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Welcome to Finish Drawn, the show that equips men to walk boldly in their faith and finish the risk of life with no regret. The Word of God challenges each of us to run with endurance. In a world full of distractions and challenges, we're here to help you to stay grounded in God's Word, lead with integrity, and live with meaning and purpose. Come along as your host Jeff Drawn helps to equip you by having real conversations with successful men who will tell their stories of perseverance. Clothed in biblical truth, these powerful stories will give you practical wisdom to show how you start. It's how you finish.

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Timmy Runkey serves as the president of Commission International, formerly known as Baptist Medical and Dental Missions International, BMDMI. They're based in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. So in his time as president, he began in 2022. It followed about 13 years of church work, pastoral ministry. He had various leadership roles in the church. And Timmy holds a bachelor's degree from William Carey University, a master's of missiology degree from New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary. In addition to church ministry, Timmy also has a professional background in medical device sales. And then as president of Commission International, Timmy leads a home office of seven full-time employees and more than 200 international employees across ministry operations in Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala, and Nepal. He also enjoys speaking to conferences, providing pulpit service for local churches and various other roles. Timmy and his wife just about 15 years ago felt a deep calling to reach the nations with the gospel. And so they've been doing that pretty consistently ever since. They have one beautiful daughter, Indy, about to be four years old, I think. And they enjoy spending time on the water and traveling together. So and then Beanote, B-Note is all the way here from Nepal. If you don't know where Nepal is, it's a little country squeeze between India and China. But Benoit, Beanote is the field assistant field director for BOBMI. He's been there for over a decade. And so he's married with two kids, Ben, 12 years old, and his daughter Anusha at 10 years old. His wife Rima works with a Christian NGO in Nepal. But before that, Bino worked in for World Vision for 12 years before coming on with BOBMI. So with those kind of resumes, you're probably thinking that Timmy and Beano have just cruised through life. Well, as you will hear every journey, including Timmy and Bino's, have bumps along the way. But it's not how you start, it's how you finish. Let's hear how Timmy and Beano have learned to finish strong. So welcome to the podcast, guys. Great to see you. Honored to be here. Great to see you all the way from Nepal. So I'm honored to have you here, Bino, and all the way from Hattiesburg, Mississippi. Not quite, not quite as far down the road. Not as far as Beano, but we're glad to be here. Well, so so happy to have you. And I've just always I knew that I wanted Timmy to be here, and uh for Bino to be able to be here is just extra special. And so today, this is personal for me. This is a personal uh podcast just because about 16 years ago I went on my first international mission trip uh by the strong encouragement of my wife, uh, who had just been on a mission trip and she'd been hounding me for several years going a mission trip. And so I went to a BMDMI, I know the BMDMI mission trip to Honduras, and yeah, uh just to kind of appease her. Yeah. Uh but then got on that mission trip and I changed my life. And then I connected with a missionary down there, and he taught me how to share the gospel, go door to door. So just a little background for our listeners to how we got here. So uh so after that mission trip, uh came back to Calvary, our men's ministry here had just started a few years before. And so some of us just got on fire, and so we took small teams of men to Honduras throughout the year and just started going door to door with medicine, food, uh, the and of course the gospel. And so it changed the guys that I took. So we would go five or six guys at a time. And so we did that for full, five, six years, and then one day in 2015, uh I was home watching the nightly news. Not not necessarily a normal occurrence for me, but I turned on the nightly news and heard about the earthquake in Nepal and uh how over 9,000 people had died and just total devastation, villages wiped off the face of the map. And so that next Sunday I came to my guys, we were getting ready to go to Honduras for another trip. And I went to my guys and said, guys, we're we're not going to Honduras this time, we're going to Nepal. And I had no idea what that meant. I didn't even know where Nepal was, uh, but I just knew we had to do something. And so uh a few of them agreed, not all of them agreed, because it was and it was really uh nerve-wracking time back then. And so uh so we went to Nepal, uh met Kevin and Beanode for the first time, and just fell in love with the people there, fell in love with with what they were doing over there. And so so we've been going ever since. Every year for the past 10 years, we've been teaming up with these guys and going there and helping. So just just such an honor to help. And then since then, had the honor of coming on the board of BMDMI and now Commissioned International and been able to serve there, uh, I guess starting my seventh year. But uh but anyway, I just want to kind of give the listeners a background kind of where we started. And us at Calvary has had a relationship with BMDMI with Commission International for probably 20 years now. A lot of years. Yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:49

I don't know if you know that fun fact in 2015 when the earthquake happened. Oh wow, I didn't know that. And she called me. I was working in the Cardiac CAF lab at the hospital. She said, Hey, we need to mobilize people to Nepal. I said, What happened? She said, There's been a massive earthquake. And I was like, Okay, well, let's go. And so we went. Uh I went with a few other folks from the home office there, and you know, but yeah, it was a it was an eye-opening trip for sure.

SPEAKER_03 6:17

Yes, yes. Just uh devastation, total devastation. And and we didn't know at the time that BMDMI was even had a has a had a presence in Nepal. So it was a really neat connection because we'd already been going and all that. And so that's really it. So yeah, it's got God connections there.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

And earthquake, that has uh that had been the turning point for me. After that, I joined BMDMI and uh to be able to be part of BMDMI and help people in Nepal. Oh wow. So earthquake was a turning point to me as well.

SPEAKER_03 6:47

Absolutely. God guy connected all of us to that. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 6:52

It gave us as an organization credibility. Yeah. Because we were, you know, it was it predated me. My wife was there at the home office, but I was still in the hospital. And uh and so as an organization, uh as a Christian organization, going in and doing uh good work for the people, actually helping the people, yes, uh, it gave us a lot of credibility with the government. Uh even though a lot of things look different these days. Yes. I I think the foundation was laid then, which is allows us to continue to do the work that we do now. Absolutely. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 7:26

Well, well, let's go back, let's go back a little bit before the earthquakes, and let's go back to y'all's childhood. So let's go back and so we're gonna pull away some uh uh some scabs maybe here, maybe some good things. But uh uh but so kind of just tell me a little bit about y'all's growing up years. We'll take Timmy first, just growing up years, uh, who influenced you? Maybe how did I come to faith in Christ? And tell us a little bit about that, Timmy, about your personal life.

SPEAKER_05 7:51

Yeah, so we're gonna go way back. Uh I didn't grow up in a uh a Christian home per se. Uh I grew up Catholic. And then when I was about four years old, so my dad passed, which was a significant moment, obviously, in any kid's life. And um, and so a lot shifted in our household from that point forward. Uh, but yeah, I went to a Catholic school. And so for me, you know, my relationship with Christ uh was non-existent. It was much more factual, you know, just like you learned two plus two is four. I learned about God, I learned about Christ, and didn't have any, I didn't even have a Bible, you know, that I owned. And then it was at the age of 19 is when I put my faith in Christ. So kind of went all the way through middle school, high school, um, went to a public school after I got out of the private Christian school and yeah, never went to church, never showed up at a youth group, none of those type things. And I think all the all my friends that were Christians maybe a little bit afraid to ask me to go to church. Yeah. Uh I call it my BC days. And uh, but you know, anyhow, so yeah, 19 was when I was invited to church. Uh like a Protestant church, it was a Methodist church and and heard the gospel. And that guy who is the youth pastor, uh, just how the Lord works things out. It was my first Wednesday to ever go to a youth group, which I was in college, so I already felt like the oddball. Like, okay, I'm in college going to high school youth ministry thing. Like, I don't know about all this. And uh, but my first Wednesday was the youth pastor's first Wednesday. And uh still to this day, he's he's one of my best friends, he's a mentor, he's the one that led me to Christ and discipled me. And uh, but you know, the way I tell the story is everything that I was looking for as a teenager, I found in Jesus. So in my rebellion and partying and, you know, the normal thing that I I was involved in, I don't want to say it's what all unbl unbelievers do, but you know, uh the partying, all those type things, I was looking for purpose, I was looking for uh attention, I was looking for value, looking for all those type things. And the moment that uh acceptance and so the moment that I put my faith in Jesus was in the moment that all of those things became a reality. I found purpose, I found forgiveness, I found acceptance, and I found my self-worth. Wow, amazing. Yeah.

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So that's that's my my story. Well, and you had a godly mentor in your in your youth minister, right? So that's right. Yeah that you had growing up, right? Yeah. So I hope listeners, I hope you've listened to the file the the previous two podcasts, because the previous two podcasts, both gentlemen are very influential in the faith. One is over all the Baptist church in the state of Louisiana. Okay. One was the pastor here for thirty years. Wow. And both of them said what turned their life around was their relationship to the local youth group and their local church. Yeah. And the influence those leaders and those youth groups have on them. So people seeing a pattern here that if you have kids, they need to be involved in that local church and that local youth ministry. 100%. And if you're leading the ministry, realize that fruit comes out of leading those young people. So absolutely a great, great word. Absolutely. So what about you, Benedict? So how how was your life growing up? And and did you grow up in a Christian family or or tell us that story?

SPEAKER_01 11:28

I have a different story. I don't nowadays when I even when I think, you know, like uh I wonder like how God worked in a small child. I was a small kid off around maybe 11 or 12 years old, probably my son's age now. I I still remember I bec uh I was in grade five or six. So we had a friend, we had a teacher from India and then most of the Fridays we had always extracurricular activities. Normally we play, we uh tell stories, we do games and all that. So that teacher he used to tell us stories from Bible. And then we we didn't know that was a story from Bible, but like yeah, the story was very interesting. Yes. And then every Friday used to tell us more stories, and then we started following him because he was so good. He was so good to all the students. He was an English teacher, and then we used to follow him all times, and every day after school we used to go to his house to listen to more stories. And then later we realized realized that was the stories from the Bible. And that's how like the first uh thing came up in our mind was like okay, these are these were the stories from the Bible. Yeah, and that's slowly that's how we got connected with him. And then uh I uh uh I remember that uh uh we have sponsored camps uh camps these days, the hospital that rep we call it the leprosy mission hospital. Now I realize that the first Bible I saw was in that hospital because that was run by missionaries, and uh, we used to go there play, and that now I realized okay, that was the first place where I saw a real Bible, you know. So so this is how like we got connected with uh uh Christ, you know, like and then uh after months or so like then this teacher he he brought us he brought us a pastor from from uh a city and then he started doing a small service in his own house. Yeah, and then we were we were about of uh 10-12 kids of the same age. We started doing a small church, and then uh this is how we got connected to Christ. This is how we came to know about Christ. So yeah, so I would uh I s I uh wonder sometimes, you know, like at that age, you know, like how God worked in our heart, you know, like how we that I think that's kind of a miracle now.

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Absolutely, absolutely. We just talked about the m the godly influence a man had on Timmy's life, the godly influence of that man who came and not only taught you, but taught you the word of God. And and uh by the way, this is in a country that now it's less than five percent Christian in the ball, and I'm sure back then that was even even fewer than that. So uh it is the it is the word of God. So so both of you are in ministry as your profession. So so at what point did you realize, okay, I want to do this for a living? I uh I want to put my whole life out there, my livelihood and everything. So at what point did you understand that you wanted to to do Christian ministry?

SPEAKER_01 14:26

So Paul. I worked with Wolvision. Wolves Vision City is a Christian organization, and then I work with another organization called Mini Night Settle Committee. But like in after after earthquake, I had I had an opportunity to be a part of PLD Mahapra. And with different other organizations, like we always uh address on the physical needs of the people. We help them with their school, we help them with their food, we help them with their community needs, water, disintake. But like we never help them, we never help the community to address the spiritual needs, you know. So like with BMDMI, this has been a different story for me. With BMDMI, we help with the physical needs plus we do also help with the spiritual needs. So this is the uh most important, uh interesting part, I would say, working with BMDMI, and I really enjoy how can people with physical needs false spiritual needs.

SPEAKER_03 15:22

Yes, yeah, correct, great story. Absolutely. What about you, Tammy? How when did you realize that?

SPEAKER_05 15:26

Yeah, uh interesting story because you know, when when God transformed my life at 19, it wasn't like God's called me to ministry. I just knew at 19 that one thing I wanted to do was stand in the gap for the teenagers. And so I just connected myself to that particular youth pastor and I was like, look, I'll help you with whatever you need, I'll share my story, share my testimony. And then Nicole, which is now my wife, we started dating. And I was going to school, college for x-ray radiology stuff. And so we started dating. We got married, we stayed plugged in at a local church, and uh, and there still wasn't that call to ministry. And then one day, uh Nicole came home and she said, Hey, there's a small church in the county next to us. It's a real kind of impoverished county, very country. And uh, and she said, you know, that they're needing uh a youth pastor, someone just to teach on Wednesdays and teach on Sundays. Uh, who do we know that could do that? I was like, Oh, I don't know. And then the next next evening at dinner, I looked at Nicole. I said, I think it's us. And she said, to do what? I said, to go help the the church with the youth. And she's like, Absolutely not. And so anyhow, long story short, is we started serving there, and I was still full-time in the cardiac cath lab, loved my job. I ended up taking a job with a medical device company. Uh and that was for me just kind of like the quintessential job. Like I loved everything about it, couldn't imagine doing anything different. Uh, but it was during that time frame that I was wrestling with the call to ministry. And I knew that God was calling me to ministry, and I wasn't telling my wife, and I just told God, I was like, she didn't sign up for this. This isn't what I signed up for. Uh, but the more I pursued kind of like my dream job, loved everything about it. And uh the only way I can describe it is just like a holy discontent. Like I was doing what I loved, but it wasn't satisfying my soul, if that makes sense. And I was wrestling with that, even though I was doing what I thought was the best job in the world. Um, and so I remember coming back home having to have that conversation with Nicole, and I couldn't even get the words out of my mouth. Like I was crying at the dinner table, telling Nicole I'm sorry. And she was thinking, if you can imagine, something totally different. Yes, yeah, right. And uh I was like, God's called us to full-time ministry. And then uh anyhow, so the rest is history from there. So it wasn't like this uh, yes, Lord, hey, I'm all in. It was uh a wrestling with God for a few years until I finally gave up on the wrestling match. Yeah. And uh so we took a very backwards approach because then I had to leave the medical device job, ask for my employment back at the hospital, had a cardiologist vouch for me, and then go to seminary and you know, so it was a uh alternative route. Yeah. But it was God's route, right? And he's blessed it.

SPEAKER_03 18:35

And couldn't imagine doing anything. Absolutely. Well, and we just look at you as the the leader of BMBMI now and those business experiences you had in the business world and the sales world and the ministry world, they all tied in together and yeah, man, the yard of that. So all he had a point here for sure. Yeah. Uh so you lead Commissioned International, and so you've been at the helm for three years now, three full years. And so, you know, incredible responsibility. I mean, like I just said, you've got 200 staff people all over the world between the four different countries that uh mission international is part of. Uh, we've gone through a rebranding of BMDMI to Commissioned International. So yeah, that's that's been a big undertaking, a big strategic plan. So so what challenges, just from a from a global perspective, leading a global organization like Commission International, just talk to us about a couple of challenges that that you face there. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:27

There's uh lots of challenges, um, especially as a nonprofit. You know, obviously there's financial challenges. God's been uh very faithful in the midst of all that. But most importantly, I think the challenge is for us to stay hyper-focused on the mission, the the vision, mission strategy that God's given us as an organization. Because there's a lot of amazing organizations that have a different vision. But when you're in these countries like Honduras or Nepal, the needs are just astronomical. And it's easy to get distracted, you know, because you can justify just about anything. Uh, but it's just kind of like the diamond kind of shining off on the side that kind of pulls you away. Yeah. And so I think one of the challenges is for us to make sure we adhere to our vision, mission, strategy uh so we don't get distracted on doing good things. They're good gospel things, yeah, but it's not the great thing that God has called us to as an organization.

SPEAKER_04 20:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:27

I think that's one of the big challenges. Um, another challenge is just more from an organizational leadership standpoint is how do you take something like values and infuse it all the way through an organization where uh, you know, prior at the church, we had when I was serving on staff at a church, you know, we had 60 staff members, but we all came together. So we could easily infuse values through every layer because we're all in the same room, or at least once a month we get together. And uh and so one of the uh difficult components that we face is how do you do that when the only staff that we really are in the same room with is the smallest component, which is the home office staff. Yeah, right. But then to start to infuse our values and to making sure we stay aligned with vision through the organization, which is placed literally in five different countries. Yes. So that's a unique component that we face, uh, which lends itself to, you know, everything rises and falls, sure, on leadership, but also communication and you know, how to do that well, because missionaries are busy. Uh our field staff, some of the best in the world, I believe. They're they stay busy. When I wake up, B Note's going to sleep, right? So there's it's just it's different.

SPEAKER_03 21:44

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, well, you've done a masterful job these first three years at the helm of of kind of balancing all that, keeping us on track. Uh, you know, and I just love the uh I know it's we got the strategic plan, but I love the three kind of mantras. That we go f by is evangelize the lost, disciple the saved, and minister the needs of the poor. Yeah. I mean, if the gospel could be wrapped up in three items, that's what it is. That's it. Evangelize, disciple, minister for. Yeah. So just I love that. And that's been the mantra for Commission International for 50 years, right? Yeah. And so 50 years more.

SPEAKER_05 22:23

So Yeah, if it doesn't go through that filter, then we can have a pre-firm note. It's not for us. It's great for somebody else. Yeah, but not for us. Love that. Love that.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

Because any any great organization, company, sports team, it doesn't matter who you are. If you vision drift, drift from vision, that mission drift, I think they call it, you know, you can get way off track. So let's go. No, no, no, it's just easy to happen. Yes. You know, it really is. Absolutely. So uh so Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras are three of the countries with Commission International. And then you have Nepal on the literally the other side of the world. So uh so tell us about Nepal. So tell us about Matal, Nepal, Beto. For somebody that's listening here today that doesn't know where Nepal is, like I didn't know, but just tell us about the people and kind of the culture of Nepal.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

So Nepal is uh a beautiful country, I should say. It's a small, tiny country between China and India. And uh we are we have lots of Himalis, lots of uh uh mountains. So like normally people when they say Nepal, like they normally uh things come into their mind is Himalis, mountains and all that. But besides that, the people out there are very good, very friendly. And we have uh uh culturally we are very rich and we have uh lots of uh temples as well. And that's because Nepal is a Hindu kick kingdom, in Hindu country, and then uh uh lots of temples, lots of uh cultural things and all that. People are very good out there, people are very friendly out there, but it's still it's despite all these things, like we still have lots of challenges. Uh when we talk about the Christianity stops and all that. Because uh the government has a different eye view for the Christian people, the community has different eye view for for the Christian people, Christian people. We have to convince each and everybody, yeah, when we are in the communities, when we are in the field to work and all that. So despite all all of the natural beauties and all that, Nepal uh uh we still have lots of challenges like this, you know. Like so we still uh uh welcome everybody to Nepal and because we are in lots of need, uh spiritually as well as physical need as well. So we welcome everybody to Nepal and help our communities because we really need support and prayers from all over the world, you know?

SPEAKER_04 24:45

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

And no doubt Nepal is one of the poorest countries in the world. Uh the needs are just everywhere. Uh we've experienced that over the last 10 years, you've experienced it your entire life. Uh but uh just an incredibly beautiful place, incredibly beautiful people. That's just the people are beautiful, the the graciousness, the kindness. And uh so and all three of us about a year ago, right now, I had the opportunity to hike to base camp of Mount Ever. And so that's a well-known, obviously, part of Nepal. And so that was a wonderful experience for you guys. But we got to meet the Sherpa people. Sure. And so the Sherpa people group that helps people get up Mount Ever, that's what they're known for, but they do a lot more than that. But just just wonderful people. And so uh so some of the ministries that BMDMI has done there uh that we participated in is medical ministries, doing medical clinics, doing dental clinics. Uh last year on the way to Mount Everest, we did uh did some veterinary clinics on the Yaks as we were going up there. So a great, great experience, but uh just uh wonderful, wonderful people. And so it's a it's a joy to help them. It really is. And uh and I think we've been invited back, I believe, as we have here, so excited about that. Um so Timmy, let's talk about what's called the 1040 window. Yeah, I know we hear that term thrown around, but for for our listeners uh here today, who what is the 1040 window and why should we in sitting in the United States of America care about the 1040 window?

SPEAKER_05 26:10

Yeah. The 1040 window should be on every evangelical's not just mind from uh I got the knowledge, but it should be on our hearts because it's where the the vast majority of the unreached are. So kind of we'll start 30,000 foot view, kind of walk ourselves down, uh, hopefully pretty concisely. But, you know, like a place like the Joshua Project, which they study all the different ethnic groups, people groups, those type things, they would say that there's roughly 17,200 people groups. And that's just an ethnic group of people, different ethnicity, different culture, whatever. Um, of the 17,000 people groups, there's a little over 7,000 that are considered unreached people groups. And uh an unreached people group by definition is less than 2% evangelical. Okay, got it and so you would think of less than 2% evangelical Christian, most likely in the majority of these people groups, just for frame of reference, there's may or may not be a missionary, most likely not a church that they can walk to. They probably don't have the Bible translated in their native tongue. And statistically speaking, if you're born into an underage people group, you're gonna die without ever hearing the good news as a gossip. So born into an underage people group, you know, 99.9% chance that you'll die as an unbeliever. And so then people talk about the 1040 window, and that's looking at, you know, some some you know, a strip across the globe, if you would, based off of longitude-latitude lines. But within the uh 1040 window, if there are, let's just say easy numbers, 7,000 unreached people groups, of those 7,000, uh, about 5,800 are within the 1040 window. So the 1040 window is a strip across the globe that holds majority of the unreached people groups. And so when people talk about the 1040 window, they're really referring to uh the gospel void and lack of missionaries, lack of Bible, lack of believers, lack of churches, lack of Christian influence among the unreached people roots. So you still have a few, maybe like uh 1,500 unreached people groups that are outside the 1040 window. The vast majority are within them. Wow. And then there's one other category which is unreached, unengaged people groups. So they're unreached, but also completely unengaged. Uh and you could argue that Sherpa people group is one of the unengaged. Yeah. And um and so part of that is vast majority of the unengaged people groups as well are within that 10%. Wow, and that wow.

SPEAKER_03 29:03

And you know, we're throwing around a lot of numbers here, but I've heard the number five billion people or uh in that category is uh pretty close to to being accurate as far as the numbers go. Yeah. Uh so so why should a Christian in the United States of America, why should we care? You know, we got we got a lot of problems here in the United States. We got all of our own issues, so uh out of sight, out of mind, right? Yeah, so so why why should evangelical Christians in the United States of America care that five billion people on the other side of the world have never not only been gay, you've never heard the name Jesus before. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:40

So well, there's a simple answer, and I'll give you uh a little bit different answer too. The simple answer is if part of scripture applies, then all of scripture applies. You we don't cherry pick, right? And Acts 1.8 is you'll be my witnesses in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and to the ends of the earth. And obviously the Great Commission, some of these other uh things apply to it. So, you know, part of it is is it's not a either or, it's a both and. Uh for instance, you live here in Alexandria, but you're deeply connected to the local church here, but you're also leveraging time, resources, and uh influence for the sake of the gospel among the nations. And I think a lot of people believe is, well, if I'm I either have to live full-time in the States or live full time overseas, and just the way the society is advanced, it's it's it's not it's not that black and white anymore. We have the opportunity to be engaged in both. And one, it's uh not just strategic, but it's biblical. You know, he's called us to engage in all of them. And then it just depends on how you have your like the way you view scripture, but most evangelicals would agree from the moment that Jesus um ascended to the moment he returns is what's called the church age. And there's one mission among the church age, which is to get the gospel to the ends of the earth, because Jesus will return and there'll be people from every tongue tribe and language represented. And a proof of that's Revelation 5 and 7. People around from every tongue tribe and nation worshiping the Lord. Yeah. And so if we long for the second coming of Christ, the missions must be forefront. Absolutely. Because the when he will come when the gospel makes makes it to all parenthesous, right? Absolutely. And there's still a lot of work to be done.

SPEAKER_03 31:34

Absolutely. So you heard it, heard it from the man himself. Obedience, really, if you narrowed it down, is being obedient to what God's called us to do, right? Much simpler way to say that. So uh so let's talk about resources. So if it's if there's this huge need, there's five billion people, let's give or take them to you, that have not heard the name Jesus. And then the rest of the world has at least had the opportunity to hear Jesus. So surely all the church resources, mission funds from all these different mission organizations were from all the evangel evangelical churches are going all of the 1040 window, right? You would think what percentage of the church resources are going to 1041?

SPEAKER_05 32:13

The latest number I heard or read was about a dollar ninety cents per, like like 1.9% essentially, is going towards the 1041 debt.

SPEAKER_03 32:24

Of just the foreign mission money, correct.

SPEAKER_05 32:27

The money uh given to global missions, whether through a local church or given to nonprofit organizations, but uh the amount of money uh that is given towards global missions, uh, of that total amount, 1.9% is going towards uh the unreached people groups in the 1040 windows.

SPEAKER_03 32:48

So you have this huge population of people that need to be reached, but our resources aren't resources aren't going there. Yeah, yeah. Uh, you know, and and we've just found by traveling over there, you know, if you go to Honduras, and hey, Commissions International have been in Honduras for 50 years. Yeah. But you get on a plane to find to Honduras for a mission trip, and you're there with four or five different uh organizations, churches, all that, that are on your own flight to fly to Honduras or to Mexico or to Guatemala or all the places. Yeah. We get in Nepal, they're not beaten down the door to get to Nepal. That's right. Right. So it's a hard-to-reach place.

unknown 33:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

And hard to reach for a reason, like David Plata thinks said, Yeah, you know, because they're unreached. And so, uh, so just you know, it for me personally, just having been involved in the 1040 window the past 10 years. That breaks my heart. It breaks my heart that most of the mission dollars don't even go to that area of the world. Because honestly, it's difficult. It's difficult for a church to know how to get involved over there. Uh, it's dangerous in places. Yeah, can't just freely share your faith. Yeah, those sort of things. So, uh so that that that's a challenge, you know.

SPEAKER_05 33:55

So it is. And, you know, it might be too much of a a a visual, but you know, we're we're just on the heels of the Super Bowl, right? And statistically speaking, there's about 66,000 people that are gonna pass away today within an underreached people group that never had the opportunity to hear the gospel. And the reason I reference the Super Bowl is there's probably what, 70, 80,000 in the stands. So imagine that crowd daily, every single day, passing away with never having the opportunity to say yes to God, yes to Christ. And the only reason is they had a her.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

And the reason they had a her is we have a limp. Absolutely, absolutely. Gives me chills. And so I hope if you're listening on this today, yeah, um do something. You know, do something, do something for your local church, through your local church, something for that that tin board window. Yeah. And so we're talking statistics, but you know, Bino, you're on the front front lines there, right? I mean, you're right there in a country that has not been reached, less than less than five percent Christian, I think is the the current number, something.

SPEAKER_01 35:09

Uh that's what the recent census report says that below five percent are Christian in Nepal. But like uh when we see in the Christian records and all that, it's it's about five percent of people are Christian. The Nash report says around two percent or something like that. Yeah. But the truth is like it's around five percent.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

Yeah. And and there's an act of resistance against growing that number, right? So not only by our enemy, but by uh country incomes as well. So uh so so tell us what your views of the American church are. So we just talked about all this, and you don't you can't help you don't have to hold back, but just tell us what your views are kind of where the American church kind of plays a part in all this, good and bad.

SPEAKER_01 35:55

So So like uh it's been very different. I mean, children are very different from Nepal. We start with this small scratch, you know, like we start we have to start from a zero. So normally like it takes a long time for a church to grow. But like when I see American church like because this was started long before Nepali churches community started. Yeah. So I would say like even now, like we have to start from a very zero from the very beginning. But like uh I thank like the American churches and different other churches who have been supporting Nepal because uh you always needed some kind of prayer, you know, like because without any kind of prayer to support, like it's never possible to raise up and then like the churches here have been a very uh a great partner. I would say like a partner in Christ, you know, a brother e Christ has been a very f uh blessing, you know, like it's been a very great part for us to uh to let our churches in Nepal grow, you know, like and uh I really appreciate it for that.

SPEAKER_03 36:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so not nothing negative.

SPEAKER_01 37:01

Yeah, until now I would say, well, there's no negative things uh but like uh in Nepal uh context, you know, what we always think is think is like every white people are Christians, every Americans are Christians, you know, like when I when I come to US or like when I meet our uh American brothers and sisters, then we come to know like not all the white people are Christian. Yes, all the Americans are Christians, you know, like so that's uh thinging, you know what I mean? So that's a little different now. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:30

So well it's amazing to see the Christians in Nepal and just uh uh what they've gone through, what they've gone through to come to Christ, uh what they've gone, what they continue to go through to stay in a robot Christ. And uh that's uh a different challenge than here, all right?

SPEAKER_01 37:46

Right. And I would uh I would add a little bit on this, like uh to be a Nepal Christian, like we struggle a lot. And maybe that doesn't happen in the US.

SPEAKER_00 37:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:55

Uh for for you all like to be a Christian in the US might be a little easier. Because your father was a Christian, your grandfather was a Christian. Yeah. But in Nepal, like normally we we are the first generation Christian. So we struggle. Maybe my son would not struggle the way I struggle, you know. Like, yeah, so we still struggle but in different ways in Nepal, like especially like uh in in the mountains, in the rural communities, like the Christian, the pastors, their families, you know, like and all the Christian communities, they struggle a lot. They have uh the people out there, they treat them differently. Sometimes, like even they treat them as uh untouchable. In Nepal, like we have uh different caste systems, you know, like that, and then there are caste that is untouchable. You know, like so in some communities, like Christian people are treated untouchable. So they are pious, they are discriminated inabigated. So these are the struggles we still face in uh yes in in the j in the mountains of the hall. And like sometimes people are beaten, communities are beaten or killed, even sometimes. So we still face those challenges, uh, which I can see here in US. Maybe you have different kinds of challenges here, yeah, than Nepal.

SPEAKER_04 39:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:07

We have challenges of getting people out of their service in time for lunch and things like that. Uh yeah, we would go to church over in Nepal, you're there for three hours or four hours, and here uh if you go past 1145, boys uh but uh different environment. That's what I feel uh and not be I'm not beating up on the American church, but just saying, hey, there's there's people across the world that need to hear the gospel. And so in my opinion, the American church needs to step up our game. Yeah. And go. You can go, you can pray, you can send funds, those sort of things. But yeah, um, I personally believe that people need to go on a mission trip internationally because there's no way to come back and duplicate. Uh if you if you don't go, you can't smell and see the things and talk to the people and see the people. And so if you're able on this podcast, if you're able to go on an international mission trip, I'd encourage you to do that because that will change your life, it change your perspective.

SPEAKER_05 40:04

Yeah, I think it's probably uh you would you would expect me to say this, but uh I genuinely believe I think it's one of the greatest things you can do for your faith journey, for the sanctification process that we're in, is just to get on foreign soil and serve the Lord. Because your your biblical worldview, meaning like how you view your life, yeah, it completely changes. Yeah. Because you know, we we do somewhat live in a bubble. Yeah. And so the moment you can get outside the bubble and experience a unique people group, a unique culture, yeah, uh, the different struggles of life, man, like what God does in your heart in the midst of that changes how you live here. Absolutely. It's like a guy on our board, he says, My goal is to get this, what the pastor said. It's like my goal is to get as many of my church members overseas on Foreign Soul because when they come back, they're ten times better church members because God changed their life. Yes. And they see things differently. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 41:02

When I get that question asked a lot by people because we've been going over there so long, people say, Well, there's plenty to do here. Why why do y'all feel like y'all need to go overseas? Like, hey, just like you said earlier, there's both there's both ends. We you need to do things here. Yeah, but absolutely. As I've mentioned on this podcast before, right here in the small town Alexandria, we've got 150 churches in Alexandria, Louisiana. So hopefully some of those churches are stepping up and doing the things we need to do here, but people aren't beating down the door to go to Nepal and some of those unreached places. That's right. Uh so uh okay, so so to the personal. Okay, so you're both in ministry, you both are in ministry for for a living. Uh I call professional Christians. Uh, you're getting paid to be a Christian. Uh but uh so talk about just in your own life. You know, this is this podcast called Finish Wrong, which means that, you know, a lot of people, a lot of men especially that fall away from the faith. I mean, we uh hear story after story after story after of guys that start out strong and they don't finish. And so tell us just in your personal life, your personal spiritual walk, what kind of guardrails do you put up in your life to kind of keep you on track with God?

SPEAKER_01 42:09

So as a Christian, being a Christian, uh what I would say is like the word of God, the Bible, and the prayer would be the most important thing, you know, like that would always guide you, that would always show you the track that one one has to follow, every Christian has to follow. And I would take the same thing, prayer and then uh read the Bible because we can hide uh from everybody. But like there's nothing hidden from God, you know, like there's nothing we can hide from God. So like my thing would be prayer and reading the Bible and like dedicating our life to God, you know, like and just following whatever He says you to do, you know, like following His directions.

SPEAKER_03 42:54

Yes, yes, well, and uh I think out of our this is our ninth episode, I think every single episode that question has been answered like that is it's your personal time with the Lord. You cannot you can't replace your own personal time in prayer and Bible study and yeah, meditating on God's word. I mean, that's a huge guardrail. So so Timmy, you can use that one or you can use another.

SPEAKER_05 43:16

No, I'll I'll definitely echo that one. Yeah. Uh, because I think in our culture, we're always looking for a hack, you know, like the quick fix. Yeah. Uh so anything supplemental to that is kind of maybe helpful, but not not it's not f complete apart from the prayer and scripture. I would say the other one, which is hard for men, is the accountability component. And when I say comp compati uh uh accountability, I mean someone that you can be transparent with to where you you really are fully known. Like you you you don't have secrets to where you could sit in a setting like this, maybe without the technology, but just having coffee and to be able to. Like, hey, I'm struggling with this.

SPEAKER_04 44:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:02

Because the most liberate I believe the most literating thing is to be fully known and fully loved. Isn't that the gospel? Yes. Yes. Absolutely. He knows everything about us. Yeah. But still pursues us in our mess. And so to have a guy, and you can probably only have one or two, right? Yeah. But someone that's a safe place for you to be able to share what's going on, because then you it's in the light. It's out in the shadows. It's in the light. Yeah. And the thing that you're struggling with usually can get squashed. Like the enemy can't continue to use it very much because it's in the light. It's got accountability. And so that would be, in my opinion, uh, and what I've seen personally in my life is the top three. It's obviously prayer, obviously scripture. But you know, get away with all the other quick fixes.

SPEAKER_04 44:52

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 44:53

But find someone, and I believe it takes a man, it takes a leer to approach somebody and say, hey, I want us to have some really awkward conversations, but my soul needs there. Yes, absolutely. If you can get there, then I think you can fight well. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 45:09

But you can't fight well in the shadows. You nailed it. You nailed it. I mean, absolutely. And uh I talk about this often. There's a uh uh someone who's tried to uh he was a chairman of the Absolute Theological Seminary at Dallas, Dallas Theological Seminary, and he did a study of a hundred pastors that had fallen away from the faith. Yeah, and just asked them kind of what are your top things that you think was attributable to that. And the number one thing was I lost my personal own time with God. Yeah. And like either number two or number three is I had no personal accountability with another person. Yeah, and so that that absolutely nails it. So I've got to have those guys in my life. You guys professional ministry have to have uh those guys in your life. Um I know that I tell my guys, I'm like, there's nothing you can't ask me. There's nothing, there's no territory in my life that's off limits to you. And say it. One of those who y'all know well is Dr. David Gio. He's one of my one of my top three guys that I scare personally accountable to and uh tell him all the time, I'm like, if I ever do anything that's not honoring to my wife, uh you have permission to physically knock me out. If you know David, he's bigger than I am, so that you have permission to physically knock me out. Yeah. But just give that permission to another guy that you ought to have you know, that you you have those guys around you. So yeah. Um great.

SPEAKER_05 46:27

Yeah, it's easy to build a circle of yes men and you know, but you know, someone that's pursuing Jesus wholeheartedly that it would be willing to speak up when they see things that are not quite right. Yeah. Or out of balance or out of character. Yes. And we need it.

SPEAKER_03 46:45

And how many guys who have fallen away if they had that in their life? Right. Uh had that kind of accountability, had that kind of structure of their life. That's right. Um, so great great stuff. Okay, so we'll have some fun now. So we'll do a little lightning round here. A little lightning round, a couple of questions. So so two or three people. They can be alive or they can be dead. Uh who you'd like to have dinner with? If you could choose two or three people that you'd have to like to have dinner with, but how about you, man?

SPEAKER_01 47:13

Maybe I would choose my dad. He passed away some ten, twelve years back, and I would choose him and my mom and my family. Maybe we all come together for dinner.

SPEAKER_03 47:22

Yes. Yes, that's a great, great answer.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

And maybe we can talk about God altogether, you know. You know, yeah, I see that dinner table. That's what I expect, you know. I I wish if I could do that, you know.

SPEAKER_04 47:32

Yes, yes, that's why I'll put it for that's good.

SPEAKER_05 47:36

How about you, Jeremy? Um, so I'll do uh an older fella passed away many, many forever ago. Uh Martin Luther just lived with such a bold core conviction for the Reformation, you know, and he was front running and had all the threats in the world against him going against a massive tradition, but yet the conviction that he had uh to bring about the Reformation, you know, like how did he do that? How did he stay strong? How did he not cave to the pressure? Yes. Oh yeah. Just just to get underneath what we know of is the Reformation, but to get up underneath that to hear his heart. Like, I need more of that in my life. You know what I mean? Wow, what a great. Yeah, that's a great and then uh I would say a guy that I've watched from from afar for a long time is Louis Giglio. Yeah. And I just I I love people that dream big because you can't outdream God. And he pioneered the way for college students, you know, with the Passion Com priestess, those type things, and and so many testimonies of people I know and then in ministry now where they're like, Yeah, my life was transformed at yeah, passion, you know, 1992. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yes. And I remember first time I went just in a crowd of that many folks, just thinking this gotta be a small glimpse of heaven. You know, that means worshiping. Yeah. But I've always admired from a distance. I've never had proximity to him, yeah, but just his humility and bold like passion to to to be like hyper-focused on that one thing.

SPEAKER_03 49:21

Great, yeah. Great answer. Great answer. He's had a big influence on my life too. Our our girls all went to the passion conferences. Dana and I snuck in the passion conferences as as parents for uh several years in a row. And uh and now my daughter lives in Atlanta and goes to his church. And so that's a really neat kind of full circle there, but just uh go through a lot of his books here at the quest. Yeah. Uh tacos.

SPEAKER_05 49:43

That's good.

SPEAKER_03 49:43

He's a wonderful guy. So anybody else?

SPEAKER_05 49:45

Yeah, last one and kind of a curveball is I would like my my little girl, love her to death. She's almost four, turning four in a few weeks. I would like to fast forward until she's eighteen and have a conversation with her at 18.

SPEAKER_00 49:59

Hmm.

SPEAKER_05 49:59

You know, I know. And dangerous. I know that. But you know, just to talk to her as a mature, starting to grow up to be a mature young lady at 18, and then she could like somehow retain all of that conversation and go back to being four. Yeah. So take it, apply through life. Yeah, that's love that. But we can't get ahead of things.

SPEAKER_03 50:19

So you gotta prepare a report, right? Absolutely. Hey, with three daughters of my own, I could tell you be careful what you wish for, because that eighteen is gonna be here before you know it. You're gonna be walking her down the aisle uh fairly soon. So, yeah, uh, those are great. Those are great. Okay, so talk about movies, music. So, what's your favorite movie and what your favorite music? So, you know, what can what kind of music do you like?

SPEAKER_01 50:43

So I I listen to every kind of music. Yes. And uh but I would rather you be interested in listening to Nepal hymns and Hindi hymns. Oh yeah, because and uh more than Nepal hymn, I would say like I I like listening to Hindi hits because uh the words they use in the hymns are very heart-reth. Very wonderful words they're not used in Hindi hymns.

SPEAKER_03 51:04

So it's the traditional hymns.

SPEAKER_01 51:07

No, these they every hymns they use very beautiful word, okay, very powerful word. So yeah, I love listening to Hindi hymns. And there are there are many Nepal singers coming back in Christian community these days, so they sing very well.

SPEAKER_04 51:20

Uh oh yeah, yeah, some of those translated. Absolutely. Sounds like they're original, yes. That's great, that's great.

SPEAKER_03 51:27

Watch any movies over there that we would know.

SPEAKER_01 51:31

I I just don't have any specific movies, but I like watching uh science fiction movies stuff.

SPEAKER_05 51:40

What about you, Timmy? What do you listen to? Well so watch. Um I like action. So it's not necessarily a movie, but it's a series. You might have to take this off your pie desk, but uh it is like the born general feet, born supremacy. You know, I'm at you know, those are really good, right? Great. Uh I'm kind of boring on the music front. I would I I try to stick to the Christian, just whatever, just at play. Yeah. And part of it is because it's part of a guardrail. Yeah. Because I had, you know, 19 years of not pursuing that. Yes, yeah. That's sometimes like country music, other lyrics, whatever. Yeah, it's not gonna bring up good thoughts. Exactly. Does that make sense? It makes me relive my BC days before Christ's days. Exactly. And uh so I just try to guard my mind and heart on that. So I'm kind of like the you know, the the Scrooge, I guess. I it's just yeah. Hey, we're the same person, too. I try to listen to a podcast, so I'll be listening to the air. So if it's not a podcast, it'll be probably just be Christian.

SPEAKER_03 52:41

Yeah, I see. I'll listen to worship music 99.9% of the time, and when I don't, and I'll listen to some 80s music, it brings me back to the days before I was really committed power, you know. And so it's I don't want it for you, like those memories, absolutely. God's redeemed me, frightened, so why dwell on it? Absolutely. Absolutely. Uh okay, so to kind of close us out here, you know, guys are listening on this podcast. Some guys are going through tough times right now, and they're beating themselves up about maybe past mistakes. Some guys are in a really good place. Uh, some guys don't even know where they are spiritually right now. They just hit play on this to hear about international missions, maybe. Uh, so what would you say to the guy is the secret to finishing strong? If they want to finish strong in the faith and they want to finish the race, what would you say the secret is to them to finishing strong? You guys are well on your way to doing that.

SPEAKER_01 53:36

What I would say is like uh focus on God. That's the most important thing because He's only the person who can guide you to the end. Because we might be diverted, we might be distracted in different ways, you know. But like if you trust him, if you have if you give if you fully trust on him, if you have if you are a faithful servant, and trust him, just follow him, get focused, you know, like and follow the directions that he's given to you and do all the things that he's called for. I would say that thing, you know, like be a faithful servant and follow the direction that he's on you. And that would eventually lead to the end where God always wanted us to be there.

SPEAKER_04 54:18

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 54:18

Love that. Faithful servants, obedient. Uh that that'll preach, you know. It's uh Yeah. So Timmy, what advice would you give that guy out there?

SPEAKER_05 54:28

Yeah, I would say, um, because I I dealt with it as a new believer, part of like I feeling unworthy, you know, to to even date a Christian girl, much less someone that God blessed me with, like Nicole. And so the thing I I struggled with was actually like forgiving myself. Like I believed the gospel, and I believe most folks maybe listening to the podcast believe the truth of the gospel, uh, but have a hard time forgiving themselves or believe, man, if I step into this, I kind of feel like a fraud. And um, and it's hard just in a statement to figure out how to move someone past that. But at the end of the day, we have to believe that if God's forgiven us, we can forgive ourselves. Yeah. Because what the there is a void in the world of Christian men leaders. Yeah. And people are looking for us to step into that gap, right? And then what I'd say is is forgive yourself, the easy kind of statement that's hard to practice. The second thing would be, you know, in um Proverbs 19, maybe it says, where there's no vision, people perish. And have a vision for your life, have a vision for your family that is gospel centered. And let everything else kind of fade away. If you don't know what the target is, you chase everything. So like uh the way me, my wife and I, our family, we view it is we it's align, leverage, enjoy. Those are the three things. And so every year we look at all facets of the the family and we try to align them towards what God's called us to do. And once it's aligned, then we leverage, you know, our time, calendar, resources, money, yes, gifting, whatever, and then we just enjoy the gifts of life. But I think it's easy if we don't have a vision, we just want to sit back and enjoy. And just kind of float, and then we wake up and we're like, man, we've missed it.

SPEAKER_04 56:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:24

Or we just want to go all in a million different places and you're not very affected. So I just want to leverage everywhere. Yeah. And you're, you know, I guess in your world road or leverage. Yes. Chris, I guess. Uh so I think it starts with the vision and then align it, leverage it, and enjoy it.

unknown 56:41

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 56:41

And you know, you mentioned it earlier, even in the family mission drift. We're if we're drifting to our vision and mission as a family, we can easily drift away. That's it. And as men, we stay accountable to that mission, that vision. Yeah. Absolutely love it.

SPEAKER_05 56:54

And just stay active. Like, um, you know, I one time I taught through Acts chapter one, and one of the things that stuck out to me was that the Holy Spirit was giving us power, was given so that we'd have power to be a witness. So one of the primary purposes of the Holy Spirit is to be a witness. And so it's just this idea, like, man, when the the mission of God is attractive, sin's boring. But when the mission of God is boring, sin's attractive. Because you're bored. You're not doing what God's designed you to do, you know? Yeah. Uh so I guess practically in local church context is well, find a place to serve, have men around you that can speak into your life, right?

SPEAKER_03 57:35

And for your family, uh they're they're looking for the leader that God's designed you to be. Absolutely. Mic drop moment right there. We could drop these mics right here. That's a mic drop moment, no doubt. Uh so Timmy, how if somebody's out there, they maybe they haven't heard of Commission International, how would they get connected with Commission International? You know, there's ways that people can give, and this is not a this is not a money grab, guys, but but just you know, as little as like $25 a month. I mean, people can give to Commission International. Most of that money goes to the mission. It's not, yeah, most of it's not administrative, like a lot of organizations, it's going straight to the field. Right. And so how do people get involved and connected with you guys?

SPEAKER_05 58:14

Yeah. Easiest way is the website, which is commissionedintl.org. And um you go to the website and you can read, see everything that we do. Um, and you know, whether if it's hopping on a team, there's lots of teams or uh getting somehow your church connected. Uh, but at the end of the day, it's it's it's prayer, it's giving, it's going. And one thing that I'm proud of, you as a board member are proud of that, you know, we operate less than 12% administrative overhead. So, you know, vast majority of every dollar is going to reach and serve people. And um, and the thing that I think, not to make it a sales pitch, but like that sets us apart in some ways is we're a tangible organization. You're not given to just some program, but you can give, just like, you know, you can give, and then all of a sudden you can go and you can touch, see, and feel and witness what you're given to. Yeah. Like you can be a part of it from all angles, and it's not a giving out of sight out of mind, or it's not a going, and there's no long term, but everything we do is is interconnected. Like teams are connected to the ministries, churches, missionaries, whatever. And then when you give, well, you can hack up and go and see how the money's being used. Like transparency on all angles. So love that. Love that.

SPEAKER_03 59:39

Wow. Well, you can hear and see why Commission International is absolutely thriving. Uh, so get involved, get connected, get connected with your church, uh, and go. Go. That's probably one of the best things like we've been talking about. You could do is go experience it, come home. You and the people you go with are fired up for the gospel. So uh so Timmy and Bino, thank you for joining us today. And uh Safe Tribals home. So thank you so much for being here today. It's been a blessing. So in 2 Timothy 4 7, the Apostle Paul's in prison facing his impending death, and he says these words, the final reflection on his life and his ministry. I've fought the good fight, I've finished the race, and I've remained faithful. So, needless to say, Paul's life didn't start out strong. Persecuting Christians, killing Christians isn't exactly the blueprint of what God has for a man's life. But God had other plans. He said, I want that man. So Paul switched jerseys and made it. It's his life mission, spread the gospel, no matter what the circumstances. He made the decision that he would never give up, he would never back down, and he made the decision that he would finish strong. So, as you just heard from Timmy and Binode, life is not easy. But if you're a follower of Jesus Christ, God has said the same thing about you, man. I want that man. So, how will you respond to that? So, the purpose of this podcast is not to give you some other to-do list or to heat guilt or shame on you from maybe where you started or where you've been. The purpose of this podcast is to inspire you to action by hearing how godly men like Timmy and Beanode don't just make lofty goals, they make commitments. Commitments are greater than goals. To finish strong is a daily decision that requires a daily commitment. It's not how you start, it's how you finish.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:37

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