The Audience Won't Like It

X-Files Tooms, All Alanis Really Wants & Blondie | Ep 24

Rob and Leslie Shoecraft

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We dive from Blondie’s Parallel Lines to Alanis’s All I Really Want, then into the X-Files’ creepiest early villain, with a pit stop at a Nine Inch Nails arena show and a Bruno Mars performance masterclass. We argue what makes pop endure, why smart horror still works, and how live shows can feel like machines that breathe.

• show format as a “waiting in line” hangout
• listener comments and a skunky dog cameo
• corrections on songs, film trivia, and instruments
• Blondie’s Parallel Lines as pop built from punk roots
• Debbie Harry’s vocal range and band chemistry
• track highlights including Fade Away And Radiate
• Buddy Holly cover debate and what covers miss
• Nine Inch Nails live breakdown and setlist feel
• Bruno Mars’ precision and band choreography
• X-Files Squeeze and Tombs plot beats and fear
• cinematography, vents, screws, and green eyes
• parole board absurdity and escalator payoff
• Alanis songwriting with Glenn Ballard and mixolydian bite
• covers, B-sides, and who should cover it next
• wrap with links, platforms, and where to find us

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Cold Open Banter

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Can we talk about his animal van for a second?

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Yeah, let's do.

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I really, really enjoyed him sucking his fingers after handling the rat.

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That was pretty.

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I wanted to see him do that after the room.

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I bet he wrote that out.

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He's like, can I take my pants off Lindel? Didn't tune my guitar.

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Well, let's see how it goes. I'm ready.

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Not bad.

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No, two tarubs. Sing me a song.

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Two married friends. In a base corner of the basement of the roof house. Surrounded by blankies. And two microphones. They got in a car crash. She died in his arms. He kissed her lips. No, no, they won't.

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You know what? I think it must have been summer. It must have been down in Florida.

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Because her lips are still warm?

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Because she was so warm. Yeah. Because I'm typically freezing.

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You're like, all right, we this connection here.

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Tell me about your outfit today. Well, it's like a little business on top, little gym shorts on the bottom.

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Yeah, this is the this is the mullet version of clothes.

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This is the Zoom taking a meeting on Zoom era.

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This is the part where we adjust our microphone. No, I adjust my I like to adjust my microphone once in the beginning. Leslie likes to adjust herself Constantly throughout the entire time.

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Constantly throughout.

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Just listen. Just listen for the submarine sounds.

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No, no, this is an homage to the the ride they used to have at Disney World.

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Which is now Oh, the submarine ride?

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Yeah. This is now that's where they have the little merms uh merms made. Sorry, guys, I'm sorry.

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The audience. They're not gonna like it.

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Welcome to episode 20. Four.

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Huh.

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That's it, guys. Thanks for coming.

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Actually, we gotta we gotta be kind of peppy today.

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It doesn't matter how peppy we are. We'll just we may be taking a child picking up break.

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We definitely will be, I would say. Unless another child will be. Okay. Hey, should we just get right into corrections corner?

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We should, but we should just briefly describe what the show is.

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Yeah, go put it. It's a good idea.

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I like it when you do it.

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Hey guys, welcome to the audience won't like it. My name is Rob Shoecraft. And uh this is my wife, Leslie Shoecraft. We're married, and uh what we try to do here is simulate the waiting in line concert experience. We do um try to simulate sit next to somebody and you just kind of talk to them waiting for the doors to open. Um was the last concert you went to where that was a thing that you had to do?

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No, no concert.

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I don't think I've ever actually had to do that.

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I think we just uh no when we went to uh I'm pretty sure we had to wait when we went to see the jukebox. We had to line up around the corner.

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We did. Yeah. Yes, we did because I was uh I I I didn't give that gentleman uh uh money, and I was accused of being racist. Don't just keep going.

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Just keep going, buddy.

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That was a good call. I don't I don't think he was in the right headspace. No, and I think I'm too immature to engage in a conversation like that.

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Uh I think you think you can do more than you can.

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That's what it is. That's maturity on some level.

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Did you order me that super comfy couch to sit on during the show?

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No, that's that's when we hit 50 subscribers. We're at 27 right now. Are you serious?

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I get some that 50? We have 27?

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Yeah.

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We picked up two.

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Thank you, everyone.

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We picked up two super comes.

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We picked up two more.

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Any comments to share?

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Uh oh, we're starting with comments? Comments corner?

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Yeah, well, you were gonna surprise me with the curated comments corner.

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Oh, yeah, this is um yeah, we have we have one new one. It's from uh Andy Bassman or bass man. Bass man could be.

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Is he a fish?

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Uh he could be a fisherman?

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Huh.

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I didn't ask him.

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Or does he play a bass?

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I should have asked.

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Is he like, please stop playing the keyboard like it's a bass guitar?

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Remind me to reply to him. Um I'll do my best. Are you is this like bass man like a bass or like a fish? Are you a fish? Uh-huh. A fish named Andy.

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What is this comment?

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Yeah, uh 99, I should say. Is his full is his full commenting uh handle. Uh we got our dog here. He said, uh, well, this is a family show, but I'm gonna I'm gonna get get kind of nasty here.

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What video is it on?

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He he said, uh, well, this is episode 20. This was time loops and little talks.

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Okay.

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We did a cover of little talks. By the way, we do a cover of a song.

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Oh, yeah, by the way, that's what you're waiting in line for.

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That's the concert. Yeah. Like today.

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We never got past simulating waiting in line for a concert. We talk about stuff.

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This is a line simulation show. That's what it was. That's this.

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It's this. You could listen to this while waiting in line.

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You could.

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I think you would like that.

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Yeah, tell your friends. Tell tell or tell your student to be for a few.

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Everyone tells one friend 27 times two is fifty-four.

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Tell you next week in Croatia's corner. Yeah. It's pretty good.

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Matzman. Anyway, what did what did David Baseman say?

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You know what he said? What? Hell yeah.

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All right. On Little Talks.

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On uh on the on the podcast. I don't know what he was um what he was praising. He's really leaning into me here.

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He's really getting he needs his pet.

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Gruber, if you are if you're not watching us on YouTube right now, I'm like We're petting our dog. My dog who smells suspiciously like a skunk.

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Hmm.

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It's February. Despite baking soda and vinegar. Vinegar and palm. Hydrogen peroxide.

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Oh no v no vinegar.

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No.

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It's Dawn baking soda and hydrogen peroxide. And it does work.

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I mean we gotta put it on him, what, quarterly?

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Yeah, unfortunately.

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Yeah. We live on the sticks. So anyway. Anyways, thanks Andy.

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So thanks for tuning in. Oh, I called him David Baseman. Is it Andy Baseman?

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David, he goes by David. I got a feeling. Baby David?

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Most baby David Andy Baseman.

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We should give people nicknames, but uh we'll work on that. Um yeah. Look at you. A little Charles Mingus reference there.

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That's right.

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Wow. Or just drench.

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Aww.

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We're pulling out all the Gruber.

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Have you been wearing your pork pie hat that we got you?

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He's about to knock me over. Oh, look at your pants.

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Look at your pants, how much fur. Oh my god. He's a half German shepherd, and he's like blowing out that coat right now.

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He's about 90 pounds of He's not 90 pounds.

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You think?

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Like, yeah, I do think he's 90 pounds.

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All right.

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He was 86 pounds last time I took him.

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Okay.

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And he's nothing but thick. Thicker.

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He's a thick boy.

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So sweet boy. Feel free to uh comment on YouTube, comment on I think you could comment on Spotify, com write us. Yeah. Audience won't like it.

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Subscribe to us.

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Do all those things.

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Audience won't like it.

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I've given you so many reasons so far.

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We're on Instagram now where you can see some some slides that you know are cherry-picked from some of the random stuff we say and talk about. Uh so actually this week does fit feature a picture of uh Gruber and Uncle Dan's Pipes.

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Oh yeah, it's a really nice picture, Gruber. It's a little uh a little unsettling, a little obscene.

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That's how he looks all the time.

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Yeah, it does.

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Okay, enough about Corrections, correct me.

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Enough about Mr. Bassman. Oh, won't you play that bass man too? You know that song?

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I don't, but is it from uh uh uh what's the name of the ride? Splash Mountain.

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Uh no, it's not, but it does kind of have that sort of flavor.

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It's gone now. Rest in peace.

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It's um uh I can't think of the name of the guy. Johnny Cymbal. I think his name is Johnny Cymbal.

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Like he plays a cymbal?

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It's uh he's kind of got uh like a high tenor part, but he's singing like a duet with a bass, like a really deep What's the guy's name who sings uh You're a mean one?

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Uh Earl Thurgood? Something like that?

Corrections Corner

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It's not him, but he probably do it pretty well. Okay, maybe we'll do that song sometime. Let's start in Corrections Corner. This is the the this is the part of the show where we uh we answer unanswered questions of the free previous podcast.

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Unasked questions mostly.

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Well, if i I wanted to know the answers normally, you either forgot that you asked them or never cared to ask in the first place.

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That's right. Unasked questions.

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But it's always something that came up. That's true.

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It's always ri vaguely relevant.

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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's always relevant to me.

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Uh-huh.

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Special. This is a special section for me. It's also a place where we correct things that we where we misspoke. I got a couple of those. It's also a place where I acknowledge things that I might have missed that you said.

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Any this week? I feel like I'm not hitting off my game.

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A little bit, but I I don't remember what. We'll get there. Okay. Ready?

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Gotcha. Let's do it.

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The other guy's name that wasn't Balkie from Perfect Strangers in the sitcom.

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Oh, that's hitting the instrument.

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That was that's Larry Appleton, played by Mark Lynn Baker. Next.

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Larry Appleton was the character's name?

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No, no. Uh yes, yes, sorry, yes. Mark Lynn Baker is the actor.

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Okay.

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Okay. Any questions about that? None. No, no follow-ups? Okay. Um I I think Perfect Strangers is my biggest theme song to do, or as a cover. I think we may do different strokes next. Okay. Next time.

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How did that go? Perfect Strangers?

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Oh, it starts with like bow wow, bow wow. It's that's all I got.

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No, that sounds like the fight song for our kids home too.

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I gotta keep the show going. If I sit here long enough, I'll think of it.

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That's okay.

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You do have to keep it going. Next time, corrections core, I'll sing the whole thing. The whole set. I'll do the full intro, the bow wow, and I'll tell you what instrument it is. Alright, ready? Shine on you crazy diamond, the length on the album.

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Uh-huh.

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Wish You Were Here. I think it was on Wish You Were Here. I probably should have looked that up. Uh it's actually, it's in two parts if you include both parts. It's 25 minutes and 57 seconds. How many? 25 minutes and 57 seconds.

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Oh, wow.

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It's a pretty long song.

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It's a pretty long song. That's a sitcom episode.

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I'm thinking like other songs that might contend with that in length would be like tubular bells.

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I don't even know how long that is.

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I just have we've listened to it.

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Um I know, but that's you mean tubular bells?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like we remember we had a uh road trip one time with the with the kids and we just played the longest songs. I think I probably just played the longest songs I can think of. Yeah. Thick as a Brick. It's like 45 minutes in one version of it I had. It's a Jethro Toll tune. Um I think we played like Reba, maybe, from uh Fish. It's a pretty long one. It's like 15 minutes. Anyways.

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Was that was that like a trip to hell for me?

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I don't think you were having a bad time.

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Okay. I don't I think it doesn't stand out in my memory, so usually bad and good things are only things that I remember.

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Tubular Bells has like there there's a there's a part of it where they they they say the name of the instrument. It kind of breaks the vibe a little bit, but it's kind of cool.

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You're talking about the m the horror movie song. Yeah. Okay. Is it from Halloween?

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No. No Friday the 13th.

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Oh Psycho? No. Oh. I don't know. Is it Exorcist? I I thought it was one of those campaigns. What's the camp movie with Jason?

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Michael? No. It's not Friday the 13th.

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Michael Myers?

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Well, maybe it is. It might be hella. But I thought John Carpenter did it. This is Mike.

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We'll find out next week.

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We'll follow up on Tubba bills.

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If we ever do get around to filming another podcast.

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Alright, I said Manny's sister from Scarface. I said I was going to find out her name. It's not Manny's sister, it's Tony's sister.

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Tony.

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Yeah, Tony's sister. Did you ever see Scarface? No. No. Gina Montana.

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Gotcha.

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Was the character's name. Played by. Any guesses? Elaine from Seinfeld? Nope. She might come up with.

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Julie Halloween Drive.

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Played by Mary Elizabeth Mascratonio.

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Oh, I didn't. I was very close when I said Elaine.

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Uh the lead guy on Firefly, Nathan Fillion.

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Not Alan Tudick.

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Not Al well, in our hearts.

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In our hearts.

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We started watching Resident Alien.

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I feel like he needs to know that we have a podcast where he's been featured.

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Are you I bet he does know. He's one probably one of those 27. Nathan, if you're out there, Bonnie.

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He was 26 or 27. He might have been 26.

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What if he's Andy Basin? Nathan. Oh, yeah. No, Nate na no. Did I say Nathan?

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I thought you did. Oh, sorry. I want I want Alan to be number 26 or 27 in our hearts.

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Yeah. Nathan, I honestly I could care less whether or not he No, he's he's he's good. I actually like him. He's he's he's a good time.

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He was a great community, right? He's the janitor. He's like a head janitor in community.

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Yeah, he was in community.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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He still is.

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He was in it the other night.

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That's right.

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I know thanks.

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Good for you. Thank you. Alright. Jazz harp versus like a folk harp. Uh what is it? Let's see. How's it different from a folk harp? Jazz harp and folk harp differ primarily in instrumentation and technique.

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What? What? Differ? You said differ. And I think you said jazz heart.

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Well, we don't did I?

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I think so. We'll find out.

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Uh it jazz usually uses a large 47-string pedal harp. So it's a it's got a pedal on it.

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Like an orchestra like one that you'd see in an orchestra. Sorry, I should I know I shouldn't ask questions because then we just have to keep talking about it.

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Hey, let's bring in Viv back.

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Let's learn things 30 seconds at a time over the course of six months. That's fun.

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Honestly, this is my favorite part of the show. Alright, so look at the dog. It allows for like uh chromatic changes uh on the fly. That's I bet I've seen him do it before. Uh complex harmonies where folk harps are usually smaller lever harps.

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That's what I have.

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26 to 38 strings, suited for diatonic, Celtic or traditional music, jazz emphasizes swing and blah blah blah blah blah. Okay. Any questions about that that I can't answer? Cool. Maybe next time we'll talk more. Earth, One, and Fire, you asked what's their primary genre? And I said, I think it's a lot of them. It's a lot of them, but it can't be nailed down. RB, funk, soul, disco, all of those things. Some albums might be a little more geared. Groober?

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Yeah, he keeps making noise.

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Cooper, you got anything you want to say?

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Gruber, do you want a microphone, buddy?

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Groover's Teddy. Groover's mini.

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Who's Teddy?

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We like to just say uh oh Wesley's dog.

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He doesn't know Teddy.

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He smells it, he knows what he smells like. Okay, uh I said Discovery. We did uh we talked about Earth Wind and Fire's Spirit album last week. And I said that uh that Discovery was the name or sorry, was uh Discovery was the name of the song that's like the really short one that kind of breaks up where the album gets a little different. And it was actually uh Departure. Ah sorry about that, guys.

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Actually, that's a great name for the It is the surf what the purpose it was serving.

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I think they knew what they were doing.

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You think so?

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Yeah, yeah, it's it they know what they're doing.

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They weren't just a bunch of people who fell into one studio at a at one time, coincidentally, and made a bunch of cool songs.

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I don't believe they were. I bet I bet there's some bands that have done that though. Shall we uh maybe talk about that in Correction Square next week?

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Sure. I don't care though.

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I know you don't if you don't feel like it. You know I do.

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Okay.

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Okay, so um I bet they uh never mind. Uh big, you asked about big orchestral. Big orchestral contemporary bands like Earth, Wind and Fire.

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Yeah.

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Um I didn't really hunt too far on this, but I did think of Snarky Puppy. You ever listen to that?

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No. Um sounds like a cute name. I like it. Snarky puppy.

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Nick uh Nick turned me on to them. They are the old band, the old band uh teacher.

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Oh, Mr.

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Tech of a guitar little uh Eddie Van Halen Jr.

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Snarky Puppy.

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Mm-hmm. Mark uh Lidieri is a guitar player who plays with him. He's great.

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Okay.

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He's the only one I can name. But I have heard some of their stuff. It's pretty cool. Okay. Leif Babin Babin.

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Yes.

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That's Jaco Willink's buddy who co-authored Extreme uh.

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Man, I actually really like that book. You want me just to give you a little minute on it?

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Sure, yeah, go. Let's go. So a little more than stepping on consumption corner a little bit.

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Well, it's just okay. No, good. Let's go.

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Do it.

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Uh so you know I hate like war movies and stuff like that. I don't want to be doing it. Do you know what my favorite parts of these books are? When they're talking about the retellings of their of their sh you know, missions and things that have gone that went wrong and all those things that they it's like, who am I? And then they kind of like apply that to the business uh Yeah, and literally every business person sounds like a dumb, stupid idiot after you've heard the stories.

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Like they're like saving towns of poor, starving people.

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And then this guy's like, Well, I don't think I'm the reason that this business plan is failing.

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It's a great book, it's extreme ownership. I don't know if it's 650 at five in the morning. Yeah.

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I'm not quite done with it, but I actually can't believe how much I like the war parts. That's cool. That doesn't mean I want to watch any more warp more movies.

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Okay, because I got one. I want to I want to watch uh come and see.

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I don't want to see that.

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It's supposed to be one of the most brutal, hard to watch. One of those movies you only want to watch once. You want to watch it with me?

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No.

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I do.

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Okay, it might be one of my next bike movies. We'll see.

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Yeah, it's gonna have to be because well, I mean you can watch it without me, but not in our room while I'm trying to sleep.

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No, I don't think I wouldn't do that to you. I don't think I'd be able to sleep from what I've heard.

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Oh, great. Do you think I would want to watch that?

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No, I know you wouldn't want to watch it. Uh I did try to do a little bit of research on uh we were talking about the Fallout series on, and I'm not spoiling this. This this happened in the very well, I guess this is sort of a spoiler. Kind of. Fast forward 15 seconds. Um the part where in the very beginning of the the the That won't be enough. Very first episode. Just keep fast forwarding. Uh it's been 30 seconds. The uh the very first episode where he sees the bomb drop while he's holding his daughter at that house party, and then you asked Are they ever gonna get the storyline back up to that? Yeah, it's it's it kind of intentionally um hasn't gotten there yet. Exactly. Thank you.

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We figured that, right?

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We did. But I just wanted I wanted to double check.

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Scoopers whining.

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You're not gonna remember this, but was Larry Fishburn in Band of the Hand? Yes. He played Cream.

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Cool.

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Mm-hmm. Band of the Hand. Check it out if you haven't. If you like uh 80s teenage movies about it's kind of like Red Dawn in Florida, sorta, if I remember right. That's not exactly what it is, but uh it's got that kind of kind of feel. Okay, um I think that's the movie. I might be mixing up. Yeah, that's it. That's the one. Okay, it doesn't matter. Um Outer Space versus Inner Space. Outer space is outside the Earth's atmosphere. Inner space is like nothing.

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It's not a thing.

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It's a bunch of stuff, but not really relative to space.

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Should I go let the dog out?

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Why do you say that?

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He keeps whining and running up and down the basement steps.

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I think he's probably fine-ish.

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Okay.

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If you think so. Uh don't you want to learn more about air hockey tables?

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I do.

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You want to know about how much it costs to get a really nice, really nice air hockey table like the ones we were talking about from Event Horizon?

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Yep. Or you can do like medical exams on them and stuff.

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Yeah, exactly. Or you could operate on Mr. Justin.

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And he can operate on you.

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It's a reverse, reverse petting zero. Um about somewhere between five thousand and seventy five hundred dollars.

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I don't remember from what I guessed, but uh yeah, I think we said like three grand, maybe.

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Something like that, yeah. I'm sure you probably could probably find one for three G's.

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Okay.

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Okay. Uh 90s scientist protagonist like characters. Oh yeah. Like Dr. Gray or um or Jeff Goldblum in any number of movies that he was in. Um or Doc Brown.

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Yeah.

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Um, well, that'd be like Back to the Futures. It was technically a 90s movie. What do you think about that?

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Independence Day.

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Uh yeah, well, I already mentioned That's true. You did say Jeff Gold's Goldsbloom. Yeah, I did. Uh Gold what'd you call him? Gold's bloom. Gold's bloom. Um, yeah, there's like uh Mickey, Mickey 17. We've never seen that, have we?

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I that doesn't ring any bells to me.

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It's a sci-fi movie.

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Well, I like it.

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So Robert Pattinson.

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He's okay. He's fine.

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He's a good actor.

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He's a yeah, he got a rock off to a rocky start, but Whoa Twilight?

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Yeah. He broke he broke the uh kind of broke the um what do you call it, the mold. Yeah, like his own mold, like his own. Yeah, the Daniel Radcliffe uh mold. I don't think he quite did that, did he? He's Daniel Click. Daniel Radcliffe? Yeah.

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Oh yeah, he he's like a stage actor.

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He went like full nude right off the bat.

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I think he's pretty cool. He's broken out.

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But anyways, uh scient scientist characters in more contemporary movies. Yeah, Mickey 17, Hail Mary, uh Ryan Gosling's gonna be in that.

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Project Hail Mary.

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Yeah, Project Hail Mary. Um Matt Damon and The Martian.

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True. Yeah, I that's but see, they're not that doesn't they're not really checking my box of like that's the only type of character they play.

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They're kind of like they're closer to like a uh just like leaving man material kinda. Yeah. Okay.

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It's okay though. We can move on.

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We keep working on that. All right. I so one thing is, you know, normally I like to ask literally a hundred questions, if not more, and then I have like a whole AI prompt that I've built that goes out and researches it for me. Well, it's it just fell on its face today. Kept saying that it was too long, and and I just so I so so I don't have this too much information. I don't have the level of notes that I normally have.

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Oh my gosh, why I feel so blessed.

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It'll probably be we'll probably be better for it. VHS stands for video home system.

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Well, that's a letdown.

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What do you want it to say?

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I don't know. Something like vehicular. What do we think it's in?

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Vehicular homicidal cyst phone?

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Sir Hiss. Can I just pause? Can I just say something about Sir Hiss? Who's who's that? Sir Hiss is from the animated Robin Hood.

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Oh.

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With the fox is hot. I think we talked about that several episodes back too.

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Did we talk about the fox being hot?

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I did.

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Okay.

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Anyway, I saw a thing on Instagram where they showed all the actors that played all the voices of all those um characters. Robin, that Robinhood Robin Hood, the animated one from Disney is top tier.

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It's good. Who played who played him?

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Oh, I don't remember. Oh don't worry, they're all like what like Shakespeare actors and they're just like and there was a guy from I think Green Acres played the sheriff. They're just great. They're all like wonderful. And then a lot of them were voices in other older Disney movies as well. Sorry, I don't know why we had to say that.

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It's got a fun soundtrack.

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Yes, it does. Oodalali.

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If I remember right, yes. Golly, what a day. Mm-hmm. Uh Clavinova versus a clavinet.

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Okay.

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Clavinet was played in Use Me. Clavinova, which was what we did last time, right?

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Yes.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clavinova is a modern digital piano designed by Yamaha to emulate acoustic grand pianos. A clavinet is a 60s slash seventies electromechanical keyboard by I had no idea. With a distinct funk style plucked string sound.

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Cute, like a harpsichord.

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Clavinovas tend to have weighted keys.

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Uh clavinets do not.

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Uh I I'm assuming they don't.

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Well, did you get that from Chat Jeeps?

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No. I got it from, I don't know, like a Gemini type search return when you Google it. Um, anyways, but it doesn't matter. Uh Revenge of the Nerds. Lamar character, the actor's name. Lamar Latrell.

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Okay.

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Played by Larry B. Scott. Not Lamont Landers.

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Is that what you said?

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No, but that's what made me think of for some reason. I was trying to think of uh Lamont Latrell.

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Lamont Landers is the one who covered Choose Me that you liked.

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Yes. Yeah, with uh with Kevin Canada on the organ. On the keys. Yeah, six six solo. Uh Ace Fraley from KISS, Jack White and Dave Grohl from like the Foo Fighters, Rivana.

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I know who all those people are.

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Queens of the Stone Age. They were all furniture movers. Is that one of the ones you were thinking of?

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I don't know. No, I I was thinking of somebody who was like I think I think I was thinking of Bill Weathers and just like he was working a blue-collar job and like afraid to quit.

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I couldn't find furniture mover anywhere, but that's it.

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I think he moved something.

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I moved a little furniture this weekend.

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You did?

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Yeah. That's true. That's kind of cool. Um lastly, I think. Yeah. I said my name's Leslie. Oh.

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We've been married for 20 years. You still don't know who I am.

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I'm so sorry. It's gonna I'm gonna get it one of these days. Uh Grace Jones did her whack talk about her cover abuse me. I said it wasn't that great. I said it was kind of uh a little bit um I said a little bit new age, I meant new wave.

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Ah.

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And that's gonna be a little kind of relevant today because we're gonna talk about blondie parallel lines. We'll get there.

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We could go there.

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We'll get there, we'll go there like pretty much now. But hang on, Rob missed the corner.

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Nothing.

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This is where No, you were talking about smells, and you asked something about being French. What were you what were you saying?

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You were talking about we were talking about uh skunks, I think. What were we talking about? But I was saying that I said, is he French because we were talking about and I was Pepe Le Pew. It had a it was a reservation.

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Okay, nothing about French people. We don't have any downloads from France yet that I would know of.

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Well now we won't.

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Yeah.

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This guy's back right off.

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I touched my mic. Sorry, I'm about to touch it again.

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The French hate that. I think that's why they haven't downloaded it. UGK double you said uh you said double down on the babies and the sweethearts? Remember what you were talking about there? We're talking about UGK.

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What's UGK?

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UGK is uh Underground Kings, they're uh Pimpsy and Bun B, a little uh dirty south hip-hop duo.

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They did use me up, which double down on the babies and the sweethearts.

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Yeah, do you know what you meant?

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No, but I like it.

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I mean, I I think they would like it too. I think they would like you. I think they'd want you in their stable. Oh that's a compliment.

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Thank you. I feel complimented. I feel good. I feel a little better about who like what other people might think about me now.

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UGK's a guilty pleasure for me. They've got some they have some pretty sick beats. They're a little uh little crass.

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Uh have you do you sit down and read the transcripts of these shows? Uh oh my gosh.

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Is it uh tons of errors?

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No, they're just funny. They're just funny Oh because we're so funny. Every once in a while it'll get an error, but most of the time it's um and like remember that one time I was telling you that like I sometimes I can't tell who it is. And then I go back and listen, I'm surprised that I thought I was the one saying that, or vice versa.

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I don't know why it doesn't.

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Because it just says it says speaker zero zero zero and then it says speaker zero zero three.

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Yeah, it'll sometimes it'll sometimes I've seen up to six speakers. Apparently our voices tend to change throughout the creepy. Yeah, I gotta I gotta work on that.

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Um There's only two speakers if you're reading the transcript right now.

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Unless we give uh Gruber a mic. Well and Uncle Dan a mic.

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Oh, I want Uncle Dan to have a mic.

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I want him to. I just want him.

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I want him to have.

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I want you to hand. I want you to hand raise.

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Uncle Dan.

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And lastly, I just wanted to give a little bit more credit to Jeremy Lou Renner. Just it's just a great name. Good job.

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Thank you.

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If you want to see what Jeremy Jeremy Lou Renner might look like, you can go on Instagram. Unless he did some sort of uh morph thing. Actually, way more attractive than I would think.

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Considering Considering, yeah. But I mean she was Mary Lou Henner was pretty hot. So she had a lot to give. Oh, she got that that was a big part of their couple their Well, it was a mashup of Jeremy Renner and Mary Lou Henner.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So she gave a lot of genetics.

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Oh, but that's where a lot of the pretty comes from. Yeah. Gotcha.

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I'm just saying she was able to pull up higher.

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What about like Jeremy Wade Henner?

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Ooh. I think they're related. Because they're both named Jeremy.

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Jeremy Renner and Jeremy Wade.

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Uh-huh.

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They both kind of have the same uh craggy faces. Craggy faces.

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That I like.

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With like with uh Daniel Craig. Daniel Craig.

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Daniel Craig.

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Daniel Craig.

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It's probably like I've heard it before.

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Jer Jeremy, uh, Jeremy Renner and and and Daniel Cragg and uh and Jeremy Wade, all of them the Craig Mount Rushmore. I don't have any more.

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To make a Mount Mushmo uh Mount Rushmore with those faces. Get out of my brain.

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I might go with uh Kirk Douglas, maybe be the fourth. He's pretty craggy looking dead.

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Okay.

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Okay, that's our Mount Rushmore. Crag Crag uh Craggy Mount Rushmore. Putting that on uh you can get to work on that.

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Yep.

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Cool. Um there's some task, Task Corner.

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Did you just say Richard?

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Kirk Douglas.

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Okay.

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Richard.

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We covered Past the Glory in a couple episodes ago. What?

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Why why are we going back two episodes?

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I'm just mentioning in case you're interested in Kirk Douglas. He's a great.

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Oh, I thought this was another one.

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Fantastic Kirk Douglas movie, Stanley, Stanley Cooper. Um, okay. You we've been I've been trying to hunt down this Joni Mitchell song. You you you I either keep writing it down wrong or my right now best to you is what I found this week and listened to.

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Was that not right?

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I don't know. I took it like best for you. And I couldn't find best for you, so I found my best to you, which I kinda liked. It was kind of had like a almost like a moody blues kind of backing.

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Okay.

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Instrumentational. Does that sound right?

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Yeah, I think that's it. And your love blessed, that's my best to you. Yes. Here we go, we found it. Took a few weeks.

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And and then you you told you told me I don't remember why to listen to Tovelo have Tovlow. Tovlow.

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Well, that was my c uh my B side. Oh, okay.

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That makes sense. Gotcha. Gotcha. Was that for use me?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah, I did know that song once a while. I didn't recognize it until the chorus came on. Um it's fine. Yeah, it's How dare you make me listen to that.

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Sorry. Rob's Rob A doesn't like new music. B hates women singers, so it's two strikes against him.

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Which is why I picked Blondie this week and uh Alanis Morissette. You can pick her.

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Give me a break.

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Um, I don't love Alanis Morisset, but uh I get why people do.

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Okay.

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We'll get there.

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All right.

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So do you want to go into parallel lines? Blondie?

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Yeah, let's go for it.

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Okay, so every week for the last what ten episodes or so?

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Wow, has it been that many?

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I don't know, something like that. Maybe like five.

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Maybe five, maybe six.

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Uh last night and I listened to an album.

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I get an assignment from Rob.

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She gets an assignment. In this case, I I never listened to it either. I got a running list of you don't have like a running list of movies to watch and of which there are hundreds on the list. That's my longest list by far. I've been keeping that one going for a while. And then I have uh one for one for books and music as well.

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I want you to start putting a date next to when we do watch those things.

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When we watch like the movies on your list on the list?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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That would be a really fun thing to look back at.

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Okay.

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Because we'd be like, oh, we just watched that last year. And then be like, it was in 1997 that we watched that. Together. Oh, that was probably 2002.

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Oh, yeah, it probably was. Yeah. Sounds about right. I think I first watched it in maybe 1990.

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No, it was probably 2003, because we met in 2002.

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We did an episode on Event Horizon last week. Check it out if you're interested. Okay. Um, so but we did we decided to listen to uh Parallel Lines. Parallel Lines. I had Blondie on my list of of music to listen to. I just put it on there. I was listening to a Blondie song and I was like, I need to listen more.

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Tell me all of the tell me her name, like tell me all the names of the people in the Blondies group.

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Well, we have uh Is this different than the cartoon in the newspaper? Is that a is that like a Saturday morning comic kind of reference?

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Never read Blondie in the newspaper? Did you ever read the comics in the newspaper?

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I I I didn't I never liked them. Oh never never got it.

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There were the sun in the Sunday paper. The Sunday funnies, I think. Just you know, I'm not much of a There was a blonde a comic called Blondie.

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If you can't listen to it, maybe somebody would have read it to me.

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Someone probably tried to see it. Oh my gosh, I have to post your pet peeves.

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Oh, okay. You want to do that right now?

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No, on Instagram.

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Oh, okay.

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No, go ahead and talk to about tell me the names of the Blondie people.

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The names of the Blondie people are uh at least for parallel lines, is Debbie Harry is on vocals. Um Chris Stein was on guitar. Clem Burke on drums. Clem? Clem. Heck of heck of a drummer.

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Like Clemson?

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He filled in, he's good enough to fill in for the Who at some point. Uh Keith Moon left some big shoes. Um Jimmy Destry. Moon boots, you might say. Moon boots. That's what his friends, that's what his friends called him. Umer space. And they'd be like, he'd be like, just space is fine. There's no inner space. And he recommended our podcast right now. And then he would he would take one set of Deepot, too. He will be in our concert, I believe.

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Keith Moon Boots?

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Keith Moon Boots will, yeah. We're having a concert for a bunch of dead uh dead people.

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They're it's not for them. They'll be starring. It's for us.

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It's for them. I mean glory.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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But it's for anyone who wants to buy a ticket.

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Robert Duval will be in it. He just died this week, poor guy.

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What's he gonna do? Act?

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Yeah, he'll act. Yeah, he'll he'll handle he'll be like the uh what conciliary between um because there's gonna be some sort of mafia presence.

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Someone else died too that was from uh what's that m sh not Scrubs, but the serious one?

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Um uh ER? Grays Anatomy? Grace Anatomy. Who?

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I don't I don't think I would someone watch that show. A younger guy, maybe he's like closer to 50 or something.

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Oh then uh what's his face uh died too? Uh um Dawson.

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Oh yeah? What's his name? Uh Vanderbeek?

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Yeah, James Vanderbeek. Yeah. Yeah, man.

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Yeah, a lot of greats.

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Shoot. Well, um Robert Duvals was a good one. You guys can all come if you're listening to this uh somewhere out there.

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But if you don't play any instruments or sing, then you can't perform.

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You can watch and maybe fill in some space between acts if you're working on something.

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You can be like, here's a few scenes from my best work.

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But George Sakai and uh Kitty Wills are the hosts. Pretty much got the MC uh locked down. Yeah, but they need but they need a break too. And then you got Frank and Fante on the guitar as well. That's that's the that's the lineup.

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See a baby. They should have called themselves Moon Boots and a baby. Oh wait, Frank Moon wasn't in Bonnie.

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Wait, who was it in Bonnie? Frank Moon. Keith? Keith. Wow. Wow.

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Old Frank Moon. If you've known him as long as I have, that's Frank Moon Boots.

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Yeah.

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He's like, Rob, you can call me Frank.

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Anyway, Moon Boots and the baby.

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So yeah, uh, it's their shoot, when did this come out? I think 1978. Yes, 1978. This was like their big breakthrough.

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Yeah, it had two hits. It had Heart Heart of Glass and Well, probably one way or another.

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Yeah. It had six singles on it though. So like uh Oh really? Yeah, uh, Picture This, I'm Gonna Love You Too, which is like the Buddy Holly cover.

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Oh.

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What did you think about that? Did you know the the original song?

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Is that one a real short one?

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Uh it's pretty short, yeah.

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You gonna say you?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um I I didn't really realize that was I I didn't think it matched the rest of the album. Is that the one that I'm thinking of? It's it towards the end of the track list.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yeah, it's kind of sounded like Sunday Girl on there, which is also kind of I mean, there's a lot of songs that have a little bit of that old sound to it, like um uh what's the heck's the name of the one? Pretty Pretty Baby? Like they that could that almost has like a doo-op, like a doo-op chorus, which I actually really like pretty baby a lot.

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See the order and make sure I'm thinking of the right one.

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Um I I don't love I've so I love Buddy Holly. Buddy Holly's one of my one of my favorite.

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I'm gonna love you too. That's what you're saying is the Buddy Holly song. Yeah, yeah. I I that one came on, I was like, is this still the right album? But I don't really caught my attention. I was like, is this and I didn't. It was okay.

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Yeah, I don't love Buddy Holly covers. I love Buddy Holly. I don't like I've heard The Grateful Dead do Buddy Holly, I've heard Linda Ronsad do Buddy Holly.

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I just only Buddy Holly can do Buddy Holly.

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I mean, I we're gonna do a Buddy Holly cover.

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What are we gonna do?

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I don't know.

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Um Can we not do everyday? I hate that song.

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You hate that song?

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That's just so I have to do it a lot.

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You're gonna we're gonna get get the uh xylophone out again, the glockenspiel or whatever.

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Well, unless we give it back.

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Uh he said we can just he's like, I don't care. Just keep going. He did?

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Yeah, did you ask him?

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I just said, hey, do we need to get that back to you? Folks at home, hi. Um Rob Shoecracker.

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Oh, podcast.

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We're talking about uh we're talking about a xylophone that we uh borrowed. Well, Carol that's a good one.

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Our daughter Caroline brought home to practice for school and never ever touched it once, but we used it to do a song we did um I'm so proud.

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Mm-hmm by the impressions. Curtis Mayfield and Okay, so yeah, I don't I would I don't know. We probably maybe like True Love Ways. I love that song. But if you don't like if you don't like uh everyday uh let's talk about the Blondie album. Let's talk more about Blondie.

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What I definitely really liked Fade Away and Radiate.

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I love that song.

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And I liked hanging on the telephone and picture this. I liked I skipped one way or another every time.

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Let's come back to the three you just mentioned in a moment, but what why do you skip one way or another?

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Just heard it's six trillion times.

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It's a great song, but Yeah, I mean I see why it's on there, I see why people like it.

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It's in every movie, it's in you know, it's just so I've just heard it, I'm just done hearing it.

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I see, I've heard Heart of Glass a million times.

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Oh, I have two, but I didn't know it was blonde.

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Oh, okay. Well, now you do. Do you like that song?

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Yeah.

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I think that song's super cool.

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How do you feel about her voice?

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I like it a lot. I think she's got uh she's she's done um I think she's pretty great.

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Do you think it's a pretty voice?

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It can be. She's capable of pretty. She's also capable of being of of rocking out. Um she's kind of pretty. She was a Playboy bunny. I don't know if you know that. I did not look up her pictures. Any pictures of did you budget?

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Should I put it on Instagram?

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Check them out and let me know if they're worth looking at. Okay.

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Sure will. Can't wait.

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But uh no, I like her voice. Um it's um I yeah, on all these songs, she kind of has different she showcases it differently for the song.

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Like, it's incredibly versatile, that's for sure.

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Exactly. Yeah, she uses her voice as a tool quite well. There's never there's nothing about it that I find to be like annoying. Um, unlike some other people sweet Canadian friend, who we'll get to. Yeah. Yeah. Um I'm looking up pictures of the pictures of Debbie Harry. So Blondie is one of those bands like did we talk about Jethro Tall? Yeah, thick as a brick. Kind of like Jethro Tall, Steely Dan, Nine Inch Nails, which we might talk about.

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We're at 40 minutes already.

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Are we really?

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Yeah.

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Where people thought that was the name of like her, that was her. Like, well, sorry, people like people would f refer to Blondie as if she was Blondie. Yeah. And it was kind from what I found anyway, kind of named after. Like Blondie was kind of named because people would call her Blondie all the time. Uh-huh. That's true. But uh her name's not uh Debbie Harry, by the way. It's nothing like that.

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I can't remember exactly what her name is, but Might you tell us that her name was Debbie Harry then?

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Well, that's what you know, that's what everybody knows. Stage name knows her as.

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Um you should start making up names for everyone.

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Yeah, I she said something about being in like about inspired by Dirty Harry. And I I didn't I didn't get the full story. It's it was somewhere in my when you were talking to her. Yeah, well she did. She did a lot for hip-hop.

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Really?

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Yeah, not on this album, but in I think uh 80, maybe 1980, she it was uh, you know, the song Rapture? You would know it if you heard it.

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Okay.

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Um you might be more familiar with Kara.

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I think people can hear me shrugging my shoulders.

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If you want to see Leslie Shrug her shoulders, check out YouTube. No, but she did so she actually raps. It's not the greatest rap, it's better than like who's the who's the girl who who's the they used to call her the kindergarten rapper. Oh, that you hate uh uh Ken Kinja or Kinja?

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No, oh yeah, I'll think of it.

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Anyways, it's Kesha. Kesha, yeah, yeah. It's not it's better than Kesha, but it's not, it's not uh it's not MC Light or Lady of Rage. It's uh but she did a bunch of shout-outs to like Fab Five Freddy and Grandmaster Flash. And this was at a time when like hip hop I don't know why I'm talking about Rapture's not even on this album, but it was at a it was at a time when hip-hop was in its infancy. And sh and basically she took like Blondie was on top of the world at this point, so she propelled it. Kind of like with like the Aerosmith run DMC a few years later, that that whole mashup. Like it was one of those really groundbreaking breaking milestone moments for for making hip hop mainstream. So a lot of uh hip hip hoppers, a lot of heads like to uh give a shout out to Blondie.

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All right.

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Um, but so Fade Away and Radiate, do you like that song a lot?

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I did.

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I really like that tune.

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That's yeah, I felt like that to me was a bit more rock and roll than some of the other stuff on the album.

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I just like the the mood of it. And uh do you know who Robert Fripp is?

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No.

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He he's like one of those guitarist guitarists. Like a lot of a lot of like gear heads and folks who like getting the most out of their guitar, like idolize Robert Fripp. He was in King Crims King Crimson. I'm not like a huge Robert Fripp guy, but he's he's great and he's awesome on this album. He has a adds a ton to it. They really wanted to get him on there. Um, I think he's been a little bit of a of a session guy, or at least he's played on a lot of a lot of stuff. But, anyways, that's part of part of the reason I love the song is because the guitar is great. Um, this whole album has a lot of sweet sweet tracks. Guitar licks, and the the drummer is fantastic, and uh yeah, Chris Stein and Blondie or uh Debbie Harry, they had a little bit of a relationship. Oh apparently recording of this was a bit of a mess. Like they're really immature, always fighting with each other, always like there'd be times there'd be like about to record a song, and she'd be like finishing the lyrics for it, you know, which is actually pretty awesome. I love stories like that. But um, yeah, this this was one of they got a little bit of uh heat for this, kind of like in the way I guess like Bob Dylan did, but kind of when he crossed over from folk to like electric, um, where like they were too because they they kind of came from like the punk scene. Uh they started off playing Is this like too mainstream-y? Yeah, like too, what did they call it? Like too too pop to be punk and too punk to be pop kind of thing.

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Yeah.

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But I mean, it's still one of the greatest selling albums of all time. I mean, it was a huge, huge, massive success. And I I I really like it a lot. I will probably be listening to a bit more Blondie in the coming days.

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I'm sure mine will factor its way into my algorithm now.

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Yeah, what do you what I mean? Tell me.

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I I oh I I liked it. I liked it a lot. Some songs I don't have any real specific things to say.

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Okay.

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And that's that's me. You you I just want to talk about what time it is.

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Okay, okay. Let's keep moving.

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Yeah, we we Because what else are we gonna because I can't remember 90 minutes and my soul starts to die.

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Okay, okay, okay, okay. So let's move on.

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So you can continue to look at it as I'm sitting here.

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I'm almost done with carrying comfort. We'll talk about it next week. Okay. Um I was gonna talk about Bruno Mars' Grammy performance. Do we want to do that at all?

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I would highly recommend you check out any live Bruno Mars, but the most recent Grammys are amazing.

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What do you do? I just might. Yeah, I just think that song kind of sounds like uh Leo Sayers um You Make Me Feel Like Dancing.

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Yeah, it does. Make me feel like dancing.

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Good, good. I'm glad you're glad you think that too.

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I'll just say that a shout out to the his band who also was singing and dancing. Yeah. Choreographed to I mean, sometimes I've like watched people, I'm like, how do they know if they're gonna go left or right? And they're all going the same way. Like, I would forget.

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I imagine they practice a few times.

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I know, but they're also thinking about playing their horns and singing harmony.

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Trombone player, if you're listening, buddy. Uh my wife uh has got a little bit of a thing for you. That's right.

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Anyway.

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Uh battered, anything you want to say more about Blondie?

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No parallel lines. We gotta keep it.

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Okay, okay, okay, whoa. I watched the battered bastards.

Battered Bastards of Baseball Documentary Discussion

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. We did though, because you brought you're the one that brought up Bruno Mars.

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I know. I watched the Battered Bastards of Baseball.

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Oh, what's that?

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Uh it's a it was a movie on Netflix, uh 2016, I think. Uh, about the Portland Mavericks, which is a 70s single-A baseball team. They were the last I could see the look in your eye. You're just like, baseball documentary.

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Two things that you I've trying to keep up.

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It's honestly, I think you'd like it.

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Okay.

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First of all, Kurt Russell's in most of it.

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How was that a documentary? Was he did he play?

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Well, yeah, so yeah, he played he played for them.

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Okay.

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And his dad, Bing Russell, was the owner. And Bing Russell was an actor. He was a uh they referred to him, I think, as a as a plumber, a plumber actor, because he just worked. He was in Bonanza, he was killed 126 times throughout uh all the westerns he's been in.

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Oh wow.

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He was uh in the music man, huge in the music man. Like he talked about the music man a lot, even in the documentary.

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About baseball?

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You would love being Russell. Uh yeah.

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He was kind of just a is he as cute as Kurt Russell?

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He's not. Oh no, no. Um, I'd say I don't know what Kurt Kurt's a nice blend of his mom and his and his dad. Okay. But it's a great documentary. It's it's pretty light, it's um, it's kind of moving. It's like about a ragtag group of people of of baseball players who basically I'll just I'll keep it short. The major league kind of just took over all the territories for baseball in in the country, and there was just one one holdout essentially, and it was Bing Russell's independent team of again double single A baseball, you know, single A, double A, triple A, and then majors. And no one expected anything of him. He got like a dirt got him for dirt cheap. He had tryouts, and like all these ball players from just all over the country came in to to try out, and uh I could elaborate more, but it was just a kind of a ragtag, like not bad news bears, but kind of that's really distracting.

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I'm listening. It's a ragtag group, it's like bad news bears.

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Well, he's just accumulating fur on the dog right now.

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I did not I'm not accumulating, it's already there.

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That dog has a name. That dog has a name. And dude, can you stop?

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Gosh. There's so many things I can't do. I can't move my feet. I can't talk to somebody who's won't. I'm just petting him.

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I'm not You're not just petting him. You're just styling his hair.

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And now he's eating it.

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And he's eating it.

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Styling it.

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Awesome. Okay, anyways, I highly recommend it. I'll I'll just I'll I'll cut it. I'll cut it off. Uh no, no spoilers.

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Okay.

Nine Inch Nails Concert Breakdown

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Okay. What else do you want to talk about? What book what book did you read?

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Uh nothing.

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Oh.

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Just the uh extreme ownership.

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Okay. I haven't gotten any further. No motorcycle. Any kind of motorcycle anything?

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No, no motorcycle at all.

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Just talk about the Nine Inch Nails show that I went to real quick.

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That of course. That's a see that's allowed.

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Okay. I went to Nine Inch Nails concert over the weekend. First Nine Inch Nails concert. Uh uh Boys Noise opened up for them. Spell boys? Uh B uh Well, sorry.

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I is it like kids?

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Yeah.

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BOIs is a good thing.

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It's actually pretty cool. I mean, it's not my not my thing. I was a little bummed that like so you know, down we're we were up in like the 300 level in the shot and scene.

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So like nosebleeds.

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Mm-hmm. But down, you know, down where everybody's standing, like by the stage, first of all, there were three stages that were that were used.

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Oh wow. Even during the nine inch nails show.

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Yeah, yeah, mainly two, but yeah. Um, and no one was like no one was dancing or doing anything. They were just kind of standing there, which is kind of I mean there was like a mosh pit once nine inch nails came out. Oh, but nobody for boys noise. No one, no one for boys noise. I would totally have danced to boys. I was getting down for boys noise. Yeah, so the the show, first of all, just incredibly tight. Like I ne I don't think I've ever been to a show with with somebody as huge as Trent Reznor where where he came out on time and ended on time.

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I feel like I would like this trent Trent Reznor. As a human, just as a person. Thank you for starting on time, sir.

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He's pretty dark.

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He started on time, though. You know how he did. Yeah, he's right to my heart.

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Yeah, it was actually really cool the way they did it. So Boys Noise finished his his thing.

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Like Boys Noise is a one person?

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Yeah. Yeah, as far as I could tell.

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So it's probably like an apostrophe apostrophe Z. B-O-Y apostrophe Z.

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Oh.

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Or maybe it's an Oh wow. Huh. It's a correction scorer, perhaps. Um so as soon as Boys Noise finished basically the last note of his song, he his stage goes down. He's on the far side. Oh, that's cool. And then in the middle, there's a big middle stage that was just kind of veiled. It was just covered in black, this giant cube. Looked like the big uh, I don't want to offend anybody. But okay. So as soon as Boy's Noise stopped, the cube unveiled, and Trent Reznor was out on the piano, and he opens up. I got the set list here for for those who care about such things. Played oh I opened up with Wish, and it was kind of like they start off real slow on the P on the keys, just him singing. These girls were like the the scene there was way different than Bob James.

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Oh, I bet.

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Bob James was like a bunch of folks in their Sunday best, yeah. You know, and hats and I mentioned it was like it was like the Matrix, kind of, yeah. Which is exactly what I wanted to see. But uh, yeah, but uh women uh and I mentioned men too, love Trend Resnner. He's he's a handsome guy.

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Is he cute? I don't know what he looks like.

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He's 60 now, but uh yeah, look him up. He's he's I think he's a good looking dude. Um and uh Atticus Ross. So nine inch nails, I'll I'll read the said list in a second, but at nine inch nails, I I I'm not a huge like I don't listen to a ton of them. No, you don't think so?

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He's a little uh stalloney. Okay, like a his face a little long. Anyway, continue.

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Okay.

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We're all allowed to have our own opinions. That's fine. He looks good here.

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He's not gonna be on Mount Rushmore.

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He looks good when his face is covered with a beard. Okay, keep going.

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He's got a little bit of a uh um Negan look to him. Yeah, he does.

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Negan's cuter though.

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Jeff Jeffrey crab. Okay. Alright, so um, yeah, Atticus Ross is the other official member of Nine Inch Nails. Up until I think 20, when he whenever he joined, about 10 years ago, um, it was just Rasner was the only member. So Nine Inch Nails, people say them.

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It's just trend.

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More of a he. Yeah. But he's got touring guys he tours with.

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Right. We'd have to, right?

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Yes, yes. Um Josh Freese was the drummer. That dude was great. He was my favorite part of the show, I'd say. Uh he was just, he's played for, I wrote down some of the bands he's played. The Vandals. He's played for Devo, Guns of Roses, Devo, Paramour.

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Oh.

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Perfect Circle. Uh, Sublime with Rome Ramirez. Uh, he must have replaced Bud during the show or something. I don't know. But, anyways, he was sick. He was just great. Uh according to Trent Reznor, the best F and drummer on the planet. He liked the F-word a lot.

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Oh, I bet.

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Um, so he played Wish, March of the Pigs, Piggy, The Lovers, Less Than, Heresy. He'd like that song. Perfect Drug, The Hand That Feeds, Head Like a Hole, and Hurt. He finished with Hurt.

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Oh, wow.

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Do you know any of those songs?

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I know Hurt.

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I bet you know uh well he played closer, too.

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I only know Hurt because of Johnny Cash, Jonathan Cash, Money.

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Johnny Cash did uh did a great Trent Trent Reznor approved. You know, uh, you know who Trent Reznor's first major influence was?

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Who?

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The Eagles.

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Wow.

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Sounds nothing like the Eagles, but he you saw the Eagles back in 76.

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And he was like, this is for me.

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And he said, I want to do, I want to do this. And he did. You did it, Trent.

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He did it, Trent.

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The show was the show was really cool.

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Does he have children?

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I don't know. Corrections Corner. Next week we'll find out about all about the corner. Corrections and RD corner? Sure, Roll-up Corner.

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Follow up R D. I like R D.

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R D.

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Yeah. Um They stands for Robin Desley.

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Honey, you don't even know your name. So it just like, first of all, you wouldn't have liked it. It was super, super loud. Really loud.

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Yeah, I know I wouldn't have liked it. I'm really glad you got to go with all your buds.

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Yeah, it was cool. It was for my buddy Dwangle's Bachelor Party, and uh we all went. No one was huge Niters Nails fan, but everybody was just happy to be there and just everybody there likes music. So it was just like, let's go see somebody who's yeah. So it was a great experience. Just the whole the lights and the visuals and just the way they were synced. It was it was it was just perfectly played. Like it was very polished, very engineered. It was way different from like a lot of the jazz stuff that it we go and see.

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Which is just people coming on playing their instruments essentially.

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Just going, not a production. Yes, this was like an experience, and it was a great one. I really enjoyed it. Um the cameraman, I want to just give a shout out to him. So they have like screens up the whole time and um kind of just getting close-ups on the people.

SPEAKER_05

If you've been to a big concert, you've seen that, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but this camera guy, you he's just running around, like literally sprinting at times, and he's squatting and he's doing like these like isometric like walking lunges while he's trying to get under the drums from different angles. This guy must have been in really good shape.

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Yeah, really fit.

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Yeah.

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Well, have you seen have you seen that like when they when you watch like figure skaters and then like you they zoom out and show the figure skater with the guy in the that's ice skating with the camera around. Oh yeah. It's like that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He might have had ice skates on.

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He should have.

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He would have been a lot faster if you did. I should uh if you hey, but if you're listening, Mr.

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Camera guy.

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Maybe lose the ice skates if you were if you wore them. Um but yeah, Dynast Nails, man, they've uh Trent Rezzer's worth about a hundred million dollars.

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Good for Trent.

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He's uh they've had they did uh just a lot of soundtracks, and I mean they've a lot of huge success. I was a little bummed they did not play Dead Souls, which is my favorite Night Hales song. It's on the crow soundtrack. So it's a great tune. Um you want to move off of Night Hales, we've got to keep moving off.

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I only do because we've been talking for an hour and almost 10 minutes.

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Okay.

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Well, we've been talking for 57 minutes.

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All right, here we go. We're moving on to X-Files. Should we? Let's do it. Let's do it.

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Now, this is my favorite part of the podcast.

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Yes.

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When we get to the topic that I am prepared to talk about.

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So we really enjoy talking about shows and movies, things we've watched. I think it's slowly becoming our main topics, even the last time we did migraines. We've talked about crock pots.

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I thought last time we did Event Horizon.

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Oh, no.

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Migraines was before that.

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Uh oh, you're right.

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I am right because I just did the post for it.

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Okay. Sorry about that.

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We're two ups behind posting. Okay. Ahead of posting, rather. Anyway, so yeah, we did Event Horizon movie last week, and now we're doing uh a two-part episode of X-Files, but it's not like a to-be-continued. It was like two standalone episodes, but they went together because they were about the same guy.

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Yep, season.

SPEAKER_05

And they were separated by about what?

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Twenty-some episodes. Uh separated by about twenty episodes.

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I was not allowed to watch the X-Files because I used to suffer from terrible nightmares. I've told the story about my dad in my bed.

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On the podcast?

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Yeah.

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I don't think so.

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Haven't I?

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Uh I don't know.

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Should I tell it?

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Tell it maybe I mean, tell the one of the 27, I'm sure, hasn't heard it.

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That's true. Uh so I used to have really bad nightmares, and I was literally afraid of everything. I I do have vague memories of my sister getting me out of my crib and telling me that I needed to be good or that the devil would take me to hell. So maybe that's where it started. She's so sweet. I know. She's very doubtful to it. Um, so anyway, maybe that's where it all started. But anyway, I was very, very scared of things. And when I was very young, my mom would like, I think she just I don't think she cared as much about me being scared as she probably, now that I'm a mom, I think it probably was more about her just wanting to sleep all night long and like be left alone.

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It's understandable. Uh-huh. She's allowed that.

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Yes, yes. So I wasn't allowed to watch anything scary. And that the music terrified me because my sister loved it, so she would watch it and I would have to like go somewhere else. Because you know, back in the day with one TV in the family room, and that da da da da da da creepy opening song. So anyway.

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It's great. Uh I mean classics. Clark was watching it with us. He came up in the last five minutes, and he's like, This is what that song's from? Yeah. Yeah, Mark's knowledge.

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They sample it on like reels and and TikTok and stuff. Um, YouTube Shorts. Clark's our son, by the way. That's right. Uh so anyway, I was one night I couldn't sleep because I'd had a nightmare, and I woke up in the middle of the night, my window was open, and I was on the second floor, and my dog was on the outside, and he was barking, barking, barking, and so I was just like absolutely terrified, convinced that someone was climbing up the side of the house, and that's why the dog was barking. And so I screamed and pretended to have had a nightmare.

SPEAKER_02

That actually makes a lot of sense with old tombs. He was a climber.

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Oh, yeah, it's relevant.

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Yeah.

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So my mom came in to see why I was screaming, and then I told her I was scared, and so she is like, let's go downstairs and we'll put the dog in the house, and he won't bark anymore. So we go downstairs, it's the middle of the night, like 12 or 1, and we go back upstairs, and we had never turned on any lights or anything. And she goes around my bed in the dark to shut the window, and I start to climb into my bed, and there is a person in my bed.

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A man.

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A man.

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And I'm like Hutchinson.

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Scream, who's that?

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You played Tim.

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Oh.

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So I start screaming and running in and out of the room. My mom is screaming. Why are you screaming? My sister had her own phone in her room, so she was about ready to call 911 because she could hear us all screaming.

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Finally, the person in the bed like reached up and turned the ceiling fan light on, and it was my dad.

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He just fell asleep.

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Yeah, he went in to see what we were doing and fell asleep on our bed in my bed.

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Classic hour.

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And I was just like, literally, the only thing I'm afraid of is someone in my room. I'm afraid of all versions of that.

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He's probably like, what was all screaming about last night?

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Yeah.

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I love that he wasn't even trying to scare you. He just fell asleep in your bed.

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Yeah, no, he just was like, What are you guys doing? And he just slept. But I wrote in my notes of this watching this that my mom was right to keep me from watching the as well. Because there were some moments where I was like, like reaching out for your hand, because it's like scary.

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It it was kind of scary. Yeah. I I I mean, yes, it's it's a scary.

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Like there's some the way they shoot it is scary because like they you know how like when you're in a you're watching a show and like they the the main character will be off to the side, so you're kind of primed to watch like what's coming from behind. Well they kept doing that, but then he wouldn't be there and it would like they'd they'd have a different angle and he'd be somewhere else. So anyway.

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Yeah.

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Tombs.

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Yeah, this was like the first monster episode.

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Oh.

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They kind of they wanted, I guess the producers wanted to kind of branch out a little not just have aliens.

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Yeah.

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Um, this was like a bit uh apparently this this whole the filming of all these was just a a big mess. Like blondie parallel parallel line style.

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Really?

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Yeah, I just uh people weren't getting along and they didn't you know they didn't know what to do, and people were questioning Doug Hudginson was changing things, and he's gotta be the king of the creeps. He played Tomb.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, did you just say that already? And I forgot his name already.

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But yeah, he he was um yeah, Eugene Victor Tombs. He was in uh The Green Mile. You haven't seen that, have you?

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I can't remember. Is that the one no, I'm thinking Shaw Shank. I don't think I've seen The Green Mile.

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No, with Michael Clark Duncan. No. Stephen King.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I think I've read it. I think I've read it.

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Oh, really? Okay. Well, he was a jerk in that. He was uh he was in Conair, he was in Lost, he was he in Conair?

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I guess I can't remember.

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I shouldn't have said it.

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We'll tune in next week.

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He was in Punisher Warzone, which was my favorite Punisher movie.

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Okay.

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Um, with he was Looney Ben Jim, if you remember him. He was he uh got into a little bit of trouble for. Marrying a 16-year-old.

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How old was he?

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Like 51-ish.

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He should have gotten in more than a little bit of trouble.

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Joel McHill used used to love grilling them on the soup. Yeah, he's uh he's a total uh he's a total creep.

X-Files: Squeeze Episode Discussion

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Sounds like it.

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Yeah. Um, but you know, he's he's kind of a great actor. He's perfect for he's the perfect typecast creepy dude like so we watched an episode called Squeeze, and they were were they both from season one? Yes, season one, episode three, and season one, episode twenty-one, I believe.

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Yeah, so uh Squeeze was the first one. Basically, there's people are getting killed, or a person gets killed, and there's no sign of how the person could have gotten in or out. Uh and then of course, David DuCovney's character, Foxy Mulder. How do you say it? Mulder or Mulder?

SPEAKER_02

Those both sound the same to me. Mulder.

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I think my sister had a boyfriend who used to get really angry with how we said it. And he'd be like, it's not Mulder, it's Mulder. It was not Uncle Dan. Just saying. I won't say his name was.

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This is the this is the only episode uh I think it was the first one of the two-parter where she where uh Scully calls him Fox. That's the only time.

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He says don't call me that.

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It's the only time other than the last episode, I think.

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Was that in the first one though, or the second one?

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Maybe it was the second one. I think it was the second one when they were doing surveillance.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so anyway, he f he sees and basically the person's liver was ripped out. So then they make this connection that every thirty years five people are getting killed and their livers are getting ripped out. They for the last hundred years or something.

SPEAKER_02

They pick liver apparently just because they thought it was the funniest of the organs.

SPEAKER_05

Well, it's also the most sustaining of the things.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Like it made sense for the plot.

SPEAKER_05

I I so I question some of these uh So basically they're trying to figure out they're trying to find out who's doing it, and then they get a fingerprint, and the fingerprint mat matches someone who's over a hundred over a hundred years old.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Ninety started in nineteen oh three.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it was when they had the first murder.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Uh and so they're like, well, it can't be him.

SPEAKER_02

Or no, nineteen oh seven, I think.

SPEAKER_05

No, I think three, because it was three six then thirty-three sixty-three-ninety three, because that's when the episode came out.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

And then then and then we'll so we'll we'll talk, we'll we'll do our notes here in a second. But then the second episode that we watched about it was basically in the in the first episode they catch him and and he's like hospitalized in like a criminal psychiatric hospital.

SPEAKER_02

First episode's called Squeeze, by the way.

SPEAKER_05

And the second one's called Tombs, and in the second one they let him out, of course. Because he's got such a good thing. I got some questions about that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I'd love to know your opinion.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, sure. I have him. I have one. The very first sentence I wrote, crazy ass doctors, no one would ever let that guy out.

SPEAKER_02

So Leslie used to work in psychiatric facilities.

SPEAKER_05

Anyway, I'd also like to know how so in the second one, Mulder is obsessed with his whereabouts because he believes that he will re offend because he needs to have five livers and he only successfully got four livers in the first episode. Okay, so that's this that's the essence of the two Eps. So now, let's see what you got for us.

SPEAKER_02

What I got for you?

SPEAKER_05

And squeeze.

SPEAKER_02

Well, um, I thought again, I think they casted the even though he's a a a creep, I think they casted the perfect guy. I think he uh I wrote down that he looks like a uh looks like eleven and Austin Butler had a baby.

SPEAKER_05

Who's Austin Butler?

SPEAKER_02

Uh he played Elvis in the Oh okay. He was in Dune 2. He was like really creepy white. Well, there are a lot of white guys in that creepy white guys in that, but he was the creepiest.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well that's not even true.

SPEAKER_05

But it's I thought that the opening sequence of that was terrifying. Of Dune 2 or squeeze in this episode. Because the guy's watching him from the sewer.

SPEAKER_02

The business. Oh, yeah, very uh Pennywise. Yes. It's actually the whole story kind of has a little bit of a penny. Didn't Pennywise do like periodic killings? Wasn't it he like go rest for a while and then come back?

SPEAKER_05

And also he would like use the the pipes and things like that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So that's I like that he's going after I mean he he he doesn't seem to discriminate too much, but I like that he's going after large men.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's a nice change of pace.

SPEAKER_05

It is, it was really nice. I didn't expect that guy's the voice to be so nice when he was on the phone calling his wife to say that he was gonna be like, I know.

SPEAKER_02

I thought he was gonna I thought like a secretary was gonna come in and get under his desk and do something. Yeah. But uh no, he was just a nice guy. He's just like a nice guy.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, poor guy.

SPEAKER_02

Ripped out, not cut out.

SPEAKER_05

And it says barehanded liver ripping out. How?

SPEAKER_02

Well, he's got those elongated fingers.

SPEAKER_05

Does that make them strong enough to rip a liver out?

SPEAKER_02

It does. Yeah. Do you have that on very good authority? Of the many, many martial arts that I've studied, uh huh. That was uh that's featured in a lot of them.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

It's like if guys who have the longest fingers, they normally get put in a workshop to go, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

It's like weight class, but for fingers.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. The first anytime you go to a martial arts class, you they line you up by rank and then they ask you to put your fingers out. And then they say, you, you, you, you, you, come with me. That's little piggy, come with me.

SPEAKER_05

That's right.

SPEAKER_02

That's more for toes.

SPEAKER_05

We, we, we.

SPEAKER_02

That's advance.

SPEAKER_05

All the way home.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know how he ripped their levers off.

SPEAKER_05

Do you think his toes grew?

SPEAKER_02

He's he had some sort of super strength though. And he had some ability, at least in his fingers, because he could climb up a sheer face wall.

SPEAKER_05

Like kind of like a gecko.

SPEAKER_02

You made an Alex Honnold reference, uh, the free solo guy.

SPEAKER_05

I did.

SPEAKER_02

He'd be a great Alex Hondold, if he really applied himself, would be great at climbing into people's windows and ripping.

SPEAKER_05

He really would decide to do something with his life.

SPEAKER_02

Could Alex Honnold rip write us in audience will like it a gym. You know what?

SPEAKER_05

I believe that he could rip your liver out, but his hands have to be crazy. Yeah. His grip strength is strong enough to rip the liver out.

SPEAKER_02

I bet he could.

SPEAKER_05

How do you spell his last name?

SPEAKER_02

Uh H-O-N-O-L-D.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, like Ronald with a H in the B.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe, I'm guessing.

SPEAKER_05

Uh I wrote it, I liked their the banter between the between the two of them.

SPEAKER_02

They chemist their chemistry is is great. But it it was like early in the series too, so it was almost like they were, I don't know, still like getting a bit of a you know skepticism healthy skepticism, but she can't deny the evidence. And I love the whole just um this is kind of over both over both of them, but that they have just absolutely rock solid evidence across the board.

SPEAKER_05

And they're like, you are so crazy and stupid, this can't be it.

SPEAKER_02

It's just too crazy to but then they got, you know, what did they fingerprints, they have his whereabouts linked to him.

SPEAKER_05

Eventually they have his bite mark.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, his bite. Not just his dental records. And that the freaking uh the guy, the Scully's old buddy from from uh wherever she got her her ex fire ghost degree. Um, she went to like uh what'd she go to like West Point or something? I have no idea. Anyways, he was uh obnoxious. Yeah, he was like, Donald uh Donald Log, I think is his name, or Logue. He was in you're not gonna care or know what I'm talking about, but he was in V uh Blade. He's like one of the biggest jerks in Blade. Uh, no, Blade.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I've seen Blade. You made me watch it. I've seen it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and Chris Christofferson.

SPEAKER_05

Aww.

SPEAKER_02

Aw. Um anyways, I hated that guy.

SPEAKER_05

My uh a thing that I liked that when they were um they were like uh staking out the building where the murder had happened and they were in the parking garage. Yeah, she wouldn't close her door because she didn't want to make noise. And then she ran across the parking garage in heels. I didn't even know. That's great.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I love uh I'm always a huge fan of the trope where and I can't think of a single other place, but I know I've seen it a million times, where the screws come out kind of by themselves from the other side. It's a great little touch. And he does that, what, at least twice.

SPEAKER_05

At least two times, yeah. Yeah, when uh Well, three times. Because he does it in uh in DuCovny's apartment in the second episode.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay. Does he do it in shoulder pants apartment or house? You don't talk about it.

SPEAKER_05

No, he comes in through the fireplace like Santa Claus in that one.

SPEAKER_02

That's right. That's right. Do you know they actually use a contortionist for like a real contortionist for a lot of people?

SPEAKER_05

Did he like film all that?

SPEAKER_02

Called uh contortionist neighbor, I believe, was Pepper.

SPEAKER_05

Pepper?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was um it was Nathan Lane.

SPEAKER_05

Man, Nathan Lane, has he subscribed yet?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I can't wait till he dies and be in our concert. I hope so. Um has he subscribed? I don't know. I love the fingerprint software and uh all the software that they use. Or the and the bite mark software the dental record one. Was that in the second one? I have notes.

SPEAKER_05

I have notes about that.

SPEAKER_02

I love 90s.

SPEAKER_05

Just texted dad.

SPEAKER_02

I oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05

All right.

SPEAKER_02

Um so we're gonna go pick up what we're gonna do.

SPEAKER_05

Everybody just hold on. For you it'll be no time at all. For us, it's gonna be at 30 minutes. We're gonna go pick him up, pick up our child, and we'll be right back. Can you tell me some more about the computer stuff you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_02

Um actually, I was just yeah, I'll tell you some more about some computer stuff here. Okay. From the X Files that we were talking about. Yeah, that's what we were at. Yeah, that's gonna be wild, wow. It's gonna be so weird from ELSI. I'd go pick up Clark from a basketball game. And I was listening to Todd Rundgren, Can We Still Be Friends? Do you know that song?

SPEAKER_05

Why Can't We Be Friends?

SPEAKER_02

No, no, that's war.

SPEAKER_00

It's uh Can't play this game anymore, but can we still be f You know?

SPEAKER_05

Uh vaguely. It sounds very eighties to me. Sounds like something I would like.

SPEAKER_02

He said, uh, I think it's 70s, but he said, uh I said, I can't listen to I can't hear this song without thinking of double dubber, and he was like, I can. He's such a bug. Anyway, tell us about Xbox computes. I was just saying, I love the they do this in this episode and several others, if memory serves, but they do the whole Doogie Hauser thing where she's at her computer and she's going through like her notes and typing her thoughts and all sorts of stuff, and but it's a great way to like explain what's going on. Doogie Hauser does at the end of the episode. Did you watch Doogie Hauser?

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah, heck yeah. It was like a family show for us.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Oh, was it really? Oh, because your dad's a doctor. Yeah. So he just watches everything with doctors, even things. Even little kid doctors. Yeah. Baby doctors. He's a huge doc McStuff is so no, I love I just the episode has that.

SPEAKER_05

That's that's why it when we talk about the software that these enhance, like they were like, like, oh, if we take this fingerprint and stretch it out, then it matches the stretched out fingerprint we have over here.

SPEAKER_02

I I wrote Of course that was I in the that I thought was actually kind of like, yeah, why not try it? Why not do it?

SPEAKER_05

Um I wrote Oh, I wrote enhance the fingerprint. You know how you're always getting so mad when people are enhancing surveillance videos. But then also the bite when in the other episode when they like have his dental records and they somehow are able to like match it perfectly.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you're like too. You're like, You're gonna write that down?

SPEAKER_05

Did you?

SPEAKER_02

I did.

SPEAKER_05

Um and then I hate I hate polygraphs, but I loved the polygraph served the purpose of him of of establishing Mulder's uh insanity.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he's like, he's off the charts here where he says the.

SPEAKER_05

Well, because they're like, Are you over a hundred years old? He's like, Oh, I had her ask that. It must be a control question. He's like, No, no, I had her ask that.

SPEAKER_02

I love oh I but the but the the but when he's going over, he's when he's pointing out the results, he's like, No, look, these two right here. He's like, Mulder, even I had a reaction to that. Even I had a reaction to that question. It's pretty great.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, and then um Oh, I wrote Mulder, I can hear you. Oh, they're like so mean to Mulder, that's right. This guy's a jerk, and I you can't yeah. He's just like looking at him like I'm right here, dude. Um it all felt very early series establishing character to me.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

For sure. What was episode three, so I guess they were doing uh and then I also there there's a part where she's wearing a necklace, which they have to sorry, I'm so sorry, everybody. That was not that was not intentional.

SPEAKER_02

Leslie just fell down the stairs again.

SPEAKER_05

Uh they have to draw attention to the necklace because it's like a pretty pivotal item later, but they do it by having him he's basically groping her. Mulder is touching her necklace. Oh, yeah. And he's like basically touching it's like a long necklace that's hanging down pretty low between, you know, her decoletage, as they say.

SPEAKER_02

Is it what is that word again?

SPEAKER_05

Descolletage.

SPEAKER_02

Well, spell it.

SPEAKER_05

It's like your upper chest. It's French. We could ask Peppy Le Play.

SPEAKER_02

Is it so is that a body part?

SPEAKER_05

It's like your reference to like your in between your neck and the tops of your Whoa. Yeah, your decoletage.

SPEAKER_02

Is it spelled with uh D-U-C-H.

SPEAKER_05

It's D-E-C-Dovny. Just let us just let us know what's going on. I feel like that might be a little vanilla for him.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, a little bit of it. Um He's more of uh Tim Speed. I wonder if they ever had any crazy parties on s on the side having Doug Hutchinson. That's terrible. No, apparently Doug Hutchinson even creeped out David Duchovney because he wanted to get get naked for that for the last even David DuCovney. David Ducovny. He was naked, wasn't he? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

It was his like they were originally He was like, You and you also get naked, David. Yeah, David's like I don't think I need to be naked.

SPEAKER_02

I wouldn't be investigating for a second here. No, no thanks.

SPEAKER_05

That's a new Dickelus.

SPEAKER_02

He's like Jillian Anderson, though, if is there a part for her to get covered in slime?

SPEAKER_05

Wait, we haven't got to that part. Okay, yeah, well I'm skipping where I I did write that I and I kind of mentioned this already, but I really felt like the cinematography is it holds up and doesn't feel dated. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

The storytelling doesn't feel dated.

SPEAKER_02

No, I I I was I I wasn't rolling my eyes too much. Other than the soft, but honestly, I the I could very few I've seen very few movies or shows ever they get software right.

SPEAKER_05

Or even come close to Well, that's what we were talking about in the last week of the news. This actually wasn't that bad in the world. The movie math.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

It's like it they could be saying anything they want. Just fold the paper up and put a pen through it and say this is how it works. No one's gonna know. Bite marks sync up with the do you I'm I'm like just continuing to go. Did you have other things to say?

SPEAKER_02

Cont continuing to go on what?

SPEAKER_05

I just have so many notes.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, keep talking.

SPEAKER_05

Do you have notes?

SPEAKER_02

Uh I do.

SPEAKER_05

But do you want to jump in?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I want to say that I really liked uh detective Frank Briggs.

SPEAKER_05

Which one's that?

SPEAKER_02

He's the guy, it's another trope I really love.

SPEAKER_05

Um wait, is he in the second episode?

SPEAKER_02

He's in both of them. He's the guy who was tracking tombs his whole like his whole career.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, the sheriff. Yeah, the sheriff. He wasn't a detective.

SPEAKER_02

He wasn't? Oh. He was a sheriff.

SPEAKER_05

Well he probably did detective.

SPEAKER_02

But he's got the wheelchair. I love the wheelchair. The old the old expert and the wheelchair is like one of my.

SPEAKER_05

He is in both of them.

SPEAKER_02

But he's a great actor. He seemed like it. I was impressed by him. I thought he'd a good one.

SPEAKER_05

I liked him.

SPEAKER_02

It was like kind of like a little very small part, but he he acted the the snot out of it.

SPEAKER_05

The slightly they believe the bile, you might say.

SPEAKER_02

You know what the bile was?

SPEAKER_05

What?

SPEAKER_02

It was like i uh cake icing. Like clear cake cake icing.

SPEAKER_05

Like royal icing. I bet it was delicious.

SPEAKER_02

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Everybody kept licking Doug Hutchinson.

SPEAKER_05

So you so they know that this guy is probably a hundred years old and and they suspicion that he's hibernating.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05

And they go find where he's been living for the last 100 years, and with no backup or anything, they just start skulking around an abandoned building.

SPEAKER_02

Sculling around, if you will.

SPEAKER_05

Sculling around an abandoned building.

SPEAKER_02

Can I can I stop you right there?

SPEAKER_05

Sure.

SPEAKER_02

What's interesting about that, when they first enter that room with their flashlights, that scene is what they use in the intro.

SPEAKER_05

Oh my globulin. That's amazing. That's kind of amazing. I love that.

SPEAKER_02

What's got globulin from?

SPEAKER_05

Globulin is like a blood.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I'm thinking of Fremulon. Never mind.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know what I could be wrong about globulin, but I think it's something to do with your blood. It's not hemoglobin, but something.

SPEAKER_02

Correction core.

SPEAKER_05

Sure. It's probably nothing. And basically we discover that he hibernates in bile.

SPEAKER_01

Paper mache.

SPEAKER_05

Is disgusting.

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I love that.

SPEAKER_05

He's like, oh, you're making crafts. Because he makes himself a nest out of paper strips and bile.

SPEAKER_02

He just licks licks the paper, puts it on. Yeah, he's got like three of those going on during the two episodes.

SPEAKER_05

So then he figures out that Scully and Mulder are on to him. So he starts stalking her. And here's my I haven't given out a lot of top tips lately.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, please.

SPEAKER_05

But I have one. If you're at home by yourself and bile falls on you from the ceiling, you should leave the house.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah. Come on, go.

SPEAKER_05

Don't go find your gun and try to shoot the source of the bile dripping out of your scene. That's a horror movie. You can't shoot anything in a horror movie with a gun.

SPEAKER_02

It's episode three. She's learning.

SPEAKER_05

She's learning.

SPEAKER_02

Can I also say that all X-Files agents need jujitsu?

SPEAKER_05

Maybe they could get a new belt like our son did.

SPEAKER_02

So there's a uh little um there's a mo every time we watch the fight scene. Every time we pretty much watch any fight scene ever, it's always uh I'm always nitpicking what you know what somebody does when the larger person is on the bottom.

SPEAKER_05

But they got the Hollywood budget. They could hire someone who could teach people how to do anything at all that looks like But you know the truth is the a lot of uh I bet Toms has had a hundred years to learn jujitsu, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

He's got those those freaking fingers.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he'd be he'd be in that separate room tournament.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he'd be I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_05

It's like ages ago. It's like pre-picking Clark Up.

SPEAKER_02

It's pre-taught Roger. Um what else you got on it?

SPEAKER_05

On the first one I wrote, I was sufficiently creeped way the H-E-L-L out by that, and my mom was correct in not letting me watch that show. All right, episode two, they're gonna let him out.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, the the whole necklace thing though, that's where she says, I'm snagged on something. Yeah. She's crawling through. Is that what you're talking about? Why they needed the necklace to check off.

X-Files: Tooms Episode Discussion

SPEAKER_05

Oh, okay, so yeah, that matters in some of the stuff I was gonna say for the second episode. The reason Mulder figures out that she's in danger from him when she shows when he shows up and drips by all from her ceiling, is he goes back to that abandoned building and sees all these trophies from the victims, and one of them was from one a couple of the victims from earlier in the episode, and then he sees her necklace there, the one that he was like, basically fondling. Okay, so remember that he found the serial killer's trophy stash. Just remember that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And he stripped that necklace right off of her dec decal decoletage. Just right off of it.

SPEAKER_05

Nutilarity. Okay. Episode the second one. Episode 23? 20 something? Tombs. Okay, now they're gonna let he's been in the psychiatric hospital, now they're gonna let him out. Hate me.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Um first of all, I would like to know have you ever had anybody as creepy as Tombs? Leslie is a music therapist, she worked in psychiatric facilities with in like maximum security with people who have done some very, very, very heinous things. And uh, have you ever has there ever been anything that extreme? And if not in in any case, a follow-up question is what kind of music therapy would you do with him?

SPEAKER_05

Well, first of all, are you asking me if I ever had a plant a patient that was over a hundred years old that had been hibernating for 30 years cycles and murdering five people?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05

Uh no, I don't think I've ever had anyone that creepy. Everyone's just everyone's just a victim.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And they're just, you know, sad.

SPEAKER_02

Tombs, they don't really go into his uh his origin.

SPEAKER_05

Well he's just a mutation.

SPEAKER_02

He's he's just doing what he's gotta do. Yeah, he's a mutated human.

SPEAKER_05

In case we didn't say that, we didn't say that. Walder was even I probably wouldn't give him any music therapy. I think I would say no thank you.

SPEAKER_02

Wow.

SPEAKER_05

Sometimes you I reserve the right to say that to that man.

SPEAKER_02

Uh you probably have to play a lot of real old stuff.

SPEAKER_05

So they have this hearing Fats Waller.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. Scott Joplin.

SPEAKER_05

So they have this hearing where you know, whatever parole board, hospital parole version of a parole board is gonna like hear all the evidence about letting him out. It's so ridiculous. So they never caught him on anything but the attempted assault on Scully.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Um however, why why Mulder so so Mulder then gets up and is like, well, he's a hundred years old, like he lays out his crazy insane case.

SPEAKER_02

He kind of screwed that up like.

SPEAKER_05

But I don't think he cares. That's just his MO. He just doesn't give a crap.

SPEAKER_02

That's Mulder for you.

SPEAKER_05

But I wanted to be like, Mulder, the trophies?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. What? Anytime I see a scene like that, I'm like, there's so much more you there's so much.

SPEAKER_05

Why wouldn't you say But I know he needed to get out. I know that was the point.

SPEAKER_02

You mean for the sake of the plot? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

But still.

SPEAKER_02

I know, but I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_05

In with these like a super dumpy old couple.

SPEAKER_02

And they say as they're walking down the hall with him, oh my gosh, what are you gonna fit right in with us? Are you gonna some do you do you remember what it was?

SPEAKER_05

Um he's like your room's your room's a little small, but oh, but you'll be able to squeeze it.

SPEAKER_02

Well done. It's funny. Well done.

SPEAKER_01

Good job, old man.

SPEAKER_05

His irises turn green when he's like wanting to hunt and attack. Is that bile?

SPEAKER_01

Oh. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05

Are his irises turning green with bile screen? I wrote.

SPEAKER_02

Hmm. I'd like to think so.

SPEAKER_05

And then I wrote that could have been really funny, but I don't remember what it means. Nondescript animal van van tombs. Oh. What? I remember now. It's not Van Tom's like his name. He has a nondescript animal van.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

It's not nondescript. That was the joke.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. Okay. I'm always.

SPEAKER_05

So he follows this chick home that he wants to get liver out of.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_05

In his animal van. And it parks on her residential street. Yeah, not super conspicuous, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I can we talk about his animal van for a second?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, let's do.

SPEAKER_02

I really, really enjoyed him sucking his fingers after handling the rat. I was pretty I wanted to see him do that after the game. I bet he wrote that out. He's like, can I take my pants off while I do?

SPEAKER_05

Like, no, you're going to college, can't you?

SPEAKER_02

Gotta wait for that one scene.

SPEAKER_05

Have you ever seen an animal what's that job called? Uh sanitation? I don't know. Have you ever seen anyone in any of the cities or schools that you've lived in or gone to that's that's just out picking up random dead animals?

SPEAKER_02

Um there there are people that do that. That's a thing. I mean, we're the animals on the side of the road. There's a lot of dead animals on the road.

SPEAKER_05

Wow.

SPEAKER_02

I would imagine. Let's just go.

SPEAKER_05

I'm just sheltered and nice.

SPEAKER_02

Mike Rowe never covered it in all of your dirty rooms.

SPEAKER_05

I don't know. Maybe he did. I didn't watch everything.

SPEAKER_02

Sure, he did. Did he ever suck on his fingers afterwards?

SPEAKER_05

I bet he did not.

SPEAKER_02

Gosh, that's is that a gift? That's got a few. I just really like that. It tickled me.

SPEAKER_05

And then talk about Big Shoulders. Oh, it's Big Shoulders he was following home, not the wife.

SPEAKER_02

Right. He was following that woman for a moment and then and then Mulder pops in, harasses him a little bit. Yeah, the guy with the shoulder pads, like bright blue raincoat soup jacket kind of deal, very extremely 93.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he had shoulder pads. Another big guy. He was a big guy, yeah. And uh you go home and his wife's basically a DIY plumber.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, she's got okay, so the kid crying kids. Yes. He's sitting there playing working. Return to Zork or something on his computer.

SPEAKER_03

And Oh, he was playing.

SPEAKER_02

No, he's he's he had some sort of black and white spreadsheet up or chart, uh line chart, it doesn't matter. Uh she within I mean, maybe this is maybe this is something that people do in in in in homes today, but like within seconds, she's snaking the drain, snaking the toilet.

SPEAKER_05

Like no plunger, she's just right to it.

SPEAKER_02

But it's just funny, like she's got screaming kids.

SPEAKER_05

That's that's being a mom for you, honey.

SPEAKER_02

And she's just down. I think I might be snaking the I don't know. I don't even know. In this house, you would be snaking the toilet. I don't know where it is. I think it's probably pretty gross. I've been I think Doug Hutchinson has broken our garage and sucking on it.

SPEAKER_05

He like ran his hands over it and licked his fingers.

SPEAKER_02

He's gonna sue us. Do you think he listens?

SPEAKER_05

I hope he's 21.

SPEAKER_02

Is he do you think he's Andy Baseman uh 99?

SPEAKER_05

Frank? Oh, it's Frank Moon.

SPEAKER_02

No, Andy. Frank Frank Moon boots. So um anywho, uh does she does he get No no noulder gets to the house, and then that's when that's when uh that's when Tomes does the whole Dirty Harry. Have you seen Dirty Harry?

SPEAKER_05

No.

SPEAKER_02

So in Dirty Harry, the the killer is under the car. Um no. The killer pays a dude to beat him up to frame.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, okay. I was still back at the house where he gets in the trunk of Muller's car.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_05

I wrote, when the trunk closed, I thought, well, at least I know that the people in the house aren't gonna get hurt.

SPEAKER_02

Shoulder pads is gonna be. And then I wrote lift of work, shoulder pads and other.

SPEAKER_05

And then I wrote, that's what made me think, there's no moment of reprieve in this show.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_05

Like there's no like It just goes. It's just suspense after suspense, and there's not a lot of there's no downtime.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, this this was the uh first, like even like in the office scene with uh Skinner, um, you know, I'm talking about Pelig uh Peliggy, that's the actor's name. He um Smokey Man's in this one. Smoky man's in this one, yeah. Um Bare naked ladies would be very pleased.

SPEAKER_05

They'll be subscribing soon.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, of course. Uh this was Skinner's first episode. I think he was supposed to just be kind of like a plain Jane bureaucrat. Then they made him Yeah, the way he the way he acted and the just his whole setup and he just really uh really hit it off and became a big part of the show. Yeah, smoking man is in this one and he has one line at the very, very end. It was the last line, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_05

I didn't his voice wasn't it didn't do anything for me.

SPEAKER_02

His voice?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it was very underwhelming. I wanted it to be more charactery sounding. You want to be like, oh you shouldn't have been coughing.

SPEAKER_02

Well, of course I do. Of course I do. I don't like the way he smokes.

SPEAKER_05

But is he not very good at it?

SPEAKER_02

I just it's we it's it's like he's uh he smokes like first of all, he's like a pinch smoker. Yeah, it's uh this is fine. This is fine. I mean, I'm a little more fan of he was smoking something different, but he's but he's smoking and he goes like this.

SPEAKER_05

He's just no one can see.

SPEAKER_02

He has like little baby, like oh yeah. There's just little baby little baby smokes. Little baby puffs. And and like, but half the time, you know when you could tell I mean I guess this guy was a smoker. I did a little little dive on his smoking habits. Uh he he he did he used to be a smoker, but he didn't like smoking anymore. So I think he was just taking like little fakey hits. Fakey hits, and it just really bothers me.

SPEAKER_05

I like to see a good if you're gonna smoke, you know, get into it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, smoke. If you if you are the smoking, do not smoke cigarettes, we don't endorse that. No, but if you're gonna do it, do it.

SPEAKER_05

On a show.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I don't mind the pinched grip, but the the little baby for a guy who smokes all the time, you think you'd be taking bigger drags than that. I don't know, just uh whatever.

SPEAKER_05

Anything else about that one before I ask you how if you liked how it ended?

SPEAKER_02

Um I like how going by the book, they're talking about going by the book. Uh oh, I wanted to one I wanted to know what so when they when they bring Scully in and Mulder, there's two couple scenes in the office.

SPEAKER_05

Two couple scenes.

SPEAKER_02

Two couple scenes. Uh first of all, I like the whole going by the book will decrease our rate you know for success. Success, right? It's pretty cool. And uh telling. I wanted to know what Skinner and the smoking man do when people leave their office. Leave the office because they're just like together at the door closed.

SPEAKER_05

And he's standing behind him. It's just like maybe he just like steps behind him and like rubs his shoulder. Skinner's like, I be careful you don't ash in my hair.

SPEAKER_02

He's like, also the smoking man's like, um have you ever thought about shoulder pads? He's like, I know a guy.

SPEAKER_05

I could find out where he got that raincoat. It was in Mulder's report.

SPEAKER_02

Um, rancor shoulder pads. Um oh, I said I want to see the wheelchair guy in a Mac and Me mashup. Who's it? Aliens, I guess. Do you have any idea what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_05

Is that from Jimmy Fallon? I just sit there writing very much. Is that the thing from Jimmy Fallon where he's like shows people their Conan O'Brien though?

SPEAKER_02

It's Conan. Paul Rudd, whenever he came on, Conan O'Brien would show up. This Mac and Me clip saying it was a trailer for a movie that was coming out of his. Yeah. It was the same clip every time. I think I just wanted to talk about that. Um that's why we have a podcast. Oh, I know what I wanted to know.

SPEAKER_05

What?

SPEAKER_02

How did they get so when they dig that dig that old woman's remains up from the concrete?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

How the world did they get that giant concrete slab in the office? It's hanging up on chains, and what is it hanging on? How much would that concrete weigh?

SPEAKER_05

I don't know. You wouldn't know. You've poured a lot more concrete than me.

SPEAKER_02

I've never poured concrete in my life.

SPEAKER_05

Have you ever written your initials impressions?

SPEAKER_02

I picked a lot of it up. When I used to lift with like concrete blocks at my Judy's. Yeah, just a just a you know, concrete block with two holes in it. Like a three dollar concrete block is like 40 pounds.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, so it probably weighed several hundred pounds.

SPEAKER_02

And they got it in an office. I was looking around in the office.

SPEAKER_05

Well, it was like in a forensic.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but there's no big doors in there.

SPEAKER_05

I was looking around.

SPEAKER_02

I was. I was like, how'd they get that freaking? That's the first thing I noticed there's a big chain you would like chain a freaking cruise liner up with.

SPEAKER_05

At least that was accurate.

SPEAKER_02

What was accurate about that?

SPEAKER_05

That they weren't just using little regular chains.

SPEAKER_02

What were they connected to? The ceiling fan.

SPEAKER_05

Uh the floor. It's probably in a basement.

SPEAKER_02

What about the uh what about the handshake between the doctor and uh the stepfather?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. The caretaker. Tombs is caretaker.

SPEAKER_02

Leslie, you're you're like, that's the weak. I was taking notes or doing something. And Leslie's like, that's the weakest handshake I've ever seen. And she's like, I'm like, do I need to see it? You're like, yeah, you shouldn't know why I didn't.

SPEAKER_05

And it was worth weird.

SPEAKER_02

It was, yeah. It was like for the YouTube.

SPEAKER_05

It was like it was like two men like fish flapping. It was not good. I said they should have titled that episode The Handshake. I said that.

SPEAKER_02

I like the uh I like the Oh, they got a little take a vacation. Mulder, you gotta take a vacation. It's it reminded me of the Mel Mel Brooks. We like to watch movies that that say get some rest.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Take a vacation.

SPEAKER_02

That was from uh comedians and coffee and comedians and cars or whatever when they did Mel Brooks. Anyways, did we talk about the uh escalator?

SPEAKER_05

No, we haven't. I was I was just saying, did you like how it ended? And so you can tell us about how it ended.

SPEAKER_02

With the escalator death?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I did like how it ended. First of all, cool. That's pretty cool. It's a good not quite Ricky O cool. Um meat grinder for 15 minutes. But um apparently they were I I don't remember who apparently they were really gonna kill him.

SPEAKER_05

Well, yeah, they found out.

SPEAKER_02

This guy's gonna marry a 16-year-old.

SPEAKER_05

Let's get ahead of that.

SPEAKER_02

Now he was born a night. He was he's a hundred years old. He is 200 years old. It was cool then. I wonder if that's what inspired him.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, probably so yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's in his defense. Sorry. He did play a hundred-year-old man, that was cool to do such things. Um, no, but uh they they were looking at one of the writers, I guess, was looking at a uh somebody fixing an escalator in a mall, and they were under it, and they're like, Oh, that's how we're gonna kill it. That's how we're gonna do it. Yeah. So I like that. I'm a big fan of fancy gory featuring um giant bladed stairs. And as far as how it ended in terms of you know, you didn't get the satisfaction of that the guy from Blade um getting his, getting his, but yeah. But you got uh you got to see that annoying doctor die. I was I'm glad he got it. I hated that guy. Yeah, he was so he sucked. Um the psychologist. Like he almost like hit it. I thought he was almost gonna come on to him.

SPEAKER_05

The psychologist? Yeah. But he was very like pandering and uh uh patronizing, sort of. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's uh anyways. But I do like I like I I like the way the smoking man finished ends up with of course, like do I say you believe there?

SPEAKER_05

He's like, Is that the first smoking man episode? Oh no, because that was like 20 something.

SPEAKER_02

It was yeah, it wasn't the first smoking man episode, but it was it was one of them. I mean he's first season. Yeah. He turns out to be uh well, I don't know if I want to spoil the whole series. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Because I A don't remember, and B, the X-Files is just too good.

SPEAKER_02

It is quite good. We gotta watch some more.

SPEAKER_05

We should watch some more.

SPEAKER_02

Um anything else you want to talk about with the X-Files.

SPEAKER_05

No, I like that. I like that uh endeavor we went on trying to be pursued.

Alanis Morissette & Jagged Little Pill Discussion

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, okay, yeah, I know you don't I I'm not gonna go through my notes, but I I'm sure we talked about uh most things that are that we wanted to. Do we want to move on to our little uh our little Alanis?

SPEAKER_05

Let's do it. Jagged Little Pill.

SPEAKER_02

Jagged Little Pill's album. Lannis More set.

SPEAKER_05

All I really want.

SPEAKER_02

All I really want is Dave Coulier. Is Dave this actually this song um Dave Coulier song, that was uh uh what's the name of that? It wasn't about all uh all I really want wasn't Dave Cooler.

SPEAKER_05

I was just making a Dave Coulier reference. I don't know. I don't know which song actually.

SPEAKER_02

No, this song was about an affair she had with Gilbert Gottfried.

SPEAKER_05

The theater one I can't think of that one.

SPEAKER_02

The theater. Oh. Is that the Dave Coulier song? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

What's that called?

SPEAKER_02

It's you're the huge Zelantis fan.

SPEAKER_05

I Well, you know, I don't remember stuff. It's called uh The Names of Things.

SPEAKER_02

Um I'll find it, I'll tell you. Yeah, look it up. Um you don't remember the names of things. You're like all I did, I used to listen to this album quite a bit.

SPEAKER_05

I do, I did.

SPEAKER_02

But not the biggest song. You ought to know, not the greatest song.

SPEAKER_05

Is it you ought to know?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you ought to know. Yeah, that was and I apparently it hasn't truly been confirmed that it was about Dave Coulier, but it was uh hasn't been confirmed.

SPEAKER_05

Speculation.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, speculation. Uh yeah, you ought to know. And what what do you want to say? Would you you why'd you pick this song?

SPEAKER_05

Oh well, okay, so yes, I did listen to that album. It was uh I think my eighth, eighth grade year was when I was purchased it.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Just take you back a little bit.

SPEAKER_02

It came out in ninety-six.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so my ninth grade year, I guess. Right?

SPEAKER_02

No. Eighth grade. Well, ninety-six, yeah, yeah. No, I was I was in ninth grade in ninety six.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so eighth grade, I thought it was eighth grade.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_05

So I had a CD player in the bathroom and I would play it while I was in the shower and while I was getting ready in the morning and everything. At 6 30 in the morning, no one ever told me not to. My parents were nice.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna say, you know, I had my parents had no problem with me watching X-Files.

SPEAKER_05

Uh-huh. They wouldn't love to let you listen to the code.

SPEAKER_02

I would have never been able to listen to Jaggy Little Pill. There's just no way.

SPEAKER_03

We were all just getting ready to uh really want.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, you um ripping people's livers off. That's because I I mean honestly, I I I've watched this episode.

SPEAKER_05

As a child.

SPEAKER_02

As a child, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Um But I liked to, in my like literally picture perfect childhood, I like to imagine that I could relate to all of these like tortured souls.

SPEAKER_02

As far as all the songs or the lyrics in this song. In this song or the whole album.

SPEAKER_05

The whole entire album. It was one of those other albums like we were talking about with the Tom Petty, where I had every key change I could sing the next note of the next song because I just listened to it, you know. Just from start to finish over and over and over again.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, she like definitely came swinging with this album. Like I and I haven't I'm not gonna talk about Les as a as a fan necessarily. I really respect the heck out of it.

SPEAKER_05

One of my least favorite songs on there.

SPEAKER_02

Just because of the the uh misunderstanding of what irony is?

SPEAKER_05

Well, sure. I didn't know that really until I think Uncle Dan pointed it out.

SPEAKER_02

She got a lot of heat for that, actually.

SPEAKER_05

But um As she should. Yeah, I hope she's not listening to this. She's I hope she's not a subscriber. No, I thought it was the most boring of all of the songs. I love like like all I really want is great because it's just all over the place.

SPEAKER_02

I actually I I did I do I do kind of like that. So I've listened, I've listened to the song about I I took your advice, and you know, when you gotta when you gotta learn a song to play it, listen to it until you can't stand anymore. I listened to it until I liked it. Kind of liked it. I actually do like um I just honestly what it is for me is I just don't like her voice. It's just especially after hearing the way she sang. So I like this song better, but her old like dance music that she did like the video I sent you with uh Matt LeBlanc was in it.

SPEAKER_05

I was like, who is that?

SPEAKER_02

Joey.

SPEAKER_05

Joey, so skinny. It was so skinny I couldn't hardly tell what it was him.

SPEAKER_02

So, but she I mean, she was like what uh I think she was like 19 in that video. So, um, but anyways, she sings totally differently in that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like she sings like a more she's got a nice voice. She's got a strong voice.

SPEAKER_05

She's a really strong voice, she has a lot of control over her voice, too.

SPEAKER_02

I just don't, you know.

SPEAKER_05

It's just not for you.

SPEAKER_02

It's like um kind of a yodeling sort of uh uh I wrote down some comparison.

SPEAKER_05

I think I liked it so much, not just because I thought I like to imagine that I had a horrible life at at 13 years old living in my wonderful home.

SPEAKER_02

Your dad sleeping in bed. Can't even sleep in my own bed. People breaking in. Doug screeping to my window. Might be Alex Honnold, I don't know. Poor dog. We've really dragged him through the mud on this one.

All I Really Want: Song Craft & Glenn Ballard

SPEAKER_05

Um I don't feel bad about it. We've dragged him through the pile.

SPEAKER_02

Feels so bad. Uh she wrote this uh whole album with uh uh Glenn Ballard. Do you know the name about Glenn Ballard?

SPEAKER_05

Does he have that? Did he write that big song?

SPEAKER_02

Among that song and uh All I Really Want. He also wrote Among He wrote a lot for Wilson Phillips. He wrote Main in the Mirror. Dude. Yeah, he wrote uh some of Gimme the Night with Quincy Jones, George Benson.

SPEAKER_05

This man is all over the place.

SPEAKER_02

He wrote he had uh writing credits with Alan Silvestri on the Back to the Future score.

SPEAKER_05

What?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Is this man still alive?

SPEAKER_02

I think he is. I think he is.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he can have a big section at our concert.

SPEAKER_02

He played the guitar on it. He was the one doing the is a nice, it's a fan, it's a it's a very uh earworm riff. It's a it's a nice riff. It's I I like I like the way the song opens up. It almost has like a sweet emotion.

SPEAKER_05

Too bad we didn't have a harmonica player.

SPEAKER_02

She played the harmonica on it, did you know that?

SPEAKER_05

Yes. I I sorry, I know we talk about Uncle Dan all the time, but I remember him being like, all she's doing is breathing in and out of that thing.

SPEAKER_07

Because he actually plays the harmonica.

SPEAKER_05

No, and he actually has he's allowed to say it because he's a harmonic man. He's a harmonic. He's a harmonica man.

SPEAKER_02

He's a harmonicist.

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Harmonica.

SPEAKER_02

But they got together and wrote, they just banged this freaking. I've always heard stories about how they how she wrote this album very quickly. Apparently they they were just like to borrow lyrics from the song, just kindred spirits. And he said he was like basically acting as a as a channel for her to just black like they they wrote and recorded a song a day at his at his like home studio.

SPEAKER_05

Dang.

SPEAKER_02

And just rip through it.

SPEAKER_05

And do you think you remember your own songs, or do you think you have to like relearn them? Like if you're doing stuff that fast, I'd be like, I need to listen to that again before I perform it.

SPEAKER_02

So I and I'm I'm I'm just I know what happens. A lot of people, this isn't of course not the case across the board, especially even with her, really. But this was like one of the first albums were that well, the first album that she came out and just really did her own thing. So probably she probably just had this bloated I gotta say all this stuff, and I want it to come out like this, so she was ready to go, and Glenn was ready to channel that into what he does. What a team. Honestly, though, what a team. Like they sold like 50 million albums.

SPEAKER_05

Were they like a married news team?

SPEAKER_02

They were very similar, a lot very similar to us.

SPEAKER_05

How old is she? She's about ten years older than us, isn't she? She was born in the 70s, so it's ish.

SPEAKER_02

She was uh old enough to be on uh you can't do that on television.

SPEAKER_05

That was great.

SPEAKER_02

Had you you hadn't seen that show?

SPEAKER_05

I've heard of it, but I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_02

We didn't really watch uh some good clips. That show was that was a show I was not allowed to watch.

SPEAKER_05

I bet.

SPEAKER_02

Um great show though, I think. Probably holds up. Um what uh now this song is in this song is mixolydian, right?

SPEAKER_05

It has a flat seven, yes it does.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Okay. I really there's a lot I wanted to uh when playing this song. So uh first of all, I was really glad that you just sang it like you.

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah, I wasn't gonna try to sing it like her.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't figure you would.

SPEAKER_05

But I did do.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you sing you you brought that You can't not sing it Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

The way because she puts all of it But you weren't going like that? Oh, I wouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I can't I don't I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that. She puts all the emphasis on the wrong syllables.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right, right. No, but uh was this song hard to sing?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's not an easy song.

SPEAKER_02

You gotta get really high up.

SPEAKER_05

Like there's a it's not super high because it's only in B flat, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay. Well this is why I'm asking you. Yes.

SPEAKER_05

It is much higher than a lot of the stuff we've done. I'd have to figure it is a full it's uh it's probably a t I would say it's a ten or eleven note octave or ten or eleven note range, I mean.

SPEAKER_02

So you oughta know.

SPEAKER_05

Mm-hmm. And I do.

SPEAKER_02

Hmm. I like playing it on the guitar. I thought once I got it once I got the feel of the song down, uh I like that riff. It's it's fun. I kind of slid into it, played it that way. There's several ways to do it.

SPEAKER_05

Um It's kind of grungy, kind of dirty.

SPEAKER_02

I decided to play more because he's doing I don't have my guitar with me. I take it upstairs. Oh well. It's probably better. Um It is. But he's doing a lot of like single note stuff up on the kind of higher up on the fretboard uh during parts of it. I decided to kind of keep like a keep it moving. Keep it moving and keep a rhythm going. Right.

SPEAKER_05

So to sacrifice my nail pops.

SPEAKER_02

That's one thing I do really uh love about what we what we're doing, doing all these covers, is figuring out how to try to fill the space of like three instruments with each other. With one, you know, with with our uh serviceable skill set, but um still, you know, we're not professional musicians. Well I'm not.

SPEAKER_05

Um I'm not really either.

SPEAKER_02

But uh no, it's uh I like the I like playing in Mixolydian. I like the like the way it started. I mean, it's got a lot of uh it's got a lot of grit to it. It's like pretty grungy, it's kinda I like the words. The words are great. It she's all she like attacks this song. Like she's just all over the freaking place. Yeah. I mean, there's a whole album pretty much like that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And all of the songs, while they have a lot in common, they all have a lot of a lot going on that stands alone. I don't know. It's a great album.

All I Really Want: Covers Rundown

SPEAKER_02

Did you watch any covers of it?

SPEAKER_05

No. Oh, well, the one you sent me?

SPEAKER_02

By uh Nick Ryan.

SPEAKER_05

Is that the one you sent me?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Nick Ryan uh said is a guy who looks like six dudes that I've worked retail with. And fixed computers with a fine job. He did a fine job.

SPEAKER_05

I would have liked to have not seen him or his music video.

SPEAKER_02

Oh.

SPEAKER_05

Not because there was anything wrong with the way he looked, but that it was just gonna be like you're just walking around smiling at like a playground.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, it was kind of awkward. Yeah, crazy. Little Doug Hutchinson.

SPEAKER_05

What do you like? This song is like angsty, and you're like, ooh, smiling with your hat on.

SPEAKER_02

Totally. Totally. Uh Valentina Sounds was another one I listened to.

SPEAKER_05

Was that right?

SPEAKER_02

Uh it was like a live recording. Uh she talked about pretty much what you said, like there were she listened to this.

SPEAKER_05

It's a formative album.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was pretty good. They're they're a band. It was the recording wasn't great just because it was like a live recording. But uh I listened to a guy named Gary B. Lucas, uh, decent acoustic player, decent voice. His timing dragged a little bit, but it sounded nice. It's fine. It's fine. Um, The Singing Angels was pretty good. It was mainly instrumental. But it was like it was basically like, do you want to hear what this song sounds like without Alanis Morissette? Well, or Alanis. But but like the the singing they did have, they just had the chorus, and it was like uh like a I don't know, choral arrangement. Is that what am I saying that right?

SPEAKER_05

Well, there's like like a choir singing a harmony. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

It's like probably like four women singing together.

SPEAKER_05

Were they in harmonies?

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I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

They weren't singing much, it was mainly instrumental. Okay. Um Darren Costello featuring Lena Love. Sounds like she might have done a little work with uh Dirty Harry or Debbie Harry in the maybe back in the Playboy Bunny days. But um I said You're just saying that because of her name.

SPEAKER_05

You don't know that.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, no, she's got a she's got she's got a name. Uh she's not a bad singer. Uh and this band wasn't bad either. They uh they're gonna probably get my nobody award. Nobody award is for the uh actually Aldi's were nobodies.

SPEAKER_04

Wow.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I couldn't find like a established mainstream person doing this. Nobody award, uh, please don't take offense, Nick Ryan or Darren Costello or Elena Love. Um this is for people under 50,000 subscribers.

SPEAKER_05

Or so we're just constantly winning nobody awards every week.

SPEAKER_02

We used yeah, we can we give it to ourselves?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we have 27 subscribers, we fit the bill.

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But do we are we can we can we beat Elena Love?

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I can.

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You you can. Their guitar player beat me. His name is Matt Hornbeck, and he was doing some cool stuff. He was playing a slide on this, it was pretty neat. Um, you don't you're looking at the time?

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I am okay. That's what I do. I that's what I do. That's what I'm here for.

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Do you want to move on to our categories?

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I do.

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Do you know that she uh let me just say this she apparently came in to to the studio when she was meeting with with with um Glenn Ballard with her sweater on backwards inside out. So we decided to put that in there. Yeah, that's what I mean, that's what Wikipedia said. Um And do you know what the Estella lyric was about?

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No, I I went to look that up and I did not.

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From Great Expectations. You ever read that?

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I have not. Wait, yes, I have.

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Estella Havisham? You probably would have read it in high school or something. I think I read it.

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Yes, I think I've read that.

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Yeah, she was uh like raised not to give men anything. But they've like fall all over because she's beautiful and that whole thing. Um oh, yeah. Voice compared her voice is often compared to Dolores O'Rordan from the cranberries. I don't know if I'm saying her name right. Who I also think. But again, I respect them. I just don't I can't.

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Alright.

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I like Lanus Morriset more than I ever have. How's that sound?

Liner Notes: B-Sides, Dream Covers & Soundtrack Picks

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I take I'll take it.

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Okay. Um so what B-side first? B side, yeah.

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I really struggled with this.

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Did you?

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I don't really like my answer. You say yours first.

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I'll take it on a little journey. First, you want to talk about the actual B-sides?

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Sure.

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Um, hand in my pocket and ironic live versions. Um So there's for some reason I had good Led Zeppelin's good times, bad times in my head. Um I had Take the Power Back uh from Rage Against the Machine. That's sweet emotion, Meryl Smith, because kind of opens like that. I decided to go with another legend.

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Who?

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Chicago native. Not Curtis Mayfield. Guy goes by the name of Wesley Willis.

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Because he had his own song about her. That's the song you're using.

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What's it called? Alanis Morrison. Ah. Um He said, You are my sweet woman to the end. You are my honey lover to the max.

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Something for years to come.

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You're my sweet. You are my sweetheart for years to come. You are so lovable to me in the long run.

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I know you guys can't see it close up of Rob's face, but his eyes have disappeared.

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She could really she could really whoop she could really whoop Saddam Hussein's ass. Do you think she was instrumental in helping him write those lyrics? 2003 capture of uh Saddam.

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Oh, probably.

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Like we need Alanis Morris that Wesley Willis said that she could do it.

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The United States said, what Canadian can we get on the case of Saddam Hussein?

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I love, I love, you know I love Wesley Willis.

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You know I love Wesley Will.

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I Wesley Willis has got more of my money than most of the music I listen to. I used to have several albums. I I'm not just exploiting a sick man. I genuinely love Wesley Willis. Yeah. He's definitely coming to our concert.

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Oh. Sure thing.

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He the the girl looked a little bit like Alanis Morrison in the video.

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Do you remember watching the video?

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I do remember watching the video. I remember.

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You didn't like it. You don't like it nearly as much as I do. I don't think.

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That's weird. Did you think that I would like it more than you? I bet you did. Uh well, I just I just I don't even like mine at all. I don't even want to say it. I'm embarrassed.

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What the heck is it?

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I've just said it's Wesley World.

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Be My Girl by Jet.

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Um The Guitar.

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I was going for the some guitar.

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What's wrong with that?

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I don't know. I feel like I've done way better on other ones.

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It's fine. Everybody has a I mean it's a good song.

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But I like my cover.

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Right?

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Well, that's a little bit of a like we drifted into some doors territory.

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Yeah, it sounded like that. But but uh it sounded like break on through. But no, it's uh eh, whatever.

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Um Are you gonna be my girl? Yeah, isn't it my girl? Yeah.

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Okay, that's fine. Yeah. Honey, you're it's okay.

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Thank you.

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You can have a couple of mine if you want.

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Okay, great. I'll take uh I don't want any of yours. Oh Wesley Willis.

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No, absolutely not. You can take Sucker Chicheta's um Who's your cover?

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Hurry up, it's 930.

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Okay, okay, okay, you're right. You're right. Is it really 9 30? Yes, I cover is uh Frank and Moon Zappa. You know the Valley Girl song? Do you know that? No. Well, first of all, I'd just like to hear Frank Zappa cover the song.

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Okay.

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And Moon Zappa. It's something about the way she is talking sometimes. I uh like Frank the Valley Girl is is like Moon Zappa talking about Valley Girls like gag me with a spoon kind of stuff. But Frank Zappa plays the music and it's well he sings a lot.

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He plays them.

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He plays them. It'd be a lot cooler if you'd heard the song, but it's okay.

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Okay.

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Well, I should I send you my covers ahead of time so you know the reference and vice versa.

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I don't care. I don't have to I literally don't think I have time in my life to add any more assignments. You could send them to me. I make zero promises about listening to them. Uh I want to hear Paramore do it.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think that would be good.

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That'd be cool.

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Uh soundtrack.

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Um what's yours?

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Legally blonde.

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Huh. I'd be almost surprised if this wasn't in legally blonde.

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Oh, maybe it is.

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No, it wasn't. I checked.

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I there's no You checked Legally Blonde?

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I checked to see what what this has been featured in.

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Nothing.

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No. No, it's it's on a couple of like it was like an episode of something. I don't I don't know.

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I think it would be super hilarious juxtaposition to the legally blonde pink. You know. Then she says, all I really want is some justice.

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Oh, oh. See? That's that's good. Thank you. I thought this would be great for uh Elaine from Seinfeld. I feel like she's like all over the place with like boyfriends and she's totally follows follows somebody and then hates them and drops. Yeah. So yeah, I'm going with Elaine.

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Alright.

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Huh. What do you think about that?

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I like it. I like it. It's been real.

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Guys, yeah, this is uh is this the first episode we've had to split in two on purpose?

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It's the first one that we didn't on that we yes.

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Hmm. It's a big big one.

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Two episodes ago was the one where we f we filmed it in slow motion. That was the first one we did in slow motion.

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No one's ever gonna listen to that one on YouTube. So this is like the thumbnail is camera died.

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Yeah. Sorry.

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Camera didn't actually die.

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We killed it. We killed it by trying to film two hours worth on slow motion.

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Well, guys, thanks so much for listening. Uh check us out on subscribe to us on YouTube and like us and listen to us on your favorite podcast.

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I like Apple. You like Spotify?

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Actually, you did can you listen to it on our website?

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Yeah.

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I don't know how to get there, though. We'll figure that out for a while.

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I'll put a link to it.

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Okay.

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I love buzz sprouts.

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You do. Um broccoli buzz sprouts. And what'd you say? I think they're fighting. Yeah. It's the Gluga Raffinin. Um and uh email us at audience won't like it. Not the audience won't like it. No, no, no, no, no. Audience won't like it at gmail.com.

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Yeah, I said that.

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Oh, sorry. I didn't I was just waiting to to say what I wanted to say, which is good night.

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Good night. Thank you.