What Were Our Parents Thinking?

This week we spent a lot of time talking movies.

We kick things off with our very first movie memories, then dive into the films we actually love and the ones we shouldn't have watched as kids. That leads to a bigger conversation about how our parents handled the whole "is this movie appropriate?" question and how we plan to navigate that with our own kids.

If you've ever snuck into an R rated movie before you were ready, argued about what counts as a "family film," or just need some good comedy, this one's for you.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

We're recording. Sitting eating Halloween candy. Halla holla. Gotta cop me. Kinda kinda gotta Halloween, Halloween, holla, holla. What was the what was the first movie that you remember seeing in the movie theaters as a child? Pirates of the Caribbean. No way.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

Yeah, that was 2003. Yeah, it was later. But I mean, you put me on I had no idea you were gonna ask that. First thing that popped in my head. No, but I re but I remember going and seeing that. And uh I was in sixth grade, so you were in you were in second. Are you sure it was 03? I feel like I was younger than nine. I felt like I was like seven. Because I remember being a little, I thought it was the coolest thing that I got to go see that movie. I was like so I was so excited to go see Pirates. I got another good one for you. Davy Jones.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

What um what about you? Little Giants. What's your little giants? Like 94. Yeah. I was young. The reason I remember that was because I don't really remember much of the movie in the theater. Uh huh. I just remember. Um, hold on, let me look this up real quick. Pirates.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

Pirates of the Caribbean. What year was it? I mean, Orlando Bloom was pretty he was young, though. He was super young. Uh I mean Orlando Bloom's gotta be like 50 now. 2003. Oh, three. Yeah, you you do know your movies pretty well.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

So that was sixth grade. Um, I was in sixth grade. I was 11 or 12. Okay. So that you were yeah, I would have been nine. But did y'all go to the movies a lot?

SPEAKER_01 1:36

That was like my thing. Probably probably from Pirates On. We went, we went quite a bit. Yeah. So maybe not when I was way younger. We didn't. But Little Giants.

SPEAKER_00 1:46

94. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

It's kind of a fun one. Uh 94.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

I don't remember much of yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

You remember saying you were born in 91, right? Yes. And you remember seeing it. The reason I I don't have any memories from from three years old.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

They're they're my earliest memories, five years old. The reason I remember. And to this day, me and my brothers joke about it. Uh so one of the characters at the very end, if you remember the movie, you probably don't. A little bit, yeah. Yeah. I guess he gets a football helmet like stuck over his eyes or something like that. I can't remember what it was. But I remember in the movie theater, what he says is, I can't see with this thing on. And what? And so I just ran around the house saying, a talbatat Leon. So that's that's your core memory. As a three-year-old. Yeah, I so that makes sense. So I I find still wearing diapers. I find I find going to the movies to be a magical, magical experience. Like the whole digital world. The whole digital world kind of what yeah, keep no. Well, it just like there's a lot of I didn't know that about you. Well, we're gonna start seeing movies together. We just hit we hit record and you figure it out. I like weird movies. I do like weird movies. I was a couple hours away from getting a film minor, but I did not um define weird.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

Like like give movie examples for what like Paul Thomas Anderson weird.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

Like I say weird, maybe not weird. Um There will be blood. Like I find like Oh, yeah. Okay. So you I guess it's not weird. It's just like stuff. That's an award-winning movie. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

That's I'm not well bro, but you just you like you like theater.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

Yeah, like you just never know who you're talking to because like wait, and I'm gonna say this as pretentiously as I can. You like the film, film, yeah, not movies, film, film guy. Well, you just never know who you're talking to because like I could sit, I could be talking to somebody, and like here's the thing I can go watch the mindless action Tom Cruise movie and have I can have a great time. Yeah, it's an easy watch. Yeah, I can do I can I can chop it up with because I I can enjoy a movie for what a movie is trying to be. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, hey, it's gonna tell the audience to think or act a certain way.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

Like a Tom Cruise movie, you know, going into it, it's not gonna be the best acting quality, it's gonna be a little bit cheesy, but like you know that that's I'm turning my brain off.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

I'm not trying to look for things, I'm not trying to think about things, I'm not trying to like find the nuance, I'm not trying to, you know. Um yeah, it's just easy. But the but what I where I was going earlier was there's a lot of people that that in my wife, she she enjoys Danny enjoys going to the movie theater, but she definitely loves the comfort and the convenience of click and like the on the couch, yeah. Like and and like I want to go see the new Paul Thomas Anderson movie, one battle after another. And like I found myself the other day being like, Well, it's hard to get out with kids to go see a movie. I was like, is this gonna be streamed soon? And then I found out it was gonna be streamed on November 20th, and I was like, no, I gotta see that one in the movie. So, like, from the jump stream that one.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

Oh, you haven't have you seen it? We went to see it, we walked out. Oh, yeah, we really did. No way, you didn't like it. Uh, it was uh very like um it from from sex from a sexual perspective, it was like nasty. Oh nasty stuff. Okay, yeah, yeah. And that's so we yeah, we were we sat through it for like 15 minutes and we um we saw what was another what's another big movie that was out recently? We we went we saw that the show time it was starting in like 10 minutes, so we went went to that one instead. Let me see.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

Well, see, and that's the other thing that you that has changed since becoming a believer is like what I watch. Right. And I still want to enjoy the things that I used to, but now I have to be a little bit more like discerning and what I let in, especially either sexual stuff or whatever. Yeah, but I I have always enjoyed the popcorn smell, yeah, the like the pop of the movie screen, the the like the experience, yeah. And that was one that Danny like really she was like, she's never I'll I'll throw out like stepbrother lines, just like old dumb and dumber lines, and she's she has no idea. No, I'm with you.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

Movie theater is so much better, and I I think I would say we're in the anomaly on that now.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

Yeah, because most people like just digital. Yeah, I'm trying to find out what did y'all step on.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

Oh, Springsteen was it Springsteen that you walked back to? No, no, no. It was um it was the one with the rock that doesn't that he actually played a serious role. Smashing machines. Smashing machines. We went and saw that, and I loved it. He was good, Emory wasn't a huge fan, but I just thought it was I just thought it was good for him for like trying to do something different. Well, and he you couldn't even recognize him most of the time until the very end. At the very end, his character shaved his head, but until then he had hair the whole time. Like you couldn't, you really couldn't tell.

SPEAKER_00 7:39

Go look up the guy he plays, Max Kerr, Tarr Kerr. And I think he gets it right. It's funny because before that they got him for that role, they told him The Rock that he needed to get bigger, which is insane. It's crazy. He was like, Yeah, he was like, I bet you've probably never heard this. Yeah, he was huge.

SPEAKER_01 7:58

But like the way he played that character was was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 8:01

I mean, it was back when the UFC like wasn't a thing. Is that was that the whole thing?

SPEAKER_01 8:05

Like that was like not profitable. Yeah, it was basically basically the movie ended showing the real guy, Mark Kerr, right? I get his name right. Mark Kerr at a grocery store, and like it kind of seemed like they were like almost like a paparazzi. They were filming, like he didn't know they were gonna show up, and they filmed him, and at the end it like closed out like this is Mark Kerr, like basically saying, None of you know who he is. Oh, but this is what he did, and the UF, these fighters are getting paid millions and millions of dollars now because of him, and he's literally just at the grocery store like a normal person. Nobody knows, nobody knows anything about him. It was it was you would like it as being into film, film, you would have you would appreciate it. I didn't know, bro. Why are we not seeing more seriously? No, I'm excited even about um like this is this is a like you said, an easy watch that's coming out soon. I think it comes out this weekend. Now you see me. I loved that series. I liked it. Saw the first one. So they have another one, they have another one coming out, but like again, it's not your mind's not blown, but it's just like a fun easy watch. There's some magic going on. Entertaining. It's entertaining. What's your what is your off the top of your head? The most memorable movie you ever saw in theater. Remember the Titans. Really?

SPEAKER_00 9:30

What about that one stuck out? Just this the the lines. Like, I remember watching that. I think, check me. It was 2000 2000? That sounds right. I gotta get it right before I think before I tell you exactly. I think you're right. Um that's such a great, such a great movie. 2000. Um Saw it with my mom. A lot of a lot of the movies, a lot of the time we were at the theaters, mom was a stay-at-home summertime, me and my two brothers, and I get it, like you have to spend, you know, you have to we didn't, we weren't, it's not like we were going all the time, but I was begging to go all the time. Right. I just will never forget like the way Denzel just like can draw you in. You will be perfect in every aspect of the game. Like Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

He's he's made for the big screen.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

Yeah, I think so. I think that was it, and then and then you like turn around and watch like a training day, which is just like another good one. Yeah, uh, but but that's the first one that comes to my mind of being like, man, I remember, and I remember the like I remember specifically in the theaters, like the football scenes. Like whenever whenever Coach Yotes is like, they will not gain another yard. You blitz all night, and then like the they cut to, and like guys are getting flipped over, and like what about you?

SPEAKER_01 11:11

So good. Uh it's newer, actually, a quiet place. By far the best movie experience I've ever had. And for a reason completely different than you would typically expect from a theater. What made it so amazing was how silent the theater was. And no, and nobody would like, you know, normally people are digging through their candy, their popcorn. You like everybody in the theater, it's like everybody was on the same wavelength, like, we're not ruining this. Like, we're gonna be dead silent. And it was just just eerie. It was almost like they were participating with the people in so and and nobody knew what to expect because like it there was it wasn't uh it wasn't a remake, or I don't think no, it's I don't think I think it was brand new originsky original. So nobody knew what to expect. So then you walk in and that's what it is, and I think after I wish I could have gotten that experience, it was cool because seeing that watching that one now streaming, it's not like people that didn't see it in theaters are like, Oh yeah, that's a good movie, and I'm like, Ah, you didn't see it in theaters, did you?

SPEAKER_00 12:17

So you're in you're you're taking into account like you're you're in there with everybody, everybody's quiet, huge screen, super dark. Yeah, yeah, that came out for that movie. I since having kids, since yeah, since having kids, because I think it came out in 21. Around 21, maybe. I think that's I think so. Maybe maybe that was two. I don't know. Well, they've had multiple, and I think they're on the I haven't been so like kids, they can't kill.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

Like, I just I totally for great reasons, but we had a standing movie night with the Kellys. Uh no pre pre-kids every Tuesday night. It was five dollar movie night. Oh, my bad. We'd go every single night.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

The first one was 2018. Yeah, so that sounds right. I say that before it changed when I got married because we started doing stuff together, and like it just yeah, when I was single, it was something that I was doing a lot of just to, you know. But um I bet that one, especially towards the end, whenever whenever she steps on the nail, yes, and then you're like, it's insane.

SPEAKER_01 13:27

Yeah, because the whole point the whole point is to be quiet. Yeah. The end the entire movie. So it's such a different experience, and that I think that's why it was memorable. Do you remember as a kid? And maybe that this could be different, because I grew up in a small town, yes, and you didn't so small town like the movie theaters, that was the thing to do because we didn't have much inner much other entertainment. Yeah. Did you have to physic well, or you could either call in to the movie theater and wait on hold and it would give you the show times, or we would drive physically drive by the outside. It was built into the mall. We would drive by this wall and it had all the movie posters and it had the show times posted under it to to figure out what what was showing and what time. Was that a thing? Newspaper. Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

That's good, good one too. Yeah, we we we found the times on the I didn't I don't didn't remember that until you asked. Yeah, isn't that crazy? Uh but yeah, newspaper. So y'all called.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

Yeah, they had a they had a you could call in and so what if there's like buttons?

SPEAKER_00 14:42

20 movies played and you gotta like cycle.

SPEAKER_01 14:45

This is Bartlesville, Oklahoma. It was it was uh movies eight. Yeah. They all they only had eight movies. So so I mean it was I remember there would there was stuff that we wouldn't get. Like you'd hear about it and people be talking about it, and we like we wouldn't get them. Yeah. They didn't show. No, because it's just eight. It was eight. And then we also had a dollar theater on the other side of town, and that was movies that are about to become on that are on VHS that you could probably see. Yeah, it was like they were they had just come out. Yeah, exactly. They had like just you could go to Blockbuster now and rent it. Basically, they they originally came out probably six months ago. Or honestly, back then, maybe even longer. Like movies would stay in theaters for four or five. If it was a good movie, it'd be in theater for like six months. If it wasn't great, it was like a month or two.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Yeah, but here's a here's an even better question now that we're on this subject. Uh growing up under Christian parents. Yeah. Being Christian parents, growing up under Christian parents. And this is a good question for your kids, too. Okay. We were like Southern Baptist, yeah, yeah, strict rules when it came to what we watched. I had to sneak a lot of what I watched. A lot of times I had to figure out if it was coming on TV. Like I wanted to watch The Matrix really bad. And that came out in '99. And I was eight. And it was always on FX. Well, I don't even know if it was called. I I don't think it was FX at the time. As the movies. But I had to tape it. I put a tape in, yeah. Tape it. And so if I wanted to watch a movie, um, but but parents were don't take the little uh the little clip off the VHS.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

Otherwise, it's permanent. You do that.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

There's no going back. So they were they were so strict as to like it didn't matter content. If it was PG 13 and you're not 13, you're not seeing it. So so you it's funny you bring up Pirates of the character.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

But once you were 13, did that switch? Yeah. Was it like, but then could you see anything if it was PG 13? R was you know no no no, I'm saying if it was PG 13 and you were 13, yeah, you it was free. PG 13. Hey, that's so it was truly like a hard line, a black and white line.

SPEAKER_00 17:09

Yeah, it and I bet if the law says if you're 13, but but ran it would break randomly, like if my dad wanted to watch, I remember The Mask of Zorro. Somebody at work, yeah. This was PG the The Mask of Zorro, he brought it up, somebody at work brought it up, and then we watched it as a family, and I was like, Does this mean I get to watch all of them? No, that wasn't the case. It was only when he and so like but the first movie that I saw before turning 13, I was 12, and it was Pirates of the Caribbean. So it's funny that you brought brought it up.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

But but like the but you said you couldn't even see it with your parents, so like pipe. I did no, I went to go see that one with my buddy Adrian Martinez, yeah, because I was like nine whenever I saw that, and that's why it that's why it's memorable. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

I think it was the first PG 13 movie I got to see. But yeah, keep going with your well, I just agree with this.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

My my dad's rules were so heavy in my head, yeah, that even at like 12 13 when I'd be at a sleepover and somebody was showing like R-rated movie, I'd be like, I can't, I'm out, I can't watch it. Yeah, and then I think all I had to do was like break that one time, and then it was like floodgates were open. And it was like, oh, I can for you. Yeah, like I could break the head, yeah, anytime. Yeah. And so but I think because they were so strict for like for what I thought to be non like I'll I'll ask you the I'll ask you the question, then I'll get back to like what do I want to do with my kids? What what what were the rules in your house?

SPEAKER_01 18:49

It was pretty uh we were pretty guarded. Pretty it was pretty we were well, no, we were very sheltered, is is how I would explain it.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

So So nine in Pirates of the Caribbean, skeletons and death, and like that's and I think that's why it was so memorable because it was a really big deal.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

I remember we saw this girl from my school or no from church, and she was what a year older than me, and they had just gotten out, and my pants my mom was like asking them about it, like how was it? Was it okay right? Like, was it yeah, was were there scary parts? And I remember just sitting there like thinking that wait, this is crazy. Like my mom's actually considering us going to and then we went and saw it, and I was like, this was incredible, and I was probably a little bit freaked out too. Uh but yeah, we were we were definitely sheltered. Uh I would say I really didn't I really didn't test I didn't test the boundary until I was probably probably like 14. I would say probably a freshman in high school, may maybe like eighth grade. I real I kind of like started fiddling with that line, like you said, where I'd be at friends' houses and um yeah and they'd be watching something and in the past like you I just got less strong about no, we're not watching that. I was like, okay, like we'll we'll watch it. Gave in. I feel like oh, this is so good. What was the first one? It was like the first R-rated movie, yeah. That like I knew I my parents wouldn't approve of me watching, but I watched it anyways. It had to be, it was had to be a Will Farrell movie. Ah for sure. Can I can I say It wasn't Step Brothers, but we might have had the same one.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

Okay. And you're way younger than me, but uh maybe not. I remember mine at least in the movie theater. So like the other rule was, and this was because back in Houston, kids were doing some bad stuff at movie theaters, even 1213. All of my friends in middle school were getting dropped off at the movie theaters, no like supervision.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

That was a thing in Bartlesville, too.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Yeah, and like mom and dad knew what were going on, what was going on. So like they were like, for some reason, the rule felt arbitrary. It was like, well, when you're 14, then you could do it. And it's like, okay. And when I was 14, unsupervised, wedding crashers was the first, like okay, R-rated. Yeah, which like you could see why that as a 14-year-old, it's like there's scenes you're like, yeah, 14-year-old probably shouldn't see this. Or like you hear the error the F word in the movie for the first time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

And then like that was the biggest deal for me. Yeah, cursing was just crazy. And then I and then I got to high school baseball and I was like, Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:39

Well, I just I remember as a kid hearing I my parents m did a really good job keeping me sheltered from other adults. Maybe they had good people around, but like I remember way later and hearing like grown-ups say the F word and being like Like they can't they can't do that. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

And so like because you were you were saying you were sheltered. Like you weren't around it, I think so. You weren't around it much. Same.

SPEAKER_00 22:09

I think so. And then like but in Houston, everything is so like the uh the the the uh forces of the world or whatever are so like everything is it's probably the opposite of Bartlesville, Oklahoma. I mean when you came down to Houston, you even even in Sugarland, like excess, like there's just so much that just like there's a I mean there's so there's so much stuff to do and so like many things that kids can get involved with, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

Which can be helpful, but also can be not helpful. Because yeah, but my my town was the opposite. It was a town, you know, 38,000 people. So not like nothing. There was there were some people there. It was actually a city. Um not but not a lot to do. So then the the problem was was like a lot of people, a lot of friends were doing drugs and drinking, and somehow I just never fell into that. Probably because of the I was just in the super sheltered, and I just wasn't I wasn't a very curious curious about that as a kid. I was like, I'm kind of fine, like I'm having fun. Me and my buddies got into streaking. That that was you. That was that was my rebellion, which is so looking back to it is looking back to it's so weird. How old? What the heck? Um that probably started in seventh or eighth grade. No, yeah, yeah. Yeah, probably middle school is when that started.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

And it was like we In in Oklahoma, not you're not you haven't moved back to Houston at this point.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

Yeah, still enough. I didn't move to Houston until junior year. Oh junior? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

But so Oklahoma streaking Yeah that was that was my Did y'all get caught?

SPEAKER_01 23:57

Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's what well I would say. But in a small town, is it like it didn't really end it? We would so we would be in it to looking back on. Fascinating now, like now you know like it was my form of rebellion, like you know, kids going to a party and drinking or whatever, or having sex or whatever for me, that was the rebellious thing. Because like I knew I knew it didn't run down right, right. And because it started just like we were so again, small town. I had a bunch of friends that lived out in the country, and so it like started out there. We would we would mess around by uh the road, like at night, cars would drive by, and so we would dare each other, like you gotta go run, you gotta go like run naked by the car, and the car's gonna be driving super fast, so like you're gonna they're never gonna see you again. And then it just kind of the dares like kept getting. Did anybody ever stop? And uh yeah, there was yeah, and we would there was one guy that stopped and yelled at we like shined a light in his car, and he he stopped and we were like, Oh my god. And he just stops and he looks back at us as he goes, Don't shine that light in my car again. And we were terrified. We like thought, I mean, we're in the middle of nowhere. I was about to say, where is Bordel? Where is Border Ball? We're freaking out. It's a really beautiful part of the country, uh north northern Oklahoma. Okay. Uh, you know Killers of the Flower Men? Yes, yes. That movie. So it's uh it's right there. Do you like that movie? It's next, it's not in Osage County where that is, but uh but the county right next to it. So it's where Philip66 started. That's that's the that's what that's what put Bartlesville on the map. Oh, it's like up there. Yeah, it's yeah, it's very close to Kansas, which is funny because like I never we never went to Kansas. Yeah, never even realized we were close to Kansas Cash.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

You're probably closer to Wichita than Oklahoma City.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

Oh, it is. Yeah, it definitely is. Yeah, Oklahoma City was like two and a half hours.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

So streaking was your vice.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

But yeah, I guess that yeah, I guess that was my so we would we would again small town. I was on the debate, speech and debate team. Because there's just not a ton of extra. There's just not a ton of extracurriculars uh to do around there. Like we had a basketball team, but I mean it's like we're barely even able to put five people. I was I played I played varsity as an eighth grader for my. I'm sure you're good. There's a big there's a big 6A school that plays like you probably heard of Jinx or Bixby, like those big high schools. Maybe like Jinx is really good at football. There some people in Texas know about them because they're pretty good. Uh but there was a high school that like they were it was big, but I went to this tiny little private school that like shouldn't have even been a thing, like school. So debate. You did it because you were like, I mean, I want to do something with my friends. So we all did debate because you got to go on tournaments, like every other weekend you'd travel to a sit different city and do this. And so, yeah, the debate tournaments, it was always that we'd sneak out of the rooms and we'd go streaking, and uh we were out of the city. And you're in another city, probably for this tournament, another, another small town, but close, but just typically they were all even smaller than ours, like I'm in the middle of nowhere, like 8,000 people in these towns, and there was one school that we it was super late for some reason. The tournament was going late, and we none of us had anything to do, so we're like, we're gonna go streak on the school campus. And so we're like sprinting between buildings, and and when you do it, you you it's not like you keep your clothes with you. No, no, you're gonna be able to do it. Because that's yeah, yeah. That's that's pathetic. Yeah, so yeah, you leave those behind. So we're like spreading from building to building, and one of our teachers saw us, uh, a female teacher, and so she she didn't confront us, which I don't blame her, that'd be really weird.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

And uh Yeah, wait, what do you do if you like how does that work?

SPEAKER_01 28:18

Right, right. And I uh I mean we're seventh, eighth grade, like we're not thinking through that.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

Like, this is exhilarating, but but no, but I'm saying, like, what an awkward thing if it's a female teacher, oh yeah, and you have to confront this naked seventh grader.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

That's what lose lose. That's why she didn't confront us, I guarantee you.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

She if if that's the smart move would be like, okay, they're doing that, let me go call that's what I guess police.

SPEAKER_01 28:49

That's what well no so uh she told she told our coach, who was also the principal of our school, and then it and then he reached out to our parents, and then it became this thing. And I still remember my buddy. Oh, this is so um this is so fun to remember. I remember my buddy, his name was Tucker, Tucker McIntyre. Shout out, shout out Tucker. He calls me, and it was still landlines. You remember having your friend's phone numbers memorized? He calls me, and my mom answers. Oh no, and he was just like, you know, hey, can I talk to Chan? And I I I have no idea that we had gotten caught at this point. And I pick up the phone, I'm like, hey, what's up, man? And he was like, Chandler. Oh no. I was like, Yeah, he was like, uh we got caught streaking, and we uh and and like you know that feeling. Just like my face, just you can feel your face get so hot, lump in your stomach, you're like, oh no, yeah, dude. And because you know you know that your parents are about to find out, like everybody's gonna hammer's about to come down and everyone in the school like already knew that we did, like, like they they thought it was funny, and it was like this whole this whole thing, and uh, but yeah, so then so then I figured out, and on Monday, we all had to go meet uh the principal individually, and it was like we would be passing each other in the hallway as one would be leaving, we'd all have to be going, and we'd be kind of smiling, but also panicked, and scared. We would like try to whisper each other to get our stories the same.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

Yeah, what kind of story did you have to get to?

SPEAKER_01 30:31

I think uh I think I think it was either Tucker, my other friend Bo Sparks. One of them was like underwear, underwear. And I like and I caught on, so of course we go lie, we were like, Yeah, we're in our underwear, and like somehow we all got on the same story, but it didn't matter. They're like they're like, We don't we don't care. Like you oh, they didn't care. You no, we don't care that that if you were in your underwear, like they didn't it didn't matter regardless. You're getting a punishment no matter what. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it did you ran our lie was on our lie was pointless, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:01

Um you were trying to make it not so severe, like as like bear probably butt necked, like would be way worse.

SPEAKER_01 31:08

You're just doing anything you can to like make hopefully the consequences aren't as severe.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Dude, so I know exactly you kind of yeah, you you you try and like massage the story to make it a little bit more deliverable.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

Yeah, you're like maybe we because at this point we're like how I mean how serious is are they gonna take this? Yeah, did you think we get kicked out of school? Like, what's and I we didn't think so. Private school. We were it was private school, but we were some of the like better kids. The more we were like we were the more well we were the so we were like, I mean, there I mean, there were kids at our school that were doing ridiculous and they wouldn't get expelled. So we were like, I don't think that's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

The principal was like, if we kick Chandler out, we're gonna have four guys on our basketball team. Right, right. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

And they were tolerating so much other stuff. So that was so that was that was that story.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

That was that phase of life. Did you win the did you win at all at those debate tournaments? I'm curious because I went to one in middle school, and I remember what the environment was like for debate or for speech? So which I think they call it something different. I was in acting, I did act, I did drama, yeah, and they had they had like in Houston at these debate, um, which a lot of kids got in trouble at these debate things. Uh yeah, like I mean it's because it's a lot of like kind of strange kids. Yeah, and well, and just like a lot of like unlike they would do the travel outside of the state. I didn't go to those, yeah, and then staying in hotels. Yes, and so it's like that's where a lot of that would happen.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

That's why that's why it was fun. That's like why we everybody did it.

SPEAKER_00 32:58

Way from home, no rules. Yeah, we did. I went to one in the city, so like it we didn't have to stay at a hotel, but it was like all day. For some reason, in the in the the tur tournament or whatever, inside inside the uh the high school or you know, whatever, inside the brackets of tournaments or whatever, one of the comp pieces of competition was like improvisation. So it was like they let the drama kids go. Um, and so that's my only recollection. So it's like I wasn't a part of the debate kids, but I was curious to see like if you if y'all like y'all did y'all run shop whenever you're yeah, it was fun. Did you like go win and then actually let's go get naked and run around?

SPEAKER_01 33:43

It actually was really fun. Uh I did uh humorous interpretation and humorous duet were the ones that and then um what it what what is and then prose. What is what is the humorous so uh so I'll let me start with prose. Prose was basically like reading a story. Yeah, uh you essentially had to have it memorized, like you didn't really want to look at your lines, but you like that was a part of it. You'd have the lines in front of you and you'd like flip through them. Yeah. Um, and then humorous interpretation was you didn't have the lines in front of you. But basically the same thing, you had to stay still, but you could like move your body more, whereas prose it was supposed to be more like you were reading, less like moving around, less acting. And then humorous duet was actually acting, you had two you had two chairs as props. That was all you could have. Oh, two doors. That's what I did. Yeah, yeah. So you had you had one other person, and it was fun. It was it was actually a good time.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

Oh me and my buddy and then people would be in the classrooms watching as you were doing. Yeah, yeah. That was a good one. I mean, it'd be nerve-wracking.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

Like all these people would be in there, and you're sitting there, you're like, All right, we're seventh to go. And you gotta see everybody going one at a time, and you're sitting there, like kind of sweat, you're like, Oh gosh, dang. Don't want to forget a line. Um I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it, but it was most of it was like it was what you and your buddies would be. It was a way to go and do something fun, get out of town, and uh and compete. Like, we'd still get competitive with it, even though I wouldn't say that we were we weren't like suit. I think that's why we liked it because we kind of like messed around about it and we had this like kind of confident, like cocky, like we're gonna beat everybody.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

Like that that guy in the Bartlesville boys.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

We them boys, uh but yeah, what a time. What a time.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

Well, it I what I was getting so streaking rebellion. Did you did your pa this is going back to like it sounds like your parents looked more at the content if they were letting you watch at nine a PG 13, they were looking more at the content rather than like the hey it says PG 13, so that means you can't see it until you're 13. Yeah, but then we were going and watching Harry Potter, which like most Christian Baptist houses were like absolutely not, yeah. And so it's like thinking about see because like I love I love movies and w and like George loves Spider-Man, right? Right, and so I when he can actually understand a plot line, would love to like yeah, show him like the old Spider-Man and then like the Toby Maguire version and then the Andrew Garfield version, and then you know, uh and then Homecoming and like in the new the new versions, and so uh not and they're all pretty sure they're all PG 13, so it's like I want to definitely look at the content and um like like when I turned 13 I I went and saw the ring, right?

SPEAKER_01 36:59

Like but I mean how how do you think you'll handle that?

SPEAKER_00 37:03

It depends.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

I mean I know our kids are still pretty young. I mean I made it coming.

SPEAKER_00 37:07

I made it George's yeah, a year or two away from that. I made it hard on my parents because I s when I saw a rule, I really, really wanted to like push past it, and I eventually just like exhausted them.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

Yeah, and so like whenever it was like PG 13, it felt like the un the like untouchable thing to like go and see it and like what do you what do you think would have helped for your personality for it to stick, like why your parents are because it sounds like they just had this rigid number of nope, it's PG 13 for a reason, you're not supposed to go see it, so no, you're not gonna watch it. What do you think would have helped your personality to want to listen?

SPEAKER_00 37:44

Shout out, mom and dad, y'all did a good job. Love y'all, but I think I think what would have helped was like an examination of like, hey, he really like loves movies, and maybe we should look into this movie or this movie if he wants like I was wanting to see Ocean's 11, bro. Yeah, and like the one bad part about that movie that makes it a PG 13 movie is one F-word. That's it, yeah. Like, and I get it, and like you could just like figure out when that part is and cover my ears, or just like or say, like, hey son, they're gonna say a bad word, don't repeat it. Like, I think maybe a little bit more attunement to like my desires because I just felt like it was like a blanket, like, nope, you just nothing, not not gonna happen. And so it made me like eventually want to break past that, and like, and then like once I figured out I could just like watch whatever and then them not know, it was like then I was watching Tarantino movies and just like all just and just like like eating up all of this, and like there were no rules, and so it's like I think I would have better, I think with our kids, I want a better steward. Like, hey, this is a good movie. I want you to see it. These are the things you're gonna see. Like, if I at it as long as it's a pro age appropriate, right, you know, like like um uh yeah, just like better, better attunement to my like my seeing their interests and figuring out how you can work within that, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

But also because I would exhaust shepherd their their eyes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 39:24

I because I would exhaust them to the point where it's like I feel like you're this rule is just because it says 13. I want to see everything that that you're saying. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 39:35

Yeah, probably the the spectrum of ratings is crazy, it's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 39:39

Like I said, when I turned 13, they're like, okay, go ahead. And it was like I had no business at 13 years old watching the ring, bro. Uh-huh. Like, or any other like borderline R-rated horror movie that they slapped a PG 13 rating on it because it probably had demonic stuff and like all the stuff I shouldn't have consumed. And so um yeah, I don't know. That's it is a good, it's a good conversation that like that um I don't know what what do you what you you didn't feel that from your parents, but like what what as far as like stuff to consume. Also, the other thing too, things are getting more like R rated back then is probably much more mild now than R-rated now.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

Yeah. I I feel like I remember when we were kids, R-rated was typically like violence and gore.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:38

Like uh and probably language too. Yeah, but the language was nothing like it is now. Now in the in the Netflix era, it's like anything goes. So much. If it's R-rated, so much, it's there's so much of it. Um but yeah, I remember as a kid, like my parents would actually I would actually probably watch more R-rated movies as a kid than PG 13. Really? Yeah, because it it was typically like the saving private Ryan, Braveheart, that kind of thing that we were watching. So they were selective about what it was. So you call it. I just remember, you know, like yeah, yeah. I mean, probably when I was like 12 or so. Strong. Um, yeah, but so good. Like they they were they were pretty chill with and I'm sure they I'm sure they watched where I was. They were they let me watch a lot of uh a lot more of the war movies and that that sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, the Patriot, yeah. All the gosh, there were so many back then, gladiator. Uh I remember the first like intense movie uh as a kid was uh Lord of the Rings, and I remember feeling so proud. I'm kind of getting us off track here, but just feeling so proud. I watched it by myself. I can't remember how old I was. Um toward 2003, but like I was so I felt so proud. Which which one I could sat through that thing all alone. Um Fellowship, Two Towers, or Return of the It would have been uh it would have been Fellowship of the Ring. 2003? Yeah, yeah. You were nine because it would have it was the it was the ring wraiths, and I remember being super proud that I sat through that, and then also the um the Horok Highs, whenever they're like making making those guys, and I like I got through part one, extended edition. I like I remember I went to my parents, I was like, I just watched the whole thing. Big Bobby Tolkien yeah, yeah, anyways, uh but yeah, and like PG 13, I watched a lot less of those because I feel like well, stepbrothers would have been R, but like a lot of those movies um I feel like fell in the PG 13, and they tended to be more sexual, yeah. And that's what my parents were a lot more cautious of was great, was this that that and the partying and and it's only more sexualized now, so it's just like yeah, dude, yeah. And now there's no I mean, there's no like everything, yeah, like we were saying a second ago, it doesn't matter what you watch, like that it all has language, like we don't even notice it anymore. Like we're we'll just sit there and watch it, and you have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 43:27

Did I did I tell you the first time that I came out of rehab? That's another story for another time. Yeah, yeah. That'll be another story. But 2017 90 day facility, treatment facility. So in rehab, I you probably didn't, I've never told you this. They changed the rules while I was in rehab. They got tighter. They were like it's like in the process of making it better.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

The rehab did the facility.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

Yes. And probably week two, they were like no idea. Yeah, probably Stone Gate. Yeah. I had no idea. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. Uh probably two weeks in, they were like, hey, we're gonna implement a new rule. No cursing. And it's faith-based rehab, so you're like, okay, I get it. Like we want to, you know, watch what watch where we talk. And so post two weeks all the way through 90 days, like I didn't really hear. You know, I got used to like clean language. Yeah. And I and it's funny that you say that now, how like you could turn on a Netflix show and you're like, okay, need to be careful what I look at. Like, does it have any sex scenes? Is it crazy? Okay, no sex scenes. All right, that's a win. Language, okay, whatever. And they're just dropping F bombs left and right. You're like not even phased right now. Dude, when I got out of rehab and I heard the first F word, I was like, Yeah, you're right. Because it was so I was so like detoxed from like from that in like how you know normalized it is in right, you know what I mean? And like, yeah, but you know I think I'll just I I don't know. It depends on his interest back to your question. It depends on his interest, right? It depends on their interest.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

Right now, they're just they want to watch stimulating Disney movies and animation, and yeah, yeah, it's a it's a little bit easier, but I mean there you gotta be careful with that stuff nowadays, too. Because there's sneaky things going on, sneaky uh content that they try to try to push out there and which almost makes it harder because then because then it's how do you even see it? Like do you ever use uh it's a good resource, plugged in? No, I was common sense media was the other one. Is that another one? Is it like a question-based like tell me what's through focus on the family? So it's uh plugged in? They give plugged in, yeah. So they give the movie reviews and they'll like list all of the what you're gonna see. Yeah, what you're what you're gonna see. Um so that for a for parents, it's a resource for parents so that they can they can figure out, okay, if should my should my kids see, are they mature enough to go see this thing? But a lot of those the cartoons that our kids are watching, like they they don't their resources are not that great. So like they're not reviewing everything. So like hardly any of those have yeah have stuff. So it's we always default right now to things we watched as a kid that like we know yeah, that we know are well you you're just with the Disney movies.

SPEAKER_00 46:52

What I'm seeing for like George is I'm struggling to find any new great male leads. Yeah, it's not not saying that a good female beat lead isn't bad because I definitely want Nora to see that. But like you want, yeah. I want him to be able to look at like a Hercules type lead and be like, like right now, I guess right now it is Spider-Man, but that's not like you know, it's like a that's a show and it's you know a movie he could watch later, but yeah. Um yeah, like wait, you have Lion King, dude. They're gonna grow up in a whole different world with the technology. Like, like we're gonna, I mean, Danny's gonna be able to know where George andora at. I mean, say Danny, I am too, but Danny's definitely gonna be more of the like staying on top of the here's your location.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

Oh, like for being at friends' house and things.

SPEAKER_00 47:43

Yeah, I'm just like thinking about everything, everything I got away with. I mean, like, dude, you're yeah, your parents would have known that you're walking around naked in like all these different schools.

SPEAKER_01 47:53

But do you think that do you think that will be beneficial?

SPEAKER_00 47:57

I don't know. I kind of want to stay, I kind of want to do the it sounds like you had a good like trust-building relationship with your parents where where they could be like, yeah, go to Bo Spark's house. Everything's gonna be fine. I know Bo's parents, and that's we we will grow up, like we were talking when I was driving away from Wendy's Fort Worth. We're gonna have a good netting of parent friendships where everybody's all of our kids are gonna be friends, and it's gonna be pretty easy to stay on top of them. Will that be good? I don't know. Like, are they gonna all team up and be like, our parents are all friends, we need to figure out how to like get you know get away with something. Yeah. To answer your question, I don't I think the the goal would be to create trust enough to not need it.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think I think a kid kids are going to they're they're going to um like they're gonna do mischievous things. Regardless, no matter what. And I think if you set too firm of a boundary, a lot of a lot of kids, people that I talk to, yeah, exactly. They butt up against that and they they want to rebel against it. Whereas so so you know, a conversation I hear all the time is what do you think about sleepovers? And what do you think about? I always I always I I am very pro-sleepover. You're pro-sleepover. I am if in what what you said, what you said is perfect. If you if I know the environment that they're going to, like the family environment, yeah. I know that like like you said, my parents, they knew the sparks, yeah, they knew the McIntyres. I mean, do they know everything about about them? No, but they at least like trust that they're trying to bring them up in a similar way.

SPEAKER_00 50:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

And and did we is that where uh I learned things that I you know should could have been could have um been protected from? Sure. Absolutely. Like, because that's what people always tell me that are we could go on peep people that always tell me that are that are very anti-sleepover, that's what they talk about. They're like nothing good comes from it, it's only bad. I'm anti and I and I totally agree. Yeah, the the bad thing, like even and we'll just stick with it because we already talked about it on this episode, like the streaking that started from hanging out with those guys and sleepovers, and then um, and then you know, started watching movies that we shouldn't have been watching, and then I slowly started seeing some of my friends slip further and further. Hey, here's a computer. Yeah, somehow, by the grace of God, had a point where I was like, I gotta put up a wall. Like, I I started seeing the substances and things like sneakily come about, and so I kind of distanced myself from that. Um but I'm still pro. But I'm still pro because I feel like either way you go about it, there's still like we're just as humans, like we have to we have to learn.

SPEAKER_00 51:26

Totally, but we have to learn. But but the argument to that is doing everything you can to control while they're under your roof.

SPEAKER_01 51:35

Meaning, like I'm not in control though. We're we are not in control, and that's and that's where I come. Like, no matter how much I protect them, logistically, they are eventually going to experience the world that's just going to happen. And I understand they're young and their brains are not formed, and all of that. And and to like I'm saying, it's still like you're still kind if if I don't feel good about any environment that they would go sleep up, then no, I would say no sleep. I think that's why I feel really good. Like it's it's uh at that point. I mean, where our kids are different, yeah different genders, but if we if we both had boys and they're the same, yeah, the same age. You feel comfortable, yeah. Yeah, I would be like, that's fine. Like I because I know that you guys are also not gonna be absent, yeah, and you would feel this like I know that for sure. I know that John and Danny aren't just going to complete like y'all are gonna let them play and whatever. Go play, but you're still gonna be like kind of checking in things. Yeah, you're there.

SPEAKER_00 52:48

While they're under while they're while they're here, I see it as part of like a like you know, you you're entrusting your kids to us, so we see it as a form of discipleship in whatever manner or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 53:04

Yes, but yeah, give me but give me your gone.

SPEAKER_00 53:08

The one argument is um maybe this is maybe this is to your point as far as like when you said you if you don't feel good about the situation. Yeah. I went to kids' houses that my parents knew their parents, and maybe not as like as far as faith goes, not as tight as like we are, or like how we have it in Fort Worth, but well enough to know that like you know they wouldn't be okay with porn or they wouldn't be okay with like smoking weed or any of that, right? Um but they didn't know the other kids that were coming, and the other kids that were coming, my parents didn't know. Yeah, and so like maybe it's a maybe it's a a more of like I still don't think that applies. Listen, I still don't think that applies to our situation because let's say let's say if our if Lucy and James were flipped as far as gender goes and like George and you know, say sleepovers. Yeah, I s I still think I would have high trust that you're like paying attention to the kids that are coming in. Yeah, because like I was at I was at sleepovers where that's true, where where there were other kids and they were like, I got this, or let me show you something.

SPEAKER_01 54:41

Yeah, and it's usually always there's always usually a couple of those.

SPEAKER_00 54:44

Yes, yeah, and so it's like and that and it's like starts off super innocent, but when the doorways open, then it's like and then you'll start to see like friend groups kind of split. Yeah, and so exactly and run, and then you're like these kids are running hard that way. Uh-huh. And so uh but yeah, I think I think I think my argument is like things you're right, you're not in control, so things can happen without you like really even knowing and being super surprised of like, oh really, I've I would find it hard. This is ultimate I'm rambling, but I ultimately I think I'd find it hard if let's say George is having a sleepover and it's like six or seven of his buddies. I'd find it hard that I would just like in our house, something happened at a sleepover, meaning like one of the kids brought picture or one of the kids brought it, well, yeah, pictures, we're not in 1998. One of the kids brought like a one of the kids brought like an iPad and was like, hey, look at this. Yeah I'd find it hard to to to think that I would let that like I would like I feel like and Danny would dep Danny's got hawkeye. She'd be like, he brought iPad over. We're gonna make sure that that iPad that iPad's not with them when they go, when they make their palette in the living room. Like I find it hard to think that I would let that slide. But once again, yeah, you know, maybe we should have my dad on the podcast. I felt like I was getting away with a lot that like I was sneaking away with, and like sometimes we'll talk about certain things and he'll say, like, no, I know you were doing that. I just like couldn't stop you or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 56:32

Right. And so that's a the iPad example is a good one.

SPEAKER_00 56:35

You that's the other thing, too, is like, when are we gonna, you know, I mean, you could we could go on and on about like our experience growing up, yeah, boundaries, and then now what our kids are gonna grow up with. But like I think that and how Satan opens the door to those things totally in a moment of innocence. I've been praying about that. That was like the prayer tonight. It was like, gosh, I just pray that I pray God that you would keep our like keep like you look at our kids and like they're so innocent. I know, and I pray that that innocence like stays a long time. Like, I am not ready for the day that that like yeah, either there's extreme pain experienced or yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 57:19

Right. Yeah, I mean it's very weighty just thinking about raising them because you you do think about all right, what are the ways that I can just shelter them completely and keep all harm out of their life? But then you know, they become an adult or they go to college or whatever, and that's when their eyes are opened, and then they like I what you just said is perfect, like prayer is is ultimately the the greatest thing that we that we can do because we we can't control everything. I mean, you could do everything right, and you know, we're just we have a sin nature and uh our hearts want to wonder and uh yeah, golly, that's that's it's a lot to think about. We can go on and on. And I mean, I feel you're probably getting more there. You're I mean, you're George's what only a year ahead of Lucy. Maybe five in a couple weeks. But I mean, I I I mentioned it to Emery tonight um with just Lucy. I was like, she is right on this edge where like when I talk to her, it's like there's a little piece of me that's like you're like a little person now. But then but then she'll kind of babble and like say something that you can't really understand what she's saying, and I'm like, okay, you're still a little kid.

SPEAKER_00 58:44

Yeah, you're still no George is still George's. I I probably say that like I could see it quicker in Nora, because I think girls just yeah grow up faster. Yeah. Uh George is still, and you go to their baseball games and you see a bunch of little four and five-year-old boys, dude, they're wacky. Like they're just like just messing around, yes, dude. Rolling around, like they just like they're literally just hitting each other with hats. Yeah. And you're like trying to separate them, and then like you take these two and put them over here, but then they find other kids over there, and like it's actually quite funny because it's like I didn't start playing t-ball until I was six. These they're four and five. They don't even know that they're supposed to beat the other team, yeah. But there's always one kid who kind of gets it, yeah. And you put him at pitcher, and the ball's hit to him, then he goes and runs over to first base, and that's the only way you're getting out. Because other than that, it's gonna roll into the abyss of four and five-year-olds, and they're just gonna fall on it. They pile on it, and then you get one kid who's like, I got the ball. So good. But so that yeah, like yeah, I'll see glimpses, but for the most part, it's just like him just being goofy, like just being running around playing action heroes.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:01

Yeah, I mean, it's probably a kid by kid thing, but probably too a little bit more of girls. Because Lucy, you know her. She's just always been uh communicator, a talker. Like she started she started talking, like saying her words so much earlier than James. Yeah, that's a girl thing. Like I think it's totally a girl thing. She was just always interested, wanted uh to speak. Yeah. But uh this has been good.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:31

It's a good chop, this is a good chop-up session. This is good. This is really good. And I mean, we went, how do it's crazy. Yeah, like I'm I'm excited to go back and listen and see how we got to where we got. I mean, movies kind of got us.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:44

Well, I just like I just like I think this is the cadence that I like. Right. You know, oh yeah, because it somehow flowed into something, you know, something serious and meaningful and yeah, but also tied into like the nostalgia of childhood. Exactly. I think I think the Halloween candy here kind of put me onto that. But but this I think it's a good idea to do this. You lay a groundwork and then you have the people of Fort Worth on. Yeah. I like squirrels. What about what about squirrels? We're talking squirrels. I was driving out of my neighborhood before we end it. I was driving out of my neighborhood, and I was telling you that I think the squirrels in my neighborhood are uh probably overpopulated because they're very dumb and they don't have fear of cars or humans, and there's always a dead squirrel running out. And I asked I asked you before if you had to like if if you had to fight, if you had to fight, and I think about this because I think about this with animals a lot, and one of my biggest fears is being at the zoo, and Nora or George slips through like the monkey cage, and I gotta go, I gotta go fight a gorilla. Yeah. I'm not even worried about the kid because like I know I'm just down to toss them up. Well, I'm jumping down, like I'm going wherever they are. It doesn't that there's no question about that. It's just like, how do I want to go? Like, do I want to get like chopped up by a lion or like slugged by a gorilla? And so like I think about fighting animals quite a bit because uh like wow, like far more than any normal dad. Yeah, uh, the worst case scenario is a polar bear, but we'll get into that another time. But uh Nora likes to chase squirrels in the backyard, and these squirrels really don't move, and so in my head, I'm like, man, am I gonna have to fight a squirrel if she gets too close? And then it tries to like like like you know, like come up on her. Yeah, and then I thought, like, how many squirrels? Like, if I start fighting one, like they're they're probably gang gang, you know what I mean? They're probably like buds, so they're like, we gotta go help Jimmy down there, yeah, you know, and so like I don't know why the squirrel, but they're like the in competition for the same nuts, but like when they see the human, like like I'm imagining fighting one squirrel and then they pile up and either stand on each other's shoulders to like match up, or like, and I don't know what the attack is, but in my head, I was like, that's fine, because they're just squirrels, and like I could just like squeak, like you know, like I'll do something, but like how many do you think it would take to take you down? That's the question.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:38

It's tough. That's a real but no, that's it is that is that's a tough one because at first I want to be like, oh dude, I could take on a I could take on a thousand of them, but then if you start thinking they're all going to be biting you, yeah. And that's I mean, even if you have like twenty of them all biting you at the same time, I mean that'd be pretty hard to fight them off. And they're so small, like you can't it's not like you can just rid them all at once. Um I'm gonna find a picture of 20.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:11

I'm gonna try and find a picture of what's what is the like do I have to kill them all? Oh, that's a good question. I I think I think at this point they have decided that it's either you or them. It's you oh man. Like like it's either you and past you is your family. So it's like now your squirrels are coming with your family.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:32

All right, well that's like you you have to my family can't get inside, everybody's locked out, locked out in this in this backyard. Like nobody can jump the fence. You're stuck. If if I if they get me through my whole family, I'm done.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:52

And they are you're the last, you're the last line of of defense, and these guys are like, all right, like it's like zombie squirrels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'll do anything. Yeah, I I think man, I think I I feel like uh if it's in the double digits, I'm still fine. Yeah, no, I agree. Because I feel like what I would do was I would hug a bunch and then just jump really high into the air and then just squish them like underneath my belly, and I would keep doing that. Oh my the mental picture I'm getting is so good. But don't worry, they're not getting to your family unless you're dead. Yeah, you know what I mean? And we don't have to get we don't have to get no. I think I I think 25. No, there's no dude, you're getting you got you can handle 25. I mean, think about I mean all these things are going nuts for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:45

Yeah, I'm just thinking at trying to rip at your jugular, everything. I don't know, man. 25 is a lot, I guess. I think if they are to like if it's the picture you've paid attention where they are so to like they're like, this is what This is our life goal to kill this guy. If it's just normal squirrels and they're just like upset, then I'm like, yeah, a hundred of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if their like goal is to do this, I think like 25. Because you get a nut, you get you get 15 of those things biting you all over your body. I think you gotta punt a couple first.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:21

Oh, yeah, yeah. That'd be the that'd be the first one. Flailing, yeah, punt. Yeah. So you think 25? I think a hundred. I mean, we're we are never ever gonna know. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:32

So you're gonna go big. Yeah, you're going big.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:34

We're we're never gonna know.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:36

I mean, a hundred would be like they're on you and like a couple feet off of you, because there's so many of them. Oh, that's a hundred. I think so. I mean, they're decent size. I would double layer. They have breath. Yeah. Breath. They do. Bushy tail breath. Breath. Anyway. But but yeah, that's what I about threw my mic on the ground. Just another maybe I'm just not confident in my squirrel fighting. No, you and I need to have more confidence.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:07

Maybe if I saw 25 squirrels packed together, I probably would feel different. I I'm probably not having you ever seen that many.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:14

I mean, what's the most you've seen together? Probably five. Yeah, five or six. Yeah. But they're so fast, and they're like, Yeah, and those claws, man. Those things are sharp. They're digging around. They're super fast. Good luck. That's all I'm saying. I'd pay to see it. I'd pay to see it.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:34

Just the great Monday night.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:38

Yeah, that's good. Give me, give me a good father, win, or fail.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:41

Oh, put me on the spot. To close it out. Yeah. Father, win, or fail. Um we let we let George I feel like it's a win. A lot of time, a lot of the time we put them down. And recently it's been recently it's been putting him down to watch the World Series. And most of the time I'll say he'll say, but you know, like, I want to stay up and watch baseball. And a lot of time he just needs to go to bed because he just he needs to sleep. Um I say this, I guess it's not necessarily like a because it was more, it was it was coaxed by Danny. She was like when I put Nora down, I walked in and George was like, Hey, mommy said that I get to stay up a little bit and watch sports with or watch baseball with you. Yeah. And I was like, That's cool. Baseball was over, but I was like, but we can watch football. Yeah. And it was the Chiefs, Chiefs, Bills game. And so we like, you know, for like 15 minutes before he started getting wired and tired, and it was like time for him to go down, but gave me a good glimpse into like Yeah, hey, this could be a thing, you know, this is a cool thing. Eventually, and then it, you know, got me fired up for 2026.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:13

Fired up. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:15

What about you? I don't know if that's a is that a win? Like, is that a I feel like that's a win. I was trying to think of a fail.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:21

No, no, no, no. You never fail. No, that's not true. No, you gave a you gave a fail last time, I think.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:28

Did I? Yeah. I think so. What what what what what do you what comes to mind for you? Win or fail?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:33

Oh man, stomach bug.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:36

Yeah, that's not a I mean, is that a fail?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:40

Uh it's a relatable thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:43

Of just like it just it's a it feels like the man feels like the body's failing.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:48

It's not necessarily a fail, but by stomach bug, our one and a half year old, it would he had his first stomach bug last week. Golly. Poor guy, man. It was a war zone just feels like in his crib.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:03

Just feels like coffin of the city. And I just walked in there.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:05

Yeah, I walked in there, and then he I had to give him a bath because it was that bad. Yeah, that's right. Like it was everywhere. And um I took him to the bath and I was bathing him, and he still has to sit in this little uh like a bath chair that keeps him propped up so he doesn't fall over. And he was just slouched, head just straight down at the about the entire time that I did it. Didn't cry, didn't like you could tell probably didn't have anything left in him, bro. He was so tired. And then we went and we laid him down. He just rolls over, goes straight to sleep, and then he threw up again in about 10 minutes later. Bro, that time was not as bad, so like we just cleaned it up and then like laid him, and he just wanted to just lay over.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:51

Throwing up as a workout for one and a half year old, he just did like a full-body Iron Man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:58

Oh, dude. It was it was rough. And we've really we have gotten super lucky with that stuff with stomach bugs um until this year. This ever since like June, we it's I feel like it's every two weeks. We build an immune something, yeah. But like Lucy, her entire like nothing, maybe one we had one stomach bug through her first like two and a half years of life, and then yeah, this year has just been it's the worst.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:28

It's one of those things I would relate to when you like even as you're talking about it to me now, you can think about how bad it was, but when you're in it, it feels like it feels like similar to first kid no sleeping, like emotional, emotionally hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:47

It's so it's emotional, it's so hard. Yeah, you're sitting there and you're like, Yes, there's a little piece of you that's like, uh, maybe it's in my head. Like when it first starts coming on, you're like, maybe it's in my head, maybe I'm making this up, and then you're like, no, like my stomach's pretty tight, like it just feels heavy, dark. Like, what's gonna what's going on? And then and then eventually it finally happens, and you're like, you're like, yes, relief, but then it builds back up again, and then it happens again. Yeah, and then you're and then anytime my kids get sick now, I'm just like, oh no.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:26

I used to think people were too I used to think people were too cautious over that.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:31

And it's until it happened, I'm like, you don't want to show up to this event because somebody had this a month ago. I totally get it. Yeah, you don't want to, right? It's like you don't want to bring the wrath of hell into your house. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:45

Oh, golly. And then it just goes boom, yeah, dominant. Person after person after person, and it's like you just know it's coming. You're like, there's nothing, bro. It's just like and all I want to go do is eat a baconator, but I know if I do that, then I'm gonna get sick, and then that I'm never gonna want to eat a baconator again.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:05

Oh, you don't do the to heck with this?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:08

No. I I do the so today Emery actually had to talk me into eating what sounded good to me. I was looking at all this food and I was like, oh, those chips look good. Oh, that uh salami looks good, but I was like, but I just have a feeling I'm gonna get sick, and I don't I don't want to ruin that food. Are you sick now? And um no. No, no, okay. No, I don't. I I I just did convince myself that I was gonna get sick. So yeah, I take that. That's the approach I take. But to heck with this. Woo! All right. Just another Monday. We got through this is number two. Number two. It was good talking stomach bugs. All right, everybody stay healthy out there. Just go have fun, having another Monday night. Keep those kids tucked in tight. All right, we'll see y'all next week.