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Watermelons & Woodchips Episode 29: Bill Bushore
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W&W Presented by Central Iowa Diesel Performance Episode 29 with Moingona, IA's own Bill Bushore. Bill has a long history in auto racing starting in 1968 and has worked with some of the best and most influential people in the industry in his 58 year racing career. The boys dove into some topics such as the V6 engine experiment, his racing with Bill Davis Sr, John Logue, Denny Stoneburner, and his own son Joel. The boys also recapped the results from Saturday night's season opener and talked about ways to improve. The boys all talked about some of their personal racing influences in their careers as well.
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SPEAKER_07Welcome, race vans, watermelons and wood chips, presented by Central Iowa Diesel Performance episode 29. And we got our first week of racing in, and we're all still here, so that's good. We have Josh, Josh Reynolds, our general manager to the right. I'm Cody Malicote, Jonathan Logue, all the way to the left, our resident stock car driver, and uh Bill Bashore with us today. Um so we got a pretty cool show planned, and I'm excited, man. I like we were just talking to Bill off air. We've been pretty pumped up about this since last night.
SPEAKER_08Well, I it got me revved up. Like I said, we talked about you last week a little bit, how well hopefully it was it was good.
SPEAKER_05Hopefully it was good because I had 50-50 on that.
SPEAKER_08No, no, I just hadn't seen you in a while, and I just admire how well your hips you can bend at your hips and work on shit. And I told the boys, I'm like, man, we get to the racetrack, and I come out of the trailer, or was that practice is one I was referring to, and you guys were you were I think you were changing that starter because you guys had some battery trouble, and I look I come out of the trailer and I look over and I see you over there, and you're you're stiff legged and bent clear over working on the ground, basically, you know. You know what you do.
SPEAKER_05I'm like, I'm like, my prosthetic hip works fine. I just don't have no knees left. Right.
SPEAKER_08Oh, I know what's going on, and I'm just but like I always give Joel shit. I'm just always like, man, seeing your dad, you know, we come down and use the frame rack earlier this week, and uh I hadn't seen Joel in a while, and him and Danny were tuning on the boat on the in the in the old transmission shop there, and I'm like, dude, I'm like, can we get your dad a new set of knees yet, or what? And he's like, you know, and I'm like, well, I just I admire his bend over, you know, working on shit. Oh, I've I mean I've only seen it for 13 seasons of my racing career.
SPEAKER_07So Yeah, no, and and we got I mean, the first night of racing was not a typical night. Well, I guess it is a typical night in Boon Speedway fashion, but it has been.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. No, we uh I tell you, we gotta add to Jonathan's profile though. Stock car driver. Log fab. Track prep extraordinaire, jump, jump, oh track pack extraordinaire. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Sorry, God. It's messed up. Listen to it.
SPEAKER_06It just does the same thing now.
SPEAKER_08I'm gonna have to find a new one.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah. We gotta get Weirs talked into doing a billet one for you. We'll get that solved. But yeah, no, it was kind of a wild like that rain wasn't supposed to hit us. Like, it's just one of them deals.
SPEAKER_07There was nothing on the radar.
SPEAKER_06And all of a sudden there was.
SPEAKER_07So we were standing there and I was talking to Jeff when he was grilling those uh in the concession stand, the grilling the burgers on the outside, and I'm like, hey, I got this tent, like it's got a vent in it, pretty sweet deal. Like, you throw it under there. No, no, I'm okay. I'm okay. And Josh walks around the corner and he's like, You might want to get that damn tent up because the radar does not look good. And I'm like, what is he talking about? And like that cell hit the river and it just went whew. Yep, and it was all red. It was as red as John's race car. A lot of times they hit the river and it shrinks down. You're right.
SPEAKER_06But no, not this time. Uh I think there was a little bit of juice over there in Mongona area added to it or something. You cloud seed cloud seed more there? Exactly.
SPEAKER_05Every time it rains saves me money.
SPEAKER_08Well, Bill's got the uh an open motor back in, so he called for a little rain. All right. Wanted to hear the old the old needed some traction.
SPEAKER_06The old pony doodle talking. They were singing last night, all of them. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05You could hear them. Oh, it's an open motor, but it's a neutered one. Yeah. Nine to one.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Well, we had uh 192 cars.
SPEAKER_06I think that's what we ended up with. Yep.
SPEAKER_07192 cars. And I dude, I I still think this he might be Rain Man too, because we were just joking around before the races, and I'm like, somebody goes, or I said, How many cars do you think it is? And he's like, I don't know, it looks like 151. And yeah, Josh was like, no way. Pulls his phone open, it was 152. Yeah. And I said, and the only reason it was 152 is because Buck left and then came back in. Well, and and here's the other thing, too.
SPEAKER_08Okay, because saw you uh keyboard warriors out there. We were in a little powwow, so no, I wasn't looking up on my race pass.
SPEAKER_06You were up in there for a management meeting, I thought. Isn't that what that was?
SPEAKER_08Yep, and just like I said, here's my address. I'll expect my W-2 late September or uh or late February next year.
SPEAKER_06W2 seven W-2s we can handle. Paychecks not so much, but anyway. Figures. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Uh so yeah, kind of a wild deal. Just went up there to have a little powwow with uh our fellow colleagues. And uh, you know, I'll be for real. I wanted to see what was going on and what the call was going to be made and uh everything. And then, you know, back when I was growing up, we've talked about this several times, like it just brought back um some of the old days of racing where you had to um Lottie would get on that loudspeaker and and and start screaming if you didn't get out. Not screaming, but just Oh yeah, no, he was screaming. Well, but you know, like just sometimes how he talks is is it comes off as he's being very barky. Okay. And uh so we were probably an hour into the track prep session, you know, and uh just kind of looking around and I walk back across the track and I'm like over the trailer, and everybody's got their stuff loaded up, and everybody's kind of just hanging around, and Dustin is like a huge freak about how clean our race car is, like you know, and so like I don't ever really go out and pack the tracks, but usually if we're in a scenario like that, I'm like always the first guy out there because I want to race too. And I'm like, what an effort by the Boone Speedway. Last night, I mean everybody was bitching, but at the same time, nobody left. You know, uh there was a few people that left when the rain started, but after they started getting the John Deere's out there and really rolling that sucker in, everybody just kind of went stagnant and was going and get checking out the new concession stand stuff, which you guys really dropped the goddamn ball on that. And I mean we ran out of crispitos before beam inked.
SPEAKER_06It's uh it's being addressed. Uh we're gonna have to buy a new freezer and fill them full of cruspedos in the in the pit side, apparently, Cody, because they were very popular.
SPEAKER_07I mean they blew through them.
SPEAKER_06Uh apparently, yes. Uh no, with no odega. Like we gotta get the odega anyway.
SPEAKER_08Well, and see here's the other thing, too. Like, I I like the Odega, but I really am a like guy for the nacho cheese on him, too. Oh, yeah. So I kind of figured since they didn't have the Ortega that maybe people were gonna go with the cheese option, but uh we run out of hamburgers on the pit side. We um they sold it all.
SPEAKER_06They sold it all. Oh, that's fantastic.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I mean it's fantastic, but you guys lost money. Yeah, we were we could not be having that concession. I mean, we were hungry at 10 30 during the features. That's true. Yeah, it got so excellent, excellent job to all the staff, however, because uh I did hear good things, I heard bad things. Um, which was great, which I told everybody. I'm like, I don't know why you guys are coming to my pit stall, but the guys that know what's going on and make the calls are over there.
SPEAKER_06They saw you walk over there and come up in the back. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, you left the secret meeting and then I saw you come back across. However, I was pissed that I didn't have a headset like I was promised with the channel and everything on it. Dad was a little upset about it.
SPEAKER_06We had some radio issues last night. We're gonna try and get them resolved. I think we've got an extra one. I'll get with Tommy. But he he's that extra facial hair Tommy's got going right now. I think it's messing with his mind a little bit.
SPEAKER_08Well, I was shocked literally. I opened up the door to when I had walked back across from the cookie milk talk. And I opened up the door and I'm like, holy shit, what is on your face? And he's like, I mean, in my whole 35 years of going to the Boon Speedway, I've never seen Tommy with facial hair.
SPEAKER_06Yep.
SPEAKER_08And uh he goes, Well, I retired, so I can have a little hair. He's even got the little legs on it. But uh nice, super nice to hear that uh Boom Speedway Pit announce her voice. Logan uh come over and you know was a dick as usual during the pit meeting.
SPEAKER_07I I even said like in the when I started, I'm like, Alright, it's first night. I don't have to be a jerk. Yeah, guys, this is awesome. Logan's like, you Logan's sitting there with me, you know, and he's like, Well, you can if you want. He jumps on. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Uh you know, he did uh he took a great three-wide picture of us packing the racetrack. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Um I thought that was staged. When I saw that, I looked at it for a minute. I'm like, he really just took that as you guys were coming by.
SPEAKER_08Well, yeah, because so here's the thing. If uh let's rewind a little bit. So we I get back over to the trailer and I call Josh and I'm like, hey, uh do you think Rod's gonna get pissed if like I just go out there? And he's like, Hold on, let me ask Sarah. And I'm thinking, Aren't you the GM? Uh and then I'm like, hold on, okay. Rod is the GM of the track. Josh is the GM of the booth, and everything else that's going on, right?
SPEAKER_06Sort of. Sarah's also the GM of Rod. Right. That's why I talked to you. She has been for 35 years. Yes. But she has a direct line of communication that I just wanted to say, hey, you know, yes, that is the super channel. Now, is that another channel or is that a phone deal? Super married secret channel. Okay, fine. But uh, yeah, I just wanted to ask, you know, hey, has he and she's like, I don't think he's called for him yet. And I'm like, okay, and then I next thing I know, I hear, and I look over and it's Cody, and he goes, and I look over and I see the 69 coming right now.
SPEAKER_08Here we go. Well, I did try to make it clear to Josh. I'm like, okay, well, I'm gonna wait a little bit. Well, then the little bit was from the time I got from the edge of the racetrack over to the back of my car.
SPEAKER_07And you're like, I'm getting in. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08I look, well, because everybody's like standing around, you know, and and Cam Reimers is like, he's like, I'm like, we, you know, well no, I'm like, I'm gonna go out there and pack. He goes, No, you won't, you know, and I'm like, yeah, I will. You can you can unload your shit box and come out with us. Oh man, I don't know. He was eating a walking taco. But uh, I so I was like, I told him, I'm like, let's unstrap it, you know. And then I went, I even went over and had to reinsure it with my dad a little bit. I'm like, do you think he goes, fucking right, it'll be it'll be good. Get them cars out there, get more tires, more, you know, everything out there. And I'm like, okay, because sometimes I understand why Rod and the guys don't want the cars out there at times because of how they're working.
SPEAKER_05Right. You don't need to have you don't need to have a race car in the way of a 30,000 pound tractor and a and a packer. Right. And if you're in their way and they're halfway up on the track, they were sliding down the hill, they need to keep their momentum up, and they don't need to be looking for 50 race cars, but and and that that's why when I went out there, you know, like first of all, I I okay, I I backed the car out, we tear the plastic off, and everybody's just looking at me like you're an idiot, you know. And I'm just we had that discussion when you were doing that. Yeah. I figured you had a new pressure washer that you needed to check out and see how good it worked, packing that new car full of mud.
SPEAKER_08We we do have a good uh wash bay setup here. When you're an only child, you get spoiled a little bit. I do have a nice wash bay. Now, it did take us three and a half hours to wash the car and shit today. But I what made me decide to go out, Bill, was when they first started going around there, you know, the mud's like doing all this shit all over everything. Oh, yeah. Well, when they when I walked back across the racetrack, it was more just kind of like, you know, like not doing it as much. So I'm like, it'll be alright.
SPEAKER_06It was starting to tack up a little. Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05It was exceptionally wet when they started, but 35 years ago, when you pulled out on the racetrack, that's what we wheel packed on every week. That's I mean, that was common. When you went to the racetrack, everybody expected they had to wheel pack. And obviously, since uh the tracks went with a drier, better prepped surface with the equipment, and obviously I've known Lottie since 1981 when he took the track over, and he single-handedly has changed computer track racing nationwide with his track prep procedure and his racing procedure in general. I mean one r one race on the track and two lined up in the pit area, that procedure. Now everybody does that. Right. You know, the one spin rule, all that stuff he implemented.
SPEAKER_08He was a dick about it all them years too. He's been the same thing, isn't it? You've been you've been around him longer than all of us. How many times have you ever seen him get knocked out? Just a couple? Just once at Des Moines.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Kellen Kellen knocked him off a four-wheeler one night night at Des Moines. I mean, totally, totally cartwheeled him off the back of his four-wheeler. And you know what he did? Got up, dusted himself off, picked up his wire glasses, and stuck them back on his face and said, That's gonna cost you two weeks. You're out of here. It's like, two weeks? I figured it was a death penalty. Right. Well, I mean But he can do the math. Them boys brought a lot of people to the fairgrounds. It's like, I know how much it's gonna cost me to have him gone for more than two weeks. He didn't hit me that hard.
SPEAKER_08Right, right. Well, and and you know, so like the track pack thing, so I like I I back out, I I pull out there, and I just see, you know, everybody. It was like supernaturals when it rains. Everybody's up on the grass, everybody's standing around, and I'm like, I pull out there and I'm like, I am roosting every single person standing in turn two. I'm doing it, you know. And funny story, Jake McBurney calls me today, which that I'm gonna bring this up a little bit later. But I that but he he goes, Bud, you splatted dad. He goes, I walk over there and dad's got mud a whole friggin' goes, he goes and Jake goes, bud, what what happened? Joe goes, fucking Jonathan's braid move. And and everybody over there, because I even gave him the like, hey, I'm gonna turn here and get my wheels back and stand on it, and nobody moves. So I'm like, eh. So anybody that listens to the show, if we go out onto the racetrack, whether it be hot laps, because uh I'm gonna do this regardless, I don't care. Or to pack the track, if you don't think that I'm not gonna roost your ass, somehow I'm gonna. That's just what I'm gonna do. Because Jimmy Gustin did it to me one time with I had my helmet on and everything, and he's like doing this, you know, and he just whoop! I mean, and so then now I have mud in my eyes, like, and it mud hurts in your eyes, right? Like, I'm we're trying to hot lap. So ever since then, I mean, I've done it to Buck, I've done it to Matt. I've I mean it's a thing. So watch out for that. So we come around there, and when I get onto the front stretch, like the people in the grandstands are jacked up. They're going nuts. They were the kids are coming down to the fence, and there is an art to uh doing it. You you gotta really pay attention. Those tractors, like Bill said, are are super heavy. They're uh we're we're pretty light, so you gotta keep your speed up and it drives me nuts. Like, if you slow down on the racetrack because of another car in front of you, just swerve and get out of the way. Just swerve around, you know, like be smart about it. I'm saying, and just maneuver around the tractors. You know how fast they're going. They're not changing their speed usually at this point. So I just kind of weaved, and and that's what happened with Buck and Garrett and I is here they come, you know, on the outside, and I'm like, oh, there's a hole, I'm going for it. So then I pull up and Garrett's throwing dirt clods, and Buck, we're throwing it down, and I mean, it was just like Bill said, back in the day when we were kids going to the racetrack, everybody packed the racetrack.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that that gave the pit crew guys and your buddy a chance to make a lap around the track, going five mile an hour and backwards and yeah, people would usually pile into the cars and you go out and you know, burn a couple of rods and come in.
SPEAKER_07I still remember back it would have been whenever when Jason had a stock car, um it would have been 2002, I think. That first year he had a stock car, and they're like, hey, you hop in there and go take it out there. And I'm like, I was probably 14 or 15 at the time, and I'm like, This is awesome.
SPEAKER_08We talked about that in an old study hall for weeks afterwards.
SPEAKER_06There used to be, I mean, I remember modified there'd be guy guys like sitting on the deck. Their stock cars and hobbies are sitting in the back window, like it was it was a big deal. I we loved it, yeah.
SPEAKER_08But it just so like, and sometimes all it takes is you know, like Rod and them. I'm I'm thinking at this point, they've been out there for almost two hours. Well, at least an hour, an hour and a half. Wow. It's like there's a hundred and fifty cars. At that time, I still thought there was 150 cars.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, there's 40 sitting in the parking lot that decided to come in.
SPEAKER_08Right. And it's like, you know what, I'm just gonna go out there and I when I get out there, Rod, he just gives me that that little side-eye look, like, okay, bud. You know, like, and then all of a sudden I'm the only one out there, and I'm looking, and people are taking pictures and doing all this and that and everything. Uh, did you guys see me lose my hat? Yeah, one and two.
SPEAKER_07So he's talking about not stopping on the racetrack. He got out of his car to pick his hat up.
SPEAKER_08Well, we had worked it in at this at this point. We had been around, I'd been around it probably a hundred times at this point, maybe. I mean, it felt like. And so I'm like, I'm gonna gas this thing up and just see how sloppy it is. We've been up on the top, like it feels pretty good. I gas it literally, and it just rips it off, and I'm like, oh man, and it was my black uh performance bodies hat. So I'm like, I really hope nobody runs it over. So then I so I hurry up and speed around, and I I'm like, there it is. So I stop and I get out and put my hat back on and hanker, like what? And I'm like, I lost my hat. Now, if I would have had my radio, I could have communicated that with everybody.
SPEAKER_06So we'll work on that. All right.
SPEAKER_07That's uh well, and when he the first time he came around, everybody's going nuts, and he's just fist pumping everybody.
SPEAKER_08Well, it's like like we've been we've been there for, like I said, an hour and a half, and everybody's like, oh man, you know, they're going up, getting food, sitting bullshit and shooting the shit. I mean, it was great. Like uh, I was like, it was like just a little hype up, right?
SPEAKER_07And then all of a sudden you get another car, another car, another car. And then by the end of it, we had five sessions of cars to left back. Staging was full.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, they were trying to flag me off. Sorry, Foxman and Larry. They were trying to flag me off. And I'm like, bullshit, I started this. I'm saying I'm getting another lap. Right. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_06You know, even pack in the track, he's gonna get another lap.
SPEAKER_08Right. So um, yeah, it just uh I mean it sped it up. I mean it sped it up a I mean I don't I think it only took a good 20 minutes or so after everybody was out there, you know, before they were like, all right, okay, we've got it to a position to where now let's do some hot laps. Like we kind of thought, uh, I think a lot of people thought, okay, he's just gonna go get the greater and scrape all that muck off down to the infield because we all know how it works, right? We uh sheep's foot, create a base, and then we've got a three-inch layer on top that we work with and fluff and roll back in, and that's what we race on, right?
SPEAKER_05So um they have all that dirt kicked over the edge of the hill before the end of the summer. We need to leave it on there. Right, right.
SPEAKER_08But you know what I'm saying? I just how muddy it was, because you could tell that underneath of there, because Brett, when we were in the tower, was like, man, look at those frickin' the Packers, you know, like they were bouncing around really bad. Big dirt clods just but the racetrack was smooth, right? I mean, when we raced on it, it was smooth. Now there was a curb, par for the course. Yep. Um, you know, we had uh we drew the 83, which was bullshit, by the way. Sarah, thanks. So we we we started ninth in our heat race, first heat. Um the racetrack was the same for everybody. We drove up to seventh. Uh, but it was one of them deals where you know you get out of that lane that we had worked in really because it almost the track looked really good. We go out and we hot lap, they come out, they roll it in, we start heat races, the track looked good for the few few. And all of a sudden it was like more moisture started coming up and it started getting kind of shittier, you know, and to where it was wasn't really you had to make a move in the first couple laps.
SPEAKER_06Just kind of goes through that phase, like you said, it's good and then it it 'cause yeah, then when that moisture comes up again to more moisture, like it's just flopped it up a little bit to where there wasn't really two actual lanes.
SPEAKER_08Like there was like a lane and a half. Well then um so it just is what it is. You know, I'm I'm we're gonna be main. We start second row inside, uh raced against one of the all-time greats at uh the Moon Speedway, Robert Stoffer. You dick, you put a rub mark on my brand new body for in a B main. Uh anyway, I mean uh you know.
SPEAKER_06But you got your first race one of the year. Hey, some guys never win a B main job.
SPEAKER_08That's true. But hey, I that's another point I want to bring up, and we'll get to that here in a little bit.
SPEAKER_06But uh, I'm telling you, it's gonna be a good one. And we got Bill on the room.
SPEAKER_08You know, but uh then we we uh won the B-main and uh started 21st and drove up to ninth. Uh you know, got hung up. I tried sneaking one in on Sarah and tried uh okie doking her on the outside there because that's where the preferred lane was, and she caught me right away. Uh gave me the oh 69. You're supposed to be on the inside. I'm like, I know. And then Devin pulls up on the outside, and I look over and he just does his normal, like he's like he's just locked in, and I'm thinking he's going, yeah, fucker. Get where you need to be, you know. Uh but uh I looked at it as what a great night of racing, really, for considering the conditions um with what we started with, what we ended with. Um some people did move up, did have some really good, you know, there was it sounded like there was some good racing. I wasn't a part of any racing in the front, but uh we moved up 12 spots. There was only one wreck in our in our race that took out two cars. So really I was uh a plus ten. But uh we didn't really tear nothing up. We got a couple of dings and uh man, like I said, we went home. Uh I didn't get my money uh last night because the trek printer was a little slow. But first night, you know, when I got up there to the window, the girls had I mean, they had shit going on. I mean they had it was it looked very organized. Um I think once they get into the mode of this is the norm, it's gonna be slicker and shit.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we may attempt to try something a little bit different next week. We might print them alphabetically. We printed them as, you know, the finishing order. Um I don't know. We might we might try a couple different things, but we yeah, we'll iron that process out, make it the best.
SPEAKER_08Well, we all knew it was gonna be a pro. I mean, just something different. It's different, you know. It's just kind of like you guys changing up the concession stands and losing out all that money because we couldn't sell nothing after the B-Bains.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we're uh we're working out, like I said.
SPEAKER_08See, Bill, this is why I like doing this because I can bust them up a little bit. Which is great that we sold out of concession stand stuff. That is totally awesome. But it just shows how disorganized they really are. Right. But organized at the same time.
SPEAKER_07Well, thanks, man.
SPEAKER_05Take that one to commercial.
SPEAKER_06Our guest was Bill Vacher.
SPEAKER_05I I participated, I got two Polishes last night. Okay, and I'm quite confident that the buns were left over from Supernational. So they stayed in the freezer all winter just fine. Well, you know, a frozen bun will survive. Yeah, you cut the freezer burn off it. You can sell them to anybody.
SPEAKER_06I I can't wait for next week since we went through all the food, and next week's gonna be the week. Everything's fresh. Oh, everything's gonna be fresh.
SPEAKER_05We cleaned the freezers out from last year and last night. We're ready to roll. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_08So, I mean, the no no uh Todd Shute should have been real happy uh because never seen the water truck in the pit area one night. All night. Didn't see it once in the water in the in the pit area.
SPEAKER_06Yep, yep. That uh it was not needed. It was needed. Mother Nature was right, right.
SPEAKER_08But you know, all in all, a really good night. No red flags. Uh all night at the Boon Speedway. No, no real major mayhem. No real major mayhem.
SPEAKER_06We had some couple spin-outs, you know, a little bit of action on the front stretch and the hobby stocks.
SPEAKER_08Uh here's a good one. Um the stock car race when Owen Barnhill and Scott Olson got together. What? I mean, I know they were hooked together, but what was it that was hooked together?
SPEAKER_06I got some insight. Hank called me today. He said tire and wheel got in behind the bumper. Oh, because they had to go get an impact and get the wheel off to get them apart. That's what happened.
SPEAKER_07Well, uh, and because I heard they brought Burrhead over the over the top with Hank and they buzzed that thing off. So Johnny on the spot.
SPEAKER_06And Hank even said he said one year, I think it was last year or the year before it was super nationals, he carried an impact the whole time, never needed it once. And then of course you don't have it, and something like that happens. Just a freak deal. And both of them drove away and kept racing.
SPEAKER_08Right. So it wasn't. Which is wild, which is wild how that happened.
SPEAKER_06Just perfect. So um but yeah, no, I mean we saw some some guys that run up front that we haven't seen run up front as much.
SPEAKER_08We we talked about that. My dad and I talked about that. It's like there were guys out there that don't normally make a show. Um, or if they do make a show, they don't make invert. Um and they you know, that's and that is what Boone Speedway was when the whole farm thing started happening. Was you could take an average guy that doesn't have a you know, this isn't a jab to Tom Berry or Tim Ward, but a a Tomberry, Tim Ward, or you know, an Isaac Malico budget and be as competitive and run. Well, when you came to Boone back in the day, you could do that because the racetrack was so forgiving. And that's why people wanted to come to Boone is because it kind of takes a little bit of the technique out of I mean you still gotta have technique because it was cowboy, right? But it made the racetrack so forgiving that guys that weren't so technical on their setups could be competitive and race with the Tom Barry, Jeremy Mills, and um the top tier racers. The top tier racers, right? Every now and then you could have a good run, at least compete. And and that's what keeps people motivated, and those are the people that bring ten or more people with them to the racetrack.
SPEAKER_05Right. And the racetrack by having the equipment at their disposal to prep a racetrack that was not saveable, no other racetrack in the country would have rolled that track in. No matter we'd still be waiting for them to get it prepped. And that's not a knock on them, but they just don't have the people and the equipment to do that. 100% built. I talked with your dad last night when you were out there wheel packing. I was surprised Lottie didn't call the farmers co-op and get the big A with the lime with the spreading the lime like he did in 1993. They had so many tracks with that flood year that couldn't get shows in, like Eldon. It was that racetrack, I had pictures of it. It was like a swimming pool because the Jersey barrier was the border and the river came over the racetrack well and that trapped the water in the well, they they didn't race in Eldon almost all season because of that flood. So guys like Bobby Griner and everybody was driving to Boone to get their their 30 or 40 nights in for their their point chasing for national points. And well, Lottie'd have a whole pit full of cars and the racetrack was muddy. He'd do whatever he had to do to get the races in, and that's why that track ha has the reputation it does. It's like boom, can't rain out because unless it's physically raining at race time, they'll always race. Yeah, and people get pissed about that.
SPEAKER_08Like they like there were a lot of people like, oh Jesus Christ, call it, you know, and it's like everybody's here, yeah, you know, like, and even Brett, when he came up to the tower, he's like, What are we doing, boys? You know, and and Rod is such a diehard and works so much out there to he is a racer just like we are. He wants to see the race and shit too. Now it sucked for him last night, and you could tell that he was like when he came walking into our little cookie milk talk and Cody's like, What do you think, Rod? And he's like, you know, like if you know Rod, you know what I'm talking about, right? Yep. Um, and then like three minutes later, well, I'll see what I can do. And next thing you know, here it comes, and all of his cronies. It's like um they all just follow him, you know. Like, I swear, if if he would pull onto the racetrack and make three laps and then pull down and go through around the pit area and just to make a lap, they'd all follow him.
SPEAKER_09You know, I'm sick.
SPEAKER_08And uh so to see the effort that he did, I think it you know inspired people. Well, it did for me for sure, just because, well, A, I wanted to get out there and do it because I wanted to race, but you know, they're spent they spent a lot of diesel money last night too. Now, granted, you guys are in it to make money, but still, I think it was a it was a great thing by all the racers to get out there and just really help do that and really not really complain about it.
SPEAKER_05No, I mean well, we'd complain about it if we did it every week. Right. I mean, you know, because of the cleanup cost of the cars, like you said, you already spent three hours cleaning your car up, and yeah, Mike's still sitting in the trailer, and we didn't wheel pack, you know. You're right. I saved my stuff.
SPEAKER_08Jay's wheel Jay's wheel packed enough times to I think he's yeah, done his fair share. Now, I do have a good idea for the racetrack. I after last night I was watching, I'm thinking, I'm like, man, I'm looking around at all the racetrack, and I and I see in the pit area all these people scraping all the mud off their cars and just scooping it out into the roadway. Or I was uh Russ Dickerson, he's got this hell of a hole down in his pit area. He's been filming the taking the dirt and filling that hole in. But I think we need to get some containers and put along the pit area, and people can go throw their dirt in there in this designated spot. People will do it if it's there. Yeah. And it's be a great way to keep the dirt for the racetrack. Since it's so hard for us to get dirt at the racetrack and how much we lose on every car. I mean, we lost a lot of dirt last night at the racetrack. Well, there's a lot of dirt migrated out of there. A lot, you know, right? And I well, like I think if you've got a designated spot for some of that shit in the pits, Hank can come around at the end of the night, pick that sucker up, and go dump it on the racetrack.
SPEAKER_06Yep. Save some of it.
SPEAKER_08Save some. I mean, we're not doing anything else. We're just sweeping it out into the roadway anyway.
SPEAKER_06Yep.
SPEAKER_08Something to think about. Just say that's another way to save the racetrack money.
SPEAKER_06We'll put that on the next agenda.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, well, just put it on his tab, too.
SPEAKER_06Oh, well, yeah. Yeah. Right. Oh, wait. I he can fab up a box.
SPEAKER_08What am I talking about? Well, I'm thinking we could just take plastic barrels, the 55-gallon barrels, just cut them in half.
SPEAKER_06Yep.
SPEAKER_08Get something to where we can lift it up with. It'd be easy. You throw all your dirt and mud in there, they'll fit nicely in between the trailers and shit. Telling you. 2029 promoter right here. Come over there. 29? Jeez. Well, I guess this is only three years. Well, I'm just saying, I'll be uh 41. I'll be uh empty nester. Uh I don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_06Empty Nestor. How many kids do you have again? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_08By the way, I meet your sister last night at the window, and sis and Ivan and I, we go up, or well, Ivan was actually at prom. He was out driving grandpa's spider truck around all night. I heard. Yeah. We get to we get to pictures, and he goes, uh, his grandpa, his other grandpa, goes, Yeah, he's washed it twice already because he ran through a mud hole and splattered shit all over the side of it, you know, and I'm like, good boy. He's only had it for two hours. He's already rinsed her twice.
SPEAKER_06He's he's he's doing good. He's doing all right. How many burnouts did he say?
SPEAKER_08Well, I'll tell you right now, if I'm I know my dad knows this. If dad would have got, I mean, that thing's supercharged and it's throaty, I'll guarantee you I'd have been doing burnouts. You know, just saying, because you put a 16-year-old kid into a truck with 700 horse or 600 or whatever it is, you're doing a burnout. You at least gotta especially when you got a piece of trim with you. You're going on a dinner date, you've got your buddy and his piece of trim with you. Like, I mean, you're you're big dicking, right? All right.
SPEAKER_06Ivan's turning red. Yeah, he was red all night. This poor kid. Uh what they can't see behind the camera is John's standing right next to her. We might be just sticking it just a little bit.
SPEAKER_08Just a little bit, yeah. But uh, so uh Emily. Emily, yeah. So we're at the we're at the window. I've lost my train of thought, you know. You said you weren't gonna forget her name. Right. And you did. I did. And so I'm like, oh, we we filled out all of our minor stuff or whatever, you know, and she's like, oh, okay. She grabs the batch of cards and picks out Hallie Ray's card, you know, and I see Ivan's. Well, it's not really Ivan, it says J Van Log. I'm like looking at it, and then she like she's folding through the things and she's like looking, and sis goes, We're his only two kids. I'm like, she's like, oh, and it's like I'm like thinking in my brain, I'm like, well, you think I got more than two kids, man? What did Josh tell you? Yeah, yeah, you know, and so then uh I get home and uh I I will be sending this to Garrett because I want it posted on the show. It's minute 36, Garrett, minute 36. Uh but it is literally, it's either Juan L-O-G-E or it's J Van L O G E. Nothing, no jab on Jerry. Another uh 29 or 29 without J Van. But uh I'm just like, man, they can't even spell my name right here.
SPEAKER_06I think subconsciously this happened because of the Jonathan allusion. It's bar for the crowd. I think she heard that on one of the podcasts, and she's then when she's writing it out, it just happened.
SPEAKER_08Fine, I I can accept that. Okay, it's okay, Emily. Yeah, but she was super nice.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, she did bring, she's like, I met Jonathan. I met Bobcat. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, she was super nice.
SPEAKER_06Yep, yep. No, she she likes working there. Um it's it's kind of weird, like for me. Well, I used when I was in the pit shack all the time, so yesterday was really weird for me because now Jennifer's signing in drivers. And like I had stuff I was running all over the place doing, but I just every once in a while I was like, I'm supposed to be in the pit shack. Like, it just had that feeling. Oh, right. I'm kind of lost, right?
SPEAKER_07What did I forget? Right feeling, you know.
SPEAKER_06Like, ah, I'm supposed to be there, like, but I'm not. And it's no, they did such a good job. Jennifer's dude. Jennifer's a 30-year-old and a 17-year-old body. Like, she just just she has a mind for this stuff and she's good at it. She took it from her mom.
SPEAKER_08I was gonna say, she's had a couple of really good teachers. Very good teachers, yes. She's army though, too. She likes to go fast in her car.
SPEAKER_06A little bit, yeah.
SPEAKER_08I mean, that's kind of par for the course too for that family.
SPEAKER_06A little bit. I I heard that Rod back in the day was missing a little bit of uh uh driver's license.
SPEAKER_08They didn't have SR22 back then, did they? They just yanked her. Just took her away. Right?
SPEAKER_06They should have called it RR22 or Rod Robbins. Right. But yeah, Jennifer uh I asked her if she was gonna had any tickets she had to pay off with her with her envelope every week. She goes, no, I got those paid off. But yep, they had fun. But yeah, we had some uh some new winners last night.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, and some old winners. Yeah. Um, just starting from the top. I mean, we can kind of go through results real quick on some stuff, but Josh May picking up the mod light, the CarQuest mod lights. Hold on.
SPEAKER_08And the mod lights were bringing it up. Oh, yeah. The finger dance was a hot topic.
SPEAKER_07Oh, yeah. People were going nuts. Yeah. I mean, the whole thing. Even the tech guys in the I was down guys. I was down in the infield, and Big Kevin and and Matt, you know, they that's where they come from is the mod light side, and they're like, oh look, everybody's doing it. Everybody's doing it, they're doing finger waves. So it was it was pretty cool.
SPEAKER_08Like anyway, I just had to elaborate. I do that, right? So move on. It was awesome. Go ahead. It was awesome. Yeah it was. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Um, I thought we were gonna have a little watermelons and wood chips. Carm, Carmel? Carmel, Carma, Carmel? Karma with Austin Gray. He ran second. I thought maybe he was gonna get Josh, but it was a good race. Josh, Josh is pretty good.
SPEAKER_07That one kind of came down to you had basically, I mean, essentially two of the fastest, if not the two fastest guys in that class. Up front, whoever gets to the front, there. Austin kind of I think he was on the bottom. Yeah, he was on the pole, right? So he actually fell back to like fourth on the next lap. He got back up to second and was right there with him. And um. And uh, but it went, you know, I thought he was gonna get back to him, and and he did, but about every time he'd get back to him, he'd try to rip it, and he'd out, hit the fence, and then he'd go.
SPEAKER_06Just cost himself a little bit of time here and there.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, no, it was Josh did a good job. Um, picked up that win, and uh I mean SportMod race was good.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, uh that that Sacco guy, he's gonna learn to get around Boone one of these times, I think. Um I don't think it matters where he starts.
SPEAKER_08Like he's lucky I moved up.
SPEAKER_06He's well I heard, you know, he was inviting you back down. Oh, I know.
SPEAKER_08Well, I did, but he he's got such a big motor.
SPEAKER_06Is that that's what it is.
SPEAKER_08I mean, just ask him, he'll tell you. Jake's a really cool dude. I love racing with Jake because he races so hard. Now he's taken me out more times than I've taken him out. Who's keeping score? I he is. Oh, yeah. He is, he is. He always gives me shit because I cut his right front down in Vegas. Uh the you know.
SPEAKER_05You had to drive 1,500 miles to give him a flat.
SPEAKER_08Yep. Okay. Yep. I was on the bottom, bud. He wasn't he wasn't there. He says he was there. I mean, he kind of was there. So I'm gonna know if he's listening because I always tell him that he was never there. But uh what a great race that. I mean, they them guys put on a hell of a show. Um Mikey Smith went from 20th to fourth. Right. Yeah. What what happened? Did anybody talk to Rocky? Did he blow the motor up?
SPEAKER_06Or I mean it just If it didn't, I mean something. Well, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, but I just didn't know if it was maybe a radiator, you know. It could be a good idea. Because it just it was just white smoke real quick and then it went away.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_08You know, and so when they pushed him in, I just didn't know, but they were they had a hell of a race going on there. Um and I know Rocky uh really was he was very I hadn't seen him. Um God bless that whole family been a part of the racing world for a long time, and uh their mom is in a battle with the cancer, and um Rocky had been out of the racing world there for a little bit, and he's got a tribute card to his mom for the pink and stuff. And I Rocky and I have been really good friends since 1997 when he used to roll around the old Monty with the white sunglasses on and shit, you know. And I went up to him last night and was just like, hey man, you know, I'm really sorry about your mom, and he got really emotional. So it was really tough. It I was really pumped up to watch he's in that brand new Vanderbilt car, um, Taco John's ride, and uh you know he was running good. Yeah, and they were putting on a show, and then Randy Havlik, look out. He came around there, and then Socco says, Look out, boys. Yeah, I'm coming in and I'm uh you know.
SPEAKER_06And he had to double set that up because they had they had a restart and he took the lead and then had yellow.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, but you know, if you noticed, if you watch that, he the the first restart, he he threw a bomb. The next restart, he waited until the next corner to throw a bomb. So he was a little unpredictable there. But uh Jake then just doing what Jake Socco does. He's done that the last couple years. I really feel like he's really uh really he's always been there, but he's just really, really sharpened up um a lot of the stuff that he was loose on, and it's really made him one of the top, one of the best drivers in the class, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_07Um but yeah, modified banger. Yeah, for sure. Uh you know this guy over here had a new not a new driver, but uh brought him out of retirement. Yeah, brought a guy out of retirement, and uh I mean Jay looked good in that thing. Yeah he uh I he tried to pick it pick old Snyder with that lap car too. He had him set up and then yeah, it was it was kind of on from there.
SPEAKER_08Bill and I were talking about it earlier a little bit, and it's like Jacob Snyder's that that Snyder family is such a good family. Um and to see Jacob pick up a win, you know, kid races clean, um, he's respectable. Um I was telling Bill, I'm like, Man, I knew Jab was leading the race, and I started so far back that I couldn't really see, you know, and they had to caution with three to go, and I could tell just a little stretch that I could see. I I was like, it doesn't I could see Jay's car and I'm like, God, that's gotta be Snyder, you know, but I wasn't for sure. And got up this morning and seen the whole proud dad post from Jacob's dad, Jason.
SPEAKER_07Oh yeah, Beeb was Beebe was wound up today. He talked about it. It's kind of a big deal, you know? Yeah. Well, and actually, so I was over at Bill's trailer talking to Jay for a while, and then uh Beebe came up and was talking to us, and he's like, Yeah, I was not we were not gonna race. Like, I was nope, I think I'm gonna work in the shop and watch it on TV, whatever. And he goes, Next thing I know, I hear the trucks backing up to the trailer and getting hooked up, and he comes in and goes, I'm going to Boone with or without you. If you want to go, I'm leaving at this time. Good dad. Yeah. Good dad. I didn't end up winning it.
SPEAKER_08Jumped in there and Dads are real good at talking you guys talking kids into doing stuff, aren't you, Bill? Oh, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_07Right. Well, Jake was the one that Jacob was the one that was hooking the stuff up. Be was staying home. Oh, really? Yes. Oh. Beep was staying home. So yeah. Right on. So he goes, you guilted me into it. And he's like, no, now we're going to start next to Node Boom. And like, and then you could tell he was just nervous. I'll get out, you know. And but yeah, I mean he got it. They had an awesome race. Uh Jay jumped out there and then they started racing the lap traffic. And Jay, like I said, he started using the lap cars. You could watch it gonna happen a half a lap before. I'm like, oh, he's gonna set him up. But Jacob did a good job, you know, seeing it coming.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, but a good run for Jay Nodaboom being retired, you know, for the last three years and coming up practice. I mean, he knocked the fence down and practiced, ruined the body a little bit there on the right.
SPEAKER_05He got out of the car and I go, Well, you got that out of the way, because that's the first thing Joel always did, put a new body on, and then throw sparks all the way down the concrete. And it's like, really? The T brace is knocked out of the thing, the deck panels all messed up. You spent all that time measuring body bowl holes out to a sixteenth of an inch, and then first lap and hot laps arc the thing in the corner and throw sparks all the way down the front straightaway. It's like, well, we got that out of the way. Jay got out of the car and goes, I didn't, I wasn't that close to the wall. And I go, Well, walk over here. He says, just leave, don't even fix it. It's already done. Just leave it. It's I got that out of the way.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Yeah, it was good talking to Jay and seeing him. And um, you know, he was like, Man, I don't know. We'll see, see if I still got it or not. And he's like, you know, I didn't really want to start on the front row. I'm like, yeah, we juiced up the draw, you know. We had to give you a chance here. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're gonna get into that.
SPEAKER_06I was gonna say, I've already caught a little bit of flack for that.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, because we I totally I'm being I you know, I took I didn't take over the timer, but we're 46 minutes.
SPEAKER_06We're cooking right along.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, but get through your finished lineup here with the with the results, you know. Braden Richards, uh that brand new BHE icon.
SPEAKER_06Jake McBurney uh throwback car, is that what that is? Because I when he pulled out, I was like, Jake. Oh, that's not Jake.
SPEAKER_08That's an 11. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06No, but it just the blue and the yellow, and it just looked a lot like Jake's, but uh it was fast. Fast.
SPEAKER_08He was fast, yeah. Uh Dave Smith and Buck Shaffer. I mean, I was darting around and inside the top 20 at that point. Uh didn't really know what was going on up there, but it sounded like it was a good race. Yeah, it was. Yep. Yep, it was Buck ended up getting him with a couple to go, I think, to get second, Dave. Well, I asked Dave Smith I uh after he stepped on his honker down in there in turn one and two in the heat race. I'm like, bud, he goes, I killed the car. And I'm like, still, Dave Smith, don't do that. You know, like it was just so weird, you know.
SPEAKER_06I mean, it's he put a regular body on the damn thing. It's not a it's not a a a weird old money car.
SPEAKER_08So the question is though, does is is that a Dodge body or is he running a Chevy?
SPEAKER_06It's a good question. I thought it was a Chevy. But he's always been a Dodge man. He kind of I don't know, he's a little different. He's got a lot of access to some vehicles.
SPEAKER_08Oh, yeah. I yeah, no, I just it was very weird to see. I thought it was a different brother or something.
SPEAKER_06Right. Well, maybe, maybe. I'm gonna go look up Dave next week. Maybe we can get him talked into doing a podcast up at their shop and we can find out for ourselves. I'll I'm gonna ask the question.
SPEAKER_08You work on that, bud.
SPEAKER_06I was told good luck. But it still ain't it'd be cool if they'd lot of secret shit over there, ain't there, Bill? Oh, top secret, yeah.
SPEAKER_08There not a lot, not a lot get let in over there.
SPEAKER_06Unless you're a hog farmer or I could talk hog farm with him.
SPEAKER_08Well, I mean I could too. We'll get in there.
SPEAKER_06But we'll get in there. Yours is a different kind of hog. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Uh one race left. Yeah, hobby stocks, Jordan Fisher. I think he won by what nine and a half seconds. It was over, it was about a half a trash. Who's Jordan Fisher? Joran Fisher.
SPEAKER_0652, he's from Garrison. Um Brett mentioned him. No, he's been racing for a while because like we'd saw we've seen him at Marshalltown last couple years, some here and there. Okay. I think he maybe runs independence. I don't want to speak for him, but um, yeah, he was gone. Like they they dropped.
SPEAKER_08But first, uh, doesn't race Boone Weekly.
SPEAKER_06Not every week. No, he's always a supernaturals guy, I think, too.
SPEAKER_07So well, and I thought Matt McDonald was leading the race because that's how that's how far ahead he was. No shit.
SPEAKER_06I had to scoreboard myself because I was like, where is everyone? And I looked up, I'm like, oh hell, Matt's in second.
SPEAKER_07So yeah, Jamie Cody and then uh Braden Gifford goes a plus twenty.
SPEAKER_06Yes, plus twenty in a hobby race on that track. He was moving it.
SPEAKER_07And he about got he about got Jamie Cody at the at the line, too. Yeah, yep. Just about did. There was a big uh melee at the beginning, and had some people stuck in the mud and everything else.
SPEAKER_06Well, you got a lot of you plus 11, plus 12, like there's a lot of movers, plus 10, Wayne Gifford, um, a lot of movers in the hobby um race. And and that's one of those nights where when they got out there, there was still something there. Like they got to go out and race and and really put one down. And it was fun to watch. And you know me, I'm a hobby guy, so I was all about it.
SPEAKER_07So yeah. Well, we got through our results. Let's go, let's go to our break. That's the I think that's the longest. That's the deepest. Yeah, that's the deepest. Yeah, but we've been. We'll we'll go to break, and then when we come back, we'll talk with Bill Bashore. We'll talk we'll talk race cars with you, Bill. So um stay tuned. We'll be right back on Watermelon's Witches.
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SPEAKER_07Welcome back, RaceFans. Watermelons and wood chips presented by Central Iowa Diesel Performance. And we got through all of our results, right? We kind of talked about our our night, and like I said, our unconventional night, but kind of conventional for Boom Speedway type deal. But uh we want to bring in our guest. Um we've been talking about uh Mr. Bashore for a while. Like, man, it'd be cool to get Bill on here. And uh I can't I say this to a lot of people, but I can't believe you actually agreed to to come on here with us.
SPEAKER_08Well, I kind of snookered him because we were in a group of people. Well, Jay and I can't ever remember the guy's name that Joey. Joey Joey. I I know Joey, but I ever remember his name. And uh Jay's wife was standing there, and I just walked up to him. I'm like, hey Bill, what are you doing tomorrow? Oh, I don't know, no why? I'm like, Well, you want to come be on the podcast? I could probably come. And I'm like, oh man, here we go.
SPEAKER_05I used to do the radio station show. Oh, well, I know.
SPEAKER_08That's why, but I'm just like, I you know, your your story and your background on racing is and the inspiration that you've had on racing and how long you've spent uh doing what we all love is just awesome, you know, and I know a lot of those things, but I think that it was it's very cool that you're here and and are gonna share some of those stories with us. And um you've had a lot of ups and downs in the racing, and you've worked with a lot of cool people, and I'm curious because I know you know how many uh transmission snap rings you've put in, and you've had you've got her all inventoried up here, bud. We were we were down at the frame machine earlier this year, and Danny was telling me that he broke your favorite screwdriver, and Joel's like, my grandpa's gr dad used this screwdriver, and Danny gets it and hits it with a hammer and shatters it, and Danny goes, I literally was scared to tell Bill.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah, that wood handle screwdriver, they don't even make them anymore.
SPEAKER_08Well, and Joel goes, when he came to me and told me, he goes, I thought it was just a typical, oh, we'll just go heat it up on the bench and curl it over, you know, because he's like, it's the it's the screwdriver we use to take out reverse snap rings. Snap rings. And he goes, Joel goes, I've taken out hundreds of snap. He goes, and I don't even know how many my dad has with this screwdriver.
SPEAKER_05He goes, but probably 30,000. It's only 30,000. Right, right. And I'm like, and and and he used it twice and broke the handle off of the media.
SPEAKER_08So I got a kick out of that, you know, and I'm I'm curious because you've you've built transmissions uh not just for race cars, but for a lot of things over the years, and and uh I'm super excited to get on here and hear some of that stuff.
SPEAKER_05Well, ask me what you want. That's your this is your chance. Where did it all begin? Um my dad was working in Ames with Arnie Brayland on a construction job. Brayland was a painter and my dad was Union Carpenter at the time. And Arnie told my dad, you know, some night you want to come over to the racetrack, come down to the pit area after the races, and he was driving for Sam and Donna Post, Donna F camp, and that's how I got connected in racing in 1968, run around the Baboon Speedway every Saturday night with a purple windbreaker with a 66 on the back of it. And my uncle was good friends with Greg Davis, and Arlo Dornbush cut my hair, and I mean, you know, I mean the local home-built late model cars back then, it was it was guys building cars in their garage and big block motors and big tires on the three corners of the car and a little skinny one on the left front and center a lot of center steer cars. The drivers were generally bigger boys. They had to make you know, no power steering, big block motor, big tires. You had to get up on the wheel, you had to drive that thing.
SPEAKER_06That's what it meant to get up on the wheel.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah, you had to get after it, yeah. You know, and we always talked about as good as Arn uh Arnie and Greg Davis were, they were more muscular guys, and Arla Dornbush was you know probably Cody size or smaller, and you could almost tell ten, twelve laps into the race, he'd start falling out of the seat somewhat. Just I'm sure it was physically demanding a racetrack like last night that had a big cushion on it. You you had to manhandle that thing. Yep. You know, and and the bigger the bigger guys had it had an advantage. Guys like George Barton and that, you know, they were Bill Davis, they were all big, bigger guys.
SPEAKER_06So that's where Dave Farron got he had those long arms, he could really put the muscle to it. Oh yeah. See, there was a day that we we had we had an advantage, Jonathan. Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Seriously.
SPEAKER_06That's why it went away. Right. All these guys had to have power steering. Right.
SPEAKER_05Power steering and everything now is sanitized so much compared to what it was.
SPEAKER_08Well, and we talked about that a little bit too, Bill, is like a lot of people back in the day that were racers weren't young kids. They were mechanics or somebody that had access to a junkyard. Right. Or not access to it, but worked at a junkyard or whatever, you know, and had a service station or whatever.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, full you know, like Brayland had a full service gas station, and I I worked there when I was in high school, and they had a tire machine and two racks, did brake work and tune-up work, and you ended up buying an exhaust bender. And one of the first times I met your dad, he was building his one of his first cars, and he had a uh cage kit, because you could buy a four-point kit with kicker bars and stuff, and they were putting it on the frame and they needed a little massaging, and they brought the tubing down, and we just gave it a little tweak on the exhaust bender to get it to fit a little bit.
SPEAKER_08That thing was like funny story is is last night I was down talking to Shane and Denny, and and Denny goes, I don't know if you know this or not, but the first car that I stock car I ever raced, your dad built. Because I don't know where he built it, but he goes, I won National Rookie of the Year that year. You know, and I'm just like, God, we gotta get Denny on here now, too.
SPEAKER_05You know, like Denny, I mean, and Denny drove for you for uh two thousand one to two thousand six when he flipped my dirtworks car off turn three and broke his collar or broke his scapula.
SPEAKER_08Well, and we've we've seen Denny Stoneburger and one my dad as well get into that bad deal in turn one. You remember that?
SPEAKER_05Well, they hit radiator cap to radiator cap head on.
SPEAKER_08So that was one of the hardest hits I'd ever seen. Yeah, it was Cale Sponsor went underneath a Denny. My dad's got dad's got the picture of it. Oh, yeah, that was uh And that's what kind of sidelined my dad there for a while. It screwed his neck up, and then that's when Mark was a hard that was a hard hit.
SPEAKER_05They were they were wide open when they got tangled up and turned around, and Danny walked across the racetrack with his helmet and just set it on the fender of the trailer, and he goes, Your shit's junk. And I go is what it is. Right. I'm not happy about it, but you walked over here, and that's about all that matters at that point, you know. We've talked about that a hundred times, and that and that's you know, only you gotta have Kurt Condon's cell phone number on on speed dial so he can I've had to have three cars brought to my shop on the Condon's rollback truck. So fortunately, one of them wasn't mine, it was Burke's. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_07Vividly remember that.
SPEAKER_08So so you uh you you start going to the races and stuff with your dad?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we 1968, like I said, we started going to races, and you know, the Braylon family was with the Mitchells and Floyd Mitchell was flagman at the time, and and you know, the the local racing community everybody knew everybody in town, you know, so that's how I kind of got started in the racing, and then Braylon went on to race for Everett Southern. And when I got my driver's license, one of the first places I went was down to Polk City where Braylon's car was at at Daryl Wobble's house, Walker, Daryl Walker, drove down there, thought I was helping on the car, and they just had me clean drain pans and scrape mud off of body panels and stuff like that, but it's all stuff that has to be done. Right. You know, and you You can't learn anything unless you get involved. You know, d you can stand on the sidelines and watch and you can only learn so much, you gotta participate, and I always was a kind of a hands-on guy as long as I didn't do something that I didn't screw something up, I you know.
SPEAKER_08I wanted to participate and so when when at that one of the point, when did the transmission shop come in? When did when did you decide or like I I'm gonna build these power glides for these race cars? And I mean, first of all, w let's start with this is how many transmissions have you built since you started? And um I mean, I know it's slowed down. I mean, you've when did you start that business? How many have you built?
SPEAKER_05Oh, my brother used to keep track since he was my primary builder for 30 years, he used to keep track and he quit counting at 22,000 and then just a couple, yeah, just a couple.
SPEAKER_08That screwdriver took a lot of reversal, I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and but I I got involved a little bit with drag racing in the late 70s and throughout the eighties, and the power glide transmissions were real popular in bracket cars and drag race, and they're and they're still one of the most popular transmissions in motorsports today, you know, because of the different types of cars that they can fit in. But I learned from some other people that showed me a few tricks of the trade, and and we were building bracket race power glides in the early eighties and throughout the eighties, and guys like Boyd Brown and stuff were I always helped Boyd if if he needed something.
SPEAKER_08I did some engine repair work and stuff, you know, because I primarily a big block guy, but were you part of the pulling the motor out of Blanche's car on Fridays and putting it into race on Saturdays and then putting it back in on Sundays so she could go to work on Monday? Boyd Brown was that savage boys. Boyd Brown, that's Boyd Brown got my dad, and Donna Post and stuff kind of got my dad started into all this stuff too, you know. And and it's just when you hear that story, like dad goes, Yeah, I go over to Boyd's. I mean, they'd have the uh a pickup truck hooked up to the to the race car and a tree, and you know, and and then on Sundays they'd pull the motor out and put it back in Blanche's car so she'd go to work. Somebody had to work. Right.
SPEAKER_05But those were the times like you you lived in those times. Right. I raced a big block bracket car. It was a actually a 36 Chevy pickup with a 427 and a power glide and a quick change rear end. Well, I towed with uh old 454 big block, and there was more than one time we cannibalized push rods and rocker arms and stuff so we could race, and then after the races were over, we had to put the truck back together so we could drive home. Scott Davis has got a lot of those stories too.
SPEAKER_08Like, I mean, some wild shit. Like they had to take the fan off the race car and put it on the truck because something, you know, come apart, and I'm just like, Really?
SPEAKER_05You know, like So when we're when we're building these power glides for bracket cars, you know, I'd seen the late model guys, the winners used to build a uh power glide transmission with external plumbing on it for the late model cars, and I seen a few of them. It's like, well, there's really not too much difference in the base rotating assembly from what we're doing for the drag race applications. It's like, I think we can do this. And I put a tranny in Boyd Brown's car and Scott Rogers' stock car back in the day. Fireballs. Oh, yeah, old fireball stock. And it's like these things are. Work pretty dang slick in these dirt track cars because uh back then everybody was running a three-speed in second gear with a junkyard ring and pinion in the back and trying to mix and match to achieve your final gear ratio. Yeah, it's like, well, if we can get this power glide to hold up, getting rid of all that rotating weight, put final gear in the rear end, and kind of evolve that. Because it's an aluminum case, right? Right.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, so you're you're going from cast to aluminum, and that's a lot lighter.
SPEAKER_05Right. And you get rid of the no torque converter. So you're getting rid of the torque converter weight, and there's no clutch, you just got a flex plate on the back of it with a coupler. And so we're dabbling around and building a few of them, and I had some drag race customers, and my primary business was just general automotive and truck repair. I did power company trucks, asplin tree trim, and that's why my ceiling heights 14.4 in the shop is because I could get them bucket trucks in. Oh, okay. That makes sense.
SPEAKER_08If you've never been down to the shop at Bilbachore's, it's it's it is a goofy setup, but it's very uh organized, like how it works. But I did not know that that's why it was.
SPEAKER_05We put that 28 by 48 edition on it because I got tired of working on power company trucks out under the clear blue under that soft maple tree. Didn't work that good in the wintertime. Right. So me and my brother talked about it. We were building enough trannies, he goes, the only way we're gonna do this is just throw caution in the wind and just pursue this as a full-time deal. And I went out and I recruited Bill Davis Sr. and Bill Davis Jr. and a couple of the other guys, Axel Andreessen, it was involved in the car and told him what I my proposal and what I was gonna do for them. And we went for one of the hottest drivers of the time. My brothers, we sat at the Boone Speedway and watched him race in 1989, and he was national champion. He goes, We ain't screwing around. We're just gonna go after the best guy out there. If you want to start at the bottom and work your way up, it's gonna take too long. We just gotta go out and we've got to get somebody that can promote the product. So that's and I had a little inside track because Bill Pantier that still partners with me on the race car, he worked with Bill Davis in the truck. You know, they they city delivery there in Des Moines driving trucks. So Bill Pantier knew Bill Davis and said, hey, this buddy of mine. Bill, Bill, Bill. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, like Larry Darrell and Darryl. So they had a meeting and it was three to one. Axel really didn't want to switch anything, but Billy and Mike and and Sr. voted to put a power glide in the car at least for a temporary, you know, a trial and error deal. And we went to we would put the tranny in the car and the X-brace wouldn't clear. So Bob Harris had to notch the X-brace on the car for the corner of the pan rail to fit the car. That blew some minds, didn't it? Yeah, and he went out, went out in 1990, and I don't remember the exact total, but he got like 35 feature wins out of six, you know, 55 or 60 starts.
SPEAKER_08Which is insane.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah, it was a pretty high percentage of, you know, and of course, you know, back in that time frame, we didn't have cell phones and the internet and everything. So your your one-on-one relationship with people in the pit area, if you were going to sell stuff, you know, you had to do it in person, and you relied a lot on swap meets and trade shows and stuff like that. And and uh motorsports is like anything else, it's a monkey see, monkey do business. And if you know the guy that's winning races has got these this equipment, I need to get me some of that, you know. Yep. So that's kind of how the whole thing got kicked off. I've been real fortunate that my customer base made me look probably better than I actually was.
SPEAKER_08So Yeah, but you know, that's the thing. You like you said, you you you took a shot and just kind of started this on a fluke deal.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_08Um just being around racing, and and when you can take a product and put it into a race car that goes out and wins 35 races, that probably sold you 50 transmissions boom, right like the next year. Like people are like, we've got to have a Bashore power glide.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Like they're the shit. Right.
SPEAKER_05Well, yeah, they were at the time. I mean, you know, I mean, I racing's an evolution. I mean, you know, but I mean, I'm not tootin' my own horn, but I could take I could take the car that we raced last night, I could put a power glide in that thing, and go out there on transponder and turn exact same lap times. The tranny's a little heavier, a little, you know, than the Falcon. But we have to be real careful in this business because the limiting factor is that tire we're on. So you increase or decrease rotating mass, and I learned a lot. That V6 experiment was kind of a we've talked about that on the cast. That was a deal. It was quite a learning curve. I'm not I'm not saying that it it ain't for everybody. I I spent a lot of capital to to play that game, but I probably wouldn't necessarily do it. I I would do it different, but I wouldn't not do it. Right. If I had the resources to do it, I'd I got some ideas. It it' it it could work. But it was it was quite a deal to do that because you had such a light rotating assembly, the rate of gain on the dyno, we actually had to turn the brake up because even though that thing only made 420 horse, the rate of gain, the rate of gain, the data acquisition wouldn't read it on the initial hit of the throttle. We had to turn the brake up because the bottom end it wouldn't read it. Really? Yeah, I mean it was just the and Joel I'll tell you it was that hard to drive, too. We actually took cast iron flywheel, like you'd run on a hobby stock, a 19-pound flywheel, and would stick on that thing for slick tracks because we had to run 100 points deeper gear with that little motor than you would with a V8 motor. So your compression braking on the D c cell, you couldn't get that thing tight enough because if you went in there and lifted with a 13 to 1 compression motor with no rotating, it would just stop the rear tires. So it was it was harder to drive the car at times on slick because the deceleration would shear the tire, and then you go to pick the throttle up and you're 100-point deeper gear. So it when it when it broke the tires loose, it would accelerate so fast you couldn't lift out of it quick enough to keep from spinning the tires, you know. So it it but we learned a lot of stuff about the balance of the car by taking a hundred pounds out of the engine compartment, just how the balance of the car, we had to move all the weight to the center of the car. It drove nice, but it was it your tuning window was real narrow with it.
SPEAKER_08So And this kids is Bill Dye, the race car guy that was turned 13 on the V sticked motor. That was very interesting. I mean, I don't think a lot of people understand what kind of stuff went into that. A lot of people thought you were crazy.
SPEAKER_05Oh, well, they weren't far off, but you know what I'm saying, though. Like I We had to build the cylinder heads for that. Literally cut a 215 Dart Iron Eagle cylinder head in half, took one cylinder out of it and took it over to Cambridge, and they welded the cylinder heads back together to make because there's no performance cylinder head that's not an aluminum for that V6. The old junkyard 229-231 cubic inch heads would be equivalent to running uh an old 882 Shivie head. Right. It would, it's a say, you know. That's wild too. I didn't know you had to do that. Oh, yeah. We still got the Norm Chenlin still has the cylinder heads. He's like a mad scientist. I mean, legitimately the guy's the deal on I mean, you couldn't tell them, you couldn't tell them heads were mated back together when they got done welding them and he machined it all off. Like I said, it was it was interesting. And obviously, I still own a race car. I was at the racetrack last night packing mud with everybody else. But we have lost so much of what it used to be, where we were building motors and the claim era where we were selling motors on a regular basis. And I'm glad I got a chance to race when I did. I mean, I'd like to be around in a hundred years to see where it's at, but I I'm glad I raced when I did. The going to the junkyard on Saturday morning, you you set your alarm clock because you had to get to Donnie Lindell's before everybody else got the good stuff out of there, you know. Right.
SPEAKER_08Right. Or before they just wrecked them around the yard. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_09Right.
SPEAKER_08So but gosh dang. I mean, that is, you know, we the racetrack talked about the V6 thing um and just how different it sounded. And, you know, I got to see what it looked like in the car. I mean, it just didn't look right. Yeah. Like it just was so weird.
SPEAKER_05And you guys won a couple of races with that thing. Yeah, we won we won two features at Boone with it, and we actually should have won about the third or fourth night we had the thing in the car. Fourth of July, they had the race at Boone for the night of destruction. They only had two classes. I think they had Hobbystock and the mods that year, and that was only the third or fourth night we had that thing in the car, and it rained, and the track was heavy, and they announced it wasn't gonna weigh, and we just started throwing lead off that thing. It's like lighting this baby up because that racetrack was hammered down, and right it's like this this poor little V6 ain't gonna have a chance on a hammered down racetrack, and he started up front and led the thing until it threw rod bearings out of it. That was that that first motor we put together, and it was a actually out of a one of them little shivvy vans. That V6 was 4-3, and the bearing journal size on them stock cranks was a bigger journal, and it I I'm not no expert on on the motor stuff, but the bearing speed was a larger journal.
SPEAKER_08I'm not no expert on motor stuff, but we're cutting heads apart and welding them back together, machining them down and putting them on a V6 motor, and I know every micrometer dimension in this motor, but I'm not that okay, Bill.
SPEAKER_05I rely on a lot of other people, but the bearing speed of the of the of the larger journal, the we knew that that was kind of a weak link on the thing, and turning that much RPM on it. Oh, we hard on them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's probably some connecting rod parts that cleared the grandstands when it finally broke, but which is crazy, I think.
SPEAKER_06So I'm I heard a rumor that Wayne Larson ran a V6 back in the day. Oh yeah. And and he was getting claimed so much that he was looking for a cheaper alternative or whatever. Is that part of what weighed into this? Like did you get the idea from that, or where did this come from?
SPEAKER_05Well, with uh say it. The evolution of the crate motor. I'm not a crate motor guy. I mean, sure. Because I grew up hands-on, and if you know contrary to everybody's misinformation, I don't have deep pockets. I just I put a lot of sweat equity in my racing program, and I I have to be able to work on the stuff myself, and being that I don't have to pay somebody to do that work, I wanted the opportunity to to maintain my own race car bumper to bumper. And so I was probably the last dinosaur that was still out there beating my head against the wall against the crate package, and it is what it is, and now that is going the other direction now with the spec motor option, and you just have to read the rule book and do what's best for your own racing program, and and uh but the going back to Wayne's deal, that that V6, he was successful with it. He had he had a um old ARCA car, and them them cars had V6s in them back in the day, because they had a GM V6, uh Shivvy V6 with uh bow tie block, and then Buick had a V6 engine, and they run them in the Bush Grand National cars. And they made pretty good power, they made pretty good power for uh the weight of the cars that we were racing because there was no weight rule. Sure. You know, before they did the 2450 rule, I had a dirtworks car with a bunch of lightweight parts, and that car, that car was probably 2180 ready to go on the racetrack.
SPEAKER_06So yeah, so a lot of sweat equity and a lot of brain cells knowing go into something.
SPEAKER_05A lot of trial and error. Sure. Yeah, you probably don't want to ever see my scrap pile in. If I saved it all in one big pile, it would be a lot. Sure, sure.
SPEAKER_08It'd fill that back room of the shop, wouldn't it, Bill? Well, yeah, multiple times. Yeah, we haven't got to that. Uh my dad used to keep he kept all the shit that I wrecked over the years. And he hung all of it up out in our timber on trees. And like, we haven't made it out there yet on the podcast, but we're gonna go out there because we've got a a race car cemetery. Yeah. And I just drive around there and I'm just thinking, man, I wrecked a lot of shit. Little literally wrecked a ton of stuff. And it it's just it's all still up out there. And then when dad went got back into racing there in 2016, he's got like, I mean, I'm talking like trees down there, like big with like 10, 12 bumpers on them, rear ends, stubs, tails, ra I mean, anything you can name it, they're out there. Well, when my dad, when he started racing, I mean, he only didn't race very often, he had a limited schedule, his trees were like this big with a with a door or like a wheel cover or you know, so it's been an ongoing joke, but I I can just about imagine with being fifty plus years, how many years have you been racing? So it's nice, what is that?
SPEAKER_05Well, I started bracket racing drag cars myself when I was right out of high school, and yeah, it's I've wrecked some shit. Right. I mean you know how many motors are blown up and what's the worst wreck you've been a part of?
SPEAKER_06Like either as a car owner or yourself.
SPEAKER_05Um first week of May 1998, I was racing Burge's second hobby stock car. Yeah. And Lottie had just redone the back straightaway, put that wall in, and they didn't have that jersey barrier finished up yet. And I was racing Burge's hobby stock and got hooked on the right rear. And I'm I'm the one that knocked the corner off of that opening. Really? Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_06Oh man.
SPEAKER_05Knocked me out 18 stitches in my chin. Thought I knocked all my teeth out, but damn. The best part about it was I had to go to the chiropractor because it hit so hard it dislocated my jaw both sides, had to pop my jaw back in.
SPEAKER_06Holy cow.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it was a deal. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08That's where the knee damage started with.
SPEAKER_05Actually, I messed my ankle up on that one.
SPEAKER_08And you've uh you were the 87. Was that your number? What was your what was your car number?
SPEAKER_05Oh, 57 was Burge. Yeah, because Danny, but when Danny raced. When I raced, I was I was the other 57 car because we had two cars and they were painted up the same. I put a B on it, you know, for Bush or Burge. Or Burge.
SPEAKER_08Right, right, right. I just didn't know it when Joels took over and started driving for you. Uh he came up with the 87.
SPEAKER_05Right, because Nodaboom had been driving for me then prior in 2006, Jay drove for me and had the sevens on the car, and that that car is uh the 06 Harris car. Your dad drove that car for me in 07 because I had I bought the old that car right there. Black one? Yeah, no, the 60, yeah, the black one. The black one there. 2007 right there. That was a car that Stoneburner flipped my car in like May of 06. And your dad came down and said, Hey, I need I want you guys to take a look at new cars we're building. And you know, he had been working with Al, Haina, and Jeremy and Jimmy and his own car, and they played around with that 50-hole bracket system that they went to back then, and they started turning the stub on the car and that and that they changed the jig up. Made the round tube car. That was the year they did the round tube. They went away from the square tube main rails. He says, I got a car on the jig, you can be the next car up. And I So you was a good salesman. Well, yeah. So I I walked walked out of the racetrack that night with no race car and a prospects of maybe going out and looking and see what we were gonna do. And I told him, I said, the only way I'd do it, I said, I want the teardrop fuel cell put in it, because that's what I'd always run in the dirtworks cars. I said, I just like the concept of that teardrop fuel cell. It's protected a little better because it's higher up in the car. He said, Yeah, we can change the mounts, we'll we'll do that. So I we built that car and Danny raced it a couple times, but his shoulder was so bad, he said, I'm done. He said, I'm gonna call it. So I had Pat Graham race that thing for me a couple nights and he actually won his only feature race at Marshalltown Speedway in my car. No shit. Yep. First night he drove it over there. I did not know that. He raced it, he raced it one night at Boone. I think he ran fourth. And then we went to Marshalltown and he won, and then we came back to Boone the next week and he ran second. And so I didn't have nobody drive the car, and I'm standing on the catwalk, and I'm looking back to the east, and I see your dad stand down there, and he's looking back to the west. And I go, put my hands up in there, I go, where's your car? He said, I don't have a motor. Really? I got a brand new car with no driver. That you sold me. That you sold me. I said, I don't have a driver, and you don't have a motor. I said, I could go get the car if you got your safety equipment. And he said, tell you what, you just bring it next week. And I'll drive it. And he drove the car and he got out of the car and he goes, I got an idea for you. Let me make a phone call and I'll get you a driver for the rest of the year. And that's how I got hooked up with Jay.
SPEAKER_08So I remember when dad drove for you there. I mean, you guys get went to Boone, won back-to-back weeks, went to Marshtown. I mean, that thing almost won Supernationals. Yeah. That thing was I mean, and that was an 08 car that we ran second. Yeah. And and I mean, I'm telling you, like, that was it was crazy uh how good that race car was for whatever reason. And my dad always getting claimed all the time. Oh yeah. He always ran you know we talked about it in his in his podcast. He had claimer motors, and then he had his, you know, like uh he had the 406 that he ran at Britt, and then he had a Supernationals motor, you know, and I remember him specifically saying, he's like, man, the power plant in this that that Bill has in this car is like my Supernationals motor, and we're running it weekly, and it's like the shit. I mean, I remember those, remember that I mean it was so awesome, and then that's kind of Joel got in to the sport mod shortly after, and we kind of were traveling around together and doing that stuff, and God, I mean, that's just a lot of lot of memory there. Oh, yeah. A lot of memory there for me.
SPEAKER_05Yep. We got 2007. Uh, we kept that car at the end of the year because I had your dad's ghost car, the back-to-back supernational car that was in his shop, and I bought that from him for Joel for a sport mod in 07, and then I kept the 07 car that I we built in 06, and that's what he raced in 2008 and 9. And that car that your dad put together in 08, he called me. Oh, we'd we'd raced that car maybe two months, and he called me and goes, I got the car sold. I go, really? Oh, you're gonna put together another one, or what are we gonna do? Oh no, he says, I took a deposit on it. The guy's gonna pick it up at Supernational's from Texas. I go, great. You you handle the money side of it, we'll just keep racing it, and if you wad it up, you'll just have to fix it. But so we went into Supernational's on Thursday night. He put the car in the show, and we came back Friday and had to run Mark Elliott back two cars head to head for the pull. Right. Broke the motor. So we're over in the tech tent with Brett and Gotowski and everybody pulled a head off. It's like, yeah, yeah, it's it's hurt. So we take the motor over to JR's and they confiscated the motor because it was hurt. They let me put a spare motor in it belonged to Tiny, Craig Jones. Yeah. The paint wasn't even dry on that thing. We put that motor in the car. Your dad ran second to STOA that year by a car length. The car was sold. IMCA took our motor. I came home with a carburetor, headers, my transmission in the back of the truck, the parts that didn't go with the engine claim or the car, you could have put them in a rubber-made tote with all I had left in 2008. It's like, uh, this wasn't really good Supernationals for us.
SPEAKER_08Even though it was even really right. I mean, what did Connie say all these years? I cannot repeat it on this podcast. Strong woman there. Strong, strong woman there to keep Bill Tame down there uh in the big Mongona. Um, you know, uh shortly after that, uh, you guys went into building some chassis, too. You I mean, we haven't just done transmission stuff. We've you do all kinds of fabricating stuff, uh, still to this day, still got fabric. I myself go down and work with Joel uh on on the frame machine stuff, and uh you know it's it's very convenient for us to be able to go down there and use that. And you guys started doing the dirt boss stuff, uh kind of phased that out here well, five years ago.
SPEAKER_05We hadn't built any cars since the car that I'm racing now, is one of the last cars that was built on that jig. We built cars with Charlie Brown and and Jay Stefan out there at the North Platte area. And uh I don't have to tell you the chassis business is uh it's a tough deal. I mean, uh I mean it's it's so it's so labor-intensive, and they've cleaned up some of that with the the CNC tubing notchers and benders and stuff where the cars kind of come in a kit and you weld it together compared to measuring, cutting notching and and doing it all the old school way.
SPEAKER_08We still do it the old school way.
SPEAKER_05Well, yeah, and I mean the car that we're racing right now, Joel built that car. Me and Joey DeBore and and uh Joel went out to North Platte and worked at a Charlie Brown shop with uh Jay Stefan helping us, and we built the car on New Year's weekend in 2018, and he we built that for that V6 motor combination, and Joel and Josh Gilman met head on at the flag stand in the front straightaway at Boone in August of 2020, and that car sat on a 10-foot wooden pallet killing the grass behind the shop for three years. And when I wrecked that car, I called Jay and said, Hey, can we borrow a car for the you know couple weeks till I can figure out what I'm gonna do with this wrecked one? He just brought down the car and just dropped it off and drove uh drove off and he said, Yeah, just race it. And you know, I I cannibalized all my drivetrain out and gave him his stuff back, but he donated uh donated a roller to us when I needed one, and and uh then we fixed that car in 2023. We put it back on the jig and and put a front half on it.
SPEAKER_08But you just had a lot of hands and worked with a lot of cool people and and uh done a lot of favors for people like that. It was probably nice to be on the receiving end of that for once.
SPEAKER_05Well, yeah, I mean I've I've more than my fair share helped other people out. And it's nice to reciprocate and everything, but it's part of the part of the sport, you know. The number of people that you meet along the way is uh bigger part of racing than what today it seems like, you know, people show up with a race car and they they didn't build it, you know. They just they bought it, put tear offs on, get in the car and drive it. And you went you talked about it earlier about the percentage of people that either did general automotive repair, owned a full service gas station, worked at a junkyard, had a towing service. It was people that were in the automotive industry for their regular business. Right. So that percentage of people now is the minority. It used to be the majority by a large percentage.
SPEAKER_08Right. Well, and that's I I've I've talked about it too. I'm in the same boat you are. I've only raced two cars that my team and I have not built. Right. Ourselves. And I mean I'm talking from you know, straight tubes, frame out of the junkyard, yeah, cut it down, weld it up, build our own stuff, you know, and and that's just kind of unheard of nowadays in the racing world, you know, and and you see a lot of these chassis companies taking, you know, when the sport mod deal started, you had to have an old car.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_08Now a lot of guys are kind of going back to that where they're taking mod they're not necessarily building sport mods, they're building a modified, and then in a couple years they're converting them to a sport mod.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Um but it it is, it's just unheard of. There's just and there's so many other smaller chassis companies like back in the day when you started, there was Dirtworks, Harris, uh Jet. Um Kelly was building. Kelly Shirock. Um have for I always forget about how long Kelly's been building cars, but there were really only like four or five real major chassis companies that were building specific modified or stock cars. I mean, stock cars you had Shannon.
SPEAKER_05Right, Steve Shannon built a ton of cars, and Mark was building cars up in Webster City. Out of a out of a garage instead. Yeah. Dave Adams up in or uh God dang it. Well, Dave Farron. Yeah. Dave Farron and Adams up north, up around Mason City area, was building a lot of Wesoda and IMCA stock car.
SPEAKER_08Just kind of crazy how that's all changed over and and uh it's probably been a pretty cool ride and and very uh roller coaster-y for you just from seeing, you know, not being at the racetrack from 1968 to night or I almost said 1925. 2026. Um I mean that's you know, holy shit. That's uh that's a long time to be at the racetrack. Uh still cool. I I just have this feeling that you're gonna keep doing it as long as you can. Um just because that's just who you are and and and how you promote your business. And um it's been very, very cool to have you on here, Bill.
SPEAKER_05Well, I appreciate you guys having me on. I You know me, I like to talk. Right, right.
SPEAKER_08I knew it was gonna be a great show just because well, just how much knowledge you got.
SPEAKER_07Well, and I don't know, like I had to step out. Did you guys did you guys I wanted to talk about I don't know if you talked about it, but like your relationship with like with Doug Dragoo. Um that was something that that uh actually Denny Stoneburner messaged me about like early on when we started doing this. He's like, You gotta ask but if you ever get Bill on there, you gotta talk to him about uh working with Doug Dragoo and kind of that the funny car stuff. And I remember there's a my grandma, she keeps everything, right? Like has all these scrapbooks and whatever, and there was like an article in the I think it was in like the Boone News Republican when they had the Ray Bestus Funny car there. I think it was the Ray Bestus car, right? Yeah, Doug Dragoo was working on the the Ray Bestus Funny car traveling the circuit, and it was sitting in Montagona and they're working on it down there.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, R. C. Sherman drove that car, and actually Nick Bonifont out in Philadelphia was a car owner, and that goes back to my late 70s bracket race, and I met Doug, he had a car to Sarah in Ogden, and we got hooked up, and both of us were pretty passionate about our big block Chevy drag cars, and and uh we had we it developed into you know pretty serious friendship for um he went through a couple divorces and ended up with a professional drag race circuit and was all over the country and them guys always stopped back at my shop between Seattle and Brainerd because they had two weeks off, happened to be Knoxville Nationals. Oh, okay. So them guys would burn back to Iowa, hang out the shop, and of course they could pull a semi in there and unload the car and basically leave all their stuff setting out down the valley, and nobody'd bother anything. And they would they went dirt track racing, and a lot of them guys had connections to the sprint car uh circuit through guys like Rusty Wallace and Raymond Beadle and stuff that were in Texas at the time, and them guys had background in in the not only the drag race mark uh circuit, but the the NASCAR circuit too. But um yeah, Doug went on to work with Mark Oswald, who was the crew chief for Antron Brown, and I gotta know them people real well, and and uh he worked for Perdome when Ron Cap's they first put that Copenhague funny car together, and all them cars, Scott Coletta's cars have been at my shop before, and you know they they stop in, hang out. They like cooking out, drinking beer, and dirt track racing, you know. That's one thing Doug told me after he got done with uh drag race circuit. He he ended up his last job before he got cancer and passed away 18 years ago. He worked at DEI and uh he told me then, he goes, you know, he said, you just stay in Iowa, because I talked about possibly going out there and going to work. He said, stay in Iowa, do what you're doing, as long as you're making a living, go dirt track racing, because he said real racers race on Friday and Saturday night. He says, what I'm doing out here, he said, this is this is just uh uh you know a model car company, you know, the die-cast car company that races on weekends. He said it's really not racing. You know, and it to for him to go from bracket racing in central Iowa, and his his last job was he was putting the qualifying motors together for Michael Waltrup, and he already had three world championships with Scott Colletta before Scott got killed, and he has uh Daytona 500 ring for the year that Michael won Daytona when when Senior got killed down there. I was at the racetrack in 2001 and left the racetrack knowing that they were working on him in the infield, and of course, you know, he was like Superman, invincible, and I was over at a restaurant on A1A, and they announced over the radio that he passed away. I had to pull over and park it. It's like this couldn't possibly have happened. You know, it was like an out-of-body experience almost, you know. Right. Yep. So and it was for the whole racing community.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_05Love him or hate him, you went to the racetrack to either see him win or see him get beat, but you went there because he was there. Right.
SPEAKER_06You know, so I that's one of those moments, you know, the where where were you, you know, 9-11 stuff like that. Oh yeah. The Earnhardt one, I mean, I remember that like it was yesterday, the whole day. I remember every detail.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah, I do too. I remember going across the street from the track over to the Volusha Mall to get my car, and I told Connie I said Bill parked over there because it was six dollars cheaper. It was it was I didn't care how far they had to live. I I say I saved five bucks. I knew it. I said, we're not going to Orlando, we're going back to the coast because everybody's trying to get on the interstate. We're going the other way because I got to get some food. So we got over there and we're trying to get pulled into a moat uh into the restaurant parking lot, and they announced that over the over the radio. I mean, it was it was a big deal.
SPEAKER_08It shocked the world. It changed racing, right? It did. That day changed racing. Well, whether it's at our level or the highest level, it was everything.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Connie said at the at the when we got back to the motel and she said, I'm done. I'm not ever watching another race again. I don't care if you race anymore. That this is a deal breaker. Well, the next Sunday, we were all sitting in front of the TV. You know what I mean? So but it it was, you know, like you said, there's certain events that you remember exactly where you were, and that was one of them.
SPEAKER_06Yep.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. It Angie and I we took a trip out to Charlotte for 10th wedding anniversary, and we went through the Hendrick Museum. And to see some of those older cars, like you know, the Tim Richmond drove and stuff like that, and you look inside those cars and realize we had more safety advances here in a hobby stock in 2001 than they would have had in a cup car. 87, I know that was a few years before that, but the speeds that they were carrying and what they were what those guys were going through.
SPEAKER_05Actually, in the 80s, the mile an hour was higher than what we're turning now. I mean, it was it wasn't uncommon to see over 200 miles an hour on a regular basis with far less technology than we got today. They've actually slowed the cars down. Which I think's bullshit. We're in the race. We're trying to race. Yeah, we're I don't know. Go to an NHR race and see what 340 mile an hour looks like. Yeah. That's a whole different ballgame. Right there.
SPEAKER_08Well, and we know that when we get in there, like if I'm racing NASCAR and they're like, I'm I want to go 200. I know I might take a chance at splatting my guts, but I want to go 200, and I want to be 200 this close to somebody.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_08Just that's just the best way to put it. And and it's like uh still to this day I've raced for this will be my 14th year, 13th year, 14th year. And uh, like we're driving down the highway and somebody will pull up, and it's like, oh yeah. Oh, you want to you want to go 85? I mean, I'll I'll crank the four of the F 250 up right now, bud. I'll pat you on the shoulder.
SPEAKER_06Whether it's on the interstate at 85 or in the school parking lot getting up to the cone. Somebody's got to get there first.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. One story we haven't told, we won't tell the whole story tonight. We'll have to, but what when some other night we need to talk about it was how Jonathan and I actually got paired as driver's head partners. That's fantastic. That is fantastic. That's good. Butterball didn't really know what she was in for at that moment. Yeah. But hey, should we go to a break and come back and uh we got to do our question and off it's mayhem.
SPEAKER_06And we're gonna talk a little bit about the power rankings, just kind of how that's going.
SPEAKER_07Yep, and then yeah, finish stuff up with Bill here. Yep. All right, we'll go to a break, um, send it off to our partners, and we'll be right back on one shift.
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SPEAKER_06Well, look, we have local mayhem. Like there's mayhem everywhere. We'll get a little late model action. Some sprint cars like to go tumble bugging around, but uh yeah, I got to be witness uh up close and personal to quite a bit of mayhem over at Stewart Speedway.
SPEAKER_07Actually tagged us and said, I better be the Moffitt's Mayhem. Yeah. And uh man, that 22 car, he popcanned that thing.
SPEAKER_06I'm not sure I've ever seen a hobby stock come apart like that when it when it hit, and I know he hit hard, but we're gonna have to get together and and uh sponsor him an extra bag of rivets and some body bolts, because that thing, uh yeah.
SPEAKER_05That's it didn't it didn't make a full 360 revolution and the body was completely off the card. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Well he was saving it for the rap guy. The rap guy. The rivets are hard to wrap around. Oh, yeah. Maybe he was just trying to save them and save the extra holes.
SPEAKER_06Well, Seth, you know, put in a few to get the wrap done, but then put the other ones. Like you're just saying.
SPEAKER_08It was just a shock, you know. Uh Stewart, the racetrack looked good, the racing was good. Um Damon Murdy getting upside down.
SPEAKER_06All by himself out there.
SPEAKER_08It must have been the four and a half inch shock rule. That there that it's no longer a thing.
SPEAKER_06I mean the right, the rule that isn't.
SPEAKER_08Right. Um, but that thing took a tumble too, fellas. Yeah, um, and it was hard. Yeah. Um and then, you know, the Mikey Smith and uh Jake Socow battle in the sport mod deal. Um, I don't know if Sokow Sokow was a little late to the party, had to maneuver through some traffic there or whatever, but my like Mike said, you know, he kind of I felt like in his interview, people probably looked at that like Mike just ran in to gauge Hillenberg. Um like intentionally. Um, you know, people just Well you could see the car chatter up the hill, like so well there wasn't yeah, it's just Mike got out of the car defending what had happened right away. Like, if you don't think it's you know, if you think it's easy out here, come out and do it. And it and what I took from that was is like we all know that Mike isn't a dirty driver, right? I don't know, I don't know of anybody b besides Rod Charman. This isn't a shot at you, that was at that was ever proclaimed to be a actual don't get around that guy, you know, and and Rod wasn't that guy unless you had an altercation on the track, and then he's taking you both out. So that will I'm if any Rod Charman fans out there, that wasn't a jab at him. I'm just saying like he was more of a bully if there was an altercation on the racetrack. Well, Mike Smith's a pretty clean racer. All the Smiths are really clean racers, and it was just a deal. There's three lap cars in front of you. You know somebody's breathing on your neck, which I don't know if he necessarily knew it was Socow because it's hard to see the scoreboard when like I mean you can see it, but while you're in race mode, you know, you're pretty busy on the pretty track of that tour. Yeah, you're busy all the time. So I I I just think it was just a a circumstantial just a racing deal, you know. Um Socow goes to stick his nose in there three wide, and Mike Smith pushes up the racetrack, collects Gay Chillenberg. Jeremiah Reid gets upside down, not real hard on the back straightaway. Uh look like the kids up there at their high school race car association deal got that thing buttoned back up. He was at Boone on Saturday night. Um and then you had Seth uh you know roll over in the hobby stocks, and I definitely think that uh the may the majority of the mayhem this week. And granted, there was only a couple tracks in our area that raced Boone and Stewart, uh, but I definitely think uh Stuart was uh gonna carry the mayhem flag this week for sure.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I would say uh and we'll we'll make sure and work with Garrett. We'll get some clips uh ple pieced into this so while we're talking about it and all that, but we got some.
SPEAKER_08Minute fit 155, Garrett. Minute 155 on that. Come on.
SPEAKER_06On the dial. But I think Cody got a little bit of mayhem on our little camera.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, so I we had our um you know our little camera that we got for the for the show, and I strapped it on Isaac's car. And uh that first before all the mud got it, because yeah, it didn't last too awful long, but we got that first initial one where um I think Colton Nelson said he went pole dancing. He did. So we did we did get that one right right on the uh on the deal. And uh but yeah, it was uh I mean nothing I mean other than that, that the I mean the hobby stock deal, the start of that hobby stock race was definite uh huh. Moffitt's mayhem.
SPEAKER_06But uh yeah, there was. Uh luckily that didn't turn out as bad as it could have been. Yeah, it could have been a lot worse.
SPEAKER_08Well, uh two, um the part of the mayhem was is uh I we got a phone call six o'clock on Wednesday night that uh potentially there wasn't gonna be a broadcast.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Get a we get the phone call. Of course, they always go to management first because they don't know what I'm doing. But uh then I get a phone call and uh it was uh hey, can you come to Stuart and drop a camera off? We don't have a camera working. And so I just went ahead and did what management does and passed that uh job along on to my 16-year-old kid. It was really easy to convince him because I was like, you can take my truck, that's fine. That was it.
SPEAKER_05Delegating responsibilities to others.
SPEAKER_08Right, right. And even though it was five dollars and nineteen cents a gallon, we got uh Ian, the old the old uh racetrack professional photographer or what do they call them guys, Garrett? Videographer, videographer, popular, yeah, broadcaster. Yeah, uh Ian, the main broadcaster, we got him hooked up.
SPEAKER_06Power cord replacer.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, he called yeah, it was just the power cord. The camera, uh, something happened, they had a pinched cord or something, but I so I talked to Ian on the phone and I he's like, uh, what's your kid look like? I'm like, believe me.
SPEAKER_09All right.
SPEAKER_08He's gonna come, he's gonna come cruising in on the old Ford, and I'll guarantee you he's gonna have some bumping something in there, you know. You can't miss him. So we got uh that was a little bit of a deal.
SPEAKER_07So uh Yeah, Nate called and he's like, hey, uh I'm in Vegas. They were shooting like a demo derby or something. Yeah. And he's like, What are you what are you doing right now?
SPEAKER_08Like, well, I'm at home, we have baseball practice coming up, and he's like, and then we like I said we got it all worked out, but well, and yeah, you know, we're just here, we're just JV doing JV things over here at uh watermelons and wood chips. Glad to be able to help out because I wanted to watch too, because I wasn't going. So we had uh we had meat on the girl. I was cooking my meat. Yep, and uh so Ivan uh the old ice dog, he flew the old F-250 down there, got her hooked up, Ian got her on the broadcast, and uh Saved the day. Saved the day. Everybody got to see a little mayhem then. Everybody got to see a little mayhem. Yeah, we wouldn't even have a mayhem. And that was not a jab at uh Stewart International Speed Bay. It was just that's just what happened. I mean, it just worked out. Just worked out how it was.
SPEAKER_06Uh I'd say Mike's really thankful. Really thankful. I sure hope he is. I bet he is. Yeah, I know he is. Yeah. Yep. And uh, we're not just gonna get somebody to sponsor Seth some rivets and stuff, maybe a little longer chin strap for the help for the helmet. Yeah, I mean that was kind of wild. Uh maybe, I don't know, super glue that some bitch to your head. I don't know what we're gonna do here, Seth, but we can't have that happen. That's only that's the second time I've seen that happen in my life.
SPEAKER_05It was in the mid-90s, and I was racing with Bill Davis, Wednesday night program at OSCE, and I'm standing getting my pit pass, and walk up to the back straightaway, and I got there late, and they were already hot lapping, and a hobby stock went down the back straightaway at Oskalooson. You know how fast that place is. And I mean, there were parts scattered all down the back straightaway, and here comes a helmet rolling off, and it's like, uh, I'm not even gonna walk over there because there might still be a head in that thing.
SPEAKER_07Can I get my twenty can I get my 20 back?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I'm gonna turn my my wristband in. I think I'm headed home. Yeah. But when you see a helmet rolling down the back straightaway at Oscaloosa, yeah, you makes you think really well it's a scary moment.
SPEAKER_06Very scary.
SPEAKER_08It's a very, very scary moment.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I mean it's a serious deal. I mean, the safety part of this sport is we when you do it all the time, you get really comfortable. Comfortable.
SPEAKER_08Comfortable.
SPEAKER_05And you and you I mean, just silly things like you know, breaking a motor or having a having a line break, and you got flammable fluids and a fire's a big deal, or parts falling off another car.
SPEAKER_08I know I had a chunk of lead last year.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I know Kevin Stowe got hurt real bad with a starter that hit him in the face. You know, it had to have reconstructive surgery on his face. First night Stoneburner drove my car back in 2001. We got rained out at Des Moines after the heat races, so we had to come back the following week for double features. And he's out there in the in the makeup feature, come down the front straightaway, come down into turn one and two, pulled right in the infield and it's parked, and it's like, well shit, my my car's broke. He's sitting there and all of a sudden he's waving and people are coming over there. Well, when he came down the front straightaway, he put his hand up because it was throwing a yellow, something hit him in the wrist, and he thought he broke his he thought he broke his hand and his wrist, and he was bleeding pretty bad. And we ended up taking him um back to Boone to uh outpatients and get his arm x-rayed. Well, you guys really wanted him to get hurt, didn't you? Oh yeah. Bringing him back to Boone when you were injured. Yeah, we were yeah, we were I'm kidding.
SPEAKER_08I'm kidding.
SPEAKER_09Everybody at the hospital's great.
SPEAKER_08So Rob's gonna be pissed.
SPEAKER_07No shit. Sorry, Rob.
SPEAKER_05So he comes down to the shop and he got his arm all bandaged up, and I said, You think you're okay to drive tonight? Because we were gonna run boon, and he goes, Yeah, I think I'll be okay, but he says pretty sore and cleaning the car out. Found a brake shoe off of a hobby stock. You know, the the actual brake shoe was down by the seat. That's what come through the window. It got kicked off the racetrack with the car in front of him and went through the went through the front bars while he had his hand up waving for the caution and got hit right in the arm on that thing, you know. And if that would have hit you in the face or in the sternum, you know, it wouldn't have been a good outcome.
SPEAKER_08Old Danny just lit up a one GPC 100 and just behind it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, another 12-pack of Bush Light.
SPEAKER_08He's on the Ultras now. I was down there having one. Oh, yeah, he's retired now.
SPEAKER_05He's he's eye-toning on us. I tried to get him switch over to natural light, but he didn't have nothing.
SPEAKER_07I was gonna say the only thing that they drink in Mongona, I think, is natural light. Oh, natural light.
SPEAKER_05That's how Rich Lang got his nickname. Oh, three for twelve.
SPEAKER_07Well, that's yeah, Joel, uh Joel, when we were in college, Joel's like, I can get a 30-pack for the same price you guys get 24, I get six free. That's right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. That uh safety stuff's nothing to take lately. I mean, and it's we talked about Dale Earnhardt, you know, and how how much of an effect that that had on the motorsports industry. But, you know, you go all the way down to I don't give a damn if you're in a in a mini mod. Like, you can't put a price on safety, and you just if you can't afford it, don't do it yet. Right. You know, you're not you don't have to not ever do it. Just take that little bit of extra time and get that safety equipment and and do it right, because you know, we all want to race and we all we all want to stay part of the sport, we love it, but if one person and not just if one person, but if it happens in a certain way, it can it could shut a place down. No, exactly.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. At the end of the day, we're we're out there competing and we're trying to have fun and you know it ain't fun when you get hurt. You know what I mean? And you know, there's uh there's a medical side of things. If you know an injury that costs you hundreds of thousands of dollars or more, you know, with with uh something that seemed harmless at the time.
SPEAKER_06And we see it all the time too. Like we have you have groups of people that you know, ah, they're mad at this group and they're mad at this group, but if something bad happens, all those groups come together. Like we're all a big family, right? Um, you know, whether we're getting along or not, in that moment we are. Right. Exactly. And ultimately, yeah, we want to see everybody safe. So Seth, we'll give you a little bit of shit for all that, but buddy, we want to see you safe. We want to see you come back out the next night, which you did Saturday night at Boone. So that was cool to see him roll out. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07So no pun intended. No pun intended.
SPEAKER_06Um I think that's the mayhem. Yeah. For sure.
SPEAKER_07Well, and so the next question was kind of alluding towards you know, more towards Bill, right? Um was uh who's been your Elmquest toying question of the week was who has been your biggest influence in the dirt track racing industry or towards your racing career? And actually the one of the first comments that popped up was about this guy. So um, you know, and like I said, that just when we were talking about having having Bill on, I'm like, man, that I think this is be a good question because and uh we got it out there a little late. We've had it on for four hours, and there's 70 or 67 comments. I was just gonna say, really? I got blocked again. I'm only seeing 67 over there.
SPEAKER_06No, I think you're still in the clear, buddy.
SPEAKER_07I'm in the clear. You're doing good. But uh Yeah, and and you know, it's I go to obviously from like the professional side, Lottie, obviously. Um when I was in high school, um Toby Cruz took me announcing and flagging a lot, and I learned a lot from him. Um and actually more when I was doing my uh journalism stuff, uh one guy that took the time that did not have to was Carl Frederickson. And he was the editor in chief at Speedway Illustrated before I think he and now he owns uh owns Eddie Bod from Dick Berger and but he took the time and I had sent just a like a janky terrible article that I wrote, and I but it was I was just shooting my shot, I was in high school. And um he emailed me back and he had all these edits and like here's why we do it this way, this is what I want to see, like, and then he gave me a shot and I was published in Speed of Illustrated like three times as a senior in high school. Very cool. Which was cool, and then did some more and then you know, obviously college and racing and drinking beers. Yeah. Kind of get away, but that that's one that sticks out in my mind that will always be grateful to Carl because um I still remember that getting that email and I'm like, holy shit, he responded. And it wasn't just like hey thanks, or it wasn't a general email. He took the time out of his day to say basically show me what I did wrong and what I want to do, and and you know, so that's one that uh stands out in my mind.
SPEAKER_06I definitely uh from the racing when I did race, uh the one that comes out quick is Ron Little. I, you know, ra just getting started, didn't know anybody, and pulled in at Stuart and ended up parking next to Ron, didn't even really I knew who he was because I'd been to the races and stuff, but um and then I I didn't even have my engine timed and I was told I needed to get that done before we started racing that night, so I just basically knocked on his trailer door and said, Hey, do you have a timing light I could use by chance? Oh no, I'll just come over and do it. And he was so nice and you know, just talk to me real quick about how to get around the place, and you know, he's like, Don't hold your breath like just a little quick thing like that, but man, you get around that place quick. Yeah, and uh but yeah, and then just you know, just a few short weeks later he was gone. And that really like had an effect on me as far as the racing side, but then uh when I got into working at the track, um I gotta say, like Nona, Sarah, um uh Debbie uh over Stuart and Mary Brown, like they they taught me scoring, they taught me you know the management side of a race night, like whether it's doing it all by hand, and then then on the computer side of things, I kind of learned a lot of that on my own, but um you know, going over the years, the stuff I've picked up and Colton has taught me a ton. Um so I'll always be thankful for for all of them. Yeah, he kind of owes you. He really well, yeah, he does. I mean for a long time.
SPEAKER_08Even though you're scrogging his mom.
SPEAKER_06Colton never interrupted me. So I mean I'm just saying like he is a he's gonna watch us and go, God damn. Right, right.
SPEAKER_08About shit. When I seen him, I hadn't uh since we went to what you smoking. Where was Coda butt last night?
SPEAKER_06Uh well, she I think she was home with the dogs. But or working on her taxes, one of the two. Is that fair?
SPEAKER_08Fair. I just I come up to the tower and he just had the old uh the old broom.
SPEAKER_06Yep, he does that once in a while.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, he just just well, and you know It's because our reds are so white.
SPEAKER_06Right. And it really, boy, when it comes out, yeah, it's very I mean it looked good, Colton.
SPEAKER_08I'm not I'm not taking another from you. I was just shocked a little bit.
SPEAKER_06Um if you don't say five time.
SPEAKER_08Well, the only person that has inspired me is you know, I lived a very different life when it came to the racing world, if that makes sense. And I don't mean that in a cocky way. I mean that as in like I grew up like I was all excited to go to the races, but back then you the kids weren't allowed to be in the pits at a lot of places. So there were times where Bill Gunther would either take me to the grandstands or I would go. my grandparents like my grandparents uh you know we had a van that we traveled around in with four other c or three other couples but my the person that has inspired me the most is is my dad you know and and that's really I mean Jimmy Gust I I got a couple heroes you know in in Racing World and it's my dad Jimmy Guston and uh I when I learned about Scott Bloomquist like that was cool you know like because Scott Bloomquist was a weirdo that wore you know police uniforms and my dad raced with him you know at at a couple of places and and my dad had a big part with Willie Craft and and just like how do you and the other thing is is how do you top the five time I mean not tootin your horn dad but I'm just saying like when we went racing we pull into a racetrack and people were like damn it Logsier you know like my dad had so much success that it was almost a like I mean of course we were pumped up you know but one other uh the other person was Kenny Schrader Kenny Schrader raced my dad's car several times over the years um and seeing the skull bandit car and just Kenny is just an absolute awesome awesome person always gave me the time like every time like it was like he could I remember the one time we were racing somewhere in Missouri and he pulled up on his motorcycle man and he had the helmet on and brown all brown brand new motorcycle and he just cruises in like it's nothing hey bud what's going on you know just like like and I'm just like oh my god this is freaking awesome I mean he stuck his finger in my pizza one time and I wasn't gonna eat the piece of pizza oh god at town I've heard some wild stories about Kenny I didn't know where he did I'm not shitting you well and then one time we went out to Colorado we went out to Colorado to race there was this big show intensity was putting on a 10,000 to win show and uh Kenny was you know going to drive it was a promotional deal Kenny was going to drive my dad's car there so we go out there and it was the first time I'd ever seen a tornado in real life. Oh yeah it was scary as shit too and this guy I could like the pit area and then the grandstands like you had to go to the grandstands to go to the restroom and and get the concession stand stuff and I went there and got a piece of pizza and this guy kept giving me a hard time because kids weren't really it wasn't a thing back in the day to have kids in the pit area. Right. And Kenny was and I'm like I'm telling this guy I'm like I'm with Kenny Schrader like he's driving my dad's car we're pitted right there. I'm like here he comes right now and I got this piece of pizza and Kenny just sticks his finger in there pretty good bud and looked at that guy and he's like yeah he's with me that guy you know Kenny's who Kenny is you know and I just like man like it's giving me the chills talking about it just because Kenny he had a black pilot for a long time in Knoxville the Harris Clash dad was driving Rich Laworke's car Kenny was driving my dad's car and uh we're in the rig and I mean I was just always I was like Kenny's shadow because you could a NASCAR driver is driving my dad's race car. This is cool as shit we go in there and the pilot we every time we watch Days of Thunder. I didn't realize how much Kenny was actually in that movie like they're driving down the road and the car that's rolling in the background Kenny's like yeah that's me right there I'm like really like I had no idea. Yeah so and that made it like two thousand more times cooler.
SPEAKER_07Yeah you know because that was about the time that you and I were about wearing those out on the old VHS tapes man.
SPEAKER_08Right. I have seen that movie right and it's like so those are the people that really inspired me and and um have coached me and been my dad's been the biggest part of my racing career and I've been an asshole to him. Yeah I mean as far as like you know he owned my I don't mean that in a bad way I mean that in a way that's like I love my dad you take it for granted right I you really do. I mean it's because he put so much pressure on me and there and you know you know as a dad we don't cut you no slack. None. None and and it's made it to where I am harder on myself when I don't do good. My dad don't even have to say anything. Like there's the look and you're like yeah I know. Right and and it's not even a look like he's never been like you know you really suck out there.
SPEAKER_06The pressure isn't intentional.
SPEAKER_08The the part right he wants you to succeed. Correct obviously correct the the biggest moments in my racing career was winning the supernationals in the in the race of champions and all that shit and having my dad come up there and my dad is very everybody thinks he's a dick but he's he'd do anything for you wouldn't he Bill? I mean he's just a really good guy and and to see his emotions of I mean it made me tear up the third time we won the Supernationals because he just just the look and like I was always the first one in his car when he won the Supernationals and that bond like it's getting me all Yankee over here right now man like but I'm just it's so special and means so much to me and everything that you know everybody thinks that my dad had everything handed to him on a silver platter too and and he didn't you know and he built something and was a dick along the way and created this huge what do you I don't know what word I'm looking for but just kind of a persona persona yeah well and like to that I was gonna say you know also if I don't mention my cousin Jason like from from my standpoint.
SPEAKER_06Yeah he'll double leg you yeah yeah he'd be like that little son of a bitch.
SPEAKER_07But no I mean uh you know from my standpoint like from a racing side Jason taught me so much my dad obviously raced for a long time too and it has helped me along the way and but you know Jason and I everybody thinks we're brothers but he he's my cousin so you know like oh your nephew out there like well J Isaac also or he's just he's my second cousin technically but but Jason and I have been so tight ever since we were little kids you know I was a little kid and then Jason was always working on my dad's stuff like and I remember that from you know being in Pampers right as Jason was always around helping and um and then as we get older Jason starts racing and I'm always at the shop right and like they taught me so much you know working on you know dad and I would would build Jason's hobby stock motors in our garage and you know just start that kind of evolved and then you know doing the stock car thing and then obviously Bill helped us out a lot when we first got that first Dirtworks car. Um and just being around that and then we go travel and we go we get the opportunity to go work for Jeff Connor and we're on the road all the time working for the power lift team and and just you know I in my racing journey along the way from the time I was a toddler to to now you know Jason's been there and even even Saturday right I'm learning stuff from him and we're talking and he's we're talking about family stuff and it's just so if I didn't say Jason also you know and like same same kind of not on the same level as like what you guys have experienced with all this stuff but Jason had a lot of success too. Oh yeah and so to see from where we started bomb I mean I was there when he we were bombcaning his first hobby stock in the West Central shop to win in supernationals and doing all that stuff. It's just yeah I'm kind of feeling the same way you were but like seriously though it's very you start to put it all into perspective and it's like and now the Isaac's racing he's 19 years old you know and having some success and and you know when when I watch him race you know I try to take the fan out of it right but you know I'm still watching how can you right I'm still watching you know I see your ass pacing around the infield you ain't taking the fan right the the one the one race was the the uh the year that won the Supernationals and Isaac was running him down he was in second I think Isaac was fifteen at the time and I'm like holy shit we've got a shot of winning this deal and I think I was and uh but it was and I think Jim Stanard actually texted me he's like are you gonna wear the concrete out down there because I was just losing my mind and if you smoked you would have had a J J Nodoboom roof uh ring of cigarette buttons yeah but the like there again we got into this industry because of something like that. Yeah you know what I mean and I'm sure yeah obviously it was the same for you. Yeah Bill so we're on to Bill now.
SPEAKER_08Who who's your guy who was your inspire?
SPEAKER_05Oh it's a lot of people because obviously I'm twice as old as you guys are so I have twice the opportunity to right you know we're gonna give you the twice the opportunity here so go ahead with the list. Well I mean obviously I started racing with Arnie Braylon back in the day and you know that evolved with Braylon to Everett Southern I mean as a person and a businessman and his affiliation with the Boone Speedway along the way and his own kids were you know my age and a little younger Kendall and and uh Dr. Kent Kaplan you know I mean I was the same age as as Kent was he actually bought my old 63 Impala when he was going to medical school at University of Iowa for a commuter car back and forth. Yeah but you know racing with Bill Davis Sr. and and uh Bill's car owner Axel Andreessen who passed away I mean Axel was Axel is one of them guys that was so much smarter than 99% of the people in the racing industry. You just wanted to he was one of them guys that never said anything but you you wanted to do good because you didn't want to embarrass yourself around that guy. I mean he did he just was that far above the average guy in the motorsport on everything from the front bumper to the rear bumper on that car. I mean he was quite an innovator you know he owned Bill's cars for quite a few years and then you know a lot of my customer base that I've had over the years I I can't I lost track I mean with with um you know Davis and the year the year that Ron Pope won Supernationals he was running my trannies and Scott Pounds back in the 90s he won national championship running my trannies and stock car guys like Brian Blessington and Bobby Greiner and Mike Nichols and Jeff and Shannon Anderson how many hundreds and hundreds of feature wins that guys thousands of feature wins dozens of national championships with you know the just the people that I mentioned you know and so you know the people you meet along the way is such a big part of the racing industry and the like Cody was talking the hours you spend with somebody prepping a car that car sees the racetrack for an eight lap heat race and a 20 lap feature it's on the track for 15 minutes a week but you're spending 20 or 30 hours with somebody you know and you know it's it's a little different now because a lot of the cars are pre-built and you're not going to the junkyard and piecing something together but back in the day you you worked all winter you had to have an off season because it took all winter to prep a car to start the spring with you didn't go to Arizona and Florida and Texas because you didn't have nothing to race you sold it to build a new one and it it was a lot different you turn the clock back but wow you know a lot of bills I noticed that in this episode around the bills over here and like mighty ducks they say ducks fly together it's the bills fly together yeah I mean golly well and it kind of wrapped that up to like you you just talked about taking the fan out of it like even when you're doing on our side when that happens what are you doing?
SPEAKER_08You know what I mean that's how I look at it is what what there's a saying you can take the race car from a race car driver but you can't take the race out of a driver you take the boy off the farm take the farm out of the boy that's something like something like that or whatever it is. I've heard that a few times you know what Garrett don't even don't even think that that's that fun hey he'll cast one at you if you're not careful. I see it could be holding into captivity. You know I had a lot of references last night when I went down to the shack to get a burger it's uh hey you just gotta dig it somehow it's I I just gotta dig it.
SPEAKER_06But yeah it's uh what else we gotta we gotta talk about the power rankings.
SPEAKER_07Oh yes quickly the Adobe power rankings so once we get into the second our formula really won't show itself until we get to the second night if you really want to see it right now just go look at MRP at the points from last night.
SPEAKER_06That's how it's gonna shake out. I mean it's pretty simple I'm ninth I ran ninth but now starting week two that'll bring things like how many cars you passed into play and and the prior weeks and so it's gonna it's gonna really be pretty cool I think.
SPEAKER_07Yeah I'm I'm excited to actually see it through and see it work and it's it's gonna be neat.
SPEAKER_06I'm really waiting for uh like some of the betting sites to start getting a hold of us to uh look into how we're gonna utilize this on a national level.
SPEAKER_07Everything's for sale everything's for sale but uh yeah so power rankings like I said once that hits the second week that'll start to kind of show its face a lot and be easier to understand um and then when we hopefully don't race till uh midnight or after we can do our drone interview after the races with our winner but you know Josh May picked up the watermelons and wood chips performance bodies race a night trophy there for for those guys so I was just gonna ask who got that who got the$50 gift or Josh May the Dorf car and I think we would you guys decide that because everybody was doing the finger dance or what? It was we just said it would be the first race of the mod that's right that's right my bad yep but uh yeah I don't know like I said we kind of talked off air after the the last break we hadn't even scratched the surface with Bill so have to have you back. Yeah we he's like no there's no he smiled more times than I thought he was gonna so well there's plenty of stories that you know just with me running around with with him and Joel too you know that we haven't hadn't talked about something we probably can't talk about but um I found out a lot he's 35 now you know that first suburban he had every time he came home and I'd walk around that thing and I'd go what the hell happened here he goes that was always there what do you mean I go uh no well yeah I found out I found out way more than I needed to know I have now that you say that because the one story I was thinking in my mind does have to do with a suburban so we go we go to Bill's shop after the races one night and we go get I think had a beer down there.
SPEAKER_06Maybe I'm guessing that's what it was we come back and we're coming down the hill from Angona and we're sitting there and there was a deer sitting on the you can ask Joel this is a hundred percent true we we stop on the road because he's like I don't want to hit that thing you know and we sit there and wait for it and he's like oh it's not going and he starts to take off and that deer runs beside us turns hard left and just headbutts the side of this bourbon and so I was like oh my god your dad's gonna kill us he's like what he's like what do I do now like we didn't even do anything wrong but yeah so that was how one of the dents happened to us yeah the the deer really did run into the side of us so they do that down there all the time Cody and Joel cooked that story up 13 years ago and they've been waiting for this moment to tell you that would yeah that would have been longer than 13 years ago probably yeah no I um but yeah was you in the thing the night that they had like 13 people sandwiched in that no but I know the story and they were yes they were in a drive thru I'm pretty sure yes was not there but I was uh there not far away to set a world record for capacity not far away pretty sure that's when I lived in Ames and they were leaving my house so the suburban was at captivity yes suburban was at captivity they had left I'm pretty positive they left my house in Ames and that's yeah had to get everybody back home so but anyway um we do thank we do appreciate you coming on because like I said this has been one we've been on our bucket list and we appreciate appreciate your time it's been pretty awesome well trust me my time ain't worth much so you can have me on anytime you want there you go he said it folks hey it's gonna be a struggle he'll he'll be able to come up them steps we might be able to get you on here two times for J Van I'm just saying well there's a new J Van in the house so knock it off you wait till I see Emily I'm just telling you I love it I'm just gonna I'm gonna have to tell her hey make sure you tell them you did that on purpose right oh yeah you would you would you're not gonna let me surprise attackers oh no I won't tell you I won't do that all right afterwards but we do want to thank right Central Iowa diesel performance hey hold on a minute hold on a minute we've got to do one more thing before we close out computer go so no I was gonna save that for the next episode because there are some things that we've already gone two and a half hours which is fine because but uh we need to do another we were talking about this earlier on air watermelons and wood chips pit pass giveaway oh yes weekly pit pass giveaway the only way to get in on that drawing is to like follow and share the podcast we're gonna put some we're gonna work something up here with Coot I'm gonna give a free pit pass away for next week's do it for Saturday Saturday's episode or Saturday episode could be an episode it could be an episode but uh we're gonna do another giveaway a free pit pass to the Boone Speedway yeah there's on there's talk of the doing that every week um maybe what is the date on that fellows the eighteenth of April giveaway um we're gonna put a post out we will uh we'll use the post from the likes and the comments to glean the numbers to do the um the drawing so you will have to comment on the post but yeah you need to like subscribe the you know all the things just like we did for the weekly yep the weekly one for supernationals and uh uh speaking of that boys we are five away from oh we're gonna have handlebars next next week next week we'll be shaving them in the we're at four thousand four thousand nine ninety five as the as of the end of this episode. Gee's got a full red going so he's ready. Uh huh I've been growing mine in a little trying to make so I can fill in the holes but so stay tuned to the
SPEAKER_08The uh watermelons and wood chips Facebook page. Uh I'm sure Cooter's going to post that on uh Instagram, all of our platforms. Um the winner, we will draw the winner Saturday morning.
SPEAKER_06We could maybe even do like a a Facebook Live or something like Friday night or Friday afternoon or Friday something.
SPEAKER_08Well that's gonna have to be probably you guys because I'm gonna go to the Marshtown Speedway if they're racing.
SPEAKER_06We could do it, maybe we can do it when you're either there in the pits or on your way or something. We'll figure something out.
SPEAKER_08We most definitely could, but I uh uh it's just something we come up with here. Yep. Um The Big Brain. No, it wasn't big brain.
SPEAKER_06The big brains came up with it.
SPEAKER_08It wasn't me.
SPEAKER_06It wasn't me at all.
SPEAKER_08Don't make me start pulling them out because I can I got a few in the old closet over here. But folks, I'm telling you, pay attention to our uh Facebook page, our platforms. We've got to thank all of our our uh content sponsors, Adobe Lounge, uh Central Iowa decent performance, performance bodies, yeah. Um P1P canopy, Logue Fabrication. Elmquist. Elmquist. Always Moffitt's Ford, Moffitt's Ford in Iowa. Um Barntown for the I track Barntown. Uh I am I mean Boon Speedway. Um can't thank everybody that makes this possible for us here at Watermelons and Wood Chips. Um I think we're gonna close her out on that one.
SPEAKER_06We're thankful, we're thankful for all of you, for everybody that watches and and has anything to do with it.
SPEAKER_07So yeah, it's like I said, to see the growth of this is is incredible. And I'm refreshing again just to make sure we didn't get a couple more body.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, we'd be shaving right now. Right. Two the thing is on that free pit pass thing, um, whoever the winner is, I'm certain uh they will reach out or we will reach out to them and make that happen at the pit shack. Yep.
SPEAKER_06So don't panic. Yep. And any of the winners from the last week will have your stuff either at the track on Saturday or in the mail. I think that shirt's going out tomorrow.
SPEAKER_07Sounds good. Yep. Well, like we said, Jonathan rattled him off. He did a good job. Did great. Yep. So I just try to get it. Well, next time he has to rattle that many sponsors off, hopefully he's in victory lane. Exactly. I would love that. Although, you know, next episode. Continue on. You got it. All right. But uh hey, thank you guys. We appreciate you as always. Um like, subscribe, share all the things. Until next week, you've been watching Watermelons and Woodchips. We appreciate you. See ya.
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