TURN UP with Pastor Charlie

Unity is the Heartbeat With Nick Nye

River Radio Season 2 Episode 17

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Nick Nye is the Executive Director of For Columbus, a collaborative city movement focused on uniting churches, nonprofits, and community leaders across Columbus, Ohio. 

Under his leadership, the organization works to strengthen partnerships that serve the city through faith-based collaboration and practical community impact. 

For Columbus exists to help local churches and leaders work together rather than in isolation, building a shared vision for the flourishing of the city. 

Nick plays a key role in developing relationships, coordinating initiatives, and fostering unity among diverse organizations. 

His leadership emphasizes collective action, spiritual renewal, and long-term transformation across the Columbus region.  

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SPEAKER_03

Make the gospel powerful and palatable to a society who's longing for unity and they're longing for harmony, but they can't find it in anything else. And they should be able to find it in the gospel that we've discredited the gospel. We've made the power of the gospel weak because we said, you know what, we can't have unity when that's the very heartbeat of the gospel. Hands and say, okay, it's great that we're praying. We want to keep doing that. But how do we actually turn this into hands-on action? Like we want to get to work. Manifestation. Yep. Younger leaders, Generation Z, Generation E, even Generation Alpha, they do not have the same hangups that boomers, Gen Xers have when it comes to collaboration.

SPEAKER_00

Very true.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. And that the whole point for Columbus exists is because they're not. They're doing their own things and they're in their own worlds, and we're missing out on incredible opportunity.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, I agree 100%. Welcome to Turn Up with Pastor Charlie. I am your host, and we would like to say thank you to the River Radio Podcast Studio for the space that we now occupy to broadcast to the world wide. To our visionary Burton Stephanie Lindsay and the Lindsay Foundation and all of our partners, local church, schools, 501c3s, nonprofit organizations, and all of those who have come beside us, all for the well-being of the community. We say thank you. Today I'm so excited. I'm always excited about my guests, but my guest today in the studio that is joining me is Nick Nye. He is the executive director for Columbus. Nick, say hello to the watching and listening audience.

SPEAKER_03

Hello, I'm glad to be here.

SPEAKER_01

All right, great. Nick is a lead pastor as well, but why don't you share a little bit about yourself, Nick? Just tell the people who is Nick Nye.

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah, right now my role is uh is multifaceted, but you know, the thing I I love getting to wake up to do is um really see this thing called a a gospel city movement where we're seeing the church, we're seeing the parachurch in the in the nonprofit space and marketplace, business entrepreneurs, leaders, entrepreneurs and leaders really collaborating together to uh embody John uh uh John 17, Jesus Prayer, that we be one so that the world would know. Amen. Amen.

SPEAKER_01

So uh also you have Lee pastor as well.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so right now I'm serving as interim pastor at a church, and um yeah, I've been serving as a as a pastor in some capacity for almost 23 years.

SPEAKER_01

And you married and family?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, my wife, Brittany, and I have been married for 21 years, and we've got four kids, uh one one in college right now, so we're learning all the transitional stuff right now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that can get a little challenging there. So on a personal note, uh Nick, what what caused you to um formulate for Columbus? And I like to emphasize FOR Columbus when I when I share with people and they say, What are you? I say for Columbus, and I was like F O R.

SPEAKER_03

F O R, yes.

SPEAKER_01

What what what transpired? What what was built up in your heart to start this?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so I I planted a church in um called Veritas in the short north, and uh we have multiple locations of that church, and one of the the um kind of starting points for me was we had our staff team, we were reading this book by Eric Swanson and Sam Williams called To Transform a City. Okay, and it really gave this vision of like what does it look like um to embody transformation beyond just a single congregation. And so that really got me thinking a ton. And I sort of jokingly say I had this sort of city conversion where um I was always obsessed with just how the city ecosystem worked and artists and business and um and entertainment and all the things, but I was really, I really became um sort of uh just fascinated with the idea of like what if what if that was actually a kingdom category that that Jesus is trying to create that we are missing in our today? Yeah, yeah. And so I uh began to start exploring that. And um, of course, there was other people kind of promoting that, like Kevin Palau and even the late Tim Keller and others who were um Ray Bachy and some theologians were thinking about this and talking about this in a way where I just kind of went down this rabbit hole of what does it look like to see holistic city renewal, not just you know, for a single cause or issue, not just for a single neighborhood, but how does it all work together to really kind of take the the tide of the kingdom of God and see it rise so that all boats can rise?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's great. Um I know I've been to several meetings with uh of for Columbus, and they tell the story of how it got started and how much prayer was baked into this at the very beginning by others. Can you share just a little bit about that?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, our history is is so complicated and and beautiful. Um, because really it's I I would say our work really has come off the um shoulders of just incredible uh prayer warriors, incredible um thinkers and pastors and um business folks that have really been um working through Mission Columbus, through Mission Increase, through Pray for Columbus, through Catalyst for Columbus.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And we we we think everything we do is baked in prayer, saturated in prayer. I mean, this really is kind of started in in it we always say it was like it really started as a prayer movement, and we believe that every movement of God is preceded by a movement of prayer. And so we start there, but we began to see in a lot of these prayer meetings that many people were sort of raising their hands and saying, okay, it's great that we're praying. We want to keep doing that. But how do we actually turn this into hands-on action? Like we want to get to work. Yep. And so that that's really where kind of the four Columbus sort of juices started flowing, you know, where we're like, okay, this could be something more than just a um just a prayer movement. I don't want to say just a prayer movement, but it could be something tangible and put put our hands to the plow and actually get to work of like revolving around how do we how do we serve the city? How do we share the gospel with the city and evangelism? How do we um really bring um just relational impact? So those questions started really arising out of that season.

SPEAKER_01

Now, how long ago was that?

SPEAKER_03

Uh, this would have probably been around 2011 and then around 2014, Catalyst for Columbus and Pray for Columbus sort of started to really do congregational stuff. But even going back to 2000, um 2000, it with Mission Columbus, I mean, they started really, really kind of working with a lot of um nonprofits in the city and and really working with them. However, there's this really fascinating book that um our friend Ursula Kemp, yeah, um, who I know has been on. She she turned me on to this book um called The Great Awakening of Columbus, Ohio in 1895. That book became for me a little bit of uh uh obsession to read and understand. It's a kind of a story of um how awakening came to Columbus. Yeah. Yeah. And it it's it's a one of the things that the um is kind of in the intro is that they were really they they they said this was all this awakening came because there was sort of this common desire for unity beyond their denomination, beyond their community. They wanted this unity, but also it was it was towards a common impulse. They called it a common impulse, this desire to do something more together that they couldn't do alone. And so yeah, that that historical book kind of gave me some like, okay, this has happened in Columbus. This is not like I'm inventing this or you're you know, we are inventing anything. Yeah, uh, we're just kind of coming along with what's already been done and maybe putting it into some modern language and um and moving it forward.

SPEAKER_01

So, how did you sense God's calling um when he united the church for that city? How did you how what what was that like? I mean, everybody has some different experience when God calls them to do thing. I I called them to do something. What was yours like?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, mine was very choppy, um, not clean. It didn't, it wasn't like I heard this from the Lord. It was just started, I started to see it sort of seep out of me like sap out of a tree. It was like I started we we started uh anti-human trafficking ministry as our church called She has a Name, and the desire of that uh was like how do we work with other nonprofits that are doing anti-human trafficking, bring in a collaborative community, and we brought more awareness and we worked with those who were actually doing some frontline ministries like the Salvation Army or Rahab's Hideaway, these kinds of different things. And so that kind of was when I started to see, you know, I I really like this idea of collaborating and like working with others, and I see that that's actually in need. And then I started to see it in other places with the CDC we started in in um the Short North, Milo Grogan. And so we started to wonder if like how do we do this on a big scale? Right. And that's where for me it started. I started to kind of observe the tree and and see that this collaboration theme was all over the place. And some of it's just because I love people, and I am super curious um about different different denominational diff uh denominations and different expressions of how church looks. And I I am fascinated with like, okay, what's you know, this black church, there's this white church, there's this charismatic church, this is reformed church. Like, I love kind of little bits here and there of all of it, and I'm like, how does it all kind of work together? Yeah, how does it all come together? I'm curious.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, get how how is the unity done? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the harmony that sets in, yeah. Yeah. Um with the different denominations and so forth. And typically with as as being pastors, we understand a lot of times we focus on ours, you know, that silo, and uh it's hard to um trust. You know, it's hard to trust. I would assume that would be some of the challenges that you are encountering uh as um at least at the early stage and maybe still today. 100%. Is that some of the challenges?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, you know, I know you see this all the time in your world, but like we all we all kind of are just have a lot of distrust and there's pain and there's historical precedence that causes division. I mean, division is it's it's a huge problem that everybody knows is there in a million different ways. The problem is is um the world is trying is recognizing this problem and they're trying to go after it with slogans and you know, we're all in this together, and sort of that kind of language.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But the the gospel actually like is meant to provide sort of the foundation and baseline and new vision for how we live in unity. And so if the church can't live in unity and can't find oneness and can't at least be moving towards it, then we've discredited the gospel. We've made the grow the power of the gospel weak because we said, you know what, we can't have unity when that's the very heartbeat of the gospel. And again, I I say that with a lot of humility and knowing that it's m it's complicated, and I know there's relational tensions, there's history, there's all kinds of things. And I don't think I actually don't think that God wants uh has a vision for us to solve it, but I do believe that he wants us to step in the pathway of a journey towards it. Yes. And so I agree. That that's like for me is like just trying to cultivate that journey and make the gospel powerful and palatable to a society who's longing for unity and they're longing for harmony, but they can't find it in anything else. And they should be able to find it in the gospel that we hold.

SPEAKER_01

Amen. I agree 100%. You often say for Columbus isn't just an organization, but a movement. What does that mean to you?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I love that question because I I get I get excited about uh we as a city kind of saying we are for Columbus instead of uh Nick is for Columbus, you know, like he's or seeing the our staff team being the ones who are doing the work of Unity and like kind of outsourcing it to them, but it's actually this embodiment of how do we do this together. Absolutely. And for Columbus is just an an infrastructure like a trellis, and and so I think meaning like the staff team and the 501c3 and the the bank accounts, those are just trellis work so that uh the for Columbus movement can actually work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's great. Um how are you seeing it played out across the neighborhoods and the networks and leaders?

SPEAKER_03

I I think a couple things come to mind. One one is the uh younger leaders, Generation Z, Generation E even Generation Alpha, uh huh, they do not have the same hangups that boomers, Gen Xers have when it comes to collaboration.

SPEAKER_00

Very true.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. And so where I see that expressed so well is at Ohio State. I mean, you see all of the things that are working at Ohio State and God, what Ways God is doing with the football team, with college students. Yes. Um, a lot of that is because there's a group of people who are kind of moving past, and I don't think moving past in a bad way, but moving past some of the historical hang-ups and traditions. Yeah. Yep. And they're actually going after some work together. And and so, you know, for us, we've tried to come alongside that in at Ohio State and say, all right, how do we help bring some collaborative networking between different campus ministries, different churches that have a presence on campus, pull them together? And so we were able to like help with the Ohio State fall outreach, kickoff outreach with the Ohio State football team. Um, and and we've been able to just like kind of help bring introductions and relational capital and even some like funding and resourcing to make that uh go and grow. It's because of the younger people, again, they're they're they're just doing it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they yeah, with or without us. Yeah, they're just going at it. They're going at it.

SPEAKER_03

And I so I think that's a tangible example of a neighborhood. Um, if you call it a neighbor, I mean it is a Columbus's biggest neighborhood in some ways. Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_03

Um, they're they're taken off in that way. But you see the same thing happening in different neighborhoods like the hilltop and of course the east side. I mean, with what Turn is doing. It's like that that is just the model for for what we are praying for and wanting to see all over the city.

SPEAKER_01

And you know, quiet as a kept, um, and and and feel free to humbly um share um the fact that it's for Columbus kind of paved the way, um, especially what is happening on the campus, yeah, the OSU campus. Uh I just watched the um the series, the redemptive series of them, and it was awesome. And then to have met a couple of the guys, uh, Master Teague in particular, uh, he and I have met and so uh to see them on there, just to see the campus, see what they have done. I believe well you you were there, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were there. So describe in your own words what really what your eyes witnessed and what your ears heard, and you know, what your eyes saw.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I mean, honestly, it was like God put things together.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Because, and and I think everybody's kind of said this because it it seemed like nobody really knew what was happening.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And but yet at the same time, it was happening. It was happening. And you know, people are like, how did that stage get there for this outreach? Or these, you know, that generator to run the music. And I think that was kind of what what we brought to the table is we we kind of tried to set all that stuff up and put all that together. Nobody really knows Fort Columbus was doing a lot of that to serve, again, as trellis, so that the football players and what God is doing on that football team and and kind of the the the um spiritual leadership that Master T brought, or or um G Scott, those guys really brought some just incredible, incredible depth in in how um players are thinking about their identity in Christ.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then that that's happening, and then at the same time, all these college ministries are working together. You see um new ministries like Run with Christ come out of that, or um, you know, different collaboratives like the Way um going on on campus. And so, you know, somehow God mixed all that together. And yeah, and and everybody's still going, I don't know how who's who did that, or how did that show up there? Right, right. But God seemed to make it all work together, and and I think that documentary does a good job of of sort of kind of acknowledging the mystery of God of like how did he do all of this? Yeah, but also like uh praising the Lord that he is doing something unique in Columbus, Ohio that is um just mind blowing.

SPEAKER_01

You know, um we all know that Ohio is the heart of it all. So you know, and as Ohio goes, so does the nation. So it's important that we make an impact in our city uh of Columbus as well as and Columbus being the capital, so it's like let's start here, you know. That's our motto um turn, the ultimate resource network is starting in our own backyard. So it's kind of like starting home first, you know?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you guys have like taken ownership in a way that we're constantly praying. What the Lindsay family has done to like really own the East Side. We're like, Lord, would you do that, you know, for even a New Albany for Hilltop for Clintonville, for Germanville? You know, we want to see these kind of business leaders partnered with nonprofit. I mean, you guys have just set the model and the tone for what that looks like and could look like. And I'm praying more and more people see that vision. Amen.

SPEAKER_01

Amen. I appreciate that. Because we we love the partnership that we have with you all for Columbus. It's been marvelous and just exciting, man. Uh it's great to um see what God is doing. So you're known for being a connector in Catalyst. What have you learned about the kind of leadership it takes to build trust and collaboration across denomination, races, and sectors?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I I'm really interested in your answer because I'm known to be a connector to.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, you are. I feel like I should turn this on you. I I think for me, it's just a lot of it's an it's an insatiable desire to learn. And I just am so hungry and curious of people, and um I look I'm a huge reader, so like for me, what books, what books have influenced you? What yeah, you know, or or um just these kinds of things. And so like I love reading and I love reading outside of my own tribe and my own denominational background, and and for me, um I I think honestly, maturity is being able to like read across a lot without compromising. You know, you can read and yeah, you can learn from other traditions and say, you know, I I I don't know if I agree with that, but I really there's something valuable in that. That that's a sense of maturity that I think the church is struggling with because it's like you, you know, you can't read that because you will be influenced or these kinds of things. And I think we would do better to learn um, you know, the white church like being able to learn from uh black theologians and understanding their experiences or uh reformed uh people being able to learn from charismatic, you know. For me, it's like I want to understand like how why do you pray this way? Why what is what is with these flags? Right, right, right. What's the history and all of that? And and just sort of mix it all together. I mean so curiosity, but I also think um I also think it just it requires like a a posture of not being the the center of everything. Yeah, you know, the connection is the point, not the connector. Yeah, I agree. And you know, it's like I don't need to be the one to get some kind of glory or acknowledgement, you know, that these these two are working together. Yeah. Um and we've tried even even as a staff team, that's been a big posture for us is like, how do we really not um you know how you stay in the background? Yeah, we're not branding ourselves as if if we've got some kind of like thing. We're just like trying to actually promote what other people are doing and tell their story. I mean, I I use this example a lot, like on in the hilltop, that pastoral network that really um kicked off the West Side Christian School and they're doing stuff. Like we we like I the only reason I got to be a part of that was because Veritas had a a congregation over there and Ben Douglas, who's the the real ringleader and all that. Yeah, he and I went to college together and we're like best friends.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So like I got to be a part of that story just because of all of that connection. All right. But it's them, they're the ones doing it. And I don't want to take credit or glory or anything like that. It's like they're they're crushing it in the hilltop, and that's that's a needed community. Absolutely. So I think just being able to stay in the background and um just promote others as much as absolute possible. That's another big posture.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I I like that posture as well. Um, it's why I even do the podcast.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_01

I I my objective is to help bring awareness. I used to use the word exposure, but good exposure. Yeah, yeah. But awareness of people who are doing positive things in the community that others don't even know about, or they may know uh their action, but don't know the person behind the action. So uh that was part of the reason of starting the podcast. Um thank you, Lord. It's been five years. People don't even know, but it's been five years, and I'm excited for what he is doing and how he is moving us in the direction that he's moving us.

SPEAKER_03

So well, that that's why I I love our friendship and partnership because it does it, it feels like okay, there's people who are just like cut from the same cloth. Yeah, yeah, we're really working it out in the same ways, and uh it's fun.

SPEAKER_01

You have to speak different languages the language of pastor, the language of nonprofit leader, and the business executive. How do you translate the heart of for Columbus in each of those spaces without losing excess um of the gospel vision?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I love that because the that is a huge challenge. You know, the business people want to talk about impact, yeah, getting things done, the the pastors want to talk about how does it feel, and you know, or and I'm stereotyping. Um I I think my desire and hope again is that we can all sing from the same song sheet that is our theological framework, what's in the Bible, what is Jesus calling us to and saying, and so like me bringing that as like the foundation, and it's like, okay, we're always gonna go to really understanding what is the kingdom of God, what is Jesus talking about when he's talking about the kingdom, or what does John 17 actually look like? Yeah, or what does Jeremiah 29 actually mean? Or um, and just really being able to bring that out. But I also think um there's something that has to be unique too about the the experiences, again, from my perspective, I kind of see like there's several angles of flourishing we have to be thinking about. One of them is spiritual flourishing, and I think pastors are like the most, they they're the people who are gonna bring the most leadership into the spiritual flourishing of our city. Right. Um, and I think maybe the hands and feet people are gonna be the nonprofit people, they're gonna be the people who are really addressing the great compassion, um, maybe the great commission, you know, of like how do we love and serve our neighbors, how do we uh share the gospel? And I think our our marketplace business people are thinking about the economics of flourishing and what does that look like in different neighborhoods, and how do we how do we um not just be faithful Christians at our work, but actually use our gifts, talent, skills to love and serve the neighborhoods and investments.

SPEAKER_01

The neighborhood and the community, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And I think for me, it's like what those have to be mashed up and we have to start singing from the same song sheet. And that the whole the whole point for Columbus exists is because they're not, they're they're doing their own things and they're in their own worlds, and we're missing out on incredible opportunity.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, I agree 100%. As you look ahead, what do you hope the Church of Columbus will look like in the next 10 years? I I I asked Mr. Lindsay this question, similar similar question to him. And my question to him was this um the turn has been existing for five years, what do the next five years look like? So this is similar to your question. What do you what do you think how you see the future in the next 10 years of Fort Compass?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, uh that's so great.

SPEAKER_01

Because you guys are growing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean, right now there's there's yeah, there's hundreds of churches ministries and leaders um and with all of leadership, it's the thousands, you know, of people involved in it. But you know, my my hope is that in ten years we will start to see that the conversation around the Capital C church, sort of the kingdom ecosystem, yeah, has become a regular part of everyday vocabulary for Christians so that they're thinking again, not just in terms of my congregation. Um they are thinking that and they're involved in that and they're serving that, but they're they're actually increasing in that. Right, right. But they're thinking in this other category of like, okay, God is doing some work over in this community and that um that particular cause, and I'm seeing how they all work together. Um, so I'm just like wanting to see an increase of activity that that's going on in relationship to all the the different communities, but also like real tangible engagement, more you know, all of that's resulting in more volunteers, more neighborhoods being served. Yeah. It's like what the little tiny ecosystem that happens at Ohio State football team, you know, starts happening in businesses all around the city and um leadership teams in a church, and you know, just these this revival, renewal kind of work going on everywhere. Yeah. Just all moving in the same direction.

SPEAKER_01

You mentioned volunteers. So uh how can pastors, business leaders, and everyday believers just become part of this vision?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the first thing is we're just asking people to join in the prayer movement. That's like that's that's that's the basic call and easiest ask. It's just like just getting engaged in prayer. So we have a prayer guide that we do every month, and that's that's tied to a congregational kit, that's what we call it, which is essentially a slide that you can put up on a Sunday to pray for the city, um, pray for the the churches and nonprofits around you or uh in your congregation, yeah. Um, just to kind of guide in that. So pray just praying. I think attending one of our gatherings. So next year we're getting ready to kick off a host of pastoral gatherings that's specific for pastors. We already have that for nonprofits with mission increase. Um, and and we want to do the same thing for those in the workplace. And so attending one of those is a great way to just start meeting people and hearing what's going on. And then, of course, like how we really want to call people to generosity. And it doesn't need to be necessarily to for Columbus, but just like how do we start fueling this kingdom infrastructure? Can it be like generosity? Yeah, investing in turn, investing in um, you know, mission increase, some of these, these organizations that are thinking strategically beyond just their congregation or their nonprofit, but more holistically.

SPEAKER_01

That's good. That's good. Um would you like to put out the information on how people can get a hold of you or contact the office or at the handles?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so our website is forcolumbus.org. Um, also I have nicknai.net. Um, and you know, everything, all my stuff is just at Nicknai, pretty much. Okay. Um, but yeah, for Columbus has got all the social media. I would encourage people to check out our YouTube page. There's so many videos and stories. Um, I mean, very similar to what you're doing with the podcast. It's just like how what God's doing all over the city. Um, but a lot can also be found at forcolumbus.org. Yeah, great.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Nick, is there anything else that you would like to share with the watching listing audience? As you were driving over, you say um perhaps there was something you definitely, you know, hey, I want to make sure I say at least this. I may say some other things, but this in particular, I really want the people to know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I mean maybe it's underlining what was already said, but I just I think I really want people to know that Jesus gives us this so that clause in John chapter 17. You know, he gives us this henna clause is what it's called, the so that. And I I just like always want to point that's the most boring thing to point people to, you know, but it's it's good. It's if you see what's before it and you see what's after it, yeah, and you're gonna like really being able to see, like, okay, if we live as one with love and care for one another, so that the world will know. And and I think that's just such a strategic vision and a beautiful vision. And I just constantly want to point people to that. Amen. That's good.

SPEAKER_01

Well, Nick, I thank you for your time, man. I know you're a busy, busy, busy guy, but I really appreciate you taking time to come to the studio today and share um your heart and share more about Ford Columbus and just the collaboration with Turn as well. And um, looking forward to continue uh connecting. And I know our circle intertwains and intertwine and looking forward to just the future of what we are doing together as God continue to use our movements and um us individually as well. So uh I'm really excited about your future. So thank you for coming today.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, thank you, Pastor Charlie. Thankful for you and for Turn, all the all the partnership.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you, appreciate it. So uh I want to say to the guests, to the watching and listening audience, um, this has been Turn Up with Pastor Charlie, and we want to thank the River Radio Podcast Studio for the space that we do occupy for um broadcasting to the worldwide, to our visionary Burton Stephanie Lindsay and the Lindsay Foundation, and all our partners, local churches, schools, 501c3s, nonprofit organizations. Thank you for being part of us and coming beside us all for the well being of the community. So we say thank you and God bless. Amen.

SPEAKER_03

Amen.