Trials and Tribble-ations: Watching Star Trek Watch Itself | Ep 31

We watch Star Trek’s “The Trouble With Tribbles” and then Deep Space Nine’s “Trials And Tribbleations” to see how the same story hits in two eras and why the tribute works so well. Then we switch gears and play a cover of Rend Collective’s “My Lighthouse” while we talk through what makes it fun and surprisingly tricky to perform.  
• The waiting in line premise and our chaotic setup  
• What we’re reading and listening to plus the joy of quitting books  
• Cleveland trip recap and a harpsichord heavy Bach festival shout-out  
• Why “The Trouble With Tribbles” still holds up as comedy sci fi  
• Low budget tribbles, poisoned grain, and the reveal of a Klingon agent  
• The DS9 time travel hook and how they blend into 1960s footage  
• Worf’s “we do not speak of this” Klingon continuity joke  
• Why “My Lighthouse” works as upbeat contemporary Christian music  
• Fast strumming and singing challenges plus favorite chord moments  
• Our cover and B side picks and the mood comparisons  
Hey guys, if you're still hanging around, why don't you go ahead and uh hit that subscribe button or uh give us a like us a review? A five-star review. Only a five-star review.  

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Transcript

Getting Mic Setup In Line

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On this episode of The Audience Will Like It.

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Uh huh.

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And they thought I think a little light bulb went off.

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And they were like, dead body.

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They well, they actually used carpet scraps.

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Okay, well you can.

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Yeah, they spend like 350 bucks on the whole thing.

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Well, you can tell. Klingins.

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Half of them say Klingons.

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And some of them are saying clinging. Yeah.

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And some say clingons.

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And they're just regular white people. With no makeup on, no weird forehead prosthetics. They're like skinny regular dudes.

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They just look like space grease balls. Yes. They don't know that they don't know that they should stop. They should stop falling out. So they just keep watching trembles at the curtain at Chandler's head.

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And I think God for the lighthouse.

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That's how it goes.

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I owe my life to it.

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I owe my life to it.

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My life to it.

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Life to it. It's a life alert.

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It's a life alert commercial.

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This is tricky.

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Waiting in line is hard.

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Waiting in line sucks. Unless.

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Unless you're doing it with two of your best friends. Two of your best friends.

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Good conversation with a little buddy.

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Two of your best friends. Ooh, I even got a foot bar.

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Let's see how this is, huh?

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Yeah, you're in there. Am I? Yep.

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Okay. That's an E.

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Yep. Not an E minor.

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Never. Here we go. Two married friends. In a basement room.

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It's gonna be a good one, guys. Stay tuned.

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Standing in line.

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For real this time.

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With two microphones. They got in a car crash. She died in his arms. He kissed her lips. Cause she was still warm. The audience won't like it. No, not at all.

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What audience?

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Oh my gosh, great.

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Hey, if you're just joining us, we have 32 subscribers holding strong. What? We got another one since when? Yesterday?

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You know what the uh the sweet, sweetheart?

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Oh, Grandmother Terry.

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For the 32 who have been uh with us for so so long now.

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Was Grandma Terry the 32th?

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Grandma Terry was sort of the first one. My mom.

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Uh-huh.

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Hang on a second. Look at this. But the irony of it is she uh you got your back to the crowd.

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Is this gonna work?

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I think so.

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You guys, we did not test this out before we stood here.

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We didn't test anything out. This is something else right here. She was the uh she's the most recent subscriber. She's never been subscribed.

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I know. I heard that you got her all set up.

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But I got her uh I got her uh set up with a YouTube with a with a Google account.

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Did she not already have one?

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She had one, but we had to kind of uncover it, reset some passwords, do some resyncing. That sort of thing.

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So are you feeling happy with this setup right now? Any adjustments you want to make while I introduce the show?

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Well, I'm thinking maybe that it'd be cool to stand regularly a little bit.

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Like this? Like this? Like this?

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Hang on.

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Oh, if you can't see us, guys, tune into YouTube because we do film this and it is a great breakfast.

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Check this out, hang on.

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Oh, Rob's gonna move a microphone.

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And I could do like this. Yeah. You know what we need is uh What do we need, Rob? A way that I can uh move around. Well, I was I guess I just got really good at shoulder circles here.

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You know, something we might think about in the future is putting these in front of us.

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Putting putting what? The microphones in front of us.

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Because right now, if you're not watching, we're standing in front of the microphones and trying to face the camera.

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Can we ride the microphones? Could we like have straddle it and like a like a horse broom horse thing? Like a broom horse thing. Like a skin horse.

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Like a skinned horse.

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Skin, is it skinned or skinned?

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I always thought it was skinned.

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We're talking velveteen rabbit here for the side.

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It was skin, though.

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So uh let's talk about this show that we've got to be.

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Although I don't know how that makes it better. I kind of like the uh It's either a horse that's been skinned, like Mr. Goodbody, or it's a skin horse, so a horse made from skin.

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Times were really dark. I think when the when was that book written?

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Scarlet Fever was raging through the teens in English countryside.

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Was that maybe the teens? Perhaps it was. People died. It's still very loud in my own ears, but that's all right it was it was not uncommon for a horse to get skinned alive back then.

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And then and then become part of the nursery magic.

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I almost got a minor in history. I think I I think I remember that. Yeah, and then become part of the nursery magic. It's a tough road, but the magic's worth it. Yeah.

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Alright, well, welcome to the audience won't like it, where there's a podcast featuring me, Leslie Shoecraft, and you.

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Rob Shoecraft.

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And we're waiting in line today.

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We're waiting in line. Guys, this is a kind of a big big deal for us because this podcast, as you know, is about two people.

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It's so dumb. But now we're committed, so we gotta do this for another 90 minutes. Anyway.

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We're gonna do an hour.

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This is a podcast that simulates waiting in line. An hour.

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I'm just kind of nervous right now because I'm so I'm so much closer to you than I normally am.

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You prayed you're gonna try to kiss me?

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Kinda.

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Don't. I wouldn't recommend it.

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This is uh anyway.

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This is a podcast where we simulate waiting in line, and then at the end you get to go to a concert. Do you even know whose concert we're going to today, Rob?

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Yes, the Ren Collective, of course.

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Yes, Rend Collective. They do a they're a Christian band.

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They are, they're Irish.

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To the S. And they have some fun songs, some fun music, and uh you're gonna you the thing, the punchline, is that after waiting in line here with uh me and Rob and and hearing all of our banter and cute stuff that we're gonna say, and maybe perhaps some kissing today because we're so close together. Then you get to see the concert, but the twist is that it's not gonna be run collective, not gonna be anybody Irish. It's gonna be me and Rob. Hi five, Rob. Oh yeah.

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Yeah, maybe I could like uh yes it is, and then I could probably Wow, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe sort of have it under here like this.

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I feel like we should have put s any amount of thought into this before we hit recording. We did.

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You know what we did put a thought into it. Uh we did we got a ballet bar.

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No, this is a this is a stanchion.

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Yeah, well, we got an actual one, but I'd take it. That was not an actual stanchion. It wasn't.

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Rob brought home some fencing crap and I made him take it back. Did you take it back to work?

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Yeah.

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Is it still in the bed of your truck?

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No, I took it out.

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What did your buddy say when you brought it back?

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I did it while they were out.

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You didn't tell them.

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No, you didn't see it. Sorry, Travis.

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Travis didn't think I was gonna want that, did he?

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I told Travis I might be bringing it right back.

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And you did.

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He said, because he was like, you if you take one, you gotta take all of them, and I was like, I actually might not even keep this one. He said, Oh.

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I see.

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Okay.

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Okay. Alright, well, welcome. Welcome. So, Rob, what have you been up to?

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Um man, I've been reading, uh listening to The Wisdom of Psychopaths. Ooh, I can't wait to get my Kevin Dunden.

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Little fingering teeth in that.

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I'm uh I'm kind of a mess this well, I'm a mess today.

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It's been a long weekend.

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Yeah, let's just lean into it. Wisdom of Psychopaths, Kevin Dun. I'm about 80% done with it.

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It sounded like you said dun dun like.

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Kevin Dun dun dun dun yeah. Oh, uh Law and Order?

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No. Just go on. I'm also not doing great.

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Kevin Hawaii 500.

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Oh, is that right?

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Yeah. That's good.

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Thank you.

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Kevin Hawaii 5 written by Kevin Hawaii 50. And uh it's a book about uh I'm probably not gonna finish it.

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Really? You got what you needed out of it?

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Yeah, I got what I needed out of it. It's really interesting. I I don't first of all, I just really want to finish the madness, the met whatever the second Joe Joe Abercrombie trilogy is for uh March Madness. March Madness um basketball method novel Method of Madness or whatever it's called. I just call it something. And um I want to finish it. And uh I can Mr. Dudden, with respect, I mean he f picked some incredible content and he has a great way of showing it. And I feel like just the way he writes, he writes like um no, it's kind of it's it's the thing, it seems like really inconsistent. I almost need to come back to it. Like the parts there are parts that I really want him to talk more about, but he just will say them once and then it's it's done. And he he won't really he doesn't always elaborate.

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He doesn't always a psychopath test.

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You're failing.

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You're not a psychopath? If you fail the psychopath test, are you a psychopath or are you not one? Has he covered that yet?

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There's no such thing. Oh yeah, this is a spectrum. Psychopathy is a spectrum, um, and there's all sorts of different kinds, and there's I like it to say psychopathy. Psychopathy?

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Yeah, that's how I like to say it.

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You're strange. And there's all sorts of types of psychopaths, and there's good ones and bad ones and little ones, and and uh cute ones, furry ones, like little triple ones.

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Aw, ooh, a little drop, a little hint.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

A little hint. But it is really interesting. I I I'm not gonna I didn't prepare any notes for it. I the thing that he does that drives me kind of a little nuts is the way he writes, it's almost like I mean, I know it wasn't written by AI, but it's almost written by like it if you're trying to sound make everything sound like it's just so dramatic and and cool.

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Like I don't like that.

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Like if he's talking about this cool guy, like this this super bad like a uh Navy, he's an SAS guy. There's an actual they studies a lot of like real people, high like high speed operators and killers and CEOs and it's surgeons and actual murderers, like bad guy murderers, like serial killers. Not like the good kind of murderer, not the good kind of murderer, like our friend, but we're gonna talk about. He's talking about this guy, and it's just like he makes well instead of just saying he's had a facial reconstructive surgery because he got busted up or got his mouth busted up, it's like he has more porcelain in his mouth than a Home Depot clear at sale at a something. So it's just like sounds like he's like a trucker, just trying to sex up every sentence and make it so but then he'll shift, which is kind of fun. I mean, it's sort of funny sometimes, but then he'll shift into picking the longest, biggest words he could possibly come up with to almost make it sound like he's pivoting on academia or something. And it's just like pick a lane, dude.

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Yeah.

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You can't, you know, and it just kind of wears on me a little bit.

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Gotcha.

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And honestly, I to with respect to him, I really want to uh I want to get uh back into the the book that well you should.

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You don't have to finish it.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

Yeah, no.

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Who cares?

SPEAKER_00 11:11

I quit books all the time.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

Books Podcasts And Quitting Things

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I do don't all the time, but I do quit them.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

Well, not all the time, but it's not it's not I I was listening to I don't remember the the dude's name. I'm not gonna remember anything today, but this guy on um I think I think Tim Ferris had him on, and he was talking about how he likes to read like seven books at a time, and that he doesn't have any kind of draw to finish any of them, or it's just Oh, that person sounds gross. I can't he does finish them, but if you don't want to finish it, then don't finish it. Right, agreed. Yeah, but it kind of was like, oh yeah, that makes sense. So I do sometimes have two or three books going at once.

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I can't believe you have shoes on right now.

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Oh yeah.

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You guys Rob isn't normally doesn't work shoes. Oh, he's taking his shoes off.

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Am I?

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Oh, I thought you want me to show you. I thought you were sliding one foot in front of you.

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People can't see it, though.

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No, so there's not gonna make any.

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They're not gonna like it knowing they're naked down there and they can't see them.

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And they can't send us a few.

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I could stretch, I could throw my foot up on this bar.

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Can you have not that I want to do this, but can you have an OnlyFans page that's like secretly OnlyFans that's not on OnlyFans?

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An OnlyFans page that's secretly OnlyFans.

SPEAKER_02 12:21

That's not Are you talking about just like just like if people want to send us money for your feet on the bar?

SPEAKER_00 12:28

What what are you but but not on OnlyFans? Right.

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I don't want to have an OnlyFans.

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Okay.

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I don't want to lose our jobs.

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You just want to sell pictures of my feet.

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Yeah.

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You could do that on eBay if you'd like.

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EBay.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

Awesome.

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I'm sure there's a foot specific thing or anything else cool you've been listening to or watching?

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Um yeah, probably. Let's just move on. Let's uh what about you?

SPEAKER_02 12:50

Well, I haven't done anything exciting. We had we our our lives are just this season we decided the season is very full. We have dance recitals, band and choir concerts, golf matches, and you know what? They take up a lot of evening act time and we work during the day. So uh we haven't done a whole lot. I will say Radio Rental's back. So if you're a Radio Rental fan, there's been two out. Is it good? It's podcast, yes. It's real good. The first one was fine. So fine. I will say the first one they did retell uh the story about the kid who plays with that girl in the woods. Oh, really? They retold it, the same guy, like the original s person's story, but he retold it, but it was good till the story.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

You talking about the uh the it's like it ends up being Don't give it away.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

Oh gosh. Yeah, yeah. So they so that was like, uh, I mean it was good, but I was like, but then the one that just came out this week was really good. It was about a girl who has is the whatever her job is is to retrieve dead bodies. So she goes to crime scenes, hospitals, or whatever, and like takes them to where she's gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 13:53

Is it like a door, like a DoorDash kind of thing?

SPEAKER_02 13:54

It's like a DoorDash thing, yeah.

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Okay.

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She just like sits in her car and waits to get like a job assignment. She gets a cut of the money.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

I think it sort of kind of works that way. Well, yeah, they're on call. No, it's eating, hopefully, but but yeah.

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But not like just anybody can sign up to drive a dead body like you can for DoorDash.

SPEAKER_00 14:14

Yeah, did you hear you can drive a dead body for DoorDash?

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No, I'm saying you it's not like that.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

They put a lot of have you seen the bodies being driven around nowadays?

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For DoorDash?

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Yeah. I think what happened was the door DoorDash um was listening to our podcast about riding in on people.

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Uh-huh.

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And they thought, I think a little light bulb went off.

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And they were like dead.

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Let's turn dead bodies into cars.

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Bodies into cars.

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Because they were talking about people riding in on other people for our car or animals.

SPEAKER_02 14:47

Oh, right. We do have a concert.

SPEAKER_00 14:49

Guys, it's not like it's mainly not dead people. It's not dead animals.

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Listen, you know what we should do speaking of our concert? Speaking of our concert.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

What?

SPEAKER_02 14:55

And the and the animals people will be riding in on.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

Um back in the day when I was selling Norwex and I was learning how to use Facebook to do online parties, someone created a Facebook party for like twenty eighty-five, let's just say. So it's still in my invites.

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Twenty eighty-five, two thousand eighty-five.

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Like it's gonna be happening on 2085. So it's still in my Facebook invites. So I was thinking we could create an invitation to our concert.

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For just a little far a little bit. Just keep it just in the future. Just a little bit in the distance.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

When then all the right people are dead, then we can have it.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

That's a great idea.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

Okay.

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Guys, check your Facebook messages for an invite.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

Yeah, check check them out. Um, we will be sending them to each one of you and do it too.

SPEAKER_02 15:46

I have also slacked quite a bit on my Instagram this week.

SPEAKER_00 15:49

I haven't sent you corrections corner.

SPEAKER_02 15:51

True, but I could have posted any number of things that I didn't do.

SPEAKER_00 15:55

I also put did put some thought into the sock idea of um anytime you subscribe to the first thousand subscribers, you get a little piece of my sock.

SPEAKER_02 16:04

How do you subscribe to the first thousand subscribers?

SPEAKER_00 16:08

It's uh it's a little bit it's a little tedious.

SPEAKER_02 16:13

This is you subscribing to our first thousand subscribers.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

Well, you subscribe to us first and then you have to follow the subscriber. We'll post the subscribers. You just keep checking.

SPEAKER_02 16:23

How will we know if they've done that so that they can get our sock? Your socks.

SPEAKER_00 16:27

Oh, they're gonna send uh a letter to me.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

At gmail.com?

SPEAKER_00 16:32

No, a letter.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

In the mail?

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

Please how are they gonna know where to send it?

SPEAKER_00 16:36

Don't uh I'm not there yet.

SPEAKER_02 16:37

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

They're gonna send it to our P.O. box. Yeah. It's in Orlando, Florida.

SPEAKER_03 16:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

Uh Nickelodeon Studios. They send us the uh yeah, they'll just send us, hey, just a little something about yourself, like three pages or something, and a couple pictures.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

Like what temperature you like the house to be at?

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Ha ha!

SPEAKER_02 16:59

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 17:00

Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

So yeah, so I did get to listen to that.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

Well, hang on a second, and then I'll take uh the my sock and I'll cut it up in a thousand pieces. Actually, yeah, a thousand pieces, and then I'll get a little baseball card.

SPEAKER_02 17:12

That sounds tedious.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

You well, I won't. You're better with scissors than I am.

SPEAKER_02 17:18

I would get a paper cutter.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Would Clark do it? Would our son with a 13-year-old? We have a 14-ish. Almost a 13-ish, 14-year-old. Maybe we could get uh Caroline's boyfriend to do it.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Oh yeah. That's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 17:32

Okay. And anyways, you stuff the little sock piece in one of those baseball card plastic sleeves.

SPEAKER_02 17:37

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

That protects it?

SPEAKER_02 17:39

These are gonna be some pretty small pieces of sock. I mean, Rob has humongous feet.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

I would use multiple socks.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

Oh, but they have to be have been worn by you.

SPEAKER_00 17:47

I'll wear them.

SPEAKER_02 17:48

Okay, probably is this a great idea?

SPEAKER_00 17:50

I wear it.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

Probably time to table that for now until we get a thousand subscribers, and then we'll we'll come back to it.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

Well, no, no, no, no, no. On the way to a thousand subscribers. So people need to kind of like an incentive. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:02

Oh, all right. Incentive.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:05

If you want to see us get to 1,000 subscribers, we'll send you a piece of Rob's sock. Is that how that goes?

SPEAKER_00 18:12

It's possible.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

That's what I've extrapolated from the screen.

Cleveland Trip And Bach Fest

SPEAKER_00 18:14

Yeah, we're working on it. It's close. It's really close. Okay. Uh good. So you've been uh listening to what now?

SPEAKER_02 18:23

Radio. Radio rental.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

Oh my goodness. So we're gonna keep this one uh short, of course. Um because we just got back from uh Cleveland.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

Yeah, we watched a super cool Baroque Bach Fest. Bach Festival.

SPEAKER_00 18:44

He's Baroque.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

He is, you can't fix it.

SPEAKER_00 18:47

From uh I didn't miss that one.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

1650 to 1685 to 1750 was Bach. That's what you said.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

That's that's when he was those were his life and death dates. Right. But Baroque period, I think, was 1600 too.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

1750-ish.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

1750. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:05

So we have a nephew. He's called Logan. We're gonna give him a shout-out on this podcast, even though he doesn't listen to it.

SPEAKER_00 19:12

He's a professional harpsichord player.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

Professional harpsichord player, like legitimately. We went to watch his uh one of his professional harpsichord concertos.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

He played in the Is that what it was, a concerto?

SPEAKER_02 19:23

They were concertos for harpsichord. Is that just two harpsichords, three harpsichords, and four. He was in the triple and the quartet.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

What makes a concerto different from the concert? I don't know. Is this for a couple of things?

SPEAKER_02 19:32

Well, concerto is a is a r is the name of the work of music. Concert is a thing that you attend.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

Oh, well, you do know.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

Sorry, I thought you were gonna ask me what makes something a concerto, and I don't know that. But it has three movements. It has an adagio, an allegro, and something else.

SPEAKER_00 19:48

I think it's if you call it a composition instead of a song, then it's a concerto.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

Then someone should punch you in the face.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

I have a my teacher at college. I love that guy. You you'd know him. Um I I know you I know you know who he is. I don't think he's alive anymore. But he he used to insist on that.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

Well, if it doesn't have words, it's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

Music appreciation class. I love that class.

SPEAKER_02 20:10

I think it's if it doesn't have words, it's not a song.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 20:15

You guys write in, write in the comments, right in the instrument.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

When you ask for your sock.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

You have to answer the question.

SPEAKER_00 20:21

You have to answer some of these questions here. We're gonna come up with a few.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

Anyway, it was what'd you think about it though?

SPEAKER_00 20:25

I loved it.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

So it had four harpsichords, and then a chamber string chain chamber group. So there was six violins, six violins, a bass, a cello, two violas. Yes. And they played with the harpsichords. And then yeah, it was all beautiful. And then these people were professionals, believe it or not. It wasn't just Logan that was the professional.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

But at some some pe some points you had four harpsichords playing at once.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

Which it almost in a good way almost makes it feel I told Dan to feel like they're like the harpsichords were. Oh, it's Uncle Dan's son.

SPEAKER_02 21:04

Logan is Uncle Dan's son.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

I told Uncle Dan, um Uncle Dan, Uncle Dan, not his son.

SPEAKER_02 21:10

For like the one of you who subscribes that might not already know about that.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

Seth does. Seth's like, I met Uncle Dan. I was like, yeah, that's right. Um so I told him, I'm like, uh, it feels like the harpsichords are like crawling on me.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

Well, I said it sounds as if if there had been slot machines in the 1700s, that's what it would have sounded like.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

That's great.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Because it was just like all kinds of like tinny and like that one dude with the hair, he played fast.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

He looked a lot like um Buck Beard from Ted Lasso, the assistant coach. Or I also thought maybe Owen Owen Wilson with a gray perm.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

Oh, yeah, Owen Wilson with a gray perm. Let's go with that. Yeah. And then what was the name of the girl that was um fighting crime? Or was the crime, was the villain. Because there was also a Chamber choir.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

It looked like one of Zod's, one of the Zod trio from Superman 3. Superman 3. Yeah, she really did. She's great.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Yeah, they're all great.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

So there's this this vocal. Oh, it always was a great book.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

Chamber choir.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Six people? Yeah, six people. They come in, they go back and forth between the harpsichords and the singers. The harpsichord and the strings, don't forget.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

Well, yeah, but the strings were just they were like backup.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

What was your favorite? Logan, right? If Logan wasn't in it, what was your favorite?

SPEAKER_02 22:28

The second Logan left the stage, I was like, I don't care about this anymore.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

I did care. I actually really enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

But I made myself really tune into the last one that had the just the duet, which was the two professors.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 22:41

So there was two professors and two alumni. Logan was one of the alumni.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

Have you ever played Castlevania?

SPEAKER_02 22:47

No, I never have.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Really made me want to play Castlevania.

SPEAKER_02 22:50

What kind of a game is it? Side scrolling?

SPEAKER_00 22:52

It's like a Metroidvania. That's you're not gonna think that's funny, are you?

SPEAKER_02 22:56

I don't think it's funny.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

So Metroid and Castlevania are two kind of platform platforming adventure games that they're still kind of making them, I think, in some some respect. But the the OGs were for Nintendo and Super Nintendo. And you basically in Castlevania you you play a you're just constantly going through this giant castle. It's like Dracula's castle, and you're looking for stuff and you have a whip and you're killing skeletons and all sorts of fun. Folklore.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

Is it would I have been scared by it?

SPEAKER_00 23:30

Uh probably. It's kind of kind of creepy. I mean, the music out honestly adds a lot of the the dread to it, but it's a great soundtrack. I'm not really big into platformers at all, and not even Metroidvania's, but I respect them. I played a little bit for him.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

Can you tell me more about the word Metroidvania?

SPEAKER_00 23:50

So Metroid and Castlevania are two like of the of those type of games. They're not quite a regular platformer, but they're not quite uh like a Zelda either.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

So they're kind of in this, they're kind of in their own camp. So because Metroid and Castlevania are like the two flag flagship titles of this genre, people just call them Metroidvania's.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

Like like um oh, never mind.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Like Kleenex?

SPEAKER_02 24:16

Okay. I was gonna combine two celebrities' names, but they were all escaping me.

SPEAKER_00 24:21

Benefer. Brangelina?

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Yes, and Benefer.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

Yeah, but but that's like uh but that would be like if you were talking about Benefers, like Benefers and Brangelinas, but in other ones that we can't come up with on the fly, you would just refer to them as brangelinas.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

Alright, so I got it now.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

And then people would be like, oh, it's uh oh like we'd be like relas or less rob we would be a brand a brangelina. Less rob would be a brangelina. It's kind of like that.

SPEAKER_02 24:52

I want I want some merch that has something about brangelinas on it.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

So going places here. Um gosh, when's this concert gonna start?

SPEAKER_02 25:00

I don't know, but super we one of the reasons we're actually standing up is because we had to drive from one part of Ohio to the complete other part of Ohio in order to watch this concert. And then we got to visit a new baby, family baby, a new family baby called baby Alan.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

My my other uh younger nephew.

SPEAKER_02 25:20

Oh, right, yeah. And then then we went to visit the newest on your side of the family.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

I'd say folks on your side of the family just kind of have their stuff together a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Like he was a paid uh And you're yeah, your sister's baby was just laying there crying.

SPEAKER_00 25:40

Yeah. I mean, I don't want to say worthless. Yeah. Because he was cute. Yeah. And I love him.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

So there's some redeeming qualities about him.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, my family's so such a trial.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

Garrett was like, I'm sorry you had to hold the baby. I'm like, yeah, me too, Garrett. Sorry I had to hold that baby too.

SPEAKER_00 25:59

Let's say I have a little nephew contest every now and then. And she you won this one handship.

SPEAKER_02 26:04

I did. I did. It's kind of not fair though, because you have five nephews. And I only have two.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

I'm rich in nephews. We are rich in nephew. I got some good ones. Yeah. All right. Wait, I have more than five nephews.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

So anyway, because we had to sit in the car for eight hours. On your side of the family.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

And I thought if the contest was pitting nephew against nephew, it would be your side of the family.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

What is it when you like nephew versus nephew contest? Is it like what's like the Metroidvania Brangelina equivalent?

SPEAKER_02 26:31

Log Island?

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:33

All right. Uh, but anyway, so we had to sit in the car for so, so, so many hours. And I was like, I can't sit in a chair tonight for another 90 minutes and do this podcast. And so Rob was like, uh beat you to it. I went and got Caroline's ballet bar out of the workout facility. And now we're gonna stand here for 90 minutes. And we don't really know what we're doing. Rob's doing a lot of leg stuff. Just keep putting your knee up on the bar. I kind of thought we should turn the bar this direction, like 90 degrees.

SPEAKER_03 27:03

You think so?

SPEAKER_02 27:03

Yeah, but then we'd be like, it would be at the end of the line where you're already around the corner and I'm waiting to go around the corner.

SPEAKER_00 27:10

Maybe it'd be more it could be like that. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Or it could be like I could maybe be holding um maybe like a beer. Two beers.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

Line beer. And I'd be like They call those line drinks.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

Because I just I was like, hey, um, yeah, let's like a line drink. I'm holding a line drink, and I because I just said, hey, save say I'm gonna come back, I'm gonna grab a couple beers, uh, and I'll be like coming back and coming back in line. So I'm on the other side.

SPEAKER_02 27:33

Oh, yeah. So you're like on your way.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

Or I could be like a audience won't like that. Homeless guy.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

No.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

Asking for money. Unhoused. Unhoused.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

How could you?

SPEAKER_00 27:43

I don't have to be unhoused. I could just be asking for money.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Have you have you ever sorry I'm going to talk about videos on the internet, but have you ever seen those videos where people take their children, their teenagers' texts, and then have AI make songs out of them?

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Probably.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

They're hilarious. There's like one person posted one where it was like they made it into a country song, and it's literally their teenage son asking for money in like every conceivable version of asking someone for money. Send me money. Can I have money? I need money. It's so funny because it's like he never says anything back. Like the mom's like, I love you, or something like that. He's like, Can you send me money?

SPEAKER_00 28:22

It's just like a compilation over the like.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

Yeah, they just write a country song and they show the screenshots of the text messages that are supplying the lyrics. You guys, the internet's a fun place. It's a good time. Don't have too much fun there. Come back to the real world every once in a while.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

Every once in a while. After you're done with this particular podcast.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Not super soon. At least in an hour. At least an hour. You have at least an hour.

Why These Two Star Trek Picks

SPEAKER_00 28:46

An hour? Yeah. Do we want to get into it? We don't have to do a full 90 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

No, we sure don't. I think we can get into it.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

You want to just get into it.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

Is there anything else you wanted to say?

SPEAKER_00 28:54

Into it? No. I want to uh I want to check this box.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

And I want to check it um where no treble has come before. Right. Something like that.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

So you might know you might know about how how me and Rob really like to watch TV and movies.

SPEAKER_00 29:17

We talk about movies and TV. We've talked about the X Files. We've talked about Star Trek. We've talked about a million things.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

Our first episode was.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

We still gotta make that data sheet, Jeffrey. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

Hang on, Jeffrey, because he's getting right on that.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

Making it I am. I've been thinking a lot about it, actually.

SPEAKER_02 29:31

Track Next Generation, The Inner Light was our very first episode.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

So we have we've returned to our roots. What episode is this?

SPEAKER_00 29:40

This is 31.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

31esie?

SPEAKER_00 29:45

31esie. Wow. Oh, romper talk. Ramper versus onesie. It's similar to nephew versus nephew. It's uh you uh what's going on, huh?

SPEAKER_02 29:54

Well you were you made indicated as if I should.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

Well, you just turn little bumps into there.

SPEAKER_02 29:58

Well I'm in a cage. I can't help it. Um anyway, we're back with some more to Star Trek, and this time tell us what we did because it was so fun. I wish we could do this all the time.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

What well let me uh let me tell you what we did and then I'll I'll ask you what you mean by that. Okay. We watched The Trouble with Tribbles, which is the uh the original series Star Trek.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

What episode was that?

SPEAKER_00 30:26

That give me a second.

SPEAKER_02 30:28

You're gonna need to hold that computer over here because you can't keep turning away from the camera.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

Oh man, I'm figuring this, figuring this out. Figuring out, guys. 1967. And it was 1966. Well, I got 67.

SPEAKER_02 30:39

Well, I wrote down what you told me, which was that night.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

Oh, I lied to you a lot.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

It's 67. 1967, The Trouble with Tribbles. And so we watched that one.

SPEAKER_00 30:50

And then we so what should I do? Should I put it here?

SPEAKER_02 30:52

No, I think you need to pick it up. Okay, hold it here.

unknown 30:57

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 30:58

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

Okay. And then we we watched after that, we watched uh season five. Trials and tripleations.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

That's cute.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

From Deep Space Nine.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

Deep Space Nine, season five, episode six. That was uh 1996.

SPEAKER_02 31:17

So separated by 30 years.

SPEAKER_00 31:19

It's probably a it's probably done for a 30-year anniversary.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

Guys, when I was alive in the 96s, the 60s were much, much further back than 30 years.

SPEAKER_00 31:29

You you mean like a felt?

SPEAKER_02 31:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

A felt difference.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

So like that's the 90s to us today.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

Which is gross.

unknown 31:38

It's wild.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

Our children are probably like, you guys are the dumbest, most lame people ever.

SPEAKER_00 31:44

So it's probably true. So I take it you uh I take it you loved loved what we did because you just said we did.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

So what I loved was so what happens is just to not to spoil everything, but the deep space.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

We are going to spoil everything.

SPEAKER_02 31:59

But I mean spoil ours ourselves. But Deep Space Nine gets taken back in time to this episode. So you see the original characters the original like TV show, and they are in it. And it's so great. It was A, it was great because the 66 the original Star Trek is just hilarious. Yes. And this was great too. Like how they kind of were tongue in cheek, I guess, a little bit about it. But anyway, let's get into it.

SPEAKER_00 32:33

Yeah, no, it was it was great. They did basically what they did was the they gave it like the forest gum treatment where they take real footage. Yeah. Um and real footage of of the the original series episode.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

So what was the real footage in Forrest Gum?

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Oh, lots of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Like actual real footage.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

Yes. Like John Lennon, not real footage of a triples and tribulation of a TV show. Trouble with triples.

SPEAKER_02 32:56

Not footage of a fictional show.

SPEAKER_00 32:58

Well, let me think think about that. There might have been.

SPEAKER_02 33:01

So it's not exactly what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 33:03

No, but what I mean is like they took They used film.

SPEAKER_02 33:05

Yeah. Found film and and superimposed themselves into it, basically.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

Yes. Yeah. Yeah, but not only that, but they also shot the entire. They also shot the Deep Space Nine episode with the filter. The f more than the filter, like the actual as close to the film as they could get it. They slid out the stuff. I wondered if that's how Deep Space Nine always looked. Check off showed them like how to flip the flip those. So yeah, so the Deep Space Nine showed them how to operate the uh the stations and the panels and everything, like the way they did it on the show. So he was like a technical advisor. They like really went to town trying to make this like the perfect fan service.

SPEAKER_02 33:52

So the but in the storyline, the Deep Space Nine have to go and like fix something, catch somebody. And so, but they can't, they don't want to interact with the actual crew because they don't want to disrupt, like change the timeline. Right. Create an alternate timeline.

SPEAKER_00 34:06

Right.

SPEAKER_02 34:07

So that's why they're there.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

Yes. Yeah, they're trying to catch uh what's his name? Arvin? Is it Arvin?

SPEAKER_02 34:12

Uh they're trying to catch.

SPEAKER_00 34:16

It's the actor he was the act I don't know. It was the actor who was in uh he was the in the original and he was also in this one. He was ended up being the bad guy in both of them. But it's um yeah, I don't know if I hate it.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

What the heck was that guy's name? We were making fun of him.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

Oh, okay. Good keep talking about the the episode.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

Alright, so we'll let's start talking off what the trouble with triples.

Trouble With Tribbles Plot Breakdown

SPEAKER_00 34:38

Cool.

SPEAKER_02 34:38

It doesn't it's it's the original. Yeah, the original from 1967. First of all, Kirk Cam Kirk Cameron.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

I wish. Uh Darwin.

SPEAKER_02 34:51

William Shatner. Darvin.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

Darvin was the villain's name.

SPEAKER_02 34:54

Darvin was the bad guy. Alright, so it opens with Captain Kirk having to get his he has to go protect some grain and he's not happy about it.

SPEAKER_00 35:05

Quadra quadra trichos Trichinosis? What is that called?

SPEAKER_02 35:11

Four-legged pig disease.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

Uh four-legged, is it is it four-legged legged pig?

SPEAKER_02 35:15

I think so.

SPEAKER_00 35:16

Quadra tick quad quad quadra quad quad quadra. Oh my gosh, Rob's having a stroke. Trichacale? Tick a.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

Who cares? It's grain.

SPEAKER_00 35:24

Well, it was really it was a big part of the like uh check off. Everybody knew it was, like Spock knew exactly what it was, Chuck Off knew what it was, but Kirk didn't know what it was. Kirk was very bothered by that.

SPEAKER_02 35:34

Yeah, well, because it was Quadro Trickale. Okay, thanks for getting that right. That mattered. It mattered. It was a big part of the show. I'm not saying it wasn't a big part of the show, but the name itself, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

I was uh interested in that. Do we want to talk about that at all? Uh I it's I could say it, try to say it more times.

SPEAKER_02 35:55

We can come to it as we as we arrive in the plot. Did I spit in your eye just now?

SPEAKER_00 35:59

No.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

I wish I just wish he did.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

So I was like, So the first thing I wrote down was how cute Spock and Kirk are.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

How cute they are or acute.

SPEAKER_02 36:08

How cute they are. But then I got a little distracted at Spock because he was very much wearing eyeshadow. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

I wonder how much of that was to make him look like a Vulcan?

SPEAKER_00 36:20

Well, I mean, what I mean is like how much of that is due to like we weren't supposed to notice.

SPEAKER_02 36:27

Poor quality cameras. And so they're just enhancing how they looked, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

Kirk, for instance, I we'll come back to the eyeshadow immediately. But Kirk, just as to what I'm talking about, Kirk was he's wearing a green shirt, but it's it's gold. Like in the original, it comes out of gold because of the lighting and the color. Yeah. But when you watch it in a, you know, we were watching basically a Blu-ray version.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

Yeah. That is came out green. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 36:55

So just like, you know, Litter Nimoy, Spock.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

Sure. I gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

Yeah, you got it.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

That was great, though.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

But they were they were super hot in eyeshadow, though, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_02 37:05

Yeah, he's hot. He's a hot guy.

SPEAKER_00 37:07

Yeah, maybe what how do you do you think you'd still like him if he wasn't wearing eyeshadow? What if that eyeshadow was kind of like I would like him more? Kind of bringing the room together, if you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

Maybe for you.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

What who's hotter, Leonard Nimoy or or uh d during uh episode during 1967, who was hotter? Um William Shatner. William Shatner or Leonard Nimoy.

SPEAKER_02 37:28

I I would I'm my I'm a Leonard Nimoy person. I but you know how I can't separate people from From how they act. Yeah, or their name, you know, that kind of stuff. So like I just the way William Shatner bopped around on that ship.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

It's the greatest.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

Did you know he walked like that?

SPEAKER_00 37:48

I mean, I haven't seen that episode, and plus I used to watch, I mean, I haven't seen all the original series, but I've seen a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 37:52

These like hips are swinging back and forth. Dude. And he's like walking, leading with his belly button kind of.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

Yeah, he's all swag as just swagger center back.

SPEAKER_02 38:01

Yeah, swagger.

SPEAKER_00 38:02

Beyond it's different from swagger. It's almost a he's a he's got a little zest in him.

SPEAKER_02 38:07

He has a little zest.

SPEAKER_00 38:08

He's uh when he when he's running, he's kind of like almost power walking. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 38:13

Yeah. And that must have been really good.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

Almost like he has listened to a song.

SPEAKER_02 38:16

How old was he?

SPEAKER_00 38:18

Oh, that's a good question. We'll find out in a second. You you look up how old he was.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 38:22

And I will uh I want to talk about William Shatner and and like can I can I talk about when he when he came into the uh the captain's chair?

SPEAKER_02 38:32

Yeah. Holy smokes, he's 95 years old. 95 now, but then so then he would have been 36.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

36. Wow. Yeah, he looked about 36.

SPEAKER_02 38:42

I feel as though he looked older than you thought he did?

SPEAKER_00 38:45

Yeah. Okay. I wonder how old literally Nemoy was.

SPEAKER_02 38:48

I'll find out. Okay. While you continue to talk about when William Shatner came in.

SPEAKER_00 38:51

William Shatner is, I know you guys can't see me if you're listening to this, but he's Captain Kirk is is walking, it's just some random scene in the middle of the of the uh episode, and he's kind of walking up to the captain's chair, and he's literally, he's he's again to to to quote Leslie, he's bopping back and forth. His hips go one way, his head goes the other. Yes. And then he kind of does this little like yes, yeah, like like a uh pumps his arm down. Pumps his arm, and he's just like boom, and then sits down.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

And I saw it first. And I was like, wait, I think you should rewind this. I think he needed to see that.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

Yeah, I said, Do I need to see that again? He said, I think you do. And I didn't know. All right, same age.

SPEAKER_02 39:34

They're both born in 31.

SPEAKER_00 39:36

Oh, wow. Yeah, Nimoy was a uh he was a hustler. I'm sure Shatner was too. But Leonard Nimoy is one of those dudes, he's like a uh um Danny Trejo, like a machete kind of guy who'll just take any job there is. Whatever, who cares? Anytime they're like, there's a convention in Vegas, can you make it? And no one else would go, he would go. Yeah. He's just like, I never know. I don't know when the paychecks are gonna start drying up. When Star Trek's not cool anymore, I'm gonna keep it.

SPEAKER_02 40:01

Well, that will never happen.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

Yeah, that never happened, but I like it. I guess you can see where you didn't know that. He worked, he worked hard.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

Um, I do feel as though someone, because I grew up watching just TNG. That's all I ever saw. Next generation. So I got I wrote that Star Trek lore works in reverse because I feel right at home watching this. The early Star Trek, like the original Star Trek. I'd never really seen any of them, just clips and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

Was this the first one you've seen all the way through? Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 40:25

Oh, that's it. But I felt like I knew every like I just felt I felt like I was immersed.

SPEAKER_00 40:32

So when you say the lore works in reverse, are you just saying continuity is really well kept kind of thing?

SPEAKER_02 40:37

Well, just because what I watched was much, much further into the future. But maybe it's because we've been watching the one that's out now where it's a prequel to the original.

SPEAKER_00 40:45

But yeah, it just it's really Well, speaking of that, I mean it would back up a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 40:50

It felt like a nice warm TV blanket.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

The intro. Do you mind if we talk about the intro for a second? First of all, what do you think about the intro? Great, fantastic. The the the singer, um let me see, Alexander Courage. I know you guys can't hear me, sorry. Talk about the uh talk about the theme song real quick.

SPEAKER_02 41:10

Oh, okay. What did you I don't know what to say about it? It's the same, right?

SPEAKER_00 41:14

I was trying to look at the the singer's name, the girl who did the it's it's they they used all sorts of instruments on it. They used a uh I can't remember what it's called. It's like a little two antennae, two antennae that uh make that tremello kind of effect. It's got a it's got a tremolo? Yeah, like tremelo. Tremello Anthony. Um and anyways, she wasn't in the uh forget, forget, I can't even think of her name, so I'm gonna tell her history. But Alexander Courage wrote that song. Wrote that composition. Well, I guess well, no, back to okay, song versus composition. Here's the funny thing Gene Roddenberry, he the creator of Star Trek, he wrote lyrics for that theme song.

SPEAKER_02 42:03

But they never used them?

SPEAKER_00 42:04

So they never used them. But the reason he wrote them was because he didn't he he said he didn't know how much royalty royalties he was gonna get on Star Trek, so he wanted to basically max his.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

I also wrote the song.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

So he wrote lyrics for it so that he would get writing credit for it. And Alexander Courage didn't know. He's he thought he wrote the whole, you know, he did write the whole thing, but Rodderberry literally just wrote lyrics to get royalties.

SPEAKER_02 42:28

That's great. Good job, Gene. Always tussler.

SPEAKER_00 42:31

It's a little dirty, bro.

SPEAKER_02 42:32

You never know when they're gonna drop a box.

SPEAKER_00 42:33

But I thought what was cool was that Strange New Worlds, you made me think of it when you said the Strange New Worlds, which is the I guess is that the newest Star Trek?

SPEAKER_02 42:41

There's another one out too, but I think it's not doing great. Yeah, I'd I'd I'd like the Academy, Star Trek Academy or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 42:48

But Strange New Worlds kind of uses that same theme song.

SPEAKER_02 42:52

Yeah, it feels like that.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

Yeah, they had a negative.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

I also wrote, speaking of the intro, I also wrote Color Me Impressed with special effects. Because even though they're like not clearly like like computerized, they look pretty good. Like this when you're watching the spaceship fly through the air and like in the intro? Yeah, and then subsequently through the whole show.

SPEAKER_00 43:14

Well, for the rest of the show, that was actually after that was CGI added to it.

SPEAKER_02 43:18

In 1967, the original one that came out?

SPEAKER_00 43:21

What we watched was not in the I don't think it was in the original. What?

SPEAKER_02 43:25

Well like when they would show the space station where they Yeah, they didn't.

SPEAKER_00 43:28

That was that was like a you remember when um when they did like a re-release of Star Wars? I'm gonna be able to do that. And they had like a little flying uh my microphone on the ground. So you thought that was you thought that was filming.

SPEAKER_02 43:41

That's right, wrote a really good job.

SPEAKER_00 43:42

That was filmed in space.

SPEAKER_02 43:44

I basically thought that was filmed in space.

SPEAKER_00 43:45

No, I'm I'm I'm I'm 90% sure that was CGI done afterward for like a Blu-ray or DVD release.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

Well, never mind, delete.

SPEAKER_00 43:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:53

Uh but I oh but I will say on the same similar theme, Spock's ears were seamless. They did not look like Costume ears, they looked great.

SPEAKER_00 44:02

They always did a good job with his ears.

SPEAKER_02 44:04

They did a really good job with his ears. I need to see his ears, his ears on that show next to the ears of Spock on the current show.

SPEAKER_00 44:12

On Strange New Worlds.

SPEAKER_02 44:14

I need that. How can we make that happen?

SPEAKER_00 44:18

We could probably uh I don't think it's no. It's not possible. Maybe maybe uh at our concert.

SPEAKER_02 44:25

Uh what's Leonard Dima gonna do there? Whatever he wants. Yeah, whatever. Whatever he wants.

SPEAKER_00 44:32

He'll write in on you know what? He can write in on uh oh um a treble? I'm just yeah, sure, why not?

SPEAKER_02 44:42

Alright, so then I guess we should get on with the plot.

SPEAKER_00 44:44

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 44:46

So they have they're they're they're near a space station where people are taking shore leave, but they're not going to shore.

SPEAKER_00 44:53

Right. Right, they're going to uh space station. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:57

And so there's like a bar there. And the women's outfits. Sorry, I know I'm not getting on with the plot, but let's get on with the plot. I mean, they basically look like Playboy costumes.

SPEAKER_00 45:09

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

They were wearing like their front cover was just like an apron. Yeah, with a sort of like a with just the straps, just strapped, just like two inches of strap that went up and like a halter colour. Oh, on both sides.

SPEAKER_00 45:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:23

And then the back, it was like open in the back, so it was like gaping, and it was unbelievably short. It was way worse than just what the regular women wear.

SPEAKER_00 45:33

Yeah, open in the back and gaping. That's kind of a little different.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

Are we gonna get our rating change?

SPEAKER_00 45:38

Talking about on the internet. That's something a little different on the internet.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

It's not a family-friendly podcast anymore. Anyway, that was amazing. So then they find out that they have to go.

SPEAKER_00 45:49

But they did they they of course had a lot of fun with that in the Deep Space Nine. Yes. Like they because you kind of see them, they're sort of featured in the background a little bit, the waitresses. Yeah, they're not gonna be able to do it. And then they love to leave them in there. They just go full glory straight on.

SPEAKER_02 46:03

Staring at them and yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:04

Yeah, with Deep Space Nine.

SPEAKER_02 46:06

So in the original one, Trouble with Tribbles, they go down there to to have their shore leave, but they also have to help guard the grain because the quadratic. Because the wharfs are there.

SPEAKER_00 46:20

The Klingons. The Klingons are. Or or you could say the Klingons.

SPEAKER_02 46:23

The Klingons.

SPEAKER_00 46:24

Half of them say Klingons.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

And some of them are saying Klingons. Yeah. And some saying And they're just regular white people with no makeup on, no weird forehead prosthetics. They're like skinny regular dudes.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

They just look like space grease balls. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 46:40

They look like the T birds from uh Greece. Is that what they're called? The T-birds?

SPEAKER_00 46:45

Is it I don't.

SPEAKER_02 46:46

The pink ladies and the T birds, I think. Is it? They seen Grease Lightning Go Grease. It looks like they're about to break into a round of that.

SPEAKER_00 46:55

Yeah, with uh what's his face from uh Taxi?

SPEAKER_02 46:57

Kanicki?

SPEAKER_00 46:58

Yeah. Alec. Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

So I was like, why don't the Klingons look like Klingons? And you're like, well, that'll we'll get to that.

SPEAKER_00 47:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 47:06

Sort of. Yeah, and you said that.

SPEAKER_00 47:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:08

So anyway, they have to guard the grain, but they're all there too, having their shore leave, and of course, Captain Kirk is just posturing and just saying. The scientist? The scientist?

SPEAKER_00 47:24

The guy who's like the the the administrator who's sort of in charge of the thing.

SPEAKER_02 47:28

Oh, who comes in and says you have to do this?

SPEAKER_00 47:30

There's so much crap to that dude.

SPEAKER_02 47:32

He's a subordinate. Like Kirk is the subordinate, right?

SPEAKER_00 47:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 47:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:37

But he's just blatantly disrespectful to him the entire time.

SPEAKER_02 47:41

That's his thing.

SPEAKER_00 47:42

I I uh I wrote down a I think I took a couple quotes. But I uh keep talking.

SPEAKER_02 47:50

So yeah, so they um they have to guard the grain because they're worried. Are they worried the Klingons are gonna steal it? Why are they guarding it?

SPEAKER_00 47:58

I don't remember exactly. They explained it.

SPEAKER_02 48:01

They needed to basically save a civilization, though.

SPEAKER_00 48:04

Yes. Because if the grain gets it was determined to be whatever, whatever the reason was, is what they were stated. Yeah, it was determined to be pretty critical because Kirk was all fired up that he had to basically felt like this was beneath beneath the uh enterprise to do like escort and security.

SPEAKER_02 48:21

He sends some of his people down to have Shorelave slash guard the Klingons to kind of watch out for the Klingons. And they go to the bar and there's this unbelievably ridiculous salesperson there. What is his name?

SPEAKER_00 48:37

Cyrino Jones. Syrano Jones.

SPEAKER_03 48:39

He was so great.

SPEAKER_02 48:40

Selling tribles. And they just look like they look like if you went to the fabric store and bought a roll of faux fur. Remember when I made that troll costume for Caroline and I sewed faux fur on her vest and stuff?

SPEAKER_03 48:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:56

It just looks like they took faux fur fabric where only one side has fur on it, and just like wadded it up. They don't make them look consistent, they don't make them look alive.

SPEAKER_00 49:06

They well, they actually use carpet scraps.

SPEAKER_02 49:09

Okay, well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:10

They spend like 350 bucks on the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 49:12

Well, you can tell.

SPEAKER_00 49:14

Well, it's funny because I was talking to my mom and dad and dad about it actually. Because my dad actually has seen Star Trek, he just does not like it. But um, they both agreed that people thought that was super cool.

SPEAKER_02 49:27

They thought it looked real.

SPEAKER_00 49:29

Yeah, they whatever real is for 67, they thought it was.

SPEAKER_02 49:33

So basically, slowly these triples are repopulating. Well, not slowly, they don't realize how fast they are repopulating. And reproducing, rather.

SPEAKER_00 49:42

And eventually they are on the Enterprise, they're all over the space station, and Yeah, they reproduce uh in in uh Bones' words, they're he uses the word bisexual. But I Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:58

But that's not they were like more like they could change their sex.

SPEAKER_00 50:02

Right, but it's what it's one of those cool examples where language kind of needs something different. It's the I can't remember.

SPEAKER_02 50:07

Oh, it has both parts inside one body. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:13

But it's not but he's the word bisexual in the case.

SPEAKER_02 50:15

So they start just being oh, so they're just having Did you find any Kirk quotes?

SPEAKER_00 50:19

Oh, he's he says, uh, in dealing with Barris, that's the guy's name. He says, uh now if you'll excuse me, Kirk says to Barris. On the contrary, sir, oh he says, on the contrary, sir, I think of this project as very important. It's you I take lightly. Yeah. But it's like Barris is kind of a pompous jerk.

SPEAKER_02 50:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:35

But he's not like He's not that bad.

SPEAKER_02 50:38

He's just They don't do a lot of character development. No, but Kirk's just riding it.

SPEAKER_00 50:43

And the guy he' Kirk's like, or Barris is like, I can't have a swarm of Klingons in the station. He's like, I are oh, I'm sorry. Is uh 12 Klingons constitutes a storm.

SPEAKER_02 50:55

And then they say that again in the Deep Space Nine because they're standing behind Kirk when he says it. Um but anyway He's such an ass. They uh How do they discover the grain is missing? Like, why do they why does he even open the thing up in all those I want to call them Furbies, all those tribles fall out all over him?

SPEAKER_00 51:16

Well, I know the reason I don't. I can't remember. I can't I can't remember what.

SPEAKER_02 51:21

Well then anyway, at the end of the episode, they figure out that the tribbles have gotten in and eaten all of the grain, but then it makes them go inert and they die.

SPEAKER_03 51:29

Right.

SPEAKER_02 51:29

And but they figure out that it was the Klingons who there's like a double agent working with the scientist who wanted him to protect the grain. See, I don't even remember how. So the reveal are you talking about the reveal?

SPEAKER_00 51:41

How they found out? So uh the triples start freaking out around the grain. The triples are so there's all this you could tell who the triples like in the times that the triples are happy because they just coo and purr. And even like the incidental music does. Yeah, like does like somebody's purring, making their violin purr. Yeah. Yes. You know, Tremello. But it's a little tremelo Anthony.

SPEAKER_02 52:06

Uh man, that makes me hungry.

SPEAKER_00 52:09

For what?

SPEAKER_02 52:10

Carmelo candy bars.

SPEAKER_00 52:12

Oh. Oh, okay. Carmelo is good. Makes me hungry for um, you know, I was never a big Carmelo Anthony fan. I think he's a little overrated. Hope he doesn't listen to this.

SPEAKER_02 52:22

Is he dead?

SPEAKER_00 52:23

No.

SPEAKER_02 52:25

Who is he?

SPEAKER_00 52:26

He's a basketball player.

SPEAKER_02 52:27

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 52:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:28

Do you think he listens to a lot of podcasts?

SPEAKER_00 52:30

Yeah, but he does.

SPEAKER_02 52:31

A lot of mom and pop podcasts.

SPEAKER_00 52:33

Yeah, a lot of a lot of uh standing in line podcasts specifically. I think we're we probably we're probably one of the top.

SPEAKER_02 52:39

Top standing in line podcasts? I would think so. I think we're the number one standing in line podcast.

SPEAKER_00 52:43

That's a big claim. I'd yeah, so he so the but the the tribles, they what do they do? They they what's the noise they scream or something around the Klingon. Yeah, they get real mad. They uh do they growl?

SPEAKER_02 52:59

Yeah, they just act they don't act nice.

SPEAKER_00 53:01

They shake violently.

SPEAKER_02 53:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:03

And so anytime they're around a Klingon, because the Klingons had a a war, so to speak, with the Tribbles.

SPEAKER_02 53:10

Oh yeah, but we didn't know any of that.

SPEAKER_00 53:13

No, not really. I think I can't remember if they mentioned something very s briefly or not. But b but basically, so we then you find out that Darwin, uh the bat the double agent. The double agent is a Klingon. And of course, had they been using Klingons prosthetics post Wharf Klingons. Wharf Wharf Klingons or Christopher Lloyd Klingons or whatever, you would have. Did you ever see that one? Yeah. Well, you should watch that. Do you ever watch any of the movies? Uh, forget it. Christopher Lloyd plays a Klingon.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

That's why he's I figured that out.

SPEAKER_00 53:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:49

Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 53:50

It would have been, anyways, it would have been really obvious. It would have kind of blown blown the surprise that Darwin is a uh a Klingon double agent. But then they find out, yeah, that's that's who poisoned the grain supply.

SPEAKER_02 54:05

Oh, that's what made the triple sick.

SPEAKER_00 54:07

That's what made the triple sick.

SPEAKER_02 54:08

Oh, it wasn't that that grain.

SPEAKER_00 54:09

So the triples will reproduce due to their bisexual bisexual uh capabilities, they will reproduce as long as they have food, they will keep they're basically um they are Okay, so I forgot about born pregnant, like bones even kind of joking around, but I think that actually they actually kind of are. There actually is, I saw there's an animal, I can't remember what it is, that is essentially born pregnant. It's really uh it's anyway, I forget it. Oh, an aphid.

SPEAKER_02 54:37

Aphids are so anyway, I I think I missed the connection. The Klingons poison the grain. The grains killed the tribles, but the tribles are what revealed that he was a Klingon, and that's why the Tribbles mattered at all.

SPEAKER_00 54:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 54:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 54:52

So then, anything else to say about that episode? Well about the insults to the captain versus the ship.

SPEAKER_00 54:58

Oh, yeah, we can't talk, we cannot talk about the fight. Go for it. Scotty.

SPEAKER_02 55:01

The Scott the fight.

SPEAKER_00 55:02

The fight was, I mean, pretty epic.

SPEAKER_02 55:06

Um you talk about it. You love violence.

SPEAKER_00 55:08

I do. It's true.

SPEAKER_02 55:09

To quote your mom, I didn't know uh Rob loved violence.

SPEAKER_00 55:15

Why she didn't know that. I drew so many pictures of the most screwing.

SPEAKER_02 55:19

I know I told your sister that she was like, what about that book where he like made an entire book or like the Contra book that you hear?

SPEAKER_00 55:25

Yeah, Contra Contra 2. This is before Contra Super C actually came out, uh, not to brag.

SPEAKER_02 55:30

Um maybe we'll do a read-al out of that sometime on the channel.

SPEAKER_00 55:32

Oh, that'd be something.

SPEAKER_02 55:33

For 2,000 subscribers. Subscribers. 2,000 subscribers.

SPEAKER_00 55:36

All the dudes are jacked, they don't have noses. Do they have like giant varicose fire hose veins everywhere? Um okay. So yeah, there was a uh the Klingons are talking crap. This isn't what halfway through back after the episode, yeah. And Scotty and Chekhov, and I don't remember who else is at the table, but they're trying the the Klingons are trying to get them get them fired. So they're talking all this crap about how about Kirk and they're they're making fun of Captain Kirk.

SPEAKER_02 56:06

He said he has a God complex. Yeah, I mean, fair.

SPEAKER_00 56:09

Yeah, totally does. And he's 17 time violations. I don't know how many at this point, but I love that. Um anyways, he's Scotty's trying to he's trying to keep their cool, like, okay, guys, let's don't let it get.

SPEAKER_02 56:24

Yeah, Chekhov's getting upset. He wants to defend his captain.

SPEAKER_00 56:26

Yeah. And then the cling the clinging.

SPEAKER_02 56:30

The clinging.

SPEAKER_00 56:31

Not in cling and knee but in uh in English. English. Klinganye, by the way. I didn't know that. I always said they speak Klingon, but they in this they said they speak Klingon E. Klingon E. So knew. Okay, so and uh that was clinging, not clinging-nees, right?

SPEAKER_02 56:46

Yes, there were no zzz at the end.

SPEAKER_00 56:48

So the clingon in English says uh I don't remember exactly what he says, but he talks about the enterprise being a trash. Oh, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't pull trash, it is trash, or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 57:02

It doesn't haul trash, yeah. It is trash.

SPEAKER_00 57:04

And Scotty gets up, he has kind of does a slow turnaround sort of western.

SPEAKER_02 57:10

And then like the silliest fight.

SPEAKER_00 57:11

Yeah, and then and then clocks this dude. Now I gotta say, you know I'm a stickler for Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

Did he have a good fist?

SPEAKER_00 57:19

No. Well, a fist maybe, but he when he threw his punch, yeah. When he threw his punch.

SPEAKER_02 57:24

His weight and arms were opposite is what they should be.

SPEAKER_00 57:28

Kind of, you know, all the power from the stuff.

SPEAKER_02 57:30

Maybe he was drunk from all those waitresses. No, he wasn't drunk. He but he looked to me like he was bigger.

SPEAKER_00 57:36

Scotty?

SPEAKER_02 57:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:38

Scotty was was kind of a bigger guy. Running through people.

SPEAKER_02 57:41

But then they were fighting these like little teenage-looking guys.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

The the Klingans?

SPEAKER_02 57:46

The Klingans were just throwing people everywhere. Like, this is not believable. We're supposed to believe they're these great warriors. I've like grew up with Wharf, so I could not, I could just couldn't buy it.

SPEAKER_00 57:55

Well, the thing is though, like, I've always been a little disappointed in in Klingon's um, they're always letting their tempers get about.

SPEAKER_02 58:04

They get their emotion, they let their emotions get about.

SPEAKER_00 58:06

Whorf gets his butt kicked a lot in next generation.

SPEAKER_02 58:09

Poor Worf.

SPEAKER_00 58:10

I mean, he he certainly holds his own on just as many times.

SPEAKER_02 58:12

Do you think Michael Dorn is listening to this?

SPEAKER_00 58:15

I hope so.

SPEAKER_02 58:16

How should we be standing if he is? Um Proudly?

SPEAKER_00 58:20

I like this. I don't know. I wish I had Wharf's teeth, like the first two seasons to he does tend to like mm like look different. He's in Deep Space Nine, you see him as just a regular Michael Dorn. Oh, does he get like a there's an episode where so Cisco, I'm getting way off topic. Cisco's a huge baseball fan.

SPEAKER_02 58:40

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 58:40

And there's an episode where I think they go back in time to like actual America, like 30s America or something.

SPEAKER_02 58:46

Oh, to play baseball?

SPEAKER_00 58:47

And Michael Dorn's a baseball player. So he comes in as like just a regular guy. He's like a regular guy.

SPEAKER_02 58:52

Yeah, he's a handsome guy. Yeah, I know I've seen him.

SPEAKER_00 58:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:55

Yeah. Some of the drive-thru at McDonald's on that one show.

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SPEAKER_00 58:59

Oh, uh family guy? Family guy.

SPEAKER_02 59:05

You'll get nothing and you'll like it. Um, all right, so then in Deep Space Nine, they're I don't know what they're doing.

SPEAKER_00 59:13

Oh, there is one more thing I want to say.

SPEAKER_02 59:14

Oh, yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 59:15

The when when he is buried by the triples, and they're falling out.

SPEAKER_02 59:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:20

And he's just sitting there like lounging and you know, just kind of somebody. So one of the reasons, one of the reasons, it looks so ridiculous. There are obvious reasons. One of them's William Chandler. Who I love.

SPEAKER_02 59:37

He's basically laying in a pile of stuffed animals.

SPEAKER_00 59:40

He just looks so bothered. Oh bother. Right. And but these trebles just keep falling on them. Well, so that took a lot. That took eight takes, apparently. So that you had to go through all that crap.

SPEAKER_02 59:51

I had to pick them back up all that many times.

SPEAKER_00 59:53

And the the folks inside the the storage container, storage container.

SPEAKER_02 59:59

Well, we didn't say anything about that.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:01

Yeah, well, we'll we'll bring it up in Deep Space Nine because they kind of not know it. So when he's they're in the storage container, all the trebles are just kind of dropping. Yeah. There's a disconnect in communication between like the crew who's in there making those fall up. They don't know that they're that they should stop. They should stop falling out. So they just keep watching trebles at Kirks at Shatter's head.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:21

That's so great because then in Deep Space Nine, they're in the compartment throwing them over their head while they're looking. Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:28

They really like how much detail how much detail they spend on this.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:33

So then Deep Space Nine, it opens on Cisco getting interviewed by the time police.

unknown 1:00:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:39

What do they call it?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:41

Gosh, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:42

Uh the What do they call it in Loki? The time continuum?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:48

I don't know, but I love that show. I love that show.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:51

Uh anyway, he's getting interviewed because they they uh had a time event where they got way way back in time. And he has to tell them what they did in order to justify like that he didn't create like an alternate timeline. And so basically they go back in time. But how do they who sent them the message that they needed to apprehend that double agent from the 60s? How do they know that's what their mission was?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:16

I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:18

They got that little sphere thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:19

There's an orb, uh, Bajorn orb. So Kira, who's uh on the show, she's the pregnant one. Oh, okay. Which by the way, she was pregnant in real life with Bashir, the guy who played Bashir, uh Alexander with his baby. In the show It was Michael Dorn. She's like a surge. No, but actually Michael Dorn gets with Wharf gets with Dax. Dax is the uh she's the one, she's the trill, she's the one who who I said Cisco calls old man sometimes. Oh, because she's not actually that woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, that's a whole thing. Michael Dorn hooks up with uh Michael Dorn had some stuff. He likes Burnett's too. Yeah. He likes uh Troy and Deanna. Who doesn't, right? But anyways, what wait, what what were we what were we talking about?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:16

About how they got the their mission when they went back in time.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:19

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:20

The pregnant lady, you said something about her.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:23

Oh, Kira, yeah, she's uh she's a baj she's Bajoran.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:26

Oh, and she's she was like decoding the message.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:28

It's like a space station that's that's uh very close to Bajor. And Bajor was having this war with the Kardashians. Do you remember the Kardashians? Kardashians, I think it's so Kardashians, Kardashians.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:41

That's stupid.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:43

The Kardashians are Do you know who they are?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:47

They got the big necks, they're super featured in Deep Space Nine. Leslie hasn't really seen Deep Space Nine.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:52

No, she hasn't.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:53

So they're very featured in Deep Space Nine, and I don't think they're are they involved in this episode? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:00

They are they the ones that send the orb.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:01

But it's a Bajoran time orb.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:04

Oh, and that's what sends them.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:05

And that I don't We don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:08

We shouldn't keep just saying that. Well, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:10

Okay. Dar Darwin. Yes. They Darwin is on Deep Space Nine.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:16

I believe. And he's talking to uh he's I think he's talking to Cisco. This is why we normally Oh, right. We wanted to actually do this episode the day after. It's crazy how much you forget after like four days.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:27

I never forget anything.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:28

Okay. Anyways, he's talking Darvin is talking to this again, the same actor, the double agent Klingon. Um he's talking to uh to Cisco and and and and friends, and he gets the time orb and he goes back, and they somehow track that he went. Okay. So they go back with him in the Defiant. Defiant's like the the ship in D Space Nine.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:52

I gotcha, I gotcha. Uh okay, so then they go back, so then they find out that they're there with like the original Enterprise, and they're all a little starstruck.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:59

Yes, they're all huge photos.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:01

Cisco's like, we can't talk to them, we can't interact with them. But they all so they all beam aboard in their wearing time appropriate period costumes. Period costumes.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:12

Period costumes. All like baby lights.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:16

And yeah. SH1s. Um so anyway, into like the what's the girl's name? Div Dax. Dax.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:25

She's wearing like a super short skirt.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:28

Yeah, and she's like, and the women dress differently. Because there's what do they say? The the something something they make a comment on how things are different. Yeah, yeah. And the women dress different too.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:38

Dress uh very differently or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:40

Small short, smaller.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:41

The women uh it's something like that. So they definitely are fully embracing the ridiculous fashion that they had the women in in the 60s.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:49

Um, and so they go on and then they go to that bar, and you basically watch like what we just watched, you watch it again, but they're in the scene this time, as in the background.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:01

And Odo, and now Odo is the one who's got like the uncanny uncanny valley face who you were just super creeped out by.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:07

Yes. Yeah, he's super weird looking.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:10

Yeah, so Odo is a founder, I think that's his race. And he could he's a shapeshifter, he's a changeling. But he was Odo's backstory basically, he was shipped off when he was an infant, him and like a hundred other changelings, and they had uh they were shipped off by the founders, so they didn't they weren't raised by the founders. Okay, they were kind of on their own. So that's why he can't quite he can sort of turn into anything almost, but he can't quite get fixed.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:37

Just enough to make you feel weird.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:38

Yeah, but he's gotta like turn into like liquid every now and then, like every 16 hours or something, otherwise he dies. Uh that's his weakness. But other than that, he's super powerful.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:48

Cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:49

But yeah, so Odo and Wharf were both wearing Serena O'Jones puff like bubble goose.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:56

Oh my gosh, hilarious outfits.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:58

It's like a puff. Pockets. Cargo jacket looking.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:02

Vest, apron, pants.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:04

Made of somehow made of trash and camouflage. But he also had like a almost like a osh kosh pagash sort of striped undercoat.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:15

Oh yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:16

And the boots and the belt buckle.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:18

They made him they like made a big deal out of putting like their pointy boots on. So silly. You're gonna have to gain some weight first. That was part of his.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:28

Hello, and I love his the way he talks.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:30

He's all he's super uh positive and goofy.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:33

That was the he's the strangest that poor actor, he uh killed himself.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:38

Oh no, why?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:39

Uh back problems. Lumbago.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:42

Ugh. Poor old guy. Poor Sereno Jones.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:46

This is this is quite a bit later.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:47

Oh good. But he lived a long time with that.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:53

Don't bring tribles. I love that they were making they made Odo and Wharf dressed that way.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:57

Yeah. But so anyway, so they're trying to uh track down. They end up getting involved in the fight.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:04

I don't know why I said butt and then dick of sort of water. I just want to say butt.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:07

Uh so they end up getting involved in that bar fight.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:11

Yeah, well, before any of that happened, I mean they were there was a number of exchanges, like, first of all, they're screwing around with their communicators.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:18

Yes. They don't know how to use them. They're tip touchers.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:21

He's like, oh yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:22

They don't know how to make the lift work.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:24

Yeah, and then like Bashir's uh possibly, they didn't go anywhere with this, I don't think.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:30

Is he like try to hook up with someone in the elevator? Oh yeah, his grandmother. We talk about how she could be.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:37

Yes. And he I love the the exchange between uh throughout the whole series, the exchanges between um uh Miles O'Brien and uh Dr.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:47

I wish I was more familiar with the characters' names because I don't quite know.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:51

Uh he's the one who he was in Next Generation.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:54

As well as Wharf.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:55

Oh, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:56

He's the engineer, he's kind of an Irish guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:58

I know who you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:59

Um, I know what it was. Uh Kira, the Bajoran, is pregnant with Kiko, his wife's baby, and for some reason.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:07

She's surrogacy?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:08

Yeah, I don't remember why she couldn't deliver her, but that's that's that that was the plot armor they kind of put together for the So anyway, so then they're like in the can I talk about the bar fight for or did you want other things to talk about?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:22

There was just that whole scene where they were The way they assimilate themselves into the original culture is just great.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:30

Well, they're working on the uh panel and the guy stops them and he's like, hey, I Yeah, I thought I was sent up here to do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:34

They're like, Oh, because they can't figure it out anyway, so like, yeah, you go ahead and do it. And then they leave. Yeah. And they turn off the lights in the hallway accidentally.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:44

It's just stupid, stupid stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:46

But my favorite, but now tell us about the Klingons.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:49

So the Klingons.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:50

They walk up and they're like, Those are Klingons?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:53

Oh yeah, and Wharfs and they all they look they look at Wharf and he's just like we don't speak of this.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:59

We don't speak of this. So this represents like this something else. This is from the past, and and we don't speak of this.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:05

It's it's tr it's purely like the way it so there actually is some backstory to it that they've sort of like retroactively applied.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:15

Created, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:15

Like the whole reason they just made decided to make Klingons look different way cooler and different.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:21

When did they when did they start looking like that? What came out after the original Star Trek?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:25

I'm gonna say uh I'm gonna say it was in and this is a guess, but I'm gonna guess Star Trek III.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:34

A m a movie?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:35

When they first made debuted the new movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:37

Yeah, so Wrath of Khan was the second one. I think Star Trek III was the one with Christopher Lloyd. That might have been the first time they Klingons look like Klingons that we know of. That's my guess.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:46

The one from Yeah Klon She's like she's like a descendant of Khan.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:52

Yes, uh, what's her face from Stranger Worlds. Stranger Worlds.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:55

Sorry guys, sorry, sorry, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:56

Yeah, yeah. No, it's alright. It's a it's a it's a big universe.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:58

It's a big world out there.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:00

It's a big quadrant.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:01

So anyway, they just the whole plot line just plays out again about the tribles and the grain and all that stuff. And so like Rob said when the when all the tribles were falling on Kirk, Captain Kirk, and it's it's not wasn't meant to be like that. They made it look like they were trying to find a b a bomb that had been planted in one of the tribles' bodies. So they're in there with all those tribles above the hatch where they had all fallen on, and they're throwing, they're looking at them and throwing them, and they're like, that's we're assuming that that's what was actually falling on Kirk originally.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:31

Well, so I think we kind of got into this, but then we had to pay attention to the show. Um that how would that be? Because they weren't there.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:40

But they were there. So how do we know?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:42

But they weren't. They actually went back into the timeline.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:48

But it had already happened. They were trying to do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:50

But then why then they were just why do you think what I said was funny and cute?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:55

Because I don't think so. I do while I do think that was uh a sh kind of like a s shout-out to it, and like that was You don't think that's why they were falling on him in the first time. No. No. I think they were just helping him. I don't think we were like that. I don't think we were meant to think that Cisco was always there the whole time. What what? Uh uh in the first one. In the in the original. I I think they were just in there and they were.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:27

Well, I think it.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:30

Whatever you were meant to think, I'll think the opposite.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:32

They're they act back to the the whole uh Klingon difference. They they do kind of, sort of try to explain it in a in a did you ever watch any of The Enterprise? No.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:43

Or it's I think it's just I've really only ever watched Next Generation and all the new stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:46

Scott Bacchula one, Enterprise. They have an episode where they sort of go into they try to kind of explain the Klingon virus and why they're different.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:55

Did he hope that every leap was there?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:57

That's about the furthest I think they ever went into it on the shows. What?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:01

Did he hope that every leap was the leap that was gonna take a moment?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:08

Um But no, I don't think well That's fine. Right in. Uh when you could.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:14

Yeah, write in and let me know that it's okay for me to have my own theory. And then Rob can stop talking about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:19

I didn't say that it wasn't okay for you to have your own theory.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:21

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:22

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:23

So what else about it though?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:25

What time how much time do we have?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:26

Well, we've been talking for over an hour.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:29

Okay. Cool. Um it's been another one. Let me see what else I wrote.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:33

If I wrote anything else that really needed to be said.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:37

Um Yeah, well, there's a pretty big one. Uh one is that so Cisco's going on and on and on about Oh, women wore less.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:47

That's what it was.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:48

Women wore less, that's what it was. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:50

And then I wrote Miles with several explanation points. Miles was Miles O'Brien. And who was that? Oh, he was the one that I wrote. Oh, he's in this show too.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:00

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:02

Sorry, everybody. Oh, I did write, I think Rick and Morty needs a triple episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:06

Oh, that'd be great.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:08

So if you're listening, Dan Justin.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:11

Harmon. Justin. No more Justin.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:14

Okay, Dan Harmon. If you're listening, can you please do a triples episode of Rick and Morty?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:18

That'd be great. It'd be great if you know what would be really cool, is if Rick and Morty go back to the Deep Space Nine folks on top of the third layer.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:29

I need that.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:29

That'd be sweet.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:31

I cannot die until that happens.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:33

That'd be so good.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:33

Come on, Dan. Do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:36

Alright, so here's what it is. I'll make a so I could maybe I'll have a sound bite. What is the plot? So it's it's Rick and Morty go on to the iteration of Cisco and Friends.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:52

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:52

From Deep Space Nine on the 67 episode of Trouble with Tribbles.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:58

Original Star Trek. So it's like a triple inception kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:02

Yes, it's inception.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:04

That'd be sick.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:05

We gotta. Come on.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:06

Come on, Dan.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:07

Come on, Danny.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:08

Send us straight to the top, guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:09

Okay. Um there another thing was the Yeah, Cisco, the very end. Cisco goes back.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:17

And I didn't get it. Talks to her.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:20

What didn't you get?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:21

Oh, go ahead. No, what are you doing? I'm thinking of something different.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:23

Go ahead and finish this. Cisco goes, it's kind of like a um because the time police or whatever they're time cops.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:30

Time investigators.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:31

I love those guys, by the way. They're just so cheesy. Yeah. They always play, both those dudes always could have played other characters like that before. One of them was in the X-Files. I think they were actually kind of trying to sort of play. Like almost X-Files. Ah, like those cheesier versions. Yeah. They don't like time puns, but they still use them with the same ridiculous. Anyways, they were they were saying, and then so then you left after they fixed the whole thing, which by the way, a tribble exploding in space was pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:00

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. That was great.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:03

It was so absurd. They're sort of like hamster.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:05

They were a little hamster adjacent. Yes. Guinea pig adjacent.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:08

But it was almost like uh, you know, yesterday's Enterprise where it kept exploding. They almost went for that same sort of shot, but it was a stupid triple.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:14

Yeah, it was so dumb.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:16

By the way, I'm sorry, I keep thinking of things. I read that uh what's his name? Uh uh uh Robert Heinlein. Do you know who that is? No. He wrote like Puppet Masters, Starship Troopers, like an old 50s sci-fi writer.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:28

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:29

He wrote a book that, man, it looks a lot like Tribbles. They said that they didn't they said it was an independent thought that they didn't know about triples. But Heinlein um said they could use it. Like they did discover about part of the way through. He said they could use it as long as he could have an autographed copy of the script or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:50

Oh did they give him one?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:51

I think so. That's they better have it. I think that's what I read. I'm not I'm not looking off my my notes here. I don't even think I have any message.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:58

So anyway, in the time please say, but you left, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:01

Yeah, he left, right? And he said, Well, there was one thing, one more thing I I did. And then they show him on the bridge.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:09

And talking to Kirk and just saying how much it was a pleasure to work to work under him. And I love how first of all, I just love that scene. It's totally out of character. It would never happen because Cisco's super professional. Although he does have the you know, they did it for us. Yes. Right. They they they we had to have that scene. Yeah. Um, it was really well done. I love though that so that was the second time that Cisco was on the bridge. He was on there with Dax too. And I love that Kirk is so unaware that he doesn't know who's on the bridge.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:44

Who's on his bridge? I was wondering if, like, is that a thing?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:47

I was like, is that a plot issue, or is that or who what is he's just that big of another?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:53

Or just has or they just had a big turnover all the time.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:56

I'm sure though, if you're on a bridge of a uh Starf uh, you know, Starfleet.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:00

Uh you know that Patrick Stewart knew who all was on his bridge.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:04

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:05

I could tell you everyone on his bridge.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:08

You sure can. Depends on the season.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:10

Hey. Oh, they're making fun of me for not.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:12

No, I'm just saying they work people in.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:14

Right, that's true. So there was always a few throwaway characters that had to die like in a battle scene.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:19

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:20

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:20

Get electrocuted through the panels.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:22

Yes. That's I think the Chekhov had to show them how to get properly electrocuted when you're in a fight and the computer blows up for some reason. Stay away from computers. If you're ever in a space, if you ever had a fight, yeah, just yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:35

Any fight, just practice now for space fight.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:37

Yeah, any fight at all.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:38

Practice now for space fight.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:39

Fencing, stay away from jujitsu. Don't let computers on the mat. So he's talking to Kirk, and that's a great scene. And it's uh, but then the the the time cops are like, yeah, I probably would have done it too.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:55

Well, I thought you were gonna say I didn't catch the triples making it onto the D Space Nine chip.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:00

Oh gosh. That's yeah, again, I love that they did it. It's so absurd though.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:05

Yeah, because now what are they gonna do with it?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:07

Odo would have never brought wasn't it Oda who brought one back?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:09

I don't remember. I say I didn't even know that someone brought one.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:12

Never have brought one on like it just it wouldn't have happened. And then it's like, okay, now we've got to clean up, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:18

Now we got a big method.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:19

It's actually a really huge issue.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:21

And it was gonna take uh Syrano Jones Jones uh what?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:25

Three years.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:26

Seventeen years.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:27

Oh yeah, to clean up.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:28

Like he's like three years short of his 20 years.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:31

He was like, good.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:35

I didn't know what he was saying. I love how Dax and Spock both did the same math at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:38

Yeah, that was fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:39

Um they also there's something else I thought about with the there's so much there's so much. They just it's it's everything about both episodes by the well, you can't have one with you can't have deep space nine without the other. But the original is just so charming.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:55

Do you think they were just like the deep space nine where people were like, that tribles episode. We we gotta get in on some of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:00

I don't know. I would love to know how they decided to do it. I know they they were definitely thinking we gotta we gotta have a way to we need to do an homage episode. So they got I don't remember there w there is a story behind it, I just don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:14

Maybe if you guys know it, or if uh, you know, one of you actors are maybe a gaff person, gaff operator.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:22

GAF operator, a best boy, perhaps.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:24

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SPEAKER_00 1:19:34

I love the uh the yeah, if we we'll we'll watch more Star Trek episodes and we can talk about like bones and and and Spox relationship.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:43

They're so cute.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:44

I love the little banter between all those. Like they have some good there's some episodes where they, despite always being in each other's necks, like definitely go to war for each other, kind of.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:54

Yeah, we should watch a lot of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:56

There are some lots of cheesy Star Trek episodes, original Star Trek episodes. I guess you could say this about every one of them, but especially the original series. But there's some that are like really, really good, really serious, great sci-fi, and just great stories.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:13

So if you want to have a lot of fun, go watch the original Trouble with Tribbles, immediately followed by The Deep Space Nine, Trials and Trible Asians, Triple Hyphenations.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:24

And I think that's all we're gonna say about that. I think so. There's there's other things that I I know I know there's things that have been popping in on my head.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:32

I'm like, uh but I'm it's just it's just it's just go watch them. It's fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:36

Go watch. Would you say so? I know the answer to this because you haven't you hadn't seen franchise. Wesley has not seen original series, any of them, or Deep Space Nine, any of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:47

All the way through, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:48

And still loved it watching this. So they hold up.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:53

You don't have to know anything about no, there's not a lot of uh there's nothing external happening in those episodes, it's all just about what's happening in that. There's no subplot lines, there's no you know extra stuff, you know, there aren't three different things happening at once.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:07

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:07

So if you're kind of dumb and slow, you'll have no problem following it. It's just one plot line.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:12

And if for some crazy reason you're you're you're a Star Trek fan and you haven't seen these, get out of here.

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SPEAKER_02 1:21:18

Find another show. Find another podcast. Unsubscribe from ours, please. Um, all right. Switching gears. Are we talking music now? Yeah, let's get to uh so sometimes we have to just pull a song out, like because we don't have a lot of time. And so And then what happens is we think we pick easy songs.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:37

Well, it's easy for you.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:40

Well, but last week's was not easy for me, and I think we both thought it was gonna be easy for both of us.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:44

Last week was to be with you. Well, that was a little bit different because um uh I've been wor I practice that song a lot. Like I practiced the you know, the guitar solo on it.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:00

Yeah, I guess you don't normally strum chords on this lighthouse side.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:03

No, and I don't normally strum chords in a fast like Irish jig sort of popping, you know. I've never I don't play like that ever.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:11

Well, you learned something new.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:12

I do. I did really I learned that I need to like there's there is a uh so we're like jumping way ahead. We did the Ring Collective My Lighthouse, which is a uh uh what would you call it?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:24

A praise contemporary Christian music.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:25

Contemporary Christian music.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:26

But it's it's not pop. It's pop, I guess, but it's definitely got the the Irish.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:32

Is it one of those Christian rock songs that got mainstream radio play? I never looked it up. I meant to look it up like Jar of Fly. I don't remember if it's not Jar of Flies, yeah. Jar of Clay or Jar of Fly Jar of Flies Alice and Chains. Christian band, Jar of Flies Christian band, Alice and Chains. Or like um I think DC Talk, Jesus Freak, I think was it. Yeah, no, it's it might have been on like the praise charts, but definitely not on like well it's because it's got kind of a you don't it doesn't necessarily I mean it's it's it's very much a uh a religious song, but it's not yeah, it doesn't like it's about God.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:07

Yeah, it doesn't it says God, but uh there's some versions that say your great love and there's some that say your love.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:13

The version we did, yeah, there's several of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:15

Um Your Great Love.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:18

It's your great love instead of God's great love. God's great love. Um but but little little twinks like that. I like this version. We've we've done um is this the first praise music we've done? It's 31 episodes. I don't think we're done yet.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:31

But anyway, it's one we did we've done at church. We Rob and I play at church, and I dislike a majority of the music we play. Not I mean, just not my kind of music at all. It's not, and it's all very, very formulaic and boring. Words are nice usually, some most of the time, but this one I like is because it's more fun. I like faster music. We don't have a lot of fast options. This is one of those.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:55

This is one we usually do when there's kids like Family Sunday when there's kids coming in.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:59

But I like it with even for without kids.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:02

Um and it's more, it's like definitely in my genre of preferred types of music. Like I like Mumford and Sons.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:08

Yeah, this is like Christian Mumford and Sons. It is. I don't like Mumford and Sons, but I I get why people love this song. It's a good song. This is my favorite version of the song.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:16

Yeah, because it's on Campfire 2. Campfire Volume 2, something like that. There's a couple different things.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:21

And the piano's great on it, the way they come in, the way they build. They sing the crap.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:27

She's not in the band, but he, the lead singer.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:29

Oh, really? Yeah, she's do you know their names? No. Who cares? Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:33

Jeremy Rend. Jeremy Render.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:36

It's just Christian Rock. We don't have to learn their names. They're not real.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:39

Well, you're the one that normally learns. I never learned. I haven't changed. You're the one who's changed.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:44

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:45

I didn't I didn't I didn't do my my my normal my normal prep for this one. Uh both in both in playing or um talking.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:55

But anyway, it's a nice positive song. It doesn't have to be uh strictly. But like the lighthouse words, I mean that's a popular. There's tons of gospel music out there about there's a song called The Lighthouse, because it's supposed to be, you know, a reference to.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:11

There's a movie, a religious movie about uh it's called it's called Lighthouse, The Lighthouse.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:16

The one on The Lighthouse on the Pattenson. Oh, yeah. They drink very religious. Be careful, you might come out converted at the other end of that one. Um I was gonna say the song, and I was thinking it was a Gaither song. I don't actually know if the Gaiters wrote it or if they just sang it at their homecomings.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:34

Oh, it's a lighthouse song?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:35

It's called The Lighthouse.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:36

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:37

And I think God for the lighthouse. That's how it goes. I owe my life to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:44

I owe my life to it.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:46

My life to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:47

Life to it. It's a life alert.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:49

It's a life alert commercial. I owe my life to it. Um I don't know, I don't have too much to say about it. I just I like it a lot. I think it's fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:57

Well, so playing this, we like you said, like the quick strumming. Like I need to uh as we do all these covers. Because you know, if you if you're just now tuning in and you've listened to an hour and a half.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:09

You're like, who are these people?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:10

And for some crazy reason what are they talking about? Still listening. I so I we we pick different genres. Let's say and I take turns every every time. I when I usually play this song at church, I'm playing lead and I'm just doing fillers, like in between. If there's like a little instrumental break, I'm I'm playing like a Stratocaster usually. And this is I've never strummed this song. I don't know if I've ever strummed anything this fast. I think maybe the you know the song Question by Moody Blues, where you listen to it on the Yes. It's like in it again. I I've strummed that song, but like I I usually if I got I should um it's singing and strumming fast, you'd think it'd be easier. Like it's hard. It's a difficult kind of way of playing the guitar.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:57

Yeah. And uh well, there were some rhythms that I wanted to play on the piano, but I couldn't sing against them without losing time, so I had to just give it up.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:04

I think if I practice this song more, I'd probably have it down and do a better thing. It's not a hard song. No, no, it's I mean I definitely And I like the bridge.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:11

It has a bridge on it.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:12

I love the the part they did. If I if I could.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:16

Where they take the A minor and E minor?

SPEAKER_00 1:27:18

Yeah, they so in like the rec this is like I said, this is the best version of because they they the minor chords are great in it. But they do that uh what what is it? Do you remember what the chords are?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:29

Well It's a C U on the da b.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:42

And then it goes.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:43

Oh, instead of a D, it goes C it goes A minor E.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:47

Sing it.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:48

Day.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:52

I mean, that's so that makes that's worth the song. Yeah. And you don't even have to listen to They don't even do that on their original. Just listen to the uh just listen to the second. The end of the second verse. And it does this. It's just really slick.

Switching To My Lighthouse Cover

SPEAKER_02 1:28:03

Yeah, you want the version that's on Campfire 2, though that's the one we're talking about. Because there's a million versions.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:08

Yes, yes. This is the best one.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:10

Christian music has this really annoying habit of just redoing everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:13

And they'll be like, Yeah, I listened to the coming for practice, but yeah, I listen to it. Oh no, we're doing the one that's 160 people.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:25

And then they bring it up and you're like, I didn't hear that.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:27

Yeah, that's one of 72.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:29

I would say I find the whole Christian music.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:31

They're all like nine minutes. Yeah, it's I hate it. Honestly. Although these guys, I think, are actually.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:38

They're their own band.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:39

Yeah, they're not part of they made a lot of great songs. Um a lot of a lot of a lot of great songs. They they they got together, they said, they just noticed that, well, honestly, they noticed that people like us were crapping on Christian people. And they're like, well, let's just get people back singing together in church. Let's give them some positive songs. And I think that's awesome. Yeah. Like definitely fits. You want to sing along with it.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:02

It's super Yeah, it's fun. It's just fun song. What does it sound like?

SPEAKER_00 1:29:08

It's uh well, I was gonna kind of work this into my uh categories. Yeah. It sounds like Lindsay Buckingham, uh Holiday Road. Yeah. Like the National Amphoons commercial. The commercials, uh, movies. Yeah. Holiday Road. Or it's like Safe to Shaw. No, I can't. Every time we play the Safety Show There's another song we play at church that's like a always reminds me of a ludicrous song, and I can't.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:37

Well, then there's one that sounds like the Moana, the Moana song, too.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:40

Or Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:42

That is that is that is Twinkle Little Star. The Moana one is um gosh, and I can't think of it now either.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:50

Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Uh shoot. Yeah, we won't think of that.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:55

You want to do covers and stuff?

SPEAKER_00 1:29:56

Yes. So we're gonna do our little we got little categories on on this uh B side cover?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:05

B side.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:05

So if you could have a B side for this song.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:08

Alright, so you're probably not gonna know either one of these, but and I couldn't decide. I you want to go first, because I'm I have mystery.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:16

Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:17

I want to I would like Oh, B side. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:21

Well you can do cover first, whatever you want to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:23

Well, because mine is both. I have a I have crap. I think I just did two covers. Um I want to uh oh yeah, no, no, no, B side. My B-side's uh everyday people by uh Sly and the Family Sound. Ah Everyday people So and really the main reason I would love to hear Sly cover this. Actually, is that your cover too? No, but in the very beginning, the reason I thought about this, I thought it's kind of a nice pairing because they're all singing together, and and and everyday people, it's like four different vocalists and they all take turns. Kind of similar to how this is, like they and they build, but it's also just like promoting unity and gotcha. But but the way it starts is so the way uh this song starts, the one we did, the My Lighthouse, is it's like it's a piano, but uh the way Everyday People starts is like boom bum boom.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:21

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:22

It's very, very similar. Um, anyways, so I would go with Sly. Sly Everyday People.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:32

Okay, what's who's your cover?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:34

Uh my cover, I'm gonna go with Fleetwood Mac.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:37

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:37

Because I was thinking, you know, Lindsay Buckingham was um lead guitarist in Fleetwood Mac and for Holiday Rose.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:43

Right, all right.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:44

And the uh I mean honestly, the f Fleetwood Mac's got a uh they've this would be a kill. They I'd I I would really like to hear it, like legitimately. I think that would be a great, great cover.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:56

Okay, well I I first I was wanted Momford and Sons to be the cover.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:02

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:03

It does. But then I also like there's a song called Winter Winds on their first album. And the windows da da da da da da da It didn't get any radio play, I don't think. And it has like a big trumpet ba-da-da, like big fanfare type thing that reminds me of the uh Oh, nice. So I like that. And then um, but I also your sister actually a long time ago sent me a song by a band called Trampled by Turtles. Did you ever hear of them? They're almost like a punk version of this like Irish kind of sounding music. Oh and they have a song called Wait So Long.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:40

Dropkick.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:41

So I decided I would have Winter Winds be my cup my B side by Momford and Sons, and let Trampled and Turt Trampled by Turtles be my cover. So it's like a dirtier version of not dirtier, but like dirty sounding, like gruntier sounding.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:56

A little more garage.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:58

Yeah, yeah. Greaser.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:59

Greasier, a little greasier.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:02

Greasy.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:03

Alright, what's your soundtrap?

SPEAKER_00 1:33:06

Um Shawshank? Oh wow Shawshank Redemption? Um, I feel like it's a uh you know, it's just a struggle the whole way through for Andy, and he's gotta just keep pushing on and he just patience, holds tight, he looks for his for his hope. And I don't want to spoil Shaw Shank, of course, if you haven't seen it, but let's just say some there's some shore involved at some point.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:35

Yeah, and I yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:37

Well, I have any seafaring romance movie adapted from a Victoria era romance novel where the wife has to travel with her seafaring husband.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:48

Not to be a smart aleck, but can not to be a William Shatner about it, but can you uh name one?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:55

I can't remember the names of any books I've read that fit that plot, but there's lots of choosers for it.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:00

Like, oh, would you say there's as many a seafaring wife movie book? So like is there a motorcycle?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:09

Maybe not specifically sea related. Is that what motorcycle romances are about?

SPEAKER_00 1:34:17

Yes. It's like a transformer.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:20

Oh it's it's like that family guy where the two cars he's like, it's me. It's like you know what I was gonna do. No, but there's like lots of romantic romance trope is like forced proximity where you have to be with the person and you end up falling in love. And so of course, being stuck on a ship together, you could like ha play this song as a like you know, realizing how much they actually like each other.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:46

Oh that's wonderful.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:48

See? I gave it thought. You can't take that away from me. You can't take that away.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:55

What is that? Um What's the you can't take that away from me? That's it. Oh, okay. Who is that?

SPEAKER_02 1:35:02

Uh, the way you wear your hat. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:07

It says it's old standard, right? Yeah. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:09

The way you dance tiltery.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:11

The those those songs you never I never know who did it originally.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:14

Well, they like Dean Martin and Yeah, but it's like rarely them.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:17

Like it's rarely them that that did it. That actually sang it. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:21

It might also have been in a movie. I don't know, an old movie as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:24

I don't know.

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