Japanese Proverbs & Ron's Missile Manuals ft. Chris Crooks | EP 34

Learn Japanese with Michael Allen CPA and Michelle MaliZaki on Nihongo to English! Fan-favorite guest Chris Crooks is back for round two, and things get delightfully weird. The gang unpacks the proverb ただより高いものはない ("nothing costs more than free") after Michael scores a wobbly free chair off the Buy Nothing app, drills Japanese verb conjugations and the word 新人 (shinjin, "newcomer") using a stack of eyebrow-raising study books, and cracks open the late Ron's inherited collection of technical Japanese translation manuals — missile diagrams, economics textbooks, and the legendary Kōjien dictionary included. Michael and Chris also bond over Final Fantasy VI piano covers, swap guitar-shop stories from Norm's Rare Guitars, and dive into the Compact Oxford English Dictionary's 500-year history of the word "tennis." New episodes every 2nd, 12th & 22nd.

Michael Allen CPAとMichelle MaliZakiと一緒に日本語を学ぼう！ファン待望のゲスト、Chris Crooksが再登場！今回もゆるくて濃い展開に。Michaelがもらった無料の椅子がきっかけで「ただより高いものはない」ということわざを学び、動詞の活用や「新人」という言葉を、ちょっと変わった参考書を使って復習します。さらに、故Ronが遺した専門的な日本語翻訳書のコレクション――ミサイルの図解本、経済の教科書、そして伝説の『広辞苑』まで――を開封！MichaelとChrisはファイナルファンタジーVIのピアノ演奏で意気投合し、ギターショップ「Norm's Rare Guitars」にまつわるエピソードを披露、コンパクト版オックスフォード英語辞典で「tennis（テニス）」という単語の500年の歴史を掘り下げます。毎月2日・12日・22日配信。

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SPEAKER_02 0:08

Yeah, hey, check out this chair.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Chair is here in the middle, like a throne.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

Yeah. I just got this chair yesterday.

SPEAKER_00 0:16

It's really nice.

SPEAKER_02 0:17

Yeah, on the um buy nothing local app.

SPEAKER_00 0:21

Ah, nice.

SPEAKER_02 0:22

And someone's like, over again.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

It's free. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:24

Yeah, from one of my neighbors.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

But ne tadayori takai mono wanai.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

Tada yori takai mono wanai.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

Hi.

SPEAKER_02 0:31

Oh. What is it? There's no there's no better expensive thing than a cheap thing?

SPEAKER_00 0:36

Yeah. Well free thing.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Oh yeah, okay. Like you oh, it's like you can't get better than free.

SPEAKER_03 0:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Well no, like if you got something that was free, and then you ended up paying more for some, you know, like you got a free chair, and then oh, you know, you sat down and the leg broke, and oh no, I broke my bone, and now it's gonna cost me more.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

Right. Yes. Yeah, there's some I mean it is a little wobbly.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Uh nice too.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Wow, mom who's watching from our live Twitch chat says my grandpa would say, if it's free, take it. How do we say that in Japanese?

SPEAKER_00 1:15

Oh, ji changa.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

Nice. Or if it's free, take three.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Three.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

Nice. But you know, we've been doing these podcasts now, and what what episode are we on?

SPEAKER_00 1:30

34.

SPEAKER_02 1:31

34. Cool. Oh, here comes our guest again.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

Yay!

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Hey it's back for a second round. Back for more. Nikai. You can be away. You'll have to pry me out of here with a stick or something. Anyway. So normally we have um a little uh stand with a uh daruma sound. But actually, you're kind of dressed in daruma colors. A little bit. Uchushatsu.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

Uchushatsu.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Yeah, daruma.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

So musician non desko.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

Hi, musician design. Uh Gita. Uh most uh piano music. And uh uh like electronic drums, drum pads, I I was like, I do this. It's because of my piano training, so I can I can play it like a bunch of keys. It's really awesome. There was like no learning curve there. It was actually incredible. A little bit, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

Uh no, my kid sang wa guitar mimasta jiu nigan no guitar.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

We're testing. We're testing the limits of Chris's comprehension.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Oh, uh hi, mimasta.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

I forgot the name of the shop that he bought the guitar from.

SPEAKER_02 2:53

Norms rare guitar. Not a sponsor of this show, but a great place to go in uh your San Fernando Valley guitar shopping experience.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

But I'm gonna go to the show, I know bassist to shamaska.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

Marizaki san no basua, basuno renshua.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

Oh, because I want to be a master basser.

SPEAKER_02 3:39

Very clever. Yes. Well, and you should do a little bass performance on this uh podcast sometime. Well, you can do uh because uh the podcast you uh edit in those little jingles between sections. So you can just be like, you know.

SPEAKER_00 3:57

Well, yeah, well, it can be like like I'm not there yet.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

We'll get there. Well, look, you can play like uh uh Japanese rail car station jingles, but in the style of a Seinfeld bass slapping rip.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

You know, that sounds like funky na ikibagi mot it's like.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

Yeah, funky, funky na ikki, dude. Funki. Let me take you to funky town. A funky station, man, the funkiest Japanese station. But wouldn't it be great if there was one funky station in like Osaka where they got a bit more of a sense of humor? And it was like in a part of town that was like known for its like funk era in like some part, and like that particular station had like a really funky one. It's like, ah, yes, it's it's appropriate in this exact place and nowhere else.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

I know in Japan it seems like everybody has a jingle. Like I was at the Nagoya station, Nagoya Ikide, the ano sinkanse matatara judo hambaikini juga kitaksangato ni hai turuniskido, nga katoga, ongakuda, nga tukutu. I don't know, I don't know that I don't remember the music, but the cart play the music, so people stay away from the cart.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

Oh, it's like it's like Udusai music. Oh, oh, it's like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

But it has the jingle.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

So jido humbaiki is one of those S tier Japanese words that's just too cool. So Jihanki.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

Yeah. I was saying it wrong as judo hanbaiki.

SPEAKER_01 5:30

Oh, that's gonna be awesome. I wish.

SPEAKER_02 5:32

Yeah. Some sort of automated judo vending machine.

SPEAKER_00 5:35

But there used to be shudo hambaiki.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

Jido is automatic. Oh, like some dude would be like no, you have to remember oh you don't remember. My grandma had a um biryado horliard hall, gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 5:53

I thought you were talking about b uh oishi birya. Right.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

Yeah, yeah. I I think I've seen those. We had those vintage machines from like the old Coke machines, the little red thing on like four metal legs, and you just pop the fridge open and there'd just be like a ro have you ever seen these? Oh shit. I'm pretty sure I've seen the kind of thing you're talking about. And it's like, you know, you can pull one out and then the mechanism locks you from pulling any of the other ones, and you close it.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

You can only get one at a time.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

Very happy to have uh Chris is back for another guest episode. Improvisodes. Oh god na this. Hi. Yeah, so we did comedy together and uh we just bonded over our love of uh new well, we actually met. This is a Japanese cultural thing. How did we meet? Uh I I so Chris had been going to this school since grade school. I was transferring in high school as a as a freshman to the school, and we were on like some kind of like get to know your classmates retreat thing for like ninth grade.

SPEAKER_00 7:15

Jun is it.

SPEAKER_02 7:16

And um Chris was you know playing piano in like uh some kind of communal room where we were uh doing some kind of like sort of like a camping um trip of of sorts, and he was playing like a uh theme from was it oh no noblo. Nobolo no nobouimatsu's uh Final Fantasy III slash Final Fantasy VI soundtrack. And he was playing uh either the Magitech Factory theme or the Ultros theme, and I was like, I know that song. And I went up to him, I was like, Oh, you're playing the Ultros theme. He's like, Yeah, man, it is the ultra that you know the friendship just took off from I mean more so, maybe not exactly. Well, I was just very excited. I was like, wow, this is like a real fellow nerd or yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

It's like somebody who bothered to learn something on the piano. It's like that's the thing. It's like I don't want to learn like box concerto, I want to learn how to play the ultras theme, so that's what I said. And that's why So he bonded over Japanese video game music. Almost it always. Yeah. Banger after banger. Or good luck.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

Banger after banger. Banger! None.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

Uh oh, banger is a slanger for a really great song that really slaps you in the face, like banger.

SPEAKER_00 8:33

Well, I I I oh I'm I I thought banger was something else. Uh well, it could be a excuse me, I'm just naughty.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

Well, it could be bangers and mash.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

That's true.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

That's British.

SPEAKER_02 8:43

Bangers could be like a sausage.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

It's a bacon flavored sausage, it's the best of both.

SPEAKER_02 8:47

Banger.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Bangal.

SPEAKER_02 8:49

So there's that.

SPEAKER_01 8:51

Sausage and bacon, you get bangers. You're done.

SPEAKER_02 8:53

Yeah. Uh and so Chris was studying Japanese in college. I we didn't go to the same college. Yeah. But Chris was studying Japanese in college before I was really practicing Japanese in any serious way.

SPEAKER_00 9:05

Serious? Majimeni.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

Yeah, when did when did the Majimeni Hajimita I don't know, serious uh I mean, once I decided I wanted to to live in Japan for and try and get a job teaching English, then I really devoted myself to like at least learning the sim, you know, in my own way, sort of uh yeah, learning uh with Ron's assistance. Vocabulary grammar, and then you know, studying the the studying the Ganku books and various and various things. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Uh do you know what I found out? What Joe, um N two level, N three level?

SPEAKER_02 9:38

N three, which is there used to be only four levels. They added one in between three and two because the jump from three to two was massive. So I'm the new by new, it's now like ten years old. Yeah, I'm level N three, three of five past.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

But you know what I found out? Nihon ni to look in shitan disgado. Seven eleven de hatarakuniwa in the sangasyo.

SPEAKER_02 10:00

In Sanga It Hitsyonaniwa.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

So you you can get a job at seven. Oh, so this guy's seven eleven.

SPEAKER_02 10:07

Oh wow, dude, that would be a great place to work. So if you pass the N3, the official government sanctions proficiency test, then you can work at 7 Eleven.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

So so so.

SPEAKER_02 10:17

Dude.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Dude, I want discounts on the stuff. I'm qualified. I am qualified. You get discounts on like Onigiri and the the the gods heat. Yeah. Yeah. Or they called it a putaman where I was.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

Oh yeah, yeah. In kan Kansai. Yeah, Kansai, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

So yeah, we met through uh I I don't know if we've done it. Did we introduce the show? Welcome to Nihongoto English No Show.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

You're welcome, regardless. I am your host, Michelle Maritaki.

SPEAKER_02 10:51

Ohio. I mean, um, a whole. I mean, hello. Welcome. No, I mean, look, Chris and I, we get together, we we're we're a couple of silly guys, man. Enjoy. Enjoy it. It's enjoyable. I think it's enjoyable. Yeah. We have a special treat for our studying today. Well, look, we've done a lot of Ganky. So now Ganky's pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 11:22

But um You don't like you don't want to find out what happened to Mary and Takeshi.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

Um I do. I think it's like Dunzor. Oh, you think they're you think they're not going to I mean look, hey, take it, look. This is podcasting. You gotta just take a position and just die on die on that hill. I'm going to die on that hill. They do not belong together. Oh my gosh, what? It was an honest mistake. It was an honest mistake. What do you mean they don't belong together? Oh, don't you think you're I think you're being totally ridiculous?

SPEAKER_01 11:47

Mary needs to keep her standards high, dude. Just is not the time to sacrifice.

SPEAKER_02 11:51

Mary is traveling. You should be open to new experiences.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

He called her back.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

He called her back.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

Okay, alright. He did call her back. That's better than I expected, to be fair. Maybe one more chance. Maybe one more.

SPEAKER_00 12:03

No, no, no, no. Okay. Waste her youth.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

Well, look, what if he like offers to just like pay for everything or I don't know. That's a position of weakness, though. You're like already trying to make up for something you lack. I don't know. It's like the wrong foot, you know.

SPEAKER_00 12:16

I know.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

Tokyo.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

So mea lisa wa Tokyo Kala waza waza takistan yasami kyoto made. Shin kan sende ite.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

What is a long distance relationship in Japanese? What is that?

SPEAKER_02 12:38

I've got I I have a I have a I have a theory about this. Let me see if I can Japaneseify this. So Jitsua. Hi. So may sama uh dito ga daminata takisanga konakata to uhide uhoto sa no uh jitsua yoru a takeshi sa niko iko. It's like 11 p.m., you know, sneaking out of the house. It's like, oh no, you're not seeing that Takeshi fellow. Oh no, he stood me up. Right. Like really like they're gonna be meeting like on the slide. This is just an excuse she's telling. I'm not seeing that Takeshi anymore, and then they're meeting up like late at night and sneaking out and doing all kinds of things. Oh, what happened to that Takesha? Takeshi boy's like, oh no, I'm over him. Like, no, this is all just a front.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

So kinji dareta. Yeah, forbidden love.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

Right, yeah, exactly. We're gonna get the next phone call. Uh-huh. It's gonna be like, are they listening this time? It's like, no, we're it's just us this time. I was not prepared for this story. So great to see you, baby. Let's go and let's go to the uh let's go to the late night uh uh uh kai kaizen sushi or something.

SPEAKER_00 13:48

Okay, don't I don't like it?

SPEAKER_02 13:50

I think it's just uh hot tea in Japanese, yeah. I mean look, I'm just saying that you know that's my that's my thinking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

Sapurai. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:04

Okay, so Chris and I are mutual friend Ron. If there's anyone who knows Ron better than I do, it's Chris, because Chris went to grade school with Ron.

SPEAKER_00 14:13

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

Yes. And Ron was both of our portals into uh Japanese culture properly at that time. Yeah, through his family, of course. Uh so as you know, Ron has passed away uh a number of years ago now, but every now and then I come into the inheritance of more of his uh stuff. And so in place of Genki, I have got some of Ron's Japanese uh translator like study books that he either used in his graduate program or that he used to like supplement his work. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And so we're gonna put you to the test, Michelle. You're gonna look at these Japanese books and you're gonna tell us how much of it you understand.

SPEAKER_03 14:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

These are all like technical kanji for like missile parts and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 15:00

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

It was only one of them, though.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Was he making missiles?

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Well, so appar what he did is he he would take contracts to do technical documents. So like a company would be like, we need somebody to make a manual for our, you know, weapon of mass destruction or whatever. We need you to make this crystal clear. Well, it could also be like international treatment and like and documents and all kinds of stuff. I don't really know personally.

SPEAKER_02 15:23

You probably I mean it was he was sworn to secrecy on a lot of his translation work. Uh yeah. Some of it would be like patents, right? Scientific things or like government uh stuff or like academic papers that were like about the subject of what happened. So let's just pass you. Right, so here's number one. What do we got? And the illustrations are so kalay. So this is like it's got these cute illustrations like ah, everything you wanted to know about missiles, like little parts of missiles. And the illustration on the front is also a reference to Doctor Strange Love with the cowboy on the missile.

SPEAKER_01 16:13

The missile is smiling. It's like it's happy, it's about to kill a bunch of people. I mean, it should be, right? I mean, that's what a missile is just I'm fulfilling my function.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

Yay! Right. The missiles change the war fighting places. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

This is this like the history, the military history of missiles.

SPEAKER_02 16:39

No, that's probably just an introduction to missiles, you know.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

Oh, you have to avoid misairo.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

Dude, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

Oh, don't be found by the miserable.

SPEAKER_01 16:52

Don't be found. There we go. I like that.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

So that could have like like jamming tech radar things, or I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

Yeah, no mess. Oh my gosh, that's like uh physics.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

I mean, it seems like a very complete book for what it is. I'm kind of blown away by it, even though I can't read 99% of it.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

Oh, this is kind of the book that my husband likes.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

Alright, look, so in case that uh book you couldn't find the information about missiles that you wanted from that book, uh consider uh uh this book.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

This is interesting.

SPEAKER_02 17:39

So what's uh it's miseru no nani? Oh, everything no sube everything about uh the technical aspect of missiles.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

This one opens left to right, huh?

SPEAKER_02 17:49

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

I guess we're just like we're doing it western style or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

Right. Tatewa o tikikara. Yeah, I just interested.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

So can you uh you know do us a dramatic reading of like turn to a random page and like right in the middle of the technical manual? Not not the intro, I want like get to the meat of it and tell us something about missing.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

One that's next to a picture of an explosion or something.

SPEAKER_02 18:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get into it.

SPEAKER_01 18:29

Okay, so I got about ten per cent of that. I got about three per cent of that. Oh, homingo, okay. Okay, I got that.

SPEAKER_02 18:49

Uh okay, so um interesting.

SPEAKER_00 18:53

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

All right, so let's say uh, you know, you um are doing uh want to know more about the Japanese political system, and uh here is a book on ministries and agencies.

SPEAKER_01 19:06

What does it mean to do miru miru? What is it like? Emphasis?

SPEAKER_00 19:09

Oh, because there are many graph in channels.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

Yeah, miru miru, like look at miru, miru.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

But mirumiru also means like more. Okay. So it's uh pun. Of course it's by hot, by seeing it. They love their words. And then like more and more. By reading more. Of course. Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

So uh, but yeah, uh what I and then he has some notes.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

He has some handwritten notes. Oh, notes. Oh, what do we got?

SPEAKER_00 19:33

Nemoyomenai.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

He did have notoriously small and totally illegible handwriting. This is true. That's not helping us right now, unfortunately. Come on, we're getting communications from beyond the grave.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

Yes. This context will be perfect. Maybe some of them will be more legible, if indeed he wrote it in class. Could you tell if he was writing in Japanese or English? It was I think it was Japanese.

SPEAKER_02 19:56

Yeah, you'd think you'd want to.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

So when you can't read somebody's hand like Nihongo, uh Jiga Tashasugite Yomemasi.

SPEAKER_02 20:03

Tasasugite?

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Tashasu is like too too fluent fluent in writing.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

Oh, right, oh like, oh you're too you're too good at writing and I can't read it. That's cute, so passive aggressive.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

And it's like, oh, how artful. Yeah, dude, that is that is very Japanese, though.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

That's funny. That's that. Uh we got this guy. Is this uh uh culture, you said?

SPEAKER_00 20:31

It's like a culture. Japanese history.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

Oh, okay. Well that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

Yeah, ataman is no eat seeps into your head.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

Like, is that like a guarantee or that's what it says?

SPEAKER_00 20:46

It's gotta be a guarantee. Well, I mean uh two thousand words of the history in one book.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

Wow. I mean, I kinda like the concept behind these books. They're like a very particular subject, and you know, it's kind of a big a little explainer. Yeah. They're not like overly long, they're just very dense with uh information and a lot of vocabulary that is like so far beyond my conversation. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But uh I mean I could try to read some of it, but I'm sure I would just fail pretty hard. But I could I mean I could read the hiragana. My reading was never good. But there's I mean, there the thing is in these subject matters, there's gonna be kanji that you would never find in any other circumstance. Yeah, some of them surely would, but like when you get into like technical missile stuff, like that's not something even a Japanese person would necessarily learn, even unless they specialized in a field, potentially.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

No, this this is kyoto. Oh, really? Oh, that's kyoto. Oh, it's like low map, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Where's Kawatachi? Yeah. I spent a lot of time on Kawatamachi. It's a cool place.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

Uh I mean uh to Kamachi Kawara machi, machinik. I never lived in Machi.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

You never lived in Omachi? Oh. Well, I guess it's sort of like if you go to Germany's like, oh, you went to Berg. Oh went to the Berg's.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

I have another story from my travels if you're interested. So Yo sensei, he he and his wife, Michiko, they were our hosts, like they came over to the to us with us to Japan. And Yo sensei all the time, he would take us out, just the just the guys, just the boys, we would all meet at the uh a sahi microbrewery downtown.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

Nice.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

And we would order these the Dai joki of the like the half and half. It was half a sahi black and half a sahi lager. Oh it's like a black and tan or whatever the word. Well, it's it's it's unbelievable because it's all brewed on the premises. Unbelievably clean tasting beer. And we'd buy like, you know, the oh my god, dude, Izokaya snacks, right? Like the little finger foods. And so we would do this all the time, right? And so we were finally coming to the point where we're gonna leave Kyoto. And it's like, all right, everybody, we're gonna be getting on the Shinkansen and going to Kyoto. And it's like the ladies get on the Shinkansen, they're like, Well, so where the ladies are gone. It's like, yeah, no, the ladies are taking the Shinkansen. You're taking the fucking dream bus.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

I'll need the buses.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

So Yosense spent our travel budget on beer for the guys, and so we had to take we had to take the overnight bus from Kyoto to Tokyo. And uh it was it was a dream bus. No, they called it, I mean, I don't know, I he that's what he called it. No, it is, but it's designed for Japanese people, so you know, long torso, short legs, so it was not not easy for Americans, unfortunately. Um but it was I I mean, look, it was worth drinking. Like to be clear, I would I would take the dream bus again to go to that Asahi microbrewery. That was insane, but uh that was fun.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

And that's in Kyoto. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

And then and so the ladies were all like freshly rested and had like a whole day to chill out in Tokyo. We just like giving them like, oh my god, what's going on? I had like one hour of sleep.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Next book.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

Not really, I don't know. I've never heard of him.

SPEAKER_02 24:05

I don't know anything about economics, that's not surprising.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

But there's another theory.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

Sorry, I I'm sorry, I just reactively read what was on the screen. Sorry. That's the bullet, the bullet train.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

Dangan I mean it got cowboy. What uh I don't understand. It's like a bullet. Swing through like wow.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

Dude, that is that is so soothing. I'm so soothed by that. I'm just like I'm like drifting, I'm like, oh my god, it's so nice. Anyway, I don't have no idea what you were saying, but it was great. Uh choking is a word that sounds familiar.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Yeah, savings.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

Oh, your savings. Okay. So what was that about what was that all about? And what was the gist of that passage in English?

SPEAKER_00 25:45

So like um to get uh profit?

SPEAKER_02 25:48

I think that's oh what do you know?

SPEAKER_00 25:51

An economic theory about how to get profit, I never would have it's lucky, but um if you if for this couple, their profit came from somebody else's mouth.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

Well, that's yeah, that checks out.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

If it's the opposite, then it's not funny anymore.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

Is that like a joke? They're like, yeah, you know, it's a little economics humor. It's a little economic humor there, folks.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

There's no such a thing as free nun.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

Winners and losers. They do call economics the dismal science.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

Yes, I do like that. I do like that phrase.

SPEAKER_02 26:22

Alright, let's speedrun a few books and then you can choose which ones uh capture your interests. What do we got? So give us the title and then a translation. Can you do that for us?

SPEAKER_00 26:40

So what's this here? The textbook for the economy that American high school students are reading. Okay. They are not American high school students.

SPEAKER_02 26:50

Yeah, none.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

I have a daughter who is in high school.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

I mean, you can get through college and not take a single economic.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

I'll leave that to the bankers. They got that. Oh, fascinating.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

Alright, what else we got?

SPEAKER_00 27:14

Walak. Oh, you guys online, so you can join the club.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

The club, huh?

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Oh my gosh, 10,000 yen to join.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

What is that, like a hundred bucks? No, a thirty bucks. A thousand bucks? It's like a thousand.

SPEAKER_02 27:30

A hundred man? Ichiman?

SPEAKER_00 27:33

Ichimon sounding like 130 bucks.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Give or take, you know, 50% depending on your changes. Oh. So what's waraku? Is it like wa raku, like a peaceful life?

SPEAKER_00 27:48

Law forever.

SPEAKER_01 27:51

Is it like laughing? No, that's like a word warao.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

No, it's walaku. So kotulah. It's the peaceful at the heiwa no.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

Yeah, so budo is the the way of boo. Right. Fighting, right? Yeah, but kotulama is the uh each word that has the spirit.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

So kotulama no budo is like a budo of word.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

But then the guy has this sword.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Budol is like a grape.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

Budo.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

No, isn't it isn't it like martial arts? Budol.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

So the martial arts arts.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

So it's like the martial arts of the spoken word? That's pretty that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Yeah, like the words have uh I don't know. That's it.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

But the the but the pictures have the gi. Right.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

Yeah, it's like a clearly an actual martial art. I wonder why he had this one.

SPEAKER_00 28:45

Oh yeah, that's a good Japanese verbs at a glance.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

This I think could actually be used on a regular basis on this show. Perhaps we could learn Japanese verbs at a glance from this very textbook. Yeah, it's it's a good one. I did have it back in the day. Alright, yeah, g throw me some verbs and I'll see if I I know what they are. Most of those I did, but we'll just do one at a time. Swim. Take off the clothes? Uh I don't remember. Oh right.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:49

Probably borrow, right? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

Kesu. Yeah. No ketsu. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That I knew.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

Oh, Keshigomu. Of course, Keshi Gomu is an eraser, so Kesu would be to erase. Yeah, it's erase rubber or to talk. Yeah. It's an erase rubber. Hanasu.

SPEAKER_00 30:08

Matsu.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

To carry or hold.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

Matsu to wait.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

Or to wait. Yeah, wait, it's not stop, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:15

Matsu. Asobu. Play.

SPEAKER_02 30:19

Die. Die. Jump or fly. Yeah. Yes, jumping and flying are the same verb.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

Well, they're they are in magic too, in Magic the Gathering, so whatever. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

Well, jump is just a it lets you fly for one turn. Yeah, to fly. Yeah, but it's not a permanent state that a that a creature can have. It's not an enchantment. It's like a sorcery that'll give a creature flying for one turn, right? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

You are technically correct. The best kind of correct. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Jump, fly.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

You'll boot.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

Call?

SPEAKER_00 30:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

Oh, nice. Oh. Call out, right? Well, maybe. Well, Chris, Chris said die before I did, so I think I'm like maybe four points, and Chris maybe has two. Continue.

SPEAKER_00 31:03

What's up?

SPEAKER_02 31:04

Oh man, he got that one over again.

SPEAKER_00 31:08

It's got like really light handwriting.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Light touch.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

Yeah. Sumu. I mean, it has to be not be sorry. Sumu to live.

SPEAKER_02 31:24

Oh too. Oh, Sunday mas. Okay, okay. I just never think of it as sumu, but yeah, sundamas.

SPEAKER_01 31:30

Yeah. You know, nomu. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:32

Yomu.

SPEAKER_01 31:33

To read.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

Yeah. Furu.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

To be cold. Foodie mm. No, is that is that it's not snowing, is it?

SPEAKER_00 31:41

Yeah, like furu is like hame ga furu. Oh, f like fall.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

To fall? Yeah. Oh, okay, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

Ori. I can only think of or to arrive? To get off. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

To get off a train. Yeah, okay. Or to end.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

Yeah, to end. Kakaru. Kakakemas.

SPEAKER_01 32:05

What the hell does that mean?

SPEAKER_00 32:06

Yeah, I don't know. Like it says kakaru is to be suspended, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 32:11

Like to pause something? Like to hang? To like hang over something?

SPEAKER_00 32:16

Isn't that kakeru?

SPEAKER_02 32:18

Hmm. Oh well kakeru is one of those verbs that has like a million. Yeah. Kakeru is like a thousand things, right? Including wearing your glasses and a number of many other things. It's like it's like put. It's like needing put essentially in a way. Well, it's I I just remember that one just has a lot of.

SPEAKER_00 32:32

Oh, but Hashio Kakeru. Hashika kakaru. Like the bridge. Uh-huh. Like to put the bridge on. Kakadu.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

Oh, like so it's like hanging a bridge, hanging the glasses on your nose. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, and you can do it like with a um uh with a eh, like a picture on the wall, right? That's a kakeru situation. Yeah, I think you're I think that's yeah. Yeah. So it's like this hanging kind of idea.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

Kaburu.

SPEAKER_02 32:56

To put on your head. Oh, yeah. That's a weird cognate.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

Nodu.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

Nodu? Nodu. Nori mass. To get on? To get on, yes.

SPEAKER_00 33:06

Okay. Haru.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

Spring. No, I know that's not.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

No, it's not height day must. It's not putting on clothes, is it?

SPEAKER_00 33:13

No, um to affix or to paste. Affix.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

Oh, uh yeah, there's some that that checks out for me. I forget what there's some like stamp, there's a word for a stamp or some kind of uh kite or haru. Okay. And then when I would go to get my uh like passport renewed, they would, you know, haru. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:32

Yeah, you're putting stamps on things. Understand. Alright, we got here.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

Med speak.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

Medikaru go. It's rough.

SPEAKER_01 33:52

Yeah, where does it talk about old people choking on on ya?

SPEAKER_00 33:55

I don't know. Mochi.

SPEAKER_02 33:57

Yeah, I think I browsed that medical one and like it had like some of these books have like slang or like idioms of of that you would hear in a medical context.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

I really want to find my conse ben book. I really enjoyed doing konsai ben, but I can't hardly remember any of it now.

SPEAKER_00 34:13

Ruta Ruta?

SPEAKER_01 34:17

Like a like a rodo. Roto.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

Yeah, like a like a no Ruta Rota Ruta Rutaki Oensa Daito Kin Q me to Moscakuni Tamuros de Kusugini To Chak Sulukanza. Yokara.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

Some kind of drunk, uh fun person is what I got from that.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

I don't know. I never knew that.

SPEAKER_01 34:49

What it's not it's not like what is it? It's not like a plumber who like works in. No. What is it? I don't understand any of that.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

How do you call those people? Uh the people who stay in the premise of the hospital, just like hang out, and then like when the ambulance comes and they see people who's like dying, whatever, they get excited, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Oh, oh, the like a gawker or like a So like literally rooting for someone to die. Oh my gosh, what a weird thing. That's a weird one, right? Like rooter.

SPEAKER_00 35:26

It's so dark.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

Well, I just I think it's interesting because it's like that's such a weird grabbing of root from the English language. Yeah, you were rooting for you. It's like, yeah, we're rooting for you to die. It's like, no, no, dude, that's not how we use it. Like, what are you doing with it?

SPEAKER_02 35:38

Or or no, or maybe wait, maybe they're not rooting for maybe they're like to live. They're like, oh yeah, dude, like they get out of the ambulance, like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:45

Maybe it goes both ways. Maybe there's there's black and white rooters. Yeah, yeah. There's like white hat and black and there's like red hat ones with oh, I'm just here for the chaos. Yeah, die, I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 35:55

It's like the drama. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

Gunnar.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

Gunnar. Gunner. Okay, and denai.

SPEAKER_01 36:04

Oh, Jesus, really? That's in there? What a strong student? What? I think they're using like gunner. I think they mean school shooter, dude. Oh my god. No, okay. Sorry. Maybe okay, maybe I jumped a gun on that. I'm like, Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 36:16

Like Sai Shonokurasu, so like students who like pre-study the textbooks before the classes. Oh, like jumping, like jumping.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

Jumping the gun. Dude, that's amazing, those weird English idiosyncrasies that they borrowed just the way to make them in company.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

It's the Eva Medica do Yogo.

SPEAKER_01 36:40

Oh. That's only more confusing to me now.

SPEAKER_02 36:43

So it's only medical words that are like loan words from English that are but are but that are Japanese words?

SPEAKER_00 36:49

Oh my god, dude.

SPEAKER_02 36:49

There's too many words. Very specific.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

Yeah, I that's like too specific for me.

SPEAKER_00 36:53

Aiboru.

SPEAKER_01 36:56

That one I know. Yeah, that I can guess.

SPEAKER_02 37:00

Oh, I've got a condom story. So I was got, I was going, you know, it's clean, but it's it's it's it's too clean. So I was in a um a train station and I was going on a date. Or I was or I wasn't on the date yet, I was you know, traveling to go on the date. And I was like, oh, I should be responsible and I should like carry a condom with me, right? That would be the sensible thing to do, you know, safety first. Uh I didn't know if I would get to use it, but I was like, I should have some. So I went up to like this like uh I don't know if you called it combini exactly, but it's like a little stall in the train station where there's like um some like uh nanny kiosk. Yeah, kiosk. There was like some like Obasan in there. And she was condom still? Well, I thought it's possible. I thought it's possible.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

Uh well, you know, they got Breathmants and Kennedy and they got this Well, yeah, I was just like, I just thought it was possible.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

I mean, and also I'm thinking it's a train station. Like people are traveling, right? They might have they might have chapstick, they might have all number manner of useful things. Sure, sure, you know? And so I was like, it couldn't hurt to ask them. Like it's kind of like if I went to a 7-Eleven, surely you could ask. Right. So I was like, oh, this is just like a little we have everything you might want, little shop. Like they might, they might, they might have a toothbrush, right? They might have condoms. Sure. So I could, I didn't, I didn't know that I could just be like condom or whatever. And so I called the lady and I was like, uh Gomu Arimaso. Oh no. And she's like, uh say what? I was like, uh Gomu. And then she was like, Kitanai! Like, get them out of here, dirty man. I was like, and then I said, uh, and I was like, Kitanai dokte kide this. Like, no, I'm like doing or I said, like, I'm doing it so I'm not dirty. Right. Like, I want the condom so I'm not being dirty. Right. You're saying it's dirty. I'm like, no, the condom makes it not dirty. So actually, you're being gross. Philosophical discussion. You know what? You can't a grown man can't like ask if you have like a perfectly valid medical device such as a condom, like that you're selling at your store, like without you getting offended. That was like, like, please grow up. You know, it's gomu slang.

SPEAKER_03 39:06

Yeah, Gomu's like because it's like a rubber.

SPEAKER_01 39:09

Oh, okay. So it's like, do you got any rubbers? I don't know, whatever. I guess I mean it's like it's it is slightly more uncouth, but it's hard to imagine really like parsing it at that level.

SPEAKER_02 39:18

Yeah, I mean, maybe she thought I was like being a creep and like trying to get a rise out of her, but like I was just sincerely asking if they carried them or not, you know. Alright, just a few more books.

SPEAKER_00 39:28

And then one um this.

SPEAKER_01 39:36

Oh my god. I couldn't learn algebra in English, let alone bloody Japanese. I wonder what kind of stuff he's working on when you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 39:48

Oh, this is part of that series, yeah. So what's this one?

SPEAKER_00 39:53

Oh boy read by American high school students.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

That's not a thing that exists. I don't know what era this is harking back to where kids in high school learned Yeah, kids in American high school. Yeah, that's I don't know, it's just made up. The the legend of the of the textbook. It's a novel. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

That's deep. That's deep, bruh.

SPEAKER_02 40:18

What's that once more time? What'd you think?

SPEAKER_00 40:24

The new thing for humans that you need like truly important needed thing for human beings. Endurance.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Oh I mean, there's an argument to be made for that, I suppose.

SPEAKER_02 40:37

No, Ron was uh and yes, he was certainly adjacent to uh some organizations with particular spiritual beliefs. Oh, yeah, that's interesting. There are a lot of Japanese companies that'll last for a hundred years.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

Alright, two more books, and then the grand finale book that I will finish the textbook.

SPEAKER_02 40:59

Oh, okay. Something about companies, shakai?

SPEAKER_00 41:01

Shakai?

SPEAKER_02 41:02

No, no, no, relations, yeah, shakai gaku. Yeah, and society.

SPEAKER_00 41:06

What's Ningbi?

SPEAKER_02 41:07

I was thinking of Kaisha. Uh Kaisha. Shakaisha Shakai.

SPEAKER_00 41:11

The Ethics and Society.

SPEAKER_02 41:12

Ethics and Society. There you go. Not ready for that. And then there's this which is. Okay, so this was Ron's partner's uh uh book, and and she said that when she showed Ron that book, Ron said, oh, it's that book. What was what did Ron mean when he said oh, it's that book? What's uh what about this book is so immediately recognizable and and particular?

SPEAKER_00 41:39

Well, I think everybody who loves words need to have koljian.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

So what is kol Jen?

SPEAKER_00 41:46

It's not dictionary, but it's the dictionary.

SPEAKER_02 41:49

It's the dictionary. So what makes it the dictionary compared to it's thick, it's thick. It has the most words, and therefore it's the best.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

Well, I just mean like And it's the second edition.

SPEAKER_02 41:59

So when did this dictionary first print it? I mean, why is it is it just like is it the most complete Japanese dictionary? So this is like a Japanese dictionary for Japanese people.

SPEAKER_00 42:08

Yeah, but it's the dictionary. So if you are SmartyPants or have Smart Pants, either way, call Gian.

SPEAKER_02 42:17

Okay. Is it a simply a a brand name of a dictionary? Or is it like does it have some special properties of I think it's it's like repositories?

SPEAKER_00 42:25

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

So it's just got a long history and it's uh I think I mean it just has like every Japanese word in it, unlike everything else.

SPEAKER_00 42:32

And then we are they added.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

You can just see because it goes through it's like iwaru, iware, like it just every one after the other.

SPEAKER_02 42:37

Might you say it's sort of the equivalent of the Oxford English dictionary, but for uh Japanese? Yeah. And it's called what again? And it's one volume, dude. Just like one volume. Interesting. Here you are. Here you are, if you could pack those up. And now I'm gonna get uh the the last book, which is not a Japanese book, but an entirely English book.

SPEAKER_00 42:58

Entirely English book. I wanna read this book.

SPEAKER_03 43:02

A gog.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

Yeah. I don't think he I don't think he read this book tairo. He just like had it.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:15

It doesn't like yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:17

Behold. Yeah, it does just seem ugly brand new. Behold. Oh my god. Those of you who have been on the Gold vs. Fish streams have seen this.

SPEAKER_00 43:26

That's not a compact.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

Well, it is though, because it's normally it would be nine of those.

SPEAKER_02 43:32

Oh wow. This is the compact Oxford English Dictionary, one of Ron's books. And uh it's not it doesn't claim to be a travel size. It's merely the compact Oxford English Dictionary.

SPEAKER_00 43:44

How big is the font?

SPEAKER_02 43:45

Oh my god. Well, why don't you open it and find out?

SPEAKER_00 43:48

Like nine, seven?

SPEAKER_02 43:50

Uh I wish. Have a look.

SPEAKER_00 43:53

Oh my god. I can't read this. It's so it's like two point.

SPEAKER_02 44:01

You literally can't read it without like a magnifying glass. You need an apparatus. So each page is actually nine pages. See how it's broken down? Wow. So each page is nine pages of the Oxford English Dictionary condensed into one page. And this I think was what, maybe like 1991 or something, or I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 44:17

How many more words can there possibly have been since then?

SPEAKER_00 44:19

So it contains uh two thousand words a pound.

SPEAKER_02 44:25

Man. So you know the Oxford English Dictionary is known for you know being incredibly complete. It has um yeah, many volumes. And when it defines a word, it not only defines the word, but it also uh gives you like some history. This the history of the word, and like, ah, this is how the word was used in 1793 in this literary example. Oh, and here's an example from 1645. Oh, and here's an example from like 1422. Like they'll go back and so and then you can track like the spelling changes over time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it'll really give you like a long list of like the history and use of these words, even in uses that are completely antiquated, but are still noted in the dictionary for your perusal. Right. Right, yeah. This one this one is supposed to go back to like documenting, you know, all of English, you know, forever or whatever. So why don't you, Michelle, pick a number?

SPEAKER_03 45:17

Number is divination.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

Yeah, so this this is a bit that I've been doing on the goat versus fish stream, but I think we actually bring it on to this stream.

SPEAKER_03 45:22

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 45:22

Because we're learning Nihongo in English. So please give me a number between uh one and two thousand three hundred seventy-one.

SPEAKER_00 45:30

Uh uh Nissen Niju Roku.

SPEAKER_02 45:34

Nissen Niju Roku. 2029?

SPEAKER_00 45:38

Six.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

Oh, sorry. Well, six is nine upside down. You can see how I get cut. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. All right, so 2020.

SPEAKER_01 45:45

Okay. Oh, kotoshi does. Uh so this. Cirquity, people. Does anybody know? Anybody in the chat knows what cirquity means?

SPEAKER_02 45:58

All right. So Ichimai no peji wa qai no peji ga haite maskara uh Ichikara qitotsuno uhangoid. Nana.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

Hi.

SPEAKER_02 46:09

Hi, nana. Hidari ka nakaka miki. Hi, hi.

SPEAKER_00 46:15

Naka.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

Naka. Hi. Naka no ue nakanonaka naka no sta.

SPEAKER_00 46:19

Nakanonaka.

SPEAKER_02 46:20

Nakanonaka. Alright. So we are on page two thousand two hundred twenty-six, sub page seven, middle column, middle of the middle column.

SPEAKER_00 46:30

Te no kakoti.

SPEAKER_02 46:31

Well, I can't read it, so I need to take a photo of it with my phone and then magnify the photograph.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

Technomagic. Technomagic. All right.

SPEAKER_02 46:41

Chris, could you please hold the book? Alright, so I took a picture of the passage, and I'm going to zoom in. Oh, you're made. Alright, so it seems that we are in the middle of uh oh dear.

unknown 46:56

Oh dear.

SPEAKER_02 46:57

Oh, we're we're I think we're at some you're in the middle of a word. Okay, we're in the middle of the word tennis. Really? We're in the middle of yeah, we're we're doing tennis right now. Okay. We're somewhere in tennis. Uh, you know, like one, this is on sorry, this is in the left column at the top. One. A game in which a ball is struck with a racket and driven to and fro by two players in an enclosed oblong court, specially constructed for the purpose, and in the developed form of the game, having an enclosed corridor on one of the long sides rooved over by a penthouse. Well, uh isn't that great? Okay, so now True.

SPEAKER_01 47:33

It sounds about right. Are they talking about the place where the judge sits, like up in the little thingy? Is that what that is?

SPEAKER_02 47:38

No, it no, it's tennis. A game in which a ball is struck by a racket. So they're describing, you know, they're defining tennis. Right. I don't know about all that other stuff, but I mean I'm interested in that other stuff. Well, they were describing the court.

SPEAKER_00 47:51

Ah.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

Yeah, I don't think of a tennis court as being oblong, but maybe that's a historical definition.

SPEAKER_01 47:57

Well, I mean, is a rectangle oblong? No. It's not, right?

SPEAKER_02 48:01

No, oblongs have curves. Right. I yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 48:03

So that's yeah, so I mean it's just, you know, this I mean, look, this Oxford, it's obviously not what it's cracked up to be. It's already wrong about ten.

SPEAKER_02 48:09

No, I think it's like it's probably just some historical definition of terrorists. Like it probably became the form that it is now. I'm sure you're right. So then it's uh okay, but moving now though to the middle column, so we're here we're in 1880. L. Higgin Handbook Needlework, Kidimur Twill is good for tennis aprons, dresses, curtains, balls, rackets, and apparel, but all sorts of knick-knacks, telephone books. Uh okay. 1887, Epoch 19, August 162. The baseball pitcher's arm as well as the tennis diseases. Ah, like pitcher's arm, some kind of like arthritis or pitcher's elbow or something.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

Is that the name of a newspaper? Like Epoch or whatever?

SPEAKER_02 49:00

Yeah, yeah. So that might have been like in in 1887, made perhaps an epoch magazine number 19, August 262. I don't know what the slash two, but it's a magazine thing. Yeah, and then it's like in that magazine the there was a phrase that was, quote, the baseball pitcher's arm, as well as the tennis diseases. Tennis diseases. And that was like the context in which tennis was used in that historical context, right? Tennis diseases. And then it's like, ah, let's move on to 1897, um outing US XXX466 slash one, uh, quote, uh, each with a flannel tennis bag in her hand. Okay. It's always used. So yeah, these are you know historical examples of the word tennis being used in various publications throughout history in their context. And then uh I was looking up uh the word for grass, uh-huh. Grass, like and it was getting into like use of like the 1400s and the spelling of it would be like uh all the spellings for like old English spellings. Grice.

SPEAKER_00 50:06

How do you spell grass in the case?

SPEAKER_02 50:08

I don't remember why, but it would be it'd be things like like G R Y S. G-R-Y-C-E. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, but you get these like you get these gnarly old English spellings that could barely understand.

SPEAKER_00 50:19

Oh glad that the spelling was updated.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

Yeah, it's it's a little better now. It's still not great, but yeah. It came from a Frisian. I'm trying to remember the old English, it was an offshoot of the Dutch languages.

SPEAKER_02 50:31

Well, here, we we we got we got we can go pretty far back here. Okay, so we got like 1400 grower in praise of peace of the tenet to ween. As in I assume to win, but it's spelled W-I-N-N-E. To win or probably lose a a chase. My no lift wit error that the ball be wrong. B-A-L, I assume they're talking about the ball is right.

SPEAKER_01 51:01

Ron, like throne, maybe?

SPEAKER_02 51:03

Oh, like throne. Yeah, it could be Ron, could be thrown, could be the ball could be thrown. Yes. Uh 1460. Eternally missed. I bring, spelled B-R-Y-N-G. I bring the bot a ball spelled B-A-L-L-E. Have and play the with all A-L-L-E, and go to the tennis T-E-N-Y-S at the Tennies T N L. Oh my god, dude. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 51:38

Okay, whatever you say. So yes. Stop me.

SPEAKER_02 51:42

Uh uh, you know, we do our best. We do our best to understand that. Um but uh what a fascinating way to dive into English. So I think that it would be fun in Nihongoto English to maybe maybe we could do a companion piece. You know, we take that dictionary and we take this dictionary and we do like word of the day. And we just flip to a random page and we just read a random passage, which is a really crazy word that you have to otherwise look up.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

You have both of them, and they were both Rons, so it's kind of perfect.

SPEAKER_00 52:08

Thank you, Ron. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:09

Thanks. That's quite a bequeath, sir.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

No, what do you think? So can you give us a random word from the Japanese one, maybe?

SPEAKER_00 52:15

Oh, maybe put it all the way down.

SPEAKER_02 52:18

Yeah, let's let's do that and call it a day. What do you say?

SPEAKER_00 52:21

I was eating slow mammoth. Not a problem.

SPEAKER_01 52:24

Not a problem at all.

SPEAKER_02 52:27

So tennis was our word of the day for English. Let's now go. Oh, watcher, watch your key there.

SPEAKER_00 52:32

Okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 52:33

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 52:34

Okay, what's the page number?

SPEAKER_02 52:36

Uh oh, why don't you just go to uh why don't you go to page uh you can go random. I like doing picking a random number, but why don't you just you can yeah. Alright. What do we got?

SPEAKER_00 52:48

What page are we on?

SPEAKER_02 52:49

What do you select?

SPEAKER_00 52:50

Senhyaku goju san peji.

SPEAKER_02 52:52

Okay. Senhyaku Goju San Peji.

SPEAKER_00 52:56

Yeah, but it's like Xinjin. Yeah, Shinjin New person. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 53:05

I mean that was surprisingly comprehensible. I actually know both of those kanji amazingly enough. Like, okay. But it's not like an Akash.

SPEAKER_00 53:15

Oh, Kurisan, Shinjin. Oh, Shinjin. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 53:19

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 53:23

Well, that's is that the same thing as the Shiranahito or whatever? Right.

SPEAKER_00 53:27

Shiranahito. Right.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

The guy. Well, you thought it was the person who didn't know, but I think Shiranaihito is like a person you don't know, like a stranger. Right. I I like mine better.

SPEAKER_01 53:38

Yeah, no, that's I mean the context, obviously. Um but I guess it was katakana. I mean it was Shirakana, so I didn't I wasn't able to see which she it was or whatever. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 53:48

Yeah, Shinjin. Shinjin. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:50

So what does it say? Is this shinjin? Just a person you don't know or you're meeting with you.

SPEAKER_00 53:54

New person. Yeah. Okay. That's Shinjin.

SPEAKER_02 54:03

Ah. Right. Oh, Mutri Don. Red Babies.

SPEAKER_00 54:07

Yeah, the Aukunate.

SPEAKER_01 54:09

Is that Shinchan?

SPEAKER_02 54:12

Shinchang Gozoji the show.

SPEAKER_01 54:17

I mean, he's not technically Akachan. No.

SPEAKER_02 54:19

So Chris, you're our Shinjin for today. Thank you for coming, I'm glad. So, what do you think of the uh your experience on two episodes of the Nihongoto Inglish No Show?

SPEAKER_01 54:28

A lot of fun. I enjoyed being here and just talking about Japanese and speaking Japanese, listening to Japanese. It's just a lot of fun. So thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00 54:35

Well, thank you for coming.

SPEAKER_02 54:37

Yeah, thanks for being our guest. Uh everyone, we are live streaming on Twitch at Nihongoto English. Uh, and you can watch us record these episodes live, live streamed, uh, whenever we feel like it. Uh you just have to follow and find out. But you can essentially watch the episodes before they drop, you know. And uh of course you can listen to Nihongoto English.

SPEAKER_00 55:00

On the second, twelfth and twenty second of the month.

SPEAKER_02 55:03

The second, twelfth, and twenty second of the month. New episodes dropping. Yeah, two because ni, too. Right. Yeah, I gotcha. We are the knights who say ni. And also on the thirty second of the month. Yes. Also yes. On the thirty-second, yes. January 32nd, also, yes.

SPEAKER_00 55:20

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SPEAKER_02 55:21

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SPEAKER_00 55:21

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SPEAKER_02 55:24

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SPEAKER_01 55:26

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SPEAKER_02 55:27

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SPEAKER_01 55:59

I mean, this is a treat in every way. Right. So thank you.

SPEAKER_02 56:02

So ha chane. Bye bye. We'll see you on the next episode. Bye. Bye. Bye.