The Audience Won't Like It

We Watched MST3K Mitchell with All the Commercials | Ep 27

Rob and Leslie Shoecraft

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We put Mystery Science Theater 3000 under a microscope by watching Mitchell and letting the riffs and a full block of mid-90s VHS commercials reshape the whole experience. Then we switch gears to The Kinks’ Waterloo Sunset, from the riff and harmony to the lyrics, the covers, and the one performance that finally proved the song can be messed up. 
• Debating theme songs that explain the premise 
• People Under The Stairs listening notes and the interlude problem 
• Quick reactions to Oppenheimer and the “what have I done” theme 
• A marriage license trip derailed by a baton at courthouse security 
• Why MST3K jokes hit and why Mitchell is perfect fodder 
• The 90s Comedy Central commercial block as pure nostalgia 
• Waterloo Sunset musical details, “chilly chilly,” and chord moves 
• The lyric interpretation split between sweet and unsettling 
• Cover versions we recommend plus ones we do not 
• Our dream cover picks, B-side picks, and soundtrack vibes 
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Cold Open And Theme Song Talk

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On this episode of The Audience Won't Like It, uh Albert Einstein's in it? The real? Uh yeah, the real one. That's basically what the movie was about.

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Other than they just had like a wild weekend with Albert Einstein's dead body. Is that what it was about? Gotcha.

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Yeah. He's not a bad-looking dude.

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Alright. You big uh big Jodon guy girl.

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Jodon gal? Leslie is president, president of the uh Jodon gals. Walker Tex, they made it look like it's Walker Texas Ranger in space. Special thanks to Miss Miller. Never let me settle for a seat. As soon as I heard that, it was just like my uh 14-year-old self just zapped back into my butt.

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And you were like, is Waterloo a place?

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Yes. Well, Waterloo's a place. But what he's actually seen. It's a it's up until that point, I was like, I don't think you can screw up Waterloo Sunset because it's just that good of a song. Like as long as you can tell what it is, it's gonna hit. And then Ethan Hawk had to show up and freaking ruin things for me. Hey, how about uh how about a little theme song?

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Oh, are we going?

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Yeah, we're going.

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Okay, I'll have to come back to you, Macro Factor.

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Oh, did you want to uh did you want to finish logging your food?

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Nope, that's alright.

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Okay.

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I'm logging my food as a twin with my sister.

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Okay.

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Two married friends in a basement room.

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Um standing in line, standing in line with two microphones. They got in a car crash. She died in his arms. He kissed her lips cause she was still warm. It was the audience won't like it.

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No not.

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I married you for your warmth.

SPEAKER_03

Aw, that can't possibly be true. I'm the opposite of warm.

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That's not true. You're uh you well, you stay warm. Even if you're dead.

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That's true. I do stay warm post-death.

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It is one of my That is why I love you. You promised me that anyway. I we've yet to test it.

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It's an attribute I have. I'm worried about your microphone cord.

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What what what worries you the most?

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Uh that it's gonna get bumped and touched.

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You think so? Yeah. Bumped and touched? Mm-hmm. That's the new name of the podcast.

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Pap Daddy. It's Pop Daddy's number one single, bumped and stuff.

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Hang on, uh go ahead and uh vamp.

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All right, well, welcome to the show. My name's Leslie Shoecraft. This is my husband Rob Shoecraft.

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Hi.

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And he's my married news podcasting teammate. And he wrote that beautiful song where he changed some words. Sounded like he thought he would.

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We're just gonna keep it like that. Okay. Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

It sounded like he you had a plan to change the words. Wait, wait, wait, wait. But then you didn't actually flesh out the plan.

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I didn't practice. Uh-huh. Right. Yeah. And uh I should have. I thought right before I got on, I'm like, you know what? We're gonna we're trying to tighten up what the show's about.

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Yeah.

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And we we've gotten it down. I I won I want to, I've we've been we've been talking about theme songs a lot lately.

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We have, and I have some things to say.

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And what we're gonna talk about today with with Mystery Science Theater 3000. I like theme songs that explain what the show's about.

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So you don't table it.

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Well, can I talk about ours for a second? So I want to be able to tell people that this is well hey, what's your podcast about? It's a it's about standing in line for a concert.

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It is.

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It's a line simulation podcast.

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Which might be hands down one of the most exciting explanations of a podcast I've ever heard. Um but yeah, that's what we do. We uh we stand in line, we simulate standing in line, because we're actually both sitting right now.

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Isn't that odd?

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It is odd because we're both standard by nature.

SPEAKER_01

You're more of a standard than me, but we do you think someday like when we get a big bigger budget we can have like one like a velvet one of those big velvet rope girthy kind of yeah, so people don't cross over into where we are producing. Like our dog, all these or all these ladybugs. But we have a velvet rope coming over.

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Well, the ladybugs know not to cross the velvet rope.

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They never seem to know anything I want them to do.

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No, which is to leave.

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Which is to die.

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Do you hear me, ladybug?

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So that's a little inside joke if you're never family. You get that.

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Um Yeah, so what we do here is we wait in line for a concert. And we're actually we're actually just waiting for the doors to open. We have seats. But since the doors aren't open yet, we're just like kind of milling about the lobby, you know, just kind of talking to some people here and there, and we're small talking and and uh, you know, we usually hit a main topic. Today we are gonna be talking a little bit about mystery science theater, but with some added bonuses.

SPEAKER_01

Mystery sci yeah. Oh, we we're we're not gonna tell them what it is.

SPEAKER_03

We're just gonna I'm I'm probably gonna put it in the intro because uh I've been working on I wasn't saying like and don't tell them what it is, but like it's not just mystery science theater, you guys. There's extra stuff about it.

SPEAKER_01

But I can't tell them, I can't tell you what it is yet.

SPEAKER_03

No, I want you to save it out. But you can tell it, you can put it in the intro.

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Santa Remember that it's from the movie we watched.

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Oh, yeah, that's who sent sent the link. But then what what we're waiting in line for is to see a a band or a musician every week. It changes this week. It is the Kinks, but it's actually me and Rob.

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It's actually us. We're the we're Ray and Dave Davies. And we're gonna have a different outfits. Mm-hmm.

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This is my church outfit. And it's your church outfit. It is. And you have on blue under your shirt, too.

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I just had a little Fender Stratocaster covering me up.

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I didn't have anything.

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No, you're just sitting on the pew like a follower.

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I was just a user. Follower. Anyway, so welcome. We're glad you're here.

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Thank you so much.

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And just for a time check, it is 1250.

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All right, and we are all about 90 minutes sticking to the rails.

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We are magnetic on the magnetic bullet trains.

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Mm-hmm.

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See? All we do our arms?

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Is that what you that's what that is? That's a tr it's a train. That's definitely a train of some kind that you're doing there. I'm not sure.

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It's a th-th uh we are a family-friendly show.

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Just a little reminder to some of our co-hosts.

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Who? Groupers outside. The kids aren't home. I don't know who you could be talking to.

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Ladybugs.

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Can you hear me?

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So you hey did I so speaking of the intro, did you you saw it?

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I did, I loved it.

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I've been really working on my video editing skills. Uh skills, we'll throw that word around.

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Developing some videos.

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Developing is a nice way to put it. Yeah. Thank you.

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But it was great. I thought it was great.

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Well, I wanted to give a little shout out to um Alpit? A-L-P-I-T.

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Is that what you used?

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It's no, it's who I used. Uh that? Is that what that is?

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Oh, yeah, for sure.

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It's Japanese or something or other. But Alpit are. Mirai no you Yoru is our is our intro music, a little background. I think it was kind of fun, like a little video gaming.

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Is it free?

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Yes. Pixabay. Shout out to Pixabay if you're ever looking for sounds.

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Something that you and I are. Completely free.

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Sound that you can sound and music that you can use with royalty free. You don't have to give credit, but I wanted to give credit because I like the song. It's super cool.

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That was great. Reminds me. You're already going to have seen it by the time we talk about this, but we hope you appreciated it. If you did, we'd love it if you'd leave us a comment.

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We sure would.

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I'd love it if you'd leave an email.

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At gmail.com.

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Unless it's anything else, then it's the audience won't like it.

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I just bought the audience won't like it at dot com.

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At dot com?

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At dot com HTTP.

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I hope you did you use audience won't like it or the audience?

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I I missed let me just say, I'm gonna skip ahead a little bit and just say, don't look. If I were to hypothetically have watched a series about 45 minutes worth of 90s commercials yesterday, hypothetically.

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Hypothetically.

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I I would have gotten a lot of joy out of seeing so much HTTP colon forward slash, forward slash, and in advertisements. They slowly dropped that over the years. It's you know what I'm saying?

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I do.

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Yeah. Hypothetically, hypothetically.

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If if those hypothetical commercials were really like out of, let's say there were 25 commercials, but really only five, how many minutes would that have?

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I'd say, I'd say that didn't sound right. Dream on. Guys, you're gonna get that. You're gonna be laughing with us in about an hour.

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You're gonna be dreaming on so 45 minutes.

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About about 30. You know, we've got to get there. Let's get there.

Rap Album Nostalgia And Sampling

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Let's get there.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, let's talk about a couple things first. You know, you're standing in line. Hey, what have you been up to? You you watch anything good on uh hey, you listened to anything good lately?

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I'm gonna look up the album that I've been listening to.

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Yeah.

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Called Do you Do you know it? In a Piaple House. Oh if my mom listened, she would get that.

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Yeah, I get it. Is that Dr. Seuss?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I used to I used to that's that was another remember we were talking about if you when you couldn't read stuff?

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Yes.

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Is that on pod or on real life?

SPEAKER_01

Uh yeah, we were talking about On Pod. How I knew I didn't know what David the Gnome was. I knew what it I knew I liked it. I knew I liked the theme song, but I couldn't read the title screen, so yeah, couldn't ask for it. And I also, you know, there was no We had a book called The People In a People House by Dr.

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Seuss.

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Having memories of trying to read but not being able to read. Or at least knowing that there's you know Yeah.

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And I I asked if we could please read in a Piapple House.

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In a Piapple House. Yes. In a Piapple under the stairs.

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So the band we're gonna The Band. Are they a band?

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Gosh.

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Do they have musicians? No, not exactly.

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But Well, it's the Piapple under the stairs. And their album is O S T. What's that stand for?

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Original soundtrack.

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Oh yeah, that's right.

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It's kind of like the original soundtrack of their lives. It's it's got a lot of really ordinary backyard barbecue kind of things going on in it.

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Definitely.

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It's like the perfect amount.

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There's something called the backyard barbecue, isn't there?

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Is there?

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Uh no, I guess not, but I I didn't do it.

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Like, okay, so people under the stairs, people under the stairs, the group, not the movie, which sorry Vic Ving Rheims, which we both saw for some reason.

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Horror movie. Yeah. Heavy air quotes on the horror movie.

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And by the way, it has nothing they say that it has nothing to do with the movie whatsoever.

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They say.

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Yeah, Thess one and double K. Rest in peace, double K.

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Oh, having a double K.

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He died. I don't I don't know exactly how, but he wasn't Death comes for us all. It wasn't old enough for for it to not be tragic, I would say.

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Sorry, KK.

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So they both, yeah, I don't I'm not a people under the stairs expert. I just love everything I've ever listened to. I've been listening to him for about oh when did I work in Columbus ICC? Was it 2007?

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Yeah.

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Let's just say I was I was talking I was I was in fixing somebody's computer. Yeah, something like that.

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Yeah.

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I was fixing somebody's computer. I think his name was Chris. Shout out to Chris.

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Yeah.

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And he said, uh, hey Rob, you like you like people under the stairs? Well, I said, the movie? And he said no. He said, here, he played, he did actually didn't play anything off this album. He played a song called Gamin' on you. Which by anybody else would have been the cheesiest, stupidest thing. But they made it so cool. And you could tell everything they do is like in anybody else's hands would be cheesy. But they make it just fun because they're having it. And it's just like Gamin' on you, what it is is again not on this album, but check it out. I should have made you listen to it. Um, I should have asked you to listen to it. But it's like all these retro uh video game beats, retro video game like MIDI music with their beats.

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You know how Rob loves MIDI if you've been with us for a while.

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I do. And and that, but they're rap, and they're rapping about going to the arcade, and they're just they make so many video game references, but they're so well done.

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And this whole thing doesn't sound cheesy to me, actually.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you you know, you see a lot of stuff, here's a lot of stuff like that, and it's like you want to classify it in like parody, parody, like, or this this is just dumb, or this is funny and clever, but I'm not gonna seriously listen to it. They have somehow, through all their music, have bridged silly and funny and clever with stuff you just really want to you just really enjoy it. I think it's really accessible, but what did you think?

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Well, there were some tracks I hated and skipped.

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Okay, why'd you hate them?

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Uh I I don't like any. This is a total of like a lot of rap albums. I hate that filler stuff.

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Oh, the interludes and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I well, honestly, I usually skip them too.

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But I'll tell you, do you want to guess which one is my favorite song?

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Except for like the the ones off like doggy style.

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Like which one do you think is my favorite song? I want to be a hus.

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I'm gonna say your favorite song is not outrage. That's one of mine. It's probably not the dig.

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I did like the dig.

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I love the dig. I love everything.

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But the dig is almost like The Dig, I feel like we did we talk about that song a while ago when you were like literally talking about looking for albums.

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Cess one is a big thing. Right, that's what that's about. Yes, yeah. They they they spent they spent, I think they said they spent like$2,000 at like yard sales and stuff just buying records.

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Listening to them?

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And listening to them to find beats. Like that this has so many I want to get to your song in a in a second. It's not Montego Slay by any chance, is it? No. So Montego Slay, for instance, it's got like 20 Japanese, not Japanese, Jamaican like jazz and funk obscure tracks on it, but it's all sampled and stitched together, and it's it's so funky, man. Like everything they do is I I love samples well done. Like, have you ever listened to Paul's boutique of Beastie Boys? I think you probably have used in Okay.

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I don't know what things are called.

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Just that's tons and tons and tons of samples. Um, anyways, they do that really, really, really well. That's kind of their thing. That's what the dig's about. But your favorite song? Acid raindrops? Nope. LA song.

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Nope.

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Um we just say it?

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Yeah. Hang loose.

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Oh my gosh. Can I tell you something?

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Did you think that would be it?

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No. Uh that's one of my least favorite songs.

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Oh, wow. Here's why. Breaking up.

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Here's why. I love the song. I think it's awesome.

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You know how like you know It was the only one that caught my attention more than once when I listened all the way through the album a few times.

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Here's what I'm gonna say. Rick Steves. I really want to listen to Rick Steves. He has great content. He's a he's by the way, he's a travel.

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He's a travelsman.

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A travel, what would you call him? A T a personality who takes deep dives on the city.

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He's a professional touring tourism travel.

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Trovessional. The quality of his voice, it gets.

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Did they do that on Pang Loose?

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So I want to watch it, but I can't. Hang Loose has a very similar kind of thing. There's this dude, every three seconds goes, Oh, and I just after twenty times, I got, I can't, I can't do it anymore. And I want to listen to the rest of the s. I have heard the song a couple of times. I will say super great song.

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I was listening to this album when I was cleaning the deep cleaning the children's bathroom the other day, because that's what cool podcast hosts do. Um and I did keep thinking that someone was trying to get my attention, and I realized it was that song.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But it's such a distraction.

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It to me it's the most funky fun. It's a great funky, but like it's got a super old school feel.

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It's lean, but it's just very funky. That's other music you could dance to it. You could play it, it's got like just the right amount of F-words, would you say?

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I had there's a few I had to skip that just a little too many answers. A little too much?

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Yeah. Okay. But generally, like you've heard, like I've played a lot of Scarface, you know. Right, I've heard a lot I don't like.

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This didn't quite hit me that way.

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Gotcha.

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But I liked it, it was great.

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Nice. So your favorite song was Hang Loose. Um, cool. Do you want to move on? We should probably should keep real quick.

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Are they still doing stuff? No, because Double K is.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, right, because the one that they um they have they put out like 12 albums. I this is the one I've by far listened to the most. Um I've listened to just a handful of like, you know, top 30 playlists and stuff that like Pandora would play.

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Have you ever tried syncing this album up with the horror movie People Under the Stairs?

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Oh, the third.

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I feel like we're gonna have to try that.

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I'm gonna guess that's a new line cinema movie. I'm just just just guessing. On the on the as soon as this the the the film snaps on, that's when you want to play play.

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I think that's right.

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I have to move the sorry. Uh for the very few out there who don't catch that reference. That would be a pink floor dark side of the moon.

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If you don't know that, get out of here. You're not for us.

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Um have you actually done that?

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No. Have you? Yeah. Did you do it in collage?

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Uh no, uh well, yeah, but also high school. It is pretty cool. It is pretty cool, and they actually uh referenced Lunatic on the Grass from Brain Damage. It's an on the on that song, and Mystery Science Theater, which we watched last night.

Oppenheimer Reactions And Big Consequences

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Alright, let's go on.

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I watched Oppenheimer.

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Yes.

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I'm not gonna go into a ton of details. Um did you talked a little bit about it last night? I did. I I very much enjoyed it. It's like every other Christopher Nolan movie for me, really, really exceptionally solid, but I'm always kind of wondering. I don't why don't I see it the same way that everybody else is. Why don't I I don't see the 13 Oscar nominations? I think it's a beautifully well-made movie. The acting is phenomenal. I called him uh Cillian Murphy last week. I'm just Killian, yeah.

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Um I didn't correct you last week because I didn't catch it. That's why. Because Leslie didn't catch it corner.

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You I I look the whole reason that I'm here to need you here is to need me, is to catch me.

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That's right. So sorry, Killian. Unsubscribe.

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I I mentioned Josh Hardin, I think was at his finest. This is probably a good one.

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Yeah, we did talk about that last week.

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Um Robert Downey Jr.'s in it. He's a twerp.

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Is he Iron Man?

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Uh yeah, he plays Iron Man. It's uh yeah, Iron Man. He's Iron Man. Um multiples. Yeah. Uh Albert Einstein's in it.

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The real?

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Uh yeah, the real one. They it's kind of similar to what we do at our concert.

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Oh, is that where they picked him up from?

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Yeah. They had him concert rehearsal. They did like a week in a it was uh weekend and Albi Albert's. And old old uh well, old Cillian in this case. Yeah, yeah. If you know how I'm spelling it, um had a one arm and then and then of course Josh Hartnett was on Hartnett. That's basically what the movie was about.

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Um other than that They just had like a wild weekend with Albert Einstein's dead body. Is that what it was about? Gotcha.

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Yeah.

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Oh, I don't know why you thought I wouldn't like that.

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Yeah, you know, on second thought, we really should have watched it together.

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We should have.

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But there were some other stuff, some some themes of like um, you know, great minds, creating great men, creating great things, and with awful outcomes and giving them to, you know, machines that just want whatever. And uh to put the the way Sean Fennessey put it, I think, uh, on The Big Picture. He's a it's a podcast I like a lot. They if you really want to hear somebody talk about Oppenheimer, listen to him and Amanda Dobbins and Chris Ryan talk about it on The Big Picture. Just it's from a couple of years ago. But um he he he makes a connection that Christopher Nolan made it from Oppenheimer's perspective, so he put this new nuclear bomb, basically led the the Los Alamos project to build the nuclear bomb, which you know the rest went. And it's just like what did I do? Kind of there's a lot of that, right? And there's a lot more to the movie than though, but um he uh Sean Fantasy compared it to Christopher Nolan putting basically creating the new blueprint for what comic book movies are in in Batman with the Christian Bale series, yeah. And then when Marvel took it over, he's just like, What what have I done? Yeah, so I thought it was really clever. But it's honestly very much what what at least at least a lot of the movies are about. I do recommend it if you like Christopher Nolan, absolutely. If you don't like war movies or biopics of any kind, not for you. I just don't. I it has a lot of appeal that I think you would like. I I mentioned a lot at least in the first part. I d I don't think you like the movie very much. Um I I did enjoy it though. I I did enjoy it all the way through. It's not that I'm knocking it, I just it's not in my.

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I'd love to look into that. I don't I shouldn't even bring up because I don't have any information. But I I do think there's a lot of conspiracy around award awards nominations and stuff.

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Yes. I don't really pay much attention to him, but you care.

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I do not care about stuff like that at all.

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But there definitely is. And there's a lot of the whole, you know, rewarding somebody for a a good career. You know, like sure. Like, but you know, like Jack Pallants and City Slickers. Did you ever see C City Slickers?

SPEAKER_03

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01

He got an Oscar for it. Not to take it away from Jack Pallance, but he was in it for like 15 minutes and it really wasn't. You know, like that kind of stuff. Um, sorry to pick on. He can cut hey, Jack, if it's any consolation.

SPEAKER_03

Is he dead?

SPEAKER_01

He can come to our concert. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, well, he could super come.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely.

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Cool. Awesome. Great.

Bridgerton Notes And Corrections Corner

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What have you been doing?

SPEAKER_03

Uh, I don't have anything to report.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_03

I finished Bridgerton.

SPEAKER_01

Well, okay.

SPEAKER_03

It was the second half was better than the first half, significantly, in my opinion. And it was you know, it was the trash I wanted it to be, I guess. Still not as good as the first and second seasons. I will say that.

SPEAKER_01

Would you consider them the trash you wanted it to be? The first and second seasons? Yeah. Or has it be the first one?

SPEAKER_03

I feel like they were just better overall.

SPEAKER_01

So not even trash?

SPEAKER_03

The romance between the first two couples was way more believable than the romance has been in episode three and four. I don't I don't know that I I guess it means they're bad actors. I don't believe it. That's why I'm not sure. I just don't believe that Colin or Benedict are in love with their respective partners.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe maybe you see something that the There's a lot of agenda. Sorry.

SPEAKER_03

Whether you I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Can you remind me not to drink uh carbonated water on the microphone? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Or actually we could turn this into just to a burping show.

SPEAKER_03

That's true, we could.

SPEAKER_01

How how messed up do you think my just general apparatus is pretty bad. If I just spent two hours burping once a week.

SPEAKER_03

Terrible.

SPEAKER_01

What if it was just for two minutes?

SPEAKER_03

Nothing. Start there, see where it goes. Okay. Does that mean our podcast will just be whatever we're at now plus two more minutes? Don't look so excited. Does that mean that? No, that's all that's really all I could care to report.

SPEAKER_01

Um I there's a couple of rap things I missed. Uh by the way, if if you are one of the few who are familiar with Corrections Corner and how much time we spent on that in the beginning of the uh of the episodes, uh-huh. Check it out on Instagram. It will be there someday. All the corrections corner.

SPEAKER_03

Uh what episode's coming out tomorrow?

SPEAKER_01

25.

SPEAKER_03

Is this 27 that we're recording right now? Yes. Okay. So 25 should have a corrections corner post.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, beautiful.

SPEAKER_03

Because I think that's the first one that you sent me.

SPEAKER_01

But there was a couple Rob missed it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Did we get we get any new subscribers?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, a couple.

SPEAKER_03

What are we up to? 31? 30?

SPEAKER_01

30, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then did was there any comment? Any new comments?

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't want, guys.

SPEAKER_03

But not mean ones.

SPEAKER_01

Uh community episode. You said I don't remember exactly. I I said I was talking about G.I. Joe, and you said the commun you said community, and I said Flint and Roadblock in the morning. And I didn't realize that you were referencing the actual community episode until I heard you saying it. That was a great episode.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. We I we could have turned it turned the podcast into that.

SPEAKER_03

You could have really turned it around.

SPEAKER_01

I would have loved to have talked about that.

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Instead of that piece of crap it ended up being.

SPEAKER_01

Country Joe McDonald died. Familiar with his work?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_01

You know what you are. You know why?

SPEAKER_03

Did he write Mitchell?

SPEAKER_01

Because uh he did not. He wrote the song for it. Um, which we should talk about. No, he wrote actually the guy who wrote the theme song for Mitchell also wrote what was it?

SPEAKER_03

You can save it for what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01

Um Country Joe McDonald, he they sampled him in um in OST. The something I don't know about marijuana. You know that remember that sample? Yeah, that's him. I'm almost positive that's him. Good morning. No.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no. That's not him.

SPEAKER_01

That's not him. That's a great song. We should do that song. That's uh Guthrie, I believe.

SPEAKER_03

A Woody Guthrie?

SPEAKER_01

Arlo. Arlo. Yeah. Wait.

SPEAKER_03

I think they're broths.

SPEAKER_01

Phew. Good morning. Uh talk talk for a sec. Talk about brothers.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Well, I don't have any. And Rob has one. And his name is Joe. And he's also a musician. And he can play a banjo. That's why his name is Joe. That's what he was. Your mom and dad named him after.

SPEAKER_01

After a banjo. A banjo. A banjo named Joe. Yeah, Arlo Guthrie. Oh, City of New Orleans. Banjo Shoecras. Yes, thank you. Well done. What did you want to talk about banjo shoecrass?

SPEAKER_03

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_01

And I actually kind of was able to follow it while typing.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

This podcast is doing a lot for our brains. For mine.

SPEAKER_03

My brain's fine.

SPEAKER_01

Your brain remains fine. Just as it started.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I think that's about it. Oh, Tumbleweeds and Chewing Home.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, you were going to put that on here today?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I I you told me to listen to it yesterday.

SPEAKER_03

I was really I I um I rarely do this, but I let Apple feed me new songs. Like new songs, not new to me songs, but new songs. I will say though, it has a lot of new releases of old songs that I don't want on. I don't when I'm listening to like a I want to hear new music, don't give me a remastered version of a 50-year-old song.

SPEAKER_01

That drives me nuts. I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_03

Anyway, they came, there's a song, Who is the girl?

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna ask you that.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. There's a new Willie Nelson song out where he sings a little duet call on a song called Tumbleweeds and Chewing Gum, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

And I only really wanted you to listen to it because I was struck with simultaneously how old and decrepit he sounds, but also like great.

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No.

SPEAKER_01

He's got, I mean, honestly, this is He's like 92 years old, isn't he? This is the obvious comparison, but you know, I thought Johnny Cash in his later years like that.

SPEAKER_03

Isn't he like 90? Willie Nelson?

SPEAKER_01

Gosh, he's gotta be. So it was hang on a second, it was Lily Miola.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. I've never heard of her. Um it's like a little country tune, and obviously.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he's uh now I gotta look it up. Willie Nelson, this is Corrections Quarter, live. Live? This is where Uncle Dan, this is where we need Uncle Dan. Um we just need him in general.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I meant to say at the top of the episode that when you where I was saying you that you like to stand, that no one can outstand Uncle Dan.

SPEAKER_01

If if Uncle Dan ever comes down here, we're gonna do our velvet line and we're gonna stand.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And then from that point forward, this will be a the standing in line simulation. We should probably go all in on that at some point.

SPEAKER_03

Standing up?

SPEAKER_01

We should just it should be a standing in line simulation.

SPEAKER_03

I would love to be standing right now.

SPEAKER_01

So we are standing in line the whole time.

SPEAKER_03

Can I have one of those telescopic canes that I can sit on though?

SPEAKER_01

You mean like the one I uh took into the uh uh No, not quite like that.

SPEAKER_03

City of Columbus Courthouse.

SPEAKER_01

City of Columbus Courthouse and Asp Steel Baton? Nope. No, not that.

SPEAKER_03

Do you want to tell that story?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Just gonna leave. Do you want to later listeners hanging?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I feel like there's gonna be a lot of talk about Mitchell.

SPEAKER_03

Oh.

The Courthouse Baton Marriage Story

SPEAKER_01

And I want to talk about Waterloo Sunset.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I want to have a nice conversation about it. I don't want to feel like I'm making you I wanna feel like I'm beating you over the head with just obscure crazy.

SPEAKER_03

I'll try to have a nice looking face while you're talking to me about it.

SPEAKER_01

I and also, you know, I don't know if the audience wants that. Right? And I don't want to give them the title. True. Right.

SPEAKER_03

You might not like it.

SPEAKER_01

So, um, do you would do you want me to tell the story real quick? Sure. It is a why don't you tell the story?

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so Rob and I were gonna get married twenty nigh on twenty-one years ago.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03

Probably about this time, summertime maybe.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

We had to go in.

SPEAKER_01

I had a short sleeve, sure.

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To get the marriage license.

SPEAKER_01

Polo, sure once.

SPEAKER_03

And we lived in Columbus, so we were gonna meet up at the Columbus Courthouse. So the first thing that happened is that we were driving separately and Rob pulled into a parking lot that was full.

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I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

And I was like, don't go because it was like super far away. I was like, don't park there, but I don't think we had phones. If we did, they weren't like handily available. Um you pulled into this parking lot. I'm pretty sure we had to pay to get out of it. So I was really mad because we couldn't even park there.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. This is all okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Started mad.

SPEAKER_01

So that was This is all I this I'm reliving it now. Do you remember that? Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Well, it makes you feel better. I feel like you always remember. Yeah. So then, and Rob Rob has has been, always will be sort of obsessed with weaponry. And I'm a mall ninja. Used to carry all kinds of stuff. You're a little bit more legit than a mall ninja.

SPEAKER_01

I am a I'm I will always forever be a mall ninja.

SPEAKER_03

You can identify with a mall gent.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, I mean I can do stuff too. I've been to some fights, I suppose.

SPEAKER_03

So he always has some various weaponry on his person. I just was used to it. But uh so we finally park and get to the um City of Columbus Courthouse. So it's not like a small town operation. And we're like going through security, and Rob reveals that he has a nightstick, a telescoping nightstick in his pocket, which it fully like collapsed, was still like eight inches long, big thick piece of metal. Then you hold it in your hand.

SPEAKER_01

Almost like a line, like a velvet line rope.

SPEAKER_03

Almost just like that. And then you hold it in your hand and you throw it out, and it would open up to be like, I don't know, a foot and a half.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I think this was 18. Yeah, foot and a half. Well done.

SPEAKER_03

Well, and then it was just a big solid heavy piece of metal, like a baton you could start. There's an ask if you're familiar with it. You could beat people to death with. So I don't even remember because as soon as I saw you pull that out, I was like, I said hey, I'm out of here.

SPEAKER_01

I said, can I just I don't know through security?

SPEAKER_03

Why you thought it was I was like, oh, oh, I it was like we were combing up. I was like, go put that back in the car. You're like, no, I'll just leave it with them. I was like, you can't just like check your weapons out there. That's what I said.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I said, can I check this? He's like, it was like a kind of an older guy. The security.

SPEAKER_03

Uh I'm like having all kinds of feelings right now.

SPEAKER_01

And he's just like, son, what the hell are you doing with me?

SPEAKER_03

He told you you'd be better off getting your concealed carry.

SPEAKER_01

And he's like, hey, hold on right there. Well, he's like, hold on right there. And he goes and gets this other guy on the officer. Remember?

SPEAKER_03

The guy looked like uh No, I fully was 30 to 50 feet away from him at that point. I had run away because I was so pre-upset that this was going on.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the guy looked like Bull, the bull fighter from um from uh Tyson's Punch Out. Like he bald head guy with facial hair uh sleeves.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, facial hair sleeves.

SPEAKER_01

Facial hair sleeves. He just it's like uh what's the government?

SPEAKER_03

He just has beards all over his eyes.

SPEAKER_01

In the in the Bible, uh with the he puts like the goat. Yeah, he had those. Yeah. He's a big, big Bible guy. Yeah. Yeah. He uh anyways, he comes up and he's like, Why do you have that? I said, and then I just didn't answer. I just kind of like I'm like, because I was I was like, oh I'm an idiot. My pre-wife was right. I might be really screwed. Like all of a sudden, they're like I just got really sober.

SPEAKER_03

This trip to get a marriage license is turning into something quite different.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So, but he says he finishes the sentence for me. I guess apparently he was asking a rhetorical question. Police officers like to do that, by the way. Hey, you know what that stop sign meant?

SPEAKER_03

Poor police officers in our lives that are fine.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, which one of you guys thinks he's Bob Marley in here? These are all things I've heard. Had the pleasure. I do like a lot of my my police officer friends. Thank you guys. And uh, anyways, thanks for thanks for giving me so much fun things to quote. Um, so he uh he said well, he said, is it for self-defense? I said, Yes, yes, sir. He said, Well, we have we have two options. One, you will march back to your car. I'm gonna go with you, make sure you lock that up, and then we'll come back and try this again. I said, and then he said, or you can just give it to me and you won't check it in. I will take it. This isn't bad. It'll be mine, yeah. And he and I said, Well, that was I'm like, well, it was a$60 baton, so I would like to something like that. I'd like to take it. He said, All right, where are you parked? And I told him it was like three blocks because of the whole situation that you just outlined, and and he said, uh, okay, well, you go take it, and then I'll be here waiting for you.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I'm not gonna walk six blocks.

SPEAKER_01

So I did that. I came back in, he's like, let me talk to you, as like before I went through. And he said, Hey, man, a guy your size, it's like I get one to defend yourself and your wife and everything. But like, your big wife. If a guy your size beats somebody with that with that thing, you're gonna get absolutely destroyed in front of a jury. He said, just get a gun and shoot 'em and make sure they're dead. And I was like, This is not at all how I thought this was gonna be. Like, I was it was it was the most weird, it was a very weird situation. Meanwhile, Leslie is just hiding behind a marble column. Yeah. I can't believe you. I can't believe you, yeah. Wow, how'd the rest of that day go for you? I never asked.

SPEAKER_03

I'm pretty sure I like immediately called my sister and was like, listen to what Rob did at the courthouse today.

SPEAKER_01

Anyways. All right, so there's a little memory corner.

What MST3K Is And Why

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So anyway, Mystery Science Theater.

SPEAKER_01

Mystery Science Theater. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

So for those of you, I can't imagine anyone listening to our podcast is unfamiliar, at least passingly with it, but I will describe it. Mystery Science Theater 3000 is a show where there's a host, a human host, and some robot co-hosts, and they watch B or lower terrible movies. I thought they were all sci-fi or you know, horror, but apparently there's some action mixed in as we found out last night.

SPEAKER_01

It did used to be on sci-fi. Sci-fi, excuse me.

SPEAKER_03

But it was on Comedy Cycles.

SPEAKER_01

I think it used to be on sci-fi, it originated on that, and then I think Comedy Central picked it up at some point. I don't know the the history. So maybe they did go sci-h sci-fi heavy in the beginning. Um But yeah, the guy named uh his name's Frank. TB Frank. You know the guy with the white hair?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I'm talking about? Mm-hmm. Frank Coniff. He apparently watched like thousands of crappy movies over the years and just said, like, this is just watchable enough to make fun of and be engaged, work jokes on it.

SPEAKER_03

So then then the premise of the show is that the hosts, the robot and the human, watch it. So you're sitting behind them in the theater, so you see their silhouettes at the bottom of the screen, and then they're like making fun of it, and we're all it's like you're watching it with them while they watch it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And it's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01

It is. I would love to you know something I gotta look up, remind me too. Rob, remind yourself. See if Frank Conniff has like a speaker seven podcast. Yeah, speaker. It's an old uh Transcript Transcription SRT joke. Um see if Frank Conf has a podcast or something where he talks B movies.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Because that dude has probably seen more like vinegar syndrome style films than any other person on the on the planet. Um anyways. What's your relationship with it? Did you used to watch it a lot?

SPEAKER_03

No, I didn't watch it a lot.

SPEAKER_01

If you didn't have cable, right?

SPEAKER_03

Right, but um Laura and Uncle Dan used to watch it, and that's where I think I saw it originally. Or maybe even her one boyfriend that was really mean to me. Oh, we don't. He might have watched it. Who won't say his name? Never. His name was Chris. That's a regular name. Anyway, I I will say we watched episode 512.

SPEAKER_01

Was it really?

SPEAKER_03

It was. But they could call it like season five, episode twelve.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. Yeah, I was gonna say I don't think they had that many. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because I was like, because it I was looking at the There's no way there's anywhere. I was looking up some stuff about the theme songs, and it was like for episodes 1000 and I was like, geez, which one did we watch? And we watched 512, but it was season five. Episode 12.

SPEAKER_01

It started in what, 88? I don't know. I think so.

SPEAKER_03

Um so yeah, but I always thought it was really funny.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

And it was like it was it was very much on in the background a lot when Laura had people in like Laura was always present whenever I was watching it because she or whoever she was with was had had it on.

SPEAKER_01

It was kind of the same. I I never there were definitely times I remember being at sleepovers and we just like basically all of our attention was into them into Mystery Science Theater 3000. Like we definitely watched it as the primary focal point for two hours, and I definitely thought it was funny.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um mainly it was mainly more of a relationship of like it would be on at a sleepover, we might be doing something else.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but like that's great.

SPEAKER_01

Everybody was familiar with it, yeah. And I always thought it was funny. I think it's really funny. Like I was dying during most of it. Those jokes are like it's like watching airplane, or like or like Golden Era Family Guy.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like it's just rapid fire pop culture references. If you don't get them, we're st we're gonna have 50 more for you.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And their commitment to just keeping on going, even if they don't laugh at each other, yeah, it's like they're just keeping on going.

SPEAKER_01

It's like a freaking joke machine gun. And it's and it's there's no better. I don't know which came first, my love for the media or my love for mystery science 3000. Yeah, but like there's something about that as a as a target for humor, or as a you know, a uh what's the word? A um whatever, you know what I'm saying? The object.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Right. It's I can't think of the word object. It's it's just it's right in the sweet spot for me. Like I love it's like even if the joke they did they told a bunch that I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, throw away.

SPEAKER_03

But like as a collective, they're hilarious.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I I guess I've I looked at a little bit of the process. Did you at all? Uh-huh. I I think what they did, if if if what I read was correct, they would like pretty much like everybody involved would watch it and watch it and they'd all just write jokes throughout the whole time. And then they pick the best ones and they they just let them rip. And you could tell like the way they did that, because I love the like whenever there's a something, a scene where there's somebody is doing something, like when he's messing with the gas cap. Yeah, like they have 50 ready to rock. Yeah, like he's taking a little nip of gasoline, or what did he say? He's uh I don't know. I don't remember. I wrote down uh could I start could this is gonna be really random?

SPEAKER_03

But well, but real quick before you start in on it, the other added bonus that we mentioned at the top of this is not only did we watch an episode from what, like 1993, but it was recorded on TV, and so what we watched was like somebody's VHS recording, and it included all the commercials from that from 1996. From that, yeah, broadcasting. Oh, it was 96.

SPEAKER_01

This is why I think it's 1996 because there was a commercial It said 95. Well, there was a it could have been ninety five, but there was a whoa the commercial had 1995 in it. Oh, was it like a sprint commercial or something? I was gonna say, well, that would make that's a way more straightforward method. I was thinking because Down Periscope didn't come out till 1996.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

With like Lauren Hawley and uh Kelsey Grammar.

SPEAKER_03

So it's a ninety five, but anyway, so all of the you know, it was just like a snapshot of what was popular at that time.

SPEAKER_04

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Um so we watched it was a two, like almost exactly a two-hour broadcast, and it included all the like i intros, outros of each scene of Mystery Science Theater, and then the commercials.

SPEAKER_01

We watched the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03

We watched it all like we were watching it on a TV that you couldn't do anything with that you can do today.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

You're stuck with what's being aired.

SPEAKER_01

I'll put a link to the video in the description of the YouTube and and and you should check it out if so the reason I even thought of this was I was uh I listened to the Rewatchables podcast a lot.

SPEAKER_03

I put them in an Instagram post recently.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, did you? Yeah. Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03

Did you see my eyes flash? I thought you looked at it.

SPEAKER_01

I did, I loved it. Really? I thought it was great.

SPEAKER_03

I thought you loved me.

SPEAKER_01

But Bill Simmons, the the main host, is a uh huge he likes to talk about Joe Don Baker a lot, and he he mentioned Mitchell, specifically the Mystery Science Theater version of it, and he said it's hilarious. So I didn't know that. I wrote it down because I was like, commercial. I was like, we have to do this like this week.

SPEAKER_03

Because not only were the commercials great, oh there's a ladybug on here. I'm not allowed to get it off, am I? Because it's on the microphone. Anyway, not only were commercial. Commercials so so good, but um we don't even watch commercials at all anymore. Ever. I mean I might see ten seconds of one on a YouTube video, but so like we're I'm very out of the commercial game.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was uh it was nice to see some old fair I I I seriously I I believe I saw every single one of those commercials.

SPEAKER_03

Like I was familiar with every single Comedy Central specific ones I didn't because we didn't have cable.

SPEAKER_01

I forgot that Comedy Central used to do that a lot.

SPEAKER_03

Um they used to take uh advertised their own shows like it was uh almost like an infomercial style, like almost like you could call an 800 number.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was uh keep talking about it for a second because I actually wrote down a little bit on that. What do you mean? Yeah, CC Central Comedy Central CCI. They had Sally Kellerman on the city.

SPEAKER_03

And I was like, is this real? You're like, no, no, it's it's like satire or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

She was have you seen Back to School with Ronnie Dangerfield?

SPEAKER_03

Uh I feel like you've had it on and I've been around.

SPEAKER_01

We'll definitely have to watch that sometime. It's one it's every time I watch it, I love it more. Uh anyways, Sally Kellerman's in that. But she's the one who was advertising the uh the comedy, the CCI Comedy Central Um, it's the place what is it? CCI is the place to do it all. Yeah. And then they had uh what's his face? Um he was he was in Tim and Eric. He was in Tom goes to the mayor. He played, he was like Joyce's ex-husband who was painting with diarrhea. He was the one in the pregnant woman's stomach. They had some really far out, far out commercials. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they were bizarro. They were sure.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was an out there, a lot of sexy stuff too.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I kept thinking, wow, but then I was like, this was cable, so yeah, you got those were different.

SPEAKER_01

You got do we do we just want to lean into the commercials right now?

SPEAKER_03

All right, well, let's just no. Okay. I wrote it down in order of just like as it was happening. So it was like a little bit about Mitchell and then the commercials. How did you write it down? Did you have two steps?

SPEAKER_01

So I wrote down a massive list. I was I probably saw my phone more than I saw the TV because I they I kept being like, look, look at the because you would laugh at the joke, but it was like you didn't even see it. I'm like, right, I basically wrote the script on my phone because like it was so many quotes, and I I didn't know what was said in the actual TV show. I'm like, uh you know, the whole time as you're writing down, you're you're gonna remember this. And then they get another one. Yeah, I try to write it down again. And what I did was I took that whole thing, and I if you really want to hear it, I said, this is what I was doing last night. Um when you were asleep. I said, I I basically said to Claude, the AI bot, I said, categorize all this into what you think is a quote, da-da-da-da-da-da-da, and then take and then the second phase was take that and put it up against I said, Do you have give me the transcripts for this episode in this of you know, Mitchell of Mystery Science Theater, match it up against the quotes that that you think are quotes, and then but only give me the ones that you that you know are are the actual quote from the transcript, and then organize them into plot and organize them, but basically that's so that's how I did it. Yeah, that was too much um for anybody who's interested.

SPEAKER_03

Well, let's just start from the very top. So the theme song is right up our alley because it explains the show.

SPEAKER_04

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

And I had to go look up the what the words were because I didn't catch them all, and that's when I discovered that there are 11 versions of the theme song. So every time they have a new host, so we watched the last episode that had Joel Hodgson as the host. And he actually, as far as I could tell, it looks as though he actually uh sang it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then Mike Nelson sang his in the next several episodes, and then there was another another version with him. And then there was a lady on there at the end. Mary Jo.

SPEAKER_01

I I read the data.

SPEAKER_03

Well, she was on it. She must have been wa she was an evil, she was Pearl, maybe. Anyway, so I just thought that was so funny that we were just talking about theme songs that explain the show, and this one is like over the top.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was like a three-minute theme song. And it's uh they've they've had six different theme songs from what I read. So does that mean six different hosts?

SPEAKER_03

I guess didn't I just say there were eleven versions?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, do you know there are eleven versions? Oh, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03

One, two, three, four, five, six, also known as eleven. Sorry. I don't know why I thought eleven.

SPEAKER_01

That was like advanced gaslighting.

SPEAKER_03

We didn't even mean to watch the last one of Joel, but we did. Mitchell was last. Yeah, it was great. And I kept saying, Is this it?

SPEAKER_01

Did you cry? You were crying, wasn't it? I was a little bit clear. I thought that's all, yeah. You like the team.

SPEAKER_03

So anyway, that was great. And I wrote the theme, Sean, explains the show.

SPEAKER_01

I know.

SPEAKER_03

Do you have a favorite robot name?

SPEAKER_01

Tom. Tom Servo. Tom Servo's my favorite robot name, too.

SPEAKER_03

That's such a great robot name.

SPEAKER_01

I love the uh Tom Servo when he's that stupid scene for the movie. I'm sorry, I know I'm jumping ahead. You're fine. But where he's talking to that, where he's talking to that boy, that kid, and they're like mocking each other.

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But he goes on forever. And he's like screaming. And Tom's like, ah just like a kid. That was it. There was no explanation. It's like he just snapped. You just couldn't handle it.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Tom Servo.

SPEAKER_03

Well, the funny, they have a funny joke at the I see that their like interactions outside of the theater are my least favorite part.

SPEAKER_01

Me too.

SPEAKER_03

Because I think that's everyone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

In fact, it did you ever watch Beavis and Butthead?

SPEAKER_03

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

When I was a kid, my least favorite I I'd like to watch, we're gonna. You mind if we watch some Beavis and Butthead at some point?

SPEAKER_02

I don't mind.

SPEAKER_01

My least favorite part was when they would watch the music videos and basically do what Mystery Science Theater does. They just make fun of it, riff on it. I feel like I would love that now, but as a kid, I just wanted to watch their storyline. So it was almost like the reverse.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, but I didn't like the sketch. The sketches were, I mean, they're fine. Just very quality. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But I did think that the gold is in the at the beginning. He makes that scale model of something out of toothpicks, and they're and he was like, Yeah, we're on a spaceship. There's plenty of toothpicks here, and like just goes right on. Like, that's an explanation of where all the toothpicks came from.

SPEAKER_01

I love like there they're just there are some like funny little lines where he's like when they Mike was coming on and and he said uh he's like, Oh, you guys watch Joe Don Baker movies here? I guess if that's the janitor perks up when somebody's talking about Joe Don Baker.

SPEAKER_03

Well, and it's funny because literally$425 an hour, by the way.

SPEAKER_01

That's gotta be minimum wage, right?

SPEAKER_03

I well when I started working, it was I got paid five minimum wage was five fifteen when I was seventeen.

SPEAKER_01

Was that a lifeguard?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. But I got paid five twenty-five because I was a lifeguard. Ten cents more than the concession stand workers.

SPEAKER_01

You have flav spending all the flavor ice.

SPEAKER_03

That's right. Um, but then I thought it was really funny because later on in the sh in the movie, because then they choose to watch Mitchell, so you can tell us a little bit about that in a second. But right before the first commercial break, before they've even seen Mitchell, because in Mitchell you can see a boom mic, and we like rewrobbed it, so rewinded it, rewounded it.

SPEAKER_01

I never know what to say there.

SPEAKER_03

We we hit rewind and backed it up, and we could see the boom mic, but it's like watching Dole Mike. You can see right before the first commercial break, you can see like because those robots are puppets, and you can see somebody's shoulder come up over the top of the table in the spaceship, like with the toothpick scene. Oh, really? I wrote it down, I was like, I just saw someone behind the table.

SPEAKER_01

That's wow. You've noticed things. I was just messing around more. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's hard to watch this stuff and strike a balance between taking notes and also still trying to enjoy it.

SPEAKER_01

Somehow I enjoy it. I so it's way more work, but I seem to enjoy it more taking notes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, you've got to dial in a little bit so you'd miss less.

SPEAKER_01

It forces me to focus. Yeah. Um, and I have I have an issue with that. Uh sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

That's that's fine. So then they decide to watch Mitchell. So you want to tell us a little bit about Mitchell?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so Mitchell stars Joe Don Baker.

SPEAKER_03

Not a woman, I thought was a like Joe Don, like J-O-D-A-W-N for a while. And then I thought that the criminal at the very beginning was Joe Don Baker. Oh, no. Then I thought that the next guy that you said was a martial artist was Joe Don Baker. So it wasn't until we got to the part where they finally showed Joe Don Baker that I was like, is that the main guy?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Which is always how you want to set your movie up, I guess. Three people deep before somebody knows who the main character is.

SPEAKER_01

So John Saxon is the is the dude in the beginning.

SPEAKER_03

Not the criminal, though.

SPEAKER_01

The criminal.

SPEAKER_03

Not the kid, not the thief, not the kid that breaks in.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, Johnny Mathis?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, the Johnny Mathis brought that. They just that's one thing I love.

SPEAKER_03

They just beat it to death.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Because there's they sing like probably six Johnny Mathis songs during that whole entire break-in scene. It's so good.

SPEAKER_03

But Mitchell, the premise of Mitchell is.

SPEAKER_01

I don't okay, give me a second. I'll tell you. I just want to mention John Saxon in End of the Dragon. Um, have you ever seen that? Ooh.

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_01

You I think you'd like it. It's a Bruce Lee movie. John Saxon's in it?

SPEAKER_03

You just hit your own mic. Was it me?

SPEAKER_01

I know I hit the uh table. Sorry, folks. Wow. Jim uh Jim Kelly's in it. Uh, not the quarterback. But anyways, I'm gonna go off on the deep end there. Let me look up old plot, my little plotty here. What was it what was it about to you? How did you uh how would you define it? Well you're pretty good.

SPEAKER_03

I wasn't really sure until I finally realized what the main who the main character was, who by the way I didn't realize was a detective. I thought he was someone that just happened to have already been apprehended that night that was like still in the cop car. So can I talk about like Right? Well But he was like a lead detective.

SPEAKER_01

Watching this movie and actually trying to pay attention to the movie is so incredibly difficult because what they say just completely changes the way you think you would see Like I'm like are they when whoever directed this movie, did they and I wrote it down somewhere in here, but did they want us to think he was a slob who just or or am I just or was he supposed to be like devil make hair like I think he definitely was like he's supposed to be like one of those, you know But he wasn't no they just grabbed that like they apparently Jodan Baker said he was gonna like said he was looking for them to beat him up or something. It's probably a joke, yeah. But he didn't he one thing he didn't like was that sometimes they would he's like when they were making fun of Mitchell, that was okay, kind of. Yeah, but a lot of times they just flat out made fun of Jodon Baker, and you'd think that they back off after that, but they actually did another movie later and they just torched him.

SPEAKER_03

All right, Jodon Baker. You should have known better than say anything at all other than that was great. Oh, too bad.

SPEAKER_01

But uh the the plot, here's the plot, because I I I don't know. I don't know what the plot is, um, especially with the way they do it.

SPEAKER_03

It's supposed to be a cop procedure.

SPEAKER_01

They edit stuff out like that the part where they're like, oh, John wasn't John Saxon in this, like he just disappears. Uh or in those or like the sex scenes with Linda Evans. The uh we're like, who is that woman?

SPEAKER_03

Like this person just shows up and he just lets her in.

SPEAKER_01

So here's the plot uh slobby principled cop Mitchell is assigned to surveil Cummings, a wealthy mob-connected businessman importing heroin from Mexico. He also suspects a rich guy, Deany, who's John Saxon, of murdering a burglar in his home. Meanwhile, a call girl named Greta shows up at Mitchell's apartment, sent by Deany, at$1,000 a night to keep him distracted. Mitchell figures it out, arrests her for marijuana possession, but she keeps coming back. Deany tries to run Mitchell down with a dune buggy that was cut from that was cut from Mystery Science. Oh, we didn't see that. That's why John Saxon uh disappears like halfway through without explanation. Just like Linda Evans appears without explanation. Uh Cummings tries to use Mitchell to intercept a drug ship shipment, then double crosses him. A police helicopter drops Mitchell, which uh, by the way, I looked up the type of helicopter that is. It's like something 3,000.

SPEAKER_03

Mystery science theater.

SPEAKER_01

300, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Something MST.

SPEAKER_01

It definitely had numbers in it. Um drug shipment, helicopter. Oh, yeah, he drops him a gun. I think was that the boy with Annie Kaufman was there? They kept doing the lat half on. He's like, Thank you, Madame Match. Like he gets he gets the gun and he's like, Thank you about the match. Uh we uh we tend to stick the themes around here. All right. Uh kills the butler. Jeez, does it matter? He drops a gun. He kills Mistretta's men on a golf course. Mitchell gets dropped onto Cummings boat by helicopter, kills the butler with a gaff hook, shoots Cummings, returns home to find Greta waiting, smells marijuana on her, and prepares to arrest her again.

SPEAKER_03

And that's the end of the movie. That's the end of the movie. I mean, sure, that's a that's somewhat of an accurate description.

SPEAKER_01

Would you have been able to describe that? I would not have been able to. I remember those scenes I could not.

SPEAKER_03

I gathered that they didn't want him looking into the John Saxon storyline. So they assigned him to watch this other guy. But then they just started throwing around so many last names. Like that one scene where they were like, Mistretta and Gur what was the other last name? And like the the hosts were like, Oh, but it was Girz. Yeah, this is like every time that one of them on the screen would say the last name, and they'd say, No, it was this person. So he's like, You never knew who they were talking about.

SPEAKER_01

Um the music wasn't giving you any hits.

SPEAKER_03

No, the music was all over the place. I wanted to be like, pick a pick a vibe.

SPEAKER_01

They'd be like this light-hearted country. He just shot a guy. And then they the cops always look at each other, and the music's like, like, did they add that?

SPEAKER_03

Or no, it's just and like during one of the romantic scenes, there's like this ridiculous country song about Mitchell.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_03

And that's when they said it sounded like BJ Thomas.

SPEAKER_01

He wrote um, yeah, he's like BJ Thomas in here. They they uh the guy, I'm trying to find it in here.

SPEAKER_03

Was it the same guy that wrote Firefly?

SPEAKER_01

No, it's Joss Wheaton, right?

SPEAKER_03

Did he write it?

SPEAKER_01

I think so. Oh yeah, yeah, that's why it's uh awesome. Um They No, it was uh Hoyt Axton.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_01

Hoyt Axton wrote for Three Dog Night.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

So you can actually write it It wasn't honestly a bad song, it was probably a totally fine song. He's probably like here's what this movie's about. Can you write a song for it? And guys are probably like, yeah, it's not like he's like and I want you to put it in a sex scene with Jodon Baker. You know. As far as if you just look listen to the song by itself, it's just the timing of it and the way, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03

It And then he said that Mitchell looks like the moon in a trip to the moon. I think that's funny because that was I remember I've had to watch that. Did you watch it? And he does look like the moon.

SPEAKER_01

He does kind of it's all dumb. He looks like if uh I was thinking he looks like if Nick Nolte and John Madden had a baby. I would say that's Jodon Baker. Um I I kind of like Jodon Baker. He was in he was in Cape Fear. We watched that.

SPEAKER_03

Right, you told me that I remember him. He was uh he was a PI that the dad hired.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm almost positive. That's done.

SPEAKER_03

And then did he get killed by the bad guy? Robert De Niro De Niro.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, sorry, spoilers for Cape Fear.

SPEAKER_03

Well, we already talked about it.

SPEAKER_01

Uh that by the way, it was the remake, the Scorsese one. Um can I just rapid fire a few quotes? Yeah. Because I I wrote so many quotes down. There the jokes in this, they honestly like just as far as just funny material, just turn your brain off and just laugh.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

These these guys are I don't know if we just happen to watch I when was the last time you watched one of these?

SPEAKER_03

I think it was like when when Dennis and Ashley were here a few years ago. We it was on Netflix, we were watching them on.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. Were we were we laughing as hard?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_01

Was this just a particularly funnier one, you think?

SPEAKER_03

Or I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

It was I don't know. I was dying.

SPEAKER_03

I was trying to catch everything, like you said earlier.

SPEAKER_01

All the stuff the way they made fun of of of him for you know the way they're like making him out of breath like he's uh fatty big gee.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He just looks sort of like a regular guy, he's kinda he's not a bad looking dude, all of that.

SPEAKER_03

He's all right.

SPEAKER_01

All right, you you big uh big Jodon guy, yeah girl? Joe Don gal? Leslie is president president of the uh Joe Don gals.

SPEAKER_03

We're the Joe Don's D AWE.

SPEAKER_01

The Joe Don't Tony Orlando and Joe Don Baker. It's just two two two women who are collectively Joe Don Baker. Um okay. An empty plate breaks my heart. What is he? Uh hey, you like beer? He offers her a beer. Hey, you like beer? Some of them are half empty with cigarettes that whole thing where he's like past past the butter, peas. Uh past the butter, pass the gravy. Uh more butter, please. He's like, wait, wait, I want that bone marrow. What do you think of the bone marrow?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, taking the like stuck.

SPEAKER_01

I totally get that though. I'm I'm all about that.

SPEAKER_03

Bring it back.

SPEAKER_01

Uh tell him we have sour cream. There's like all these scenes where they're like trying to food jokes. They're pretending like they're trying to lure a man. He's like, liquor man, whiskey man. He's like, hey, tell him, tell him we have sour cream. We're trying to get his attention. He says, uh, I want to put you on the payroll. We have an opening in retail. He's like, I admire I love this one. I feel like I've heard this joke a million times, but it always kills me. I admire a man like you. Well, not you specifically.

SPEAKER_03

At one point they call somebody a be jumpsuited fool.

SPEAKER_01

Oh that was actually in the uh Oh, that was in the You're right, you're right.

SPEAKER_03

Sorry. I'm sorry, I take it back.

SPEAKER_01

The more I the more I started thinking about some of the jokes that they told in like the what what would you call that? The actual mystery science thing.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, like on the spaceship.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean, it was it's a lot funnier than I I remembered really not liking it. I remember just like get up through it, yeah. I actually kind of enjoyed it to an extent. But um what else? Uh I like the top. Oh, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I was gonna say when they say that that one guy was hastily put together. He's like kind of an ugly old man. He like turns his face and they can finally see him front on him. Oh, he was hastily put together. Hastily put together.

SPEAKER_01

I like to top off my beer with another beer. It's like dessert. Uh oh, when Joe Dot Baker was about to get get into the shower, they said, Thank God for the jump cut.

SPEAKER_03

I mean the editing in this video movie was ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01

Ridiculous. And then they made it even worse. Yeah. Yeah, I guess. Maybe they made it better, actually.

SPEAKER_03

The car chase scene.

unknown

Oh.

SPEAKER_03

It was like everything was happening at like 25. They make it look like the semi is gonna run them off the road. And then they cut to the next scene and they're like safely merged in front of the semi with no problems at all. And it's like the whole entire highway is full of cars and they're all going like 25 miles per hour. So like no one was ever at risk.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh. Hot merging action.

SPEAKER_03

And then once they go off-roading and they're what they're like, Lincoln Town cars made for off-roading.

SPEAKER_01

Any time they would do like a like a sweeping shot, it's or like with the uh when they were in the airplane.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

What were they advertising? Oh, the helicopter, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

They were Oh, at 3M.

SPEAKER_01

3M, harvesting the world's oceans. For the future or something like that.

SPEAKER_03

For a better tomorrow. That helicopter looked like the clear glass orb from Jurassic World. And it looked like they put it on a oh, what was that erector set?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um I'm gonna look at it.

SPEAKER_03

It just looked like the tail of the helicopter just looked like scaffolding. Or or like uh a ladder to climb a tower. It didn't look like anything I've ever seen before.

SPEAKER_01

It was uh police helicopter. Yeah, it's I mean, it's a wild-looking helicopter. I'm trying to find what the heck the name of that. Man, helicopters in this a lot. Uh when they're in the helicopter, and uh and he's trying, he's like reaching out. He's like, Mitchell's like behind him. He's like, Mitchell, not here.

SPEAKER_03

My favorite idea.

SPEAKER_01

That whole scene. Like, what were they doing?

SPEAKER_03

He was like, hold on to me. So Lisa's like got his arms awkwardly kind of like wrapped. It's so terrible.

SPEAKER_01

It was like two minutes of that.

SPEAKER_03

Also, were they filming that in the air?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

That had to be their most expensive shot of the whole movie.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you think yeah, it's probably not cheap to get a Hughes 300. I think that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03

From a child's backyard.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

That's what it looked like a kid put it together.

SPEAKER_01

Um some Hughes you're gonna really upset the Hughes 300 dads out there.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, and there's a scene where they're like eating dinner and uh the boom mic just comes down right at the top of the screen and goes right back out. It's so great.

SPEAKER_01

They call that out very quickly. In fact, we were we oh we already told it talked about that.

SPEAKER_03

The fact that they keep saying Mitchell constantly through the city.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, anytime he does like an action thing.

SPEAKER_03

Like Mitchell!

SPEAKER_01

He's like Mitchell, he's like gonna fight when somebody throws a punch. Mitchell! Okay, close. Oh, what he's going when he's in. When he goes into his house. And he's like clearing it out because uh Greta's in there. No, I know I know her name. Um but he's like he he he goes into uh he goes into the closet and looks in there with a gun. He's like, okay, clothes, hold it right there. And then he says, Alright, kitchen, freeze. Like those gags.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I like in your description that you w found on the internet where it says that he figures out that Deanny is sending him Greta. He doesn't figure it out in the movie. He tells him and he's like, wait. And he like gets mad and storms out.

SPEAKER_01

That's true. That that's a full disclosure, that's an AI description. I asked for just a quick summary that explained explained the plot, um, but also what was edited out of it.

SPEAKER_03

AI should have said once he figures it out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So I, you know, don't don't Sorry, don't hate the AI, I guess.

SPEAKER_03

Sorry, computers. Please be nice to us and if you do.

SPEAKER_01

Have you seen my inside the PGA around here anywhere? He says, uh may oh, I'll have a va I'll have a voc uh chlorine, please. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

The pool bar.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, he'd been I never heard somebody say logging it. He says, I guess I go log or I gotta uh go into a bush and logging it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no, oh well yeah, but he was staying out on the radio like he wanted them to know that if he got shot he was unarmed. Um then we're like man, you have a heck of a memory. Thank you. Um the whole movie was incredibly disjointed, barely a thread of continuity. It was pretty bad.

SPEAKER_01

It's a perfect movie for Mystery Science Theater. For sure.

SPEAKER_03

Well, they're all aren't they all?

SPEAKER_01

Did you get all the references they made?

SPEAKER_03

No. Did you write them, look them up later?

SPEAKER_01

I wrote down the ones I didn't get. I didn't get William Conrad. Who's that? Have you seen Jake and the Fat Man?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_01

He was the fat man. Okay. Sorry, William.

SPEAKER_03

Um that's fact. He played the fat man.

SPEAKER_01

King Hussein, I didn't really exactly know who that was. Um John Derrick, Ruth Boozy, Buzzy, Rosie Greer, NFL player. Yeah, I looked them all up. I could tell you anything about them if you'd like. Um Harold Pinter, Claude Atkins, Jimmy Osman, Riptide is a TV show. And then we there was an Adam 12 reference.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01

I just found out what Adam 12 was, and now I've heard it. It was a reference. Yeah. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

It is weird how those things happen.

SPEAKER_01

Um but do you want to talk about the commercials real quick? Commercials, yeah. And then we'll probably move on to Waterloo.

SPEAKER_03

So we could give out a couple of awards.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_03

The award for the most repeated commercial goes to Dream On. Apparently there was a TV show on Comedy Central called Dream On.

SPEAKER_01

I remember commercials for that.

SPEAKER_03

Because they're explicit.

SPEAKER_01

Remember when I was talking about how much I loved uh, well, this bridges the gap between the kinks, too. But that some of my first the first time I noticed the opposite sex.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Like when those trailers were come on, I would pay extra special attention to them. Uh same same with Dream Month. Same with Dream Month. It was right in high school at that time.

SPEAKER_03

It was pretty X Oh, is that yeah, hmm?

SPEAKER_01

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03

So we saw that five times. Now there were different scenes in some of them. But it was the formula was the same in the and the like and what's the what's it called? The talking.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, the script.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that was the same, but they would just show different clips from the TV, but they were all essentially the same thing. Um and then an award for the most misrepresented TV show.

SPEAKER_01

I think that would be Star Trek to the next generation.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So they actually advertised that three different times that you could purchase seasons of the start of the next generation, which is like a a what would you say like a top five show for you in your life?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean, if I yeah, I would say that it's a favorite, a favorite Star Trek, but a favorite. Quality, comfort food, all that fun stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And they make it look it's only people getting shot with phasers and spaceships exploding. That's all they show in the advertisement.

SPEAKER_01

It's I wrote Walker Tex, they made it look like it's Walker Texas Ranger in space. I said it looks like a idiocracy movie trailer, a movie trailer from Idiocracy, or a movie trailer that would play on uh for somebody who likes Mitchell.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like if you only ever saw those trailers for this next generation, and then you got the shows, you'd be like, What?

SPEAKER_04

What is this? This is not what I saw about it.

SPEAKER_03

Sure, that stuff happens. Like those are real scenes.

SPEAKER_01

They made Q look like he was like, you know, Adolf Hitler's. Like freaking Pinhead or something for Hellraiser.

SPEAKER_03

So but yeah, they showed that one three times.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, that was wild.

SPEAKER_03

And then there were a couple celebrity sites.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, by the way, it's it was for Encounter at Far Point. You could buy the Bite on VHS for$4.99.$4.95.$4.95.

SPEAKER_03

They were all ending in fives. Um there were other things you could buy that were 0.95 cents. Um, but can you think, do you remember there was a few celebrity, not the Comedy Central commercials, but regular commercials. There's a couple celebrity sightings. Do you know who they were?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, well, my first my first one, I was very, very happy to see Paul Hogan on Top of the World in a Subaru commercial. Oh, Crocodile Dundee. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, that was the best. Um and then the other one was Murphy Brown.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Murphy Brown. When you were right, it was Sprint.

SPEAKER_03

We used to watch Murphy Brown on the card.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I kept saying MCI.

SPEAKER_03

Did you ever watch Murphy Brown?

SPEAKER_01

I didn't.

SPEAKER_03

We did.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_03

I don't even remember what it was about. Was she a lawyer or something?

SPEAKER_01

She was uh she had a lot of power suits, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but what was the was she a businesswoman?

SPEAKER_01

Never saw it.

SPEAKER_03

I know we watched it. Yeah, we've definitely watched a million of them, but I feel like it was on around the same time as Night Court, and I in my brain I'm like, she was a judge, but she's No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01

I watched a little bit of Night Court. It was uh it was fine.

SPEAKER_03

All right, what gets the um what gets second place for the most advertised?

SPEAKER_01

Okay was it Psychic Solution?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_01

Oh do you want to come back to that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we'll come back to Psychic Solutions.

SPEAKER_01

Um Hang on ATT?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, those long distance ones. Those were the long distance commercials in general. I just forgot about that entire part of the city.

SPEAKER_03

Like that long distance was a thing. Yeah. Well, I was like, who was making all these international calls? Because it was like so much more than that.

SPEAKER_01

I remember that commercial with the with a girl, the the teenage girl talking to her boyfriend and in the car, and she's like privacy.

SPEAKER_03

Or the dad.

SPEAKER_01

She's like faxing all that stuff.

SPEAKER_03

You probably had a fax machine at your house. We never knew. We didn't have a fax machine.

SPEAKER_01

Really? Uh I hate fax machines.

SPEAKER_03

I know. We still use them in uh the cancer center. They fax stuff up.

SPEAKER_01

I know all about it.

SPEAKER_03

You just have to support that. Well, yeah, uh it was we still have them at the school. But it was the Art Instruction Institute.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03

Art Instructional School Institute or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

That I love those commercials.

SPEAKER_03

I and you could order the pamphlet and fill it out and send it in, and they would score it and send it back. I did it.

SPEAKER_01

The pirate and the turtle?

SPEAKER_03

Yep. I did it.

SPEAKER_01

Tell me about it.

SPEAKER_03

So you do that, you you just redraw, and I'm very, very good at redrawing things. I'm not as good at coming it up with it. I mean, that's my life. I'm very good at taking existing things and doing something with them, but novel material I'm terrible with. But anyway.

SPEAKER_01

There's incredible value to that. So they work so well together. Uh you have a lot of novel um novelties.

SPEAKER_03

We don't. But anyway, so shut your mouth. So then there was like do you remember seeing those um black and white pictures that were like different patterns and stuff? Like like like it'd be a with old woman's face or no, it was like six grids, six squares, and they all had like different black and white.

SPEAKER_00

Like a contrast table?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I can't remember what kind of you had to like d like predict something like pattern. It was like some pattern-related thing.

SPEAKER_01

Like gradients kind of thing. Something like that.

SPEAKER_03

And then you had to, there was like a picture of the house. You were supposed to add like landscaping and shrubbery. And that's what I did the worst on, because it was like you should have added, you know, you could have added a bush here or a tree here. It was like you were supposed to take the house.

SPEAKER_01

Cedar lattice work.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, some cedar lattice work, keep people's bullets out. Um but that's what it was. And then they did send it back, and like they were like, This is great, this is great. You needed, you know, I could have seen more on this or whatever. I wish I still had it.

SPEAKER_01

Wow.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, they advertised that four times.

SPEAKER_01

You know I love the music.

SPEAKER_03

The first three were exactly the same. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's like right in the it's it reminds me a lot of Angela, like Bob James like taxi theme song.

SPEAKER_03

But it they showed the same commercial three times, and then the fourth one, it was a it was a variation on it. Do you think they got a lot of art students? Like, what was the purpose? Like, I feel I like looking back, I'm like, was that a front for like human trafficking? Like, what was that?

SPEAKER_01

It's it's it's too bad that it can't just be just a good, like, hey, just we just want to help people with art.

SPEAKER_03

We figured that people have art skills and they just maybe they don't know.

SPEAKER_01

We know a pirate and a turtle are two of the most relatable uh avatars.

SPEAKER_03

I have turtles on my underwear right now. Oh my gosh! No, you don't. I really do though.

SPEAKER_01

I have pirates in mind.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. Um, let's see, what were some of the other commercials? Uh Playboy.

SPEAKER_01

There was a Playboy.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my gosh, and a men's health.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah. Those were pretty I forgot about those men's health.

SPEAKER_03

Those were pretty explicit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I was pretty tuned into those as well.

SPEAKER_03

And like some of the um, did you write down any of the taglines from the Playboy?

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No.

SPEAKER_03

Where they were like ever caught on tape. Like the most beautiful women ever caught on tape. Like they were out in the wild, like watching like a rare species.

SPEAKER_01

Scurry around tracks.

SPEAKER_03

I was thinking more along the lines of like National Geographic Endangerment. Species being caught on tape for the first time.

SPEAKER_01

There's like two, like Jenny McCarthy and Annicole Smith are up in a tree branch eating bugs off of each other.

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Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_03

Well, they made it sound like it wasn't like a hundred percent stage, like they just like stumbled upon the scene.

SPEAKER_01

That's somebody's rule thirty seven.

SPEAKER_03

Um and then the men's health was like the three free gifts was like get rid of that gut booklet. And then, of course, the romantic tips and then group tips. Health tips that every man should know, or something like that. Oh, so cringy.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man, that was back in the sweet spot of like um when did Maxim start coming out? That was kind of a boom. You know, men's health might actually led into that. Men's health walked so Maxim could surf.

SPEAKER_03

Skateboard.

SPEAKER_01

What about U.S. Army? Oh my gosh, I remember specifically special thanks to Miss Miller. Never let me settle for a C. As soon as I heard that, it was just like my uh 14-year-old self just zapped back into my body. You're like B.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, the Jew can be.

SPEAKER_01

They're so they're pretty uh saccharin, is that the word?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Well, the the second one that they showed, they were showing like a SEAL team. Well, I don't know what the Army, what's the Army special officer? Like a Rangers move. Yeah, like in this full blackout camo, like like water mission, like they're creeping up in this swamp, but they're playing this like violin, beautiful, like uplifting music and like cutting to these other scenes, and I'm like, this is not. They're making it look like this is not a horribly dangerous operation that these men are about to get into.

SPEAKER_01

But guys, it's pretty cool, right?

SPEAKER_03

$30,000 for college. Um McDonald's or McDonald's. They were the only um food commercial.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I was in a McDonald's commercial around this time.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, was that the uh B Bidi Bidi? That's all, folks.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

One of your um better looks, I think. You were like totally dead face.

SPEAKER_01

I was like half-tooth.

SPEAKER_03

Like all front teeth. They were like, hey, you look like a rabbit. Why don't you do this?

SPEAKER_01

We need somebody with a cartoon voice or face.

SPEAKER_03

And as it turns out, you kind of check both boxes.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, man. Um, thank you, honey.

SPEAKER_03

They advertise a terrible-looking show called Ab Absolutely Fabulous.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, I never heard of that either. Dude, the British humor has taken me so long to I like generally like it now. And then I love it in some cases, but like none of those shows ever appealed to me. I don't know why. It was almost like I think I was just a production value snob.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, that looks cheap.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah. How about did you ever watch Are You Being Served?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_03

We should watch that sometime. My dad loved that.

SPEAKER_01

I'd totally down for it. There's a sister. There's a lot of shows I haven't watched like uh Faulty Towers. I hear that's great. I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_03

I've never heard of that one.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it's supposed to be like like people very much love it.

SPEAKER_03

We should do a British comedy episode.

SPEAKER_01

We should.

SPEAKER_03

Um, okay. What about the only movie they showed, which we already mentioned, was Down Periscope. Only preview that they showed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It's kind of weird. And they only showed it once.

SPEAKER_03

And then why did I write Have Gun Will Travel?

SPEAKER_01

Because that Was that from the movie Matrix? Yes. Um, no. It was a uh you could rent, you could borrow it for 10 days or keep it for$4.99. Have Gun Will Travel was a Western.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, right. And you could you could preview it for free for 10 days. That's what they said.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. That's like that's gotta be that's an interesting marketing strategy, is it?

SPEAKER_03

The way they spin that those.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, that's kind of like in the same vein as like the rebate, sort of like a$20 rebate when they know no one's gonna actually return it.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Well, rebate's different things.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, how much was the licensing on Have Gun Wheel Travel in 1993?

SPEAKER_03

I never even heard of it in my life.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Why did I write it down? The craft matto adjustable bed.

SPEAKER_01

Adjustable beds at flatbed prices.

SPEAKER_03

We should have had that in our uh flat flatland episode. They had adjustable. Only we had seen Mitchell first. The sphere had adjustable beds in its world and its 3D world.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh. Those are great.

SPEAKER_03

Uh but then let's talk psychic solutions.

SPEAKER_01

I man, I forgot.

SPEAKER_03

They showed that one twice, but it was different the second time.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

That was a poor man's psychic friends network.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Was Psychic Friends Network uh Dion Warwick? Dean Warwick. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So of course then they had like a black host for the psychic solutions. It was like just a straight ripoff of the Deion Warwick formula.

SPEAKER_01

And twice as cheesy. Like the the paid act, like it was almost as bad as like life alert. Life alert saved my life. I owe my life to it.

SPEAKER_03

Wait, I feel like I wrote I got a lot of mileage on our house. Did you write down any of the things they said in the psych? Oh one of the things they said that would happen if you called the 800 number was quote, feel better now.

SPEAKER_01

How could I lose? It's free.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it was terrible.

SPEAKER_01

Basically, uh it's very, very Tim and Ericky. Like Tim and Eric.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like it just was one step this side of being a uh almost pre-faction.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It was hey, do yourself a favor. If you've listened to this much of the podcast, you would need to watch Psychic Solution commercials. Go find some. Get it out of your system, get it about three minutes worth. You'll be all you need.

SPEAKER_03

I I covered everything on my list. The only thing I didn't say, and this is back to the the sketches on Mystery Science Theater, the non-movie part. When he was like the plant, what's her name? Gladys Greta? Greta No, the plant. The I don't know why. I think it looks like Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, shoot.

SPEAKER_03

Gladys.

SPEAKER_01

Is that it?

SPEAKER_03

Uh I don't remember. Anyway, and she was freaking out because they were gonna kill Joel.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, and she was trying to figure out how to save him, and she had all these notes on the dry erase board, and she had poop and pee, but it wasn't never fully spelled out, but it was like a molecular structure, like crossword.

SPEAKER_01

I almost missed it.

SPEAKER_03

And I was like, do you not see the poop and pee all over the board? Like that was hilarious to me.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_03

Um that was very fun.

SPEAKER_01

I like it. Robots and mystery science theater.

SPEAKER_03

So, just a time check. It's been an hour and 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_01

Hey guys, if you're interested in the robots from Mr. Mystery Science Theater, check out Instagram at some point. Oh, yeah. Or, hey, Google it. Or you probably already know it and you just want a reason to get mad at us.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's why we named the show after your feelings.

SPEAKER_03

Leave us a comment about your anger, please.

SPEAKER_01

Um we talk about old Waterloo Sunset. I I mean I I have more notes on old Metro, but I think we I think we we get a good. I I really wondered how we were going to talk about all of those things at once. But you know what? I knew that I had you. And I had your magnetic rail system.

SPEAKER_03

That's right. I hold so dear. This.

SPEAKER_01

But if you ride too many times.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're trouble.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I don't want to. I was thinking of the uh poor guy. Forget it.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Uh waterless sunset. So can we talk about that for a second? Just the riff?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That riff is great.

SPEAKER_03

It's very good.

SPEAKER_01

It's very good. And it's it's very uh pentatonic, would you say? So that riff, and this is gonna come up again, but it is I think I could probably play a minute of it, right? I can't play it.

SPEAKER_00

I have to listen to So it's uh boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

SPEAKER_01

That I got three songs in my head. Peter Frampton, do you feel like we do? This song, obviously, and Laughter in the Rain. And I the only way I could play this song is by getting it in there first. Is by listening to it or or playing it, because I will play Laugh in the Rain.

SPEAKER_03

You'll go right on into a different song.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, or I can't, I it's such a weird thing. It it almost makes it. I know I'm getting far out here, but is do you think that's what sorry if this is ignorant, but do you think that's what it's like when you hear somebody that say can't say their R's, for instance, or it's just like that connection is not I know it's not just a mental thing. I think there's actually some I do we should I take us down this road?

SPEAKER_03

Uh I just don't even know where you're gonna go.

SPEAKER_01

When I'm saying for the part I think it's a bit of a appreciation for not being able to control a very simple thing. Uh-uh for where it's just right there in front of me. I know Waterloo Sunset extremely well.

SPEAKER_03

Impediments are anatomical, yes, physical, which is why you can fix them.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, sorry, I skipped several.

SPEAKER_03

I just have conversation in my head. You should, because I don't know what you're gonna say next.

SPEAKER_01

I had somebody try I I'd like to talk to Cass Cassie sometime about that and the separation there.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Anyways, let's talk about Waterloo sunset. Motor planning. That's what our that's what we're talking about. Ray Davies wrote it. Motor planning. Um I love do you like this song? Had you heard it?

SPEAKER_03

Uh it felt like I'd heard it, but I would never have been able to say, Oh yeah, I've heard that. No. But I loved it.

SPEAKER_01

It's such a good thing.

SPEAKER_03

And I love that I was able to get the sheet music and then it was like I knew it immediately. And I can see your red.

SPEAKER_01

You try to make me feel just a little bit bad about that, right?

SPEAKER_03

No, I I just love the expedience of it.

SPEAKER_01

It it is that is a neat, very neat trick. Honestly. Like, because I I have to the I have to hear.

SPEAKER_03

I think I must be I have to listen to a song or something. Does that make me a visual learner? Because like I've always said if I've read something in a book, I could tell you where on the page that it was. Like I can see the page and that kind of thing. And that's how I am with the reading of the music. Like I can hear you do it and I can sit down and figure out what it is, but the second I put it into some writing I'll never forget it. And I can execute it. You know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Uh me, the best way for me to learn things is to write it down.

SPEAKER_01

You you might as well be AI, honestly, as far as I'm concerned. Me? Yeah. Your brain, the way you can come up with sentences, just the way you can write emails like at the speed of thought, like you just you just get it right the first time. I just don't have a thought.

SPEAKER_03

I think that's a big difference.

SPEAKER_01

I mean I have to like plan my day around it. And it's it's it's that's why I love the email. It's very difficult. But anyway, um but yeah, I I really liked it. I can see why you like sheet music. It's quite convenient. Expedient.com. Um beautiful. That was no, forget it. I this was on something else. We talked about something else, the album a few episodes ago. I don't remember what we said about it.

SPEAKER_03

Wax eloquently about the kinks, and I'll look pleasantly towards you while you do.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the kinks, I got a little bit of a personal relationship with the kinks. Um, first of all, I didn't know the kinks as well. Oh, hi.

SPEAKER_03

Is this a pleasant look?

SPEAKER_01

It's very pleasant. It's a little too pleasant. I was thinking of kinks. Um so I uh I don't know the kinks as well as I thought I did. Like I've listened to a lot of kinks, but the kinks have a huge career. Um they were like one of the four biggest British invasion bands with the Who and I always never knew they were that old.

SPEAKER_03

I always assumed the Kinks were from the 80s. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Well, they but but well they were though. That's the thing. Like they were still for as like tumultuous as the relationship. But I thought they were an 80s band. For the most part. Um like exclusively.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like they came out in the 80s, is what I thought. No, based on almost nothing, though.

SPEAKER_01

Gotcha. Well, they got an 80s sound, like they were definitely I mean, Van Halen was certainly influenced by the Kinks. Um so like that's just one of a billion groups. Like, there's so many fanboys and girls over Waterloo Sunset specifically.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Waterloo Sunset is considered to be like they didn't even chart in the US from what I can find. It only got number two. It only got number two, and I'm trying to remember the song that was that knocked it off, but uh in the UK. So it's really like but a lot of people consider it to be like a sleeper hit. Yeah, I mean number two on the billboards is more than a sleeper, but it's but yeah, it's it's definitely a song that you you hear it and you're like it's a song that I I feel I don't mean to want to romanticize it too much, but it is close to a perfect pop song if there is one.

SPEAKER_03

Totally.

SPEAKER_01

And it's one of those songs that I just don't think if you've heard it once or twice, you're ever gonna forget that you did when you heard a second or third time. You're gonna be like, yeah, I've heard this song before. Because it's so memorable. It's so memorable. Like I I don't know. I mean, do you do you know the music well enough to be able to talk about what's going on there?

SPEAKER_03

Like a like a what Well, it's in E. And then it spends some time in the minor, too. The F sharp minor.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. I love that little walk.

SPEAKER_03

But then it takes it where it's the F sharp major, which is a borrowed five and five.

SPEAKER_01

So when it goes chili chili.

SPEAKER_03

Do you know what my favorite part of the song is?

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna say it's is it the uh It's the chili chili part.

SPEAKER_03

Oh it is? Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Speaking of things that invade my brain, Sandra Boynton. And we're what I always want to say, chili chili is the winter time or belly button time. There's a book we used to read to my daughter about belly buttons.

SPEAKER_03

It's called the belly button book. It's a pretty Sandra Boyton's pretty bomb. If you have children and you haven't gotten any Sandra Boynton books, you're missing out.

SPEAKER_01

What's the the puppy, the the cookie or the oh, you're my puppy something. You sing it all the time. It's really cute. Snuggle puppy. Snuggle puppy. That's a great song.

SPEAKER_03

It is. That's from either Philadelphia Chickens or Rhinoceros Tap. She has two CDs.

SPEAKER_01

Man, maybe we should produce a Boynton episode.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so it I love the chili chili. I love that little line. Plus, can you think of any other song in the world that says chili chili twice? It's not a child song.

SPEAKER_01

That's a good point.

SPEAKER_03

Chili chili?

SPEAKER_01

I'm sure probably a TLC song.

SPEAKER_03

It doesn't count. But really, though. Chili chili. It's so sweet.

SPEAKER_01

It is. It's a fun word to sing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And it's like the p the song sounds like what it is. I don't even know what that means.

SPEAKER_01

Hmm. Well, I mean, I feel like if I if I was so it was originally, do you know anything about how like the lyrics?

SPEAKER_03

Tell me. Um is Waterloo a place?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Well, Waterloo is a place. But what he's actually seeing. It's it is. They make some of the best grape seltzer.

SPEAKER_03

They do.

SPEAKER_01

Anytime I see grape seltzer, water.

SPEAKER_03

If you guys want to send Rob something to our P.O. box, Waterloo Grape Seltzer.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. When I get when I have a hundred accumulated, that will be enough. Until then, please keep sending.

SPEAKER_03

Never be. That would be twelve hundred.

SPEAKER_01

Or eight hundred, depending on the phone.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I thought there was twelve in a pack.

SPEAKER_01

There's eight sometimes too. Depends on your your store, I suppose. But uh it's hard to find. It's usually cleaned out at our local Walmart. Okay, I bet I got another. There's probably somebody else up to my scheme.

SPEAKER_03

Remember last time we went to the pig, they had some. We need to check the pig out.

SPEAKER_01

I should. I should. Um what was I about to say? Waterloo. Oh, you asked about Waterloo. It is a place in England. That's not what they're talking about. They're talking about Waterloo Bridge in London, I believe.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And so people jump from it. Well, uh, probably, but I I I don't actually know. Um, it was originally going to be called Liverpool Sunset, but the Beatles just did Penny Lane because they're like the um and he just thought it was another it doesn't need another song about Liverpool. And he also wanted to tie it, he being Ray, Davies wanted to tie it to his uh kind of a childhood memory he had when he had like he got a tracheotomy for some reason. He was in the hospital, and he couldn't do anything, but he would they they take him out to Waterloo Bridge or buy it, and he'd just watch the sunset and he felt just at peace.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Um and then it's like then you also have stuff about so that's the Waterloo Connection. That's that's what I could find about it.

SPEAKER_03

Um You just made me think about the underwater connection and WH House.

SPEAKER_01

You just made me think about Burlington Coat Factory.

SPEAKER_03

Oh more than Great Coats.

SPEAKER_01

More than Great Coats. Um gosh, okay, no more commercials.

SPEAKER_03

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, I just thought what's the other one that we always confuse? Columbus State? We have your future in mind.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. Franklin University. Franklin University, we're more than great coats.

SPEAKER_01

IXN or amusement for you.

SPEAKER_03

That's what it is.

Lyrics Meaning And Creep Vibes Debate

SPEAKER_01

Franklin University, we're more than great coats. Okay, okay, back on track. So uh do you what are you the vibe what kind of vibes do you get from this? Take me through the spectrum.

SPEAKER_03

Empty happiness.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. That's good, actually.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

No, I I get creep vibes from it.

SPEAKER_03

I like the guy's creepy, like they're creeping.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like I get this is a dude not creep, like necessarily gonna hurt somebody, but the kind of guy you're like, he's your neighbor, and you don't want to be mean to him. You know he's a nice guy.

SPEAKER_03

And they put a fence on the holy crap.

SPEAKER_01

But well, I figured this is a guy, like a shut-in, who sits in his in his house. Oh, I'm gonna step on my soundtrack. That's fine. Rear window of uh Hitchcock, which I actually have not seen the whole thing. Um I know Simpson spoofed it, but it's uh Jimmy uh what's his face, your your granddad?

SPEAKER_03

Uh Stewart. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I think I think that's who it is.

SPEAKER_03

My grandfather is not Jimmy Stewart. Somebody who's education.

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Who's it who's in his somebody who's yeah, who's in his room and just watching people like he's watching Terrence and Julie as if he's in a relationship with them, and he's like, Terrence and Julie watch over, they go they're on the bridge where they feel safe and sound. I'm so lazy. Like, I get the feeling he's like, oh no, guys, I can't come out tonight. You go ahead though.

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So that I can sit down.

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But they have no idea who we actually are.

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Right, right. And he has a whole narrative that they are not part of.

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Yes. Yes, and I haven't been able to find that that is part, that that is what he wanted you to think, but I can't help but based on like some of the other songs that he wrote, like how we thought the Art Institute was for human trafficking.

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It can't just be a nice song about a little boy in a wheelchair.

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It can. It can, and it might be, and a lot of people have that connection. I'm sure if I lived, if I actually had seen a Waterloo Sunset, I'm sure I'd be incredibly moved by this song. Especially since I am moved by it. It's a beautiful song.

SPEAKER_03

It sounds like it's painting.

SPEAKER_01

I think a lot of And my dad is a huge Kinks fan, so I kind of have like I know that he loves this song. Yeah. So this song is wonderful, but the part of the reason I like the Kinks is because they have so many songs that are like creepy and satirical and very like Shell Silverstein, Rawl Dahl kind of like well-respected man.

SPEAKER_03

There's a Roll Dahl podcast. I don't know if you've really yeah, it's like the secrets of Roll Dahl. I started listening to that. Oh, okay. Put that back at the top.

SPEAKER_01

Sumption corner, yeah. Run it. Stop the presses. Um so, anyways, I I love I actually love that about this. No, he says that it's Terry and Julie, like Terrence Stamp and Julie Christie.

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You and your you've I just don't know who taught you to say the you.

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What?

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Julie.

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Jul Julie. Julie. Julie. Terence Stamp was um he was in have you seen the Limey? Did we watch that together?

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No.

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If we did, I forgot. He played um oh, what's his face? Uh Zod, General Zod in Superman 2.

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Oh.

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This is about Superman 2, basically. Yeah, basically. This is Lex, uh Lex's um origin story. He's he'd sit there, kind of like Unbreakable, sort of.

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In his wheelchair. Yeah. Watching Superman fly over General Zod.

SPEAKER_01

He's scheming. So yeah, Waterloo Sunset is basically it's a DC origin story. But um, do you listen to any covers of it?

SPEAKER_03

No, I did not.

SPEAKER_01

I did.

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Tell me about them.

SPEAKER_01

I'd love to geek out on the guitar sound and all that stuff, but that we talked about the music a lot. It's there's lots to say, and lots of people have commented. Um David Gilmore is a huge fan of this song from uh Pink Floyd. We were we just talked about Pink Floyd, didn't we?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, because we were talking about the Wizard of Oz.

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The Wizard of Oz.

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Oz.

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Okay, I listened to Andrew Byrd, who is like a fiddle player, and uh he played with the guitar player, but he did that like unison.

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Oh, like octave.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you tell me like George Benson's like the master of this, where he will sing.

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Singing his solo.

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Yeah, like scatting on the singing the solo while playing.

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Yeah, that's crazy.

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He did that with a fiddle. That's why it was very cool. It was I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Andrew Bird sounds familiar. Is he a famous person?

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He's famous enough that I didn't spoiler, I do not have a nobody award. I was gonna give it to Andrew Bird. He had the I'll give it to us. Yeah, we get this one.

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Um That's good, that's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01

I listened to First Aid Kit. Have you listened to them?

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Yeah.

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So I this is a second song I've heard them do, cover. Uh they're like a Swedish female, a lot of female vocals, at least two, at least two in this recording. Um they did Little Talks. Oh a version of that, and it was it was it was it was cool. And they did a version of this that was really nice. I'd actually I actually meant to send it to you. Um there was one with Peter Gabriel, and he was it it was very, very different, no drums. It was all orchestral or orchestral, if you'd like.

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If you're a whale.

SPEAKER_01

But it had a lot of French horn in it. Oh and I not to brag, know what a French horn sounds. I know. It sounds just like Gummy Bears.

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Oh my gosh, bouncing here and there and everywhere.

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Or what's the uh Beatles song? And don't we also have a daughter who plays this French horn?

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Oh yeah. Yeah who?

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I can't remember.

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Sergeant Pepper? Or daughter Sergeant Pepper?

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Sergeant Pepper. Uh Bowie. The Bowie version was pretty good. He actually did it live with Ray Davies at Carnegie Hall.

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Bowie to Bowie.

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Bowie to Bowie. Bowie to Bowie. Uh, do you know, do you ever listen to Elliot Smith?

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I don't know. It sounds familiar.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like you would like Elliot Smith. Okay. He's another guy. He's got he's like Rick Steves.

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You can't like him.

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I can't. The quality, he's got some of that Billy Eilish ASMR singing, whisper singer. But he's very I I have listened to several of his songs. He's very good. And people like are diehard Elliott Smith fans. He's got a nice cover of this. Um worth checking out. Uh, Kathy Dennis, you know anything about her?

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No.

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She was pretty cool. She reminded me of like if what was the song Love Fool? Or Love Soul? The Cardigans? Yeah. It was a Love Fool. Yeah, yeah. From The Cardigans.

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From the Bromeo and Juliet soundtrack.

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It kind of got it had it was from that era. So just imagine if they did.

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Did she have like butterfly clips in a cropped cardigan sweater?

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I think she did.

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Um, I don't know.

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No, she might have. She looked like she looks like somebody who might rock a butterfly clip.

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Like a late 90s.

SPEAKER_01

But Ray Davies was actually in Dray or Dave was driving her around London in that in that video. So but it was pretty good. Actually, I kind of liked it.

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That's neat.

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Um The Jam. That'd be basically like they were like uh almost like almost like if the if the like 70s, 80s kind of punkier version of the Kinks did their own song. That would be like what the jam did. That's cool. Yeah. Um, you got Annie McKay and the metaphors from uh you got Def Leppard did a version of it. I no I don't like Def Leppard, I just don't. I I they're catchy, I get why people like them. They got some sort of they got this like new metal staleness to them that just like doesn't sit right with me. I can't quite lock into them.

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I've never stopped them with it.

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I don't know. Uh sorry, all Def Leopard fans. Uh Ethan Hawke, we'll stop with him.

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Wow.

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Not great.

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No, no, I didn't I don't think he's a great singer.

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It wasn't great. Like I was like, oh, cool, it's gonna be, but it was just wasn't good. Like, and some of it wasn't even his fault. Like the actual, like the changes and the like the just none of it, it just wasn't good. It wasn't a good version of it at all. So I'll have to I want to listen to that. Shame on everybody involved in that. Because what I was gonna say was what I was gonna say was every other until I listened to that one, that might have been what I went out on. Up until that point, I was like, I don't think you can screw up Waterloo Sunset because it's just that good of a song. Like, as long as you can tell what it is, it's gonna hit. And then Ethan Hawk had to show up and freaking ruin things for me.

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All right.

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Anything else you want to say about it?

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Well, are you ready to talk covers and soundtracks and B-Sax?

Covers We Loved And Final Picks

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Oh, yeah, that's well, that's what that was my my segue.

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Oh, yeah. All right.

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Although I do want to say, you know what, I did find quotes that people said about it.

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Okay.

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The most beautiful song in the English language was a Robert Christgal, a critic, wrote that. Possibly the most beautiful song of the rock and roll era, Stephen Thomas Erlwin said that. Uh Pete Townsend from The Who said Divine, a masterpiece.

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Okay, I'll accept that.

SPEAKER_01

Um David Gilmore said, when asked what song he wished he'd written, he named Waterloo Sunset. Uh Jimi Hendrix told Ray at Jimi Hendrix is like, Jimi Hendrix apparently has talked to every rock star who's ever lived.

SPEAKER_03

Even though he wasn't alive for very long.

SPEAKER_01

If you look up anything on like Reddit or Quora or anything, it's always like, this is the band that Jimi Hendrix said. Like he talks, he's got comments on Z Z Top. He's got comments on um.

SPEAKER_03

He wasn't even very old when he died, right?

SPEAKER_01

No, no, he's 27.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, how he didn't wasn't alive long enough. This is AI B S.

SPEAKER_01

I do think he, I mean, he was definitely around. I mean, he started as a session player, but um, anyways. But um getting off topics, but um But what did he say about it though? Oh uh sorry, he said, Man, I love your tune. And then he played the riff right there in the corridor with his left hand. So like he said, I loved it, and then he actually started playing it, like the riff.

SPEAKER_03

Like, see how much I loved it. I play it.

SPEAKER_01

I know it. I know it. But I also want to play Peter Frampton, even though it hasn't come out yet. Hey, do you like Neil Sadaka? You like Calendar Girl? Okay. Neil Sadaka.

SPEAKER_03

All right, let's do it. It's my favorite part of the music talking. Let me find my who do you want to hear cover it?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I want to find where I wrote down who I want to hear covering it. Um You don't know? Well, I I I so there is somebody I want to hear covering it.

SPEAKER_03

But I also have 40 that I don't want to hear.

SPEAKER_01

I can't remember if this is the one I wanted to settle on.

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Oh, wait a water.

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You know what? Yeah. So I heard uh Hank, I heard Hank Marvin do it, who's uh he did an instrumental, he's from the shadows. I heard Def Leopard do it. Def Leopard do it. I actually did like some of what they were doing. There's I don't completely hate Def Leopard. There's some stuff I do like. I like the rock version of it kind of. It's just a little too, whatever, a little too Def Leopard. But then uh Bowie, he was super electro guitar heavy. So I'd like to hear an electric guitar British rock band that could really go off and do some stuff, but also do it justice in singing. So I'd like to hear Bebop Deluxe do it. Oh Bill Nelson. We have you listened to Bebop Deluxe?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, with you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I really love Bebop Deluxe. They're if they're like the uh people under the stairs of rock and roll. Extremely underrated. Um what about you?

SPEAKER_03

Well, can you guess mine? Because I've been listening to them a lot lately.

SPEAKER_01

You've been listening to them a lot lately.

SPEAKER_03

It's the Arctic monkeys.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I could have guessed that.

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Yeah.

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That'd be great.

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It would be.

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Yeah. It's very, I mean, you could because they were kind of heavier of those groups, of like the what, like the strokes and like that, those early 2000s.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I often wonder why, because we have that great playlist that we listen to at the beach. And I feel like Arctic Monkeys should have been making more of an appearance on that.

SPEAKER_01

They got a lot of songs, but I don't know I don't know how many songs how many songs I think are hits just because I'm familiar with them, because like Pandora feeds them to me. Yeah. Or if it's because they were actually getting a lot of radio play. Because I can't remember when they were kind of in a place where I was listening to a lot of digital media as much as I was like terrestrial radio, when they were kind of getting big. So I don't know how much of their songs are actually hits, but I do like them. They'd be great.

SPEAKER_03

Um yeah, that's mine, Arctic monkeys.

SPEAKER_01

If you know what I would I sorry, there is one other person.

SPEAKER_03

Who?

SPEAKER_01

Who Earl Clue. Oh so Earl Clue, my favorite version. And can I just roll onto my B-side? Yes. My favorite version um of Laughter in the Rain by Neil Sadaka is a Earl Clue cover where he just plays all the melody on his guitar. It's an instrumental. I would like to hear him do the same for Waterloo Sunset. He's got a song called Santiago Sunset.

SPEAKER_03

Is that your B-side?

SPEAKER_01

It's beautiful. No, my B side is Laughter in the Rain by Neil Sadaka.

SPEAKER_03

So sorry. Did you say that?

SPEAKER_01

I think I did. Maybe not. Um okay. Cover cover B Bob Deluxe. I was gonna go with Earl Clue. Yeah, but I was gonna change it to Earl Clue.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, but then and then B side is has to be a different song.

SPEAKER_01

It's Laughter in the Rain, Neil Sadaka.

SPEAKER_03

Alright.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we'll do that.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Then your My B side is holiday by Weezer. Your Holiday in the Sun. What's that song called? Uh is it?

SPEAKER_00

Island in the Sun. Island in the Sun. Like it's not a holiday in the sun.

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Is that hip hip?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's what I want. Yes, that's what I want.

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Yeah.

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We need to do Weezer song.

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That's a good idea. I like it. It's it follows the theme.

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Yeah.

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I thought about Well Respected Man, like a kink song.

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Yeah.

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Just because that whole kind of put me in the thought process of like a of the creep? Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But I love that song too. Um what's your soundtrack?

SPEAKER_03

It's uninspired.

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I've already kind of Blown mine there.

SPEAKER_03

Uh Teeny Bopper Beach Movie crap.

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Just j just that whole Yeah.

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There's actually a Disney movie called Beach Movie, I think.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. But I'm Beach Party? Is it Beach Party?

SPEAKER_03

I'm pretty sure. Remember there was um high school musical?

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Yeah.

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And after that they came out with one called like Beach Party or something like that.

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Okay.

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Kind of tongue in cheek, I think.

SPEAKER_01

So you would like it, would it be a British one?

SPEAKER_03

But I was gonna say it would be more I would like for it to be on more of a teen beach, like maybe a psychological thriller teenager beach movie.

SPEAKER_01

Whoa. It sounds like you just really want to watch a psychological thriller teenager beach movie.

SPEAKER_03

How did you want?

SPEAKER_01

But you want Waterloo Sunset to be kind of like what when you hear this song, you think of a teenage psychological.

SPEAKER_03

I I feel like it could well you're the one who just said it was like a creepy stalker song. It is, I know.

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It's just that's great.

SPEAKER_03

But there's like some hollow happiness to the song to me, and I feel like it would fit in a place like where you're supposed to be having a great time, but something creepy is happening.

SPEAKER_01

But did you just did you just like realize that that's the angle you'd like to take it? Or what were you when you started with Disney Beach movie?

SPEAKER_03

I wasn't really wanting Disney Beach movie. I just wanted a teenager beach movie, but more of our drama than the Disney movie.

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More serious, more like OC. Is that is that teenage? The the LC.

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I never watched it.

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Was Laura Laughlin in that?

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I don't know.

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Does she ever what movie? What am I thinking of?

SPEAKER_03

Honey, I have no idea.

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Is that the name of it? Honey, I have no idea. She's like, well, this is California. She gets on her BMX bike.

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Starts dancing.

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I gotta get to the dance. It's a rad reference. Okay. Um, I like that. I like where that conversation went. Um I like the I felt a little judged. No, I I was curious to know if you came out, if you if you were thinking, I like this because it's set a beautiful.

SPEAKER_03

But I didn't want it to be cheesy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But then I didn't know if at some point you're like, I do like the creepy element, so let's make this movie also a creepy movie.

SPEAKER_03

I maybe I did, you know. But I sound like I did.

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I was curious, it wasn't an accusation. If I'm sorry if it came out that way.

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It's okay.

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I'm sorry for the uh for the listeners.

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I'm not cooking dinner tonight.

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Is that uh true story?

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That was a that was a consequence of your actions. We have a lot of left. That was a consequence of your actions. All right, are we done?

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I already said rear window.

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Oh, right.

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Right. Uh what was the one with Shia LaBeouf? Or buff or beef?

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Uh Shia La Beef, yeah. Shia LeBee. Side of beef. Side of beef.

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Side of side of side of the beef. Side of the beef.

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I don't know. He was uh it was that man is off as a rocker.

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He's got a uh he's like got a bum leg or something. It's like rear window with beef.

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I don't know, Rob. I have no idea.

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Okay. We want to wrap it up. I do guys. This is the audience won't like it. Thank you so much for being with us and spending time with us in this line here.

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The concert's almost ready. If you would like to hear this song, you'll have to go to YouTube if you're not already at YouTube.

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Pop up at the end of this video, or yeah, you go to YouTube to it. Yes. It is called Waterloo Sunset by the Kinks. We are the audience won't like it. Hopefully, if you Google it, that will come up. But you could just go to our directly. I try to put links, I'm trying to build links into all the link building. Link building, building links. I like only built for Cuban links. Oh. I'll give you 10 bucks. I'll make dinner if you could tell me. Who only built for Cuban links? Whose album is that? We've talked about it on the podcast.

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I don't know. I don't know.

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Raekwon the chef?

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I would never have said I don't even know that word. Who the heck is that? Raekwanda Chef.

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Inside of La Beef. Inside of La Beef. There's a project they worked all together. Yeah.

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L Cuban L-Y-N-S.

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Wu Tang. Remember, um yeah, we talked about because I listened when I was burning the couch, all the all that stuff. Oh, I listened to uh Liquid Swords. Swords. Swords. S Word Liquid S Words. Uh Only Built for Cuban links, and uh and uh crap, the dirty version of uh old Dirty Bastard. Oh uh 36 return oh, is it 36 Chambers, the dirty?

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No, no, I think we're done here though.

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Okay. Um we love you guys. We love love love you all, including you.

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I don't miss each other.

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I don't miss each other.

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Comment what show that's from. And we'll see you next time. Bye. Bye.