The Audience Won't Like It

3 Taxi's Reverend Jim Eps, Cooley High & Rancid's "Old Friend" | Ep 21

Rob and Leslie Shoecraft

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We own up to a Groundhog Day blind spot, tighten some dangling facts, and then sink into why Taxi’s Jim episodes still crackle. A Rancid “Old Friend” cover closes the loop as we talk chords, bass lines, and making music under pressure.

• what Corrections Corner is for and why details matter
• how telenovelas, The Soup, and misheard names reveal media memory
• why Taxi works: ensemble chemistry, Bob James’s theme, physical comedy
• Elegant Iggy’s class jokes and gentle dignity
• Jim The Psychic’s panic farce and prophecy setup
• Reverend Jim’s DMV test and the long yellow‑light gag
• Cooley High as a “hard PG” time capsule
• Rancid context, Matt Freeman’s bass, and song structure
• choosing covers, B‑sides, and soundtrack pairings
• the creative grind of recording and what we learned

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Cold Open, Confession, And Banter;

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Okay, go ahead. What's your confession? Because I'm not done with corrections, but continue.

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You know, I I don't want you to leave me when I tell you this.

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What the heck?

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I've never seen Groundhog Day.

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Are you kidding? No wonder you are so dumb about the rules. I was like, have you I almost said, have you ever never seen this sh movie?

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330 deadline.

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You and your deadlines.

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Well, where would we be without them? Because we even with my 90-minute deadline, we still have a two-hour podcast, so. That doesn't even include all the time we spent recording the song.

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We'd have a nice four four-hour podcast. What what the people want?

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I don't think there's many people.

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I think the only reason we have 19 subscribers is because we only we don't go for four hours.

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You think we'd have more if we went for four hours?

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Excuse me, ma'am. I have a song to see.

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Oh, I'm so sorry. Let's hear it. Do you write me something new?

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This is my story. That's not the song.

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No, that's a hymn.

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No, it's not. It's the Gi 5.

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Oh.

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It's sad but true. About two young lovers. Do you know that song?

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No, is this? Did you rip that off? Cry, cry, cry.

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No, it's just the uh 50s chord progression. Let me sing our song.

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Okay.

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This is all tangled up here.

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I can't imagine why.

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Tangled up in blue.

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It's a representation of your insides.

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Ready? And uh. Two married friends. That's how it starts. That's us. Ah, that's it. Guys, that's it. That's us. Two married friends in a corner of a room.

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The basement. Uh guys, you're not gonna like this one today. I was so excited. Can you try again?

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Freaking ranted. Two married friends in the corner of a room.

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A basement.

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Surrounded by blankies. And two microphones.

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It's about minus thirty degrees in here.

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They got in a car crash.

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It was icy.

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She died in his arms. He kissed her lips. Cause she was still warm. The audience will like it. No they won't. Are we on Hoth right now? Hoth?

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Yeah.

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Star Wars?

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Is that the Ice Planet? Yeah. Are you gonna cut open a Don Don? Me, because I'm so warm.

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I'm gonna cut you open.

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And get inside.

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I I don't think that uh Do you think you could fit inside of me? I read some more recently. I read some more recently that that's not a good idea. Nah. It's not a good idea to cut your animal open and sleep in them.

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Um It's safe, Luke Skywalker.

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Can I do this without making terrible noises? Do we need WD property?

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Don't make any references to any people in our family. Oh my goodness.

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It's okay to do this. It's just fine, just fine with you.

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Clap clap.

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It's okay if I screw up my themes on for the 21st time in a row. Is this episode 21? Episode 21.

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21esie. That's what a baby wears. A 21esie.

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That's what somebody wears on their 21st birthday when they want to go out and get smashed.

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No, remember the story? Remember when I went out for my my friend Betsy's.

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Oh, the romper?

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Yeah, and she was, and they asked her if she if they could do a shot off of her stomach, and she said, no, thanks. I'm wearing a romper.

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I'm wearing a onesie.

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Shout out to you, Betsy.

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Is there a difference between a romper and a onesie?

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I mean, I I wouldn't call a lady's clothing a onesie.

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No, I know, but. It's like a baby romper. Functionally speaking, is there any difference? Other than the little snaps on the bottom. Or do rompers have snaps?

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Rompers don't typically have snaps. They're just all one piece.

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Huh. So aren't onesies though, too?

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Yeah, but they have snaps.

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Okay, so snaps, snaps and then the demographic, targeted demographic are the only things that's the same.

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That's the only in a size, the sizing.

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The sizing.

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I don't think I could fit into a onesie. Maybe a 21esie.

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Smaller individuals who could wear a 21esie? A 21esie.

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Right, 18Z.

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I bet we got a niche uh market we could go up to.

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Uh-oh. I think we could make a few extra dolls. Doll hairs?

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Let's set up straight.

Announcements Corner (Leslie hasn't seen Groundhog Day)

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I I won't be. I'll try though. So welcome to our podcast. It's called The Audience Won't Like It. And it features me, Leslie Shoecraft, the wife of you, Robley Shoecraft.

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That's my name.

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The husband.

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Robly.

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You guys, I wanted to make a few announcements corner.

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I haven't eaten in 72 hours.

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Oh, okay. Oh, before we hit our regular corners, I had a few other corners I'd like to add.

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Oh, before we even hit corrections corner.

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Yeah, I have a few corners. They don't need to happen every time, but I have a two announcement corners.

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Oh, this is new.

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It is.

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I'm excited.

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Well, actually, three in the announcement corner. Number one is I did create an Instagram. However, it features zero posts. So just stay tuned for that. Uh number two, I just wanted everyone to know this is my debut of wearing real pants on this podcast. I have jeans on.

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Those are really nice. What is it called? Jeans you say.

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They're called jeans. And normally normally we film this after I've been at work all day and I just want to take off all of my real clothes and put on my fake soft clothes.

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Family show.

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Soft clothes?

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Do they have snaps?

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No, heck no. And then today though, we haven't left the house in days because of the Hoff storm. Because of the pretend snowstorm where everyone else got a hundred inches of snow and we got nothing but solid ice.

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Yeah, like three inches of ice.

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Bummer. Anyway. So because of that, I felt the need to. I blew my hair out. I blowed it out.

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Blowed it out.

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And then I put on pants for you.

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Thank you for doing that for me. Those it's cra it's kind of cool what makes the announcements.

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And I have one more announcement. What is it? Today's my mom's 75th birthday.

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Oh my gosh, that's really big news.

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And but I wanted you to know. I wanted to know.

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She doesn't even listen to our podcast. Screw her.

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I wanted you to know. She doesn't. She'll never hear that.

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Robert! Just kidding. As long as you listen to the podcast, I'm just kidding around.

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But I wanted you to know that my mom and dad got engaged today. Fifty-three years ago.

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Wow.

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But guess how many weeks after their engagement they got married?

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Oh gosh, there's a story behind it, I know. Has something to do with alcohol, if I'm not mistaken.

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Yes, but not in the way you got it.

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Like a week?

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Five weeks. Five weeks.

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Nice.

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And guess how long they had been dating before they got engaged? Three months. Can you even imagine that today? In today's money. It'd be like a day. So anyway, that was my first corner.

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Well, there's another announcement. Oh, what is it? It's our uh we have an email address.

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It is.

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It's called AudienceWon't Like It at Gmail.com.

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I was wondering why you didn't call it the Audience Won't Like It.

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Because I Because I wasn't thinking.

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So it's not the audience won't like it at gmail.com as you might think. And that but the Instagram channel is called The Audience Won't Like It. Uh but it's I can always change.

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I wish I could share our password. Okay. That's a bad idea.

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It has a lot of bathroom words on it.

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Yeah, it's pretty good.

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Um and anyway, but it's audience won't like it at gmail.com. If you want to send us a mail. A care package. An internet digital care package.

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That's a neat. So is that what email is short for?

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Yeah, internet digital care package.

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Do you know what ECV is short for?

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Internet care package.

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Close. Um it stands for uh electronic uh communication uh uh ECV vehicle.

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Oh. Do we have an ECV?

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Uh no, we don't. Well, I guess we sort of do with Clark's uh motorized scooter.

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Oh my goodness, that does electrically convey him.

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Is the ones that you find like Disney?

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Uh remember we were talking about that?

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Uh we were wondering if if if the use of those has gone up over the years.

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Oh, right. Since the launch of WALLE.

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Do we just want to get right into Corrections Corner? Do you have some more corners?

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I have another corner, but I I'm gonna save it to see if it fits into an existing topic. So we'll we'll

Corrections Corner

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just we'll come back to that. All right.

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That'll be interesting. So uh this is corrections. Oh, hey guys, this is the audience online. I already said that. Oh, you did? Yes. Do you say what our show is?

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I said that we were married.

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That's a start.

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But what we do here on this show, do you want me to say it?

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Check this out. Okay. Ready for this?

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Ready.

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What this show is is we're emulating the standing in line experience prior to a concert, concert of which we perform. Today we'll be performing Rancid. If you're listening to this on Spotify or Apple Music or any of your other favorite podcast platforms, then you will have to go to YouTube to check out our cover of Old Friend by Rancid and and Out Come the Wolves. The Wolfs.

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Featuring me on the left hand.

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Featuring you with your with your left hand playing your best Matt Freeman, the six sick bass line, and me just fumbling through the rust.

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No, you were good.

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It was fun.

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It was it? Sometimes I think after we record, I'm like, do we still speak to each other? Are we mad at each other? The crappy part is it's But then I just talk and you don't seem mad, so I just move on.

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It's just stress, it's just stressful. That's all it is. It's stressful for me.

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Okay.

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I it's a there's a big difference between me playing by myself, messing around with my guitar, and then actually performing something that's structured that needs to be right. That two people need to be on the same page with of with. It's tricky. It's part of the re I mean, again, like there's a million reasons why we do this. Yeah. One is so that we can grow closer through stress.

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It's bonding us. We're having a trauma bond.

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We just held hands. Your hands are very cold, by the way.

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You know, I told you it's 30 below in here.

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The other is so that I can learn how to work through things like this and appreciate them more. I've one thing I have learned is that I've listened to music a little differently than when we started this podcast.

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Okay, good.

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I appreciate things more, even if I don't like the song. Sometimes I appreciate things in the song. Isn't that nice?

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It's so nice. I have a footstool.

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It's improving my worldview.

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And I'm leaning back.

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Oh.

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Don't worry about that, everybody.

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Uh ECVs.

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What about them? I mean, why do you bring them up?

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They've got they've gone up significantly. Oh, they have to use usage over the years.

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Do you think that there's gonna be any any in line at this concert with us?

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Oh my gosh, yeah. To see Rancid?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, they've been around for a little while.

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You think any of their fans are being conveyed around electronically?

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Yes, I do. I very much do. Um so good for them.

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I mean, you can't you can't stop just because you can't.

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No, I'm not hating. I'm just saying it's uh it's mainly due to the increase of just the the baby baby boomer population.

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Aging.

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Um, yeah. It's uh used to be $30 a day at Disney, 2005.

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Jeez, what is it now?

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65. Oh 2025.

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That's yeah, that's double plus.

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It is.

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In 20 years.

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Longest running. This is corrections corner, by the way.

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What are we correcting?

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We're just kinda kind of correcting corrections corner is a sort of like answered questions. It's a placeholder for when people email us at at audiencewon'likeit at gmail.com. Not the audience won't like it, although I might get that as well. Um or or in the comments of YouTube or in the comments of your favorite podcast platform or in the comments of Instagram. We will potentially talk to you.

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Does it look like I'm in the loving embrace of a robot right now?

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It does. I was just about to ask, is there a robot is there bender back there? Um Johnny5.

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I'm saying I'm gonna be taking Instagram notes while you're talking, just don't worry about it.

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Oh, awesome. Um Instagram notes, what are those?

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Things I'm gonna put on the Instagram feed.

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Okay. I usually take notes when I listen to the podcast afterward. I'm trying to find clips and don't worry about what I'm doing.

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All right, what's next on Corrections Corner, ECB lover?

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I did um the longest running telenuevos. Oh Mal Hakwa Maha Sal?

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I thought they were telenovellas.

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Telenovellas? Telenuevos is the name of uh it's the name of a breakfast entree in that uh one of the dimensions of Rick and Morty. The one where the phones are Telenuevos? The one where the phones are the people. We don't need a correction scorer for that because you just credited me.

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That's right.

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Um M-A-L-H-A, kind of a C, kind of an A O. It's in Brazil from 1995 to 2020, 25 years.

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Wow, so that's the longest running one.

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Telenovellas don't usually run that long. They're usually like six to eight months max.

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What?

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Yeah, according to this.

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I bet they're all the same, though.

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You think so? That's I don't know.

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That sounds all soap operas are all the same. Some form of regardless of language language or culture. Soap operist?

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Yeah.

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I think so.

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I'd say so. Okay. It's pretty rude. Um the show The Soup, is it still on? No. It's canceled. Started as Talk Soup in 1991, became The Soup, 2004 to 2015. Brief 2020 revival. The new host cancelled after 19 episodes.

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Oh, we made it longer than him.

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Oh my gosh.

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With our 21sie.

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Who was that? I wonder.

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Who cares?

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Okay. Corrections Corner. Next week.

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Let me know when you think it might be time for a confession corner.

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I'll first I'll confess something. Okay. I made a mistake. This is what Corrections Corner is. It's full of mistakes. Corre uh Dr. Octopus. You kind of like questioned me on it, and I just kept talking. Dr. Octopus from Spider-Man. I said Dr. Octagon. I was thinking of Black Elvis, also known as Dr. Doom, also known as You Ready for This? It's Cool Keith. Do you know Cool Keith? No. Okay. Dr. Ultra, Crazy Lou, Robbie Analog, Papa Large, Rhythm X, Keith Korg, Dickie Long Docking.

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No way.

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I'm going by that now. Platinum Rich.

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I'm not calling you that.

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Underwear pissy? Is that kind of like a 21esie? Number one producer, Exitron Geiger Counter.

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What are you even talking about?

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Exatron Geiger Counter 1 Gamma Plus Sequencer. These are his aliases.

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Whose?

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Dr. Geiger.

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Doctor Octagon. The guy who I had in my head with the book.

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But not Dr.

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He's a rapper.

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What's the name of the doctor in Spider-Man?

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Dr. Octopus.

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Okay.

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And I said, and I you questioned me on it, and I said Dr. Octopusy.

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Okay.

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This is a family show. That was a family reference.

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To a family.

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To the Bond family.

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For a family.

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To the Bond family.

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To the Bond franchise family.

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Okay, go ahead. What's your confession? Because I'm not done with corrections, but continue.

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You know, I don't want you to leave me when I tell you this.

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What the heck?

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I've never seen Groundhog Day.

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Are you kidding? No wonder you are so dumb about the rules. I was like, have you I almost said, have you ever never seen this sh movie? How the heck have you done? Okay, you know what? This is no, this is wonderful. You hadn't seen The Rock either. Think about the joy that brought us. Had you seen Die Hard with a Vengeance?

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No, I told you I never saw it.

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Okay, that's yeah. This is great.

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I never said that I saw a Groundhog Day, by the way.

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I feel like I've hyped it up way too much. Did you hear me? I assume you did.

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Yeah, I know, and I could tell that you were, and I thought this is gonna play out really nicely for the tomorrow. Yes, with uh with the Tom Groove. Is that the one with the swimming pool in the sky?

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No.

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Which one's that?

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Wait, no, no, that's the one with uh Chris Pratt where he gets like teleported and they're all free.

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But they came out at the same time, right? Hedge of Tomorrow is the one where he keeps like waking up when he's about to get he's at the like line, soldier line.

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Yeah, he keeps dying, they're fighting aliens. Emily Bunt Blunt is in it.

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Emily Bunt. Emily Bunting. Anyway, I wanted you to know that I didn't want you to I appreciate you coming clean.

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We're you realize what we have to do now.

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Watch it.

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We'll have to watch it like real soon.

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Content generation. Thank you. You're welcome.

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Yeah, okay. It's that took a lot, that took a lot of bravery. I you know, honestly, I admire you. I would have liked to have done it sooner, like before we got married. I feel trapped.

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I feel trapped. All right. What else do you

Time Loop Follow-Up Discussion

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got for that?

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The last podcast we talked about um living what live what would we do if we lived the same day in the time loop. Yeah, in the time loop the same day, 40. We're so dumb about the rule. Dude, I got a I got a couple things to say there. All right, moving on though, corrections quarter. Uh not packs, K Pax. That's the uh Kevin Spacey movie. Okay. 2001, where he's an alien.

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Is he K for Kevin?

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Uh yeah, K for Kevin. That's crazy. PAX for Spacey. Carol King did play the piano on every song and tapestry. Um it was uh James Taylor's band as well. They pretty much had the same band. Uh do I have any names? Uh sometimes I write names down. Uh the core band, uh Danny Korchmar on guitar, Charles Larkey on bass, who's her husband.

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Charles Mullarkey.

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Mullarkey. He went by Mullarkey for his fans. Russ Kunk Russ Kunkel. Underwear pissy.

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Russ Kunkel sounds like a skin disease or something.

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You get you can get uh some pretty nasty in skin infections for playing drums. Yeah. That's what he played. Joel O'Brien also drums. I think they shared sticks. That's what happened there. Uh no formal band name, but later known as the section or the mellow mafia. Wow, I like that. Me too. There's a couple things that I I was listening to to our time loop. This I I I'm I'm sort of taking advantage of Correction Score. I'm resurrecting old topics. Number one, one thing I want to mention. When we talked about the rock, I started talking about both these things, but but but you cut me off.

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And I never Was it like 6:30 and we started at noon?

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That's really rude. So, and The Rock. I wanted to say, this is not great news, but this really should have been an announcements corner, probably. The rock, I think, is technically in the science fiction universe. And I feel like because remember, they acknowledged the alien landing in Area 51. They like said that that was a that was that is in the canon of Michael Bay, the rock universe.

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Yeah. I heard that part.

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When you combine that with what he finds at the end of the movie with aliens, I feel like they need to do something there.

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Yeah.

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They need to do something real bad.

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Real bad.

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They need to do something that's very good, but they really badly need to do it.

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They need a time loop. All right. Let's let's let's get it going, guys. Come on. Okay. Nick Cage is he will do anything for money. Let's do it. And do it well. Alright. Uh, but another thing. I said I forgot to talk about not sleeping and nootropics and open mic night, but you but I was I was I was cut off. I wrote she cut me off. She, her, the wife.

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Wifey. Wifey.

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Okay. So I wanted to see what it'd be like since you since you uh you snap back at the end of the day in in a time loop and you get like full energy and full healing and all that stuff.

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Yeah.

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So would you ever really have to sleep? That'd be really interesting. How long could you go without sleeping? And then I'd experiment with a lot of different like speeds and nootropics and like amphetamines, that kind of thing, and just see like what the optimal just see what I kind of crazy stuff I could do to my brain for uh in that with that regard. Uh and then the other thing was um open mic night. I wanted to go to open mic nights and like comedy bits and you know guitar and whatnot. And first of all, play them. Get get used to get comfortable. I said I wanted to become better. But I would also like to occasionally uh assume the name of people, dress up just like them, memorize their entire acts, and go on right before them just to screw with them.

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I had a similar thing that I wished I would have thought of since we were in Columbus, right? That's where we were having our time, Luke. They have Broadway plays. I thought I would like to learn learn a part and then like hurt the person to make it so that they can't go on and then be their understudy and and perform.

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You said you didn't want to hurt yourself, but you're totally fine.

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We're gonna reset.

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I was just gonna embarrass them.

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That's yours is funnier, but I think it's funny that we both had No, I liked it.

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I I like the song. We're gonna be performers. This woman at a onesie.

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A 21esie. Please.

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The police are like, well, did it have snaps? I think it did. Then it's a onesie. It's a 21esie. It's a 21ie. All right, moving on. Um crap. What? I was supposed to look up what a sheepknot is. I didn't.

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Okay.

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Uh it's gonna stick around. Hey guys, make sure you subscribe to this uh channel because uh we're gonna tell you. What the sheep knot is next time.

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Is it called a sheep shank?

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Is it a sheep shank? Or lamb shank?

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Lamb chop? It's a bag of lamb chops.

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Uh Leslie said, yeah. You said that you would win your the go, like win the lottery over and over. I don't think that would happen.

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I said I would win the lottery over and over.

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You'd have to do that on a day, we'd have to do the time loop on a day where you won the lottery. You mentioned winning the lottery. I just won the lottery.

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Well, but wait, wait, wait. Couldn't I just watch the what the lottery numbers were at the end of the day and then remember them and win the lottery the next day? Pick those numbers?

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Oh, you mean for the c for for when you're exiting the time loop? Maybe that's what you meant.

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I'm sure I didn't mean anything quite so complex. Interesting. Interesting.

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I'm gonna listen to it again and we're gonna bring this up next week.

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Okay, I'm sure you will. If we've had a lot of things that have had a lot of staying power.

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The Icelandic letter that looks like a tongue sticking out.

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Yeah.

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It's called a thorn.

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Oh.

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And it makes the voiceless TH sound like think. Like the uh like in uh Project Hail Mary. Which I will I don't want to give any spoilers.

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I just thought Are you saying think or thank?

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Think. Think like thank you. Or I think that.

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You have narrow vows.

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Or I think that with my brain.

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Can you say thank?

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Thank?

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Yeah.

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Now I'm from Cleveland.

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You are from Cleveland.

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Thank. That's how we say it. Basketball. Um trumpets on little talks. Who played the trumpets? Ari Bragi Karasan played the trumpet.

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Cute.

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Um also Ragnilidor Gunnar's Distovnantor did as well.

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Was he in that like third um Thor movie?

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Yeah, that's I thought his name sounded familiar. Fr is it furmiliar?

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Fermiliar. Mmm, that's what it is when you know a dog.

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Um I also said something really stupid. When you know a dog. Oh, a familiar.

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No.

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A familiar.

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They're familiar.

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Oh, fur, like F-U R?

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Yeah, is that what you were saying? I thought you meant like a familiar, like uh I know what you thought, but you said familiar.

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Yeah.

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Okay, it's fine.

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It's what when you know a dog, yeah. Yeah. I know that you'd acknowledge it.

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It's familiar to me. That's how you use it in a sentence.

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Classic information. But is it familiar? Isn't that what like a like if you were to conjure some sort of uh Right, like a little companion type thing. Yeah, I'm a big familiar fan.

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Um it's like seven o'clock.

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One more thing. Uh one more thing. I'm s really I'm really dumb. Like uh I uh in the time loop piece, but I said I wouldn't be able to read a whole book in a day. I don't have to read in a day because remember what page I'm on.

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I'm sure I said many dumb things, especially given that I didn't really understand that.

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It shows you how much I read. It shows you how much I depend on notes. I take so many notes now that my I don't really have a working memory anymore.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, they did some brain scans of some people who are primary chat GPT users, and it's not looking good.

SPEAKER_01

Oh really? Yeah. Well, good. A good thing I switched the Claude.

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Sorry, AI users.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Leslie, you said one more thing, and this is the Rob Mystic corner. This is where you said something and I missed it on air. And I would like to go ahead and acknowledge it. Um I said that I would set myself on fire in the time move because I was talking about get building up like a pain tolerance. And you said, would you do it by burning carpet? And it was a joke you were making fun of me when I actually set myself on fire burning carpet.

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And you didn't hear me say it.

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I didn't, but I just did. Hey, so there you go.

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All

Consumption Corner: I Am Sam Soundtrack & The SteelDrivers

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right.

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Shall we move on to consumption corner? Do you have any more announcements?

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Do you have a lot of things? Because I have three links.

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Can I can I mention a couple things?

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Yeah.

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Um, I'd want to hear your three things. I would rather do your three things than I okay, so I have You have some movie you gotta talk about for five minutes. Yeah. Okay. Coolie High.

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And I think it's its own title. Five Minute Movie Corner.

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Five Minute Movie Corner? For for movies that I watch by myself that you didn't watch and you have no interest in?

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Correct.

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Okay. So there's Coolie High. There is uh the Cactus Blossoms. You're dreaming. Did you listen to that album?

SPEAKER_05

No, I you sent me that and I never got around to it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh wow, we'll have to do it next time, though.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, there's always next week.

SPEAKER_01

So Phantom Toll Booth? The book? We could talk about that.

SPEAKER_05

Um I'd like to read that, so maybe table that and I'll read it and we can talk about together.

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We can do that. Uh that is Rancid. What do you have?

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I have Russian doll.

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Oh gosh, I didn't I didn't do any notes for that, but I've I could I we could talk about that.

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And then I have two albums or an album and a band.

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Let's go. Go ahead. Start it off.

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Well, we talked a little we've talked several times about the I am Sam album.

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Yes.

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And so I went back and listened to it.

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That was the Beatles covers Beatles covers, yeah.

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And it came out at a time when I was, I think, a senior. No.

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Is Ben Harper on that?

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Yeah, Ben Harper, Rufus Wainwright, Cheryl Crow.

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Yeah. Uh Rufus Wainwright does Across the Universe?

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Yeah.

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Doesn't uh What's Her Face uh Fiona Apple do a version of the couple? She's got one.

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Oh, she has a version of that, but on that album. Uh there's a lot of good people, and there's a lot of great versions of all those songs. Um cool. So I really enjoyed that. It took me back to college days.

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Have we seen the movie? I never.

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I never have, and I really don't want to.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think I have either. I I got it confused with Summer of Sam.

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So I am Sam, I believe, is about person with maybe Down syndrome or another type of chromosomal disorder.

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How'd the Beatles get worked into it?

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I don't know. I've never seen it. Oh yeah.

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So anyway, it's a great we should stop talking about it.

SPEAKER_05

It's a great remake album. And then I also, because I um I don't remember how I even got to it, but the Steel Drivers, I started listening to the Steel Drivers. Oh, because I uh it came up on my playlist and I made you listen to it. Because it's a little it's a little folky, but it's got a bit of a little rock blues feel to it, I feel like I liked it.

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I thought it was cool.

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So anyway, those were my two things.

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Is it like a kind of like a bluegrass band?

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Yes, but it it fell a little bit more blues. They should call it bluesgrass. Did I just create a thing?

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Probably not.

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Hey bluesgrass.

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Um no, we'll we'll look into it.

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Okay.

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Bluesgrass.

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Alright, and then Russian doll.

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Any standout covers on that I am Sam? Any favorites? Any how about this? This is really putting you on the spot here. Anything you like better than the original Beatles version?

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No. But none that I was like, this is trash. Like they're all I I like they all sounded like the artist that was remaking them.

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Cool.

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There's a you and me chasing another da-da-da-da-da-da. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's my favorite song on the album.

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What is that?

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Uh I'm going home. Is that the same song?

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Dang it.

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Going home.

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We'll figure it out.

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No, you guys don't want to just keep listening to this.

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Move on. Russian doll. Russian doll.

Russian Doll Season 1 Discussion

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Russian doll, speaking of time loops.

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Yeah.

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Is fantastic. I loved every second of it.

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I did too. I was we watched the first season, by the way.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we watched the first season of Russian doll. And I'd love to watch the second season, ASAP.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we'll we'll get on that. Um, I heard the second season's quite a bit different, but it's still pretty good. I have no idea what that means. I didn't know anything going into this other than Jessica from American Pie is in it. And um and it's a time loop.

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Yeah.

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I'm sold a time loop. Not so much a Jessica at American Pie, although she Natasha Leone was fantastic. She was awesome. What did she, who'd she say she was? She was like I'm cross between.

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Oh, I can't remember.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it wasn't we'll have to tell you next time. It wasn't Sam Kinnison, but it was uh It wasn't Sam Kinnison. It was somebody Oh, Dice.

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Ah, Andrew Dice Clay.

SPEAKER_01

It's like I've like a cross between Andrew Dice Clay and I can't remember who I don't remember, but she's like, I love dice. I was like, I love dice too. She was great smoking cigarettes like this. I don't have the shoulder mobility for it. Um so did you I would highly recommend you watch it.

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It's it's kind of about well, she just isn't a time loop.

SPEAKER_01

Why don't we do this? Okay. Why don't we watch season two and we'll just talk about the series.

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Okay.

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Um in a week or two from now.

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Okay.

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That way that way I'll have some interesting questions to ask, and uh we'll find out who she's who who she's crossing with uh Andrew Dice Clay.

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Alright.

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Um yeah, she's fantastic though. I've I I laugh my laugh my little tail off watching that show.

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She had some really great zingers.

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And it's got some pretty it kind of took a nice deep spin through some sci-fi stuff too.

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I liked it.

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I really liked it.

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Alright, so you ready for your five-minute hook coolie high timer?

Cooley High Five-Minute Movie Corner

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Oh yes, I'm ready for my five-minute cooley high timer. Now, cooley high. You ready?

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Are you ready for me to start the timer?

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Let me find a couple links. I put I left for myself. Do me a favor, go ahead and tell me what you know about Cooley High.

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I don't know anything about it. Are you serious?

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Do you know what decade it's from?

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90s.

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No.

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80s.

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No.

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70s.

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70s, yes. I'm stalling while I can pull up the soundtrack because I'd like to start with this.

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Where does it take place? Chicago. Chicago. Is it like inner city high?

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It sure is.

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Is Michelle Pfeiffer in it?

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Michelle Pfeiffer is not, but there is a white teacher. And that's the only white woman in the entire uh in the entire uh movie? Movie, I believe. Um, here it is. Cooley high.

SPEAKER_05

You are you should be very proud of me because I did not start your timer yet.

SPEAKER_01

You didn't? No. Oh wow. Uh okay, so I do want to. Yeah, go ahead. Go. Yeah, Cooley High 1975. Never seen this before. Um it's one of those things I heard about from I have no idea what. I the I I dug through my head because I I'm almost positive I heard about it from Camp Lowe. Do you do you know? They're like a they're like a um, they're their own thing, but they're kind I always think about outcast when I think of them. They're kind of eccentric. Uh late 90s, early 2000s rappers. Okay. Uh they have a song called Cooley High.

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What's Cooley mean?

SPEAKER_01

Uh, I don't actually know. It's the name of the school. Okay. Um cool. I think it is. It's cool. Dang it.

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You can let me know next week.

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It's uh yeah, Cooley Vocational High School.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01

It's a real school. It closed in 1979. This movie was made in 75, we didn't say it already. Um I don't think the Camp Lowe song had anything to do with this movie. I did uh I this is one of those movies that I realized inspired a million different things, including um John Singleton, who made a the other 1991 movie starring a character named Ricky.

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Stand in Delivery.

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Not Ricky O, the story of Ricky, not that was 1991. Um and there wasn't a Ricky in it either, I don't believe. No, Boys Boys in the Hood. Oh this movie is basically like Boys in the Hood. Um it's a more fun-loving, but it's it takes a dark turn. It's got a lot of libation, you know, like pouring out liquor, and it it's got a lot of fun-loving scenes. Mistakes are made, they catch up with them in the end, and it's a 70s movie, and it's a ghetto movie.

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It sounds like a depressing movie.

SPEAKER_01

It's a lot of fun, though. It's a it's a really it's really funny. It's I'll talk about the content in a minute. It's rated PG.

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Uh-huh.

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I'm gonna go ahead and say it's the hardest PG I've ever seen in my life. This movie, honestly, is just a stone's throw from R.

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Ah.

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And it would have just it it would have been a hard PG 13.

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Today? In today's money? Yeah.

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I'll talk about that in a minute because I want to go through the parents' guide of IMDB. Um, but the soundtrack is sick. I I'm not gonna talk about all the scenes from it because Leslie only gives me five minutes, and she won't care.

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And we already have two and a half left.

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Okay, so we have listen, we got Diana Ross and the Supremes, Stevie Wonder, the Four Tops, Supremes again, Luther Allison, Martha Reeves and the Vandelas, the Marvelettes, Smoky, Smokey, Junior Walker and the All-Stars, um, Barrett Strong, Mary Wells, Freddie Perrin did like all the all the music for it. The Temptations are on it, more Junior Walker, more Smokey, tons of Freddie Perrin. GC Cameron, he did It's So Hard to Say Goodbye to yesterday. You know that song?

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It's so high. Yes, I know that song.

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Boyce to Men.

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Yeah.

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Boys to Men, I believe named their album Cooley High. Anyways, so Boy Some Men had a shout-out. I wasn't a huge Boy to Men guy, so I didn't know that at the time, but I just looked it up. It's it's um Boys to Men. Look at look and see if you can find that real quick. Okay. What am I looking at? Boys to Men album? Boys to Men album of Cooley High. Okay. Yeah. So the uh this this movie, um, like I said, I I really did enjoy it. I recommend you watch it if Oh gosh. I mean honestly, I'd written.

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Coolie High Harmony.

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Yeah, I'd recommend you watch it if you like to see like what's the name of the album. Cooley High Harmony. You know, I I've always had it gotten a kick out of listening to like if I heard a rapper, like the whole reason I watched Dolomite is because I heard Snoop rap about Dolomite. So I went and watched Dolomite and Petey Weep's Straw and Human Tornado and all these like Rudy Ray Moore movies, which led me to a bunch of other movies. That's how I saw the Mac, that's how I've seen Superflight. I just I want to know, I want to be in on the joke that my favorite rappers are telling, you know. So I kind of go down those rabbit holes, and that's essentially what this podcast is. But uh Cooley High, if you have an interest in you know, like I said, John Singleton or just a million other um kind of coming of age high. It's like it's like Chicago urban American graffiti with a little bit more of an edge.

SPEAKER_05

Can we get the the track listing from Cooley High? Can we get all those artists to be at our concert?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, a few of them for sure. We haven't talked about our concert in a while. Why don't you go and talk about our concert while I pull up the parents' guy?

SPEAKER_05

Rob and I are planning a concert for I don't know when it's gonna be, but it's gonna feature a lot of dead posthumous people. This really doesn't let me play with stuff.

SPEAKER_01

Really obnoxious on the recording. You just hear clicking the whole time. I I'm just telling you, I would turn it off. If I was listening to it, I wouldn't listen to this podcast anymore.

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Should I leave?

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You should just quit screwing with the cables.

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I can't help it. I'm a baby mommy. Anyway.

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Quit talking about cables.

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We got uh we got cables are my life. We're planning a concert. It's looking like it's not gonna come through, though. Just kidding. We're having a lot of people, they're riding in on stuff. It's gonna be like a we are the world benefit concert. What are we benefiting again?

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These people are gonna ride in on We're trying to we're trying to make the perfect 21sie.

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Album.

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Album.

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The people in this show are gonna be riding in on 21sie. Anyway, you have long runs out of time, so tell us the story of Cooley High.

Cooley High IMDB Parents Guide & PG Ratings

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I just want to go through the parents guide. The Parents Guide. Just because it it is like I'm trying to I was trying to think of the most hardcore PG movies. Because you know, so PG, the PG rating was created in 80s, 1984. Do you know what the first PG movie was?

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The Goonies.

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No.

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Do you know what it was?

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Oh my gosh, I wrote it down. Um look up the first P G uh look at the first PG uh, your secretary? Yeah. So the sex scenes. Oh, okay. It has it has a sex scene in it with full nudity. Now you don't see you don't see like parts parts, you know?

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PG or PG 13?

SPEAKER_01

PG. The first PG-13 movie, sorry.

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PG 13 movie.

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Yeah, the first PG 13 movie. Um so like the hardcore PG PG movies are like Temple of Doom, Jaws, Poltergeist.

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Those were Red Dawn.

SPEAKER_01

Red Dawn, yeah, that's right. It was Red Dawn. That was our first PG 13 movie. Have you seen that? No. We should probably watch that too sometime. All right, so you have uh the sex scene's pretty, it's pretty it I can't believe it's in a PG movie. I mean, didn't an airplane have nipples in it for like a just brief second? All right. It had like I I won't get into the details, but it's like five minutes, maybe.

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That's long. It's uncomfortably long.

SPEAKER_01

There's a lot of there's a there's a girl using the restroom in it, um, and he's like in there with her. It's actually a pretty funny scene. Um there's a uh there's like these makeout scenes where this guy's like trying to talk a girl into doing stuff she's not really wanting to do, and they're doing feely stuff and and whatnot. There's a lot of that.

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Okay.

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Um there is I I was hope sometimes you ever go through the Parents Guide.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I've read The Parents Guide.

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On IMDB. Yes. Sometimes they'll give you like the exact counts, like 678 uses of the F-word. You know, this doesn't have it. You could tell whoever wrote this probably grew up watching this movie. They're just like they say the N-word sometimes. It's like, no, they say it a lot. They say it all the time. And they say all sorts of stuff. Um there's no F-word in it. There's a lot of fights, there's a lot of uh a lot of prostitution, a lot of uh there's uh some great white cop stuff. Um there's some great but you've never seen Minnesota Society, have you?

SPEAKER_05

Oh my gosh. Is that the cheeseburger one? Is it? Okay, then I've seen it.

SPEAKER_01

The cheeseburger. That's the cheeseburger movie. Menace of Society. You don't want these cheeseburgers.

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Okay, go on. Anyways. You're so far out of time with that.

SPEAKER_01

Alright, we're done. It's just really it's really it's really rough. It's I was just very impressed. There's a lot of guys getting high and and hammered the whole time. Like it's just a it's a party movie. It's a good time. I'm not like saying you shouldn't watch this. It's just it's crazy to see a PG movie like this.

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Yeah.

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And you see why they made PG 13. That's the that's the angle I decided to take with my five minutes.

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Okay.

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You go with that?

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Would you watch it with your children?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I don't have the same hang-ups that you do.

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I would not watch it with my children. Uh-oh, uh-oh.

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What is it? Oh, son of a butthole.

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Welcome back.

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Sorry about that, guys. I'm an idiot. Um, I don't remember what we were talking about, but uh You shouldn't be so mean to yourself. I shouldn't?

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No.

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I hate it when I make stupid mistakes like that.

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Everyone does it. Guys, if you are listening.

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I made a checklist, I just ignore it every time.

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Ah If you have any helpful words of joy and love for Rob, send them to audiencewon'tlike it at gmail.com.

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If you want to uh yeah. If you want to just move it over to the city, we were wrapping up.

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I think we were wrapping up Cooley High ratings.

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Let's move on.

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So let's go ahead to our main topic, I think.

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Let's do that.

SPEAKER_01

Was there was there a third topic you want to mention?

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No, I did all my topics.

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And we didn't we didn't do cactus blossoms.

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Oh, I forgot.

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Um was there was there was there something else?

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I didn't have anything else.

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Okay, let's

Taxi: Show Overview & Bob James Theme Song

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move on.

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All right, let's talk about Taxi.

SPEAKER_01

Taxi specifically?

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Three episodes. Three episodes. And I was wondering.

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Yeah.

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Sorry to put you on the spot. But since we're not allowed to talk about stuff in real life anymore.

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Yeah.

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Uh could you just give me just like uh if you were gonna talk to someone who'd never seen taxi before, uh-huh, like myself, like a just a like little blurb about taxi. Just give a give the audience a little catch-up on taxi.

SPEAKER_01

Taxi, uh Taxi was a show that was Late 70s, early 80s. Late 70s, early 80s. Man, I made a bunch of notes, but they are not uh they're not in order. And I always look at my notes before I go on.

SPEAKER_05

Uh-huh. Go on.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't do that this time. Huh. Huh. Isn't that weird?

SPEAKER_05

I wasn't sick, guys. Rob's has had maybe one day's worth of calories in the last four days. And so he's just a special type of Rob today.

SPEAKER_01

Special guy. Um, okay, so never mind. Scratch that joke that you didn't hear. Good good thing. Okay, so um Taxi was a show that was on, I think maybe seventy eight, maybe seventy nine through eighty three, eighty four.

SPEAKER_05

I think so, because that one guy died.

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It featured oh, uh um Bobby.

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Yeah.

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What the heck's in the actor's name?

SPEAKER_05

I have no idea. Okay, Jeff Conway.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. Well, Andy Kaufman died too.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I thought Andy Kaufman died right then at the end of the season.

SPEAKER_01

No. Well, yeah, he died in like 86. Oh, I think that's a good one. He died of lung cancer. Was it 84?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but then I didn't know Conway died that. I thought he was just.

SPEAKER_01

Conway died in like I think 2011, maybe. That's not who I was talking about. Everybody else I think is.

SPEAKER_05

What's Andy Kaufman's name on the show?

SPEAKER_01

Uh Locke.

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And where is he from?

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Eastern Europe? I think they actually say where he's from.

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Yeah, I think he's from a fictional country.

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That's from um built up at the border island.

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Right.

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No, no, no. He's got you know that uh Space Russia. You know who was supposed to be, Bobby?

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No.

SPEAKER_01

I think Bobby? Yeah, Bobby, not Locka. I think Robin Williams. The only reason I thought of that was because I was thinking of Morgan Mindy, who had he kind of had a similar bit.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01

You know, then kind of um he, I think, was supposed to be on the show, but he did another movie. He did another show instead. Oh, wait. I think he might have done Morkamindy. Oh. I think that's what he did instead of. Oh, you haven't?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, but anyway, give me a quick like two-sentence blurb about what's this premise of taxi.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, there's a bunch of taxi drivers in New York.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. And who they all work for?

SPEAKER_01

They work for Sunshine Cabs, I think is the name of the city.

SPEAKER_05

It's run by Danny DeVito.

SPEAKER_01

It's run by Danny DeVito. Yep. And then I think Jeff is the tall black dude in the back who never says anything. Uh huh. But he's in like every episode. Um, I watched the show. Is that a good enough explanation?

SPEAKER_05

Sure. Is he actually tall or is he just sharing a booth with Danny DeVito?

SPEAKER_01

That's a good question. That's a really good question. How tall was Jeff? What's his name, Jeff? Anyway. Yeah. I had notes on the show.

SPEAKER_05

And it's a sitcom.

SPEAKER_01

It is a sitcom, and it's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_05

I'll tell you, I never in my life ever wanted to watch it because I just something about the intro made me think about MASH, and I hated MASH. The soundtrack.

SPEAKER_00

Why did you hate MASH?

SPEAKER_05

Well, because you know what that theme song represented? The end of the Saturday morning cartoons. It came on at 11.

SPEAKER_01

Such a strange association.

SPEAKER_05

And then it was a war show. And I didn't want to watch that. So for some reason, my brain had it lumped in with Taxi, MASH and Taxi. So I'm happy to be wrong.

SPEAKER_01

The theme song. Yeah. Um, well, let's talk about the music.

SPEAKER_05

Let's talk about baby Bobby Jamesy.

SPEAKER_01

Before we get into, we're gonna be talking a lot about Reverend Jim episode. I went. Christopher Lloyd is like my favorite character on the show, or my favorite the Jim is my favorite character on the show. Played by Christopher Lloyd. And I wanted to pick some Jim-centric episodes. So we watched We watched uh three of them.

SPEAKER_05

We did. I loved them.

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna talk about them. You did?

SPEAKER_05

I loved them. Good. Let's watch the whole series.

SPEAKER_01

Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

It could be our next bedtime sitcom.

SPEAKER_01

Watch Taxi? Yes.

SPEAKER_05

That's a thought. That is a thought. Because when are we gonna we have anything lined up after communicating?

SPEAKER_01

That's a lot of Bob James, maybe.

SPEAKER_05

Baby. Every night. We can skip that part.

SPEAKER_01

No, we're not gonna skip that part.

SPEAKER_05

The same song every night.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

That song is what got me into the show.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I used to watch uh Nick at Night. I don't remember when Nick at Night started airing taxi. Obviously, obviously I didn't watch the show when it was out because when you were still dead. I was still dead. I was born, I think, when one of the episodes came out. I was born in 82. This show came out a few years before. One of the shows that we watched recently. One of the episodes. Um Bob James is like, I don't know. He might be one of my he might be my favorite musician of all time, just as far as all of his work. He did the entire soundtrack, so all the stuff between scenes. He did Angela is his uh is the taxi theme song. It's a different version of the one that's on uh the album Touchdown, which is the album that's on. But um anyways, it's still still a great version of it. Uh it was originally supposed to be Touchdown. The song Touchdown off the touchdown album was supposed to be the theme song, which is super funky, it would have been pretty cool. But I'm glad they went with Angela. It's just one of my all-time favorite songs.

SPEAKER_05

This is a pretty long intro.

SPEAKER_01

It is a long intro.

SPEAKER_05

Is that normal for the time?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I guess. You know, I don't really know.

SPEAKER_05

I mean because now you're lucky if you get an intro to a show to a song.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. TV intro theme songs, I used to put a lot of work into those. And uh I remember when just last night when you were watching all the names come up, uh-huh. You're like, wow, there's a lot of people in there. There's a lot of big names in this show.

SPEAKER_05

But I think if from a music therapist standpoint, you hear that song and it cues you right up to expect to sit down and hear the to watch the show. So like when we do when I do music therapy groups, I always start with the exact same song because it puts people in the frame of mind that I want them to be in to set the stage for the group. So I mean I feel like there are these days people's are short attention spans, like kind of like our theme song.

SPEAKER_01

Like when I like when I just na knock it out of the parking lot.

SPEAKER_05

Every time it really sets the stage for what to expect. Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_01

Of what not that exactly.

SPEAKER_05

But I think the people today just they're just missing an opportunity by not having a song.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, or you could you could just make there was that short there not short, unfortunately, but that period of time where every single theme song sounded like Game of Thrones.

SPEAKER_05

That's still happening, I think. Well, here's the thing. Do you think you would remember even half of the cartoons that you remember if you didn't remember every single word of those theme songs?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_05

See?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you're right. So that's interesting.

SPEAKER_05

Anyway.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Angela, the the taxi theme song was supposed to be it was supposed to just be a little 15-second transition between scenes and like I think the third episode, but they're like, no, this is what we need for the theme song. Yeah. Good choice, uh, James L. Brooks.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

The um the scene where they're driving over, I think it's the Queen's Bridge, if I'm not mistaken. They're drive you you said how do they clear that off to do that? They didn't. They they filmed it early in the morning and just so they got they just happened to get a 15-second clip.

SPEAKER_05

I'm just replaying it or something. They just lift it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's Tony Danza driving, too.

SPEAKER_05

It is. Oh, I want to watch another episode now so I can see it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so um That's great. It is great. It's I I I haven't seen all the episodes. In fact, I probably, if I guessed, I bet I've seen a third of them.

SPEAKER_05

Wow. Oh my gosh, it's gonna be a real gem for us to come up for bedtime.

SPEAKER_01

There's some there are some that aren't there aren't home runs. Like like these, these were like I kind of handpicked these. Like I knew these episodes were great. There, there's some, they're all it's a great show. It's just uh I wouldn't expect to s side-splitting hilarity.

SPEAKER_05

There, I mean, I had some real like laugh out loud moments on a couple of those.

SPEAKER_01

There's some like the the one the um Jim Space Odyssey, would which the the one where he where he goes Where he's filling out the tests.

SPEAKER_05

Are we gonna talk about these episode by episode?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you want to let me see if there's any other general um well let's just say who's on the show.

SPEAKER_05

So there's Danny DeVito, Christopher Lloyd, Tony Danza, Judd Hirsch, Mary Lou Mary Lou Henner.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I'm said Renner.

SPEAKER_05

I almost said Jeremy Renner.

SPEAKER_01

Jeremy Renner.

SPEAKER_05

Jeremy Lou Renner. Jeremy Lou Renner. I want to get a picture of Jeremy Lou Renner. Um and is that everybody? Uh let me go through. Spot Robert Conway. Jeff Conway, I know.

SPEAKER_01

Jeff Conway. I say Conway, but it's uh There is an extra A in there. It is, it's Conway. You're right.

SPEAKER_05

Why can't I use my phone?

SPEAKER_01

Um, yeah, James Burr. This is a different, this is a this is a different show. Um the what's the lady's name from uh she plays Locka's I don't know what her name is. Freaking screw it. It's she's uh the the she's from Star Trek Next Generation. I mean Star Trek Strange New Worlds. She's the the one who lives forever. She is Locka's wife or girlfriend on the show.

SPEAKER_05

Oh wow, that's funny.

SPEAKER_01

Um I think you said everybody. I was sort of half paying attention. It's um it's okay. But yeah, the Judd Hirsch is kind of like the sort of I would say he's probably the main character if he had to pick one. He's sort of like the center, kind of like What's whose name?

SPEAKER_05

Mary Lou or Jeremy Lowe. What's her first name?

SPEAKER_01

Um? Uh Elaine. Elaine. Yeah. Elaine. She's great. Um, but he's kind of stoic. I love all of his facial expressions. Judd Hirsch. Yeah. Yeah. They just keep cutting to him, just like Do you want me to act? Gem saying crazy stuff. And they're like Locka's bits. With uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Um do we want to get So we picked three ups.

SPEAKER_01

We picked three ups.

SPEAKER_05

You did.

SPEAKER_01

Gem centric. Although the second one, Psychic Gym.

SPEAKER_05

Not so much.

SPEAKER_01

Not so much. I forgot that that's not in it either. Despite the title, and despite like he kind of sets things off, it's not he's not really in it that much. But we'll get there. You want to talk about talk about them in the order we

Taxi: Elegant Iggy Episode Discussion

SPEAKER_01

watch them?

SPEAKER_05

Sure. So the first one was called Elegant Iggy. But my phone kept changing it to Elegant Piggy, so I just left it.

SPEAKER_01

Elegant Piggy.

SPEAKER_05

Where Christopher Lloyd gets tickets. Well, what's his name? Jim. Jim gets tickets to see a virtuoso violin player, violinist.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And he takes Elaine.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_05

And then while they're at the concert.

SPEAKER_01

Oh well, I love this. I love when they're talking about when he's trying to choose.

SPEAKER_05

Decide if Judd Hirsch. Alex Judd Hersh.

SPEAKER_01

Alex, yeah. Alex or Elaine. He's just like, well, this is gonna be tough. On one hand, Elaine's a beautiful woman. Alex is not.

SPEAKER_05

He's like, Oh, it's easier than I thought it was. So then, and then while they're at but like the while they're at the concert, they run into someone that Elaine knows because she apparently runs an art gallery, and they get invited to a party, and then she doesn't want to take Jim because she's embarrassed.

SPEAKER_01

Because it's gonna be like the who's who of high society in New York. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

But my favorite scene in that is when he comes to pick her up for the concert.

SPEAKER_00

For the wrong night.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he's a day early. But she doesn't even like she just lets him heat hands her, he likes brings her flowers, and then he brings her a corsage.

SPEAKER_01

But what's he say for a beautiful woman?

SPEAKER_05

For a beautiful woman. Every time. And then he brings her a box of chocolates.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And he brings her, is it next the bag of lamb chops or navel oranges?

SPEAKER_01

Or navel oranges, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Can't remember which. And then a Yoda doll, like from Star Wars, which I was very pleased to see.

SPEAKER_01

It's pretty great. Must have been very uh I mean, that had been really fresh. Yeah. This was like 81 or 82.

SPEAKER_05

I loved that. I'd love to see that. And so then she was like, Well, why are you so early? He's like, Well, I'll just wait in the hall. And she's like, the concert's tomorrow. I don't know. His delivery was just like, he's not afraid to drag out the joke. He's just like, You look gorgeous.

SPEAKER_01

He's like, I never get tired of hearing that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, she says that to him. He says, I never get tired of hearing that.

SPEAKER_01

Dude.

SPEAKER_05

It was I loved that.

SPEAKER_01

There's there's something, um, there's like a kind of Zucker Brothers humor. Whoever in the writing for Jim, like the you know, airplane kind of that's a naked gun kind of.

SPEAKER_05

It's yes, very well. Like puns and yeah. Uh they had a they were so excited though, at the very beginning, they were playing Scrabble and they had a turntable Scrabble.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I did a little homework there.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, tell me about that.

SPEAKER_01

That was invented in 76.

SPEAKER_05

Wow. I didn't know that was a thing. I thought the one you got me was like a new back in 2003. I think you bought that.

SPEAKER_01

He spells Blorf. And then the locker comes in. What? Blurf? He says it was his nickname. It reminded me of there was a guy I used to work with at an intern we had. His name was Alex, and I always called him Burf Horman.

SPEAKER_05

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

So we're gonna Horman. Or Burf, get over here. Like, why do you call me that?

SPEAKER_05

Were you guys always playing Spinning Scrabble?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Spinning Scrabble.

SPEAKER_01

Um I I Do you wanna do you wanna keep going? Or I I I do have a list of like just random on that episode? Yeah, I this is this is this this could go anywhere. Um, but this is uh Sure, anything's fine.

SPEAKER_05

Just the Just don't move on to the next episode yet.

SPEAKER_01

I won't. But when you first see, you see Danny DeVito pretty early in it in the episode. I said he looks like a he looks like a small, a tiny version of Judd Nelson of uh John Bender from Breakfast Club.

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He looks just like honestly, he really looks well he was pretty young.

SPEAKER_05

I wrote DeVito looks young.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he does look young. He's not Frank Reynolds.

SPEAKER_05

What's his name on the show?

SPEAKER_01

Um Louie.

SPEAKER_05

Louis.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Louis, the taxi garage owner's man.

SPEAKER_01

Louis Sunshine.

SPEAKER_05

Louis Oh, his last name is Sunshine?

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't I don't know what it is. Uh what is his last name?

SPEAKER_05

I don't know. Anyways, go on with the uh Well um I felt pretty darn sad when she told him she didn't want him to come.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_05

That was awful.

SPEAKER_01

He's like, Oh, it would absolutely kill you. What would you say if I asked you? Oh, it passed you and absolutely kill me.

SPEAKER_05

But then she does. But what does she say when she turns back around and ends up inviting him to come with her?

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Oh.

SPEAKER_01

What she is there like a punchline?

SPEAKER_05

No, I just could I missed how she decided to I just couldn't hear what she said.

SPEAKER_01

Uh she said actually she said, I want you to go with me. Or something like that. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_05

Um So then at the party, then they need entertainment. Or first of all, he's like a hit, of course, with this lady.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I know I know what he says.

SPEAKER_05

What?

SPEAKER_01

She says, I want you to go with me. And he says, What will I wear?

SPEAKER_05

He's wearing a tuxedo that he already bought. I love I love Oh, I meant to ask my mom if my grandpa had watched that show.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely ask, definitely ask her. I'm sure. I'm sure if he didn't, that's it's it's his sense of humor right off the show. Yeah. I mean, the another something else that happens in that like sequence is she uh Elaine says to to Louie, she's like, I need your help with something. He's like, What did or I need you to do something for me. What's he say?

SPEAKER_05

Uh um I don't remember that part.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, anything need rubbing?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_01

He's so vile. I just sat there and just wrote quotes down. And now I'm like, oh, I'll know what these mean.

SPEAKER_05

And now you don't. Yeah. Um and then when he uh so he like hits it off well with like the rich people at the the rich lady. And but then she's what'd you think about the comment when he was playing the piano and she was like, he's a veteran. Oh yeah. But he isn't. Um because in that vlog we watched later, then Tony Danzo was talking about being a veteran. No, she was just saying that. It's kind of terrible. I don't think anybody would use that too.

SPEAKER_01

They wanted to have uh sympathy for him. I think she's trying to guard her sympathy.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that seems really No, I think I think that's the way I took it anyway. You're right, you're right, and I'm sure you're right.

SPEAKER_01

This is completely random, it has nothing to do with it, but it reminds me of the the movie Friendship, where the one guy, I can't remember the media's name, but he's just like, we should have never left Afghanistan. It's just like this random comment. I don't know. Um so that there's another good line in there for when when when they're in the elevator, right before she they get invited.

SPEAKER_05

They're facing the back. Oh, she says one of my biggest.

SPEAKER_01

She says it's one of my biggest. He's like, Wow, she could stay to use I guess she could stay to lose a pound or two. I love just that stupid humor cuts me. I love it.

SPEAKER_05

Alright. Jim the psychic.

SPEAKER_01

Well Oh, sorry. What after the veteran line, when he when he finally busts out what is it, like Chopin?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I don't know what it was.

SPEAKER_01

I think that's what it is.

SPEAKER_05

It looks like he's playing it.

SPEAKER_01

It did kind of look like he was playing it.

SPEAKER_05

But do you think he was just very well faking it?

SPEAKER_01

It's correct.

SPEAKER_05

Because he didn't act it didn't actually look like he was playing. Like I don't think he was playing it, but he was doing a heck of a job panomiming it.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah. Yeah, he that's true. It did look, I mean, you would know.

SPEAKER_05

I don't think he was playing it, but I'd like to be proven wrong.

SPEAKER_01

That'd be cool. Prove me wrong. It'd be cool to know. I'd be surprised just like Elaine was. Oh my gosh. Or just like Jim was when he was like, I must have had music lessons. It reminds me of uh Peter Griffin and uh Family Guy. Oh yeah. He's like a drunk savant.

SPEAKER_05

Or when they're at the very then like they cut to the end of the party where he's sitting there singing its like lovely duet with this lady, and he's like, Well, good night. Dismissives are it was great.

SPEAKER_01

That was a great, great episode.

SPEAKER_05

It was a great intro.

SPEAKER_01

Great intro to the trilogy we watched.

Taxi: Jim the Psychic Episode Discussion

SPEAKER_05

It was. Out of order, though.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we watched it in reverse.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, then Jim the Psychic, the Psychic.

SPEAKER_01

Jim the Psychic. I just want to say something like season four, first episode.

SPEAKER_05

Tony Danz's physique.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

He's got a real, as the kids say, yat.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so was that was that the one we said wearing the white pants and you kept talking about his white pants?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, were they at the um No, I think that was more Yeah. Well, did they go yeah, they went to the Mario to the to the restaurant, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That's like their hangout.

SPEAKER_05

So he's wearing pants like I prefer to wear, high-waisted wide-leg pants. Which are very, very in style for women. And look very, very hilarious. I mean he looks great, but they're just like hugging his curves and his he's this incredibly tiny little hunky little thing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he's uh five'9, right?

SPEAKER_05

He's smaller than me. Thanks.

SPEAKER_01

I bet you could wear his pants though.

SPEAKER_05

I don't think so. He has no hips. He does have a big butt though.

SPEAKER_01

I don't really know how that works.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, you don't have any hips either.

SPEAKER_01

I don't?

SPEAKER_05

No. You have a big butt, but your your hip to waist ratio is about the same.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05

If we cut off your butt.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, if we cut my butt off. Don't cut my butt off.

SPEAKER_05

But as far as like an hourglass shape, no.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Anyway, good to know. I wanted to say that. And also, I didn't notice it as much in the first one that we watched, but in Gym the Psychic, everyone's hair began to distract me.

SPEAKER_01

Especially Conaway, right?

SPEAKER_05

Every yes, and everyone has the most feathery cloud-like hair, and it's just like I a wonder that their hair doesn't just float right off their heads. And every time the Conway guy moved, his hair was just like he was constantly tossing it out of his eyes. It was so distracting.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

It was very in style, though.

SPEAKER_01

I kind of wanted to touch it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Not like not in a just like.

SPEAKER_04

Poor Christopher Lloyd's hair.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. He's uh they really they really messed his hair up over the seasons, and then he, I think, also lost it. So there was that. He was what, 40, what did I say it was, 42?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, 43.

SPEAKER_01

He was about my age. Yeah. During that.

SPEAKER_05

So tell us this, tell us the plot of Jim the Psychic.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like you should. Okay. You're the good.

SPEAKER_05

So Jim the Psychic, he comes into work and he tells Judd Hirsch that he's gonna that he had a dream that he's gonna die, and he tells all the details about it, including like you're gonna meet a blonde, she's gonna fall into your lap, someone's gonna mistake you for a woman, you're gonna wear a green shirt and dance the can can.

SPEAKER_01

With a catcher's mask.

SPEAKER_05

With a catcher's mask on. Excuse me, I'm so sorry. Um, and so then everybody starts freaking out because these little things that that Jim said in his dream start to come true, and then they are all worried about him.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm. There's also a little side plot going on with uh Louie and and uh Lacka.

SPEAKER_05

Where is Tony Danza's name Louie?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I'm sorry. Um what's his face? Tony Danza. Yeah, Tony.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, his name's Tony?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Um they were like, this is the perfect name for you. We're gonna keep it.

SPEAKER_01

Locke's not allowed to talk.

SPEAKER_05

Um Locka has to be silent, so he's He's got a bunch of cue cards for everyone else to read.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. I love how he draws. He's just like, hi, hi, Alex.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, and then but I think he's cheating when he records himself.

SPEAKER_01

I was wondering that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, because he talked.

SPEAKER_01

I'm wondering if they maybe. I'm surprised Tony didn't call him on that. Especially given he was trolling him the whole time. But he draws like a like a like a mule's behind.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, horses A S S.

SPEAKER_01

That's what it was. He has the card that says now. That's the only other card. The only card he has for Tony was hi Tony. A picture of a horse's uh behind and now now.

SPEAKER_05

Um I do want to say something about Judd Hirsch that's gonna sound mean.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no.

SPEAKER_05

He looks like a Muppet. Doesn't he?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I guess so.

SPEAKER_05

But he's aged really well. I think he looks best now.

SPEAKER_01

Best now at 90 years old?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he looks great.

SPEAKER_01

He does look good.

SPEAKER_05

And he's his he grew into his face.

SPEAKER_01

And he was uh did I already say he was gooey in Uncut Gyms?

SPEAKER_05

I don't think he did.

SPEAKER_01

The only redeeming character in that whole movie.

SPEAKER_05

And that gets wronged, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Ugh, I don't ever want to watch that again. I hated that movie.

SPEAKER_01

I did. I did not hate it.

SPEAKER_05

Uh but anyway, Judd Hirsch. He's a great actor.

SPEAKER_01

He is. Yeah. Um that scene.

SPEAKER_05

So then at the end, when all the final like prophecies of Jim's dream are coming true, and Danny DeVito's goes to his apartment.

SPEAKER_01

Danny DeVito was on fire in that episode.

SPEAKER_05

He had to burn a lot of calories. They were both sweating. Like you could see them, like actually sweating.

SPEAKER_01

He was going insane. Like when he picks up the phone and he gets mistaken as a for a woman. Like, do I sound like I'm married to you? And then Devito's like.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And he's just like running around the room like just having a panic attack.

SPEAKER_05

Is it just the um the time?

SPEAKER_01

The physical comedy in that's great.

SPEAKER_05

Is it just the time or or were things from that era just it feels very play-like?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Well, they're in front of a live studio audience, too. Which you don't see a whole lot of in the case.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, that's true.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't know that, but can you that would have been can you imagine to be like in the crowd where they're filming one of those like classics?

SPEAKER_05

You would be cracking up because isn't it funny when you go to like a comedy show? Oh yeah. They're always funny when you watch them on Netflix, but they're 20 times funnier in real life. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

There's something to that. Yeah, that's um excuse me. Uh yeah, I just wrote, I just oh yeah. When Louie's on the chain, he's hanging on the chain. He's hanging on that chain, like the door lock chain.

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

When they unlock the door at 7 o'clock to not uh let the uh deaf in.

SPEAKER_05

Grim Reaper.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but it ends up being uh Girl Scout and he screams at her.

SPEAKER_05

And she screams.

SPEAKER_01

But he's hanging on that chain. I swear he's he hung on to that chain for like three minutes. Even after she left. He's still hanging on the chain when he's talking about how sugar cookies are his favorite. No, that was great. That was a good episode.

SPEAKER_05

Not a not actually a lot of gem in it, but uh I will say I wrote on this that a lot of the show, you're just thinking like when you watch old stuff, that it's like seems super dated and stuff, but this does not feel very dated to me. Like the of course, like what they're wearing and stuff, but like their jokes feel incredibly relevant stuff. So like as I was thinking that and writing it down, then they cut to the scene where they're all drinking beer, but the one woman is drinking water, and I was like, well, maybe not.

SPEAKER_01

I can't remember if she's like sober.

SPEAKER_05

Well, she drinks beer in the next episode, though.

SPEAKER_01

So I did catch that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that was a good one. All right.

SPEAKER_01

Do you want to move on to uh Space

Taxi: Reverend Jim Space Odyssey Episode Discussion

SPEAKER_01

Odyssey?

SPEAKER_05

Sure. So in that one, I'm presuming they did there was an episode where he married that we that we didn't see. Okay, but they he wasn't he was just like.

SPEAKER_01

He was in at least one other episode, if not two other episodes.

SPEAKER_05

So he was just head guest appeared in in those?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so do you think they just really liked him and decided to bring him on?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't know the full story, but I'd like to So this episode is basically the onboarding of Jim to There was another character in the first season, um, but they just like throw it through it out, kind of like in uh Parks and Wreck with the the City Planner guy.

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah, I forgot about that guy. Yeah, I don't know. He's kind of sticking in the mud guy, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I don't remember this guy's name. I think uh I don't know. I hope he's doing well.

SPEAKER_05

Anyway, so this uh the last one we watched was called Reverend Jim Space Odyssey, is that right? Reverend Jim Space Odyssey, which is a hilarious name for that episode.

SPEAKER_01

Um You know Jim's like wealthy, like his father's like super rich.

SPEAKER_05

No.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Do you find that out?

SPEAKER_01

His name's not even his last name isn't even Ignowski. It's like Igwitalski. It's like like he just made it up because it's he said it was the backwards version of like something.

SPEAKER_05

Something it's not the backwards version of So he must have been on a previous episode where he married Lotka.

SPEAKER_01

Lotka and uh and the woman. The lady from Star Trek. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And so then anyway, so he comes in while they're at the what's the name of the restaurant? Mario's. They're getting they're just drinking beer, which it looks so delicious. But they don't eat anything in there. I want him that I want to see their eating. Beers. They offer to buy him a beer or to have him sit with them. Anyway, my question, so then they decide that they're gonna help him like he get his life straightened out, and they think it's a good idea for this man to drive a cab.

SPEAKER_01

Well, they have a whole bit about that. Where they're like, well, he doesn't have any skills, he doesn't have a big thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Well, he should be a cab driver. But then like then they take him to do the driving test, and that literally was oh, oh, they openly they're openly drugging people. He drugs Louie.

SPEAKER_01

Qua loots. I'm pretty sure it was Quaulutes. They sing Moonlight Bay. And that was like a huge scene. It's a very long scene. Where they're all like you wouldn't see that in a show anymore.

SPEAKER_05

No way.

SPEAKER_01

The drugging first of all, no way. Just casual drug use.

SPEAKER_05

And they're like, What'd you put in there? And he was like, Could have been a tricklet, could have been a tranquilizer. And they're all like, okay. And then they just let him drink it. But then they'll twice.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And then it's like a five-minute musical scene. Like they're just like, they're all singing together in harmony, and then it's kind of like, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And they'd be like, put him off to sleep, and then they get him to because he doesn't want to hire Jim. Louie doesn't. And then they get him to agree to hire him. So then the next scene is them at the DMV, I guess, right? He doesn't even have a license.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I was gonna I wanted to back up back up a little bit and just just give a quick shout out to um Locka's role in this one, where he gets lost in Harlem and he ends up going to a bar. And he's just like talking jive the whole rest of the Well, and the the scene where Danny DeVito's singing to him. And the stuff the stuff that he says that has nothing to do with with what he says from the uh words he picked up in Harlem, but where he's talking to Jim, and Jim's like, I have no idea what the uh no, I don't remember a wedding or whatever. And then and then Locke's like, and he's like, Oh yeah. I mean, those kind of jokes just freaking kill me. They're so they're so predictable.

SPEAKER_05

I rarely laugh out loud even when I think something's funny, and I did laugh out loud a few different times. The driving the driving test, which I know you keep trying to talk about, well was but but right before that I said Danny DeVito singing his singing or talking to Lekka about fixing the taxi and that like that whole back and forth where he's like kind of talking to him really sweetly because he's on drugs. Oh yeah. There's something about that that was killing me too.

SPEAKER_01

DeVito's great. I mean he's excellent.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, so then they take Jim to the DMV. They all go with him. He doesn't even have a driver's license.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I guess not.

unknown

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05

Sounds like there's a lot standing in the way of him becoming a cab driver, but it's just TV, I guess. Suspends.

SPEAKER_01

He says he did a lot of drugs. Yeah. She's like, or she's like, he's like, you wouldn't guess how many drugs I did. She's like, uh a lot. He's like, right on the nose. I love the uh they also in that season they also had the freezing screen. Like at the end of the scene, freezes. And then it transitions. Like, I missed that. That's that's cool. I think they got rid of them later, later ones. But anyways, yeah, so they're at the uh he's taking the test, filling out the forms.

SPEAKER_05

Helping him remembering his name and his height, and then he's like 5'9, and they're like, Yeah, that sounds great. And then he says, earth weight, your earth weight.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, I think they want John Hirsch is like, or Alex is like, I think they're looking for earth weight.

SPEAKER_05

He slams his hands on the counter and he's like, earthweight.

SPEAKER_01

He's just like so bad and exasperated that they that he that that was just the application form.

SPEAKER_05

I thought it was the test. So then when he takes the test and he keeps saying, What's a yellow light mean? Oh my god. And he keeps saying slow down. And I mean they did it like six times.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That's I mean, honestly, that's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_05

I said I love the commitment to the yellow light gag.

SPEAKER_01

It that it was just the perfect amount. I think, honestly, I think it was four times.

SPEAKER_05

Four, but still, I thought two times was all they were gonna do.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I did too, which was hilarious. Like, okay, the first time I was like, ha ha ha, yeah, that's pretty funny. Second time you're like, okay. And then what but a fourth time I mean, I was I was crying, which that's not really saying much. I cry laughing a lot, but but I was laughing out loud. You were too, and that's what really got my attention because and I had seen I've seen that episode like three times. So like I knew it was coming.

SPEAKER_05

What was funny to me was that he just kept and he was like, Wha Cause he would say, What does the yellow light mean? And then the guy would answer, slow down. So then, of course, he's interpreting that to mean ask your question slower. So then he says it, what does the yellow light mean slower? And he does that three more times. And by the time like they just they end the show and he's still screaming. What yeah, I would fully I would watch more of those. I could see myself totally falling in love with some of those characters.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there's there's some great there are some really, really good other episodes. Um, like I said, Jim. Jim's probably my favorite, but there's there's awesome, awesome stuff in there. And you know, I can't get enough Bob James. There were uh they won. I did have notes. I just put them at the bottom. I was looking at the top. Whoops. Whoops. Whoopsie dough. Won a bunch of Emmys. It won uh 18 Emmys.

SPEAKER_05

Wow, that's a handful of Emmys.

SPEAKER_01

One uh outstanding comedy series for three consecutive years.

SPEAKER_05

Wow.

SPEAKER_01

Between 79 and 81.

SPEAKER_05

Wonder what its competition was. Look forward to finding that out next year.

SPEAKER_01

Next year. Lloyd won two Emmys for his role as Jim, so I guess uh I'm not the only one who likes them. That's weird. Um is there anything else you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_05

No. Thank you for introducing that to my life.

SPEAKER_01

Happy to. Happy to be able to do it. And we gotta watch Groundhog Day too. I'm kind of excited about that now.

SPEAKER_05

Can we call it Grindhog Day?

SPEAKER_01

You're gonna you're gonna say you don't like it. It's gonna break my heart.

SPEAKER_05

What if I promise not to say that?

SPEAKER_01

I want to know if you don't. It's good TV.

SPEAKER_05

I'm sure I'm gonna think it's fine. You know what else I haven't seen? That I used to get confused.

SPEAKER_01

Hmm.

SPEAKER_05

Ferrisbuelers Day Off.

SPEAKER_01

You haven't seen Ferris Buller's Day Off? No. Really?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We gotta watch it. It's not. Okay. It'd be a cool time loop movie, but no, it's not. Um, it's good. We should watch it.

SPEAKER_05

It's a Chicago base or dinosaurs in it, we didn't watch it.

SPEAKER_01

That was a rule.

SPEAKER_05

Where well what where would you put Indiana Jones? Um We watched a lot of that too.

SPEAKER_01

I would put that it depends on the on the Indiana Jones.

SPEAKER_05

Well, if you couldn't buy it a fast food restaurant. We didn't watch it. I think we got that one from McDonald's.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um, no, Indiana Jones, action adventure.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's oh I mean, George Lucas.

SPEAKER_05

All right, yeah, that's true. Okay. All right, well, let's switch gears.

Rancid & And Out Come the Wolves Discussion

SPEAKER_01

Okay, we're talking about uh Rancid.

SPEAKER_05

We are. Tell me about Rancid, because I know just about nothing about that band.

SPEAKER_01

Honestly, I don't I I never I was never a big Rancid fan. I what I mean to say is they have like I think they have like ten albums.

SPEAKER_05

What kind of music are they? Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um definitely punk. Punk, you could say maybe some third wave ska. Operation Ivy was the band that Tim Armstrong is the is a singer and he plays rhythm guitar and the songwriter of most of the songs. Um Matt Freeman was a bass player. Those two dudes came from Operation Ivy. Okay. They were in that band together in the late 80s. Um they started Rancid. They started Rancid and I think and Outcome the Wolves was what? Gosh, it was like their third or fourth album. It came out in 95. And uh I think Rancid maybe started in 91, I think. And I don't know why, but I just listened to the crap out of this album. I don't even know how I got it. I probably bought it in like a used bin or something. And um I I liked so Did you buy a lot of stuff from used bins? I bought a lot of used CDs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Whenever people like trade them in and stuff.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you go open it up, make sure they don't have scratches on them, and buy them for like dollars. Next, you know, yeah, exactly. It's like two dollars or something. Like I think I I think I got regulate G Funk era for like two dollars.

SPEAKER_05

So when they got snapped, it wasn't a big cost.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was that big. You were not a lot of money.

SPEAKER_05

Um Love you, Terry.

SPEAKER_01

I love you. Uh so no, but I knew I did know Rancid. I think I got the album because I liked that Roots Radical, Time Bomb was on there, um, Ruby Soho. You would probably know at least a couple of those songs. You probably actually know all of them because I'm sure I've played them at the time.

SPEAKER_05

We've listened to them like on road trips and stuff, yeah. That's that's been the only time I've ever listened to Rancid, though.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and honestly, I I've listened to And Out Come the Wolves, I don't know, a million times. I've never listened to another Rancid album. Did you say In and Out Come the Wolves? And In and Out Come the Wolves. And Out Come the Wolves is the uh is the name of the album.

SPEAKER_05

That's what happens on a rainy day if you have a dog. In and out come the wolves.

SPEAKER_01

That's a deep cut, right?

SPEAKER_02

That's good.

SPEAKER_01

Um but I I um I I love I like I like I'm not a big I'm not a big punk guy. I mean, I like some punk here and there. I hated all the kind of the I was crapping on Blink 182 the other day or a few episodes ago. Like no outright disrespect. I'm not saying they suck or anything, but that whole that like early 90s. Early 2000s punk kind of like alien ant farm that kind of I hated that stuff.

SPEAKER_05

Uh I wasn't Blink 182 out in the late 90s.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they were out in the late 90s. I have a memory of driving to uh they're not all it's not that I hate 'em, hate 'em, but I mean, it seemed like everybody I knew loved them. So they sing all the stuff. Uh yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, but anyways, Rancid is a bit more. I'm not going to pretend to be a punk expert, but a little harder. It's a kind of well, sort of, but not really. Honestly, they're very they're they're super. Yeah, they are definitely harder than Blink 182, but they got a lot of melody to them. They got a lot, like Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Well, after I listened to the song that we did, I was like, I think I might like this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and and Matt. Like more of it. The bass player is I adore him. He he's phen phenomenal. I mean, like, there's something about the way he plays. It's Matt Freeman. I'm almost positive it's Matt Freeman. He um He plays it's he doesn't play, there's nothing against playing, you know, root notes on a bass or whatever. But he plays like it's almost he's playing like a counter melody to every song. Like he's always doing something really interesting.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he's a yeah. Well, I mean, just based on how long it took me to figure that out on the piano and play it and make sure I didn't screw it up.

SPEAKER_01

And it was a really it was an interesting bass line. There was nothing, there was nothing just kind of in the box about it. It was uh what are you uh what are you looking up right now?

SPEAKER_05

Nothing.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you text him?

SPEAKER_05

I'm taking notes. I told you I'd be taking instant notes.

SPEAKER_01

He's got a uh he's got a a a bass solo on um what is his first song on there? Maxwell Murder? Murder for hire, or what I can't remember the name of the song, Maxwell something. But he's he plays a bass solo, and then it's bass solos can be hit or miss for me. Yeah, this is a sick one.

SPEAKER_05

Did you ever talk to um our our buddy Seth about it?

SPEAKER_01

Uh I think we've talked about Ransa before. Yeah, I think he's a I think he's a fan.

SPEAKER_05

How could he not be?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he he got a ladybug on your arm. Oh, look at that. Well, hey buddy. This is a gentle flick, folks. You didn't see me kill anything. It's gentle.

SPEAKER_05

Audience won't like it. That's what they're here for. So ladybug murder.

SPEAKER_01

Um but old friend is probably my favorite song on that album.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And I figured In and Out Go the Wolves. In and Out Go the Wolves, yeah. And I figured we could do it. Because it's relatively simple.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we did. We did do it.

SPEAKER_01

We did fine. We did. No, but what I mean is like I could cover it, okay. We could have done time bomb or something. But uh, yeah, I like I like uh Tim Armstrong had Hellcat Records records, which they did uh Hepcat stuff. Wow. So this Tim Armstrong's super prolific. Like he's he's been in everything for a long time. No, I mean they have some reggae roots. They're they they're technically considered third wave ska. Ska. But they're very first wave sound. They they yeah, they're Hapcat, if I haven't mentioned it before, is one of my favorite bands of all time. Um we'll talk about that. We'll we'll do a Hebcat song.

SPEAKER_05

You should.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Are we am I cool enough?

SPEAKER_01

Am I?

SPEAKER_05

You're way cooler than me.

SPEAKER_01

That's not true.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_01

No, I just feel a different beat than you do.

SPEAKER_05

Well cool beat.

SPEAKER_01

You're just a little um I don't know, regulated West Jamaican than me. Slightly.

SPEAKER_05

Um so I would like I don't can you tell me what that song's about?

Old Friend Song Structure & Chord Progression

SPEAKER_01

Old Friend?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Because I I was super duper into the bass line and did not pay one single bit of attention to the lyrics for the verses.

SPEAKER_01

I don't uh I don't really know exactly what it's about. It's I mean, first of all, they talk about Cleveland a lot. You know, it's uh kind of funny. Um I like the line Cleveland, I should have stayed inside. Which if you're from there, uh you may take offense.

SPEAKER_05

Um Or if you have to go there every other year for holiday and it always snows eight inches.

SPEAKER_01

Which is nothing for Cleveland.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01

Um I think it's about loneliness.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's just being lonely on the road and uh what for about the first ten years of me listening to that album, which I got in high school, I used to think it was this is how little I paid attention to lyrics. I thought it was good morning, honey.

SPEAKER_03

Good morning, honey. You like an old friend?

SPEAKER_01

So clearly I wasn't listening. Um but no, it's I think it's just about loneliness on the road and and just you know, making making friends and leaving them and regrets and being poor and and but still making do and keep moving on and all that all that. I mean it's kind of like a I was gonna talk about turn the page a little bit as a potential B side. It's got a little bit of that feel to it.

SPEAKER_05

I don't like it when you give away those before it's time.

SPEAKER_01

It's not the one I'm choosing though, so I can.

SPEAKER_05

We always have to weed through all of Rob's non-choices before he gives us his choices.

SPEAKER_01

We have categories on this show that we like to showcase. We're not quite there yet, though.

SPEAKER_05

I have a question for you about the recording process that we just sloughed through.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm. Um A lot of that though was us figuring out we only had what three takes?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. A lot of it was just rehearsing and then and then doing it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we were just trying to figure out what we wanted to do.

SPEAKER_05

Do you like this? Playing music? Oh recording it still? Because I know that was like a thing that when we first set out to do this.

SPEAKER_01

It was kind of a um Yeah, so like it let me let me the short answer is absolutely. Uh it's very fulfilling. Perfect. I'm getting a lot out of it. I get a lot out of it in a million different ways. Um I could elaborate if you'd like. But it is it's it's hard. Like the whole thing is really hard.

SPEAKER_05

Like, do you ever just want to be like, why we should just nah, we don't need a song this week.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I do. But I'm always no, that's the one like that's the one thing about this show that actually has consistency. And it's honestly the thing I like the most the most. I like having songs. I like like when we did Girl is mine and I screwed up the way it recorded, so we had to redo it, I was just thinking, oh my gosh, it took me forever to learn that. But then we sat down and just banged it out after a few weeks of never playing it. I was like, that's cool, that's what I want. I want to have songs that I can play. Number one, learning the song structure. Like, I've been I've been getting better at like when solo or when doing improv stuff at working chords into my into my uh I don't know. Your skill sets are improving. Yeah, my skill sets are improving, my rhythm's getting better, my ear is way better. How I give instructions and receive them is getting better, even though you may have a slight hesitation with agreeing with that.

SPEAKER_05

I would never disagree with that.

SPEAKER_01

At the very least, I've I've recognized that that is a skill that is worth acquiring, and I'm working on it. Um as far as the editing and the production and all that is just Yeah, you're yeah, I have no idea about any of that.

SPEAKER_05

Uh nor do I want to.

SPEAKER_01

Just finding, you know, the substitutions for like, okay, well, this has a obviously the lack of drums is a poses an interesting when when we when I first when I first had the idea, hey, let's do a podcast where at the end of every one we do a cover of a song. My thought was you're gonna sing and play acoustic to country songs. I'm just gonna jam and make solos and fillers on them. We did that once, I think. And then ever since we've just been doing full productions of covers, which has been great. Like honestly, this is yes, I do very much enjoy it. It it just is, it's it's really stressful because we have six million other things going on. If this was our job, yeah, I would love to.

SPEAKER_05

We could never have done this at any other point in our marriage.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no, no. Because of children. Early on.

SPEAKER_05

No, I don't think we could. We weren't the people we are.

SPEAKER_01

I thought I was busy when I couldn't watch six episodes of Lost in a Row.

SPEAKER_05

Or like the one day the when I discovered Lost and I watched two by myself, and then you came home and I was like, oh, we gotta watch this together, and then I rewatched those two with you, and then we watched like four more.

SPEAKER_01

Was Caroline around for that?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, she was a baby.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, she was uh that was what we that's when she'd just sit on your lap.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we could just watch stuff while she yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Occasionally you have to stop and wipe the poop off of your whatever she just exploded on.

SPEAKER_05

Well, thanks for thanks for answering those questions for me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, good question. Um what do you think about so this let me just rip through this real quick. Okay. Old Friend was uh released on out and out come the wolves in 1995, uh written by Tim Armstrong, Lars Fredericson, and Matt Freeman. Lars is the I think he plays the that guitar solo on it. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Um I feel like that would have to be the person that plays the one with the guitar solo. His name is Lars.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, most one of the most famous Lars is a drummer.

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Wow.

SPEAKER_01

Um produced by Jerry Finn, Peak Chart 45 on Billboard 200. I didn't realize it was even on the billboard. I thought it was kind of a deeper cut, but so it got gold status for that. Uh and you got Brett Reed on the drums. I should give give him some uh some love. And Blast Hem was the B side, the official B side for this.

SPEAKER_05

I don't know that.

SPEAKER_01

Um Do you want to talk about covers? Sure, yeah. I do you want to talk about the structure of the song before we get into covers? Tell me about the structure of the song.

SPEAKER_05

Well, it has the intro and the interlude or in the minor. You start in the two. Oh yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. So that's a little different. Yeah. To start in the minor two. What what is what are the chords?

SPEAKER_01

It's uh here.

SPEAKER_05

It's B minor. Then what?

SPEAKER_01

For the intro?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. It's minor.

SPEAKER_00

Um uh D, right? D. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

What's that? Just goes back and forth between B minor and D?

SPEAKER_00

And then go and then A.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. Yeah. So that is different. That's that is a more unique way to start a song. It's still all within the key of A, but then they typically you would start like the in a yeah, in the A.

SPEAKER_01

The uh, well, so when they go into the the So the chorus. The chorus is first, and the verses, and they're all the same chord progression. They're just um what would you say, half time not half time, but um so the chorus is chorus four beats, and uh and then yes, there's two on the other ones.

SPEAKER_05

And then the verses da da da da yeah boom, boom, boom.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So that chord progression, which you could tell me what that is, what's a one what's E to the A? Five five two F sharp minor.

SPEAKER_05

Four and then five six four.

SPEAKER_01

That is uh that is like I know you know this, an incredibly common chord progression.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because so that you remember when I said I wanted to do a mashup of No Woman, no cry, bell bottom blues.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, and are they all three in the same?

SPEAKER_01

And uh that Justin Bieber song.

SPEAKER_05

You should go love yourself. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Those are all those all basically use that. Do some variation to this. Uh and then you have Let It Be. Um, you have uh I'm yours, Jason Morales. Oh yeah. Uh there's I mean it's a really great song. It is a good song. There's there there's so many songs that I think I actually have a list somewhere, but I'm not gonna pause the show to make you make you look at them. Um I think there's a might be a well pokerface does that too. A Lady Gaga.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Old Crow Medicine Show, John Denver.

SPEAKER_05

Is that tra uh Wagon Wheel?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, Wagon Wheel. Mm-hmm. Um there's another one which I oh Dire Straits, Walk on Life. That that does that.

SPEAKER_05

Uh I don't know that song.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_05

Really?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Oh my gosh. Walk on Life.

SPEAKER_05

Were you listening to it in the car the other day? Yeah, Dire Straits on it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we were listening to Dire Straits, the self-title album. No, that was so that's the one that had Sultan's Sultan's a swing on it. But it's a da da da. Oh, I'm playing it in the wrong key. Whoops. I thought that's not weird. But it's a da da. Anyways.

SPEAKER_05

Anchored Michaelson's dad's gonna come for us.

SPEAKER_01

He's coming for us hard. No, I'm not doing them well enough to be uh busted for copyright. Um but sick chord progression. I love this chord progression. It's uh feels good. I love it almost as much as the 50s chord progression that I keep screwing up in our theme songs.

SPEAKER_05

You seem to love so much you can't get it right. All right, cover, cover me.

Old Friend Covers Discussion

SPEAKER_01

So covers, did you listen to any covers of the song? I know you didn't.

SPEAKER_05

I didn't know so. If I need to do that, you need to tell me. How about we just decide who we want to hear cover it? Do you have an unknown award?

SPEAKER_01

I don't really have an unknown award because everybody had over 50,000 views, and that's kind of my cutoff for unknowns.

SPEAKER_05

Wow. Um So we're we're winning our own unknown awards. We we have a new subscriber. We have 19 now.

SPEAKER_01

I know, I saw that. Thank you, new subscriber. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_05

It took us two weeks to get that extra guy.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Uncle Dan was a little mad that we that we called him token token Uncle.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I explained it to him that it meant J R R Token, Lord of the Radio. Yeah, token.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

But he he was like, oh, oh, yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. You explained it? Yeah. Oh good, thank goodness.

SPEAKER_05

I can show you text message evidence.

SPEAKER_01

Um we got that token mentioned out of the way. Big D, uh Big D and the kids Big D and the Kids Table? Or the children's Big D and the Kids Table, I think was the name the name of one cover I listened to.

SPEAKER_05

That sounds like someone related to that list that you read at the beginning. That's a cool Keith. Pee-Pee underpants or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Underwear piss it, Nickel Keith? Underwear piss.

SPEAKER_05

What'd you say?

SPEAKER_01

Cool Keith.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but what was the one?

SPEAKER_01

Dr. Arthur. No. No. Nope. You said it. It's a if it's a lot, if we're allowed to say it in our house in front of our kids, we're allowed to say it on the air.

SPEAKER_05

Our kids say it more than we do. I should never have said that either.

SPEAKER_01

Uh that was kind of cool. So all the covers I listened to were very much in the style of Rancid. Which is good and bad. I was kind of hoping there'd be some. Honestly, we were probably the furthest removed from the covers I listened to. And I listened to one, two, three, four, five, six different versions. Tim Ty Tim Time Bomb and Friends. Um had a melodica on it. It was an acoustic guitar and a melodica. But it was very punk in the vocals. Um Jen Fort Fiorentino, she did an acoustic guitar. Eh, it was fine. Um, she's good.

SPEAKER_05

She's why mention her then?

SPEAKER_01

Because I I watched it. Oh. It just it didn't, it wouldn't, it didn't blow me away. Okay. If I was okay, if I was in a like a bar and she was on stage and she busted out the song, I would have like talked to her afterward. I'd be like, Hey, great too.

SPEAKER_05

I have a wife.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not supposed to be talking to you. My wife would kill us both. You especially slowly. But great. I love that screen. Great cover. That's just um no, it was fine. She she did fine. It was just nothing. I thought she was maybe do something a little different. Matt Freeman, I watched just him playing the bass on it. Um it was great. Like you could really, you know, it's way louder. Kind of similar to the guy who did the drums on Little Talks who I mentioned.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um Warriors. Not Warriors, but Warriors, like I'm Worried.

SPEAKER_05

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, they did it.

SPEAKER_05

Not like I'm Worr.

SPEAKER_01

There's a bunch of not worried. No, no. Gosh, no. It was pretty much a straight cover. It was uh female singers, but they're all singing kind of punky. And they're all everybody does the same solo and the which it's fine. It's cool, but it's not. I I just really wanted to hear something different. Brass Action was the closest to different. They did uh they had a lot of horns, and so the horns did all like the solo stuff and the the riffs and everything, but it was still punk vocals. Again, it's a punk song, so kind of expected that, but I wanted to hear I wanted to hear something a little bit different. But um uh yeah. What what do you got for uh you want to go into B sides?

SPEAKER_05

You didn't A, you didn't say who you wanted to hear cover it, and B, you didn't ask me who I wanted to hear cover it.

SPEAKER_01

That's because we haven't gotten there yet. I'm just talking about who actually covered it. Oh, the part where I always say, Hey, did you listen to any other covers? Did you listen to anybody cover this? And you for the last six episodes you said, I didn't know I was supposed to be doing that.

SPEAKER_05

Hey, sweet birthday, baby.

SPEAKER_01

If I'm supposed to do that, you're supposed to tell me I'm supposed to do that.

SPEAKER_05

Alright. B-sides.

Liner Notes: B-Sides, Dream Covers & Soundtrack Picks

SPEAKER_01

We'll get to the cover. We have dream covers. We have covers that. Explain the categories.

SPEAKER_05

We have who we would love to hear cover it, who we think would be cool cover, we have who we think would what a B-side that we think would be good on it. And we have a soundtrack.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

That we think it would be good with. We do.

SPEAKER_01

Do we need to have another?

SPEAKER_05

No, we don't need more things.

SPEAKER_01

I think we do.

SPEAKER_05

Well, we I have spoken. We do not have to.

SPEAKER_01

If you think we need more things, uh write in it. Audience won't like it. Not the audience won't like it.

SPEAKER_05

But if you want to just DM us at the audience won't like it on Instagram, go for it.

SPEAKER_01

Or if you want to like it, subscribe on our YouTube channel, leave a comment. It's great as well.

SPEAKER_05

Does Google treat the word the like it treats like periods and stuff? Um So if somebody put the audience won't like it, we'll still get it.

SPEAKER_01

My not for us. Because we're we're so we're so hidden on the internet at this point. It doesn't care about us. You gotta pretty much get it verbatim or put quotes around it, probably even.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

B-side. Who do you want? What's your B-side?

SPEAKER_01

My B side uh is so I went through a few. We've talked about turn the page already.

SPEAKER_05

Right. Bob Seeker.

SPEAKER_01

I kind of thought about I Ain't Mad At You by Tupac.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, nothing but love for you?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, do your thing, boy. I thought about that just because it he talks about like there's different stages of the lyrics where he's talking about you know, people he hooked up with and things have changed and they've gone back, but he still has love. And I'm I'm paraphrasing quite a bit, but that's sort of the gist of I Ain't Mad at You. Okay. So I thought about that first. Turn the page, I already talked about that, Bob Seeger. Um, I thought the Cleveland tourism video, you know that you know that one? The it's like a viral Yeah, it was back probably 15 years ago where Welcome. Here's a train taking the jobs from Cleveland. It's like this is Cleveland, he invented Cleveland. I John was like, Yeah, that really makes Cleveland look bad. Like, yeah. Well, you know.

SPEAKER_05

Cleveland, come on, Cleveland.

SPEAKER_01

But my B-side is Life by the Drop by Steve A Ray Vaughn.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um, have you heard that song?

SPEAKER_05

I don't have any idea. Does it have words?

SPEAKER_01

I'm not I'm not laughing because you haven't heard it. I'm laughing because you just you just couldn't, you just can't be bothered to even I don't think I have. You remember my choice.

SPEAKER_05

What's the one that he has where it sings very well?

SPEAKER_01

The very first words are hello there, my old friend. It's also in pretty much the exact same chord progression chord progression of this song. It's about a lot of people. I mean, I've heard two different versions of of of explanations of what it's about, but his struggle with alcoholism. It was on right right after he got sober, it was on that album, which was Sky is Crying. Yeah, I think it's on Sky is Crying. Cool. Great song, really good song. I could uh we may do it at some point. It's probably the only Stevie Ravon song I can play.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I chose the story by Brandy Carlisle. I do I know that all of these lines across my face tell you the story of what's Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

That's how it fit.

SPEAKER_01

Nice. Good deal.

SPEAKER_05

I don't have any additional things to say about it. Nothing else to say.

SPEAKER_01

You don't you don't have to do that?

SPEAKER_05

No, I mean we're very much over our time.

SPEAKER_01

I would love to know what you didn't choose.

SPEAKER_05

Well, we're over our time, but we had to No, it was like less than ten minutes.

SPEAKER_01

It was a long less than ten minutes. No, it wasn't like that. It was like less than ten minutes, like almost 20 less than 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_05

Alright, um Remember how my soul starts to feel.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, sorry, soul. Should we do the song in the beginning? Or should we always end with this?

SPEAKER_05

I don't know. We should talk about that later, though. I do know that.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Dream cover. You got one?

SPEAKER_05

So I was gonna choose Goldfinger. Oh, yeah. But it seems a little on the nose.

SPEAKER_01

It's fine.

SPEAKER_05

So the other one I kind of wanted to do, and this is kind of silly, but I thought that the Cherry Pop and Dottie's swing band would be great. Well, with the swing cover.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, with the brass action. Yeah. I mean, I like the horns on the song. I mean, s punk and ska go so and swing. No, I mean.

SPEAKER_05

I feel like something like that.

SPEAKER_01

Guess yes.

SPEAKER_05

That part where it slows way back or or drops way out. It's talking about America.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

The pauses I was. I feel like that would be a great place to look at that. I don't know why. You sounded fine. So that's mine. What's yours?

SPEAKER_01

It's because I don't know the words, and I'm sitting there and I'm I got I'm fretting up. I'm fretting up on the ninth fret. You know that played that A-shape up there. And uh Where? Down here. Um I'm fretting and I'm I don't know the word. One thing I'm learning is it really helps to know the words. Because then you don't have to look at the page, and then you could check your neck out when you're moving around. Like these are things that I've never never thought about once in my life, because I've always just played lead guitar, and anytime I've ever played lead guitar, I'm just making stuff up. So this is completely different. I've never played this way, other than you know, the last 21 episodes.

SPEAKER_04

21 Z.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, I'm starting to run out. I I'm starting to we're not gonna be able to use that as an excuse anymore. Um but uh what were we talking about?

SPEAKER_05

Uh you were just I I said who's your cover, but I already heard who you oh no, I didn't hear who your cover was.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Sublime.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, perfect. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01

Number one, Sublime. Well, first of all, I love Sublime.

SPEAKER_05

Can he can we have did we invite him to our concert?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he's definitely coming. Okay. But did we already invite him? I think we did, yeah. Um they're awesome. Their covers are great, they're always pretty unique. Like they're always like they always capture like the essence of the song, so to speak. But they they do it really well, and it's I mean, they've covered all sorts of stuff, like tons of reggae stuff. They've covered lots of Grateful Dead stuff. Um but they they would kill this song. I would be very interested to see what they did. Um, they'd probably have some fun samples in it, and it it'd be great.

SPEAKER_05

I think that was a great choice. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you, thank you so much. And what's his name? Bud. I think Bud Gah is the bass player. He's pretty solid. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Soundtrack.

SPEAKER_01

Soundtrack.

SPEAKER_05

Hit me with yours first.

SPEAKER_01

My soundtrack, um What did I say? Oh, oh, I know what it was. Yeah. SLC Punk. You ever see that?

SPEAKER_05

No. Oh, um Is that a show or a movie?

SPEAKER_01

It's a movie. Starring Matthew Lillard.

SPEAKER_05

Whoa.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you don't see too many starring Matthew Lillard. Whoa.

SPEAKER_05

Uh it's a real crime against humanity.

SPEAKER_01

Aren't you a Matthew big Matthew Lillard hand? Head? Hands. No, I'm a Millard. Matthew Lillard hand. Hand.

SPEAKER_05

A big one. He probably does have big hands. He's kind of spindly.

SPEAKER_00

I bet he does.

SPEAKER_01

I can't say his name. Yeah. Rusty uh is that the rusty rusty spoon? Do you have a fork?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Rusty spoon.

SPEAKER_01

SLC Punk was a 90-6 or 98. I watched it in high school. I haven't seen it since.

SPEAKER_05

Did you like it?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I remember really liking it. There's a guy named a character named Heroine Bob. Huh. Who didn't do heroin. They called him that because he hated needles. And I don't want to give any spoilers, but I would I would dedicate old friend to heroin Bob.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Also has a great straight edge character, and I don't remember his name, Dave, maybe. He's just like super straight edge. And anyways, it's a cool, it's a cool movie. It was uh it was good. We uh Chris McDonald, uh shooter McGavin's in it.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I love him.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, well, I think this is a great theme song for Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force First of all, any time Carl from Aquaine Hunger Force is the answer, I'm a fan.

SPEAKER_01

But please explain.

SPEAKER_05

Well, because he's like he's he's zero self-awareness. And so I could just see him thinking that he should have like a happier, better life, and just like every morning waking up and being like, oh I just interesting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I I can I whenever I hear Carl, I I think of like a like a hair band. Um they say I saw. He's like, uh I can't remember the name of the band. He's like, Oh yeah, I saw him in '83 at the uh Philadelphia. They were awesome.

SPEAKER_05

I'm not saying that it's a song he would like.

SPEAKER_01

I gotcha. But I think about him.

SPEAKER_05

The song is like if he had any level of of depth, nice. That's about where it would stop.

SPEAKER_01

I want I bet would uh do you think people would start writing it if we gave Carl as the answer for like the next one?

SPEAKER_05

Let's do it until we get a quick until we get a comment, please or a like that I'm not the one who liked it. I'm usually the only one who likes our videos. Awesome. Well, that was a fun day. It's a good time so much for coming along with us.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you guys, and thank you.

SPEAKER_05

We're just I just have a little bit of soul left. I'd like to end before we completely crush it all.

SPEAKER_01

I need to eat.

SPEAKER_05

Same.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna eat. I uh do I do I think I look pale on camera?

SPEAKER_05

Are you what?

SPEAKER_01

I know my brain doesn't work. Doesn't my skin work?

SPEAKER_05

I know it's your organs are still inside.

SPEAKER_01

I'm kind of looking white lately.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I wasn't eating much, as we said. Alright, well, we'll see you again in a couple days with some more fun, fun stuff and frivolities and maybe some.

SPEAKER_01

Do we know what we're doing next?

SPEAKER_05

No. It's all me.

SPEAKER_01

That's you, baby.

SPEAKER_05

The music lady. I'm wondering if we're gonna be close to Valentine's Day. I think I have a song in mind.

SPEAKER_00

Oh. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

I didn't choose old friend by Rancid. But I would have if I had heard my before. All right.

SPEAKER_01

All right. Well, uh, we love you guys and we hope you have a perfect day.

unknown

Bye.

SPEAKER_05

Peace out.