The Audience Won't Like It
Married hosts Rob and Leslie Shoecraft invite you into their closet (literally) for a podcast that’s equal parts nostalgia trip, music nerd-out, and absurd banter. Born from a joke about how the audience probably won’t like it, the show leans into that spirit—riffing on everything from Star Trek episodes and Kitty Wells deep cuts, to feet, crockpots, and cover songs that live on YouTube thanks to copyright.
Each week, the conversation drifts like two people killing time in line for a concert—unexpected, hilarious, and sometimes strangely profound. Future episodes explore growing up in the 80s and 90s, The Dollhouse Murders, “5 of 5” and borrowed chords in music theory, bodybuilding meal prep, Wu-Tang Clan, Gordon Lightfoot, Alan Thicke, Herb Alpert, and whatever other rabbit holes pop up along the way.
If you like side tangents, forgotten pop culture, and covers of songs your mom might love, you might just find that you do like it after all.
The Audience Won't Like It
X-Files Tooms, All Alanis Really Wants & Blondie | Ep 24
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We dive from Blondie’s Parallel Lines to Alanis’s All I Really Want, then into the X-Files’ creepiest early villain, with a pit stop at a Nine Inch Nails arena show and a Bruno Mars performance masterclass. We argue what makes pop endure, why smart horror still works, and how live shows can feel like machines that breathe.
• show format as a “waiting in line” hangout
• listener comments and a skunky dog cameo
• corrections on songs, film trivia, and instruments
• Blondie’s Parallel Lines as pop built from punk roots
• Debbie Harry’s vocal range and band chemistry
• track highlights including Fade Away And Radiate
• Buddy Holly cover debate and what covers miss
• Nine Inch Nails live breakdown and setlist feel
• Bruno Mars’ precision and band choreography
• X-Files Squeeze and Tombs plot beats and fear
• cinematography, vents, screws, and green eyes
• parole board absurdity and escalator payoff
• Alanis songwriting with Glenn Ballard and mixolydian bite
• covers, B-sides, and who should cover it next
• wrap with links, platforms, and where to find us
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Cold Open Banter
SPEAKER_02Can we talk about his animal van for a second?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, let's do.
SPEAKER_02I really, really enjoyed him sucking his fingers after handling the rat.
SPEAKER_04That was pretty.
SPEAKER_02I wanted to see him do that after the room.
SPEAKER_04I bet he wrote that out.
SPEAKER_02He's like, can I take my pants off Lindel? Didn't tune my guitar.
SPEAKER_05Well, let's see how it goes. I'm ready.
SPEAKER_02Not bad.
SPEAKER_05No, two tarubs. Sing me a song.
SPEAKER_00Two married friends. In a base corner of the basement of the roof house. Surrounded by blankies. And two microphones. They got in a car crash. She died in his arms. He kissed her lips. No, no, they won't.
SPEAKER_05You know what? I think it must have been summer. It must have been down in Florida.
SPEAKER_02Because her lips are still warm?
SPEAKER_05Because she was so warm. Yeah. Because I'm typically freezing.
SPEAKER_02You're like, all right, we this connection here.
SPEAKER_05Tell me about your outfit today. Well, it's like a little business on top, little gym shorts on the bottom.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, this is the this is the mullet version of clothes.
SPEAKER_05This is the Zoom taking a meeting on Zoom era.
SPEAKER_02This is the part where we adjust our microphone. No, I adjust my I like to adjust my microphone once in the beginning. Leslie likes to adjust herself Constantly throughout the entire time.
SPEAKER_05Constantly throughout.
SPEAKER_02Just listen. Just listen for the submarine sounds.
SPEAKER_05No, no, this is an homage to the the ride they used to have at Disney World.
SPEAKER_02Which is now Oh, the submarine ride?
SPEAKER_05Yeah. This is now that's where they have the little merms uh merms made. Sorry, guys, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00The audience. They're not gonna like it.
SPEAKER_05Welcome to episode 20. Four.
SPEAKER_02Huh.
SPEAKER_05That's it, guys. Thanks for coming.
SPEAKER_02Actually, we gotta we gotta be kind of peppy today.
SPEAKER_05It doesn't matter how peppy we are. We'll just we may be taking a child picking up break.
SPEAKER_02We definitely will be, I would say. Unless another child will be. Okay. Hey, should we just get right into corrections corner?
SPEAKER_05We should, but we should just briefly describe what the show is.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, go put it. It's a good idea.
SPEAKER_05I like it when you do it.
SPEAKER_02Hey guys, welcome to the audience won't like it. My name is Rob Shoecraft. And uh this is my wife, Leslie Shoecraft. We're married, and uh what we try to do here is simulate the waiting in line concert experience. We do um try to simulate sit next to somebody and you just kind of talk to them waiting for the doors to open. Um was the last concert you went to where that was a thing that you had to do?
SPEAKER_05No, no concert.
SPEAKER_02I don't think I've ever actually had to do that.
SPEAKER_05I think we just uh no when we went to uh I'm pretty sure we had to wait when we went to see the jukebox. We had to line up around the corner.
SPEAKER_02We did. Yeah. Yes, we did because I was uh I I I didn't give that gentleman uh uh money, and I was accused of being racist. Don't just keep going.
SPEAKER_05Just keep going, buddy.
SPEAKER_02That was a good call. I don't I don't think he was in the right headspace. No, and I think I'm too immature to engage in a conversation like that.
SPEAKER_05Uh I think you think you can do more than you can.
SPEAKER_02That's what it is. That's maturity on some level.
SPEAKER_05Did you order me that super comfy couch to sit on during the show?
SPEAKER_02No, that's that's when we hit 50 subscribers. We're at 27 right now. Are you serious?
SPEAKER_05I get some that 50? We have 27?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05We picked up two.
SPEAKER_02Thank you, everyone.
SPEAKER_05We picked up two super comes.
SPEAKER_02We picked up two more.
SPEAKER_05Any comments to share?
SPEAKER_02Uh oh, we're starting with comments? Comments corner?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, well, you were gonna surprise me with the curated comments corner.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, this is um yeah, we have we have one new one. It's from uh Andy Bassman or bass man. Bass man could be.
SPEAKER_05Is he a fish?
SPEAKER_02Uh he could be a fisherman?
SPEAKER_05Huh.
SPEAKER_02I didn't ask him.
SPEAKER_05Or does he play a bass?
SPEAKER_02I should have asked.
SPEAKER_05Is he like, please stop playing the keyboard like it's a bass guitar?
SPEAKER_02Remind me to reply to him. Um I'll do my best. Are you is this like bass man like a bass or like a fish? Are you a fish? Uh-huh. A fish named Andy.
SPEAKER_05What is this comment?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, uh 99, I should say. Is his full is his full commenting uh handle. Uh we got our dog here. He said, uh, well, this is a family show, but I'm gonna I'm gonna get get kind of nasty here.
SPEAKER_05What video is it on?
SPEAKER_02He he said, uh, well, this is episode 20. This was time loops and little talks.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02We did a cover of little talks. By the way, we do a cover of a song.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah, by the way, that's what you're waiting in line for.
SPEAKER_02That's the concert. Yeah. Like today.
SPEAKER_05We never got past simulating waiting in line for a concert. We talk about stuff.
SPEAKER_02This is a line simulation show. That's what it was. That's this.
SPEAKER_05It's this. You could listen to this while waiting in line.
SPEAKER_02You could.
SPEAKER_05I think you would like that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, tell your friends. Tell tell or tell your student to be for a few.
SPEAKER_05Everyone tells one friend 27 times two is fifty-four.
SPEAKER_02Tell you next week in Croatia's corner. Yeah. It's pretty good.
SPEAKER_05Matzman. Anyway, what did what did David Baseman say?
SPEAKER_02You know what he said? What? Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_05All right. On Little Talks.
SPEAKER_02On uh on the on the podcast. I don't know what he was um what he was praising. He's really leaning into me here.
SPEAKER_05He's really getting he needs his pet.
SPEAKER_02Gruber, if you are if you're not watching us on YouTube right now, I'm like We're petting our dog. My dog who smells suspiciously like a skunk.
SPEAKER_05Hmm.
SPEAKER_02It's February. Despite baking soda and vinegar. Vinegar and palm. Hydrogen peroxide.
SPEAKER_05Oh no v no vinegar.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_05It's Dawn baking soda and hydrogen peroxide. And it does work.
SPEAKER_02I mean we gotta put it on him, what, quarterly?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. We live on the sticks. So anyway. Anyways, thanks Andy.
SPEAKER_05So thanks for tuning in. Oh, I called him David Baseman. Is it Andy Baseman?
SPEAKER_02David, he goes by David. I got a feeling. Baby David?
SPEAKER_05Most baby David Andy Baseman.
SPEAKER_02We should give people nicknames, but uh we'll work on that. Um yeah. Look at you. A little Charles Mingus reference there.
SPEAKER_05That's right.
SPEAKER_02Wow. Or just drench.
SPEAKER_05Aww.
SPEAKER_02We're pulling out all the Gruber.
SPEAKER_05Have you been wearing your pork pie hat that we got you?
SPEAKER_02He's about to knock me over. Oh, look at your pants.
SPEAKER_05Look at your pants, how much fur. Oh my god. He's a half German shepherd, and he's like blowing out that coat right now.
SPEAKER_02He's about 90 pounds of He's not 90 pounds.
SPEAKER_05You think?
SPEAKER_02Like, yeah, I do think he's 90 pounds.
SPEAKER_05All right.
SPEAKER_02He was 86 pounds last time I took him.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02And he's nothing but thick. Thicker.
SPEAKER_07He's a thick boy.
SPEAKER_02So sweet boy. Feel free to uh comment on YouTube, comment on I think you could comment on Spotify, com write us. Yeah. Audience won't like it.
SPEAKER_05Subscribe to us.
SPEAKER_02Do all those things.
SPEAKER_05Audience won't like it.
SPEAKER_02I've given you so many reasons so far.
SPEAKER_05We're on Instagram now where you can see some some slides that you know are cherry-picked from some of the random stuff we say and talk about. Uh so actually this week does fit feature a picture of uh Gruber and Uncle Dan's Pipes.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, it's a really nice picture, Gruber. It's a little uh a little unsettling, a little obscene.
SPEAKER_05That's how he looks all the time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it does.
SPEAKER_05Okay, enough about Corrections, correct me.
SPEAKER_02Enough about Mr. Bassman. Oh, won't you play that bass man too? You know that song?
SPEAKER_05I don't, but is it from uh uh uh what's the name of the ride? Splash Mountain.
SPEAKER_02Uh no, it's not, but it does kind of have that sort of flavor.
SPEAKER_05It's gone now. Rest in peace.
SPEAKER_02It's um uh I can't think of the name of the guy. Johnny Cymbal. I think his name is Johnny Cymbal.
SPEAKER_05Like he plays a cymbal?
SPEAKER_02It's uh he's kind of got uh like a high tenor part, but he's singing like a duet with a bass, like a really deep What's the guy's name who sings uh You're a mean one?
SPEAKER_05Uh Earl Thurgood? Something like that?
Corrections Corner
SPEAKER_02It's not him, but he probably do it pretty well. Okay, maybe we'll do that song sometime. Let's start in Corrections Corner. This is the the this is the part of the show where we uh we answer unanswered questions of the free previous podcast.
SPEAKER_05Unasked questions mostly.
SPEAKER_02Well, if i I wanted to know the answers normally, you either forgot that you asked them or never cared to ask in the first place.
SPEAKER_05That's right. Unasked questions.
SPEAKER_02But it's always something that came up. That's true.
SPEAKER_05It's always ri vaguely relevant.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's always relevant to me.
SPEAKER_05Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02Special. This is a special section for me. It's also a place where we correct things that we where we misspoke. I got a couple of those. It's also a place where I acknowledge things that I might have missed that you said.
SPEAKER_05Any this week? I feel like I'm not hitting off my game.
SPEAKER_02A little bit, but I I don't remember what. We'll get there. Okay. Ready?
SPEAKER_05Gotcha. Let's do it.
SPEAKER_02The other guy's name that wasn't Balkie from Perfect Strangers in the sitcom.
SPEAKER_05Oh, that's hitting the instrument.
SPEAKER_02That was that's Larry Appleton, played by Mark Lynn Baker. Next.
SPEAKER_05Larry Appleton was the character's name?
SPEAKER_02No, no. Uh yes, yes, sorry, yes. Mark Lynn Baker is the actor.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Any questions about that? None. No, no follow-ups? Okay. Um I I think Perfect Strangers is my biggest theme song to do, or as a cover. I think we may do different strokes next. Okay. Next time.
SPEAKER_05How did that go? Perfect Strangers?
SPEAKER_02Oh, it starts with like bow wow, bow wow. It's that's all I got.
SPEAKER_05No, that sounds like the fight song for our kids home too.
SPEAKER_02I gotta keep the show going. If I sit here long enough, I'll think of it.
SPEAKER_05That's okay.
SPEAKER_02You do have to keep it going. Next time, corrections core, I'll sing the whole thing. The whole set. I'll do the full intro, the bow wow, and I'll tell you what instrument it is. Alright, ready? Shine on you crazy diamond, the length on the album.
SPEAKER_07Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02Wish You Were Here. I think it was on Wish You Were Here. I probably should have looked that up. Uh it's actually, it's in two parts if you include both parts. It's 25 minutes and 57 seconds. How many? 25 minutes and 57 seconds.
SPEAKER_05Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_02It's a pretty long song.
SPEAKER_05It's a pretty long song. That's a sitcom episode.
SPEAKER_02I'm thinking like other songs that might contend with that in length would be like tubular bells.
SPEAKER_05I don't even know how long that is.
SPEAKER_02I just have we've listened to it.
SPEAKER_05Um I know, but that's you mean tubular bells?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like we remember we had a uh road trip one time with the with the kids and we just played the longest songs. I think I probably just played the longest songs I can think of. Yeah. Thick as a Brick. It's like 45 minutes in one version of it I had. It's a Jethro Toll tune. Um I think we played like Reba, maybe, from uh Fish. It's a pretty long one. It's like 15 minutes. Anyways.
SPEAKER_05Was that was that like a trip to hell for me?
SPEAKER_00I don't think you were having a bad time.
SPEAKER_05Okay. I don't I think it doesn't stand out in my memory, so usually bad and good things are only things that I remember.
SPEAKER_02Tubular Bells has like there there's a there's a part of it where they they they say the name of the instrument. It kind of breaks the vibe a little bit, but it's kind of cool.
SPEAKER_05You're talking about the m the horror movie song. Yeah. Okay. Is it from Halloween?
SPEAKER_02No. No Friday the 13th.
SPEAKER_05Oh Psycho? No. Oh. I don't know. Is it Exorcist? I I thought it was one of those campaigns. What's the camp movie with Jason?
SPEAKER_02Michael? No. It's not Friday the 13th.
SPEAKER_05Michael Myers?
SPEAKER_02Well, maybe it is. It might be hella. But I thought John Carpenter did it. This is Mike.
SPEAKER_05We'll find out next week.
SPEAKER_02We'll follow up on Tubba bills.
SPEAKER_05If we ever do get around to filming another podcast.
SPEAKER_02Alright, I said Manny's sister from Scarface. I said I was going to find out her name. It's not Manny's sister, it's Tony's sister.
SPEAKER_05Tony.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Tony's sister. Did you ever see Scarface? No. No. Gina Montana.
SPEAKER_05Gotcha.
SPEAKER_02Was the character's name. Played by. Any guesses? Elaine from Seinfeld? Nope. She might come up with.
SPEAKER_05Julie Halloween Drive.
SPEAKER_02Played by Mary Elizabeth Mascratonio.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I didn't. I was very close when I said Elaine.
SPEAKER_02Uh the lead guy on Firefly, Nathan Fillion.
SPEAKER_05Not Alan Tudick.
SPEAKER_02Not Al well, in our hearts.
SPEAKER_05In our hearts.
SPEAKER_02We started watching Resident Alien.
SPEAKER_05I feel like he needs to know that we have a podcast where he's been featured.
SPEAKER_02Are you I bet he does know. He's one probably one of those 27. Nathan, if you're out there, Bonnie.
SPEAKER_05He was 26 or 27. He might have been 26.
SPEAKER_02What if he's Andy Basin? Nathan. Oh, yeah. No, Nate na no. Did I say Nathan?
SPEAKER_05I thought you did. Oh, sorry. I want I want Alan to be number 26 or 27 in our hearts.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Nathan, I honestly I could care less whether or not he No, he's he's he's good. I actually like him. He's he's he's a good time.
SPEAKER_05He was a great community, right? He's the janitor. He's like a head janitor in community.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he was in community.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02He still is.
SPEAKER_05He was in it the other night.
SPEAKER_02That's right.
SPEAKER_05I know thanks.
SPEAKER_02Good for you. Thank you. Alright. Jazz harp versus like a folk harp. Uh what is it? Let's see. How's it different from a folk harp? Jazz harp and folk harp differ primarily in instrumentation and technique.
SPEAKER_03What? What? Differ? You said differ. And I think you said jazz heart.
SPEAKER_02Well, we don't did I?
SPEAKER_05I think so. We'll find out.
SPEAKER_02Uh it jazz usually uses a large 47-string pedal harp. So it's a it's got a pedal on it.
SPEAKER_05Like an orchestra like one that you'd see in an orchestra. Sorry, I should I know I shouldn't ask questions because then we just have to keep talking about it.
SPEAKER_02Hey, let's bring in Viv back.
SPEAKER_05Let's learn things 30 seconds at a time over the course of six months. That's fun.
SPEAKER_02Honestly, this is my favorite part of the show. Alright, so look at the dog. It allows for like uh chromatic changes uh on the fly. That's I bet I've seen him do it before. Uh complex harmonies where folk harps are usually smaller lever harps.
SPEAKER_05That's what I have.
SPEAKER_0226 to 38 strings, suited for diatonic, Celtic or traditional music, jazz emphasizes swing and blah blah blah blah blah. Okay. Any questions about that that I can't answer? Cool. Maybe next time we'll talk more. Earth, One, and Fire, you asked what's their primary genre? And I said, I think it's a lot of them. It's a lot of them, but it can't be nailed down. RB, funk, soul, disco, all of those things. Some albums might be a little more geared. Groober?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he keeps making noise.
SPEAKER_02Cooper, you got anything you want to say?
SPEAKER_05Gruber, do you want a microphone, buddy?
SPEAKER_00Groover's Teddy. Groover's mini.
SPEAKER_05Who's Teddy?
SPEAKER_02We like to just say uh oh Wesley's dog.
SPEAKER_05He doesn't know Teddy.
SPEAKER_02He smells it, he knows what he smells like. Okay, uh I said Discovery. We did uh we talked about Earth Wind and Fire's Spirit album last week. And I said that uh that Discovery was the name or sorry, was uh Discovery was the name of the song that's like the really short one that kind of breaks up where the album gets a little different. And it was actually uh Departure. Ah sorry about that, guys.
SPEAKER_05Actually, that's a great name for the It is the surf what the purpose it was serving.
SPEAKER_02I think they knew what they were doing.
SPEAKER_05You think so?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, it's it they know what they're doing.
SPEAKER_05They weren't just a bunch of people who fell into one studio at a at one time, coincidentally, and made a bunch of cool songs.
SPEAKER_02I don't believe they were. I bet I bet there's some bands that have done that though. Shall we uh maybe talk about that in Correction Square next week?
SPEAKER_05Sure. I don't care though.
SPEAKER_02I know you don't if you don't feel like it. You know I do.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so um I bet they uh never mind. Uh big, you asked about big orchestral. Big orchestral contemporary bands like Earth, Wind and Fire.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um I didn't really hunt too far on this, but I did think of Snarky Puppy. You ever listen to that?
SPEAKER_05No. Um sounds like a cute name. I like it. Snarky puppy.
SPEAKER_02Nick uh Nick turned me on to them. They are the old band, the old band uh teacher.
SPEAKER_05Oh, Mr.
SPEAKER_02Tech of a guitar little uh Eddie Van Halen Jr.
SPEAKER_05Snarky Puppy.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Mark uh Lidieri is a guitar player who plays with him. He's great.
SPEAKER_07Okay.
SPEAKER_02He's the only one I can name. But I have heard some of their stuff. It's pretty cool. Okay. Leif Babin Babin.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_02That's Jaco Willink's buddy who co-authored Extreme uh.
SPEAKER_05Man, I actually really like that book. You want me just to give you a little minute on it?
SPEAKER_02Sure, yeah, go. Let's go. So a little more than stepping on consumption corner a little bit.
SPEAKER_05Well, it's just okay. No, good. Let's go.
SPEAKER_02Do it.
SPEAKER_05Uh so you know I hate like war movies and stuff like that. I don't want to be doing it. Do you know what my favorite parts of these books are? When they're talking about the retellings of their of their sh you know, missions and things that have gone that went wrong and all those things that they it's like, who am I? And then they kind of like apply that to the business uh Yeah, and literally every business person sounds like a dumb, stupid idiot after you've heard the stories.
SPEAKER_03Like they're like saving towns of poor, starving people.
SPEAKER_05And then this guy's like, Well, I don't think I'm the reason that this business plan is failing.
SPEAKER_02It's a great book, it's extreme ownership. I don't know if it's 650 at five in the morning. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I'm not quite done with it, but I actually can't believe how much I like the war parts. That's cool. That doesn't mean I want to watch any more warp more movies.
SPEAKER_02Okay, because I got one. I want to I want to watch uh come and see.
SPEAKER_05I don't want to see that.
SPEAKER_02It's supposed to be one of the most brutal, hard to watch. One of those movies you only want to watch once. You want to watch it with me?
SPEAKER_05No.
unknownI do.
SPEAKER_02Okay, it might be one of my next bike movies. We'll see.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's gonna have to be because well, I mean you can watch it without me, but not in our room while I'm trying to sleep.
SPEAKER_02No, I don't think I wouldn't do that to you. I don't think I'd be able to sleep from what I've heard.
SPEAKER_05Oh, great. Do you think I would want to watch that?
SPEAKER_02No, I know you wouldn't want to watch it. Uh I did try to do a little bit of research on uh we were talking about the Fallout series on, and I'm not spoiling this. This this happened in the very well, I guess this is sort of a spoiler. Kind of. Fast forward 15 seconds. Um the part where in the very beginning of the the the That won't be enough. Very first episode. Just keep fast forwarding. Uh it's been 30 seconds. The uh the very first episode where he sees the bomb drop while he's holding his daughter at that house party, and then you asked Are they ever gonna get the storyline back up to that? Yeah, it's it's it kind of intentionally um hasn't gotten there yet. Exactly. Thank you.
SPEAKER_05We figured that, right?
SPEAKER_02We did. But I just wanted I wanted to double check.
SPEAKER_05Scoopers whining.
SPEAKER_02You're not gonna remember this, but was Larry Fishburn in Band of the Hand? Yes. He played Cream.
SPEAKER_05Cool.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Band of the Hand. Check it out if you haven't. If you like uh 80s teenage movies about it's kind of like Red Dawn in Florida, sorta, if I remember right. That's not exactly what it is, but uh it's got that kind of kind of feel. Okay, um I think that's the movie. I might be mixing up. Yeah, that's it. That's the one. Okay, it doesn't matter. Um Outer Space versus Inner Space. Outer space is outside the Earth's atmosphere. Inner space is like nothing.
SPEAKER_05It's not a thing.
SPEAKER_02It's a bunch of stuff, but not really relative to space.
SPEAKER_05Should I go let the dog out?
SPEAKER_02Why do you say that?
SPEAKER_05He keeps whining and running up and down the basement steps.
SPEAKER_02I think he's probably fine-ish.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02If you think so. Uh don't you want to learn more about air hockey tables?
SPEAKER_05I do.
SPEAKER_02You want to know about how much it costs to get a really nice, really nice air hockey table like the ones we were talking about from Event Horizon?
SPEAKER_05Yep. Or you can do like medical exams on them and stuff.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, exactly. Or you could operate on Mr. Justin.
SPEAKER_05And he can operate on you.
SPEAKER_02It's a reverse, reverse petting zero. Um about somewhere between five thousand and seventy five hundred dollars.
SPEAKER_05I don't remember from what I guessed, but uh yeah, I think we said like three grand, maybe.
SPEAKER_02Something like that, yeah. I'm sure you probably could probably find one for three G's.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Uh 90s scientist protagonist like characters. Oh yeah. Like Dr. Gray or um or Jeff Goldblum in any number of movies that he was in. Um or Doc Brown.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, well, that'd be like Back to the Futures. It was technically a 90s movie. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER_05Independence Day.
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah, well, I already mentioned That's true. You did say Jeff Gold's Goldsbloom. Yeah, I did. Uh Gold what'd you call him? Gold's bloom. Gold's bloom. Um, yeah, there's like uh Mickey, Mickey 17. We've never seen that, have we?
SPEAKER_05I that doesn't ring any bells to me.
SPEAKER_02It's a sci-fi movie.
SPEAKER_05Well, I like it.
SPEAKER_02So Robert Pattinson.
SPEAKER_05He's okay. He's fine.
SPEAKER_02He's a good actor.
SPEAKER_05He's a yeah, he got a rock off to a rocky start, but Whoa Twilight?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. He broke he broke the uh kind of broke the um what do you call it, the mold. Yeah, like his own mold, like his own. Yeah, the Daniel Radcliffe uh mold. I don't think he quite did that, did he? He's Daniel Click. Daniel Radcliffe? Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah, he he's like a stage actor.
SPEAKER_02He went like full nude right off the bat.
SPEAKER_05I think he's pretty cool. He's broken out.
SPEAKER_02But anyways, uh scient scientist characters in more contemporary movies. Yeah, Mickey 17, Hail Mary, uh Ryan Gosling's gonna be in that.
SPEAKER_05Project Hail Mary.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Project Hail Mary. Um Matt Damon and The Martian.
SPEAKER_05True. Yeah, I that's but see, they're not that doesn't they're not really checking my box of like that's the only type of character they play.
SPEAKER_02They're kind of like they're closer to like a uh just like leaving man material kinda. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_05It's okay though. We can move on.
SPEAKER_02We keep working on that. All right. I so one thing is, you know, normally I like to ask literally a hundred questions, if not more, and then I have like a whole AI prompt that I've built that goes out and researches it for me. Well, it's it just fell on its face today. Kept saying that it was too long, and and I just so I so so I don't have this too much information. I don't have the level of notes that I normally have.
SPEAKER_05Oh my gosh, why I feel so blessed.
SPEAKER_02It'll probably be we'll probably be better for it. VHS stands for video home system.
SPEAKER_05Well, that's a letdown.
SPEAKER_02What do you want it to say?
SPEAKER_05I don't know. Something like vehicular. What do we think it's in?
SPEAKER_02Vehicular homicidal cyst phone?
SPEAKER_05Sir Hiss. Can I just pause? Can I just say something about Sir Hiss? Who's who's that? Sir Hiss is from the animated Robin Hood.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_05With the fox is hot. I think we talked about that several episodes back too.
SPEAKER_02Did we talk about the fox being hot?
SPEAKER_05I did.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_05Anyway, I saw a thing on Instagram where they showed all the actors that played all the voices of all those um characters. Robin, that Robinhood Robin Hood, the animated one from Disney is top tier.
SPEAKER_02It's good. Who played who played him?
SPEAKER_05Oh, I don't remember. Oh don't worry, they're all like what like Shakespeare actors and they're just like and there was a guy from I think Green Acres played the sheriff. They're just great. They're all like wonderful. And then a lot of them were voices in other older Disney movies as well. Sorry, I don't know why we had to say that.
SPEAKER_02It's got a fun soundtrack.
SPEAKER_05Yes, it does. Oodalali.
SPEAKER_02If I remember right, yes. Golly, what a day. Mm-hmm. Uh Clavinova versus a clavinet.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02Clavinet was played in Use Me. Clavinova, which was what we did last time, right?
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clavinova is a modern digital piano designed by Yamaha to emulate acoustic grand pianos. A clavinet is a 60s slash seventies electromechanical keyboard by I had no idea. With a distinct funk style plucked string sound.
SPEAKER_05Cute, like a harpsichord.
SPEAKER_02Clavinovas tend to have weighted keys.
SPEAKER_05Uh clavinets do not.
SPEAKER_02Uh I I'm assuming they don't.
SPEAKER_05Well, did you get that from Chat Jeeps?
SPEAKER_02No. I got it from, I don't know, like a Gemini type search return when you Google it. Um, anyways, but it doesn't matter. Uh Revenge of the Nerds. Lamar character, the actor's name. Lamar Latrell.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02Played by Larry B. Scott. Not Lamont Landers.
SPEAKER_03Is that what you said?
SPEAKER_02No, but that's what made me think of for some reason. I was trying to think of uh Lamont Latrell.
SPEAKER_05Lamont Landers is the one who covered Choose Me that you liked.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Yeah, with uh with Kevin Canada on the organ. On the keys. Yeah, six six solo. Uh Ace Fraley from KISS, Jack White and Dave Grohl from like the Foo Fighters, Rivana.
SPEAKER_05I know who all those people are.
SPEAKER_02Queens of the Stone Age. They were all furniture movers. Is that one of the ones you were thinking of?
SPEAKER_05I don't know. No, I I was thinking of somebody who was like I think I think I was thinking of Bill Weathers and just like he was working a blue-collar job and like afraid to quit.
SPEAKER_02I couldn't find furniture mover anywhere, but that's it.
SPEAKER_05I think he moved something.
SPEAKER_02I moved a little furniture this weekend.
SPEAKER_05You did?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That's true. That's kind of cool. Um lastly, I think. Yeah. I said my name's Leslie. Oh.
SPEAKER_05We've been married for 20 years. You still don't know who I am.
SPEAKER_02I'm so sorry. It's gonna I'm gonna get it one of these days. Uh Grace Jones did her whack talk about her cover abuse me. I said it wasn't that great. I said it was kind of uh a little bit um I said a little bit new age, I meant new wave.
SPEAKER_04Ah.
SPEAKER_02And that's gonna be a little kind of relevant today because we're gonna talk about blondie parallel lines. We'll get there.
SPEAKER_05We could go there.
SPEAKER_02We'll get there, we'll go there like pretty much now. But hang on, Rob missed the corner.
SPEAKER_05Nothing.
SPEAKER_02This is where No, you were talking about smells, and you asked something about being French. What were you what were you saying?
SPEAKER_05You were talking about we were talking about uh skunks, I think. What were we talking about? But I was saying that I said, is he French because we were talking about and I was Pepe Le Pew. It had a it was a reservation.
SPEAKER_02Okay, nothing about French people. We don't have any downloads from France yet that I would know of.
SPEAKER_05Well now we won't.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02This guy's back right off.
SPEAKER_05I touched my mic. Sorry, I'm about to touch it again.
SPEAKER_02The French hate that. I think that's why they haven't downloaded it. UGK double you said uh you said double down on the babies and the sweethearts? Remember what you were talking about there? We're talking about UGK.
SPEAKER_03What's UGK?
SPEAKER_02UGK is uh Underground Kings, they're uh Pimpsy and Bun B, a little uh dirty south hip-hop duo.
SPEAKER_05They did use me up, which double down on the babies and the sweethearts.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, do you know what you meant?
SPEAKER_05No, but I like it.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I I think they would like it too. I think they would like you. I think they'd want you in their stable. Oh that's a compliment.
SPEAKER_05Thank you. I feel complimented. I feel good. I feel a little better about who like what other people might think about me now.
SPEAKER_02UGK's a guilty pleasure for me. They've got some they have some pretty sick beats. They're a little uh little crass.
SPEAKER_05Uh have you do you sit down and read the transcripts of these shows? Uh oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02Is it uh tons of errors?
SPEAKER_05No, they're just funny. They're just funny Oh because we're so funny. Every once in a while it'll get an error, but most of the time it's um and like remember that one time I was telling you that like I sometimes I can't tell who it is. And then I go back and listen, I'm surprised that I thought I was the one saying that, or vice versa.
SPEAKER_02I don't know why it doesn't.
SPEAKER_05Because it just says it says speaker zero zero zero and then it says speaker zero zero three.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it'll sometimes it'll sometimes I've seen up to six speakers. Apparently our voices tend to change throughout the creepy. Yeah, I gotta I gotta work on that.
SPEAKER_05Um There's only two speakers if you're reading the transcript right now.
SPEAKER_02Unless we give uh Gruber a mic. Well and Uncle Dan a mic.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I want Uncle Dan to have a mic.
SPEAKER_02I want him to. I just want him.
SPEAKER_05I want him to have.
SPEAKER_02I want you to hand. I want you to hand raise.
SPEAKER_05Uncle Dan.
SPEAKER_02And lastly, I just wanted to give a little bit more credit to Jeremy Lou Renner. Just it's just a great name. Good job.
SPEAKER_03Thank you.
SPEAKER_02If you want to see what Jeremy Jeremy Lou Renner might look like, you can go on Instagram. Unless he did some sort of uh morph thing. Actually, way more attractive than I would think.
SPEAKER_05Considering Considering, yeah. But I mean she was Mary Lou Henner was pretty hot. So she had a lot to give. Oh, she got that that was a big part of their couple their Well, it was a mashup of Jeremy Renner and Mary Lou Henner.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05So she gave a lot of genetics.
SPEAKER_02Oh, but that's where a lot of the pretty comes from. Yeah. Gotcha.
SPEAKER_05I'm just saying she was able to pull up higher.
SPEAKER_02What about like Jeremy Wade Henner?
SPEAKER_05Ooh. I think they're related. Because they're both named Jeremy.
SPEAKER_02Jeremy Renner and Jeremy Wade.
SPEAKER_05Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02They both kind of have the same uh craggy faces. Craggy faces.
SPEAKER_05That I like.
SPEAKER_02With like with uh Daniel Craig. Daniel Craig.
SPEAKER_05Daniel Craig.
SPEAKER_02Daniel Craig.
SPEAKER_05It's probably like I've heard it before.
SPEAKER_02Jer Jeremy, uh, Jeremy Renner and and and Daniel Cragg and uh and Jeremy Wade, all of them the Craig Mount Rushmore. I don't have any more.
SPEAKER_03To make a Mount Mushmo uh Mount Rushmore with those faces. Get out of my brain.
SPEAKER_02I might go with uh Kirk Douglas, maybe be the fourth. He's pretty craggy looking dead.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Okay, that's our Mount Rushmore. Crag Crag uh Craggy Mount Rushmore. Putting that on uh you can get to work on that.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_02Cool. Um there's some task, Task Corner.
SPEAKER_05Did you just say Richard?
SPEAKER_02Kirk Douglas.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_05Richard.
SPEAKER_02We covered Past the Glory in a couple episodes ago. What?
SPEAKER_05Why why are we going back two episodes?
SPEAKER_02I'm just mentioning in case you're interested in Kirk Douglas. He's a great.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I thought this was another one.
SPEAKER_02Fantastic Kirk Douglas movie, Stanley, Stanley Cooper. Um, okay. You we've been I've been trying to hunt down this Joni Mitchell song. You you you I either keep writing it down wrong or my right now best to you is what I found this week and listened to.
SPEAKER_05Was that not right?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I took it like best for you. And I couldn't find best for you, so I found my best to you, which I kinda liked. It was kind of had like a almost like a moody blues kind of backing.
SPEAKER_07Okay.
SPEAKER_02Instrumentational. Does that sound right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I think that's it. And your love blessed, that's my best to you. Yes. Here we go, we found it. Took a few weeks.
SPEAKER_02And and then you you told you told me I don't remember why to listen to Tovelo have Tovlow. Tovlow.
SPEAKER_05Well, that was my c uh my B side. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02That makes sense. Gotcha. Gotcha. Was that for use me?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah, I did know that song once a while. I didn't recognize it until the chorus came on. Um it's fine. Yeah, it's How dare you make me listen to that.
SPEAKER_05Sorry. Rob's Rob A doesn't like new music. B hates women singers, so it's two strikes against him.
SPEAKER_02Which is why I picked Blondie this week and uh Alanis Morissette. You can pick her.
SPEAKER_03Give me a break.
SPEAKER_02Um, I don't love Alanis Morisset, but uh I get why people do.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02We'll get there.
SPEAKER_05All right.
SPEAKER_02So do you want to go into parallel lines? Blondie?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, let's go for it.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so every week for the last what ten episodes or so?
SPEAKER_05Wow, has it been that many?
SPEAKER_02I don't know, something like that. Maybe like five.
SPEAKER_05Maybe five, maybe six.
SPEAKER_02Uh last night and I listened to an album.
SPEAKER_05I get an assignment from Rob.
SPEAKER_02She gets an assignment. In this case, I I never listened to it either. I got a running list of you don't have like a running list of movies to watch and of which there are hundreds on the list. That's my longest list by far. I've been keeping that one going for a while. And then I have uh one for one for books and music as well.
SPEAKER_05I want you to start putting a date next to when we do watch those things.
SPEAKER_02When we watch like the movies on your list on the list?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_05That would be a really fun thing to look back at.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_05Because we'd be like, oh, we just watched that last year. And then be like, it was in 1997 that we watched that. Together. Oh, that was probably 2002.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, it probably was. Yeah. Sounds about right. I think I first watched it in maybe 1990.
SPEAKER_05No, it was probably 2003, because we met in 2002.
SPEAKER_02We did an episode on Event Horizon last week. Check it out if you're interested. Okay. Um, so but we did we decided to listen to uh Parallel Lines. Parallel Lines. I had Blondie on my list of of music to listen to. I just put it on there. I was listening to a Blondie song and I was like, I need to listen more.
SPEAKER_05Tell me all of the tell me her name, like tell me all the names of the people in the Blondies group.
SPEAKER_02Well, we have uh Is this different than the cartoon in the newspaper? Is that a is that like a Saturday morning comic kind of reference?
SPEAKER_05Never read Blondie in the newspaper? Did you ever read the comics in the newspaper?
SPEAKER_02I I I didn't I never liked them. Oh never never got it.
SPEAKER_05There were the sun in the Sunday paper. The Sunday funnies, I think. Just you know, I'm not much of a There was a blonde a comic called Blondie.
SPEAKER_02If you can't listen to it, maybe somebody would have read it to me.
SPEAKER_05Someone probably tried to see it. Oh my gosh, I have to post your pet peeves.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay. You want to do that right now?
SPEAKER_05No, on Instagram.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05No, go ahead and talk to about tell me the names of the Blondie people.
SPEAKER_02The names of the Blondie people are uh at least for parallel lines, is Debbie Harry is on vocals. Um Chris Stein was on guitar. Clem Burke on drums. Clem? Clem. Heck of heck of a drummer.
SPEAKER_05Like Clemson?
SPEAKER_02He filled in, he's good enough to fill in for the Who at some point. Uh Keith Moon left some big shoes. Um Jimmy Destry. Moon boots, you might say. Moon boots. That's what his friends, that's what his friends called him. Umer space. And they'd be like, he'd be like, just space is fine. There's no inner space. And he recommended our podcast right now. And then he would he would take one set of Deepot, too. He will be in our concert, I believe.
SPEAKER_05Keith Moon Boots?
SPEAKER_02Keith Moon Boots will, yeah. We're having a concert for a bunch of dead uh dead people.
SPEAKER_05They're it's not for them. They'll be starring. It's for us.
SPEAKER_02It's for them. I mean glory.
SPEAKER_05Sure.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05But it's for anyone who wants to buy a ticket.
SPEAKER_02Robert Duval will be in it. He just died this week, poor guy.
SPEAKER_05What's he gonna do? Act?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he'll act. Yeah, he'll he'll handle he'll be like the uh what conciliary between um because there's gonna be some sort of mafia presence.
SPEAKER_05Someone else died too that was from uh what's that m sh not Scrubs, but the serious one?
SPEAKER_02Um uh ER? Grays Anatomy? Grace Anatomy. Who?
SPEAKER_05I don't I don't think I would someone watch that show. A younger guy, maybe he's like closer to 50 or something.
SPEAKER_02Oh then uh what's his face uh died too? Uh um Dawson.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah? What's his name? Uh Vanderbeek?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, James Vanderbeek. Yeah. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, a lot of greats.
SPEAKER_02Shoot. Well, um Robert Duvals was a good one. You guys can all come if you're listening to this uh somewhere out there.
SPEAKER_05But if you don't play any instruments or sing, then you can't perform.
SPEAKER_02You can watch and maybe fill in some space between acts if you're working on something.
SPEAKER_05You can be like, here's a few scenes from my best work.
SPEAKER_02But George Sakai and uh Kitty Wills are the hosts. Pretty much got the MC uh locked down. Yeah, but they need but they need a break too. And then you got Frank and Fante on the guitar as well. That's that's the that's the lineup.
SPEAKER_05See a baby. They should have called themselves Moon Boots and a baby. Oh wait, Frank Moon wasn't in Bonnie.
SPEAKER_00Wait, who was it in Bonnie? Frank Moon. Keith? Keith. Wow. Wow.
SPEAKER_02Old Frank Moon. If you've known him as long as I have, that's Frank Moon Boots.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02He's like, Rob, you can call me Frank.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, Moon Boots and the baby.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, uh, it's their shoot, when did this come out? I think 1978. Yes, 1978. This was like their big breakthrough.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it had two hits. It had Heart Heart of Glass and Well, probably one way or another.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It had six singles on it though. So like uh Oh really? Yeah, uh, Picture This, I'm Gonna Love You Too, which is like the Buddy Holly cover.
SPEAKER_05Oh.
SPEAKER_02What did you think about that? Did you know the the original song?
SPEAKER_05Is that one a real short one?
SPEAKER_02Uh it's pretty short, yeah.
SPEAKER_00You gonna say you?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Um I I didn't really realize that was I I didn't think it matched the rest of the album. Is that the one that I'm thinking of? It's it towards the end of the track list.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's kind of sounded like Sunday Girl on there, which is also kind of I mean, there's a lot of songs that have a little bit of that old sound to it, like um uh what's the heck's the name of the one? Pretty Pretty Baby? Like they that could that almost has like a doo-op, like a doo-op chorus, which I actually really like pretty baby a lot.
SPEAKER_05See the order and make sure I'm thinking of the right one.
SPEAKER_02Um I I don't love I've so I love Buddy Holly. Buddy Holly's one of my one of my favorite.
SPEAKER_05I'm gonna love you too. That's what you're saying is the Buddy Holly song. Yeah, yeah. I I that one came on, I was like, is this still the right album? But I don't really caught my attention. I was like, is this and I didn't. It was okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't love Buddy Holly covers. I love Buddy Holly. I don't like I've heard The Grateful Dead do Buddy Holly, I've heard Linda Ronsad do Buddy Holly.
SPEAKER_05I just only Buddy Holly can do Buddy Holly.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I we're gonna do a Buddy Holly cover.
SPEAKER_05What are we gonna do?
SPEAKER_02I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Um Can we not do everyday? I hate that song.
SPEAKER_02You hate that song?
SPEAKER_05That's just so I have to do it a lot.
SPEAKER_02You're gonna we're gonna get get the uh xylophone out again, the glockenspiel or whatever.
SPEAKER_05Well, unless we give it back.
SPEAKER_02Uh he said we can just he's like, I don't care. Just keep going. He did?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, did you ask him?
SPEAKER_02I just said, hey, do we need to get that back to you? Folks at home, hi. Um Rob Shoecracker.
SPEAKER_05Oh, podcast.
SPEAKER_02We're talking about uh we're talking about a xylophone that we uh borrowed. Well, Carol that's a good one.
SPEAKER_05Our daughter Caroline brought home to practice for school and never ever touched it once, but we used it to do a song we did um I'm so proud.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm by the impressions. Curtis Mayfield and Okay, so yeah, I don't I would I don't know. We probably maybe like True Love Ways. I love that song. But if you don't like if you don't like uh everyday uh let's talk about the Blondie album. Let's talk more about Blondie.
SPEAKER_05What I definitely really liked Fade Away and Radiate.
SPEAKER_02I love that song.
SPEAKER_05And I liked hanging on the telephone and picture this. I liked I skipped one way or another every time.
SPEAKER_02Let's come back to the three you just mentioned in a moment, but what why do you skip one way or another?
SPEAKER_05Just heard it's six trillion times.
SPEAKER_02It's a great song, but Yeah, I mean I see why it's on there, I see why people like it.
SPEAKER_05It's in every movie, it's in you know, it's just so I've just heard it, I'm just done hearing it.
SPEAKER_02I see, I've heard Heart of Glass a million times.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I have two, but I didn't know it was blonde.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay. Well, now you do. Do you like that song?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think that song's super cool.
SPEAKER_05How do you feel about her voice?
SPEAKER_02I like it a lot. I think she's got uh she's she's done um I think she's pretty great.
SPEAKER_05Do you think it's a pretty voice?
SPEAKER_02It can be. She's capable of pretty. She's also capable of being of of rocking out. Um she's kind of pretty. She was a Playboy bunny. I don't know if you know that. I did not look up her pictures. Any pictures of did you budget?
SPEAKER_05Should I put it on Instagram?
SPEAKER_02Check them out and let me know if they're worth looking at. Okay.
SPEAKER_05Sure will. Can't wait.
SPEAKER_02But uh no, I like her voice. Um it's um I yeah, on all these songs, she kind of has different she showcases it differently for the song.
SPEAKER_05Like, it's incredibly versatile, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. Yeah, she uses her voice as a tool quite well. There's never there's nothing about it that I find to be like annoying. Um, unlike some other people sweet Canadian friend, who we'll get to. Yeah. Yeah. Um I'm looking up pictures of the pictures of Debbie Harry. So Blondie is one of those bands like did we talk about Jethro Tall? Yeah, thick as a brick. Kind of like Jethro Tall, Steely Dan, Nine Inch Nails, which we might talk about.
SPEAKER_05We're at 40 minutes already.
SPEAKER_02Are we really?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Where people thought that was the name of like her, that was her. Like, well, sorry, people like people would f refer to Blondie as if she was Blondie. Yeah. And it was kind from what I found anyway, kind of named after. Like Blondie was kind of named because people would call her Blondie all the time. Uh-huh. That's true. But uh her name's not uh Debbie Harry, by the way. It's nothing like that.
SPEAKER_05I can't remember exactly what her name is, but Might you tell us that her name was Debbie Harry then?
SPEAKER_02Well, that's what you know, that's what everybody knows. Stage name knows her as.
SPEAKER_03Um you should start making up names for everyone.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I she said something about being in like about inspired by Dirty Harry. And I I didn't I didn't get the full story. It's it was somewhere in my when you were talking to her. Yeah, well she did. She did a lot for hip-hop.
SPEAKER_05Really?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, not on this album, but in I think uh 80, maybe 1980, she it was uh, you know, the song Rapture? You would know it if you heard it.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um you might be more familiar with Kara.
SPEAKER_05I think people can hear me shrugging my shoulders.
SPEAKER_02If you want to see Leslie Shrug her shoulders, check out YouTube. No, but she did so she actually raps. It's not the greatest rap, it's better than like who's the who's the girl who who's the they used to call her the kindergarten rapper. Oh, that you hate uh uh Ken Kinja or Kinja?
SPEAKER_05No, oh yeah, I'll think of it.
SPEAKER_02Anyways, it's Kesha. Kesha, yeah, yeah. It's not it's better than Kesha, but it's not, it's not uh it's not MC Light or Lady of Rage. It's uh but she did a bunch of shout-outs to like Fab Five Freddy and Grandmaster Flash. And this was at a time when like hip hop I don't know why I'm talking about Rapture's not even on this album, but it was at a it was at a time when hip-hop was in its infancy. And sh and basically she took like Blondie was on top of the world at this point, so she propelled it. Kind of like with like the Aerosmith run DMC a few years later, that that whole mashup. Like it was one of those really groundbreaking breaking milestone moments for for making hip hop mainstream. So a lot of uh hip hip hoppers, a lot of heads like to uh give a shout out to Blondie.
SPEAKER_05All right.
SPEAKER_02Um, but so Fade Away and Radiate, do you like that song a lot?
SPEAKER_05I did.
SPEAKER_02I really like that tune.
SPEAKER_05That's yeah, I felt like that to me was a bit more rock and roll than some of the other stuff on the album.
SPEAKER_02I just like the the mood of it. And uh do you know who Robert Fripp is?
SPEAKER_05No.
SPEAKER_02He he's like one of those guitarist guitarists. Like a lot of a lot of like gear heads and folks who like getting the most out of their guitar, like idolize Robert Fripp. He was in King Crims King Crimson. I'm not like a huge Robert Fripp guy, but he's he's great and he's awesome on this album. He has a adds a ton to it. They really wanted to get him on there. Um, I think he's been a little bit of a of a session guy, or at least he's played on a lot of a lot of stuff. But, anyways, that's part of part of the reason I love the song is because the guitar is great. Um, this whole album has a lot of sweet sweet tracks. Guitar licks, and the the drummer is fantastic, and uh yeah, Chris Stein and Blondie or uh Debbie Harry, they had a little bit of a relationship. Oh apparently recording of this was a bit of a mess. Like they're really immature, always fighting with each other, always like there'd be times there'd be like about to record a song, and she'd be like finishing the lyrics for it, you know, which is actually pretty awesome. I love stories like that. But um, yeah, this this was one of they got a little bit of uh heat for this, kind of like in the way I guess like Bob Dylan did, but kind of when he crossed over from folk to like electric, um, where like they were too because they they kind of came from like the punk scene. Uh they started off playing Is this like too mainstream-y? Yeah, like too, what did they call it? Like too too pop to be punk and too punk to be pop kind of thing.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But I mean, it's still one of the greatest selling albums of all time. I mean, it was a huge, huge, massive success. And I I I really like it a lot. I will probably be listening to a bit more Blondie in the coming days.
SPEAKER_05I'm sure mine will factor its way into my algorithm now.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, what do you what I mean? Tell me.
SPEAKER_05I I oh I I liked it. I liked it a lot. Some songs I don't have any real specific things to say.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_05And that's that's me. You you I just want to talk about what time it is.
SPEAKER_02Okay, okay. Let's keep moving.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we we Because what else are we gonna because I can't remember 90 minutes and my soul starts to die.
SPEAKER_02Okay, okay, okay, okay. So let's move on.
SPEAKER_05So you can continue to look at it as I'm sitting here.
SPEAKER_02I'm almost done with carrying comfort. We'll talk about it next week. Okay. Um I was gonna talk about Bruno Mars' Grammy performance. Do we want to do that at all?
SPEAKER_05I would highly recommend you check out any live Bruno Mars, but the most recent Grammys are amazing.
SPEAKER_02What do you do? I just might. Yeah, I just think that song kind of sounds like uh Leo Sayers um You Make Me Feel Like Dancing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it does. Make me feel like dancing.
SPEAKER_02Good, good. I'm glad you're glad you think that too.
SPEAKER_05I'll just say that a shout out to the his band who also was singing and dancing. Yeah. Choreographed to I mean, sometimes I've like watched people, I'm like, how do they know if they're gonna go left or right? And they're all going the same way. Like, I would forget.
SPEAKER_02I imagine they practice a few times.
SPEAKER_05I know, but they're also thinking about playing their horns and singing harmony.
SPEAKER_02Trombone player, if you're listening, buddy. Uh my wife uh has got a little bit of a thing for you. That's right.
SPEAKER_05Anyway.
SPEAKER_02Uh battered, anything you want to say more about Blondie?
SPEAKER_05No parallel lines. We gotta keep it.
SPEAKER_02Okay, okay, okay, whoa. I watched the battered bastards.
Battered Bastards of Baseball Documentary Discussion
SPEAKER_03Whoa, whoa, whoa. We did though, because you brought you're the one that brought up Bruno Mars.
SPEAKER_02I know. I watched the Battered Bastards of Baseball.
SPEAKER_05Oh, what's that?
SPEAKER_02Uh it's a it was a movie on Netflix, uh 2016, I think. Uh, about the Portland Mavericks, which is a 70s single-A baseball team. They were the last I could see the look in your eye. You're just like, baseball documentary.
SPEAKER_05Two things that you I've trying to keep up.
SPEAKER_02It's honestly, I think you'd like it.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02First of all, Kurt Russell's in most of it.
SPEAKER_05How was that a documentary? Was he did he play?
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, so yeah, he played he played for them.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02And his dad, Bing Russell, was the owner. And Bing Russell was an actor. He was a uh they referred to him, I think, as a as a plumber, a plumber actor, because he just worked. He was in Bonanza, he was killed 126 times throughout uh all the westerns he's been in.
SPEAKER_07Oh wow.
SPEAKER_02He was uh in the music man, huge in the music man. Like he talked about the music man a lot, even in the documentary.
SPEAKER_05About baseball?
SPEAKER_02You would love being Russell. Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_05He was kind of just a is he as cute as Kurt Russell?
SPEAKER_02He's not. Oh no, no. Um, I'd say I don't know what Kurt Kurt's a nice blend of his mom and his and his dad. Okay. But it's a great documentary. It's it's pretty light, it's um, it's kind of moving. It's like about a ragtag group of people of of baseball players who basically I'll just I'll keep it short. The major league kind of just took over all the territories for baseball in in the country, and there was just one one holdout essentially, and it was Bing Russell's independent team of again double single A baseball, you know, single A, double A, triple A, and then majors. And no one expected anything of him. He got like a dirt got him for dirt cheap. He had tryouts, and like all these ball players from just all over the country came in to to try out, and uh I could elaborate more, but it was just a kind of a ragtag, like not bad news bears, but kind of that's really distracting.
SPEAKER_05I'm listening. It's a ragtag group, it's like bad news bears.
SPEAKER_02Well, he's just accumulating fur on the dog right now.
SPEAKER_05I did not I'm not accumulating, it's already there.
SPEAKER_02That dog has a name. That dog has a name. And dude, can you stop?
SPEAKER_05Gosh. There's so many things I can't do. I can't move my feet. I can't talk to somebody who's won't. I'm just petting him.
SPEAKER_02I'm not You're not just petting him. You're just styling his hair.
SPEAKER_03And now he's eating it.
SPEAKER_02And he's eating it.
SPEAKER_03Styling it.
SPEAKER_02Awesome. Okay, anyways, I highly recommend it. I'll I'll just I'll I'll cut it. I'll cut it off. Uh no, no spoilers.
SPEAKER_07Okay.
Nine Inch Nails Concert Breakdown
SPEAKER_02Okay. What else do you want to talk about? What book what book did you read?
SPEAKER_05Uh nothing.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_05Just the uh extreme ownership.
SPEAKER_02Okay. I haven't gotten any further. No motorcycle. Any kind of motorcycle anything?
SPEAKER_05No, no motorcycle at all.
SPEAKER_02Just talk about the Nine Inch Nails show that I went to real quick.
SPEAKER_05That of course. That's a see that's allowed.
SPEAKER_02Okay. I went to Nine Inch Nails concert over the weekend. First Nine Inch Nails concert. Uh uh Boys Noise opened up for them. Spell boys? Uh B uh Well, sorry.
SPEAKER_05I is it like kids?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05BOIs is a good thing.
SPEAKER_02It's actually pretty cool. I mean, it's not my not my thing. I was a little bummed that like so you know, down we're we were up in like the 300 level in the shot and scene.
SPEAKER_05So like nosebleeds.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. But down, you know, down where everybody's standing, like by the stage, first of all, there were three stages that were that were used.
SPEAKER_05Oh wow. Even during the nine inch nails show.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, mainly two, but yeah. Um, and no one was like no one was dancing or doing anything. They were just kind of standing there, which is kind of I mean there was like a mosh pit once nine inch nails came out. Oh, but nobody for boys noise. No one, no one for boys noise. I would totally have danced to boys. I was getting down for boys noise. Yeah, so the the show, first of all, just incredibly tight. Like I ne I don't think I've ever been to a show with with somebody as huge as Trent Reznor where where he came out on time and ended on time.
SPEAKER_05I feel like I would like this trent Trent Reznor. As a human, just as a person. Thank you for starting on time, sir.
SPEAKER_02He's pretty dark.
SPEAKER_05He started on time, though. You know how he did. Yeah, he's right to my heart.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was actually really cool the way they did it. So Boys Noise finished his his thing.
SPEAKER_05Like Boys Noise is a one person?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah, as far as I could tell.
SPEAKER_05So it's probably like an apostrophe apostrophe Z. B-O-Y apostrophe Z.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_02Or maybe it's an Oh wow. Huh. It's a correction scorer, perhaps. Um so as soon as Boys Noise finished basically the last note of his song, he his stage goes down. He's on the far side. Oh, that's cool. And then in the middle, there's a big middle stage that was just kind of veiled. It was just covered in black, this giant cube. Looked like the big uh, I don't want to offend anybody. But okay. So as soon as Boy's Noise stopped, the cube unveiled, and Trent Reznor was out on the piano, and he opens up. I got the set list here for for those who care about such things. Played oh I opened up with Wish, and it was kind of like they start off real slow on the P on the keys, just him singing. These girls were like the the scene there was way different than Bob James.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I bet.
SPEAKER_02Bob James was like a bunch of folks in their Sunday best, yeah. You know, and hats and I mentioned it was like it was like the Matrix, kind of, yeah. Which is exactly what I wanted to see. But uh, yeah, but uh women uh and I mentioned men too, love Trend Resnner. He's he's a handsome guy.
SPEAKER_05Is he cute? I don't know what he looks like.
SPEAKER_02He's 60 now, but uh yeah, look him up. He's he's I think he's a good looking dude. Um and uh Atticus Ross. So nine inch nails, I'll I'll read the said list in a second, but at nine inch nails, I I I'm not a huge like I don't listen to a ton of them. No, you don't think so?
SPEAKER_05He's a little uh stalloney. Okay, like a his face a little long. Anyway, continue.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_05We're all allowed to have our own opinions. That's fine. He looks good here.
SPEAKER_02He's not gonna be on Mount Rushmore.
SPEAKER_05He looks good when his face is covered with a beard. Okay, keep going.
SPEAKER_02He's got a little bit of a uh um Negan look to him. Yeah, he does.
SPEAKER_05Negan's cuter though.
SPEAKER_02Jeff Jeffrey crab. Okay. Alright, so um, yeah, Atticus Ross is the other official member of Nine Inch Nails. Up until I think 20, when he whenever he joined, about 10 years ago, um, it was just Rasner was the only member. So Nine Inch Nails, people say them.
SPEAKER_05It's just trend.
SPEAKER_02More of a he. Yeah. But he's got touring guys he tours with.
SPEAKER_05Right. We'd have to, right?
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes. Um Josh Freese was the drummer. That dude was great. He was my favorite part of the show, I'd say. Uh he was just, he's played for, I wrote down some of the bands he's played. The Vandals. He's played for Devo, Guns of Roses, Devo, Paramour.
SPEAKER_05Oh.
SPEAKER_02Perfect Circle. Uh, Sublime with Rome Ramirez. Uh, he must have replaced Bud during the show or something. I don't know. But, anyways, he was sick. He was just great. Uh according to Trent Reznor, the best F and drummer on the planet. He liked the F-word a lot.
SPEAKER_07Oh, I bet.
SPEAKER_02Um, so he played Wish, March of the Pigs, Piggy, The Lovers, Less Than, Heresy. He'd like that song. Perfect Drug, The Hand That Feeds, Head Like a Hole, and Hurt. He finished with Hurt.
SPEAKER_05Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_02Do you know any of those songs?
SPEAKER_05I know Hurt.
SPEAKER_02I bet you know uh well he played closer, too.
SPEAKER_05I only know Hurt because of Johnny Cash, Jonathan Cash, Money.
SPEAKER_02Johnny Cash did uh did a great Trent Trent Reznor approved. You know, uh, you know who Trent Reznor's first major influence was?
SPEAKER_05Who?
SPEAKER_02The Eagles.
SPEAKER_05Wow.
SPEAKER_02Sounds nothing like the Eagles, but he you saw the Eagles back in 76.
SPEAKER_05And he was like, this is for me.
SPEAKER_02And he said, I want to do, I want to do this. And he did. You did it, Trent.
SPEAKER_05He did it, Trent.
SPEAKER_02The show was the show was really cool.
SPEAKER_05Does he have children?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. Corrections Corner. Next week we'll find out about all about the corner. Corrections and RD corner? Sure, Roll-up Corner.
SPEAKER_05Follow up R D. I like R D.
SPEAKER_02R D.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Um They stands for Robin Desley.
SPEAKER_02Honey, you don't even know your name. So it just like, first of all, you wouldn't have liked it. It was super, super loud. Really loud.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I know I wouldn't have liked it. I'm really glad you got to go with all your buds.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was cool. It was for my buddy Dwangle's Bachelor Party, and uh we all went. No one was huge Niters Nails fan, but everybody was just happy to be there and just everybody there likes music. So it was just like, let's go see somebody who's yeah. So it was a great experience. Just the whole the lights and the visuals and just the way they were synced. It was it was it was just perfectly played. Like it was very polished, very engineered. It was way different from like a lot of the jazz stuff that it we go and see.
SPEAKER_05Which is just people coming on playing their instruments essentially.
SPEAKER_02Just going, not a production. Yes, this was like an experience, and it was a great one. I really enjoyed it. Um the cameraman, I want to just give a shout out to him. So they have like screens up the whole time and um kind of just getting close-ups on the people.
SPEAKER_05If you've been to a big concert, you've seen that, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but this camera guy, you he's just running around, like literally sprinting at times, and he's squatting and he's doing like these like isometric like walking lunges while he's trying to get under the drums from different angles. This guy must have been in really good shape.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, really fit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Well, have you seen have you seen that like when they when you watch like figure skaters and then like you they zoom out and show the figure skater with the guy in the that's ice skating with the camera around. Oh yeah. It's like that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He might have had ice skates on.
SPEAKER_05He should have.
SPEAKER_02He would have been a lot faster if you did. I should uh if you hey, but if you're listening, Mr.
SPEAKER_05Camera guy.
SPEAKER_02Maybe lose the ice skates if you were if you wore them. Um but yeah, Dynast Nails, man, they've uh Trent Rezzer's worth about a hundred million dollars.
SPEAKER_05Good for Trent.
SPEAKER_02He's uh they've had they did uh just a lot of soundtracks, and I mean they've a lot of huge success. I was a little bummed they did not play Dead Souls, which is my favorite Night Hales song. It's on the crow soundtrack. So it's a great tune. Um you want to move off of Night Hales, we've got to keep moving off.
SPEAKER_05I only do because we've been talking for an hour and almost 10 minutes.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_05Well, we've been talking for 57 minutes.
SPEAKER_02All right, here we go. We're moving on to X-Files. Should we? Let's do it. Let's do it.
SPEAKER_05Now, this is my favorite part of the podcast.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_05When we get to the topic that I am prepared to talk about.
SPEAKER_02So we really enjoy talking about shows and movies, things we've watched. I think it's slowly becoming our main topics, even the last time we did migraines. We've talked about crock pots.
SPEAKER_05I thought last time we did Event Horizon.
unknownOh, no.
SPEAKER_05Migraines was before that.
SPEAKER_01Uh oh, you're right.
SPEAKER_05I am right because I just did the post for it.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Sorry about that.
SPEAKER_05We're two ups behind posting. Okay. Ahead of posting, rather. Anyway, so yeah, we did Event Horizon movie last week, and now we're doing uh a two-part episode of X-Files, but it's not like a to-be-continued. It was like two standalone episodes, but they went together because they were about the same guy.
SPEAKER_02Yep, season.
SPEAKER_05And they were separated by about what?
SPEAKER_02Twenty-some episodes. Uh separated by about twenty episodes.
SPEAKER_05I was not allowed to watch the X-Files because I used to suffer from terrible nightmares. I've told the story about my dad in my bed.
SPEAKER_02On the podcast?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I don't think so.
SPEAKER_05Haven't I?
SPEAKER_02Uh I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Should I tell it?
SPEAKER_02Tell it maybe I mean, tell the one of the 27, I'm sure, hasn't heard it.
SPEAKER_05That's true. Uh so I used to have really bad nightmares, and I was literally afraid of everything. I I do have vague memories of my sister getting me out of my crib and telling me that I needed to be good or that the devil would take me to hell. So maybe that's where it started. She's so sweet. I know. She's very doubtful to it. Um, so anyway, maybe that's where it all started. But anyway, I was very, very scared of things. And when I was very young, my mom would like, I think she just I don't think she cared as much about me being scared as she probably, now that I'm a mom, I think it probably was more about her just wanting to sleep all night long and like be left alone.
SPEAKER_02It's understandable. Uh-huh. She's allowed that.
SPEAKER_05Yes, yes. So I wasn't allowed to watch anything scary. And that the music terrified me because my sister loved it, so she would watch it and I would have to like go somewhere else. Because you know, back in the day with one TV in the family room, and that da da da da da da creepy opening song. So anyway.
SPEAKER_02It's great. Uh I mean classics. Clark was watching it with us. He came up in the last five minutes, and he's like, This is what that song's from? Yeah. Yeah, Mark's knowledge.
SPEAKER_05They sample it on like reels and and TikTok and stuff. Um, YouTube Shorts. Clark's our son, by the way. That's right. Uh so anyway, I was one night I couldn't sleep because I'd had a nightmare, and I woke up in the middle of the night, my window was open, and I was on the second floor, and my dog was on the outside, and he was barking, barking, barking, and so I was just like absolutely terrified, convinced that someone was climbing up the side of the house, and that's why the dog was barking. And so I screamed and pretended to have had a nightmare.
SPEAKER_02That actually makes a lot of sense with old tombs. He was a climber.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah, it's relevant.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05So my mom came in to see why I was screaming, and then I told her I was scared, and so she is like, let's go downstairs and we'll put the dog in the house, and he won't bark anymore. So we go downstairs, it's the middle of the night, like 12 or 1, and we go back upstairs, and we had never turned on any lights or anything. And she goes around my bed in the dark to shut the window, and I start to climb into my bed, and there is a person in my bed.
SPEAKER_02A man.
SPEAKER_05A man.
SPEAKER_02And I'm like Hutchinson.
SPEAKER_05Scream, who's that?
SPEAKER_02You played Tim.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_05So I start screaming and running in and out of the room. My mom is screaming. Why are you screaming? My sister had her own phone in her room, so she was about ready to call 911 because she could hear us all screaming.
SPEAKER_03Finally, the person in the bed like reached up and turned the ceiling fan light on, and it was my dad.
SPEAKER_01He just fell asleep.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he went in to see what we were doing and fell asleep on our bed in my bed.
SPEAKER_01Classic hour.
SPEAKER_05And I was just like, literally, the only thing I'm afraid of is someone in my room. I'm afraid of all versions of that.
SPEAKER_02He's probably like, what was all screaming about last night?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I love that he wasn't even trying to scare you. He just fell asleep in your bed.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, no, he just was like, What are you guys doing? And he just slept. But I wrote in my notes of this watching this that my mom was right to keep me from watching the as well. Because there were some moments where I was like, like reaching out for your hand, because it's like scary.
SPEAKER_02It it was kind of scary. Yeah. I I I mean, yes, it's it's a scary.
SPEAKER_05Like there's some the way they shoot it is scary because like they you know how like when you're in a you're watching a show and like they the the main character will be off to the side, so you're kind of primed to watch like what's coming from behind. Well they kept doing that, but then he wouldn't be there and it would like they'd they'd have a different angle and he'd be somewhere else. So anyway.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Tombs.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, this was like the first monster episode.
SPEAKER_05Oh.
SPEAKER_02They kind of they wanted, I guess the producers wanted to kind of branch out a little not just have aliens.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, this was like a bit uh apparently this this whole the filming of all these was just a a big mess. Like blondie parallel parallel line style.
SPEAKER_05Really?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I just uh people weren't getting along and they didn't you know they didn't know what to do, and people were questioning Doug Hudginson was changing things, and he's gotta be the king of the creeps. He played Tomb.
SPEAKER_05Oh, did you just say that already? And I forgot his name already.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, he he was um yeah, Eugene Victor Tombs. He was in uh The Green Mile. You haven't seen that, have you?
SPEAKER_05I can't remember. Is that the one no, I'm thinking Shaw Shank. I don't think I've seen The Green Mile.
SPEAKER_02No, with Michael Clark Duncan. No. Stephen King.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I think I've read it. I think I've read it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, really? Okay. Well, he was a jerk in that. He was uh he was in Conair, he was in Lost, he was he in Conair?
SPEAKER_05I guess I can't remember.
SPEAKER_02I shouldn't have said it.
SPEAKER_05We'll tune in next week.
SPEAKER_02He was in Punisher Warzone, which was my favorite Punisher movie.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Um, with he was Looney Ben Jim, if you remember him. He was he uh got into a little bit of trouble for. Marrying a 16-year-old.
SPEAKER_05How old was he?
SPEAKER_02Like 51-ish.
SPEAKER_05He should have gotten in more than a little bit of trouble.
SPEAKER_02Joel McHill used used to love grilling them on the soup. Yeah, he's uh he's a total uh he's a total creep.
X-Files: Squeeze Episode Discussion
SPEAKER_05Sounds like it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um, but you know, he's he's kind of a great actor. He's perfect for he's the perfect typecast creepy dude like so we watched an episode called Squeeze, and they were were they both from season one? Yes, season one, episode three, and season one, episode twenty-one, I believe.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, so uh Squeeze was the first one. Basically, there's people are getting killed, or a person gets killed, and there's no sign of how the person could have gotten in or out. Uh and then of course, David DuCovney's character, Foxy Mulder. How do you say it? Mulder or Mulder?
SPEAKER_02Those both sound the same to me. Mulder.
SPEAKER_05I think my sister had a boyfriend who used to get really angry with how we said it. And he'd be like, it's not Mulder, it's Mulder. It was not Uncle Dan. Just saying. I won't say his name was.
SPEAKER_02This is the this is the only episode uh I think it was the first one of the two-parter where she where uh Scully calls him Fox. That's the only time.
SPEAKER_05He says don't call me that.
SPEAKER_02It's the only time other than the last episode, I think.
SPEAKER_05Was that in the first one though, or the second one?
SPEAKER_02Maybe it was the second one. I think it was the second one when they were doing surveillance.
SPEAKER_05Okay, so anyway, he f he sees and basically the person's liver was ripped out. So then they make this connection that every thirty years five people are getting killed and their livers are getting ripped out. They for the last hundred years or something.
SPEAKER_02They pick liver apparently just because they thought it was the funniest of the organs.
SPEAKER_05Well, it's also the most sustaining of the things.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Like it made sense for the plot.
SPEAKER_05I I so I question some of these uh So basically they're trying to figure out they're trying to find out who's doing it, and then they get a fingerprint, and the fingerprint mat matches someone who's over a hundred over a hundred years old.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Ninety started in nineteen oh three.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it was when they had the first murder.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Uh and so they're like, well, it can't be him.
SPEAKER_02Or no, nineteen oh seven, I think.
SPEAKER_05No, I think three, because it was three six then thirty-three sixty-three-ninety three, because that's when the episode came out.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_05And then then and then we'll so we'll we'll talk, we'll we'll do our notes here in a second. But then the second episode that we watched about it was basically in the in the first episode they catch him and and he's like hospitalized in like a criminal psychiatric hospital.
SPEAKER_02First episode's called Squeeze, by the way.
SPEAKER_05And the second one's called Tombs, and in the second one they let him out, of course. Because he's got such a good thing. I got some questions about that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'd love to know your opinion.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, sure. I have him. I have one. The very first sentence I wrote, crazy ass doctors, no one would ever let that guy out.
SPEAKER_02So Leslie used to work in psychiatric facilities.
SPEAKER_05Anyway, I'd also like to know how so in the second one, Mulder is obsessed with his whereabouts because he believes that he will re offend because he needs to have five livers and he only successfully got four livers in the first episode. Okay, so that's this that's the essence of the two Eps. So now, let's see what you got for us.
SPEAKER_02What I got for you?
SPEAKER_05And squeeze.
SPEAKER_02Well, um, I thought again, I think they casted the even though he's a a a creep, I think they casted the perfect guy. I think he uh I wrote down that he looks like a uh looks like eleven and Austin Butler had a baby.
SPEAKER_05Who's Austin Butler?
SPEAKER_02Uh he played Elvis in the Oh okay. He was in Dune 2. He was like really creepy white. Well, there are a lot of white guys in that creepy white guys in that, but he was the creepiest.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well that's not even true.
SPEAKER_05But it's I thought that the opening sequence of that was terrifying. Of Dune 2 or squeeze in this episode. Because the guy's watching him from the sewer.
SPEAKER_02The business. Oh, yeah, very uh Pennywise. Yes. It's actually the whole story kind of has a little bit of a penny. Didn't Pennywise do like periodic killings? Wasn't it he like go rest for a while and then come back?
SPEAKER_05And also he would like use the the pipes and things like that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So that's I like that he's going after I mean he he he doesn't seem to discriminate too much, but I like that he's going after large men.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's a nice change of pace.
SPEAKER_05It is, it was really nice. I didn't expect that guy's the voice to be so nice when he was on the phone calling his wife to say that he was gonna be like, I know.
SPEAKER_02I thought he was gonna I thought like a secretary was gonna come in and get under his desk and do something. Yeah. But uh no, he was just a nice guy. He's just like a nice guy.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, poor guy.
SPEAKER_02Ripped out, not cut out.
SPEAKER_05And it says barehanded liver ripping out. How?
SPEAKER_02Well, he's got those elongated fingers.
SPEAKER_05Does that make them strong enough to rip a liver out?
SPEAKER_02It does. Yeah. Do you have that on very good authority? Of the many, many martial arts that I've studied, uh huh. That was uh that's featured in a lot of them.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02It's like if guys who have the longest fingers, they normally get put in a workshop to go, yeah.
SPEAKER_05It's like weight class, but for fingers.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. The first anytime you go to a martial arts class, you they line you up by rank and then they ask you to put your fingers out. And then they say, you, you, you, you, you, come with me. That's little piggy, come with me.
SPEAKER_05That's right.
SPEAKER_02That's more for toes.
SPEAKER_05We, we, we.
SPEAKER_02That's advance.
SPEAKER_05All the way home.
SPEAKER_02I don't know how he ripped their levers off.
SPEAKER_05Do you think his toes grew?
SPEAKER_02He's he had some sort of super strength though. And he had some ability, at least in his fingers, because he could climb up a sheer face wall.
SPEAKER_05Like kind of like a gecko.
SPEAKER_02You made an Alex Honnold reference, uh, the free solo guy.
SPEAKER_05I did.
SPEAKER_02He'd be a great Alex Hondold, if he really applied himself, would be great at climbing into people's windows and ripping.
SPEAKER_05He really would decide to do something with his life.
SPEAKER_02Could Alex Honnold rip write us in audience will like it a gym. You know what?
SPEAKER_05I believe that he could rip your liver out, but his hands have to be crazy. Yeah. His grip strength is strong enough to rip the liver out.
SPEAKER_02I bet he could.
SPEAKER_05How do you spell his last name?
SPEAKER_02Uh H-O-N-O-L-D.
SPEAKER_05Oh, like Ronald with a H in the B.
SPEAKER_02Maybe, I'm guessing.
SPEAKER_05Uh I wrote it, I liked their the banter between the between the two of them.
SPEAKER_02They chemist their chemistry is is great. But it it was like early in the series too, so it was almost like they were, I don't know, still like getting a bit of a you know skepticism healthy skepticism, but she can't deny the evidence. And I love the whole just um this is kind of over both over both of them, but that they have just absolutely rock solid evidence across the board.
SPEAKER_05And they're like, you are so crazy and stupid, this can't be it.
SPEAKER_02It's just too crazy to but then they got, you know, what did they fingerprints, they have his whereabouts linked to him.
SPEAKER_05Eventually they have his bite mark.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, his bite. Not just his dental records. And that the freaking uh the guy, the Scully's old buddy from from uh wherever she got her her ex fire ghost degree. Um, she went to like uh what'd she go to like West Point or something? I have no idea. Anyways, he was uh obnoxious. Yeah, he was like, Donald uh Donald Log, I think is his name, or Logue. He was in you're not gonna care or know what I'm talking about, but he was in V uh Blade. He's like one of the biggest jerks in Blade. Uh, no, Blade.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I've seen Blade. You made me watch it. I've seen it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and Chris Christofferson.
SPEAKER_05Aww.
SPEAKER_02Aw. Um anyways, I hated that guy.
SPEAKER_05My uh a thing that I liked that when they were um they were like uh staking out the building where the murder had happened and they were in the parking garage. Yeah, she wouldn't close her door because she didn't want to make noise. And then she ran across the parking garage in heels. I didn't even know. That's great.
SPEAKER_02Uh I love uh I'm always a huge fan of the trope where and I can't think of a single other place, but I know I've seen it a million times, where the screws come out kind of by themselves from the other side. It's a great little touch. And he does that, what, at least twice.
SPEAKER_05At least two times, yeah. Yeah, when uh Well, three times. Because he does it in uh in DuCovny's apartment in the second episode.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay. Does he do it in shoulder pants apartment or house? You don't talk about it.
SPEAKER_05No, he comes in through the fireplace like Santa Claus in that one.
SPEAKER_02That's right. That's right. Do you know they actually use a contortionist for like a real contortionist for a lot of people?
SPEAKER_05Did he like film all that?
SPEAKER_02Called uh contortionist neighbor, I believe, was Pepper.
SPEAKER_05Pepper?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was um it was Nathan Lane.
SPEAKER_05Man, Nathan Lane, has he subscribed yet?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I can't wait till he dies and be in our concert. I hope so. Um has he subscribed? I don't know. I love the fingerprint software and uh all the software that they use. Or the and the bite mark software the dental record one. Was that in the second one? I have notes.
SPEAKER_05I have notes about that.
SPEAKER_02I love 90s.
SPEAKER_05Just texted dad.
SPEAKER_02I oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05All right.
SPEAKER_02Um so we're gonna go pick up what we're gonna do.
SPEAKER_05Everybody just hold on. For you it'll be no time at all. For us, it's gonna be at 30 minutes. We're gonna go pick him up, pick up our child, and we'll be right back. Can you tell me some more about the computer stuff you want to talk about?
SPEAKER_02Um actually, I was just yeah, I'll tell you some more about some computer stuff here. Okay. From the X Files that we were talking about. Yeah, that's what we were at. Yeah, that's gonna be wild, wow. It's gonna be so weird from ELSI. I'd go pick up Clark from a basketball game. And I was listening to Todd Rundgren, Can We Still Be Friends? Do you know that song?
SPEAKER_05Why Can't We Be Friends?
SPEAKER_02No, no, that's war.
SPEAKER_00It's uh Can't play this game anymore, but can we still be f You know?
SPEAKER_05Uh vaguely. It sounds very eighties to me. Sounds like something I would like.
SPEAKER_02He said, uh, I think it's 70s, but he said, uh I said, I can't listen to I can't hear this song without thinking of double dubber, and he was like, I can. He's such a bug. Anyway, tell us about Xbox computes. I was just saying, I love the they do this in this episode and several others, if memory serves, but they do the whole Doogie Hauser thing where she's at her computer and she's going through like her notes and typing her thoughts and all sorts of stuff, and but it's a great way to like explain what's going on. Doogie Hauser does at the end of the episode. Did you watch Doogie Hauser?
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah, heck yeah. It was like a family show for us.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Oh, was it really? Oh, because your dad's a doctor. Yeah. So he just watches everything with doctors, even things. Even little kid doctors. Yeah. Baby doctors. He's a huge doc McStuff is so no, I love I just the episode has that.
SPEAKER_05That's that's why it when we talk about the software that these enhance, like they were like, like, oh, if we take this fingerprint and stretch it out, then it matches the stretched out fingerprint we have over here.
SPEAKER_02I I wrote Of course that was I in the that I thought was actually kind of like, yeah, why not try it? Why not do it?
SPEAKER_05Um I wrote Oh, I wrote enhance the fingerprint. You know how you're always getting so mad when people are enhancing surveillance videos. But then also the bite when in the other episode when they like have his dental records and they somehow are able to like match it perfectly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you're like too. You're like, You're gonna write that down?
SPEAKER_05Did you?
SPEAKER_02I did.
SPEAKER_05Um and then I hate I hate polygraphs, but I loved the polygraph served the purpose of him of of establishing Mulder's uh insanity.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he's like, he's off the charts here where he says the.
SPEAKER_05Well, because they're like, Are you over a hundred years old? He's like, Oh, I had her ask that. It must be a control question. He's like, No, no, I had her ask that.
SPEAKER_02I love oh I but the but the the but when he's going over, he's when he's pointing out the results, he's like, No, look, these two right here. He's like, Mulder, even I had a reaction to that. Even I had a reaction to that question. It's pretty great.
SPEAKER_05Okay, and then um Oh, I wrote Mulder, I can hear you. Oh, they're like so mean to Mulder, that's right. This guy's a jerk, and I you can't yeah. He's just like looking at him like I'm right here, dude. Um it all felt very early series establishing character to me.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05For sure. What was episode three, so I guess they were doing uh and then I also there there's a part where she's wearing a necklace, which they have to sorry, I'm so sorry, everybody. That was not that was not intentional.
SPEAKER_02Leslie just fell down the stairs again.
SPEAKER_05Uh they have to draw attention to the necklace because it's like a pretty pivotal item later, but they do it by having him he's basically groping her. Mulder is touching her necklace. Oh, yeah. And he's like basically touching it's like a long necklace that's hanging down pretty low between, you know, her decoletage, as they say.
SPEAKER_02Is it what is that word again?
SPEAKER_05Descolletage.
SPEAKER_02Well, spell it.
SPEAKER_05It's like your upper chest. It's French. We could ask Peppy Le Play.
SPEAKER_02Is it so is that a body part?
SPEAKER_05It's like your reference to like your in between your neck and the tops of your Whoa. Yeah, your decoletage.
SPEAKER_02Is it spelled with uh D-U-C-H.
SPEAKER_05It's D-E-C-Dovny. Just let us just let us know what's going on. I feel like that might be a little vanilla for him.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, a little bit of it. Um He's more of uh Tim Speed. I wonder if they ever had any crazy parties on s on the side having Doug Hutchinson. That's terrible. No, apparently Doug Hutchinson even creeped out David Duchovney because he wanted to get get naked for that for the last even David DuCovney. David Ducovny. He was naked, wasn't he? Yeah.
SPEAKER_05It was his like they were originally He was like, You and you also get naked, David. Yeah, David's like I don't think I need to be naked.
SPEAKER_02I wouldn't be investigating for a second here. No, no thanks.
SPEAKER_05That's a new Dickelus.
SPEAKER_02He's like Jillian Anderson, though, if is there a part for her to get covered in slime?
SPEAKER_05Wait, we haven't got to that part. Okay, yeah, well I'm skipping where I I did write that I and I kind of mentioned this already, but I really felt like the cinematography is it holds up and doesn't feel dated. That makes sense.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05The storytelling doesn't feel dated.
SPEAKER_02No, I I I was I I wasn't rolling my eyes too much. Other than the soft, but honestly, I the I could very few I've seen very few movies or shows ever they get software right.
SPEAKER_05Or even come close to Well, that's what we were talking about in the last week of the news. This actually wasn't that bad in the world. The movie math.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05It's like it they could be saying anything they want. Just fold the paper up and put a pen through it and say this is how it works. No one's gonna know. Bite marks sync up with the do you I'm I'm like just continuing to go. Did you have other things to say?
SPEAKER_02Cont continuing to go on what?
SPEAKER_05I just have so many notes.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, keep talking.
SPEAKER_05Do you have notes?
SPEAKER_02Uh I do.
SPEAKER_05But do you want to jump in?
SPEAKER_02Well, I want to say that I really liked uh detective Frank Briggs.
SPEAKER_05Which one's that?
SPEAKER_02He's the guy, it's another trope I really love.
SPEAKER_05Um wait, is he in the second episode?
SPEAKER_02He's in both of them. He's the guy who was tracking tombs his whole like his whole career.
SPEAKER_05Oh, the sheriff. Yeah, the sheriff. He wasn't a detective.
SPEAKER_02He wasn't? Oh. He was a sheriff.
SPEAKER_05Well he probably did detective.
SPEAKER_02But he's got the wheelchair. I love the wheelchair. The old the old expert and the wheelchair is like one of my.
SPEAKER_05He is in both of them.
SPEAKER_02But he's a great actor. He seemed like it. I was impressed by him. I thought he'd a good one.
SPEAKER_05I liked him.
SPEAKER_02It was like kind of like a little very small part, but he he acted the the snot out of it.
SPEAKER_05The slightly they believe the bile, you might say.
SPEAKER_02You know what the bile was?
SPEAKER_05What?
SPEAKER_02It was like i uh cake icing. Like clear cake cake icing.
SPEAKER_05Like royal icing. I bet it was delicious.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Yeah. Everybody kept licking Doug Hutchinson.
SPEAKER_05So you so they know that this guy is probably a hundred years old and and they suspicion that he's hibernating.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_05And they go find where he's been living for the last 100 years, and with no backup or anything, they just start skulking around an abandoned building.
SPEAKER_02Sculling around, if you will.
SPEAKER_05Sculling around an abandoned building.
SPEAKER_02Can I can I stop you right there?
SPEAKER_05Sure.
SPEAKER_02What's interesting about that, when they first enter that room with their flashlights, that scene is what they use in the intro.
SPEAKER_05Oh my globulin. That's amazing. That's kind of amazing. I love that.
SPEAKER_02What's got globulin from?
SPEAKER_05Globulin is like a blood.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I'm thinking of Fremulon. Never mind.
SPEAKER_03I don't know what I could be wrong about globulin, but I think it's something to do with your blood. It's not hemoglobin, but something.
SPEAKER_02Correction core.
SPEAKER_05Sure. It's probably nothing. And basically we discover that he hibernates in bile.
SPEAKER_01Paper mache.
SPEAKER_05Is disgusting.
unknownI love that.
SPEAKER_05He's like, oh, you're making crafts. Because he makes himself a nest out of paper strips and bile.
SPEAKER_02He just licks licks the paper, puts it on. Yeah, he's got like three of those going on during the two episodes.
SPEAKER_05So then he figures out that Scully and Mulder are on to him. So he starts stalking her. And here's my I haven't given out a lot of top tips lately.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, please.
SPEAKER_05But I have one. If you're at home by yourself and bile falls on you from the ceiling, you should leave the house.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah. Come on, go.
SPEAKER_05Don't go find your gun and try to shoot the source of the bile dripping out of your scene. That's a horror movie. You can't shoot anything in a horror movie with a gun.
SPEAKER_02It's episode three. She's learning.
SPEAKER_05She's learning.
SPEAKER_02Can I also say that all X-Files agents need jujitsu?
SPEAKER_05Maybe they could get a new belt like our son did.
SPEAKER_02So there's a uh little um there's a mo every time we watch the fight scene. Every time we pretty much watch any fight scene ever, it's always uh I'm always nitpicking what you know what somebody does when the larger person is on the bottom.
SPEAKER_05But they got the Hollywood budget. They could hire someone who could teach people how to do anything at all that looks like But you know the truth is the a lot of uh I bet Toms has had a hundred years to learn jujitsu, so yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02He's got those those freaking fingers.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he'd be he'd be in that separate room tournament.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he'd be I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_05It's like ages ago. It's like pre-picking Clark Up.
SPEAKER_02It's pre-taught Roger. Um what else you got on it?
SPEAKER_05On the first one I wrote, I was sufficiently creeped way the H-E-L-L out by that, and my mom was correct in not letting me watch that show. All right, episode two, they're gonna let him out.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, the the whole necklace thing though, that's where she says, I'm snagged on something. Yeah. She's crawling through. Is that what you're talking about? Why they needed the necklace to check off.
X-Files: Tooms Episode Discussion
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay, so yeah, that matters in some of the stuff I was gonna say for the second episode. The reason Mulder figures out that she's in danger from him when she shows when he shows up and drips by all from her ceiling, is he goes back to that abandoned building and sees all these trophies from the victims, and one of them was from one a couple of the victims from earlier in the episode, and then he sees her necklace there, the one that he was like, basically fondling. Okay, so remember that he found the serial killer's trophy stash. Just remember that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And he stripped that necklace right off of her dec decal decoletage. Just right off of it.
SPEAKER_05Nutilarity. Okay. Episode the second one. Episode 23? 20 something? Tombs. Okay, now they're gonna let he's been in the psychiatric hospital, now they're gonna let him out. Hate me.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Um first of all, I would like to know have you ever had anybody as creepy as Tombs? Leslie is a music therapist, she worked in psychiatric facilities with in like maximum security with people who have done some very, very, very heinous things. And uh, have you ever has there ever been anything that extreme? And if not in in any case, a follow-up question is what kind of music therapy would you do with him?
SPEAKER_05Well, first of all, are you asking me if I ever had a plant a patient that was over a hundred years old that had been hibernating for 30 years cycles and murdering five people?
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05Uh no, I don't think I've ever had anyone that creepy. Everyone's just everyone's just a victim.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And they're just, you know, sad.
SPEAKER_02Tombs, they don't really go into his uh his origin.
SPEAKER_05Well he's just a mutation.
SPEAKER_02He's he's just doing what he's gotta do. Yeah, he's a mutated human.
SPEAKER_05In case we didn't say that, we didn't say that. Walder was even I probably wouldn't give him any music therapy. I think I would say no thank you.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_05Sometimes you I reserve the right to say that to that man.
SPEAKER_02Uh you probably have to play a lot of real old stuff.
SPEAKER_05So they have this hearing Fats Waller.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. Scott Joplin.
SPEAKER_05So they have this hearing where you know, whatever parole board, hospital parole version of a parole board is gonna like hear all the evidence about letting him out. It's so ridiculous. So they never caught him on anything but the attempted assault on Scully.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Um however, why why Mulder so so Mulder then gets up and is like, well, he's a hundred years old, like he lays out his crazy insane case.
SPEAKER_02He kind of screwed that up like.
SPEAKER_05But I don't think he cares. That's just his MO. He just doesn't give a crap.
SPEAKER_02That's Mulder for you.
SPEAKER_05But I wanted to be like, Mulder, the trophies?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. What? Anytime I see a scene like that, I'm like, there's so much more you there's so much.
SPEAKER_05Why wouldn't you say But I know he needed to get out. I know that was the point.
SPEAKER_02You mean for the sake of the plot? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05But still.
SPEAKER_02I know, but I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_05In with these like a super dumpy old couple.
SPEAKER_02And they say as they're walking down the hall with him, oh my gosh, what are you gonna fit right in with us? Are you gonna some do you do you remember what it was?
SPEAKER_05Um he's like your room's your room's a little small, but oh, but you'll be able to squeeze it.
SPEAKER_02Well done. It's funny. Well done.
SPEAKER_01Good job, old man.
SPEAKER_05His irises turn green when he's like wanting to hunt and attack. Is that bile?
SPEAKER_01Oh. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Are his irises turning green with bile screen? I wrote.
SPEAKER_02Hmm. I'd like to think so.
SPEAKER_05And then I wrote that could have been really funny, but I don't remember what it means. Nondescript animal van van tombs. Oh. What? I remember now. It's not Van Tom's like his name. He has a nondescript animal van.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05It's not nondescript. That was the joke.
SPEAKER_01Oh. Okay. I'm always.
SPEAKER_05So he follows this chick home that he wants to get liver out of.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_05In his animal van. And it parks on her residential street. Yeah, not super conspicuous, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I can we talk about his animal van for a second?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, let's do.
SPEAKER_02I really, really enjoyed him sucking his fingers after handling the rat. I was pretty I wanted to see him do that after the game. I bet he wrote that out. He's like, can I take my pants off while I do?
SPEAKER_05Like, no, you're going to college, can't you?
SPEAKER_02Gotta wait for that one scene.
SPEAKER_05Have you ever seen an animal what's that job called? Uh sanitation? I don't know. Have you ever seen anyone in any of the cities or schools that you've lived in or gone to that's that's just out picking up random dead animals?
SPEAKER_02Um there there are people that do that. That's a thing. I mean, we're the animals on the side of the road. There's a lot of dead animals on the road.
SPEAKER_05Wow.
SPEAKER_02I would imagine. Let's just go.
SPEAKER_05I'm just sheltered and nice.
SPEAKER_02Mike Rowe never covered it in all of your dirty rooms.
SPEAKER_05I don't know. Maybe he did. I didn't watch everything.
SPEAKER_02Sure, he did. Did he ever suck on his fingers afterwards?
SPEAKER_05I bet he did not.
SPEAKER_02Gosh, that's is that a gift? That's got a few. I just really like that. It tickled me.
SPEAKER_05And then talk about Big Shoulders. Oh, it's Big Shoulders he was following home, not the wife.
SPEAKER_02Right. He was following that woman for a moment and then and then Mulder pops in, harasses him a little bit. Yeah, the guy with the shoulder pads, like bright blue raincoat soup jacket kind of deal, very extremely 93.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he had shoulder pads. Another big guy. He was a big guy, yeah. And uh you go home and his wife's basically a DIY plumber.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, she's got okay, so the kid crying kids. Yes. He's sitting there playing working. Return to Zork or something on his computer.
SPEAKER_03And Oh, he was playing.
SPEAKER_02No, he's he's he had some sort of black and white spreadsheet up or chart, uh line chart, it doesn't matter. Uh she within I mean, maybe this is maybe this is something that people do in in in in homes today, but like within seconds, she's snaking the drain, snaking the toilet.
SPEAKER_05Like no plunger, she's just right to it.
SPEAKER_02But it's just funny, like she's got screaming kids.
SPEAKER_05That's that's being a mom for you, honey.
SPEAKER_02And she's just down. I think I might be snaking the I don't know. I don't even know. In this house, you would be snaking the toilet. I don't know where it is. I think it's probably pretty gross. I've been I think Doug Hutchinson has broken our garage and sucking on it.
SPEAKER_05He like ran his hands over it and licked his fingers.
SPEAKER_02He's gonna sue us. Do you think he listens?
SPEAKER_05I hope he's 21.
SPEAKER_02Is he do you think he's Andy Baseman uh 99?
SPEAKER_05Frank? Oh, it's Frank Moon.
SPEAKER_02No, Andy. Frank Frank Moon boots. So um anywho, uh does she does he get No no noulder gets to the house, and then that's when that's when uh that's when Tomes does the whole Dirty Harry. Have you seen Dirty Harry?
SPEAKER_05No.
SPEAKER_02So in Dirty Harry, the the killer is under the car. Um no. The killer pays a dude to beat him up to frame.
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay. I was still back at the house where he gets in the trunk of Muller's car.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, that was pretty cool.
SPEAKER_05I wrote, when the trunk closed, I thought, well, at least I know that the people in the house aren't gonna get hurt.
SPEAKER_02Shoulder pads is gonna be. And then I wrote lift of work, shoulder pads and other.
SPEAKER_05And then I wrote, that's what made me think, there's no moment of reprieve in this show.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_05Like there's no like It just goes. It's just suspense after suspense, and there's not a lot of there's no downtime.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, this this was the uh first, like even like in the office scene with uh Skinner, um, you know, I'm talking about Pelig uh Peliggy, that's the actor's name. He um Smokey Man's in this one. Smoky man's in this one, yeah. Um Bare naked ladies would be very pleased.
SPEAKER_05They'll be subscribing soon.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, of course. Uh this was Skinner's first episode. I think he was supposed to just be kind of like a plain Jane bureaucrat. Then they made him Yeah, the way he the way he acted and the just his whole setup and he just really uh really hit it off and became a big part of the show. Yeah, smoking man is in this one and he has one line at the very, very end. It was the last line, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_05I didn't his voice wasn't it didn't do anything for me.
SPEAKER_02His voice?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it was very underwhelming. I wanted it to be more charactery sounding. You want to be like, oh you shouldn't have been coughing.
SPEAKER_02Well, of course I do. Of course I do. I don't like the way he smokes.
SPEAKER_05But is he not very good at it?
SPEAKER_02I just it's we it's it's like he's uh he smokes like first of all, he's like a pinch smoker. Yeah, it's uh this is fine. This is fine. I mean, I'm a little more fan of he was smoking something different, but he's but he's smoking and he goes like this.
SPEAKER_05He's just no one can see.
SPEAKER_02He has like little baby, like oh yeah. There's just little baby little baby smokes. Little baby puffs. And and like, but half the time, you know when you could tell I mean I guess this guy was a smoker. I did a little little dive on his smoking habits. Uh he he he did he used to be a smoker, but he didn't like smoking anymore. So I think he was just taking like little fakey hits. Fakey hits, and it just really bothers me.
SPEAKER_05I like to see a good if you're gonna smoke, you know, get into it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, smoke. If you if you are the smoking, do not smoke cigarettes, we don't endorse that. No, but if you're gonna do it, do it.
SPEAKER_05On a show.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I don't mind the pinched grip, but the the little baby for a guy who smokes all the time, you think you'd be taking bigger drags than that. I don't know, just uh whatever.
SPEAKER_05Anything else about that one before I ask you how if you liked how it ended?
SPEAKER_02Um I like how going by the book, they're talking about going by the book. Uh oh, I wanted to one I wanted to know what so when they when they bring Scully in and Mulder, there's two couple scenes in the office.
SPEAKER_05Two couple scenes.
SPEAKER_02Two couple scenes. Uh first of all, I like the whole going by the book will decrease our rate you know for success. Success, right? It's pretty cool. And uh telling. I wanted to know what Skinner and the smoking man do when people leave their office. Leave the office because they're just like together at the door closed.
SPEAKER_05And he's standing behind him. It's just like maybe he just like steps behind him and like rubs his shoulder. Skinner's like, I be careful you don't ash in my hair.
SPEAKER_02He's like, also the smoking man's like, um have you ever thought about shoulder pads? He's like, I know a guy.
SPEAKER_05I could find out where he got that raincoat. It was in Mulder's report.
SPEAKER_02Um, rancor shoulder pads. Um oh, I said I want to see the wheelchair guy in a Mac and Me mashup. Who's it? Aliens, I guess. Do you have any idea what I'm talking about?
SPEAKER_05Is that from Jimmy Fallon? I just sit there writing very much. Is that the thing from Jimmy Fallon where he's like shows people their Conan O'Brien though?
SPEAKER_02It's Conan. Paul Rudd, whenever he came on, Conan O'Brien would show up. This Mac and Me clip saying it was a trailer for a movie that was coming out of his. Yeah. It was the same clip every time. I think I just wanted to talk about that. Um that's why we have a podcast. Oh, I know what I wanted to know.
SPEAKER_05What?
SPEAKER_02How did they get so when they dig that dig that old woman's remains up from the concrete?
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02How the world did they get that giant concrete slab in the office? It's hanging up on chains, and what is it hanging on? How much would that concrete weigh?
SPEAKER_05I don't know. You wouldn't know. You've poured a lot more concrete than me.
SPEAKER_02I've never poured concrete in my life.
SPEAKER_05Have you ever written your initials impressions?
SPEAKER_02I picked a lot of it up. When I used to lift with like concrete blocks at my Judy's. Yeah, just a just a you know, concrete block with two holes in it. Like a three dollar concrete block is like 40 pounds.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, so it probably weighed several hundred pounds.
SPEAKER_02And they got it in an office. I was looking around in the office.
SPEAKER_05Well, it was like in a forensic.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but there's no big doors in there.
SPEAKER_05I was looking around.
SPEAKER_02I was. I was like, how'd they get that freaking? That's the first thing I noticed there's a big chain you would like chain a freaking cruise liner up with.
SPEAKER_05At least that was accurate.
SPEAKER_02What was accurate about that?
SPEAKER_05That they weren't just using little regular chains.
SPEAKER_02What were they connected to? The ceiling fan.
SPEAKER_05Uh the floor. It's probably in a basement.
SPEAKER_02What about the uh what about the handshake between the doctor and uh the stepfather?
SPEAKER_05Yeah. The caretaker. Tombs is caretaker.
SPEAKER_02Leslie, you're you're like, that's the weak. I was taking notes or doing something. And Leslie's like, that's the weakest handshake I've ever seen. And she's like, I'm like, do I need to see it? You're like, yeah, you shouldn't know why I didn't.
SPEAKER_05And it was worth weird.
SPEAKER_02It was, yeah. It was like for the YouTube.
SPEAKER_05It was like it was like two men like fish flapping. It was not good. I said they should have titled that episode The Handshake. I said that.
SPEAKER_02I like the uh I like the Oh, they got a little take a vacation. Mulder, you gotta take a vacation. It's it reminded me of the Mel Mel Brooks. We like to watch movies that that say get some rest.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Take a vacation.
SPEAKER_02That was from uh comedians and coffee and comedians and cars or whatever when they did Mel Brooks. Anyways, did we talk about the uh escalator?
SPEAKER_05No, we haven't. I was I was just saying, did you like how it ended? And so you can tell us about how it ended.
SPEAKER_02With the escalator death?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yes.
SPEAKER_02Uh I did like how it ended. First of all, cool. That's pretty cool. It's a good not quite Ricky O cool. Um meat grinder for 15 minutes. But um apparently they were I I don't remember who apparently they were really gonna kill him.
SPEAKER_05Well, yeah, they found out.
SPEAKER_02This guy's gonna marry a 16-year-old.
SPEAKER_05Let's get ahead of that.
SPEAKER_02Now he was born a night. He was he's a hundred years old. He is 200 years old. It was cool then. I wonder if that's what inspired him.
SPEAKER_05Oh, probably so yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's in his defense. Sorry. He did play a hundred-year-old man, that was cool to do such things. Um, no, but uh they they were looking at one of the writers, I guess, was looking at a uh somebody fixing an escalator in a mall, and they were under it, and they're like, Oh, that's how we're gonna kill it. That's how we're gonna do it. Yeah. So I like that. I'm a big fan of fancy gory featuring um giant bladed stairs. And as far as how it ended in terms of you know, you didn't get the satisfaction of that the guy from Blade um getting his, getting his, but yeah. But you got uh you got to see that annoying doctor die. I was I'm glad he got it. I hated that guy. Yeah, he was so he sucked. Um the psychologist. Like he almost like hit it. I thought he was almost gonna come on to him.
SPEAKER_05The psychologist? Yeah. But he was very like pandering and uh uh patronizing, sort of. Yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's uh anyways. But I do like I like I I like the way the smoking man finished ends up with of course, like do I say you believe there?
SPEAKER_05He's like, Is that the first smoking man episode? Oh no, because that was like 20 something.
SPEAKER_02It was yeah, it wasn't the first smoking man episode, but it was it was one of them. I mean he's first season. Yeah. He turns out to be uh well, I don't know if I want to spoil the whole series. Okay.
SPEAKER_05Because I A don't remember, and B, the X-Files is just too good.
SPEAKER_02It is quite good. We gotta watch some more.
SPEAKER_05We should watch some more.
SPEAKER_02Um anything else you want to talk about with the X-Files.
SPEAKER_05No, I like that. I like that uh endeavor we went on trying to be pursued.
Alanis Morissette & Jagged Little Pill Discussion
SPEAKER_02Yeah, okay, yeah, I know you don't I I'm not gonna go through my notes, but I I'm sure we talked about uh most things that are that we wanted to. Do we want to move on to our little uh our little Alanis?
SPEAKER_05Let's do it. Jagged Little Pill.
SPEAKER_02Jagged Little Pill's album. Lannis More set.
SPEAKER_05All I really want.
SPEAKER_02All I really want is Dave Coulier. Is Dave this actually this song um Dave Coulier song, that was uh uh what's the name of that? It wasn't about all uh all I really want wasn't Dave Cooler.
SPEAKER_05I was just making a Dave Coulier reference. I don't know. I don't know which song actually.
SPEAKER_02No, this song was about an affair she had with Gilbert Gottfried.
SPEAKER_05The theater one I can't think of that one.
SPEAKER_02The theater. Oh. Is that the Dave Coulier song? Yeah.
SPEAKER_05What's that called?
SPEAKER_02It's you're the huge Zelantis fan.
SPEAKER_05I Well, you know, I don't remember stuff. It's called uh The Names of Things.
SPEAKER_02Um I'll find it, I'll tell you. Yeah, look it up. Um you don't remember the names of things. You're like all I did, I used to listen to this album quite a bit.
SPEAKER_05I do, I did.
SPEAKER_02But not the biggest song. You ought to know, not the greatest song.
SPEAKER_05Is it you ought to know?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you ought to know. Yeah, that was and I apparently it hasn't truly been confirmed that it was about Dave Coulier, but it was uh hasn't been confirmed.
SPEAKER_05Speculation.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, speculation. Uh yeah, you ought to know. And what what do you want to say? Would you you why'd you pick this song?
SPEAKER_05Oh well, okay, so yes, I did listen to that album. It was uh I think my eighth, eighth grade year was when I was purchased it.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_05Just take you back a little bit.
SPEAKER_02It came out in ninety-six.
SPEAKER_05Okay, so my ninth grade year, I guess. Right?
SPEAKER_02No. Eighth grade. Well, ninety-six, yeah, yeah. No, I was I was in ninth grade in ninety six.
SPEAKER_05Okay, so eighth grade, I thought it was eighth grade.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there you go.
SPEAKER_05So I had a CD player in the bathroom and I would play it while I was in the shower and while I was getting ready in the morning and everything. At 6 30 in the morning, no one ever told me not to. My parents were nice.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna say, you know, I had my parents had no problem with me watching X-Files.
SPEAKER_05Uh-huh. They wouldn't love to let you listen to the code.
SPEAKER_02I would have never been able to listen to Jaggy Little Pill. There's just no way.
SPEAKER_03We were all just getting ready to uh really want.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, you um ripping people's livers off. That's because I I mean honestly, I I I've watched this episode.
SPEAKER_05As a child.
SPEAKER_02As a child, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Um But I liked to, in my like literally picture perfect childhood, I like to imagine that I could relate to all of these like tortured souls.
SPEAKER_02As far as all the songs or the lyrics in this song. In this song or the whole album.
SPEAKER_05The whole entire album. It was one of those other albums like we were talking about with the Tom Petty, where I had every key change I could sing the next note of the next song because I just listened to it, you know. Just from start to finish over and over and over again.
SPEAKER_02I mean, she like definitely came swinging with this album. Like I and I haven't I'm not gonna talk about Les as a as a fan necessarily. I really respect the heck out of it.
SPEAKER_05One of my least favorite songs on there.
SPEAKER_02Just because of the the uh misunderstanding of what irony is?
SPEAKER_05Well, sure. I didn't know that really until I think Uncle Dan pointed it out.
SPEAKER_02She got a lot of heat for that, actually.
SPEAKER_05But um As she should. Yeah, I hope she's not listening to this. She's I hope she's not a subscriber. No, I thought it was the most boring of all of the songs. I love like like all I really want is great because it's just all over the place.
SPEAKER_02I actually I I did I do I do kind of like that. So I've listened, I've listened to the song about I I took your advice, and you know, when you gotta when you gotta learn a song to play it, listen to it until you can't stand anymore. I listened to it until I liked it. Kind of liked it. I actually do like um I just honestly what it is for me is I just don't like her voice. It's just especially after hearing the way she sang. So I like this song better, but her old like dance music that she did like the video I sent you with uh Matt LeBlanc was in it.
SPEAKER_05I was like, who is that?
SPEAKER_02Joey.
SPEAKER_05Joey, so skinny. It was so skinny I couldn't hardly tell what it was him.
SPEAKER_02So, but she I mean, she was like what uh I think she was like 19 in that video. So, um, but anyways, she sings totally differently in that.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like she sings like a more she's got a nice voice. She's got a strong voice.
SPEAKER_05She's a really strong voice, she has a lot of control over her voice, too.
SPEAKER_02I just don't, you know.
SPEAKER_05It's just not for you.
SPEAKER_02It's like um kind of a yodeling sort of uh uh I wrote down some comparison.
SPEAKER_05I think I liked it so much, not just because I thought I like to imagine that I had a horrible life at at 13 years old living in my wonderful home.
SPEAKER_02Your dad sleeping in bed. Can't even sleep in my own bed. People breaking in. Doug screeping to my window. Might be Alex Honnold, I don't know. Poor dog. We've really dragged him through the mud on this one.
All I Really Want: Song Craft & Glenn Ballard
SPEAKER_05Um I don't feel bad about it. We've dragged him through the pile.
SPEAKER_02Feels so bad. Uh she wrote this uh whole album with uh uh Glenn Ballard. Do you know the name about Glenn Ballard?
SPEAKER_05Does he have that? Did he write that big song?
SPEAKER_02Among that song and uh All I Really Want. He also wrote Among He wrote a lot for Wilson Phillips. He wrote Main in the Mirror. Dude. Yeah, he wrote uh some of Gimme the Night with Quincy Jones, George Benson.
SPEAKER_05This man is all over the place.
SPEAKER_02He wrote he had uh writing credits with Alan Silvestri on the Back to the Future score.
SPEAKER_05What?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Is this man still alive?
SPEAKER_02I think he is. I think he is.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he can have a big section at our concert.
SPEAKER_02He played the guitar on it. He was the one doing the is a nice, it's a fan, it's a it's a very uh earworm riff. It's a it's a nice riff. It's I I like I like the way the song opens up. It almost has like a sweet emotion.
SPEAKER_05Too bad we didn't have a harmonica player.
SPEAKER_02She played the harmonica on it, did you know that?
SPEAKER_05Yes. I I sorry, I know we talk about Uncle Dan all the time, but I remember him being like, all she's doing is breathing in and out of that thing.
SPEAKER_07Because he actually plays the harmonica.
SPEAKER_05No, and he actually has he's allowed to say it because he's a harmonic man. He's a harmonic. He's a harmonica man.
SPEAKER_02He's a harmonicist.
unknownHarmonica.
SPEAKER_02But they got together and wrote, they just banged this freaking. I've always heard stories about how they how she wrote this album very quickly. Apparently they they were just like to borrow lyrics from the song, just kindred spirits. And he said he was like basically acting as a as a channel for her to just black like they they wrote and recorded a song a day at his at his like home studio.
SPEAKER_05Dang.
SPEAKER_02And just rip through it.
SPEAKER_05And do you think you remember your own songs, or do you think you have to like relearn them? Like if you're doing stuff that fast, I'd be like, I need to listen to that again before I perform it.
SPEAKER_02So I and I'm I'm I'm just I know what happens. A lot of people, this isn't of course not the case across the board, especially even with her, really. But this was like one of the first albums were that well, the first album that she came out and just really did her own thing. So probably she probably just had this bloated I gotta say all this stuff, and I want it to come out like this, so she was ready to go, and Glenn was ready to channel that into what he does. What a team. Honestly, though, what a team. Like they sold like 50 million albums.
SPEAKER_05Were they like a married news team?
SPEAKER_02They were very similar, a lot very similar to us.
SPEAKER_05How old is she? She's about ten years older than us, isn't she? She was born in the 70s, so it's ish.
SPEAKER_02She was uh old enough to be on uh you can't do that on television.
SPEAKER_05That was great.
SPEAKER_02Had you you hadn't seen that show?
SPEAKER_05I've heard of it, but I've never seen it.
SPEAKER_02We didn't really watch uh some good clips. That show was that was a show I was not allowed to watch.
SPEAKER_05I bet.
SPEAKER_02Um great show though, I think. Probably holds up. Um what uh now this song is in this song is mixolydian, right?
SPEAKER_05It has a flat seven, yes it does.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Okay. I really there's a lot I wanted to uh when playing this song. So uh first of all, I was really glad that you just sang it like you.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah, I wasn't gonna try to sing it like her.
SPEAKER_02I didn't figure you would.
SPEAKER_05But I did do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you sing you you brought that You can't not sing it Yeah.
SPEAKER_05The way because she puts all of it But you weren't going like that? Oh, I wouldn't do that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I can't I don't I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that. She puts all the emphasis on the wrong syllables.
SPEAKER_02Right, right, right. No, but uh was this song hard to sing?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's not an easy song.
SPEAKER_02You gotta get really high up.
SPEAKER_05Like there's a it's not super high because it's only in B flat, but yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay. Well this is why I'm asking you. Yes.
SPEAKER_05It is much higher than a lot of the stuff we've done. I'd have to figure it is a full it's uh it's probably a t I would say it's a ten or eleven note octave or ten or eleven note range, I mean.
SPEAKER_02So you oughta know.
SPEAKER_05Mm-hmm. And I do.
SPEAKER_02Hmm. I like playing it on the guitar. I thought once I got it once I got the feel of the song down, uh I like that riff. It's it's fun. I kind of slid into it, played it that way. There's several ways to do it.
SPEAKER_05Um It's kind of grungy, kind of dirty.
SPEAKER_02I decided to play more because he's doing I don't have my guitar with me. I take it upstairs. Oh well. It's probably better. Um It is. But he's doing a lot of like single note stuff up on the kind of higher up on the fretboard uh during parts of it. I decided to kind of keep like a keep it moving. Keep it moving and keep a rhythm going. Right.
SPEAKER_05So to sacrifice my nail pops.
SPEAKER_02That's one thing I do really uh love about what we what we're doing, doing all these covers, is figuring out how to try to fill the space of like three instruments with each other. With one, you know, with with our uh serviceable skill set, but um still, you know, we're not professional musicians. Well I'm not.
SPEAKER_05Um I'm not really either.
SPEAKER_02But uh no, it's uh I like the I like playing in Mixolydian. I like the like the way it started. I mean, it's got a lot of uh it's got a lot of grit to it. It's like pretty grungy, it's kinda I like the words. The words are great. It she's all she like attacks this song. Like she's just all over the freaking place. Yeah. I mean, there's a whole album pretty much like that.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And all of the songs, while they have a lot in common, they all have a lot of a lot going on that stands alone. I don't know. It's a great album.
All I Really Want: Covers Rundown
SPEAKER_02Did you watch any covers of it?
SPEAKER_05No. Oh, well, the one you sent me?
SPEAKER_02By uh Nick Ryan.
SPEAKER_05Is that the one you sent me?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Nick Ryan uh said is a guy who looks like six dudes that I've worked retail with. And fixed computers with a fine job. He did a fine job.
SPEAKER_05I would have liked to have not seen him or his music video.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_05Not because there was anything wrong with the way he looked, but that it was just gonna be like you're just walking around smiling at like a playground.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, it was kind of awkward. Yeah, crazy. Little Doug Hutchinson.
SPEAKER_05What do you like? This song is like angsty, and you're like, ooh, smiling with your hat on.
SPEAKER_02Totally. Totally. Uh Valentina Sounds was another one I listened to.
SPEAKER_05Was that right?
SPEAKER_02Uh it was like a live recording. Uh she talked about pretty much what you said, like there were she listened to this.
SPEAKER_05It's a formative album.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was pretty good. They're they're a band. It was the recording wasn't great just because it was like a live recording. But uh I listened to a guy named Gary B. Lucas, uh, decent acoustic player, decent voice. His timing dragged a little bit, but it sounded nice. It's fine. It's fine. Um, The Singing Angels was pretty good. It was mainly instrumental. But it was like it was basically like, do you want to hear what this song sounds like without Alanis Morissette? Well, or Alanis. But but like the the singing they did have, they just had the chorus, and it was like uh like a I don't know, choral arrangement. Is that what am I saying that right?
SPEAKER_05Well, there's like like a choir singing a harmony. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02It's like probably like four women singing together.
SPEAKER_05Were they in harmonies?
unknownI don't know.
SPEAKER_02They weren't singing much, it was mainly instrumental. Okay. Um Darren Costello featuring Lena Love. Sounds like she might have done a little work with uh Dirty Harry or Debbie Harry in the maybe back in the Playboy Bunny days. But um I said You're just saying that because of her name.
SPEAKER_05You don't know that.
SPEAKER_02I mean, no, she's got a she's got she's got a name. Uh she's not a bad singer. Uh and this band wasn't bad either. They uh they're gonna probably get my nobody award. Nobody award is for the uh actually Aldi's were nobodies.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I couldn't find like a established mainstream person doing this. Nobody award, uh, please don't take offense, Nick Ryan or Darren Costello or Elena Love. Um this is for people under 50,000 subscribers.
SPEAKER_05Or so we're just constantly winning nobody awards every week.
SPEAKER_02We used yeah, we can we give it to ourselves?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we have 27 subscribers, we fit the bill.
SPEAKER_02But do we are we can we can we beat Elena Love?
SPEAKER_05I can.
SPEAKER_02You you can. Their guitar player beat me. His name is Matt Hornbeck, and he was doing some cool stuff. He was playing a slide on this, it was pretty neat. Um, you don't you're looking at the time?
SPEAKER_05I am okay. That's what I do. I that's what I do. That's what I'm here for.
SPEAKER_02Do you want to move on to our categories?
SPEAKER_07I do.
SPEAKER_02Do you know that she uh let me just say this she apparently came in to to the studio when she was meeting with with with um Glenn Ballard with her sweater on backwards inside out. So we decided to put that in there. Yeah, that's what I mean, that's what Wikipedia said. Um And do you know what the Estella lyric was about?
SPEAKER_05No, I I went to look that up and I did not.
SPEAKER_02From Great Expectations. You ever read that?
SPEAKER_05I have not. Wait, yes, I have.
SPEAKER_02Estella Havisham? You probably would have read it in high school or something. I think I read it.
SPEAKER_05Yes, I think I've read that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, she was uh like raised not to give men anything. But they've like fall all over because she's beautiful and that whole thing. Um oh, yeah. Voice compared her voice is often compared to Dolores O'Rordan from the cranberries. I don't know if I'm saying her name right. Who I also think. But again, I respect them. I just don't I can't.
SPEAKER_05Alright.
SPEAKER_02I like Lanus Morriset more than I ever have. How's that sound?
Liner Notes: B-Sides, Dream Covers & Soundtrack Picks
SPEAKER_05I take I'll take it.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Um so what B-side first? B side, yeah.
SPEAKER_05I really struggled with this.
SPEAKER_02Did you?
SPEAKER_05I don't really like my answer. You say yours first.
SPEAKER_02I'll take it on a little journey. First, you want to talk about the actual B-sides?
SPEAKER_05Sure.
SPEAKER_02Um, hand in my pocket and ironic live versions. Um So there's for some reason I had good Led Zeppelin's good times, bad times in my head. Um I had Take the Power Back uh from Rage Against the Machine. That's sweet emotion, Meryl Smith, because kind of opens like that. I decided to go with another legend.
SPEAKER_05Who?
SPEAKER_02Chicago native. Not Curtis Mayfield. Guy goes by the name of Wesley Willis.
SPEAKER_05Because he had his own song about her. That's the song you're using.
SPEAKER_02What's it called? Alanis Morrison. Ah. Um He said, You are my sweet woman to the end. You are my honey lover to the max.
SPEAKER_05Something for years to come.
SPEAKER_02You're my sweet. You are my sweetheart for years to come. You are so lovable to me in the long run.
SPEAKER_05I know you guys can't see it close up of Rob's face, but his eyes have disappeared.
SPEAKER_02She could really she could really whoop she could really whoop Saddam Hussein's ass. Do you think she was instrumental in helping him write those lyrics? 2003 capture of uh Saddam.
SPEAKER_05Oh, probably.
SPEAKER_02Like we need Alanis Morris that Wesley Willis said that she could do it.
SPEAKER_05The United States said, what Canadian can we get on the case of Saddam Hussein?
SPEAKER_02I love, I love, you know I love Wesley Willis.
SPEAKER_05You know I love Wesley Will.
SPEAKER_02I Wesley Willis has got more of my money than most of the music I listen to. I used to have several albums. I I'm not just exploiting a sick man. I genuinely love Wesley Willis. Yeah. He's definitely coming to our concert.
SPEAKER_05Oh. Sure thing.
SPEAKER_02He the the girl looked a little bit like Alanis Morrison in the video.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Do you remember watching the video?
SPEAKER_05I do remember watching the video. I remember.
SPEAKER_02You didn't like it. You don't like it nearly as much as I do. I don't think.
SPEAKER_05That's weird. Did you think that I would like it more than you? I bet you did. Uh well, I just I just I don't even like mine at all. I don't even want to say it. I'm embarrassed.
SPEAKER_00What the heck is it?
SPEAKER_02I've just said it's Wesley World.
SPEAKER_05Be My Girl by Jet.
SPEAKER_02Um The Guitar.
SPEAKER_05I was going for the some guitar.
SPEAKER_02What's wrong with that?
SPEAKER_05I don't know. I feel like I've done way better on other ones.
SPEAKER_02It's fine. Everybody has a I mean it's a good song.
SPEAKER_05But I like my cover.
SPEAKER_02Right?
SPEAKER_05Well, that's a little bit of a like we drifted into some doors territory.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it sounded like that. But but uh it sounded like break on through. But no, it's uh eh, whatever.
SPEAKER_05Um Are you gonna be my girl? Yeah, isn't it my girl? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay, that's fine. Yeah. Honey, you're it's okay.
SPEAKER_05Thank you.
SPEAKER_02You can have a couple of mine if you want.
SPEAKER_05Okay, great. I'll take uh I don't want any of yours. Oh Wesley Willis.
SPEAKER_02No, absolutely not. You can take Sucker Chicheta's um Who's your cover?
SPEAKER_05Hurry up, it's 930.
SPEAKER_02Okay, okay, okay, you're right. You're right. Is it really 9 30? Yes, I cover is uh Frank and Moon Zappa. You know the Valley Girl song? Do you know that? No. Well, first of all, I'd just like to hear Frank Zappa cover the song.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02And Moon Zappa. It's something about the way she is talking sometimes. I uh like Frank the Valley Girl is is like Moon Zappa talking about Valley Girls like gag me with a spoon kind of stuff. But Frank Zappa plays the music and it's well he sings a lot.
SPEAKER_05He plays them.
SPEAKER_02He plays them. It'd be a lot cooler if you'd heard the song, but it's okay.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02Well, I should I send you my covers ahead of time so you know the reference and vice versa.
SPEAKER_05I don't care. I don't have to I literally don't think I have time in my life to add any more assignments. You could send them to me. I make zero promises about listening to them. Uh I want to hear Paramore do it.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I think that would be good.
SPEAKER_02That'd be cool.
SPEAKER_05Uh soundtrack.
SPEAKER_02Um what's yours?
SPEAKER_05Legally blonde.
SPEAKER_02Huh. I'd be almost surprised if this wasn't in legally blonde.
SPEAKER_05Oh, maybe it is.
SPEAKER_02No, it wasn't. I checked.
SPEAKER_05I there's no You checked Legally Blonde?
SPEAKER_02I checked to see what what this has been featured in.
SPEAKER_05Nothing.
SPEAKER_02No. No, it's it's on a couple of like it was like an episode of something. I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_05I think it would be super hilarious juxtaposition to the legally blonde pink. You know. Then she says, all I really want is some justice.
SPEAKER_02Oh, oh. See? That's that's good. Thank you. I thought this would be great for uh Elaine from Seinfeld. I feel like she's like all over the place with like boyfriends and she's totally follows follows somebody and then hates them and drops. Yeah. So yeah, I'm going with Elaine.
SPEAKER_05Alright.
SPEAKER_02Huh. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER_05I like it. I like it. It's been real.
SPEAKER_02Guys, yeah, this is uh is this the first episode we've had to split in two on purpose?
SPEAKER_05It's the first one that we didn't on that we yes.
SPEAKER_02Hmm. It's a big big one.
SPEAKER_05Two episodes ago was the one where we f we filmed it in slow motion. That was the first one we did in slow motion.
SPEAKER_03No one's ever gonna listen to that one on YouTube. So this is like the thumbnail is camera died.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Sorry.
SPEAKER_03Camera didn't actually die.
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