Learn Japanese with Genki: Making a Date, Shinkansen & “Thing Japan” | Nihongo To English Ep. 21

In Episode 21 of Nihongo To English, Michelle MaliZaki and Michael Allen talk about Japanese trains, Shinkansen names, “Thing Japan,” The Little Engine That Could, and why Genki’s “making a date” chapter may be more dramatic than expected.

This episode includes:

• Japanese words like nozomi, hikari, kodama, and tetsudou
• a conversation about Shinkansen, hope traveling faster than light, and why Japan makes trains look cool
• beginner Japanese practice from Genki Lesson 3
• useful classroom expressions like wakarimasu ka, yukkuri itte kudasai, and mou ichido itte kudasai
• a very serious investigation into whether Mary and Takeshi are actually going on a date
• a surprise Bechdel Test discussion involving Genki, slippers, and host moms

If you want to learn Japanese while listening to two comedians talk about trains, textbooks, dating, and absolutely unnecessary cultural analysis — this is the episode for you.

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Genkiで日本語：デートの約束、新幹線、「Thing Japan」| Nihongo To English Ep. 21

Japanese Description

『Nihongo To English』第21回では、Michelle MaliZaki と Michael Allen が、新幹線、Nozomi・Hikari・Kodama、「Thing Japan」、そして Genki の「デートの約束」について話します。

今回のエピソードでは：

• のぞみ・ひかり・こだま・鉄道などの日本語
• 新幹線の名前と「希望は光より速い？」という謎の名言
• Genki Lesson 3 の初心者向け日本語練習
• わかりますか、ゆっくり言ってください、もう一度言ってくださいなどの便利な表現
• Mary と Takeshi は本当にデートなのか？という真剣すぎる考察
• ホストマザー、スリッパ、そしてなぜかベクデル・テストまで登場する会話

日本語を勉強したい人、英語と日本語の間を行ったり来たりしたい人、そして「何の話？」と思いながらなぜか最後まで聞いてしまう人にぴったりのエピソードです。

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hitashi booty! Oh Genki. Genky Ness.

SPEAKER_03 0:03

Yeah no ko no na bonsai.

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Banzai. Hi.

SPEAKER_03 0:08

Banzai de Ban ten thousand. Sai ears. I can't say ear. Ears.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

Yeah, no, you say pretty well, I think.

SPEAKER_03 0:15

Yeah, I did because I'm like ears. Because usually I sound ears. Ah, she meant mimi janak tea.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

Toshi. Ears.

SPEAKER_03 0:36

Yeah, ears.

SPEAKER_00 0:37

I don't hear the why though when you do it. Maybe you're maybe you're right. Maybe there's something to that fluent in hearing Japanese people speak in English. But to me, I don't hear the why sound when you say ears. You've probably had a lot of practice.

SPEAKER_03 0:52

I I practice just now. Ear, ear, ear, ear, ear, ear. Well, now I don't know which one you're trying to say.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

So maybe it is a context thing. Jozu Nideki do.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

Ayearishi.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

Welcome to another episode of Nihongo 2 English.

SPEAKER_03 1:16

No show.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

No podcast. Nozomi.

SPEAKER_03 1:19

Nozomi? Nozomi? Hope?

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Yeah, I don't I don't know. I was just thinking of words that begin with no. We have no podcast, no show. Nodi. Nodi nozomi.

SPEAKER_03 1:30

Nozomi no.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

Nomu no mono.

SPEAKER_03 1:33

No no. No, no, no, no. No. No. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:39

Yes. Yes. So yeah, I don't know why I thought of nozomi, but I did. Oh yeah, there is a shin. Is it the nozomi line?

SPEAKER_03 1:50

Nozomi? Yeah, and then hikari. I think. Nozomi is faster than hikari. And then oh there's a kodama. Kodama is an echo.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Uh-huh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:59

And then hikari is the light.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 2:02

And nozomi is the hope.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

So in physics, nothing travels faster than light. But apparently in Japan, hope travels faster than light. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And echo. So maybe if we want to visit neighboring galaxies, we just have to hope. We need a well that is very like a manga kind of thing, like an engine that's powered on hope.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

It runs on hopes and dreams.

SPEAKER_03 2:27

Aww. America don't eon de tell engine that could.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

Oh, the little engine that could? Yeah. Oh my gosh, you're bringing me back. That's like not scushing. Sansaika. Kodamo no hondes, the little engine that could. So it's like a that could. So it's like. Is that how it goes in the Japanese version?

SPEAKER_03 3:02

I've never seen the Japanese version. Oh, maybe we could translate it for them. That would be fun. We'll be the best-selling translator.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

I bet it has been translated. Oh, I haven't either. But I'm just I'm betting. I bet it's been translated.

SPEAKER_03 3:18

Because I've seen Little House. Do you know Little House?

SPEAKER_00 3:22

I think I've seen the Little House.

SPEAKER_03 3:24

Yeah, Little House was like built in like out of nowhere, and then it was all built up many years later.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

So they uh Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen pictures of it. There's like pretty famous illustrations. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the house gets like a little bigger and a little nicer, and then there's like a few houses around, and then it becomes like the only house in the city. And then Yeah, well, it reminds me of these stories um in the US, but in China also, and maybe in Japan too, where there's this giant real estate development and the government wants to buy someone's family house. Oh yeah. And then they refuse to move, and then there's like all this suburbia around like this one house that just refuses to sell.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

Or the street ends right there.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

Yeah, yeah. So so that one, is that originally a Japanese story?

SPEAKER_03 4:05

No, that's an American story. Oh, and it's famous in Japan.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 4:13

We could make it famous in Japan.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

So how would you translate? Well, yeah, that's a that's a I mean de kiru, you know, to to be able to do, right? Well, the the famous line is I think I can. Yeah. Yeah, but the kiruzol de kiruzo sounds more in the spirit of the thing. This is where it's like direct translation. The d very direct translation would be the kiruto mode. Which is not bad, but I feel like the kiduzol.

SPEAKER_03 4:45

That sounds more like engine.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

Because in English we have like, I think I can, I think I can. But I don't know, maybe it loses something because the kiruzel is like, I can. Yeah. I can, I can, I can. Whereas I think I can kind of has a more like this sort of like it's like belief. It's like belief in yourself. It's like if you think that you can, then you can. But that sounds more like can I think well.

SPEAKER_02 5:13

Ah, the kita.

SPEAKER_00 5:14

Like, can I do it? Yeah. That would be that would be an interesting one. I read a critique of the little engine that could some years ago. Yeah. It was like an anti-capitalist critique of the little engine that could, like, oh, he's just like working really hard to deliver the coal to the whatever. Or like what is well, like I I forget what the story is. He's maybe he's like trying to move a shipment or move some people, move some people around or something. It's like but like what is the little engine that could really want? You know, is this what the little engine that could want, or is this just uh No, I think the little engine wanted to help. Oh, wanted to help?

SPEAKER_03 5:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

And then he wasn't able to help before because a bigger, better engine was doing everything. And then one time Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

You know you remember this story better than I do.

SPEAKER_03 6:04

Oh, because I read it fifteen years ago.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Oh, you're reading it to your kids or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So you tell me the story then.

SPEAKER_03 6:11

I I don't know, but I don't remember for sure. Anyways. Oh, so he was going over the hill.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 6:16

So the kidukana, they do cana, dikirukana, dikukana.

SPEAKER_00 6:19

Mm-hmm. But why was he going over the hill?

SPEAKER_03 6:22

With people? I think he had to carry people to the other side of the mountain. I don't know. Uh-huh. Yeah, what can I almost I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

I think um the little engine that could should have just stayed at the bottom and said, hey, if you want to get to the other side of the hill, then you just you just walk. You know, you just why might make me do all the work, you know? Get out Uber.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

But the little engine that could is blue, and then Thomas the tank engine is blue, but Thomas' tank engine is is British. And that one I definitely know has I think in like in the first or second episode I heard.

SPEAKER_02 6:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

So there was an old train that was in a tunnel and it couldn't come out for some reason because like something about his engine was broken, or it just was having trouble doing the work. Uh-huh. And so it was like, Well, you you should do the work. And it's like, I can't. I don't want it. And then instead of like helping him or cheering him up or pulling him out, they just like brought over a construction team to build a brick wall and just like sealed him in the tunnel forever. Like a sentient train with brains that has feelings and thoughts. They're just like, Well, if you're not gonna do the work, then we'll just entomb you in this tunnel forever. And it's like, ah, yes, a an a lovely lesson for children. As soon as you stop becoming productive, then you will be sealed in an early grave inside of a mountain. So, you know, I I'm suspicious of all these train stories, but these are these are like steam trains, these aren't like uh the modern, what is it, Oshare?

SPEAKER_03 7:50

Oshare.

SPEAKER_00 7:51

Oshare's like cool, right?

SPEAKER_03 7:52

Yeah. I know.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Right.

SPEAKER_03 8:04

American Hanashi Tapung. Is it in American story or English story?

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Shinkansen manga gana? No. But there's manga for literally everything. Yeah, yeah. Literally everything. Yeah, what's with that? So Shinkansen are Oshade, right?

SPEAKER_03 8:29

Oshade kan shit.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

Is Oshade like fashionable or is it like Oshare chanito?

SPEAKER_03 8:35

See Shinkansen Ano Mukashiwa, Shinkansen no nakade, oyatsu did wo one san gaite no shinkan sen no nakade ano like an attendant attendant.

SPEAKER_00 8:49

So like a flight attendant, but like a train attendant. Yeah, they're like uh like you would see at a baseball game or something. Like a vendor.

SPEAKER_03 9:03

So so them kide na ones.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

Of course. Of course.

SPEAKER_03 9:09

So the ice ski mutua kohi toka ato nanka mumiji manju toka. Kate tabete o shikata.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

Oh, I see. Osade. Stylish, fashionable, trendy, chic, smart. Well, I mean, to an American they are. To me, it's like, ah, a fashionable and trendy new shinkansen, unlike the because we don't have any high speed rail here in the US at all.

SPEAKER_04 9:34

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

So it's very futsu in Japan. But to me, I'm like, oh, it's like a cool new train that I wish we had here. Yeah. Well, Futsu in Oh, have you heard of there okay, so there's a new thing. Uh a new meme. Uh there's a new meme on the internet. It's called Thing Japan.

SPEAKER_03 9:53

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

Yeah. Thing Japan is like if you could be talking about everything anything you want. Right? You could be talking about trains, for example.

SPEAKER_03 10:04

Right.

SPEAKER_00 10:05

You could just and then someone chimes into the conversation. It's like, actually, in Japan, they have trains that can go fast. Super, super fast and are really efficient and can take you around. It's like, oh, okay. Or let's say you're talking about um jeans or denim.

SPEAKER_03 10:21

Then you move.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

And it's like, oh, actually in Japan they have this really specially crafted denim that's like really high quality and like da da da, right? So uh it's like so then it becomes kind of a joke where we could be talking about oh, what are your hopes and dreams? Oh, I want to uh, you know, be a doctor when I grow up. Oh I well in Japan actually they uh can run their cars off of hopes and dreams. So it's sort of like the tendency for any subject of conversation for someone else to come up and be like, oh, actually in Japan they have a version that's more modern and better over there. Everything's better. It's sort of like everything's better in Japan, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 10:57

Well, everything's better than America.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

Well, sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:00

Oh, it used to be opposite, eh? America no hoga nandemo.

SPEAKER_00 11:04

Yeah. What have we done?

SPEAKER_03 11:06

What happened? Watashika kitakala, is that because I came here? Yeah. It's not cool anymore.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

Yeah, Marizaki San No Sede. Yeah, you were the best thing that was in Japan, and you left.

SPEAKER_03 11:17

So the show saigo nadeshko.

SPEAKER_00 11:20

Oh no, I'm sorry, you were the worst thing in Japan when you left. I'm ruining America, the kiduzo, the kiduzo, the kidzo, the kiduzo.

SPEAKER_03 11:29

I'm ruining America.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Yeah, one podcast at a time.

SPEAKER_03 11:33

Yay!

SPEAKER_00 11:33

Yes, I'm your host, Michael Allen, CPA.

SPEAKER_03 11:36

And I'm the co-host, Michelle Marizaki.

SPEAKER_00 11:39

Yeah. And this is Nihongo To English No Show again. Yeah. We are almost at 1,000 downloads. We're at uh Q Hyaku Q. I bet we're at a thousand even right now. I bet four people started for listen.

SPEAKER_03 11:55

Or should I just get different devices and start it? No.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

No, dame this.

SPEAKER_03 12:02

Because there's um Apple Podcast, Spotify and Buzz Sprout. Sure. So that's three, three if I if I download it in three different apps.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

Yeah, BuzzFeed, Sprout Feed, Sprout Watch, Buzz Listen, whatever. They always have a new one.

SPEAKER_03 12:25

Yeah, and shanohanashi ni modo get all right.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

Railroads. So they're steam or chico chico. Oh, tetsua iron? So so tetsu.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

I like Japan because you don't have to have a car.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

Yeah, well that's also a la well, that's an America thing. Toku ni dos sans. So this.

SPEAKER_03 13:24

So mato kasuringa ureukala.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

Hi.

SPEAKER_03 13:27

Capitalism.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

Hi. So de Who Framed Roger Abbott Mita Koto.

SPEAKER_03 13:33

Hi.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

Roger Rabbit no Hanashi wa dareka wa toontown no ona ka nakanachata ka korosh kurosaretamo.

SPEAKER_00 13:41

Kurosareta wa choto voite naika uhontown o kai tai toontown o nakushite friwe o tsuritae.

SPEAKER_03 13:56

Ah so datun.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

And uh yeah, it's not really a densah. I mean we had densa, but it was like a um there's some other word for it. It's uh it's like a street, it's like a street.

SPEAKER_03 14:09

So stoditoka tenante yun dake.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

Yeah. We see we don't even remember what they're called in English, much less in the Tokyo ni marimas.

SPEAKER_03 14:17

I'll so this can.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Anything but cars, please. All right, well let's look at some ginky.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

What about useful expression? Chapter two.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

Oh, useful ex Oh my gosh, we get to do something useful. Bend bendy. Yeah, well we're still one of these days we'll leave the classroom.

SPEAKER_03 14:39

Yeah. Page 81.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

All right. Read to me the English and I'll see if I remember.

SPEAKER_03 14:45

English, yeah. Hi, Blackbodo. Blackboard.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

Um Kokuban. Kokoban. Okay. Koku black.

SPEAKER_03 14:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

Bun is like a board. Flat surface thing. So kokoban. Okay. I've got a kokoban right there. I know kokoban wa uh goat versus fish. No kokoban this.

SPEAKER_03 15:08

Hi.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

Kokoban ni nana hiki no sakana to go to no yagi kika kika.

SPEAKER_03 15:22

Hi kairimos.

SPEAKER_01 15:23

Okay, kokoban.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

Kokoban.

SPEAKER_01 15:25

Alright.

SPEAKER_03 15:27

Desk.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

Cool.

SPEAKER_03 15:32

Eraser.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

Mmm. Keshi? Gomu.

SPEAKER_03 15:39

Well, keshi gomu wa gomu deshigomu des eraser.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

Oh, is that I thought you meant like a kokoban though keshi.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

Ah, there's a little eraser behind a computer.

SPEAKER_00 15:49

Oh, okay. So that okay, if you said uh well, there's the ambiguity.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Hi. Alright. But that's a keshigomu. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

N pizza. That's a false cognate, I think.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

Is it?

SPEAKER_00 16:11

Because n pizza is hiragana this y'all? N pizza.

SPEAKER_03 16:14

Yeah, n pizza wa kanji demokemos.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

They don't have any shared history of the word, but they sound kind of the same the same anyway.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

And uh lead? Pizza fude? Oh so there's got a red brush? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

Okay, that makes no sense, but it sounds great. Probably some historical thing.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

Oh, but there's lead in uh pizza.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:42

And then uh brush to write uh you know, cut an or should you know brush food? So m pizza.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

The red brush, all right.

SPEAKER_03 16:53

Dictionary.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

So door. Oh excuse me.

SPEAKER_03 17:05

Door.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

Yeah. Like like yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

Light.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

I was gonna be like lightle, but yeah, it could be lightal. Uh like like a ceiling light? I forgot.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

Denky.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Oh denky, of course. Well denky is just the word for is that isn't the word for power?

SPEAKER_03 17:24

It's only denky.

SPEAKER_00 17:25

Makes sense. The word for power and the or electricity and the word for light is just the same. Cool.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

Curtain.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

Cotton.

SPEAKER_03 17:34

Ah, beep boop beep boob beepong window.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Model.

SPEAKER_03 17:40

Yay! Ah, and one more. Book.

SPEAKER_00 17:43

Hong.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Yay, you got it.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Alright.

SPEAKER_03 17:47

Oh, do you know how to say do you understand in Japanese?

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Well, there's probably a few ways to say it, but wakarimasu is probably what you would say. But if you want to be more formal, you can say gozonji desk.

SPEAKER_03 18:06

How do you say that in Japanese?

SPEAKER_00 18:09

Wakarimas. Or you can be like wakata. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:14

And I don't understand.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

Wakarana.

SPEAKER_03 18:19

Hi, Wakarimasen.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

And then please say it slowly. Yukuri kite. Look at that side.

SPEAKER_03 18:25

Hi, people.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

So there's no whenever when would you use I for that Yukuri went with a knee. Does it not have Yukuri ni? Go Yukuri knee.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

I don't know. Yukuri dozo. Yukuri ni dozo. I don't know. Yukuri Yukuri dozo.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

No, Yukuri ikekudasai. It's a homophone. Ig de kudasai. It could be say, please say it slowly.

SPEAKER_00 18:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:48

Or please go slowly, eat de kudasai.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

That's true. Yeah. But knee is sometimes used to make some adjectives are knee adjectives, right?

SPEAKER_03 19:00

Like slowly li. A part of the colour. Yeah, knee can make things into L Y, right?

SPEAKER_00 19:04

So that's why I'm probably thinking that.

SPEAKER_03 19:06

No, not this time.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

Okay. You could eat kudasai. So you could eat kudasai. You could eat soate kudasai.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

Yukuri.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

You goodie hanash te kudasai, you goodie ha or Migaite kudasai.

SPEAKER_03 19:21

Migaite kudasai. Hi.

SPEAKER_00 19:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:23

Yukuri unten sh tekodasai. Hi. Hi. Okay. Please say it again.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

Yukuri tekodasai.

SPEAKER_03 19:35

Please say it again.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

Moichido itekudasai. Hi.

SPEAKER_03 19:44

Toto wasureta. Please say it again.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Moichido it again. Eh.

SPEAKER_03 19:55

Please say it again.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

Mochido itekodasai.

SPEAKER_03 20:00

Eh machatita. Hiruneno chikan janai.

SPEAKER_01 20:05

You could kudasai.

SPEAKER_03 20:06

And you could. Please listen.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

I guess it's kite kudasai.

SPEAKER_03 20:20

But it could be also please ask. Kitekudasai.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

Yeah, that's a funny one in Japanese. That's one. Don't worry about it. If you're a Japanese, if you're a student of Japanese and you're like, how am I gonna tell the difference between listen and ask? Uh-huh. Just the context. We'll figure it out. Kite. Kite kite. I keep wanting that yoku at the beginning, but that's more like closely, or like chanto yoku. Yoku kite kudasai. It's like please listen carefully.

SPEAKER_03 20:45

All right. Please look up page ten.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

Jupej o mitekudasai.

SPEAKER_03 20:53

Yay!

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Yeah, but you could but you don't always need the old, right? You can just be like jupeiji mitekudasai.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

You could say jupeji mitekidasai or jupeji o mitekudasai.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:01

I think jupeji or mitekudasai sounds more complete.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Ah, Taiyan. We are going to lesson three.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 21:10

Donoyaksuku.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Oh, we're going on a date?

SPEAKER_03 21:13

Yeah, making a date.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

Oh, sorry. I'm out of practice on that. I don't know if I know how to do any of it. I don't know how to say these things in English, much less Japanese anymore.

SPEAKER_03 21:21

Oh no, dialogue. You could just memorize all these and you could ask people out.

SPEAKER_00 21:27

That would actually be kind of a you know what? What wanna talk about content? Do a thing where uh we go and interview people or like we just do like just the dialogues.

SPEAKER_03 21:39

Uh Miri san shimatswa taite nanyoshimasuka.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Yeah. Exactly. Well you don't have to call him Medisan, but we just try to get a I like I try to get a date but can only use these the sentences from the book. Yeah, no one you didn't realize it, but uh Genki is actually a uh pickup artist book. You know how

SPEAKER_03 22:09

Yeah, that's making a date. What's the making a date?

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Okay, well, okay, so a date in English can be like going on a date, like a romantic date. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

That's what I thought. Date no yaksuku.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

I don't know about that. I think I think if that going on a date or getting a date, but making a date, then date just sounds like um a plan or a thing in your schedule. Yeah, if I say let's go on a date, then it's like it's like a w w date. Yeah. But if you're say like let's make a date or let's set a date, that's not babu. Like, no, you could just tell your friend, like, hey, let's make a date to go see uh yeah, to see the new Mario Brothers movie or something. Like so making a date is sort of like saying making a plan.

SPEAKER_03 22:57

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

So this isn't necessarily.

SPEAKER_03 23:02

Oh, yeah.

unknown 23:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:05

Oh no, go chot chigo yimi go.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

Yeah, ganky, get with it.

SPEAKER_03 23:09

Well, it does say that sounds more promising.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

Yakusoku is like a promise. Yeah. Could you be like yote no yakusuku?

SPEAKER_03 23:24

If it's just making a date. But dito no yaksoku sounds like dito, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:29

Yes, I would say Genki's a little off on that. I know it's not wrong, but yeah, making a date doesn't sound Romantic. Particularly romantic. Uh making a date almost sounds like it's like, okay, I'm like buying the flowers and I'm like setting the table. I'm like making the date. You know? Um Yeah, I would think if if if this is like picking up someone, then it would be like getting a date. Like how to get a date. Ah. Not how to make a date.

SPEAKER_03 24:01

Okay, let's see how it goes. Yeah. You want to be takesuwa meari.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

Um I mean, sure. Let's go normative style and I'll be Takesu. Okay. Alright. Kaiwa.

SPEAKER_03 24:11

Alright. Dialogue. So desne taite, uchideben kyoshimas demo toki doki egao mimas.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

So deska.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

Ja do yobini ega o mimasenka.

SPEAKER_03 24:38

Doyobi wachto.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Ja nichy wa do deska.

SPEAKER_03 24:45

I desne.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

Alright. Well, is it a is it a dato or is it a I mean we don't really know.

SPEAKER_03 24:53

Ega ega sounds romantic.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

But yeah, the so deska, I think the ten ten ten is kind of kind of makes it seem like Takeshi is kind of like he's like assessing, like, oh, is she saying, is she turning me down or is she actually busy? He's like trying to calculate it. Oh, so i is it a date? I don't know. Maybe we'll find out. Is there like a story if we get to like page Nihakud? Are they like getting married and settling down and like having arguments?

SPEAKER_03 25:21

At age 21?

SPEAKER_00 25:23

Well, I mean, I I oh yeah, I guess I d well, I don't know. Maybe maybe by page 200 it's like five years later. We don't know.

SPEAKER_03 25:29

Yeah, old enough, but like I don't know. I don't want to send my daughter to foreign country and meet somebody there and get married without telling me.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Well what if they did tell you? Mama, I remember when I was not the first time, but when I was living in Japan and looking for work. Uh-huh. So I didn't I was on a visitor visa. I didn't yet have but I was saying with my friend's parents, mothers, Japanese, father's uh American. I was going to like the local community center and just posting that I would give like free English conversation to anyone who just wanted to. I figure it wouldn't be a bad way to practice. And also who knows could lead to something. Yeah. Occasionally I would get um, you know, women my age or so, and then they would like want to spend an hour talking to me, and then uh one of them I like asked out and we like went on a date.

SPEAKER_02 26:21

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

And uh my friend's mother was like so um very nervous. She was she was like, Who is this woman? She's gonna try and take advantage of you, and like she's gonna try and do something and she was like being a mommy. Yeah, I guess it was like, oh, she's gonna like Is that what happened? She's like, Oh, you can't like you can't you can't trust this girl. She's gonna like she's gonna try and get something from you. I'm like, I'm just going to like it wasn't even like to see a movie, like we're just like getting a meal or doing something. It was like I can handle myself, like I'll be fine.

SPEAKER_03 26:52

Is that what happened to her and her husband?

SPEAKER_00 26:54

I I mean that's kind of what made me think, right? It's like, is was that your plan with him? Or then now you're projecting onto her? So uh why don't you be Takeshi? I'll be married. This one? Yeah. Okay. I want to practice reading.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

So desne taite uchide venkyoshimas demon toki doki ego ega oh mimas.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

So deska.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

He won't take note for an answer. I she did give him the she did kind of hand like, oh, I like seeing the movies though.

SPEAKER_03 27:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So she she must.

SPEAKER_00 27:48

Alright. Well, I like that. But um shumasu taite marizaki sama nanyoshimasu. Oh, dash diska.

SPEAKER_03 28:01

Boto boto boto shemas. Bo shte.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

So taite sendako shte sarawarau.

SPEAKER_03 28:14

Oh, o sarate. Oh so.

SPEAKER_00 28:21

Hi. Taite uh.

SPEAKER_03 28:24

Pati each.

SPEAKER_00 28:26

Oh bade tai deska? Uh tamani. Tamani. Tamani.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

Okay. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

We'll party.

SPEAKER_03 28:37

Party.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

Alright.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

Uh nan de bankyoshina, all right.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

Should we do one more?

SPEAKER_03 28:42

One more.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

Alright, two.

SPEAKER_03 28:44

Hi.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

So now it's Sunday. I told you, we're the the plot is is moving ahead. Well, this is where we need the bass so you can play the Seinfeld theme.

SPEAKER_03 28:51

Oh, da dun ton.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

Yeah, so we said ja uh nichio bi wa do deska. Boom patum patum boom patum patum.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Ohoyo.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

Oh, that is okay. That's okay-san. That's okay-san then. I thought I was gonna be Takeshi again. I thought we were it was I thought it was gonna be Sunday. I didn't read it. It's Hokasan, not Takeshi. Well, that's that's that's that's Hokasan's. Well, maybe she's um Shiga uh Sute du Kata Des. Yeah, no, that's Hokasan now.

SPEAKER_03 29:32

Oh gatai mas.

SPEAKER_01 29:34

Ohio.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

Bango Hama.

SPEAKER_03 29:51

Tabemasen.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

Tabema sen. So I'm asking you if you ate dinner?

SPEAKER_03 30:01

Yeah, if you're gonna if you're gonna need dinner, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Which is tabemasen and this so deska ja it? Oh, maybe it's asking like, do you want to eat dinner before you go?

SPEAKER_03 30:11

Oh do you want to eat dinner at home? Then she has to prepare dinner for me ali.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

Right, yeah, yeah. I think that's what it is. Because otherwise I'd be I would think that it's I would think it'd be Okasama Bango and Ma oh Tabe Masen, oh bango and no chanto tabitekudasai. Right, yeah, but it doesn't say that.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00 30:31

But they're just but I think they're just I think mom is just kind of like, how about dinner? You need dinner for me? It's like, no, no, I don't think I will.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

It's like, oh.

SPEAKER_03 30:39

But it is a date.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

It's seeming like it's a date now. They didn't talk about dinner, but maybe dinner is happening. Maybe Sam wants d wants to get, she's like, Action.

SPEAKER_03 30:50

She wants some action.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Yeah, but I mean maybe. Well, you know, if Takeshi plays his cards right. Alright, I'll try to be a better El Kassan this time. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:57

Oh Gateimas. Ohio Hayay desneh.

SPEAKER_01 31:14

Bango hung. Tabema sen.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

So this a better oba chami I'm trying over here.

SPEAKER_00 31:29

I'm d yeah, I guess I I did that was kind of how would you how would you sound like? Well, you're a mom.

SPEAKER_03 31:38

I'm a mom.

unknown 31:38

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

Oh toni temas kyoto dega unimas. Bango hanga. Tabimasen.

SPEAKER_03 32:03

So deska.

SPEAKER_00 32:05

It tekimas You know here's the thing about the the dialogues. I mean, obviously all this stuff is good is good practice and all that. But even at the level that I'm at, it's like sometimes I'm focused so much on just doing the reading that I forget what I'm actually talking about.

SPEAKER_03 32:26

It's kind of abrupt, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 32:28

To get to at this level?

SPEAKER_03 32:30

Yeah, no, no, to get from like oh zaimas to like it, but like so s so much happening between the lines.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

Yeah, yeah, there's a lot that's not being said. I mean, that's I mean, I guess it's natural, it's fine. You gotta give let the students be smart. I mean, at least it's more natural than you know, ano kasa wa ikura desktop. Ano kasa wa go hyaku nanaju andes gachi go. Uh yeah uh no kasa wa sen go hyaku en this. Yeah, so well that's well we have but we have the answers right here.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

All right, you read the Japanese and I'll read what they say the translation is and I'll decide if it's a good translation. Sure, sure. Why not? This is fun. So it's this is getting this is getting interesting now. Okay, it's the one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:15

So matu taite nanioshmasu.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

Mary, what do you usually do on the weekend?

SPEAKER_03 33:24

So desne taite uchide benkyoshimas demoto kidoki egaomimas.

SPEAKER_00 33:29

Let's see. I usually study at home, but I sometimes see movies. I see. Then would you like to see a movie on Saturday? Saturday is not a good day. But then it says literally, Saturday is a little bit bracket inconvenient. Yeah. It's all very ambiguous. Basically it just means doyobia choto. In other words, no. Then how about Sunday? That's fine.

SPEAKER_03 34:12

That's fine. Sounds like she's not interested, but she is, right?

SPEAKER_00 34:17

I mean that's fine.

SPEAKER_03 34:19

That's fine. She sounds like uh, I don't know, high maintenance.

SPEAKER_00 34:24

Yeah. I mean E Desne is like, oh, that's good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:29

But uh maybe that's the way I said it. Oh, bad actress on my behalf.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

But I sometimes see movies. That's that's not um let's see. I usually study at home. Yeah, like sometimes I go to the movies. I don't know why we said uh obviously, yeah, you see a movie. Um, but I think the implication here is Yeah, because like sometimes I see movies, especially now you can watch movies at home. Oh yeah. So if you want to say like as an event, like you you go to the theater as opposed to staying at home and watching movies, you'd be like, Oh, I I go to the movies. Well, sometimes I see movies, it's like where at your house, or well, maybe that's another layer of sometimes I watch movies and it's like, oh, you know, Netflix and chill, you know. Yeah, I guess we don't even know if they're going to the movies or if they're just gonna watch movies at home and and eat dinner at home.

SPEAKER_03 35:21

Oh no, but she's leaving the house to Kyoto.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

Right. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

But do they live in Kyoto or is she going from Kyoto from No, she's going to Kyoto. Yeah, from where? Tokyo?

SPEAKER_00 35:33

Yeah, we have no idea. Well, I mean, she's already coming from America. She's talking to her host mom.

SPEAKER_03 35:38

No, where does the host family live?

SPEAKER_00 35:41

We don't know. We have no idea. Just not Kyoto. And well, they could live in like Kyoto no Koga, so I'm going to like Kyoto. Could be that. We don't know. We don't know how far they're traveling. Maybe they're gonna take the uh tetsu from Hokkaido down on the Honshu.

SPEAKER_03 35:59

It's gonna take the whole day. She won't be back by Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

Well that's the plan, you know. Anything to get away from this host mother. She's overbearing. All right, let's go to B.

SPEAKER_03 36:07

Ohio Kazaimas. Good morning, says Mary. Ohio Hayay desne.

SPEAKER_00 36:11

Good morning. You're up early, aren't you?

SPEAKER_03 36:13

Eh, kyova kyoto nikimas. Kyoto de ego tabimas.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

Yes, I am going to Kyoto today. I will see a movie in Kyoto. Good. Around what time will you come back? Around nine.

SPEAKER_03 36:28

Bangkohan wa.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

So it's like, how about dinner? Like it's an offer, they're saying it.

SPEAKER_03 36:32

Tabema sen.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

I will not eat. Ugh, I don't know. I'd be like, no thanks. Is it better? But it does say tabema sen. So yeah, I won't have any. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:44

So this got ja itelashai.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

I see. Well, have a nice day. Goodbye. So now the picture says it all. Look, the O Kasan, she totally knows what's up. Yeah, she's she knows what's going on. Oh yeah, she's brushing her teeth. Well, it is Hayai this, yeah. Well, actually, nanji disco. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the picture here is um It's on Sunday. Kachan is in the uh Otearai and she is hamigaki chew this.

SPEAKER_03 37:18

Hamigaki cho this.

SPEAKER_00 37:20

And she's kind of got one hand over her mouth. She's like, oh. So like I said, she knows what's going on. So um and Maddy is dressed in a a uh knee-length skirt, uh, has a fashionable belt leaf pattern top. And uh she's still wearing her slippers, but of course she hasn't left the house yet, so you wouldn't be expecting her to be wearing her date shoes yet because she has to get to the gang con and then take off the slippers and then put the date shoes on. So don't judge Mary based on her footwear of this picture because she's not wearing the shoes that she's gonna wear on the see if we knew what shoes she was wearing, then we'd really know if it was a date. But we don't know what shoes she's wearing because she's still in the house.

SPEAKER_03 37:56

She's wearing sweep Don't on this colour.

SPEAKER_00 38:02

Well, I mean, if it's like high heels, then it's then maybe it's more of a date.

SPEAKER_03 38:06

No, sneak, well, sneaker could still be a date.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

But you know, it's just you know, I mean anything could be a date. I'm just saying. All I'm saying is this. With the slippers, we have no information. We have no we we can't even guess at what the shoes mean because so Takeshi no yo fuminait. Well that's okay. You know, it's a it's it's about time that we had more uh female-centric stories, you know. We don't need to see what Takeshi is doing.

SPEAKER_03 38:29

Okay, maybe next week we'll find out. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

Yeah, it doesn't pass the Bechtel test, though, because it's a conversation between two women, but it's about a man, though. Ah, wait, no, but they don't mention Takeshi, though.

SPEAKER_03 38:40

No, Takeshino Koto.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

Yeah. So so I don't know. Does it count? Are they talking about you tell us, send an email to Nihongoto English No Show at gmail.com and tell us if on page the very specific question, if on page 83 of Genki uh book one, does Conversation 2 pass the Bechtel test? Are they indeed talking about a man? Although be but the man is merely implied. So is it two women merely having a conversation about their day? You tell us the answer at Nihongo English No Show at gmail.com. Alright, well, I wonder what um Okasan is gonna do today when Mary out of the house. It's like finally that annoying guy gene is out of the air. I can get back to doing my Japanese things, whatever those are.

SPEAKER_03 39:27

Amimono knitting.

SPEAKER_00 39:28

Oh, Amimono's knitting? Cool. All right, well, thank you for joining us on uh today's episode of the Hongoto English No Show. Yeah, I'm gonna assume that by the time this episode is up that we will have had a thousand listeners. But we can't celebrate quite yet because it hasn't happened. Well, why don't we do a check? Check, please. Down rodo at uh ikutsu deskant.

SPEAKER_03 39:55

Ah, kyuhyakuju. Mokai the flesh. Ah, kyu hyakyuju.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

Kyuaku kyu jugo. But I thought it was kyuaku kyuju roku.

SPEAKER_03 40:04

That's what I thought. Ah.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

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SPEAKER_02 40:23

Bye bye.