Watermelons and Woodchips Episode 27: Dylan Thornton

W&W Presented by Central Iowa Diesel Performance Episode 27 with Dilly Dilly. 
We sat down with three-time IMCA Super Nationals Champion, Dylan Thornton. Dilly talked about his wild start into racing and his continued success.  He talked about his transition to Super Late Model Racing, and threw in some impressions you may like.  We also talked about the Moffitt Mayhem, which was a story from Dylan's weekend at Cherokee Speedway.  We had a special guest stop by during the show and did an off site interview with the boys. Stay tuned to the end. 


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SPEAKER_06 0:02

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SPEAKER_02 0:50

One of the best, actually. Frankly.

SPEAKER_11 1:09

We've made it this far, and we brought uh our little buddy Dilly Dilly with us today. And uh obviously, as always, Jonathan Log down here, Josh Reynolds to my right. I'm Cody Malico. And uh man, boys, we're back. It feels like it's been a while. Um we're we're kind of getting back on our or getting to our race season schedule now. Yeah, we're getting we're getting to the un close to the unknown of what's really gonna happen.

SPEAKER_10 1:35

Yeah. We like we're like a week away.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

There's gotta be some excitement in your blood. You know, you got to get behind the wheel a little bit on Saturday.

SPEAKER_10 1:45

Yeah, scared you pussies right out of that challenge. That's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:48

Well, that took less than a minute to crank up.

SPEAKER_10 1:51

We were slower than Tyler Pickett by three, four tenths for the first three sessions and then cranked her up and still got beat by Thor Anderson. I'm thinking about it.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

You were beating that session until like the last couple laps. Until green, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 2:07

I think uh green. I think honestly, what you mean by that, too, the whole Tuesday thing from what I've gathered is like oh no, today's Monday. So I think what you gather by that, not knowing what's gonna happen, is your Mondays are probably gonna be filled with fixing the fenders on this thing. They shouldn't be.

SPEAKER_10 2:23

You just told me you brought the the best shocks built on the planet and spent four and a half hours on it. But not body braces. Well, I'm glad we put them two at the other end of the table.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

This could get interesting.

SPEAKER_10 2:37

The thing was so fast last class.

SPEAKER_08 2:39

The shocks are four things on the car, okay? But they're the first thing to go wrong when you ask a driver.

SPEAKER_10 2:43

It's the most important part of the car. It's what I was told. It's what I've been told by everybody. All the late model drivers.

SPEAKER_08 2:48

Aren't you a late model driver?

SPEAKER_10 2:50

Right. Or you're some kind of late model driver.

SPEAKER_08 2:53

You're a model participant. You're like okay, fair.

SPEAKER_10 2:57

Fair. You know, what I'm what I'm trying to say is like uh, you know, it the feeling that I have ever since I got on your shocks. It's fucking terrible. I wasn't gonna go that far, but alright, I mean you can have it. No, it's uh I I'm I'm pumped to have your stuff. If I would have had them Saturday, I would have put them on there, but you're too busy late modeling.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_10 3:24

It's okay. I understand.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

So did you take them off the late model? Like, what are we dealing with here? What's is he Oh no, he don't get that.

SPEAKER_10 3:30

Super secret. Super secret. We can't run spring. Don't even get me started on your guys' rule. We're going into this whole practice thing. I got some shit. Let's roll them.

SPEAKER_08 3:39

Let's go to the let's look back at the itinerary here.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

We do have a little bit to cover tonight. Right. So a few good things.

SPEAKER_11 3:48

Yeah, it's you know, we did have our practice on Saturday. 123 cars in the pits, which was awesome. Yeah. Um then we had we did have a late model, had a sprint car, a couple bang bangers. Um but no, I mean, a million hobby stocks, it seemed like.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

Yep. They all wanted laps and they all got a pretty pretty good amount, I think. I mean, as much as they could. They they rolled them through pretty good. They did what one farm session in the middle?

SPEAKER_11 4:16

Yeah, I think it was windy and yeah, like it was getting dusty, and then they prepped it up again, and then yeah, but I I thought it went really well and um didn't I don't think we had any transponder issues or anything like that, so guys could all see their times and uh a lot of data to take from that, hopefully.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 4:37

Um you know, I kind of thought it was like when we got there, the wind was blowing. We got the new dirt on the track, right? First time on the track with the new dirt, uh, which was awesome. Um but it was a weird, it was almost like a supernational's three o'clock in the afternoon, stick it up the ass, dusty.

SPEAKER_08 4:59

Yeah, the old high pill day. Yeah, yeah, like high pill high heat.

SPEAKER_10 5:03

It was it was it was weird.

SPEAKER_08 5:05

Um we talked about some of my favorites, actually. I like that.

SPEAKER_10 5:09

Well, and there's you know, we've seen like Jimmy Gustin, we've seen him do that last year at Supernatural Start Dead Last in one of those last heat races and just rip around the top and go and and put a straightaway on them and win that heat race. It's what it felt like. I mean, really. I mean, it's it's it's it's a tall task to do that, especially in the middle of the day, considering track condition, uh track position. Um, but I was a little weirded out when we went out there and it was like gravel roady kind of like because it was so dusty. Um yeah, like you like the pits wetter than the track. No, there were no, but that that is the least amount of water I've ever seen in the pit area, and I was pissed because it was just it dusted our trailers. And I'm like, I'm not gonna say one word because everybody's bitched. And you know, Brian Zeeem, who bitches about that, the overwatered pits. I mean, he didn't even show up. It would have been perfect for him. Todd Shu, too. Todd Shu. Yep, you would have enjoyed it. I don't I don't fly through the pits.

SPEAKER_08 6:09

I've almost hit people, not even I've had a few few moments in my life where I'm mad and fly through the pits and I've learned from it, so now I don't either. And I really don't when it's gonna leave these water stains on my hood. Because it it you had the stuff in the pits, it leaves a stain and it does not come off. Yeah. It drives you nuts. It does, it's terrible. It doesn't come off. I don't understand I don't understand why. It just doesn't. It you can wipe it off all you want at the racetrack, and like you'll still see little like dots. It's just the weirdest thing.

SPEAKER_02 6:36

At this point, it's probably not even dirt, it's probably just evaporated water, and it's the dust. That's what it is. I mean, because there's imagine how many gallons of water has gone on the that pit area.

SPEAKER_08 6:47

I bet it'd blow your mind. I mean, I don't know why we don't just get the paving truck out there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 6:54

Because then people would be bitching about their tires getting feathered in the pits or something stupid.

SPEAKER_08 6:58

No, what would happen if it was paved? You'd have sport mods cranking left and right to check to make sure their chains hooked up way more than you already do. Because comes Supernational's time, as soon as a sport mod parked, that's parked out on the, what would that be, the south side, right?

SPEAKER_03 7:14

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08 7:14

So, like, yeah, south side. The moment they hit that concrete, like by the uh pit stands, I mean, we're talking, it's standard in first gear, just gotta make sure the chain's hooked up and it's working. Because if it doesn't hike up, one of the two things is wrong. Left through shock's broken or the chain's not hooked up. One of the two. Right. They just have to do it. If they don't do it, it's like they're gonna suck.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

They gotta test it out.

SPEAKER_08 7:39

It's actually like that's probably one of my biggest pet peeves in the world is watching a sport mod drive through the pits. You know what?

SPEAKER_10 7:45

You wanna know what my one of my new pet peeves is that I got? I just recently gained it. Gained this pet peeve is when sport mods put on a better show than the frickin' modifieds. Can you explain that one to me, Dillon? But then we saw that in Florida, right? We saw that in Florida, not one night, but three nights.

SPEAKER_08 8:01

And so you were a part of that. I was. I can actually probably explain the Florida part quite a pretty easily. Elaborate, please. Uh, the first night that you say the sport mods didn't have any yellows, if I recall, the sport mods went out on that farmed racetrack. No, that was the second night. No, no, no. Well, what happened the first night?

SPEAKER_10 8:18

Was there a bunch of yellows? No, they just raced around the holes and put on a whale of a race.

SPEAKER_08 8:24

Well, I don't know. I mean the sport mods are like, I don't know. It depends on where you go. Sometimes you see some pop dicks in a modified.

SPEAKER_10 8:31

I I agree. So you're telling me that that the Florida, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 8:39

You're telling me that it happens. You're yeah, but hey, take it this way though. In Florida, are there sport mods? No. True. So who travel who traveled down to Florida to race their sport?

SPEAKER_02 8:50

That was a that was a Midwest race.

SPEAKER_08 8:52

That was a Midwest race, yeah, for sure. So a little different. For sure. A little different.

SPEAKER_10 8:55

Which is very cool of all the people that did show up to support that. I was actually really surprised on some of the guys that showed up. Um and there was a lot of people that I'd never even heard of either, you know. Um But I think it's just kind of par for the course uh at any racetrack at any given time. I shot a double bogey. There's you're right. I mean, you know, like there's there's so many times that from the women's tea can switch from you know, mods or sport mod shit, even the stock cars. I mean any class really.

SPEAKER_08 9:26

It just well, I think Florida too, there's a lot of guys that had gone and raced for the first time without the brake floater. Yeah. And uh that uh it's gonna change a lot. Do you think so? Well, it's I mean, uh the sport mod is different. With it without a brake floater and a sport mod only being three-link, it enters the corner. Like a lot more forgiving, I feel like. A four-bar car without a brake floater entering the corner is nowhere near as forgiving. In my opinion.

SPEAKER_10 9:53

So do you think it'll help the the mod guys that were originating in a sport mod that moved up? Or do you think it'll it'll bring back one chance. No?

SPEAKER_08 10:00

It's gonna help the guys that are like, in my opinion, that are confident and not scared. Like I can't wait to go to Boone without a brake floater. I'm pumped for it. Yeah. Yeah, I d well, 'cause when I went to Arizona, I raced the Wild West shootout for a week and a half or whatever it was, ten days. And I had my underbar brake floater on there like I normally would have. And uh I took it off and put a solid clamp on for IM the IMCA stuff, and on practice night I looked like a monkey fucking a footballer. Okay. I mean, it was like, whoa. Yeah. So, I mean Yeah. I mean, even the first two nights after winning, I even I told Kyle, yeah, I think I said it, I think it was the second night I said in the interview that that was the biggest piece of shit I ever drove. In the interview. And he was salty about it. I didn't mean it that way. It just they just doesn't it just didn't drive well. And I'm used to the being able to like control how I want to drive in the corner and stuff like that, and having the throttle and the brake the brakes don't do anything really, other than slow you down at that point. So having your throttle and your wheel input meaning so much more, I was like, okay, now we gotta relearn this.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

So does it I mean you've driven a mod for quite a while, and you had brake floater, I'm guessing. Yep. So would you say that it takes you back to make it more similar to one of these? Then it's then old school. It's still different.

SPEAKER_08 11:23

It's still so much different.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

There's so much movement. Okay. You just can't control it like you could before with the brake floater.

SPEAKER_08 11:30

Right. I mean, like what controls the left rear from going down is the pull bar pulling, which is your throttle position. So like take away the brakes, that's the only thing that controls where your rear end goes where it's supposed to be. So how to dictate like how much to let out of the gas and when to turn and yeah, it's a lot it was a lot more.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

Okay. Well, that does make sense. I mean, because it did look like a full field of new guys, like, if you will. And I was kind of expecting for someone to kind of break through and just kind of drive away, and it just didn't happen. Like that whole race was kind of like that. But by the by the last night at Deep South, you it's like everybody just kind of calmed down a little bit, and and that track's different too, and I know they were bottom hunting at that race and all that, but um yeah, it's interesting, and I think I'll be interested to see the first night at Boone, what it's like.

SPEAKER_08 12:24

Yeah, it's uh yeah, the first night at Boone I think is gonna be interesting, yeah, for sure. Because that's a place where you're gonna notice the biggest difference at a place like that where you drive down the straightaway so straight for so long, and then you gotta make a corner. Well, I mean you can't drive into that corner without lifting out of the gas at all. Like, obviously. I mean you could, but it's like not gonna be very fast. So to actually like control yourself of what to do all three things to do is brakes, gas, and turning at the same time to keep the car where it needs to be to to complete the corner is gonna be interesting.

SPEAKER_02 12:56

Yeah. I'm ready for it. After seeing practice, like it just got me jacked up to see some cars go racing.

SPEAKER_10 13:04

Yeah, I kinda thought that I'd be a little more jacked up like when we were in Florida. But like actually taking my car and going and you know, but then like fifteen after the first session, we're laying around rolling around in the forty mile an hour winds and the unwatered pits and no food and drink or water. Like I just wanted to be in the desert. I I actually just wanted to join all the bitchers on Facebook bitching about a thirty dollar goddamn pit pass when you can't even go to Dairy Queen for$17 anymore. I mean, so to spend$30 and go out and watch some guys rip around and check out all the new cars, like people pay more than that to go to car shows. Oh, yeah. So I was gladly, I actually paid$180. You did? I w I read this time because you know I on one of our new credit card machines. Right. Yeah, yeah. I was all worried about it. I we get ready to leave here, and I'm like, oh shit, I don't have any cash. So I had to, I I have this, I got this new channel on my phone. I'm like, hey bud, you got a note already? Yeah, yeah. Got the credit card? Yep. I'm like, man, yep. I was all against it, but I mean it was kind of cool on Saturday. You heard it, and that it's video proof. But uh yeah, no, I it it was uh it was exciting. I mean, and really the wind, it was I mean, it was bad enough you had to have two people on your stock car hoods because it would it catch wind real quick, you know. But uh it was cool to see a lot of the lot of people that you normally see on a weekly show that you don't get to see all the time. Um and there were some new people there. I never did talk to any of them, but uh I'm saying like the sprint car and the late model, and you know, like I mean when's the last time we seen a non-winged sprint car? Did they have a wing on? They didn't have a wing on. Yeah, I did. Yeah, yeah, it was Vanit Blue.

unknown 14:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 14:58

So it's like he had a top hat. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_10 15:01

Yeah, he did. There was a late model there? Yeah, there was. Yeah. It was there. Uh I don't know, but they were turning faster lap times than you were at Friendship Speedway. Well, I mean, completely different racetrack, so I'd imagine. Oh, was it? I'd imagine. Actually, actually, I honestly have no idea who it was.

SPEAKER_02 15:18

He was from Plattsmouth, Iowa. I know that much. Because they were asking, Colt was asking where that was at.

SPEAKER_10 15:22

It sounded like his timing was off by about 14 degrees and he was about ready to burn the motor down.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

Well, she was she was screaming a little bit when I didn't think it would be. Like it was inter interesting watching him get around that place. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 15:35

Well then uh Vanderplug in that and he's just a young kid, I think he's only fifteen in that the sprint car driver. I was talking to his dad, Eric, who raced at you know, raced all kinds of stuff and raced at Knoxville and whatever, and he's like, Yeah, it's awesome to come practice because he can't go to Knoxville until he turns 16 in June. So they gotta find places to race, and they race with that Spring Sprint King series, and I think they do maybe some of the raceaver stuff if if um whatever's close. But yeah, he goes out there in the first corner and rips into there and then loops, drives it all the way to the top, and spins it out, and then he just stays in the hammer, and he's probably six inches away from the wall and whips that thing around somehow and just keeps it going. Like I thought he was the tail tank was gonna eat concrete. But he did, he just whipped it right around and kept going, so no yellows, didn't have to go to his pits.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

Well, Rockstar had a little moment on the front stretch, Rocky Cottle. Yeah. He shortened up that front bumper a little bit. Who'd he hit? Nobody. The wall. Just he came out and did the old ship and nose it right into the wall. Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_10 16:50

I seen the noser drift off. I just thought maybe he was getting caught a tire, and I'm like thinking rock.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

That's a good time for he broke her in, so yeah.

SPEAKER_10 17:01

But nothing too big. Jay Notaboom kissed the back stretch wall. Yeah. I mean, he had about a half a pack of smokes down before the first session.

SPEAKER_02 17:10

That one took me a minute. I saw the seven in, and I'm like, that can't be Jay. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 17:14

Got a spec motor in there. Bill's got her tuned up and wound tight, and that seven in is gonna be hitting the whole Midwest this year. It's been a couple years since the old noteboom. Yeah. Uh been in a car right now. However, I the scene that uh Beatrice posted that badass video, this was probably still when you were in freshman high school.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

Probably before that.

SPEAKER_08 17:36

Maybe earlier, yeah. Might be. That was a hell of a year, but what year was that? Because I've watched it a million times. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 17:43

Where he goes up and just completely doors the shit out of David Murray. I'm like What year was that?

SPEAKER_02 17:47

Like 08, 09, maybe?

SPEAKER_10 17:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

It wasn't terrible, terrible long time ago, but you were still going to the winter dance.

SPEAKER_08 17:54

It's about 10. I never went to one of those either.

SPEAKER_10 17:58

But I I just I, you know, I it was just weird. I watched that video play show up to the racetracks, and I had heard rumor that, you know, well, I didn't I haven't heard rumor. I'll just be honest. I mean, Joel told me he's just like over it, you know, he's just ready to he bought a boat and stuff. Yeah, Joel did? Yeah, okay. So Joel had it. Joel had one last two, yeah. I mean, he just was just over the fact that he feels like maybe he's just being over technologied, you know, if that makes sense or if that's a word. I know you guys are watching. No, that was good. That was a good thing. Yeah. And and and there, you know, Bill has done it for 50 years. You know, I mean, that's all he's done is raced at Boon Speedway. Um, and he'll tell you that because he's had those pit stalls ever since he started racing. He's had those pit stalls.

SPEAKER_03 18:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 18:48

And when he dies, or anything, whatever happens to those pit stalls, I get them.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

I thought you were gonna say he was gonna be buried in a pit stall. Well, we could. She had a plexiglass over with Bill down there.

SPEAKER_10 19:01

Here lies Bill before. We can only do it though if he's bent over. Because I can tell you uh that guy's knees. Oh, he bends at the hip. Uh-huh. I I mean, I admire it every week. He's gotta want it. He's gotta want it. The knees the knees are shot on the old 87 senior for sure.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

Yep. So Joel's done.

SPEAKER_10 19:18

Is Joel is I don't know if he's done. I didn't, I haven't heard him say that. Like I he just said he's really gonna tame it back, and I think Jay's gonna drive the car. I don't know how many. I don't even know. I just I was surprised that Jay was there for practice. But he I so I went over and talked to him, of course, you know, and uh he said it'd been a couple years since he'd been in a car, and I'm like, ah shit, you'll be alright. You know, you gotta know a spec motor now, you gotta wait from that crate motor deal. Like, cause for a lot of the old racers, that was a big change for them.

SPEAKER_08 19:51

I don't know. Honestly, I don't think that car's cool unless it has that six cylinder in it.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

It is pretty cool.

SPEAKER_11 19:56

He did win a couple races, he did win a couple races with it.

SPEAKER_08 19:59

I mean, he know he knew how to work the point average on that. Yeah, but I still think that was the coolest thing in the world, hearing that thing rip around there.

SPEAKER_10 20:07

It was just such a different sound, wasn't it? Yeah. They had well, the cam they had in that thing, dude.

SPEAKER_08 20:14

I mean, gnarly. I heard some stuff like that in North Carolina last weekend. I mean, they don't yeah.

SPEAKER_10 20:20

Wild. Yeah. Pretty wild. So it was good. It was, you know, but for them to go back to the spec motor, that was kind of right up the Bishores Lane, you know, they always ran open motor stuff, and it was cool to see Jay there. Yeah. Just hadn't seen him around. I kind of wonder what happened to him. He kind of fell off the face of the earth. Which he's on the other side of the state. Um, so didn't s don't really generally see a lot of him anyway, but it was nice to see Jay, one of the old school old boys, you know.

SPEAKER_11 20:49

Yeah, I talked to him for a little while and and uh I'm like, Did you get lost or what? He's like, I just seeing if I can't come over and destroy Bill's stuff one more time. So Bill's like, I got a rack full of two. He loves jig and machine. Destroy it. I'm ready to have Joel welded back together. That's exactly what he said. Yeah. He goes, We got all the stuff to put it back together. So um, like you said, it was cool to see see the 7N ripping around again because I mean he's such a cool guy, he's fun. Yeah, um you know, there was some of those years where he was like the most dominant IMCA modified in the country, I feel like, at times.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

He was fast, no doubt. He ripped laps with your dad. Uh he had to have it. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 21:34

He drove for dad for several years, as you know, Joe Drove was a how uh Charlie Clark house car. Um been around in a lot of stuff. He was kind of a chassis whore there for a while, jumping around, kind of getting one of these, getting one of them, trying this, getting that, and then just kind of found something that fit. And then just man, I mean, I have never seen somebody smoke so more cigarettes than me, and that dude. Accomplishes that and I admire it.

SPEAKER_11 22:02

When we went to Arizona, you like it was he was driving Bill's car down there, and uh he'd pull out to go out for the heat race, and there's just a ring of smokes all the way around that thing. Sure, so you knew where he parked.

SPEAKER_10 22:16

And 2014, when he came to Harris to we we rebuilt uh the car and stuff, and Rocky and Jay and uh uh were rebuilding the 2014 Harris car. They were just a different design in blah blah blah. I mean, he smoked a carton of cigarettes, and they were all just left. I mean, like I said, it was just a circle around the jig of Marby Buck menthols. Oh man, menthols even screaming them down. I mean, I bet he's I bet he's thousand a month on smokes.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

Crystallized lungs.

SPEAKER_10 22:50

Yeah. Oh yeah. Lot of corn, a lot of corn to get rid of to get that habit. But really cool to see even some of the the there was some new there were some different cars there that I had never seen come down to the practice, which did we ever figure out how long ago it was that we it's been since you actually had a practice like that?

SPEAKER_02 23:10

I looked and we've since I've been there in 2019, we've had one on the schedule. Yeah, and it got canceled. So it was before that.

SPEAKER_10 23:19

Yeah. So I mean, is there gonna be a practice in the future, like during like mid-season, like do it on a Wednesday night, or you guys like I would say it can be talked about, but I I don't see I wouldn't say there's a high likelihood of it.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

I think I do think though that when you guys lost money Saturday or what?

SPEAKER_08 23:42

No, I think I think that they prefer the buyer pit pass rain out after hot lap strategy.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

Oh no, that's that is a good strategy, isn't it?

SPEAKER_08 23:50

I'm just saying, I mean hey, I'm not hate, I've done it.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

That's about 30 miles east.

SPEAKER_09 23:57

Yeah. I forgot about J Van. 27.

SPEAKER_10 24:02

Here we go, duty of 27 on them here, Dylan Thornton in the house. No J-Van still to this time. Send it back up to the Wolfman. G Money back up there. Come on.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

We talk about our visitor. We don't have to do it right now. Right.

SPEAKER_09 24:19

I mean this has been a day early. Yeah. Uh we need to go to break on that. That's probably a good idea.

SPEAKER_10 24:28

Settle in on break.

SPEAKER_09 24:29

We're gonna do three here.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

I don't have 27 in. I don't think Jonathan sent it to a break. Yeah, go ahead and let our setting to a break.

SPEAKER_10 24:34

We're here with Dylan Thornton on watermelons and woof chips. We'll bring it back to you after the break.

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SPEAKER_11 25:46

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SPEAKER_08 25:51

They deleted my truck.

SPEAKER_11 25:52

They did? Yeah, Jed's a good dude.

SPEAKER_08 25:54

Yeah, cool shit. I literally just put that together. Nice. He's a dog.

SPEAKER_11 25:58

Yeah, he's awesome. Their shop is pretty cool too. Like, I it's like big. I I've gone in there, I didn't realize that they had both sections in there. Yeah. And yeah, it's they got a whole thing going on.

SPEAKER_08 26:11

My DPF filter uh broke, and it was like it could have cost more to fix that than have it deleted. And he hooked me up with that guy. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_10 26:20

Doing my sponsors. See?

SPEAKER_08 26:22

Even though he didn't send it to the sponsor when we went to break, but uh, it was the first time I don't understand our sponsors on our car.

SPEAKER_10 26:32

Are they all on there? Yeah, DPD.

SPEAKER_08 26:35

Uh Bill Keats photography on here and not me. Richard Keats photography and not me.

SPEAKER_10 26:42

But he sends me like 400 picks a year. He posts them on Facebook!

SPEAKER_02 26:46

I know. Are they clean picks? Yeah, it's cool. They're real clean. Okay, continue. Hey, can I just talk for a second about the little back and forth with Dylan and five times over there? That was fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_08 27:01

He five times got me covered on five, but he he ain't got shit on the three and two years.

SPEAKER_02 27:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_10 27:06

All right. But like like he like Dad said, I mean, what do we get? He's he was racing against Curtis Glover.

SPEAKER_08 27:12

Go ahead, back him up. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_10 27:14

Uh-huh. Who was the other guy? Who was the guy that got in the in the altercation? Oh, that was Iowa.

SPEAKER_08 27:21

Yeah, that was uh Travis Denning, and I honestly don't even know the other guy's name.

SPEAKER_10 27:25

Like Road Rage. Yeah, they ran into each other leaving the racing track. They racked on the track and off the track.

SPEAKER_08 27:32

It was Facebook famous. Yes.

SPEAKER_10 27:34

You did pass Dumper, I guess. He was crying. Dumper was?

SPEAKER_08 27:39

Yeah. And then that Wade says to him, like, are you crying? I'm not kidding. He was teared up. I know I know. Wow.

SPEAKER_10 27:49

It was just another rubber down racetrack. He went in the rubber. Yeah, we know that. We know you're rubber.

SPEAKER_02 27:57

So you don't like the rubber? You're a raw dog guy?

SPEAKER_08 27:59

I actually suck in the rubber. I'm awful in the rubber. Same. I'm terrible in the rubber. Same.

SPEAKER_02 28:05

Never cared for it. Went right for the soon as I could get myself where I didn't have to mess with rubber. No rubber feel.

SPEAKER_10 28:12

Fucking game on. Yep, skinny dip. Next.

SPEAKER_11 28:16

Well, hey, now that we've dove into Dylan's career, Dylan. Yeah, actually, yeah, go ahead. Lead into that.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

You came from way out west. Orkrit? Some work it? Some super long state named California. Um I would ask you if uh you're a Democrat, but I think I know the answer to that. Yes. Okay. Um I love that one. Second. Um, how'd you get started in racing?

SPEAKER_08 28:44

Uh well, my dad always raced. Um and I was I d I was never really I don't remember when my parents were together when he raced, but when they split up, he still raced, and uh we would go over to his house on weekends and stuff and go to the races to watch. And uh it was actually funny. He we I was in North Carolina last weekend, which is where he lives, in Mooresville, and I asked him, or some kid was going around getting autographs, and he asked me when I started racing, and I was like, I don't know. And I actually texted him and he told me, I think I was uh uh I'd look, but I think he said I was I gotta look now. How old I was my first go-kart race. He he just texted me this. Uh I was six years old. It was in 07, my first go-kart race. Born in 01. Born in 01. We were a year out of high school, man, bud.

SPEAKER_10 29:35

We were surfing. We were skinny dipping back. It was a wrong go-kart.

SPEAKER_08 29:41

It wasn't the same go-kart racing that kids see out here, though. Like the only go-kart track was a was a road course at the airport that was close. So I did that for a few years, and then the dirt track, my home track, Santa Maria Speedway, they Chris Kearns put a dirt track on it, or in the infield, and uh, it was like dirt go-karts, but it w it wasn't like go-karts on dirt out here. It was like you had grooved up tires and like a little sideways, and it wasn't like out here where you just kind of just drive around there wide open and lean your head left and turn in the corner. It was not like that kind of dirt go-kart racing, but I did that till I was 14. No kids. Really? Yeah. Wow. So not very much though, not like a lot a year. It was very, very, I would say, very minimal compared to what people would probably think.

SPEAKER_02 30:28

So did you get out of a go-kart and go right into a modified, or how or uh so you couldn't race.

SPEAKER_08 30:34

So in California, the only IMCA classes was uh modified, and sport mods were like a few years in um out there, and that was it for IMCA. The hobby stocks were morphidite, whatever, um, factory stocks, some other class and all this stuff, and then they had uh four cylinders. And my grandpa, on my 14th birthday, my grandpa, which was my dad's dad, he bought me my first race car. It was a Ford Pinto. Hell yeah! So on my 14th birthday, my dad he texted me the night before or something and said he was gonna pick me up, and we were gonna go to Ventura to pick this car up. It was for uh Enduro that they were having at the end of the year, so what he told me it was an enduro car, and I had to go. And I was like, at that time I just loved everything racing, so I was like, hell yeah, what time he picked me up? You know, and uh he picked me up and we went down there real early in the morning. It was for like eight or nine that we got there and uh it was I saw that sitting there, and as soon as I saw it, I knew what it was. I knew that it was a four-cylinder car for me, and I was just jacked. And uh we loaded it up on the trailer, he loaded it up actually, because it had a clutch and everything. I've never used such a thing. And uh it was literally on my birthday. And uh we leave there and I was like looking online and I was like, hey, I was like, you realize that you know they were called mini stocks. I was like, you know, mini stocks race tonight, saying, right? And he's like, Yeah. He goes, I don't know though, you know, he just never done it. And I was like, come on, like let's do it, let's do it, come on. And he was like, Alright, we'll see, we'll see. And uh which was a classic of my dad, he'd never tell me yes or no. And uh we get back to his house and it's probably like 10 or 11 in the morning, and uh we were putting lug nuts behind the seat to space it forward, and so I fit in it, and so I could at least reach the pedals, and somehow I convinced him to let me race that night, which I still don't know how, because knowing my dad, he was not about it. And we get to the track early, which in California at the time, showing up to the track at 2.30 was pretty normal, which I've learned is the most outrageous thing in the world. But we're there like 2.30, and I'm driving around the pits of the racetrack, learning how to use a clutch. Like I st I mean I about smoked the starter on this thing, turning it on and off so many times, trying to move. And it's so funny. I I actually I say almost, I should have won that night. I passed this guy for the lead that has raced many stocks since I was a little kid in the stands. I passed him for the lead, and we go into the next corner with like five to go, and he wrecks us both. Wasn't about to get beat by a kid, huh? I don't know what happened. It was so long ago, I honestly don't remember the story, but he wrecked us both. And I was pissed.

SPEAKER_11 33:11

Yeah, I bet. So you're on your way to w you picking the car up in the morning.

SPEAKER_08 33:15

Literally that day, I was going to win that race. I I hot lapped, I looked like a monkey fucking a football. I heat raced, looked like a monkey fucking a football. And I don't know, I started probably like eighth or something in the race because of the way they did a similar IMCA invert, uh, without like point average sort of deal, but then they just redraw. And I think I started eighth and or around there, and was I was passing this guy for the lead because it finally slicked off and he could just drive like a go-kart nice and slow. And uh yeah, I was mad. Yeah, this dude wrecked us both for lead. I have a picture of my phone somewhere of him wrecking me and him at the same time on that night.

SPEAKER_11 33:50

Oh man. But that I mean, what a that that's like a cool story. It's cool to hear like the origin stories of people, right? Like when we like that's just that's awesome.

SPEAKER_08 34:00

Like you just racing for me, what I grew up racing, is not what racing is for me now. Right. Like that year I ran three total mini stock races, and that was the end of the season. It was August, and that was the end of the season. There was three races left. And the next year was like the f I ran the full season, and it was maybe twelve shows. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_10 34:23

Maybe well it just goes into the different part of the country and racing. Right. Yeah, we talked about that a few times on the show. It's like the South was way behind what everybody was doing up here. It's kind of like the East Coast late model shit is so much further ahead because it's close to the NASCAR stuff and UMP and and the big dog late model shit. It's just like they're a year ahead of what we're doing here in the Midwest. In the Midwest, there's so much racing going on. There's a lot of knowing a lot of knowledge here, but like you get to Texas or you know, some of the pla there's always you always have your few stars that are, you know, in the know of what's going on, but it's just a weird, different thing, and it's it's kind of cool that I don't know how many tracks you've been at, Dylan, but it's like you come from California. I remember, you know, when Jim took you in and you come to Marchtown the first night, and Jimmy's like, Oh, hey, meet Dylan Thornton, and I'm like, Oh, are you Ricky's cousin or family question standard, you know, like to this day, standards? Well, it's like, how many other how many other logues do you guys know at the racetrack? Right, right, yeah. Despike.

SPEAKER_03 35:36

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_10 35:37

Yeah. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? So it's like the dog. So when you hear, yeah, it's like so when you hear uh, you know, like if you hear a Smith, you almost I mean, unless you know them personally, you're almost like, oh, are you related to the the Smiths that are good in racing? You know uh but uh to come from California, come out here to Iowa. Why why did you do that? What how did those opportunities arise for you in California? Like were you do you feel like you were at your peak in California and you were just like, screw it, I'm 18 years old, I'm gonna take a chance and I'm going out there.

SPEAKER_08 36:13

It was weird because I raced it like my racing career went like forwards and then backwards. Like I raced four cylinders that next year and I don't want I I won quite a few races in the championship and whatever, then like at the very next year after that. So what would have been my second quote unquote full year racing? Uh my dad doesn't have a pot to piss in just like I don't. And uh he had this sport mod that he traded his hobby stock for because he was driving a street stock for another guy, so he didn't really need his hobby stock, and he had this sport mod, and it was a it was a pile of junk. I mean, it was an 09 car at the time, had a metric clip on it if it tells you how old it is.

SPEAKER_04 36:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 36:50

And uh somehow it came about where he raced it a few times, and then I got to race it a few times, and then the guy he drove a street stock for was kind of tired of owning street stocks, and he was trying to revive late models in California. So he this guy, I don't even know why to this day, uh, his name is Mark Blackford, and he let me drive one of his late models. So from a four-cylinder, the next year I drove this sport mod probably eight times, and I drove his this other guy's late model probably eight times. And uh it was a full season race for me, right? And uh after that, my dad, him and my stepmom, they moved to North Carolina, and it was kind of one of those things where I didn't know anything about racing, so do I stay in California with no race car, or like what do I do? And my mom and stepdad were very influential in my racing, but they were grandstand fans. They didn't want to get in between everything else, which is completely valid to this day. Uh I understand what they did, but uh I decided to move with my dad, and I had this late model that I raced in North Carolina probably four I raced it four times, and the very last race I won, and then I realized that it was kind of ridiculous that I couldn't quite afford to I was seventeen at the 17 at the time. So I couldn't afford to like the fund to do this working at a seal working steel coating in summertime uh to do this and race. And I was like, I think I want to move back home. So I sold all sold the late model stuff because me and my uncle Salty's Barbecue has been a very influential in my program. He owned the car and I kinda own the engines and stuff, and sort of a weird deal. And uh we sold all that, and on the way home I found a modified to buy turnkey in California. So in 2018, I would I think it was around August or September, I moved back home to California with a turnkey modified that we bought. It was a 2015 Taylor car with Jeff. Old Jeff. And uh we bought that turnkey and uh I raced I raced with that for the end of 2018 and through 2019 and stuff like that. And by the end of 2019, I worked for my stepdad's electric motor shop, and I was sending I would say around springtime, I decided to buy a a new car from Clay Daily and Evo. And I was sending Clay everything on my paychecks every week, besides like$150, and that covered my gas to drive to Clay's house every weekend to work for him. Uh to build a new car, and I built it, and by the end of 2019, I raced it a few times, and we went to Vegas that year. And at that time in 2019, the only people that had really gone to Iowa was Colin. He came out here for however long. But Ethan and Cody were known to come to Iowa for the summer. And I was like, that's badass, I want to do that. Like I saw what they were as racers, because I've watched Ethan race since I was a little kid, and I've watched Ethan or Cody race since I was a little kid. So I saw what they became, and I was like, that's badass, I want to do that. And I after Vegas that year, we almost made the show, and I won their Young Guns race at the time. That was I think that was probably the last year that IMCA had that race. And I was like, I want to do this for a summer. I told my uncle, and he was like, well, he's like, that'd be cool, you know. And I uh I convinced my mom and my stepdad to let me take it was it was originally supposed to be the end of April or mid-April through Supernaturals off. And then COVID hit, which was actually my saving grace, because like I said, I have a pot to piss in. So I was able to save up money from COVID hitting in March or so. And uh through the beginning of May, I think it was, when I finally left and came to Iowa, I was able to save up an absolute pile of money, which ended up being what I spent on all my wrecked parts. Before you go into that further, I borrowed a trailer Jimmy Gustin. Yeah, I met so I met Jimmy on iRacing. So I was planning on coming to Iowa for a summer, and Clay kept telling me that he'd find me a place to go. And uh, well, nothing really came about that he would find me a shop to work out of when I came out, and we were playing iRacing because it was COVID, nothing else to do. And uh I met Jimmy on iRacing, and Scott Fitzpatrick told him that I wanted to come to Iowa for a summer. You should let this should let this guy come and stay at your place. And I was like, I laughed about it. I was like, There's no way, you know, he would want to like have that happen. Like, there's no way. And uh he Jimmy texted me and asked if I was serious, and I was like, Yeah, I really am. Like, what do you think? And and he was all about it, and so we literally had never met in person, and I drove out to Iowa and I met him for the first time in person. Now, granted, we talked on the phone and stuff like that, obviously, and learned a little bit about each other, but really honestly, as an 18-year-old kid, not enough. Right. And uh and it's like a real life episode of catfish we got going on here, folks. It wasn't bad. I mean, obviously I knew who Jimmy Gustin was, but he didn't know who I was. And uh yeah, I came out there and I met him in person that night and that I got there, and the next day I think I went racing, but uh I stayed at his place for the whole summer.

SPEAKER_02 42:13

Was he disappointed that you weren't from like south of the border California? No, because you did a lot of concrete work for him, right?

SPEAKER_08 42:20

No, not very many. I went worked for him a couple times, but not not I didn't do very much concrete work. It was just a couple times, but uh gotcha. No, it was it was it was very interesting. It came out completely out of the blue. Uh very, very, very random. That is wild. Not how I thought that story would go.

SPEAKER_09 42:38

I knew I knew that. Yeah, I knew that because Oh, and you never told us?

SPEAKER_02 42:42

Geez. I mean, he's got his own secret channel channel.

SPEAKER_10 42:47

That's right. That's right. But yeah, no, I just I don't think a lot of people knew that, Dil. That, you know, how that all conspired and how the whole Jimmy thing come about, and and you know, I remember like when Dylan first showed up, like he was like we've talked about the Tim Ward thing. Not comparing you to Tim Ward, but when Tim Ward moved up here was a few years before you got here, and he came in on the record every goddamn night.

SPEAKER_08 43:13

And Dylan was the same way, and like I said, the record the record driver knew where I was parked.

SPEAKER_10 43:18

Right. Like you it got to the point where at some point early in the season, you're like, I don't know if I'm gonna make it all summer. Yeah, I yeah, yeah. You remember? I mean, I remember those conversations and like I had f so I had four wheels.

SPEAKER_08 43:33

Just four. Four wheels, and they were on the car. That's and like five tires, six, maybe? Yeah, there's probably a couple tires on the rack. I mean, it was I hadn't like blunt.

SPEAKER_02 43:46

This is six years ago.

SPEAKER_08 43:47

I had yeah, so this would have been twenty twenty.

SPEAKER_02 43:50

This is six years ago, and we're staring at a three time supernationals champion. Folks, are you paying attention? Right, right, this is a story, dude. Right.

SPEAKER_08 44:00

Awesome. By September, by Supernational's time, I was I mean, I was broke. I had I had no money left to race because I had left with a small nest egg, and my mom, she's a G. So she uh she got me on unemployment when I left. Milked that. California. She's the G. She's the G. All right. Uh that didn't last long. Uh, but no, I I was out of money. I mean, there was a there was a few people here and there that would on it that helped me out throughout the summer. Jimmy, one of them. But uh yeah, I was I had I literally I still remember a time I think I was going racing at Marshalltown, and I had the four wheels that were on my car that were raceable. Wow. Damn. That's it's uh yeah, for a weekly show. Just going to race. Going to get left. And that was uh that and that was that was huge for me because I'd never really, you know, a lot of people don't understand what racing really is. And that was racing. That was racing night in and night out, week in and week out. And for me, the way I grew up, every March the schedule would come out for my home track, and it's like, oh, you gotta go pick through and see what weekends you race. You may race one weekend in April, and then you race two weekends in uh May, and then you may not race the whole month of June, depending on how the it was always all mixed-matched, you just didn't know. So, like it was a huge eye opener of what racing really is. And you could race every weekend in California if you wanted to drive six hours every day. But it that's just not feasible. So it was it was definitely an eye opener. Let's uh say that. That's a hell of a story.

SPEAKER_10 45:39

I mean that is so cool. So uh I'm gonna Josh hasn't asked it yet, which is weird why he hasn't, but where did the 38T come from?

SPEAKER_08 45:49

So that was my my dad's number was 38T. And I really liked it because once I started uh got it got a little older and realized that how many people don't have the number 38, I I thought it was cool. And then on top of that, 38T, I feel like 38T flows well. Uh it doesn't sound like weird. And it's funny, my dad is only 38 because he was always number my grandpa was always number 30. And back in the in their day, letters weren't a thing. If you moved up in a division, you didn't have seniority of the number, you changed your number. So it went from thirty to thirty-one. And then I think it was late models, maybe, or mod one of those two when my dad moved up, he had to change his number to thirty-eight to meet to obviously to next one available or Yeah, whatever. And so then he stuck with thirty-eight, and then I think around the time of he started moving around divisions, letters were a thing, so he just added a T. But that is where the 38 T came from. That's cool. Just kind of stuck with it.

SPEAKER_02 46:50

How do you like running the 13? It's cool.

SPEAKER_08 46:53

Yeah. Yeah. They're uh they're cool people. They're uh they're uh they're some of the real ones in racing. Yeah. They're uh they know that that they are building, trying to build something that is not what you go and buy from Rocket or Longhorn. And you know, so I don't want to say expectations are low because they're not, but they're not like uh don't go quick time and qualifying what the hell's wrong with you type of people. Sure. It's very it's it's actually to me it's it's been very fun to work with them and bring my knowledge with their knowledge and combine the two and try to work on his car in a hole to make something that's fast. And there's a I've told people from day one that there's a ton of potential there, and that one day people will see it. They may not see it today, they may not see it tomorrow, but they'll see it one day. And when they do, they're gonna be like, holy shit. Right. Is it just Cody? Is it Cody and his wife? Cody Sommer, right? Yeah, so Cody, Cody and his wife, uh Cody and Emma, they they own like the whole deal or whatever, and Cody was actually building that car. Um he didn't really I don't think he knew it was gonna be named a DRT until after, but he actually was building that late model before he met Scott. It was when he owned Mansfield. Uh was promoting Mansfield is when he met Scott, and then he went to work for Scott and he kinda he told me that he actually scrapped that first uh car that he was building. It was just it went away. And uh when he got away from Scott, he started obviously he does the dome and stuff like that, and then he kind of realized a few years ago that hey, I kinda wanna I was always his dream to build his own late model. So he wanted to get back into it, and he felt like he could. So he did, and and he built back what he was originally working on and a few modifications. I mean, everybody probably thinks it's a Bloomquist car, and I could tell you there's a there's a mock-up of a Bloomquist car out of uh you know 3-8 tubing on his desk, and it's not anything close. Uh so uh he built that car and he raced it for the first time and then he did his old dream thing or whatever, and since then we've just we developed such a good relationship that I've obviously just been driving for him since. Yeah. And driving back and forth to North Carolina, flying, flying. Oh, you are flying? I drove out there before World Finals because he needed my truck to drive the giveaway car to the dome. So I drove then, but no, definitely not driving.

SPEAKER_02 49:19

I was gonna say that's a lot of miles.

SPEAKER_11 49:21

Well, and the way they do that's pretty cool. Like, I I remember that whole contest thing and like watching like who's gonna pop up on FaceTime and whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_08 49:32

Yeah, the giveaway thing was interesting because I actually I saw it and I scrolled by it, and it was it was honestly probably a day or two later that I even commented on it. And I commented because I was like, that's not gonna happen. Like, you're just like whatever. And uh then obviously I saw like, whoa, there's a lot of people commenting on it and sharing it. I was like, this is probably a real deal at this point. Like he probably gonna have to make it a real deal with how much it blew up. So I commented on it, and uh, and then I was like, I was thinking, I was like, you know, I was like, this guy, he probably has no idea who I am, but I have raced his event a few times and he's invited me, so he might. So I actually sent him a Facebook message, and I was like, you know, fuck it. What's the worst I can do? Yeah, I'm gonna be that guy. So I sent him a message and uh asked what it was all about. It was literally, I think I all him messaged, what's his what's his dream ride all about? This was my message, I think. And uh he didn't reply for like two days, and we were actually testing at Marshalltown, and he texted me back, started asking questions about my current ride and what I have going on and where I'm racing, if I'm racing that weekend, and a few things, and I was like, Whoa. You know, I was not expecting a response at all. It was very odd. Yeah, but definitely yeah, it was that was a really cool and unique experience. Because I still even after he texted me, I still had no idea. I mean he he played it off like I was not getting that even until we did the FaceTime. Before the FaceTime, he cut out there's quite a few things in that FaceTime that are cut out, and one of the big things at the beginning was him telling me that you know he's he left in there a little bit, a small bit of it of him saying that he's gonna he's calling quite a few guys or whatever, you know, to get their opinions on stuff. Because at that time, you know, that was a few weeks later, I kind of had an idea, you know, like of what what he was doing, that there I was probably in the prospect of maybe five or six people, but I didn't know for sure. I mean he pretty much told me what he was looking for. And when he had his list of fifty out, I kind of like was able to narrow it down of his exact description of what he was looking for for somebody that I was probably closer to the top, but I still had no idea even during the whole FaceTime.

SPEAKER_11 51:43

Yeah. So that's wild. That's so cool. So now I guess talk about what you guys got going on now, right? Like you're running that car, and you said your modified's probably gonna sit for a while because you're gonna be going back and forth out there, right?

SPEAKER_08 51:57

Well, yeah, his deal is not my modified is gonna sit mainly because I'm racing the Kai car again. Um I have last three years or two years. This is the third year with them, and they're an absolutely fantastic family to drive for. I could not ask.

SPEAKER_10 52:12

Hey, you know what that's weird before we go into into the Kai thing, you know, Justin raced a front-wheel drive car and then went straight to a late model, right? Yeah, there's some similarity there.

SPEAKER_08 52:22

That is interesting. I actually guess I've never thought about that, but that's very interesting. That's why I'm in management, and that's why you're gonna believe. Note it. Noted.

SPEAKER_10 52:31

That is interesting because it is very I mean, I'm just saying, I've been a Justin Kai fan because of that. Yeah. And he is Justin Kai is cool. Yeah, you know, like the Kai family. Um, you know, I really kind of met, is it his mom? Must be his mom. Brenda. Brenda, yes. I'm a Brenda. At my at Marshalltown, uh, when I come down to talk to you about this rage car here. And that was the first time I actually I mean, I knew Justin and his dad because of racing, but um they seem like really down-to-earth people and and are have offered up an absolute awesome opportunity for you. Oh yeah. Uh to maybe, you know, maybe showcase some of your other abilities. But do you think that that kind of helped with the whole Cody deal too? Because you were already kind of doing that and has been a little bit more than a lot of people.

SPEAKER_08 53:21

I think so, because Cody was looking for somebody that nobody knew. Um he was looking for somebody that and he still tells me still tells me to this day that he thinks I'm probably the next breakout, whether it was on the internet, you're not even in the top ten. That's their that's their problem. They're probably sitting on a couch. So I mean, but uh that's what he was looking for was somebody that he felt like was the next guy that that could maybe turn some heads. And honestly, if anybody's anybody's drunk, if they can say that when we when we showed up to the dream, if we did not turn heads, you know, they're lying. So uh he accomplished what he was trying to accomplish there. But I think it helped a little bit because I had just enough late model experience to show that I could at least drive the car.

SPEAKER_10 54:05

Right. That's what I that's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_08 54:07

But not enough that people are like, that's the guy who should be in it. Right. Right. Uh so I think that that helped a ton. Right.

SPEAKER_02 54:14

Who's your favorite late model driver?

SPEAKER_08 54:17

Uh I like to do top three. All right. So who's your top three? Turbo. Turbo's a dog.

SPEAKER_02 54:22

Turbo is he number one?

SPEAKER_08 54:24

Uh top three. We have a top three. Okay, so you don't want to rank him, you just want to give a topic. All right. Turbo's a dog. Uh, I think JD's just a absolute badass. Um I don't know. The third is I don't know.

SPEAKER_11 54:41

So we got a top two.

SPEAKER_08 54:43

Yes, we got a top two. We got a top two. We really have a top two, honestly.

SPEAKER_11 54:46

So what's it like, I guess, now being on that national touring series, like whenever you guys do go race that car, like, and being able to to bounce ideas off those guys or you know, talk to them about okay, how you should drive this specific place or this, you know, turn one and two here, you gotta watch out for this or whatever.

SPEAKER_08 55:07

It's it it's odd. I think uh I think I've learned more that everybody always wants to sit and look at uh setup, setup, setup, right? And I think that late models I've learned that there's a lot more of seat time and knowledge that goes into setup only. Um it's funny because I I Dallin, we were talking on the phone before he went to Speedweeks, and and uh Dallin and I are great friends. A lot of people don't realize that. We talked about a lot of things, and I tell them, like, I don't think you just do your best to not get spun out on your setup because there's a lot of like experience-driven things that are are gonna go into what you're gonna do in Speed Weeks. And uh if you notice and you watch a late model race, for example, let's just look back. If you go to Florence, okay, Josh Rice is in the top five. He's a local there. He's turned a million laps there. He's a badass, but he's a local there, and he's hauls ass there, right? Now you look at Josh Rice, he's on the national touring series, and he drives for uh JR or Motorsports, and really didn't have that stellar of a speed weeks, didn't have that great of a start of a year, had an okay night at Brownstown, then last night at Atomic, I think he ran third. He ran third, and you're like, holy shit, look at Josh Rice. That tells you right there how much driver experience and knowledge and seat time has into that stuff. And it actually it's refreshing to understand that you as a driver actually control more than what you really think you do, it's setup-wise. So tying into your question, yes, I I'm not the kind of guy to go ask guys how you do this and that. You kind of want to figure it out, right? But uh it definitely is huge on a lot of things. Uh I don't see how that how that cues by a lot of people.

SPEAKER_10 56:53

I don't know how it cued either. I've been pushing on it for a half hour, sorry.

SPEAKER_08 56:58

But it's it's huge, it's huge when you go to certain places. Like we're supposed to go to Makokata this weekend, and uh I've ran there a million times, and I look forward to it.

SPEAKER_03 57:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 57:09

Uh when we go to somewhere that I've never been to, not so much. You know, it's it takes I I watch a lot of video, I try to learn as much as I can watch it on the internet, but uh there's a yeah, definitely a lot that goes into that. So we we talked about your favorite late model drivers. What's your favorite racetrack? Uh similar deal here. We'll do a top three. In no particular order. Honestly, you might get five. Okay. In no particular order. Uh, we're gonna say Boon Speedway. If people haven't figured that out. Kind of figured you'd like to hear. I used to say Marshalltown until Jerry was running the track prep. Um, so that's kind of like a that deserves the hate violent.

SPEAKER_10 57:53

That's the violin. That's the violin. I feel like I feel like that, but no, that's like, no, you give me that. You you it's like Balin, the girl that's got trench, like, God dude. You know.

SPEAKER_02 58:08

I will say that violin, it's funny no matter what.

SPEAKER_08 58:11

It sucks. Nothing against Jerry, but well, it's really all against Jerry, but uh Marshall Town's probably an honorable mention these days. Uh Tipton, Tipton's in there. Uh uh Cedar Lake. I love Cedar Lake. Um they have good cheese crudes. I do. Actually, Cedar Lake has really good concessions all around. Alright. Uh really good hamburgers, honestly. All right. And I don't eat drag concessions, but it's pretty good. Alright. Uh I would say honestly, that's two. That's four. That's no. Boone, Marshalltown, Tipton. Tipton, and Cedar Lake. Marshall's an honorable mention, so that's three. Um Farmer City was pretty cool. And I'm gonna tell you when we go to Fairberry this year, Fairberry is gonna be in there, but it's not yet because I haven't been there. Right. Uh I don't know. Now I'm kind of spun out, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 59:06

Any track you absolutely dread to go to?

SPEAKER_08 59:10

Marshalltown. Honorable mention. Dead last. Marshalltown. Uh you know, I've never been any good at Deer Creek. So Deer Creek's probably on there. Ones that I'm like, eh, not too sure about that. Except for a late model. I was pretty good there in a late model, but that's it. Anything else? Terrible.

SPEAKER_11 59:31

I guess I did one of big stock art reset, too.

SPEAKER_08 59:33

Yeah, a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 59:34

Is there anything about those tracks though that makes you want to go back just to get better at them? Do you ever think about that?

SPEAKER_08 59:39

Yeah, yeah. When you suck somewhere, I'm gonna be like, why do I suck here? And it's usually me. Driving like a pussy. So want to figure that out. I've heard Jonathan say that a couple times. About himself, not about you. Honestly, probably like a few tracks that I just absolutely hate. Independence is one of them. It's never any good. And it has nothing to do with whoever preps it, nothing. It just sucks.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:01

Well, I will say that I went up there two years ago when the World of Outlaws were there, just because the World of Outlaws were there and they were having to stock ours. Set the fastest lap, won the heat race by straight away, and then started fourth and drove straight back to like 20th. Parachute out. Shock guy problem. Terrible. My fault. No, it wasn't a shot guy then. Denny was doing my shit, so it was it was alright. It was it was average. But no, I what I'm saying is they added all that new dirt. Have you raced on it since they added the new dirt? Because I've there's people. Well, I'm just saying some of my buddies that raced there, and they said that since they put that new dirt on, it's not as sandy and shitty, and it's been a lot racier, but I haven't raced on it since they've done that.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:47

So I You know, I'm not a big fan of Davenport either. Everybody raves about Davenport, not a big fan.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:54

I've only raced there once. Not a big fan.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:57

I don't know. I don't really hate places.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:59

I like racing, so I don't think that there's been a track where there's always been a ton of tracks where I'm like, I'm not coming back, and then I'll be there two weeks later. That's it's every racer, I swear.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:14

I think there's one about two miles away from here.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:16

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:16

No, I know. Have you never said that there though? I bet you have.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:21

No. Really? I don't think I ever have. Really? All right. Well, that's that. I think the last time he was there. I haven't lost a there. I have not lost a race there since Supernationals.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:33

Yeah, I know. I the one race you That I've gone to. I mean, I You went and you came over and you're like, Man, I fucking love this place.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:42

It's the Frostbuster and the salute to Veterans race. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:47

Frostbusters, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:49

So you got a salute to Vets. Yeah, that was the only one I've ever had, yeah. That's pretty cool. That was cool, yeah. Because they give out a really cool trophy. Yeah. That wooding wooden grave deal. You look up there.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:04

Yeah, I do have a couple of those.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:06

Uh pretty badass.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:08

Like the the Tornado got one of them too down at Greenfield. The first one I won at Boone uh was the boots and the and the hat. Which one did you get?

SPEAKER_08 1:02:17

Mine. Is it the machine gun? No, that machine gun one's cool. Mine is uh I don't know. Now that you say that.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:26

That was the one I won in uh Algona.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:30

I don't know what the mine is. I was honestly kind of bummed. I thought we won that rifle. Oh, the yeah, the one that they give away. I thought we got that. That was sweet. I wanted that. I actually broke the liquor bottle they gave you the other I broke it last year. I didn't realize it until Guinea. No, it was like two weeks later I saw this bottle broken. I was like, oh no. Like the trope where the trophies go in the shop, it's very condensed nowadays. There's not enough room and it must have fallen. Need a bigger shop. Need a bigger shop. Shop. Yeah. Right, right. We're working on we're working on the trophy shelf. Don't worry. You might have a chance with him. Yeah. He likes trophy shops.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:07

He likes trophies. I thought you were gonna say he likes Dylan, but man, uh he does like going to the bottom. No, he does like he does like Dylan.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:14

Even though he, I mean, he's not gonna tell Dylan. He told Dylan that when he was like, well, I'm five time.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:21

That was him telling him I do like that.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:22

Yeah, that was most definitely.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:25

Yeah. He tol Sean tolerates me.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:29

That's I mean, that's all you can ask for sometimes.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:32

Yeah. So we're going into this whole late model thing since we're in it, you know, and and you have the success that you do and you're in your modified. What kind of I mean, is the modified harder to drive than the late model? And I say I don't say as far as competition, I'm saying as far as fatigue.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:51

Well, I'll give you I'll give you I'll give you both answers to that. So you take both cars by yourself on the racetrack, uh the late model 100% all day long drives easier. Okay. Now you take both cars and put them starting sixth in the heat race, it doesn't matter who's in the heat race, but you start sixth in a heat race. I'll tell you all day long the late model is 200% harder. Because it's not only are you A, going three seconds of the lap faster, but it's B, you're getting sprayed with shit and pulling tear. Like I've I started on the front row next to Brian Shirley one night at Burlington last year, and I we started on the front row together, and I pulled a tear off before we got to turn one. Now trying to navigate going that fast and pull the tear off that quick is a lot. Uh so like take that into a fact. No, the squirrel was happy to start next to a guy like me in the heat race, like I got this one. But uh, and then on top of that, you factor in what you're getting sprayed with, how fast you're going, and then calculating how close you are to the guy in front of you as far as arrow and all that stuff, because you you see people like, oh, arrow this, arrow that. That shit's real. Yeah. Uh it's it's it's not a joke. That's not kidding. You cannot drive into the corner right behind a guy and think you're gonna turn because you have zero air on not only your nose, but your spoiler. If you turn into a guy two sideways below him, you have no arrow on your right side. It's huge. Uh one of the largest things in late model racing. It's very hard to it's very hard to actually, and until you feel it, it's hard to like actually know what it what it really feels like. Do you like the trumpet?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:28

Do we play a game? No one does impressions when we get to it. I bet we can do that. I watched one of the best ones I've ever seen done in the game. I do a lot of impressions.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:38

Uh Peyton Taylor. Your Peyton Taylor one was so it was it was awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:43

That was the first one I ever saw of you, so it was pretty good.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:52

So Peyton I think Peyton was in a in a shock.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:56

First and foremost, me and babe. We want to thank y'all for coming. We uh We put a lot of hard work into this and uh we hope y'all have a good time. Yeah Yeah Here's the thing though I don't want to see y'all walk around here without an armband on, okay? Because uh you know I don't cheat you out of your money, so uh don't cheat me out of mine.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:25

So great.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:26

We've got to get him stark.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:27

We've gotta get him to do the right foot on the left ear. That's what I'm saying. Honestly, don't even know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:32

Oh, dude. When when uh we were talking about We were at Deep South and we were talking about David's at Loxley. Yeah, Loxley, Alabama. Yeah. Oh God. And he was talking about somebody at the you know at the racetrack that if you messed with them, they'd put their right foot on your left ear quicker and you could something. And I'm like, did he just seriously say that? Yeah, he did. Yeah, he's got a lot of sayings.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:01

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:02

Oh, that's great. Classic, classic. Very, very classic.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:06

The funniest part is I quoted Peyton Taylor when I first met him. Because we met through because my first modified was a Taylor car. And I was quoting him, I think it was 2020 at Supernaturals, my first year there, and uh, we were just joking around and his babe, babe, Sean. I was messing with Peyton and she was pissed.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:25

She was like, Who's this?

SPEAKER_08 1:07:28

You know? Peyton had to be like, oh no worries, this is Dylan, you know, this is Dylan. But I was like talking like Peyton in his accent, and she was like, She was not about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:37

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:38

Well, it's weird. Like, we were talking about it like when you're just down around them all. It's our naughty. Like, dude, you pick it up. It's hard not to just the way that like the Southern, like, you know, they call curly fries sidewinders. Rattlesnakes.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:53

You know, like, I mean, just a different terminology of things, and you it's catchy. What's funny is he will not to this day start his driver's meetings like I just did because the very it was like two years ago. It was me and Tanner Branch at his driver's meeting. He did it the first night, and then we made fun of him the second night. That alright, y'all, gather on in. He does that, but then he does not hit it with the first and foremost, me and babe. He don't do that anymore. He purposely changes it. He doesn't do it. You broke him. You broke him, gave it up for Lent.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:26

It's a little funny though. Funniest thing I saw the whole week was when you looked at Kyle and said, You don't understand your mom's a smoke show. And Kyle just was like, You don't get it. Nope. Just don't get it. But hey, are you seriousness? Are you gonna be here uh Hawkeye Challenge, Harris Clash Time? Do you know?

SPEAKER_08 1:08:48

I I don't even know what I'm doing tomorrow. Actually, I do. I know what I'm doing tomorrow, but the next day, no. So we'll find out. It's hard telling.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:55

You might get to see hard telling not knowing. You might get to see your buddy Peyton up here.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:58

That's hard telling, not knowing. Sounds like he's gonna come soon. I do like that Hawkeye challenge, though. It's pretty cool. I've done it one time. Yeah? I've participated like four or five times. I've just never actually made the race. One time.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:10

One time. But you liked it. It was cool.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:12

Oh yeah. You see you kidding me? A chance to go out there and just wreck your shit? Right? Are you kidding me? Dude, that is that is me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:20

I told him. I said I love it because you guys only pay$500 to win the modified show. What was that?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:27

I just felt the whole table vibrate. Did you feel that? Was it your phone? No.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:31

No, the table moved. No, something. It's not that deep. Anyway, I told the guys, I'm like, I'm like, I I like it because you pay$500 to win the modified class and it's 24 cars. You pay$500 to win the Hawkeye Challenge and you're racing three cars. I thought it was a thousand, but if you win the overall overall. So it's$500 per class. And then another$500 for the overall. So I'm like, your odds are way.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:54

All I know is the one year that I ran it, me and Jeremy Mills threw sliders on each other. Like we were the only cars on the racetrack, I swear, not almost the entire time.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:03

And it was probably some of the most fun I've had. Like we're throwing sliders on each other, and then the sprint car goes by just we're like, okay, let's wait a corner till the next one.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:13

Yeah, you guys better look out because Jeremy Mills was setting lat track records. He was scooting. Saturday at the uh Annie's geared up to do some double legging. There's some shit going on. Him and Sourman. I mean Fitz. There's some can't wait. There's some shit that's gonna be going down. You're gonna have to catch it on the fly since you're gonna be ripping around the whole country racing that late model.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:35

You can watch it on IMC TV. Yeah, for only uh$28.99 and an arm an eye.$29.99 and an arm an eye.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:43

I don't know about the arm, but Yeah, it's part of it. Something like that. Hey, it's a good cut.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:48

It goes for it's usually good.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:49

It's good great. It's cheap, cheap entertainment. Cheap entertainment. 30 bucks. We're not supposed to hate on that? Alright, my bad. Nobody nobody appreciates it. No, you can hate on it all you want. I mean, I yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:58

Well, matter of fact, we have a disclaimer on our show now.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:01

It's usually on my VC box for free. If it's on there, I watch it.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:04

Okay. There you go. There you go. Um, yeah, B Dog might be listening. So we did find out that people do listen to this podcast out in the world, and uh it ruffled some feathers, so a little bit, but you know what? Not really. Because what's gonna happen? Keyboard Warrior.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:21

You know, this is you know what Roman Pierce says in Too Fast Too Furious? Don't drop the soap, big homie.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:30

Uh-huh. Just saying. Yeah, that is a very good thing to say in this situation. Right. So um, no, it it uh it puts it out there pretty pretty plainly. This is for entertainment purposes, this is our opinions. Um, it doesn't reflect Boon Speedway, IMCA, any of that. We we have our own thoughts, and if anybody didn't know that, you've never met Jonathan before. Well, apparently I've been watching the show.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:52

I don't reflect Dillon Thorn Racing at all.

unknown 1:11:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:59

Hey, on that note, should we go to a break here?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:02

Yeah, yeah. We should talk about whether or not terrific terrific food. Yeah. We are gonna go to break, but uh yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:11

One of the best meals I've had.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:13

One of the best, but great. Delicious. Uh had some pork chops stuffed with Borsan cheese. Is that what you did? It was shete and ported cheese.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:22

It was some sort of cheese, did not come from China.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:26

Yeah. Right. Uh 47, 49? Yeah. 40, yeah, sure. Uh, whatever. I was just trying to guess. That is definitely a Trump.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:38

We're here now. Yes. It's all that matters.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:41

Got it. You're right about that.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:43

Cody said it's the break. But yes, the weather not catering. Well, we were gonna grill.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:50

Yeah, we were.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:53

We had it all set up, we were gonna grill, and then uh Brett texts me, he's like, Yeah, don't eat, don't eat uh dinner, I'll be there at 6 30, and then some talk to Josh, and he's like, Well, fuck, I'm on my way to Fairway. Will you have already been at Fairway?

SPEAKER_10 1:13:10

So the asparagus and the Yater salad is in the goddamn ridge over there with with eight cones for a little dessert, but uh well, hey, sounds like dessert's on its way.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:23

We better go to break before we get to 48, Sleepy Joe. See what I'm saying? Yeah, I gotcha.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:30

Break time. I gotcha. On that note, we will send it to a break. Uh we're watching Watermelons and WhatsApp. We'll be right back.

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SPEAKER_08 1:15:35

It's mayhem. I uh I was I was recently for the last ten days, I've been in North Carolina racing with the DRT gang, and we went to uh Cherokee Speedway, the place your mama warned you about. That's their quote. The place your mama warned you about. Really? Yes. And uh mama did not warn me on practice night that she has a big berm in three and four, and I ripped the whole nose off the first lap I did around that place. Not the whole nose, but half the nose. Good enough to make damage. Um the race day. I just, you know, racing around here, you you know what it's like, okay? You go to every track, it's it's kind of the same, similar. Every once in a while you get a hobby stock, looks like some hillbillies, and you got like however many, you know, Joe, like, you know, average Joes with their sport mods, stock cars modified, and your big name hitters, right? It's pretty simple, pretty straightforward. I'm telling you, I've never seen such a thing, is what I saw down there. Pulling in the pits, you know, from from from growing up from California or really wherever you are, you kind of have learned, right, that the Confederate flag is kind of a racial thing, whether you agree with it or not, right? It's a pretty racial thing. There's four of these things flying in the infield. Oh, flying? Flying. Okay. In the wind. Four of them. As part of like the track? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, track track. Yeah, they were there for anybody else. Yeah. Okay. And like they sell trackside parking, so fans they can buy, they can wheel up to the pit gate and say, hey, we want trackside parking, whether they got 20 people in their truck or four. And it's like, I don't know, I even know how much it is. But then they pull down to the infield and they back up on the back stretch, or one and two, three and four, and they drink beer and watch the races, have a great time. So at this point, you've probably gathered. We're talking hillbillies everywhere. Like, everywhere. Just having a great time. Kids, babies, old people, young people. Weber Valley. Honestly, similar. Okay. And uh they had the Crown Vic class, which I called them taxi cabs. The taxicab class. 28 cars. A 28 car taxicab race, 15 laps. It took 43 minutes. There was a wreck out of turn two, and I think it was like a 15-year-old kid that got out of this car. And there was probably 15 people around this car trying to hook it up to the tow truck. There was police, uh police everywhere. I mean, I've never seen so many cop cars at a race, and I understand why they want to have them there. But there's people everywhere. They're hooking this car up. People are these guys that are pacing around, they're just gassing it up around this guy. I mean, we're talking massive liability. Like if I was their insurance company, they'd be dropped. And then there's a uh parking lot of a pile up in one and two, and this guy has a flat, got a flat tire. So you know what? He I mean, he's running. We're talking 21st, right? There's maybe five to go. You bet your ass for putting a tire on.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:37

Well, it's just like you late model guys.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:39

He drive yeah, similar. So he drives back to his pit, which is so far away from the track you can't see it. And he had two crew people. He had a guy that was a little bigger, he could run, and and there was an old gal. And I'm telling you, she was a solid 280. And she ran faster than the guy back to his pit to change this tire. And I still think they popped the trunk and got the spare out. I was just there. She was she was happy 1316s for the right for the first time. I'm not sure. They changed his tire, and he they waited for him, of course, because it's a south, you know, like, hey, old Billy! Belly's got a flat! We're gonna wait for him. They waited for him, he comes back out and they race, and mind you, we're 43 minutes into this race, and they get done, or whatever. We go out for this late model race, and we're sitting on the front stretch. I mean, there's so much banking, you're sitting like this, and waiting for like everybody to line up. And I'm just like, you know, it's kind of awkward sometimes you make eye contact with the grandstands. You just you don't want to be like looking, because then everybody's looking at you, so you're just like kind of like side-eye and seeing what's going on out there. There is an older male, white beard, white hair, cover or overalls on, no shirt, overalls on. One of them unbuttoned. He's walking up and down the grandstands between the track and the grandstands, like a little concrete alley, right? Waving a four-foot-long Confederate flag. Alright. Now look, like I said, you would think that the Confederate flag is some sort of racial thing, right? Not there. Not there, because the uh race director was black. Guy that ran the driver's meeting was black. Cool as shit. That guy was cool as shit. I just thought it was probably some of the craziest things I'd ever see. I saw so much in one weekend of racing. You wouldn't never see that in California, would you? You wouldn't see it in Iowa.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:43

Oh, you see it in Iowa, but no, you would not see that. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:47

I'm telling you. You would not have seen what I spectated in the state of Iowa. The amount of confuckery in one night. There was so much of it.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:59

Happens, man, on the bigger jobs. Moffat's Ford. It was March Madness. They asked? Yeah, March Madness.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:06

Moffat's Ford, they asked for mayhem when they signed on with us, and we're giving them mayhem. Mayhem. That's what we're going to do.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:11

Speaking of mayhem.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:13

I see. Yeah. So there was a fight.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:15

Was there a thunder out there?

SPEAKER_08 1:21:17

Holy shit, that thing. There's some lightning going on. There was a fight in the taxicab race.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:22

I like, okay. Oh, so that was in there.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:24

Yeah, post-race, there was an altercation between two gentlemen, and they were actually driving their cars head-on to each other so hard that the guy that ended up losing the altercation, his steering column broke out of his taxi cab.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:41

That class is growing. It is.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:44

They use the key to turn them on. Of course. Yeah. I wonder if they do something. Weren't you telling me that they do something with like the computers in them or the ECMs?

SPEAKER_11 1:21:54

No, I was just I don't know if they do. I'm just saying that it's a way to do it. Right. If I if if we had that class, you would have to get a track issue to like ECMs.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:04

No, so I have a sister. Her boyfriend races taxicabs. He was racing that night. And he was telling me they have a claim rule on the engines and the computer system and one other thing. I don't remember what the other thing was. But the engine claim rule is for like 500 bucks. You get their engine if you think it's cheated up. And uh for 250 you can get theirs. So you actually make 250 bucks on the deal, which is I think more than what the car's worth for what I gathered. And uh then they have a$75 claim rule on the computer system. So you can take their computer system for$75 if you think their shit's cheated up. So it's similar, like it's what the I'm saying claim rule was ever invented to be, yeah, really. But just wait, give it 10 years. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:48

Yeah, things could change. We got a lot going on really there, yeah. It's a hell there's a hell of a little storm, but it looks like it's gonna go just south of Boone. Yeah. So races are on, boys. We're not gonna quite get the pit passes. Go ahead and draw. We're not gonna get the thunder that we thought we were gonna get. We might hear the thunder. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:06

We just won't. It looks an experiencer. We're not canceling until after the heat races are done. Would that make us thunder buddies?

SPEAKER_11 1:23:13

Thunder buddies, yeah. Thunder buddies. Yeah. Well, anyway, let's go to the question of the week on that. Um quest telling question of the week, and it was which what IMCA racer, driver, do you think should have a shot at a tour uh would be good at a national touring series? Yep. And I don't know if you even came up, to be honest with you. I don't know. I'm gonna look at the comments from you now. I don't think I did either.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:39

There was a lot of comments. I think we might have broke a hundred. 96 comments. No kidding. Oh no, you got some people blocking you, bud. Well, yeah. Jonathan has experienced that. One of the Hall brothers.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:51

Yeah, yeah. Saw that. I'm scrolling pretty far here. Uh Jimmy Gustin. Yeah, he deserves it.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:56

There is a few guys that said the Bobcat.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:02

The Bobcat. I see right here. Trash. No, I see the Bobcat John Logue. Madden you, man. Five times. Honestly, I don't see my name at all. It's not on there. It's valid, though. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:17

The uh the mo the name that was spoken of the most on there was uh Jimmy Gustin. Yeah. Jimmy's on there a lot.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:29

Do you think Jammer could swing a scroll?

SPEAKER_10 1:24:31

Jammer Jammer could have swung a national touring series back when he was burning people's houses down for claiming his motors.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:37

Uh-huh. I mean, I think now that we're on NA beer, Jammer, Jammer, I don't think so. Don't think so.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:43

I mean he You think he can wheel it? Oh yeah. Jimmy's a wheel. Oh, for sure. Uh my dad always used to say that when Jimmy would pick up a car, a new car, if he brought it back in 20 nights to get his other new car or whatever, how many over nights it was, basically you just double the amount of nights because of how hard and how you know what I'm saying? Like just he just put the money.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:10

Yeah, he knows because he had to work on his shit.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:12

Right, right. Just how hard Jim drives that stuff and and just how far he pushes the envelope, you know, with it. And I mean, he's savage.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:23

He gets everything out of it. Right, right. He did tell me, so I ran into him at Boone. He's doing a little concrete workforce out there. And uh he said that he's having so much fun in the stock car that it's just it's like taking him back, you know. And we talked about the hobby stock days a little bit. Yeah. How Grandpa Dick took his motor away from him and gave it to Richie.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:43

Yeah, he he sent me some pictures of him and dad back in the day when Jim used to carry the left front 19 inches off the ground. And it's just like, man, I like remember those days, you know. Like Jim always says my dad's his hero, and Jimmy is my hero, you know, one of my racing heroes, and and that's still doing it, and I love to see I love racing with him. Actually, I don't like ra I mean I like racing with him, but I don't because he's a fucker.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:13

You know, like well he got you last year, didn't he?

SPEAKER_10 1:26:16

Oh, he got me, oh yeah, several times. And then he was more upset about it than I was. And I'm like, I mean, I want to get that win at Marshalltown, but a rage car still won, so I don't really care, you know. Sure, yeah. Sure. But uh just racing with him, like him and Jeff, you know, Mueller, uh Jimmy.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:31

I love when Jimmy wins.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:33

He sideswipes Jeff's car, you know, with the new wrap on it, like, don't even give a shit. Because he's, you know, I just shit like that.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:42

My favorite Jimmy Gusson win was when he won that qualifier boon one year, and I think I was standing on the back stretch, and he's coming down the backstretch after the checkered. I was so excited. Like they could they were not stopping. I was so pumped. And he even told me that he still remembers to this day how far out I was standing when he after he won that race. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:00

Yeah. Jimmy's one of the OGs. Like that's for me, like, it's just nostalgic, you know. Yeah. I remember him when I started racing, you know, and he had he'd been in doing it a few years, you know, obviously from the carts and everything else, but the big cars and just watching him and watching him on the track was something to see. And and then when he went in the mod and his he pretty well just took right to that. And oh yeah. You know, has his success over the years and and Jimmy's just a good dude. But I mean and Monica, she's pretty good shit. Right. She keeps him in order.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:36

You know, there was some there was some old names on that list that I seen, you know, Bill Davis, Dave Farron, uh John Logan. Oh my dad. Um you know, like I I feel like, man, there's so many other people like in my uh brain, you know, uh Mark Noble, um Tommy Meyer. I don't know if you guys remember Tommy Meyer in the old sixty five, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:00

Yeah, but what's crazy is I think internet perception at that time though wasn't a thing. Yeah. So like at the at the time of Mark Noble, John Logue, uh Bill Davis like and I don't really know Bill much about Bill Davis, but I'm sure he's along the lines of them, is that at their time, based on internet perception, it wasn't a thing. So like yeah, they were they were what national guys are now. Oh yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:25

For sure.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:26

Like now with the internet and everything like that, you know, national guys I feel like get a little bit more recognition whether they are or not. Well yeah, because you can see it anywhere. I mean, like honestly, I'm I'm I'm probably a prime prime example. If Jimmy Gustin was me, you know, getting the opportunities that I've had, you know, you would easy it's it's easy to say what Jimmy's done and how badass he is and how much he deserves it. I agree with that.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:50

Yeah, for sure. That's like we talked about it, but now racing racing now is a lot of people don't a lot of people probably think that your parents sent you out here because you're from California and you came from money and you're a Thornton and Ricky's brother. You know, like you know what I'm you know what I'm saying though? Like people think of think that way. Um it's uh so to hear these stories, like back in the day, if you weren't a mechanic or had buddies that were a com uh mechanic or had a junkyard, you didn't really race. There wasn't young people that were racing back then. It was more of a crowd my age, you know, 35 and older. Right to where now we're racing against little punks and shit that are 17 and 8, which is cool. And I say punks because it really clicked in my head when my dad, you know, when he moved to a modified, he'd come walking in hat on backwards, and Bill Davis and Wayne Larson and Farron and all these old boys were like, Who's this guy? Who's this punk kid coming in here, you know? And he just earned their respect to where now I just run you over because you know, my parents will pay for it, or I've got a enough sponsor backing, or whatever the case is. Like, I feel like there was way more respect back in the day than there is now.

SPEAKER_11 1:30:17

Well, you get punched in the nose.

SPEAKER_10 1:30:18

Well, well, Tim McCready says it best. I don't know if you guys have ever seen that, but there's no consequence for anything that happens on the racetrack. Not even from the racetrack. There really isn't. I mean, oh, oh, I mean, you race me, how I'll race you if I take you out to get the black flag and I go to my pits and I can still start a B main.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:35

Well, I'll tell you that national late model scene, that's literally that. Uh, you know, a guy like me, if I start even there's been times I've started on the front row of a heat race next to Bobby or uh Ryan, uh Gus and Brian Shirley, all these people I've started on the front row next to heat race is these guys, and you know, they they drive like what they would anybody else. And for me, I'm like, whoa. Like, hey, I wouldn't I wasn't gonna drive you like that, you know, but it's like you have to. And if you're not, you're may as well not even be there. Right, right.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:06

Well, and it's just a different thing, like I everybody not that in IMCA, and this isn't a jab at anybody, but in IMCA racing, it is the quote unquote working man sport supposed to be, right? Well some people do live and die by that. Like, hey, I get off work, I go and work on my race car three or four nights a week, blah blah blah, or whatever. Then you got the guy that works on his car one day a week, or you got the guy that pays somebody to work on their car because they can't, or so that's like where why I get so pissed off and revved up and everything, is because I'm at my shop every single night and doing something, whether it it could just be anything related with the race car, working on the trailer or doing this or doing that, and then you go out there and you get you know, this is what I hate about the Boone Speedway. One of the biggest things is I get punished by the asshole that checked his oil four hours before we showed up here, aired his tires up, and we go out in a heat race, and he spins out, I have nowhere to go, and I gotta stop. Or I destroy my sixty thousand dollar race car and try to drive through him and miss him.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:19

Right.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:19

And nine times out of ten, you guys have seen it happen to me several times. It's not just me, it's everyone.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:24

I actually love I actually love that topic because it literally happened at air in Arizona last year uh for the Winter Nationals. It was, I think it was the second to last night of Winter Nationals last year. And I was running fourth, not gonna win the race, but I was running fourth and having a great week. And uh one of the best weeks, but not the greatest. And uh you like that, don't you? I do that, I love Trump. Uh I'm a Democrat, so uh the two leaders, it was Beckendorf and Braxma, they got together and they spun around, and I whoever I was either in third or fourth. I might have been in third then. I don't remember if somebody's in front of me, but either way, they wrecked with a lap car, and there was nowhere to go. I mean, zero exit. There's a wall on the outside, and there's a burn tolerant me on the inside. Nowhere to go going into one. And I slowed down as much as I could. I barely missed it, and the guy behind me was sideways and hit me like this, and we it pushed my right side, my sail panel, into the wreck. And my my sail panel's gone, right? But at the end of the day, I was inheriting the lead because the two leaders were destroyed. Okay. Well, because I was involved in the wreck, I was sent to the tail. Now, mind you, it's rubbered up. No passing. I was gonna win the race, there was three to go. Because I would have been in the lead. And I was pissed. And classic don't throw in fashion. If I'm mad, I'm gonna tell you how I feel. And I stopped on the way out of the track and I marched up into the grandstands to tell Jim Standard what an idiot he was. Because of what they called. How they called that, how can you possibly come up with that, say I'm in that wreck when there's there's four cars stopped. You know, it's not just the two leaders, it's lap cars, right? And uh I said something and he actually told me to calm down, he's gonna come to my trailer, and I said, Okay, if you come to my trailer, I'm still gonna tell you how I feel. And he did. He came down there and I told him, like, Jim, I said, You fucked me out of a thousand dollars tonight. Wow, how do you expect you're in the wreck? I said, Yeah, yeah, I was I was look at the right side of my car. I was in the wreck, right? There was nowhere else for me to go, and it ripped my right side off, but regardless, I would have won that race because I was starting on the pin with three to go in the rubber. I would have won that race. No questions asked. But instead I went from getting third place pay to dead last pay, which we all know, start pay at IMC shows, you know, hundred bucks if you're lucky. And I said, You literally screwed me. And he just couldn't put it together. I said, Okay, let me let me let me feed it to you this way. I said, Harris owns this frame, okay? The world may not know that, but they do. And I said, So next time we're in that situation, I'm not gonna crack the gas. I'll drive through that wreck wide open and blow the frame horns off this thing. And you know what's gonna happen? Whoever I hit sucks for them. Hope you can afford to buy a new one. Me? Give them a call and say, hey, we're gonna need to put a new one on the jig, we're gonna need to fix this one, and we're gonna take care of it, move on to the next one. Is that how you want this to be ran?

SPEAKER_10 1:35:15

But I mean, but it's true. That's what I'm saying. We're not we're not racing, you know, when uh when my dad owned Harris, you could put a uh Harris Auto racing car with good shit on it for twelve to fifteen thousand dollars, and that was like good shit. You know what I mean? Exactly. Like now we're building stock cars and they're you know turnkey with everything ready to go to the racetrack, you're fifty thousand dollars. That's why I did like modified or what?

SPEAKER_08 1:35:43

Modified's or what, sixty? I did like the uh uh Van Gandrin used to do it every now and again, but uh Staley does the USRA, he he makes judgment calls, and the the spin to avoid rule is one of the greatest rules in racing. Spin to avoid. If you spin to avoid and you make contact, you're in the wreck. But if you spin to avoid and don't make any contact, you are not in the wreck. Right. And and see that's and that gives you a small bit of hope, because not always can you spin to avoid and not make contact.

SPEAKER_10 1:36:15

That's true. That is very true. But but you can. Oh yeah, your point of it's kind of like when we were in Florida. Or not Florida, when we were in Loxley. Okay. We had so many people, we had two exits off that racetrack. Or excuse me, three, which really the one was dangerous. You know, to turn right to come off racetrack. You don't ever do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:36:40

But there was two ways to get off that racetrack. And in my opinion, I mean, it's not my call, it's not, I I just think about this shit. You have all the what-ifs, like, there's always the what-ifs, and there were several times on the radio, dude, it's tough. Like, you see a guy spin out, everybody's like, turn one, turn one, turn one. And then it's like, yeah, but the field is only in the middle of the back stretch. Let's give him until exit of turn four. Because in my brain, I'm in there trying to start my car because I know if I don't. Then you get the classic Jerry, of course the yellow came out, he's now he's going.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:15

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_10 1:37:16

And and I chew Jerry's ass about that all the time. I'm like, bud, don't you?

SPEAKER_08 1:37:19

I mean, I'm in there on the firewall, full crank, full hardest. I've said this before too. I'm like, Jerry, you realize the hardest time to start a fucking race car is after you spin out and turn try to turn that motor the wrong way. Right. That is the hardest time to start a race car.

SPEAKER_10 1:37:33

Right. And and and so it just makes it to where what I don't understand is that is all the officials and stuff and at these racetracks, they don't want to make judgment calls. It's no different than that time you took out Buck for that 10,000 on a bird's bill. Yeah. But you know what I'm saying? You should have been Black Flag. I didn't mean to I didn't mean to reckon. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:56

That's where I reckon I had to commit.

SPEAKER_10 1:37:58

Buck, Buck wiped me out in that same race. But my point is that they didn't make a judgment call. You know that I know that you didn't intentionally take Buck out, but you took him out.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:10

You should have been Black Flag. Funniest story from that event. Race gets over, run third, right? Call us over the scales in the infield where every crew is at, where Buck's at with his wrecked car. And I'm I'm on the scales, and and Bobcat puts my window down, and he's, I mean, he's he's he's letting me have it. And I know. I know. And this Mooney Star. Because he's better than this Mooney Star comes up and pulls Bobcat back. He says, What are you doing?

SPEAKER_07 1:38:37

And he goes, I'm just talking to my friend, bud.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:40

And this Mooney Star says, I don't talk to my friends like that.

SPEAKER_10 1:38:45

Yeah, and I said, And you know what I you know what I told Mooney? I said, Yeah. And I also make judgment calls. If my friends fucking take somebody out, you black flag the son of a bitch. We drove 26 goddamn hours down here to start 27th, drive all the way to third, and lose$8,000 because you're too big of a pussy to throw the black flag at me.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:09

Instead of out in my career, I was a holy start. I was I don't talk to my friends a lot. And guess what?

SPEAKER_10 1:39:16

I told him I said I'll never come back down here and race ever again. And guess what?

SPEAKER_08 1:39:20

Went back there?

SPEAKER_10 1:39:21

Nope. Oh, you haven't been back. I have not been back since. Okay. All right. He's hilarious. That guy's so thought. That was but that's I mean, I'm just saying, I think that I really think with all the changing things. Now, like at Supernationals. Oh, you can't. You can't. No.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:40

Well, you can't in the big shows. You can't at like the prelim features. Right. Yeah. But a heat race, a jalopy, yeah, you can't do it.

SPEAKER_10 1:39:47

I don't even think you can do it in the prelim features because you just got so much, you got so much, you got too much going on. I think it should just be.

SPEAKER_08 1:40:02

But you know what I'm saying. I like I really think. Mind you, I'm gonna tell you right now, that's real, that's not a good deal. Especially with depending on your order, your pill draw, if you if it comes to if you if you're high pills on Friday, and you guys are like all of a sudden bread on the radio, he's like, Good morning, Bim Speedway. We've decided to make it uh three cars transfer in 20 heats today. And you're like waking up and you're like, you know, rubbing your eyes, and you're like, oh, 20 heats? Oh, top three. Today's my eye pill. It's a bad day. It's a bad day. You're like, oh no. Which mind, I'm gonna tell you right now, that's that's not cool. If you're gonna do 20 heats, you gotta do it every day. That's my opinion. Did you silent him? You're silent. You're silent, because it's screwed. I'm not gonna lie, the year that I won Supernationals in the stock car, my high pill day was Friday. And it was 20 heats instead of 30, and I was like, oh my god, are you kidding me? And I made it, I got to third in the heat, and the guy ran second, got DQ'd, so I actually got second. I got to start 17th, which really was not that you know, 21 through 30 redraw versus 17th, but still, or 18th. But I ended up winning that prelim.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:18

But so what I'm hearing is this is the definition of it'll get you. Sometimes it'll give you. Exactly.

SPEAKER_10 1:41:24

It gave you but it's not in my opinion, your middle then he goes and wins the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_08 1:41:30

I was gonna say, but typical racer. It's how it happened. Your middle draw, though. You're not helping. When there's 30 heat races, your middle draw can put you starting fourth. Yeah. And that's almost the equivalent of a high, a high low draw. So, like, if you guys all of a sudden are like, ah, 20 heats now, like, and it's like your middle, your high draw, you could be starting sixth on a high on a middle draw, and you ain't starting better than eighth on a on a on a high draw.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:58

But from a show perspective, if you go to six-car heats, and like if you go to six-car heats and you leave that extra 10 in there and it drags the show out, and that I think that's where it's coming from is to to make the thing. Well that's the difference.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:15

That's the difference though. You either gotta from Wednesday 20 heats, that you can't do Wednesday, Thursday, 20 heats, Friday do 30. Or Wednesday, Thursday do 30. 30 and then Friday do 20. You I in my opinion, you can't do that because it even if it's your middle draw, like I said, come Friday, your middle draw can put you starting sixth. When it's like, oh, I still have my middle draw tomorrow, I could still maybe start fourth if I draw low. No. In my opinion, that's kind of like goes back to the just drawing out of the same bucket every night. Yeah. Because the first year I ever went to Supernationals, the very first year, 2020, with my Evo, it rained like a sunbitch.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:53

I drew it rained a lot. I drew like a 280 something, a 280-something, and a 294. All three days.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:01

Yep. We put him in the beginner's draw. Now, granted, just give him the high.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:05

Granted, granted, you could have put me a lap ahead of my heat race, and I still wasn't gonna win. Right. But still, really discouraging.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:12

That's a tough one.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:12

Right, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:14

Yeah. That was, I mean, that was part of the deal, too, is like you'd have guys that they would come, there was guys that would draw top 20 three days in a row, you know, and just have the luck.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:27

There were sacks, too. Jimmy Gusman. There were sacks, though. Jimmy Gusman. Sacks in the way. Yeah. Jimmy Mike. Like the Hall brothers guaranteed first two rows every time.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:37

They're good at drawing. I don't know why. But they are. But hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:43

I love them guys. But at that point, when do you draw the line? Look, boys, you're getting lapped four fucking times in a heat race. You're not starting up there. I don't care how pissed off you are. We don't let we don't let them anymore. But you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 1:43:59

Like, but but there was one year they did get they did sneak through. The year that I won the modified race, uh, I won my prelim on Friday. Again, 30 heats, not 20, in case you're wondering. And I was leading my heat race, and you were telling him on the radio, this Hall brother, I'm lapping him, to go low. We're going on the back stretch, and I'm like hearing this. Oh, he's gonna go low. Nah, some bitch went high.

SPEAKER_10 1:44:20

I'm going into three. I'm going into three, and I'm almost wrecking that I've like, oh no. Oh no. And that's nothing again, I'm not meaning it. Right. It's like I appreciate the fact of watching them old boys come in and wear them 70s jackets and shit and do all that and everything. But it's like, all right, come on now. God damn it. That's that's a ridiculous thing. Why are we not making a judgment call on that? But it's always worked out. You know what? There's always been for the Hall Brothers. Hey, you know, it's gonna be a sad year, the first year that they don't make it to Supernaturals because everybody expects it. Run your mouth to see them, you know, bumping their gums for real.

SPEAKER_11 1:45:05

For sure. Yep, but more Thunder Buddies out there.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:09

Next on the itinerary, lots of Thunder Buddies. What's next on it? We got through the question.

SPEAKER_11 1:45:13

Well, our guest that showed up that snuck in and Yeah, we do have to talk about our guest. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:45:20

He showed up because it is the week of the Frostbusters.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:24

It is.

SPEAKER_10 1:45:25

I was really surprised. Uh I thought it was because it was free food. Well we're talking about that guy over there. Yeah. Uh-huh. We're talking about the other guy. Um, I I mean, I don't know if we want to just go ahead and throw it out there, but Mr. Extraordinaire has showed up at the at the Bobcat. That's the guy. That's the guy. Um I felt a little weird about it, letting him in here, uh, because I wasn't really for sure. Because I do, I am Jerry's friend. Okay, right? And this guy's kind of trolling a little bit, but I also like it too. Yeah. It's kind of funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:02

Hey, don't kid yourself. Jerry likes it too. I think Jerry does. I really think Jerry does it. I always thought it was Jerry. So I did too. That's the first thing I said out of this. That's really the guy. This guy's proved it. We literally came here.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:14

I thought it was Jerry. Is that really the guy? It's really him. When we when we when this first started coming around, we came here and we're like, guys. Well, you're the extraordinary. We're like, everybody's pointing. It was the Spider-Man thing. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, guys, I don't even know how to run my own Facebook. I thought it was Jerry, honestly. Let alone, it could be Ryan, but we now know that it's not Ryan.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:36

No. We know we do know that.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:38

I uh we don't know who it is. We're gonna do a short sit-down interview.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:43

Is this what I understand?

SPEAKER_10 1:46:45

I think he wants to come on the show and uh clarify some things. This is fantastic. And I think that we're just gonna do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:52

There's nothing better than that, but this Barntown Sour is pretty close.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:57

And Cody's got one in front of him that's gonna be real familiar to you.

SPEAKER_11 1:47:01

Iowa Gold. And uh yeah, we have our Boon Speedway beer coming this weekend. So um pretty spot. The action track ale. Yes. Yep. By Barntown.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:12

Limited, limited run. This first one. First one's gonna be kind of small, but um yeah. Six dollars, get him six bucks at the session stand, cash only. Yep. Allie's got koozies for sale with them. No refunds. No, yeah, no refunds on fears.

SPEAKER_11 1:47:26

No refunds. No, I I'm excited. The the guys at Barntown Brewing have been awesome to work with. And and uh when I just when I got this idea to do it, I've it was one of those deals. I you don't know until you ask, right? Right. So asked I reached out to Joe and he was like, Yeah, we could probably do that. Like, so it's pretty sweet.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:49

Now it took a while, and we talk on the phone, and I'm like, Have you heard anything? No, I haven't heard anything. It's like you are impatient. I didn't realize very impatient, you really are. Once I get something in my head, like I've gotta have it.

SPEAKER_08 1:48:00

You know, you know why you'd be a terrible doctor? You wouldn't have any patience. My stepdad used to tell me that when I was eight. That's a pretty good that's a damn dad joke, right? I like that. He was right, I'd be a bad doctor.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:13

I like that. Well, real quick, who would be your next up and comer, next Dylan Thornton?

SPEAKER_10 1:48:19

My next Dylan Thornton to me. Um I haven't had any kids yet, so that's a tough one, man. Um it took him a minute to just I man, I don't know. I'd have to really think on that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:38

I really do.

SPEAKER_10 1:48:39

Um it's not the Jeopardy theme song. Man, I just there isn't somebody that like the last two years, there really hasn't been anybody that's just super dominant, like Dallin. Right. You know, like as far as Dallin.

SPEAKER_08 1:48:55

Love Dallin, but I wore him out of Supernationals. I'm gonna answer, it's my turn to answer. Yes. And Kid Rock, he wrote a song. Okay. What was it called? You never met a motherfucker quite like me. So Dylan Thornton chooses himself.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:10

Of course he does. Okay. One of the best, actually. Frankly.

SPEAKER_11 1:49:16

Cody, who you got? I don't know. I mean, yeah, now that he's sitting next to me, I hate to fucking say it because he's calling himself out. But yeah, Dilly, I think he really needed a shot at this deal, and it's cool that you got that opportunity. Especially with like your the story that you I mean, I knew some of it, you know. And we didn't even get to the details, right? But like it's it's pretty awesome to to see that. I think Kellen's got a shot. Kellen, oh, yes, that's another thing. Dylan is Kellen's favorite race car driver, so so Kellen must be his fortunate for for Kellen, but uh so we sat at a table together, so I took Kellen. On the national banquet last. Yeah, because after you won that your last supernationals. So Dylan texts me, he's like, Yeah, I told Virginia to put us at the same table.

SPEAKER_08 1:50:09

Well, I didn't know anybody else who was galling. I mean, it's like a bunch of guys that like ran third and points at like East Moline. Right.

SPEAKER_11 1:50:18

Yeah. So Kellen and I go out there and we're sitting next to Dylan, and Kellen got an education that day. Oh, he learned. He learned. Yeah. So it's Kellan a lot. I told him I said, Oh, Dylan's gonna be out there on the podcast. He's like, You think he remembers all that stuff he told me? I'm like, I'm very certain he remembers all the stuff he told me. Does Kellen remember it? Unfortunately, I'm more proud. I'm more proud of that. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:50:43

To me, that means more to me.

SPEAKER_11 1:50:45

Yeah, but no, Kellen, uh yeah, Kellen loves Dylan.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:49

So Colton told me he's a big Dylan Thornton dick writer. That was his actual word. He did say that. He said that. But I'm gonna go a different direction. I'm gonna go one for the old guys. I'd like to see Jeremy Mills get a turn in one. I think he could do all right at it.

SPEAKER_08 1:51:02

Jeremy's a wheel. I like Jeremy. He's a really good guy. Yeah. Jeremy's just a good guy. The dickhead, no, no, you guys.

SPEAKER_10 1:51:09

Dick still owes me a door, a hood.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:12

Uh-huh. Well, I think he owes Cody Tower panel too. I think we heard that. I think he owes him a double leg.

SPEAKER_08 1:51:18

You know how many deck panels I owe people? Don't make you a bad guy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:51:22

It's just aluminum, right? The Dylan Thornton Hate fan page. Is there a I'm sure there's one. Yeah, because everybody thinks that he got he sucked Cody off just to get that Blade Model ride and everything, even though he told us the real story. That's probably Cody with a D. Cody with a D. Actually, you know what? Since you're in with him, can you do can you see if maybe you could throw something in for all of us Iowa natives and get the goddamn date changed on the dome, other than Iowa first gun open day. It's getting gnarly out there.

SPEAKER_08 1:51:57

I'll be honest with you. I could honestly mention it and I'll tell you his exact words are gonna be. He's a fucking idiot. I don't give a fuck. It's gonna be his exact words. I tell if people ask me for pull with Cody all the time, whether it's parking at the dude. Yeah. I got pull.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:15

We want to get him to drive up to Iowa and come be on the podcast.

SPEAKER_08 1:52:18

No. No. Would he do it remotely? No. He would do it remotely, yeah. Would he? He would do it remotely. That'd be cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:25

We'd talk some smack on somebody that might have got a race from him that he was supposed to record. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_08 1:52:30

Yeah, all we do is dog on each other. Yeah, 100% he would talk shit on that. Yeah, that would be that would be cool. So Will Harrington is driving for him this weekend at With Raceway. I mean, I'm sure it's not announced yet, but you know, whatever. It doesn't matter. But we've been just dogging on each other for it. Constantly. Constantly. Love it. We dog on each other all the time. Love it. Fair enough.

SPEAKER_11 1:52:56

Well, yeah. I think we're gonna get the extraordinaire. Yep. We'll uh he well he wants to do he wants to do the interview.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:04

Like a closed session, kind of? Yeah. Kind of like a 60 minutes.

SPEAKER_11 1:53:08

Yeah, we'll splice it in. We'll split have G splice it in. But uh What is this like uh uh Chris Hansen kind of? It could be, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:18

Yeah, I don't know that it's a complete setup deal like the old sit on the barstool over there. Want some pizza?

SPEAKER_11 1:53:28

What you got in your backpack there? Yeah but uh so from our perspective, should we wrap this up and then we'll throw we'll throw in the episode 27. Extraordinary wants a separate. He doesn't want to be on the show.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:44

Look, episode 27, come to an end at 38 minutes right here. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:48

Uh yeah, we have to. Yep, 38, 38. Look at that. Hopefully we get around the frostbuster this weekend. Not looking that great right at the moment. Nope, not looking good. So fantastic. It doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. Not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_11 1:54:00

That storm blowing through here does not look that's a hell of a start.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:03

It's Monday, but yeah, I don't think it's gonna happen either. So cloud seeding, they're seeding the clouds.

SPEAKER_07 1:54:09

The chemtrails.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:11

No, those are chemtrails are different.

SPEAKER_07 1:54:13

The government, they're seeding the clouds, manipulate the weather.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:16

Well, we made it to 39. Yeah, I can't follow that. But hey, I'm not joking, cloud seeding is real. I'm sure it is. I know it is in Japan.

SPEAKER_10 1:54:26

Dylan also thinks that the world is flat, not around.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:29

Oh no. I think it's triangular shaped. I don't think it's flat or round. I'm just telling you, cloud seating is real. Jeffrey Epstein is alive on TikTok. It's Palm Beach Pete. Um, some of the most famous world leaders are reincarnated over and over and over again and they get younger. Um we're going off rails here, man. I want to see how far he's gonna go. P. Diddy is also alive. Okay. Okay, so he's on the TikTok as well. But I'm telling you, Palm Beach Pete, that's the biggest one of all of them. That is Jeffrey Epstein. Look, if you look up Palm Beat you guys are acting like you don't even know what to talk about. I don't even know if it's not. Look up Palm Beach Pete on TikTok, and I'm telling you, you'll see it. Palm Beach Pete is Jeffrey. Tell me. See? Palm Beach Pete is Jeffrey Epstein.

SPEAKER_10 1:55:18

He's been quiet the entire time.

SPEAKER_08 1:55:22

It's Jeffrey Epstein. And then you'll get down this rabbit hole and you'll start seeing about how Ellen used to always reference the word pizza. Oh, yeah, she did. Pizza parties? Telling you, dude, the Epstein files are deep. They pay you to get in them and you can't leave. I've seen it all. Not all of it, but I've seen enough of it. I've seen enough of it to know it's not right. They didn't traffic you, did they? Your cutout. No, they wanted me to turn left and I turned right. I would take that 50 million, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:52

Well, I think I, yeah, we could all find something to do with that.

SPEAKER_08 1:55:55

Yeah. That's no shit. I made me a long-nosed peat, it'd be blue. S. SNS.

SPEAKER_11 1:56:02

Yeah, there you go. All right. Wrapping it up. Yeah. Hey, on that note, we do want to. Yes. We already heard. You're not getting out of this. We want to thank Central Iowa decent performance. Moffitt's Ford Adobe Lounge. Which we will have to Enterprises.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:19

We didn't have any power rankings this week for the Adobe Lounge, but we're hoping we will next week. We'll see. We'll see how the Frostbuster will go. Go off.

SPEAKER_11 1:56:26

Yeah, go off that.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:27

Thanks, John and Steph.

SPEAKER_08 1:56:29

DTR Enterprises, LLC. 805-714-3890. 281-330-8004. It's Mike Jones up on the low because Mike Jones is about to blow.

SPEAKER_11 1:56:43

We've lost all control again. But uh, who else am I forgetting? Performance bodies. Um couple weeks we'll start doing those trophies. Um Log Fab, P1, P Canopy. Um, what else we got? Barntown. Barntown.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:00

Better Elmquest Towing.

SPEAKER_11 1:57:02

Elmquist towing. Yes. Yep. So our list is getting longer. So whether or not for bringing the food.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:08

Yep. So amazing stuff. Anyone that's listening, obviously, you know, thanks everybody for uh liking, subscribing, hitting those buttons, comment, everything. It all means a lot. So we appreciate you.

SPEAKER_11 1:57:20

Yeah, and if you do want to bring us food, that is fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:23

We're always lined up for that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:57:25

Hell yeah. But uh hey, we want to thank Dylan. Dylan, honestly, though. Yeah, thanks a lot, Dylan. Thanks for coming down here and dealing with us and jumping on and telling your story. It was pretty cool. Hey, I'm like a fat checker prom. I'm just happy to be here. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:36

I thought you were gonna say Jonathan was gonna try to ride you. I've had a few salves.

SPEAKER_11 1:57:44

Anyway, episode 27 in the books. Thank you guys for tuning in. We'll see you next week on Watermelon Wood Chips. Thank you. And uh we did find Jay Van, an ounter extraordinaire. And uh what what made you decide that you wanted to jump on here and just uh and and speak to the people?

SPEAKER_01 1:58:35

Well, I really just needed to get through the people and let it know how fucking great I am. I mean pretty much the greatest promoter there ever was is. You know, announcing-wise, I'm I'm top list of everybody. It's just killing it, I just need to get it out there seeing you guys are getting some views, so I figure I'd hop on here and just let you know how good I am.

SPEAKER_11 1:58:59

Well, you had a practice at Marshalltown on Sunday. Let us know how that how that went there.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:07

Uh practice went pretty pretty good. We started early, the track got dry, Robbie rubbered up, Mom Lane, you know, Markstown used rubbers up, uh sessions were open, we we were selling shit out of there, you know, year old hot dogs. Uh Blizzards from last year were uh on sale. You know, I heard another track, didn't even open their concessions for their practice, so we're we're doing good there. The Berg's was good. Uh unfortunately the time you live, we were having some inches of the day, I couldn't get that turned on. Uh we come prosbusters. If we race, you're probably not gonna race, probably cancel it. But if we race on the frostbuster, don't have that time you loop off.

SPEAKER_11 1:59:51

While you're entering your fifth year of your contract at Marshall Town Speedway, what's what's the big plans for this year?

SPEAKER_01 1:59:58

Well, this year, really, plans are just we're just gonna try to race. I think we had about seven nights last year, hoping to get eight in this year. Uh we're gonna keep the grandstands as dusty as ever. The if you want to watch from Pittside, good luck. Go ahead and find a seat, I guess. I don't know. Uh the plans are just race a little more. We're gonna keep pay low. Pay's always gonna be low. And uh this is how we're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_11 2:00:28

Uh talk about some specials coming up. You know, I'm surprised you don't have your own race.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:34

Well, we are working on the the J Zan 500. Uh probably 70 laughs. Rubber after 20. Race in the rubber. Um 70 laugher, you know, maybe a break in the middle so I can talk a little bit and promote myself. Let everybody know what I got going on and coming up. Uh just working on some crazy stuff. Probably see if I can't get a late model show in. Uh see if I can't re find another class to come join this circus we run here at Marshalltown. Eight classes ain't enough to figure I'd bump it up to twelve. Twelve classes? I'm trying! What are you gonna add? We're gonna make some shit up. We're gonna we're gonna make some shit up. We're gonna see if we can't get some uh front-wheel drives weekly, trucks, bring trucks in, they're always a good show. We get about six of 'em. Uh I don't know, maybe like I said, make some stuff up, maybe bring in them micros that come every once in a while. So you're planning on doing this all weekly, yeah? Every every night. Every night we race, which is about five nights a year on average anymore. Uh maybe, maybe I'm talking about some lawnmowers out there.

SPEAKER_11 2:01:49

You know, you have taken a liking to the track prep over there, and you've done some other other racetracks. Um, what have you learned from you know prepping racetracks on Marshalltown Speedway?

SPEAKER_01 2:02:00

Oh, so by being that boon, I've learned a lot from the track doctor. Uh, usually I go over uh three or four nights a week. I like to run the sheep's foot. I turn it on, fire it up, running around, make sure my Snapchat's going. I bet everybody know I'm sheep's foot in it. Make about a lap, lap and a half, pull back down to the infield, turn it off, and I go home tonight. Usually play that stupid game, the run-out of gas game, and little does everybody know it's just my fuel gauge don't fucking work, so that's just it's the game I play, but it's just a lie the whole time.

SPEAKER_11 2:02:33

You know, when you go to track prep, we see on Snapchat, probably four or five days a week, you know, fire up the water truck. Kind of talk us through that process.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:44

Well, I usually just go over there, fire it with a water truck, make sure the battery ain't dead, let it run for about ten minutes in the pit, and I just shut it back off. I don't need no water on that track. The track's good. Uh the boom people, they like to run a lot of water. I don't get it. Uh a rubber track's a good track, it's smooth. I'm not sure what the whole ordeal is with this watering thing. It's I guess people like it, so I show them a little water truck every once in a while, and I just get back into grader and grade the shit out of my truck.

SPEAKER_11 2:03:15

Well, we're gonna wrap things up here with you, J-Vann. We appreciate your time. Is there anything that you got on the schedule, announcing wise, track prep wise, anything you want to let us know about?

SPEAKER_01 2:03:26

Uh yeah, probably the biggest one I got coming up, there's one on Beatrice where myself, Kenny Wallace, Jordan Grobowski, uh Kenny Schrader, we're gonna be down there doing autograph sessions, and so if you want to come get your autograph from the one homie, Jave Ham, then come on down and get it, and maybe Kenny might sign your ship too.

SPEAKER_11 2:03:46

Well, hey, we appreciate it, and uh, you know, we're we're glad you you joined Watermelons and Wood Chips after dark. Got the people, got the information out there, you know.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:57

The information's out there, and I hope people I hope I get a couple more people in the stands this year over there at Markstow. Don't come to the pits because I don't got room for you, but we got plenty of room in the grandstands and where you get dusted out all day and just love racing, just come home and get dirty.