Growing Up 90s: Summer Memories, Movies & Lovefool | Ep 37

We bounce from movies and music into the messy truth of 90s summer freedom, where boredom is the feature and not a bug. We revisit everything from Star Trek IV comfort-watch energy to Lovefool chord talk, then circle back to what it feels like raising kids when you can “always know” where they are. 

• our standing-in-line concert podcast setup and why YouTube is part of the bit 
• remembering artists and creators we grew up with, plus the weird way news lands now 
• Sublime’s new era with Jacob Nowell, and why homage can still feel real 
• quick-hit review of The Punisher One Last Kill and what we wanted more of 
• Strong Songs as a deep-listening rabbit hole, from Talking Heads to The Cardigans 
• Koji Kondo, Japanese jazz fusion, and why retro game music works 
• Enemy of the State and the fun of “enhance” tech paranoia 
• Star Trek IV as pure escapism and a rare rewatch temptation 
• Project Hail Mary adaptation choices, including puppetry and pacing 
• parenting in dead zones, independence, and why tracking changes the vibe 
• summer mornings, hanging out alone, and what we ate when nobody watched us 
• water balloons, teenage intimidation, and the stories that still stick 
• 90s summer food and drink nostalgia, plus sensory memories that snap you back 
• Lovefool context, album tone, guitar shapes, and dream cover versions 

if you really like to uh see the concert with us, then you'll have to skip over to the YouTube if you're just a listener. 
check out Strong Songs. 

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Transcript

Cold Open And Podcast Premise

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On this episode of the audience will like it. Break lights uh reverse lights come on, backs up. We're like, crap. We start running. Um, David's crying. The baby?

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Yeah. What a loser. What a baby. I just threw him at the car.

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Alright. What sounds instantly take you back to summer? 90s summer.

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I would say uh the crow soundtrack.

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Oh wow. I used to draw a lot with Mark Kessler, the Imagination Station. Want we just sing you that entire thing. Sure, yeah, please. Joven South David. Get ready, it's almost time.

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The car would drive by and we would just launch a balloon at him.

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Like Can you imagine me as a mom back then? Because I I think I was born in the correct time.

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Dude, like no one was like, what if we hit it? What if we hit the car?

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Well, I mean, where were anyone's parents?

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Taillight, everybody's just like, whoops. Oh, yeah, that's right.

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We're shooting water balloons and cars.

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When you're forced to learn a song, you are forced to listen to it. And I was like, this song is great.

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Yeah.

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Oh, hi, are we back?

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Uh yeah.

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Doesn't it seem like it's such a long time between recordings now? Longer than two weeks?

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Honestly, it's it seems like it's been two months.

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It feels great. I'm not gonna lie.

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To be back on the air.

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Uh, it feels great to be back on the air.

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Hang on a second. I got a theme song for you.

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Okay, sorry. Just hold a thought, okay? Welcome to the podcast where Rob tells me to be quiet.

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Two married friends in a little room of standing in line with two microphones. They got in a car crash. She died in his arms. He kissed her lips.

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I don't even know. Where's the tonal center now, Rob? There we go. Yeah, the punchline of the song. The audience will like it because you sucked at it. That's alright. That helps us stay true to the song. True to the show, I mean. True to the show.

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I tried as hard as I could.

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Did you try as hard as you could? Who was telling me? Oh, my sister was telling me someone was in an uncomfortable situation that they were like someone else's parents were being crazy, and so the person that was just there said that they looked out the window as hard as they could.

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Oh yeah. I love uh adaptations of as hard as you can. Yeah. Like uh moon uh mooning someone as hard as you can.

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I think our son is very good at mooning someone as hard as you can.

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I've moon people pretty hard.

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I like to tell you to lock the door the door as hard as you can.

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I have heard you say that. She's uh telling the truth, folks. Hey, you were saying something earlier about it's good to be back or something like that. And then I shushed you.

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Yeah.

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It had to be done. I mean, it had to be done. We had a theme song.

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And I listened and I shushed right down.

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You just shushed right on down.

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Down to the ground.

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Thanks for doing that.

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You're welcome. Welcome to the podcast. It's not called Radio Rental. In case you're looking tight tightly in at my shirt, it's not called that.

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It's called Easy Fellas.

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It's called the audience won't like it. And it's a standing in line simulation podcast. I really like to call it that.

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Yeah. That's exactly what it is.

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It is. We're standing in line here. We have our our uh turnstile, as I like to call it.

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Stanchin, as I do, even though stanchions are velvet ropes.

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This ain't that.

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I think stanchions hold velvet ropes, but Oh, you're probably true. Can't be none. No. You're probably right. Known. Cannon.

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Can't be.

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He went quiet. It's okay. Is it? Is he allowed to take a no you're right?

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Month-long break.

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Oh wow.

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No, Jeffrey. Jeffrey, come back. Jeffrey, come back.

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You can blame it all. Oh me. Um, you'll hear some uh AC in the background. It's because it's a hundred degrees out.

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Yeah, who cares? I don't care if you do it.

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Not to turn that off.

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No, I don't that would have been that was a good call. You might also hear the dishwasher. I just started that. And uh I also started the washing machine just in time for us to get get recording.

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Would you look at that? Hey, would you remind me every so often to check the battery on that?

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I would love to remind you, but I might forget. But anyway, yep. So what we do here, what we do here is we stand in line for a concert. Every week's a different concert. I mean, every episode's a different concert. And uh while we're waiting in line, you know, we might end up talking about some random stuff. So stick around for that. And then if you really like to uh see the concert with us, then you'll have to skip over to the YouTube if you're just a listener. Or if you're watching, you have to find the different video of the concert in the shocking space. Tell them. Spoiler alert, it's not gonna be the real people that we're waiting to see. It's you guys are gonna watch me and Rob do a version.

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It's not gonna be the cardigans.

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Not gonna be the cardigans.

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1996. Love Fool Romeo and Juliet soundtrack.

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Thank you. Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes.

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Mm-hmm.

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And whoever else was in that show. And William Shakespeare.

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Was John Linguizamo in that movie? I I I want to say that. I want to put John Linguizamo in a lot of movies. He's I I think he's in a hundred more movies in my head than he actually is in real life.

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He bet he wishes he had a lot of extra money.

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Uh is he dead? Spawn a couple years before that movie.

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Is he a dead one? No, I don't think so. He's a living John.

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Yeah. He was in uh well, I saw him, he was in John Wick.

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Um who is he again?

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He was in Tu Wong Fuck.

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But describe who he was in John Wick, please.

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Oh, he was uh John Wick's mechanic. Oh. They brought they stole the car. Do you mean it's McCann Wick?

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah, okay. That's good. That's a real good one. That's a real good way to open it up.

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To open it up.

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So, yeah, we're not gonna be talking about just any random stuff. We're gonna be talking about probably Enemy of the State, probably Star Trek 4, Far From Home. Probably Project Hail Mary.

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Oh, yeah. Probably Punisher One

Pop Culture Deaths And Misheard Lyrics

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Last Kill.

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Yeah, but we gotta do those things fast. I've got water aerobics at six months.

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Well then let's talk about Peebo Bryson real quick because I skipped over him last time. The man died June 2nd, 2026.

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Eight days before my birthday.

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Peebo, if ever you're in my arms again.

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Aw, this time. I'll love you much much. I love that song.

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I want to cover that song.

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We did that in Mark Man. It was a big push at the end. We all turned our horns and went da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And then we had another one which is powerful. It was. Thank you.

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I would honestly like to hear that. I'm gonna push uh I'm gonna push for that.

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Connor Baby McMahon.

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Yeah, come on. Come on. I would love to hear a marching band version of that song. I'm not even kidding.

SPEAKER_04 7:11

Uh would you love to have played one? Because I did. You could stand, hold my hand, and it'd be like you were right there with me. Oh my gosh. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 7:18

Oh wow. That's like summer of uh forget it. Yeah. Um, Beauty and the Beast with Celine Dion.

SPEAKER_04 7:24

Oh, did he sing the the um you know the celebrity head up? He had the boy part.

SPEAKER_03 7:29

Exactly. And you know what else he did? This is my favorite people. Well, no, my favorites if ever you're in my arms again. But my second favorite Peebo story or memory is his Time Life. Remember those Time Life Um paid advertisements where they just play like the greatest hits of the 70s. He was in the uh Soul Ballads one. He he hosted that. And I would I'd sit there and I would just watch. I loved watching those commercials.

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They were late night. I will still see what I'm saying.

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If they were on, if if if one of those I may just watch one tonight. I may just pull one up on YouTube.

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Oh, it's gonna save that segue.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

Oh. Okay, I see. David Clayton Thomas died. You know who that is? Blood Sweat and Tears, late singer.

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Oh, we were listening to it.

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I talked about him in my life.

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And then he just up and died right after that? You killed him with your sermon?

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Well, you know what? I talked about Norman Greenbaum, too.

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He died too?

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No, but he's he's still alive to Earth Singh.

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Somebody brought that song up today. We need to do that song.

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Spirit in the Sky? Yeah. It's good too. Yeah. But um, yeah, Blood Sweat and Tears, great band. I think I could say I watched I watched uh Woodstock. I watched their performance in Woodstock the other day. It's great.

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Did you take a time machine to go back to it?

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Don't be so silly.

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Oh.

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Uncle Dan. Uncle Dan, you uh Uncle Dan had the time machine. You got some data Creighton Thomas. No, he he he they have a similar voice.

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Oh. Yeah. Uncle Dan didn't have the time machine.

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Uncle Dan has not given it back. I'm waiting on that, Uncle Dan.

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Dan.

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Uncle Dan and I uh we did a uh trade one time. Lawnmower for a gun.

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I remember that.

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Yeah.

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I remember that. That's a good trade. Uh uh nine millimeter Derringer for a uh nine millimeter lawnmower, 250 caliber lawnmower bullet magazine clip.

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Um okay. Uncle Dan. Oh, do you know what Dennison Ashley danced to? You make me so very happy at the end.

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Awesome.

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Well, shout out to Dennison Ashley. Uh James Burroughs died. He's the uh Cheers, Will and Grace, friends, Mary Tyler, Moore, Fraser, Taxi, etc. Right.

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Um Director. Okay.

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Um James Burroughs. And uh, you know, we forgot to mention Granny's Eyes.

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Oh, how did we forget that?

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We I mentioned it, but we never brought it back.

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Oh.

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Just real quick, we talked about family family matters. That was last time.

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That's our Father's Day episode, yeah.

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The episode where Urkel um transforms into Bruce Lee.

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Uh-huh.

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So check that episode out, episode 36, I believe.

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It's a rare condition in this day and age. The love and condition, and then of the grand design.

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No, but really the secret lyrics are Granny's Eyes.

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Alright, so I used to sing Granny's Eyes until I was like.

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Did you think that's what it was? Yeah. You weren't just singing before.

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Because they showed the grandma. Yeah, like a picture of her. And they'd be like, she like smile. And I was like, Granny's eyes right there. There they are. That loving condition of her eyes.

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That's what I thought.

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So I was singing it as a grown man, actually shooting guns with a couple of my buddies, with with Brian and Dan, who who we talked about them recently. And Dan said.

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Not Uncle Dan.

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Not Uncle Dan, different Dan. Yeah, friend Dan. And Dan said, uh, are you s did you just sing Granny's Eyes? I said, yeah. He's like, I'm pretty sure it's grand design.

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And it is. And Danny is.

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It is grand design. Okay, so there it is, Granny's Eyes. Uh and then one more, one more little thing before we uh move on to a couple other things. Did you know Action Pack Jack? You know Action Pack Jack? I don't. You know Jack.

SPEAKER_04 11:27

Oh, yeah, with the action pack. With the action pack.

SPEAKER_03 11:30

Yep. Yeah. He said Jack, I don't want to misquote you, but he said he has an uncle. So I think Jack and his uncle, first cool news number one. This is the same. Went to the same high school.

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Oh my goodness.

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Crazy.

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My kids went to the same high school as their uncle.

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Whoa.

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What?

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What the heck?

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Jack. Jack, you're not so cool. Uh second, uh, you could decide which is bigger news. Uh his uh his uncle, I think, went to high school with Turbo B from Snap.

SPEAKER_04 12:07

Oh. I don't know any of that. Cool, Jack. We talked about Turbo. I got the bow. Oh. The guy who rapped on all the uh Euro uh dating.

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He has a name called Turbo B. Turbo B. Yeah, is his name.

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Any chance you know what high school that was?

SPEAKER_03 12:25

Was it in Columbus? I I saw that he grew up in Pennsylvania.

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Oh.

SPEAKER_03 12:29

Um, I don't know the details. I Jack, see if you could arrange maybe I don't know if you still keep in touch with your uncle and or turbo B. But could you arrange an interview?

SPEAKER_04 12:40

For some reason I just have Turbo B in my mind as a snail. I think it's from that movie.

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Movie Turbo. Yeah. It wasn't B. Maybe Turbo S.

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Turbo S for snail.

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Um Jack, I would be willing to would you do it for uh if I could get if I could get you a Bodui uh painting.

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Ugh You're so disgusting. Moving right along. By the way, uh you know what? Never mind I'm gonna stray into that territory.

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Do we want to talk about this? What ter is it adult family air mouse?

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It is, it's adult family body bag. Your whole body's gotta be inside of it.

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So I wanna know more.

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Off the air, folks. Sorry.

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Jeffrey wants to know. He will catch up.

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Jeffrey?

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He will. Um, okay.

New Sublime And Punisher Picks

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Do we want to talk about the Sublime album Until the Sun Explodes?

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You could talk about it. I mean, I listened to it and it sounded like Sublime, and so then I said, okay, great, I love it.

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You know what? I'm just gonna say real quick that I like it.

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Yeah.

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I was a uh because if you go online and you read reception, you have half of the camp of Sublime fans hate it. The other half really enjoy it. I'm in the really enjoy it.

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Yeah, I I'm a very casual sublime fan, but just come on.

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Like it's it's Jacob Noel. I I just wrote down that that it's high grade pastiche. It's just an homage to his dad. We're not gonna get his dad back. I love Sublime. I listen to tons and tons of sublime. Oh, he's gonna be at our concert.

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That's definitely true.

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But uh this is just so much.

SPEAKER_04 14:17

I like Is he gonna be giving people tattoos at our concert?

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His dad? Yeah. Yeah. Everybody just gets sublime tattoos on the battery. But they could say philip ongulator if they wanted it to. On the front. On the front. If you get it on the front, yeah, it's sublime. I just think, you know, I read read in the liner notes uh as a kid when I had uh the sublime album, and they got he's hold Bradley's holding Jacob. Yeah, like not even one. And then he of course died, and I just always felt bad for the kid. So I think it's cool that he's singing in his dad's spot. He's got a great voice, that the band's tight, they got some good guitar players on there.

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So everybody just calm down.

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Yeah, I like it. I'm uh Caroline likes it.

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Yeah, that is my one bone to pick, is that you guys were super excited about it and no one told me.

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Caroline's the one who told me.

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Well, thanks a lot, Caroline.

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She's a camp. Church camp. Can't hear you. Alright, Punisher, one last kill. Speaking of church camp. Speaking of classic Disney Plus stuff. What'd you think?

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Oh, I loved it. It was great. I wish it was I wish there was more. You know what I really wish there was more of? Just so you guys know, it's it's like a standalone episode. It's kind of like an after the fact when he's gotten rid of all the Yeah, it's like 45 minutes long.

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Yeah. It's Judith Light's in it. Did you know that?

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That was Judith Light in the wheelchair?

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Yeah.

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Hot dog. She looks different.

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Hot. Who's the boss now, Judith? Yeah. Angela. Good for her. Yeah, I think.

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Is she really like broken like that?

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Oh, I I don't I don't know. I didn't notice.

SPEAKER_04 15:57

Oh, really? She's in a wheelchair and then she stands up and hobbles around.

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I absolutely love stuff like that.

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I mean, uh I wanted to see more intervention on the streets at the end. Um, when like how at the very end he he had some some justice for that man and his dog. I want I wanted to have I wanted to get to that part sooner.

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Did you ever see Laundry Day with uh Thomas Jane? Nope. He takes a yes you have Jack Daniels bottle, sets that dude on fire, he's a pimp. Oh, it's pretty cool. Um, anyways, this is great.

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This is Thomas Jane from um Inter uh Expanse. Expanse.

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Yes. He was the the punisher between Dolph Langard and uh Ray Stevenson. Ray Stevenson was my favorite, but anyways, actually Burton's probably my favorite. He's great. Uh Uncle Day and I agreed there was maybe just a little too much teenage angst.

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In this recent Yeah. Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying.

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I wanted to look a lot of that.

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I wanted him to get into the like taking back the streets. Oh. That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_03 16:58

I thought you meant a very specific thing where he goes back and like specifically rights some of the wrongs.

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No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 17:04

I wanted him to just get out on the streets and just start start absolutely desperate. Oh, yeah. It was basically like John Wick meets if you haven't seen it and you like The Punisher and you like John Wick, Raid, Dread, any of those, you know, last blood to an extent. Like it's

Strong Songs Jazz Fusion And Neo Geo

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freaking cool. Check it out. It is. I I loved it. Um okay, strong songs.

SPEAKER_04 17:27

Oh, yeah. I don't have much to say about that, so you can talk about it.

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I'm just gonna say this whatever we podcast called Strong Songs. Podcast I just found listening to Loveful. Listening to stuff about Loveful.

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Mm-hmm. Because that's a song we did.

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Yes. So if we're gonna we're gonna not say a lot about Loveful today, I'm sure that you might want to hear. And if you feel like you need more, check out Strong Songs. This dude. Yeah. Uh Kirk Hamilton, I think, is his name.

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Kirk Cameron.

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I went on a bender. Yeah, Kirk He was left behind a fortune. Cameron this Kirk was. Um never mind. I'm about to go somewhere really awful. Okay, um. Billy. This is video. My brother said Don't say it.

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You can't go. No. Sorry, guys. Here I am to remove the humor. Continue.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

Okay, I just wanted to say this. I went on a total bender. I listened to his uh Koji Kondo. I'll go back to that in a second. Like he's the Mario guy. Um, Talking Heads, Stop Making Sense, Steele Damn Babylon Sister, Rosanna, Love Fool, of course. It's great. Listen to his explanation on Love Fool. It's awesome. Dark side of the moon, kind of blue. But I listened to um Mario, and so you remember when we were listening to Cassiopeia on the way to Michigan?

SPEAKER_04 18:47

Yes, which keeps coming up on my phone now. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:50

And we I I said, doesn't this stuff, bless you? Sorry. Sound like like Mario Kart. Like waiting music, like waiting music, menu music?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:59

Well, so Koji Kondo was in, I think I'm saying his name right, the you know, he all the Mario music, he's a legend. He used to be in a Cassiopeia or Cassiopeia um cover band. He was like a jazz.

SPEAKER_04 19:15

Oh, there you go. So thank you, strong songs.

SPEAKER_03 19:18

So he so Cassiopeia was actually kind of partially responsible for that Mario sound.

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Here we know.

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Now we know guys, the world's small. I love it. I love that stuff. Japanese uh prog or Japanese jazz fusion is cute. I love it. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 19:36

It sounds like what it is.

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Speaking of NeoTurf Masters.

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I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_03 19:41

Um I've been on a big Neo Geo kick in the last couple days.

SPEAKER_04 19:44

Oh god, it's just what I was supposed to remind you to talk about. Talk about that golf game that you can play in.

SPEAKER_03 19:49

NeoTurfmasters. I'm I'm not gonna take all of our time talking about it. It is foreshadowing. It's so it's so good. If you like golf, if you it doesn't matter if you like golf, if you like Japanese jazz fusion, the whole soundtrack is that sweet spot. Okay. So that's great.

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Good.

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Then you have it's just so easy to like it's like fishing in Stardew Valley. It's just like pretty chill, challenging enough, great pace. Highly recommend if you got access to Neo Geo, check out Neo Turf Masters. Nice. Okay. Clark and I played it.

SPEAKER_04 20:28

You just I didn't play it. No one no one said, hey, if I teach you how to play this, will you play it with me? No one said that to me.

SPEAKER_03 20:35

Would you play it with me? No. Oh, please.

SPEAKER_04 20:37

I don't want to. I don't want to.

SPEAKER_03 20:39

We'll play it before next

Enemy Of The State Rewatch Notes

SPEAKER_03 20:40

time. Alright, do we want to talk about Enemy of the State? Sure. Anything you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_04 20:45

No.

SPEAKER_03 20:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 20:47

I've just been doing what you've been telling me to.

SPEAKER_03 20:49

Okay. We're moving out pretty different. We are. We're doing great.

SPEAKER_04 20:52

I'm happy and pleased.

SPEAKER_03 20:52

Alright, okay. We we these two weeks we we ended up watching.

SPEAKER_04 20:57

Yeah, it's summer.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

I'm enjoying my summer.

SPEAKER_04 21:00

I just gotta.

SPEAKER_03 21:00

I'll just We gotta talk about some movies, right? We finished 24, but we weren't gonna talk about that, right? No. Well, we finished the first season. Yeah. We saw like eight more. Okay. We watched Enemy of the State, 1998.

SPEAKER_04 21:15

Yeah, I like it okay. I I I I wasn't married to Will Smith's portrayal of his character. It was a little kind of like who do you who you what kind of person are you trying to be?

SPEAKER_03 21:24

So I wanted to ask you about that. Like what would do you do you think he did a bad job, or do you think he just didn't know how to play it?

SPEAKER_04 21:32

Yeah, I think he didn't do a great job. It felt like he was trying to be his goofy Will Smith character, but also he was like this upstanding lawyer citizen, and it just didn't feel like those two things went together very much.

SPEAKER_03 21:44

Big on the line type of situation.

SPEAKER_04 21:47

Sorry. I liked the movie, I liked the premise of the movie where they destroyed his life and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 21:53

Yeah, you like that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_04 21:54

I like to see I like to see a good upstanding person's life get ruined. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Sti-5. Mel Gibson, Tom Cruise, Danny Glover, and Willem Defoe were all originally asked for that, tried to play that role.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

They couldn't get him. They couldn't get him to do that.

SPEAKER_03 22:12

Could you imagine Danny Glover?

SPEAKER_04 22:14

I don't know much about Danny Glover. He seems like a real serious guy, though.

SPEAKER_03 22:17

Danny Glover was in Angels in the Outfield.

SPEAKER_04 22:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:20

He was in Predator 2.

SPEAKER_04 22:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:22

He was in Shooter.

SPEAKER_04 22:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

He was in the cold this cold case 48 L.

SPEAKER_04 22:28

Square man.

SPEAKER_03 22:30

A square man? Yeah. No, I wouldn't. He was in uh Lethal Weapon?

SPEAKER_04 22:36

Okay. I know who he is. I I do know who he is, but I.

SPEAKER_03 22:40

You know who he is? And the dead giveaway is first description? A square man.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

Danny Glover.

SPEAKER_04 22:50

Doesn't he have like a very sharply angled face? It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03 22:58

Are you thinking like Idris Elba or something?

SPEAKER_04 23:00

No, I know who I know who these people are.

SPEAKER_03 23:02

Can I show you a picture of Danny Glover?

SPEAKER_04 23:04

Sure. Sorry I keep coughing. I have some sort of condition. Can you comment below if you think you know why I cough all the time?

SPEAKER_03 23:09

I'd say maybe are you maybe thinking of Lisa Bonet?

SPEAKER_04 23:12

She's got kind of a from uh enemy of the face.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

No, she's she's quite pretty.

SPEAKER_04 23:17

Was that the girlfriend in it?

SPEAKER_03 23:18

She does have an angled face, though. Yeah, she does. Um let's see.

SPEAKER_04 23:21

I wouldn't call her a square man.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

You wouldn't? No. Lisa Bonet.

SPEAKER_04 23:28

Uh yeah, yes. So to me, that's a- I think it looks like a um He has kind of a large face.

SPEAKER_03 23:36

He's got like he looks like a black Ron Pearlman.

SPEAKER_04 23:39

Okay, yeah, totally. I would call Ron Pearlman a square man.

SPEAKER_03 23:42

Okay. Alright. Fair enough.

SPEAKER_04 23:44

Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

Should have just stopped.

SPEAKER_04 23:45

You don't understand what I what I mean by square man, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 23:48

Yes. So they were gonna cast a square man. That'd be it would have been very interesting.

SPEAKER_04 23:52

Um I might have liked any one of those better than Will Smith. He just didn't commit to me. He needed to either be funnier or seriouser. Yeah, that's fair. Anyway, move on. Okay. That's good though. If you haven't seen it in this 1998 movie, it's all the technical enhancements. You mean we can if you want to. It's you were right. There's a lot of enhance. I'm trying to zoom in on stuff that's impossible. Can I zoom in on?

SPEAKER_03 24:17

Can I talk about Scott Kahn real quick?

SPEAKER_04 24:19

Who's that?

SPEAKER_03 24:20

Scott Kahn was the uh he's he's j um James Kahn's son. He's got the he had the really tall, spiky hair. Yep. He was Tweeter in Varsity Blues. Yeah, he was in Oceans of Love and Ocean Story.

SPEAKER_04 24:31

Yeah, yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

Boiler room.

SPEAKER_04 24:32

You can talk about him. Okay. You don't have to keep listing stuff.

SPEAKER_03 24:35

You don't have any Scott Conn opinions?

SPEAKER_04 24:37

Was he one of the two thugs?

SPEAKER_03 24:39

He was just I just think I always like seeing him in the movie. He was like in a trillion movies around this era, and he's like pretty much the same character in all of them? He somehow plays a way a different character, but always the same character. He's just like uh tough, joking.

SPEAKER_04 24:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:56

Um or uh Car Thief or the taller of the two? No, the shorter. Oh, he's the shorter one. No, that was uh Bucey's song. Yeah, um Jack Beusey. Anyways, just want to talk about Scott

Star Trek IV Escape Velocity

SPEAKER_03 25:10

Conn.

SPEAKER_04 25:10

Yeah, move on.

SPEAKER_03 25:12

Uh we watched Star Trek.

SPEAKER_04 25:13

Yes, with the Wales.

SPEAKER_03 25:15

Star Trek 4, Far From Home.

SPEAKER_04 25:16

Mm-hmm. Um It was delightful.

SPEAKER_03 25:20

Wasn't that the best?

SPEAKER_04 25:21

Yeah. It was a real uh escape. It was a real escapism.

SPEAKER_03 25:25

What uh had you seen have you seen any of the Star Trek's the original series movies?

SPEAKER_04 25:31

I don't think I have.

SPEAKER_03 25:33

Did you see the one where with Picard and Shatner? I think you did.

SPEAKER_04 25:37

If you had me watch it with you, then I did.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

I think we probably watched it together. Dude, I loved this movie.

SPEAKER_04 25:42

Yeah, it was great.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

It had like absurd humor, like tech flexes.

SPEAKER_04 25:49

It almost had like Robin Hood episode of of uh of uh what's the Robin Hood episode of TNG level of ridiculousness? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

They were just everybody was just doing whatever they wanted. Yeah. Yeah, it was so ridiculous. I mean, I could say I I I own I honestly sorry. I almost said, let's just talk about this. Yeah. Let's rewatch it.

SPEAKER_04 26:14

Because I don't like to rewatch stuff like that of anything, of any. No. Rob's I love doing the podcast, but sometimes when Rob makes me watch things and I have to take notes, I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_03 26:32

Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 26:33

We watch so much stuff that I really appreciate you didn't make me take notes on. I know. That's not my fault. Make a blog post about it.

SPEAKER_03 26:43

Maybe I'll do a little Rob's corner. Yeah. You should have your own Star Trek. I talk about all the cool the attack the scene with the Italian food.

SPEAKER_04 26:52

Our kid will think you're on the phone with someone very important, but you'll just be down here recording a monologue about Star Trek 4. I totally would.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

Caroline. Uh Leslie came home and I was I was laying in bed talking to uh Claude.

SPEAKER_04 27:08

Claude. ChatGPT brother, chat GPT's cousin.

SPEAKER_03 27:12

Enemy.

SPEAKER_04 27:13

Enemy sorry, sorry. You can be enemies with your family.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

That's true. Sorry, guys. Kill each other. Blood feed civil war style. Let's do it. Alright, so what were we talking? Never mind. That was something else. Um yeah, I was talking to having a little AI conversation.

SPEAKER_04 27:29

Yeah, and our daughter thought you were having like a heartfelt meeting.

SPEAKER_03 27:33

But I was just I was monologuing for like 10 minutes at a time.

SPEAKER_04 27:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:37

And then yeah, I came back to the city. She went outside.

SPEAKER_04 27:42

She went outside to give you privacy.

SPEAKER_03 27:43

I said I was talking to some uh was just taking some notes with with Claude. Caroline's like, you you were talking to AI the whole time. I was like, for an hour.

SPEAKER_04 27:52

She's like, I came outside to give you privacy.

SPEAKER_03 27:54

So you were talking for an hour. I probably was. You were. I max out my quota constantly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:01

That's that's a flex.

SPEAKER_03 28:02

This kind of is. Yeah. Well, I earned it. Alright, what else have we watched? Alright, so we're moving off of Star Trek. Yeah. Cool. Great.

SPEAKER_04 28:09

Well, I

Project Hail Mary Book Vs Film

SPEAKER_04 28:10

mean, if that's what you want this episode to be about.

SPEAKER_03 28:12

No, I don't. No. Project Hail Mary.

SPEAKER_04 28:14

Loved it?

SPEAKER_03 28:15

Did you?

SPEAKER_04 28:16

Yeah. I'm glad that I hadn't read the book recently. I do feel like one of the things I liked about Project Hail Mary the book was like the science. And they definitely glossed right over all the science in that movie.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

Yeah, like why he didn't. Oh, are we spoiling anything?

SPEAKER_04 28:32

I so far I haven't said anything spoily. There's science in this movie about the person in space trying to save humanity just like that's a spoiler.

SPEAKER_03 28:42

It went in some details like why he survived. Like he had like a genetic.

SPEAKER_04 28:46

Oh, we well, I was just thinking not even at that part, but I was just thinking like throughout the entire thing. They like they definitely condensed it. And I guess you have to do that in a movie.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Oh, totally. Yeah. I actually thought they did a really good job sticking to the core of the book. I mean the storyline. I I I like the the in the book, the way they communicated. Yeah, I'll just stay vague.

SPEAKER_05 29:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:10

But actually, and it's pretty obvious. There's like an like the alien is obvious.

SPEAKER_04 29:14

They show it in the okay.

SPEAKER_03 29:16

This movie has an alien. I felt like in the book, that would have been a huge spoiler because they go a long time. Yeah. And then like I had no idea there was an alien in the book.

SPEAKER_04 29:28

Isn't it a unique story of today's world? I felt like when we read when I read it for the first time, I was like, wow, I haven't read anything like this in a while.

SPEAKER_03 29:34

I loved it. I loved the book. I love the movie. Uh I think you were you nailed it where it was good that we watched it so far apart because then you're not nitpicking it.

SPEAKER_04 29:45

It was good.

SPEAKER_03 29:46

Um did you know that the so the the alien was hey, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_04 29:53

Check in.

SPEAKER_03 29:56

The alien was a uh a puppet.

SPEAKER_04 29:59

It wasn't CGI.

SPEAKER_03 30:01

No. A killer like pretty much no CGI.

SPEAKER_04 30:03

Wait, it wasn't a real alien? Is that what you mean?

SPEAKER_03 30:06

No great screen.

SPEAKER_04 30:07

Was it filmed in space though?

SPEAKER_03 30:10

So the dude who So Ray Porter was who who was the narrator for the book. Uh-huh. I love Ray Porter.

SPEAKER_04 30:16

He also Oh that read the Reddit.

SPEAKER_03 30:18

Okay. He also did Bobiverse. Oh, okay. I'm pretty sure that was Ray. Yeah, yes, that's Ray Porter. Great narrator. He was going to he did uh Rocky in the book, of course. Yeah, Amaze, Amaze, or whatever. But he this this other guy, I can't I can't remember his name. Um anyways, he was the puppeteer. And while they were doing the rehearsing and everything, he was actually he would use the voices, and they just got so used to the chemistry was there between him and Ryan Gosling and everything. So there was actually a puppet running around, and the guy, the puppeteer was the one who voiced.

SPEAKER_04 30:54

I love that.

SPEAKER_03 30:55

Yeah, isn't that cool?

SPEAKER_04 30:58

I like that. That should make your heart feel glowy.

SPEAKER_03 31:00

It feels very glowy.

SPEAKER_04 31:03

All right.

SPEAKER_03 31:03

Uh Ortiz. James Ortiz was his name.

SPEAKER_04 31:06

Well, good job, Jamie. Jamie Ortiz.

SPEAKER_03 31:08

Oh, it's Jamie now.

SPEAKER_04 31:10

Yeah, we're we because of our glowy heart.

SPEAKER_03 31:12

Hmm.

SPEAKER_04 31:13

When you get when you have a glowy heart, you get a nickname.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

I miss the music. How they they talk communicated in music in the book, but I I get why they couldn't really do that on account of the glowy heart.

SPEAKER_04 31:25

Alright. All right.

SPEAKER_03 31:27

Do you want to just move on?

SPEAKER_04 31:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

Is there anything else we want to talk about? We want to talk about Neo Geo some more? No. I played some shoot-em-ups.

SPEAKER_04 31:34

I feel like you there's a lot here that you could make. Next time you say what do you want to talk about? I'm going to be like, hey, go back and check those notes from the July 1st recording. It's July 1st. This will come out on July 1st.

SPEAKER_03 31:46

In the Jeffree's data sheet, check the uh description for check Jeffree's data sheet if you need to know what I'm talking about. Yeah. It's where you can go on and look on our website and like.

SPEAKER_04 31:53

I think Neo Geo came up in our last episode of a similar stuff.

SPEAKER_03 31:56

We talked about Neo Geo some a a good bit.

SPEAKER_04 31:59

In a nostalgia episode. Yeah. Which that's what this is for three. Settle in for nostalgia apps. So Episode three? What are we on? 37. 37?

SPEAKER_03 32:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:11

Wow. Isn't that something? When does the year come? August?

SPEAKER_03 32:15

52 weeks, 365 days is shot.

SPEAKER_04 32:18

I mean, when did we start doing this?

SPEAKER_03 32:19

In August? Something like that. I'm all broken up now because we just started doing uh every other week.

SPEAKER_04 32:24

Yep, we did, and that's helping us have sustainability and continue to love our marriage.

Parenting Anxiety Meets 90s Freedom

SPEAKER_03 32:31

Okay. Alright, so we're we were talking about summer nostalgia, is that correct?

SPEAKER_04 32:37

I got the idea because our son is basically having a bit of a version of that. Where we live in an area where there's very poor cell service in some spots, some definite dead zones, some reliable dead zones. And he has a friend who lives about a mile and a half away, which is fairly close.

SPEAKER_03 32:55

Keep talking. I'm gonna make seat. Check that battery.

SPEAKER_04 32:58

And they have a shared love of fishing. And uh our son Clark especially has a shared Are you gonna cut that out with your giant face in the video? Our son especially has a shared love of um doing things by himself and having freedom. And he has an electric bike independence, yeah. He has has an especial love of independence, which is great. Yeah. So he'll be gone depending on my children. And we'll give my children. But because we have this era of cell phones where we should know where our children are all all the time, it is a it makes me a little nervous, even though no one knew where I was until I was about thirty.

SPEAKER_03 33:38

So thirty? Yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_04 33:42

I mean, we had cell phones, but we didn't really keep 'em. I didn't even sleep with a cell phone in my bedroom until we moved here from Columbus. I would plug it into the kitchen and be like, well, hope nobody needs me until the next day.

SPEAKER_03 33:56

Um so we want to talk about summer of like So the Yeah, so that's where I got the idea.

SPEAKER_04 34:00

Uh uh kind of back to the analog days.

SPEAKER_03 34:03

I don't remember the topic of the last one exactly, but I know we talked about well, we talked about Neo Geo.

SPEAKER_04 34:08

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 34:09

We talked about going to the arcades.

SPEAKER_04 34:11

Yeah, I think we that one was kind of like, what do we what do kids do? What that they can't do, that they don't do anymore. That was kind of what it was. Okay. Then we had another one. I what was our other one about?

SPEAKER_03 34:22

Man, we do a lot of nostalgia stuff.

SPEAKER_04 34:24

That's only a third one. I just can't remember what the other one's about.

SPEAKER_03 34:27

Nah. I gotta consult. I gotta make the Jeffries data sheet answer this kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_04 34:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:33

That's gonna be phase two. We can go in a really good question.

SPEAKER_04 34:36

Ask it a question. Go for it. Alright, so do you want to just follow this format that I sent to you? Did you write did you type up some answers?

SPEAKER_03 34:44

I did. So yeah, I just took like very brief notes.

SPEAKER_04 34:46

So we're talking summer in the nineties.

SPEAKER_03 34:48

So it's like 94, 96?

SPEAKER_04 34:50

Sure, any any time. I mean, I had some of my summer in the nineties was I was pretty much alone from about 80 95 on, 94 maybe. My mom went back to work, so I didn't I was like definitely alone during the day. My sister, if she was still living at home, had a job. So and my dad, of course, was at work. So I was this is big alone time for me forever. Until I got a job but was still alone. So when I think about summer nostalgia, I think about activities where I was pretty much just kind of hanging out or scheming to get with friends, but is that where all the book reading came from? Yes, I have that's noted later.

SPEAKER_03 35:31

It's not featured anywhere in mind.

SPEAKER_04 35:33

Alright, I want to know. So this is this first set of questions is about summer mornings.

SPEAKER_03 35:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 35:38

All right, tell us, Rob.

Summer Mornings And Daily Routines

SPEAKER_04 35:40

Well, the first question is actually what's the first thing you wanted to do when you woke up? But my first question is actually, what time did you get up when you were summer?

SPEAKER_03 35:46

I I slept in pretty late.

SPEAKER_04 35:48

Like 10, 11?

SPEAKER_03 35:49

Like I I don't remember exactly like when I shifted into what I would consider very late now.

SPEAKER_04 35:54

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:55

Not not college late, not like 3.30.

SPEAKER_04 35:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:58

I was talking to uh Aaron about that uh at where Clark slept over.

SPEAKER_04 36:03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 36:04

And I he said he's like, because they slept like 11. 11. When you got there to pick up, unless it's in like college, like 4 30 late. He's like, like, is it October late? Like, yes, we went to the safe school.

unknown 36:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:20

Anyways. Um I yeah, I was probably I started pushing it. I probably was probably sleeping until 10-ish. Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_04 36:28

I was all I was solidly in bed till 10. And if I woke up before that, I felt like it was a crime to get uh out of bed before that.

SPEAKER_03 36:36

Yeah, I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_04 36:37

Uh so what'd you do first? What was your little what was your little morning routine? That's a popular topic, trending topic. Morning routine. It really depends.

SPEAKER_03 36:43

So it depends on the on the day. So I I got memories from you know going into eighth grade. I moved I moved after my seventh grade to a different, totally different city.

SPEAKER_04 36:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:55

So I didn't know anybody in the neighborhood.

SPEAKER_04 36:57

Is this when you moved to Cleveland?

SPEAKER_03 36:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 36:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:00

Didn't know anybody in the neighborhood. There were a lot of kids in the neighborhood. Uh ended up meeting quite a few, but just a totally different layout. This summers before we're in Columbus, and it was like a cul-de-sac.

SPEAKER_04 37:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:13

Were you head anywhere from, depending on how far you wanted to stretch the neighborhood? There were 20 kids. Yeah, I was gonna say 25, 30 kids down the street. Ages ranging from you know, I'd have some kids are like four years younger than me, but some that were a couple years old.

SPEAKER_04 37:27

You just play with whoever's outside.

SPEAKER_03 37:28

Yeah. Yeah. So you just kind of go knocking on doors.

SPEAKER_04 37:31

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 37:31

Depending on that.

SPEAKER_04 37:32

So you would get up and just hit the streets looking for friends.

SPEAKER_03 37:34

Yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_04 37:35

What about after you moved?

SPEAKER_03 37:37

Uh I also sometimes, if I was playing like a PC game or something, I might go hit that first. Yeah. Um after after I moved, man. I mean not much. Played video games. Uh Did you eat breakfast? Whoever's my brother was hanging out with. Because there my brother knew a bunch of kids because he was playing sports. Oh, okay. And I I wasn't, and there were just a bunch of kids in the neighborhood who were just his age, just worked out that way. So I'd hang out with them for a while. But your mom wasn't around. Yeah, she was around.

SPEAKER_04 38:11

She feeds you in the every morning?

SPEAKER_03 38:13

Yeah, I think I ate a lot of uh I think I ate a lot of carnation instant breakfast breakfast.

SPEAKER_04 38:19

I had a lot of that. I had a lot of that in the 90s.

SPEAKER_03 38:22

Yeah, well, we got like hundreds of our freezer was full of ice cream, drumsticks. I know I'm stepping on some of our questions.

SPEAKER_04 38:32

You can that's okay.

SPEAKER_03 38:33

I mean, we had drumsticks, push-ups, toll house cookies.

SPEAKER_04 38:39

Basically just all the processed junk of the 80s 90s.

SPEAKER_03 38:45

Well, no, very specific junk. Nestle novelty, yes, frozen novelty. Right. Individually, right? My dad was uh my dad sold it. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 38:55

And yeah, individual impulse buy soldiers.

SPEAKER_04 39:00

It's like when you're like checking out at the gas station type talking about like freezers or cold chain logistics and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 39:07

I just want I just want ice cream, please.

SPEAKER_04 39:10

I don't I don't want the ones that are in individual packages.

SPEAKER_03 39:13

So my dad sol my dad sold ice cream. Um he's an ice cream man. And anytime we went to like yeah, he's an ice cream doctor, legit. Look it up.

SPEAKER_04 39:22

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 39:23

Um anytime we went into like a gas station and there was an ice cream freezer, he'd he may like box stuff, like box the shelves a little bit, and maybe like ask him about how their sales are.

SPEAKER_04 39:35

I think people working behind the counter were like, I don't know, we're just trying not to get robbed overnight here. Like that's all we care about.

SPEAKER_03 39:42

You know how Clark gets so embarrassed when I talk to people.

SPEAKER_04 39:44

I mean that I this full circle moment.

SPEAKER_02 39:47

Why do you have to ask him all those questions? He doesn't care.

SPEAKER_04 39:49

Everywhere we go, my children are like, Does Dad know that person? This guy's fine. This guy's like 16.

SPEAKER_03 39:57

It's like That's my friend Jimmy. He does not care about any of this.

SPEAKER_04 40:01

I think the reason I stayed in bed so long was because I just liked being alone, and if I got up too early, there would still be people around that I would have to talk to and stuff. People, my mom and dad. Like the nicest people ever. But I would just go down and and hit a bowl of Lucky Charms.

SPEAKER_03 40:18

Oh, Lucky Charms?

SPEAKER_04 40:19

Yeah. Loved Lucky Charms. Or I just wouldn't eat anything until about 11 30. And then it was lipton noodle soup every single day.

SPEAKER_03 40:27

Whoa.

SPEAKER_04 40:28

See the first thing I ever learned how to cook.

SPEAKER_03 40:31

I the first thing I ever learned how to cook, I think I made a Belgian waffle one time.

SPEAKER_04 40:37

In a waffle maker? Yeah. With a mix, or did you like crack eggs?

SPEAKER_03 40:41

Probably. I made uh tapioca pudding.

SPEAKER_04 40:44

Whoa, just had water. That was a popular thing to have in your pantry back in the day. Tapioca? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:50

Pudding? I love that stuff.

SPEAKER_04 40:51

Yeah, that's good. What happened to that?

SPEAKER_03 40:52

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 40:52

We should see if they still sell it.

SPEAKER_03 40:54

Dude, what happened to shark bites? I wrote that down too. I freaking love shark bites.

SPEAKER_04 40:58

I bet you could go out and get some.

SPEAKER_03 41:00

No, I don't know on the internet.

SPEAKER_04 41:01

What about that store that just opened uh up by the route?

SPEAKER_03 41:05

Oh, you think they have shark bites?

SPEAKER_04 41:07

I don't know. They act like they're gonna look at acting like they might.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

See if there's a sign in the front. Yes, we have shark bites.

SPEAKER_04 41:12

Yes, we have shark bags.

SPEAKER_03 41:16

We used to make like great white bags. Yeah. We're all great whites. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_04 41:20

Uh a lot of these questions I feel like are really primarily relevant to you because I grew up in the middle of nowhere. And I yes I had a bike, but there was nowhere to go on it. Did you have a bike?

SPEAKER_03 41:29

Yeah, I did. Did you use it as a transportation? We had a specialized giant, maybe? Giant or specialized or I don't know. Uh I think it was a giant, giant rock hopper. I don't remember. But I got it, and I just remember my brother, my mom, mom or dad got it out of the back of the car.

SPEAKER_04 41:51

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 41:52

My brother had hopped on it and wrote off. I was like, ah.

SPEAKER_04 41:56

You hadn't even ridden it yet? That sounds that's a classic Joe story right there. Was he eating hot spicy wings too? The last of them. Joe.

SPEAKER_03 42:08

Oh Joe.

SPEAKER_04 42:09

Love you, Joe. Um, yeah, I I there was a couple boys that lived down the road, and I didn't really like they're a year younger than me. I knew a lot of kids from the bus, but nobody was close by. But these two boys were bus. The bus. Uh, so I did ride my bike down there a couple of times and we played quote, played football. I'm sure I just stood there and whined. I can't imagine getting real.

SPEAKER_03 42:29

Just by tackle?

SPEAKER_04 42:30

I don't remember. I do remember we we dropped a kid's the kid's football into like the drainage ditch. And when he was bending over to get the ball out of there, go on. I participated in kicking his butt so that his head got dunked in there.

SPEAKER_03 42:45

Wow, that's pretty sadistic.

SPEAKER_04 42:46

And then I felt pretty terrible about it.

SPEAKER_03 42:48

Pretty terrible.

SPEAKER_04 42:49

His name was Josh. Sorry, Josh. We were at his house though, so he went right on in and got cleaned up. It's fine. Um, but yeah, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_03 42:57

Yeah, I used to ride my bike. Uh not so

Bikes Neighbors And Outside Time

SPEAKER_03 43:00

much in um a little bit in Columbus. I rode to school for a little while.

SPEAKER_04 43:04

That's cute.

SPEAKER_03 43:04

I rode it uh I'd ride it into town from from my old neighborhood in uh Chagrin. We'd I'd go to like Revco and buy like a Oh my gosh, Revco.

SPEAKER_04 43:14

I used to eat lunch there every day. Like our son going to Dollar General School, spending people just randomly giving him money to buy things there. Strangers.

SPEAKER_03 43:26

That's so weird.

SPEAKER_04 43:27

It is weird. I just I mean, it's funny because it's like that's a that's a Joe Shucraft thing right there that our son inherited from your brother. But it's also like if you're an adult, you should think about giving a kid money in a store.

SPEAKER_03 43:39

There is a perk. We'll come back to that in a second, but there are there are some like RPGs and stuff where you could shirt you can pick like low key perks for your character.

SPEAKER_04 43:49

Where people just give you money.

SPEAKER_03 43:50

And there'll be stuff like uh occasionally a stranger will come to help you.

SPEAKER_04 43:53

We're all just in a Clark video game. We're NPCs in Clark's video game.

SPEAKER_03 43:58

Like Joe Joe and Clark both. Every now and then somebody will invite you to backstage passes.

SPEAKER_04 44:05

Pretty regularly though, like way more like uh than the odds would suggest.

SPEAKER_03 44:12

I have benefited from from many of those. I'm not saying don't complain.

SPEAKER_04 44:15

Yeah, I'm not saying don't like help a kid out, looks hungry and poor, but like our kid is wearing clean clothes.

SPEAKER_03 44:20

Totally fine.

SPEAKER_04 44:20

Don't brand name everything. He doesn't need your five dollars to buy shredded beef jerky to pretend it's you know tobacco. Or a golf bag. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:34

Or like he goes in, like hustles uh like video or baseball card conventions, like I'll trade you this. I think it's great.

SPEAKER_04 44:45

You know, I was trying to give hope to somebody today because they were talking about how they feel like the kids today just don't have any idea what it's like to like be in the world. I'm like, I gotta say, not that my kids don't spend a fair amount of time on screens. However, they both live to get with their friends. Like in real life, are trying to hang out with friends all the time.

SPEAKER_05 45:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:03

And like our daughter's playing music with her friends, our son is doing stuff in real world, like baseball cards, fishing. Yeah. So there's hope, guys. Yeah, there's a balance.

SPEAKER_03 45:15

You just gotta get him up, kick him, kick him out.

SPEAKER_04 45:17

Uh all right, back to you though.

SPEAKER_03 45:19

What was the question?

SPEAKER_04 45:20

Well, I hadn't asked it yet. Oh where'd you spend most of your day? Inside or outside?

SPEAKER_03 45:25

So I was gonna say is probably a I would say maybe outside, but probably not by much. Like, I used to go to my uh buddy Dan's house quite a bit. Okay. Like of all the kids in the neighborhood, he's probably he's he was like a year and a half, I think he was two grades younger than me. But he was a cenophile.

SPEAKER_04 45:43

Did he have like all the stuff?

SPEAKER_03 45:44

Yeah, his parents let him wash more. He had his he had an older brother.

SPEAKER_04 45:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:49

So there was always like this older brother was always playing like Stone Temple Pilots and Metallica.

SPEAKER_04 45:55

Yeah, this my friend's dad was a DJ for like local events, and so he had every single latest CD of everything. They had a pool, they had a hot tub, they had a trampoline, they had a walkout basement, like you know, ferrets and parrots, and we would like ferrets and parrots, and we would drink Coca-Cola for breakfast. They had Dalmatians, they had everything.

SPEAKER_03 46:18

Anything else?

SPEAKER_04 46:20

They had uh they were the first people I ever rode in a car that had tea tea tops? Is that how you say it?

SPEAKER_03 46:25

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 46:26

Where you like you like physically have to take the windows out. Was that been a firebird or something like that?

SPEAKER_03 46:32

I don't know. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:34

But yeah, I saw when if I was my real goal when I was on the younger half of the 90s was just to get to Aaron's house. And then she lived in a neighborhood. So there were kids to play with.

SPEAKER_03 46:45

So it was like getting dropped off at like the mall or something or something. Um what was your what what was the last question?

SPEAKER_04 46:57

Where'd you spend most of your time in the house? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:58

So I so I play, we'd sit there and I I'd spend days playing like Genesis in like a cool basement. Like moms would kick us out eventually. But I'd watch, you know, we'd watch a movie. Gosh, I just remember beating like Tecmo Super Bowl on the Genesis, NBA Jam, like the played the crap out of Mortal Kombat too. Like we would just play Mortal Kombat. That's right, honey.

SPEAKER_04 47:25

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 47:26

The uh movie came out around that time too.

SPEAKER_04 47:28

Um did you and your and your siblings hang out? Did you hang out with Joe? Yeah. I know Julia was kind of like a bigger one.

SPEAKER_03 47:34

Yeah, Julia and I was 80s.

SPEAKER_04 47:37

But um Yeah, my sister's gonna hang out with the Joe.

SPEAKER_03 47:40

So yeah, I did in effect hang out with her.

SPEAKER_04 47:43

I had we used to play with the hose a lot. Did you play with the hose? Um, I earliest hose memories.

SPEAKER_03 47:55

I played do you want me to answer that? Yeah. Um I played with a hose as long as it took to fill up water balloons and super soakers.

SPEAKER_04 48:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:05

Uh we used to have like huge super soaker wars, like 50s and hundreds and two hundreds, and wow. We just play all throughout the they're like super soaker 50. Oh, yeah. Super soaker 200 was like a backpack version.

SPEAKER_04 48:17

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 48:18

And we go on like the woods and like we play a capture the flag. We just go with these huge epics.

SPEAKER_04 48:23

We just, yes. Did you write that down?

SPEAKER_03 48:25

Uh yeah. It's somewhere in there.

SPEAKER_04 48:27

I'm jumping around a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 48:28

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_04 48:29

Um we used to do my sister used to make me do Doubledare. Remember Doubledare?

SPEAKER_03 48:35

The game show with Mark Summers?

SPEAKER_04 48:37

Yeah. Yeah. We would do that with the hose where we would have to sit in a chair and try to fill up a bowl with a hose from across the driveway or all hose-related obstacle, you know, type what what is that? Relay race type crap. Yeah. But she I always felt very much like she was just like trying things out on me.

SPEAKER_03 48:58

Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure she was. It definitely wasn't for you.

SPEAKER_04 49:02

Yeah. And also when was that on?

SPEAKER_03 49:04

So you guys could be closer.

SPEAKER_04 49:06

We're best friends now, so take that. When is Doubledare on television?

SPEAKER_03 49:12

Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 49:13

Was it on Nickelodeon?

SPEAKER_03 49:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:15

So it had to be. 90s.

SPEAKER_03 49:17

I mean, it's definitely after You Can't Do It On Television, which is like the OG slime show. Uh oh, I'd say mid early to mid-90s.

SPEAKER_04 49:26

Did you drink out of the hose?

SPEAKER_03 49:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:28

Oh yeah. Did you I had a friend whose mom would not let us drink out of the hose because she said there was I don't know, heavy metals or something in it. It's probably true. And then heavy metal hose.

SPEAKER_03 49:39

There's just boobs everywhere. Did you ever see the heavy metal, the uh movie?

SPEAKER_04 49:44

No.

SPEAKER_03 49:44

Oh watch it sometime.

SPEAKER_04 49:46

And then she also, the same mom, also said that we shouldn't play in the mud because there was like bacteria in the mud that would make us sick. And I was just like, this is a person also. Well, I actually had a lot of fun at that house, but there were some one-off weird rules like that.

SPEAKER_03 50:06

I had a friend whose mom did not like it when I spit. I used to spit a lot.

SPEAKER_04 50:10

Ew. I don't like that either. I'm that mom.

SPEAKER_03 50:12

I'm ooing the.

SPEAKER_04 50:13

I thought you were ooing that the spitting is disgusting.

SPEAKER_03 50:19

It is.

Water Balloons And Teenagers Chase

SPEAKER_03 50:20

She was she was pretty cool though. It was um Oh, dang it. Oh, water balloons. That's what I want to talk about. We uh we got in some trouble with water balloons.

SPEAKER_04 50:30

What'd you do?

SPEAKER_03 50:31

Just breaking tail light.

SPEAKER_04 50:32

Um, oh my gosh, what was inside your water balloons?

SPEAKER_03 50:35

Water.

SPEAKER_04 50:36

Heavy water? Heavy metals? Was it from the hose?

SPEAKER_03 50:39

It's heavy metals. There was also some, I think some bacteria got in there.

SPEAKER_04 50:43

It really increased the atomic weight of the water balloon.

SPEAKER_03 50:47

So uh no, but like we put a uh a water balloon through a um garage door. Like boom, right through the garage door.

SPEAKER_04 50:58

What was a garage door made out of cardboard?

SPEAKER_03 51:00

Well, if you shoot if you shoot it just right. Well, just you know, like twenty feet away from from it. That thing flies.

SPEAKER_04 51:11

What were you shooting it out of?

SPEAKER_03 51:13

Uh those giant three-man launchers?

SPEAKER_04 51:15

Oh, you were just throwing Oh no, no, no, no. No, no. So this is more like projectile adjacent.

unknown 51:22

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:23

So that was going that was going on like broad daylight. Like we would do the dumbest stuff. With just launching it launching freaking a car would drive by and we would just launch a balloon at them.

SPEAKER_04 51:36

Like Can you imagine me as a mom back then? Because I I think I was born in the correct time.

SPEAKER_03 51:41

Like no one was like, what if we hit it? What if we hit the car?

SPEAKER_04 51:45

Well, I mean, where were anyone's parents?

SPEAKER_03 51:47

And then we broke the taillight. Everybody's just like, whoops. Oh yeah, that's right. Were they We're shooting water balloons at cars?

SPEAKER_04 51:53

What now did they stop the car and then did they yell at you? Did you have to go find your mom and dad?

SPEAKER_03 51:59

Uh it wasn't my house.

SPEAKER_04 52:00

You're like, see ya guys, we gotta go home.

SPEAKER_03 52:02

Got away with that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:04

Um was that in Columbus or Cleveland?

SPEAKER_03 52:06

Uh Columbus. There were like older brothers involved in that one.

SPEAKER_04 52:10

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_03 52:10

There was also like we had these uh older, stronger boys. There's these, we always we called them the teenagers. All right, so we're like elementary school to middle school teenagers. There's these guys, so there's teenagers that lived across the street from us. Who we just do they have parents? No, they're just this horde. Horde of teenagers. This nest of them.

SPEAKER_04 52:32

Um like a vampire coven.

SPEAKER_03 52:34

We're incredibly intimidated.

SPEAKER_04 52:35

Oh, sorry, witch's coven. Sorry. It was a teenage witch coven.

SPEAKER_03 52:40

That's never mind. So uh the uh what was that show? Uh The Charmed? Yeah. It's not a teenage witch coven, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 52:49

I I was thinking of um the 90s The Craft that movie.

SPEAKER_03 52:54

Oh, with uh what's her face from Waterboy?

SPEAKER_04 52:57

With a big mouth.

SPEAKER_03 52:58

Yeah, yeah. She was also in uh Return to Oz. That's a freaky movie. We should watch that sometime. Okay. So these guys, the teenagers. We were I don't know if this is the so there's the there are these these kids who lived across the street from our neighborhood, and we just referred to them as the teenagers. We could swear they're always up to no good. Their friends were coming and out all the time. They were also teenagers. My friend Joey and I, and and this little kid named David, who was like Joey and I were like sixth or seventh grade. David had to have been like three.

SPEAKER_00 53:35

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 53:35

He wasn't all he was like five, maybe. For some reason he was hanging around us, and we were just we were just waving to cars, just being stupid. Just like waving to people as they try by. Teenagers come by flick us off. Joey gets out on the street, flicks them off. No, my buddy. Oh and so it's like you know, car stops. Car stops. Oh, where you're like, go, go, go! I don't know if Joe was with maybe Joe was with me too. You're done. David was definitely with me, but yeah, my Joe. Stops, brake lights, uh, reverse lights come on, backs up, we're like, crap, we start running. Um, David's crying. The baby? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:21

What a loser. What a baby. I just I threw him at the car.

SPEAKER_03 54:27

We're sorry. All you have to do, you don't you don't have to be the fastest. You just gotta be faster than a baby. So uh So this guy follows us in. Uh follows follows him to to my house. Joey and I, we so we I'll run a car.

unknown 54:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 54:54

I'll run a parked car.

SPEAKER_03 54:56

No, no. He turned around, he followed us. He was chasing us in our neighborhood. Um I didn't know this guy. I we ran into my house. He gets out, we're like in the house. I um get a BB gun. I'm just like loading up a 760 pump master, like this guy comes over. I'm gonna shoot this guy.

SPEAKER_04 55:18

This is weird. This is the OG father protector coming out.

SPEAKER_03 55:22

So I'm loading up this gun. I just would have he would have been who knows. Can you imagine? I'm so glad my mom came home because he starts walking up the drive. I don't know what he was planning, but I was going to shoot him. Like, I was gonna unload all this dickhead. Excuse me, I probably shouldn't say it.

SPEAKER_04 55:39

Earmuffs.

SPEAKER_03 55:40

Yeah, adult family earmuffs.

SPEAKER_04 55:41

It matters if you say it after.

SPEAKER_03 55:43

So but also he would have just beaten the crap out of me. Like I would have it would have been such an ugly scene. Like Joey, Joey would have had to jump in, Dave would have put another baby to throw in. But my mom's always somebody younger. Pulls in right, right as he's walking up. Oh my god. The dude just like turns around, runs in his um in his car, slams the door, throws it in reverse, like around my mom. My mom was like, What was going on? Like, ah, teenager came came. Joey flipped him off and we chased him. That's why I've always hated teenagers.

SPEAKER_04 56:21

So I still this is a hard time in our life because we have two of them in our own house right now. Just always. Well, that was.

SPEAKER_03 56:28

Dad, why do you always carry that BVI go? Just case a teenager stuff. Just case you try to chase me.

SPEAKER_04 56:34

Oh, that's great.

SPEAKER_03 56:35

So yeah, there's my teenagers.

SPEAKER_04 56:37

Did you have any must-watch TV shows? Since you were home all day? Prices right?

SPEAKER_03 56:41

During the day, I've I mean I've always wound up watching Prices Right at some point.

SPEAKER_04 56:46

Did you ever watch talk shows?

SPEAKER_03 56:48

Not really.

SPEAKER_04 56:49

I had to be at the pool at when I was a lifeguard at like 1145. And if Julie, my friend Julie was also a lifeguard, if she was working the same day, I would go to her house first and we would like catch most of an episode of like Jerry Springer or something like that, and then go to work. That was our TV routine.

SPEAKER_03 57:07

I feel like I've seen a fair amount of talk shows. Just I've I don't think I've ever made time to watch one.

SPEAKER_04 57:13

Um you didn't like meet up with your friend just to watch it before work.

SPEAKER_03 57:18

I did not.

SPEAKER_04 57:20

So you watched a lot of the Springer when you were Or sometimes if I couldn't get there, then we would call each other and watch it on the phone.

SPEAKER_03 57:26

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

Yeah. The same show.

SPEAKER_03 57:28

When would this have been?

SPEAKER_04 57:29

I had a driver's license, so 99.

SPEAKER_03 57:31

Oh, so we're going okay. I I've been mainly staying in the middle school years.

SPEAKER_04 57:35

You can be anywhere in the 90s.

SPEAKER_03 57:37

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 57:37

Because for me, that's still summer.

SPEAKER_03 57:39

I haven't talked about teenage years at all.

SPEAKER_04 57:41

Oh, okay. It's fine. We don't, you know, you just talk about what you planned on talking about. Well, because the question was any must-watch shows.

SPEAKER_03 57:47

Well, I was gonna say um SNCC on Nickelodeon.

SPEAKER_04 57:51

I don't have cable.

SPEAKER_03 57:52

Uh Ren and Stepe. Yeah. I used to love Ren and Steppy.

SPEAKER_04 57:56

I I watched a lot of PBS. Because we didn't have cable.

SPEAKER_03 58:00

Yeah, you were going to like Ghost Rider.

SPEAKER_04 58:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:02

What else did they have on there? Uh Arthur?

SPEAKER_04 58:04

Arthur, uh, Wishbone.

SPEAKER_03 58:07

Yeah, my brother loved that. I it kind of aged out of it, I think.

SPEAKER_04 58:10

Yeah. I I never really loved Wishbone. I think my sister liked it when she was going to college. Laura? Comment below if you watched Wishbone. What's the story? Wishbone. Oh, Laura. I used to draw a lot with Mark Kissler, the Imagination Station. You want me to sing you that entire theme? Sure, yeah, please. Drop in your pencils, grab some favor. Get ready. It's almost time. I've got to show you that about the stuff.

SPEAKER_03 58:30

I like that little gritted teeth, really.

SPEAKER_04 58:36

Oh shoot. Shooting stars and kangaroos in the imagination.

SPEAKER_03 58:44

That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 58:45

That's a great song.

SPEAKER_03 58:47

It's pretty good. Yeah, I I that's a per it's a perfect song. Oh, by the way, the ps uh strong songs.

SPEAKER_04 58:54

He has a He's a Mark Kessler theme song?

SPEAKER_03 58:57

But he can't he talks about theme songs on an episode. And he goes into like hey guys, this is Rob Shoecraft of The Audience Will Like It, Fame and Fortune. I just wanted to tell you and apologize that the audio quality is about to get real rough. Thanks for sticking with the show. We had to switch to a boom mic uh backup. Anyways, thanks for listening. Uh we'll fix it for next week. Bye, I love you. Songs that describe the show. I mean, they go to different kinds of theme songs.

SPEAKER_04 59:30

I like that too. Um, alright.

SPEAKER_03 59:32

I'm gonna do a little battery high. We're good.

SPEAKER_04 59:34

It's also it's been an hour, just so you know.

SPEAKER_03 59:36

Okay, we got 10 more minutes and then close out a loafful.

Snacks Soda And Summer Sense Memory

SPEAKER_04 59:40

Um, yeah, let's do it. Let's talk food. Let's go back to shark bites. Summer foods from the 90s.

SPEAKER_03 59:46

Hmm.

SPEAKER_04 59:47

For me, uh, dove bars, ice cream bars, remember those?

SPEAKER_03 59:51

Yeah, those like seriously, I wasn't allowed to eat. That was Mars. Uh so I could not eat anything Mars. So it sounds great. Okay, and look, it is great. If you have limited ice cream, here's the thing. Like, the Nestle ice cream was great. Dropsticks are great. It was. It was fine. Wasn't upset. Wasn't upset about it, but when you can't, when you're not allowed to have Hershey's or Mars, you really want that. The Snickers.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:23

Have you ever had a dove chocolate bar? Um the magnums that are out now are basically.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:28

Yes, oh yeah, I've had them today.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:29

It's a great version of that.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:30

Yeah. Yeah, well now it's Gene Lever, that's different.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:32

So you can eat it now.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:36

But we like the ice cream man that you wrote down, like, did you ever did the ice cream man ever jumped?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:41

Never once a single time in my life did I ever see an ice cream truck around here.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:45

Well, I it's not that I wasn't allowed to have to go to the ice cream man, but it was like Ben spend your own money on the crap. I mean it's a competitor.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:55

Oh my god. Bruce, are you listening?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:58

I don't think he ever actually gave me crap about the ice cream man specifically. Like, I don't think he ever said don't eat ice cream.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:04

Don't go to the ice cream.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:05

Go to the ice cream man, but it's like it's a waste. To his point, we have so much ice cream in the fridge. Freezer, why are you going out there? It's I mean, I wouldn't say the same thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:13

My grandpa used to deliver things too.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:14

I think deep down he's just like giving a scent to that guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:17

Yeah. It it served a couple purposes. My grandpa in St. Louis, they used he delivered ice cream, and so his freezer was always full of like back stock, like stuff that would be expired that he would take off the shelves. I don't I don't really understand how that all works, but it would end up in his deep freezing basement. And if you weren't too scared to go down there, because of all the terrible stories he could tell you about escaped prisoners in his basement, then you could go down and have you help yourself to whatever was down there. And there would be ice cream sandwiches, like every kind of random ice cream flavor, like I swear was there black walnut ice cream?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:51

He used to used to talk about black walnut.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:52

Yeah, okay, that's good. And there he also had cherry ice cream, which is cherry stuff. You've been eaten a single cherry that I painstakingly seeded.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:03

I beaded. Yeah, okay, so I do I want to save them. I don't want to just sit there and house them. I would rather I also like cherry-flavored things.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:13

Yeah, yeah, you're kind of a synthetic fruits person.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:16

What does that mean? You like I'm a synthetic fruits person.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:19

Like you like grape stuff, but I never see you eating a grape. You like cherry stuff, but you don't eat cherries. I feel like that's pretty well. Hit the nail on the head. You're a synthetic fruits parts. I like synthetic parts. I didn't know that's what it was. It says I like synthetic parts.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:39

I like that. I do like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:42

Um I ate a crap ton. I mean, nice shout out to my mom and dad for literally getting me whatever I wanted. I think my mom was just like, What will you eat? I will buy it for you. Because otherwise I didn't, I was very picky. And I would get, I would eat like that whole row of Oreos. You know. That was my day. That was what I ate while she was at work.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:06

Yeah. Um, little Debbie. My dad, his car was always littered with gas station cake stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:14

Whoa, remember King Dongs?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:17

That was a staple.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:19

You know, I'm not a big uh the chocolate stuff's fine, but I like synthetic fruits. Synthetic fruits. Synthetic creams.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:30

There's definitely synthetic creams in King Dongs.

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Synthetic uh grains. So oatmeal cream pilots, definitely. Right up there for you? Yeah. Um what about pizza rolls? Flavorizes pizza rolls.

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Uh that was the later 90s, but I I ate a lot of pizza rolls.

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I pretty much didn't. I mean, I know I ate a lot of chips.

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He wasn't a big chip person.

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I didn't need a lot of uh I didn't need a lot of stuff that I had to make.

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Huh. You've really turned over a new leaf though, just so you guys know. He makes things now.

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Not just synthetic fruits.

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Uh, what about drinks?

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I drink a lot of soda. Mountain Dews or Cola.

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We had Coke.

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Well, I drink Mountain Dew whenever we never bought it, but whenever we went out to like a restaurant, like Pizza Hut or something, I drink like 17 lemon.

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And they just keep pouring it in there. Now I'm like, like, we take our 14-year-old. I'm like, you can have one lemonade. We're just the best. Um I we had it all.

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Oh juice juicy juice.

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We never had that.

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Well, much. Again, so Libby's was a Nestle. Nestle's, yeah, Nestle owned company.

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Subsidiaria. Subsidiary.

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Gallons of Libby's juicy juice. Um like you could get it. If you if you wanted diarrhea, all you could do is just ghost it.

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You could get it. Ice cream and Libby's juice. If you were lactose intolerant. Like my brother.

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Who had diarrhea all the time.

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Well, there was this soda that I think was local to St. Louis called Vest.

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Yeah.

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And my grandparents always had that. And they had every flavor of sugary junk under the sun.

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Nice.

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Every flute fruit flavor, every soda flavor. They would always have it when we were there. And then when they would visit us, they would usually bring a case of it. Because it would be like you could mix and match. They would be sold as individual cans. And you could get a flat of like 24 cans, like X amount, you know. And so they would always bring that.

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My grandparents my both my grandmas used to cook a bunch of, they used to bake a bunch of cookies and cakes. Paddle cakes and chocolate cakes.

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And yeah.

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Oh man. But also like uh toasted strudels and honey buns.

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Toaster strudels.

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I used to tell me my my grandma BB used to make uh butter biscuits with tomatoes.

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Somebody was talking today about eating mayonnaise tomato sandwiches. They're good. And I was just like, there is nothing about that I want to eat. The tomatoes.

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She's always make them with biscuits. If you're making homemade biscuits butter, that's different.

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We're talking about wonder bread and mayonnaise.

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She had this friend named Anne.

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Uh-huh.

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He used to make rolls and we always call like hey, there's Anne's rolls.

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Anne's rolls.

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We like always eat Ann's rolls. But yeah, my my grandma, she used to make, we'd go swimming in her pool, and then we come in and she'd make just like whatever lunch we wanted to eat. And if you swim in for like six hours straight, you just you could eat. You could eat that. You just devour the whole kitchen, but she would just keep it going. So yeah, a lot of good memories eating out my uh huh?

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What's funny? What are you laugh? Should we talk about love? Wait, wait, wait. Sure, let's move right on.

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Oh right, wait, I just had there was like one random set of questions.

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There's a ton of questions.

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I know, but here's something I wanted to do too.

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Um I wanted to get I'm just gonna have to talk about teenagers, okay? Let's clean it up for it.

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Alright, okay. Just these I'm gonna ask you these questions and and you have to answer them, okay?

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Oh, okay.

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Uh they're on here, so you probably have answers. It's it's the little details section.

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I might have thought that I might have thought we won't we won't make it to that far.

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Well, okay, then just go with your gut.

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Okay.

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What's a sunscreen smell like?

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Uh tromical uh waterloo.

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Okay. What about the inside of your parents' car smell like in July?

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Depends on which parent.

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Oh, pick one and say the answer.

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Uh my dad's car always smelled new.

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Because it was.

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Because it wasn't. He tells cars. He takes good care of his stuff. Um, and then my mom's car smelled like whatever we just ate in the car.

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My all I can remember is my dad's car smelling. Sorry, my the van that we used to have one of those. I don't know what it was. I have to ask my parents. It was white, and we used it to pull the sailboat, so it had a diesel engine. And it smelled like hot vinyl. Maybe. It was wong conversion pan.

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Oh, well.

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But it was an older model, it didn't have like fancy stuff in it. My dad built bed sheets in it for us to lay down.

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Gotcha. Nice.

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Hot plastic and vinyl.

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Okay.

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That's what an old July van smells like. Alright. What sounds instantly take you back to summer? 90s summer. Kids summer.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:51

Man. I would say uh the crow soundtrack.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:56

Oh wow.

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Um, and fireworks. I used to love like black hats and like any like firecrackers.

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Like your own. And they're not like going to the park and it doesn't sound like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:10

No, no, I like throwing stuff in the seal and just making the biggest noise you possibly could.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:14

Um, mine was my mom and dad in the kitchen underneath my bedroom in the mornings. My mom would usually be on the phone with like her parents, and I could hear them pouring coffee and talking and stuff. That was very nostalgic.

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Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:27

Alright, uh, what clothing screams summer 1995?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:36

White kids with sag pants?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:38

Oh, that seems later. Well what about starter? What about oh uh well yeah. The starter jackets.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:44

Yeah, there's tons of starter stuff. Uh how about pumps?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:47

Bike shorts.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:47

We bought pumps. Oh, yeah. I think some pumps. Yeah, bike shorts.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:51

Uh alright. What do kids today not get to experience? And then we'll move on to Loveful. That's my final question.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:58

What do kids today do you have something?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:00

I do.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:01

What?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:02

Boredom.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:03

Yeah. I think that's what I have.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:05

It's existential.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:06

Uh effort effortless active daily living, but we already discussed. That's that's still a thing, too.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:11

Uh when you're in a neighborhood, it's just much easier to be active. Right. And uh the feeling of being pumped for a trip to go rent a game or a movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:21

Yes. Not just having it like, oh, these 50 games are like the internet's out.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:26

Forcing yourself to play it if it even if it sucks.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:28

Yes. Uh how many times did I watch a VHS? Like the 90s Disney movies? I probably watched those on a repeat.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:36

I didn't, but I couldn't.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:37

But I mean, like, I didn't have cable or anything, so we would just watch. I would like literally lay on the family room floor for hours.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:42

Well, we go on road trips and we drive double. Well, I mean, it was like a TV with a cigarette lighter adapter, couldn't deal a song of his own limousine of some kind. Yeah, that was pretty cool. But we would buy, we

Lovefool Origins And Album Context

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would move on.

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That's that's cool. Alright, love cool. Speaking of the 90s.

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Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:06

Yes. So if you ever saw Romeo and Juliet with Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes, as Mick mentioned. May and baby John Linguazamo. We don't know. We can't find out.

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Um that soundtrack from that movie.

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Did it was pretty popular when I was in eighth grade, eighth, ninth grade.

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And John Leguizamo wasn't.

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He was.

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Romeo and Jew.

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Who do you play?

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Mr.

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Capulet.

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I don't I don't I don't know. I'm I'm in a I'm in a place it doesn't say.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:37

Ah.

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Do you want would you like me to find out?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:39

No, I don't I don't care. You're the one who keeps bringing it up.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:42

Go ahead and keep talking.

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Ceasing. Key Tom. Uh and that it had that soundtrack was an awesome soundtrack, and I it was exposed to a lot of music that I'd never heard before. That would be closer to like, you know, rock or metal-ish punk type music.

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But that guy.

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I don't know.

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So he's got a soul patch?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:05

Oh, he's like one of the he was like a friend of Tibetan.

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Tyball, yeah.

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Um, but that soundtrack really opened up my world. Thanks.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:16

You're the one that was pushing me on the Lake was almost anyway, and that song was in one of the only ones.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:23

It was really that singable.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:24

Luffle. Mm-hmm. What else was on that?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:28

Um, that one. It's like a it's not Deseray. Is it Deseray? I don't know. I don't know. That was not a good It's the scene where they're looking at each other through the format. They're looking at each other through the aquarium on either side of the aquarium. It's like an RB.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:47

I never saw the movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:48

What? Did you watch it?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:50

No. It just wasn't. It's like one of the reasons I didn't really convince myself I didn't like this song. It's like it was super cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:58

Pretty piece of flesh song. Yeah, pretty piece of flesh. It was like kind of a sort of sort of sort of. Yeah, so it's like, no, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:08

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:08

You should listen to the soundtrack sometime.

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Okay, check it out.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:11

Uh, and then Love Fool was very poppy in comparison to the rest of that stuff. But then as we came to find out, thank you to Strong Song, it was really poorly surgically removed from an album. Where it made a lot of more sense on that. I did listen to the album, did you?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:31

Uh I listened to a little bit of it, yeah. Yeah, did you like it? Yeah. Um what's it called?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:36

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:37

First Band on the Moon.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:38

Yeah, I like the album title. I do.

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And I I did like it's not. There's some stuff I really liked. Um I love also just the concept of it. I love finding out that these like half the folks in this band were in metal bands. And that like this whole album is like this dark, kinda creepy, surrealish kinda. Yeah. Um, which is all a lot of different genres, like really good. Like they're they're quite good.

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Yeah.

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Uh Swedish band. And a lot of the songs on this are about just screwed up relationships.

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Yeah.

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And um.

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And as a 13-14-year-old, I felt that hard. I thought I was really going to be able to do that.

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How hard did you feel?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:28

Super hard. As hard as I could.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:36

Oh, good one, honey. Um, a lot of whispering, a little a little too much whisper singing on this album.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:42

Oh, I could see that. You hating that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:45

I I don't, I just can't. It kills it for me. It could be otherwise good songs, I just can't get past the whisper singing.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:50

Yeah, I don't love whisper singing. I like to think of it as just kind of a light little voice.

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Oh, maybe I'll try that. Just reframe it.

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Uh that's all I have to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:02

What's the band I was just I just asked you about them? Ark um the female lead, uh, Ark I don't know.

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Oh, Arc Iris.

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Arc Iris, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was picking up, there's a little a couple of the songs had an Arc Iris feel to them. Um I I liked it. It was it I'll tell you what.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:22

Avant garde heavy metal. What um this Loveful?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:28

Some of it was. Yeah. Yeah. It it's a really cool album. If you like Love Fool, you should check it out. You should also, like I said, check out that Strong Songs uh episode on it. But I l I I really liked this song. I didn't know I liked this song until we until we I tried to cover it. Because I I realized how shallow I was. Like I I was I was totally throwing this song out because of Romeo and Juliet, which I also haven't seen. It's doubly shallow. I didn't watch Titanic forever just because I was convinced it was Romeo and Juliet, basically. I'm like, I'm not interested in that movie.

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I mean, it's only a love story, but.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:06

Oh, yeah, but it's quite good.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:07

Well the Romeo and Juliet's it's it's great. I think it's great.

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I'll check it out.

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I mean they do, they speak it the actual play.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:15

Yeah, that's what I've that's what I've heard. I'm not a big Romeo and Juliet guy, but uh about Shakespeare guy. Maybe it's about really. I've read a lot of the stuff, but it was I was kind of made to through high school.

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Well, I like it because they put it in like, you know, a modern day, kind of a thug-ish. Like they're like kind of like mob families.

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Mm-hmm. But when they have guns and some of swords.

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Yeah.

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Gotcha. And John Lugazaba's in it.

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Yeah.

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I hear. That's what I've heard. We played as Tybalt. It's Tybalt.

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Tybald. Tybalt.

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So, um, playing this song though, I was uh I was like, man, this song is super jazzy. Like it's got a real samba feel to it. And I was just enjoying playing it. Uh and a lot of chords that I'm I had to get a bit more comfortable with, especially up higher on the neck. That kind of chromatic bass walk. Um, there's a lot of instruments going on in this song. They got a Rhodes organ.

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They got a lot going on.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:19

Yeah.

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We we toyed with the idea of getting the harp out, but I just know I just don't have if we could lay down tracks, I could do it, but I can't do all that at once.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:26

And the uh uh crap, we went and saw them one time. What's the band that does postmodern jukebox? Yeah. And their cover of it, did you see that?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:34

No.

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Oh, it's really good. She plays a harp.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:37

Oh my gosh!

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I thought that's where you got the inspiration.

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I just heard it.

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We didn't play, we didn't play with the harp, we talked about it. We played uh I just played guitar unless I sang it. Pretty pretty stripped down. There's an acoustic version of this that the cardigans do. I didn't love it. Whisper singing. Whisper singing. Yeah. But uh but they they did this thing, uh, he talks about it on Strong Songs, where the way they do the compression for and I beg and I beg, yeah, um, they kind of do this compression with the audio effect, so it sounds like she's contained. Uh-huh, and then it blows like a like an old-time radio. Yeah. And then it opens up, and you know what it reminded me of?

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What?

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An audio version of Frank Lloyd Wright. Oh my architecture when you go into the.

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Because we have a Frank Lloyd Wright episode.

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Oh my gosh.

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As evidenced by every word that's left Rob's mouth in this episode. The culture is high here.

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I'm gonna leave all that in. It's just gonna be dead air. Me shaking.

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And like occasionally me coughing because I can't breathe. And I have an inexplicable cough that never goes away.

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Oh, that's our battery done. Okay, we're gonna make it.

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Yeah, we are.

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Okay.

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Um we got about ten minutes left.

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Let me see what else I had to say about it.

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We got about ten whole minutes left.

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Do we really?

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Yeah.

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That is quite good. So, uh lovful. Yeah, said I was shallow. I said the old time radio. Um said I was shallow.

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Check. Now I'm not anymore because I said I was.

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I listened to some covers of it. Um You said that. I did?

SPEAKER_04 1:19:19

Did you have a cover award? Well, you said post-mortem jukebox, I guess. Sorry.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. I, you know, I I I don't know where I wrote it. I must not have copied it in there. Sorry, everybody. But um, yeah, I I wish I I you know, better light than never. But I just it's we it's weird to hear because it's not that I hadn't heard the song in a while. Well, this is just But I just do this association thing where I've always thought it was catchy.

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Yeah.

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But listening, forcing yourself to listen to it or to learn it. I know this is I always say the stupidest stuff that's obvious to anybody who's ever done Checked a book out from the library. Yeah. But uh when you're forced to learn a song, you are forced to listen to it. And I was like, this song is great.

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Yeah.

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And playing it on the guitar, I kind of I I really I'm I'm glad we played it the way we played it, where I just essentially corded it, but I kind of tried to do a little bit of stuff stuff here. Be heavy with the bass. Uh a little heavier with the percussion, kind of with my muting and whatnot. But I would have really liked to have played it kind of like we did Bathwater.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:33

Oh.

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Where a little more leady.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:36

I didn't play on that, did I?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:37

Yeah, you did. I did. You played guitar.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:39

Maybe I should have played on this one. Um I couldn't have.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:43

Why not?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:43

Because I don't know all these chords, and I can't like it.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:45

Oh, right. Well, well, tell me though, couldn't you play?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:51

I could play the root positions and all of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:53

Yeah, and won't it still sound okay if I'm if I'm adding the sevens? Yeah. Okay. Because this song has a ton of them.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:59

Yeah. And she's singing a lot of them as well. That very first note is a seven. That's why I was asking you what it was, because it's an A minor seven. And I was like, is this the is that a G?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:09

Yeah, that's why you're like, can you ring it out real open? That's why I've played it enough up higher on the neck or lower on the neck to really make sure I hit that open.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:18

If I had been playing the piano, I would have done the same for myself.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:21

Plus playing all those freaking bar chords. Like, there's there's certain chords, the bar chords in general don't bother me.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:28

Yeah, you make them look really easy.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:30

Playing the bar chords I'm not used to playing. Um, you know, it really makes it huge.

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New chord shapes.

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New chord shapes. Because there's something about it, even though it's not the barring that bothers, it's the it's the newness of it as well.

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It's the new motor pattern.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:44

Yeah, the new motor pattern. So there's a bit of that. So that I when you said to play the open, kind of an open A minor seven, I was like it just felt so good.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:56

Oh, you're more bored by it. No, to have the relief of my hand not cramping. Yeah, just too much.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:03

So just playing, yeah. Anyways, it's very, very specific weird guitar intermediate uh blues there. But um, no, I had a lot of fun playing. I would like to jam on this though. I think it's uh great damn. Um, do you want to talk about covers?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:21

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:22

Who do you want to who would you want to hear cover this song?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:24

Sorry if I say this person already, but I think I'm gonna like to hear Harry Styles covering.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:29

Have you? I don't think so.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:30

Have I not said Harry Styles before?

SPEAKER_03 1:22:31

I don't know. I've been hearing I've been hearing you listening to a fair amount of Harry Styles lately.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:35

Yeah, I think I might be catching up with the rest of the world. Oh yeah. Yeah.

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Is

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he put putting new stuff out or is he listening to Wildload Sugar High?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:44

Yeah, but I he does have new stuff. I mean he's a pretty he's got a pretty big following.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:49

I have heard what how would you would you say I've heard like four of his songs maybe?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:54

I don't know if you've even heard four of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:55

Three? I know I've heard a couple.

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Yeah.

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And I've liked I know I like two of them.

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Yeah.

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I don't remember what they were, but I I know there's two Harry Styles songs, and I was like, is this Harry Styles? Yeah. I like this.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:07

Yeah. So And I I like his look too. He dresses ridiculously.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:13

I don't I don't know his look.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:14

Oh, it's like Preppy he wears a lot of patterns and cuffs his pants.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:19

In my head, he's like a uh skinny version of Dustin from Stranger Things?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:24

No.

unknown 1:23:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:25

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:26

I don't think I know who he is.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:28

You should look him up and see if that matches that tracks. I don't think it does. He's not a square person either.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:34

Does he does he look like uh Does he look like Dustin from Stranger Things?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:41

Well. Bless you. Yeah, McDagger had a baby, perhaps? Uh are we getting a little closer? Maybe okay, hang on.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:48

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:50

Let's see.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:50

Who do you want to hear cover while you look that up?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:52

Oh, I put uh KK slider. Um hang on a second. What did I say?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:59

The dog from the dog from uh Animal Crossing? That sings in in computer bebops.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:14

I don't know why.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:16

I was thinking today we might need to reinvent these questions, and I feel more strongly about it than ever. Hang on a second.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:22

Harry Style. Is it style or styles?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:24

Styles.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:26

Alright. Yeah, that's exactly what he looks like.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:29

He does not look like Dustin from Stranger Things.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:32

Mixed with McDagger.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:35

You know what he looks like? He looks like the uh the the he looks like Dustin from Stranger Things mixed with Will's older brother, the Stoner, and Stranger Things. That's what he looks like. Uh Jonathan? Yeah. That's what he looks like.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:49

That's true. He does look more like Jonathan and Dustin.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:52

But you gotta mix Dustin and don't.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:55

Yeah, you have to.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:56

You have to.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:56

Um, no, I said uh not it's not KK Slider. I did write KK Slider down. I don't remember why. I'm not sure. But um I would like to hear it.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:06

But uh people, people, people um Stan Getz and Charlie Bird.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:15

They've got a Sab album, uh Antonio turned me on to that album.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:20

And uh so you got a lot of great guitar and a lot of great saxophone.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:26

So no singers.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:27

No, I'd like to hear an instrumental. Like a true, like some Sama greats going at this song just going off on the side.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:33

It's uh I like that approach.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:34

I like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:35

Um what we got B-side?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:38

B-side.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:38

You're not gonna say uh hair style song, are you?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:40

No, they're not. It's gonna be worse. You have to go first though.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:47

I'm gonna go with uh you won't know mine, I'm sure. Oh. Well you'll know mine. Uh Self-Esteem by Offspring.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:57

Sing a little bit of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:58

Um just go with no self-esteem. Oh hey, yeah. Huh?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:09

You know it's all No, I don't think so. Okay. Uh drop this a little. Let's see. She's she's drunk drunk again to look at the score.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:18

Oh yeah, I do know.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:19

Um I may be dumb, but I'm not a dweed. I'm just a sucker with no self-esteem. That line, I always loved that song about that that um line when I was a kid. I was just like, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:32

That's how I felt a lot about something.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:34

It's just such a dirty, it's just such a dirty situation. But it is also a dirty situation than Loveful. I mean, this is a pretty screwed-up tale. Yeah. Honestly. This song's really screwed up.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:47

Well, I chose a Taylor Swift song. It's one of the ones I've heard that actually like, uh, that actually like life, not just like earworm like. It's called Lover.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:56

And it says, can we always be heads close dun dungeons? Was it head?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:09

Oh yeah. I think I recognize it's Scoopy. Uh Scoopy.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:13

The first lights, we can leave the Christmas lights on until January. But she's basically it's a love song, but if you take it and make it where you don't hear the reply, she could sound a little creepy like the Loveful Girl.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:26

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:27

Can we always be this close?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:29

You know it'd be uh another good one.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:31

What?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:31

Would uh been for use me.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:33

Oh, that's right. Yeah, we should have put that on there. What the heck's wrong with us?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:37

Hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:37

Did you have a soundtrack for it?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:40

I was trying to try to think, so you know, obviously Romeo and Juliet.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:43

Yeah, where'd you get that idea?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:44

Yeah, I know. But I was looking at other songs from uh visited you and that rate.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:48

It gave you a vision. He whisper singed in your ear while you were dreaming.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:57

He wouldn't.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:58

He would never.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:59

He gets he does he get. Smacked. Okay. Um, I was looking at other 1996 movies that were out at the same time. Romeo and Julia. We had Independence Day, Fargo. Fargo would be great if they played it with it put the what's the face of the chip or.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:18

I'm actually not sure I've seen Fargo.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:20

Ooh, we should watch that.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:21

It's really good. Oh, we gotta watch that movie. It's crazy. Is it a thriller? It's a thriller. Yes, it's a Cohen Brothers movie. It's really good. Yeah. We gotta watch, gotta watch Miller's Crossing, too.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:33

Okay. Okay. Uh Space Jam?

unknown 1:28:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:38

Pretty good in that.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:39

Between um Babs and Michael Jordan.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:43

Oh, did they have a little thing going on?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:46

Maybe she was maybe he was saying it.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:48

In the deleted scene.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:49

Yeah. He was singing it to her.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:50

He's like, Michael Jordan says to Babs. I promise I will never die. And then hilarity ensues. And Loveful plays in the background. That's it. There you go. I was gonna say Scream.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:04

Oh, I like Scream. That's that's my favorite one of yours.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:08

Let's go with Loveful. Maybe they could play while they're hacking poor old Drew Barrymore pieces.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:13

I had uh nothing, but I had since had some inspiration. Do you remember? Okay, you know like R.L. Stein Goosebumps books. Well, there was like a slightly older uh and his this author and his name was Christopher Pike, and he used to write all of these like kind of thrillery teenage romance books.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:38

Christopher Pike?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:40

Why does that name sound like that?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:41

Is that the name of uh I swear that the this is the look it up but um but yeah it they're all like these they're kind of like if goosebumps were teenage romance psychological trash.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:57

Like if uh like if dollhouse murders had a driving theater?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:02

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:04

I gotta look it up, Christopher Pike.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:05

When are we gonna read another book like Dollhouse Murders?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:08

I don't know. We really should though.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:10

That's pretty good. But we've gotta read another kid's book.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:13

Christopher Pike, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:15

What's a what's a kid's book you read a million times? That you think I would Dollhouse Murders esque.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:22

Uh, well I don't know. I was gonna say one we I wanna read Dave Barry Does Japan.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:30

But uh, have you ever read The Roll Doll Boy?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:32

Yeah, I think I have.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:33

That's a good one. I read that one. I probably read that book. It's not really like I know you know it's not fun or funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:40

This is what the Christmas Murders titled books look like. It doesn't ring any bells for you.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:47

Not really. Uh uh.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:48

It was very much um like of the babysitter's club goosebumps, like that whole scholastic book order type.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:58

Did you ever get into the box cards of them?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:59

Ugh, my mom bought me a bunch of those. I just think never. She's terrible, isn't it? They they were so insufferable. Didn't you think?

SPEAKER_03 1:31:07

I I only I only read a couple, I think, in class.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:10

You know, they were just like these goody two shoe losers. How many parents? Just kidding. I can say that about my fellow goody two shoe losers because I am one.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:24

Oh, good say.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:26

It's true though.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:27

It's true.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:28

Alright, well, we're done. We're out of here.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:30

Um I'm gonna say, I I thought this went really well. However, I feel like there has to be some more time.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:38

Are we still talking onto the podcast or are we done?

SPEAKER_03 1:31:41

Oh, we're still talking?

SPEAKER_04 1:31:42

Okay. Oh, we haven't said goodbye.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:44

Well, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:45

Keep going.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:46

Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:47

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:47

This is no no no. This is for the we're recording right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:50

Okay, alright, hurry. Did you see me press No, I didn't, but I you know you don't remember everything you do.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:55

I I was just gonna say, I wish we could talk about Star Trek 4 just a little bit more.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:59

Oh my gosh. Me too. I feel like a little bit more about Enemy of the State and the tech. You know? Enhance.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:08

Oh my gosh, Scott Conn.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:10

Sweet babies got con. Alright guys, well, we'll see you in two weeks. We love you. Be safe out there.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:15

Happy Fourth of July.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:17

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:17

It's coming up.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:18

It'll be up after.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:20

It will. Oh yeah. Well, we hope you have. Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:26

And uh one thing is that Rob's had food in his mustache, those whole time. So we'll be talking to you later.

unknown 1:32:34

Bye.