Married to my sister. Welcome Race Fans, Watermelons and Woodchips presented by Central Iowa Diesel Performance, and we are on episode 36. Candyman Jeff Wiggy. Yes. He's working. Yeah. We got the TV going on on the other side. Yeah. Watching a little racing up at uh Independence Motor Speedway. And Josh is up there. Him and Colton are up there helping out with that deal this week. It wasn't quite as good as what was on the TVs the first day we got airing it up here, and the old G-man had the old lady out for supper. But it's gonna work great. I mean it looks good in here. We're starting it's starting to get homey. Um yeah, what uh what an event, a great event going on up there at the Sandbox Independence uh Speedway as we speak. Um so if you're wanting to test for the clash on the coast, that is the place to go and do that at. Um and uh we've been watching some pretty good racing. Yeah, man, I got the best seat in the house. I'm just looking right past the cameras, right to the TV. But you know, this thing is coming together pretty pretty sweet. Yeah, turn the barn ton light on, bud. Oh, yeah. There we go. Yep. How's that? Does that mess up your lighting, G? Are you good? She's good. But uh the only thing we're missing in here, I feel like, is we gotta get some sort of an arcade machine up here. I've been surfing online. Yeah, yeah. And then we need a bigger fridge. But like a sight bike or big buck hunter or something like that. Well, no, they filled it full of beer, no water. I'm like, boys, I need a couple of waters. Well, Barntown hooked us up that day. We went there, so we had to have a place to store it. But um, yeah, the the BDEHQ is coming along nicely in here. It's been pretty fun to see it grow. Um But uh we have the go-kart Mozart with us. Yeah, Chris Burke, umer of Capital Sign, married to my sister. I mean, I was just waiting for it, but I mean I'm just saying. Yeah, so um, but uh topless two first coming up. Well, actually, I was wondering, are we gonna call this thing like the topless three-way or that's a good one, man? Topless triple crown or something. Um but we can get into that here um in a little bit. But yeah, he's here talking about the topless race. We have now sport mods, modified, and the mod lights all voted uh so they're gonna do it as well. They vote with one finger, they just probably you did get to run. You did get the finger on it Saturday night. I get the call from the bus man, uh, Stephen Kennedy, gives messages me and says, Hey, dad hurt his back and don't know if, you know, real bad. And he's like, Would you be interested in running the car? And I'm like, Oh man, uh, I don't know, you know. Like and then I I'm like, yeah, you know, yeah, I'll do it, you know. And so uh I went down there Saturday to hop in the thing and check it out for hot laps, and uh man, what an experience. I was out there doing the finger dance and shit. Like the steering wheel's small in it, and it's like they got this little screen in there that tells you what gear you're in. Um can you compare it to driving-wise? Uh I mean anything like you've been in before. No, like it's like you've done go-kart stuff. So imagine your go-kart with a 1200 and what how how many CCs are there? Are they 1250 or 1300s? I think there's something like that. I just know the power to wait on them is like insane. It's insane. Uh when I look at them, I think they're probably, you know, somewhere like I know you've said it before, like a non-wing sprint car or like a midget realistically, you know, with some more bodywork. Well, the throw on the throttle's about that much. Wow. Okay, and I'm like, why is it like that? You know? Well, think about it, dumbass. That I mean, it's on a cable. So it's you know, and I mean I have a motorcycle, so it's like you twist, I'm I'm in there like, got the shifter, I mean the clutch is on, you know. I'm like, okay. We get out there and and uh they run in third gear. Um, and so I get out there in second, and like you when I was going down the pit area, I was like trying to see if I could feel it, or like in our cars, you can feel it, you know, and it's so smooth. I I didn't know I'm like, oh wait, look. It says I'm in third gear already, and I'm just like putzing, you know. Well, throttle control, a little tough for the Bobcat right out of the gate. Um, so Mike's got uh power steering on his, plus he has a quickener, so it's three quarters of a turn locked on. Yeah. That's fast. That's fast. So they drop Logan drops the rag. I'm out there like I mean, because it like I say, the cockpit is the size of a big car. Okay. So they drop the rag, we go down into turn one and two, and I like come out of the corner and the thing is like shaking, and I'm like, Buck up, baby, and hang on to this thing, and drive and I go down in on the chip, and just it just felt like a big car, actually. Like it didn't feel the only thing that I felt different was um how fast I was really going and how close to the ground I am compared to. Right. I can see that. I I don't know, it's just kind of weird. Like I feel like when we're sitting in a mod light and it compared to my stock car, like, and it's probably not that much different, but it just felt like I was hauling ass. You think like car awareness and stuff like that, like you could see a lot more in terms of like you know, where you know your front tires are, all that stuff. I couldn't see the front tires, um, but Mike's Mike's down I mean he's a big boy. Yep. He's down in that seat, and uh I got I was comfortable to where I could actually drive it, you know, and I felt pretty good. Uh however Bob Moore was out there, and it's like every time we're on the racetrack, we're magnets. So and I didn't know this at the time. I had no idea this was him. But we come around three and four, and I'm like, I I make a good lap, and I'm like, alright, I'm gonna bury this thing in on the top because it looks pretty grippy and everything. Let's see what this feels like. Yeah, let's see what it feels like, you know. And this car, I can see the car, it's it's like down here, down here, and I'm like, I'm like back here, and I'm like, okay, on the straightaway, I'm like here, and he doesn't see me, and I'm like, uh oh. We're in the danger zone. Yeah, because everybody's like, don't go in, turned right and slide right. That's what makes them roll is when you got everything going one direction. Um but I was actually scared shitless, and I just went in there and buried it and stand stood on it. It's kind of like it made me actually reminded me of a sport mod. Mike's car did how it felt. Like I could go in and I could feel the car roll over on the right rear. And you had confidence in it. And I had confidence in it, yeah. I mean, and I just drove around there, but I couldn't believe how fast they are. And BZ's doing it one-footed. That was the other thing. I tried it, don't know how he does it. Dried it. I mean, and now I I can kind of see how he does it a little bit because I forgot to start the timer. Uh, but um, because the like I said, the throttle is like this long. So if he just touches it and I mean you can go back to wide open. That's what I was gonna say, you're on or you're off. Yeah, yeah. Literally. And getting out of the top, like, you know, it was weird climbing on the decking, or you know, put your foot up on the tire, climb on the decking, and then crawl up in there. But uh, they got a fan, you know, they got a fan on a switch. Mike, not a lot of them. I know Landon Elliott, Eric Elliott was giving me shit. He came down. I don't know if uh Brian punched him or if he caught a toe from his old lady, but he had a black eye. Oh, he got smoked by a softball. Oh, is that what it was? Alright, the other two sounded better. Yeah. So he's um Lexi and Haley coach a softball team together, and Eric helps, and yeah, he I think he was catching girl hit a foul ball. Yeah. So I was giving him shit about that, and he's like, Landon don't even have power steering. I'm like, well, quit being a tight ass and buy him power steering then. You don't need it. You know, but uh builds character. Yeah, yeah. Well, once you're going, it's not bad. Probably in one of them little cars. Sure. Right. But a big car, handful. Right. Yeah. Right. Um well let's jump into results, right? Uh um so Austin Gray, our our boy, got back to Victory Lane. Um after, you know, I don't he hasn't been back to Victory Lane since he put put a big tumble on that in that thing. Yeah. So um He just kind of had some shitty luck, really. But he's been super fast. Yeah, he was second last week, I think. Yeah, so um Kellen's calling me. Did you think about that at all? Like, I mean, if I get this thing upside down, what's that gonna feel like? You know, not trying to jinx your knock on wood to feel, but it's like, you know, when you go to do something and you ask the do's and the don'ts, like what do you do, what do you don't you do? Mike's like, ah, just drive it. You know, I'm like, okay. Okay. Alright. You know, so then even Jimmy May was telling me, I was like, man, I've known Jimmy f or I've seen Jimmy around the track for a long time, and he's a a big involvement in the Mod Light deal. And um I was just like, man, you know, it was just very appreciative of you know what they've turned that little series into for one, yeah. And for two, it's like, come on, Mod Light guys, there's like three or four hundred of them in the whole sanction, is what Jimmy was telling me. Let's get like three hundred of them at Supernationals. Right. Like w we haven't reached a hundred yet, and I I thought that he had, and and he said that their car count last year was eighty-nine or eighty-seven or something. High eighties. It's definitely cool to see them at some of the tracks down south and whatnot. Yeah, you know, and just kind of the following that they have, you know, across the country. That's not just, you know, this pocket, but there's a lot of good guys all over the place. And and I I think a fair amount of them do travel, but I didn't know that they were doing all that travel and stuff when they were like going to like they were at Volusia. Yep. Like, that was pretty sweet. I mean, I wonder what gear they get in there. I mean, they gotta be hauling ass down there at that place. That's just a different mentality, I would think. I mean, that's gotta be they gotta be 130, 140. Should have their radar sign down there. Let's see that. If we can get it every if we can ever get it to work, it works great on the cautions. I live there. Let's do this. If anybody is listening that knows how to run the DOT uh speed zone thing, everybody's like, well, it catches you when you're when you're going slow. I'm like, guys, it's a speed trap machine. It will read over a hundred mile an hour. Well, so the first time we did Did you shut it off this week? I don't know if anybody even turned it on. I turned it on. We turned it on and we're messing with it. So the battery somebody no, somebody must have, because I didn't see it work after features. I was thinking about this just when I was out there because I saw it, I'm like, man, be sweet if that thing worked right now. Because I remember Wahoo telling me a story about the one that they had at Harlan at one point in time. And just, you know, and if you had it angled just right that you could catch yourself and catch the second car, and if you had like just a flash where you could see the guy behind you and you could be like, that dude's two miles per hour faster than I am. Yeah. That's not good. I better pick it up. You know, right. But that's why I hate the big screens. Not cost me the world uh when the world of outlaws were here, Rocky Cottle drove around me on the outside. Oh yeah. You just watched them do it too. Watch them do it literally. Sorry, we just talked on top of each other. Um go ahead. No, I was gonna say, uh what a race between him and OB, though. Austin and OB. That dude, that's this is that the second one he's giving away on the last corner. Uh second or third one. I don't know. But yeah, they got, I mean, the lap cars and uh Austin just snookered him. Yeah. We somebody else got snookered that same night. We're about to talk about it here. I mean, I've been in that boat. Jake McBurney's done that to me so many damn times. It's tough. I mean, you just don't know where you need to be. I mean, it's I don't I you know, and you talk about the signal your signal man, you know, they like 90% of the time they help you the other 10% of the time they fuck you. Right. But um like uh being even being a signal man at times, like you don't even know what to like even though you can see it, it's like you know, and then if your driver really trusts you, he'll listen to you. You don't want to send bad information or second guess yourself on something like that. And I mean, toward you know, I you guys can you know the rundown we can get into that in here a little bit because I I was thinking some things while I was out there. Right. Alright, well we'll get through this. So Austin Gray goes uh plus six to win, uh Kobe Oberham second, Grant Anderson third, um Garrett Barber fourth, Joel Huggins fifth, um, in the uh mod lights. Um A feature one like we said, uh CB25 led for a long time. Um you just didn't you just didn't need those restarts, really, because you were you were cooking there for a while. I mean, I think we knew we knew we were gonna have to race in that one, regardless of where we were gonna be at, you know, in in terms of complexion, like how many yellows we had, and you know, 2x to 22 are some of the best in the business, so it's like you're gonna see them. And I was just watching the you know, watching the scoreboard the whole time, and I'm just like and Swatec was up there, and I think I talked to you about that the other day. I'm just like, there's two twenty-twos? Yeah, like what is going on? Yeah. And uh, you know, we just get towards the end of that deal and I I start looking up, and you know, and I I think that's kind of one of the deals this year where it's like, you know, we put ourselves in some pretty good positions to where you know, really having you know any sort of advantage, whether it's a signal guy or something like that, where you can just kind of see where things are moving. And I know better. I mean, track track progresses there. You can set your watch by it. That's one of the cool things about Boone is the fact that you know what you're gonna get every night, you know how it's gonna move around, and you know even if there's two features or double features or whatever, you kind of got an idea about how things are gonna work out. And I knew sooner or later I was I was gonna have to contend with the old Well the thing the the thing of it is, and I've been in this same position, it's like is it the bottom or is it the top? Yep. And there's times where there's a caution comes out. We've talked about it, the track doctors talked about it when the caution comes out. I'm going, I'm snail spaced. I'm letting Sarah have as much time as she needs, even though they're pointing us to pack places, because you'll see Rod like especially when we pull out of staging and be like, let's roll the middle and get the crumbs rolled in. Well, that'll roll a lane in for a lap or two. Well, so that was my thought process a little bit too, because I and I, you know, if you're in the back of an invert or you're, you know, late in a race and you're sitting there, like I like to roll a little bit slower. I'll just put the thing in gear and I won't even touch the gas and just kind of go with it just because I don't like jocking around and stuff. And then if you're in a position where you're leading and you can kind of dictate where the rest of the cars go, you know, and you can try to, you know, and sometimes I think it it may it might hurt you a little bit, but like I'm just like, I kind of want to preserve this part of the racetrack a little bit. So let's just see if we can take these guys here instead of down there. And I think you can get away with that for a little bit until you know you got the track doctor, somebody sitting there, like, uh no, we're gonna move you guys back down because we can kind of see what you're doing there a little bit, you know. Well, absolutely, but even then, like I think the worst thing about under cautions is is like lineup people if you're listening. I'm just saying this as a driver, like if you could like hurry up a little bit more and be a little more gooder at lining the cars up, I wouldn't lose as many races as I do because I get in my own damn head. You know what I mean? Like you get you're out there and or especially if you have like two or three yellows, like two, one or two laps, and you get a yellow, and then another one or two laps and then another yellow, it's like gosh dang, you know, like thinking about everything. Just just vouching for you know a lot of the officials and everything, you know, especially in central Iowa, because uh we have some of the best tracks in the country, top to bottom from not just a facility standpoint and competition, but the people that are running the things. And uh if you think if you think the lineups are moving a little slow, go to a go-kart race. Oh, but I I would have been kicked out of a go-kart race before I even was in the go-kart race. You guys asshole in each other on the starts and shit. I'd been in a fight. Not even a fight, just you know, it's it's a deal, and it's something that's really kind of changed my perspective on that type of racing a lot. Where I'm just like, why aren't we running these shows like stock car races? You know, and and why aren't we, you know, trying to get through and I'm not pointing fingers at anybody in particular or anything like that, but it's just it's just a different mentality at that level than it is at this level. And I'm like, you know, the way Is it just a go-kart thing? Uh I mean I think it just kind of depends on where you're at and what kind of format you're you're racing. You know, you gotta remember you got you know, you got kids that are learning and stuff like that. But like my my thought process with that, you know, and not to get too off-subject, was just like if you got guys that aren't quite sure what's going on and you're not using raceivers, because a lot of them don't use receivers unless it's like a major touring series or something like that, okay. Just stop them. Right. I mean, there goes five freaking laps that are yellow, and you can just get it all sorted and just go with it. But yeah, so I mean, and then Yeah, it's crazy. I Brock McCumber, you know, doing the wing car stuff, and I'm watching the videos because they send the videos and they come out to the shop, and I'm just like, I'm telling him, I'm like, bud, run them over. They're running you over. Or, you know, like using him up, and it it's like it's consistent. It happens in that go-kart deal, it seems like, everywhere. But it's definitely gonna be, I think, from for my myself as a parent wanting to get your kids involved in racing and stuff like that. I just I kind of cringe sometimes when I when I'm standing on the fence that I'm at a go-kart race, you know, anymore, just I think about it, you know, that way, and I'm just like, I'm not ready for this, you know, soccer mom, you know, youth sports type stuff when it comes to that, because I mean it's just you know, if you're if you've been around racing and you know what to expect and you know what to to tell your kids and stuff like that to move forward and do stuff, that's one thing. But you know, if you're there and you've never been around a racetrack before, I mean it's really easy to fly off the handle and and not cool off. Well, and that that's part of the reason why I never got the boys involved in it, because like of for that reason I'm like just seeing how they run some of the stuff and how long it takes and well it's a lifestyle, right? Yeah, and it is a serious lifestyle. Yeah, like and you better commit to doing that. And here's the thing, I mean, I I feel like you know, this is with anything. I mean, you get in what you put out or you you know, you get out of what you put in a into this deal. And uh it's a lot of money. It's a lot out of your parents. You gotta do a lot of homework and you gotta have parents that are committed to it. Yeah, you know. And uh it's you know, it all r racing in general is cost inhibitive, but like, you know, at that level, just to try to to to get into an entry point to to try to move on depending on how you want to do it, if you want to race go-karts or you want to get into a big car or something like that. I mean, there's so many different ways to do it now that like it it is a little bit easier in in some cases, but yeah, I mean you're you're eating sleeping and breathing it just like you are one of these things. That's yeah, and that's people people I think lose track of how much time it like there's a lot of people that can handle it and you know get wrecked and don't la we're at Fort Dodge last night uh racing uh and there was an incident and it got the guy gets out of the car and he's got his arms up in the air and they're going and everything, and I'm driving around laughing. Not at the not that he got wrecked, just the fact that it wasn't you. Well, I'm not the only one that swells my arms around and shit and gets pissed off about getting wrecked, or you know, like heat of the moment deal. And it's like uh Dave Smith, I know you're listening. I heard what you said Saturday, minister. And I love it, but Steve is so funny. It was funny. I was laughing my hands up, I was changing my gear for uh Fort Dodge on Sunday, or you know, in the shop and we were watching, I got a I got a great kick out of it. It was uh Donovan Smith actually comes out of retirement and bring bust his car out, so I go down there to talk to him or whatever, and of course I'm pulling up and Dave's walking over there, and you know, it was all kosher. It was like, you know, nothing even happened, and that's how it should be. And to get a little bit of shit from Dave, I thought that was that was pretty good. I know I admired that a lot, but uh we better get back on track. Uh so Matt wins the we've I think we did we even talk about Matt winning that race, or just talked about we don't care about anybody else. So he just jumped he he got a Good run off a off a top of three and four. And I I think it was just not by mistake, but he just went up there to try it because you guys were running lower and stuff, you know. And that's what I went back and kind of watched it a little bit and and Nate kind of talked to me and kind of you know was telling me kind of where people were at during the course of that deal. And that's not the first time I've seen Matt do that this year. Right. I think I think honestly, and it's no slight, I know he's a low house car, but pound for pound, I think the 2X is probably he's the stuff right now. Hey, but especially in our area. It's the airflow system. Yeah, exactly. It did not work at Corning, comes back to Boone, Okie dokes. You I really thought watching the race, I really thought, why isn't Mike Smith up there? But it was because you were just you were so good in the middle of the racetrack, man. You were hitting your marks, and like that's the other thing. Why my dad tries to pound in my head all the time. You were racing the same place that got you where you were at. You hadn't seen anybody, you hadn't nobody pressured you. You can't hear anybody. You can't write. There was one time late in that deal where I kind of, you know, I was kind of trying to tiptoe up there just because for me, I'm you know, kind of my style, depending if I haven't been in on one part of the track, I'm I'm like, let's just kind of slowly move up there and see, you know, what it feels like. And when you got them guys, you can't really do that. You kind of just gotta make a decision. And I saw a nose, and I'm like, well, I think we were better where we were at. So I'm just like, I'm just gonna stay back down there, and then alright, see ya. And that's how it happens, folks, right there, that quick. About 80 feet in the corner. Yeah. Um, so Matt Avala wins, had the airflow thing dialed up on the top right there. Uh Mikey Smith goes second, CB25 goes third, Trevor Noonan goes fourth, uh Dayton Swatek had a pretty good run. Uh top five for him. Um Colby Grady goes plus eleven to six. So um for that one. Uh uh feature two. Um Josiah Taylor ends up with the win. We will talk about how that all went down. Um but Josiah Taylor gets his first win out of this whole deal. But they I mean they called the newspaper that night at the track. Yeah. But it's awesome. Did you see the picture that I posted of him and Matt? Yeah. So Matt, I I didn't at we're at the shop. We had no idea any whatever happened at the track had happened. You guys are out there fast. I turned around and I'm just like, oh, see you. I'm like, it's 8 30. I'm like, let's go wash and get out of here and we'll pull the races up, you know. And but uh yeah, I'm like, wow, and Josiah has gotten significantly better the last I'd say two years, honestly. And I don't say that because he's in a rage car, but it's no he definitely has. I mean Yeah, I mean, and and he's has the shittiest look. Like, now that I feel like he's you know, he kind of put himself in some position. I was just gonna say, like, you know, don't take this the wrong way, but he did some of that was self-inflicted, where now he's figuring out, okay, I can't put myself in that spot. I I think we all we've all been there at some point. Right. We all have. I remember, you know, costing some guys some races early on. 100%. You know, being sure being somewhere I shouldn't have, you know. And it's like, and you learn after the fact that you're just like, all right, this is what it should feel like. This is if something, you know, just awareness, I guess, more so than anything else. Right. But he's yeah, he's gotten they have torn up a lot of stuff this year. They've had a lot of good runs, a lot of mishaps, like a lot of bad luck. And you know what? He had to run second. I mean He had to be there. He had to be there to win the race. I mean, if it wasn't him, it was gonna be uh who ran third? Camden Vincent. Yeah, Camden. Yep. So it's like Kyle Free was up there. So yeah, because it was like Yeah, because Josiah, Camden, and Kyle were all pretty much racing each other for second at that point, and it was like they were in lap traffic and and kind of moving around and and racing hard. You know, Jake was checked out on everybody, but those three were like the race for second, third, and fourth was was on. I mean, Kyle's been doing a hell of a job the last couple of weeks, you know, and that's another putting that screen. Yeah, exactly. I'm just like, and he came out there wearing hot laps, and he's showing me the nose a few times, and I was just like kind of out for a cruise. He went he was hot he hot lapped. Oh yeah, he was out there with me, and I'm just like, he comes in, he's like, Hey, I was underneath you. I saw you. It's so funny because two weeks ago, he's you know, standing over where we stand, where we're all watching, which we're gonna have to have a chat about that, but because whoever the dickhead was that got me kicked out of my spot, well, I'm not kicked out, everybody else is. I'm just saying. But anyway, Kyle's over there and they're outlapping. I'm like, what are you doing? Wow. No, you don't hot lap. Don't need a hotlap. I'm like, when you start winning races, then you cannot hotlap. I said, I hotlap every time. Get in your car and get out of the way. Well, he's like, Oh, I don't want to have to prep tires again. I'm like, hotlaps ain't hurting your goddamn tires, bud. So I didn't know that he hotlapped, so I that's funny that he was hotlapping. He was out there. Um we were out there just because we got into some stuff the week before at Venton, which is a whole different deal. I mean, and it was just a a a misjudgment on my part. And you know, still that's what that's what's good, right? I mean and it sucked, but it's like, okay, we gotta shake this thing down, make sure you know we're decent and you know stuff's working like it should be. Yeah. To do that, at least my mindset when you go out there, especially at Boone, is like, man, when they say we're going green, you just gotta be on it. Right. Well, and here's the other thing, you don't want to tear up other cars in your heat race. Right. Or, well, just for one, how about your own car? Yeah. You know, don't tear up your own car, and you know we're all bull-headed enough to not give up our spot. I mean, there are some people that'll go to the back if they're fighting an issue, but most everybody doesn't. They're like, oh, we got it fixed, and then Well, and I look at it from the perspective of just having car confidence. And like, you know, if you're if you're going out there and you're like, man, this ain't quite right, you ain't gonna run with Mike Smith and Matt Av. You know, it's just not gonna happen. 100%. 100% agree. So yeah, pump, super pumped up. Josiah, we went, uh, him and I went tip to tip last night up in Fort Dodge. You come over, give me a big hug, and just I was like, where's this going? No, he's just excited, you know. And I really want to thank them uh because I had a big mishap on if you guys seen my Snapchat. Yeah, I dumped her out. Wow. So we've been, you know, moving in the shop, and Braden's like, I'm like, bud, all we need to do is strap it back and forward, and I tried half fastening. Oh, I didn't half fast it, I just didn't, I just strapped it in an L and thought that it would grab it, you know. And Braden's like, Bud, are you sure that's gonna work? I'm like, We're going a half a mile, bud. It'll be fine. We didn't make it 600 feet, and I was getting in my truck, and all I heard was a loud bang, and then all of a sudden I'm like, I thought it was just a trailer hit in like a pothole, you know. And the next thing I know, I look down and it's Braden calling me. He's like, Bud, we got a problem. I'm like I'm like, what? He's like, Luminarag fell off the trailer, but I'm like, oh that's a big problem. No. Like, because we pushed it on with the skid loader, you know? And I mean, it's you I can't move it myself. Like, it's they got that much shit in it, you know. Two of us can move it, but I come around the corner, bud, and I'm just like yard sale. It right right in Dean and Josiah's from Dean Dean's front yard. So Jen was mowing. She saw Jed mowing. Jen was mowing, and she goes, Told the boys, You guys better come out here and help Jonathan. He's got a mess going on because Braden and I were out there, and I'm like, oh my god. And Braden's like, see, bud, I told you, and I'm like, No, like, I know. Uh-huh. Yeah, them guys missed the boat. They should have been like, we're willing to forgive and forget, but we're taking some of these blue sheets. Don't have don't have blue in our trailer, but they that's why they switched to red and white. Oh, no. Yeah, there you go. Yep, yep. Forgot about that. But yeah, great for them guys. I haven't seen Dean yet, but uh, yeah, I saw him. And he was like, Yeah, he was like, you know, I we want to like earn what they've earned it. But oh yeah, like you have to be there. Right, and that's why I told him I was like, dude, like, you take them how you can get them, brother. You're there. I mean, I'm just saying, like, like you said, that he was racing with you know Kyle Free and Camden, and like it wasn't that it was just Jake Soccow was straightaway ahead, and then Josiah straightaway ahead of the second and third or third and fourth base car. You're in an A feature of the Boon Speedway. Right, right. That's all you gotta say. Good job. And and let's let's be honest here. Uh Jake Sockow's won every race but one at Boon Speedway. He ran third. Is that correct? Uh was that a couple few weeks ago, I think, or whatever. Blue attire or or something. Yeah, yeah. But I'm just saying, so when he's winning as much as he is, there's a lot of guys that are racing for second if he's in, depending on which feature he's in. Him being there definitely changes the complexion of things. Absolutely. Right. Absolutely. Anyway, Cody, go on. So no, you're good. Josiah uh wins that one. Camden goes a plus six to second, Kyle Free goes third, Jonathan Jensen goes fourth, and Randy Havlet goes top five. So um, like we said, Sacco did cross the line in first. Are we going into this? Is that where we're gonna do that? I mean we can we can talk about the results part of it, or we can wait and whatever you want to do. Well, I mean, I think that we should probably send it to the response. Let's get through the rest. Do you want to go through the rest of the results? Let's go to the rest of our results, and we'll go into break, and then we'll come back because I got some shit we gotta talk about. All right. Yeah. So let's just say this for now. Jack Jake Sacco gets DQ'd. Um, so that's what gave Josiah the win. Um, and then we go from there to the modifieds. Um, if I can find my that was a race right at the end. I don't know if you're there to see that or not. Yeah, dude, Jazz Baca, what a weekend, dude. He won all three races all weekend. He won four. Well, he ran four night. He ran second at Algona. Oh, okay. So he started his birthday weekend on Thursday. He's been running up there weekly. Holy shit. Yes. Go on, continue. So he wins Friday. So second Thursday. Yep. Friday he wins at Motown, wins Boone, Saturday, wins Fort Dodge on Sunday. Hell of a weekend. That's a pretty good weekend. Taylor's gonna be folding some extra shirts this week, folks. Yeah. Boone was a chess match right at the end there. I mean, and that's you know, between him and Todd. Did you guys watch it? Oh, yeah. So it literally looked like Chazbaca has a mirror in that goddamn thing. I'm not shitting you. And maybe he does. I I said the same exact thing because I walked over to Troy and Todd and I was just kind of talking to him. I'm like, dude, well, and because there's another thing too where it's like, there are a couple times Todd went hauling off into three and four and was using a part of the track that I would assume must look like this right at the top of three. And I'm like, I don't know how you held that thing on there right there. I mean, and you it like you said, it looked like the 75 had a rear view mirror because as soon as he'd get wound up and get something going, all of a sudden it's like protect. And it's just like he was just in the right place at the right time. And he was fast. I'm not saying he was going backwards by any stretch, but he just knew where he needed to be at that point in time. Hold on. We're not jabbing or saying that Chazboch has a mirror in there. I'm just saying if you watch the race, if you watch that race, that is literally what it looked like. I mean, it was a phenomenal race. Uh, you know, my dad, he's partial to Harris, you know, because he owned it and stuff, and he he went over and congratulated him, and you know, and just because of how great of a race it really was, you know. So uh great, great, great weekend, birthday weekend for the Baca. Yeah, really good weekend. Um, Todd shoot, runs second, but man, he was right there. Like if if Chaz would have just went and ripped the top again, Todd's throwing a banger. Oh yeah. Yep. Oh yeah. And but he got it woven up and um so he but Todd's dude, Todd's been so fast. They're on it too. I know. I we I mean, like, he's just uh Troy was telling me Saturday he comes walking down for the heat, and Troy's like, You gonna hot lab? And he's like, Yeah, I'm gonna hot lab. And he's like, Why? He's like, I like driving it, it's fun. Like when your race car is that good though, it is fun to go out. To get in the seat and just do it. You know, yeah, absolutely. I can relate to that a hundred percent. It's like this is why we're here. We're here to get laps, we're here to we're bringing my we're bringing our race car to a venue to to race, not just sit in the pit area. That was earlier this year, I think it was like our second or third week out, and I was texting Zach back and forth, just asking some questions about the car and stuff, and the last thing he said to me was just go have fun. And I'm like, go have fun. And I'm like, Seriously, I guess I should try to have some fun. And then I'm just like, this is pretty fun. Seriously. Like we Well, we just we get wrapped up in it so so much, you know. Um, you and I have had conversations uh several times this year, and it's like just relax. Yeah, seriously, like we're this last night we go to the We're both wound up from both ends of our of what we're doing. I'm telling you, you know. What's the deal? And then we we're both like, okay, we both gotta chill out. Right. Well, it's enjoy the moment. It's 6 30, the sun's still out, and we're over here pissed off because it's like the little things. Right. But uh Corey Salerman goes third, Ethan Roby, man, he's he's been fast this year too. Uh fourth place, Cowboy Ray goes five, um Jakister goes sixth, Isaac goes seventh, Chase Weimer eighth, uh Dylan Potter ninth, and Uncle Ronnie tenth. But when you look at when if you were to watch that race, I think first through ninth, like to Dylan Potter, was like, I mean, they were all pretty much right there. You know, Jazz and Todd were kind of class of the field, um, but like it just there's a lot of racing taking place at in that part of the field. Yes, you know, and it's it's just one of those deals where it's like a yellow could change, you know, the the makeup of it that much more when you have guys that are that close out there, you know, and and they know where they need to be. Yeah. Uh Boone Moose Lodge 104, IMC stock cars, Bob Daniels and Dosh Daniels going one-two was pretty cool. Right? That was pretty sweet. You had uh Bob ripped on the top and Josh on the bottom, and that's like where they want to be. Uh-huh. Both of them. Yeah. And like I said, Josh took the lead a couple times, and then the next slap, Bob would take the lead around the outside. I've been trying to tell Josh to get off that bottom, and he just down there, though. I you know, I appreciate how clean the 25 car Josh, he keeps that thing like uh immaculate. So I was in that feature. Yep. It was good, it was uh they ran a hell of a race. Yeah. So Bob Daniels gets a win, Josh Daniels goes second, Matt Meinicke, another third for him. I think he said that's like the fourth time he's gotten third this year. So not rocket. Yeah, yeah. Uh Maguire looked good though. He got fifth. Maguire DeYoung. Um, past five cars. So they're not to interrupt, they're in New Sharon, right? Or Montezuma, that area. They're like, this is our earliest we've been home all year. Seriously? Seriously. And they're like, I'm like, well, you're gonna come back, I'll save you another spot. I will let you know. Yeah, yeah. And you know, it's like you're I think it's probably roughly about two hours from there to Boone. But you know, that's just attributed to the way that the show's run up there, you know. Yeah. Well, I you know, I really think that what they're doing with uh with the B main and adding the second set of features in that session. However, Rod, I do have a request. Let's do like a regular farm session and not a B-main session because we're running more ere cars out there. Thank you. Uh anyway, but I do like how that is because it's like the segment, it's back to the it's almost back to the original OG, like this is what we're supposed to be doing. Yeah. Right. Right? Like it makes the show it flow like more efficient. 100%. And so with that being said, I do like being in the second feature because I was out of there at 8 30. Got there at 5. Right. Out of there at 8 30 while at the shop watching the races. So they double dipped me. Yeah, because I got paid to pit pass and then I paid to watch the hook line and sink. I that's how much I just love it. Yeah, and got the okie doke on. Yep, getting okie doked. Uh feature number two. Or wait, we haven't yeah, no, I got two. No, you do hobby stock feature. Well, feature two for the stock cars. Oh, yeah, yeah. David Smith wins, um, then makes a comment and asks me if Jonathan's mad. And I'm like, hey, bud, we gotta make friends because we want to come up and do it. We heard him. I'm just giving him shit. Have you guys ever been up there before to the compound? I have, yes. Uh uh. It's pretty cool. Yeah. I was up there doing a car for Doug. I think I don't know, it's been a few years now, but like just the layout and did they make you sign some shit too when you went in there? There was there was a lot of stuff that was. They were really worried about what I was doing. I was up there for Doug's wedding. But it's just it's just neat how you know you can kind of picture everybody working on their cars out there at the same time. Well, hold on. I've never been in that shop. Oh, okay. I was in the shop that they got married in. Oh, right. Alright. Or where they had their reception or whatever. And what I look what I the the bar that they have with all the shit in it, so cool. Yeah. That's where I immediately went when we got there. I'm like. Because that's what my dad has that shit too. You know what I mean? So I was like, I yeah. But anyway, sorry, Cody. No, you're good. Uh Rod Richards goes second, Cody Gustoff third, Hunter Smith fourth. Donovan Smith making a trip back up to Boone Speedway. Uh past those nine cars goes 14 to 5. Night. The old dynamite coming back out. I asked him, I'm like, where was Blair? Well, we're gonna go to Fort Dodge on Sunday. Because his boy starred racing, you know. I've been seeing him traveling around with that. But it was nice to see the old 35 back out, ripping, ripping around there. Yeah. Uh hobby stock feature number one. Oh, wait, there was only one. Yeah, that. Yeah, hey, whoa, hold on a minute. So this arises a question here. 37 entries. So a couple weeks ago, we had 38 cars. Because we ran two 19 car features. So there were some people that were confused on that. Like, what is it? What's the number? Is it 40? Is it 38? Is it 37? 37. Okay, folks, here's what I did learn. 37, you're on a B main. Yep. 38, you're running two A mains. Anything over 38, you're running two A mains. It's simple. Right. I mean, that's That's good to know. Because I was sitting there watching entries for ours, and I'm like, we're at 39 for most of the time, and I'm like, 1A. Yeah. I'm like, I'm capitalizing on those bad points. I'm like, well, we ended up we ended up getting to 40, I'm pretty positive. For the I think you're yeah, I think you're right. For that. Which I don't I I mean, I just didn't I was just like, oh shit. Nope, 39. Yep. You're right. 40 for stock cars, 39 for sport mods, so yeah, 38 must be the number. So um which makes I mean makes sense, I guess. You don't want to have cars, you know, I don't know. You don't want to have 15 cars racing each other in an A, you know what I mean? So I'm just gonna zip it. Yeah. So Braden Gifford. Brayden Gifford. Braden Gifford gets a win finally, and that's what I told him. I'm like, man, you've just had some some luck, man. We talked about it last or two weeks ago or whatever. It was like he goes to Marstown, blows up, comes to Boone on Saturday, and he comes by on the hook, the whole left front or right front ripped off the thing. Like he's been faster than shit. He just had some shitty luck. Uh-huh. Yeah, Matt Breedon goes second, Corey Vanderbilt goes third, Will Smith fourth, and Matt McDonald top five. So um Yeah. Joey Young goes plus fifteen. Twenty-two to seven. That's that's a pretty good run. That's a pretty stock run. Yeah. Uh Eric Knudson's been on fire here lately, but he had some not so good luck. Well, I talked to him last night at Fort Dodge and he's fighting something in his front end. Like, and he's like, Man, the car will just take off and like Oh, it definitely did on Saturday. It did on Sunday too. Oh, it did? Yeah. And he's like, I mean, Eric is maintenance is that thing. Yeah. Religiously. Sure. I mean, I I mean he's fast as shit everywhere he goes. And he's like, Man, I don't know what the hell is going on. He's replaced just about everything. And I'm like, well, until you change everything, you just don't know. So uh watched him do that uh last night too. Uh picked up one of his new uh the old push master. You guys seen them babies yet? Yeah, I have. Um it's uh well it's for guys that have like uh full panels, rear panels, stock car stuff. I mean you could use it for your sport mod or whatever too, but it's a Milwaukee or DWALT um tool that's like a port of power. Oh, okay. It's like a mini portapower. It's a mini portal. I saw that. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yes. So he uh he brought I bought one from him on Sunday night. Um and uh he was like, hey, you think you could throw me out a shout-out? And I'm like, eh, it'll cost you 400, but yeah, maybe so no, there's your free shout-out there for the pushmaster. Uh get a hold of the Knutson, Eric Knutsen there for all your needs on that. He's got the Milwaukee or the D Walt set up on there, and I tell you what, guys, it works slicker and shit. That looked like an SPs. Very, very slick. You can get the uh oh, what's that shit, uh 3D printed ends, or you can get uh the the harder ends or like the well, I don't know what are those, uh just like a die like form for whatever. Literally is like the little four-fingered uh thing for your porter power on one side, and the other side is just a round one with a flat thing with a flat top on it. It's a very cool unit. That is sweet. I've seen it, yeah, I said I've seen people using it. Yeah. Alright, let's go to break. Um yeah. Anything else in this segment? I don't think so. We'll go we'll go to break. We come back, we'll have uh we'll talk to Chris about what he's got going at Capitol and kind of his transition from the the go-kart stuff to to big car stuff and um his journey through sport modracing. 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Stop by and see us today. Moffits 4, home of the million mile warranty. Welcome back, race fans. Watermelons and wood chips presented by Central Iowa Diesel Performance, and uh back from the break, and we got a message from our uh esteemed colleagues up at Indy, and we got uh found a way to get it pulled up on the on the screen, but watching some races from Indy over here, which is cool from my perspective, because I can catch this out of the corner of my eye. But uh these guys are up here during uh just a few minutes ago sent us a video um during one of the farm sessions, and uh Gary, do you think should we give this fired up and see what they have to say? It's kind of loud, but what's up boys? It's Dane Live with Indy Independence Motor Speedway. Yeah, this is my first visit here, and to be honest, it's a recent little joint. Uh something like a buddy of hook about it on. You guys must be out of cocktail. You gotta be out of country. We're not gonna run out of cocktail. I made that problem. Alright, boys, we'll see you later. Alright, boys are up at Indy. First of all, it looks a little sunny and it looks like Colton's already burnt. Yeah. It's only the bare skin. Right. Have you been up there before? You've raced up there. I've raced up there, yeah. Yep. I went up there for the first time last week. And uh for the Denny Osborne Memorial, um, the Waterloo Auto Products guys, they're customers, and kind of want to go up there and support their deal, and Colton ended up winning, which was cool. Awesome. Right. I mean, that was that was just the icing on the cake. But we went up and uh Jacob and Jason Snyder, customer also. We kind of roped it into wrapping a car while we're up there, and they were kind of gracious enough to to let me stay and maintenance my stuff there and everything. And I mean the same deal, it's just they're there's good people all over this sport, and that's a perfect example of them, you know. And and the other thing was kind of like what he was saying about like where it's at. It's kind of like that uh oh brother art there. This place is just a geographic oddity, isn't it? Because Benton is like 30 minutes that way, and Indy is 30 minutes that way, and they're in Dunkerton. I'm like, well, this is closer than Boone Marshtown is to my track or my house. Right, yeah, right. Uh I've only raced in Indy once. We went up there for it's two hours from here. Um and I have no idea what that means or why what is that? Is gee, is that you? Oh. Alright, I'm like, alright. But we went up there, Braden and I went up there for the World of Outlaw deal. And they had stock cars as a support class, and we went out and man, it was clear up on the lip, and we said we were the fastest car there, and I'm like, I come and I told Braden, I'm like, bud, we're we're I mean, we're pretty good. We're we're two tents quicker than anybody, right? We might go on tour after this. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, we might go to the next World of Outlaw later on show. And uh we start like 7th, 6th, 7th, somewhere there. We did do the redraw, and I drove that some bitch straight to 21st. I was trying, I couldn't get I mean I was terrible. It's a very unique racetrack. And um I don't know, it's weird. It's like it's hard to explain it. Like I I don't have anything that I'd compare it to, and like that's kind of one of the things that like you know we really like doing is going checking out different racetracks and stuff, you know. We kind of you know, gypsy hop around, but like it it is a different mentality when you're racing on a surface like that, you know, and it's not good or bad, it's just we just gotta adapt and we gotta change things around. And if you know, if if you've never seen anything like that before, it can be a little daunting. It's so yeah, it's so different than what we're used to around here. Like so, like I can I feel like I can compare Stuart, Venton, Marshtown, Boone. They all they're all unique in their own little way, but uh Indy is just like a huge circle. It is. Yeah. So but it's like it doesn't feel like that when you're racing on it. Like it feels like you're going into the corner and then you're you're going down the straightaway and going into another corner, but uh you see the aerial views that IMCA TV's given us, and it's like a a a big circle and and like Spencer. It's kind of like a Spencer. I kind of felt like I was almost picked like just where we were racing at, like kind of where the preferred line was that night when we were there. I'm like, man, I feel like I'm picking up speed going into the corner, like a lot, you know, and then just kind of like how we were kind of pinching it off to get through there and stuff. And I mean the track, you know, props to Mike, the track was awesome that night, I thought. I mean, it was, you know, uh it was racy, you could move around. We, you know, had some yellows and we were able to pick off some cars and do some stuff and kind of adapt our driving or adapt my driving style while we were doing it. And that was the biggest thing. So I just I didn't feel like I was stuck in one spot. I felt like we could move forward and I could watch some of the guys around me do some things that race there weekly. We just talked about it a couple of weeks ago on the show here. But they've had some barn burners up there this year. Um I raced on it before they had put all the new dirt and everything on it. And I've heard uh nothing but positive things about this new dirt that they've got up there. Um The reason I'm not there, uh since the boys, you know, decided to go ahead and throw in there me being a puss. Uh we're we're almost moved into our new shop. Um okay, this is this is bothering me. We need it up there for that part, don't we? It's bothering me. I'm hitting it. Anyway, uh we're moving into the shop. That's that's uh we didn't race Friday either. Uh I wanted to go up and check out the sports park. Is it sports race? Sports park raceway. Sports park raceway. We murdered that like three times a day. Uh but that's why I'm not up there, man. I mean, I'm just I just got way too much stuff going on over the shop. So um it seems like they've got some really good talent there. I forgot to turn the timer on. But uh it's gonna be exciting to watch what's going on here a little bit later in the in the show there at Indy. Yeah. For sure. And uh well I wanted to talk to Burke about like his you know journey into to racing as we do with our guests. You know, um obviously I've known Chris for a long time. Him and I I think I think him and I were actually friends before him and Maddie were friends. I'm pretty sure that's right. Yeah. So you guys have been having Thanksgiving dinners for a while together. Yeah, that's that's kind of what I was thinking about. I'm like, should we bring in like something to this deal? Was it the play the whole time to go after the sister? No. Alright, okay. No, I wasn't. But Chris moved to town and and uh we were doing, I think you guys had moved like right when we started doing summer like summer wrestling practices or something when you guys moved over there, and that's kind of how we became friends, because we'd do those summer wrestling practices in high school together, and then Chris and I we'd travel, became buddies, and he you know he raced, went to a few tournaments together, some freestyle Greco stuff. Yeah. So we had common ground because he he was a racer, and so uh we would take the Grand Prix, had a 94 Grand Prix, the white two-door Grand Prix, and we'd take that thing. That thing had a nickname. Yes, it did, yeah. Yep. And uh we would take that thing uh all over, you know, wrestling and and having fun. And we had a one one uh we took a team camp to butte. Yep. And uh Coach is gone. Coach put this whole thing together where we were all gonna go watch the new Batman movie, like as like the first Christian Bale, like the best one. Yeah. And we all get there and uh coach has got the steel, he's got all these tickets for everybody, like we're all gonna do this as a team activity. And Burke's got like a two-leader. So if you're if I mean and I don't know, most this generation probably can't relate, and I feel like I'm an old man saying that, but it's like when people actually used to go to the movies, you know, and and I remember as a kid going to the movies, and it's just like you'd pull every card, uh, you know, anything you could do, like, I want a Coke with no ice so I could get more pop. I want you know, I'm gonna sneak the mic and ice here, I'm gonna tape this there. And uh, so I I don't even remember who I was with prior to that, but we go out and we're gonna we're gonna get some snacks and we're gonna bootleg them on in there. And uh I think I was just I don't know, I was just kind of feeling a little overzealous, and I'm like, I'm gonna bring a two-liter of coke in here. So uh and I don't remember summer, I don't think I had a hoodie on or anything like that, and I don't know how I even pulled it off, but like I got this two-liter of coke, you know, on my side or something like that. I get past the guy that takes your tickets and everything like that, and we're clean and clear. And of course, me just you know, being the dick, I'm just like, hey guys, check this out. Pulled her out before he even got into the theater, and then like this dude's just like and he's like, Oh my god. Get rid of it. But I went back and watched the movie. I mean, yeah, they didn't they didn't totally boot me for the night, but I was like, Well, I guess you can't do that. That's crazy. That's one of my favorite Chris Burke stories. He's gonna game the system. Yeah, got caught. Yeah. But uh you know, like I said, when when we met, you were you were still racing go-karts and still are heavily involved now. So kind of talk about how you got started with that and kind of where you're accepted today. Um so I really didn't even get into racing probably until I want to say about middle school. And uh with uh with the job that my dad had, we moved around quite a bit. So I was you know from Kansas originally. We lived in Illinois, Missouri, Iowa. Um, you know, actually lived in Iowa three different times, once in Ames, once in Boone, once in Danville, which is where I kind of got into racing, because you know, two minutes away from there is West Burlington, 34 raceway, right off 34, and uh wasn't really into racing that much, you know, was kind of kind of doing the skateboard BMX thing, just being a hoodlum type stuff. And uh I met my buddy Dusty Trail there, and that is his actual name, and it's spelled exactly like that. E-U-S-T-E-Y-T-R-A-I-L, Dusty Trail. That's great. And uh Dusty was a farm kid, and of course, farm kids have all the cool stuff. Right. I mean, you know, and when we're near townie, and I say townie, it was a town of a thousand people. Um so we rode our bikes everywhere, did all that stuff, and uh, you know, just kind of started hanging out with him. And we're we were in a class of like 30 people, so everybody knew, you know, everybody, and and the only thing really to do around there was to either go to the gas station, rent movies, or take popcans back or go to the racetrack. So started going racing with him and his stepdad, uh, Mike, uh Preem. And he Mike used to own some cars in that area, was really heavily involved, you know, kind of in uh in that limited late model type scene down there, and even some sprint car stuff because the cool thing about Burlington was at that point in time they had weekly 360s and they had weekly IMCA late models. And like that was awesome, you know. I mean, and not taken away from anything up here, anything like that, but I didn't grow up with modified to be in the top tier class. Well, right. I mean, and that was you know, and that's just those late models back then, the IMCA late models back then were badass. And they were, and you know, that's you know, you got guys like the Tollins or Terry Neal or Darren Miller and you know Burkdorf and all these guys that were like really fast and they had their 10,000 a win show at that point in time, and that was just you know, that was the season finale, and it was it was cool stuff. So Dusty ends up getting a go-kart. And uh, you know, there's two tracks down there, one outside of Donaldson, and uh actually another one just just kind of down the road from Donaldson a little bit. And I start going with them and kind of helping, you know, just doing knickknack stuff, like, oh, change of gear, clean air filters or whatever. And uh was just really lucky to be involved with those guys because it just kinda kind of just became a passion really right there. And I ended up um kind of trying to convince my parents, I'm like, I kind of need a go-kart, you know, and they're like, You got two brothers, and we're not getting you a go-kart. You know, if you want a go-kart, you're gonna have to go get one. And I'm like, Well, how do I do that? You know, and I'm like 12 years old at the time. While you're in a town of a thousand people, start dragging a lawnmower around. So I think uh I think the summer right before we started racing, I rounded up like probably six, seven lawns to mow. And I'm talking push mower, not anything special. And uh saved up money, was able to go buy a used go-kart, um, was able to get some help um on a motor and some stuff like that, just threw Mike and Dusty and them, and uh was able to pit out of their trailer and and start it and do it and everything. And I mean we had not a lot of money into that program. You know, we didn't have attack, which you know, on a go-kart, attack is everything, you know. And and nowadays, these these attacks, these you know, data acquisition systems, they use GPS, they can tell you, you know, map out where you're at on the track, show you your line, show you your where you're in and out of RPM and everything like that. And but at that point in time we're mainly looking at head temp on the motor, max RPM, change gears, do stuff that way. And uh so yeah, we raced pretty much the entire first year without one of those. And then the next year, we were my dad's like, hey, you know, it's kind of fun, you know, I'll buy you a go-kart. So we get a little bit nicer go-kart, click off a couple wins, and uh the thing about cart racing at that point in time, it wasn't the cage cart stuff, it was all flat cart. Yeah, um, and there's a lot more tracks. Uh, you know, we'd go across the river, you could go race at like Spoon River and stuff like that. You go into Illinois a little bit because I mean we're right on the border, and uh, you know, there's there's a lot of really cool people that were racing at that point in time, you know, that I've been able to watch kind of progress in different areas of the sport and stuff like that, and you know, clear up to NASCAR really, you know, and guys that you know you were able to build relationships with that you know I still have to this day. But so we're racing, and uh dad's job ends up moving up to Boone. So we're going to Boone now. And I'm like, oh, this is okay, whatever. And my dad's like, Oh, I got a racetrack up there, and I'm like, okay. So we're pulling into town, racetrack's right off the highway. I'm like, that's kinda neat, you know, you can see it and everything. And I think the first show I ever went to was the Memorial Day show or the the Monday of Supernationals when they had Dury Brothers, and I'm watching the Dury, you know, that show and everything, and I'm just sitting there the whole time in my head, just like, this is so dumb. Like, you know, I and I didn't like anything about Boone at that point in time. Like, I didn't like the way that they ran the program. You know, there was a guy sitting on a tire halfway in, halfway out of the infield. I'm like, where's the yellow at? You know, what's going on? Well, you know, hindsight's 2020, you you kind of see st see things from a different perspective. You kind of look at things in in retrospect and you're like, This is the way it's supposed to be done. This is the most efficient program in the country. You know, and and that's where kind of going back to the go-kart thing and stuff like that, you know, it's not it's not any one thing against any other track, but it's just the science that they have and the amount of work and the effort that they've put into this place here. Like, you know, we go out to whether it's Kansas, Nebraska, you know, some of these other places, and you just kind of see, you know, how stuff is out there. Not that it's good, bad, or otherwise, it's just different, and then you come back here and you're like, this is nuts, you know. You can set your watch by it, like just the way things work. But from there, uh I I uh moved to Boone, I've been in high school. Um we kind of got out of go-kart racing just because it kind of kind of became you know, cost it cost was kind of it was kind of inhibited a little bit, you know. It's just you're traveling a lot, you're going to a lot of different places. At that point in time, you know, you're unloading and you've got 12 to 16 sets of tires, and you're not racing 45 minutes down the road. You're racing eight hours away in Waquini or you know, outside of Kansas City, or you're going to Illinois, or you're going to Minnesota, you're doing all this traveling stuff, and it's no different than this. It's, you know, uh you can put money behind it, and the only thing that beats cubic inches is cubic dollars. So you're sitting there and it's it's not fun. I mean, just because it it felt like you know, we were kind of you know at a point where it's like we're just kind of getting outrun by you know, for lack of you know, better term, money realistically, you know, and and not that you know that that's any s you know, slide on anybody else because somebody had to get it somewhere, somebody had to put in the work to do it. Yeah. And it, you know, we just kind of phased out of it. But I didn't lose touch with racing. I wanted to stay involved in racing. So I kind of went from that to starting to help some people out, you know, just hey, I got nothing going on Saturday, I want to go to races with you, you know, I w I want to do stuff. And um was able to kind of start going racing with Bill and Joel Bashore and uh kind of learn some things there and and kind of hang out and try not to be too much of a menace or cause too much trouble. But you know, they were they were gracious enough to let me come with them and pretty tough to be a menace. Around them couple guys. Well, I mean, you know, Billy used to move a lot faster back in the day. He could throw a weapon on you if he needed to, you know. I I never had it to me, but I I mean I knew you know he could thump you if he got a hold of you. Right. Um and then uh I'm at a race with Dusty in southeastern Missouri, uh, Sykeston. And this is crazy, but uh maybe you guys have heard of this or not. They used to have a race down there called the Insane One, and it was a $50,000 twin go-kart race. Can you imagine that? $50,000. That's crazy. And so I'm down there and uh same deal just kind of helping out. And uh Matt De Young and Joel De Young and their boys are racing. Um I don't think it was the weekend of the of the insane one, but it was another race. And I knew they'd need some help because they had, you know, four kids racing, and they can't keep track of all of them. I mean they they can, but it's a lot easier when you got some some hands to come and you know come and corral stuff and wash tires and do things like that. And uh I can't remember if I went up to Joel first or Matt, but I'm just like, hey, I heard you guys might need some help. Like I'm down to go. You know, I I want to go travel around, I want to go see some stuff and kind of hang out. So started going on the road with those guys, and uh, you know, pretty much just did that for like probably the next four or five years or whatever was doing it all the way, you know, through through my time at DMAC in Iowa State, and I mean boy, that was some of the most fun I've ever had, honestly. You know, you're you're going down the road and it you know, it almost feels and and this sounds silly, but it's like you know, you're you're going the racetrack in the toader, which is pretty cool. Right. And you're it is and and then like the first time somebody's like slides the seat back and they're like, Hey, you want to drive this? And you're like, What? Like, you want me to drive this? And it's like, alright, cool. So like from there on out, you know, it might be 2-3 in the morning, you might be get cruising up to Kansas City on the way back, and uh, you're like, I bet this is what you know a LucasOil team, you know, I bet this is what this feels like going down the road, you know, just big rigging, doing that whole thing. And uh uh I n I knew I wanted to get a race car, like I but I knew getting into that type, you know, that part of the sport you were still gonna have to to to be able to fund it, and you were still gonna have to be able to learn because I didn't want to be naive to the fact that you can't just go jump in one of these things, and you definitely can't go jump into one of these things and expect to be in it long, like long term, unless you've got some help, and not just money, but like somebody that can actually sit there and tell you what you should do and what you shouldn't do, and you know, kind of walk you through how to fix things or you know, stupid stuff like this is how you set timing, this is how you do valve lashes, you know, and I and I think that's one of those things where it's like there's a lot of old school racers and a lot of guys that had been involved for a long period of time that you know when when they would, you know, I'm I'm using Bill for an example, but it's like somebody like that when they're willing to take the time and kind of like help you and like kind of kind of kind of get you to avoid some pitfalls and stuff like that. That like, you know, uh that there's probably a lot of guys that aren't fortunate enough to to have somebody over their shoulder, you know, to kind of to kind of show them those things. And so I was able to get a used car. I think the the first crate motor we got had like 90 nights on it, and I paid like $1,100 for it. And uh, we ran that thing for a year and and ended up selling it, and then you know, got another crate, and it was it was like the same time Cam was getting into it too, and I just I knew I knew that's you know it was fun. I wanted to do it. Um I I was not you know I I didn't have any illusions that like well we're gonna buy a brand new car next year, or we're gonna go buy you know two motors and we're gonna do this, and like kind of slowly over time I've been able to accumulate the parts, the inventory, the stuff like that. Yep. Man, people forget like that's like a lot of people. If if you're just getting into racing and you see, like there's probably people that look at Chris Burke, oh, he owns a business, he just he's got a full funded deal. No, people, we're still on a budget. Yep. Like I have a budget every year that, you know, that's why we have the race party. And like I tell everybody, it's like you come to my shop and I've got a whole toolbox and whole cabinet full of shit that I've accumulated that over the years, because it's like, okay, well, this year I'm gonna buy this, this, and this. Right. And then and then, or you know, you win a big race and you're like, oh shit, I'm gonna buy this cool tool or whatever, you know. How can we, you know, what do we need to make this a little bit easier on us? Whether it's you know, to take to to make stuff go a little bit faster so you can spend some more time at work. Because how long have you been how long have you raced a big car? I think when I looked at MRP the other day, I think the first time I entered a race was like 2018. Okay. And I think I turned a hand I think I maybe raced like three or four times or something like that. And then just kind of started doing it more and more after that. So you're eight years into this. Right. Yep, absolutely. Yep. And I mean it's the same deal where, you know, we were we were lucky enough to get hooked up with some guys that, you know, uh, you know, Josh with the edge stuff and everything like that, you know, another person that like I I probably wouldn't be racing if it wasn't for him being involved. Um, you know, and and now, you know, with with Nate, Listina, and them guys, it's like, dude, it's it's like we just, you know, we we feed off each other and we're able to, well, this is what we need to do, how are we gonna do it? All right, well, let's you know, dictate our time and figure it out and and go about it. And and the most important thing right now, and I think it's just because I've seen it with the go-kart thing, where it's just like if you have the mentality where it's not fun, why are you going to the racetrack? You know, there's other stuff you could be doing. It's you know, don't don't make it a punishment to go racing. Like, and right now we're having fun, you know, and it's it's kind of the mentality we've had where it's like, you know, yeah, yes, you know, I I think we're really competitive right now. I mean, you know, and we're we're in a spot, we're racing with cars, you know, that you really have to, you know, be on your stuff in terms of driving style and and things like that, and and just you know, just little stuff. Like when I tell people, I'm like, you know, you're going to stage and you're not even thinking about this stuff. You're already thinking about what you're gonna be doing two laps in, or you're getting a game plan in your head about like, all right, you know, this this guy's here, this guy's there, this is what the track looks like. You know, you're just kind of watching things, seeing how things are moving around, and you're not, you know, it you don't got the yips, you don't got anything like that. You're just you're just doing it. It's weird when you strap in how focused or just like you're trying to focus on you got a lot of surround, like sitting in the staging area, it's like I'm like trying to not over so I'm like flipping people off. We're at Fort Dodge last night, and this guy can see him taking pictures, him and his kids, so I just throw the bird up there, and his kids are like, you know, they're like, oh yeah, well, they come over the pit afterwards, and they're like, hey man, you know, we've seen you. But because you can get in your own own head real quick. Easily, you know, and that's what I mean. You you get locked in there and and uh get out on that racetrack, and it's just different, man. You like some you don't even have time to sometimes you don't have time to react to anything that's going on. You just have to do it's muscle memory, it's muscle memory. Yeah, I mean, and that's that's the thing. It's like you know, and and I a lot of our a lot of races, a lot of laps we turned early, we're at Boone. And like, I mean, whether you know that was a good or a bad thing, like I just kind of built a muscle memory where I'm just like, well, this is what Boone feels like. And then you go somewhere else and you're like, well, I can't drive it like that over here, I gotta do something different. And it you know, here in the last couple years, like we've I've wanted to like move around, go see different tracks, see different stuff. Because in the go-kart, my mentality was like, well, the only way to get good at this is to go to different places and do different stuff and race different guys. And you know, that way when you go back to a place like this, you you kind of you're like, well, this guy's here, he's doing that. I might be able to do this. Or I did this at this place, and this is how this worked, and and just try to you know bring some of that stuff back into the fold. Whereas, you know, and and nothing against the weekly guys or the guys that chase points and stuff like that, you know. I'd I'd love to have a track title at some point in time, you know, that's kind of a goal of mine. But it's there's something cool about going to a place you've never been to before. That's phenomenal. And racing a group of cars that you don't normally see because you know, and not to say that that like you said right there, you're sitting there and staging and you're like, oh dude, I got this guy right here and this guy right here, these guys, you know, and you're and you're trying not to beat yourself, you're trying to like fight it and kind of get around it. But if you're in, you know, North Platte, Nebraska, and you've never raced any of these guys before, they're all scrubs, you know, in your mind. Not that they are, because there are some really good cars out there, but you're like, I don't know what this guy's capable of. I'm just gonna go. Yep. I mean, he could either go in and drive clearing over your left front and up over the wall, or you could go in and turn and it'd be a side-by-side battle for the next eighths. You just never know. I people get so intimidated by Ricky Thornton's or or uh Jeff Bones or or the Tim Wards or Jeremy Mills, and it's like, guys, they they can get beat on any given day, um, any given racetrack. I mean, are they good? Well, yeah. Of course they are. They've worked really hard to get there, but that doesn't mean that you can't beat them. No, and yeah, and I think you know, it's it's one of those things that you start looking for, you know, because you can see it, people race each other differently, especially when you know what who's next to you and what's going on. And yeah, that's just kind of been a thing where it's like if you got confidence in your car, you're not pulling over for somebody else. No, you know, you're gonna race them. You're not not saying you're gonna try to wreck them or crowd them or do anything like that, but you're gonna race them. And if you trust them, and like the cars that we're racing with right now, you know, I I feel like that I've got all the comps in the world that, you know, for the most part, nine times out of ten, they're gonna leave me a lane, and I'm gonna leave them a lane, you know. And I'm gonna race with respect because the last thing I want to do is to cost somebody more time, take away laps, and cost them money and junk their stuff. Right because I know what it takes to put it together and get it there. Absolutely. And and sometimes it's a thing where you you circumstance happen, man. That's racing. It is a contact sport. Not intentional contact, but it it's uh you know, uh shit just happens and and but same thing, we've said it here on here a hundred times, and I will say it every time if I have to. You know, you quit caring about that stuff. Stay home. Right. You know, because you're you're costing other people money that you know, some people will miss a meal or two during the week just to go to the racetrack because they're that die hard about it. Yep. And I'm not saying that that's right or wrong or whatever. That's their discretion, that's their choice, that's whatever they want to do. But and and I I that's kind of a mindset that I have on other things too, like, you know, with the business and stuff like that. Um, you know, if we're doing race cars for somebody and you know it it's no different than building cars and stuff like that, you know, you're you want to get everybody taken care of as quickly as possible and do stuff. And there's some times where you're gonna be sitting there working on something and you're just like, Man, they're not racing for three weeks, like you know, I've got time, but you're like, that's it's not just a car, that's their car. That's what they're putting their time and their money, and you know, whether they're taking away from time with their family, whether they're like you said, you know, putting stuff together just to to buy wheels and tires, like y whether you're a racer, competitor, you know, a parts provider, like you really gotta look at each one as an individual case by case deal because I mean they're just as passionate as you are at the end of the day. Right. Well, another thing is too, is there's so many good people out there in this sport that are selling those parts or those products or those there's rap. I mean, there's just there's so many great people that are involved in the industry that do that. So if you want to run a business in this industry, you better give good customer service, you know, sell your product, come on your product. Absolutely, it does. I mean it does, and it's it's been tough, you know, and it's you don't have cars that's uh my dad always said it's like a vicious revolving circle. You know, there's drivers that leave certain places or companies. We all call them chassis hoops ganks. Um, they jump around and buy chassis, this and that, and try try to get the information, you know, and everything. And but you don't burn a bridge if you don't have to. I guess that's the way that I've always looked at it. You know, and I mean And what what's the point in getting, you know, if you get your toes stepped on by somebody, it is what it is. Just tell them, you know, hey, I'm gonna do this because XYZ. And you don't have to kick their dog or do anything on the way out the door. Right. We we it you might be back there in a couple years. You know, that's what I'm saying. Um that's and that's exactly where I'm going with this, is it's no different than every race car driver, myself included. Maybe not you, because you're a little more little more collared as far as being more professional at the racetrack. Um You're passionate. No, I forgot what I was gonna say. What were we just talking about? I was gonna bring this up. Him being collared. Yeah. About what though being professional. About at the racetrack. Business and customer. Hold on. I I got a sidebar. You might be able to think of it for a second. Yeah. Um, did you catch the cup race at all last night? Nope. Dude, like, that was one of the latest, it was Nashville. Hamlin picked, I think, Seabell's pocket on the end of that deal. And I'm sitting there, and the only reason I'm saying this is because I'm like, I'm wearing this and I'm like, I kind of feel like a spotter right now, you know, or something like that. Can you imagine if like you had a spotter on the track? Bobcat, two cars back. Right. 41 outside, hold. Yeah, old, right, old, bring her to the pits. Well, the funniest part that's registered now, the funniest part about the whole thing is that I unplugged my headset that night. And I apparently Damon's like, yeah, Mike was saying, don't do it, 69, don't do it. And I'm like, I didn't hear any of it. You know, and Thor Eastern's good part. Oh, really? Yeah, it's good. It's the like Thor and I raced sport mods together, modifies together, stock cars together. Like, it wasn't, I'm gonna show my displeasure, regardless whether I build cars or not. I don't give a shit. If you're gonna race me like that, then I'm gonna, you know, I try, truly try to race everybody as respectful and as clean as I can. And sometimes you just get the short end of the stick. It happens. And I've been on it, I've been on both sides of it, all of us have. I said a couple weeks ago that all racers are crybabies. I don't give a shit what anybody says. Every race car driver that's ever touched a steering wheel is the biggest crybaby fucker there is at points in their career. And I just don't, I'm just not gonna, I'm never gonna change. So I don't know. Whoever's out there You gotta be passionate. You if you're not going forwards, you're going backwards. Yeah, all the people that got me blocked, I love it. Thank you. There's we're gonna make a t-shirt because a guy said I was a big douche on a post today. I love that. Thank you. It's such great motivation. Um and this is my life. I have revolved my life. No different. It's an identity cruise. Yeah, I don't know what I would do without it. Seriously. I mean, I don't know what I I like I enjoy a lot of other things, but this is my I mean, I have a business evolved around it. I have my hobbies. It I don't do anything else. I mean, I mean I do, but you know what I'm you know what I'm trying to say. Like the majority of my time is with the racing stuff, so yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Take a breath there. Well, and you know, you talk about that, you know, having you guys obviously both have businesses that are are heavily involved in racing, but I'm sure you've gotten a lot of business from racing that's not race car related, right? We have, and uh, you know, it's kind of one of the things I'm you know honestly pretty proud about is the fact that, you know, we're able to bridge the gap with a lot of those guys and build a really good network, um, you know, not just in the state, but outside of the state as well, where you have guys that are you know either at the track as a as a driver or as a car owner or as a sponsor or something like that. Hold on, rewind for a minute. What and why did you get into what made you want to get into doing decal stuff? Like when did that start for you? And when did you when did you I think that's a good idea? I mean you glossed over that, huh? No, no, no. We have never glossed over that. I mean, I'm telling you. So when I was probably by the time that I was honestly getting into racing, even before that a little bit, like I did I mean, I've always liked cars and on most stuff and dirt bikes and everything like that, you know. I don't know about you guys, but back in the day I had, you know, motocross action, every Fox catalog, every, you know, CCS ride VMX catalog and stuff. And so I was sketching Ricky Carmichael with the Woodpecker scheme, you know, doing stuff back in the day. Because like that's you know, Supercross Motocross was kind of like what I really liked watching. Like that was my thing. And so I started drawing cars, you know. I think I told I told Denny Eckrich last year, I'm like, back when you used to race at Burlington, I'm like, I drew your late model a few times, and now we're doing your modified, or we're doing, you know, his boys mod now or whatever. Which is cool. And I'm like, it's just cool to to do that full circle. So when I'm in Danville and I'm getting into this and we're getting into go-kart racing, there's a guy that lives in that lived in West Burlington, Iowa, his name was Dave Anderson. Dave's trick painting decals, you know. That was the guy down in that part of the state that you went to if you wanted your stuff to look good. And uh I'd sit there at home sometimes, and before I even had a cart, I had a million sketches of what I wanted it to look like body-wise. And I'm talking Microsoft Paint. Like, you know, imagine doing something in that and how much time that took. And but I I had all the time in the world, man. I'm not doing anything. Right. Um so we moved to moved to Boone and I'm like, I know I want to do this, I don't know if I want to do it as a career or not. And I was able, you know, through your through your dad basically to go work for a company and uh, you know, start at the bottom and and sweep the floor and start playing with computers and start doing stuff like that, and eventually start doing race car graphics and and do race car graphics there, you know, basically through college and you know, through DMAC and through Iowa State. And then when I got done with that, I'm just like, well now what? You know, like what what am I gonna do? Like and and I guess like to rewind a little bit, like I change majors, I go to Iowa State, and I'm like, I kinda want to get into engineering, you know, or or you know, some kind of quasi-engineering related field. It sucks that Josh isn't here because he'd be like, so I'm doing that, I finish, and I'm sending out resumes, you know, uh want wanting to go work for you know in a manufacturing facility, you know, and uh the job Tiles are looking for, like I want to be like a quality engineer, I want to do continuous quality improvement and things like that. And uh we're we're at a party one night, and Cody and Maddie's uncle Tim comes up to me and he's like, hey, he's like, what do you think about starting your own business? And I'm like, huh? And I'm like, what are you talking about? And he's like, seriously, he's like, what do you think about it? And I'm just like I'm like, I could do it, I guess, you know. And thankfully he asked me that early in the night because I wouldn't have remembered it if he asked me that. And uh so I remember, you know, next day talking to Maddie and I'm like, I think we're gonna start business. And you know, from there we were So you were you were already in the family at this point. Yeah. Yep. Yep, and we didn't go over there. Sorry. No, no, it's all good. I'm just giving you shit. Yep. And uh so we started Capital Signs in 2018. Um, Tim, uh uh, some other you know, partners that invested in it and stuff like that. And uh man, you talk about drinking from a fire hose, and I know you've been in the same position. It it doesn't matter, you could have all the equipment in the world, you could have everything in front of you um laid at your feet, but you still gotta manage the thing and you gotta do it and you gotta do the work, and you there's so much behind the scenes stuff that you know you just you don't take into consideration. And one of the things that I tell myself or that I've told other people, I'm like, if I could go back in time, knowing that I was gonna start a business, I would have gone and got a major in psychology, just so I could understand how to communicate and you know, oh right, deal with people better and and be better, you know, not just you know, from my my point, but just to kind of you know just to kind of manage people and just to kind of understand people more because that's such a huge part of running a business that you know just because you can put a product out doesn't mean that you know you're gonna be able to sell it or that you're gonna be able to put yourself in the right room with the right people. I feel sorry for Braden and Matt a lot of the times. Dude, I mean I I it it's tough, man. It is, it is very tough. It's so tough and like Because you have a goal in mind and you're like, this is what we need to do today. And we just need to figure out to how to get from point A to point B. And you know, you're like, I know we need to do this better, but we can't stop right now and figure out a way to do it better. When really that's what you need to be doing. Right. Right. Whether it's making a process more efficient, whether it's, you know, getting input from somebody and saying, All right, well. Yeah, we were able to do a million of these, but we had to redo like a handful of them. Like, how do we get to the point where we don't have to do that anymore? Right. Or, you know, this person put in forty hours this week and then put in 80 hours the next week. What happened? Like, you know, it's it's there's so much. It's there's something, you know, and you're and you're sitting there sometimes and you're like, alright, you know, and and not, you know, there's a million things that can stress you out and stuff like that, but every now and then you'll just have one of those, you know, kind of come to Jesus moments where you're sitting there and you're like, Man, there's people that rely on me to run this business and to do this. And that's just a whole, you know, when you come to that realization. It is a completely different mentality. Yeah. It really is. There's days that I I wish that I could just walk in and just punch in. And I and I I try to be really lenient just because we're a ra I mean we when it when we crunch, everybody's crunching, everybody does a great job. And but there's like when we want to go racing, we're all racing. And our our deal is a little bit different than like your rap stuff as far as when it comes to that, because the product that we're building, we're trying to promote that. You know, and your promotion is how great the cars look. Yeah, I mean, for for uh, you know, racing side of things and stuff like that, you definitely want to set yourself apart. Yeah, I mean, there's so many good people out there that are doing that right now. I mean, there there are artists and and guys that are doing raps that are so talented coast to coast. Car building as well. And I and I like to, you know, and even with those guys, I I like to talk to them. I like to, you know, if they need something from me, if I need something from them, you know, keep open lines of communication, stuff like that. Like we're competitors, you know, you can be a competitor on the track and you can be a competitor in business. But sometimes, you know, there's some mutually beneficial stuff in there. Yeah. And, you know, same deal where it's like you don't want to burn bridges. Well, I don't, you know, I don't want to start off on a bad foot, wrong foot with anybody. Yep. So 100%. But yeah, I mean, you know, Tim Tim was the catalyst for everything. And uh, you know, there again, there's there's been, you know, probably four or five people in my life that have kind of got me to the point where I'm at right now. And, you know, it's not like a you know, believe in fate type thing, but it's just like if you know, if this guy wasn't here to steer me in this direction, I don't even know what I'd be doing right now. Honestly. I mean, and you know, and he was so so crucial as a mentor, you know, and and it's not like I was hanging out with him every night or doing anything like that, but it's just like if I need something, like I remember so we started in 18 and COVID happens two years later, and we're running a business. We we just started a small business, and I'm like, what does this mean? Like, you know, like how's this gonna work for us? Like, you know, because you're you have so many things going through your head, you're like, are we gonna have to shut down the shop? Are we gonna am I gonna come to work in two weeks and all of a sudden nobody's gonna be ordering anything? And you know, all of our uh commercial accounts, you know, they're gonna be tight or something like that. And I remember calling him one time and they were at a a trade show, and uh I'm like, dude, I don't know what to do. Um he's like, Well, what do you mean? He's like, just keep doing what you're doing. You know, right, just get up and go to work. We'll figure it out. And I'm just like, alright, we'll figure it out. And I remember I remember going around, you know, that summer, that entire year, Des Moines, you know, Altoona, that that, you know, Ankany, that area, and the interstates are empty, and there is nothing going on and nothing moving, and we're still doing decals, and we're still doing graphics, and we're still doing, you know, commercial stuff, racing stuff, everything. And I'm like, this is so weird and so eerie. But yeah, I mean worked out though, didn't it? Uncle Tim's favorite phrase was we'll figure it out. I mean, um, well, even on that, you know, that door of Isaac's that I brought in after he had passed, they put we'll figure it out on the bottom of the car. Like, it was just uh you'd never he'd always find a way to like make you calm your nerves. He could. I mean, and it's you know that's a quality. No, I mean but but you could, you know, he's one of those guys that you know I'd say he was, you know, a problem solver, you know, even for problems that he didn't even have himself. Like, you know, people could bring something to him and you'd think the world is on fire, and it's just like, okay, you know, right? Well, where are we at? Right. What what do we need to do? How do you know what do we need to do to fix this? What do we need to do to move forward? And it's just like, you know, the the the calmness and just you know how concise he was on certain things, you know, just like he'd tell you the truth even if you didn't want to hear it. Oh, a hundred percent. And I remember a conversation, I think I was with you, it was after we went to that wrestling we went to that uh deal that Iowa Wrestle had at the fairgrounds. And we ended up going to Tim and Wendy's after and had a conversation, and there's a lot of things that were you know, like you said, he'd he'd tell you what what you needed to hear, even if you didn't want to hear it. And you know, but he was a lover he was a lover racing too, which is awesome and just made everything that much better. Right. Right. And uh heavily involved in that and and yeah, but now what a what a great guy and um you know just uh like you said, helped you guys get going, and now you I mean what you guys have going now is pretty pretty awesome. Definitely proud of it. Um you know, same deal though, where it's like the job's never done and stuff's you know, it's it's always you're you know I used to kind of think with this mentality just like alright, let's let's get this stuff done and be done with it. And it's just like it's never gonna be done. Right. You're always gonna be doing stuff, you're always gonna be moving forward, you're always there's always gonna be another job, there's always gonna be something else to tackle. So, you know, and then and just kind of shifting that mindset and stuff like that, you know, it's it's so parallel to racing, you know. I mean it really is, but yeah, I mean definitely definitely something that's kinda kind of shaped me when, you know. Yeah. Right. Well, and moving on from that, um what how many years has it been? How many years? Last year we rained out a boon, right, for the the topless. Um but how many years have we done this deal? I was trying to figure that out the other. I think it's like three or four. Yeah. Three? Yeah. Yeah, I think. Uh I ran topless in my mod. So what was your last year in mod? Because that's probably the first year we did it. Twenty my last year in mod? Yeah. Twenty-two? Yeah. I bet it was. No, twenty-three. It was twenty-three. So yeah, this would be the third year. You know, and it's been more than that. There again, that was another deal where I'm sitting there and I think we were, you know, in one of the group chats one day and we were talking about stuff and talking about specials, and you know, I I've always kind of wanted to do something, you know, not just to kind of get the the name out there and stuff, but kind of, you know, kind of get back to the racetrack, get back to the racer, get back to our our our group of and granted we're just you know we're sport modified special and stuff like that. It's not to say we don't appreciate everybody else that buys decals from us, but um the topless thing. I remember the first time I saw a topless race car, and they used to have like the Altel 100 and stuff like that. And you know, I remember flipping through a JR motorsports catalog one time, and kind of like you, I wasn't, you know, I could read, but like I was way more into the pictures too. Um and there was a car I honestly don't even know who it was, but you know, it it stuck out to me because of the graphics on at first, but it was a guy from Texas that had it was an outlaw mod and it was topless, and I'm like, that thing looks pretty sick. And then, you know, just kind of some of the stuff over the years with the late model thing and everything like that. I'm like, why don't we do something like that, you know? Just change it up just a little bit. Because there's only so many, you know, kind of I don't even know what you want to call it, like plo not ploys, but like, you know, you could have an Australian pursuit race, you could have uh, you know, the King of the Hill thing, you could do this, you could do that. I'm like, let's just make it topless, let's see if we can do this. And I remember floating the idea out there, I was lucky enough to get, you know, Boone and Marshalltown to to do it. And I remember, you know, uh, and I get it, people don't like change, you know, when it comes to especially to their race car, you know, they don't want anybody telling them what to do with the thing. And I'm like, and I I I remember saying I'm just like, if you guys think that, you know, you're gonna have a mass mutiny on your hands, like I get it. But uh, I think after the first couple years, you know, guys, hey, we're just pulling sail panels, we're pulling a roof off, we're pulling eight pillars, and we're going. I mean, you're talking we put four rivets in each sail panel, so eight, you got ten, twelve rivets, and four bolts in your roof and you're racing. Yep. Yep. And I and I and they say, 'cause I know like I know there's other places in the country that have done this and other IMCA tracks. I know Bakersfield used to have like a pretty consistent one out there. And uh I remember, you know, uh them guys kind of talking and and trying to get you know kind of an idea of like what this would look like. And um I don't know if it was Brett or somebody saying, like, well, you know, it will slow the cars down a little bit. Like it'll it'll change, you know, kind of the complexion of the racing a little bit, just because I mean you're taking a ton of down force off. I mean, and it does, but I think more so than anything else, from the driver's point of view, you're like, kind of feels like a go-kart. Right. Like it's weird, you know, it's definitely weird. It's so it is definitely different. I mean, when you get into the mindset and you're racing, you're just racing, but like when you pull out there, even when you're getting in and out of the thing. When you're watching it. Right. On the out like when you it's just like when you can see somebody actually sawing on the wheel and moving their head around, it looks like those, you know, old videos that like they have at the sprint car Hall of Fame where you're watching guys driving, you know, sprint cars without cages on them, and they're just like, you know, sawing the thing, and you're like, holy smokes, that's what that looks like. Right. Them guys were a different breed. Ballsy. Holy smokes. Yeah, so this weekend is the the twin topless for the sport mods and modified badass trophy over here. Yeah. Yeah. Just saying. That's that was last year's with the rain out at Boone. We only got Marshalltown in, but I figured I'd bring that sucker in there. Um, so you gotta keep the trophy then in your garage? Like, I got two of them. I got the mod one and the sport mod one still there. So I figured I'd bring it to you guys as some wall art right out of the button. Yeah. I'm just gonna say, so you like kept both of them? Really? What am I gonna do? What am I gonna do with them? Just put an X on it and say 2026. Yeah, you should just take a marker and just go and then put a six. You know, a sticker guy that can cover that. Yeah, wait a minute. I was just gonna say, but can't you just uh put a six in a cover up a weird? He's pretty good drawing at drawing. They're badass. I mean, I I wasn't ever lucky enough to win one, but they're a badass trophy. I always enjoyed doing that. We actually uh there was some mention about stock car guys, you know, look like why don't you just do all the classes? Well, that'd I that'd be really weird. I just don't know. So I s you know, you take that stuff off of a stock car. How are you gonna do it when you get back to like you know the B and C pillars on it and stuff like that, the top of the quarters and everything like that? Oh yeah. And then you're gonna have, you know, I know they're different now, but like you've got a huge cavity. You don't have a deck that goes the whole length of the thing. Um well and the mods and the sport mods have spoilers, so it kind of looks like the late model thing a little bit. And it makes the sport model one look so much cooler without it on there. Right, right, right, right. Um, yeah, but and I think yeah, I it was probably two, three years into it, or you know, it was after our first year. And I remember Troy Shoot coming up to me and saying, Hey, we really like, you know, this is one of my favorite races of the year. Yeah, like we appreciate you doing this. And I'm just like, well, if that guy likes it, I don't really care what anybody else says. Right. I'm like, because he watches way more racing than all of us combined, right? Right. Yeah, if Troy's put his stamp of approval on it that, yeah, you're doing something right. But uh so it's what take us through. It's a thousand to win the uh draw, redraw, yeah. Um, you know, still track points, thousand to win for sport mods, twelve hundred to win for mods. Um they I'm trying to remember exactly what it is, but there is a guaranteed start money for it. Um and the one thing I don't know if I at least to my knowledge, just the way it works, but there's only gonna be one feature per class at Boone. Yeah. There will not be double features for this. This weekend? Because it's a special. It's a special, and Chris brought the money for it. That's what I've been told. Yeah. Wow. Okay, so wait a minute. If it's a special just for modified stock or modified mod lights and mods. Sport mods. Sport mods and mods. Mod lights are doing their own thing. But they are going topless, from what I understand. Yeah. And they're generating their own prize money and everything like that for it. Yep. So I know Josh had talked to Ben, George about, and they were they were uh Austin Gray sent me a message. They wanted to do it. They'd asked about doing it last year. Um, but it sounds like they got everybody on board with their um. Boy, that's gonna be a little different, isn't it? That's gonna add a little bit of something too. I think that I think that's cool. Yeah, yeah. I think that's cool. It's gonna be uh summer, man. Take the top off. Yeah, you're right, right. Yeah, no, it's gonna be sweet. I think uh like I said, this is a cool race that that we do or have done the last few years. And um, like Chris said, there was a little bit of, you know, like people don't like to change, right? But everybody participated and it's always been a fun, just something different. Yeah. And it's something cool for the, like you said, for the fans to see. Fans, photographers, stuff like that. I mean, just to see a different looking car. I mean, it's the same car, but it's different. And you can see the driver, and you can see, I mean, and that's one thing I always thought of them was like, man, if you get some really cool photos of some guys, you know, at attitude, you know, setting the car, doing stuff like that, and looking, you know. Beings that we do have you on the show, I know that I've been not confused or just never even really known. You are allowed to put something directly over the the head of the driver, right or wrong? So what I understand, and that's this I've kind of left that to the tracks to kind of determine that, but what what they've done in the past is you know, put some kind of like a netting or a mesh or something like that up there. Like I think somebody's put chicken wire up there before, which I get, that's fine, you know. Um, but you're not capping off the top with like a piece of aluminum. You're not it's topless. Right. There's no tops. They they don't they don't do that in the late model stuff. Right. I mean it is completely open. It's completely open. And they don't have a window net. Yeah, and they don't have a window net, right? Like, I don't feel like there's any safety issue or anything going, and I just know that there's some confusion on that because there are some people that do put that mesh or whatever they use on top of their race cars. Yep. Um, so I wanted to touch base on that just because I didn't know really what the rule was. We have seen, I remember the first year somebody tried putting aluminum up right. A couple of guys did. And haven't seen any BloomQuist Lexan window nets or anything like that. Right. But you know, the thing of it is is um you see a lot of guys get upside down and you don't see stuff coming directly in the driver's compartment. Right. So uh good to know. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Looking forward to that. And then uh uh same style trophy. Uh I'm gonna change them up a little bit. I'm gonna change them up a little bit. Yep. You'll you'll see them Friday. Okay. All right. I I'm gonna bring back the poker chip thing too. I think you know, we've been doing that for a while. Hey, the poker chip thing's cool. I I know, and that's for a different reason entirely because you're drawing it into a bag and pulling out your number and you're not hitting a button. Well, and not that I care either way, because I mean I've had just as good, you know, draws from hitting a button or having somebody else do it the computer as I had myself, you know, pulling one out. But it is different, it is cool when it feels like you know you're you're putting fate in your own hands. So we're gonna do we're gonna do a regular draw down in the infield, or are we gonna do like a um you know, it just depends on how many cars, obviously, right? Starting a 24-car field for each night at Marshalltown and Boone. Gonna do a are you just gonna have the tech grade do the draw? How have we done that in the past? I'm trying to remember. I think because normally I just I would give you like Josh or whoever like the bag, and like at at the sign window, that'd be your initial draws right there. And then in the infield, I think that they've probably done the same thing, haven't they? Yeah, I can't I know I think we did it on the front stretch one year too. That's right. Yep. So I remember last year because I've never ran good at this race. Ever. You know, of course. You put your name on something and you're gonna look like an idiot. And we go out, and I think we ran second in our heat last year or two years ago at Boone, and Logan Anderson won, and I stuck a valve. I'm like, I'm in the redraw, I'm I'm there, I'm ready to go. I can't race. Yeah. So I'm like, well, alright, whatever, I guess I'm gonna go over here for this thing anyways. Like but yeah, and we did it, we did it on the front stretch. Yeah. Yeah. So pretty cool event. Um have that coming up this weekend. Um one thing I did want, and I did see a pretty cool commercial that they put on um the the race over here on but uh Harris Clash. I can't see it. So Harris Clash and rub it in, yeah. Harris Clash coming up um on the 23rd. I hey, I'm telling you what, the Harris Clash at the Boon Speedway be the second year for the IMCA stock cars in that event. Um it just it's I I with the amount of cars that have been coming to the Boon Speedway, I foresee big, big car counts on June 23rd for the 36th running of the Harris Clash, correct? Yeah. Because last year was 35. I'm pretty sure last year was 35th. I gotta look now. Um Okay, hurry up, we're on the timer. Yeah, I'm trying. But uh longest one day. The longest running one or longest one day. Oh, it's the 35th annual. This one's 35. Harris Clash. Uh longest yeah, 35 years of running. Longest show. Thank you, Garrett, for that information. And all that stuff's on HarrisClash.com. I did just register. I seen that they posted that. It's online, the registration for that. Uh it was probably maybe even a week ago already. But get on there, save yourself some money by getting online and registering for the event. Yep, get on there, pre-register. It's all like I said, it's all on HarrisClash dot com. And uh man, I'm looking forward to it. It's good getting here. Question is, is you know, last year there were 280 cars. Is that what it was? Something like that. I mean, you we could almost see we could almost see maybe 300 this year, I think. Um just because of the hype up of it, you know. I just feel like that's one that pretty much everybody I know puts on their calendar. I mean, it's not even a question. Right, yeah, it's a clash. Yeah, seriously. Um doesn't matter if it's you know, even in years past, if it was like Knoxville or Webster or Boone or whatever, it's like that's just you're going to that race. It's literally just gonna say that. I've been to so many Harris Clash races at all of those places that you've said, and they have been magnificent. Yep. They have been absolutely magnificent. Um last year, uh, you know, the racing was great too. I I mean it's I'm pumped up for it. It's a crown jewel. It's a crown jewel, and I'm pumped up for it, and I'm really pumped up for it because it's half a mile from my shop. Yep. Can't beat that. Can't beat that either. Makes it a lot easier. Yes, it does. That's for sure. Um, but yeah, so that's coming up. Um and we'll have to get Bob on here at some point. I know uh we were talking about it um get the get more details, and I know uh I talked to him the other day and he's got a lot of cool stuff. Obviously, they work really hard at getting a lot of good sponsors and doing a lot of stuff and and making it making it big big, you know. So uh last year there was 71 sport mods, 81 stock cars, and 79 modified last year. So there were more stock cars than any other class. Yep, two more stock cars than modified last year. So for their first year, second year, I think it's gonna be Sploder. Um, I mean we're already getting four so imagine this, we're already getting forty or not we. The Boon Speedway is already getting forty stock cars weekly right now. So if they can't pull in forty more cars for three thousand dollars to win, I don't think that'll be a problem. I I don't see it being a problem. Especially with it being the second year, you know, people kinda um but some people were pissed about it coming to Boon Speedway. Right. You know, just because I'm just saying people were pissed because it's like, oh, Boone gets another special event. Well sucks to suck sometimes. Yeah, well, just I don't mean that in a bad way either. I'm just saying. Right. Sometimes things happen for a reason. So I think like has has it always kind of moved around though, like way back in the day. Yeah, before it was at you know, even at Kville. Like it was a couple other places too prior to that, wasn't it? Yeah. I mean it was I think they had it at Mason City, I believe, even a couple years. Oh yeah, Deer Creek. I always forget about Deer Creek. Yeah, yeah. It's moved around quite a few times. So um yeah, looking forward to that. Bumble Bumblebee Nationals are coming up. Yeah, Bumblebee Nationals. I was just talking or Logan was texting me about some stuff on that. Yeah. Hey, front wheel drive guys, this is your chance here to to prove that you're gonna promote this this event. And I mean it could potentially you just never know. It could potentially turn into maybe a weekly front wheel drive class at the Boone Speedway in 2027. If they're picking up a bunch of cars for this event and they support it and and come to it. I mean, I think uh Dude, they guys put on some good racing. They put on some good racing. It's fun to watch. It is. It is. And you know what? I think it'd be an awesome addition to Boone because it'd be another class that you could put in there in between, you know, how they use the hobby stock skinny tire to kind of shoot. Yeah. I think it I think it'd be great. I think it'd be a good uh good addition. So here it is. Uh I by the way, the new nose pieces for the front wheel drive cars are badass. I know I think they are yeah, they're cool. They are so cool. Yeah. But what's up after that? Really, well, the North Dakota tour. Yeah, cat on tour. I'm going. I'm gonna go check it out. I was just telling the boys today, I said, man, last time we went and did that, I spun out twice in hot laps, and then ripped the left front off on a tractor tire on the last lap running dead last. Yeah. Hoping for a little better. Um the topless twofer coming this weekend. Um June 13th, we have the Odega Dash, Josh's Hobby Stock Dash. Odega Dash. Yep. Uh the 20th is the Hawkeye Challenge and the Sprint Kings. Oh, I forgot about that. You got some sprinters lined up. Yeah, I just talked to Logan today, so um trying to get that all dialed up, and then yeah. Here's Clash, and so pretty much here in like two weeks, or actually this weekend, there's special events coming on because then you got the Sloop to Veterans after that, the third week in July. You've got I mean, you're gonna then we're into August and we're almost to supernationals already. It's pretty crazy. Time flies when we're having fun. I mean, I'm just saying. It's uh yeah, it's going fast. It's exactly uh what sixty-eight days from now? It's June 1st. No, it can't be that many. He's doing math over there. Not good. You mathing? I'm mathing. So but uh anyway, should we go to a quick break? Come back, we'll do question of the week, off it's mayhem. We did get it. We guys are gonna shit. It's actually 67 days from praise. That is target. But I was close at 68, just by guessing. Yeah. Come on. Yeah, yeah. His math wasn't that that far off. Um we got a box to open up. So we did get one sent to the house this week. So for from who? Another unboxing. Can't tell you. What do you mean you can't tell me? The name's on it. I don't know. Actually, I don't know. I haven't really looked, to be honest with you. But uh, got a box to open. So we'll do that when we come back. Um Yeah. You've been watching Watermelons and Wood Chip. We'll be right back. Welcome to the Adobe Lounge located in Boone, Iowa, at 915 West Mamie Isawer. Our hours are Monday to Friday, 1 p.m. to close, Saturday and Sunday, noon to close. Come enjoy some of the strongest drinks in town and the best homemade pizzas around. Whether you're stopping in to relax, meet friends, or grab a bite, the Adobe Lounge is the place to be. Is your rig ready for the haul to the speedway? Or are you fearing a DNF before you even reach the track? Keep your truck and trailer on the road and out of pit lane with Housebe truck loop. 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So we'll have to this is gonna be a first run for us on this. So um we'll send it up to the beautiful TV, G. Mob Light. And uh I run weekly at Marshall Town Dune, and I'm here for a mob light minute. Hearing a lot of talk lately about the mob lights, biking it up or flipping. Um also been hearing that uh it's a track issue, might need address. I don't I don't believe any of that. Uh the track doesn't have too much red in it, the tracks are not too rough, the tracks we're getting this year are very competitive, the same as what we have had in years past. We're gonna have some tracks for us. I do believe there are a couple factors to uh the mob lights biking up. Uh one of them being we have a very competitive field. We have a lot of very fast cars uh from previous years that are still out there, and we have a great young crop young kids or newer drivers that are uh really fighting their own out there at speed and and battling for wins right now. Uh it's forcing guys to find that edge a little quicker. And one of the issues I think to avoid biting up is giving the war jingle. The war right here, side bike. Some is good too much, and you bite up a little bit of a hole in a rough spot, car doesn't like it, it bikes up because you didn't think it was there, car bikes up. Hot bikes naturally will bike up easier than other classes. Uh we are a smaller, narrower, narrower wheel-based car, uh a lot lighter than other cars. Um it's a it's a very small window to find that speed versus uh too much too much angle, too much side bite, and uh uh bad stuff happens. There are ways you can address that. You can add a spacer to your right here, you can loosen the cars up, you can uh move the rear end over. There's a lot of different things you can do to help prevent biking up. Thanks for coming in, my mobite minute. I feel like that's pretty cool. Pretty good explanation. Um I mean he thought about giving away some information there for a minute about like how what you could do here and there. How much is too much? Right, right, right. I mean, yes, great, great video. I mean, I I I think that uh a lot of people wonder that, you know, because the mod lights there could be well, Saturday night, wasn't there a f a rollover in the first couple laps, or was that two weeks ago? Two weeks ago. Two weeks ago. Yeah, two weeks ago. Um Obrent was that's right, the one that that biked up, and then you had Austin Gray biked up on his own here in that heat race a few weeks back. Um but uh yeah, no, it's a good explanation, and and I mean with those barred cars, it's kind of the same way with the I would compare it, I guess, to I mean I've seen it in the sport mods too, because they're a little more simpler um deal, but yeah, you get a panard bar buried on that thing, and and I've seen them like those cars obviously have a wider wheelbase, but I've seen where they'll hop. Yeah, like they're not gonna bike up per se, but they'll get they'll hop, you know, in the corner. We've we've at we've seen them bike up, we've seen Ben Cates bike up at uh Harris Clash. You guys remember when he did that when he and just flopped over and just flopped on the top of that thing? I mean, so it can happen in a big car. Um you see these guys, they do a wheel hop and they're upside down, you know, like the whole I think they only have to weigh twelve hundred and fifty or is it thirteen fifty? I'm not gonna go. I think it's twelve or thirteen fifty. That twelve hundred and fifty or thirteen hundred and fifty pounds these guys got to weigh. Um like I said, being able to run one of those cars on Saturday in hot laps was a really cool experience because really put it into perspective, like they're turning just as fast as lap times or faster than the modified. I've always heard historically like they're just faster, you know, and that's just you sit there and think about it, and I'm not in that class, so I really can't comment on it. I can't put myself in their shoes, but you sit, you're like, this is the tire that you have, this is you know the power that you have, and just with that combination, you know, you just get a different style of racing than anything else. I mean, short of going out and putting a big right rear on it, like a sprint car or something like that, you know, which you're not gonna do. Like, I mean, you you got what you have and you gotta adjust with you know what you're doing trackwise to try to prevent that or try to you know alleviate it a little bit, I guess. Right. Yeah, I mean if you have an opportunity or know somebody that has a mob light and they'll let you jump in it and you race a big car, I highly recommend it because it really puts a different perspective to it for sure. Yeah. Well, no, that was cool. Thank you, Ben, for for doing that. Um want to get to the unboxing. We did get one. I think you're gonna recognize this one. So um I'll uh I I actually during the break I kind of cheated and popped the box a little bit just so that it didn't take. Oh, did you? Well, just cut the tape on it. So um what's I'll grab this thing and we'll get it get this baby open. Big dog. It's fragile. There you go. Who's opening it? You can open it. I'm supposed to open it. Why do I gotta open it? I don't think it's a call. Uh oh. It looks like a driving suit. I'm not even shitting you. Who's got a toad stabber? One day I don't have a knife on me. Right? Yeah, no shit. I know, right? Oh yeah. This is a driving suit. I think. Uh oh. It's a helmet? Hold on here, I gotta get my cord out of the way. Okay, this is badass as shit. Captain America. Captain America. The old man. Oh, look at the set look at the front of it. Where? What? Oh, Jacob. Jacob son it. Jacob. Definitely Jacob. Fuck Jacob Gregor. No way did he fit in this. Bullshit. I mean, guys, you know. Cyril? No. What's the one on the bottom? Where? I can't see. Hanley Hustler? The Hanley Hustler? Jacob Gregor sending down his driving suit and helmet. That's pretty badass, huh? Come on. Yeah, but this must have been like early like 2015. 2014. That's cool as shit. That helmet is sick. Show the back of that thing. That thing is cool. I mean, this thing is badass. Um I mean, I'm thinking about wearing this this weekend. Like it's even got the skirt. It's got the skirt. It's ready to roll. It's got the Jake McBurnie skirt on it. Uh it is. Yeah, it's Daryl's suit, he said. Oh, it's Daryl's suit. Yep. Daryl's suit. Okay, that makes a little more sense. He said. It's got fresh tear-offs on it and everything, but this just come right off the dash of the Wesoda carbud, guaranteed. I mean, that thing is cool. Yeah. That Gregor on her. That's awesome. Yeah. What a fun guy that guy is. Isn't he? Comes down to he comes down, brings the old fish hut. Dude, that thing is badass. That's cool. What's the snail sticker on it? Can you wear it? Uh I think I can. That doesn't it doesn't say there. I can't remember. Is it 2020 or 2015 that we're still good on? No, this one's out of date. 95. Uh 2010. Oh, yeah. That one's out of date. You could rip it one night for highlight. Man, that sucker's cool. It's got a few chips on her still. That's cool. Thank you, Greg or family. That's badass. Jacob Darrell. Thank you guys very much. We're gonna get this stuff hung up. Need a mannequin. I've actually got uh Ricky Thornton's one of his suits when he won all the races. That's sick. Uh one? No, it's uh um oh man. One of the Jones ones. I think it's a Jones one. It's a I bought it at a at Cale um well, it's not Ryerson, but Chad Ryerson and Sabrina's sons. They had a bad fit and they donated it to that and I bought it. Auctioned it off. I bought it at that auction. Nice. And I'm still waiting to have Ricky sign it, but it was the year that he won the most Lucas platform. Yeah, he set the record. Set the record, yeah. So that's pretty cool though. I mean, uh, so thank you, Jacob. That's awesome. That's cool. That's fun. Um alright, next segment, obviously, what uh Jonathan's been waiting for. I haven't been waiting for it at all. I mean, this has to be the Moffitt's mayhem of the week. Um man, uh the But it what is it? The the what it is is the fact that uh Robert Lawton claims Jake Socco um Saturday night at the Boon Speedway. Um there were fireworks and things that conspired at the racetrack that doesn't happen on a normal on a on a normal. Um however, the fact of the matter of this is that this isn't the first time that it's happened, and it's not the only racetrack that it's ever happened at. It's a rule. It is a rule. Yeah. Um, you know, I we kind of talked about it a little bit earlier. I wasn't even at the track, had no idea anything had happened. Um and then the whole clan comes to the shop, and I'm like, holy shit, holy cow, this is gonna be crazy. Um Jake calls me, like, you know, Jake and I are buddies. Um Jake calls me probably two hours on his way home, and of course he's mad and everything, and and what I can say from my perspective of it, um, is if I'm Jake Socko and I'm running for a national title, and I'm having as much success as I'm having, I'm almost in the back of my mind thinking I'm gonna get bobbed by somebody at some point. Um however, everybody knows that there are mid-state machine motors everywhere out there, you know, and I do know that um the motor that was in that car is the car the motor that he won at Supernationals. Um, which that's what it was designed for. Yeah. As far as the motor, you know, you auction it off, they give you a new motor, you know, blah blah blah, and it's it's a great, it's an awesome thing. It's great that John at Mid States does that. Um He's an amazing guy. Oh, John I run John's stuff, but every time I've gone down there to the chassis dyno. Yep. I'll tell you what, I mean uh somebody that's willing to work on somebody else's stuff or even get you pointed in the right direction, like those guys are, like you've always said, it's well worth your time to go down there and use that dyno. He's a racer. He's a racer, just like us, you know, and and he's in business and he builds a good product, but he also, like you said, like he's just will help anybody. Exactly, you know, and he's just a frickin' motorhead. Yeah, and it's awesome, you know. Um but if I were Jake Socco in that position, knowing how Lottie can handle certain situations on and I mean I've been watching Lottie do things, uh crazy things, like whether it's at the drivers, all of them. I mean, I've seen him rip ass at the top of the VIP place with every driver in the pit area, and I mean you wanna I I was just like, I mean, whoa. And guess what? It worked. People started, you know, it was about people tearing their cars up, and I mean Lottie was a dick about it, but it he it needed to be said. People were driving people like assholes and tearing each other up, and you get a point across. Yeah, and he and he did, that's exactly what he did, you know, and and he's been around a long time, and you know what, we all handle things uh out of line sometimes in life, and that's just part of it. But if I were Jake Sacco, I w uh running for a national title, knowing that I'm gonna race at Boon Speedway for a national title to try to win that championship, because uh I know that Jake has had the tracks picked out, you know, where he's gonna race to try to get this title. He wants to get a title before he moves up. Right. Um I would have sold. I mean the rule sucks. It's been that way before we were involved with it. Right. It's not the new. It's not when you buy your license at the beginning of the year, you know that that's something that could potentially happen. Yes, correct. And you know, last year and and okay, so last year when he claimed Matt Loofed, it exploded the internet because nobody does it anymore. Right. You know? I was gonna say I'd I'd almost take the opposite side where it's like, I don't think it happens enough. I mean, and that's and I know, you know, like you said, that there's a lot of buzz whenever something like this takes place, you know, everybody's putting their opinion in. And I I really can't, you know, put myself in Jake's shoes or Lottie's shoes, and I'm not gonna speculate on on any of that stuff back and forth, but I mean, you know, just from my own perspective with what we're doing, if we were good enough that we're gonna get bought, I'd probably I mean, I wouldn't have a problem selling it myself. I mean, like I said, I don't know anything about the interaction or whatever took place, but I at its core, you know, I think it's it's a rule that kind of helps, you know, it it on its face, corral cost and keep stuff down. That I mean, from my interpretation, that's what it's there for. Um, you know, if you uh if you have a car, you know, and Jake that motor was not John puts out a good piece, no doubt about it. Right. Jake isn't a great race car driver, and he's got a car that you know he can do things with it that like what we were just Talking about that others won't even try, and he he makes it look easy. Um, you know, but uh if if it comes down to you know letting a motor go or something like that, there again, I I can't put myself in his shoes, but in my own, I don't have a problem moving that motor because I have the option to go buy another one next week, right? And and the thing of it is, is there are a lot of people out there that are running these good motors be you know, and and that's just part of it. I mean, you can build your own motor. Yep, we've done it. We talked about it, yeah. I I have too. I mean, and and you can go out and be competitive with it and everything. Be competitive enough to where, okay, I built this motor and it's gonna make me competitive enough to win a race where I could be claimable at times. Right, absolutely. You know, and the rule, I mean, back in the day, I mean, my dad lost 79 motors of the claim. So I don't want to hear nobody bitch. It was getting used. He was getting used, 100%. I mean, one time my dad laid a snappin' turtle on the dash of his race car while they pulled the motor out of that thing, and I ain't shitting you. Have you ever I mean, and I I know he's got a lot of stories, but like there was a Speedway Illustrator article, I think, a year or two years ago where they were talking about the motor claim and stuff like how it used to be, and guys just doing crazy stuff like welding forks to crankshafts and you know, using different fasteners and you know, making breakaway stuff, you know, just because they knew the thing was gonna be gone the next day. Right. And it always boiled down to you know, um Don Portwine used to you guys remember Don Portwine raced the number seven car. And I'm he came up to my dad one time and was like, Log, I just don't get it. I got a brand new five thousand dollar motor, and you drive by me every week, you know, and my dad at that time was losing motors every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday if we were racing on Sundays, or everybody just thought it was his motors. And um my dad ran a lot of 377 and 355s, and he'd run a 383, you know, at bigger shows, and he always ran a 406 at Brit because it just ran good there. But he sold all of them and claimed a couple, you know, and then gave them back, or it ended up not going through, or whatever. And I just think that in the heat of the moment, I feel that things didn't go as expected, and then of course, with social media and and all the videos. You get a bunch of different narratives, yeah. You got a bunch of negativity about it, and but hold on a minute. The promoter's claim has always been there, and it's been there for a long time. And like I said, Jeremy Mills got claimed at Brit one night. I can't remember who the promoter was, but they claimed him, you know, because he backed out, they did it to Brian Irvine, they did it to Brian or to Joe McBurney in 2007. Um like it has been around, you know, and so when you have something like this that is not ever around and it happens, it's gonna cause a stink. Right. It's almost like it's just it's just like, yeah, like you said, it's one of those things that people kind of forget is in there. Right. And it can happen, you know. Um it's no different like the NFL when one of them guys that we pay millions and millions of dollars to play football, they go out and they fuck up and you know, one of them punches a girl or whatever, and it's like, oh my god. That's like what's going on right now with this situation. You know what I mean? I I think it's just it's shock value almost. Yeah, yeah. And it's looked I think it's looked at more like a nuclear option, like something that's just like, whoa, what just took place? And it doesn't regardless if it's a promoter claim or racer on racer or something like that, or or however. But you know, and I sat here and thought last year when this thing, you know, when that one happened, I was like I what would it look like if more people started doing it? You know, I mean, and it's it the the way that I interpret the rule, how it's written, stuff like that, I don't feel like, you know, anybody it sucks the first night, I have no doubt about that. Because, you know, if you were gonna go somewhere to m you know the next day, then you're like, well sweet, you know, I better hope I hope I got one on the floor back in the shop that I can put in or I can do something like that. But you got the option the next time you're at the track to do the same thing. Right. And if you know, if and I'm I'm talking hypothetically here, if it's a racer on racer deal or something like that, you know, and you're you're going and trying to take down the biggest, baddest dude because you think the motor's the answer, I've got you know, uh sorry brother. That ain't that ain't the answer. Right now, right, and I I I just I mean it would I be pissed? Well, yeah, absolutely. I mean, it goes same thing, like, yeah, shit. But like I said, back in the day, there were multiple that's what people went to the racetrack to see, like, oh man, you know, this guy claimed Logue last week, you know, is he gonna run up front? Or is he does he have the motor in? Or, you know, who's gonna get claimed this week? And it really died down when stuff started really getting uh not out of control, but you know, when when stuff really started elevating in price and motors and stuff, but so there again, you can go you can claim a motor for $500, you get one, and then it's an exchange. So you're getting a motor back. Do I agree with it? No, but there's not just all bad things with it. Right. Um and so you can still go and claim a motor. You like Jake could have gone and put a motor in and went and bought another motor, and it was probably depending on who it is, you know, he's probably getting the same thing or better. Yeah, or just a little bit better. It might have 15 nights on it instead of Jake's motors. So uh we refer this to about Jimmy Gustin all the time. Like anything that Jimmy Gustin races, if he races, he says he's got 10 nights on it, it's actually got 20. Jake gets a lot out of the stuff. That's what I'm saying. He gets a shit ton out of his motors, and it's no different, like the first year we won Supernationals with a Carl's motor, it was it was a motor we had $3,100 in. I'm not shitting you. And Brian Shroggy's dad, so we bought it back, and that was the next year we won the Nationals again with that same motor. And the guy, Shroggy's dad, was like, I'm I'm buying that motor. I'm like, dude, you're gonna be disappointed. Like, seriously disappointed. Nope, nope. And I like I wanted it because I would won two races with it, you know, big, big, duck, big shows. I literally stood there with my hand held up until I don't even remember what we got over it. It was 7,900 or something like that. I mean, it went for good money. Seen him about three weeks later at Marshtown, and he's like, Man, you weren't lying. And I'm like, I told you he's a machinist, you know. I mean, so I uh really really wish things wouldn't have escalated like they did. Um, but I also can relate to that because there's times where I'm just talking with my hands and shit, and it looks like I'm super pissed off, and I'm I'm I mean, how was breakfast yesterday? Yeah, literally. Literally. So um the internet, man, they really clickbaited a lot of people um and a lot of people got involved in it, and it was no different than when Matt Looft, you know, got claimed. Uh I mean, I had we had lunch the other day and uh he he didn't see any problem with what happened on Saturday. So Right. I mean it's just it's like you said, it's people are gonna have their opinions about it, good or bad, and and uh you know, you're there's obviously with as much as Jake's been winning, there's 23 other guys or whatever in that uh in those features that aren't winning those races, so they're gonna feel differently, right? I mean that comes from any type of competition. Well, and and here's the other thing though too with that. Um I think, in my opinion, if the if if the double feature stuff is gonna continue like this um at Boone Speedway, in my opinion, I think because Jake's not that dominant at Stewart or the other places he races. He ran third tonight. Braden Carter picks up the $3,000 win at the sandbox. Um so like you know what I mean? It it it's not um what am I trying to say here? Um that motor did not define Jake. That motor has not, yeah, it does not define Jake. So and I feel like if we're gonna continue on with the double feature stuff, I think you guys need to take the top 20 guys in points. And that's what needs to be they need to be raced together. The top twenty or the top twenty-four. If you're gonna do two features, top twenty-four guys in points, because then I don't know, I don't know if Jake necessarily dominates like he has in some of the features. Now, that's no jab at any race or anything because there's it's always circumstantial stuff too. Right. That's always going on in a race, no matter what. Somebody's breaking or somebody's getting bent out of shape, or somebody breaks and tackles somebody. Right. Right. You know, ever since I gave him my notebook, he started winning races there. That's really what it came down to. I mean, I I got messages, I can prove it. I'm just kidding, Jake. But so what an explosion on it. Um, I think it's gonna stand. It really sucks, um, in my opinion, as far as you know, it is Jake Sockow knows he needs to move up. Um we've all been there. He knows that. I I understand. I tried chasing the national title the last two years I was in a sport mod before I moved up, and you know, everybody said that I couldn't do it without my dad's money, and we I mean, pfft proved that, you know, I mean, it's not that much to move up to a modified. He's gonna do big things in a modified, in my opinion, just because of his driving style. Um, but there's also a lot of fans that are gonna miss the 14 car for the next month just because of the decision that they made, and um you know that sucks because I like I said I like watching Jake Race too. Right. Um he's fun to watch out on the racetrack. Um He puts on a show, he's got a level of confidence in his stuff that it's just it's unreal sometimes. Like we were talking about where, you know, just the highlights from last week where it's like going into three and it's like just gonna split them and go in there. Yep, roll on out, clean as a whistle. Yeah, exactly. And and and so this little hiccup, I mean, obviously isn't gonna detour anything else that he's doing. It just sucks that it takes him out of that national title. I know he really wanted to get one of them before he hung up his sport mod career and moves either to a modified. I'm trying to sell him a stock car. There we go. Get him into a stock car, but I think the modified class is where he really needs to be. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and he'll I mean, he'll like I said, that some of the stuff, I don't know. Like I said, it it'll it'll come out the other side fine. You know? Um Well, and and I want to elaborate on this a little bit too with this situation. Any promoter at any track can do this. So people saying, Oh, there's there were isn't there a designated claim area, isn't there this, isn't there that? You're gonna let me come into your house and tell you you can or can't take a shit wherever you want. Right, right. It's my house, brother. I can do what I want. I'm I'm I mean, I'm just saying. Right. You know, I I and that that's a that's a pretty cutthroat, but Boone Speedway's been cutthroat. And like I said, I don't agree with it at all. I think it's bullshit. But rules are rules, and every time it's I've been I've been on this side of this shit, it sucks. I mean, it ruined my can my making the Supernationals every year over this much on a goddamn shock. Right. Which IMCA knew that was bullshit that they were DQing me for it on a right rear shock. And they turned around and they DQ'd my dad in the same year, you know, like, but that's the rule. Right. It doesn't matter. Right. That's the goddamn rule. It's black and white. It's black and white, and that is why they did what they did. And and like I said, I I don't like it, but rules are rules. Everybody's got a full rules. Exactly. So uh hopefully everybody moves on from it. Um it's gonna be the big hype up and the big talk about it, you know, here for a while. And you know, maybe it started something, you know. Yeah. Does, but here's my next question. Does Jake Socko get claimed again after his 30-day suspension is over, like the Matt Louf deal, and then he just says, you know what, screw this, I'm moving up. That's gonna be the big question. Is that gonna happen to him? Uh time will tell, we got 30 days. Uh or does he just say, you know what, screw it. I'm not gonna pay the fine, I'm not gonna cave in and go race USRA. Yeah, I don't know. No one knows. Right. No one knows. Just up, yeah, whatever. I don't know how to do it. Or or does Jake Sacco just wait and then come back at Salute Vretrans and just do some mopping? Just picks up where he left off. I mean, it sucks that the one weekend that we're gonna run a 1A feature, he can't be there. I mean, it is your show. Do you want to make it? I didn't even think about it. Do you want to make an exception? Because it isn't special. Not my trap. Does it have to be sanctioned? It is sanctioned. Alright. Yeah, it's gotta be sanctioned. Yes, it will be sanctioned. Okay, you might get an email in the morning. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Well, let's move on to um Elmquist Toeing question of the week. And and uh we'd been kind of talking about some stuff where and actually I was um thinking about a story from my when my dad was talking about when he used to race, and so I was like, I wonder what people's best cheater story is. Like yeah, you got fun gonna talk about it. But uh, you know, the MCUing question of the week was what's your best cheater story? And we've got some pretty good ones on here. Um you know, some of them it you know might be a little biased, obviously, in the comments, but um when they're talking about other people. But um, you know, the one that my dad always told me was um and he put one in here in the comments as well, but one that he always told me as a kid was when he was racing um street socks back in the day, Brian Nevins was like always the dude. Like he was the he was the guy that you wanted to be. The guy race. Yeah, and like he had wider tires on, and Buddy Moran came over in the I think your Lottie or Buddy Moran both came over sitting in staging and was like, Don't finish the top four. Like the buddy had a tape measure on the tires because they were you know however much wider they than what you could run. And dad goes, We're racing, and man, I just wanted to race with this guy because he was he was the dog. He was the stuff. Have you ever talked a singer before? He's a really cool dude. Yeah, a long time ago. It's been a while, and like uh, but uh, you know, he's like, We're racing really hard, racing really hard, and you know, he goes, All of a sudden I see the green flag up high, and he's like, Oh man, I gotta like back off because they told me don't finish in the top four. And uh and this was late 80s, I believe. And he said they get they get he backs off, and dad's like, I'm still waiting for cars. Like he's like, So I'm still racing, I fall in behind him, let him go more and more. I go next corner, I go in and jump to cushion. Nobody's still passing, whatever. And by the end of the race, he ends up finishing second because like those two were that much further out ahead of everybody because they were racing so hard. And yeah, needless to say, Lottie just points him, points him straight off the racetrack. Like, don't even pull into the pit. Can't do that, bud. Yeah, don't even pull into the tech area. So I thought that that one's always been a story that's and I could be messing it up, but I like that's always one that stuck out to me ever since I was a little kid, you know, him telling that story. Burke, I know you have a good one. Yeah, so that was the first year of Supernationals I was ever at, and I think it was probably it was either my first or second year in a sport mod. And I'm just out there. Like, I'm not threatening or anything like that. I'm just, you know, minding my business, putting around. And I think Lucas Lambrees was in that heat with us, and he was he was fast, man. Like, I mean, especially in sport mod stuff, like at that point in time, and I'm like, well, we're gonna we're gonna run second to this cat. Like, you know, whatever. And uh I got doored by somebody, and then somehow I ended up back in front of him and uh going across scales at one of heat race supernationals. I've never done that, still haven't done it. Ran second more than a handful of times, but I've never won one. Was that that was your first ever heat race win in a big car too, right? Yeah, first ever heat race win, and uh that was in the old dirt boss car, and I think it was like the night before like we were having we were having chip issues, like our chip box was something was wrong with it, and it wasn't the new style one, it was the actual chip. And uh Bill helping me, as he always did back then, still does. Um he's like, Alright, we'll figure this out, you know, we'll wire one up and get it in there. And uh, I think it was like the day of the race, like we're at the track and we still haven't got this thing in yet. He's like, I'll get it, you know, he gets it figured out, wired up, you know, check it, works, great, fantastic. Go out there, do that, go across scales. Gotowski was doing tech still at that point in time. And uh, you know, I saw Cody over there, and I'm just like, dude, this is sweet. Like I'm gonna get the Casey's hat, like I'm gonna be up there, and uh he's like, Yeah, you're disqualified. And it's like, what? And it's like, yeah, you got two chipboxes. And I'm like, huh? And so pull crawl panel back, look in there, there's two chipboxes. There's one bolted to the inside with a pigtail coming off it that was cut because we just didn't pull it off, we just left it in there and cut it, and then the other one's hooked up and operational, and the other one was not operational. But you cannot have two chipboxes. It is there, it does say that you cannot have two chipboxes. So I don't know if that was necessarily like I mean I wasn't doing it intentionally, I wasn't like cheating, but I was cheating to the letter law. Right, right. Right. I still remember this because I was so jacked for him. I was like so pumped up, and then I see him like pointing at shit, and then they end up giving the hat to I think was it Lucas that gets it? Yeah, I think Lucas won that one. Yeah, so then Lucas ends up and I'm like, ah, and that was you know, there's a lot of racecraft on the track. What did Bill say when he got back to the trailer? Oh dude, he was heartbroken. Yeah, I have no idea. Yeah, he was so he was so bummed, and I'm just like, it's not that it's fine, Bill. Like, you know. But that kind of got me thinking, you know, after the fact, because come through the go-kart world, you're getting tech on everything, restrictor plates, all that stuff. And if you can argue your point, you know, you feel a little bit more confident when you're in that area and stuff, you know, and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Right. But you know, Tom was like, this is the way it is. And I'm like, I don't know anything about these cars. And I'm like, and I haven't read that rule book. I'm like, so I can't even I can't even do anything here. You know, you're right. I'm wrong. See ya. Right. But yeah, but still haven't won one. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we'll get we'll get another one. It's okay. Yeah, we'll get another one. Keep trying. Seven years later, still still ain't got one. That'll happen. But uh yeah, I thought that was kind of cool, and there's some really, really cool. I mean, it's up to 50 comments right now with people posting their stories on there um of them doing stuff and not getting caught or getting busted or whatever, but kind of inspired, like I said, after um Todd was talking about that on the one episode where they had been doing the dials at ACS and and uh kind of fired that up, and I was like, oh yeah, that'd be I wonder what every anybody else has got on this too. Yeah. So um do we have anything else we need to cover as far as yes, yes, we do. One we we do have something we need to cover. Uh Raceway, sports park raceway. There you go. Went up there last night. Uh season opener, first time being IMCA since. Does anybody know when? It's been a minute. So whenever the flying electrician had it last was the last time it was IMCA. Um we get up there last night and uh you know, hot laps were at five. They started a little later than that. Um they had ninety four cars, um, they had eight classes. They didn't have a lot of cars in all the classes, but they had a good field of hobby stocks. They had 15 stock cars, I think 10 mods. 10 or 11 mods. They had a good field of sport mods. I think they had seven crown VIX, couple vintage cars, some sport compactors. Um but holy cow. Um they shortened up the racetrack, but it doesn't race like it's shortened up. Um I don't mean that in a bad way. They had multiple lanes uh in the heat races. The only thing that I was scared shitless was is you going into turn three. Uh you could not see going like if guys were hanging their tire off um coming out of two, you just literally couldn't see anything in front of you. Um they addressed it right away, got the water truck out there, they watered it down. Um the check-in process was I mean, super fast. I mean uh the racing, I was literally loaded up and backing my stuff out at 8 30. Um and man, I mean, everybody was super friendly. They ran, they had a coup they had a hobby stock, I mean they had a some wrecks and some cautions and stuff, and man, they they executed great. Um I had a great experience there. I want to try that place out. I mean, everybody was kind of saying, oh man, the rocks, and I I mean I remember we used to race there on Friday nights back in the day when they first opened up, you know, when Dave Doty and stuff ran it. And um I remember, I mean, if you're gonna run Fort Dodge for all season, you're gonna buy a new helmet at the end of the season. Or you had at least a fucked up knuckle or something, you know. Um but uh yeah, I mean I think that uh they just need people to go up there and support it. And if they can run eight classes and not have any catastrophic stuff happen, be able to get us out of there by 8 30 on a Sunday night. But Vinton does the same thing. But it's nice that there's something over here now. Correct. I was gonna say it's it's nice to I remember going to Stuart on Sunday nights, yeah, you know, with Joel and Bill and them guys, and that was just like the cap to the weekend. And as soon as I saw Fort Dodge was gonna do the same thing, I'm like, that is an awesome option to have now. Seriously to be able to go do that. Yeah. And and the tech guys, I mean, they did an excellent job. They tech stuff. Um, they got a nice scale area up there, the pit area is nice, um, the food was good. Um man, they just I mean, they had stuff going, they had fans in the in the stands. I mean, I I honestly couldn't believe uh how many cars were there for opening night, you know, just because they kind of had not a bad rap, but you know, they had some hiccups over the years. And uh starting from scratch again, basically. Yeah, and I tell you what, Jeff Revert, if that's how you say his name, I think that's how you say it, but him and Brandon Tofty have moved mountains and uh out there. I mean, Jeff did all that work. We were informed that he did all that work with a grader. Um and Brandon's been out there putting a ton of work in, and it is something. I mean, I we are definitely going back. Um just because I had fun. Like I had the wrong gear in. I will say if you're running an IMCA stock car, you're either you better have an 83 or a 6.0 in because it still races. What's that comparable? Uh because I don't have a stock car, but like where else are you running that gear at? So like I'm running uh an 83 at like corning. Okay. Yeah. Or a 67 or an 83 is what I would run at corning. Um, see, like, so when I ran Fort Dodge in my sport mod, I always ran a 500 because we're on a crate. Yep, makes sense. So I don't think that it's changed much from them. And then like you just it's a lot much wider racing surface. Yeah, you could really charge the corners really, really hard. So you could potentially have a guy run a different gear if there's a bottom and a completely different gear if he's on the top. He's committing. Correct. I had a 620 in, and I tell you what, boys, in the heat race, I was on the chip at the flag stand just driving directly to the bottom, going my when I come in, the motor, my the old tongue was hanging out of her a little bit, but never did get hot, and then I was lucky because it kind of went down to the bottom. We Scott Olson and I found the bottom down there, and we charged right up there, and um I wasn't chipping as bad. Like you could run a 620, but you're gonna be committed to the bottom 100%. So um super excited for that place up there. Like I said, I they man, you we we pull in there and it'd been a long time since I'd been there. So it was kind of cool to see all the shit they had going on, and um they're gonna have a thousand win IMCA stock car show up there here in two weeks. Uh so get out there and support that place and and check it out. I it's uh it's another great place to go on a Sunday. Yeah, no, it's pretty cool. I always enjoyed going up there like when Jason had it and and yeah, Jason and Isaac, they come up. They were up there. Yep, yeah. And uh yeah, no, I think when you know we worked at Power Lift there and and uh when Dotie had it and and raced up there a lot. Yeah, that was oh shit. Also, real quick, I ran into Marty Pringle. The museum. Yes, man, if you have not checked out the uh racing museum in Algonite, it's open on Saturdays or by appointment. There's over I think he said 85,000 pictures in there or something. He's got a ton of cars in there. He has put his everything, his whole everything into that place. And um, if you have not been up there to check it out, please get up there and check it out. There's they've got a Facebook page. We're trying to spread the word around and get it out there. There's so much cool racing memorabilia in that building. There's man, there's there's all kinds of stuff. You gotta go and check it out. So Marty stopped down last night and hadn't seen him in a while, so it was kind of nice to see the old the old MP. Yeah, yeah, and that like I said, I I still have not been up there, but I definitely want to make it a point to get up there because I'm I'm a racing history nerd anyway. So um yeah, I definitely need to to go up there because I would be I would be immersed in that place for hours. Well, maybe we just need to go up there and check it out and take the cameras to the podcast and just go up there and and maybe show some of that stuff and because some people, you know, are more visual than readers. They're not readers. They're lookers. He just liked that one, didn't he? Picture lookers. Picture lookers. Uh-huh. When you were talking about giving Jake your notebook and him calling you all the time, I'm like, he was probably just trying to figure out what that letter was or what this word was. 100%. Yep. You got the crayons out. Is that a squiggle? Yeah. Yeah. But on that, um we'll try to wrap things up here. First and foremost, want to thank Central Iowa Diesel Performance. Um, obviously Moffitt's forward, Elmquest towing, uh, performance bodies. Hey, hold on. One more thing. Yes. Logue Fabrication's gonna do a drawing giveaway for two pit passes to the Harris Clash. Okay. Alright. Logue Fabrication is gonna do two pit pass giveaway. And I tell you what, let's do uh yeah, let's do that for the Harris Clash. Cody will come up with something uh on our on our channel. And I was gonna say that earlier, and then you went like directly into thanking our sponsors. I'm like, shit, I need to fit this in here. Oh yeah. So sorry to interrupt. No, you're good. Anyway, so stay tuned. Cody's gonna figure something out uh to do a drawing giveaway for the Harris Clash. No, that'll be awesome. Um yeah, we need to get back to to schedule and some more of that giveaway stuff. Um But uh yeah, that'll be a good way to kick it, kick it off or get it uh get something put together so that you get some people. Hopefully it's somebody that you know was on the fence and now that now they'll be there. Right. So you just never know. But like I said, want to thank Central Iowa Diesel Performance. Um talked to Jed for a long time today and and uh talked to those guys over there, great people. Um, you know, Jake at Elmquist for for helping out. Um you know, performance bodies. Uh Josiah Taylor ended up winning the $50 gift card on on Saturday. So he got the doubled up. Yeah, so he got the I still haven't got mine. Yeah. You haven't? Nope. Oh, well. I I know a guy that's got them stashed. I know a guy too. But uh well, uh yeah, I need to need to get that to you. But uh anyway, um who else in my Adobe Lounge. Um Houseby trucking. The Housebe truck lube, they're still doing their 18% off. Barntown. Um Barntown for for obviously stocking up our fridge for us, and um Log Fab, P1P canopy. Umquist. I said Elmquist, yep, yep. But uh how about Garrett? Let's thank Garrett to him, too. Yeah. Our uh our real resident red over here in the corner making making this stuff happen for us. But uh and and Chris, Burke for coming on. Um we're looking forward to the uh yeah, great story, bud. Really great story. I did not know that that's how you it all started for you. That's uh you know, a lot of people don't know people's stories and how much effort and time and and and to see where you started, you know, I didn't see any of your go-kart stuff, but moving into the sport mods and where you're at now, like I was really rooting for you. I mean, I know we tuned to that airflow system on Saturday, but I it's it's been it's been fun to watch your career grow into what it is and and see and see the success finally start coming back to the trailer. Yep, absolutely. Yeah, and obviously, like we appreciate the help with the special and yeah, you guys gotta come up with something new now. If the mod lights are jumping in on this deal, you got there's gotta be, I know it's what have you guys been calling it, the double uh well, we've had a couple names for it. Right, you know, topless twofer since it's Boone and Motown. Right. Um the twin dirty thirties because they're 30 lappers for both of them. Um which is kind of cool anyway. I mean a 30 lap race. That's what I'm saying. Dirty 30s? That's some attrition. Yeah. I might, I mean, we might have to just throw in a case of dirty thirties. I think Jerry does. Jerry did he? Yeah. Oh, that's badass. Did he throw stones? Or did he keep it? Were they stones? Oh, man, that's highlights. Highlights. Oh, shit. Oh, headache. Uh-huh. Yeah. But that's still badass that he threw in the dirty thirties. I mean, that's that's pretty cool. 30 rack up there on the Jerry, don't forget to do that this year, please. Yeah. But uh, right on. Well, we'll close things out. Um and uh I'm sorry. What are you sorry to do? Oh, Garrett sent me the power rankings reminder as well. Bud. Oh man. Totally blew past that. I've had a couple things going on here. Um I was like, why is Garrett? Pay attention, Jonathan. Why is Garrett texting me right now? You're pulling that up. I was thinking about this too. What if you guys did doom scroll power rankings? He said something about that today. It could work. Chris would be all about it, I'm sure. I I mean I'd be in there. Like he was at the races on Saturday. Yeah, I saw him running around over there, and he's got a lot of things. He's got that little scooter and shit. Uh okay, Adobe Lounge Power Rankings before we get to the end. Um it's got Mike Smith one, Jeremy Mills two, uh still has Sacco at three, um Todd shoots four, Avila five, Saurman six, Eric Knutson seventh, Austin Gray eighth, Jimmy Gus a nine, and Brian Zeeem ten. So you fell out. Weird. Fell out. Yeah, I know. I'm you know, I've actually talked to my contacts and my lawyer about this. Like, there's some shit going on. I'm not I can't even nope. I can't I'm not even gonna talk about it. Not even gonna talk about it. When I draw did I fall out of the top five for the stock card portion? Uh I didn't get that far. Give us a scroll real quick. Well I just hit that easier now. Um let me see. I'll have to look at my spreadsheet. I don't know. I'll have to I'll figure I'll figure out the rest. But uh, yeah. So it's alright. That is horse shit. Yeah. Well, don't you? Don't finish eighth. I suck on Saturday. But alright. Yes, thanks for the reminder, G. But on that, let's close this thing out and uh head for the hills. But like I said, we want to thank Chris. Come to Boon Speedway in Marshalltown this weekend for the topless two for uh adding mod lights into that, so that'll be good. Um, but I think that's all I got, boys, unless you got all right. We're gonna sign off for this week, uh, episode 36 in the books. We thank you guys for watching. You've been watching Watermelons and Woodchips. We will see you next week. West Maine, Isaac. Our hours are Monday to Friday, 1 p.m. to close, Saturday and Sunday, noon to close. Come enjoy some of the strongest drinks in town and the best homemade pizzas around. Whether you're stopping in to relax, meet friends, or grab a bike, the Adobe Lounge is the place to be.