The Audience Won't Like It
Married hosts Rob and Leslie Shoecraft invite you into their closet (literally) for a podcast that’s equal parts nostalgia trip, music nerd-out, and absurd banter. Born from a joke about how the audience probably won’t like it, the show leans into that spirit—riffing on everything from Star Trek episodes and Kitty Wells deep cuts, to feet, crockpots, and cover songs that live on YouTube thanks to copyright.
Each week, the conversation drifts like two people killing time in line for a concert—unexpected, hilarious, and sometimes strangely profound. Future episodes explore growing up in the 80s and 90s, The Dollhouse Murders, “5 of 5” and borrowed chords in music theory, bodybuilding meal prep, Wu-Tang Clan, Gordon Lightfoot, Alan Thicke, Herb Alpert, and whatever other rabbit holes pop up along the way.
If you like side tangents, forgotten pop culture, and covers of songs your mom might love, you might just find that you do like it after all.
The Audience Won't Like It
Cannibal the Musical, David the Gnome & Diff'rent Strokes Theme Songs | Ep 25
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We bounce from basement banter to dark books, cult musicals, and classic TV theme songs, then pull it all together with a mashup performance. We argue about what makes parody work, why nostalgia hits so hard, and how over-explaining becomes both a flaw and a feature.
• debut of a new theme song and the rules of “kissing a recently passed loved one”
• the show format as simulated waiting-in-line small talk plus a concert ending
• moving Corrections Corner to Instagram to keep the main feed tighter
• comments corner, shout-outs, and a birthday song for Uncle Dan
• why Rob over-explains everything, including the Andre the Giant “weighed a ton” origin story
• Kindle Unlimited realities, bad editing, and a rare romance recommendation that is actually well done
• Carrion Comfort by Dan Simmons, brutal content, villain craft, and “how does an author live in that headspace”
• Cannibal! The Musical background, influences, best jokes, and a full plot walk-through
• why classic TV theme songs used to tell the whole story
• David The Gnome origins, lyric differences, and an unexpectedly devastating series finale
• Different Strokes premise, Alan Thicke songwriting credits, cover picks, and soundtrack talk
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Theme Song Chaos And Cold Open
SPEAKER_06On this episode of The Audience Won't Like It.
SPEAKER_02Very good.
SPEAKER_06I want to make two-thirds of the song about kissing a a dead recently. Recently past deceased. And I really loved it. It's so terrible. Like it's so brutal and offensive. And there's just tons of indiscriminate killing.
SPEAKER_05And there's I'm gonna oh, he's like, I'm gonna eat this guy in front of you. And he's like, he's serious.
SPEAKER_03He like puts his mouth on his neck like he's gonna do it.
SPEAKER_06Uh Mr. Drummond is a wealthy businessman.
SPEAKER_02Uh huh. Like with Daddy Warbox?
SPEAKER_06Kinda. He's like a president of something.
SPEAKER_02He's like, give me a child for Christmas. Buddy, thought you loved everyone.
SPEAKER_06Surgery where we both honestly thought he might go up in his butt.
SPEAKER_00He took all his clothes off. He took his clothes off. For no reason.
SPEAKER_05And we're putting this on. I'm excited about it.
SPEAKER_02Whoa whoa.
SPEAKER_06Oh hey.
SPEAKER_02Good morning.
SPEAKER_06Okay. Will this hoodie get in my way of our newly crafted theme song? Oh my gosh. Inspired by the world of David the No.
SPEAKER_02You were gonna find him.
SPEAKER_06All right, you ready?
SPEAKER_02I'm ready.
SPEAKER_05Two married friends. Oh dwelling in a basement room. Surrounded by blankets and microphones. Oh they got in a car crash, she died in his arms. He kissed her lips cause she was still warm. The Audience won't like it. The Audience won't like it. Two married friends are kissing, and only one of them is alive. The Audience won't like it at all. Lena the Lost.
SPEAKER_02I love it!
SPEAKER_06Do you think we could have that be our official theme song, or do you think Harvey Weinstein will sue us?
SPEAKER_02Or what's Ingrid Michelson's dad's name? Harvey Weinstein?
SPEAKER_06Ingrid Michelson's dad's name is uh Mr. Mr. I think it's uh Mr. Cunningham.
SPEAKER_02Well, he might sue us because you played that entire thing.
SPEAKER_06Tom Bosley.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, David the Gnome.
SPEAKER_06Well, I I wanted to play it because it uh it it features it features the uh well first of all, I just wanted to add that second verse.
SPEAKER_02I know that was very good.
SPEAKER_06I wanted to make two-thirds of the song about kissing a a dead body.
SPEAKER_02Recently.
SPEAKER_06A recently passed loved one.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. It's okay if it's a loved one, you can't just walk up to a random body. No warm or not and kiss it. But if you love that person Very much.
SPEAKER_02When two people who love each other.
SPEAKER_06Twenty minutes, do all the kissing you want. But keep it, you know, meaningful.
SPEAKER_02Like the keep the connection alive.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that's what it is. Well put. Yeah, you you have a way of with brevity that I don't.
What The Show Is Supposed To Be
SPEAKER_02That's true. Welcome to the audience won't like it.
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna probably be cycling this on and off.
SPEAKER_02I know. I thought I could get away with short sleeves down here, but I cannot. Had to put on my jacket.
SPEAKER_06I'm just gonna cover uh I'm just gonna wear my That is paint, everybody.
SPEAKER_02On Rob's shirt today.
SPEAKER_06It's so um anyway.
SPEAKER_02Welcome to The Audience Won't Like It. I'm Leslie Shoecroft.
SPEAKER_06Hi, my name's Rob Shoecraft. We're married.
SPEAKER_02We are we're the only married friends.
SPEAKER_06Two married friends.
SPEAKER_02We're the only two married friends in this basement.
SPEAKER_06We sure are. We sure are. And we uh this is a podcast where we'd like to uh simulate a line waiting experience.
SPEAKER_02Uh that's one of everyone's favorite activities, waiting in line.
SPEAKER_06And it features small talk about various topics.
SPEAKER_02Yes, de various others.
SPEAKER_06De various others. We're we're shortening. Oh, by the way, and then we have a uh then we have a concert at the end. We do. Um this this week we'll be we'll be seeing Alan Thick perform with uh Javier something. I wrote it down. I'll write it. No, but when he dies, he can come. Is Alan Thick dead? He is. Oh he died, I think, in maybe 2016.
SPEAKER_02I don't think Robin can come. He's too um too controversial.
SPEAKER_06Is he?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Is do you you want to go on?
SPEAKER_02No, because I don't have any other information.
SPEAKER_06Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02That's it.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_02Revity.
SPEAKER_06Alan Thick wrote uh different strokes theme song, which we'll be performing. Uh you'll have to check that out on our YouTube channel. And uh I'll put a link to it in the description if you are already watching on YouTube. Yeah, you can find it on our channel.
SPEAKER_02I have a cold. I promise to do as little sniffing in the microphone as possible.
SPEAKER_06Hmm. Promises, promises.
SPEAKER_02I know.
SPEAKER_05Promises, promises.
SPEAKER_02So anyway, yeah, not just Alan Thick, though.
SPEAKER_06Um not just Alan Thick?
SPEAKER_02He doesn't sing David the No.
SPEAKER_06No, no, no. That's why I said Javier or something, and you said Javier Pardon, and I said no. I thought I don't remember the connection.
SPEAKER_02I thought he helped Alan Thick write different strokes.
SPEAKER_06You thought Javier? Oh, I see. No, that was Al Al Burton, I believe. And then Lori Alan Thick's wife saying on this. Lori Laughlin. Lori Laughlin, yeah. Actually, this Lori was in uh not quite Lori Laughlin status, but she's hot. She's alright. I think she was I want to say she was maybe like Miss America at some point, something like that. Some pageant lady. Yeah. You know uh Alan Thick did a lot of work with uh Crystal Light, I think.
SPEAKER_02Didn't he like go out into a isn't he in like a body of water for a Crystal Light commercial?
SPEAKER_06Oh, was he?
SPEAKER_02I think so.
SPEAKER_06Um we'll have to find out.
SPEAKER_02I don't recall that.
SPEAKER_06What I was referring to was the uh was the National Aerobics Championship that Crystal Light used to put on, and he was like the MC for it.
SPEAKER_02Oh I'm going straight off from the brain there's a commercial with Alan Thick in the water.
SPEAKER_06Oh, you might be thinking of uh Cinco's Naple?
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_06Cinco uh Cinco Toys or and from Tim and Eric's also sure.
SPEAKER_02Was he in a Tim and Eric commercial?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, he he was uh he was selling Was he in a body of water? No. But he was selling the Naple.
SPEAKER_02Ah.
SPEAKER_06Which is c it was an apple cover, and it's it's meant so you could just take 15 minute naps immediately and wake up immediately.
SPEAKER_02Eat the apple?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, because it's covered in a sleep gel.
SPEAKER_02I don't remember that.
SPEAKER_06They've inserted like a uh a wake up something that makes gives you stomach distress, makes you want to have diarrhea.
SPEAKER_02So you wake up.
SPEAKER_06So you wake up, so you fall so he falls asleep and he wakes up with has to have diarrhea, and he drags himself off and he's making like Tim and Eric squishy noises and stuff. Yeah. It's also kind of uh brings in uh it's kind of a cross promotion with D-Pants as well. Yeah. They recommended.
SPEAKER_02So you could sleep in your D-pants when you eat that nap.
SPEAKER_06Exactly. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02I'm glad we were able to bring that up. So yeah, so so stay tuned if you like TV theme songs. There aren't a lot these days that have words. I mean, are there any TV theme songs from today's world that have words?
SPEAKER_06There aren't many. I mean, you kind of put me on the spot there. I'm sure there are, of course, but I'm not sure there are. I miss the days when I was gonna bring this up later, but but where you have like the full synopsis, like the full expose of everything you need to know going into the show happens in the theme. Like I was watching Perfect Strangers because we were oh yeah, we talked about that. By the way, I said I would sing it. It's Stand in Tall on the Wings of my dreams.
SPEAKER_05Wow, I don't remember.
SPEAKER_06And I think it was a harmonica. I listen, I said I wanted to look at the uh opening instrument. It's like a harmonica or something from from perfect version of one. Yeah. But they have like in when you watch the intro, like it's like Larry leaving his job and Balkie leaving his country, and they're like, you could see you know they're meeting in in the city, and it explains the words explain like what they're going after. Different strokes do the same thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, or like in Full House when they're like going a picnic and they ride around San Francisco in a convertible, and like there's like little sister antics, little sister antics and Michelle on the back.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, kind of bopping. Yeah, depending it depends on the on the intros. But anyways, yeah, we don't have that anymore. It's a freaking shame. It's a lost art.
SPEAKER_02You're bleeding.
SPEAKER_06Travesty. Am I?
SPEAKER_02What happened to you? Ladybugs?
SPEAKER_06Ladybugs?
SPEAKER_02Man, ladybugs. Dude. They deserve their own corner.
SPEAKER_06We have thousands of ladybugs in our house.
SPEAKER_02We do. Uh they deserve a corner of death.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, they do. The worst, the corner of the the worst kind of gnome.
SPEAKER_02Yes, gnome eradication.
SPEAKER_06I don't think gnome. I don't know if gnomes have a hell. We'll talk about the gnomes. When we get there. Hey, um, but so as you can see, the show features a little bit of small talk. Uh we used to have, I say used to, up until, well, we'll see how.
SPEAKER_02Five days ago.
SPEAKER_06About 40. I I I clocked it. We had about 37 minutes of corrections corner.
SPEAKER_02Where I talk about that was before we even got to consumption corner.
SPEAKER_06It was about they kind of bleed in a little bit. But basically 37 minutes of meta information on the previous episode.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Uh that was what the last one clocked at, and I think it's been getting progressively more. This was becoming a show about corrections corner.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, just it was like we would have half a show would be stuff that we said wrong, so that the next show could be halfway about the fixing all that stuff.
SPEAKER_06Mm-hmm. And then I would just completely let Leslie comes in strong. That's her. Leslie is she's my wife. I'm Rob. Rob Shoecraft.
SPEAKER_02We already introduced ourselves.
SPEAKER_06We're married. Um, and she she she would just get completely fried, and then uh it just kind of I came on strong with being fried. No, you you by the end of the show, by the time we talk about the song, which is kind of like almost the the crown jewel.
SPEAKER_01Of course.
SPEAKER_06Well, it's not the main topic, that's the crown jewel, but this is like an earring, like a really nice crown earring. Yeah. It's a crown earring. This is like a Mr. T earring. It's like one.
SPEAKER_02Do you does Mr. P P Mr. T pity the fool?
SPEAKER_06He does. Okay. Yeah. Mr. P does too.
SPEAKER_02He titties the fool, sorry.
SPEAKER_06Easy there. It's a family show, by the way. We very rarely say pity or words of rhyme with it.
SPEAKER_02Sorry with T. Mr. T's.
SPEAKER_06Okay, so uh anyway.
SPEAKER_02I have nothing to do with why it's 40 minutes long.
SPEAKER_06I think I was making a making a point.
SPEAKER_02You said I got fried.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. But uh we we want to keep we want to keep this fresh. We want to keep it going. And yeah, now Dennis, our friend, who's listening.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Big Den.
SPEAKER_06Uh Big Den, Big Denny.
SPEAKER_02I've never called him Big Den before, but I think it's new. I like it. I think I may have called him Little Denny before.
SPEAKER_06I could see that for sure. Yeah. Probably more than once. Yeah. Yeah, just because little things.
SPEAKER_02Is he this?
SPEAKER_06He is. Yes. Okay. Dentist. Uh Dennis is this. Okay. So Dennis listened. Thank you, Dennis, for listening. Uh he said he listened for six hours.
SPEAKER_02So what, like one and a half podcasts? One and a half episodes.
SPEAKER_06He listened to six hours worth of corrections corner. So he loved it. Don't let anything happen to him.
SPEAKER_02Don't change a thing.
SPEAKER_06He did say make it at least an hour. He's like, if you're gonna cut it, cut it at least.
SPEAKER_02I'm fine with that. We were sweeping up on two hours. Yeah, we were.
SPEAKER_06We pretty much hit two hours. Yeah. So make it at least an hour because he liked when he he he doesn't want to start a podcast. I'm with I understand. Yeah. I feel the same way. I'm listening to a three and a half hour podcast on open clawed right now. But we won't talk about it. It's AI stuff.
SPEAKER_02I understand what Claude is.
SPEAKER_06It's a different Claude. It's a whole thing. Oh. Clawed like a lobster.
SPEAKER_02C-L-A-W-E-D. Oh.
Corrections Corner Goes To Instagram
SPEAKER_06Oh, or W D. I can't remember. Anyways. Um we would be on Corrections Corner, but now Corrections Corner is moving to Instagram.
SPEAKER_02It is.
SPEAKER_06So check it out on Instagram. So all the stuff, like the 15 to 50 points that we make that are random.
SPEAKER_02By we rob mostly means Rob. I'm usually just like, uh-huh.
SPEAKER_06I just love rabbit holes. I I live in them and I I I like them because I'm always waiting for a little gnome to come down. Yeah. I'm just trying to work that in. Really kind of build up.
SPEAKER_02Perform some surgery.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_06PIDA PETA approved surgery.
SPEAKER_02Some self-righteous surgery.
SPEAKER_06So yeah, we're gonna put the we're gonna put the the corrections corner on Instagram so you can read it if you don't want to listen to it all. And then so, anyways, Dennis said the one one point he said he he said when we talk about songs, yeah. I saw that to try to try to give the lyrics or a melody or something so the listener at home isn't freaking out trying to think of what the song is. That was a good tip. So maybe like three seconds worth just so we don't get sued by Mr.
SPEAKER_02Bosley.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, by Mr.
SPEAKER_02Bosley Bosley.
SPEAKER_00Tom Bosley.
SPEAKER_06Oh man. Um I also got we got a comment from uh it's where we we talk about comments, comments corner.
SPEAKER_02Can you always when you because this is a this is a corner where Rob shares the comments with me, but can you give me a um like a trigger warning, like if it's gonna be mean and hurtful, just let me know so I can't. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I can in the future. Okay.
SPEAKER_02You're gonna share the mean and hurtful things people have said about us.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, please don't be mean to Leslie. Uh take it out on me. Um if you're gonna be mean though, please make it hilarious.
SPEAKER_02That's true.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I I don't mind a little hilarious.
SPEAKER_06Can't just be mean, like like Clark when he's looking at his phone. Just like shoot up, girl, and you're fat.
SPEAKER_02That's our child.
SPEAKER_06Our two of our children. So uh Stony J, no relation.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh!
SPEAKER_06Just a shout out to Stoney J. Stoney J uh asked a question on my three-storm fitness channel. He did. Yeah, my my defunct uh fitness channel. Uh-huh. And uh I answered it, and I won't get into the details, enough because it's sensitive or anything, because it'll just take forever. It'll be a whole new topic. Um and you know what he did? You know what Stony did? What? Stoney followed the trail. But not only did I think he take take my advice, and hopefully his joint pain is is is is mentally.
SPEAKER_02Did he quit eating a gallon of yogurt?
SPEAKER_06No, it was more on like volume of polyometric training. But he uh he followed the the link I left in the pinned comment on that video to this channel and he checked it out, and you know what he said?
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_06He said, Ha ha. Ha ha. I think Stony sounds more like haha. Said quite the change from fitness videos. You look smaller but healthier. I always wanted to learn guitar. Maybe next year. Best of luck on the songs.
SPEAKER_02What video did he leave out?
SPEAKER_06That was on the migraine video, the most recent full episode. That wait, was that the most recent one?
SPEAKER_02I have no because we talked about um X-Files last time.
SPEAKER_06Oh, okay. It would make sense why he would go to the migraine fitness. That was an actual kind of a it's probably the most recently published one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, obviously.
SPEAKER_06Cool. So thank you, Stony J.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no doubt, Stony Jay.
SPEAKER_06And uh I'm gonna say another uh just wanna shout it to someone else. Someone someone real special someone named Uncle Dan.
SPEAKER_02Do you want me to play happy birthday? Oh, can we?
SPEAKER_06I don't think so. Shoot. Um, do you want me to do do you want me to do it to David the gnome?
SPEAKER_02Try. I want you to try.
SPEAKER_06Wow, just just cold. Oh, cold. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's for Uncle Dan. Today's Uncle Dan's fifty-one.
SPEAKER_06Hmm.
SPEAKER_05Okay, here we go. Happy birthday to my little Danny boy. He's my special friend. He's only six inches tall.
SPEAKER_00But he's fifty one.
SPEAKER_06His birthday's on a leap year. No, it's not. Oh no. What?
SPEAKER_02It's the it's the twenty-eighth. The leap year is the twenty-ninth.
SPEAKER_06Who am I thinking of?
unknownDr.
SPEAKER_02D. Dr. Baby David. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05You're older than baby David. And you could boo. Party by yourself.
SPEAKER_00Yes, you can't.
SPEAKER_05My favorite quality.
SPEAKER_00That's good.
SPEAKER_02Happy birthday, Dansey. He's a little dandy.
SPEAKER_06It's a birthday song.
SPEAKER_02He does.
SPEAKER_06Um Uncle Dan is one of our one of our biggest fans. I should sing happy birthday to my to our mom. Oh yeah. My mom. Not your mom. We don't have the same thing. She needs to watch, she needs to watch more of it.
SPEAKER_02And we have different moms.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. And we that's true.
Why Rob Overexplains Everything
SPEAKER_02Speaking of, I I do I feel like there's a little a little lore that we could share about why you're so compelled to to literally over-explain every single thing that's ever popped into your head.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_02Okay. So you tell us.
SPEAKER_06Oh, what is it?
SPEAKER_02Well, it it has it revolves around Andre the Giant.
SPEAKER_06Oh, okay. Tell us how you felt when you were a child. Just make my mom feel bad. She's gonna take it the wrong way.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, we've already said it, so I might as well tell the story. It's not gonna make her feel bad. I'm the same way. I would have said the exact same thing to a child. Children are so dumb, their brains are so small, they can't comprehend. So you don't have to give them real answers, guys. Parenting tip.
SPEAKER_06I like to give, I like to, yeah, I like to overexplain everything. And I like to think about things. Thinking is one of my favorite things to do.
SPEAKER_02And he does not like answers that are like blase, kind of like, eh, it could have been this.
SPEAKER_06I do not. If you're gonna if you're going to say something with conviction as if it's the truth, you better be really freaking sure that it's true, or I'm going to call you on it. Not to be a jerk, but because no, maybe I'm being a little bit of a jerk. I'm kind of compulsive. Or uh it's kind of a com compulsion.
SPEAKER_02Well, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna tell the very quick experience story. Rob said, Rob told me this as an adult, so clearly didn't have any like formative power over him at all. But he asked his mom if Andre the Giant really weighed a ton. And he went literally, did he weigh 2,000 pounds? But as a mother who was probably doing a million things, she was like, Yeah, buddy. And then when Rob found out he didn't weigh 2,000 pounds, that was that was very much the beginning of the end, right? Yes. That's yeah, that's the lore. So now we've entered an era where Rob takes children to school. Uh and yeah, I guess you don't talk as much as you used to, but it depends on the morning. Yeah. Depends on how Rob takes our t our son to school. Honestly, for the last six years, you've been taking middle schoolers to school, um, of various family lineage lineages, uh, not just our own. And I like distinctly remember Lulie, one of our daughter's friends, being like, Rob just like he just like talks all the way to school. And I remember sometimes Rob would message me after he got to school and be like, Well, I hope uh Lulie's parents aren't upset with the things I share with them.
SPEAKER_06Well, the last thing I said, I don't even know if I told you this, but the last conversation was uh with with Graham and Jane? About, yeah, and Clark, about um not talking to the police, not letting them search your car, even no matter what they say, no matter whether you're not you're innocent.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I gave all sorts of examples about how no one could ever accuse Rob of not informing children, you know, because I mean ignorance is how you get into trouble, honestly. So hey, we'll take it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, well, I mean, as a kid, I would somebody would say, Oh no, I never did that, or no, I don't know anything about that. Let's not talk about that. And I would think, okay, but then you'd be faced with it in your actual life. And then you'd be like, well, I can't go to that person because they have no experience with it. So I'm gonna go to the people who do have experience with it, and they seem to be doing just fine. You try whatever it is, or you you know partake in whatever, and it's not so bad. In fact, it's awesome. And then you know, hilarity ensues. Yeah, and then before you know it, Dana Play-Doh. Rest in peace.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Different strokes.
SPEAKER_02And I'll I'll just circle back to uh your mother. If all mother-in-laws were like your mother, there would be zero mother-in-law stereotypes.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, my parents, I can't. I'm just gonna go. The worst thing she ever did was not answered. It's not my parents' fault. Yeah, by the way.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, that just explains why we overexplained why we're gonna do it.
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna have the exact same opposite effect on my kids. They're gonna go.
SPEAKER_02They're never gonna answer anyone's questions. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06It's you can't win.
SPEAKER_02Like the kids will ask a question, and Rob will still be talking like 30 minutes later, I'll look in the backseat and they're both like sleeping or have headphones on, and he's still talking about it.
SPEAKER_06I'm just like, Carolyn says she's just asking me questions sometimes just because she just wants to have white noise on, essentially. That's so great. Hey, whatever. That's okay. So we just replaced consumption corner for like a little with explanation corner. Rob on the couch corner.
SPEAKER_02That's right.
SPEAKER_06Um, psychotherapy corner.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I love that.
SPEAKER_06You're the psycho.
SPEAKER_02What are you? The therapy?
SPEAKER_06Therapized. You're a music therapist. I am. Isn't that amazing?
SPEAKER_02I'm a psychomusic therapist.
SPEAKER_06Anything else we want to say about how we're saving time?
SPEAKER_02I can't think of anything.
SPEAKER_06Um we will talk, we will still talk about a little bit of consumption. We're just gonna keep it.
SPEAKER_02I actually had a thing to share today.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah, go ahead. What is it?
Kindle Unlimited Finds And Bad Editing
SPEAKER_02Oh okay. Well I read a lot of stupid crap on Kindle Unlimited, and you would be uh shocked at how terrible um at how terribly they're edit. First of all, a lot of the Kindle Unlimited books are pretty bad. Um just like poorly made it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Well there's like no Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but then there's also like the editing. It just does non-existent. Like there, like I was reading one, and like I'll get like a few chapters in and I'll be like, I can't do this. There's nothing redeeming about this, and then I'll move on. But like I saw one the other the other day where it had like a sentence that was let's just say it was like she went to the car to get a blah blah blah. And then the very next paragraph, literally right underneath it, it said, She went to the car to get a blah blah blah. It was like you didn't even see that that sentence was written two times. Or it's like they I don't know if you've ever seen people's like YouTube videos where they're editing, but they they say the same thing twice, but they forget to edit it out the first time when they fixed it, so you hear them say it twice. Like, that's how it is in the book. And I'm just like, this is crazy. So anyway, I did stumble upon one that is a it's a good romance one. It's also a bit of a closed door romance.
SPEAKER_06That means that there's no lighting. Um explicit family show, so I won't. There's no like a there's not like a gnome taking a bath in it.
SPEAKER_02Like the X-rayed cartoon we're gonna talk about. Oh, sorry. Anyway, Susie Tate, the author, and the book is called Beyond R Tate. Beyond Repair. And it's just like a stupid romance novel, but it actually is well edited and somewhat well written. And if you're looking for some trash that's not really trash, that's just fluff. That's a good one.
SPEAKER_06So we're just this is an interesting choice of words for what for the topic you're talking about.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_06Are you familiar with it?
SPEAKER_02I I am. You don't need to go on. I unfortunately I know too much.
SPEAKER_06Is it okay? You're welcome. I love you. But anyway, that was. Is that because of me? Or did you just was that like your dad?
SPEAKER_02We talk about Yeah, it's most of the terrible things I know I learned from my dad. Yeah. Not you.
SPEAKER_06He's a big flaw guy.
SPEAKER_02Go on.
SPEAKER_06Your eyes. Go on. Okay. Um we were gonna talk about people under the stairs. We we'll we'll talk about that later. Yeah, that's my fault. Not the movie. No. The um double K and uh Test One. The uh duo. Remember when we watched it in college?
SPEAKER_02Watched the movie though?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Had you already seen it?
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_02So you didn't know it was gonna be as stupid as it was?
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_02And like the people I worked with. Oh my god, this is like the scariest movie we've ever seen.
SPEAKER_06It wasn't even uh you know some scary movies are like they're stupid, or they're you know, they're they're they're but they're they're scary. They're at least kind of scary, or they're at least or that there's at least something memorable. And this sh this movie just kind of sucks all the way. It's scarable. It had Ving Rames in it. That was about its only redeeming quality. I don't know why I remember that. I guess because I love Ving Rames.
SPEAKER_02So anyway, I dropped the ball on my assignment for listening to that. I've I've heard it, we've listened to it in the car several times, like on trips. But I need to I need to be a little bit more. We'll just talk about I just didn't have time between we recorded pretty back to back this time, I feel like. And I didn't have a whole lot of time.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we've got like, I think what we did the last one four days ago.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Monday night.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, which is why my notes are such a mess. Oh my god. It's always my notes. My notes, my notes. Oh I know this morning.
SPEAKER_02This morning you got up at seven o'clock. I'm like, why it's Saturday morning. I'm like, why are you getting up? He's like, I gotta get my notes together. I gotta make coffee and put my notes together. And two and a half hours later, you got the notes together.
SPEAKER_06There's other stuff that was done.
SPEAKER_02Well, I took a walk.
SPEAKER_06I took a Browntown. A little Browntown Express. What do you think about that? I think that's crazy. So, anyways, yeah, we'll keep we'll keep talking about uh weekly albums. And uh I do enjoy that. We'll do it a little quicker and I'd like to kind of build them into main topics. Yeah. Like we could do one where we go through and be like Okay, this is a list of all the albums we listened to the last 20 episodes, 20 weeks. Which one of these are gonna make the cut for a road trip? That kind of thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER_06So we'll okay.
SPEAKER_02And uh And with that, he has saved our marriage.
SPEAKER_06And with yeah, look at that. Always trying to make just make a little improvement every time.
SPEAKER_02Every day you just try to be a little better than you were yesterday.
SPEAKER_06I also said I would talk about Carry and Comfort by Dan Simmons. I don't know how the angle I want to it's it's it's first of all, so I listened to it. It's like 37-ish hours, which is a few years. I probably heard about four to six sentences of it. Did you what'd you think?
SPEAKER_02Well, every time I turn my car on, if you're anywhere nearby, it would like start playing your stuff.
SPEAKER_06You finish up driving and you're already connected to your own phone. I will intentionally go slowly. So your Bluetooth doesn't the Highlander Bluetooth uh logic is the stupidest thing in the world, but whatever. Um first world problems.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
Dan Simmons And Brutal Villains
SPEAKER_06So the Carry and Comfort by Dan Simmons. Uh, this came up, it was put on my radar, never read anything by Dan Simmons, put on my radar in our Desert Island episode where I said I would take Dan Simmons' entire body of work kind of on a on a gamble, just because I've I've heard great things and he he's a big genre spanning writer. Great reputation. Carry and comfort is the debut of the Dan Simmons uh work that I decided to break into, and I really loved it. It's so terrible, like it's so brutal and offensive, and there's just tons of indiscriminate killing, and there's horrible genocide and racism and all sorts of like sexual assault and terrible themes. But all the so all the it's about these psychic vampires. I don't want to give too much away, but they they call them vampires, they're not actually vampires, not the blood kind of vampire, right? Are they feed off of uh sort of not really? They they can definitely heal themselves by by causing death or some sort basically usually let's just call it death. No, I wish. We should do the lighthouse on the show. I really that that movie really stayed with me. No.
SPEAKER_02I um I have a question for you about this book, but you can keep talking.
SPEAKER_06So the villains are just your quintessential, awful villains.
SPEAKER_02You hate them? You hate a you hate a nasty villain.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, they're they're terrible, but they're so bad that they're almost perfect. Like they're like it's it feeds as the show, as the book develops, it feeds into it just creates this big plot, and you find out kind of why they are the way they are, and it's just like, yes, they are they're so evil that they're not even evil. They're just this is this is their directive.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And it's like literally baked into their survival. It's almost like I don't want to give too much away. It's not really in it's not a huge reveal necessarily, but the book just builds and slowly grows, both in terms of explanation for what's going on, but also scale and also genre. It's like parts, it's a really more of a thriller than it is a horror, even though horrible, horrible things happen.
SPEAKER_02I know. I keep thinking, wow, I want to read this, and then you keep reminding me about that stuff right now. I did.
SPEAKER_06I mean, the only reason I'm saying that is because it's it is, I mean, there's like, you know, I say this because my mom, you know, kids die. You got a lot of very racist terminology used.
SPEAKER_02It's almost like Are you saying that because this is stuff your mom loves?
SPEAKER_06Mom, kids die. However, it there's a lot of racism, which you love, being from the South and all. No, but the there is this the Southern character, Melanie. Oh my gosh, she is she's just something. I I I I love the hate 'em nicknames for the people in the world. The way she refers to the black protagonist is it I'm not easily offended, but it grinds on you by the end of the book. But anyways, um But it's a I really I really enjoyed it. I mean, I I loved it, actually. It just it's so absurd, but so it's it's well written. Um I don't know if you would like it or not. I feel like if you could get if you could get to the first it's it it's it's huge. It's like it's almost like it becomes like almost like a spycraft movie, mixed with like Battle Royale and Epstein Island and freaking it's just crazy and it's Red Rising, like the later Red Rising books? Um like I said, it's it's all over different genres and tropes, and I'm not sure what because this was written in the early 80s, so I'm not sure. Oh really? Yeah, I don't know what was inspired by what and how did you fall into this book? I just uh I just wanted to see what the But I mean how did you discover it? The Desert Island podcast we did.
SPEAKER_02Oh, oh, oh, oh, right.
SPEAKER_06I wanted to find out about Dan Simmons. Yeah. An author I had.
SPEAKER_02Can you imagine I can't even really imagine writing a book, but can you imagine writing a book where you're constantly in that world where you're creating these awful It's gotta be a pretty weird headspace.
SPEAKER_06I often wonder that when he was writing some of the stuff. How much of this is he saying this to make his character you know to vilify his character? Because like in a lot of most of the the protagonists are awesome, like the good guys in the book, like super good. Yeah, but don't yeah, I'll just say don't get like too attached. Um you never know who's gonna go. It's like Game of Thrones. Actually, this in this book, like this the the overarching arching storyline is a lot like Game of Thrones in terms of just huge power plays. Yeah, because all these folks are like on there's like a pre there's a preacher, there's a literal Nazi, there's like an a woman with like antebellum south values, there's a like again, like a Epstein type character, there's a pornographer rapist character. There's all and these are all the and they all like kind of are buddies with each other, and they played these crazy games.
SPEAKER_02I don't think I can read this.
SPEAKER_06So you learn as much about the villains, like the character development follows the villains just as much as it does.
SPEAKER_02Well, as it's like how I'm always like, well, this is why people do bad things, because bad things were done to them.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah. In this case, it's more of like an evolutionary reason, although some of the I could elaborate. It's a long book, right? It goes into a lot of stuff. But I also often wonder like how much of this is Dan Simmons and just kind of older, you know, because this book's like 50 years old or 40 or whatever.
SPEAKER_02Things are more commonplace, yes, more culturally acceptable at that time.
SPEAKER_06Exactly. And how much of it is he's just trying to create a a book where you really hate these guys. And anyways, it's uh it's cool.
SPEAKER_02It's like it's like Heath Ledger and the Joker. There's like two, it's like you just get into this. Yeah, it's like he's awful, but you love Well, no, but I just mean like as the actor having to play this character. Right, like a method as the author having to write all this stuff and just having that all in your brain all the time, and having to to like think through like what's the what other terrible things should this person be doing? Ugh, I just couldn't do it.
SPEAKER_06I could.
SPEAKER_02I'm just so good.
SPEAKER_06I could definitely do it. I could write like this. Um I can't write as well as he could, but as far as disturbing, yeah, I could be easily cute. Remember I'll talk about my creative writ creative writing experiences as a kid and some of my teachers' reactions. Um we had to finish a Russian roulette story in seventh grade.
SPEAKER_02That's such a strange uh topic started.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, my tea shout out to Mr. Phillips. Anyways, Mr. Phillips, we had uh it was a Russian roulette, like, and then they pulled the trigger and then and then he's like, Alright, kids, you finish the and I just dad would never can you even imagine them handing that out today? I made mine so incredibly violent.
SPEAKER_02He deserved that. You should have.
SPEAKER_06He loved it. He had me come up and he's like, Would you mind reading that in front of the class? He's just like the way you wrote that.
SPEAKER_02Okay, just imagine that today.
SPEAKER_06No, dude, we'd like we're gonna get exposed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, if Clark came home and was like I read, I somebody read, somebody stood up and read this, I'd be like, uh, what? Why was that even a writing prompt? When I was in sixth grade, it's just like at the very least, it's just kind of an insensitive thing to ask children.
SPEAKER_06It's pretty the whole thing from start to finish is messed up.
SPEAKER_02I mean it's terrible, but I mean at the very least, you don't know what kids in your classroom who have have been uh exposed to gun violence in their families or totally.
SPEAKER_06Oh no, it's insane. It's insane. I'm not like glorifying, but at the time I was all about it, obviously. Um by my choices. Another time when I was in sixth grade, I had to uh write a I do a creative writing assignment and I made mine about like an alien invasion, and it was just over-the-top slaughter violence on both ends. It had to be like two pages. Mine was like 20, and I was like just starting. I was just like, so I wanted to get up and read it in front of the class, and my my teachers were always like they're always all. Yeah, like pat you on the back for the violence, like the things I used to draw in class. Like I I drew this huge line.
SPEAKER_02And no one ever sent you to the guidance counselor?
SPEAKER_06No, it's like it was uh the 80s, 70s and 80s.
SPEAKER_02It's a different time to be alive.
SPEAKER_06People who are younger, or I don't know, whatever. I I don't I'm gonna talk like I'm some some expert. I know every generation has this weird retrospective. When I was young, yeah. But in any case, 70s and I watch a lot of 70s and 80s media. And it's like really heavy and dark and super violent, super gross, very disturbing. I mean, like Quentin Tarantino, for all of his questionable content, was just basically nursed. He was like bottle fed that stuff from like four years old. Like it's it's pretty dark stuff. So like sorry, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02No, no, I was just gonna say this is probably completely stupid theory, but do you think like like in in everyday life people didn't talk about stuff like that with each other back then? Like parents didn't tell kids things and kids didn't tell their parents stuff, and then that was the outlet for this could be the side of humanity.
SPEAKER_06We should probably make this a main topic. No, I'm just saying, like, because I I want to start talking about it. We're never gonna get we look at what we did. I think we somehow made it longer.
SPEAKER_02I think we all right. Let's move on. Let's move on.
SPEAKER_06I do want to keep going, but no, no, do you want to?
SPEAKER_02I want to move on.
SPEAKER_06Okay, should we?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
Old Media Violence And School Prompts
SPEAKER_06Because by the time we get to different to Alan Thick, we're not gonna want to talk about it. Let's go. You ready? Should we go cannibal the musical?
SPEAKER_02Cannibal the musical.
SPEAKER_06We'll come back to yeah, to care c carry and comfort. Maybe maybe you read it and we we we pick this up again.
SPEAKER_02Oh, gee.
SPEAKER_06No, okay.
SPEAKER_02I'm not saying I won't, but if I do, it's gonna take me like six months. I mean, you've listened crazy to it and it how it took you.
SPEAKER_05I listened crazy. Crazy.
SPEAKER_02Like it still took you like a month, right? Um straight drag it off your listener.
SPEAKER_06It took yeah, it took about three weeks, probably. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Alright.
Cannibal The Musical Background
SPEAKER_06I always listen to 1.2 speed normally.
SPEAKER_02Cannibal the musical.
SPEAKER_06Cannibal the musical.
SPEAKER_02By Trey Parker.
SPEAKER_06Trey Parker. Can you give us a little background on all that produced?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Hang on.
SPEAKER_021993?
SPEAKER_06Uh yes. Yes, I believe it was 1993. I was 10 years old. Um Okay, yeah, I was uh I was eleven.$125,000 budget, which they raised independently.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna say where'd they get the money? So go fund me.
SPEAKER_06Kind of. I mean it was I mean, he went and just basically hit up, apparently. I mean, this is the the minimal research I did, but he went up and hit up a bunch of he was like 23 at the time.
SPEAKER_02Honestly, that's kind of a astonishing that he was able to do that with$125,000.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02The movie Did anyone get paid?
SPEAKER_06I mean, I'm sure they did. But I I don't know. I don't know what the distribution was. Yeah, there was a lot of a lot of work.
SPEAKER_02And like the on on location filming?
SPEAKER_06Yeah. I don't I don't have a ton of people. They're literally in the wilderness. Yes.
SPEAKER_02The western wilderness. Yeah, Rockies.
SPEAKER_06In the the Colorado terror territory.
SPEAKER_02Well, they're trying to get to Breckenridge.
SPEAKER_06So yeah, he did this. So he made the trailer, from what I understand. He made the trailer where he was in Colorado uh at college for for for film. And you know what his uh his other major was?
SPEAKER_02Musical theater?
SPEAKER_06No. You're not gonna guess it, but you'll you'll know what I'm saying. Swimming? Japanese.
SPEAKER_02Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_06Does that start to make sense? Yep. With the uh Ute uh Native American tribe. They're uh I don't remember, it's like I I'm I'll I'll butcher it, but the the name of the actu what they keep what they refer to themselves as just means Japanese people.
SPEAKER_03In Japanese.
SPEAKER_06They're just straight, straight up speaking Japanese. It's kind of a I think it's sort of a commentary on on old Westerns and their um not being very lack of sensitivity to everything. Yeah. It's not funny, Leslie.
SPEAKER_02You know a lot of the people that I see on hospice, you know what channel they have on without fail, without ceasing.
SPEAKER_06Is it the the Western channel, though? Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. Would you consider this a good old Western?
SPEAKER_02You know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't consider it a good old Western.
SPEAKER_06So this uh yeah, they he got expelled from uh from Colorado. And he uh just grades, I guess.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. Did he ever graduate?
SPEAKER_06Uh no, I don't think so. But uh he was doing all right. Yeah, yeah, he's doing okay there.
SPEAKER_02In case you don't know, he's the South Park. He and his buddy Matt Stone.
SPEAKER_06I think he likes to be called billionaires. They're both billionaires.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Like actual billionaires. Uh due to well, it started here.
SPEAKER_02In this basement.
SPEAKER_06And you could in this basement right here, they were uh right just right behind those very blankies that you see on.
SPEAKER_02And curtains.
SPEAKER_06And two microphones.
SPEAKER_02Aww. And like Guitar.
SPEAKER_06And the what?
SPEAKER_02Guitar.
SPEAKER_06Yes. But they uh yeah, they I guess hit it off. You see, like, you see so much of their work in this. There's literal South Park power South Park voices. You have like I heard Mr. Garrison or Cartman. Oh, yeah. I mean, you have I mean Matt Stones and you can hear a lot of the yeah this kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_02Like the parents, the adults in South Park.
SPEAKER_06Yes. It's uh it's super South Park, and you have uh Squeak, who is uh How did he meet that guy? His name's not Squeak, but the he was just like one of their buddies in uh in college? Okay.
SPEAKER_02It was Did anyone did uh Matt Stone graduate from college?
SPEAKER_06I don't know. That would be ordinarily a corrections corner.
SPEAKER_02That was gonna be an Instagram corner.
SPEAKER_06That was gonna be an Instagram corner. But uh yeah, what the heck was Squeak's name in in real life?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I have no idea.
SPEAKER_06It was um but he he's the one who It's like I swear if you guys and in baseball, he's like, you guys make fun of me 13 or 14 more times. I'm out of here.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I watched I watched baseball.
SPEAKER_06Diane Bashar was his name. He played George California Noon.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_06The guy who just wanted to what's his real what's his real name? Dean or Diane? D-I-A-N. How would you say that? Bashar?
SPEAKER_02Diane.
SPEAKER_06Diane, I think it might be Diane. Diana. He should have gone, he should have stuck with Squeak. A boy named Diane. Johnny Cat. Shell Silverstein's uh that wound up in the trash bin.
SPEAKER_03But yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Um yeah, but this was uh what'd you think of this? Well, do you want to uh yeah did you ask me how I came to know this movie? Is that what you I just said give us some back. Did you say that? Did you say hey, how did you come to know this movie?
SPEAKER_02How did you come to know this?
Cannibal The Musical Plot Walkthrough
SPEAKER_06Well, I'm glad you asked.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_06So that's this dude I need to I used to work with uh before we moved down here. So we're talking, let's say 16 years ago.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_06His name was Scott. Scott was an interesting guy, didn't know him that well, but I I really like I feel like if we if if I stuck around, we probably would have been like best friends. He played Final Fantasy VII uh once a year um and beat it. It was like part of his routine. He uh turned me on to do you remember the show Mr. Show? It was with David Cross and Bob Odenkirk. It was like before both of them started getting started. No, we watched a few of them. Maybe I just watched them by myself. But he turned me on. Oh, you know who he is? Who? He's the Here Come the Juices guy.
SPEAKER_02Oh, from the from the sandwich restaurant.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. I went to he's like, man, you gotta go to this restaurant. They have the best sandwiches, and it's like the steak is like super juicy, and like when you eat it, like the juice, like the juice comes out. And he was like, Eat-I'm eating a sandwich with him, and he's just like, he takes a bite, he's like, Oh, here come the juices. And I just fell over to the floor. I'm gonna apply that to so many things in my life.
SPEAKER_02It's very and I have it's very wide ranging.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and Scott, thank you also for turning me on the cannibal the musical. He he referred to it in conversation. Oh, um he was sitting. In he was singing one of the songs.
SPEAKER_02Fur Trapper one?
SPEAKER_06No. Um uh what is the Shaboinkle? Spadoinkle? Spadoinkle. Yeah, Spido. Yeah, I was like, what is that? And he said There we go.
SPEAKER_02Sorry. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_06Oh my gosh, how does that happen? I think I've only hit the bike once in 25 episodes. I don't know. You need it 25 times in every episode.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, spidoinkle day.
SPEAKER_06Spidoinkle Day, where uh the the air is the sun is as hot as a baked potato. As hot as a baked potato, my heart is as full as a baked potato. And the air is as fresh as a baked potato. I know just what I mean.
SPEAKER_03I know just what I mean. That's the best line. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Um anyways, he was singing that, and it was the Brain If song. I think I'm saying that right, it which is South Park's like publishing company or distr distribution company. You know that it's that plane in the in the end of the after after the like the post credit post credits. Of South Park? Yeah, and he goes, Bom don't. Oh, that's that.
SPEAKER_01That's from that.
SPEAKER_06And he's like, well, this is that's yeah, exactly. That's what he said. He's like, you know what the end of South Park, where they play that? He's like, that's from Cannibal the Musical, and that was the first thing he ever did. First thing that that Trey and Matt ever worked on together. This babe, by the way, just pretty much Trey.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_06Like Matt is hilarious in it, as as Humphrey. Like, he's so funny. He basically plays the same character in Orgasmo as well. And baseball. It's worth a watch.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. It's yeah. Okay. Um, but anyways, I I didn't know that, so of course I went. Oh, I don't remember the first time I I watched this and and where I watched it. I might have had to just assemble YouTube clips. So I don't think I ever actually just sat and watched this entire thing start to finish like we did. I think I just saw like all the musicals and some of the crazy.
SPEAKER_02All the songs. It's it is a musical.
SPEAKER_06It is a musical and it's not a bad one. What do you think?
SPEAKER_02Well, I think it's if you've ever I love I'm I'm a big musical person. I could say I have some critiques.
SPEAKER_06Oh, do you?
SPEAKER_02I do.
SPEAKER_06That's weird.
SPEAKER_02Just on the formula.
SPEAKER_06Excuse me, who are you to critique this movie?
SPEAKER_02Just on the formula uh of what makes a musical great, he really we really miss out on Well, first of all, have you ever seen Oklahoma?
SPEAKER_06I have not.
SPEAKER_02Because you are mi you're you're missing a bit of um Oh, there's a lot of references. So like the opening number of Oklahoma starts with a single person singing, which actually the last time I saw Oklahoma was when the local high school put it together, and um Ian that does our church, he was the lead. Oh really? Yeah, I didn't know, of course, know him. He was in high school then, but okay. Um anyway, it's just like one farmer, one like hazy guy walking in the theater, and he walks in the back of the theater and he sings a very like the Schbadoinkle Day is very much like, oh, what a beautiful movie that song. It's very much a ripoff of that. And um, like a smaller ensemble, how they have. But what they're missing in the beginning is a big group number. Like an opening.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, they kind of saved up for the end. Yeah, which they should have had. That's when I was like, Yes, this is great.
SPEAKER_02But there's usually a pretty great, you know. So that's my that's the critique I have. And then the other, the only other critique I have really is that I wish there had been more music.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, there were some droughts. Um they that would go a while with that.
SPEAKER_02But it was as someone who was raised on especially older musicals like that, it is a hundred percent a very well-done parody of the city.
SPEAKER_06It was also they're also like massive Monty Python fans.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_06Like they kind of met over Monty Python.
SPEAKER_02Oh, the first like opening scene with the horrific violence.
unknownOh yeah.
SPEAKER_02I was like, this is very Monty Python.
SPEAKER_06This feels very Monty Python. It's like Ricky O level violent.
SPEAKER_02Do you want to know what I wrote?
SPEAKER_06What?
SPEAKER_02I wrote horrific opening scene. Is this Ricky O?
SPEAKER_06Story Is this the story of Ricky or the story of Alfred Packer? By the way, check out our Ricky O, The Story of Ricky episode. Yeah, it's a good one. A few away. A few a few ago.
SPEAKER_02And if you liked if you should watch Ricky, the story of Ricky O.
SPEAKER_06You should just watch it. Fine film. Sorry. This was a uh trauma film, which uh the copy I have is a vinegar syndrome one, which is a whole it's this whole I always when people don't know what I'm talking about. I'm not an expert in that, but I always think of like the Toxic Avenger or so do you remember USA Up All Night with Rhonda and then Gilbert Gottfried was in it? I I don't. They used to play movies like this. Like Trauma films. Like Trauma was the distributor. Okay. And anyways, they pulled played a ton of those, but this this got picked up by them.
SPEAKER_02So I guess like that kind of per catapulted out a little.
SPEAKER_06Yes. So then one thing led to another, Southwark came about.
SPEAKER_02One thing I didn't really catch was that that horrific opening scene was just the way they portrayed his cannibalism in the courtroom.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02Cause I kept waiting for that to happen. And then when it didn't happen and it happened.
SPEAKER_06He's like, that's not how it happened at all.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I didn't really I wasn't piecing that together.
SPEAKER_06That is sort of the way it actually like this book is a book. This this movie is actually pretty similar not too far from the storyline of the actual, like, true events. Of Alfred Packer.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_06Who led, I think it was like five five guys on a mining expedition, took them the wrong way, they got got lost. I don't know about Lee Ann and that whole thing. Or I don't know the horse love story. I think they sang too much, and I don't think they were uh the uh Nihonjan uh tribe tribe, I don't believe they had katanas either. Or the trappers. I don't know about that, but he did he was forced to defend himself more than likely. He did get off on technicality with the whole Colorado territory. Couldn't try him because a lot of it was actually kind of based on the on the true story, like it wasn't that far removed.
SPEAKER_02Anyways, um Do they know whether or not he had ballet dreams?
SPEAKER_06With the trapper. That was my guest. I love the trapper so much. Yeah. Oh, the ballet. I love they have like a stunt person with the dancing, and then they have him kind of like trying to recover from that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was like, this is really good. I'm surprised he's so and then immediately it's like oh that's not. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_06I was surprised they didn't like stuff the front a little bit more. I feel like that'd be a little more of their speed, but I guess they have they have limits as well. Um but yeah, the the other Monty Python pieces were uh the beginning, where he talks about uh how he's like a something human humanitarian. Is it well they're c I I just thought about the you know that where they're showing the text in the beginning of the movie?
SPEAKER_02Um that whole that huge Yeah, about how the Oklahoma came out at the same time and that's why this Yes.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yes, and then I just felt very Monty Python. It reminded me of yeah, the whole the moose, all the moose uh comments in the beginning of Holy Grail. Or or Wells. I think it was is that the character who was like God, God works in mysterious ways, which is like after after he like kills all of them, which is like he's the one that keeps saying that, or they or the or or do we need a scenario? But he but the way the the way he uh kept coming back reminded me of the Black Knight in uh Holy Grail that is a flesh wound and he just keeps getting his arms cut off. He's just a torso. And he comes back at the very end of this movie, which we will be spoiling.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Well, should I give a little rundown? Yeah, let's do it. So what's his name? Alfred?
SPEAKER_06Uh-huh. Alfred L-F-E-R-D.
SPEAKER_02Right, Alfred Packer. Which that sounds like something. But I can't think of what it is, so we'll go on.
SPEAKER_06It sounds kind of like Alfred.
SPEAKER_02It does, but I mean something Packer.
SPEAKER_06Well, they they kind of played a little bit to the to the to the the Packer um piece when they're eating around the fire. That's not what you're thinking, clearly.
SPEAKER_02So anyway, this guy's he ends up getting recruited to take a uh fire scene.
SPEAKER_06I'm sorry. The campfire scene. Which one? Well, they're just all they're naked.
SPEAKER_02Oh, and he's like, I'm just imagining that you're a woman. But they're half of them are wearing neckarchie. I have that written down.
SPEAKER_06I really love I really actually kind of love this movie.
SPEAKER_02Like I I'd like to watch it again sometime when I can breathe a little better.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02Go ahead. All right, so this guy, Alfred Packer, gets recruited to take a group of men from Utah to Breckenridge, Colorado. Yes. And he's like not super confident that like he's No, not at all. Yeah, he's like, I've been there before, but so they and they're gonna they want to go mine for gold somewhere else, which is why they're going. And so he brings his horse along and he's basically I think romantically in love with his horse.
SPEAKER_06Basically.
SPEAKER_02He has a whole song about her where it about how great he feels when he's on top of her.
SPEAKER_06A little bit into scat.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Oh yeah, there's a scat scene.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, a little bit horse scat. I think that maybe kind of loosely paved the way to Team America.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_06With the uncut uh scene.
SPEAKER_02I was thinking that Let's Build a Snowman song probably uh was inspirational for Frozen.
SPEAKER_06I was thinking that too. And I was thinking that the uh all the the millions of groin punches and kicks to the uh trapper might have inspired Master Ken. In have you ever seen Master Ken on YouTube?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_06He kind of dresses up like Ken from Street Fighter 2, and he is like almost all of his videos revolve around. Yes, I've seen this. Are they silly? Yeah, they're silly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I've seen that.
SPEAKER_06But he just there's like 500 ways to hit somebody in the nuts, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I I feel like this this move this movie might have might have inspired a lot of great minds.
SPEAKER_02So anyway, they start off on their journey. He says it's gonna take them three weeks to get there. Um, one thing I love that they do in this movie is they have the map that shows you their terribly ridiculous circ circuitous paths.
SPEAKER_06Like when they go down the Colorado River, they travel like a hundred miles in like 15 minutes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Compared to how they've been traveling. Because they're swept away in the river. Uh that was the Green River, I think, that they traveled the first time. Because he was like, Are there any more rivers like this? He's like, No, just the Colorado. And then they show another cutscene where they get out of the Colorado. So anyway, they basically they get lost.
SPEAKER_06Yes, yeah, that's that's accurate.
SPEAKER_02One of them gets oh, oh, they have an encounter with the fur trappers.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Who are one of the things I had written is like every once in a while in the very beginning, like you would see like some people's costuming was incredibly period appropriate, but then you'd see some people in some stuff that was just like they clearly bought that wall at like American Eagle or I don't know if that was even a store then, but like it was just like a plaid flannel that was like not it was a very modern day cut. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Well, especially the guy with the uh those big blousy sleeves.
SPEAKER_02Well, at the very end, it had to be a woman's shirt. But but after I had written the blue plaid, okay, so Lucky Larry's this guy that this like they just carry this stretcher with a burning body in it, and the guys carrying that have this electric blue plaid on, like the color of your now gene blottle. And I had written this, these are not exactly period plaid, and then like right after that they meet the fur trappers who have like these jean jackets on, and they have like cut-out letters in animal hide on the back of their jackets.
SPEAKER_03I can't remember what it said, like the trappers or something like that.
SPEAKER_06They have like zebra print, yeah. Like the feeds are made out of different animal hides. You got the guy with the skunk hat with the with the little eyes on it. And then uh Humphrey's like, nice hat.
SPEAKER_02Says it twice. So anyway, they have this encounter with the fur trappers.
SPEAKER_06Fur trappers make fun of him for uh they say his helpless animal skin with my bare hands. Well, not there.
SPEAKER_02Well, hold on. We're not to the part where they meet back up again. Sorry, okay. I'm at the part where they like they act like his horse is unhappy being with him. And he has like this.
SPEAKER_06He's a trapper horse. He's a trapper horse. He's an Arabian.
SPEAKER_02He's an Arabian horse and a trapper horse.
SPEAKER_06And uh Red Dead Redemption 2. Yeah. White Arabian.
SPEAKER_02Did you guys trap?
SPEAKER_06Honestly, I don't want to spoil RDR too, but get yourself an Arabian. There's a bit of a there's a there's I've known some grown men who have cried with their horse story. This uh my my experience with RDR too kind of kind of got me ready for this movie.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it helped you understand where Alfred was coming from. His love affair with that horse. Exactly.
SPEAKER_06So by the way, Alfred was wearing like mom jeans, basically.
SPEAKER_02Basically, yeah. He was just wearing like like he's like, oh, denim jeans from the late 80s are fine for me to wear in this.
SPEAKER_06But you know, it's probably a lot like Tim and Eric how they you always say, like, do you think this sketch started because they found a funny new effect on their computer and just decided to build a sketch around it?
SPEAKER_02Or they found these wigs and they're like, hey, let's you know Or like that one time when we went to the Columbus Zoo. I don't think you were with us, but there was like there's a boat ride at the Columbus Zoo, and it was like a pirate-themed one. And uh my sister and I were cracking up because the whole time it just felt like somebody had like a had gotten a great deal on a bunch of pirate problems.
SPEAKER_06Tell me about that, yeah. Like wholesale pirates. What do we do with the stuff we can do?
SPEAKER_02But it was like the it it always like the Columbus Zoo, like the path of the boat ride is always the same. It just looked like they had put statues shut up statues of pirates around while you just travel through. Like has nothing to do with piracy. Anyway, uh so then they encounter quote heavy air quotes Native Americans who are Japanese people wearing headdresses and stuff.
SPEAKER_06They were a bunch of Japanese foreign exchange students, apparently. That's what I read.
SPEAKER_02The guy that played the chief was great, unbelievably funny.
SPEAKER_06He was so great.
SPEAKER_02He was so good.
SPEAKER_06If all of his delivery these people actors Honestly, the acting wasn't I mean, it wasn't great, but it wasn't that bad.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I mean I think it was a lot of acting.
SPEAKER_02That's what I'm saying. Like the guy that played the chief was like he an actor, or was he just like a random?
SPEAKER_06I don't know. I I didn't uh you know, we just watched it last night. I didn't do not do my my thorough level of of uh research, but he was. I loved that guy. The uh chief um I have it written down somewhere. But yeah, that that guy was great. I love anyways, continue.
SPEAKER_02Uh I did accidentally skip over their group number, that's all I'm asking for. Or they each had like a dream for their trip.
SPEAKER_06Yes. I don't want to do anything anymore. That's all I'm asking for.
SPEAKER_03Who was the one that said that?
SPEAKER_06I don't remember.
SPEAKER_02That's I relate heavily to that.
SPEAKER_06I do too. Although I think I'm lined up.
SPEAKER_02And then the scene, yeah, where they get they get a they get swept away and they have to cross the river and like they get out and they're freezing to death, so they take off all their clothes and bundle up with each other.
SPEAKER_06Sing uh what I was on top of you.
SPEAKER_02I didn't sing it out then, dude. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Was that when he sings? That's when he does the horse song.
SPEAKER_02Because his horse runs away. Yeah. And he thinks the horse, like they're all like, he left, she just left you. And then like he's nervous that he won she wanted to become a trapper horse. And anyway, um, yeah, and they all have like they're all completely naked, but they have their cowboy hats on and their neckerchiefs. They're all laying together and cuddled up for body heats. Really funny. Um, yes, and so then when they when they discover the Japanese Native Americans, someone's gonna take this out of context.
SPEAKER_06There's no way we can if we're gonna talk about this, we're just gonna lose. Let's just say that they were super charming and funny, and that is the truth.
SPEAKER_02I love, I mean, I'm sure this is the point, but like they were like just fully like, okay, yeah, these are Indians. Like they weren't really cool.
SPEAKER_06Like Indians.
SPEAKER_03Japanese people just kept saying they were Indians.
SPEAKER_02So then they discover that the fur trappers are also like waiting out a storm at this Indian tribe. It's Japanese.
SPEAKER_06Native American I don't know if I'm saying that right.
SPEAKER_02It's and then that's when we get the famous Trapper song. So if you want to quote some trapper lyrics.
SPEAKER_06I love the trapper song. I think it's my is it your I think it's my favorite song from the it's very, very good. Just I love the what's the main guy's name? Uh he's got a Frenchie? Yeah, Frenchie, but what is his actual full name?
SPEAKER_02I have no idea.
SPEAKER_06It's a it's absurd.
SPEAKER_02You mean from the movie?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I don't know.
SPEAKER_06Uh anyways, that guy's great. Uh it it's it's it's kind of like a what would you call it, like a pirate, like a uh sea shanty kind of feel to it. Don't don't don't don't don't no don't. Here you go, Dennis.
SPEAKER_05And then they go uh yo ho the fur, cut the skin out with my knife.
SPEAKER_02And the one guy like really could not sing. The third trapper that would always add the third rate repeat is so bad.
SPEAKER_03But then they like they I don't they say that he can't sing.
SPEAKER_06They talk about him being flat, which reminds me of the uh the whole stuff I wonder if that inspired the stepbrother scene with my name. Oh, yes. He's like, okay, I'm gonna take us off. I can sing high like this. I'm gonna save this.
SPEAKER_02Well, then they have the music theory fight. Is that why you made me watch that the first time?
SPEAKER_06It might have been. I think it was because I was like, I do this to Leslie all the time, except I'm not it's more like dancing around. I'm just asking ignorant questions. But Mixolydian.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. They're arguing over like uh relative minors, and it's like, no, it's that's three steps down.
SPEAKER_06But technically it would have been a thirteenth of anything. How uh were you able to keep up?
SPEAKER_02Keep up with it? Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I figured you were.
SPEAKER_02That sounded like And I do think Mixolydian was da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, like flat seven. Oh gosh, it would I'm sure it was right. I they seem like they know exactly what they're doing.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Well, they went on to write, I think didn't Book of Mormon win like a Tony or something.
SPEAKER_02Well, I don't know if it won a Tony, but I'm wildly acclaimed.
SPEAKER_06We we're going to do probably at some point we're gonna do Team America on the show. We're gonna have to do we're gonna have to do South Park Bigger, Longer, Uncut. I love both those movies. They're very formative for me.
SPEAKER_02And then, oh, one thing I didn't mention was that he's telling the story.
SPEAKER_06Yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02He's telling the story to a woman and she's a reporter. So she uh so so basically Polly? Polly. Polly with a some other P like. Polly Pry?
SPEAKER_06Polly Pry's? Something like that.
SPEAKER_02Something like that. Anyway, so she uh she has a song because she's basically seems to be falling in love with Alfred Packer. Um so she has a great voice. Yeah, she's the most serious song of all the songs. But still not quite serious.
SPEAKER_06And with the exception of the uh the guy coming down the stairs.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_06It's like an extra, but he's a good one. It wasn't that funny, but it was uh I just love they they they were cutting their teeth and they were doing it super fast with this movie. Like they it's crazy that this is their first.
SPEAKER_02I kept thinking like if we knew these guys and then we they showed us this movie, we'd be we would be hyperventilated. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Exactly. It's well put yeah. I think having seen like pretty much all of their stuff now, yeah, uh it makes it even funnier. Yeah, just yeah, it's you get it's like you're growing up together. If you're a South Park fan or any kind of fan of Straight Park, yeah, you got you have to watch this movie.
SPEAKER_02Or alternately, alternatively, if you like musicals and parodies, you will appreciate this.
SPEAKER_06If you like um B movies, yeah, you will like this as well. This actually has way more appeal than you might think.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06It's also pretty funny. I don't know where else to where to fit this in the conversation, but we just got a OLED 77-inch C5 TV, a really nice TV. And like literally just unboxed it. The first thing we watched on it is something that's in like 480p.
SPEAKER_02And that was like, because we got this, it's like a uh upgrade from the one we had. So I'm like, are we gonna be able to tell a difference on this new TV? You were like, not in this movie. Uh okay, so then they get lost, they decide to get go against the advice of the Japanese and go ahead and cross the um Rockies in a terrible snowstorm.
SPEAKER_06Is that are they starting to think that maybe Alfred just wants to get his horse at this point?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're they're like, wait a second, you're just dragging us all over the place because you're looking for your horse.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And they say, watch out for the Cyclops.
SPEAKER_06Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02This guy was the
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I didn't I didn't look up who that was. I I need to.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so Trey Parker look, well, he's like what six.
SPEAKER_06I'd probably meant like five tennis, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then Matt Stone was a little taller than that.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02This guy was easily six eight. Six ten that played the Cyclops.
SPEAKER_06Or at least made out to be. He was huge. Yeah. He reminded me a little bit of the warden from Rookie O.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_06Didn't he?
SPEAKER_02I did not catch that at all.
SPEAKER_06Oh, but would you say? Or no?
SPEAKER_02I didn't feel that way. Anyways, go on. But some of the special effects for sure.
SPEAKER_06With his eye.
SPEAKER_02So he has no eye, and every time he talks, his eye squirts out. Over everybody. Like pus. It was very disgusting. And it made noise constantly. And how do they get rid of him?
SPEAKER_06I just thought I don't I I was trying to remember it. I was remembering what Humphrey was saying. Matt Stone just has great lines. I just thought about when he was talking to the Japanese guys and he was doing the translation. He's just like, he's saying, My name is I'm a carpenter. This is my brother Tom.
SPEAKER_02And the guy's like, you don't speak Japanese, or whatever. You don't understand the thing of the thing they're saying.
SPEAKER_06Don't talk anymore. Anyways, I don't remember what I don't uh I think they just run. Because he thinks they're from the south, and then they find they find it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, and they just run away from him.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then the one guy. So I I kept losing track. It's 1.1.
SPEAKER_06So we're gonna kill a sheep. They were gonna kill his lamb.
SPEAKER_02Eat his lamb, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Eat his lamb.
SPEAKER_02But one who got who got their leg caught in the bear trap?
SPEAKER_06That was uh Wells.
SPEAKER_02Now is he the one? He's not the one that was building the snowman.
SPEAKER_06No, that is I should remember his full name. It's three um because he says we could call the snowman whatever his name is, something Willis. Shannon Willis, Shannon Wells Brown or something like that. He's like, we can make him short or not so short.
SPEAKER_01Beowulf. Or not as tall.
SPEAKER_06We can make him short or not as tall. We could name Shannon Wilson Brown. Anyways. No. Yeah, those are the two guys who keep trying to put everybody in timeout. He's like, we warned you.
SPEAKER_00And then he did put something.
SPEAKER_06Let's go to timeout. And he's just like, he's got this some they never really explain his gut or why it doesn't go away when they're starving.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, that's true. And it's like he's like easily the most attractive one.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But they just but they have his shirt stuffed like a pregnant belly. Like a beer belly, really. So yeah, so they have a tap dancing scene in the snow. And then um I'm sorry. That's okay.
SPEAKER_06But Humphrey's like. When I say Humphrey, I mean Matt Stone and vice versa. At the kind of toward the end, he's like, I just thought of something. I just thought of something.
SPEAKER_05How did he make that tapping sound when he was dancing? Like, that's why we're starving to death, and that's what you had.
SPEAKER_02And then uh and then Alfred has a dream where he and the um the trapper trapper are ballet dancers. Which, if you've ever seen a ballet, is also like in ballet, they don't speak. And like I remember went to ballet camp a few times and we had a whole session on the hand motions and what they mean. And like they use the same ones in all ballets. So is it is it almost like if you have spread your arm out in front of you, it's like welcome. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Like a ballet sign language?
SPEAKER_02Yes, and so they have like a fight scene in the ballet in like a pretty accurate vocabulary symbol, I don't know, body language signs. So that's pretty funny. That was pretty funny to me.
SPEAKER_06No, that is. That's uh they get they they have some culture to them. Like they really did.
SPEAKER_02Um and then they all do you know what a reprise is?
SPEAKER_06Um It's like when a theme comes back.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's another thing they did is they used the musical themes for all the characters. So you would hear the fur trapper song when the fur trappers were on. And you would hear the um schpadwinkle day at various times. Well then they hate it.
SPEAKER_06By the way, I love the way they use schpadwinkle for like everything.
SPEAKER_02Like it's a bad word, it's a good word. He's like falling, he's running and he falls, he's like also so they have like that all I'm asking for song, but then they they're all like dying and they sing a very brief.
SPEAKER_06Yes, kind of all together like in a uh kind of uh death march sort of.
SPEAKER_02And then you can describe the rest because I stopped taking notes as I couldn't breathe anymore after that.
SPEAKER_06Um Shannon Willis Bell. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, that was it. Oh, Bell was sorry, I was looking up this the let's build a snowman. Um so, anyways, yeah, they get they they dance, and then he wakes up and is that about the time when he starts to try to dance again, and then the guy shoots him. Yes, because after he builds a snowman. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And he starts But he comes back later to start building another snowman.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then the guy can't take it. The guy with the bear trap leg can't take it anymore, and he shoots Wells, I think.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Wells and Bell.
SPEAKER_02Is that I don't know I truly never caught any of them.
SPEAKER_06I think that's it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Um so he shoots him and kills him, and then they eat him. And they're like carrying his body parts around, they're like half-eaten brain. Oh my gosh, his half-eaten brain.
SPEAKER_06He's just sitting around.
SPEAKER_03Carrying it like a baby.
SPEAKER_06Like a hollowed-out human with a beard. Yeah, mystery.
SPEAKER_03He looks like a paper mache.
SPEAKER_06I love when they when they first start eating them. I mean, first of all, you got Matt Stone is basically just like sitting, he's just always has a different body part in his face, like eating like a every time. But he's like, Well, what he refuses to eat the shoes because like, yeah, they're gross. You put your feet in them.
SPEAKER_02Then he's eating his butt.
SPEAKER_06He's like, Where do you want me to cut it? He's like, You're the butcher, butch. And he's like, cutting off his butt. He's like, Why are you cutting his butt off?
SPEAKER_02He's like, Well, what do you want? He's like, not butt.
SPEAKER_05Not the butt.
SPEAKER_02So then they decide they're starving and that they're gonna um well they they want to sacrifice one of them so they can keep eating.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And he's like, Don't do that. I'm gonna go find I'm I'm Breckenridge is just over this next ridge. So he goes up to see, and of course, like they show the map, and he like goes completely the completely wrong direction. He comes back and they're all dead except for one. The bear trap leg I guess is still one that's still alive.
SPEAKER_06Yes.
SPEAKER_02And then they have that's when they have their fight scene where he just won't die.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, a butcher dive to the face, a cleaver to the face, you got a uh gunshot to the head, you have a pickaxe to the heart, you have a stick to the eye.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_06And then how does he ultimately he never dies? I guess he just kind of comes back. He's like at the very, very end. He's at the very last scene.
SPEAKER_02So then they flash forward back to real life, and they're like, We're gonna hang you. You know, you're convicted of all this murder and cannibalism. They uh get ready to hang him, and then Polly comes back, and she's the one that's like technicality can't be tried for this crime because it happened before Colorado was a state.
SPEAKER_06Mm-hmm. That all that all happens within like a second. How are they gonna end this movie? Because we had to pause it because Caroline came home. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02We're saying five, seven minutes left.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And that's that was the group number, hang the Hang the Bastard. Hang the Bastard, yeah. We could say that. We could say it.
SPEAKER_06I was like, I like it has a cowbell solo in it, too. I wonder if that inspired the uh um Farrell? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Saturday Night Live.
SPEAKER_06Bruce Dickens said Blue Oyster cult.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so um anyway, it was top tier.
SPEAKER_06Yes, did you enjoy it?
SPEAKER_02I did. I feel confidently that that is a a Napoleon dynamite for me, where the more you watch it, the more it just imprints on your soul.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah. It has a huge cult following.
SPEAKER_02I gotta get my friend Renee to watch it. I think she'll hate it and love it. Should because she's very into musicals. Uh she's not as into, I don't think, like spoof silliness. But I think because of how well it parodies like Oklahoma and stuff like that, I think she'll I think she'll like it.
SPEAKER_06You think Aaron would like it? We could try to sell an element tonight.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we can. Let's try.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Cassie would hate it.
SPEAKER_06Would she? Yeah. Just uh no well, how would your mom feel about this? Would she be able to get through it?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. She's always surprising me, so I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_06I'm going, I I know I asked you a question, and I'm just I can I just I wrote down some quotes in no particular order.
SPEAKER_02Please do.
SPEAKER_06Um She certainly is a Spadoical horse. That was You're cutting into his butt? Yeah. Well what kind of piece do you want? Oh yeah, that's the whole we already covered that. Uh you put your feet in those shoes. I'm a carpenter. My brother, this is my brother Tom. I'm gonna oh he's like, I'm gonna eat this guy in front of you.
SPEAKER_05And he's like, he's serious.
SPEAKER_03He like puts his mouth on his neck like he's gonna do it.
SPEAKER_06I don't know why that stuff makes me laugh so hard. It's so stupid. I guess that's why. Um uh I was always as gentle as I could be. Oh, that was part of the song. Yeah. Um when they're standing in front of the river. He's like, How deep is it?
SPEAKER_02What is that supposed to prove?
SPEAKER_06He says, uh, oh, shucks know. Shucky darn darn.
SPEAKER_02I feel like we've said that. We didn't even know where that came from. Yeah, we do.
SPEAKER_06Shucky darn darn. I love the go to time out, and then the other guy's like, we warned you.
SPEAKER_02And he tries to sit down, they're like farther, 20 feet. Turn around.
SPEAKER_06It's like turn around more. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I I guess that's uh I'll think of 50 other things that I wanted to bring up. I'll have the the tiny Tim random cameo and the Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01God bless us, everyone.
SPEAKER_06And then they zoom, but they go back and he's not there anymore. What do they do the is he dead? Uh tickle his armpits. Tickle his armpits to see if he's really just a lot of great, a lot of great lines. I this I will definitely watch this this movie again. Uh highly recommend it. Um, not the great, it's not their greatest work, but it is if you like their stuff, you have to watch this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yes. You will appreciate it uh with a hindsight perspective.
SPEAKER_06Yes. Epsol.
Mashup Choice And Theme Song Nostalgia
SPEAKER_02All right.
SPEAKER_06Shall we continue on to talk about our ultimate mashup? Super. I don't know. Do you know why I chose to mash up these songs? I think I wanted to do different strokes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And I really wanted to do David the Gnome, too.
SPEAKER_02Do you know that I never have really watched Different Strokes? Is that what you're talking about, Willis?
SPEAKER_06Yes.
SPEAKER_02Okay. I don't think I've ever read it.
SPEAKER_06What you talking about, Willis. Yeah. What did I say? It was well, it was originally what are you talking about, Willis? But the way Gary Coleman said it, he's the one who kind of made it. What you talking about? No, uh Todd Bridges is Willis.
SPEAKER_02Okay. So I was thinking Different Strokes was moving on up for a while.
SPEAKER_06Oh no, it's the Jefferson.
SPEAKER_02Right, I know that now. Now that I've learned the song.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, I guess that is again another but another theme song that kind of explains the premise of the show.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yes.
SPEAKER_06Like yeah, I I just love it. It's cheesy, but it's great. I love it.
David The Gnome Origins And Lyrics
SPEAKER_02So yeah, we did a mashup of David the Gnome and different strokes. The TV theme songs.
SPEAKER_06Yes. David the Gnome.
SPEAKER_02Cartoon from the 80s?
SPEAKER_06The 80s.
SPEAKER_02And what network played that?
SPEAKER_06Dude. So this is this is made from a Dutch book.
SPEAKER_02Spanish brought to life.
SPEAKER_06And then picked up by a Spanish company, BRB, I believe was the name of the company. Taiwanese animation with an American adaptation.
SPEAKER_02It did feel kind of uh not ju not gib not anime, but like it felt I don't know, the animation.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it does a certain animation quality. It's kinda a little g uh ghibbly.
SPEAKER_02I just thought that the mouths didn't match up because they were dubbed over in English.
SPEAKER_06No, it's because it was in Spanish. Oh yes. Well, yeah, oh I see what you're saying. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02But that's a thing they do in in that I guess I've even when I'm watching subtitled anime, it doesn't look like their mouths are quite pronouncing the words. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I don't to watch a lot of it. You mean I could never Oh you just animation in general? Yeah, my I Anyway. Respect for animators.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_06Yes, cartoonists and the like.
SPEAKER_02But you're yeah, I d I now that you say that it has some far east influence in the animation.
SPEAKER_06So it was a du but a du it was Dutch, and I don't know all there's so many there's so many spinoffs and inspirations and all this stuff. But yeah, Dutch, and it was like the book sounds actually kind of cool. It was like a book. They used to sell it under folklore in the nonfiction section for some reason, apparently, according to the according to my research. And it was more of like a it was the kind of book that like me and Clark would like, where or Clark and I rather, uh, where like a lot of facts. You remember in the in the we watched the first episode of David of the World of David the No. Yes. And you know they're kind he's kind of going through and saying we are this, we're this tall. Yes. We're we weigh this much, which by the way, Lisa looks like she weighs a lot more than David. I don't know what they're doing there.
SPEAKER_02Well, men and men do have a bit more dense magic.
SPEAKER_06That's that's true. That's true. They don't tend to be a little full of things. We don't know how much magic weighs.
SPEAKER_02That's true.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Um and then they're talking about like the different gnomes, like the Siberian one and the that whole book, that's like how that whole book was, apparently. It was almost written like an anatomical.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like an encyclopedia of gnomes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Which kind of sounds cool.
SPEAKER_02Uh I'm not probably not gonna go out and read it, but I've I've had a few books like that in my possession in my life that always seem kind of cool, but then you're like, why it's good toilet. This isn't real toilet reading. So I'm not gonna read something that doesn't have a fascinating story about it, along with it. Like, don't tell me I gotcha. Only tell me the facts if it affects the story. Like I need to know how big their wings are if it makes a difference in the plot. Well that's how I feel.
SPEAKER_06I I s I I I get it.
SPEAKER_02But I also did not like reading books to our son every single day.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, see, I'm I'm I I I see why you're saying all that. I don't necessarily agree with it. I love the Marvel encyclopedia that covers every single character, and all their all their traits, everything they could do, like all the stat lines. That is catnip for me. Yeah. So this, you know This is right up your alley. I like I f I'm a little bit more into Marvel than I am um gnomes.
SPEAKER_02Gnomes, Dutch folklore, Dutch folklore, the stats on Dutch folklore slash Spanish slash Taiwanese slash Harvey Wide State. So but what but what network here in America broadcasts that show?
SPEAKER_06Nick Jr.
SPEAKER_02Oh, then that's why I never saw it.
SPEAKER_06I was thinking of a I'm like, why didn't I? Because I this is a show I remember wanting to watch, and I'm thinking, why didn't I watch this more? Because I again I think kind of like Taxi. We talked about Taxi, the completely different show. But we talked about Taxi and how much on Nickelodeon. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That you discovered.
SPEAKER_06Well, different strokes too. Like I a lot all these shows I love because of the theme song. And I I I definitely watched some Different Strokes, but I and I watched some David the Gnome, but I was trying to think like why didn't I watch more David the Gnome? Why like I remember when G.I. Joe was on, I would make a point to get up and watch G.I. Joe in the morning.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I don't I don't remember thinking, oh, David the Gnome is on at such a and I didn't know it was called David the Gnome, and I was I was sitting there thinking, this is kind of far out, but I was like, I was probably at the age where my memories were forming, but I wasn't literate. And also they don't say David the Gnome anywhere in the theme song. So it's just like it's the show that has this infectious melody that I really like. Which is by the way, basically basically the 50s chord progression, essentially.
SPEAKER_02Which but it's drawn out, it's longer.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and it goes into the the bridge.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06It's it's a but it is the variation. I mean, I played the first when we when we did that theme song, the the chords are this exact same. I anyways. But I just thought like, have you ever tried to have a memory where you know you were you had words in front of you, but you didn't know what they were?
SPEAKER_02Yes. I have that memory distinctly with Walt Disney.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_02Because as I was learning my letters, I wondered why it ended with a P.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah. Okay. And then Bob Evans, I thought it starts with a uh a G.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yes. Uh and then Bob Evans. What a what a G I had Bob Evans in my head just as a picture, like the white script of Bob Evans. But then again, when I started learning to read and I was like looking at it actually as having letters, I thought it was B-O-L-E. Like at the Bob, the second B looks like an L and an E instead of a Bob. Sorry, a low. Yes. And I was like, why is everybody calling it Bob Evans if it's Bowl Evans?
SPEAKER_06It's like a kernel colonel thing.
SPEAKER_02Yes. So I definitely remember learning to read on those two particular fonts. I remember thinking of them as like pictures and then being able to read, actually see the word, see the letters.
SPEAKER_06Gotcha. Yeah. So that was you, you're kind of in that that transition.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. I uh I don't know. I'm fat back to the whole thing about me over-explaining things to kids. I'm just like absolutely fascinated by the way children think and what we take for granted and how we forget the kind of how you used to think. How you used to think, that whole curse of knowledge.
SPEAKER_02How you have had to think because you couldn't read or whatever.
SPEAKER_06So it's just like when you say something to a kid, you know, there's obvious reasons you don't have to explain everything, which I need to learn. However, like if you tell a kid that, you know, Santa Claus is coming to town, they're gonna build their entire life around that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, if you tell a kid that that underwear is gonna turn you into a transformer.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02Please tell that we're just all over the place. Please. It's relevant.
SPEAKER_06When I was a little kid, I was watching uh I was just you know, some sometime in the 80s. I was watching a there was a commercial that came on, kid had transformer underwear, and he he puts on the transformer underwear. Obviously, not a lot of this was shown. This wasn't a I don't think this was a Harvey Weinstein produced uh commercial. Well, Harvey Weinstein produced the gnomes, that's why I keep bringing it up. I think he's his idea was to put him in the bathtub in the beginning.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because it's a casual because it's casual nude.
SPEAKER_06He's like, You want Lisa's like, not my beat it outfit. That's terrible. Okay, anyways, so uh kid was putting on underwear, his he turns into Optimus Prime. His mom's knocking on the door, and he's like, Oh, just a minute, mom.
SPEAKER_02And then he takes his underwear off. So he turns back.
SPEAKER_06I don't remember all that, but I just remember thinking, I want I want that. I want that. I want that. I was uh I want that little boy's underwear. I was a little boy, so it was okay. Um so I had my mom take me to Ross dressed for less. Or maybe she was going and I wanted to go too.
SPEAKER_02She was probably like, uh yeah, let's go.
SPEAKER_06So I'm like, I'm looking for Transformer Underwear. Don't find it. I find Mickey underwear, and I just remember doing like the math. I'm like, it's not really what I want, but it's still be cool to turn into Mickey. I put those freaking things on, don't turn into Mickey. That was like one of my freaking of the end for you. It was the beginning of the end for me. I really kind of was. It was like, okay. Like I became I slowly became very disenchanted with life after that point.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Like for like for a very long time, I just got further and further and further into it. And now it's like, okay, I see there are, you know, I'm I'm on the upswing.
SPEAKER_02But to your point where it was like you forget what it's like to be a kid where you can't read and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_06Like, do you think that they were like kids will believe that they can turn into and they're gonna want this, but the parents aren't gonna remember what it's like to want that like and so they're gonna buy it for them and nobody's you know but every time like somebody this is I I'm not saying this is such a strange soapbox, but every time I hear because I'm you know, I work for the school, so every time I have to hear about vaping all the time. Watermelon flavors and blah blah blah blah. They're obviously advertising to kids. I just want to be like, let's start with the underwear commercials.
SPEAKER_00Have you guys forgotten about that?
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah, pedophiles. No, I mean telling kids they're gonna turn into awesome godlike creatures if they put underwear on. It's such a and it sounds like I'm it sounds like I'm kidding. I am a little. But nothing. But I am actually getting myself sort of pissed.
SPEAKER_00It's kind of worked up.
unknownA little worked up.
SPEAKER_06You can't win, basically. You just have to you just have to use it.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, the theme song for David the Gnome is beautiful.
SPEAKER_06That's what you get. Yeah. It is. I love it. It might be why I like 50s music. Then I'd listen to a ton of.
SPEAKER_0250s music as a kid, but like I don't I know that you're correct. Like I can look at the music and say, yes, you are right, it does follow that. However, it feels way more cinematic, epic. Yeah. It's sweeping.
SPEAKER_06This is what I mean, real quick. I'm just gonna say, so in the beginning, it's and I don't think they're not gonna sue us for this. Uh let me look. Can you look his name up while I while I do this? The guy who composed the song. He did both the Spanish version and the English version. Which by the way, the lyrics are so different. Please remind me to talk about that.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_06So it's uh look around you.
SPEAKER_05There are many things to see. Dun dun dun dun. Boom boom boom boom.
SPEAKER_06Right?
SPEAKER_02So that is But uh I like to be Claud Claudio Byrne Boyd. Is that sound right?
SPEAKER_06I thought it was like love. Like start with an L. I don't know. Uh no, that's the singer. You're talking about the singer.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Good, pretty good singer. Or uh This is my story.
SPEAKER_02Javier Losada.
SPEAKER_06Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Or do do do do cover, do, do, do cover.
SPEAKER_06It's the same same chord progression the whole time as David the Gnome.
SPEAKER_05But where it gets different is the Troll uh Trolls and Witches and Fairy. Yeah, and then it's B minor. Yes.
SPEAKER_06But it's still is that diatonic? Is that still diatonic? Am I saying that right?
SPEAKER_02Yep. Diatonic means It's the minor three of G.
SPEAKER_06It's all in there, it's not a flat something or something.
SPEAKER_02There's nothing in there that's barrowed or anything.
SPEAKER_06But I think that's where it that's where it picks up. Then it has it's kind of driving.
SPEAKER_02It's only 26 episodes.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. It's got a very never-ending story kind of uh groove to it.
SPEAKER_02Yes, it does. That's true.
SPEAKER_06Um 26 episodes. You know the last episode? I'm gonna spoil the series. It was super heavy, like considered to be like one of like the ultimate, like it's on some crazy like Nick Jr. saddest story uh episode.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh, I'm reading about it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Go ahead and read.
SPEAKER_02Uh you want me to say it, or do you they know they will not live past the age of 400 years.
SPEAKER_06So when we were watching it, we saw three they're 399. I was thinking, like, I think they only live to be 400. How are they gonna like chills? Yeah. So, anyways, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02So they know they're not gonna live that long. Mr.
SPEAKER_06Cunningham from Happy Days is about to die.
SPEAKER_02Um explaining that they have to go say goodbye. So they travel to the Blue Mountains um and they tell the fox that he can't come with them. Yeah. And then they go up to their mountain and say their final goodbyes, and as they die, their bodies turn into intertwined apple trees. And then Casper, who's Casper?
SPEAKER_06Casper, I think, is the okay. I think he I think he's like the new David the gnome.
SPEAKER_02Well, Casper passes moments later after muttering to himself, it turns into an oak tree.
Childhood Belief And Underwear Ads
SPEAKER_06No, no, Casper's one of their friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02There's a new So they find out Cas the So the an Arctic mouse comes and tells Lisa and David that he that Casper is needs to die, but he doesn't want to do it by themselves. So they go with him and they all die together.
SPEAKER_06Dude.
SPEAKER_02Oh, why don't he love me, manchills?
SPEAKER_06Serious. Uh we need to move on. It fits right into the theme of our uh lyrics. Okay, real real quick, can I just uh the lyrics? Yeah. I the the the look up the Spanish version if you like the the American version. Just anybody, just in general, if you like the American version of the song. By the way, um are we doing covers and whatnot of this song? I have a character.
SPEAKER_02There's one thing I couldn't come up with, but I have some other stuff, yes.
SPEAKER_06The Spanish version is like this old I I didn't look up his name, I apologize. But it's it's Soyo Nomo. I saw that. I am feliz. But basically it's I'm a no I am a gnome, and here in the forest I'm happy. I live under a tree next to its root. I am a gnome. Pretty nice so far. And just by looking, everything you think, I can guess. I'm seven times stronger than you. I'm very fast. I'm always in a good mood. I'm the oldest of the place. I use herbs that I know. What I can cure.
SPEAKER_02What does that mean? I use herbs.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_06In this song, he talks about being stronger, seven times stronger than them. Uh, three times.
SPEAKER_02It's a little preachy.
SPEAKER_06He's stupid, yeah. He's got a lot of things. I mean, the episode we watched is a little preachy. Oh, I love humans. Uh hey, welcome me every time you come into the forest, you screw it up, you freaking animals.
SPEAKER_02Leave a bunch of trash, you pieces of trash. You are trash. It's basically how he talks. He's like, but we're so glad you're talking about it.
SPEAKER_06But I love everyone as he's naked. Welcome to my bathtub.
SPEAKER_02Except for the poor trolls. Or the is that what they are?
SPEAKER_06The trolls. Yeah. Yeah, the stupid trolls. They're one of the dumbest creatures ever made. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Whoa, buddy. Thought you loved everyone.
SPEAKER_06This surgery where we both honestly thought he might go up in his butt.
SPEAKER_00He took all his clothes off. He took his clothes off. For no reason.
SPEAKER_06I guess he didn't want to get blood on it, but there wasn't any blood. No. We watched the first episode for the.
SPEAKER_02He does two surgeries. So anyway.
SPEAKER_06Do you so do let's talk about uh real quick on categories.
SPEAKER_02Well, I I only have one Oh for the whole thing. I did it as a c as a I did some individuals. Okay.
SPEAKER_06I I did so for my B side to this song. I in fact I almost I thought of this later. I thought this would actually have been a better mashup, but I did uh Octopus's Garden.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_06Because it's the same chord progression for well, you know, for the verses and I like TV. And it's got it's got that fun whimsy. Very much. I I this is a confession. The B side's corner.
SPEAKER_02I didn't get a B side. That's what I lacked.
SPEAKER_06It's okay. Confession's Corner, I think Octopus's Garden might be, if not my favorite Beatles song, top five.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You should probably blot that out. Blot that out.
SPEAKER_06It's gonna make a lot of people mad. The audience won't like it. Um, my dream cover, I want to hear the moody blues do it.
SPEAKER_01Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_06Like Moody Blues from like the uh uh Dennis Dennis and he won't be sing once upon a time. Like their later stuff or vision, you know. I think they would I would love to listen to Moody Blues cover this. Okay. I want to hear them do like a 15-minute version of it with like talking like they do in um Tuesday afternoon. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Tuesday.
SPEAKER_06Oh, I also just thought El Nomo. I I was reminded of um Oh, I heard there's a metal cover of this I've listened to called from a c a band called Armory.
SPEAKER_02Is that what you were listening to the other day? To me that sounded like a video game sound.
SPEAKER_06Well, yeah, but it was it was it was pretty metal. I mean they had like it was like it'd be like old, like Sabbath kind of metal. Yeah, but maybe like more like Iron Maiden, like just kind of very a lot of quality instrumentation, and I don't want to make it sound like it was a masterpiece, but it was pretty good. And I listened to a guy named Earl Baton do it uh on acoustic, and it was it was charming. He did a good job. He'll he'll get the nobody award.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Actually, our armor soundtrack. No, well, no, I just thought we I wouldn't do a soundtrack because this is it is a soundtrack. This is the soundtrack. But uh I was thinking El Nomo reminded me of El Nino, Chris Farley. That uh the Nino.
SPEAKER_05For those who don't ob the wisp unnomo is Spanish for The Nomo.
SPEAKER_06The Nomo.
SPEAKER_01All right, move on. Different strokes.
SPEAKER_06Different strokes, uh, written by our boy Alan Thick Canadian songwriting hall of famer. Do you know that?
SPEAKER_02I did not know any of that stuff. I knew it was a songwriting.
SPEAKER_06He wrote a lot of stuff, a lot of compositions. He wrote the original Wheel of Fortune.
SPEAKER_02Really?
SPEAKER_06Which is not the down don-do-do-do-do. It's even before that. It was called like Wheels.
SPEAKER_02Um why'd the heck they change it?
SPEAKER_06It's just people change, man. Shh. You know? Um, I don't remember the name of it.
SPEAKER_02We tried to change, but so far we haven't been able to.
SPEAKER_06He did uh would try to change what?
SPEAKER_03How long this podcast is gonna be.
SPEAKER_06Don't talk about it. Every time you say it, it makes me uh I I'm stressed that I'm hurting you, and then I uh I lose my I lose my my charm.
SPEAKER_02So keep your pain to yourself so that I can continue to do what I want. Is that what you meant?
SPEAKER_06That's all I'm asking. That's all I'm asking for. I don't want to do anything anymore.
SPEAKER_04That's all I'm asking for.
SPEAKER_06Uh so yeah, he did uh he did the Wizard of Oz, odds, rather, not The Wizard of Oz. The Joker's Wild, he was big in game shows. He hosted game shows, he also wrote for game shows.
SPEAKER_02What a great niche for him.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Uh Celebrity Sweepstakes, the Diamond Head game, blank check, Stumpers, Woo, Animal Crack Ups. Co-wrote with his brother Todd Thick.
SPEAKER_02What that's a heck of a last name.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yes, it is. My goodness, yes, it is. Uh yeah, Big Wheels was kind of like a jazzy. It's like it's worth checking out. It was the original Wheel of Fortune from uh 75 to 83. And then Hello Larry, he did that, which is kind of a spinoff of I think Different Strokes. Maybe Different Strokes. Uh Hello Larry, the the music is great. The it's it's not, I don't think the show did very well. Um I watched the theme song though, I kind of liked it. But he did Facts of Life as well. You remember that show?
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah, but I've never seen it.
SPEAKER_06That was a spinoff of Different Strokes. Mrs. Garrett, who's like the housekeeper in Where They Live with um with uh Conrad Bain. What the heck is Mr. Drummond. Um, anyways, that he his wife saying that, Gloria Loring.
SPEAKER_02So were those like adopted kids?
SPEAKER_06Oh, Arnold and Willis?
SPEAKER_02On different strokes.
SPEAKER_06Yes.
SPEAKER_02So the What's the premise of the show?
SPEAKER_06The premise of the show is that uh Mr. Drummond is a wealthy businessman.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh. Like Daddy Warbox.
SPEAKER_06Kinda. He's like a president of some.
SPEAKER_02He's like, give me a child for Christmas.
SPEAKER_06His m I think it's his housekeeper dies, so her boys are left alone. They live in Harlem.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_06And he adopts them.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_06Takes them into and and hit he has a daughter, her, and that's played by Dana Play-Doh.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_06And and it's uh P-L-A-Y-D-A-L. T-L-A-T-O.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_06Like uh She's not the She had a very she had a true tough, she had a tough go. She's dead. She can come to our conversation.
SPEAKER_02Death by Play-Doh?
SPEAKER_06Like uh P L A Y D-O-U-G-H. It's just D-O. Like she just overdosed on Play Doh.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I already spelled it. It's worthless. I don't think that's it's fine.
SPEAKER_06She's got a heck of a she's got a heartbreaking story. Um yeah.
SPEAKER_02She uh Child fame is in more happy.
SPEAKER_06She's a she's a and Todd Bridges didn't either, although he's I think I think he's okay now, but he got hooked on like cracking uppers and downers and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_02Judy Garland style.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, look into both both of their stories are don't you know what?
SPEAKER_02How about in addition to looking into that, don't put your child in film.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, or at least teach him that there's something more to life after the show gets cancelled. Because I think both of them just fell off the deep end. Um Gary Coleman had a bit of a he had a rough run too. He the fame got to his head. He had uh what, nephritis? That that kidney kidney condition that caused him to.
SPEAKER_02Didn't he also have kind of a uh a comeback, but it wasn't a great one with the VH1 stuff?
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was um he was terrible on the set to people. He had a ter horrible reputation. He was a huge.
SPEAKER_02As a child?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, well, he was I think he was like 16 or something like that.
SPEAKER_02So a 16-year-old's a child.
SPEAKER_06No, but when the show started. Like he looked like he was like, Right. That was like his deal. He was um Yeah, Manuel Lewis or what what if what what would you say between. Well, I never you never really watched it. No, I can't weigh in on it. So you couldn't, you wouldn't, you can't stack him on the case. Was Alan Thick on the fish on the fly? Uh Alan Thick was not on this show.
SPEAKER_02Is he on step by step?
SPEAKER_06No. That was Alan's Growing Pains? Uh Growing Pains, yeah. Yeah, okay. I got there. He was Jason Seaver.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_06With uh Leonardo DiCaprio. Um but anyways, I love this theme song. It's one of my favorite theme songs ever. I listened to Boys to Men cover it.
SPEAKER_02Oh my goodness. Now, did they did they uh what's that word? Syncopate it up. Um it was they keep it straight.
SPEAKER_06It was pretty straight. They had uh they had uh singers in the back. It was only two of them. Ah I don't know which ones, I'm not a big boy to men guy, but it was great.
SPEAKER_02One of them was named Wanya.
SPEAKER_06It was really good. It might have been Wayne. I don't actually know if that's a Wayne.
SPEAKER_02It was W-A-N-Y-E.
SPEAKER_06W-A-N-Y-E. Yeah, I feel like honestly, Wanya might have been there. Yeah. There was a dude, uh, a dude named Jack Black.
SPEAKER_02I saw not the Jack Black though, right?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, what is the Jack Black? Oh he was a he did a cover of it, but it was just like an Instagram kind of thing. It wasn't that I mean, it was it wasn't that great.
SPEAKER_02Dude, I could listen to Jack Black do anything.
SPEAKER_06I mean, if you're a Jack Black fan of Different Strokes fan, maybe it's worth watching. But he's just singing in a cappella and just kind of being a goofball. I the nobody award, I'm gonna go to. There's a ton of people covering this song, just a ton of amateurs. The nobody award who I give to people who with less than 50,000 subscribers, I will give that to Michelle Zela Music.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_06She's uh acoustic guitar, she's got a great voice. She really uh she really whips the meals behind.
SPEAKER_02Does she? With a belt?
SPEAKER_06With a belt.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Good for you, Michelle.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, so she's she's worth checking out. Check her out.
SPEAKER_02All right.
SPEAKER_06Um cover? Who do I want to see cover the song?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I had one. I don't remember what it was. I remember thinking, that's great. I won't forget it. I know better. You did forget it. I did. But I'm I'm I'm glad with the one I picked. I'm gonna go with the Almond Brothers.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_06I think the Almond Brothers would do a sick cover of this song. Um, it's got it has so much potential. By the way, this is one of those tunes that was all it was on long enough that they had three different versions of it. And like the more and more as if as you watch all three versions, if you sit there and watch all three of them back to back to back, like I did, you see Alan Thick becomes more pronounced. Like he's it's his part is just really really loud, and then you gotta and then you got a lot more electric guitar, too. I think I still like the original better.
SPEAKER_02So you're saying that they episode.
SPEAKER_06I like the gospel kind of groove of it. Yeah. The the last one's pretty good too.
SPEAKER_02And then in the middle, but they kind of become more and more so they were re-recording, we're just using the original. I guess. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06That's kind of a it was kind of a common thing back then. Because I remember seeing the same thing with uh perfect strangers.
SPEAKER_02We need to redo this, guys, for season five.
SPEAKER_06Well, because they do they redo the credits and everything too. Full House did it too. Although that might have just been an edit.
SPEAKER_02Doobie-doo-pa.
SPEAKER_06I think they might have yeah, whatever.
SPEAKER_02Um B-side?
SPEAKER_06B side. I'm gonna go with Stroking. Clarence Carter.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, how could you not?
SPEAKER_06I mean, I gotta have first of all, I do love Clarence Carter and uh I love absurdity.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_06And we'll play on the theme of strokes. Did you get a soundtrack or did you just quit on the I shared a soundtrack with you, but I don't think it's Oh, right.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, probably not. So I did mine as a It's a compilation. Compilation. Minus. Oh. I did mine as the two songs together.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_02So I only had uh I so I had one only one answer for both songs as if they were together. And I did, as you were talking, you reminded me of something, and I did get to come up with a B side. But my cover, I think John Prime could do of different strokes? Of the two songs together.
SPEAKER_06Oh, like we did, of course. Like you just said, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Okay, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because he could really do the um The David the No, David No.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah. And I think pure prime.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Prime, prime prime.
SPEAKER_06Prime time.
SPEAKER_02Uh and I think he could do the different strokes.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I would like to listen to a little singer-songwriter gritty take on that.
SPEAKER_02And then I did actually as you were sitting here, I was thinking the first couple, like the first three tracks of Sergeant Pepper bleed into one another. But they're not a lot they're not the same. Like each song is pretty standalone. And I feel like the B side of these two songs together could be the first three tracks of Sergeant Pepper together.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah. Uh like, yeah, there's a lot of concept albums like that. But uh I was listening to uh I love Sergeant Pepper.
SPEAKER_02I think it's Dark Side. I think that's my favorite album. David Beatles album.
SPEAKER_06Sergeant Pepper. Yeah. That's a tough call.
SPEAKER_02It's mine.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I think it's great.
SPEAKER_02I might you said Octopus's Gardner is a tough one.
SPEAKER_06That's on Abbey Road, by the way, and that might also be my favorite album.
SPEAKER_02So uh then I do have a soundtrack.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah, go.
SPEAKER_02For both of those together. For both of those together. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yes. What what is it?
SPEAKER_02I think. Do you remember the more recent later um Barbie show that was like funny and ridiculous?
SPEAKER_06You're not talking about the movie, right?
SPEAKER_02Not the stupid fairy topia crap, but like Barbie's Dream House, Life in the Dream House.
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_02You never watched any of those things?
SPEAKER_06I don't think so.
SPEAKER_02Oh, they're like Barbie, but they're like making fun of it's almost like they're making fun of Barbie.
SPEAKER_06Like kids can watch it, but parents are like we're not talking about Ryan Gosling and Margot Robbie. We're talking about the bigger. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_02Like there's it's like computer animated, I think it's called Barbie Life in the Dreamhouse. Life in the Dream House or something like that.
SPEAKER_06That sounds kind of familiar.
SPEAKER_02And they're kind of like ridiculous. Like the silly stuff happens, like her dream house talks, and it like traps her inside in one of the episodes, like in the closet, and like Ken is super stupid. He's always doing saying dumb stuff.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02But it's like not quite enough to where kids are like confused.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I just think that could I could just I could make that work. Barbie life in the dream house. Nice. My final answer.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_02So good. Alright.
SPEAKER_06Not bad.
SPEAKER_02You hungry?
SPEAKER_06I'm not as hungry. I drank a shake right before uh right before we recorded. So I'm uh I'm okay.
SPEAKER_02I'm hungry.
SPEAKER_06Are you? You wanna you wanna get on with the day?
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna get on with the day.
SPEAKER_06I have uh I have some cardboard to uh to burn.
SPEAKER_02It's only 11 30 4.
SPEAKER_06Well, look at that. I'm sure I'm not gonna look at my notes again, but I'm sure there's a million other things I wanted to say, but you know what? This is perfect to perfect.
Final Picks And Where To Watch
SPEAKER_02It was. Can't see it, but it looks like an hour. Can't see what it says.
SPEAKER_06Can you? Guys, uh check out our uh YouTube channel.
SPEAKER_02If you're listening to us, you can go watch us on YouTube if you want to hear us sing David the Gnome and uh different strokes.
SPEAKER_06That'll well, I didn't sing, I just played piano, but if you want to you help me a lot with the like how to do it, how to transition. How to transition. You're like keep okay, you end on that G, it's the same G you want to start different strokes. So let's move to because I was gonna do different strokes first, um, and then do David the Gnome. You're like, well, you I was talking about how hard it was on the to get to find that G because I had to start high and then sing in a lower register for the bridge and all this stuff I don't know about. And you're like, do this, do this, do this. Honey, it's a way to help you. Music therapy.
SPEAKER_02But if you want to see us do that, it's on YouTube.
SPEAKER_06Yes.
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SPEAKER_02It's gonna be so cute. Happy birthday, Uncle Dan.
SPEAKER_06Happy birthday, Uncle Dan.
SPEAKER_02Bye.