Watermelons & Woodchips Episode 35: Bruce Badgley

W&W presented by Central Iowa Diesel Performance.  Episode 35 with Bruce Badgley - "I'm not a good reader, but I'm a good picture looker" - Bobcat. 
Bruce and the boys recapped Saturday's action.  Bobcat talked about a couple altercations over the weekend, and tried not to get us kicked out of Lake City before we even got there.  We then got Bruce's story, how he got involved in racing, how photography has evolved, and even got an official announcement on what is next for Motorsports Photography coming in June. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_10 0:11

Well hold on, wait a minute. What do you got going on? You haven't even said yet. So wait, what are you doing? Well, give it it, giving it up.

SPEAKER_13 0:22

Welcome, race fans, Watermelons and Woodchips, presented by Central Iowa Diesel Performance, and we're on episode 35. 35 Terry Shaffer. Yeah. The old Terry Shaffer.

SPEAKER_12 0:33

Yeah, there's a good one. He was a motor cheating some monthly.

SPEAKER_02 0:36

I pulled one of them right out of his car one day.

SPEAKER_12 0:40

Oh, I'll guarantee he still remembers it.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

I know he does. And it was a 327, and she was a hog. Kind of not a whole hog, but it was a hog. Yeah. Not even 30 seconds in, we're hammering out a claim.

SPEAKER_13 0:54

So well, you know, obviously we have Jonathan Log, our resident redhead, down there, but we got another one to join you today, so you're not alone. There are we've had quite a few gingers on here.

SPEAKER_02 1:09

We have.

SPEAKER_13 1:09

Okay. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:10

Well, and it's 2-2 right out of the gate when we open the doors. And then depending on the guests, it gets some people get outnumbered quick.

SPEAKER_13 1:18

But Bruce Badgley's here with us. He's the track photographer at Boone Speedway and other places throughout the years as well, but been with us at Boone for a long time and has motorsports photography. So we will um we will talk to Bruce on ask him plenty of questions once we get down the road here. Um But hey, the first thing is though like you you made it. You you figured out where you were supposed to go. Apparently, Josh gave you the wrong address.

SPEAKER_09 1:46

Well, west side versus the east side.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

It's like my test for everybody. If I give them an address, if they find us, they really want to be on, I guess. I don't know. Right.

SPEAKER_13 1:59

Golf box. It works. It works.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

It's awesome. So we're getting a few things dialed in here. Something behind your head there in two different ways.

SPEAKER_12 2:08

That's right. That's right. We got starting to get some stuff up in here, starting to look a little bit more homey, if that uh makes sense.

SPEAKER_13 2:15

Uh we'll have the TVs fired up probably after tomorrow. Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

Yep. We'll have uh some interwebs going. And yeah, a lot of exciting stuff here. So anyway.

SPEAKER_12 2:27

It was it was an exciting weekend.

SPEAKER_02 2:29

It really was. I was gonna say, all the way across.

SPEAKER_12 2:31

There was a lot of a lot of a lot of everything going on this past weekend in racing. Um, you know, Thursday night Algona kicked off their week, uh running their, I think, third night. Um that's right. And then you had Marshalltown uh had to do a little track pack over there, which was nice to see the cars get out there and participate. I I seen the jammer Jimmy Gustin make a post on there. No, don't be bitching about the racetrack if you weren't out there packing.

SPEAKER_02 2:59

That's right.

SPEAKER_12 2:59

I also got a Snapchat from him of I guys, if you listen to the show and you are I I said here a few weeks ago, if you're behind Jimmy Gustin in a pack session, you are gonna get sprayed in the face with mud at like 6,800. I'm just telling you. And and then I seen another Snapchat about four minutes later, and Jerry was whipping the uh fire truck tires at uh Jim there. So they worked that in. Uh looks like it ended up working out for them and turning into a good show over there for the for everybody there towards the end of the night. The track came around and um and then Saturday. Holy moly, what a marathon, guys.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

Yeah, that you know that felt like a late afternoon supernaturals race. Like this certainly did. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. But right. But what can you do? I mean, uh, it's that's the rough thing is Well, I don't know, start an hour earlier, maybe.

SPEAKER_12 3:55

I mean, that would have been kind of cool. That I understand. Here's here how here's the positive thing about it. Um, it was like uh if you got there at five o'clock, racing got over at 12 56. It was like an eight-hour day at the I mean, like you're just imagine going to work, but you're going to the racetrack and watching. I mean, you got to see a ton, a ton of racing. Yep. Um, and I tell you what, it was some of the best racing, in my opinion, that's been at Boon Speedway all year.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Lot of uh lot of door-to-do, lot of I mean, coming down to the line, maybe one, two to go, close, close racing. And a and I won't say completely packed grandstand, but there was a lot of people there. They they ran a uh uh EMS and National Public Works Week promotion. Um if you if you worked at either of those professions, you got in for free and people showed out like Oh, it was it was crazy.

SPEAKER_12 4:50

Uh my dad, when he showed up and we were kind of just shooting the shit, and it's like, man, I mean, there is a crowd over there. Yes. I mean, yeah. And uh, you know, I think uh the the show was ran good. There were there were some hiccups. There's just a lot of moving parts on Saturday, there was just a lot going on, you know. And uh one of my favorite things that happened over the night, course of the night was Tommy gets on the radio and says, Jimmy Gustin, this is your feature. Feature number two to staging.

SPEAKER_13 5:24

Well, because he was asked, he'd asked Tommy like four or five times. Like, okay, so are we in if we're on which feature?

SPEAKER_12 5:32

It was hilarious. I mean, it was so funny. That is funny. That was that was probably one of my highlights of the night uh for me anyway.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

Um That was a little tweak that Rod wanted to throw in. Because and I I won't completely speak for him, but I think what he was looking for was groups of races to run so between farms.

SPEAKER_13 5:53

So it made more sense that way.

SPEAKER_02 5:55

So the laps kind of added up the same, so then the track would last about the same?

SPEAKER_12 6:00

How I took it was it was like how we used to run. We're running B features. This is the B feature segment of the of the show. Right. In the middle, yeah, yeah, yeah. In the middle of the show. Because then because what's been happening and what I've been noticing has been happening is once the modifieds go out, everybody starts gravitating and leaving. I mean, and then you know, like it bums me out. Like Saturday, I'm I'm like back and out, and I'm like, oh yeah. I gotta leave before all of you guys this time, you know, like and and so everybody's like, where are you going? I'm like, it's the first time because I've been in the second feature a lot of the times. Um so well, technically you still were.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

Yeah, you really were. You were just in the first one on the track. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_12 6:47

That's what I'm saying. So it was like it was just weird, but it it was good. Um, we loaded up and then ended up I got to go home, and I'm like, right?

SPEAKER_11 6:56

I'm sitting in my bed and my undies, and I'm like, yep, got the races on.

SPEAKER_12 7:01

I know you were texting, you were texting us about this the speed sign while we were still racing. It if it wouldn't have been so late and we weren't gonna have such a day uh on Sunday trying to get the race car ready to go to the whole hog fifty, um, I would have been down there maybe messing with the the speed cam a little bit. Um but I kept seeing the green light on the broadcast, and I'm like, alright, that's bugging me because A, it's not working, and B, just shut it off.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

Yeah. Yeah. The didn't did they really come up with a s like a permanent home for that? What's the idea on that?

SPEAKER_12 7:42

No, I think it was uh it was a big test on Saturday which failed horribly. Um I mean it worked some. It did. It did. I did see so when we got it down there, we took Coop down there. Coot and Coop, we went down there and did a little live footage out of Cooper was supposed to post it online. I don't know what he's done with the video. I think he's might be scared to post it because I was you know razzing him a little.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

I can imagine.

SPEAKER_12 8:05

But uh it was just a test run. Um I think that we want to well, we. I don't I don't mean to say we because I feel like it's my project. But uh I want to be able to get down there and I don't really necessarily we did the quick chat GPT read through on what does what, you know? And my buddies the one that actually got it figured out, uh the pro because we had to program it, like there's certain things, you know, and so we took it out to the speedway, of course. We get it there, turned on, it's picking up the tractor, seven mile an hour, nine mile an hour, you know. And so I'm like, we're good. Coot shows up, I'm like, bud, let's go down, let's fire it up, and let's, you know, doesn't work.

SPEAKER_05 8:50

Oh no.

SPEAKER_12 8:50

And I'm like, oh, right on. Well, there's three buttons on it, and it's pushed this one two times to get to this mode, and then push this button to do this three times, and do I mean it's like a thing, right? Okay. So me and buttons and electrical and that is not good. But we got it turned on, and we I think there's the positioning of the eye that catches your speed is pretty finicky, and I think it's just because I don't know what I'm doing with it. But we picked up some sport mods, they were going 67 mile an hour uh in hot laps, and I I don't know who it was or whatever, but that was also going into the corner, so I tried doing because there's like a degree that you gotta have on it, and so I was cranking down, and I mean, you know, we had the phone out on it and was doing the whole angle on the dangle thing, and that wasn't working. Then I'm just kind of like, okay, it was picking up a few, and it was sunny, so you couldn't see the light really well. I'm like, when it gets dark out, this thing's gonna be cock, it's gonna look right, it's gonna look good.

SPEAKER_11 10:00

Yep. And then I get out there and I'm like Where's it at?

SPEAKER_13 10:04

It's not working. Why? But then it would pick them up on cautions.

SPEAKER_11 10:08

Yeah, and I'm like, I'm like, yeah, that's great.

SPEAKER_12 10:11

You know, just needs a little tweaking. Well, I think, yeah, so it once we get it tweaked a little bit and figure out what we're doing with it on the cart, uh, the track doctor and I, uh, and Jeff, uh I talked to Jeff about it a little bit um this week and Lottie was kind of pumped up about it, like it was a good, you know, just a cool, it's something different, you know.

SPEAKER_04 10:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 10:31

So we wanna think that once we get it figured out, we want to hang it on the light pole and going into turn three. Yeah. Which I mean, I'm no electrical guy or anything. So Jason, we're gonna lean on you for this a little bit. Um But I think it's just a power cord that goes to a battery, and then there's uh you know the part that picks it up. We just unscrew that out of the box, and then I think we can mount it somewhere, and we're just gonna have to, and it's gonna be like looking right down the back straightaway, it's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be cool, yeah. It's gonna be super cool. But it was a horrific fail on Saturday.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

I not horrific. So in working in engineering, there really are no failures, you're just learning.

SPEAKER_12 11:17

So now I get why you're an engineer.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

Yeah, because I learn a lot.

SPEAKER_12 11:20

Right? I know, I watched you engineer this cart over here that we had for sure did.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

And uh yeah, it's with the spectacular instructions that luckily Katie came along and straightened me out on that because mean instructions don't work too well. But yes, um, I think it's very cool. And who do we have to thank for that magnificent piece of machinery anyway? What that speed trap. Oh, Elmquist Toyne. Jake Elmquest.

SPEAKER_12 11:48

Jake Elmquist, very cool, another uh huge supporter of the racetrack, does so much for the Boon Speedway. Um, not just the Boon Speedway, it does a lot for a lot of racetracks. He does, and racers. I mean right, and for him to, you know, I mean, it's just kind of cool.

SPEAKER_02 12:06

It is, you know, it's very cool. Yep.

SPEAKER_12 12:09

Yeah, what a night. I mean, uh the mod race kind of fired off and was kind of I mean, the track was like, I'm like, holy shit, this is gonna be good, you know.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

And uh it's like an old hobby stock race, 12 laps, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 12:25

I mean, and so everybody was aggressive right away. Right. Because we only got this many laps, you know, and I think you guys did the right thing on how you started them side by side with your yeah, because the leader was gone.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Yep. Oh, really? Yes, that's why. Okay. He would have started out front by himself as a leader. Uh 118 card. Yes. P Patterson. Uh Jesse Patterson. Okay. I think.

SPEAKER_12 12:48

Okay. Because in the stock car feature, I was actually supposed to start eighth uh or fourth row outside and end up starting second row outside because two people weren't able to make it, you know. So I think they just which I disagree with this. I think that's crap, but I think you guys should definitely crisscross when somebody's missing on a double feature.

SPEAKER_02 13:07

That is something we should probably have a conversation about that.

SPEAKER_12 13:10

Well, just because we had so much time, right? Like, okay, they didn't check in. So, like, you know, in my opinion, I I guess we should have just, you know, like basically I started second row, so third row inside, in my opinion, should have gone to second row. And then the guy in third row outside should have gone to third row inside. Right. And then, you know, kind of switched around. So it's like not the guys in the row are just benefiting from it.

SPEAKER_02 13:40

Like, it's definitely a precedent in the past. It's always been shove them ahead so that you know, so we're not having to go through the lineups and figure all that out. But I definitely I see how there can be a conversation about it.

SPEAKER_12 13:53

Yeah, and I it's always been that way. I've just always wondered why they didn't do that.

SPEAKER_02 13:57

You know, but like they always say, it hurts you this time, next time it benefits you. Correct. And it shot you forward this time instead of and usually you'd be the one that gets to watch everybody else move forward and go, what the hell?

SPEAKER_12 14:08

Well, and that's just it's it's man, like I seen Jake McBurney's post on Facebook about the whole d draw and vent and you COVID draw. COVID draw. It was I I got a chuckle out of it because man, it's like sometimes it feels like you're getting the short end of the stick. Like I get it, it's just computer, and you just do this, but Jake's three for three on that, you know, and that's what he posted, and it's like, man, it just makes you wonder, you know, and but that's just how it is. I mean, I get it, I understand, but I agree with Jake. I wish we could go back to the old draw stuff.

SPEAKER_02 14:42

I the on my perspective of that is I like to set it up so that it draws the number before the name. Because then there's no because people get it in their head, oh, it knows who I am, so it gives me a bad number, you know. And you can set it up that way that you pick it up. But it's I move I move it the other way so that it's draw, then pick the name. And that that to me is the most I mean to me I could care less one way or the other, other than I usually am in the position where I'm maybe the only one signing in drivers. Yeah. And if it's an extra 30 seconds for like let's take the whole hog, for example, 180 drivers, that add a ton of time to what you're doing, and anything you can do to to cut off a little bit of that time. Like Kristen was all by herself last night at Stuart and did a great job.

SPEAKER_12 15:29

She was slamming through the line. Yep. Um, but you know, and maybe that that's a good point, Josh. I mean, some of these people that run the MRP, maybe they'll hear this and you know, because once you figure out and you start get into a rhythm, it probably doesn't take that whole 30 seconds to do that. So maybe that's a that's a really good point that maybe some of these other people that have been doing the My Race Pass stuff for a while can start maybe trying to do that at some shows, whether it be just for one class and see if they can handle it. But yeah, I mean at 180 cars, that line was down the hill last night at Stuart. Yeah. And uh yeah, I mean they they did they they did they got everybody in through there real quick. Um the line that always you know comes out and goes clear down the road is always a pain in the ass, but they pushed through that pretty fast too. They had a ticket gal out there that was actually signing in, not just one person, like the truck, the driver, like she was letting everybody sign in, so that was that was convenient. So I think that sped things up just a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

Um but I did have, and I will say this because she called me this morning and verified it. I had 15 phone calls from Kristen last night. Exactly 15. Uh and it honestly it's just verification of things, you know. This is that was a big show for her to kind of be on her own. Absolutely. We were we had some places we had to be last night, graduation stuff, and I told her, I said, you call me, I'll answer. If I don't answer, I'll call you right back. And I I want to be that crutch for her if she needs it, because that's a big responsibility to jump in and do that by yourself.

SPEAKER_12 17:06

So well, and then on top of it, I'm up there because we had some stuff uh change for sponsorships for the hard charger, which I don't even know who got that in the stock cars. I'd have to look. I'll be able to tell you. Look, look and see who got that. And in the sport mods, because uh uh Mid-States Machine, thanks to them, uh they did a $300 hard charger for the IMC stock cars and they did a hundred and fifty dollar uh hard charger for the sport mods, but you couldn't win the race to receive that award. So I kind of thought that was a little cool twist, John put on that. Um so then we had to switch some other stuff around.

SPEAKER_02 17:43

We did uh Brayton Carter plus 13 is what it shows me. Of course he got it. Guess who was second? Ty. Jimmy Gustin, Mickayah Hodeball.

SPEAKER_12 17:57

No shit.

SPEAKER_02 17:58

Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_12 17:59

Uh no, good and and that's great because Braden uh runs mid-state machine stuff, you know. Um and uh was with a mid-states machine motor in the car that he was running. Um who won who got the sport modes? Oh look it up.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Uh and Brayton was in Dallin's car, is that right? Yep. And he looked for jumping. I mean, you've done that f before probably. You jump in another car and it's like you just go.

SPEAKER_12 18:25

Like Yeah, it it is different because like I don't I'm assuming obviously Braden went over there and put his seat in. You know, he's uh I think he's a little bit thicker, not much than Dallin, but um it's yeah, man, like you I kind of like when I started doing it for Todd and Buck um and Lori and them, um we put my seat in and it was like you know, I just showed up and raced the thing.

SPEAKER_03 18:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 18:51

You know, they had it all ready to go, they had tires ready to go, and then Matt was rant Buck and everybody's like, oh, what do you what do you think? You know, I mean like it's a pretty cool, it's a pretty cool thing. And Bray Speedy Bray's he he's good. I I wish he'd move up to a modified uh maybe someday, now that the spec motor is the exact same as what's in his sport mod. Just has a four-barrel on it instead of a two-barrel.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

I think he messed with me, so he went to practice at Stewart first of the year and he had full sail panels on. And I was like, oh, he's moving up finally. He's like, Well, no, it's different. B mod, they have full sail panels. I'm like, that's not fair. He won't do that to me. Teaser. I want to see him in a mod because I think he'll be good.

SPEAKER_12 19:31

Oh, I really do. Definitely think that he could have success right out of the gate right away with it, you know.

SPEAKER_02 19:37

And um your uh sport mod, by the way. Three-way tie. Three guys moved up six spots. Jake Sacko, Caleb Woodard, Mitchell Morris, and Jake finished the highest so he would get it.

SPEAKER_12 19:50

No kidding. Well, another mid-states machine guy right there. So uh John giving back to the racers as he always does. Uh so thank you, Mid-States Machine, on that. Um boy guys, shit got a little spicy down in the infield after the first stock carrier main at Boonspeed Way.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

Well, I you know, I was gonna ask you, but since you brought it up.

SPEAKER_12 20:10

Well, we were I I just figured since we moved on from uh from the Stuart deal or whatever, and in that, that because we we started with the modified, and then now we're going to go through the results for the makeup features real quick.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

Yeah, let's do that.

SPEAKER_13 20:24

You start with that, and then we'll go in with the conversation that me and the Well, it's funny that Cooper is here because he even made a comment about that because he was down in the infill with me. Oh, yeah. He was in the side by side. He's like, those guys look like they got beef. Did he really? Yeah. That's hilarious. Uh anyway, anyway, uh the makeup feature. Um Todd Shute gets a win.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Dom, he kind of blew him away. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 20:53

Jake McBurnie second, Nick Meyer third, Jeremy Mills fourth, Corey Sirman fifth. In that one. So um Todd rattled some wins off this year.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

He's starting to look a little like the Todd of old, a little.

SPEAKER_12 21:09

He's on fire. Well, he had a different nose on Saturday. I don't know if you guys have seen that because he KO'd the one on Friday. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But he has been on a tear in that thing.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

He was not airborne, but he was skywarded for a second. I was like, whoa, Todd. Right.

SPEAKER_13 21:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

And then then the spice, right? Then the spice.

SPEAKER_13 21:28

We're right to it. Just like that. Uh David Smith wins the stock car feature number one. The Bobcat goes second, Tyler Pickett goes third. Hunter Smith goes fourth, Doug Smith goes fifth. Um but man, what I mean that was a wild race.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

That was about the race of the night from my seat. Yeah. Like it was it was back and forth. You guys didn't touch at all until two to go. Uh almost two to go.

SPEAKER_12 22:00

I think so. One and a half to go.

SPEAKER_13 22:02

I can't yeah, it was so it was like yeah, coming to the white or c yeah, is it coming to the white or coming to the two to go? I th I think it was two to go.

SPEAKER_12 22:11

Yeah. Is when so what what a great yeah, great race we we take off and and Rod Richards and I I didn't know that he broke. I thought I just slid him and then we're we're going, you know.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

Yeah, because you wouldn't have seen him.

SPEAKER_12 22:25

I yeah You just as soon as you cleared him, he's like whoopee. Well, when I watched the video, I'm like, oh shit, because coming down the back stretch, you see his wheel just kind of do this, and then when we go into the corner, that's when it I don't know if a ball joint or that's kind of what it looked like was a ball joint.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

It slammed pretty hard.

SPEAKER_12 22:41

Yeah, and he goes off the racetrack, and um so I'm like, oh great. I think I was leading that last lap when we come by, you know, but I'm not really sure. So now I'm gonna have choice. Well, and then they're like, they didn't say for me to, you know, rod to like take so I had no idea even at that point. I just thought, oh, I led the lap. So we take we line up, and then all of a sudden I see Dave Smith down on the inside, and I'm like, all right, here he comes. You know, like do I stay where I'm at? Because I was just a little bit too tight to run the cushion. The cushion was a little nasty on Saturday. Like, and I what I mean nasty is is like it was grabbing you and it would it would throw you around a little bit, you know. But if you could hit it, man, it would there was a lot, there was a couple of things.

SPEAKER_13 23:28

I was just gonna say you were better when you could when you didn't have to slide up to it, you were better. Yeah. If you could just stay in the hammer and and drive around on it, you were better. But like you could tell it was tight, so you did have to slide up into it. Right.

SPEAKER_02 23:42

It looked to me like it was a I I'm weird like this, but I'll call it a left rear cushion, where you run over it and your left rear could grab that where you try to hit it with your right rear and it's trying to throw the nose of your car. And I mean, is that fair to say?

SPEAKER_12 23:59

Like 100%. And the only place that I've ever been able to do that is at Boone Speedway. But with the way that it looked, and I'm gonna get into this later too about this whole spin around at Stuart Speedway, but I'm referring I'm gonna go with this too. Last night or Saturday, it looked like it was so gummy and thick up there, if that makes sense, that you weren't gonna be able to do that because there's we've all been there where there's times where we're going in on the off ramp with our left rear on the cushion, and we're like It's dry where there's nothing left by the end of the night in the middle of like one and two, even in three and four we do that where there's a little bit going in and a little bit coming out, but in the middle there's nothing. It's up to the flat spot. You know, and I hate that flat spot because it doesn't punish you if you go off a little bit, or you know, like it's it kind of punishes you, but before you're out of the race. Yeah, and sometimes on your lid. And sometimes, like it's right, sometimes at Supernationals, that'll get beat down so far. Now all of a sudden we got guys up there and there's almost a lane if you got the balls, and it's not an early race or whatever. Right. Do you know what I'm saying? Like I've seen guys literally pass people up there.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

But it's one if you miss it by six inches, you're toast.

SPEAKER_12 25:21

You're done. Like, yep. Right. You've got to have some big cojones to go up there and do that. So um I was just hitting that, and then I seen Dave, and I'm like, because I at the beginning of the race, I was underneath a hot rod. So I was running that middle lane and stuff, but I was just kind of blasting it in there and getting all loose and stuff, and just trying to maintain, stay off a rod and race him clean. And and so I moved down to protect a little bit, and I'm like, man, I'm worse down here than I was up there. So I go back up there, and now I'm gaining my speed, and I see Daniel Hagin. We're coming down the back stretch. I see Daniel Hagen, you know, Dave's on the inside of me, and I'm like, at this point of the race, I'm like, I have to I'm committed to the top because that's where my car feels the best. I feel like we're far enough. I can see Hagen's broke. I can see that he's not like on the gas broke, like something's not right. But I thought there was enough room for me to go in there and hit my lane in the corner, and then I was gonna do the same thing. Like, if you don't use a lap car as a pick, you're an idiot. Well, yeah. And and so my thought in my brain was is I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna carry my momentum like I have been, and I'm gonna come out almost next to next to Dave, and we're both gonna go down. Well, that didn't happen. And Dave caught me, I don't know if that's that's the original bumper off whatever vehicle he had in high school, but that thing's heavy and gnarly. Okay. And so when we touched, it basically it flattened my door, my quarter panel, and everything clear into the almost my firewall. I mean, it just flattened it. And then I went to swerve down to miss the 57 car, and we almost kind of got hooked together. Where when we went down into one and two, it it when Dave went to set his car like he'd been setting it the whole race, it just kind of shoved my front end up a little bit to where then I had to correct. Well, then when I got back on the gas, as you all seen, I picked his ass end up and was gonna take him out. And I'm like, don't do that. And I backed out of the gas, which you can see on Doom Scroll. You know, Chris Cox, I'm gonna tell you something. If you're gonna film all of the shit, then I want the shit in the pit area too. Okay? Like, I mean, it's fine that you want to do the clickbait stuff. Like, that's great. But and I'm gonna get to the the reasoning and why I'm saying that here in a little bit about the 41 car. But um, so I'm like, I'm like, I get out of the gas. I knew at that point the race is over. There's no way I'm I'm not going to drive back past him in the corner. He has it, he wins the race, handsome or through. Yeah, I'm not gonna do that. We've seen it happen. We've seen it happen. Oh, yeah. I'm not gonna do that. So I just go up to the top, you know, take the thing, and we go down into the infield, and like I'm pissed because I didn't win the race, but I'm not like I'm not I wasn't mad about nothing or whatever. And so we take all the stuff, you know, we go over to the tech area and there's no victory lane, which by the way, I'm pissed that there was no victory lane on Saturday. When we get to the second segment of stuff, I'll go into why I was mad about that. But um We got a lot of second segments. Yes, we did, but it was a long way. We were at the track for like 12 hours. It's okay. I mean, it's positive stuff. Um, but I get out of the car and I go over to Dave like like and I'm like, good race, but what the hell was that? You know, like and he's like, Well, I didn't hit you.

SPEAKER_11 28:52

And I'm like, Dave, how did the how did the door in the corner panel go to the firewall then?

SPEAKER_12 28:58

And holy moly, I he lost his shit and started screaming, and he goes, I can get just as bad as you can. He goes, shut the fuck up and get back in your car.

SPEAKER_11 29:09

I reached to my pocket, grabbed the bogs, lit one, looked at him, and I'm like, All right. Because his his arms were going.

SPEAKER_12 29:18

Oh yeah. That's what I could see. Oh yeah. I mean, everybody should have known I was calm because my arms were at my side. Yep. And I didn't have I didn't even have his facial expression. Like I was giving Dave I know he does, I know he didn't intentionally wipe me out, or it there was no white, like I had so much fun racing and and to to race that close back and forth, like hey, you're driving your ass off. I screwed up and pushed and one and two. That was on the video. Thanks, Chris. You know, like it was it was great, and then all of a sudden it's all you know, everybody's it's it's a crybaby thing, and it's like, yeah, I'm just like, man, I wasn't mad. Like that was just hard racing. Yeah, it was great racing. Yep. And so I just like I said, I just lit my smoke up, got back in my car, and went back to my pit, pulled the fender off, fixed it up, and got ready for round two. It was like I wasn't there was no retaliation, there was no thought ever once in my mind, like, oh yeah, well, screw Dave Smith. I'm gonna like he's one of the best that's ever done it. And to race like that with him, well, first of all, the Smiths dominated on Saturday.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

They had a hell of a night.

SPEAKER_12 30:31

God damn.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

They won every feature there was. They had a hell of a night.

SPEAKER_12 30:34

Fuckers. But you know what I'm saying? So that just it's that's what that's what that family does is go to win races and stuff. And you know, if you know, Devin and Jimmy got into it last week. They bitch and cry just as much as we all bitch and cry. Every race car driver bitches and cries. I don't care who it is, my dad, Mark Noble, Wayne Larson, Bill Davis, all of us are crybabies.

SPEAKER_02 31:04

That's so refreshing to hear.

SPEAKER_11 31:06

Well, seriously, it is because it's like the altercation.

SPEAKER_13 31:10

I got my ass chewed more times on Saturday. Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

Not by bee one time.

SPEAKER_13 31:16

No, nope.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

Huh? But just everybody else. Only 227 cars, I think we had to.

SPEAKER_13 31:21

It was like more questions, more as chewings. Why is Flagman doing this? Why is he not doing that? I'm like, I don't know. I don't flag the fucking race.

SPEAKER_12 31:31

Well, I told Cody too. I'm like, well, but I don't think we'll be going to Lake City to do a podcast anymore, but maybe, you know, maybe he's a farmer like I worked for.

SPEAKER_13 31:42

I did talk to Dave later and he's like, have you talked to Johnson yet? I said, yeah, he was worried that we weren't gonna get invited back up to record the podcast. He's like, oh, now I really want you guys to come program.

SPEAKER_12 31:53

I see, and I see. But that's what I'm saying is, is like for for Dave, like I so my dad goes, man, what happened? You know, and so I was telling him, and he's like, Oh. He goes, Well, now wait a minute. You know, peep you have the reputation of you know being pissed off, you know. So people when when you approach people, they they think that you're pissed off already. Before you even get to them. Right. I'm like, I know. I've tried to make that really clear on the podcast because there's a lot of listeners. Like, if I'm pissed, I will come over and say, I'm fucking pissed.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

That's what I told Jonathan when I got here. I said, you know how I knew you weren't mad because he was lighting up a smoke. Right. I'm like, if he's not lighting up a smoke, then we're getting serious right now.

SPEAKER_12 32:40

Yeah, because usually if I'm mad, I've lost about a bottle of water and spit during the altercation. But you know what I'm saying? So like I'm glad that Dave, I because I really thought that he was like super big mad at me. Like, and I'm and I I like them guys. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 32:58

But I just thought it was funny, and Cody's like, man, I don't know, but I think I think heat of the moment for one, and plus that was the first warm race we've had all year, like temperature-wise, you know what I mean? So you guys got out of the car and you were actually probably warm, like yourselves. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 33:13

And and and it is what it is.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

I thought it was great. It was a great race. It really was from my perspective. I'm sure you probably saw it through your lens quite a few.

SPEAKER_09 33:22

And it made for good pictures in the same.

SPEAKER_13 33:25

I was just gonna say, I was thinking about this because yes, like I handed Dave the flag and he was still fired up, but he didn't even have a hold of the flag correctly. Like he was just so wound up.

SPEAKER_12 33:37

And you know what, Dave? I've had those as chewings, and I appreciate and love the fact that he said, I can get just as mad as you can, and because I've had those ash chewings, I can shoulder them. You know what else that's and I respect that, but back to it. When the racer quits worrying and getting upset about what happens on the racetrack, our sports and droppers.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

That's what I was just gonna say. Dave's not done. Right. If he's still got that fire, he ain't he ain't done. Right. So he's he's got some time in him left, which is great. That's what I want. Absolutely. I want them guys racing till they not till they can't walk, but but like for a long time. Right. Like I want to enjoy it. Right.

SPEAKER_13 34:14

So um A feature two, another Smith. Devin Smith wins that one. Scott Olson goes second. I thought Scotty was gonna get one. I know.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

I really did. He was running really good.

SPEAKER_12 34:26

Hey, so uh a little story on the second A feature. Jimmy Gustin takes a picture with Devin Smith holding the checkered flag. Do you guys know why? After last week? Yeah. So Devin made I I heard through the grapevine that Devin made the comment, don't worry, I'll put my turn signal on this week. And Jimmy's like, oh yeah, really? So then Jim's like, he goes, Yeah, I just went and grabbed the flag, so I go get a pitch with you. He did. He's like, give me that.

SPEAKER_13 34:51

So funny. So Devin wins, Scott goes second, Jeff Mueller third, Kyle Everts fourth, Jimmy Guson fifth. In that one. Um, so that's both the stock cars. We've got hobby stocks for makeup features left. Um Eric Knudsen had a solid night.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

I'd say he yeah, he is he a Smith? Like, is he related to the Smith by just?

SPEAKER_13 35:15

No, he was fast. He was real fast. So Wednesday feature one, Wayne Gifford goes second, uh Dragon goes third, Seth Butler fourth. Um in the Jack Hodenshield Penzoil 22. I was gonna ask uh Joe Wollenhop, round top five. No, it was awesome. I when I saw his car, I'm like, that's badass. He's like, I just had yellow paint, so I painted it yellow, and Jack was like, just put this. Yeah. I'm like, oh, it's great. That's good. So I did. I sent it, I sent the picture to Kendall and to Sheldon. I'm like, look at this for Askle.

SPEAKER_05 35:53

Nice.

SPEAKER_13 35:54

Um Hobby Stock featured two. Um Alex Jorger uh got his first ever first career win, yep. Yep. Uh Rudy, Aaron Rudolph goes second.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

Jeez. I was like, what happened? Sorry. Thought the cough box like reverberated.

SPEAKER_13 36:15

Broke.

SPEAKER_02 36:17

Anyway.

SPEAKER_13 36:17

Okay, so Jorger wins, Aaron Rudolph goes second, Matt McDonald third, Mitchell McNeil fourth, and uh makeinator got fifth.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

I was gonna say, so don't skip out of there just yet because we got sport mod two that we didn't get. Oh. I don't think we covered that. But Alex, so I did find out they say their last name Yeager. Easy to remember. Just like the Jaeger bomb. Jesus. Nice kid, we are on a roll. What is happening? Is it is it is Dave Brooklander in here right now? I don't know why it's it's yep. He's he's trying to watch a video, I think.

SPEAKER_13 36:59

But uh Sport Mod 2 then, right? Yes. Zoccar wins again. Um Joe Reeds goes second, Willie Kirk third, Randy Hadley fourth, Josiah Taylor. Plus 13.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

Yeah, Josiah. He did it, he had a good race. Um that was it, that would have been our well no, not our first, sorry. And then that was the makeup night, right?

SPEAKER_13 37:26

Yep, now I'm back to the other page. That's what I got on my computer, so nice and run both. Clark's using my internet on on my uh I can't hook it up here because he's he's got her bad on my own. He's got her going. Um, okay. So that kicks off the Corn Belt Clash.

SPEAKER_05 37:44

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_13 37:45

Mod Light. Um 40 of those guys, which was really cool to have those guys come to town. Um that Corn Belt deal, I mean, it's always right around that 40 mark, it seems like. High 30s. Um got to 40. Uh John Padilla and Brian Zeeem had a f and Josh May. Well, and even Austin Gray, yeah. So I'm looking at the top four right now. Austin Gray passed 12 cars to get to fourth, but at the end, I mean, you could have thrown a blanket over the top four of them. Yep. And Zeeem, every time he would get a run on Padilla, the car would start to hop through Nil at one and two. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

And so he'd get going, and then the things just like there's something I wanted to talk about, and I wanted to talk about with Jonathan on this. On on the mod lights specifically, because we saw Jason Toppenberg bike up and go flying off turn one. And I've been seeing mod lights do that a lot this year. It's like they're on the right rear so much when they get if they hit that that cushion and it's grabby, it just sends them up every time. And we've seen Col Colby Oberimp, we've seen a bunch of guys do it this year.

SPEAKER_13 38:58

Yeah, because Colby was probably he's probably another Moffat's mayhem nomination.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

Getting to be familiar with that list. Um but I just wonder on the mod lights, and I and I know every single race car drives different and all that, but like we were talking about straddle on that cushion, if you were able to hit it with your left rear versus your right rear, if that would help those mod light guys, you know, not bike up.

SPEAKER_12 39:22

I don't think so because their wheelbase is so small.

SPEAKER_02 39:25

Because it's a tight window for them to hit.

SPEAKER_12 39:27

I mean, yeah, you're I mean, you're they're such a small car and they're going so fast. Like, that's what I was pumped up to see on the radar gun was how fast the mod light guys are going. Honestly, because they're faster than the modified. Um so I honestly think like I'm gonna give Chase Alves some shit on this and be like, it's the it's the shock rule. You know, because he always bitched about the four and a half inch shock rule with the stock cars, and then Damon Murdy this year, first night of Stuart, no shock rule, and flips that thing over. Um so shout out to you, Chase. I just had to give you a little bit of shit because you always comment on that. But I the mod light guys, they're on a coil over uh shock spring setup. So um it's a lot different than a conventional spring and shock setup. So I don't really know, but the stuff that I have done on those cars, they are so rigid. Like they have got so many bars and so many things in there going on. Well, the ones that I have worked on, I don't know about all the other ones, or you know, everybody else's, but the ones that I have worked on, so when they take a tumble, they're actually pretty they hold up pretty frickin' well. I mean, unless it's like detrimental. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 40:44

Um but is it just that they're going so soft, like trying to find that line to soften it to the point where it does do that and then back off a little?

SPEAKER_12 40:52

All the guys tell me that you can't turn right in those cars or they'll just really you know I I don't I don't know if that's just because the wheelbase and how so locked down they are to the track, but I mean like if you guys watch them things, like they're hauling ass.

SPEAKER_02 41:08

Oh yeah, they're moving.

SPEAKER_12 41:09

Yeah, you know, for sure. So and they're small, so like when they roll, they almost gain some speed sometimes. It's like uh it's like watching a wingless midget. Yeah, yeah, literally, that's a perfect way to put it. Yeah. That'd be a qu I mean, maybe we need to get a mod light guy on here and ask him, like, Colby might, I mean, if he rolls like three or four more times, he's gonna hide the wrong. He's gonna hold the record on the rollovers here.

SPEAKER_02 41:39

Yeah. I was just curious because it it does make you wonder. Like, you do see that it seems like you're seeing it more now. And then, and usually from my seat, I've got a a monitor next to me when they show the replay when a guy does it, and you can watch them when they're in the corner and them things are really sitting over on that right rear.

SPEAKER_12 41:55

Well, I mean, we could solve that problem. I gotta wait, I gotta s I got a solution to solve that problem.

SPEAKER_02 42:00

What's that?

SPEAKER_12 42:00

We change the order of events. Don't give them a racetrack that's got all that grip in it. Put them on a slick track. Put them on a slick track when the and to where that cushion might be blown off by like the modifieds or something. Or you know, get get them out there on a slicker racetrack on something that doesn't have as much grip and isn't as fast. And I mean, you they're not gonna tell the difference in the car as far as speed. I mean, yeah, you're we all know that when the racetrack gets slicker we we slow down. But maybe there's so much grip out there that it's causing that to happen a little bit. Now, don't get me wrong, uh, guys could free their cars up to make it to where they're not as stuck to the racetrack. Right. But as fast. It'd be kind of cool to see them like fifth in the show instead of first.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

Don't ask Austin Gray that.

SPEAKER_12 42:52

Oh, I know. Or Brian Zane.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

They like the freshman.

SPEAKER_12 42:57

It's because they like to be home before everyone else. Yeah. Oh well. They go home, drop the trailer off, and then go meet JD Myers at the bar somewhere and have a few toddies and then go back home. Racers are still on.

SPEAKER_02 43:09

Their nights are longer than ours.

SPEAKER_12 43:11

Right. Yeah, correct. Correct.

SPEAKER_13 43:14

You're not wrong about that.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

Yeah. Yeah, Padilla was fast. He was fast, John, but he is a good guy. He is a good guy. Yes. Usually with a pretty good set of chops on the side. Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_12 43:27

I thought that B Z was going to drive around him on the outside and then pick it up. He looked like it kicked in.

SPEAKER_02 43:33

Yep. He missed his mark a time or two, and B Z got right there and then it was over. Yep.

SPEAKER_13 43:38

He just he was just a foot short.

SPEAKER_02 43:40

Yes, yeah. He's crossing that right foot over. We still gotta get that camera mounted in that car.

SPEAKER_13 43:45

We have goals. Yeah. Uh Sportmod, Peter number one, Jake Sacco. Weird another win. Mike Smith gets second. Uh Dusty Massolini third. Rainy Havlic fourth. So Rainy, I think Rainy had a good day.

SPEAKER_02 44:00

He did have a good day.

SPEAKER_13 44:01

Um, Chris Frisbee goes five. Um, but yeah, Jake, I just he'll figure that sport man out one of these days.

SPEAKER_02 44:10

Yeah, he's gonna. I heard he's eyeballing not number three for Supernationals. He's just gonna eyeball for four right now. He ain't doing shit.

SPEAKER_12 44:21

I just I don't know why I said that. I already told him I uh as soon as you know Matt went down to Corning this weekend, did a little test on our uh airflow system on the big half mile. Didn't work out that great. Worked good from the heat race, but uh had a malfunction failure.

SPEAKER_02 44:38

Uh we're still in the testing phase.

SPEAKER_12 44:40

Oh yeah. I I have a feeling we'll probably be testing this uh probably up until we're gonna I think we might try to debut it at Supernational's okay. All right. That'll be a good time. It might be a good way to promote it and sell it.

SPEAKER_02 44:53

There's a lot of B mains at Supernational's.

SPEAKER_12 44:55

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 44:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 44:56

That's when it works really good. That's the best. Gives you the max flow, usually about Bruce.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

I don't know what they'd do if we were ever serious on this show. Like people take everything serious, look out. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_13 45:11

Uh A feature two, topless Joe gets it done. First time. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, he was pretty pumped, and he's like, Did I just win that race? I'm like, it looks like it. Well, I'm like, dude, you about ate the concrete several times.

SPEAKER_12 45:26

Just slow down. You're fine. Well, but he's been planting at like 12 mile an hour with a high-speed planter, and you need to go fast. Okay. It's a little bit of a speed transition for him. I seen him come over and he had a rod going, and I love his mustache and shit. You know, he's like, hey, Joe. I'm like, geez, Joe, where are you been? He's like, well, we when I knew where he was, you know, planting and stuff. And that's why I brought up the whole fact I'm pissed about the interviews. We have a first-time winner that moves up like you're supposed to, from a hobby to a sport, or moves up a class, you know, and he goes out and runs a hell of a race. First time since he'd wrecked the car, he told me that the boys had it fixed up right away, but work and planting and that fun stuff, and then uh he goes out and backs it up and picks up his first win, and we don't even get to see the excitement, which I understand, but that's what makes it tough. We didn't get out of there till one o'clock. So right, that's what I'm saying. I think, in my opinion, if this happens again, I think you guys should honestly say, like, especially because we make the announcement at the racetrack, all right, everybody, double features next week. At that point, starting. Hey, we are gonna hot lap at 4 30. Everybody, in my opinion, like, I think you guys can relate to this too, wrestling tournaments. If you know you're going to a wrestling tournament, you're there an hour early. Oh, yeah. Especially if it's uh a of you know a good distance away. So all these racers, like it's Memorial Day weekend, like nobody really has anything going on other than just racing and like because holy shit, we come to the racetrack, and there was a pile of people there. They're grilling, they got the dogs and the burgers on, or whatever they were cooking. They're already there. Like at five o'clock, like in my opinion, we should have been features on the racetrack, racing, not opening ceremonies. Blah blah blah and I was gonna ask you guys about that. By the way, love the uh national anthem to uh gals uh the last two weeks of saying that. Same girl, same girl, Laney Breedon. Laney Breedon, thank you very much. Great job, awesome job.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

She's doing real good.

SPEAKER_12 47:39

And it's like one of those times where you know, I feel like when you hear it from somebody, it always gives you the little extra. All right, let's go racing. You know what it's weird.

SPEAKER_02 47:49

Even me, like, even if they're off a little, it's still it's just like it's real, it's there, it's live, it's right, exactly.

SPEAKER_12 47:57

The trumpet guy fucked that song up many times before it was the perfect one that everybody played. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:03

I mean, but when they nail it and she has the last two weeks, well, it's it does, it gives you the gooseies. It does.

SPEAKER_12 48:09

And and Dave Brooklanders, like I said, my favorite thing is good, hard, fast, clean racing. That's my favorite part of it the whole time, you know. Oh, yeah. So um awesome job on whoever found her, whatever she did. She reached out. Thank you. She did continue for the rest of the year, please.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

I did tell her when she left that anytime she comes, she's welcome to sing. Yeah. She said she'd let me know.

SPEAKER_12 48:33

Yeah. I mean, you should just show up and sing and then let me know. And then go do whatever you got to do. I mean, we're just saying.

SPEAKER_11 48:40

Yeah. No, she did get it. Or, like, if there's anybody else out there that listens to the podcast, right? Like, is there auditions opening? Can't make it, or you know, whoever.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

I mean all we have been requested to do is have some kind of a you know, like a video of them singing. Just so and I'm not saying this in a bad way. You know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_13 49:00

You don't want to end up with a road somebody to pile it up.

SPEAKER_02 49:03

We don't want a Roseanne Barr jumping up into Jerry's booth because we don't want that. Right. Okay. You don't know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_12 49:11

Right. So it doesn't have to specifically be a video of uh just uh how about a soundtrack.

SPEAKER_02 49:16

That could work too.

SPEAKER_12 49:17

Right. Or something that you where you can hear it.

SPEAKER_02 49:19

Something where we can hear you singing. Yeah. But yeah, if you if there's somebody out there that wants to sing, I mean, yes. I yeah, you know when is it I'm gonna is it Princess Emily? Emily comes and sings, I think, at the night at the Supernatural. Yep. Dude, she's does such a good job. And yeah, I I love that stuff. I mean, and I I grew up Jonathan's gonna call me all kinds of stuff here. I grew up doing choir and band and stuff in school. We know, but we can tell by the glasses. I know. And uh but it's it is when you when you hear somebody either playing an instrument or you know, like we have a guy do the guitar at uh Supernationals, he's done there a couple times. Yeah, it's always just a little extra for me. And I that's cool. Like I love good stuff. So is it salute to vets?

SPEAKER_10 50:02

There was somewhere I think it was salute to vets last year.

SPEAKER_02 50:05

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but yeah, that stuff's really neat.

SPEAKER_13 50:08

So uh modified features. Uh T Fitz, Trevor gets it done. Uh Owen Barnhill goes second, Griffin Taylor third, uh Braden Clayborne, fourth, Jake McBranny fifth. So put this in perspective winner, Camarillo, California. Second place, Milton, Florida, third place, Canapolis, North Carolina, fourth place, Santa Maria, California. A little bit of a spread there.

SPEAKER_12 50:37

Now, granted, because we had we ran into this at Stewart last night. We did the furthest toe. A lot of these guys are like, well, you shouldn't give it to the guy that's I'm like, we know Owen is living here. Right. Right. Okay. Yeah. But that says a lot about what them guys are trying to do out here. Oh, yeah. Like great job, guys. Like, because this state is the toughest state to race in. It's not a jab on any other state. No, just go to cars per capita in this area to come out here and all them guys have been kind of I mean, it's a nut kicker when you first come out here because it's tough to win a race. Yep. So great, great job to those drivers.

SPEAKER_13 51:22

Yeah, it's pretty cool. I mean, that's what I would love to do. Sit down with those guys, and I mean how many of the transplants, you know, you got Laney and you got like all these dudes that if you just step step back and took stock of like if we could go back ten years who all moved out here and pull quite a few.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

Pull Ricky, Ethan, like all those guys together in a room and just talk, right? It's it would probably blow your mind. And then there's and there's other ones, I mean there's other ones that are just trying, you know. You got De Reagan in a hobby stock, him and his mom are out here for the summer, like and that kid's not a slouch, like he's been running pretty hard. And yeah, it's cool to see, like it's cool to see that, and of course, I'm a hobby homer, you all know that, but like they're on an open trailer, they got the back of their truck full of parts, and you know, they're staying with what uh Chaz and I think they're staying with Chaz Baca. I'm pretty sure they are.

SPEAKER_12 52:23

They are staying with Chaz Baca from what I've seen on the vids.

SPEAKER_02 52:25

Yeah, so like it's just they're like here.

SPEAKER_13 52:28

Well, there's another one, Chaz.

SPEAKER_02 52:29

Yeah, Chaz is another one, right? Yeah, I mean it's it's pretty wild, so it's cool to see, and yeah, I think I think that would be a neat thing to do. Maybe this summer sometime we can throw them all together in a room.

SPEAKER_13 52:40

Alright, I'm gonna get through the rest of these results because we're almost at an hour already. We've done pretty good, haven't we?

SPEAKER_02 52:45

Yeah, 49.

SPEAKER_13 52:47

Uh Stockar feature one, Doug Smith picks up the win. David Smith goes second, Makiah Hodeball third, Austin Miners fourth, Tyler Pickett in fifth for that one. Uh the second feature, Devin Smith wins. Uh yeah, you're right. I think every every single Stock Arsmith won a race. Um They did, but I already looked. Yeah. Devin Smith, Cody Gustoff, uh Parker Slagle, Jimmy Gustin, and Blake Lehman, top five. Bob Cat goes six.

SPEAKER_02 53:22

Um Gustoff and Slagle. It's good runs for them. Oh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_12 53:27

Parker, I think he's guys, that second feature, like Jim, Jimmy and I were talking, it's like it was three, four wide for like the first eight, almost ten laps. Yeah, it was a banger. It's like, what do you do? You know, like what do you do? You know?

SPEAKER_13 53:46

Hammer down and hang on. Yeah. Right. Literally. Uh 56 hobby stocks checked in. A feature one. Justin Frederick gets a win. Corey Vanderwelt goes second. Daniel Davis was third. Good run for him. I was I was uh polling for him. Um Wayne Gifford fourth, Nathan De Ragan goes five in that one. That was a good race too. The second one was Eric Knutson again. So like I said, he had a great day. Yeah. Picked up both of the wins. Uh Alex Yeager goes second, Joe Wallenhop third, Tanner Jones fourth. Um plus ten for Tanner Jones. Uh Matt McDonald goes five.

SPEAKER_02 54:32

So good night of racing. If you wanted to see some laps, you had every opportunity. Yes. So for sure.

SPEAKER_13 54:41

A lot of racing and yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:44

Need to get you a cough button, don't we? Yeah, I mean Cody's uh we don't know what he's got. It better not be the Hanna virus, because I don't need that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 54:53

Uh wasn't good.

SPEAKER_02 54:55

No.

SPEAKER_13 54:56

Wasn't good. That's a Haley thought I was having a heart attack this morning, so that's not the way it's. Turns out I wasn't, so that's good. It's good. Just don't feel great. Um, okay. Well, let's go to a break here, and then when we come back, we'll start talking to Bruce. And uh and then yeah, all of our other stuff. We don't have an unboxing today that I've seen.

SPEAKER_02 55:18

We do not. Nope. Nope. So we have a pretty cool question of the week that literally popped off my head because I'm like, hey, we're meeting with Bruce. I should ask something about pictures. Right.

SPEAKER_13 55:28

Right. So that was cool. Cool. When we come back, we'll um talk to Bruce Badley from Motorsports Photography. Stay tuned. You are watching Watermelon Wood Chip. We'll be right back.

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SPEAKER_13 56:45

Welcome back, RaceFans. Watermelons and wood chips presented by Central Iowa Diesel Performance and got through all the results and uh our recap of I mean and what was a long night.

SPEAKER_02 56:57

It was a long night. Productive.

SPEAKER_13 57:00

Yeah. Yep. Um but no, we want to get to our guests with with Bruce, and uh, you know, I get a chance to talk to Bruce every Saturday down in the infield and we'll catch up on Kellen and Cooper's wrestling or his granddaughter's wrestling and and her softball and all the things, but um Bruce, it's it's cool that you decided to come on here with us and we appreciate it. Well I'm glad to be here.

SPEAKER_02 57:30

So of everybody in the room, how long have you known Bruce?

SPEAKER_12 57:35

Wait a minute, wait a minute. It should be Bruce, how long have you known these guys?

SPEAKER_02 57:40

I wanted to ask you guys to see what you remembered, then I was gonna ask him.

SPEAKER_09 57:44

Well, since you two have been running around the racetrack, is uh because my son even brought it up this last weekend about you know running around the grandstands with you guys. Mm-hmm. You know, so long time. Been been doing this a long time.

SPEAKER_02 57:58

Yeah, uh I got to know you at Stuart. You guys used to set up a table and had the pictures and had the books, and I'd go up there and thumb through them, and I just thought it was the coolest thing in the world. I could spend a buck and get a picture of me out in a race, you know, on the racetrack. And I and I remember thinking, you take a picture of me, and I run at the back. Like I I'm not up front, and it it never really I was like, well, they just take pictures of everybody. I mean, you know, didn't really think much of it. But there's a damn art to it. Like everything you're doing, you you're you're catching a guy that's going through a corner at between forty-five and ninety mile an hour sometimes, depending on what class they're in. And you're not just slinging the camera and taking it like there's a whole art to what you're doing.

SPEAKER_09 58:48

Well yeah, learn to pan. I mean, that's the big one, you know, and and uh don't stop when you shoot. Yeah. If you stop, you're usually gonna get a get a little bit of a fuzzy shot. But no, you know, it's been a it's been a lot of years of, you know, of doing this, and and that was a lot of the enjoyment early on was the kids that would come up and buy a couple pictures every week and and then you'd have the drivers that were like uh come up and look, and it's like you didn't get me last week. You know, you know, so you really you do try to take something of everybody every every night.

SPEAKER_05 59:22

Sure.

SPEAKER_09 59:22

Um that way they've got something in there. And then of course you learn the guys that want multiple shots every week, and you know, you take care of that too.

SPEAKER_12 59:31

So I remember going to the souvenir stand and grandma, you know, always buying I like there's a box at my grandma logs with just Bruce's pictures in it, basically. You know, all memories. Yes, like um God, Bruce. I mean, when did you get started into racing? Is that all you started with? Or like right, like did you go to college for this, or did you just pick it up, or how'd you get started?

SPEAKER_09 1:00:01

Um, I guess my love of photography came when it was shortly after my dad probably had passed away and I grabbed his camera. Well, kind of one of the old pay Pentax K1000s, I believe, you know, and and that's where I started. Whatever that means. That's the brand that's a brand of camera. Okay, it's what it's what Dean Dean Malone used up till I persuaded him to think about using my one of my digital cameras. Um so I was good. We were taking pictures, you know, go on a little trip or something. So I'd always had the camera with me, and then one day I decided to stick my finger in the shutter to see how things work. Well, that didn't work too well. And uh kind of broke it. And mom ended up buying me another camera. Um but at that point in time, that's probably what kept me involved in things. Um then in junior high I found the dark room in the in the school and and the instructor that kind of had the key just kind of let me have that was my place. You know, it was after my dad had passed, and and so I'd spend hours. Every every time I could have a free hour, I'd go in and I'd mess around. I'd take old negatives in and you know, color negatives and and and print and and do things like that, and I'd learn to develop my own film, and so that's that was fun. Um then we lost everything we had at one point. Um I don't know, I don't really know all the issues, but it you know, some money things and and everything got auctioned off. Well I had a good friend of mine that probably kept me in in photography then. They listed my gear as part of the auction. He goes up and tells one of the guys that hey, that's my buddy's camera. And he says, What camera and hands in my bag? Well who knows if I would have ever picked up another camera.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:58

Sure.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:59

Right. So then it evolved into high school. Um I started helping out with some friends on a race car and you know, started chasing them and and going around. I always took the camera with me. We'd go to Jefferson, we'd Hazard County. Race Marshtown all the time, and um once in a while at Boone. So they decided to promote races. I just graduated high school, 83, 1983. We were still going to parties with our dads then. So I was five. Everybody got invited to a group meeting, all everybody that was ever around the race car, and uh it was like, well, we're here's what we're gonna do, and and we need some help. So instantly it was like, you know, you can be the photographer. So but you're gonna take take ticket money too, sell tickets at the beginning of the night. So I I'd sell tickets for an hour and a half or so, and then I'd go grab my camera and start taking pictures. Well, that's where I met Dean Malone. And uh boy, talk about a wealth of information. I learned more from that guy on how to work taking photos at a racetrack, what to do after the fact. You know, it was a whole process, you know, learning curve, and uh and it was good. I mean I I truly enjoyed it, you know, and and so that that was where you know I got my start as a track photographer was at Marshtown Speedway in 1983. Wow Wow. Who was the promoter then? Barry Neiss and Steve Prisky. See, well I don't know who those guys are. I bet your dad does. Right. But it was still ran by the Fairboard or still a fair fairboard track, yeah. And they'd ran it from the from the fairboard and and and run their their shows and believe it's still done that way today.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:02

So you get into you get in you get your foot into Marshalltown. So you're 18 years old at this time, 19. Graduating. When when then did you decide like because this is what you do for a living, correct? Is take photos. Oh no. I got a I I have nine to five. Nine to five, too? Okay. See, I thought it was just a photo thing. So you do this, plus go to your regular job and do all this stuff. Like explain like the negatives. You started talking about the negatives, like people that don't know what, like how did that transition from that to what you do now?

SPEAKER_09 1:04:40

Probably about 2004, I believe. Um, before it was the negative thing, you know, so you'd go have your pictures developed and you'd have twin prints of everything. So usually we'd bring a set to the stands and then we'd have a set over in the pit area as well, and or I'd run around and actually pedal pictures, you know, and go visit with everybody, which that changed a whole lot with the way it is done today. And they didn't have numbers or anything on the photos. Well I learned real quick, you know, I had to develop a numbering system. So if somebody said I need a another print of this or an eight by ten, you had to be able to have them flip the picture over and tell you what to what to get. Oh. So we'd have little numbering parties that after we get film developed and and have pictures scattered because the ink wouldn't dry and so they'd be scattered all over tables in the house and and we get them stuffed into books then. You know, it was a process. And everybody in the family really helped. You know, the kids helped, my wife helped, and you know, and they've been very supportive all along as well. And of course they had I guess, you know, they let me follow my dream because it turned into a lot more than one racetrack and and then again still work a normal job as well. And and I just went I'm thirty three years now at Mobile. Millwork, so being able to do that and and and manage this at the same time. It's been kind of a been kind of a ride. Yeah.

unknown 1:06:06

Wow.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:07

I would say so.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:08

It's crazy. How many tracks were you doing then? So you get into Marstown. How long did it take you to get into Boone? Because you've been the number one photographer at Boone Speedway.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:17

For a long time. My whole life. So the next track that that that we got involved with, and that was because Barry and Steve decided to take on Webster City as well. So the crew at Webster City would come down to Marshalltown. Um and then our crew would all go up to Webster City the next night. And so we just kind of a tag team effort to make it all work. And so a lot of great people, you know. That's that's the other beauty of this is you know, the amount of people you meet, the racers that you meet, you know, it becomes big family. And uh so we did that for a few years, and then um I had uh another promoter ask me about coming to uh Greenbelt Speedway, Allerhammer. He I think I think he'd taken over Webster City and I'd kind of had left that and and uh maybe I went once in a while, but but he hollered at me and said, Hey, I need photographer at up in Eldora and and so so we we started doing that as well. And uh then uh I hate to say I got my maybe got my toes stepped on a little bit at Marshalltown at one point and uh decided, okay, I needed to make a change. And so the fairgrounds became the the track. And uh did that for uh uh several years. There was you know so many cars down there that you know Dean Malone also said, he says, I I need somebody to help down here, you know. So he says, Come on down. And uh but then we'd moved to the Des Moines area as well, so um became a little bit of a distance through running back and forth to Marshalltown. But it wasn't too long, and I think IMCA was the one that brought it up to say, or Hawkeye Racing News, maybe even at the time. We did have a lot of papers back then, but said, hey, we really need somebody up at Marshalltown. So I said, Okay, I'll go back up. Got another friend of ours uh to start shooting pictures, so I kind of gave him the little bit of the go-round of how to how do we deal with a racetrack and what what to do. Well, he came down and started shooting Des Moines for me and we did Marshalltown. Well, we're we're four racetracks a week, you know. Then then pretty soon I get uh asked to go to Stuart Speedway. So we did Stuart Speedway for a number of years, and uh with that we uh at one point I got uh had a discussion with uh Lottie and and uh and I believe Jeff was probably part of that as well, and another good friend of mine, Chuck, that worked at the track at the time, um come together and said, Hey, we're gonna try something different with t-shirts, you know. So I started dragging t-shirts around as well, but they wanted me to go to Mason City as well. Oh boy, oh geez. So needless to say, got Keith to do Marshalltown and Keith came out to Stuart Speedway and finished, you know, did things out there for us, and and we went to Mason City. So and I'm trying to think somewhere in that realm of things, we did come over to Boone and in 1993 was where I started at Boone. Um came over for supernationals, you know. I got the wind of this this big race and says you ought to come over here and and and see see this thing. And you know, kind of fell in love with that. Yeah. I mean, it just is something else to see that track and transform. You know, it's not Boone Speedway anymore when it's you know supernationals, it's supernationals. And uh so again, we're up to five racetracks a week. Needless to say, numbering all those photos.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:08

Right, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:10

Holy moly. You know, and so we we did that for a number of years. I you know, never had a weekend. I mean, every weekend I had was spent at a racetrack. Go back to work to relax? Kinda sorta. Yeah, yeah, yeah, kinda sorta. Right. Um so we did that again, number of years, uh, you know, that we were doing, you know, the five, you know, and and then and I think uh Lottie quit promoting it at Mason City, which then brought us to just the four tracks. And then I s then I got thinking of that, you know, I'm doing a lot of work here, you know, for my other photographer. I said, why don't you just kind of go out on your own and you do everything, you know, you get y all the benefits of it, you know. So we he did that for a number of years and we just got down to where we were just doing, you know, Marshalltown and Boone. And but uh as time goes on, it you know, and things change. You know, like I said, 2004 I believe is when I used to get a digital camera for half the weekend and I think I was still going to Stewart at that time too a little bit and and uh I get a digital camera to play with for half the weekend and not ha half of it was on film, half of it was was on digital, and I kinda started liking the the aspect of uh being my own processor basically and learning learning that curve and and not having somebody else do all my work for me. And uh so that was neat, you know. I mean it was it was a big change. It was a big change of how we did things at the racetrack as well. My wife was always saying she's just we gotta figure out how to do pictures because she says kids will expect pictures the next week, you know, and it's like we'll go to contact sheets and the kids will figure us out. You know, they'll know they can come pick up their pictures and they can pick out something else for the following week. And and it really did work well. Um so we did that again. You know, that went well for quite a few years and and uh but digital's changed things a lot, you know. I mean, you you all can attest to that. I mean, just the videos coming into play where somebody will do some video and and put that out there as well. And but uh it's been a fun ride. Really, really has been a fun ride. I've like to say, seen a lot of people win first first features, you know, and that excitement and the and the joy, you know, like we talked you talked about that earlier about not getting interviewed, you know. That's a big deal for a first timer. You're getting interviewed, you're getting your picture taken, you know. Right. And you know, I I tell everybody you're gonna follow that up pretty quick with another one, you know, and generally happens. Well, and you're the sticker guy.

SPEAKER_12 1:12:55

Yeah, okay. Yeah. We talk about the stickers, and like there for a couple years, the stickers were kind of shitty, and we walked our cars a lot. And so I'm always telling Bruce, I'm like, hey, bud, you think I nope. I get so many stickers, you know, and he's got this little like it's like a little holster or whatever. I think it's for one of his camera batteries or whatever, but that's where they're at. Yep. I was always thinking, I'm like, sneak up and get them, weren't you?

SPEAKER_11 1:13:23

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:13:24

Like I'm like thinking, you know, Bruce, you're you're busy a lot of the time. Like I could just, you know, pull the old Tyler Pickett on you and pickpocket you.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:33

You know, they they made a mistake and and and missed a process of a lamination, you know, on those. And you know, because that was one of the first times when guys were talking talking about them getting just coming right off, you know, they just fall apart. But there again, you know, the stickers are are limited, you know. So, you know, but that is, you know, and I as soon as they started doing that sticker, I kind of mentioned, and I don't you remember who we talked, you know, at the track, and I said, hey, you know, I ought to be the one to have have this the feature wind stickers. You know, you guys can do the the heat race wind stickers, but give me those and and I'll hand them to them. That way I'll take care of it right there, you know. And there again, the guys learn to expect it. Yep. You know, they they know they're getting a sticker as soon as and a lot of times you'll see them wipe off the top of the car right now, and they'll put that sticker right on the car. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:31

That's still that sticker, that sticker means more than the 400.

SPEAKER_09 1:14:35

I'm just telling you.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:36

Right.

SPEAKER_09 1:14:37

I think part of that led from you know, for years, Hawkeye Racing News had stickers as well. And that was well before AMCA came out with with their feature win sticker. So, you know, the guys would get two. And uh, so I you know, they were already used to me giving a sticker out for a win. Well, now I now I was able to give out the AMCA sticker as well. So and there are some guys that don't do not change hoods or not hoods, but the the roof top the the roof or or the deck lid, you know, inside.

SPEAKER_13 1:15:12

I've seen a lot of the deck lid uh stock car hobby stock guys with the same deck lid, and there's just it's just coated with stickers.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:18

Yeah, Eric Knutson, yeah, he's running out of space. Right. You know, it it's just full, yeah. And and then even this last weekend, you know, I go to hand a sticker and and and gosh, for the life of me, I can't remember who it was, but he says, go ahead and put that on. Oh, he wanted you to put it on. Yeah. That's one of the first times I'd gotten to do that. That's pretty neat. You know, I got to decide where it where it was going to go on top of the roof.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:42

And and well, Jonathan talks about how many one in seven ever win a feature.

SPEAKER_12 1:15:48

One in seven, one in every seven drivers wins a feature.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:51

And then one in every twenty twenty wins a feature. But that's a special moment. I mean It is. I think about you've had a lot of wins. Yep. I had seven. Like I I remember each one of them. Right. I remember the whole process. I remember the getting to see Bill and take the pictures and get the sticker and the whole thing. And they didn't do interviews then. Correct. Like I did not they did not, just didn't. And it was just something, you know, that to go through the process because to me the excitement was okay, we're going back to the pit, we're gonna have a couple beers, then we're going to the front stretch, and I get a C Bruce. Like it was the whole thing, and it the excitement didn't end until we left. Like um, and I d and I hate that sometimes that weather sucks, you know. I it just sucks. And it and then you see, and we're up against eight hours of racing, and yeah, we gotta cut stuff.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:47

So And there you go. You you know, no different than Saturday night. If you were to stop and do the interview, do the victory lane, and maybe get a lap or two of the cars before you know we're done there. Well, now times that times how many features did we have? A lot right now now what time are we getting out of there? Oh, it adds an hour or better to the show. So it would have been well after two o'clock before we would have left the left the track that night. You know, maybe maybe an idea. Right.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:16

But maybe an idea for if this happens in the future. Um, you know, like usually they're the caution is long enough to, you know, but you know, your guys' cameras just stationed are up on top, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:32

Yeah, we only got one for the regular season, so it's uh Well, maybe maybe uh Black Dirt Entertainment might just have to get their rig out there and Victory Lane.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:42

Well, I'm just in a situation like that because I just like Bruce said, I just really sucks that we didn't get to hear Joe talk about Well, I mean, man, I don't know who it was, but who was pressuring him.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:56

Um runs second in that because I thought they were gonna run him down at the time. I'm just Willie Kirk. Willie Kirk, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:18:03

You know, and then they got him to lap traffic, and it's like Willie's good. Willie is good. And so to you know, I understand the circumstance. I'm not talking shit. I'm just saying it just like, man, I I really because I remember my first one, you know, and it was like, I mean, it was like a 20-minute interview because I was pumped up. And I had to thank all the sponsors, and I thank the grasshoppers and the rabbits and all the shit at the speedway that night and everything. But I mean, just maybe it's a thing where it's like, you know, he can he's already down there, you know, they're gonna be in the tech area, like just go over there and give them a quick one, quick one, or you know, or or maybe in a situation where it is the first-time winner, you you know, maybe you just do that and have a Johnny on the spot because we've got it here available, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:52

But um, so you said 2004 he switched to digital. That actually reminded me of something. You said your buddy Chuck. Are you talking Chuck Stowe? Chuck Stowe. So I called Bruce. Chuck Stow. I called Bruce in probably mid summer 2004, and I said, Hey, I'm doing something here October 1st. I'm getting married. How would you like to take some pictures? And he said, Yeah, absolutely. And I don't know, it was probably a month, maybe three weeks later, hey, we're gonna be out of town, but my buddy Chuck takes some pretty good pictures. So, Chuck Stowe, he was our wedding photographer for Bruce.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:27

So Well, we did a number of weddings and things. I mean, it there again. So, away from the racing, pretty soon you start getting those questions asked. You always take pictures out here. We got a senior coming up. Can you do senior pictures? Well, I I started getting involved in a little bit of that. A few weddings here and there. I hate to think how many different weddings I've done over the years. Um but so Chuck was my second shooter for most of you know, from the time he's he moved up this way. Um we became very good friends and and uh so second shooter, you know, we do the weddings together and and uh you know, and and I you know, there again, like you say, whatever happened I it was wasn't gonna be available and and you know, obviously Chuck was and and uh you know and very capable and uh and uh you know so super nice guy. And Chuck shoots down at Knoxville weekly, uh been down there a number of years, but he's also worked at the Boon Speedway, you know, through his career. He's uh done a number of things in racing throughout.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:42

Um started out and talk about a guy that can tell a story.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:45

Yes, yep. Started out racing started out racing, yeah, you know, as well. So I mean he's Missouri, I think. Yeah. Yep. So he's done a number of things, you know, but but always been involved around racing. Yep. Really a good friend too.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:59

So yep, got to see him a few times uh when I worked at the State Fair Speedway there, and he was always around and then with the dirt trucks and and all that, and he kind of showed me a few things on the raceaver side of things because he would run for them. And we were I was kind of starting to get involved in that at Stewart and then also then at the fairgrounds, and yeah, Chuck's a good dude. And he uh I just remember I can remember standing, we were getting ready to do the cake, and Angie looked at me and she goes, If you smash that in my face, we were getting annulled and like it wasn't gonna happen. And Chuck was standing there with the camera and he's like, Don't do it. So I didn't. But but yeah. Yep. Um what stands out now? Are you a lot like me where somebody will come to me and go, Oh man, how were the races last night? I have no idea. Like you get to see everything, but do you don't see everything?

SPEAKER_09 1:21:55

You know, if it wasn't for my race pass, I'd have you know when I have to add a name to some of the pictures, you know, for spelling or some of that. You know, I don't have an old Hawkeye to go back to anymore. But uh there are a number of times, even later in the evening, somebody'll say, Well, who won the who won this race? It's like, let me think a minute. Oh gosh, I cannot uh man, I I can't remember right now. I mean I I think it's just you're so involved with what's going on that it you know, right at that time you you just go blank. And but you know, the races, gosh, what races we've had. I mean there have been awesome racing at Boone, and that's part of why I just love that track. You know, the racing at Supernational is always awesome, you know, except for when it gets a little wet and we have to wait around for hours to do things. But yeah. But uh but you know, the that track puts on some of the best racing around, you know, and and Marshalltown, I love Marshalltown as well. I mean it's a you know, it's kind of where I got my start and it and and uh and it's a you know got a lot of good racing that happens there as well. Some of the other tracks once in a while, maybe not so much, but but there again, every track has their their key players, you know, that that come up through and or they decide to move up from one class into the next, you know, which is always fun to see that happen as well. Um and I'm a guy that one, I'd like to see a color scheme change a little bit off and on. Yeah. Um that way you can kind of start to tell the difference between the years. Um because there are some that that absolutely never change, you know. Yep. Um but uh but as a photographer, that's why I like to see I like to see some of that change.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:52

Sure. Is there any anything particular that you've shot over your career that just stands out? Like the one picture or one finish or one something?

SPEAKER_09 1:24:03

Oh, probably one of my favorite shots is is the first cover I had gotten on uh magazine. Oh yeah. And that was uh four or five cars coming out of turn two. Stacked up from back before the fence went up where you could shoot out of the beer garden. That was used to be one of my favorite spots to shoot because it took a while to get where somebody was shooting next to the racetrack, you know. Um one of the first times that I had done that was out off of turn four and and uh somebody got on the headset that night and said You hang on, you guys got a guy standing up there in four, you know? And I don't remember who said it, but oh it's just Bruce. It's like, okay, I'm good. Yep. Um and then of course from that people follow and kind of go to the same spots and do some of the same things. And um the one thing I won't do is you won't see me get on a knee down in the in the infield. I I've always got a plan, I always have an out. Oh don't plant yourself. You know, I you know, I've only ever been uh hit one time and and that was a car that went around the track slow and didn't think anything about I'm still shooting turn turn two and and uh pretty soon I have the back my leg taken out from me just a little bit. But the car didn't have any steering. He'd come in right where I was standing and just grazed my calf. Oh man calf ain't been right since either. But but but that but that's the only time. The only had another close one and um I'm gonna I'm gonna think it was supernational sometime. It's back in the day when the racing through the infield was still happening. Oh I was just gonna ask about that too. And I had a stock, I had a stock car come off the track, and and I had enough time to take one step. One step over, and then and I he never lifted. Never and I brought it up a little bit later, a few months later, and and oh really. Yeah, I said, yeah, it was close. But and by the way, that that rule was not made for me, period. You know, that was not made for me.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:22

That's what I wanted to ask you about.

SPEAKER_12 1:26:23

If you knew who it was made for. I was literally just gonna say, and two weeks later that's when the new rule came out.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:29

One of our track workers, um Wayne was his name, um, was standing on his four-wheeler down in three and four. And somebody came in and got the four-wheeler and knocked him off. So at that point, that's that's when that that rule was was made, you know, that you have to come to that complete stop. And you know, because there are it's not just a photographer. I mean, you've got track workers and you've got sometimes you've got other people down in the infield, and and you know, so racing's racing's for the racetrack.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:00

Yep. Correct, you know, 100%.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:03

Well, I tell you what. So it didn't bother me at all when that rule got made. Right.

SPEAKER_12 1:27:07

The the swell that they have dug down in turn two there in the middle. I don't know if any I mean, I know you guys haven't hit it, but I've hit that thing a couple times wide open. Not good. Okay. Get your attention. Your Baja and shot. Yep. Yep. So it's like, and so many people they say that over the intercom during the driver's meeting. Like, and people still get called for it all the time. Yes, they do. They do. It's he the moment, but also too, your life's over. You run somebody over down there. Right. I mean, mentally for for you. You kill somebody down there, yeah. Not good.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:41

You know how many times though I've seen a guy go through the light poles, stop, take off. It's almost inevitable. They'll either get a caution or eventually like something comes back karma. You know what I mean? They're like you followed the rules, they go out and some and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes they lose a lap and it is what it is. But Much rather see everybody be able to go home at the end of the night.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:02

Yeah. Correct. So back in the day, here's another one. Um Channel 5 used to come up and and do a a weekly show of a racing report. Yeah. So they were a boon quite quite often. And and so I I made clips there a time or two. Really? That's great. But but it was also back in a time when our gear wasn't the best. You know, I mean, you had shorter lenses, and you literally I'd stand five to ten feet off the racetrack. So, you know, I'd have my poles, I knew where my pole was, that I could get behind if I needed to. So that leads into somebody got into the infield and started spinning around, and it was, watch out, Bruce. And it it was funny, but but it but it was close at the same time, you know. But yeah, it was but there again, today we have lenses that you know and and and the digital equipment is so much better. There were I can shoot from the center of the track and still really capture stuff, you know, on the track, you know, and and and make it work for me. Um now do I do that? No, I still have my spots. Um, but I try to mix up where those spots are as well, so I don't have this same thing all the time. Hey, bud, you're watching us, we're watching you. And I've never where you're at. I've heard that before. And and not speaking of that, somebody'll come and say, I know you got a shot of me last week. I saw the flash. Yep. I I remember that.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:37

I remembered it, Stuart, going through one and two, and I saw the flash, and I'm like, I gotta buy that picture. But but it's you should be paying attention to where you're driving.

SPEAKER_12 1:29:45

No wonder we're wrecking shit.

SPEAKER_13 1:29:47

But if you ever talk to a claim somebody anyway, that's right.

SPEAKER_09 1:29:50

They hardly ever know that that flash even was there. You know, you everybody always says, Don't don't you blind the guys? It's like, no. No. Right. I said they're so focused on what they're doing on the racetrack that they're not gonna see it. Yep. They may see a flash, right, but it doesn't it doesn't bother them. And uh and of course, some people will tell you that they start seeing all the flashes, they know the they're get somebody's coming up and catching them. True as well. True. You know, they you start you know, bang, bang, bang, you got four or five guys maybe shooting the same action, they know second place is right on 'em. You know, so something's about to happen.

SPEAKER_12 1:30:29

So one of my favorite stuff is like when you guys all go to capture the the checkered flags of supernationals and it like lights up. Yeah. There's so much flash from everyone that's in there that it's like, somebody turn the light on over the flag stand. Uh-huh. You know, like that's how bright it looks.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:48

So here's a little known from my perspective. I'm typically neck deep in computer stuff and doing whatever, and I'll look up, and it's like instead of looking at the flagstand or up at the scoreboard to see how many laps are left, I'll look out, and if I see Bruce starting to walk, yeah, we're getting close. I see a flash. He always does a flash on the white flag lap, and I think it's 10.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:11

Not all the time.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:12

But I I that flash, I'm like, well, I gotta pay attention because we're about done. Like, it's just a just another little thing. Now, what's the flash for? Why do you gotta do that?

SPEAKER_09 1:31:22

Stops action and it lights up different parts of the race car. I like to see the driver. Yeah. I like to see in the wheel wells a little bit, you know, get that definition. Wait, who are you selling information to with these wheelchairs?

SPEAKER_13 1:31:39

Especially the modified guy. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:42

I mean, come on, hold on here, Bruce. I know somebody's paid you for a picture or two.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:46

But to me, can you shoot natural light all night long? Sure, you can. I don't like the grainy stuff. I I'm still not up to that equipment that you know is loses a lot of that grainy look. Um that takes me back to my film days when 800 was the was the top you could go, but it was still a little bit grainy when you print. Um I like to put light on a car. I just you know, now do I I vary that once in a while. Sometimes I've got a lot of light that I dump, and then there's times where I where maybe I don't, so it doesn't carry through. Um but it's neat when somebody says, I want that picture because I'm standing up there on the catwalk. You know, that because they know right where they're standing and they know they're in that shot with that particular race car. Right.

SPEAKER_12 1:32:36

I like the light. Go ahead, Cody.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:38

No, I was gonna say there's more times, you know, I think about this, more times than I, you know, realize when you'll get I'll see you walk over, right, and they're coming down a four to get to the checkers, and it's like, oh, there's a lap car that you can't even see the car that went.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:53

That happened Saturday night.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:54

I know, and that's where I brought it up because I was like, that happened, that happened on Saturday, and then and like I think about that, it's just gotta be my ADD brain, a part of that thing, because it's like for whatever reason I get fixated on that. Like, how's this picture gonna look? And then he pass the lap car.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:14

Now, there is a time when the lap car is on the wall and the winner comes in underneath, and it still makes it look like it was heck of a finish, right? You know, ten years later, nobody knows how that really happened.

SPEAKER_12 1:33:26

But I have a picture in my shop right now that Bruce took of my first Supernational's qualifier win and Bopartane. I'm on the outside, and the only thing you can see on like people come to my shop and they're like, Why do you have a picture of the 75? Because it's just a white and blue 75.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:46

And I'm like, Well, if you look a little bit closer, I'm about this much further ahead of that sound, but see the white or the red nose right there?

SPEAKER_12 1:33:55

Like, but it's just like those are the shit the moments, you know, in the in the raw emotion when like when I got out of the car, and I'm like, I or like the raw emotions that Dave Smith and I had this weekend. True.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:10

There there could be some of those pictures.

SPEAKER_12 1:34:12

I think there was probably about 50 or 60 picture snaps between the four photographers when that was going on because we could see some shit going on in the background. Cody looked like, like I said, he was gonna call the cops. So I seen some of those photos, and I'm like, oh, this is great.

SPEAKER_09 1:34:28

So I've got another interesting photo that I shot, and it was um one of the Watsons um caught on fire, sitting up, you know, got hit pretty hard. Um I guess maybe I don't I'm not positive if he rolled or not, but but I'm shooting that shot from down below and and I've got a heart, you know. I there's a few things that'll never happen, you know, and if somebody gets hurt seriously, nobody's ever gonna see him. For a while, I'm shooting this the flames and things, and the guy's putting this putting the car out, putting that flame out and I pretty soon realized that I haven't seen the bell on the helmet move. At that point I know he's passed out. You know, I mean he's out. And I quit shooting. I mean I could have kept continued, but but at that point I stopped. You know, guys come in, pulled him out of the car, you know, and and then things are okay. You know? So then I'm I'm I'm okay then with that, you know. And then it gets posted on the somebody videotaped it and taped it and sent it into one of the stations, and uh they made it sound like it was a whole lot worse. Well the flames look a whole lot worse from that angle than what I had, you know, but I I still had my I personally that's again one of my best shots because of all the flame and and and things. And that made a cover of Speed Reillustrated. So you know the first one's always the big one there.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:03

Sure.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:03

But every time you can get one, that's a heck of a pat on the back.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:06

How many how many covers have you made?

SPEAKER_09 1:36:09

Oh, I've probably got ten or fifteen now. Wow. That's awesome. That is awesome. And that's tough. In somebody's book about IMC has a little bit about IMC. I've got some shots there, you know, in that. Um, and and countless newspaper things, you know, from from a weekly newspaper that wants to do something on the racetrack to the Hawkeye racing news, dirt cheap racing news, mid-states racing news. You know, when that went away, you know, the publication scenario, that just broke my heart. It was like, what are we gonna do? We don't have anybody to shoot for anymore. You know, thank goodness we still have a couple magazines, you know, that can be that are publishing photos, you know, where you can pick up something and actually look through.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:00

Right.

SPEAKER_09 1:37:00

Did I ever read everything? No. Right. But I'm always looking through to see, okay, what would they use this week? You know, and and that that's always a big pat on the back as well, that you know, your stuff is worthy of getting into that publication, regardless of whether it's a paper or whether it's in the you know, middle of the magazine, or you start looking at is it a small print or is it three-quarters of a page or you know, something of that nature, too.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:28

Let's be for real, I we talk about all the time back in the there only was the Hawkeye newspaper there for a long time.

SPEAKER_09 1:37:33

For a long time.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:34

So when that was the first thing I did is I'm not a great reader, but I'm a good picture looker. Go in and look at all the pictures right away.

SPEAKER_09 1:37:43

So I'm just a young guy back in the day, and I knew about Hawkeye Race News. We were, I think at the time, even, I think we were selling it in our in our stands. Oh, yeah, I remember when you guys did that too. And uh Keith Kanak from my MCA was was there one night and and and I said something to Dean. I said, You got your name in the in the credits for being a contributing photographer. I said, Who do you suppose I need to talk to about that? He says, Keith's here tonight. Go talk to him. So I walked over and talked to Keith a little bit and said, Hey, I've been track photographer here now for a couple years. I said, I'd like to see if I can't get my name in that contributing. I said, you know, using my pictures every week. And he says, You got a business card? By golly, it was in the next week, and I was in that as a contributing photographer until that mag until that paper stopped being published. Even through the change of ownership and and after Keith had passed, and you know, and you know, that that makes you feel like you're really part of that team at that point. You know, you you're you're one you're one of the guys, you know, and and and that was always a big pat on the back as well.

SPEAKER_12 1:38:56

Yeah, absolutely. That's I'm saying, I mean, we uh all the write-ups and stuff, like you know, Dan, he's always rolling around and taking a few shots and doing his deal, and to see that stuff in those magazines, and even if you get chosen, and I don't any driver I think can relate to this, even the the photographers that are taking those in the action moments, uh, it's just like that's kind of like our trophy.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:27

Right, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's our win for the for you know for an event too. And um, so yeah, there it's it's pretty sweet.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:36

I think everybody involved, whether you're working, racing, working on cars, whatever, there's a way for you to win in a night. Yep. And it it's what we all keep going back for, you know.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:50

Every once in a while I get asked if you know, is do you ever want to drive? And it's like, no, not really. You know, I my gear, my can't camera gear's expensive enough. I don't want to have to fund a race car too. There's drivers right here, boys. But I I can say I actually got to do a race. We did a uh media race one time at Boone. Really? Yeah. So there was about five of us, I think, at the time that that were out on the track at the same time in hobby stocks.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:40:20

Couldn't couldn't tell you. I might have been in in bow hunters. I don't I'm I'm not positive, but uh, but uh well we're gonna have a two-seater car at some point.

SPEAKER_12 1:40:28

So if you want to go for a race, there you go. I'm your man. There you go.

SPEAKER_09 1:40:32

Okay, put me put me on that list because every time we've gone to a big race, you know what, and and you got an opportunity, it's like, yeah, I'd love to do that.

SPEAKER_12 1:40:39

Yes, I've I've I've talked to Kevin Opine. And Kevin Opine basically was like, hey, look, I've only got a couple of things to do this year with the two-seater car. And I'm like, well, I mean, I do know these guys, but we gotta we gotta run it through the the uh the company uh what am I trying to say here? Chain of commands. Chain of commands. Chain of commands.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:05

There you go.

SPEAKER_13 1:41:06

Told you guys I wasn't that great of a reader. Uh great picture looker. Great picture looker.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:12

Man, I mean just telling I think we have the title of of the show. I'm pretty sure that's what Garrett was messaging us about.

SPEAKER_12 1:41:20

But you know, um if we can get that deal to come to the speedway and make some rips and rip some laps with just like I think we do some random, you know, you get Jimmy Gustin in there, you get Jake McBurnie, you get myself, or even Jay Notaboom, or you know, Mikey Smith, any of the Smiths. They probably have a two-seater car.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:41

They probably have multiple two-seater cars.

SPEAKER_12 1:41:44

Right, but I think I think that would really hype up. And of course, you know, we gotta do it to be able to cover the cost of the of of the fuel and the and the stuff like that, which uh and of course the racetrack's gotta put a little bit in there to be able to cover the I'm sure there's some insurance thing. Maybe it's not, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:04

I'd have to look at how that would work.

SPEAKER_12 1:42:05

You know what I mean? Like I know that they've done that a ton of places like they do it at Eldora, you know, in a late model, and uh Kevin usually does it at uh Kusleuth County speedbuster.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:17

Uh so I just think sell like raffle tickets. I don't know.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:21

Or how do they do that? I think that's I think that's how it's done most of the time. Okay. It's through a raffle.

SPEAKER_12 1:42:26

Yeah, and I think it's like fifty bucks or twenty-five bucks or something, and then they take half of it goes to Kevin, and I think the other half they either donate it or it goes to the track.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:36

I mean, you think about like a crowd like we had Saturday night, you get that opportunity. It could be pretty big, you know, a couple chances, a couple times of going out and you know, following farm sessions or what whatever it would be. Right.

SPEAKER_12 1:42:49

And I I I yeah, I think so too. And how they do it up there at Algona um that I've seen is you know, he just kind of sacks back a little bit and they take off. He makes two laps under green, and then and I mean, unless he's like really pulling and catching them, then he'll make a take an extra just because he's feeling because Kevin's feeling good about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:09

Oh, and you know Jonathan's gonna give an extra lap.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:12

Oh yeah, extra lap. I start catching the field and it's close, I'm taking another one just so you guys are like, what's he doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:43:18

Uh-huh. I just can't wait for us to mount the camera in there so we can see the action and see the person's reaction while they're in there. It's gonna be a funny fun.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:27

Oh yeah. Right. Definitely. Especially when you like uh like last night I kind of housed the front stretch wall at Stuart.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:35

I mean, when you're like there is there is something about, and you probably know what this feeling's like, is when you scrape it, when you jimmy it, you don't hurt your car, you don't do anything to your momentum or whatever, but when you do that and you're going through the corner, you're like, yeah, I just I just sent some sparks. Like I'm not gonna do that again this next time.

SPEAKER_09 1:43:57

Yeah. I also uh one time I don't know whether I just it said something, it'd be nice to try this out. And Cliff says, Cliff Barber, he goes, Go ahead and get in it. Oh boy. So I got to hot la do hot laps a couple times in in the old four car. Really? In his old dwarf cars? Yes. That's back in the dwarf car days. That's that does date it a little bit, but I'll bet that was fun. But uh did that out at Stuart. I did it two different times.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:24

I bet that was fun.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:25

It was fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:26

I guarantee you somebody in the crowd went, man, Cliff looks slow tonight.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:30

The first time, uh most definitely the second time I was at least being able to follow some of the guys. I got a little got a little bit more accustomed to it, but it but uh but it was fun. Hey, you got to wheel the four car, that thing was uh legendary.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:44

That was uh that was a rocket back in the day. Yes, it was. Yeah. Well I don't want to talk about this, but you came up to the VIP window a couple weeks ago and gave me some news. Oh, I did.

SPEAKER_13 1:44:57

Are we making an official announcement?

SPEAKER_02 1:44:58

Well, hey, I guess. Oh boy. Guys, I didn't want to hear this. Like it it makes me sad a little bit in a way. Yeah, but I'm also happy for you because of what you're doing.

SPEAKER_09 1:45:11

I've I've heard, you know, from a number of people that I've I've told. I I started off with just a couple, but I it was like, keep it under wraps. I gotta talk to a few people first. You know, one was you know, IMCA because of the fact that you know I've been a part of the Supernationals for a number of years now with the event photography. And of course, Boone Speedway, I need to kind of put the word out there that that things were were slowing down. And I you know, I I'd done it a few years back at Marshalltown, decided it was time to get down to one, have a little more family time. You know, I've got eight grandkids now. Well, uh huh. So that's that's a big part of it. Um and they're not babies. They're no, they're well hold on, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_10 1:45:56

What do you got going on? You haven't even said yet. So what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_09 1:45:58

Well giving it are you giving it up? I'm gonna I'm gonna give it up. Um I I made a decision uh a few weeks back to hang up the camera for racing. Um I want to be able to attend more ball games, more of my grandson's soccer games and such, and and you know, of course the wrestling thing doesn't get to interfere because it's winter time. But you know, I haven't had a vacation during the summer, you know, for over 40 years. Yeah. You know, you add you add it up. I mean it's what 43 years, you know. Yep.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:39

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_09 1:46:40

Um could I probably continue on? Probably. But you know, the body's kind of starting to tell me it's time you know, get done on a long Saturday night like this last weekend, it takes a day to recoup. You know, the back hurts. You know, of course, I carry the heavy stuff. I've got a battery pack that probably weighs 15 pounds that sits on my hip and and the big dish on top, you know, and you know, to me that throws out the light a lot better than than the normal speed light.

SPEAKER_12 1:47:07

And everybody listening up, these new photographers at the racetrack, he's giving out his secrets right here. He hangs up the lens. Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:47:17

But you know, and another big, big reason is supernationals. Um, you know, I've been coming to supernational since 1993. That has been part of my whole being for for that long. Um I love it. You know, I mean I just it's it's one of those things that it's it's the mecca of of dirt track racing. It doesn't get any better than doing speedway. I just it doesn't, you know. And then but I have a couple changes with some two of my best help for the week. One being my daughter and my son-in-law. They weren't gonna be able to attend this year. You know, and there was one point I even got asked, why do you have so many people helping you doing this? And it's like so I start listing it out, and pretty soon it's like, okay, I understand. That's fine.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:11

Why don't you have more?

SPEAKER_09 1:48:13

And and and you know, because it's a lot of hours, you know. I mean when you start, you know, two o'clock in the afternoon, and you know, and then you gotta try to manage your hours and then what time do you close at night, and you know, and and so there's a lot of work that goes into that for us, the way that I wanted to do it. Now, is there gonna maybe be changes in how that's done? Maybe, I don't know. Not not up to me to decide how that that shakes out. But without those two family members helping us out for the week, that was one of my biggest ones. That was the first decision I made. I I turned to Denise and I said, Would it bother you if we maybe don't do supernationals this year? And her first response was no. And I I've I've known a lot.

SPEAKER_12 1:49:05

She's been waiting for you to probably say that for how many years?

SPEAKER_09 1:49:08

I've been a w I've been I've been another year or two for probably between five and ten years. Well, I'm gonna do this another year or two, another year or two. And then it hit me right after I we had decided that, yeah, here I'm even feeling it now. Um Gooseies and all. Um But I said, you know what? I think I'm just ready to be done. Instead of even taking it up to that point and trying to call it quits at the end of the year, I said, boy, why don't we just do it right now, you know? So I wanted to do at least one more Harris clash. Yeah? Yep. So my wife had said, okay, let's make it the end of June. So that's what we Holy shit. That's what we've set our date. We set our date for the end of June. Um Track photographers going to be left in good hands?

SPEAKER_12 1:50:02

Can we who are we allowed to?

SPEAKER_09 1:50:04

As far as far as I know, it's gonna be Jane Bird. She is I we had that discussion with her and asked her if she wanted me to name drop. I did so. I believe she's been called by one person anyway. This kind of cement that you know, so it's time.

SPEAKER_12 1:50:21

First of all, Bruce, congratulations. Thank you. On making a decision like that for something. Yeah, I well, that's what I'm saying. Like it uh you've done it for 43 years, you know, like you said, and and to be able to a lot of people respect Bruce and Denise and what you guys do and what you what kind of enjoyment you've brought to so many families with pitchers and and shots at the racetrack.

SPEAKER_09 1:50:51

There's so many people, you know, to thank type scenario. I've done a lot of that already. You know, the promoters that have allowed me to come in and shoot, you know, the organizations that I've shot for, um, you know, it's branched out, you know, to other things, you know. I've done l a number of go-kart four-wheeler type, you know, races as well over the years. Um you know, thanks to everybody that's ever allowed me to do what I do at a racetrack. You know, get even gets back to the days when we were asked to, you know, we were gonna have an actual t-shirt trailer at one point, and that kind of fell through and I think uh somebody found out what exactly it was gonna cost. Um but so that didn't end there. Denise and I had that discussion. It's like, well, how can we make this happen? You know, we had a minivan, also with all the kids, and but it was I probably had five big t-shirt boxes sitting in my living room that all said John Logan on them. Um he was our bestseller back in the day. I bet he was. You know, so one, all that t-shirt money that were we wanted to keep a tiny bit of each shirt that we sold was gas money. You know, that that really got us back and forth the racetrack without ever worrying. Something's gotta pay the bills. Um but thanks to everybody that's ever been in, you know, part of what we have done at the racetrack, you know. Times have changed. You know, it's not the same, take all the photos out and display them as things started slowing down. You know, we got to the point where my wife even said, I think it's time we close the shop shop up here in the in the grandstand. You know, or she'd only be open for an hour and a half, you know, or something, and you know, where it used to be busy the entire night. Well, but social media has done that. Yeah. You know, it's changed a whole lot, you know, to of what we do. Um I truly enjoy what I've done. I'm gonna be kind of sad to to hang to hang it up. What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_12 1:53:07

I'm trying to wrap my head around this because I got more than what are you gonna do? I mean, are you gonna grill a steak and rent the races and watch them or like with the grandkids? Or like that's what I'm trying to wrap my head around when I get to your position. Like, because my attention span's not that long. Okay. So, like, what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_09 1:53:29

I mean, I'll still follow. I'll I'll still make sure I I keep up on on who's who's when I mean I still look every every weekend, I'm looking at Marshalltown. Right. Follow what's happening up there. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Um I follow the bigger sanctioning bot, you know not bigger, IMCA is the biggest, really.

SPEAKER_12 1:53:48

But you know, late models, NASCAR.

SPEAKER_09 1:53:52

I you know, I like it all. I mean, I just any form of racing, I have I've fallen in love with it. You know, so that it'll always be part of it, you know. But but coming and shooting pictures every week, I'm I'm tired, I'm done. You know. If I come back to Boone Speedway, it's gonna be without a camera. That's gonna be so weird. And it's gonna, you know, come up and and and just go have chats with people. Yeah, you know, spend that time. Um, part of my plan, and it's gonna be a huge undertaking. I did a little bit of it a while back when Dan from Speedway asked me to provide some old shots of Wayne Larson. Oh. I said, You realize I gotta go back to negatives for that.

SPEAKER_12 1:54:34

But Bruce Secretly's like, I still have them and I know where they are. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:54:39

Yeah, so so I pull out the negatives and I start going through some of them, and it's like, okay, I'll I'm gonna digitize this one, I'm gonna do this one. Well, I've got a system down where I know I can do it. It's just time consuming. Yeah. You know, but I I plan on digitizing my whole catalog.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:58

That really is.

SPEAKER_09 1:54:59

And I want and I want and I want to go back and I want to be able to post some stuff from say 1983 at Marshalltown.

unknown 1:55:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 1:55:08

Because it's not been out there for a number of years. It's just what is on people's walls or in their shoe boxes full of pictures. So much history. You know, so I've got a I've got a bunch of totes of negatives that that I'll you know be going through. That's gonna be awesome. I mean, it's wow. I budgeted back in the day because film, you know, you had 24 exposure and 36, so you budgeted, so you kind of run out at Victory Lane, you know. Um Digital opened that up to you know, you were you need to have overshooters anonymous. Right, right. We kind of talk about that between a number of my friends that shoot racing, and uh, you know, it's like how many shots do you shoot tonight? Well, I'm about 800 tonight. It's like, holy smokes, that's a little bit of time sitting and trying to go through them all. So, you know, the work doesn't stop at the racetrack, you know. It's like you have to go back and work on your stuff, you know, the race cars, and you know, I gotta go home and you know, put it all together and get it, you know. Which I still have to do this weekend. I still gotta get some pictures to Josh and Cody. But um But there again, you know, I I really appreciate the opportunities I've had, the friendships I've made. They'll last a lifetime.

SPEAKER_12 1:56:32

Yeah. You know, um I don't think you ever walk into a racetrack and there isn't somebody that it is like, hey Bruce, what the hell's going on? You know what I mean? Like I've I don't know if I've ever seen that.

SPEAKER_09 1:56:43

I have I have people come up to me. Sometimes they'll say, hand me a $20 bill. She says, I forgot to pay you last year. I said, Really? I don't remember that, but uh well thank you. Thanks for remembering. Um it's that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_10 1:56:56

It goes right to the good sessions, Danny gets a soda and a hot dog.

SPEAKER_09 1:57:00

Or or or you just have somebody come up and ask, you know, did you get a shot of this? Or you know, I need to get on and look, you know, now, you know. And uh so yeah, it's been uh some fun.

SPEAKER_12 1:57:13

So okay, Jane, I'm just I'm gonna I'm gonna call you out here. These are some pretty big shoes to fill in, even though I always say we create our own shoes, but uh it's gonna be a little weird not seeing the camper at the Super Nationals in the spot. Like that's you'll be at a campground somewhere now, right? But you know what I mean? Like, I mean, you know, congratulations on your career of doing this and and what how you're gonna be able to shut it down just like I know which no, it's awesome.

SPEAKER_09 1:57:43

But I think that's the way I need to do it. It's awesome. I'm going out on my own terms as well. Right, right. You know, I you know, I'm not having somebody else tell me that you're not welcome here anymore. Or you've got to stop. You know, yeah. I mean that's the thing. I mean, I've done everything that I think I could have ever done in this sport with with my photography that I could ever do. I mean you know, and and I get to go out on my own terms. I still have to work another few years yet before I can, you know, say I'm totally retired, but uh but it's it it's coming too, you know, in the in the next few years. So um, but yeah, it's it's been fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:21

Well, there's a tremendous amount of dedication that you've had, and that dedication led to that helmet right there.

SPEAKER_09 1:58:30

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:30

I got I got to be there for that. It's something that Angie and I've done the last few years when that's an awesome thing to attend. It's incredible. I and I think you gotta come up to it sometime. Like it's uh my first one was when Nona got inducted, and she just called us and invited us up. And but to see, you know, the group of people that come together for that is so cool. And then to see guys go up on the stage that you've known for so long and were a part of my short career and your long career, and you know, all these different people.

SPEAKER_09 1:59:03

Or some of the guys that are still coming to that banquet every year, or some of the guys that I were sh I was shooting when I started. Yes, you know, singer, you know. Um, you know, that's that's the thing. If you have the opportunity, um the the Iowa Hall of Fame and Racing Museum, what a what a deal for that to finally have a home. Um it's you know, there is so much memorabilia, it changes out as well. Um I'm amazed. I mean, I've already told m multiple people that you know I've got to go back up and be able to sit down and and just spend time. I had a conversation with Jimmy Guston and he brought up I said we got to talking about it, he's was talking about going up there and going through some of the albums and just sitting looking at pictures, and it's like, well, that's what I'm kind of starting to work on now, is is my portfolio that I want to put up there um and present to them, you know, for far as far as like eight by tens and things like that, that somebody can come back and thumb through. But Dean Malone has his entire negative collection is up there, not all of it. I mean, he did sell some off years ago, but a majority of his negative collection is there. He's got a lot of prints there as well. Big collection. I'm in possession of all of his 20 by 30 aerial shots from the Supernationals. Nice cool. So because that part didn't go. Uh they're gonna go in my building. I'm gonna line the walls with with all of his prints, you know. We helped him out and sold some of those for him at Supernationals. Um, because people did want that shot.

SPEAKER_12 2:00:47

You know, the only shots of you know the aerial of that, the ones that I don't have are the ones that I won. Oh, really? Yeah, my dad, we buy them every year, but in 2014 and 2019 and 2020, we didn't buy them. Didn't do it. Oh no. Didn't do it. Well sorry. I'm just I just thought about that. I'm like, gosh, can you know? But there again, do you know a guy?

SPEAKER_09 2:01:08

It's memories. Do you know a guy? I think all the negatives probably up in the Hall of Fame. So probably have to sweet talk them into letting them the negative get out to be able to skip. Marty and my dad are pretty good buds.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:18

I imagine that might be a chance.

SPEAKER_11 2:01:20

There you go.

SPEAKER_09 2:01:20

There is a shot. I know his filing system as well. So I um when we were up there and visited um Jerry Mackey was there and somebody else that can't recall, but they said something about the negatives, and I said, Oh yeah, I said here. I said it says do not get in here, but I pulled that drawer open and I pulled out a couple sleeves and I said that was shot in this year. This was his number of roll, and this was the image on that roll, you know, or you know, how you know, so it it just makes it so much easier if as long as you get them all slid back in where they belong. You know, you can go back to it if somebody was was to give you a number later in in life. Well, I know I could go find his supernationals just by dates, you know, and and and figure that out, you know, and get in there and and know that it's Friday or Saturday night that he went up in the air and shot that that photo, you know. No shit. That's crazy. It wasn't until his last couple that that um I was giving him my digital camera. I said, shoot shoot your dig shoot your negative shot, shoot on your camera, and then on your last passover, I said, shoot a couple shots with this and we'll see what we get. Well, that encouraged him to go out and get a digital camera so he could take a lot of shots digitally, and then he figured out how to go get things printed as well, and you know, so but uh but yeah, it's that museum is a is a place to go. It's a treasure that this you know that we have it. Um the induction is is something else as well. I mean, I was sh just floored when when my wife had gotten a message from somebody else and and uh kind of the comments about here you should do something right now too. And so she started a biography, you know, and we started going through dates and the history, and it was like wow. You know, that's not always easy to figure out kind of the date scenario, but it's it's you know, it's a lot of years and and it's it's a true privilege to be a part of the Hall of Fame. You know, not you know, because not everybody's gonna gonna get inducted. I mean, there are so many people I know that should be part of it that are not in there yet. And it's a matter of time, I think. Yeah. You know, it it truly is a matter of time you know, for somebody to get them inducted. So you know. But it's get there and visit. I mean, it's it's a cheap entry into the into the museum. Make a day of it, you know, and go see it.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:54

Definitely.

SPEAKER_09 2:03:54

But yeah, that's the helmet, that was a scenario I never dreamed after signing it up there. We had to sign three of 'em. The maker of the tr of the helmet kept one, and the Hall of Fame has one, and then the the third one is is the one they auctioned off. Again, the auction money went goes right back into the museum. My son starts bidding, and somebody else is bidding and running him up and and I'm like starting to tear up, and you know, it's like, come on, you know, you know, it's just like you're not gonna be able to do this, you know. And pretty soon I see his his mom, nod her head. So she had her hand in it as well, but but they they won the bid, and uh and uh here I I get to show it off now. And it's pretty cool. So it is it is cool. I I will treasure it for my lifetime.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:49

Yep. Yep, pretty cool class people you went in with too. Have you put it on?

SPEAKER_09 2:04:55

One time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:04:57

I knew you were gonna say that. Just because like I would have gotten the car. My head's not that big. Like I would have gotten the car and rode with it on the way home.

SPEAKER_13 2:05:08

What's going on? You know what I mean? Uh oh, we know.

SPEAKER_09 2:05:13

We know I truly I truly wish Denny Osborne would have been there to receive that honor. Yeah. Um, the family accepted it. Um, but there again, he's one of those guys that was there right when I started shooting. Um, you know, there's there's a number of people like that that have, you know, were there when I began, and and that's that's the neat thing too, is is you know, seeing that history made. Mm-hmm. It'll continue long after I'm gone.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:41

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_09 2:05:42

But you'll always be in it. Yep, I'll so pretty neat deal.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:47

Yep.

SPEAKER_13 2:05:48

Definitely awesome. Um, should we are we gonna take a break or we just want to roll through?

SPEAKER_02 2:05:54

We should probably hit a short break and then come right back.

SPEAKER_13 2:05:58

At least give a spot for G to edit edit it in. Yeah, I think smoke anyway. Sounds good. Well, we'll take a break. When we get back, we'll wrap this thing up with Adobe Lounge Power Rankings, Elm Quiston Question of the Week, and Little Mayhem. Moffat's mayhem. Yep. So alright. You are watching Watermelon Woodships. We'll be right back.

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SPEAKER_13 2:07:53

Welcome back, RaceFans. Watermelons and wood chips presented by Central Iowa Diesel Performance. And it has been confirmed uh Garrett is recording the segment, so we're in good shape this time. So um, but uh, you know, just talk to Bruce about some cool stories and what his plans are moving forward, and uh, you know, he had told me down in the infield that's what they were gonna do, and I was like, took me a minute to process. I'm like, you gotta be shitting me, Bruce. Like, what do you mean? But I get it. I mean, it's it's uh it's a lot, especially like you said, 43 years of your weekends gone, and um but wouldn't trade it though. Right, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:38

More memories than most, honestly.

SPEAKER_13 2:08:40

Correct. Correct, yeah, and that's I mean, that's we do it because we love it, right? So um yeah, so like I said, I was I was a little taken back a little bit when when he told me that, but no, I I am I'm proud of you and in making that decision. Like it's gotta be tough too, you know. So um, well, let's roll into Adobe Lounge Power Rankings. Um oh before that I did want to make mention are the merchandise store still open till the 31st. Yeah, next Sunday. So I was looking at numbers today. Um stuff's rolling pretty good. So um yeah, but like I said, I know people are waiting until the last minute before it's like, oh, I got five days left to order this stuff or whatever. And we will have stuff on hand once Eric prints everything. So um do want to thank 905 Inc. um for partnering with us on that on that stuff. So um just a few more days to get your pre-orders in on that stuff. Um it would be nice just just go ahead and order this stuff if you think you're gonna get something because it helps us out because then we can stay a little more organized. So um we need help being organized. We've we've proven that. Right. So but anyway, beyond that, going into the the power rankings, um, so I did run them, like I dumped them into the spreadsheet, and then it did change a little bit, obviously, because of the we'd only had like half the features run or a couple features compared to. But um top ten overall now for over the last seven weeks with the formula that we've concocted. Um Jeremy Mills is number one, uh Sokka was two, Mike Smith is three in the sport mod. Todd Shute um is fourth in the modified Jimmy Gustin goes uh fifth in the stock car. Eric Knudson's up two spots in the hobby stock, obviously, because of his um both the features that he won. Um can't it still has Cam Reimers in seventh, but um even with missing the one week, so there's a like a penalty in there for if you miss a week, but he's still in seventh because of obviously the the weeks that he had prior. Horseshit. Bobcat and Bobcat's in eighth. Um up a spot?

SPEAKER_02 2:11:18

No, I lost a spot. Oh, you were seventh?

SPEAKER_13 2:11:21

I was seventh last week. Or was I ninth? No, I think you were it says you were eighth last week too, but that doesn't seem right. Anyway. McBurney's ninth and Devin Smith up three spots to ten. So um it says uh the biggest mover was Doug Smith after winning the feature. Um jumps up to like eight to eight spots or so. Um but yeah, anyway, that stuff's moving around. Um get through that. And then Where is it? Oh yeah, I don't have internet on my computer because you got it on your phone.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:03

I got it on my phone, yeah. Um letter it. So our own questing question of the week. And again, this was inspired by Bruce a little bit. Uh what's your favorite racing picture taking taken of you or your favorite driver? Sharon Tag the photographer. Um, 'cause I know sometimes the photographers don't get some credit if they they usually do, but a lot of times a lot of them are very good with it. And I was surprised, so we have 93 comments on this so far. It kind of blew up. Um and I'm actually surprised, like the first handful, it's like taken by my mom, taken by my fiance, taken by my husband. It's like, okay, that I mean But they take pictures too. They take pictures, and pictures are special. I mean, they're we we all take for granted now because honestly, and if I'm being completely honest, this thing takes better pictures than anybody could take 40 years ago.

SPEAKER_09 2:12:55

Well, and every photo is a moment in time.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 2:12:58

That's why I like, you know, unlike a video camera. It's one moment at a time.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:03

Yep. Yep. Uh we got a shot in here from Corey Rose. This is kind of funny.

SPEAKER_12 2:13:08

You just saw it too. I'm laughing. He's got the up, he's got her up hang loose down there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:17

I felt like I was on a spaceship. I'm not sure what to do with my hands.

SPEAKER_13 2:13:21

So yeah, I memed him. Left turn law dog.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:27

Yep, yep. So no, some really good stuff on there. And in this, once again, this question, it just depends. Sometimes, you know, the different ones that we've had, but something like this, this offers you an opportunity to see, you know, what people's favorites were. And I'm actually excited to get home, get out my album, and get my favorite posted on there because I s like I said, I still have it, and I'm gonna send it to Gary to make sure he pieces it in. But um, yeah, just very cool. And any of this stuff that we do on here, the the people that jump on take their time to go on and find a picture and throw in there is really neat and you know, share those memories and and once again with social media and it's engagement. Engagement, exactly. Yep. So very cool. Appreciate everybody doing that. Appreciate Elmquest Toeing, um, you know, sponsoring that little segment. And it's uh I don't know, I could just I can scroll through every one of these things.

SPEAKER_13 2:14:23

I know I'm locked into the looking at the photo.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:25

You get stuck doing it, and it's like I'm sure Bruce will look through later and like, well, did I take that one? Nope, I didn't take that one. I took that one.

SPEAKER_09 2:14:31

Or so well, and that's a funny thing too, because you you really do know if if it's your shot. Yeah, sure. I mean there there's so many times that that you can see that photo and say, I was either there or the guy right beside me took that one. Sure.

SPEAKER_13 2:14:45

Well, and you know, like you guys have your own style, just like anything. Correct. You know, so you can you can usually pick out like, oh, that's a Bruce shot, or oh, that's Jane's or whoever, you know. Um it just yeah, you you can start to after you do it for so long, you can see who's got the right correct you know, style. Yep. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_12 2:15:06

Have you guys seen Matt Avila's post on here of him and Buck?

SPEAKER_02 2:15:09

No, I was looking at Duckies.

SPEAKER_12 2:15:10

Oh man. Yeah, Ducky, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:12

Duckies' got a good one. It's a pretty good week at Supernational. Oh yeah. Oh, Buck is a baby. That's baby Buck. Look at that. Wow.

SPEAKER_13 2:15:26

Memories seriously, holy shit. Oh, yeah. That's one thing we didn't talk about was Buck picking up the big duck.

SPEAKER_12 2:15:33

We need to touch base on that, yeah. So the whole hog 50 uh at Stuart International last night. Um, man, what an event. Uh the Todd the Van Eatonville uh Mafia, I'm gonna say that. Lori and Brian and Nick and Chai and uh Tracy and everyone that's involved with that show down there. That you know, I if you didn't get it catch it on the broadcast last night, the little they had pig heads and pig butts for the draw. Uh they were magnetized on a bushlight uh with a little metal thing. Brian was having some toddy's and come up with this fantastic idea. Um it looked neat.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:13

It was. It did.

SPEAKER_12 2:16:14

I mean, it really was. And I will say that's one of the only shows that you go to that they do a draw, and if the driver does not show up in his driving suit, he doesn't get the 12 pill, he starts behind the provisionals.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:32

Oh.

SPEAKER_12 2:16:32

Dead last. You know, dead last. Okay. You don't want to come and support our event that we're doing, and I don't know if you guys seen it last night, but that place was absolutely packed.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:45

I saw they they panned the camera and I was leaving the cars parked all in the road, literally.

SPEAKER_12 2:16:49

Far road. It's giving me the jeebies right now because you get up there, and that's what that's I told Todd and and them, I'm like, the drivers need to be up there with their suit on. That's what the kids like when I was a kid, I wanted to go down and I wanted to see Denny Stone burner. And my I mean my dad too, but it's like the persona.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:12

And there is something different about when they come and do the draw and they're in shorts and flip-flops. Exactly. Have the dri have the driver's suit on because you're you're different.

SPEAKER_09 2:17:20

Exactly. So one last little thing I'll throw in here that I think needs to come back. I think the kids' club needs to come back. Give those kids an opportunity to come down and be with their favorite driver. Maybe go flag a race, you know, and do some of that. Make them part of it. Saturday night. I know you got to do it as a youngster. Yes. You know, yes. I mean, that's to me real important. Get the kid involvement. Those kids are there.

SPEAKER_13 2:17:51

You have a candy toss this weekend. That's a good point. Really? Do you guys got enough candy?

SPEAKER_12 2:17:57

Gotta order it. Yeah, we gotta we gotta get it. Walt, count me in for some Tootsies. The good Tootsies. The good Tootsies. Yeah, I'll I'll bring a bag of blues, a bag of reds, and some purples. Alright. Alright. Um, but Donny Lindall gotta go to Costco. Donnie Lindall member.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:15

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_12 2:18:16

He used to go down to that his old brown car and get me a little handful of candy every Saturday night. You know. But back to the Stuart thing quick.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:24

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:18:28

We go out there and there was some controversy on the racetrack. Okay, and there was some controversy on Doom Scroll. So I'm gonna bring that up because I wasn't working there. I'm so excited about it. I get I get hammered about it, you know. And uh we go out there and we decided this year all classes were gonna start three wide, except the micros, mini mods. Yep. Um and I think that, you know, A, nobody else does that besides Supernationals that in IMCA for an IMCA show. Uh and we take off there, and I jump the cushion down in one and two and catch the water patch that Mike left up there. Um, and it just sucked me into the wall and spun me around. And oh, I got already I'm already hearing about it on the internet. Oh, he's on there crying and got his spot back. And actually, no, that didn't happen. Zip was taking photos of me. I was letting everybody drive by. My car was running. Uh, and I'm like, I it was dangerous. Like, it was wet enough that it was dangerous up there. And I mean, I didn't know that at the time, you know. I I fully was expecting to go to the tail because I brought the yellow out, and so I come down the pit and I wave zip over, and he comes over, and I'm like, hey, you need to tell Mike that it is unsafe up there. Like, and then I was telling talking to Jimmy about it, he goes, Man, I thought I maybe clipped you a little bit or something, you know. And I'm like, No, I just got my right rear in that stuff, and it just sucked me into the wall. And so they come on the race receiver, and Mike just says, 6ix9ine, we're gonna give you your spot back, guys. We watered the top of the racetrack to for the longevity of this 50 lap race, you know, hopefully it's gonna work in and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, it ended up not being that great, and it just kind of one-laned up on us there. It was the same for everybody. Um, had a little controversy with the 41 car uh racing for a one-lane deal, and we got together and yeah, I tried taking him out. Race me, how I'll race you. Um, what Doom Scroll didn't catch was the fact that I've raced with Thor Anderson and the sport mods and the modified and now stock cars. Always gotten along great. We've always just two weeks ago, we were at Marshtown Speedway and we were doing this and shit and slicing and dicing. And he comes over and he's like, Man, thank great race. You know, like thanks for racing me clean and this and that and everything. So, of course, I do what I do, and I go down to his pit and I literally walk up there and I'm like, Thor, what what the hell was that, man? And he's like, dude, I just I ran you over. And I like my jaw is still on the grass up there in the north in the in the in the south field at Stewart because people aren't like that. I didn't go there looking for a fight. I just know that Thor, like, it was just a racing deal. Um, you know, and I wanted to show my displeasure. Um, you know, I didn't run into him on the caution. I just gave him the, you know, we got really good sign language. If you don't have the sign language race book, they do sell those on Amazon. Uh so if you need the sign language race book, because there's a lot of that hand signal stuff. Go Jimmy and Devin gave us a nice little uh show of that here two weeks ago at the Moon Speedway, but uh I literally just was like, okay, Thor, I respect that, you know, and and uh we shook hands and it's over. It's over with. It was literally over with as soon as he was just like, Hey man, I screwed up. You know, and people say that I don't do that, and I do do that because we are all human and we all make mistakes. I've seen you do that, and it's just part of racing, and I'm gonna say it again for all the people that didn't hear it in the back. Maybe we're the people that are awake now here. Uh but uh the day the racer quits caring about that is the day that our sport's in trouble. And the day I'll I'll say this the day that I quit caring about that and quit going to people's pit to have a conversation with him. I didn't go down there to fight him. Uh, I'm gonna sell all my shit. Yep. And and quit going because, you know, I mean, I got 200 bucks and our little altercation on the track cost me like $75, you know, because of the pay. So I'm pissed I lost out on that $75. So life goes on, but Buck goes and finally gets to stick his tongue on the pig's nose down there in Victory Lane. Um what a great accomplishment, you know. Todd and Tracy are pretty hard on us boys about not ever being able to pick the. I ran second there to the Murdies. The Murdies have dominated that show. Um, and then uh, you know, Caden Carter comes in last year and Okie dokes us all and takes it away. So it was really cool to see Buck finally, and Buck runs good there, and he supports they support the Stuart Speedway every week. So to see him get that, and he had to pass Damon.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:27

He did.

SPEAKER_12 2:23:28

And um that wasn't a jab at Mike that the racetrack was one that are top dominant. It just sometimes that happens. And and I think everybody out there made the best of it, and but that's when you start to see that little bit more of aggressive driving because you're all fighting for that same real estate, and uh we see that you uh more times now than we don't, you know, and people start doing that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:53

So let's face it too, you're you're running not just for the money at the show, you're also running for a shot at the all-star race at Supernationals. 100%. Like there's a lot on the line for something like that. Exactly. I did, I texted Colton in Dakota as soon as Buck crossed the finish line. I said, It's a bad day to be a bushlight in Stewart, Iowa. That is no shit. They are gonna put a hurting on him tonight. So but no, I was happy for them. And I don't know, is that a little bit of karma for watermelons and wood chips? They come up here and taught and Buck was here, and then he goes down and wins. Something.

SPEAKER_12 2:24:26

Kinda, I think so. He was scared, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:24:29

We'll see.

SPEAKER_12 2:24:29

We'll see.

SPEAKER_02 2:24:30

We'll see. So, questions done. Mayhem. Mayhem. We gotta talk about some mayhem. How do you not give it to Colby again?

SPEAKER_13 2:24:40

Yeah, OB's gotta be O'Brampt's gotta be the guy. Wrong. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:24:46

I mean, it's a very prestigious award to get the Moffat's mayhem.

SPEAKER_13 2:24:50

And guy, like the people that like they seriously bring it up to me like as I'm going through the pits or whatever, they're like, hey, you better have this be the Moffitt's mayhem of the week.

SPEAKER_12 2:25:01

I think we I think we need to get uh stickers made that's Moffitt's mayhem and whatever, like if you make the Moffitt's mayhem. And you can put the date on it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, if you are the Moffitt's mayhem of this week, here, slap this on your car.

SPEAKER_02 2:25:17

Make them with a line with a date so you can just write it on there. We can make we can do that. We have the technology, as I've heard you say. That's a great idea. Let's do it. I mean, I'm just saying that's why I'm in management. We'll make it happen for Saturday.

SPEAKER_12 2:25:30

This Saturday already?

SPEAKER_02 2:25:32

Why not? Don't thread me with a good time. That's right. Yeah, OB. Come on, bud. Like we'd rather talk to you in Victory Lane instead of this stuff.

SPEAKER_12 2:25:41

I know. Um I mean, are we gonna have to have an award at the end of the year who has the most profit man? Like it might be a $50 gift card here.

SPEAKER_09 2:25:52

True.

SPEAKER_02 2:25:52

Very true. Yep. Yep. Well, I think we covered everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 2:25:57

Yeah. On that, no. Want to thank uh Farley also for coming on board. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 2:26:04

Yep, got the sign down there. I think we're gonna try and find a little more permanent.

SPEAKER_13 2:26:07

Yeah, we'll get this laid out. We got the Barbie over there in the Barntown over there.

SPEAKER_02 2:26:13

I just had an idea for the for that. I we got her fixed. We're good on that.

SPEAKER_12 2:26:17

We gotta get the Dale phone in here because I'm ready to Dale phone's next.

SPEAKER_02 2:26:20

We got some calls to make, don't we?

SPEAKER_12 2:26:21

We got some calls to make, yeah. Yeah, that's right. But any uh, real quick too, before we close this out, is there any big racing coming up? Uh any special events that were drawing a blank. Like it kind of goes stagnant here for a little bit. We're gonna just be doing some weekly stuff.

SPEAKER_02 2:26:38

Yep.

SPEAKER_12 2:26:38

And then come, I think is Harris Clash gonna be the first kickoff to thing because shortly after that challenge will be before that, actually.

SPEAKER_13 2:26:48

Yeah, Hawkeye Challenge is the 20th of June.

SPEAKER_12 2:26:50

So it's the week before the Harris Clash.

SPEAKER_02 2:26:52

It's Hawkeye, Harris. There's like a yeah, there's a little bit of a trifecta there.

SPEAKER_13 2:26:59

So this weekend's the strength shop night for the and the candy tops. Wait, when's the Bumblebee Nationals? Those are coming up soon too, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:27:06

Yeah, there you go. There's the next one. The week after Clash.

SPEAKER_12 2:27:10

Bumblebee tuna.

SPEAKER_02 2:27:11

Yep, Bumblebee tuna race. I I think Logan hates that we say that, but it's alright.

SPEAKER_12 2:27:16

Right. But but there's no other shows. Like they had the anniversary race over at Vinton last night. We didn't touch base on that, Tom Barry. Barry did it. Tom Barry picked it up. Uh must have been a little bit of an altercation on the racetrack. I've seen the quarter panel or the sail panel was flattened into the deck. Oh. Um, or maybe a wreck happened. I I'm not really sure. A dirty Tom, per se? Uh he's been throwing some clean toms from what I've seen.

SPEAKER_13 2:27:42

He did a one on a little tour this weekend. Right.

SPEAKER_12 2:27:48

He's at his in-laws playing. He doesn't even walk, he's got this little one-footed scooter thing or one-wheeled scooter thing. I don't know how he bounces.

SPEAKER_02 2:27:55

You said he comes across the rock, scares you. It does.

SPEAKER_12 2:27:58

But Dylan Van Wick picking up the sport mod uh went over there for the sport mod portion of the anniversary. Um Rage Car. I forgot. Yes, he has a rage car. Yep. Um, I forgot that it was the anniversary weekend. And I mean, just because there was so much other stuff going on. So uh they are racing tonight in Bloomfield and at Hancock County Speedway. USMTS is up there tonight. Uh they're running a real limited schedule. I've almost completely forgot. But also, guys, we need to touch base on this. Next Sunday, the 31st, the new IMCA Sports Parkway, Fort Dodge. Speedway is gonna open up, and we are going to check it out. We're gonna go check it out.

SPEAKER_02 2:28:41

We're gonna go as a group. We're gonna hang out in the pits with the 69 car.

SPEAKER_12 2:28:45

I'm taking an old helmet because I heard that it's a little rocky up there. So it is a quarry. Uh I got Ivan printing me some uh knuckle braces or knuckle covers on the old 3D print. Smart. Um, because I've been up there and caught a rock or two, and I'll tell you, you'll be icing that finger for about a week.

SPEAKER_09 2:29:03

Here's the deal, bud. I've caught one uh right here when I was shooting.

SPEAKER_12 2:29:06

No shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They don't tickle. No, I'm excited because they've shortened the racetrack from what I hear. I haven't seen it. Um, but uh I haven't been there in so long. I'm kind of excited about it. I'm gonna have to reach on uh and rely on some of my peers for a gear selection. Uh but uh that's kind of some exciting news. Sports Parkway opening up on the regular season. Like, cause normally, like what 30 years ago, we weren't start even starting racing till this weekend. Right. Memorial day and then it was go time. Then it was then it was race season. A lot of them did it that way. Memorial Day to Labor Day. So it's kind of cool that they're going back OG OG up there in the big dirty D.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:53

And you don't need to worry about rock guards when you're out front, bud.

SPEAKER_12 2:29:56

Uh bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:58

Oh because I mean there you just you just never know. Plan for the worst, hope for the best.

SPEAKER_12 2:30:06

Correct. Right? So that's exciting. Uh so kind of excited about that. If you can't catch, uh, can't make it up to Fort Dodge up there. I I it'd be really cool to see a good crowd up there uh switching back over to IMCA uh sanction. Um get out there and support that place. It's been around for a long time. They've had a lot of trying years up there, and that's why I'm going. I'm going up to check it out. I'm gonna go up and see the new shrunk track, and uh and it'll give us something to talk about on the following podcast.

SPEAKER_02 2:30:36

Oh yeah. Yeah, we'll take the we've got to take the GoPro. We'll take a little footage, we'll have a good time, we'll get G up there. See if never know. Maybe we'll get him in some trouble.

SPEAKER_13 2:30:46

Maybe we good to close out. I think so.

SPEAKER_12 2:30:52

I mean, basically, with that being said, folks, we've covered everything. Bruce, we can't thank you enough for coming on here. Thanks for inviting me. Um happy, sad uh retirement. Uh, totally understand. Get out there and enjoy them, grandkids. Uh, we've covered a lot of great stuff here on Watermelons and Woodchips episode Terry Shaffer. We're gonna close it out here. Uh you've all been watching Watermelons and Woodchips. Thanks for tuning in.

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