you know I I always say I'm not really a lyric guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:44

Well, I'm not to the point where I thought this was about a a father who I mean it's very sad when a you know significant other passes. Right. Especially a a a young man like Ragnar here.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:57

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:57

Ragni. Ragnar, I guess. Rag Raggy. Raggy. She calls him something something pet pet namey like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:02

Ragni, Ragni.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:03

But when he when she says the something that's inside my head is telling me, and then he says, Tell her that I miss our little our little I thought I never paid much attention to the words. I just assumed she was saying something about his his uh daughter, and he was saying, Tell her that I miss our little talks. I was just like, I'm not gonna be able to sing that.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:26

We're gonna cry every time. It's just like, oh, it's it's just she's just having a mental breakdown. No, it's fine. I can live with that.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:32

The song I'm thinking of by Blue October uh is Into the Ocean. I'm just a normal boy. That's like when I thought near the country.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:42

Yes, yes. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:44

That might push out my my B side. I think it's gonna be. That's my new B side.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:50

Well, that's before But we don't have to get to that yet, but I just before we do get to that, because I do want to get there.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:55

Um I wanna swim away, but don't know Yeah, I haven't heard that song forever.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:00

Did that come around at the same time?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:01

Probably, because I was working at uh the psych hospital when all this stuff came out, like like the Edward Sharp Zeros.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:07

Or the uh I always want to call it the goat the goatie. Goat yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:11

Goatier goatier. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:17

All that kind of what do you what do you call that? It's like um chamber pop indie rock or something. It's kind of like I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what it's called either, but I like it. It's a cool it's a cool sound.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:29

Um Yeah, I think so I was getting on you when we were recording it because I wanted it to be I wanted it because I chose it, so I wanted it when when you choose it on this podcast, you get to be the creative director as well. And I didn't want to have it to be creatively directed, I wanted it to be very similar as much as we could replicate with what we had to the recording because I feel like so much of that like emptiness because they only sing in unison. There's no mel or there's no harmony. And because they're apart by like an octave, it makes like all that space between feel very empty, which I feel like mirrors the words.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:07

You're not wrong.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:08

And so I didn't want you doing anything too s stylistically in the stylings of Rob Shoecraft.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:16

I which I don't even know if I have a style. I just do like to make everything It's okay. It's good. I like to make stuff kind of f have a little bit of funk. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:29

Not even not funk necessarily, but like But like this very much is pretty this is pretty straight. It doesn't have a lot of syncopated anything.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:37

No, it's it's unlike a lot of stuff I've played. Yeah. I don't I don't know if I've ever sat there. My hands were worn out. So like I was saying, I was playing bar chords the whole time because I I just felt I feel like I need I have way more control over like the percussion on the guitar. Uh when I when I can mute and and I don't know, it just feels better. But my I was cr I mean I haven't cramped playing guitar and since since trying to learn how to play bar chords, but like I just did it so many times, switching just keeping that keeping that index.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:09

We really broke our own rule of only trying two takes. We think we did like eight or nine takes.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:14

Oh man, I just tried to fit that uh save tonight.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:17

Uh oh yeah, did you want to talk about that real quick?

SPEAKER_04 1:38:19

Yeah, so I I thought this song sounded just like Eagle Eye Cherry Save tonight. And it does. It's like the same chord progression exactly. And I like that song too. I I thought I was I was looking up, I'm like, oh man, we gotta we'll do a mashup. We'll do this song with Save Tonight. I looked up to see if like anybody's talked about that before. Not only have they talked about there's like three existing covers, and they're they're better than what than what I could do. But um never say. But I do like I do like that song. I tried to play like octaves. And yeah, I thought it was great. Messed it up a little bit. I couldn't pay too much. I know the recording wasn't great. My own part.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:59

Which it's not perfect, but you know, that's not what we're here for.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:02

No, you do you do but on the you you played the pam pam pam? Yeah, on the piano and uh wasn't what I you know. We really do gotta start commissioning the kids to put flight. Well, I told Clark to come down and laid it to the case.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:14

I think you could maybe get Clark to play the sacks if you did it off camera. Well, that, but also if he could talk about basketball statistics with you sometime.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:24

We'll talk about NBA 2K26.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:26

Or real people's is what I was thinking, but oh, yeah, but that's fine too.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:29

But I do I I wanted to I wanted to play it like um I wanted to kind of I know I'm not gonna I don't know why I always do this. But I'll start playing and I'm like, I don't want to play, but how's it how's it actually go? I wanted to be like Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:51

And I was like, stop, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:54

But so the one dude, the one dude who um well, I don't know if it's a guy, it could have been a girl, it could have been a different guitar player altogether, but of that duo I was talking about, they were doing some kind of neat stuff on guitar, but it was real light, real airy, but a little bit doing some embellishments, not playing in that same it's almost like a sea chant. Kind of it's kind of like that, hey, you know, like which kind of makes sense given the lyrics.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:17

Talking about the ship will carry us. I did think it was SHI team.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:22

Really?

SPEAKER_01 1:40:23

The first couple times. I was like, get away with all sorts of stuff up more on the radio.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:27

Yeah. So you want to talk about the lyrics a little bit?

SPEAKER_01 1:40:31

No, I mean not any more than we already did.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:33

I mean they're kind of interesting. Um I guess it was this was based on no one in particular, maybe like um, I think something like their neighbor, like an old woman or an old man who just lost their significant other, and they thought, oh, let's write a song about it. I'm sure I'm butchering that, but I've read that somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:53

Did she sacrifice them to the volcano in the center of Iceland?

SPEAKER_04 1:40:56

They're like, guys, it's it's a time of she's fine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:59

She'll be back tomorrow. It's all gonna reset tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:02

Is that something uh is that something that's done pretty frequently up there?

SPEAKER_01 1:41:05

I think so, yeah. Well, I was there. I went to Reykjavik. Did you see one of those? And that's what we can see it from the plane.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:10

That would definitely be if I can make it to Reykjavik in the given 24-hour period, I would definitely fall into a volcano.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:16

Because I flew there on my way to Germany.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:18

No doubt in my mind. No doubt.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:20

No doubt in my mind.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:22

So, yeah, but it's kind of ambiguous, right? Because she's sort of like It is.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:26

You don't quite know she but I think the duet part of it's really important. That's why I couldn't really get into the covers that were just people singing it by themselves. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:36

Yeah. Yeah, this you wouldn't like this punk guy then. Sorry, uh live it wisely. I liked you. I thought you were nice. Um, so do you want to go go ahead and talk about our covers and b-sides and and soundtracks?

SPEAKER_01 1:41:51

All right there? Do you need to stand?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:56

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:58

Thanks.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:59

Do you need a footstool?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:00

Yeah. But uh next time around.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:03

Okay. Alright.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:05

So sorry, real quick. One of the band members left at some point early in the touring because he was tired of playing the same song five days and every five times a day.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:16

It's like me. Wow. You'd have to really hate it to give up the what you're doing.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:22

I'm sure again, just everything I say, just double check. I I'm I'm getting the spirit of the truth.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:28

That's all that matters.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:29

But it may vary.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:30

Will it carry us?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:32

Carry us if to short. If you could hear Leslie Shoecraft, if you could hear anybody cover this song, who would it be?

SPEAKER_01 1:42:40

So I know, I feel like I'm just such a one-note person, so I'm sorry about that, Tyler.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:45

You've accused me of the same thing. Oh, you're really sticking to the same genre, huh?

SPEAKER_01 1:42:48

Okay, well, then I would like to hear Carol King and James Taylor do it.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:53

Sure it'd be awesome. I would I would listen to that any day of the week.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:58

Because imagine what sh the piano could be.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:01

Just imagine.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:03

It could fill in for the trumps. Well, it could fill in for the trumps.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:08

So you would just have Taylor on the guitar and Carol King on the piano?

SPEAKER_01 1:43:12

Sure. We'd need a drummer though. Karen Carpenter could play the drum.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:17

Yeah, nice. She could also sing harmony.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:20

There's no harmony.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:21

Oh, right. Just so you're sticking to the octaves. Yeah. So they're gonna play it the same style, try to more or less.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:26

You're gonna do what we did with elevated ability.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:30

What do you I need that much elevated?

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SPEAKER_01 1:43:33

But I love both of their voices. You know, James Taylor's one of my faves. So and I'm like in a Carol King rut right now, so Awesome. I thought it w I thought it was good. Alright, who do you would want to hear?

SPEAKER_04 1:43:45

Uh well, first I wrote down the platters. Oh. Zola Taylor, because they have a female singer. Singer. Um, and uh Tony Williams is usually the Would you let him change the style? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:59

Uh there'd be a lot of strings.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:00

Ooh, that would be pretty. I'd like for it to be Imagine the strings on the quiet parts where there's nothing going on, just like a long time.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:07

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be really pretty. Um Twilight Time, as you know, is like one of my favorite songs of of all time. Uh I'd like to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:16

It's a very free song. You think it's not, but it is when you try to play it.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:19

It's a trick. I don't know how I'm gonna be so mad at myself when I when I say this is the song we're doing, because that it's gonna be a tough one, but I'd I'd like to do it. Be uh be cool. I love the platters. That being said, I did change it.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:33

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:34

I changed it to Elizabeth Cotton and John Denver.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:39

I don't know Elizabeth. Oh, the Freight Train Lady? Oh, wow. Yeah Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:44

Because that song uh was that so that song was gonna be my B side.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:49

But then I I remembered Don's Funeral. Yeah. My sweet lady. Yeah, John Denver tune, which is so then you thought MashUp City. Well then I thought, like, because Freight Train is kind of like it's kind of a creepy, sort of bittersweet. I love I love that song.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:06

And she, so I thought, first I thought uh uh Peter from Peter Paul and Mary and Elizabeth Cotton because he talked about like how much she and that song inspired them. And uh I'm like, I want to hear John Denver singing with her because you know I I don't know, I thought about thought about Don, Don's funeral, and they're playing that song. And I thought it could be a pretty sick mashup. Both those folks can play guitar pretty well. I'd just like to hear them. She can finger pick like a son of a gun. Wow. Or she could, I'm sure she's been dead for a while now. Alright. Uh B-side.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:38

Okay, well, I I did change it. I did I am officially changing it to Into the Ocean by Blue October.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:44

But I thought that song by fun. Some nights I say uh cashing in the bad uh. That one. That was my original B-side. I could go either way, though. I like both of those songs.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:56

Okay. I thought uh well one I thought Song for Sienna from Brian Crane.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:04

Which we talked about later. Sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:06

Well, it's got the same to it's got a very similar chord progression to the point where I actually was going to try to play it. That was gonna play that. But I think is that song in 6'8? It's kind of just a different it's just has a different thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:19

This one's not. No.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:19

Little toxic. Right, right, right. Whatever it was, it'd have to be like a forced rhythm and it wouldn't really you'd almost have to build it. There's not enough time to really make it work. So I think I'll do save tonight.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:29

All right.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:30

I mean It's pretty good. And it's got a lot of simil uh similar themes. It's not, I think that's more of a I don't know. I actually don't know if I'm gonna say anything else, but it's got the same sort of feel.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:41

Well, that's the reason I like the breaker. Because the melody of Little Talks, it there's like five notes at most. Da da da da da da da. That's three notes. Da da da da da da da. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I don't think there's anything more than five notes. And then that some nights feels very chanty like that too.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:01

That just speaking of like when to play what and the different that that part. So let's say he had the idea for me to keep this beat and go like this dude, uh, this Gareth Evans guy was doing that while also playing while also like hammer on and pulling. Playing the melody with the bass. He's like Travis picking while playing the melody.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:30

What's Travis picking?

SPEAKER_04 1:47:31

Travis picking is like it's when you keep alternating between uh two bass notes. Oh. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. While you're doing something with it. Like Chad Atkins is like the king of it. Well, Merle Travis is probably the king of it. But Chad Atkins like took it and ran with it. Anyways, I suck at it. Um I could explain what it is. I can't demo it.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:54

That's how I feel about a lot of things in the music world.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:57

Yeah, you and me both.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:58

That's fine. Um what about soundtrack?

SPEAKER_04 1:48:02

Soundtrack.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:03

You go first this time.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:05

Okay. Um Titanic.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:12

Kind of, I mean, I don't know if I want to spoil Titanic for people, but uh the movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:17

The movie. Yeah. The movie version.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:19

Yeah, I won't tell you what really happened. I don't want to do that too.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:22

Can you imagine though that's what they were playing when it was going down?

SPEAKER_04 1:48:25

Well, I was thinking that. So I know I'm ignorant, but they sound Irish.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:32

I was like, it'd be cool. It's very little technical. If this took place in uh in the 21st century, maybe they'd be they'd be dancing to uh something that sounds like this. Yes. And then with uh with Rose and uh Leo Leonardo's dead.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:47

Leo Nack is I have no idea. Jack.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:51

Jack. I do have an idea. There you go. This song is, I mean, it's like dead on.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:55

Yeah, of course it is. And they'd be drawing each other and like French girls.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:00

Maybe you could you could draw them. If you were to Time Loop on the Titanic. Ooh, that'd be interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:05

I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:08

Part two.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:10

Don't make me.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:12

We gotta talk about Loki sometime.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:14

We should. I don't want to do Time Loop on the Titanic. Don't make me.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:19

Okay, I won't make it.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:21

Don't make me. Tear cam. Tear cam.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:23

What's your what's your what's your soundtrack?

SPEAKER_01 1:49:28

The Tom Hardy show, Taboo.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:30

Oh, I love that show. What why? Explain it.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:35

Uh I feel like that show was just like s kind of dark. Kind of empty.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:41

There's a lot of like dead talking too.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:43

Yeah. And like he goes, he's kind of weird. And like they're to, you know, they're talking, but maybe she's not talking to anybody. Maybe the the guy is just her own voice. You know, and so I feel like it kind of fits the theme of him having like a shipping company. That's really good. And it's dark and it's a little crazy. It's it could be a little unsettling. That's what I went for.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:09

Good choice.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:10

I liked it.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:12

Anything else you want to say about this tune or time loops or or pass of glory?

SPEAKER_01 1:50:19

Do you think you've do you think you've grown as a person yet since we started this podcast?

SPEAKER_04 1:50:24

Yeah, in a way. I've definitely grown as a uh I know about three-point lighting.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:32

I know how to record something without putting it in slow motion. Do you think you're going to be able to do that? I know how to record something while putting it in slow motion. I'm a better listener. I'm a little bit better at deciding what I want to say and cutting things out, at letting go of things.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:47

A little bit better trusting that the time will be there, and if it's not, then that's okay. Yeah. So I'll just have to be shorter. Um short hair. I've enjoyed spending time with my lovely wife. We've got a two-hour date every week.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:01

It amounts to be a lot more than that.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:03

It does.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:04

Which is keep it coming, baby. Let's keep it coming. It's like we're stuck in a marriage time loop. No, I've learned. We're in the only married time loop.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:11

I've learned a lot from this. I'm learning a ton about actually playing music. I'm learning a ton about appreciating music by playing it. Um there's a million things.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:23

I mean, it's like it's like being a sports fan versus the athlete.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:27

Great analogy. I'm an analogy guy. You know that about me.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:30

I'll try to come up with a car analogy for you since you're such a car guy. Like a construction building one video.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:38

Oh baby, that's a night. It's a 96 F3335.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:42

A what? Only made it. Is that a truck?

SPEAKER_04 1:51:46

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:49

We love stuff. All right, well, that sounds good.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:52

It's a chopper, baby.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:53

It's a chopper. Are we outy?

SPEAKER_04 1:51:56

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SPEAKER_01 1:52:15

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:16

I'm going to uh make an email. Should make a Gmail.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:20

Well, I'll make the Instagram account.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:22

I'll make the Gmail account and you make the Instagram account and sign up with Rebo.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:26

Yeah, yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:27

Yeah. Okay. Let's do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:29

I think. We'll figure that out off the show.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:31

You'll have a way to keep it in the meantime, just feel free to comment.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:34

Please do.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:35

Um or uh wherever you can comment.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:38

Wherever you get your comments.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:40

Alright, you guys have a wonderful uh rest of your um forty days in Columbus.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:49

Uh 40 years. Years. It's fine though. Okay, bye.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:52

Yeah, I don't want to do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:53

Okay, bye.