Earth, Wind & Fire, Event Horizon & Bill Withers' Use Me | Ep 23

We bounce from peak-period Earth, Wind & Fire to Fallout’s sharp TV adaptation and then dive headlong into Event Horizon’s culty sci‑fi horror before closing with a deep, joyful groove on Bill Withers’ Use Me. Along the way we correct names, hum hooks, and argue about falsetto fatigue, jazz harps, and spaceship décor.

• what our show format is and why we role‑play “strangers in a concert line”
• Russian Doll soundtrack notes including Harry Nilsson and Pink Floyd ties
• subscriber milestone shout and live‑show anecdotes
• clarifications on actors, Shakira’s background, and auditory auras
• quick hits on reading, yin yoga, and cottage‑cheese baking hacks
• Fallout’s tone, canon links, and why the ghoul works
• Event Horizon cast, 90s look, and the chaos dimension theories
• the captain’s log lore, test screenings, and alternate cut rumors
• Use Me songcraft, chord movement, and why the pocket matters
• favorite covers, dream pairings, and a nod to Uncle Dan’s band

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Transcript

Cold Open, Banter, And Setup

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And remember, I'll be taking Instagram notes during. Don't think I'm just texting my friends.

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Okay.

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Texting.

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Whoa.

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Are we going, baby?

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Did that go out too?

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It did.

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So just play it anyway?

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Yeah.

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It's not that I'm not gonna screw it up, right?

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Right.

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Two married friends. In a little room, just a corner of a room. Surrounded by blankies.

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One day after Valentine's Day.

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They got in a car crash. She died in his arms. She kissed her lips.

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Her own lips again.

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Oh no.

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Although kissing your own lips could be considered self-love.

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Can you kiss your own lips?

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No. Should we keep making mouth noises, buddy?

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No.

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You brought it up.

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I think you can kiss your own lips. I think every kiss is technically a kiss on your own lips. Oh, that's why that's why kisses are so nice because they start from from the case.

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What's that song? Kisses Nice twice. I think it could be nice. That's a f it's a quite the Concord song I'm trying to think of.

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Oh, Kiss is not a contract? Yes. But it's very nice. But it's very nice. It's very, very nice.

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Very nice. They're coming back.

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Thank God. Okay. Oh, it didn't squeak. I tried I covered it up with a uh kiss. With a with a kiss last time. A little kissed them myself.

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Good greetings to all who joined us today on our podcast of Epic Proportions, Preportions. Pre-portioned.

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Yes, this is a the audience will like it.

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It is. And I don't like to have to bend down, so I'm gonna be moving my micro too, but I didn't worry about whether or not it made noise.

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You don't need to do that beforehand.

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No. No.

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I practiced in the more fun and action packed to it now.

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It is pre-portioned.

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Pre-portioned.

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Alright, this is the audience won't like it. Brought to you by me, Leslie Shoecraft.

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Me, Rob Shoecraft.

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The married partner of a shoe. Meredith. Mered.

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Married partner. Sounds like some sort of uh Disney character of some kind, like a marid.

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Merida is the name of the person in Brave.

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You know, she's half of uh Natasha Leone's character. And uh That's true.

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And the other half is Andrew Dice Clay.

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The other half is Andrew Dice Clay, and while we're on that topic, why don't I just sneak this in real quick? The word we were looking for last time was uh Oh yeah, I said Matroyka.

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Matroychka or something like that. I was very close. But my pronunciation was probably not great.

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I'm not exactly sure if I said that right. You know what else we forgot to talk about last time?

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Uh no.

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Concerning Russian doll, I really wanted to. I'm just gonna throw it in there.

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Okay.

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The music was great.

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Oh yeah.

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For for real, a roll was since we claim to be a music podcast.

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I was gonna say, did we want to talk about what our podcast is about?

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Do you?

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We'd usually try to. We try to.

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Yeah, we should. We should try.

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Do you want to do it this time? Sure. Go ahead.

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Hey guys, this is Rob Shoecraft. This is Lessa Shukraft or Meredith.

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Mered. Mered.

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And what this podcast is, or YouTube, if you watch it there.

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But you should, because there's lots of fun things that happen on my face that you can't see if you're listening.

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And sometimes we go like this.

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Yeah, you don't know what we're doing right now. Yeah. You're the listener.

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What this is is a uh a very loose um role-playing experience of uh two people standing in line, pr perfect strangers. Valky Bell Top of Most shotgun head because I can't remember the other guy's name. Yeah. Mark something?

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No, who cares?

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Corrections Quarter next week.

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Sure. Uncle Dan, what did you tell Uncle Dan?

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Dang it. We'll talk about it.

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Okay.

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Um and we're standing in line for a concert and we're making small talk. And some of these things are big topics, some are little topics. A lot of them, a lot of them have to do with what you're watching, what you're consuming.

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Yeah. Reading.

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What you're reading, what you're watching, baking, exercising, eating and drinking, tea and bread are come up here quite a bit.

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I don't have either of those on the list this week.

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No?

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Oh not technically.

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And then uh and then and then the concert doors open, and you go in, and and guess what you see? Tell them what you see.

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Well, you might think you're gonna see Bill Withers.

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Is he dead? He's dead. He's dead. Uh he could be in our concert for sure.

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Okay. But you're what but if the trick is that bait and switch is gonna be me and Rob doing a cover of Use Me by Bill Withers.

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Still Bill.

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Still Bill.

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What's the name of the album that was on?

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Oh yeah, I forgot I have to talk about some other stuff too.

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Hmm. That should go well.

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No, I remembered. I just didn't write it down frantically before. Because Rob's always like, uh, I'll be ready to record in four hours. I have to get all my notes together. And I'm like, notes?

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My notes are so obnoxiously long that they're I think they almost hurt me.

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Today?

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Or every always. I always have all the things.

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No one cares though. They don't know what you wrote down.

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They care.

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People they're just here, they're just here for your delightful personality.

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I don't think that's why.

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Why would you be here? To learn some new things about Why I wouldn't listen to this. Liner note. Yes, you would. You love long podcasts.

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I do. I do. I would listen to this because we are talking about all things that I'm interested in. But I may have words. I may have words with us. Okay. If I was listening to this.

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Yeah, I have words with us every week, but I keep getting shut down.

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Oh, no, you don't.

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We started recording at 145 just.

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Oh, that kind of you mean those kinds of words. Snip it. Cut it. Yeah. Put it out. Not like Dave Collier.

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Yeah.

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Little Joey. Joey G.

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He's going to come up sometime soon.

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Yes. Not today, though. You ever listen to a little Alanis Morset?

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Mm-hmm.

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She really whoops a mules behind with a belt. Um, what was I gonna say? Corrections Corner? Do you want to go there? Sure, I want to. I think I was gonna say something else. You know what it was.

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You were talking about the music from Russian doll, and I cut you off to introduce the show.

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Yeah. Oh yeah, we all we would have had to we would have had to bring it up next week.

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Oh, real quick, what are you drinking today?

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Water.

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So am I, but we have different water.

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Oh, I have a water out of a bottle.

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I have water out of a Bora water filter that I heated up in the microwave. In a mason jar.

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I think it cancels the health.

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No, it doesn't.

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Microwave cancels out the carbon stuff.

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Oh, I mean I hit it, I heated it in a kettle.

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You sat on it for like eight hours.

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I heated it in a kettle on the stove.

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It's a perfect 98.6. Okay, so. What is that?

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That's our child. I'm gonna text him right now and remind him that we're recording. We didn't make it a public announcement to the family.

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Um hey, let him know that he's on the podcast singing. That will get him to never say another word for the rest of his life.

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That's true. We should get him on the podcast playing. Tell him that tell him that we heard him playing the sacks.

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Oh, upstairs.

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He said, Oh my bad. He's sorry, guys.

Corrections Corner

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What a nice boy.

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Alright, Corrections Corner as well.

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Yeah, I just wanted to mention Gotta Get Up by Harry Nilsson.

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Okay.

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Was the the song that was played over and over the side?

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At the beginning of the bath her bathroom scene.

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Great choice though, for for a repetitive song. Yeah. Like I didn't exactly get sick of it.

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No.

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She did at the end.

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Yeah, everyone. I mean, I got sick of it on her behalf.

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You know what the name of that album was? What? Nilsson Schmilson.

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How do you spell that?

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Nilsen Schmilson. S a S S H M I L S S O N, I think. Okay. Was the Schmilzen part. That had um had a great uh bad finger tune on it. Uh sad story there. We'll talk about it some other time. Um I I think that was on that album anyway. And then also Shine On You Crazy Diamond. What was the song? Which was Pink Floyd. Yeah, yeah. The last episode, she's walking down the street, and they pretty much play like all of Gilmore solo. They pretty that sounds like 15 minutes long.

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They played the whole thing.

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I don't know if it's 15, but it's on uh I think it's on Wish You Were Here. Have you you did you know that song before you I'd heard it, yes.

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But I wouldn't have never known. Or as I said, who is this?

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Hey, you know who does a great cover of that song?

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Who? Bell Weathers?

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No, that'd be cool. Wow, what would that sound like? I don't know, but who? Um Smokestack Lightning.

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Oh yeah.

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I was sitting next we're Uncle Dan's band, for those of the 25 subscribers, thank you very much. You know who you are. We have 25 subscribers. We just jumped up, what, six in the last? Is it four or six?

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I think we're at a six. Do you want me to look? Because I have it, I had it pulled up here.

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It doesn't matter. I it does matter. I appreciate it.

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People want to know, and I have it pulled. I had it just on the book.

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I do want to know. Okay, so uh I was sitting, this was years ago, and they they started playing Shine On Your Crazy Time, which is really a very, very, very understated start. Like it's a if I remember right, it's just keys for a little while. Just you know, a note every 14 seconds.

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25 subscribers.

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Nice. And this dude next to me, like within like two seconds, kind of like half drunk, good old boy, was like, oh man, because he was just all about he was loving every song they were doing. He was just like, Oh, this Floyd.

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The dude's shining up crazy. Are you kidding, man?

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Are you kidding? Where was this at?

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This is a thirsty year. Oh god.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you re did I know who do we know who that person is?

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No, I didn't know this guy.

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That guy was having the best night of his life.

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He was having a good time. Uncle Dan was making his day like he's made mine many times.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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And all of yours too, at this point, if you're still with us. If you've been with us from the beginning.

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So let's open up with Corrections Corner. We already got two out of the way. All right. Corrections Corner is the time where uh where we discuss things we got wrong on the last episode. It's also a place where we discuss questions we had from the last episode. It's also a place we discuss, hopefully, uh maybe comments. We had a couple nice comments from people.

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We've had a couple?

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We get two nice comments.

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You didn't tell me about the second one.

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Such nice voices? Uh-huh. Or so nice voices.

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So nice voices.

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I like so nice voices better. Thank you very much. And then uh the other person You didn't tell me there was another comment. Yeah, it was uh you guys great cover. I love this cover of What was it? Of Little Talks. Both of those were on Little Talks.

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Cute. Was it the same person? Twice? No. Oh, good. I would like a corner where you don't tell me the comments until we record. Because you knew I'm not gonna go look in it. But you can curate them, and if there's like a tear, like a mean one, but that's kind of funny, then you could share it here.

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Watch you have your last episode.

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Every episode could be our. You can be mean to me too. I just won't come back. Maybe that would be what you would want.

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It would just be Rob talking for live for 25 hours. No, no one wants that.

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All right.

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Um, so we talked a little bit about John Ritter last week.

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Oh yeah, and we weren't sorry, we weren't the biggest John Ritter fans.

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Just yeah. Yeah. We I wanted to know who I like the term, I'm stealing it from the Rewatchables podcast, but they always talk about who market corrected actors. Like, why isn't this guy bigger? Well, it's because so and so was Okay, like I understand the concept. Oh, good. Then I'll continue. Michael J. Fox, Family Ties was really gearing up. They'd won three consecutive Emmys. Ted Danson from Cheers.

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Wait, and then in The Good Plus.

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Bob Newhart.

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Yeah, but this is a long time ago, but I was just thinking. I know, but I was just trying to think of where I knew Ted Danson from.

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Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. But I watched Don't forget Becker.

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Oh yes. Well, I never watched that.

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I think it was the name of the show. Um, but yeah, so uh what did I say, Bob Newhart and John Larriquette from Night Court? I doubt John Larriquette really corrected John Ritter. Come on. Come on.

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Hey, was John Ritter this is a future question.

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Nightcourt's a not a bad show, though.

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Was he in a movie with Macaulay Calkin? Where he like thought he got shot, but then he had like a f something in his thing and didn't really get shot.

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Are you talking about is that Problem Child? Yeah, is that it? Macaulay Calkin's not in it.

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Oh, was John Ritter in it?

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Well, Collar Calkin's gonna get really upset if he listens to this and you're whatever, he's fine.

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He's on Fallout. He's having a great life.

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Yeah, we'll talk. We could talk about Fallout.

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We could. But could you answer my question if John Ritter was in Problem Child?

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Yeah, he was. Oh, okay. So that's right. Then that's the person I don't think. Both Problem Children. With uh um, what's his face?

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You know it's a weird thing about English. It's like the movie's called Problem Child and then Problem Child 2, but like when you talk about both of them at the same time, you have to say problem children.

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Yeah, you don't.

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You can't say the problem child's movies.

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You can. Almost dead.

Shakira & Sitcom Actor Corrections

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I wouldn't I wouldn't recommend it. Don't tell Aaron.

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Let's talk about Shakira.

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Oh, yeah.

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Shakira, Shakira.

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What what what about her? Well, uh language.

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Oh, she's not from Brazil. She is from uh let me see if I could do this. Barranquilla, Colombia.

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Oh, she's from Colombia. Which is why she speaks Spanish, not Portuguese.

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Shakira Isabel Mebarac Ripoli. Or Ripot.

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You should start OnlyFans where people send you Latino phrases to say.

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Yeah. I don't even know if I said any of that right, but uh well the last R-I-P-O-L-L, I don't think that would be said in Spanish. Because her father's Lebanese. Must be a Lebanese last time.

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All right.

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So she's got a lot of But her mom's Colombian.

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Okay.

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Her mom was um. I can't read it.

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Who cares? We don't need to revisit this next week.

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I was gonna, I was trying to remember the uh Manny sister's name in Scarface. It wouldn't have mattered if you would have to be.

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I was like, Manny doesn't have a sister.

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Okay. Um so I was thinking about Manny. You know, he's Cuban anyway. Okay, modern family. Captain America, oh Chris Evans. We I don't think we came up with Evans. We the conversation.

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Captain America, Chris, yeah.

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Yeah, okay. Steve Rogers. Uh the other the other MC that we're supposed to have hosting our concert. So we have a concert that we're working on right now.

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How did you figure that out?

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I just remembered.

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Wow. Yeah, we have a concert.

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Yeah, we have a concert we're putting together.

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We're planning. It's in the planning stages, very early planning stages. A lot more people that we love are gonna have to die before they can come.

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Yeah. Well, we're working on it.

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We have And they will, because everyone does.

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Mm-hmm. It's a concert for dead. It's it's a concert where there's a lot of dead. Dead performers. Performers, uh, just a lot of the greats. A lot of people you love. John Ritter, he will sneak in the door. He'll have a popcorn stand.

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Yeah.

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But it's the greatest popcorn. It smells so good. Oh, I don't know. Everyone's nice, everybody.

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Is it kettle corn?

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Yeah.

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Okay. So who was the other MC we couldn't think of besides Kitty Wells? George Takay.

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Take or Takai, I say it differently every time. Yeah. Those are the two. Could we forget?

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Kitty Wells. And George for K. He wrote in on a dolphin, I hope, right? Was it a dolphin? I think something like that.

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Okay.

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Okay. Like a Lisa Frank. Of course.

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Of course. Um, it could be a Lisa Frank kitten, too. They could both write in on a they could take turns.

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There were no neon colors in the 40s. So that wouldn't work for Kitty Wells.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Oh, in the 40s, gotcha. 50s too, right? Perhaps. Probably 60s.

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There's definitely neon colors in the 60s.

Cactus Blossoms & Concert Planning

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Whoa, easy. Um, cactus blossoms. Why the brothers have different last names? Jack Tory and uh Paige Burkham. It's kind of like uh it's a Sheen Nestiva situation. They keep coming up. Um he rearranged his own last name into Jack Tory as a stage name. They are blood brothers, same parents. They just one one changed his last name away.

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That's what I said. One of them has a stage name.

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It's nice to know it.

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Okay.

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Why wouldn't they both do it? That's interesting.

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I I could see me and Laura making different decisions, but still wanting to work together on a project.

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But would she be uh what's her name? Janet?

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She would want to be Janet. Nickname for Laura is Janet.

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Everybody would be like, they have the same last name, but one of them just feels like it's not quite her first name.

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I didn't know Janet was a nickname for Laura.

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Dick and Richard. Alright. Hoyd. This is gonna be one of those where like, I don't remember talking about that.

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But um I would never say that or think that.

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That's what you sound like, though. You have to admit.

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Like I'm in a trash can when I talk.

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Your faces.

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The basement makes my nose run.

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Hoyd. Hoyd from uh from the Cosmere books, the Braden Sanderson books. I mean I mentioned him in relation to Oh, I thought that horse from Russian doll reminded me of him.

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I do remember talking about this.

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He's the only character who is in all the books, I believe. Under Hoyd, Wit, Gophandrius, Topez, Dust, and Lunaniki. Lunuwanaki.

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And what was that other name?

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Hoyd.

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No, no, and well, it was someone from the musician who had all those names? Or the superhero who had all those names?

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The superhero. I was talking about horse.

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I know, but and Dickie Longdickings or something.

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Was it a superhero? Okay, you're confusing Dr. Octogod, aka Black Elvis, aka Dicky Longstocking.

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Dickey Longstocking? That's what his other name was.

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Or underwork. Hoid. Underworking.

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Underworks is saying that someone.

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You're confusing him with a Dr. Octopus.

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Okay.

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And all of them with Hoid and Horse.

SPEAKER_03 18:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

Is everybody on the same page now? No, I love it. This is great. I love throwing insane, uh just giant waves of But they're in a launch uh launch missed by it doesn't matter. They're a bunch of Bruce Anderson books. I've read half of them.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:37

Pretty good. Don't like them all though.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

Okay. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

Okay, uh, we talked about Russian doll, gotta get up and shine on your crazy diamond. The uh incidental music is also really nice.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

Are you still correcting?

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Yeah, I'm still going. I'm going through my notes here.

SPEAKER_03 18:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

Uh other Jim Butcher books other than Dresden Files.

SPEAKER_03 18:58

Uh-huh. What are they?

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Codex Alera.

SPEAKER_03 19:01

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

There's six of those. It's a Roman-inspired fantasy with elemental furies. Nope. Um, Cinder Spires. It's a steampunk book. I've seen I've I've almost read that one. Apparently he wrote a Spider-Man novel as well. Whoa. Yeah. Um, Ben Stiller's wife. First of all, let's start with Mr. Ernst from Hey Dude. His name is David Brisbane.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

Good to know. I'm glad you corrected Christine Taylor.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

She played melody.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

Christine Taylor. So she does she is half of a Christina Applegate.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

Oh. So see, that wasn't totally right. Okay, you weren't. Okay, you get half credit on that.

SPEAKER_03 19:41

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

Is that a 50%?

SPEAKER_01 19:43

That's 50%, that's 49%. You still failed pretty bad. You're actually 11% shy. That sucks. Do you really want 49 ones? Just take a zero. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:56

Sorry. I'm embarrassed.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:57

I'm gonna leave. Leave your comments below.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

You asked about auditory migraine auras.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

Might have been a little wrong on that one.

SPEAKER_03 20:04

Huh.

SPEAKER_01 20:05

There's not, let's see here. They're not officially recognized by the International Headache Society. I'd like to join. What do they even know?

SPEAKER_03 20:14

They don't know anything.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

Um they're so visual auras are Have they even seen Ricky O, the story of Ricky? I'd curious. Have they referenced it at all? No. They don't. John Johns Hopkins will not let them into their files.

SPEAKER_03 20:28

Well, they're probably wise to keep them out.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Yeah. That's a deep cut, guys. That's a really deep cut. Um so the International Headache Society does not recognize auditory migraines, although they are reported in about 2% of cases. They usually hear voices, but it's during the headache, not preceding the headache. Um also ringing, buzzing, crickets, bells, and hissing. Uh higher prevalence with a comorbid depression.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

That's sad.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

Yeah, that would suck. Okay, and Wildflowers, I made the mistake of saying it was on the Tom Petty Greatest Hits. Greatest hits. Kind of is, but not the one that I was thinking. I was thinking the one where they're all sitting around the Heartbreakers' Greatest Hits.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

There's like there's a lot of greatest hits for Tom Petty.

SPEAKER_03 21:17

Good for him. It was on the He deserves it.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

He does. And he had them. He had enough to fill two albums, and that's the one that was on the Tom Petty Best of Everything Two Disc Set. Uh Heartbreakers and Solo Career stuff. Yeah. Cool. Uh, and then I just wanted to throw out Deadly More, Deadly More, Deadly More.

SPEAKER_03 21:38

Thank you. I agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

I agree with that. My mom kept she was talking about Flatland. Because we we talked about Flatman.

SPEAKER_03 21:47

We talked about all three Flatland videos.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Maybe we should just next time, next time we're gonna go into three movies of the same subject in a book, we should probably pick maybe just be a little bit more selective. But but she was talking about it and she was texting, she was referring to Dudley Moore. She wrote Deadly Moore, send, Deadly Moore, send, Dudley Moore.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

Deadly and then finally got Dudley. Um button. I need you to back up. How could we be more selective?

SPEAKER_01 22:24

I was just saying, I was just I'm I'm being stupid. I was just saying that by the time we got done with the flatland movie, yeah. Which none of them were good.

SPEAKER_03 22:34

No.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

It was just really draining.

SPEAKER_03 22:36

We should have watched them in the order of longest to shortest. We would have been so much happier by the time we got to the best one, which was also the shortest one.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

You're right. Next time you guys, uh just a little this is Leslie's tip. Yep. When you watch three of the same movie, three versions. Three versions of the same movie, watch shortest, uh shortest. No, no, no, longest to shortest. Longest the shortest.

SPEAKER_03 22:58

Yeah.

unknown 22:58

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

Leslie's tip.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

That's right. Deadly Moore. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

Uh was there any Rob missed it?

SPEAKER_03 23:05

I don't think so. You're doing really good at being a wonderful husband.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

There was something, but it got I somehow left it off my list.

SPEAKER_03 23:11

It uh missed it twice now.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Oh my gosh. You know I'm gonna have to dig for that.

Consumption Corner

SPEAKER_03 23:16

All right.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

Okay, so a few things we could talk about this week.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

Sure. Is is there something you need to talk about that I'm unaware of? Well like do you have a five-minute movie corner?

SPEAKER_01 23:28

So I don't. I didn't quite finish um what am I watching? The Battered Bastards of Baseball.

SPEAKER_03 23:34

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

With a bit about being Russell. It's got a lot of Kurt on it.

SPEAKER_03 23:39

But you haven't finished it yet?

SPEAKER_01 23:40

I haven't finished it yet. We'll talk about it next week.

SPEAKER_03 23:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

I'm also over halfway done with carrying comfort.

SPEAKER_03 23:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

Whew.

SPEAKER_03 23:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

That's quite a quite a book. Mom, do not read it. A child dies. Several. Terribly.

SPEAKER_03 23:57

That's awful. I don't want to read that either.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

There's also a lot of sexual assaults.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

There's a lot of racism.

SPEAKER_03 24:02

I don't think you need to even bring this up. It's a family podcast.

SPEAKER_01 24:05

Well, I'm not gonna talk in detail about it. I just want to. It's a great book, though. It's somehow still a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_03 24:11

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:12

Congratulations.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Kind of like Event Horizon, which we'll be talking about today.

SPEAKER_03 24:16

Well, that was a lot of fun for a lot of reasons.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Mm-hmm. Yes, it was. Okay. Uh do I want to talk about something that well you we you talked about last week you talked about a I think you said a case I think you said the best of you, but did you mean a case of you? Joni Mitchell.

SPEAKER_03 24:34

No, it's his song. And that's the name of a song, and I think it was called Best For You.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

Best for you, crap. Well, I listened to her. A case of you? A case of you.

SPEAKER_03 24:45

And how was it?

SPEAKER_01 24:46

It's good. It's pretty good. It was off of blue. It was a uh good considered just be aware.

SPEAKER_03 24:51

The lady that asked for that, I'm not gonna see her again until March. So how am I gonna make fun of you with her?

SPEAKER_01 24:56

You can call her. You solve her number, don't you?

SPEAKER_03 24:58

No, I don't. She lives in a nursing home.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Oh, well, why don't you go visit her?

SPEAKER_03 25:01

Okay, I will in March.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

You're supposed to visit shut-ins, you know that?

SPEAKER_03 25:04

Sh I do every month, every week.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

Then why are you asking me for help when you know what when you need to be able to do?

SPEAKER_03 25:09

Anyway, it was best for you. It was like a wedding song, and the content was like wishing the best for you.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Well, I'll be listening to that this week. This week. So next week I will talk about best for you. I should I should I I should uh ask you though, you should listen to a case of you.

SPEAKER_03 25:24

I will.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Um You should. It's about uh Graham Nash. And I think she wrote it about Graham Nash when she was in a relationship with James Taylor.

SPEAKER_03 25:37

Is it Chris Christopher's? Cosby Still's Nash and Young?

SPEAKER_01 25:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:41

Oh look at me, I know stuff.

Earth, Wind & Fire's Spirit Deep Dive

SPEAKER_01 25:42

Look at you. Look at you go. Uh we got uh Spirit, Earth Wind Fire. We're gonna talk about the Fallout show, possibly. Um, was there something else? Do you want to talk about what do you want to talk about first? Let's talk about Spirit. Was there a sh another show we started watching Resident Alien? True. We can save that though. Yeah, we'll talk about some other time.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

It's good though if you're if you've heard of it and you've been on the fence.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 26:06

It's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

It is pretty funny. Al Alan Tudick is uh Fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 26:11

He might not be a national treasure, but he's a heart, he's in my heart as a national treasure. I love that guy. Yeah. He's been uh he's now that I know he's not the one that I not the main character of Firefly. What's his name?

SPEAKER_01 26:25

Nathan. I'm not gonna get it. I wish Nathan Lane was like they just started to like sneak him at him, but like I swear it's a different guy this time.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

It's like it's like when the the opening credits change just a little bit. You're like, wait, are these credits different this time?

SPEAKER_01 26:43

He's like, you can't take the sky from me.

SPEAKER_03 26:46

It would be a lot better if Nathan Lane sang it.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

You want to talk about Spirit, Earth Wind and Fire?

SPEAKER_03 26:53

Yeah, I do. Go for it.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

Speaking of uh very expressive singers, what'd you think of Spirit? Have you had you heard the entire album or the song? Oh well, the entire album.

SPEAKER_03 27:06

So I loved it. You did? Yeah, I like Earth Wind and Fire a lot. A lot of fun. A lot of instruments, which you know I love.

SPEAKER_01 27:13

I try to get a unique count of instruments on this.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

Was it over 20?

SPEAKER_01 27:18

Oh yeah. Well, there's nine like core members in the band.

SPEAKER_03 27:22

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 27:23

Just just in the like proper Earth One and Fire proper.

SPEAKER_03 27:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:26

But then they have there's like eight names in the violin section. Yeah, there's um there's a jazz a jazz harp player. I can't remember her name. But uh Wow, what's a jazz harp? I don't know, but I'm pretty sure it's on imagination. It's probably on a couple other songs too.

SPEAKER_03 27:46

Do you think my dad could build us one? Sidebar for a harp story?

SPEAKER_00 27:53

You wanna?

SPEAKER_03 27:54

Sure. Sure. I want my dad, it's a woodworker. We're gonna get to the point too where I'm gonna be like, did I gotta tell this story on here?

SPEAKER_00 28:00

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 28:01

But you know, if you're new. We haven't though.

SPEAKER_03 28:03

Okay. My dad used to build boats and airplane model airplanes and was just really skilled with building things. And um, so I was like sniffing fairy from Tommy Boy.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

Continue.

SPEAKER_03 28:17

My dad is not neither of those things. Anyway, he uh I had asked him to build me a harp, and I found like the plans and everything, and so he bought the plans, he did buy the plants, and then what about a yearish later? Something like he brought me the harp and he said, Here's your harp. I was like, Oh my gosh, thank you so much, blah blah blah. I started learning it, it's beautiful. It's like, I don't know, what'd you say, like four feet high?

SPEAKER_01 28:45

It looks full size, but it's probably not, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 28:46

It's got like 46 strings or something like that on it, and it has like two, like like uh little levers where you can change the pitch up a half a step.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

We totally need to do a harp song, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

Oh gosh, I'd have to work up some harps, but anyway, whatever. We need to get that out and let it sit out and be beautiful, yeah. Anyway, so we played it. I learned some Christmas music, Rob and I played it in public a few times, and I'm like literally telling everyone, my dad made this heart, my dad made this heart. So am I, and finally, and he could have made it, so it was a it was like not a stretch for either of us to believe that he would have made it. And then finally, he never said to his credit, he never did say that he made it, he just said like your heart.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

He applied that yeah, he just didn't correct.

SPEAKER_03 29:27

And finally, my mom was like, Howard, you need to tell her. And I was like, Tell me what? And she was like, he did not make that, he just decided after getting the plans that it was gonna be too much work, so he just bought you one instead.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

So we had to go back to like because we played like a Christmas special at church. So Leslie's dad didn't make the get down on our knees.

SPEAKER_03 29:50

They had to lay hands on us.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

Bill, it's okay, buddy. I don't know what was more devastating for me, finding out that your dad didn't build that harp. Or that you didn't watch Groundhog Day.

SPEAKER_03 30:02

Oh yeah. Which we I also when you decide, let me know.

SPEAKER_01 30:06

I I thought about watching um Groundhog Day this week instead of Event Horizon, but I feel like people might have had time loop fatigue. Yeah, and also I really wanted to watch Event Horizon again.

SPEAKER_03 30:18

Yeah, same. Anyway, back to jazz harp. We'll have to look up what a jazz harp is because what I have is a folk harp. A lever folk harp.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

I was just browsing the Wikipedia page. Um maybe it's just uh what's the difference between a fiddle and a violin?

SPEAKER_03 30:32

Nothing. Well it's played. Could be like that. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

I don't know. I'm just talking on my butt. Okay. Corrections corner. So, Spirit. Have you had you heard this album before? Have you just no, I didn't.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

I this album got on my radar. This is by the way, Earth Wind and Fire Spirit, 1976, number two on the Billboard 200, number two on top soul albums of the year, went double platinum. Uh producer Maurice White, he took over after Charles Stepney died during the recording, which is kind of sad. Um, had some number one singles.

SPEAKER_03 31:07

I don't feel that sad about it. People die every day.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

Well, had a love it. It's terrible. Okay, Charles Stepney can go to our concert, by the way, so it's okay. We can say whatever we want.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

Yeah, he's welcome. Dead or alive. One everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

You can write it on John Rhetoric. That's terrible.

SPEAKER_03 31:31

I've already been talking for 30 minutes, which only leaves us an hour left.

SPEAKER_01 31:35

Okay. Well, we're but we've already moved on to we're actually talking about subjects now. Totally. It's not just corrections. True.

SPEAKER_03 31:42

Anyway, well, okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

Somewhere our wires got crossed.

SPEAKER_03 31:46

Can you tell me though? And don't laugh at me, people in the audience. Don't comment like you're so dumb. I guess you can. I'll never know because I'm not going to read them.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

Well, you'll know because they'll oh, right.

SPEAKER_03 31:55

I'll bring them up on the You'll bring it up as one of your curated comments. You're so dumb. You're so cute. Curated comments.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

I curated the crap out of this one.

SPEAKER_03 32:05

What shape is this even becoming?

SPEAKER_01 32:09

All right, what's your dumb stupid comment?

SPEAKER_03 32:11

Uh are they considered disco?

SPEAKER_01 32:15

Dude, they're everything on this album.

SPEAKER_03 32:17

But I mean, generally, like funk, like what are they?

SPEAKER_01 32:20

Yeah, they're uh funk, jazz, disco, a little bit of rock, a little bit of gospel.

SPEAKER_03 32:27

I mean, they're kind of like true, like truly this is not just this album, I just mean the whole band in general, like their genre. What genre?

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Um, soul? I I don't know. Funk? So I mean they are very much square, like if you go on, I you know I love my lists, if you go on any greatest funk bands of all time list, you're not you're not gonna find one that doesn't have Earth Windows Fire in the top five.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Like so, but it's not really funk first and foremost. I mean, they're jazzier than a lot of the jazz I listen to. Yeah. So I gotta say, incredibly complicated, complicated layered album, especially.

SPEAKER_03 33:05

It felt like the second half, or maybe the final third couple of songs. To me, I I got a little lost. It got a little lost in the weeds. It started sounding like, let's just keep this on and we'll just play forever, and you know how I feel about that.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

So I know, I do. I do know how you feel about that.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

Well So I didn't care as much for the second lower half of the tracks, but I love like the first seven.

SPEAKER_01 33:32

So I'm guessing after Discovery, I believe is the name of the song. Well, there's a song on there that's like 25 seconds long.

SPEAKER_04 33:39

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

And it is kind of like I think it's midway. And after that is a little bit of a different sound. I it's I I don't really know. I mean, I didn't sit there and you know, I don't even know how to listen for that sort of thing anyway. But it does kind of mark like a change. A change in the album a little bit. Well, I didn't care for the change. Apparently it was an artistic choice. I I really liked it very much, but I'm with you. I mean, so Getaway is like Getaway is the whole reason I listened to this album in the first place.

SPEAKER_03 34:11

It's like pure pop happiness.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

It is just a freaking killer song. Yeah. I mean, the bass line on it is insane. The all sorts of things.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

Yeah, I mean, it's sort of like a pop group was an orchestra. Like I feel like well, before there's so much simultaneous movement going on.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

Before I even heard this before I even heard Earth Wind and Fire do it, I think the first band I ever heard do this song was a cover, and it was the Sal Sol Orchestra. Salsol. South Solsol Orchestra would be a function. It's a sweet, it's an instrumental, of course.

SPEAKER_03 34:44

Of course.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

It's a great cover of it. So I think like immediately I went out and just listened to this entire album. Cool. This is probably 15 years ago, give or take. And I've been listening to it every now and then since.

SPEAKER_03 34:57

You know what though, I feel a little sadness when I listen to big groups like that, because it's just hard to recreate on your own.

SPEAKER_01 35:03

You mean like if we're gonna sit here and try to do getaway?

SPEAKER_03 35:05

Or if like a person at work wanted to hear an Earth Window Fire, I'd be like, dude, you know, it would be so slipper pedal work. Hard. And I wouldn't do it. I'd be like, I don't know, let's just kind of something in it. Let's just listen to it.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

That and like I mean, I you you're I'm not just fluffing you here, but you're a great singer. But could could you you you would have to really you'd either have to the sheet music and practice the crap out of some of these songs? Because like Philip Bailey and They're all over the place.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

How do you feel about the falsettos? Are you cool with that?

SPEAKER_03 35:34

They're okay, yeah. They're they're done.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

Do you get falsetto fatigue?

SPEAKER_03 35:37

Uh it's I like it when they go back.

SPEAKER_01 35:42

Lily would not like this, uh not like this.

SPEAKER_03 35:44

She hates that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

Yeah. Yeah. She every time I'd be listening to the anything with a falsetto singer, it could be it could be like the Delphonics or Guns and Roses, and she'd be like, oh I hate this.

SPEAKER_03 35:59

That's what makes the world go round.

SPEAKER_01 36:01

But the I one thing I would recommend doing is listening to um this. So this is considered like peak peak Earth One and Fire. Okay. Um if you get what are the three other albums? Um That's is it that's the way of the world? Do you know what I'm talking about? Nope. Uh okay. All in all, I think all in all is the song, there's the album after this. Anyways, if you get these three albums, like it's basically like their seventh album, their eighth, and their ninth, you could listen to. If you like if you like this one, do yourself a favor and listen to the one before this and the next one. Because it's just like pure Earth One and Fire funky goodness.

SPEAKER_03 36:50

Listen, if you know of groups out there today that make music anywhere near this fun, groovy, I don't know, giant instrumental, like let me know.

SPEAKER_01 36:59

Yeah, yeah. Comment.

SPEAKER_03 37:00

Not that I don't want to listen to old stuff, I'd love it, but like you can't really go see the original Earth One and Fire, you know?

SPEAKER_01 37:09

Yeah. Yeah. I mean a lot of this is uh this is considered to be the 333rd greatest album of all time. Five Rolling Stones. 500.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

What?

SPEAKER_01 37:20

Yeah, it's yeah, it's still though. It's I mean it's pretty up there.

SPEAKER_03 37:23

I mean it's got a lot of I guess to be on a list of 500 out of trillions of albums is probably okay.

SPEAKER_01 37:29

You got uh yeah, it's not bad. Middle third. That blue, that Joni Mitchell album is like 15 on the list.

SPEAKER_03 37:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

The one that uh the wrong song that I listened to. Um I think still Bill might be on the list, too.

SPEAKER_03 37:43

He better be.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

Uh his his album we'll talk about. But uh you got you got just all sorts of great players on here. Ronnie Law's, he wasn't on this album, but he played with him earlier on. Ronnie, have you have you ever listened to Ronnie Law's?

SPEAKER_03 37:56

I don't know, Ron.

SPEAKER_01 37:57

Friends and Strangers is uh album I'll make you listen to sometimes. It's one of my faves. But you got uh Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band. We got some players from that who were who filled out the Still Bill album. So we got a lot of crossover, a lot of big session players.

SPEAKER_03 38:14

That doesn't surprise me.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:16

I could see that.

SPEAKER_01 38:16

It's just a just killer. I love did you like um what's the name of the song? On your face?

SPEAKER_03 38:24

Well, honey, unless you specifically say I need to like.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

It's kind of it's very, it's got a real uh I don't suppose you ever listened to the MC Hammer cover of it, have you?

SPEAKER_03 38:34

No.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

It's not as good.

SPEAKER_03 38:37

No, I bet not.

SPEAKER_01 38:39

It's the second, it's the second song. It's it's really upbeat.

SPEAKER_03 38:42

Oh, okay. The second song. Okay, the first like five songs, I was very into all of them, and then I started drifting after that. Okay, cool. So if it was one of the first five, I don't care what their names are. I know which one is spirit because we talked about it the other day.

SPEAKER_01 38:57

Saturday night was also a hit. Okay. That's the one they're talking about some sort of funny smell at the end.

SPEAKER_03 39:04

Um they smell like those humble people in the uh the grocery store yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 39:09

Yes, I think that's the same smell. Might have been the one Skinnard was talking about, too. Um is it French? I tried to find so apparently Al McKay's rhythm guitar on Getaway was is used in a lot of hip-hop samples. I couldn't find a single one. But I don't know. I I believe it. I just you know, I like to I know you don't care about any of this, but I like to uh go through and see interesting things, but uh I think I might be about out of them. Other than Spirit, the beginning of Spirit sounds like canned heat from Jamiroquai.

SPEAKER_03 39:41

All right.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

There, how about we end on that?

SPEAKER_03 39:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

Anything else you want to say about this album?

SPEAKER_03 39:45

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 39:46

More like it? How would you place it? Uh would you place this above or below can't um cactus blossoms, you're dreaming. That was the last one you listened to.

SPEAKER_03 39:59

I know. I I think I'd have to put cactus blossoms above it, just because it's more easily more easily singable.

SPEAKER_01 40:07

I feel like I need we need to start, we need to create a spreadsheet. Okay. You'll have like Oscar Peterson. I'm not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_03 40:15

Are you gonna do that in your extra time?

SPEAKER_01 40:17

Maybe.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

Maybe one of you lovely listeners could start doing that for us. That's that's good.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

One of the top twenty-five. Okay, do you want to move on?

SPEAKER_03 40:26

Uh I definitely do, yeah. And do you want to talk about what else did you want to talk about before we move into our main topic?

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Oh, uh, do you want to talk about Fallout?

SPEAKER_03 40:36

Did you have other things besides Fallout?

SPEAKER_01 40:38

Yeah, I think I did.

SPEAKER_03 40:40

Um Well, I'll just while you're looking, I'll just say I started reading Phantom Tollbooth.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

Oh, you did?

SPEAKER_03 40:45

Which my phone has auto-corrected to Phantom Tooth.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 40:49

I think it's I think I'm reading Phantom Tollbooth and not Phantom Tooth, but now I'm not gonna be able to. As well as Extreme Ownership. Started listening to that.

SPEAKER_01 40:59

Whoa.

SPEAKER_03 40:59

And is which is Jocko Willink. And what's the other guy's name? Leaf something. Leaf Erickson Leif Ericsson Day.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

Yeah, he's like uh he's like Fitch.

SPEAKER_03 41:06

It's Leif. It's Leaf something. Anyway, uh the funny thing is I listen to my books at 1.25 speed, and it's like Jocko Willink is already so intense when he talks. So then when you put him on eyes, he'd be like, oh no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like you're just kind of scared when you're listening to it. Like he's mad at you for the way you just washed that dish while you were listening to him talk.

SPEAKER_01 41:24

It's true.

SPEAKER_03 41:25

Anyway, and then um okay, but that's all. But then I had two other very quick.

SPEAKER_01 41:30

How far are you into each one respectively? Pages, single-digit pages.

SPEAKER_03 41:36

Okay, cool. Um, and then I also just went we talked about it last week, but I just really want to give another shout out to Yin Yoga. And I particularly I really like yoga with Adrian on on YouTube, but I've discovered yoga with Cassandra with a K. She has a lot more yoga. It is, it's her. She has a lot more yin specific videos. And then the final thing that I will say is if you haven't done any cottage cheese making, I would highly recommend.

SPEAKER_01 42:04

Why don't you give us an example?

SPEAKER_03 42:06

Well, of course, the cottage cheese bagels have been viral for a while. Literally just made a batch of those before we came down here. I've had them.

SPEAKER_01 42:12

I thought you invented them.

SPEAKER_03 42:14

No, I did not. I can't invent things. I just make things that already exist more refined.

SPEAKER_01 42:19

What about the cottage cheese ranch?

SPEAKER_03 42:22

No, my friend Bridget is the one that told me about that.

SPEAKER_01 42:24

Well, that that's that's not baking, but that's you're trying to get a lot of good protein.

SPEAKER_03 42:29

Take cottage cheese in a ranch packet and make a ranch dip.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

Naked wings. And blender. And uh cottage cheese ranch. It sounds good. I don't like cottage cheese. No, I don't either.

SPEAKER_03 42:40

But I can eat it like that.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

I'll eat some cottage cheese. It's really earthy. It's good.

SPEAKER_03 42:43

And then but I then yesterday I also made blueberry muffins with cottage cheese. Those were good. And they were really good. So don't be a hater on the cottage cheese baking.

SPEAKER_01 42:54

No one is saying anything.

SPEAKER_03 42:56

Okay, anyway. What else did you have to say? Anything else? You want to talk about Fallout real quick? Real quick.

SPEAKER_01 43:02

Uh yeah, there was there was there was uh something else I thought. Maybe there was. Oh, I know what it was. It was a Rob Mista thing. You said something about James Atkins. You you said he he needs to be one of our subscribers. You called him out. I didn't notice that. I thought it was a great idea. I think maybe I'll reach out to him.

SPEAKER_03 43:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 43:19

We'll see. Who is that? Oh, he's uh he's the drummer from Bob James, who just kind of fell off the map, and I don't know what happened. The greatest drummer of all time.

SPEAKER_03 43:29

I follow him on Instagram.

SPEAKER_01 43:30

Oh, do you? Yeah. But yeah, the one that we saw, that you and I saw.

SPEAKER_03 43:33

Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

Yes. John Mahan, the Elton John's Loser drummer. Fly by night, freaking dime a dozen drummers.

SPEAKER_02 43:41

Dime a dozen Elton John drummers.

SPEAKER_01 43:44

Well, that guy was a sweet.

SPEAKER_02 43:46

Poor guy. All right.

Fallout TV Show Discussion

SPEAKER_01 43:47

He was great. Uh Fallout. Yeah, let's let's we're obviously not going to go do a breakdown of all what, fifteen episodes?

SPEAKER_03 43:54

No, there was like nine.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

No, well, no, but season one and two. Oh We're talking about the first season.

SPEAKER_03 44:00

Okay, well, we're caught up on season one and two of Fallout.

SPEAKER_01 44:03

This is just kind of like a State of the Union address.

SPEAKER_03 44:05

Yeah, like I don't play the Fallout video game. And I absolutely love every second. Yeah, exactly. See? That's how you can tell that I don't play it.

SPEAKER_01 44:15

What's like the children's version of games? Also known as plural. They're just games, right?

SPEAKER_03 44:25

Shut up. It's English. Anyway, and I was just going to say that you don't have to have played the game, the one singular game of Fallout, before you would love the show. Because it's so amazing. In this world we live in where everybody loves a dystopian future story, you'll love it.

SPEAKER_01 44:44

It's a great dystopian future story.

SPEAKER_03 44:47

It's so great.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

Well, I in my opinion, so you know, you're gonna there's there's people who want to get so mad about the inaccuracies and whatnot. Number one How could it be that interactive? It's not like dude, did they just they do a I I I I did not read all of the Harry Potters, but they do a closer job, in my opinion. Wouldn't you say that so the the Harry Potter movies do the books pretty well, right? Sure. I would say it's I think they get worse if not better. I'm trying to think of like a top-tier adherence adaptation. Yeah, like How's Moving Castle? We know that's not one. Right. Great, great, both the the movie was fantastic. Not what I'm saying. It's just not accurate, yeah. Trying to think of books. Was Lord of the Rings pretty close to the books?

SPEAKER_03 45:34

I've actually not read Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

I haven't, I haven't either. I don't know what's wrong with us. Claim to be nerds.

SPEAKER_03 45:40

We're sort of like borderline nerds.

SPEAKER_01 45:42

It's to the point that Todd Howard, and say what you will about Todd Howard, do you know who that is? He's the Bethesda.

SPEAKER_03 45:48

Oh, the game guy.

SPEAKER_01 45:49

Well, in a way, you could call him that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:51

But Bethesda is the game company, right?

SPEAKER_01 45:53

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 45:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:54

He's the game guy. You know Todd Howard, the game guy. He comes anywhere.

SPEAKER_03 45:58

He invented Fallout the game.

SPEAKER_01 45:59

Just dresses like uh dresses like that dude from Grandma's boy. I have a vintage. Okay, but um he said that they're I think he said that they're making Fallout from the series, they're gonna woe weave that into the canon of the game.

SPEAKER_03 46:17

Because it's the Oh kind of like Pirates of the Caribbean ride at Disney becoming a movie.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

Yeah. Um, I think it takes place I think it takes place like at least 10 years after the latest game. Okay. Chronologically. Sure. Anyways, I love it. I love all the Easter eggs.

SPEAKER_03 46:35

They definitely went to painstaking trouble to I bet there's a 10 times things that you didn't even notice that are in there.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

I've heard people say, oh, totally, totally. I'd I'd entertain a rewatch for sure. But I I've heard people say, like, it's too silly, like the games were like that. The games were like that. The first two fallouts, especially, were zany. Like they were super silly. They had like just obscure Monty Python references, like in the middle of nowhere, like tons of all that being said, it I will very much, I don't care what way the dinosaur is facing, um, like they definitely did a good job. I've as a fallout fan, I was very happy, especially after after having come off of Halo, which was a travesty. Pretty bad, yeah. Um travesty. I'm very blessed to live in a world with a Halo adaptation as a travesty. Um but hashtag. Um yeah, I just love I love the cast Walton Goggins is honestly the three main characters are in all support.

SPEAKER_03 47:42

Wait, who's the third main character?

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Uh, what's his name? Uh I mean which one is Maximus? I would say Maximus, Lucy Soldier and all three of those guys are are great.

SPEAKER_03 47:51

Um and then like the side character that's becoming a ghoul.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

Aaron Moton. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:57

He's great.

SPEAKER_01 47:57

He's awesome. What is his name? He's really he's a he's a great comic relief.

SPEAKER_03 48:03

Well, I mean, honestly, it's hard to beat a relationship like Lucy because she's so happy-go-lucky with the world weary ghoul. And he's just so angry at the end. Pretty sure he has been just like a giant D I C K, and she's just like, oh, everything's wonderful. We're gonna do great. We should be polite.

SPEAKER_01 48:23

So what's the word for that? There's a word for two kind of opposing uh foil.

SPEAKER_03 48:28

A foil. Wow, what Aaron needs to listen to this. This is Aaron, Aaron, it's your episode. Our friend that Aaron is a teacher of English.

SPEAKER_01 48:36

So um I love that I I don't I haven't read this anywhere, but the ghoul seems to have um how what's his name? Howard? He seems to have the bloody mess perk. Does that mean anything to you?

SPEAKER_03 48:49

No. Bloody mess is a feature in the game.

SPEAKER_01 48:53

Well, you could say it's a feature. Yeah, it's a so I won't get into the details, but every game has some version of perks. So here I go. Perks. And perks usually come with like often there's a plus and a minus to get it.

SPEAKER_03 49:08

Anyway, this is a whole like when you choose your character on snowboard kids, you like to choose all around.

SPEAKER_01 49:13

You stole the words out of my mouth. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:18

All around.

SPEAKER_01 49:20

So bloody mess is a perk where you tend to you have a high chance of just exploding people. And it the the main reason to take it, other than the obvious, if you're into that sort of thing. Extreme carnage, like say the gore orgy from Event Horizon.

SPEAKER_03 49:37

Or a gorgy.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

That's in my notes.

SPEAKER_03 49:40

Oh, I took the words right out of your mouth two times in a row.

SPEAKER_01 49:42

But I think you get like a plus five percent damage bonus, too, or something. Anyways, I love the death clause. I love I just love it. It's great. It's really good.

SPEAKER_03 49:50

I love it too.

SPEAKER_01 49:51

It's zany.

SPEAKER_03 49:52

Now, if I was playing that, I would be scared.

SPEAKER_01 49:56

It can be kind of scary.

SPEAKER_03 49:58

Because when you're like when they're like investigating, you know, dilapidated, rundown abandoned buildings of any kind. It's scary. But basically, there's always something in there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:09

It's crazy how much the every one of the games has increased in popularity um since the show. Like this show has been a huge hit. I think it had like 17 Emmy nominations.

SPEAKER_03 50:20

Good for you.

SPEAKER_01 50:20

Yeah, I'm I'm I'm excited. Season three is coming out. The game guy. The game guy.

SPEAKER_03 50:27

What's his real name?

SPEAKER_01 50:28

Todd Howard. Todd Howard.

SPEAKER_03 50:30

Yeah, he's I get why'd he name his own character after himself?

SPEAKER_01 50:36

I see what you did there.

SPEAKER_03 50:37

Didn't he? You named the gold Howard.

SPEAKER_01 50:40

I don't know how much creative control he is. He was there.

SPEAKER_03 50:44

He was in the room.

SPEAKER_01 50:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:45

He was in the room.

SPEAKER_01 50:46

I like to see the death clause and super mutants come out and uh we'll we'll talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 50:49

I keep thinking that you're saying C-L-A-U-S-E.

SPEAKER_01 50:52

Death Clause?

SPEAKER_03 50:53

Like something will happen if they die, the clause of the death clause.

SPEAKER_01 50:56

Oh, not like uh Santa Claus. Not like Hopper's character from uh Violet Night.

SPEAKER_03 51:02

That was great.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

I wanted that movie to be better, but it was entertaining. I did enjoy it. I like the regret it. Good sledgehammer fight.

SPEAKER_03 51:09

Um speaking of Carnage.

SPEAKER_01 51:11

Only to be topped as far as hammer fights go by Raid Two.

SPEAKER_03 51:16

Never seen it.

SPEAKER_01 51:16

We should watch that sometime.

SPEAKER_03 51:18

Have I seen Raid One?

SPEAKER_01 51:20

You don't have to.

SPEAKER_03 51:21

Oh, it's one of those.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

But you should.

SPEAKER_03 51:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:23

Raid one is fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 51:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:25

Raid two is just Raid One, do you think how could this get any better? My dad didn't like it though. It's like one of the greatest action movies of all time, but it is a pure action movie. He's like, there's no plot. I'm like, oh yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. But the action, huh? Come on, Bruce. Look at those machetes. Look at them. Okay, anyways, we're not talking about the raid. Do you want to talk about Event Horizon?

SPEAKER_03 51:48

I want to talk about Event Horizon. And it's not Pandora.

SPEAKER_01 51:53

Pandorum?

SPEAKER_03 51:54

Pandorum.

SPEAKER_01 51:55

Yeah, or Pandora like Hellraiser in space. Opens up Pandora's.

SPEAKER_03 51:59

Because we had watched both Pandorum and Event Horizon, and I was going back into it thinking this is going to be Pandorum.

SPEAKER_01 52:06

But just to just to clarify, we did not recently watch, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:10

But when we went, when you were like, let's rewatch Event Horizon, in my mind, the plot line was oh, I kept kept waiting for those aliens to show themselves.

SPEAKER_01 52:18

Sam Neil was Dennis Quaid.

SPEAKER_03 52:19

Yeah. They're so similar.

SPEAKER_01 52:21

They're pretty similar. They're two very similar movies. And I think the hey, we're going to spoil some stuff, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 52:27

Yeah. If you haven't seen Event Horizon, pause it. Yeah, I don't.

SPEAKER_01 52:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:33

Hey, can I ask you a quick Fallout?

SPEAKER_01 52:35

Or Sunshine.

SPEAKER_03 52:36

There's a lot of I'm sorry, I have to go back to Fallout for just a second.

SPEAKER_01 52:40

Yeah, please, of course. We can talk about Fallout the rest of the episode.

SPEAKER_03 52:43

No, we're not going to do that. Um, but one thing, my question is this is I don't know that this is really gonna be a spoiler, but if you don't want to hear anything about Fallout, then skip for like a couple minutes. But at the beginning of season one, they show the initial bomb and he is at a party with his daughter. Right? Yeah. Then then all of season one and all of season two, you get all these flashbacks and they still never take you to the point where that's where he is in his life.

SPEAKER_01 53:18

I just I feel like they're going to.

SPEAKER_03 53:21

They have to.

SPEAKER_01 53:21

I haven't looked up. That's a great point. It's gotta be intentional. They wouldn't just drop the ball like that and be like, oh yeah, I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_03 53:29

Yeah, because then his if presumably his wife and daughter are together, how?

SPEAKER_01 53:35

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 53:35

Okay, we can both okay. Event Horizon.

SPEAKER_01 53:37

I feel so here's the thing. They left a lot of space after he got we're we're just really going for it on the spoilers. After he got, I guess, um apprehended in the airport, yeah. They and then his wife like they never reunited after they we don't know what happened between that and the bomb.

SPEAKER_03 53:55

Okay, that makes sense. So that could have been a time where that's my take on it.

SPEAKER_01 54:01

I don't I don't know. It's a great question, though. We talk later. Okay. All right. I've been wondering the same thing for what it's worth.

Event Horizon: Cast & Director Background

SPEAKER_03 54:06

Okay. Thank you everyone for I think so. And thanks everybody for bearing with us. Now we're ready to talk about Event Horizon. What year was Event Horizon?

SPEAKER_01 54:14

Event Horizon was uh made in 1997. Tell us I saw it pretty much right when it came out.

SPEAKER_03 54:20

Tell us who are the famous people in it.

SPEAKER_01 54:23

Oh, I'm glad you asked. Well, first of all, it was directed by not Paul Thomas Anderson, but Paul W. S. Anderson. Do you know Paul Thomas Anderson? I bet you have you seen Boogie Knights?

SPEAKER_03 54:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 54:37

He directed Boogie Knights among many, many other movies. He's like a super high caliber director. There will be blood. We talked about that. Okay. So uh Magnolia. He anyways. He is not related at all to Paul W.S. Anderson, who did also really great movies. Like, well, I actually love the movie Soldier. It's a Kurt Russell movie. Do you remember that one where he Is he a doll? No, no, no, no, no. That's Tommy Lee Jones and that's Small Soldiers.

SPEAKER_03 55:06

Okay. Soldier is No, no, I'm thinking of the Arnold Schwarzenegger Jingle all the way? Is that where he's a toy?

SPEAKER_01 55:14

We're getting way off the top.

SPEAKER_03 55:15

Sorry! You like that. I do, but I'm not the one who's supposed to be doing it.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

I'm trying to think, I had a list of uh all the Paul W. S. Aderson movies on the Soldier. It doesn't matter. Most of them aren't good. But yeah, Soldier is great. I love Soldier. It has a movie.

SPEAKER_03 55:32

And he did do Event Horizon?

SPEAKER_01 55:33

He did Event Horizon. A lot of people consider it to be his best movie.

SPEAKER_03 55:36

Probably.

SPEAKER_01 55:37

He did Mortal Kombat. Remember that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:40

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 55:41

He did uh all the Resident Evil movies. He's actually married to Mila Jovovich.

SPEAKER_03 55:46

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 55:47

He did all right there.

SPEAKER_03 55:48

I'd say so.

SPEAKER_01 55:49

She's fine.

SPEAKER_03 55:50

She's probably a little more than fine. Um to me, I'll just say, speaking of oh, well, tell us the rest of the celebrities.

SPEAKER_01 56:00

Well you got um you got Sam Neal.

SPEAKER_03 56:02

Dr.

SPEAKER_01 56:02

Grant, Dr.

SPEAKER_03 56:02

Grant, who I have thenceforth will be referring to as Dr. Grant for the rest of this episode.

SPEAKER_01 56:07

Lawrence Fishburn.

SPEAKER_03 56:09

Morpheus.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

Morpheus or uh Cowboy Curtis, if you'd like.

SPEAKER_03 56:14

Oh my gosh, I forgot about that. Was that Larry Fishburn days?

SPEAKER_01 56:18

That uh yeah, it was actually.

SPEAKER_03 56:20

Had to be.

SPEAKER_01 56:21

Back in like uh Did you ever see King in New York?

SPEAKER_03 56:24

Nah, I don't who's in that.

SPEAKER_01 56:27

Um I don't think I have, just go on. Okay, Frank White. Uh John would like that joke. Okay. Um there's a biggie tie-in there. Thank you. Um Apocalypse Apocalypse Now.

SPEAKER_03 56:40

Apocalypse.

SPEAKER_01 56:41

Papa Lips. Apocalypse. Was he in Band of the Hand?

SPEAKER_03 56:44

Don't know.

SPEAKER_01 56:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 56:46

Go on. From Morpheus.

SPEAKER_01 56:49

Uh, you got what's his name? Jason Isaacs?

SPEAKER_03 56:52

Which one was he?

SPEAKER_01 56:52

Well, that would be uh uh speaking of Harry Potter. What's his face? The long white-haired guy.

SPEAKER_03 56:59

He's a Oh, uh Lucius Malfoy?

SPEAKER_01 57:02

Yes, that's Lucius Malfoy.

SPEAKER_03 57:03

Which one?

SPEAKER_01 57:04

The the the guy who wanted to hold up a he had knives and needles to everybody's neck the entire time.

SPEAKER_03 57:10

Trauma?

SPEAKER_01 57:11

The doctor.

SPEAKER_03 57:11

They called him trauma.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

Was that it? Is that what they called him?

SPEAKER_03 57:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:14

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:15

Are you kidding? We have to watch it again.

SPEAKER_01 57:17

D uh DJ.

SPEAKER_03 57:18

I wish you would have said that.

SPEAKER_01 57:19

You didn't know?

SPEAKER_03 57:20

No, I had no idea.

SPEAKER_01 57:21

Oh, yeah. The acting in this movie was amazing. Yeah. This movie did not deserve the cast it had.

SPEAKER_03 57:29

No. That's true. That's very true. They did their best with what they had to work with. Honestly.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

You got, I mean, there are a couple, I mean, uh, what's her face? Uh she's uh pretty uh Kathleen Kathleen Quinlan. She was in um Oh I'm not gonna come up with it. I'll bliss off. But you got Jolie Richardson, uh Stark. She's the one who um I know I put it somewhere in my notes. She's the one who kept getting knocked out. She got she was asleep five separate times in this movie. She got knocked out three times on screen, she and then she was put into stasis twice.

SPEAKER_02 58:07

She spent almost his whole time falling asleep in some way, shape, or form.

SPEAKER_01 58:13

I mean, falling asleep and getting knocked on the head or exploding as a You got uh Richard T. Jones, Cooper. He was not in much. He was fine.

SPEAKER_03 58:22

He's the uh He was the one that he was the one that wanted to didn't want to go on, he wanted to get out of there, right?

SPEAKER_01 58:28

No. Well Oh, was he kind of the jokester ego in Yeah, he he he was uh he just kept coming back. Like he lived. He's one of the few that lived. You got uh Mr. Justin, Jack Noseworthy. Wow. And uh and then Sean Pertwee was Smith. Um the I guess was he British?

SPEAKER_03 58:51

Yeah, I know which one you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 58:52

Every every one of those, like I I can't say anything bad about any of those actors.

SPEAKER_03 58:56

No, they know they all did their they all did their best.

SPEAKER_01 58:58

The script was not great. The premise was I in my opinion great. I love this premise.

SPEAKER_03 59:05

Alright, so let's break it down.

SPEAKER_01 59:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 59:06

Synopsis time.

SPEAKER_01 59:08

Yeah, let's do it. You're good at that.

SPEAKER_03 59:10

Okay, so Distant Future, that year 2000. A lot of flag of concords making an appearance today.

SPEAKER_01 59:17

Also Conan uh the Conan show.

SPEAKER_00 59:19

Oh in the year 2000, I don't actually know that. I'm just joining in.

SPEAKER_01 59:25

Oh, you don't? Oh, they used to have all the Conan O'Brien show back in like after 2000. They would do like this like futuristic session with the but it'll always start with in the year 2000. But it'd be like 2003.

SPEAKER_03 59:44

Okay. Okay. So in the distant future where they've there's a um well, I don't know if it's interstellar space, but they give us a lot of dates in the beginning. Interuniverse.

SPEAKER_01 59:54

Right after the lamest opening credits of all time.

SPEAKER_03 59:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:57

They're pretty weak. Quick, quick. I wanted to see. It made me think of Doctor Who, and then I was like, Doctor Who had better credits.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:02

I should at least really remember the credits to this.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:06

It's just like a spinning blues.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:08

Oh, we got kind of sick.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:11

Let me just say there's gonna be a few things I'm gonna say today that are really gonna age me. Number one, watching the television made me feel like throwing up. Number two, I feel as though this must be um because of my age, but man, this feels like a a 90s movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:29

Oh, yeah, it does.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:30

Like Independence Day, Jurassic Park, Sphere, um all those types of movies that came out, like this big summer blockbuster-y feeling kind of movies.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:44

I was getting a lot of sphere. A lot of sphere.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:46

I really got a lot of sphere when they went to the heart of the ship. I was like, oh, is this a sphere? Totally. Yeah. Okay, anyway. Um, so this crew, this ash crew of astronauts, space astronauts?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:01

Um smokers?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:02

Yeah, they're all smoking on it. Can you smoke in space?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:05

2047, it's back.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:07

I guess you can do whatever you want. You guys, that's only 21 years from now. If you would like it's back, people are smoking, and I didn't even think about that. They're vaping. It'll be if they redo this movie, they'll just be vaping.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:21

Seriously.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:22

But also, like, I feel like you shouldn't.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:23

I feel like there's gotta be like Zen cans everywhere floating.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:27

And like people spit, they're just glops of Zen spit.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:30

You don't have to spit uh Zens.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:33

Anyway, so these guys, so these astronauts are on this top secret mission, and they are put under, so they're sleeping in water baths, which seems really weird. Because what if something goes wrong with their tubing and now they're just gonna breathe in this water and drown? We don't know how they're gonna do it in 21 weeks 21 years. I'm not really sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:53

I'm sure Jason Isaacs knew. I'm sure he put him in some sort of little spell. I he really did. He put he's like uh what's her face? Stark, the the sleepy sleepy dwarf.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:08

Sleepy.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:15

Yeah. Yeah. Something up to somebody's neck.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:17

Anyway, these people are they come up, they wake up out of their stasis and they all drain out of their little tubes.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:24

They want they gotta eat they're naked, but they gotta get right to work.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:27

They gotta get right to work, put their clothes on and report. And Dr. Grant shows up.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:32

What's the coffee uh quote?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:36

I don't know why you can't say that on here.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:38

Do you think they ended up uh hooking up? I bet they definitely did. They had to have.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:42

They would have been alone for a long time after that. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:44

Cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:45

Anyway, they wake up, they get briefed, debriefed, briefed by Dr. Grant from Jurassic Park.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:51

And I wrote, it's good to see he's still working. Good to see Dr. Grant.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:54

Well, we watched Hunt for the Wilder people. You remember that movie? It's uh New Zealand.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:00

Um gosh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:01

The movie was great. You didn't like it?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:03

Yeah, I liked it, but was it the one where they thought he was like abusing those kids? Yeah, okay, that's the one. Yeah, that was a great movie. Was he in that? Yeah. Okay. Was he was that between Jurassic Park and Horizon?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:15

That was probably less than 10 years ago.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:17

Okay, well that's what I'm saying. I was just saying I was glad to see that Dr. Grant's still working.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:23

In 1997? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:24

Okay. So he's moved from dinosaurs to space. So he's a uh he tells them that they're on a super secret mission because one of the um a ship from uh one of the fleets went missing and they actually had and it like was silent for several years and then they and they got a signal coming from it, so now they're gonna go try to um get it, find it, and see what happened to it or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:48

First ship to do uh faster than light travel.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:50

Yeah. And it was outside of Neptune's between after like between Neptune, I guess, and the non-planet of Pluto.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:59

Yes. I'm I'm I'm starting to get uh the Resident Alien uh episode we watched last night confused with it. Well, he's talking about Uranus. He's like, that's actually a transit station. It's not a moon. Anyways.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:13

So then they're all mad because they don't want to do it because something bad ha obviously happened to you.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:19

I love how they all get up from the table.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:21

And he's like, sit back down.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:23

I wrote down, yeah, yeah, we got fish for it. I wrote down where where were they gonna go? Well, they just be like, now we're and they're just gonna turn the ship around for going home.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:31

Or slam the slam their bedroom shuttle door that's like, like you can't slam any doors on a ship.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:37

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:37

There's gonna smoke more.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:38

Yeah, there's just a lot of smoking to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:40

So they so he reveals to them in one of my favorite things from any movie is whenever someone in the movie is explaining physics and quantum, whatever, like English, yeah, science and math, and they're just like and he's saying, and I'm sure what he's saying probably makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

I mean I recognize I recognize the words from my yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:01

So basically he's the one that invented the event horizon's drive ability to travel like that. And so he basically reveals to them that he found a way to create a fake black hole, an artificial black hole. So then they're extra mad because they don't want to go near a black hole. Um but then they end up coming across the ship, which is called Horizon.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:24

By the way, can I just back up a little bit? Please do. I think before this it was revealed uh that they played some of the recording from the from the log, and it was where the Latin came in.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:42

Yeah. One of these seven random people knows Latin. Yeah, but well Well was he, Doctor?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:47

But you have like the greatest top secret government minds in the world working on this project. Jason Isaac recognizes if I knew Latin, I would have recognized it too. It was like, how do you guys not know that this was Latin? You came like did you just find this and you just kept this for yourself, Dr. Grant?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:05

So they discover the ship.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:07

I did really I do love this movie. This is the third time I've watched it.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:09

Really?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:10

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:11

Um they find the ship, so they decide of course they do to board the ship. And they get on there and they see they discover some carnage.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:24

Some, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:25

Some carnage.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:28

And then Lawrence Fishburg is like the ship is a doom. They only see And then a hand like floats in his face. Very on the nose. Little silly jump scares like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:39

But my favorite part is it's just like it might as well be a horror movie because the very first thing they do is split up. Yeah. Like they send half the crew onto the ship and they won't let the doctor who designed the ship go on them.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:51

First they point out did a very handy job of foreshadowing with some explosives. That's right. We'll check off some explosives.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:57

See now, see these explosives lining the hallway? These will be back.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:00

Aren't they cool?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:01

Aren't they neat? Um and so they send the youngest and um probably the most inexperienced person on the crew, the young 20-something Mr. Justin. Mr. Justin. Why do they keep calling him that? I kept feeling like he was like a daycare teacher. Like Mr. Justin.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:21

Or Mr. Justin, Justin, baby bear. Or Mama Bear. Yeah. Was Kathle Kathleen Quinlan's character. Kept calling him where she's yelling. We're jumping ahead, but he's in an airlock. Yeah, she's yelling, Justin, Justin. Leslie's like, why isn't she yelling Mr. Justin? Mr.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:42

Justin. Mr. Justin. Well, there was other times where uh Morpheus was Hey, Mr. Because I wrote down like he had a gratuitous use of the word mister. But he was also like their commander, like their ranking officer of all the Mr.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:58

Justin sort of looks like Mr. Peepers.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:00

Yeah, he was like baby. And so anyway, they send him into the most important part of the ship.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:06

The core.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:06

The core, the heart of the ship. That would give me that was the sphere by the way.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:10

Justin Hoffman was there waiting for him.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:11

He was, and he was like, here, put this underwater suit on. And then they put uh then he got sucked in. And so that's all, you know, and he was tethered with a tether, so that's right.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:23

We're supposed to assume he saw some stuff.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:25

Yeah. So they go get him, he comes out, and he's eyes are open, but he's not responding to anything.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:30

Pretty catatonic with the word. Sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:33

So then things just start taking a turn and people start seeing stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:40

Seeing stuff, seeing dead little Danny.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:43

Like her son.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:44

With the maggot legs.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:45

Yeah, with the big sores on his legs. And then they all have like ghosts from their past, you know, like skeletons on the buttons.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:51

I thought it was kind of nice that she made a big deal about wanting to go back and see her son, and how she got put on. She got to see him trying to see him. It's like twice.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:01

She died trying to see him.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:03

Yeah. It was kind of cool. They got to be together. Very sweet.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:05

Yeah. It was it was a little cheesy.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:08

So it's a little, so there's like a little psychological thriller element to it because you're like, Oh, yeah. At first you you don't know, or like what are they seeing? Which that's very sphere too, because they were seeing stuff in sphere.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:19

Yeah. A bit more of an aquatic uh themed thing. This is underwater. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:26

Right. Right. These guys are in outer space. Outer space? Inner space. They're in our solar system.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:33

Is that a corrections corner?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:34

I guess we'll find out. Um so anyway, they're so then their ship gets blown up when they get Justin out. The ship they rode in on the Lewis and Clark.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:47

Mm-hmm. Gets wrecked pretty bad. Right? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:51

So they're like, crap, what are we gonna do? So they so then Morpheus makes everyone get on the scary ship. Morpheus. I told you, I don't know what his name was on there. Who cares? You are forever the first movie I saw you in. Forever.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:03

His name is Captain Miller.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:05

Captain Miller.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:06

I l I love Lawrence Fishman in this movie, by the way. He has some of the greatest lines in any movie ever.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:11

What was a couple of them? I didn't write any of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:13

I can't say one of them because it's a family ship, but it's a family ship.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:16

Here we are. On his family ship.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:21

But after the family, after the family Gorgie.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:25

When he's like, we're leaving. He's just like, and then as he's walking down the hallway, he's like, F this ship. Like the way he said it.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:35

He was probably channeling like he was probably channeling real life annoyances.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:39

Well, he just yeah. Real life what?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:40

Annoyances at the script. And he was probably like secretly thinking like F this movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:45

I need to use something to motivate this line. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:49

So yeah, so they have to like try to fix their ships so they can get out of there. And they only have 20 hours of air on the event horizon.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:56

And then they're all seeing more and more stuff. The captain's like, you start to wonder, what's his deal? Is he just a coward? That's Sam Neil. Not Captain, sorry, the doctor.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:04

The uh physicist, the Dr. Grant. Dr. Grant.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:07

Yeah. Um you start to wonder, is he just, is it just crazy denial? Is he just in denial? Like like in um oh Chernobyl. Oh yeah, where he's just like the lead doctor. Oh, lead science.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

He's like, no, this isn't happening.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:20

Yeah. He's like, that's impossible. That's scientifically impossible.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:23

Gaslighting everyone on the ship.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:25

Exactly. Um but you you find out later that he was probably just possessed and he's so can I ask a question about that?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:35

So at the I mean, at the very, very beginning, it opens with him long before they ever have contact with Event Horizon.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:42

With his wife.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:43

Having dreams. And he saw the ship. That's what you see first is the Event Horizon.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:47

You're right.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:48

Because I was like, what is that? Then and then when you see the Event Horizon, you're like, oh, that was the ship from his dream at the very, very beginning, and he's like freaking out when he comes out of stasis, and they haven't even been there. So my question is, was he already influenced or possessed in some way? Are we just are we supposed to wonder that?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:07

Because his wife didn't have she was missing eyes, wasn't she? Was she missing eyes in the first scene?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:13

I think so. She was not well. If she had eyes, it didn't matter because she was not well in that scene.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:19

She. I don't know. How would he have been? I give what you're saying.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:24

Well, because he created it.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:26

Yeah. So I don't know. Testing or something. I think we're just supposed to speculate. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:31

So yeah, and like if the um the heart of the ship has these three spinning rings, and whenever they all three line up together, then that's when bad stuff happens.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:40

That's when the uh the portals opened.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:42

The portal opens to this chaos. Yes. It's Stargate, another nineties movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:50

It's all three of those.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:51

Yeah. But isn't it also that's a nineties movie too, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:54

Yeah, Kurt Russell.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:55

Stargate was my dad. I bet my I bet that was my favorite dad. My dad's favorite movie. Stargate, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:01

I saw Star uh never mind, doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:04

I love Stargate.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:05

Do you see it at my house?

unknown 1:13:06

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:06

Had you already seen it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:07

I might have seen Stargate and Soldier like within the same week. But could be wrong there. Anyways, continue.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:14

Um so anyway, one by one they all start dying off, basically.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:19

Not one by one, really, I guess kind of in a you know, for all the ways they could have died, they're all pretty. None of them were that bad. I mean, Jason Isaacs got basically gutted and exploded, but he took him out in the neck first and then did all that stuff to his body.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:35

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:36

Yeah. They also they like the possessed ones turn on each other, kind of.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:40

Well, really, Dr. Grant, I guess, is the only real bad one. And like poor old Justin's possessed, but then he like wakes up from it. And also, did Morpheus think he was gonna Oh, I guess he did save him.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:52

Yeah, he did. He did. That was kind of a cool scene.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:55

It was. I wanted him to jam himself in the leg like uh what's her face from um uh Expanse.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:01

In Expanse, yeah. Yeah, I can't I don't remember her name. Me either. She was a belt a lot. She was a belt alada. She was cool. Um yeah, it uh there was uh there were explod you know, my favorite space trope is uh from Star Trek. They had in this the exploding battle stations. It's like whenever they're in a fight in Star Trek, like the first thing to explode is the computer they're standing on.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:26

Oh, right, yeah, yes. Like, why is that why is that going on?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:30

Somebody really needs to their network guy really needs to step in. Could turn that switch off. It's uh they have that in that in this though. And the battle stations themselves look what do we say they look like? Like Mrs. Pac-Man pedestal.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:44

Yeah, they look like those Pizza Hut tables. Those the Pac-Man, Mrs. Pac-Man, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:50

The air hockey tables look like the uh the medical bay.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:53

They were the medical bay, but they look like air hockey tables. The ones that like you go to like an arcade in place so that they have like protective glass. The really nice ones.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:00

The plexi glass over there with the black light?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:02

Yes. Yeah. Those are sick.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:04

Yeah, they are.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:04

How can the one we have doesn't look like that?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:06

I don't know, because I don't think we paid$2,000 for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:09

Oh, you bet you can get one of those for$2,000?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:11

I don't know how much they're. That's a good question. Correct's corner.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:16

And my favorite, very favorite thing is that even though it was a really small cast, so everyone had a you know, essentially a bigger-ish part, the two that you would have thought were gonna get off at the beginning, like expendables, were the two that lived.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:32

And I was like, I know that doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:35

Three, really.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:36

Oh, that's true. Mr. Justin. Mr. Justin was.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:38

We made it too. Although, man, what kind of life is he living?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:41

No eyes.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:42

No eyes puking uh blood. Puking blood.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:46

A blood was coming out of every hole.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:48

Yeah. Why would they save him? They should have let him die.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:51

He didn't have eyes, did he? Did he lose his eyes? So he's in the airlock and he's like, Well, they were bleeding out for him.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:57

Remember, he had his hands over his eyes and blood was just like floating all around him. Remember when he was in the airlock and they were for some time. Well, uh for some reason I wrote, Looks like we found him just in time. Did you write that? Did you say that? Sidebar story. One time one of our children was it Caroline that found Lopan?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:18

Our dog Lopan, David Lopan. Comment if you know who that is. Um he uh had snuck up to our infant child's room and was eating a poopy diaper, like all already eating, consuming the poop from the diaper. And our daughter, who was like four, came down and she was like, Looks like we found him just in time. And then another thing was, I wanted to ask you if they filmed it in space.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:54

Clark Arsenal asked if Star Wars was filmed in space.

Event Horizon: The Gorgy, Lost Footage & 90s Sci-Fi

SPEAKER_03 1:16:57

We were watching Star Wars, and after the opening sequence, he was like 13. He was four at the time. After the opening sequence, he was like, So, was this filmed in space? Like the sweetest thing ever. No, you idiot. So, yeah, basically they have to blow up the ship with those aforementioned.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:19

So they see the captain's log. They finally see the footage.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:22

Oh, and he's they're just he's tearing them up.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:24

So that scene.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:26

That was the gorgy.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:27

That was the gorgy. That scene was there's a so the original cut.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:31

What does the G stand for in Gorgie again?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:34

Gore.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:34

Gore.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:35

The original cut is like 30 or 40 minutes longer. And it it has a very extended version of this scene that you know, there's all sorts of lore around it that like people were passing out and like the the pilot uh what do they call it? The test, you know, the test one test screening.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:57

You know, where they get like the initial impressions of everybody has to sign a non-disclosure kind of thing. Oh, oh yeah. Um paran people were getting sick, like Paramount Studios was just like up in arms because it was just so awful. Like, like they hired, they hired like porn stars to be like it was just this really depraved scene.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:16

Like really?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:17

Yeah, like super hardcore, like I was late to what you were saying. Very hard R sex stuff, very hard R violent, and like extended scene, really, really disturbing stuff. And apparently it's now in a uh Transylvanian salt mine. So apparently that's like a like a legitimately a place where a lot of people do store vintage film because it's so dry.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:42

Oh not like Johns Hopkins medical reference.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:48

I mean, who actually knows? Um could be that. But it could be that, but apparently it's this this footage is just like really, really like it's a very gory movie, obviously. Extremely gory, but apparently it was way worse.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:04

That's really gross. I didn't realize that. I really pick up that that was actually what was happening in that scene. I wondered why they were all naked, but they were just it was just violent.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:14

Didn't they say he said like you killed uh what did he say, you killed everybody? Or your ship killed everybody, like your ship killed the crew, or did he I either wrote I I think I actually wrote down in a gore orgy, but I don't think he actually said that. Never mind, scratch that. No, there was definitely some I missed that. Definitely some adult.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:32

I was probably like taking some cute notes about Mr. Justin. Um a lot of the doors in the ship were shaped like coffins, so that was ominous.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:42

Yeah, especially little little Danny. He was running around though. She got to see him with legs. I know, she was lucky. I don't understand the big deal.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:51

I don't know why she was so upset.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:54

Her death was pretty gross. I mean, she fell a bunch of stories.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:58

Oh yeah, and she kind of did like a goldfish on Flyland sort of uh broke all of her internal background. Yeah, it probably sucked a little bit. But she didn't get transferred to hell.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:08

I'm a sucker for a space movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:12

I just Especially like a scary one. You know, I love the folding space-time and half that simple explanation and it goes through.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:22

Well, I love the anytime that's because space just it does seem like I would I wouldn't want to travel in space. And so watching a movie where like terrible things are happening to people in space seems very realistic to me. Like it would be awful. There's no sun, there's no fresh air, everything's recycled, everything, water's reir. Ugh, I can't. I would never. And so it is very unsettling to me already to think about being in space. And like on an airplane, I have to shut that part of my brain off. So I it feels like, yeah, this could happen. This might as well be a non-fiction retelling of a real thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:00

I mean, we talked a lot about flatland and other dimensions and stuff. I mean, uh shoot. Yeah, what I mean, probably probably closer to reality.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:10

What was the The Expanse did an excellent job of capturing like the loneliness of space?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:15

Space, yeah, it's the desolation. Yeah. Did you know that um Tommy Lee Jones, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Bruce Willis all turned down the Captain Miller role? Can you imagine this with Schwarzenegger?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:30

I was just about to say it'd be a very different movie. It'd be silly. It would be so campy.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:35

I mean, it's already a cult classic. It would be a it'd be a top-tier cult classic. It'd be like Running Man in Space with Oh my gosh. Have you ever seen Running Man?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:44

No, I don't think I have.

Event Horizon: Ending Theories & Final Thoughts

SPEAKER_01 1:21:45

Oh wow, we gotta watch that one. Uh Rob, take a note. You're putting that in. Um What else? Any other do we want to talk? Did we finish the recap?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:58

Well, okay, so basically they have to get off the ship, and of course, Dr. Grant is resisting them at every step. Finally, Miller, Morpheus slash Miller, he realizes he's gonna have to blow up the tube that connects the two halves of the ship so they can get into the escape half.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:18

By the way, the the entrance to the or maybe this is the entrance to the core, but that spinny have you been on a bunch of rides that have that?

SPEAKER_03 1:22:26

Yeah, but is that um from Space Mountain. Yes, Space Mountain. Yes. Feels like a Space Mountain.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:31

Space Mountain, it just came to me.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:33

Yeah. Okay, anyways, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:34

You felt very carnival-y.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:36

Like not real believable. Like, why?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:39

Did did the Matterhorn have something like that? I've never been on the Matterhorn. I think it did. Never been to Disneyland. Okay, forget it.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:44

Um, yeah, I I also wonder why, and this is every spaceship ever in the history of spaceship design in movies, but like, why does everything have to be black and dark and like I understand that material is it looks like a Klingon ship. And it's like they could choose to paint it light because guess what's always light and bright in ships? The kitchen and the bedrooms. Like they're all they do always like.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:10

I mean, maybe they're it's because of the like you're talking, yeah, you're talking paint color, not lighting. But like they could low energy or something.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:17

Yeah, it's like they make it look as horrible as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:20

Well they added that faux finish of like it looked like guts all over the wall.

unknown 1:23:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:24

Yeah, why would they do that? Was that why don't you just get like nice Venetian plasters? Yeah, really.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:29

A Limewash.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:31

Totally though. It's there's a lot of stuff like that that's just the what'd they have, 20 hours of air? Yep. Like well, I probably don't don't don't need to open this up, but how much air do they have in their spacesuits? And how much air did they have? How'd they get back? Did they so they had 25 things of little tubes of air together? Right, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:54

Well those were like those were like per uh filters. They needed those filters.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:59

But they also lost half of the crew, so the meth checkout.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:02

Sure it does. It's movie science match.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:04

Cool, cool. Just make sure we're we're okay with this. With the ending.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:08

So anyway, Dr. Miller has to sacrifice himself because he ends up in the wrong side of the tube that's blowing up. Fighting Dr. Grant.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:16

Mm-hmm. That was a very like you remember the movie Sunshine?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:20

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:22

Yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:23

Oh, where he was the sunshine. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:26

That reminded me a bit of that.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:27

Yeah. Like superpower.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:29

No. That movie, that movie could have been so disappointed. I didn't like that the way it ended. The first half of that movie was awesome. The second half is just like, what?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:36

Yeah. Like in the or like in that giant room where people just kept burning alive. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:41

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, sorry we if we spoiled that. I don't think that's a big spoiler.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:46

Good luck even finding a copy of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:48

That's true.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:48

Challenge.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:49

Oh. Hi. Hi. Okay, so, anyways, they blow it up. They blow it up. He gives, he sacrifices his life. Oh, Katha Miller. Morpheus. And the three get away.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:06

Yep. And then she has a dream where it's they get saved, but it's it's Dr. Grant with no eyes. By the way, he loses his eyes about three-quarters of the way through the movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:19

He takes him, he removes them himself.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:22

And she's basically having a uh this a similar experience as Dr. Grant had at the very beginning of the movie, where she has a bad dream and she wakes up in her stasis thing, and then right at the last second the water drains out and she doesn't drown. That's what happens to him at the beginning.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:37

Here's a theory that probably holds no water, but it just popped in my head. What if they just keep reliving this in a loop? They've already been they're they're just waking up every time. Remember, except that was more human manufacture, but you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:00

What if they all died when Justin came in and out? Yeah and the rest of the movie was just them in the chaos dimension. We're probably giving it way more credit than that to do.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:13

It has this weird ambiguous ending when it's a good thing. It does.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:16

Which I like that. It's very unsettling and sad.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:18

What was the other what other movies can we spoil? What's the movie in the what's uh I'm not gonna go into the details of the ending, but it had two endings. And there's the one with the girls in the cave.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:31

Won't say anything else. But um I didn't I look to see if there's like an alternative ending to this. Like if there was an ending where they just ended with Sam Neil in his Islas state.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:42

And he was the victor.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:43

But instead they, you know, they have I mean that's kind of the way Nightmare on Elm Street sort of ends.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:50

Uh I've never seen that.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:54

There's a Friday the 13th in March if you want to watch it.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:57

Somebody's mom gets pulled into a door and a we're uh forget it.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:01

I'm saying I've never seen it. I would like to see it.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:03

Watch Nightmare on Elm Street?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:04

Yeah. I think my my sister said we that they have the same couch we used to have.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:09

Shoot. That's I don't need a better reason.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:11

It was a couch with goose fabric and it was a pull out.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:15

Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:16

I'm gonna see if I can find a picture of that for the Instagram.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:19

Do you want to talk anymore about oh Prodigy was on this? The credits at the end. Did you ever listen to Prodigy?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:28

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:28

They're like a like a hardcore techno group in the late 90s.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:34

What were they? Were they the song in the credits?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:37

Yeah, it's Funky SH is the name of the song. Okay. Yeah, it's not the greatest song in the world.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:46

I don't know. If you like anything even halfway r related to what we've talked about, you'll enjoy sitting down for an hour and a half. It's not even that long.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:53

No. It's a quick watch. It's yeah, it moves fast.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:56

It's not for kids. Well you always say

SPEAKER_01 1:28:00

that I know just to get you to say that. It's uh I love it. It's it's a it's a I love it for all of its faults and all of its horizons. Honestly it doesn't really have it's not that a lot of plot holes or anything. It it's not too bad.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:14

And it definitely wasn't like we we had theories about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:17

It could have been it could have been incredible. Like if you had a really good writer on it a really good script writer and a lot of great direction. It was rushed because like Paramount was I guess trying to get Titanic going. Oh so like the editing was only like I have a question. It just everything was was rushed and cut and it was kind of a bomb it flopped in the uh the movie I think it already no way kept just kept exploding in mind.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:45

Given all these like 90s scientist actor characters okay do we have any of those people like is there equivalent like I feel like that was like a time like that was a stamp of the era like the the the scientist the would you consider them like a cool scientist? Well like there was just so many movies where like there was kind of a scientist was like the protagonist or the main character in the 90s. Or like science was kind of the thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:14

No I know I definitely know what you're talking about. And like I don't know that we're not in that type of a movie. No I I yeah I mean you have like the last grade one was like junior and uh Schwarzenegger I was like what did you ever see that?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:33

No is that the one that uh is it a baby? Yeah he has the baby yeah I saw that in the theater when you're a teenager man you'll go see whatever you want no you don't care what it is. That's true.

Bill Withers & Still Bill Album Discussion

SPEAKER_01 1:29:45

I remember I watched uh King Ralph and Awakenings in the same day what a what a day I saw Sphere with a bunch of friends I don't think I saw Sphere until it was out on the uh on the VHS on the VHS maybe DVD even on the what does VHS stand for? Vehicular homicidal screening corgi sorgy my C's and my S's get messed up in acronyms they're very similar sounds vehicular homicidal they can sound they can have the same sound speaking of vehicular homicidal we should watch maximum overdrive sometime is that the one where the truck is the killer yeah well the trucks are the killer so you might be thinking of dual which is uh or Christine that's another that's a Stephen King uh with boner from Growing Pains I can say it because it's his name good job you said it all great movies I'll watch all of them awesome we should we ought to transition soon because we are at two hours I mean we're at it 90 minutes sorry that's what I meant to say okay okay so we've been recording for two hours yeah yeah that's good this is a good time to move yeah let's uh move on to use me by Bill Withers Bill Withers 1972 off of the album Still Bill which I listened to uh quite a bit this week did it have anything on the elsewhere on there there that I would know is Ain't no sunshine on there it's not no that was uh the album before does he sing Grandma's hands he does is that on there no lean on me is on here oh um did he write that song yeah wow I'm well shooting I'm almost positive he did um I feel like it's really taken a turn he's gotta be the coolest freaking singer songwriter of all time he's great the funkiest one maybe Stevie Wonder yeah Stevie Wonder's great too they're different though Stevie Wonder's a bit poppier but I'm trying to I was trying to think of other like funky singer songwriters that just the two are almost it's kind of a weird little Erica Badu she wrote her own songs she's not quite the same genre but she's certainly not like a folk I don't know I don't know I don't know I most of the Erica Badu stuff I've listened to has been like her on other people's stuff yeah um she may come up later again we'll see anyways uh so this is on now still Bill what else is on there uh who is he and what is he to you the dad gummet song oh you were listening to that the other day Rob's dad says dad gummet and now Rob says it and it it's cringy people hated people hate that word I got punched in the back of the head one time for saying it where at in high school I said dad gummet this kid uh used to Randy he was actually a really cool guy but um he hated it and he told me over and over again please stop saying that and I would just say dad gummit and one time he just got gets up from he just gets up from his desk traumatic relationship with that work we were in art class he walks around the table and just pop smacks me in the back of the head did he get in trouble?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:54

No the teacher was probably like actually Randy I hate it too I know you get it when it works but uh I never said Dad Gumman again until we got married and now you just say more and more every year.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:06

Maybe you know what you have to do now. You said I say it more and more every year?

SPEAKER_03 1:33:10

Yeah. Do I yes Dad Gum I don't ever remember you saying it in the early years of our marriage.

Use Me: Song Structure & Music Theory Breakdown

SPEAKER_01 1:33:16

Does Jamie the one who hates it like hates it hates it? Does she like really hate it? I don't know. There's some there's a there's a woman in our life who really hates the word daggum it might be my mom poor Jerry. So I said uh we're we're listening poor Jerry she has to live with Bruce and he's daggum it all the time we were listening to um I was listening to Still Bill picking up Clark the album this is on and that song came on and I said I almost wanted to cover that song. That song's sweet this whole album is great. I think I'll have to listen to it I think honestly I think I'll like I love this album it's so good. I think I like it better than his greatest hits to be honest with you it's it's anyways and I'm I'm really puffing it up but I said to Clark this has grandpa Gruce's favorite favorite word on it and he said what two dollar hot dog right away my dad's like a huge Costco fanboy too Kirkland Kirkland will you die Oh Clark I almost killed us all in the car almost crashed laughing yeah a laugh murder yeah but this was uh yeah like I said the um 103rd Street the Watts 103rd Street rhythm band did all all the stuff on this uh Ray Jackson was on keys Melvin was what I say there was a clavinova clavinova is there a clavinet too or Mike I don't know I've only ever heard the word clavinova that doesn't mean that the other clavas don't exist oh clavicol. Those do clavicol dude oh yeah girl melvin dunlap on the bass uh Norse Blackman on the guitar who was on the drums Joey Gladstone on the drums James Gatson was he the one that we saw in the video I who can know don't know that guy the drums dude the drums are so good on the you have to have them even though we don't I know I play I yeah we don't have to be percussive on the guitar try to be as percussive as possible actually I love playing that song because it's it's just two chords the whole time it's just uh E minor and A. And that's A.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:28

It's an A7. E an E minor seven and an A7.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:31

Yes. And it has a little Dorian flavor to it?

SPEAKER_03 1:35:36

Well it's a blues.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:37

Okay. So blues usually has a flat seven E natural minor would that be the I know you when you're playing it I'm I know I'm getting ahead of myself but when you're playing it I could if I we had like that little kind of jam session in the beginning I could go when I'm on the E7 so you could play the uh E minor pentatonic scale yeah through the whole song you could play but then you could play what I would call like a B minor scale or a D major scale through the A7 parts if that makes any sense. So I can kind of play the changes that way if you got a real feel for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:12

Well because they share key signature is that why they have some overlapping they don't they're not the same but they like a B minor and a D have the same key signature.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:22

Yes but but there's not a B minor or a D in the song no I I'm not telling you that because you didn't know I'm just saying for those at folks at home for somebody who just yeah for somebody who plays by ear and is just like that's weird that a D works here you know but only but only during the A7 part.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:42

But it does because of the E minor scale that they're using.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:48

Is it because is it because uh B minor is the second so I said Dorian which is two right so is it because a B minor is the second interval in an A s A major scale?

SPEAKER_03 1:37:05

Is that I mean that is that but I mean I don't know what the question is what is Y.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:09

Is that way I could play a D major scale or borrow from a D major scale I think the D major scale you can borrow from because of the E minor is Y Okay the baseline has a C sharp in it. I'm way in I'm I'm out of my depth there I don't know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:26

The baseline has a C sharp in it and in order to have a D scale you'd need that C sharp.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:30

A I yep real quick just real quick and I'll only be a minute okay um so when we're going uh so the whole time I could go but then when it's on the A7 I can go which is but I can only play that so if I'm going was that F sharp you just ended on that's the relative minor of A.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:07

That is F F s so that's the relative minor of A. Oh but if I'm playing uh if I'm going I guess I could sort of play that um so here's the thing I don't know if this is accurate or not but E minor seven and A major seven have so many overlapping tones that you could pretty much play. It doesn't it's not real locked in to a key. So I think there's a lot of freedom there and I think that's what makes it the blues style.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:40

On the live version we watched the guitar player was doing some uh I liked what he was doing. That was cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:45

He's not on the uh he was like up a third or a fifth or something from the bass line. It's kind of cool. Yeah yes that was especially toward the end he was kind of he was playing the the same pattern it was the same pattern but he was up the the uh harmonic interval yes that was really cool I have to listen to it again to see what it was but yeah anyway it's a great freaking song this is one of my I'm gonna see if I can find the video of you singing it in the Dominican Republic and put that up for the Instagram people to enjoy.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:10

Okay. I also did uh oh no oh no I have we could do oh no at some point oh no gul it in the big I don't know saying I did a good job but I did it they put me on the spot um this is one of the sickest beats I think I've ever heard in my life I mentioned the drums but I don't know why more hip hop songs aren't don't use this.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:35

How good is this?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:36

Well no why they don't use this is a perfect like I was oh why they're not sampling the reason I came with because I wanted to do I wanted to give me the loot I want to go family family make it available for that what do what do you mean like are they letting people yeah people do it like uh UGK is the only um you big UGK fan I love UGK Pimp C oh pimp pimp A B C Ben B Bun B um UGK uh has they're the only ones I could find that have that actually take basically do their rhymes on the on the song like that it has that don't know now no the song's called Use Me Up it's a little cruder captures the sec the sec the the the juiciness of this uh song because this is kind of a sexy song a little scandalous yeah we might lose our rating yeah but use me up they really they go for that that element of it they really go for that they try to like double down on it yeah they do they double down on the babies and the sweethearts Nas uses it um but it's they everybody just uses the drums Kendrick Lamar you uses it but it's all just I mean I'm not gonna say this for my cover but how sick would it be if Anderson Pack and Bruno Mars did a song. Well you just took my uh oh the Subsonic yeah um sorry no it's okay I actually had Anderson Pax come down for the B side I think is what it was what I'm gonna go with but I'll tell still tell you all the 16 that I didn't choose. Okay. Sorry about that but it's got the same kind of no that's fine. We're we're United That's true though the his drums are so tight tighter than uh the loser from the Elton John band. Well what I was gonna say was I can't say it.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:17

It's can I can I say tighter nope you cannot say it whatever it is you think you're gonna say I said no. It's from always Sunday in Philadelphia nope You can't say it I'm telling you no you asked me and I said no you guys can send a DM if you want to know Rob will take it to Rob of skin a type of skin okay D scan D skin stop saying it or I'll quit and walk away okay um what uh did you listen to any covers?

SPEAKER_01 1:41:47

Only the one you forced me to that was uh incredibly incredible it was great wasn't it it was like Lamar Lamala kick it was Lamar wait um Lamont Lamont Landers who's who's gonna win our nobody award I don't think like I mentioned yesterday I don't think he's gonna be a nobody for long our nobody award is anybody with less than 5000 subscribers um is going can is quite can qualify for the best cover of a nobody so he's uh that that whole cover was sick his keyboard player was the whole band was great he's got one of those one of those weird white guys who looks like a huge like looks like he can speak Klingon but he can sing like he's like kind of like our most recent band director and then Uncle Dan's friend Dan with a voice of an angel yeah he's got a great voice and great guitar player too yeah well that's what I meant by the by those two references two nerd references his keyboard player had a six solo which of course is a spot where Leslie said okay I've heard enough that's not exactly how that went but how did it go?

SPEAKER_03 1:43:01

It went it was a seven minute version I said from the beginning do we have to listen to the whole thing then once I heard the amount of music that you and I were planning to cover then I was no longer interested because I knew we weren't going to be doing that and that's the kind of person I am and if you don't like it then I guess you were in the right place because the show's called the audience won't like it I love it I do love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:26

It was great though they did a great job shout out hats off to Lamont Lamar you know who Lamont Landers who's the uh Revenge of the Nerds character don't know okay um I listened to a few other covers okay Hootie and the Bo Blowfish not bad really not bad pretty great actually I'll have to take a listen um a lot pretty similar to the original spit in his mouth no okay no it's actually one of the best I've ever heard of Darius Rucker.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:01

I was just supposed to that's Darius Rucker right he always sounds like he's got something in his cheeks to bear it out ring it out the dolphin's a Frank Dolphins made me cry he's got a little bit of that Eddie Vetter kind of ring it out McJagger and Lenny Kravitz did a cover.

Bill Withers Biography

SPEAKER_01 1:44:20

Not great I don't know I mean I love McJagger I don't know how many covers I've heard him do that I like they're just always so dumb so silly I love silly but they're like they're not in purpose silly I don't think no they're just not great have you heard dance into the street well you know you've talked about this before Uncle Dan uh is the one who introduced me to that Uncle Dan by the way has a good cover has a great cover of this he can sing the heck out of this song Smoke Sack Lightning. I've heard them do it multiple times really good really good Esther Phillips pretty different um kind of not very funky. Aaron Neville he did like a 90s version it's a little too I didn't love it a little too smooth. Grace Jones not good it was like a reggae new age version not good at all uh and Dolph Lundgren wasn't in it in the video so that kind of picked me off yeah uh Dolph Lundren was her her bodyguard he got uh she anyways we'll talk about it some other time uh kamiko kasai I said pretty solid the keys were really cool to the point where I looked up the keyboard player Serbie Hancock is a reason um Liza Manelli she may come up later was it good uh I I I put it in this giant list of covers I listened to today yeah later today how much sh in this in this in this giant list of covers I'd probably put her right in the middle D'Angelo that was great uh I think he actually played with the same drummer from the so from the song it was a live show oh gosh he's awesome that was a great that was I saw that was really good the JB's like uh James Brown's band with Fred Wesley pretty solid pretty good it was uh instrumental I was gonna say James Brown didn't sing it I can Tina Turner uh widespread panic and dirty does and brass that was a cool cover oh I bet yeah uh ultra funk uh that was a great instrumental had a nice I wrote slick jazz flute uh Sam Dew I didn't like it uh very whisper singing y I like the instrumental kind of dreamy and understated Algerot eh it was fine Adam Pierce the guy with the really long beautiful red hair I talked about last week that did Wildflowers oh he was great all right he uh he was awesome and Teddy Swims oh he's a good singer Teddy Swim's version was pretty good so Teddy Swims is a great great voice he says use me he said use me I don't like Teddy Swim's music it's so boring it's got a cool voice I like about some Chris Stableton too like they're not doing themselves justice with their songs their voices are so great but their songs are just like yeah I'm with you only stands this is the last one I'll talk about I know I don't I really cool it's a cool sound uh great musicians vocals were kind of different he sounds like a high high pitched like a soulful version of the Owl City singer yeah so it was weird it's a voice worth checking out though maybe maybe for you what's his name I don't know but the only stands okay instead of fans I guess he's probably he was probably only stands like a long time before only fans came out and now everybody's like oh like only fans if if I did yeah yeah if I didn't uh if I wasn't gonna give I may give uh I may give Lamont I may give him both both the nobody and the best cover but I might actually give it to either widespread 30 dozen because it's so different or um D'Angelo I'll give it to D'Angelo it was very much like the original but really good just great um you know what shoot I'm giving it to Uncle Dan all right Uncle Dan gets them all he gets them all okay um what else we want to get to our we gotta wrap up so okay cover silksonic oh can I just say real quick the name of the keyboard we're going to in Lamont Landers man Kevin Canada that's right it's like uh Robert California Kevin Canada okay okay shout out to Kevin Canada it took me a long time to find your name buddy right in sometime we're big fans I am less if I turned you off just kidnapped I thought you were great I went back and watched it later Rob doesn't know oh one thing one thing is that I freaking uh I've been saying for like the last 20 years one of my favorite things to say since we moved down here well however long that's been 14 was uh because you know Bill Withers was from West Virginia and I did not know that oh you didn't well I've been saying that he's a coal he was a coal miner technically I was right Bill Withers was a coal miner but that's Bill Withers senior his dad was a coal miner ah what was Bill Withers Bill Withers well first of all he was in the Navy for like nine years okay he didn't start his music career until I think he was 31. Yeah I was gonna say wasn't he like hustling like working hard yeah like a furniture delivery guy well that I don't know okay I'm not gonna say no he worked a lot of jobs somebody that I he was working as like an like a like a machine assembler or something like a factory job to the ain't no sunshine hit like it hit and he still kept his job To the point where on his album cover he's carrying his lunchbox because he said the music industry was just too flaky. He didn't want to trust him. He didn't want to quit his job. But then finally he got said I read in Wikipedia, I think it was, said he got two letters at the same day. One was um like a McDonnell Douglas or some some company asking him to come back uh after they'd laid him off for$3.50 an hour. The other one was from Johnny Carson asking him for him to come on.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:25

Oh my gosh, Bill Withers, we did it, buddy.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:28

For everyone's sake.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:29

How old was he when you died?

SPEAKER_01 1:50:30

80 Oh, good for him.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:33

I hope he had a nice I hope he was a nice person at home.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:35

He retired from the music industry after like 1985. He's like, screw this. I think it's great. I mean, I wish he made more stuff, but um anyways, yeah. He's uh I thought I just thought that was kind of cool. That and he also used to have a stuttering problem. That's actually why I guess he wrote use me. He had a stuttering problem until he was like 23 or something.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:59

Is that why he did I know I know I know?

SPEAKER_01 1:51:01

Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's actually stuttering there. Yeah, he's saying it.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:06

Shut up, it was not.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:09

He did have a stuttering problem. He wrote it because he just thought of it, he said Wenwin would always say he was too nice. So he wanted to kind of write this to kind of like sort of play into that.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:20

It's cute. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:21

Good job, Billy.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:22

Yeah, I love I love Billy.

Liner Notes: B-Sides, Dream Covers & Soundtrack Picks

SPEAKER_03 1:51:23

Billy with you. Alright, cover. Come on, get on with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:26

Okay, cover.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:27

Um You are not allowed to tell me more than three people that you did not choose.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:33

Well, at first I thought Earth Wind and Fire would be cool. But you know what I'm gonna go with? This is one of my favorite songs. I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna hook it up with one of my favorite singers. Say David Ruffin. Playing with Lettuce. Lettuce is the backing band for David Ruffin. Okay. Bring up Lettuce. I didn't bring up Nigel Hall before. But Nigel Hall was in the band Lettuce.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:58

Played keys for him. He's also a great singer. Uncle Dan turned me on to him. I was just basically a little clone of Uncle Dan. Just I just follow him around.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:06

Like maybe in our show, like maybe some episodes we'll have Uncle Dan here, but we won't say. We'll just say it's you, and they'll be like, wait a second, they switch him out. I swear it's a different guy.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:14

It'll be like Oh crap, we were just talking about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:17

No, that's why I'm saying it.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:18

Who was it?

SPEAKER_03 1:52:20

It was Nathan Lane in Firefly. Huh. So you didn't choose Silksonic, or you just changed it because I said it.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:29

No, that's my that's my B side. Let's come down.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:32

Oh. You drink my look at that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:34

Have you seen the tiny desk version of that?

SPEAKER_03 1:52:36

No, but I'm sure it's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:37

Oh my gosh, it's so good. Like the album version's great, but the tiny desk version is. Um yeah, I'm gonna say David Ruffin and Lettuce. Nigel Hall. Oh, I'm sorry. Nigel Hall's. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:51

Who cares what your choice is?

SPEAKER_01 1:52:52

I do want to know, but I headed in my notes. I wanted to- That doesn't mean you have to. Nigel Hall. What's happening?

SPEAKER_03 1:53:02

What?

SPEAKER_01 1:53:03

Nigel Hall did a great Earth Wind and Fire cover album.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:07

Unrelated to what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:11

Lettuce. Who's in lettuce?

SPEAKER_03 1:53:13

Delicious. I love lettuce. Salad.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:15

Okay. Who are your covers on it? I want to know.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:17

Well, okay, I have two. They're different. The first one is Jack Black.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:24

Oh yeah. He'd he'd he'd be great. No, is this would you want to see a Tenacious D version?

SPEAKER_03 1:53:29

No, just with Jack Black sing it. Like, I got inspired because have you seen him and Jimmy Fallon doing um More Than Words? And it's like ridiculous, but also beautiful.

unknown 1:53:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:41

I feel like Jack Black would just kill this song.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:44

Sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:45

Uh, but then I also got on the Deborah train and I really think Beck in the style of Beck, like him putting it together with his weird techie pop techno sound and different instruments. Like I would I think he could do it. I would like to hear a Beck take on Use Me.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:03

I agree. I'll I like uh I like Beck. That song I think uh is called Deborah. Is that the name of that?

SPEAKER_03 1:54:10

I think so.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:11

That'd be a good one to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:12

We should try to do that one, yeah. But I I he has like a he does have a pretty soulful voice.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:18

And he does a lot with his voice. He does. And I would like to see what he would do to that song.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:23

Speaking of uh guys who do a lot of play a lot of instruments and whatnot, I'm going to see Nine Inch Nails next, uh that'll be on the next show.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:30

Oh, let me know.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:32

Trent Reznor. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:34

Um Is it the real Trent Reznor? Is he dead?

SPEAKER_01 1:54:37

Oh, you know who else I had on here? Who? Yes, it is. I had for potential B-sides, uh, Fiona Apple Criminal.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:45

Oh, that would be a good one.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:46

Amy Winehouse, You Know I'm No Good.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:48

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:49

And uh You Got Me by the Roots in Erica Badou. Uh-huh. That's kind of a goofy relationship, kind of. I got just Anderson Peck. Once I heard him playing those drums, I'm just like, yeah. Right to it.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:58

That's uh My B-side. Do you remember that terrible song by Tove Lowe called Habits?

SPEAKER_00 1:55:03

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:04

I gotta say hi all the time to keep you off my mind. I don't think I know. And she's the words are terrible. She says it's like um I pick up daddies at the playground, I eat my dinner in the bathtub, something about vomiting it back up. Like she's a mess.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:24

Okay. No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:27

It's a pop song. It's probably 10 years old.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:29

Sam Neil's wife on uh Dr. Grant's wife on Event Horizon.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:33

No, she's the um the other the woman doctor from Jurassic Park.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:38

Oh, that's where she's been.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:40

Yeah.

unknown 1:55:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:41

That's my B side. You have to listen to it. It's called Uh Habits by Tove Lowe. T-O-V-E-L-O.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:48

Okay. Okay, I will listen to that. Um what's your if you could have this on any soundtrack, what would it be?

SPEAKER_03 1:55:56

I thought this would be a great montage song for some one any one of the messed up relationships from Game of Thrones. Nice. To quote move the plot.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:11

Just open up just nice incest uh version.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:14

Yeah, I just feel like it would it it wouldn't go with the show because they didn't use any like modern day message.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:19

How about um the Gorgy scene from the gosh that'd be pretty good? That's not mine, but it might be now.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:25

It could be. You should change it. Don't even tell us what you were gonna say.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:28

You know, the Fallout guy who did the Fallout soundtrack also did Game of Thrones soundtrack. But anyways. Um I love all the music on Fallout too, by the way. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:38

Yeah, that's a big part of it for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:40

Yes. Um I would pick. I said Liza Minnelli. Do you does uh Lucille Lucille mean anything to you?

SPEAKER_03 1:56:49

Oh my gosh, from Arrested Development with Buster, her buster. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:56

Buy her version of it.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:58

That that's magic.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:00

That might be one of my best ones, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:01

That is probably one of your best ones. I mean, we couldn't high five over having the same one, then that's an alternate that I've got to do it. What's handshake? With our creepy left hands.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:09

So weird. This is my favorite handshake right here. God. Damon.

unknown 1:57:17

Who?

SPEAKER_01 1:57:18

Kevin and Stacy's son. Is that what he does? Yeah, yeah, I did it. He was uh he used to be one of my clients, and he comes in like this and he goes.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:27

It's a creepy eyes. Just looks me in the eye.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:32

I didn't know he was a goot, like a goofy kid. Yeah. I thought he was a good one. He's and he did that. I like I don't think I ever fully recovered. No. We're still really. He was on the floor laughing. It's like the best day of my life. Thank you, David.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:45

All right.

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SPEAKER_03 1:58:49

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SPEAKER_01 1:58:53

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