The Audience Won't Like It
Married hosts Rob and Leslie Shoecraft invite you into their closet (literally) for a podcast that’s equal parts nostalgia trip, music nerd-out, and absurd banter. Born from a joke about how the audience probably won’t like it, the show leans into that spirit—riffing on everything from Star Trek episodes and Kitty Wells deep cuts, to feet, crockpots, and cover songs that live on YouTube thanks to copyright.
Each week, the conversation drifts like two people killing time in line for a concert—unexpected, hilarious, and sometimes strangely profound. Future episodes explore growing up in the 80s and 90s, The Dollhouse Murders, “5 of 5” and borrowed chords in music theory, bodybuilding meal prep, Wu-Tang Clan, Gordon Lightfoot, Alan Thicke, Herb Alpert, and whatever other rabbit holes pop up along the way.
If you like side tangents, forgotten pop culture, and covers of songs your mom might love, you might just find that you do like it after all.
The Audience Won't Like It
80s/90s Media Memories: Fears, Firsts & She's Leaving Home (Beatles) | Ep 26
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Cold Open And Theme Song Chaos
SPEAKER_02On this episode of The Audience Will Like It. There's a lot of people who have uh don't have a problem with uh kissing dead bodies do have a problem killing ladybugs.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Happened this morning. Rob made me watch the I don't know, was it like the opening scene of Robocop? I literally got I woke my eyes woke up at 8.06. And at 8 17, Rob was like, you need to watch this murder scene. Watching this. I now I know why you made me get up and watch something within 10 minutes of opening my eyes. Uh first movie or show that made you aware of the opposite sex. First time you read Or Josh Brolin. Or Josh Brolin.
SPEAKER_00Have you ever have you ever you've heard this song?
SPEAKER_04If you're a mother and you've heard this song and you relate to the mother, you need it to examine your parenting. Okay?
SPEAKER_02Ready?
SPEAKER_04Ready.
SPEAKER_02I'm just gonna go back to the old one.
SPEAKER_04Aww.
SPEAKER_02Well, the reason just because of anger. I'm just scared of of uh gnomes. I don't want to.
SPEAKER_04Tom Bosley.
SPEAKER_02Gnomes too. Well, yeah, I'm scared of Tom Bosley's ghost. He's gonna come back and steal my underwear. I'm gonna wind up with headless underwear in the bed. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Headless underwear.
SPEAKER_02It's a call back to the South Park Gnomes. I forgot to talk about them last time. It would have been perfect. Oh, we did David the Gnome and let's do our theme song.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, let's do it.
SPEAKER_00Two married friends in little basement room, surrounded by blankies, and two microphones. They got in a car crash. She died in his arms. He kissed her lips.
SPEAKER_04I guess you better do it again. Take two.
SPEAKER_02Is that uh that's my best uh uh eight violins at the same time going dramatically she's she's uh she's leaving home leaving home.
SPEAKER_04Good news to the listener is I am still sick and may periodically be coughing, sniffing, and all those things, and I'll try to do my best to do them off cam. Off mic, I mean.
SPEAKER_02Off mic. I will uh I am not sniffling that much.
SPEAKER_04Congratulations.
SPEAKER_02Although I feel like I have ladybugs all over me. Yeah, well serious, serious freaking ladybug trap. Do you want to tell the piece in Ohio?
SPEAKER_04Do you want to tell the good people of the audience about our ladybug trap?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but first let me move this mob.
SPEAKER_04Hey, don't you don't you want to move it?
SPEAKER_02Did I do it? Did I just sing your part?
SPEAKER_04Uh bye, bye. I'm already done with that.
SPEAKER_02Sorry, just kidding. We'll save it for the end. I'm sorry, Leslie doesn't feel feel very well. I think it's ladybugs. She thinks she's had a cold.
SPEAKER_04I'd say Do you think there's ladybugs inside my ear use station tubes?
SPEAKER_02I bet there's at least two.
SPEAKER_04Oh, there probably are.
SPEAKER_02There aren't, I don't know. But I bet there's at least two ladybug legs.
SPEAKER_04Stop.
SPEAKER_02Japan Asian Asian beetles. What's the name for the Asian Lady Beetles?
SPEAKER_04I don't know. They're the worst, though. Tell us about the trap. Tell us the multi-use lights.
SPEAKER_02There's some people that aren't gonna like this.
SPEAKER_04Well, they probably left when you said that you kissed a dead body at the very beginning. So they're probably gone.
SPEAKER_02That's a lot of people who have uh don't have a problem with uh kissing dead bodies. Apparently not. Hang on.
SPEAKER_04It is a catch-all. The audience, as in everyone in the audience, is not gonna like this. So something in something we're gonna say, you're not gonna like it.
SPEAKER_02Let me just take a quick jump. Are you gonna talk about Jonathan Brandis at all today?
SPEAKER_04I don't. Yeah, I might.
SPEAKER_02Really?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, now that you brought it up.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Okay. Never mind. I was gonna talk about ladybugs.
SPEAKER_04No, you can talk about it.
SPEAKER_02That's not what you meant.
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Yeah, so we have ladybugs literally by the thousands. Yeah. Part of that is because we need new screens.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, and probably need to seal our windows. Something like that. A little bit better. Um, but they get in the house, they get in my gym. I think I'm allergic to them. I break out in rashes and stuff. Like I could it's hot. Yeah, it's a big oh, it's hot. Like it's a good light.
SPEAKER_04Like when you have rashes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you you're a big rash girl. I am.
SPEAKER_04I've always been into rashes.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so uh I've been trying to find a way to get to eradicate our ladybug problem.
SPEAKER_04Erashicate.
SPEAKER_02Erasicate. And uh I found uh a little recipe online. You take a turkey, what do you call that?
SPEAKER_04A disposable foil pan.
SPEAKER_02Disposable foil pan.
SPEAKER_04You don't have to just cook turkey in it.
SPEAKER_02No, you could cook ladybug.
SPEAKER_04You're not gonna be allowed to cook anything in the one that we were using for the ladybug trap.
SPEAKER_02We'll see. There's plenty of I use anyways, I use Dawn. I take I take a little, a small layer of water.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I put some Dawn in there, like dish soap.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So we so we can use it again.
SPEAKER_03Oh, oh, you're right.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um, and then I take one of these 17 lights. I need to start singing about the lights on our theme song.
SPEAKER_04Uh why?
SPEAKER_02Because we're surrounded by really more lights than microphones.
SPEAKER_04That's true. That is true. We're surrounded by five.
SPEAKER_02And there are blankies.
SPEAKER_04Five lights? Five lights. And a few ladybugs have joined us here today. So at least ten. I can see at least ten ladybugs on these lights.
SPEAKER_02I take the light and then I shine it down on the uh temporary or disposable turkey.
SPEAKER_04On the ladybug bath.
SPEAKER_02On the ladybug bath. And and then I turn off all the lights in the party room.
SPEAKER_04Which is painted black, so it's a very dark room.
SPEAKER_02Congregating. Yes, it is. And then I go to bed, and then when I wake up, there are this morning hundreds of dead ladybugs swimming.
SPEAKER_04Swimming, not so much.
SPEAKER_02They're getting ready for a little spin-off of our concert.
SPEAKER_04They are they're gonna get a little bit more.
Concert Premise And Beatles Tease
SPEAKER_02What's the uh off-Broadway version? This is like off Broadway. Off off. I think. That's when you start getting more of the animals coming in than the celebrities.
SPEAKER_04That's right. That's right.
SPEAKER_02You want to tell them about our concert and then our show?
SPEAKER_04Sure. Or should we talk about the show? Well, we have a concert. No, the concert obviously featured.
SPEAKER_02Obviously.
SPEAKER_04It's more we're gonna be hosting a concert and it's gonna be featuring mostly people from Beyond the Grave.
SPEAKER_02Hosted by Well, they won't be Beyond the Grave. Well, I guess they will. They'll be above it.
SPEAKER_04Well, they're dead. Most of the time.
SPEAKER_02Should we call it Above the Grave? The audience won't like it presents Above the Grave.
SPEAKER_04Above the Grave. Yeah. No, I don't know how that makes sense to you. I feel that I'm above the grave.
SPEAKER_02No, but it's like like figuratively speaking.
SPEAKER_04So it's gonna be like a world benefit type concert. I mean, we're not going to be collecting money for anything, but it's gonna have like lots of you know people you recognize, like Kitty Wells and George Takai, they're gonna be the hosts, and most of the people that we cover are gonna be there.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04So anyway, and and so which brings Two Beatles. Two of the Beatles, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Honestly, if um Ringo and Paul wanted to come, this is 2026, March, they're still alive.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So if you're listening to this later with after they've died, they can definitely come. If you're listening to before they die, we can they can still come. Yeah, they can be the audience. I just wanted to make sure that the audience was.
SPEAKER_04Oh, and a lot of the a lot, we kind of have slowed down on this, but a lot of those people are gonna be riding in on various things.
SPEAKER_02Oh yes. So there's plenty of ladybugs.
SPEAKER_04Ringo Star, he's still with us, right?
SPEAKER_02Um, yeah.
SPEAKER_04He can ride in on an octopus after he dies.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh, absolutely. Like the octopus from the Goonies.
SPEAKER_04I don't remember that.
SPEAKER_02We may be talking a little bit about Josh Broland today.
SPEAKER_04Oh.
SPEAKER_02Uh just a little. Just a little bit. Wow. Oh, speaking of my first crush.
SPEAKER_04It's 1107.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04Okay. I just have to I'm the timekeeper, the official timekeeper.
SPEAKER_02Broland. Broland. Uh what was I gonna say about him?
SPEAKER_04I don't know, but let me introduce him to the city.
SPEAKER_02He was in the Goonies. Oh, right. And there's an octopus. Well, and only the deleted scenes version.
SPEAKER_04I was gonna say, I don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_02I was talking to can I just real quick before we say what our show's about? May I? Yes. Uh in the Goonies.
SPEAKER_04Only if you're dead.
SPEAKER_02In the T and T. So you know how like they used to uh I'm trying to register, I'm trying to process what you just said, but you know how they back when you'd have TV TVs on movies on TV.
SPEAKER_04TVs on movies and movies on TV.
SPEAKER_02They gotta make it be like two hours exactly or three hours.
SPEAKER_04Oh right, right. So they cut things for commercial purposes.
SPEAKER_02So they would add things too. Oh sometimes. And I don't know if that's why they did this or they just decided to delete it for whatever reason, but there is a scene in the Goonies that was always played on TNT or wherever the Goonies was played. But never on but never on cold winter time. Or belly buttons high. It it's for people who are really interested. Deep cut.
SPEAKER_04Same point in deep cut.
SPEAKER_02Uh I'd seen I I realized how many times I'd seen the TV version. Even though I have had it on BHS and DVD, but that's another one day you finally met. But I was talking to Rob the other day and Brad as well, I think.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh two very much big 80s heads.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_02And we were talking about the Goonies. I said, I mentioned the octopus scene.
SPEAKER_04Did they pump your guts full of lead?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Now I I knew that this was not in the regular at this point. This is just a few weeks ago. So far. No, but I figured they probably know. Uh huh. You know, because I mean we can get into watching watching movies on TV and that whole culture that's lost. Um and uh, anyways, I showed it to them. They both both never seen it before. It blew their minds.
SPEAKER_04Had they just woken up? Um like like was it like the first thing that they had to do when they got out of bed was watch something, some of a video that you wanted them to see?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah. What uh that happened this morning.
SPEAKER_04Rob made me watch the I don't know, was it like the opening scene of Robocop? I literally got I woke, my eyes woke up at 8.07. We'll get to it. And at 8 17, Rob was like, you need to watch this murder scene.
SPEAKER_02Silly. We'll we'll bring it up again.
SPEAKER_04Alright, so anyway, this is the audience won't like it. I'm Leslie Shoecraft. This is Rob Shoecraft, he's my married partner. Just give me a second to mess with this cord so I won't hit it again. I don't know why you never hit yours, and I always hit mine.
SPEAKER_02Um, I tend to have mine up a little higher. I don't know if that's it, like the the elbow here.
SPEAKER_04Sorry guys, joined.
SPEAKER_00That'll just be a harp. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo does therapy.
SPEAKER_04So it helped. All right, sorry. Okay, I will I'll do my best not to touch it anymore. Okay. Audience won't like it. We have a podcast where we uh like to simulate the experience of waiting in line because who doesn't like to relive waiting in line?
SPEAKER_02I like that that's what our elevator pitch has become. It's like it's a show about waiting in line. It's a line simulator.
SPEAKER_04So in this particular line is a line waiting for the doors to open to a concert.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04And uh each week we go to see a new group. Singer, songwriter. This week it's the Beatles.
SPEAKER_02It is.
SPEAKER_04They're you might have heard of them. It's actually kind of appropriate we have these ladybugs crawling around everywhere. Um because they're like technically not because they're beetles.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I see what you're saying.
SPEAKER_04But they're like the bee-eating spell teatles.
SPEAKER_02Did you was your your uh realization of their spelling choice?
SPEAKER_04On air, yes.
SPEAKER_02That was on air that was a few episodes ago. It was amazing.
SPEAKER_04It was um, it's one of those things it's one of those things where like the Beatles as a music group have always been in my consciousness and have always been their own thing. So I finally it it never occurred to me that they had taken some spelling cleverties. Yes. So anyway, but the catch to the waiting in line to see the Beatles is you guys are not gonna be seeing the Beatles. No, no, no. It's gonna be me and Rob. Here we are.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, hi.
SPEAKER_04So stay tuned because today we're doing a Beatles. And I'll be playing piano acoustic.
SPEAKER_02Piano acoustic. Piano acoustic. Actually, not a plugged in keyboard.
SPEAKER_04Technically, it's not plugged in, it's running on batteries.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_04I mean, not even technically, like it is running on batteries.
SPEAKER_02New fresh new batteries. You you heard it here first.
SPEAKER_04So anyway, all right, so we got some stuff we gotta cover at the top, and then what we do when we wait in line, we usually find like a like a kind of like a uh main topic to talk about. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah.
Birthdays And Corrections Corner Update
SPEAKER_04But before we get there, we have definitely I have a major announcement.
SPEAKER_01Oh, what is it?
SPEAKER_04Today's Poppy's birthday.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04We did a big birthday celebration for Uncle Dan last week. They're only a week apart. Plus about 50 years.
SPEAKER_02He's uh this is Leslie's dad. He is 87. Yes. A bit older than you.
SPEAKER_04How old was he when he had He was 44 when I was born.
SPEAKER_02So a year older than having kids.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_02Or his third.
SPEAKER_04We're not even as old as he was when I was born.
SPEAKER_02It's pretty wild. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And we'll never have another child, me and Rob. But we sure like to tease our children about it.
SPEAKER_02We might steal one.
SPEAKER_04No, I would never. I don't want one. I wouldn't steal one.
SPEAKER_02We can give it back.
SPEAKER_04I don't even want to have it for any amount of time.
SPEAKER_02I might steal one and hide it from you.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Yeah. Where will you hide it?
SPEAKER_02Down here.
SPEAKER_04Oh. This side though, the crappy side of the basement. Unless I need to paint something, and then I go back there. So Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, and I will treat it totally fine for the people out there who care about such things. Right.
SPEAKER_04Uh they're probably the people that care about the dead ladybugs.
SPEAKER_02Yes. They're like, we don't care about kids, but take care of your ladybug.
SPEAKER_04Oh no, I said they're they are the people.
SPEAKER_02Oh. There's probably some overlap of people who like children. Who said anything about dogs?
SPEAKER_04Well, I was thinking of animals.
SPEAKER_02We're talking about dogs, that's a different thing altogether. There's a ladybug.
SPEAKER_04That dog has a name.
SPEAKER_02The dog has a name. Less in peace.
SPEAKER_04Alright, so anyway, happy birthday, Poppy.
SPEAKER_02Happy birthday, Poppy.
SPEAKER_04Thanks for being a wonderful father. Indeed.
SPEAKER_02Thank you so much. Being a wonderful father-in-law, too. He listens.
SPEAKER_04He does. He loves our shoes. He's a subscriber.
SPEAKER_02No new subscribers this week.
SPEAKER_04No comments either.
SPEAKER_02No comments. It's okay.
SPEAKER_04It's because I didn't Instagram. I will. I will. It's behind. I'm behind. I've been sick.
SPEAKER_02You've been sick and we've been busy and whatever. Let's let's roll. All right. So this is uh just a quick reminder. We are not really talking about corrections corner for for those who've been with us a long time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. What episode are we on today?
SPEAKER_02Uh 26.
SPEAKER_04Oh my globby.
SPEAKER_02Oh my goodness. Uh so the corrections corner is just where I go through and correct all the things and answer all the unanswered questions from the previous episode. We moved that to Instagram.
SPEAKER_04We did.
SPEAKER_02We will.
SPEAKER_04I haven't actually done it yet.
SPEAKER_02It was taking about 45 minutes, uh, an episode. It was becoming the episode. It was. So cut it out, shifted it. We'll see where it goes. Yep. Grow from here. Yep. It's a pruning, this is a gardening experience.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we need to discuss how you want that to look, but we'll come back to that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we haven't actually done it yet.
SPEAKER_04Right. I'm carrying the mantle on my own.
SPEAKER_02I do have the whole full corrections ready to go, just because you want to bring it back. Nope. All right. Um uh Rob Mystic Corner. Oh is there anything in there? We were talking about Dana Play-Doh and she overdosed, and you asked if she overdosed on Play-Doh, and I kind of got it, but you had said it way earlier. And did I say it again? Like you said it again, you kind of brought it back. That's a good joke.
SPEAKER_04If no one hears your joke or laughs at the first time, so the first rule of humor is to repeat it until someone laughs at it.
SPEAKER_02I would ordinarily advise not to repeat it because there's almost always the more people there are, there's a chance that somebody heard it and it just wasn't funny. And now you're saying it twice, and now you just look like an idiot. Um, who just really wants to make people laugh. But it worked for you. This is a case where it worked for you.
SPEAKER_04I knew that going in.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That's because it's hilarious to joke about that kind of thing. There's people that don't, there's people that don't care about poor Dana Play-Doh, who, by the way, Dana, you can come to our concert.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02Who died of a possibly a Play-Doh overdose. That's terrible. That's that was the joke. It's awful. It's non-toxic. But it's kind of fun. Um, and then you got the people who care about dogs, but not so much ladybugs. And then those who don't care that I stole a child and been treating it very well in my basement.
SPEAKER_04As long as you're treating it well.
SPEAKER_02Very well, and I will bring it back. It's like a big situation.
SPEAKER_04Why do you want it?
SPEAKER_02Um, it's like a big situation.
SPEAKER_04First rule of humor.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you heard it. I'm just well, there's another rule. There's another rule. And this is of conversational humor specifically. Where if somebody doesn't think it's funny and it's just one and you know people heard it, you could turn, this is a meta thing, but you can turn the joke that no one thinks is funny and just beat people over the f over the head with it until they think that's funny. Yeah. But what you have to do is pick the least likely person that somebody would do that to in the group, and then everybody will think it's funny that you have made them, you've singled them out. So it doesn't matter what you say to them at that point. Teacher course. Are you still with us?
SPEAKER_04Everybody's still with us. Is anyone still listening? Leave your comments below if you made it this far. It's like the late 10 minutes since I said what time it was.
SPEAKER_01Being in your pants is cool.
SPEAKER_04Alright. So, what you got for us before we hit hit in there?
SPEAKER_02I'm rocking my uh Nalgene bottle here.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Clark's like, this is cool. I'm like, this this is.
SPEAKER_04That was so cool when we were in college. Remember I had one? Did you buy it for me?
SPEAKER_02Did I? Did I buy it myself?
SPEAKER_04Or did Laura and Laura and Uncle Dan buy it for me?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I don't know. Okay, it sounds like something Uncle Dan would do.
Oppenheimer And Recent Watches
SPEAKER_04Yeah. He probably has his OG. Mine actually, the lid cracked on mine. That's what happened.
SPEAKER_02I'm thinking the first thing to go is gonna be the lid. Yeah. I always destroy my lids.
SPEAKER_04Rob is real hard on his water bees.
SPEAKER_02Very hard on my things.
SPEAKER_04He's very hard on his things.
SPEAKER_02Very hard on my things. It's true. Uh so I I started watching um Oppenheimer.
SPEAKER_04Oh, is that who's in that?
SPEAKER_02Excuse me.
SPEAKER_04A dead man?
SPEAKER_02Uh a dead man. A dead man.
SPEAKER_04Who's the main guy?
SPEAKER_02Uh Cillian Murphy. Oh. Uh you got Josh Hartnett's been in it a lot.
SPEAKER_04Really? Yeah. I don't think he goes by Hartnett.
SPEAKER_02Is it not Hartnet? It's Hartnett. Hartnett.
SPEAKER_04Hartnett.
SPEAKER_02Hardin. Josh Hartnett. He's great in it. So far.
SPEAKER_04This is a cutie.
SPEAKER_02He's like, this is maybe the best I've ever seen him. See, that was he's kind of bulked up.
SPEAKER_04Oh.
SPEAKER_02He's aged well. He's actually the probably the best actor I've ever acting I've ever seen him do. Maybe it's just the role.
SPEAKER_04What war movie was he in? Where he was like a Pearl Harbor. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's not a war movie.
SPEAKER_04Okay, well, I was like gonna tell you that was a war movie I watched because Josh Hartnett was in it.
SPEAKER_02He was in the faculty. I always liked the faculty. Yeah, we gotta watch the faculty.
SPEAKER_04I don't think I've seen that.
SPEAKER_02Oh, really? It's I I really like Josh Hartnett.
SPEAKER_04Sign me up.
SPEAKER_02Matt Damon's in it. There's a lot of people.
SPEAKER_04Who did he play opposite of him in uh Pearl Harbor? It was another man, another hard throck.
SPEAKER_02Oh boy. Is it Ethan Hawke?
SPEAKER_04Maybe.
SPEAKER_02I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Ewan McGregor.
SPEAKER_02Ewan McGregor, that's who it is. Is that who it is?
SPEAKER_04Because of their E names?
SPEAKER_02I think it's the E names and they're both British, right?
SPEAKER_04Uh I don't know if Ethan Hawk has.
SPEAKER_02I don't know who cares. There's people who care about ladybugs. Ethan Hawkes. People who care about Ethan Hawk.
SPEAKER_04British people.
SPEAKER_02And Ewan McGregor. And getting that right. Very few care about both.
SPEAKER_04So do you like it so far? Is it a bicycle movie?
SPEAKER_02It is a bicycle movie. A bicycle movie, by the way, are is movies that I tend to watch in 15 to 30 minute increments over the course of sometimes three weeks.
SPEAKER_04Wow. I think uh it's not a bicycle riding.
SPEAKER_02What took me three You're so fit and healthy. Mm-hmm. Right.
SPEAKER_04He is.
SPEAKER_02I'm not that fit. I'm not so fit and healthy. I'm uh fit more fit and healthy than most 43-year-old men who are 245 pounds. There you go. There you go. Um and it's all about watching movies. Watching movies that you specifically movies that you would never watch with me. That's correct. I figured on Oppenheimer, right? No interest.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. You said Josh has Josh Hart. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02Well, let's watch it. I've only I'm only an hour in. No. It's actually really so Christopher Nolan did it. Oh. I love it so far. And it's if you could see the Batman.
SPEAKER_04Did you do the Batman that we liked?
SPEAKER_02Uh the he did yeah, he did like that. He did some Batman's Yeah, he did some Batman. Okay. Batman.
SPEAKER_04Some Batman.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. Um if you could watch it so far anyway, I don't I mean I know how it ends, sort of, but um if you could watch do you know what it's about?
SPEAKER_04Is it about the blimp?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_04What's the blimp called? Is that blimp called the Oppenheimer? No. What's that blimp called?
SPEAKER_02The uh well no, I can't think of it, but it's uh it starts with an H. Uh the one that exploded. Yeah. Uh the high it's I want to call it the Heisenberg, but he's in the it's the uh It'll come to us.
SPEAKER_04I'll look it up.
SPEAKER_02Corrections Corner, Instagram. Uh yeah, thank you. Look it up. No, it's about the making of the it's about the Manhattan Project, the making of the of the Atomic bomb, like World War II era. But listen, if you can watch it Hindenburg. Hindenburg, thank you. If you could watch it as if it's fiction, I know it sounds weird, but if you could watch it as if it's just a fictional story, and this is you specifically, because I know you don't like truth.
SPEAKER_00Truth. You don't like truth.
SPEAKER_02Despite the X-Files episode we just talked about. Um tombs. Anyways, if you could uh if you could watch it as if it's like a fictional movie, I think you'd m enjoy it more because it's just it's neat how all these mines are getting. Of course, I've only again I've only watched an hour of it, so um we'll talk we'll talk off here. I'll see if you I'll give you one more shot to watch it with me.
SPEAKER_04I don't want to.
SPEAKER_02No?
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04I just took my shot and shot it. I started I pumped its guts full of lead.
SPEAKER_02I started uh what what what about you?
SPEAKER_04Nothing. I've been sick and depressed and sad about it all week.
SPEAKER_02I haven't done much media-wise. We haven't watched any shows together.
SPEAKER_04No. Um Oh, I I am almost done with full but the new half second half of Bridgerton. Oh I have an hour and a half left, I think.
SPEAKER_01What do you think?
SPEAKER_04Well the second half of this season, which I think is the fourth season.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I know that for some reason.
SPEAKER_04So that's good.
SPEAKER_02Oh, good. I'll I I prefer that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Um there's a lot of um storylines happening, which is not how the other Bridgertons have been. There's been a couple like side stories, but this one has some main a couple of the main characters are having some real story time.
SPEAKER_02Oh. You like the first three a lot.
SPEAKER_04Did you do you like this as much as I like the first and two a lot.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_04I didn't think the third one was convincing because I don't think I t personally did not ever feel like the the male lead in the third season actually cares about the girl that he's in love with.
SPEAKER_02And that's not part of the appeal. He's not like too cool for school. Is he so much?
SPEAKER_04No, but I mean, even when he does finally admit his feelings and go for it, I don't it the acting to me does not believe. I don't think he's a bad actor. I just don't believe it. So maybe that means he's a bad actor. I don't know. And like even now I don't believe it.
SPEAKER_02I would say he's not good enough.
SPEAKER_04He also Is he like Anakin Skywalker? This might be a personal problem, but he looks so much like Mr. Justin from the middle school here in town.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that Mr.
SPEAKER_04Just distracting. Yeah, I can't. And he's like, it just weirds me out a little bit. Mr.
unknownJustin.
SPEAKER_02That's the principal of the middle school here, yeah. And he is not to be confused with Mr. Justin from Event Horizon.
SPEAKER_04Correct.
SPEAKER_02But I also known as Baby Bear.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. You should start calling him that. The real Mr. Justin.
SPEAKER_02Just be confused. I feel bad about it.
SPEAKER_04But see, that's the thing that's the nicest guy alone. This character is like that too, and he's very smiley. Like very pleasant, very nice. You know what? I don't think the real Mr. Justin is one-dimensional, but that's what I think I don't like about the character on the third season of Rederton. His name's Colin. Very one-dimensional.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04And I would say the first half of the fourth season.
SPEAKER_02So you get some associative things going on.
SPEAKER_04Very agenda-y.
SPEAKER_02It's like why you don't like Windot Lake because one day you had to wait in traffic to get there or something like that. So now forever. Forever you hate it.
SPEAKER_04I would never say so.
SPEAKER_02Or I don't like guys named such and such because I knew one one time who was a jerk. That kind of thing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, exactly. It's human for you. If you've ever had a thought like that.
SPEAKER_02I never have. Never have. You blew my mind when you first laid that on me.
SPEAKER_04Are you serious? No. Oh.
SPEAKER_02I just think it's funny.
SPEAKER_04Anyway, what do you think?
SPEAKER_02I think it's uh of course I'm guilty of it. I just think it's it's such an absurd thing. Like it just doesn't make any sense at all. But everybody knows what that's like.
SPEAKER_04I also have been doing a lot of um deep dives into um self-lymphatic drainage.
SPEAKER_02Go on. Well like trampolines and such?
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah, that's something, but I'm not that I guess we have one. I could do it. I can jump on it. One of the uh just like that. Nope. I don't think I could qualify for a position in that field.
SPEAKER_02Let's get you up there. Let's see, let's see, let's see what you can do.
SPEAKER_04No, but at the very minimum, just taking a walk is really good for your lymphatic system. But then there's also like lots of like, you know, lymph massage you can do, but you have to do it the correct directions.
SPEAKER_02You just got a massage for the first time, right?
SPEAKER_04No, not the first time.
SPEAKER_02I mean from the first time in a long time. Yeah. For the first time from the massage therapist.
SPEAKER_04From a massage therapist.
SPEAKER_02In particular.
SPEAKER_04I've only ever had them from massage therapist. From this particular therapist, yep, and it was great.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Shout out to Maria, who will probably never listen to this. Ever, ever, ever.
SPEAKER_02But hey, if you do, you're welcome.
Lymph Drainage And Massage Talk
SPEAKER_04Um I liked her because she didn't talk.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_04Don't talk to me while you're rubbing up my body. If you're a stranger. Then I'm paying.
SPEAKER_00I like to do it. My hands feel kind of greasy right now.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, I know. See? Just want to pretend you're not a curse.
SPEAKER_03Stop. Alright, anyway, back to you, Rob.
SPEAKER_02Like tombs after rat handling. This is so great. I made that in the intro for the time to watch that. Um Sharp ends.
SPEAKER_04I started reading Sharp Ends or listening to Is that what we were continuing to hear little snippets of yesterday in the clock?
SPEAKER_02Yes. Yeah. You know, Clark liked it. Um it's a pretty uh it's pretty brutal. Like it's like a couple of things.
SPEAKER_04Oh, he don't say Clark like that?
SPEAKER_02He he said well, I started playing it, but it was playing like during like a fight scene, like a more action-oriented scene. When they're pretty brutal. Like I I've been starting to think the the I've I've I've seen critics, you know, in books they've some noteworthy critic will write the best books since such and such on the cover, and they always use a tagline. This is like Kirosawa meets Lord of the Rings or something.
SPEAKER_03Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_02I would say more, it's more like Sin City level. Sin City meets Game of Thrones meets Lord of the Rings. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Is there any redeeming characters in it?
SPEAKER_02They're all redeemed, none of them are perfect. So it's like the Grimdark. Grimdark is the genre. I think uh Warhammer 40k is like one of the biggest examples of that genre. I've never read any of them. I'm going to at some point. We're gonna we're gonna be talking about them on the show. But there's no one's it's like Game of Thrones. No one's all good. Yeah. Uh there are definitely some that are way worse.
SPEAKER_04No, he's pretty awesome.
SPEAKER_02But the ones that are awful are usually pretty awesome too.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. So do they have some great one-liners?
Grimdark Books And Jazz Listening
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh. There's so many good one-liners.
SPEAKER_04If you're gonna make a horrible villain, just make him witty, please.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, seriously. Sharp ends though, it makes it a lot easier to swallow the horrors that they commit. But the like one of my favorite characters in the series is named Glocta, and he was this like tortured. Oh gosh, I could talk about he's actually in this one, which is I'll talk about uh the first law trilogy, by the way. Or the not trilogy, the first trilogy.
SPEAKER_04L-A-W.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there's two trilogies, and then there's three like independent kind of books. They're all they all take place in the same universe. There's a lot of overlapping characters. What I'm listening what I'm listening to right now is like a uh I don't know if it'd be a novella or just a series of short stories that feature some new characters and some of the old ones at different points that aren't necessary from what I've read, they aren't necessary to really under to drive the plot, but they add to it. You know, they add richness, kind of thing. Yes. And it's really great. Um to the point where there's a there's an arc that follows two people Chev and J Jav, I don't remember her name, I can never say it right. Uh, but it's as far as I know, completely independent from the rest of the plot, and it's its own contained storyline. So I was almost thinking of having you listen to that. Because if you listen to that and you like it, then you should listen to the rest of the series.
SPEAKER_04Can I hold it in my hands and read it?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'll get you, I'll get you a copy.
SPEAKER_04I need a physical copy.
SPEAKER_02Physical copy? See if the library can be. Sharper Ends is the book you're talking about. And I'll tell you the chapters to read.
SPEAKER_04Also want me to read.
SPEAKER_02Um Sharp Ends, pardon. Yeah. Sharp Ends by Joe Ashley.
SPEAKER_04I just read the whole book. I don't want to read a section.
SPEAKER_02Well, if you read the whole book, then you're now you're tapping into places where you need to know the backstory of the show.
SPEAKER_04Oh, so this is not kind of a standalone one. What? Did you slip the ladybug off? Yeah, I did.
SPEAKER_02Sorry, people.
SPEAKER_04Goldong it.
SPEAKER_02Should have given a little warning for frightening smoking. Yeah, intense smoking. Nudity, partial nudity, partial nudity.
SPEAKER_03The ladybug flicking. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so, anyways, I'm I'm digging it so far. I will probably keep chipping away. I still got the uh I say chipping away as if it's a hard chip. I love this series, it's really good. Uh it's really growing on me. Um, I think I hear I hear the last three are are great in the the final trilogy.
SPEAKER_04Wonderful. Thank you for sharing that with us.
SPEAKER_02You're so welcome. And uh listen to a little Bill Evans from Left to Right. You listen to Billy.
SPEAKER_04Is that what we were listening to last night? I think he prefers Bill Evans.
SPEAKER_02Bill Evans.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. He told me that.
SPEAKER_02He'll be at the concert. Oh.
SPEAKER_04Is he dead?
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_04Oh.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I think he had a bit of a bit of a heroin problem. A bit of the old play.
SPEAKER_04Can you have a heroin problem uh like to do two degrees?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I feel like you either have a heroin problem or you don't.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I'm not an expert on it, but you I I Can you have a little bit of a problem? Without telling too much on anybody, including, well, let's just say anybody. Uh you can absolutely there's a spectrum of addiction for hard drugs for sure. Terrible. Um Uncle Dan's what did he say? Something I think it was, he said, I want to be rich enough to I want to be rich enough to afford a heroin problem.
SPEAKER_04Uncle Dan, you didn't say that.
SPEAKER_02Uncle Dan's like, don't tell, don't say tell people I said that. Don't tell 28 people I said that. Thank you if you're one of the 28. Very much appreciated. Especially if you have a problem, please get some help. Um, I'm serious. I'm serious, man. I can't imagine having an addiction to it.
SPEAKER_04No, it sucks.
SPEAKER_02Hard drugs. Drugs or even alcohol. Drugs man worse.
SPEAKER_04It's a hell of a drug.
SPEAKER_02So, anyways, I think he died of a hero. Oh, I think I think he had a heroin problem anyway. But uh heroin makes some beautiful music, apparently, because uh From Left to Right is great. He plays a Rhodes, uh Rhodes keyboard uh and and piano. That's sort of the well, I don't know enough about the backstory of the album, but I heard the the I heard the song Sare. Is it Soiree? S-O-I-R-E.
SPEAKER_03Soare.
SPEAKER_02And I just heard it on Pandora, and I thought, oh my gosh, I love this song. So I looked it up, I saw it's Bill Evans, and then I saw he's playing a road.
SPEAKER_04So I was like, Is it spelled like 11 with a B at the beginning? Belevin.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's Bill Evan. Just like it sounds. Just like it sounds his full name was Belinda.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_02Belinda Evans.
SPEAKER_04Evans.
SPEAKER_02Evans, E, B, B, E.
SPEAKER_04Did he eat at Bob Evans on that?
SPEAKER_02I-N-N-S. No, he did not. That's kind of the weird thing about it. He hated Bob Evans.
SPEAKER_04Evans.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But uh it's great. If you like I I'd never heard it before, I never heard a single song on it. I loved it.
SPEAKER_04We liked it. I've listened to it twice already.
SPEAKER_02You liked it too?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Great. It was great.
SPEAKER_02Wonderful. All right. And then we you started listening to uh People Under the Stairs. People under the stairs. Little uh putts.
SPEAKER_04But I can't ready to speak upon it. Speak upon it next week.
SPEAKER_02What she's talking about is OST.
SPEAKER_04That's right. I kept looking for OPT.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_04What is that?
SPEAKER_02OPT?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. Are you thinking of OPP? OPP? Not by nature. That'd be a great album to listen to.
SPEAKER_04Do you mean the when and then when in Sister Act 2 they uh said I'm down with G-O-D? Yeah, you know me.
SPEAKER_02Is that what I meant?
SPEAKER_04Everybody.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That's what that's what I meant.
SPEAKER_04Isn't that a ripoff of the city? What did I say?
SPEAKER_02OST?
SPEAKER_04No, but no, but isn't that an OPP like Yeah. Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02You know me, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Who's down with G-O-D?
SPEAKER_02Is that like Kirk Franklin? I don't know if it's Sister Cruise.
SPEAKER_04It's from Sister Act 2.
SPEAKER_02But did Kirk Franklin say something like that too?
SPEAKER_04I don't know. He has some bangers though.
SPEAKER_02He does.
SPEAKER_04Have you ever watched his like live like recordings where he has like just a bunch of people and they're all wearing like the same outfit sitting around recording?
SPEAKER_02Is it like uh cooler dressed Gaithers?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Oh yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04I do kind of like Soul Gaithers.
SPEAKER_02I kind of like those Gaither shows.
SPEAKER_04They're hilarious.
SPEAKER_02I mean they're all really good. Like really, really good singers.
SPEAKER_04And then they always have like an audience of about what, 200 people, and they're all singing in harmony too, half the time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It's not my favorite stuff, of course, but there are some songs that I absolutely it's a whole vibe if you've never seen a Gaither homecoming on TV. Totally.
SPEAKER_04Anyway. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02We should do a Gaithers uh Gaithers sometime. I don't know. Gaithrus? Gaithhris. Okay. Uh should we what do you else you want to talk about as far as before we hit the uh main topic?
Setting Up The Nostalgia Categories
SPEAKER_04The main topic? I don't have much.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04I I will say though, in in transitioning, I was thinking we do a lot of things where what we've talked about cues of what we're gonna talk about next.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_04And I feel very we talked about X-Files on the last one. That's gonna come up for me.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_04In this topic.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I I I think I know where.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. I think I might have even mentioned uh something about it last time. So what we well last time we also did TV theme songs for our cover, we did David the Gnome. And different strokes. I keep wanting to say moving on up.
SPEAKER_02You really do.
SPEAKER_04We ought to do that one.
SPEAKER_02Sure. It's a great tune.
SPEAKER_04I want a deluxe apartment in the sky.
SPEAKER_02Freaking love old theme songs. I did do a little bit of.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, because I said, is there any TV shows out there now where the theme songs have words and or describe the show?
SPEAKER_02Bonus points if they describe the show, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Did you find anything?
SPEAKER_02I mean, there's like Ted Lasso kind of does.
SPEAKER_04That's got uh what's the theme song for the Mumford and Sons.
SPEAKER_02What's the uh main guy?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I don't know his name.
SPEAKER_02Something Mumford. Mr. Mumford Mumford. Uh Mr. Justin Mumford.
SPEAKER_04Mr. Justin Mumford. So he moonlights as a principal.
SPEAKER_02Um the other one was Big Bang Theory, but bear neck of Lady's song.
SPEAKER_04See I don't know either of us. I can't think of the Ted Lasso one at all.
SPEAKER_02We talked about it last night. Big Bang Theory, I just can't.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That and two and a half men, and I can't remember the name of the guy who I I everything he he writes, I just don't think it's funny. I don't think it's funny. But hey, if you do, great. I wish I liked it.
SPEAKER_04So in in thinking of our topic for that show, we ended on X Files, but I had said we could do a TV because we've done TV sitcoms, which I need to see if my friend or I ever did go listen to that, but get the right.
SPEAKER_02So the uh Bedtime Sitcoms?
SPEAKER_04When we did the Bedtime Sitcoms ranking.
SPEAKER_02That was one of my favorite. That was fun. Um and so we're doing we're doing a similar a similar ranking system or a similar like Yeah, it's a nostalgia, it's a uh categorized nostalgia discussion.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_02Um Leslie said, I'd like to talk about like shows we used to watch when we were young. Kids. I was like, that could be a topic, but could we do like something more specific? She just said, You're gonna come up with stuff. You tell me what And I'll just answer the question. I'll answer the question. So I dropped Clark off the other day at school, and all of a sudden it just kind of flooded in. I just started writing stuff down in the parking lot. And and then I literally just copied and pasted it into a text to you. You said, Great, let's do it, and here we are.
SPEAKER_04That's here we go. So here we do it.
SPEAKER_02So you want to just dive right into it?
SPEAKER_04I do. So do you want to go just quickly? Uh I'll just say what the categories are gonna be so you guys can get all that. That's smart. Yeah. Categories are gonna be first R-rated movie you remember watching, first time you remember being scared by something on TV or in a movie, first movie or show you can remember binge watching. First VHS cover that scared you out. I want it with like movie poster. Uh first movie or show that made you aware of the opposite sex. First time you remember. Or Josh Brolin. First time you remember crying from watching something. How much time do we have on that one? First show you remember going out of your way to watch. First time a movie or show made you feel genuinely disturbed or affronted by what you were watching. Also, I have an honorable mention.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I okay.
SPEAKER_04It's just that it's just that's the c category. Just something that like I have a very core memory of. It didn't fit into any of these categories. I just I had to share. I'm gonna have to share it.
SPEAKER_02I'd love to hear it. I'm looking forward to it. We're gonna start with that or end with it.
SPEAKER_04No, we're gonna end with it.
SPEAKER_02Throw it in the middle.
RoboCop Rage And R-Rated Firsts
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we'll just throw it in. I'll probably end with it.
SPEAKER_02You want to start with the R-rated movies?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I want you to go first.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04First R-rated movie you ever remember watching. This I now I know why you made me get up and watch something within 10 minutes of opening my eyes.
SPEAKER_02So I'm gonna get there, but we're not there yet.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02That was Robocop. Right. And I RoboCop is so I I was writing out movies that I knew I watched really early. But and and so Robocop is in my it's technically in my list, but I do know almost for a fact that it was not the first one of the first R-rated movie I watched. Almost the first X-rated movie I watched, because like I know they had to really fight for they had to keep dialing back the violence in that movie. Does that surprise you based on what you saw?
SPEAKER_04It was so stupid.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but I'll get there. Uh excess it is stupid. It was Family Guy felt very campy before the uh the that scene. Do you want to just start with the first time I felt affronted by what I was watching? Go for it. Let's do that.
SPEAKER_03All right.
SPEAKER_02Because that's a for me, it was the Robocop scene, uh, the execution, I guess you could say, of of Murphy, of Peter Weller. Um I I had seen some stuff that like I thought was pretty messed up like as a kid. Like I there's some some things that affected me.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But this was the first time that I just felt like like just disgusted. Not from the violence, but just like the way they were laughing at him while they're just torturing him and blowing off parts of his body, yeah. And they're just making a joke out of it. Like it made me so violently mad.
SPEAKER_04I'd like to take your blood pressure right now as you relive this.
SPEAKER_02I was just furious, and I'm just like, and he's like such a nice guy. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04Cinderella second. What's his face?
SPEAKER_02The dad from uh gosh, he's a great actor. I love him. But the dad from uh the 70s show who plays the Red His name's Red in that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I don't know what his real name is.
SPEAKER_02Um actually, could you look it up real quick? That's gonna really drive me nuts. So he's just such an awful my my mom would say she my mom would go, I this is awful.
SPEAKER_00This is terrible, but Kurtwood Smith. Kurtwood Smith, yeah. He just looks like a child molester. He really does. Poor Kurt White.
SPEAKER_02He's a great he's a great actor. I hear he's actually a nice guy. But he plays a great slime ball. Um that scene just absolutely I was I was just very affected by it. Um it didn't like make it just made it was the first time that I ever you know, a lot of times when when we're watching, like I I don't horror movies don't tend to scare me. I'm I'm gonna go somewhere with this. In this in this day and age, I haven't I can't think of the last time I got like scared by a horror movie. I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm just saying I haven't.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_02And what but what I do get, I get very mad because usually it's just awful, innocent people just getting decimated in some terrible way. And I just don't, I hate it. This is like the first time, and this is quite frankly, even watching it today, I was just like, oh my gosh, like I hate this. And the funny thing about it is, and I'm so sorry, mom. My mom is my mom is the best, and so is my dad. I love them. They're great, and they really do.
SPEAKER_04They are, I will I will echo that.
SPEAKER_02But this is also one of the first R-rated movies I watched. And my mom wanted me to see it. And once you see this movie, because we're gonna watch it, this will just you have to go back and listen to all this because it'll make more sense. She wanted me to watch this movie because YouTube would have saved us a lot of time because we could have just she could have said, I want to show you this clip of this giant robot where a guy tries to put a gun down and there's a bug in the robot, and he doesn't know he put it down, so he so he he's like, Drop the gun, 10 seconds, or I will open fire, that kind of thing. ED209 is the name of the robot. She just wanted to show me that. But she rented the movie and we just watched the whole thing, and I don't know if she remembered what. I definitely I saw this movie and I was just like, I mean, I thought it was awesome, but it's so violent. It's so violent. Like, that is not necessary. That's the most violent scene, like all things considered. But there's so many scenes like that that are just brutal. But it's just like, including the scene that she really wanted me to watch.
SPEAKER_04You go well with your morning coffee, I'll just tell you that.
SPEAKER_02But she's like, I just my poor Bob. She's like, I just want to show you this awesome robot scene. But we ended up watching the movie for something. We'll just watch the whole thing.
unknownSo bad.
SPEAKER_02But it's very uh it's very formative, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Is it okay if I have two for s for a lot of mine?
SPEAKER_02Sure. Yeah, I do too.
SPEAKER_04Because when you add that on this one from is that your sorry yeah, that's the biggest one that I could think of.
SPEAKER_02Do you have any others? Really stood out. One kind of blends over to the crying part, but uh we'll get there.
SPEAKER_04Okay. From the same movie?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_04Okay. So you want to hold it off? On that. Yeah, go ahead. Okay. So I have two. The first one that I like my initial gut reaction. I wasn't a super young kid. I mean, I was in like probably early high school, but the first one for me that made me feel very, very disturbed was American History X. Oh. How old were we? Like 15, probably. Yeah, something like that. Very disturbing to me.
SPEAKER_02I'm assuming you're talking about the curb.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Well, pretty much. There's a few disturbing words. It's incredibly racist and awful and sad. And I just I had never really seen anything like that. Yeah, I'd never really.
SPEAKER_02Like Rock Ramper Dream or Ugh.
SPEAKER_04I never saw anything like that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04But not until college. But like But the other but the one that I remember actually truly being like as a kid feeling like sad and wronged by was the way they treat the little girl in All Dogs Go to Heaven. Because she's an orphan and they're mean to her. I remember she escapes and then she swimmed around with the alligator, but he's not very nice to her either.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it's it's coming back, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's like the way they like she's just a sad little girl, and just all these adults in her life are just like treating her bad, and then she gets away and she's with the alligator and he's like singing and they're having this great time, but then he leaves her.
SPEAKER_02It's just that's yeah, that's rough.
SPEAKER_04And I was just like, who's in who's gonna take care of this little girl?
SPEAKER_02I mean, a close second for me upon reflection in your recent addition to this conversation was probably Cinderella.
SPEAKER_04I did you hear me say that? I I said that. I said is Cinderella second place for you when you were talking about Robocop. Because the stepsisters in the wicked stepfall. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you nailed it. I freaking hate hate the hated them. Yeah. I was I was so mad.
SPEAKER_04They're just so nasty.
SPEAKER_02Cinderella is so Cinderella is one of my favor, maybe my favorite. I don't I'm not gonna say it's my favorite soundtrack, but probably my favorite Disney soundtrack. Just a couple just really beautiful compositions on there. But the story, the buttons. But I hate the story. Uh I love the Raw Dahl story where they get cut off.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I just thought that all they do is just get I wanted to see some like pretty hardcore vengeance.
SPEAKER_04Things weight nightingale.
SPEAKER_02They live long enough to be part of the made for uh straight to DVD uh sequel. I've seen it. Although they do there's a little bit of a redemptive arc, I guess.
SPEAKER_04Well, uh it has more to do with Cinderella's character, yeah. Like her human her humanity. But also the back to all dogs go to heaven, the animation. Do you remember the animation? It's almost like the style, it's almost like Land Before Time. Yeah, it's like that. It was 80s cartoon, but it's like kind of real. But it's almost like the they they leave the image as things are moving. It's just like it's very artsy, it's almost trails. I don't know how to describe it.
SPEAKER_02I I think I know what you're saying. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So anyway, those were mine.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04Alright.
SPEAKER_02Good examples.
SPEAKER_04First R-rated movie you ever remember watching.
SPEAKER_02So we rolled out it's not Robocop.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02But that was one of the first. Okay. Uh I also had Terminator One on there. Um, another Have you ever seen Terminator One?
SPEAKER_04I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Ooh, we should watch it.
SPEAKER_04It's not the one with Sarah O'Connor.
SPEAKER_02Well, Sarah Connor. Sarah Connor. Chine O'Connor. Sarah Sandra De O'Connor. Sarah Sandra De O'Connor. Um it's the one with Sarah Connor, but it is the first one with Sarah Connor. It is I think I have seen it.
SPEAKER_04I think we watched it.
SPEAKER_02It's almost more arguably more of a horror movie.
SPEAKER_04It's bad, right?
SPEAKER_02Oh yes. Yeah, yeah, I've seen it. Okay.
SPEAKER_04Is a phone is there phone calls involved, or is that the second one?
SPEAKER_02Um You're talking about the one where put uh what's what's Wolfie barking at? Oh Wolfie's fine, honey.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Is that from the first one?
SPEAKER_02That's the second one.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay. Well, I do think.
SPEAKER_02There are some phone call scenes, though. I mean, in the first one. Okay. Um, but anyways.
SPEAKER_04So it's not that.
SPEAKER_02It's not that. And it's uh it wasn't total recall either. I saw that pretty early on. It was you could see my mom, she just can't help herself. She's just like, you just she's like me, because I've like I've showed the kids so probably probably a lot of stuff I shouldn't have pretty early on because I just thought it was so cool.
SPEAKER_04My opinion on that.
SPEAKER_02My first one was Aliens. Oh wow. I'm almost positive it was aliens.
SPEAKER_04Is that the second one?
SPEAKER_02The second one.
SPEAKER_04Because of the S. That's how you know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that is a and and and it's I mean, you've seen it.
SPEAKER_04I have.
SPEAKER_02Do you I guess if you're gonna pick an R-rated movie, I mean it's it's not terrible.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's it's really it's a pretty good action movie.
SPEAKER_04There's no I would say it's more of an action movie, really, than it.
SPEAKER_02And it's sci-fi violence, which somehow, I know that's not really like Yeah, I know what you mean. And I'd say that was like Redemption, Terry. Good call.
SPEAKER_03Redemption.
SPEAKER_02Had you started with Robocop, that would have been a little problematic. You fortunately you picked that as my third. You warned me up to it. Yeah. Yeah. Aliens perfect. I'll tell you the perfect rated R movie. For your first rated R movie for a young child. Die Hard? Child in the Basement, for instance. Uh Die Hard, there's an argument there.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Especially with the bonding, the family thing, because everybody's moving, yeah. I would say The Matrix.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like the R rating doesn't even make sense to me.
SPEAKER_04No, not at all. No, it's really more of a you know, by talking about sci-fi violence.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Wonder why it's rated R.
SPEAKER_02A lot of our conversations gravitate to ratings. Huh. I'm fat kind of I've always been kind of fascinated with what makes the cut and what doesn't and why and the evolution of that. Anyways, there's a there's a main topic there. But um, for now you'll have to settle for my first movie. Aliens, which I actually prefer over Alien, even though I like Alien a lot.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02They're two totally different movies.
SPEAKER_04Caroline watched Alien by herself one day when she was homeschooled from sick. Home from sick?
SPEAKER_02When she was homeschooled from sick.
SPEAKER_04I think fourth or fifth grade, and she was laying in our room watching it. I came in and I'm like, what are you watching?
SPEAKER_02I've never seen the third one. Have you?
SPEAKER_04No. Is it aliens?
SPEAKER_02Aliens, and somehow you have to say three when you combine an S going into a three. Hello, buddy. Hello, buddy. Spaceballs. Okay, moving on. I'm going over this.
SPEAKER_04Mine?
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_04First R Rate of M ever movie I remember watching.
SPEAKER_01Removie.
SPEAKER_04Removie.
SPEAKER_01Do I have a hit?
SPEAKER_04I'm not well, guys. I'm not well. Um The Hand That Rocks the Cradle.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I've never seen that.
SPEAKER_04So my grandma, Linda. Oh, whoops, sorry. She's dead.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, she can come to our company.
SPEAKER_04She just turned 120.
SPEAKER_02Five.
SPEAKER_04Five.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_04No, 120. 120. She was born in 1906.
SPEAKER_02Oh, sorry. March. Sorry, ma'am.
SPEAKER_04In March. Anyway, she had a satellite dish, like one of the old huge satellite dishes that when you changed frequencies or whatever, changed channels, the whole dish would move. You could watch it moving.
SPEAKER_02Like in Stay Tuned. It's a John Ritter movie we talked about before. Oh, okay. Don't worry about it. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_04And um sometimes she would have like, I don't know, if she would get like a different package or something, it would come with like movie channels or something. And my sister, Laura, looking at you, turned on the hand that rocks the cradle. And every all the adults were like on the other side of the house. It was like a ranch house, and they were all kitchen family room side and or living room side. And then Laura was watching TV on grandma's cape, grandma's satellite, because we didn't have that. And that was on. And I just remember being like, A, sick to my stomach that we were gonna get in trouble. And B the movie's very disturbing. And there's like a very disturbing part where they frame the gardener. He's like, I think he's now don't get I I could be wrong. I feel like he might be a little bit slow, the gardener.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_04The caretaker. But he's also black.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay. And they frame him and make it look like he's been abusing if I saw that, that would probably I'm not trying to sound like I'm sort of social some sort of social justice warrior, but like legitimately, that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_04You would hate it.
SPEAKER_02Makes me so mad. Like that might beat out the RoboComp.
SPEAKER_04It's like a bit of a psychological and like it you would hate it because it's from what I can remember, nobody nobody knows who the bad person is, and the bad person just keeps manipulating everything. But you as the viewer see the bad things they're doing.
SPEAKER_02You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um let me see here. I'm looking at the uh But yeah.
SPEAKER_04That was that one also probably would have gone with our previous category about feeling really disturbed by something.
SPEAKER_02Hmm. It's uh let's see, rated R for some strong, bloody violence, sexual content and language. That's mild. These are all very subjective. Woman kills a man with a baseball bet. Spoiler alert. There's uh there's a well, I won't say all this. Yeah. Anyways, okay. So that was my I always have those I always have it if even though I haven't seen it.
SPEAKER_04It was as much circumstantial for me as it was the content of what we were watching. I was just so afraid we were gonna get in trouble. And like my sister, like we were very much like she was like a teenager and I was a kid, so there was no real relationship there at that time except for her being like, Shut up! I'm watching this. It's fine, they're not gonna find out, or something like that.
SPEAKER_02That reminds me of yeah, I'm sure Laura's just like wanted to kill you.
SPEAKER_04So I was like, shut up. The uh no unless you tell them.
SPEAKER_02Yes, I've I've had similar situations. So I'll I'll get to I'll throw in an honorable mention. The well this could be in like a part two random categories of nostalgic uh media. But there were we were watching Beetlejuice, and you've seen the you've seen Beetlejuice?
SPEAKER_04The Ridge.
SPEAKER_02Wait, the what?
SPEAKER_04The original?
SPEAKER_02The original, yeah. I haven't seen the new and there's a scene where he like, if I remember right, he grabs himself. This is a PG movie. It's Michael Key. Yeah, yeah. It's when you could throw, it's when you could throw the F-word in a PG movie.
SPEAKER_04Like once.
SPEAKER_02Like once. I think I think My Blue Heaven did it. It's such a random, obscure piece of trivia.
SPEAKER_04Like an Elvis movie?
SPEAKER_02No, it was a Steve Martin movie about a gangster. It doesn't matter. One of those movies I watched a million times for some reason because it was always on at my grandma's house. Like I just happened to, she had like HBO or something. And I for whatever reason I've seen My Blue Heaven many times. I think it was rated PG.
SPEAKER_04You never wanted to.
SPEAKER_02Julie Nutnik. But anyways, uh, we were watching Beetlejuice, and it was me and my brother. This is when Julia was dead. Still dead. Still dead. And uh and so I'm not even gonna explain that. I'm just gonna let it go. And then the uh the our our friends were over three girls about our age. We're watching Beetlejuice. He grabs himself and he says, uh, says the F-word. And we're all walking around the room doing that and saying that.
SPEAKER_04The girls too?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. And then our our parents come up and see that, and they're just like, no. But it was just like because if it was like if they walked in and just I was doing it in front of my brother, I probably would have gotten grounded. Oh, but in this case, it's like you guys were all everybody's doing it, they're just like, let's just this never happened. You know, anyways, that's that's a core memory. Okay, move on.
SPEAKER_04Alright, so the next one is the first time you remember being scared by something in TV or movie.
Earliest TV Fears And Theme Songs
SPEAKER_02Okay, I had to dig for this. Do you want me to start? Yeah. Um, you know, I like to take it on a little journey.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_02So one of the things that may even be a main topic someday. Okay. Because I really want to watch this episode again. Have you ever seen Night Gallery?
SPEAKER_04Uh no, I don't think.
SPEAKER_02Late 1969 Rod Serling Twil from Twilight Zone. Anyways, it's a very similar to Twilight Zone. There's an episode called The Cemetery.
SPEAKER_04Okay. And that was one of the Tales from the Crypt style, like where there would be like a host and then they would show like short films or whatever.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, if I remember I'd say that's probably a pretty accurate.
SPEAKER_04Oh, is this the painting one? Yes. Yes.
SPEAKER_02That's the probably the first scary thing I saw that I also thought was really cool. Yeah. Like that I thought was cool enough to keep watching it, even though I was pretty freaking scared.
SPEAKER_04Give us the premise.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's not my main topic.
SPEAKER_04Oh.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So I just wanted to, like I said, I'd take you on a journey.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02Alright. We'll talk about that some other time. I do love that episode. I want to probably make it. The cemetery. Yeah, the cemetery. I don't know if it I don't know if it uh holds up. I haven't seen it since I was a kid. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I'll save my comments. Okay. Then I was digging around Twilight Zone episodes, but I think even further back, the fur because I remember this means nothing to anybody, but in Glen Glendora, living on Fountain Springs. I so have you ever seen Darby O'Gill and the Little People?
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_02Do you remember the Banshee?
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_02Well, I do. Look up the Banshee. Look up Darby O'Gill and the Little People Banshee. Or just Darby O'Gill. I do remember being absolutely frightened by the Banshee. And it's like this. If you've never seen it, it is kind of scary looking still. It's what I want to say it's a 50s. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh wow. It's very Scooby-Doo.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it is very Scooby-Doo. But it's, you know, it's it's real.
SPEAKER_04It's um It's like they mess with the negatives kind of.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, or mirror, or so I don't know how they do it. But it is like a real I say real, but you know, it's it's not it's not a cartoon.
SPEAKER_04Wait, she's not bad?
SPEAKER_02I don't remember. I just remember being so.
SPEAKER_04It says she doesn't hunt or kill, she mourns with the family.
SPEAKER_02Okay. It doesn't it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_04I saw that and was very She took very Wow, I don't I don't remember that at all.
SPEAKER_02Well, that I mean I remember that I just yeah, I I can't. How old do you think you were? Not eloquent enough to make it any more descriptive. How old do I think I was? So I was maybe five, maybe four or five? I'd say.
SPEAKER_04I had two.
SPEAKER_02I just moved from Burbank.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I I I I and I'm I'm I'm I'm piecing together context because I'm sure my parents could tell you exactly, but it doesn't really matter. I would say somewhere around I'd say five at the oldest. I don't know how I don't know how many memories I have before that.
SPEAKER_04I had trouble coming up with scary stuff that I had watched. More of my stuff came from books.
SPEAKER_02That's funny.
SPEAKER_04Like no, well, but I came up with something from but like my earliest stuff was like the very scary story illustrations.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's a good one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um or like Goosebumps books were were very those some of my earliest scary memories because I love to read so much I couldn't stop picking it up and reading it. Like, even though I knew it was gonna be terrible for me. But the things that I thought of, first of all, the X-Files theme. I wasn't allowed to watch it, but my sister watched it. And so if I heard it come on, I was very scared.
SPEAKER_02Just the theme in general. Yes. Gotcha. It is a pretty funny thing.
SPEAKER_04And the unsolved mysteries theme, also very scary to me.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Both of them. And I did watch that. We did watch that. That's probably one of the first times I remember feeling scared. But then the other one that sings out is the nothing from the never ending story. Oh. I thought was really good call. Frightening. I it does not hold up. It's like a terrible wolf puppet.
SPEAKER_02No. Yeah, it is. It's not.
SPEAKER_04I mean, the never ending story is fantastic. I mean take it away from it.
SPEAKER_02Artex is death. The RTX death scene. That that that I was just like, what?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they're really gonna let that horse die. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02There's some people who care about horses. There's some people who care about kidnapping.
SPEAKER_04But I mean, it was the kid's horse too. Like that, it wasn't just that the horse dying, it was uh the Treyu's horse.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the horse was uh I mean, is it the main character?
SPEAKER_04I mean, that's a I'm sure you've seen it, but that's a meme. It's like this is where my childhood trauma started, and it's like a scene of Artax just going under in the mud.
SPEAKER_02It's a scene of Peter Weller getting his arm like everything else blown off.
Binge Watching Before Streaming Existed
SPEAKER_04But yeah, those are mine. First movie or show you can remember, binge watching. This one was hard because we couldn't really binge watch stuff until we were older.
SPEAKER_02I would disagree.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02First movie or show. Now, when I say binge watching, I also mean watching it over and over again.
SPEAKER_04Oh, well then I have a great one for that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That's why I would disagree with you because you filmed me many that you have watched many, many, many times. Um man, I'm thinking of all sorts of other things. Temple of Doom and the guy got his heart ripped out, that was pretty.
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh. You watched that? You binge watched that?
SPEAKER_02No, no, no. But I've got to be a good one. Oh, you're still back on shocking. I'm just yeah.
SPEAKER_04Uh does it count if your dad was being a big deal?
SPEAKER_02I mean, Robocops still wins. That was a pretty that scene. Yeah. But I'm just thinking of a bunch of scenes I saw there was just a lot of things.
SPEAKER_04I guess, yeah, I have.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. What do you want me to start?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, binge watching. Go for it.
SPEAKER_02So I got I got two. Two will not surprise you at all. Um, and the other one you probably haven't heard of. Okay.
SPEAKER_04So settle in.
SPEAKER_02So settle in. Big Trouble in Little China was definitely early on.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh I don't I don't know how, you know, I was so young that I don't I don't, and also just completely clueless as to how the world works. So something appears on the TV and I watch it, right? So my mom must have rented Big Trouble in China at some point.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And good call, mom. Just a good call. Clear, through and through, perfect parenting. Not sarcastic at all. And that really genuine. Yeah. I love this movie. It's one of the best. This movie probably shaped my personality more than any other form of media. Just like everything about it's got everything. And I think I I argue I used to get kind of uh I know I've never been embarrassed recommending this movie to anybody, but I do realize that people don't think this movie's good. I think this movie is actually br brilliant. At the time, I just thought it was awesome. And I could go on, but we'll do a big trouble on China episode at some point. Um but the I've seen I've seen it so many. I mean, just it has the huge fight in the alley. It's got uh just all sorts of fighting.
SPEAKER_04Did you watch certain parts of it over and over again, or did you watch the whole thing just start to I just watched the whole thing.
SPEAKER_02I mean, there's definitely scenes I liked more. That's not it though. That's not the one.
SPEAKER_04Okay, what else?
SPEAKER_02Um actually that might be. I Back to the Future was another one. I watched Back to the Future a trillion times in a row. There's so many scenes that I just loved. I love that Johnny be good scene was one of my favorite scenes of any movie ever. Okay. Just it not so much the music part, it was just him just at an early age. I realized how cool it was to know a song that was right about to come out.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That to be able to do that and just like kind of trick a whole room and have them love you immediately is just like super cool. And then he goes in the Van Halen thing, which I didn't know who Van Halen was, but now I appreciate it even more. Okay. I would say Thrashen might have been the first one I remember. Is that Josh Brolin?
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh. Is that a guitar movie? No, it's a skateboarding movie. Skateboarding.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, kind of like Gleaming the Cube or was it Airborne or Rad. We saw a little bit of Rad. They did the BMX uh Slow Dance? Slow Dance. Thrashin was a movie I have not seen since. I probably rented it once, but I think I watched it like five times in a row. I loved it. I thought it was awesome. It's like two.
SPEAKER_04Was it awesome?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I want to watch it again. I haven't seen it since I was like six.
SPEAKER_04But how old was Josh Burlin, like a teenager?
SPEAKER_02This was like right around Goonies. Goonies might have just been before, just been after. I'm not sure. But yeah, he would have been 1985, maybe.
SPEAKER_04I was in high school.
SPEAKER_02Oh, really?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I watched Goonies pretty early. Honestly, that's that that was a that was an early uh repeat. But Thrashen, there's like two, I think it's like two motorcycle. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_04He loved it, can't you?
SPEAKER_02Can you imagine? Two skateboarding gangs that are like up against each other competing to who's the best.
SPEAKER_04Aren't skateboarders like sort of notoriously like chill and laid back and would never have gangs.
SPEAKER_02These guys.
SPEAKER_04And they would never have gangs.
SPEAKER_02This was like closer to like Yeah, they would never have gangs. No. Except from like kids. I think the guy gets beat up another movie kids.
SPEAKER_03Oh that's terrible.
SPEAKER_02This would be more like Fast and the Furious, maybe.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Like uh in terms of like the gang structure. But you also have the whole have you seen Fast and the Furious?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, one or two of them.
SPEAKER_02Well, I think Josh Brolin like falls in love with the rival gangster. Romeo Juliet. Yeah. And there's that whole thing going on. We should watch it.
SPEAKER_04I don't want to watch any of the stuff you've said we should watch. You don't want to watch the first episode.
SPEAKER_02Oh no.
SPEAKER_04All right. Can I say mine now? No. Okay. Well, I was thinking of modern day versions of binge watching. So I had said Spongebob and then Dead Like Me, because I had the we had the DVDs.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_04Where you could just sit and watch episode after episode.
SPEAKER_02That's not nearly as nostalgic as well.
SPEAKER_04No, it's not. But so when you said that, I could have repeat watching. Then of course, sorry to say the never-ending story made it makes it back on the list for that because my dad would we would rent that all the time. And then we owned the three-star. Star Wars. And I would say my dad's favorite was probably five.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Is that everybody's favorite?
SPEAKER_02Uh no. No, but it's um it's a lot of people's favorites.
SPEAKER_04Is it called an What's Empire Strikes Back is Five? Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's the sixth one called?
SPEAKER_02Um Never Ending Story. A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back and uh Return of the Jedi.
SPEAKER_04Duh. Okay. Anyway, yeah, I would say Empire Strikes Back was his favorite. And so he watched that. I mean, I feel like he watched that every Saturday.
SPEAKER_02Star Wars is honestly pretty I love Star Wars, but I don't love it that much. Yeah, well it's pretty like Stark Star Trek way more in almost every way.
SPEAKER_04I saw a thing the other day that said if you saw somebody wearing it was like a poll and it was like, who would you rather ask for help? A person wearing a Star Trek t-shirt or a person wearing a Star Wars t-shirt. Star Trek. And it was like 95% of people selected the Star Trek.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, absolutely. Like it takes a certain kind of somebody who's who either just doesn't care. Everybody wears Star Wars. Star Wars is fine. Whatever. Wear whatever. I think it's a good one. I also have a Jurassic Park. I love Star Wars.
SPEAKER_04I have Jurassic Park shirt on underneath.
SPEAKER_02Where your Jurassic? I would go I might go to the Jurassic Park.
SPEAKER_04You go to the Jurassic Person.
SPEAKER_02No, I go for Star Trek.
SPEAKER_04Anyway, so but the but the one I'm gonna actually gonna choose is the Never Ever Ever Talk to Strangers uh video that I had.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, go on.
SPEAKER_04It had about five different I've heard you sing it before, but uh never ever ever ever ever ever Never Talk to Strangers.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh. So you're making me think of all these shows now. I remember watching as a little kid.
SPEAKER_04It was like it was like it felt felt like a PBS show where they would have like how Sesame Street just has like little vignettes constantly, like little, you know, two, three, four, five minutes. I have to watch the crap out of Sesame Street. It was the original reels, by the way. I feel like Sesame Street, you just keep going to the next thing. But it was a it had a it had a one video, it had like five stories on it. So there was one, the song about never talk to strangers. And then there was one where the everything flooded and all of the stuff in the house was floating down the street. There was I can't remember what all of them were, but the never ever ever ever talked to strangers. My sister used to get super mad when I would put it in, and she'd be like, Never Which I'm sure.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, basically.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That reminds me, there was a show I watched called like the the wow wow whizzy wazzy wazzy woo-woo or something like that. But I was I was a little bit old, I think thrashing came first, to be honest with you, but I don't know, maybe not.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
VHS Covers And Video Store Smells
SPEAKER_02Um all right.
SPEAKER_04First cover to scare ya. VHS taped cover.
SPEAKER_02So that was like always a huge experience for me was going into the video stores. We could talk about video stores in general.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah. And the way that we got that candle that smells like it.
SPEAKER_02Yes, I know. I smell candles all the time, hoping to someday find it again.
SPEAKER_04Something that smells like black plastic.
SPEAKER_02That's but it no, it's got like almost a little bit of a cedar undertone.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it was a bit of an ink smell too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but it smells like a mom and pop video store.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Spring Valley Video. Shout out. What was yours called? I want to just always smell that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04What was your video store called?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I don't know. Um I'm not sure. I we had a lot of videos.
SPEAKER_04I'm like the dominoes, you know, the dominoes.
SPEAKER_02This is a town that had one video store. I've lived I've always lived in some that have uh many.
SPEAKER_04Can you picture the dominoes now that we have here? Yes. How it has two entrances. Well, it used to just be the first one on the corner, and then the immediate door next to it was a separate business, and that was the video rental store. So do you think that we went and got a pizza and a video every single Friday, and we always got never-ending story or one that will come up later for me. I'm not gonna say it yet.
SPEAKER_02It's awesome.
SPEAKER_04I I feel like this is a great episode for my dad's birthday because it's like he was very instrumental in what we watched.
SPEAKER_02I I I know my mom was. Uh my dad was too, to a degree, but it was more as I got older.
SPEAKER_04But um I Okay, first thing that scared you though.
SPEAKER_02Back to that. But so that was a big thing for me, is going in, you go into the video store and you look at box art for well video games. But the 80s was like the 80s were like a graphic time.
SPEAKER_04I want this because of what this cover looks like.
SPEAKER_02Yes. And and but the horror movies were like graphics. I never I don't think I ever rented a single one. Maybe a couple like light ones, but like I would just sit there and almost like dare myself to like pick them up and look at them. There's some that I just would not even look at.
SPEAKER_04Or what about what about ones that had like sexy covers? I would be like afraid to even be seen looking at the sexy covers.
SPEAKER_02Rob, you walked by that section 17 times. There was one time I swear they had left out like some, you know, the behind the curtain kind of juice to juice. There was one.
SPEAKER_03There was a room.
SPEAKER_02They they they were doing shelves one time, and they left a couple of those out, and I saw them and I was just like, Oh my god. Whoa. Maybe it was, I don't know what it was, but anyway.
SPEAKER_04You're going straight to hell.
SPEAKER_02No, the Pipley faced uh clerk is going straight to hell. Yeah. I was just a kid.
SPEAKER_04You're just a baby. But the baby.
SPEAKER_02So uh I would say dolls. I don't think it's even a question. I was thinking Friday night, maybe. What's DOS? Dolls. Oh you know, I I've terrified of dolls. Yeah. And then there's a killer dolls. Chucky, for whatever reason, didn't really scare me.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I had Chucky on my list.
SPEAKER_02I would almost say Chucky is what made me stop being afraid of dolls. Because it's too silly, it's so stupid. Um, but dolls I never watched. We should watch it.
SPEAKER_04We should.
SPEAKER_02I probably It's probably stupid. It's probably so, so lame.
SPEAKER_04Are there any children we know that we can make watch with that? When you get that one for the basement? Yeah, I'll get when you get that kid for the basement, we'll watch it with him. All right, well, mine.
SPEAKER_01He's here.
SPEAKER_04Can I say mine?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, please.
SPEAKER_04My grandma Lucy used to buy books. And you know kidding me? Uh but you know how you can get books that have even though the book came out first, they re-release the book when it becomes a movie, and then they use the movie poster as the book cover. Okay, well, this is where I saw it for the first time was the Jaws movie poster on the cover of the novel. And you know, we went to Florida all the time. I was terrified of that because she's swimming so f relaxedly at the top, and then you know, Jaws is underneath. That was it for me. That was a real moment.
SPEAKER_02Wow, yeah. Good call.
SPEAKER_04Thank you.
SPEAKER_02When was the first time you saw Jaws?
SPEAKER_04As an adult.
SPEAKER_02Oh, really?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh shit.
SPEAKER_04I mean, we might have it might have even been upstairs in this house. Okay. But I actually sat and watched the whole thing. I don't think I'd ever seen it. I read it. I'd read it. I read it at my grandma's house. That was the thing I just could not stop myself. Like I knew it was gonna be scary.
SPEAKER_02But you read so you did you read Jaws before you Yeah, I read it in junior high probably. How uh how's the book?
SPEAKER_04Great.
SPEAKER_02Is it yeah?
SPEAKER_04Sad.
SPEAKER_02It's like Peter Benchley, is that who writes that? Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER_04It's kind of sad because it's like well, you know how a lot of 70s, 80s movies feel kind of like depressing?
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah. Yeah, it's so depressing. It's very 70s especially.
SPEAKER_04And it's like the uh the main guy and his the is it the sheriff and his wife that she has an affair? Or is it the researcher and his wife that has that the wife has an affair? Yeah, like that's sad makes you feel very empty. And then the whole thing's about people getting attacked by sharks. So there's not a lot of joy in the book. There's no joy in it actually.
SPEAKER_02Do you do you think we could segue into the crying?
First Times Movies Made Us Cry
SPEAKER_04Yeah, let's go into the crying.
SPEAKER_02Because can may I? Please. So you know what mine is? What? Jaws uh little boy.
SPEAKER_04Oh at the beginning?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04In there is it when they're swim there everybody's out there swimming. Yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Alex. Alex goes out and he gets eaten by Jaws, but his mom is like freaking out. And I just like too much. That was the first time I remember crying and watching something. Because I was just like, it was just horrible. I felt so awful for her.
SPEAKER_04Like it was just Yeah, your empath, your mirror neurons were fully engaged.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's it's it's I I know uh these all sound like I'm some like I'm trying to pick cherry pick things that make me sound like a great person, like full of empathy for.
SPEAKER_04I don't think that. Okay. Don't worry, guys, it's not that's not what he's doing.
SPEAKER_02But it really, like, it just really uh just really freaks.
SPEAKER_04It's okay if six-year-old Rob was a good person.
SPEAKER_02It's like what like I I l I stopped watching Schindler's List.
SPEAKER_04Like I've never been able to watch it.
SPEAKER_02I had to I come back and watch it later because uh in my life, because it's just the the similar scenes except way worse, really. Well, I don't know, Jaws, Nazis and they're all pretty bad.
SPEAKER_04I feel like Nazis are worse.
SPEAKER_02Definitely they're but I mean like watching Nazis had intent. Like if you're watching a child be murdered on screen. Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. Oh, did your mom know that a child dies in Jaws?
SPEAKER_04Should we tell her? Trigger warning Terry, a child dies.
SPEAKER_02Alex Alex Kidna. Uh well yeah, his name was Alex Kidner.
SPEAKER_04I have like a never-ending list of things that made me cry because Is All Dogs Go to Heaven on there? It is. All dogs go to heaven when she's saying Charlie, you can never come back.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Five.
SPEAKER_02Somewhere out there. Yeah, somewhere, yeah. It's pretty happy.
SPEAKER_04But I'll say, and I have the never-ending story on there too, when our tax dies. I already have that.
SPEAKER_02I don't know if I cried, I think it was just disgusted.
SPEAKER_04But uh the last unicorn when they're at the end and then they're in the ocean and all the unicorns are out there in the ocean. I still don't understand that scene. But I was cr my me and my dad are just sitting there shoulder shaking tears silently, tears are streaming down both of our faces.
SPEAKER_02Is that Jeff Bridges?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, in America.
SPEAKER_02America, did the soundtrack, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh. Uh, but yeah, that was those are mine. But I cried at everything.
SPEAKER_02Now you watched that a lot though, right? Yeah. So did you always cry or do you eventually just build up a little bit? I don't remember. I don't remember. I just remember crying out. Swimming dead unicorns.
SPEAKER_04I also cried my eyes out at My Girl.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I think that would have My Girl might have been one of the first movies I remember. I remember making fun of the movie in such a terrible way to avoid crying. Like making fun of Macaulay Calkins. He needs his glasses on what a dork. I'm glad he's dead. Yeah. You know, that kind of stuff. Because if I just sat there and watched it and thought about it, I probably would have cried.
SPEAKER_04But like I would cry all the time. I was reading where where the red fern grows?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Is that about the dogs?
SPEAKER_02I'm hunting dogs. Bridge to Terabithia and where the red fern fern grows, I think I've mixed them up.
SPEAKER_04Well, Bridge to Terabithia, I did not ever actually.
SPEAKER_02Is that a said?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Gotcha.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, because the kid goes out by I think it's the girl that goes out by herself. So one of them in a wheelchair or is that where the red grown Red fern grows.
SPEAKER_02Or maybe nothing. No, maybe nothing at all.
SPEAKER_04I don't think that anyone's in a wheelchair, though. But I would rather have a wheel at school and be crying at school and be so embarrassed that I because I like have to put the book away.
SPEAKER_02That's like when I picked up uh Omi. She had just watched the notebook. Like just watched it. I don't remember what the circumstances were, but she was just a puddle. She was a mess.
SPEAKER_04Or like up.
SPEAKER_01Oh gosh.
Crushes And Must Watch TV Rituals
SPEAKER_04When I was eight months pregnant, we went and watched up. Um okay, yeah, that's good. All right. What's next? Uh let's go back to first movie or show that made you aware of the opposite sex.
SPEAKER_02Um I don't know which one it is. I'm gonna say it's probably Charles in Charge, Nicole Eggert. I think I remember seeing her. I don't know how old I would have been. The show's was on for since I was like two. So it was probably really early on. Maybe like five, maybe five or six, I'll just say. And I just remember thinking like I I just remember not not thinking this, but just dawning on like I didn't know somebody could be that attractive. Like I didn't know that was possible. Like I just remember being like struck.
SPEAKER_04I don't even know what she looks like.
SPEAKER_02Um I don't know what she looks like now, but I don't want to look her up as a little kid either, because it's it's there's such a screwed up this is a very screwed-up exercise for me because you're like associating pa like with hot children. It's it's a mess. Alyssa Milano would be a second, but she wasn't a first. Um I would say then there was this is so random, and this took a little bit of research. There's a Tony Danza movie in 1989 called She's Out of Control.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so I the Amy Dolans is the name of the actress. She's a teenager. But do you didn't have cable, but you ever stay in a are you familiar with like the pay-per-view trailers? They just run them all day long.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I would sit there and watch the trailers. Like I've seen so many freaking movie trailers between like the late 80s and the early 90s. It's not even like it's so funny. And there was this one that came on, she's out of control. And the way I found it was because I couldn't remember, I've never even seen the movie. It looks awful. It looks so bad.
SPEAKER_04Hortense.
SPEAKER_02I kind of want to watch it actually.
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh. But it's we have to go to work sometimes.
SPEAKER_02Matthew Perry's in it too. Um and uh uh Will Sean, uh the guy for uh never mind, forget it. Okay, so it's about this girl who gets like a like a makeover and she becomes hot and like all the guys want to date her.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And but if it it's it's the uh not the kinks, but uh Van Halen's version of You Really Got Me. Okay. I just remember that song going down.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then she starts like going from like ugly duckling to like running on the beach, just Baywatch style. Yeah, and I was just like like anytime I hear that when I was like in the playroom watching TV or whatever, I'd just be like, watch that trailer. Like I'd be locked in. I was so into it.
SPEAKER_04Anyway, so uh I had trouble. I didn't nothing popped up. The only thing that popped up at all was a sandlot. Benny the Jet Rodriguez. That came to my mind, and we used to re-watch certain scenes where he was like running, or I mean, we would watch, it was me and Ryan.
SPEAKER_02That was what, 90? 1990, maybe?
SPEAKER_04I was definitely in elementary school when it came out.
SPEAKER_02Gotcha.
SPEAKER_04But I we watched at a sleepover a couple different. We would always somebody who had a copy of it would bring it and we would watch the scenes with him where he would be doing some physical activity.
SPEAKER_02The Sandlaud is perfect because it's uh I'll I'll comment on, you know, my um Can I would say it my sexual relationship with Benny the Jet Review? But uh But it's so cool. I've you're not the like there's a lot of like that is like a truly uh I know just as many girls who love that movie as I do boys.
SPEAKER_04Well the dog, that was my favorite part of it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But uh who was the Wendy Peppercorn?
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02She was yeah, she was hot. She's maybe like the at that point, I yeah. Was she kind of like a um Nicole Eggert woke me up after that? I don't, it's hard to remember.
SPEAKER_04Uh what was the girl's name on The Wonder Years?
SPEAKER_02Uh Winnie.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Was she kind of a character like that?
SPEAKER_02Winnie Cooper?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. In the sandlot.
SPEAKER_02Uh she's the one. She was the life no, I wouldn't say so. She was a lifeguard. She was a lifeguard. Oh, that was kind of a that scene, I don't know how well that aged, honestly.
SPEAKER_04We should watch it again.
SPEAKER_02I love that movie. I just want to watch that scene over and over again.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, just that scene's fine. Alright. Something you went out of your way to watch.
SPEAKER_02Oh man. Um, oh yeah, yeah. Uh G.I. Joe.
SPEAKER_04I hate that answer. I hated that.
SPEAKER_02G.I. Joe, the cartoon.
SPEAKER_04And I hated it the end when they would have like a little PSA. Oh, I hated that so much.
SPEAKER_02I didn't necessarily like that, but I loved it.
SPEAKER_04I really felt very much like don't tell me what to do.
SPEAKER_02That's boy, that sounds like something I would say.
SPEAKER_04I know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um I was like, this is a boy cartoon.
SPEAKER_02I thought it was dumb. I thought that part was kind of stupid. Why are they GI Joe? It was kind of cool to see like uh the reality TV version of you know Flint or whatever.
SPEAKER_04But like community.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Community episode where they're Flint and Rob Flint and Roeblock in the morning.
SPEAKER_02But it was uh I loved that show. I just I don't I don't I it's one of those shows I had I the only thing I've seen it in the last ten years, but only the movie. They made a movie out of it. Do you ever see that?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Do you can you describe what what going out of your way to watch it looked like?
SPEAKER_02I don't know if this is true or not, but I definitely have memories of waking up when the clock said five something.
SPEAKER_04You had to get up and watch it before school.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before school, because I knew it was on before school. It was on real early, and I would just go in and watch whatever it was, if it was in the middle of it or the beginning, or I don't care. I just want to watch G.I. Joe. Now that I'm thinking about it, it was probably the first time I have ever noticed the an animated opposite sex.
SPEAKER_04Oh, uh like uh what was her name?
SPEAKER_02Scarlet? Yeah. Uh Baroness?
SPEAKER_04Yes. I mean Well, they're drawn pretty hot. Yeah. Would you like Jessica Rabbit?
SPEAKER_02A bunch of guys who watch Star Trek. If you were to pick two people, one guy who likes Star Wars and one guy who likes Star Trek to see his artwork of the opposite sex.
SPEAKER_01Star Wars? Star Trek. Star Trek 100%.
SPEAKER_02Um Star Wars did be like she may be hot, but she'd have a very big fat slobbery booger next to her or something like that. Um anyways, what was your question? Um Jessica Rabbit?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, did you think she was hot?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah, that's a good yeah.
SPEAKER_04She's not bad though. She's just drawn that way.
SPEAKER_02She's just drawn that way. Patty cake.
SPEAKER_04Mine was. Do you want to guess what mine was? Um I I used to m ask my mom to cook dinner around when the show would come on so that it would either be before we ate or after we ate, but not at the same time. Because it came on at six.
SPEAKER_02Was it Ghost Rider? It's Full House. Full House. Oh.
SPEAKER_04Full House came on at six. At least here it did. And I would be like, please have dinner done before or after. I don't want to have to sit at the t try to watch this from the table. You know?
SPEAKER_02I was definitely big, big in full house, too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I also I also thought Uncle Jesse was hot.
SPEAKER_02He was probably um He was he was hot.
SPEAKER_04He was probably uh an early opposite sex awareness for me as well. Opposite sex awareness. That sounds like a PSA.
SPEAKER_02And Becky was kind of a she was a sort of a slow burn for me. Like I didn't I thought she was kind of I never I didn't think anything of her.
SPEAKER_04I never thought Steve was cute. I thought he was like goofball. Um I really didn't like it.
SPEAKER_02But nowadays I'm all about Lori Laughlin. Lori Laughlin.
SPEAKER_04Uh all right. Do you have any honorable mentions that you want to put up?
SPEAKER_02Uh I think I already said it. Oh. It was um Beetlejuice. I guess that would be a category of any time an entire group of kids should have gotten individually grounded, but instead of the case.
Batman And X-Men Cartoon Reverence
SPEAKER_04But because they were all doing what you got nothing. Well, my honorable mention was the Batman cartoon. It didn't have it didn't fit into any of these categories, but it it came on probably at 5 or 5 30, like right before Full House. I think it was like Animaniacs, another great show. And Batman cartoon, and then Full House, and then Family Matters or something. Maybe not Family Matters, maybe maybe Fresh Prince.
SPEAKER_02Maybe. I don't know. Um I never watched the Batman cartoon.
SPEAKER_04Are you serious? Yeah, I know. Did you ever want to?
SPEAKER_00I don't know why I didn't.
SPEAKER_04Well, my dad loved it, and my sister loved it, and then I just got into it as well. I heard it's a best episode. My favorite episode, because you know it's never there's never sunshine there. Ever, ever, ever. But there's one episode where Batman rescues kids from the sewer and they take the sewer thing lit off. It's the very end of the episode, and just for like a minute, as they're lifting the kids up out of the sewer, it's the sun is shining. It's like one of the only episodes where the sun is out in Gotham City.
SPEAKER_02We should do uh we should we should watch it. But I uh we'll talk about that.
SPEAKER_04But I'd also like to throw a love, a little bit of love towards the X-Men cartoon.
SPEAKER_02I was just about to say there's two there's two there's two TV shows cartoons that I would actually like to go back as an adult and watch again.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02And that's X-Men, and there's X-Men 97, which we started watching. Why did we st there's been a lot of shows we just quit watching, not because they were bad.
SPEAKER_04No, but because we have uh children.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, or something else came up, or like, oh, this just came out. Let's watch that and we'll go back to it. Like Resident Alien. We're not we're not dropping that, are we?
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_02Farscape?
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh, Farscape. I'd rather watch that than Resident Alien.
SPEAKER_02Would you really?
SPEAKER_04There's something about Resident Alien that makes me nervous about watching it.
SPEAKER_02It's a little like Dexter. Yes. It makes me it I get serious Dexter vibes off of it, which is another reason I like it. I love it.
SPEAKER_04It's very good. Once it's on and we're watching it, I'm always like, let's watch we could watch another one. But it's hard for me to. Get back into it.
SPEAKER_02But there's X-Men and X-Men 97 and then Batman. Because I've I've heard it's great. And Mark Hamill is the Joker, right?
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh, I've heard that but not known.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's like one of his most beloved roles. Wow. I'm almost positive it's including that cartoon. Maybe started that cartoon.
SPEAKER_04I loved that cartoon.
SPEAKER_02I heard it's great.
SPEAKER_04I mean, if I had not watched that cartoon, I don't think I would care much about the movies. That's probably not true because I love superhero stuff. But anyway. Alright, we better transition because we have been talking for one hour and 20 minutes.
Choosing She’s Leaving Home
SPEAKER_01Sergeant Sergeant Peppers.
SPEAKER_02Red What's that band with uh Anthony uh Quitus and Fly? Um Red Pepper.
SPEAKER_04Yep. I don't know what you're talking about. I love Red Pepper though.
SPEAKER_02The Red Hat Chili Peppers. I said Anthony Quitus and Fly.
SPEAKER_04Oh. Flea.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_04I wasn't listening. I was pulling up the album because I wanted to see at which point she's leaving home as well.
SPEAKER_02It was a half Tim and Eric reference.
SPEAKER_04Alright, well, I chose She's Leaving Home this week because I thought we could do it nicely because it has two singing parts. That's the thing, like a lot of times people I've said this a million times, but uh at my work as a music therapist, if I get requests for a lot of songs that are oldies, they're very hard for me to do alone because so much oldies music is groups, singing groups. Bands that have more than one singer, you know, girl groups, boy groups, and it's like Beach Boys is almost impossible to mention their own.
SPEAKER_02All the riffs and stuff, like where you gotta play like five instruments.
SPEAKER_04Which is kind of a sad commentary on today's music because it's a lot easier to do that by yourself. But anyway, that today, people the pop music of today is a bit more simplistic than it used to be. But anyway, so I was like, ooh, I want to do this Beatles song, and Rob can do we can sing, we can both sing it.
SPEAKER_02Good call.
SPEAKER_04And it's pretty, and it's off my favorite Beatles album.
SPEAKER_02Sgt. Pepper's your favorite Beatles album.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I think I said that last time, maybe. I've said it recently.
SPEAKER_02You have.
SPEAKER_04And that's the other thing, is I think it was one of my maybe it was a cover or it was a B-side or She's Leaving Home was sort of.
SPEAKER_02Yes, it definitely was. We've definitely talked about Sgt. Pepper before.
SPEAKER_04In the recent past. In the recent episodic, episodic past. Uh but it's yeah, it's I what I love about it, and maybe the other ones are this way too, but this one is just the way it goes from track to track, is just combs my brain.
SPEAKER_02Just the transitions and the way just the way it moves. Yes. It's got a theme.
SPEAKER_04Uh and this particular song is very beautiful. Has some interesting musical stuff going on. Well, I mean they all do, but has some interesting borrowed chords. And I hate the parents. I hate the mom. You hate the mom?
SPEAKER_02You know I hate the mom.
SPEAKER_05Please take a note.
SPEAKER_02Have you ever That's my top tip?
SPEAKER_04Oh no. Is it a child?
SPEAKER_02I don't care. I'll put it in the sky. Well, if it's a kid It won't come through um if it's a kid. It'll come through if it's a kid.
SPEAKER_04Okay, one kid's here, one kid's skiing.
SPEAKER_02Yes. So Okay. Uh yeah. The we're just parenting. Do you hate us now?
SPEAKER_04Um I don't hate parents. I hate parents that are that can relate to the parent in this song.
SPEAKER_02Have you ever read The Great Divorce? No. C. Is that C. S Lewis? It really, really reminds me of not just the mom. There's a mom in this story who is upset. It's basically just it it more or less, we'll just say it takes place in purgatory. For lack of a bet of a more intricate explanation, but it feels pretty intricate, actually. It's pretty intricate. Uh you're referencing C.S.
SPEAKER_04Lewis in Purgatory, so.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And I'm about to reference more.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god, yeah.
SPEAKER_02There's all these people who just refuse to let go of what they think basically just selfish relationships that they think are the right way and can't see it in the other way. And the these parents, the mom especially, just she's just smack dab one of these characters almost. Uh huh. Sure. Almost exactly.
SPEAKER_04I feel like I've read excerpts from it, maybe. It feels very it's a good book.
SPEAKER_02Um yeah, I really liked it.
SPEAKER_04Um is it a satire?
SPEAKER_02I mean, you could like the letters. It feels more of a plea.
SPEAKER_04Ah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I haven't read it then.
Parenting Lyrics And Real Story Origins
SPEAKER_02Um screw tape letters is maybe a little bit more of a satire. Yeah. But, anyways, uh, it very much reminds me of there's a wife in this and then a mother in this, and they're both kind of just in the in the Great Divorce. Claim yes, yeah. Claim to love their their their child, their son in this case, or or or husband, but the way they love them is basically they own them. It serves them, it serves them, and they just it's disgusting. But it's also related to the thing.
SPEAKER_04That's why when we were recording, we were doing a beautiful recording, but then you sang the wrong chorus, and I was like, I'm sorry, I need you to sing those words because it matters to the conversation I want to have about. That's okay. But but that's why that is why I was like, I would have let it go if it was just like a nut a different song, but that is like the what you're singing. I wanted to talk about that part.
SPEAKER_02That was the I was singing the third part, but I was supposed to sing the second part.
SPEAKER_04And I thought you were singing the first part again. We on We sacrificed most of our lives.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Uh well now I'm blur now I'm blending them. The the way they transition between I'm gonna grab the the lyrics.
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh, he's leaving screen. He's breaking the fourth wall. Yeah, he probably is crashing into something right now. I wish you guys could see what I could see right now. It features butt. It's a butt. It features butt.
SPEAKER_00Uh have you tried the butt?
SPEAKER_04Oh, no butt.
SPEAKER_02It's uh ladies' man. Okay. Uh it we didn't know it was wrong. No, that part is a little more of a okay. Poor poor thing.
SPEAKER_04It's the middle one down there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we never thought of ourselves.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02Of course, when I was singing, I said we never thought for ourselves.
SPEAKER_04Well, that's okay. I I missed a word or here and there.
SPEAKER_02So uh never thought for ourselves. We struggled hard all our lives. That's not the actually, I'm thinking um uh we gave her most of our lives.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we sacrificed most of our lives.
SPEAKER_02Why would they say she's a it's it's say it's changes from we or our to my and it just it just screams selfishness. I can't. It's I'm bad at I'm bad at reading.
SPEAKER_04What did we do that was wrong? We didn't know it was wrong. Fun is the one thing money can't buy. No, it's it's uh She's we gave her No, it's not there's no my there's a there's a part where yeah it is.
SPEAKER_02Keep talking, I'll find out.
SPEAKER_04There isn't.
SPEAKER_02There is.
SPEAKER_04Oh, it's it's when it's when father it's why would she treat us so thoughtlessly?
SPEAKER_02Yes. How could she do this to me? Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I feel like that's a Well, and then it says she's been living alone. She after she's leaving home after living alone, and I'm like, that's a sad commentary because she's living with her mom and dad, but she's alone.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, good call. This is do you know it's kind of based on a true story?
SPEAKER_04About which one of them?
SPEAKER_02Uh about well well, Paul technically, but let me explain. There was a there was a girl named Melanie Coe, who was she was 17 years old. They he read about it in the paper. She was 17 years old, she ran away from home, and the father's quote to the press was I cannot I cannot imagine why she would run away. She she has everything here. And he kind of ran with that like I got in a second.
SPEAKER_04Does she?
SPEAKER_02Right. And a funny thing is, is uh three years, I think it was three years earlier, she met Paul McCartney.
SPEAKER_03Oh wow.
SPEAKER_02At a completely unrelated thing, had nothing to do with it. She was on uh I don't know if I wrote it down. I should have uh but uh look it up sometime. Melanie Coe and Paul McCartney. It's just kind of a uh coincidence.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, did not know that. Um learned something new on this channel, guys. See, you do like this show after all.
SPEAKER_01See?
Sgt Pepper Favorites And Arrangement Drama
SPEAKER_04See, we uh didn't just trying to drown her.
SPEAKER_02See, I love that so much. Anyways, uh this is is this your favorite song on the album?
SPEAKER_04No. I think Sgt. Pepper's my favorite song. Is it really? Yeah. I just love that French horn on this killer.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I I also like Hendrix's favorite song too, because he uh three days after this album came out, he came out and and I think some of the Beatles, I'm just gonna say Paul and John, fact check this, but he he came out on stage and played Sgt. Pepper.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_02After three days after it been out, and that was it. They were like that was a huge like, oh wow, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I also like a day in the life.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yeah. I mean, that's a really, really good song.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Honestly, this is uh I it would probably be in my top ten favorite albums of all time, which wow, you have a Beatles album on your top ten list. What a cool person, unique person you must be.
SPEAKER_02Let me ask you this. Would it be on would it rank higher if it also had Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields on it?
SPEAKER_04I don't care.
SPEAKER_02Because it originally did.
SPEAKER_04Oh, really? I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_02And then they split it off into singles. There was like a deal back then where they they tend to keep their singles separate from the main album. So they sort of did that, but then they mixed it into the which is uh I think the follow-up album to Sgt. Pepper.
SPEAKER_04No, I just know it as I know it, so I don't care if there's things missing from it because I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_02The what'd you think about the um the orchestra? What did you think about the arrangement?
SPEAKER_04No, it's beautiful. We did not try to recreate violins and harps. Sorry.
SPEAKER_02A little bit. I try to call it.
SPEAKER_04I think that line is a cello. Da da da da da da da da da.
SPEAKER_02Oh, is it?
SPEAKER_04I think. I think. You know, if I'm wrong, write it in the comments.
SPEAKER_02You covered the harp part with the beginning on the piano. I did. I'm glad you did that. I kept trying to do it on the I it's hard to do with both. Yeah, it's it's quick and I it's a big jump. I was trying to play it, match the tone. I could do it at half speed, real cool and do it with octaves, and it sounded neat, but it is not at whole speed. I'm glad you did it. Much, much easier and it sounded better. But the uh I did try to do the the that syncopated. I love this part where it's the it's all the violins. It sounds way cooler when they do it.
SPEAKER_04It's like and it's like where the parents are discovering she's gone and they're saying, How could she do this to me?
SPEAKER_02And it's that's that's so great. Uh, but but this was done. So George Martin, who normally arranged, he's like the genius behind a lot of the instruments that aren't because like no one played anything. No beetle played no one played anything on this album. No one, neither of them, so Ringo and George didn't do anything on this song. Lennon sang, McCartney sang. They didn't do anything else.
SPEAKER_03Really?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Wow. But it was the rest of it was pure uh Phil Harmon's game. George R. R. Martin. George R. Martin's gang. No, it actually it wasn't George Martin. It was, it was this was kind of a little bit of drama here.
SPEAKER_04Phil Har Har Martin.
SPEAKER_02It was Phil Har Martin. How did you do that?
SPEAKER_04Sorry, I hit my head on the microphone.
SPEAKER_02Um, it was uh Mike Leander, I think I'm saying his name right. He did this is the only Beatles song that Martin did not arrange.
SPEAKER_03Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_02Because McCartney wanted to throw this as as legend has it, McCarty wanted to get it going. George Martin, George R. Martin, Phil Hartman.
SPEAKER_04He was so busy writing Graham of Thrums. Graham of Thrums. And this is why we can't do 90 minutes. I'm hungry for Fredio.
SPEAKER_02He wanted to do he wanted to do the song. Martin wasn't available, so he just went ahead and did it. And I guess it kind of hurt his feelings. He went ahead and did a cover of it with David and Jonathan, which would have been it's it's worth listening to. First of all.
SPEAKER_04Sorry, David. I mean George.
SPEAKER_02Baby David and Jonathan. The David and Jonathan cover is worth listening to. First of all, it's not bad, but it's worth listening to because you could hear. If you're a big fan of the song and a big fan of George Martin, you could hear what it would have probably sounded like had he done it. Cool. Because he had something in mind, apparently.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I think that's a good one.
Best Covers Dream Covers B-Sides
SPEAKER_02It had like an oboe, and it's it's a bit more lean. It's a bit more. I'm stealing from what I've read, but it's a bit more Baroque. Um it's great. It's still great. Anyways, worth worth checking out.
SPEAKER_04Well, you guys go listen to it.
SPEAKER_02Can I talk about the covers I listen to? Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And then we have to talk about the other things, and then we have to be done.
SPEAKER_02That's right. And we will be, and it's gonna be great, honey. Just you and me. So I listened to has been over 90 minutes. Just Harry Nilsson. Okay. Listen to him do it. Pretty good. Uh worth worth listening to. I know the Beatles were a fan, and they might have been a fan of him because he covered the song. I don't know. Maybe they maybe got to their head. Um, David and Jonathan had talked about that. Billy Bragg and Kara Tivy, Tyvey. Um, probably Tyvey. Uh, that is one where I when I heard you play the piano, the intro, like the heart part. Yeah. You played that better than Billy Bragg, in my opinion. I did. I think so. Sorry, Billy.
SPEAKER_04You must be terrible.
SPEAKER_02Well, it that was more of a not to not to put to throw Billy under the under the bus.
SPEAKER_04Proverbial bus.
SPEAKER_02But just to say that you well, because I was trying to tell you your version sounds great. Let's just go with it. And you were like, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_04And I threw myself on the ground and had a temper tantrum and said, This better never see the light of day.
SPEAKER_02Only like some of that happened.
SPEAKER_04Um I did say that though.
SPEAKER_02Richie, but you weren't on the ground. There's too many ladybugs down there.
SPEAKER_04I wanted to be. There's no room in here.
SPEAKER_02Richie Havens does a version of this. Wow. You know what? I know you don't like Richie Havens, but but I do. Have you ever heard him do uh No, I'm sure I haven't.
SPEAKER_04Say it though.
SPEAKER_02Well now I can't remember. It was uh it's a Bob Dylan song, um Just uh uh Just Like a Woman. You know that song Just Like a Woman? Okay, well anyways, if you like Just Like a Woman, listen the Richie Haven's version of Just Like a Woman, listen to this Beatles song.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02I'll Richie Haven's version because it's got a very similar feel. Okay. Pianos doing similar things, strong pattern's the same. He's singing both parts. It's pretty good. It's it's it's good. Um worth listening to. Flaming lips? Do a cover of it.
SPEAKER_04Is that good?
SPEAKER_02It sounds like if I don't know. I don't know if I want to use this, but it sounds like if uh no, kind of. I mean it's not so it's not a surprise.
SPEAKER_04It's very like um That's a good I should have come up with them on my own, but continue.
SPEAKER_02It sounds like if this was for a soundtrack in Adventure Time. That kind of uh techno pop kind of sound. Cool. It's Flaming Lips and I don't know these other folks, but Phantogram, Juliana Barwick, it's a female vocals on the singing the whole thing, and Space Face. Cool. Trip hop, that's what it's like.
SPEAKER_04You guys like 808s kind of I wish I had thought of the flaming lips for my cover.
SPEAKER_02Hey, but you know, we got to talk about them.
SPEAKER_04I know, but they're so they have a they have a the a knack for ethereal uh kind of music that kind of drifts like that would have fit.
SPEAKER_02We're gonna do Yoshimi at some point.
SPEAKER_04We need to do Yoshima.
SPEAKER_02Battle of the Pink Robots, yeah. Good too. We saw Flaming Lips anyway. You've seen Yoshim.
SPEAKER_04Yoshimi battles the pink robots.
SPEAKER_02What did I say?
SPEAKER_04Battle of the pink robots?
SPEAKER_02I don't know if I said that.
SPEAKER_04He did. We can verify that.
SPEAKER_02I didn't think it.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02You can't prove that wrong.
SPEAKER_04That's true. Intent has no place.
SPEAKER_02Real quick, uh Brad. I don't know how to say his name. Mel Maldo, I'm gonna say. M-E-H-L-L-D-A-U Trio. That's a nine-minute jazz instrumental.
SPEAKER_04Ooh, sounds pretty.
SPEAKER_02It was really good. He's a great piano player.
SPEAKER_04Is that who's getting your award?
SPEAKER_02He's probably gonna get my nobody award, even though he's not really a nobody. Technically, he has less than 50,000 subscribers, but he has won a Grammy.
SPEAKER_04Oh.
SPEAKER_02So he's not really he's out of the running. I know, but I I I I I ran I didn't listen to any but real amateurs.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02This is great, though. Like this is if you like, if you like jazz, and it's it's a little, I wouldn't say it's avant-garde, but it's a little out there as far as jazz. It'd be like Bill Evans. If you like Bill Evans, uh uh his name is uh Brad Brad Meldow.
SPEAKER_04Meldo Meldao, I think is how you would say that.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, it's real jazzy, but he plays all the vo voicings of of both parts. Both parts, and then some.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Wonderful.
SPEAKER_02You know, that's great. I love that. It's one of my favorite covers I've listened to. And then uh the Bee Gees is a cover of it.
SPEAKER_04Not that wasn't for you.
SPEAKER_02Not great. No.
SPEAKER_04Bee Gees. It's nice to hear that like if super famous people who covers and they're not the best. Makes me feel better.
SPEAKER_02I always have to mention uh McJagger before. He's not the greatest cover artist. Um unless he's doing like an old blue song or something. ED209. It sounds like the Bee Gee's version sounds like of ED209 from Mobile Cup sang sang it.
SPEAKER_04And just kept saying 10 minutes. Countdown.
SPEAKER_0210 seconds.
SPEAKER_04Ten seconds. 10 minutes. You have 10 minutes to put that gun down. Okay.
SPEAKER_01All right. All right. Um Well, do you want to hear who I want to who my cover was gonna be?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I do.
SPEAKER_01So dream cover.
SPEAKER_04And especially, especially today.
SPEAKER_02But you don't feel well.
SPEAKER_04This has been a fun podcast. Oh, but I mean, just I never who I chose for both my cover and my B side.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_04I would like to do because I I wanted to try, I was trying to think of a modern day band that has more than one singer. There just aren't a lot. So what I came up with was I'd like to hear Fun and AJ R get together and do this.
SPEAKER_02Hmm.
SPEAKER_04Fun is one person, AJR is three people.
SPEAKER_02I feel like AJR, I thought I th I I think I get the two confused a lot. I'm like, is this fun? And you're like, no, it's AJR. Yeah. Are they the ones that say like the the the smallest violin or whatever? Yeah, yeah. They say that.
SPEAKER_04They say it. They say it a couple times.
SPEAKER_02It's a good song, though. Um who's your cubs? I was thinking after listening to Nilsen and uh Richie Havens, I thought I'd like to hear Jim Crocey do it.
SPEAKER_04Who would do the other part though?
SPEAKER_02Um welly. What's his name? No, I don't actually know how to say his last name. I've only seen it written. Mulesin. He died in the same crash that killed Jim Crocey. He was his guitar guy, and he also arranged a lot of the songs. I think he sang.
SPEAKER_04So they can come to our concert and do this together?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02Croce had a lot of background, he had background singers and stuff. I'm gonna I'm I didn't plan for this, but um Croce, his whatever his go-to group was.
SPEAKER_04That's who's gonna sing.
SPEAKER_02And they're gonna do a great job, Jim. You got it. You got this, buddy. Oh, yes. Time time in a bottle. Time in a bottle. So that's actually I I I did the whole Havens thing. That's not what made me think of it. The thing that made me think of it was the opening to Time in a Bottle. It sounds very harp-like. Very harp-like, very similar. And uh I like that song. I do too. It's a great song. But uh yeah, crouchy.
SPEAKER_04All right.
SPEAKER_02B-side, what's yours?
SPEAKER_04I just I had to. I had to. Cats in the cradle.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's a good one. It's perfect. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04That's um It's a little too on the Joe, of course.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, it is. Yeah. It's uh no, that's great.
SPEAKER_04Well, it's yours.
SPEAKER_02It's very on the nose. On the nose is not bad. On the nose is actually probably better than mine.
SPEAKER_04Okay, what's yours?
SPEAKER_02Uh I'm thinking. Well, first let me tell you what it's not. Do you know who Malcolm Arnold is? Sir Malcolm Arnold. He's a British composer.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Is it because we're over 90 minutes?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we're real over it.
SPEAKER_02Scottish Dance is number three. Reminds me of the opening. Forget it. Um, Elton John, someone saved my life tonight.
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh, I almost said Elton John and Lady Gaga for my cover.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that'd be great. Well, yeah, someone saved my life tonight. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04That's a good song. But it's a great song.
SPEAKER_00Too many years. I always wanted to go, someone save my love.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Sugar bear. Yes. But it's also like thematically, I can almost see it being The Girl Goes On. Uh-huh. Because you know what that song's about? Uh Ellen John?
SPEAKER_04Is it not about his significant other? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well it it is, but it's about him sp not marrying her. Like I don't remember the woman's name, but a real woman. He was he was having he was gonna get married, but you know, he's he's not right for women. Yeah, or he's bisexual or whatever the case was or slash is. Um and his I don't remember the guy's name, but somebody he was starting to get kind of like suicidal, I think. Oh and somebody gave him the advice just don't do this, don't do this, don't do it. And it made me think maybe that's what the girl goes into after she leaves. You know, she she finds out the hard way, and then you know, maybe she makes up with her parents afterwards. Yeah, no, she just comes up with new adult. And then the mom die and then the mom dies because Kurt Kurt uh what's his name?
SPEAKER_04I don't know.
SPEAKER_02For Bobo Copic blows her arm off.
SPEAKER_04Oh, her hand first, though. Her hand first. Uh okay, and then soundtrack.
SPEAKER_02Soundtrack. Soundtrack uh what the heck did I have for my soundtrack? You go first.
SPEAKER_04Okay. This is so stupid. But I don't know, I don't think I can ever find it, but in my mind I remember watching an old version of City Mouse and Country Mouse. And I think it would go nicely over the country mouse.
SPEAKER_02Whoa. I like that. I rem I'm sure there's a million versions of that, but I feel like I probably saw I really liked there.
SPEAKER_04It had to be the same. It was, we'll just say that it was the same. And it's for that.
SPEAKER_02Cool.
SPEAKER_04Which was yours.
SPEAKER_02I won't take you, I won't say all the thanks. Okay, good, because I'm just gonna say the maybe the wrestler. You're gonna be like, Oh, that Mickey Roar? Yeah, Mickey Roar. Did you ever see that?
SPEAKER_04I don't think so.
SPEAKER_02I don't really want to spoil the ending, but there's this part where he jumps off the turnbuckle and he's kind of just basically jumping into what he knows and saying goodbye to everything. Okay. I'll just leave it at that. I think that's a pretty cool application.
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