PERRY TURNBULL | Ice Guardians Ep 23

Brett Hull and guest host Tony Twist watched the Blues take on the Kraken with former Blues forward Perry Turnbull. Percy tells the guys about having to line up against a young Kelly Chase in his last NHL training camp, Hully talks about being in the stands as a teenager watching Percy play for the Portland Winterhawks. Percy talks about getting hurt at the end of the season right before he was drafted by the Blues and he tells the guys about the friendly competition between him and Brian Sutter at the end of the 1980-81 season which leads Hully to talk about playing for Brian.

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SPEAKER_05 0:28

Ladies and gentlemen, we are back with another episode of Ice Guardians. I have good news and I have bad news. My usual partner, Kelly Chase, is laid up again. But I have brought in, just like Johnny Carson always did, a guest host, Mr. Tony Twist. Wow, a guest host. Yeah. Yeah, don't get used to it. You're gonna be here for a few episodes. No, no, I just like that. That's a I don't want that. I appreciate it. And who is our special guest, Mr. Perry Turnbull? Per se in the house. We are here at the Window World Studio, brought to you by Siteman's hair cancer center. Where does hair go? Oh, there it is. St. Louis Blues taking on the Seattle Kraken. That's a brutal name. Kraken? Could we not think of something better? Probably could have. The Seattle left wingers. It just, I mean, there's a lot of water. I mean, what is what is Seattle known for now? I mean, well, Kraken and being a left winger. Oh my lord, yes. Explain left winger. The left prisoners out of prison, oh yeah. Seattle parolees. Anyway, let's let's talk to uh Perry, Tony. Uh long time alumni, just like so many. You were we were talking earlier about there's 50-ish, 52.

SPEAKER_06 2:12

Yeah, something like that.

SPEAKER_05 2:13

And you have been here in St.

SPEAKER_06 2:15

Louis for I came here in 1979, never left.

SPEAKER_05 2:21

That says a lot about the city, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_06 2:23

It it does, it really is. I mean, as far as we should applaud the city for being able to keep all of us.

SPEAKER_05 2:30

Absolutely. Well, they made it easy, and you're still alive. Yeah, we're day to day. Did you see the picture? Did he show you the picture of what he had implanted in his ankle? I did. That was that not awesome. Why did you get a penis implanted in your ankle?

SPEAKER_06 2:47

Well, actually, I think it looked more like a butt plug, Tony. I don't know if you remember that.

SPEAKER_05 2:50

Well, I don't know what those look like, but I'll take your word for it. I tell you what, though, that was kind of a you showed me that x-ray, and I'm like, okay, I'm waiting for the black guy sitting on the edge of the bed to come out. Never did. I'm like, what the hell? Well, I we should get a shot of that to show later.

SPEAKER_06 3:07

Well, you guys all call me an ankle bender when I played, so that was we got them for a while.

SPEAKER_05 3:12

Well, amongst other things.

SPEAKER_06 3:13

We got yes, that's true.

SPEAKER_05 3:15

So talk to us about uh growing up in the middle of nowhere, Canada, and how you became a you know a second round overall pick to the St. Louis Blues so many years later.

SPEAKER_06 3:34

Well, I I um grew up in a little town Bentley, Alberta. We had a population of 900. That's incredible. So I knew most everybody. Everybody had their daughters.

SPEAKER_05 3:51

You're not a first cousin, are you? They had to be all related somehow.

SPEAKER_06 3:56

Well, there's uh there was a lot of that. We weren't no one called us the hunters. That's all shared dogs.

SPEAKER_05 4:02

We weren't Hutterites, but we were close. You weren't perusing the local colleges to expand the DNA culture. Okay, keep going.

SPEAKER_06 4:12

So anyway, um, I was really fortunate there that uh one of my cousins ran the ice rink, ran the ice rank, and so we'd get we'd have we'd get the only rank, and we get the key to go in there before and middle of the day after whatever it was. And I also got it up or we got in school, um, we got to go down and do phys ed first class in the morning. Yeah, we just went down there and played Shiny, and then this the um Monday, Wednesday, uh, Friday was physed option the first hour after uh lunch. So we got now we got two hours so smart. I got two hours oh 100% there.

SPEAKER_05 5:03

Oh, you no one no one can cover grade nine and after shitty class, we had skin the deer class, right?

SPEAKER_06 5:10

There's some truth in that.

SPEAKER_05 5:12

Grade nine is the ours three years of your life. Hold on. Okay, you had the one indoor ink and then how many outdoor inks?

SPEAKER_06 5:17

You know, or is that just backyards? We did it, we did it because we didn't we didn't have enough people, so we could all, you know, and for me, fortunately, I was a taller kid and skated okay. So I got to play on my age group and the next two age groups up. So I was I never practiced. We know there's and I wasn't good at it for sure.

SPEAKER_05 5:42

Me either. I hated practice. We always thought that because the way you skated, you were so down and you you kept yourself low to the ground. I thought you had a really uh low ceiling where you guys played.

SPEAKER_06 5:58

You know what? I wish I could pull it up right now. You can I have it on Live Barn and the ceiling Live Barn. What is it?

SPEAKER_05 6:06

Live barn is in that is that is not allowed in Texas on is that like some kind of live barn.

SPEAKER_06 6:13

Live barn. Live barn's a uh company that goes around and has they have cameras in every ring. Oh they have pictures of everybody. So grandma and grandpa can say that they watch the kid play. Sure. So you do a subscription and you get live barn. So they have one in Bentley, and I actually have it, and uh the ceiling's very low.

SPEAKER_05 6:34

Yeah, kind of like remember our practice rink at Brentwood down the road, yeah. Yeah, it wasn't that low, was it? Oh, it was low. Well, there was a lot of defense the puck like him, it is slow. A lot of flipper outers would stop the play. Well, I never dumped there, good lord. Right. Well, I think I think that's where Tony and you and Chaser, that's still where we were having training camp. Oh, when I first didn't know. That was our first training, me and Chaser's first training camp. Right? That was and you, I believe you fought Chaser the very first exhibition war. And I am so well, I am so tired. Actually, it's actually fun when we get together at our alumni events, and the first thing is Percy and Chase are going. I can't remember when I beat you up. You beat me up, I beat you up. No, I beat you up. I'm like okay, it was a tie. But hold on, so keep going. We haven't even got still up in Bentley.

SPEAKER_06 7:37

Yeah, well, coming from Bentley to get an opportunity to meet Kelly Chase on the ice. He was he was a young kid, and I was an old man. And I it was my last training camp, by the way. So Chaser and I line up against each other on the scrimmage. He fucking scores a goal. So I come back to the You talk about wanting something on film. So we come back to the face-off dot, and I said, Kid, you're embarrassing me. Don't do it again. He scores later in the ship. And I said, Well, I said my piece, so I drop my gloves, and all of a sudden there's a piece of velcro on me, and I cannot get them off. He hung on and stuff, and I'm working and trying to get. Well, the little shit reaches up and pokes me and cuts me under the ice. Now I'm going off the ice bleeding, and Brian Sutter's standing in the bench, the coach, laughing. Oh, did I want to Tony twist him? Anyway, long story short, I had a little chat with him and I said, hey, listen, when I get this fixed up, we're gonna come back. We're gonna come back and we're gonna fight till one of us is dead.

SPEAKER_05 9:06

Anyway, that was and at that point you were probably in better shape than Chaser. Oh well. You were in pretty damn good shape. I confess that. I tried to tell him that earlier. I go, come on. You were in pretty damn good shape.

SPEAKER_06 9:18

By that at that point, I mean, I was still okay.

SPEAKER_05 9:22

But you're such a great skater. It was like, okay, so you really jumped ahead. Talk about playing like in the paw. Like, can you explain the paw to people that don't know what the paw is?

SPEAKER_06 9:35

Well, I left I left home at 15 years old to play junior hockey in the Alberta Junior League. And uh I was in Crows Nest Pass, Alberta. And it was about five hours from my hometown. So I went down there and I played not a lot. I got to watch a lot of hockey from the bench.

SPEAKER_05 9:56

Well at 15, I would imagine. Yeah, and uh at 15 I was still trying to push myself away from the house. Is that city still around?

SPEAKER_06 10:04

That yeah, that town's still there. Yeah, it was a coal mining town, and it was uh actually an interesting place to play.

SPEAKER_05 10:13

Did you meet any coal miners' daughters?

SPEAKER_06 10:15

No, I did not. That's pretty good. I was really really serious about the game.

SPEAKER_05 10:21

At 15 at 15 years old. You were just trying to survive.

SPEAKER_06 10:30

But it was uh it was a great start, right?

SPEAKER_05 10:33

Right, and then the next year I go back to because you were still a big kid at 15 years old.

SPEAKER_06 10:38

Yep, yeah, I was otherwise you wouldn't have been there. When I left home, I was uh six foot one and I weighed 185 pounds. At 15?

SPEAKER_05 10:47

Yeah, holy shooting.

SPEAKER_06 10:49

Yeah, we got steroids way back then.

SPEAKER_05 10:51

Yeah, it came in the form of cows. How are you kidding?

SPEAKER_06 10:55

Yeah, I was 185 when I left home.

SPEAKER_05 10:58

You're the same size in your last year, pro.

SPEAKER_06 11:01

A little bit heavier. Yeah, but I didn't know about beer at 15. Oh, come on. Maybe I'm gonna go back to the body.

SPEAKER_05 11:07

Just Ron, who are you kidding? Just Rye. I just knew about Rye. Rye. I mean, all those elderly folks back home just made you go to bed before they cracked open the CC.

SPEAKER_06 11:18

Well, yeah, they did do that for sure. Six one. But there was uh a hockey rink in my town and a bar. Two bars and three liquor stores. 900 people. What do you think we did?

SPEAKER_05 11:36

Skated drunk, obviously. Did you walk to each one of them?

SPEAKER_06 11:40

Yeah, well, the town's probably one street, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:46

Okay. So then you you go from there Crows Nest and you go to Calgary.

SPEAKER_06 11:54

Well, I I played there, I played and I played there Crows Nest Pass. I went back the next year for I think 40 games, and I had done that. Guy's name, guys. Guy's name was Freddie Schultz, and he he says to me, pulled me aside, and he goes, Kid, you're the only one going anywhere out of this team. And he goes that's pretty complicated, though. He says, Here's our new breakout. The defensemen are gonna set up behind the net. You go around the back and get it, take it as far as you can. Pass it if you want, just take it. So I got an opportunity to play. It was one of my favorite.

SPEAKER_05 12:30

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_06 12:31

So anyway, I got a chance to play and uh and uh got some points, and then all of a sudden Calgary called me up.

SPEAKER_05 12:39

At what age? I was 16.

SPEAKER_06 12:41

16, yeah. And back in the Western hockey 15 plus one, Tony.

SPEAKER_05 12:45

No, I didn't know I don't exactly play. That's so you were you played one year in Crows, two. Well, I played well you barely played the first year. Okay, so my guess you started 15 and 16, that's two years, one and a half.

SPEAKER_06 12:58

So well, I was halfway through 16 and I got called up.

SPEAKER_05 13:01

All right.

SPEAKER_06 13:02

So then I went up and played in uh the big city of Calgary. Calgary, yeah. You must have been in WCHL.

SPEAKER_04 13:09

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 13:11

Yeah, I was uh wasn't old enough to drive. I didn't have a car.

SPEAKER_05 13:16

You must have one of the biggest at 6'1 above 80. You must have been one of the biggest guys out there back then.

SPEAKER_06 13:22

No, uh there was plenty of big guys.

SPEAKER_05 13:24

Okay, what year?

SPEAKER_06 13:27

That would have been uh 76.

SPEAKER_05 13:32

Yeah, so there was guys like Clark Gillies in the NHL. Oh yeah. So guys were getting like back before that, my dad was playing. He was one of the bigger guys at 5'10. Yeah. So they started getting bigger right after that. Well, Clark Gillies is not a big guy.

SPEAKER_06 13:48

Well, I mean, when I I go back and look at the National Hockey League, I was one of the bigger guys. I was the biggest guy on the team for the blues. I weighed almost the most. And I think what did you weigh in it? I was two they had two five on the thing, but I was probably two nine. Really? Two nine, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:07

And you're one of the biggest guys.

SPEAKER_06 14:08

I was at that time I was one of the biggest guys.

SPEAKER_05 14:10

Now, ten years later, when you came, yeah, I was in the middle of the pack, you know, but still tall enough at 6'2. Like I thought I was fairly big when I came into league. Like, well, yeah, stocky size-wise, but not. I mean, you're the same heights laying down as you were standing at the truth.

SPEAKER_06 14:29

Okay, so from Calgary, we go to one of the greatest junior franchises ever. I got traded for five guys to Portland, Oregon. Oh we go. And out of those guys were all Edmonton Oil Kings that didn't want to play in Portland. They were homesick. So Doug LeCure was one. David Morrow.

SPEAKER_05 14:54

Come on, Bill DeRlego?

SPEAKER_06 14:56

No, no, no. No, no. Uh Douglasure. Right. No one I thought Bill DeLego played for. In juniors.

SPEAKER_05 15:08

And you got traded for four other guys and a 50 goal score.

SPEAKER_06 15:11

Yeah, and so it was I really guess I was decent back then.

SPEAKER_05 15:19

Hold on. Was Doug Harley a 50 goal scorer when they came?

SPEAKER_06 15:22

Yes, he was, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:23

Stop it. What do you mean you guessed? That's a good thing.

SPEAKER_06 15:25

And then Dave Morrow was a first team All-Star defenseman. But they didn't want to be there.

SPEAKER_05 15:31

So I was what kind of like right now, no one wants to be in Portland. Right. Well, they only have left wingers on their team.

SPEAKER_06 15:45

Oh, I gotta go there in two weeks, I'm gonna let that go.

SPEAKER_05 15:48

Right. And I told him I so I played golf uh the other day with Brendan. You gotta tell everybody what a left winger is. Well, we all know what a left winger is, is a liberal. Okay, right? Why? And so Brendan Morrow is uh one he won a Memorial Cup with the Portland Winter Hawks. I don't know how many years after you did, but uh he got the same call as you to go back for the what like what kind of a celebration is it?

SPEAKER_06 16:16

Like it's 50 greatest players of the 50 years.

SPEAKER_05 16:21

Right. And uh I don't know if he's going or not, but it's not high on his priority list because I think we have a golf tournament that's uh do a bit of a big thing. But you were unbelievable in Portland and became second overall pick.

SPEAKER_06 16:36

Yeah, I had a pretty good career now. Did you guys win the Memorial Cup? No, we didn't. We actually uh we lost to Brandon in the in the finals.

SPEAKER_05 16:44

The Wheat Kings?

SPEAKER_06 16:45

The Wheat Kings, which was Builder Lego. Builder Lego.

SPEAKER_05 16:49

Yeah, there you go. I knew Builder Lego. Actually, Brian Prop. No, East French Long.

SPEAKER_06 16:53

Yep, Brian Prop.

SPEAKER_05 16:54

Brian Prop. Brian Prop. He was in he wasn't there, he was in Food Flawn, though.

SPEAKER_06 16:58

Ray Ellison the redhead. He was uh they had a bunch of guys, they were they were good. They were good, and they actually took our goalie Bart Hunter while Bill Hunter's kid.

SPEAKER_05 17:13

Okay, and remember we were talking earlier and I said I have a story, and so you are six years or five years older than me. You're 59, I'm 64. Right. But depending on where the month is, March. So I am I am a 15-year-old, 16 or I don't know. But for some reason, I go to a New Westminster Bruin. I'm living in Vancouver, and I go to a New Westminster Bruin's Portland Winterhawks game. And it uh it obviously was hyped because why you know I could be out, you know, doing things I shouldn't be doing at 15 or 16, but uh, we went to this hockey game, and how I ever played hockey after that is beyond me. Because we all know and we all watched me play my whole career. There there wasn't an ounce of toughness in me, other than to be able to take punishment. But when Perry Turble and Hunter, I think, still was the goalie, and it was Smeal, Stan Smeal, Boris Fistrick, Bubba Beck. What? Oh, dude. Like I this was if you thought this makes Slapshot look like figure skating.

SPEAKER_06 18:52

It was it was a tough place to play.

SPEAKER_05 18:55

I don't know who the who else was on your team that was tough.

SPEAKER_06 18:58

We had uh we had a lot of tough guys.

SPEAKER_05 19:00

We didn't Larry Playfair was our uh Dave Hoyda and Larry Playfair, and I mean Dave was a tough guy for Philly Flyers, and yeah, yeah, he was like, and I remember I'm watching this game, and right in front of me, Boris Fistrick forearms this guy's head face first into the glass, and it was like roadkill. The nose splattered, blood all over the glass, and I am sitting there going, I couldn't, I can't, I couldn't do this. Like someone's gonna kill me out there. I'm like, and you're playing hockey, and you're gonna be right. And there's so benches clear, someone throws a garbage can at you. Remember this game? I didn't know and and then Hunter, the goalie, comes out and he grabs his goalie stick and turns it upside down and starts pretending he's blind because Punch Imlak only had one eye, the coach of New West.

SPEAKER_06 20:05

Yeah, I mean it was that's actually on YouTube. Bart was at my house three weeks ago, and he showed it to me.

SPEAKER_05 20:16

I mean, it you have to like what would your YouTube Bart Hunter blind guy?

SPEAKER_06 20:22

Yeah, Portland. Something like that. Something like that.

SPEAKER_05 20:25

It was uh you would have been you guys.

SPEAKER_06 20:28

John Paul Kelly, do you remember him? Yes. So John Paul Kelly had wore a face mask, full cage, because he had supposedly had some eye problem or whatever, and I'm sure he did. Anyway, he lost his cage in that thing, and and Hunter puts it on, and he's going around. I mean, it was Twister. You got there was nothing politically correct back then.

SPEAKER_05 20:54

You and the Clarks and Killer Kaminsky and Chaser, and you guys would have been in heaven.

SPEAKER_06 21:02

It was something.

SPEAKER_05 21:02

Oh, that was that was tier one junior. I mean, that was going on in tier two where I played, but I mean there was nothing that was. Dude, these were two of the best teams in the in the whole of Canada. That's a great guy's attitude already.

SPEAKER_06 21:18

He was probably uh he's my age, so he would have been uh 17 or 18.

SPEAKER_05 21:25

Like, I can't believe I I ended up playing hockey because I was scarred. I'm still scarred thinking about it. I'm like, like and you remember that game vividly. Absolutely. It's the only major Jew. Well, that's not true. My dad would, when I was much younger in Winnipeg, my dad would take me to the Winnipeg arena and we'd watch the Winnipeg Clubs with Kevin McCarthy as their captain. And you and I didn't know it. Who else was on that team?

SPEAKER_06 21:54

Neil Kumada.

SPEAKER_05 21:55

Neil Commodus?

SPEAKER_06 21:56

Well, Neil was before.

SPEAKER_05 21:58

And they to me they were the best uniforms. Ever the Winnipeg Clubs. They were good. And I used to watch my dad and the guys drink club beer.

SPEAKER_06 22:05

Remember Club Beer? I do.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

That's great.

SPEAKER_06 22:09

I do. Funny thing is, um, when I went to Winnipeg, talking about your dad, I rented a house my first year on Tuxedo Avenue. What you see. Your dad's house was like three doors down. Huh? What year? Uh 86. 86. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:27

Yeah, that's uh and that's unreal great neighborhood.

SPEAKER_06 22:31

That was awesome.

SPEAKER_05 22:32

I mean, unreal. Like if you like growing up in a kid in in Winnipeg where we lived, it was just street after street after street, and we would play ball hockey and well, you can only do that for what, two months in Winnipeg?

SPEAKER_06 22:46

It was in the summer.

SPEAKER_05 22:48

It was cold there. You can only play two months of ball hockey.

SPEAKER_06 22:51

It was, it was a our team was really tight there, and it was a great place to play. Yeah, because that's all they had to do. And the people were really nice. Yeah, it was you guys were good too. Lori Boshman and Ducky and Thomas, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:05

Yeah, God rest his soul.

SPEAKER_06 23:07

Three really good centerizings.

SPEAKER_05 23:09

He came here and played, and I love Dale. Yeah, Dale's great. He won the Memorial Cup with my brother Bobby in Cornwall. Yeah. Yeah. And Mike Crawford, who Chaser hates to this day. Great, great rivalry there. Not near as good as your great conversations, but I'll tell you what, I think it's time for our first break. I have no idea. This has been so fun. I have no idea what's going on in the hockey game. Zero Zero, maybe. From the Window World Studios brought to you by Seitman Cancer Center. We'll be right back.

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SPEAKER_05 24:20

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SPEAKER_02 24:49

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SPEAKER_05 24:54

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SPEAKER_05 25:24

Welcome back to IceGuardians with my co-co-host, Tony Twist, and our great friend and alum, Perry Turnbull, from the Window World Studio brought to you by Simon Cancer Center. Perry? Second overall pick here in St. Louis, and all of a sudden you get a call and you're traded. Hold on. So we gotta get we left off with the blind goalie. No, pretending to be blind. I understand. So that's where we left off. So let's go from there to the next.

SPEAKER_06 26:06

So that we we ended up losing uh to Brandon Wheat Kings in the in the finals of our league. And uh was I don't know, we played a hundred games that year or whatever it was. And uh I had uh injured my ankle. So they had I wasn't really good in the playoffs. I only I I wasn't able to help the team the way I should have.

SPEAKER_05 26:36

You got traded for five players. You should be better in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_06 26:39

Well, I should have been better, but I my I I tore the legaments of my ankle. So they had an inner tube tied around it. They put my skate on and taped it on. I didn't have laces on it or anything, put a brace on there, and uh, I wasn't as good as I should have been. We anyway, I think I could have helped them a little bit more and I didn't and we lost.

SPEAKER_05 27:01

How the heck do you use an inner tube to get what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_06 27:03

They use a uh inner tube from a bicycle tire as my legament. So they tied it up right under my knee. They put it under my foot. That's old time hockey. That was old time hockey.

SPEAKER_05 27:14

That's old time hockey right there. That is ridiculously old time hockey. That's all time. The coaches used to think I had an inner tube just above my just above my waist. Well, that was not really an inner tube, more like a Michelin.

SPEAKER_06 27:34

Um so anyway, I end up uh that would never happen today.

SPEAKER_05 27:40

I ended up he would have been out for weeks.

SPEAKER_06 27:44

Now the other thing is they said never say this. We didn't do this. They put DMSO. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:53

Gino Caffolini. Oh, like he would like drink it.

SPEAKER_06 27:56

It tastes delicious, didn't it?

SPEAKER_05 27:58

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 27:58

So so that it ended up burning a hole in my foot.

SPEAKER_05 28:02

Holy Jesus.

SPEAKER_06 28:04

So anyway, we got through the playoffs, and during that time, I tore the cartilage in my knee because my foot was just wrapped in there. But we couldn't tell anybody, and that that year WHA joined the National Hockey League, and the draft wasn't until August the 12th, August 11th. So I couldn't get any surgery or anything because you didn't want me to go down in the list because you have medical, right? So anyway, I get it done the day I get drafted, the next day I get my knee done, and I have 30 days before training camp starts. Well, I've been sitting in a chair for all this time. I come in here and I'm terrible.

SPEAKER_05 28:49

What kind of so there's no orthoscopic bathroom?

SPEAKER_06 28:52

Yeah, yeah, it was it was orthoscopic. In fact, uh Dr. Wells was his name, and I was the very first one that he did with a camera. He put a camera down there, could see what to do.

SPEAKER_05 29:03

Talk about adding up in the right spots. You should, first of all, you were lucky to get drafted with a tube tire, uh lone knee, and then hiding it from everybody, getting it fixed and 30 before camp. Are you kidding?

SPEAKER_06 29:15

Yeah, well, that's why I came in here and I wasn't my training camp, it wasn't very good. Well, you had to tell them, like, look at it, I just had I didn't say anything, and and then uh Barkley Player was a coach, and he said that young guys should sit on the bench and learn the game and everything else. Of course. So I didn't play plus they're stupid.

SPEAKER_05 29:32

I didn't I didn't play doesn't matter how good you are, you have to play.

SPEAKER_06 29:37

So I I I didn't play a lot in the beginning, and then uh I wasn't very productive. Then Red Baronson took over, and Bark got sick, unfortunately, and Red Baronson took over, and Red wanted to send me to the minors, and the cat said, no, on our first rounder. Anyway, I end up uh I end up uh getting sat down by Red. He says, I don't care if you score another goal this year, I don't want you to give any goals up. You're gonna play with Larry Paney and Mike Crombie. I would have been finished. So I played on the checking line for the next three years, every ship. We played a lot of time because you were playing against the best line and a lot of really good players. Yeah, it was a lot of good players, and I was fortunate that Larry Paney and Mike Crombie were really good defensively, and I took some chances and I ended up I think I got 34 that year on the checking line.

SPEAKER_05 30:38

Yeah, and you know, back then the they're playing against the best offense. They didn't give a shit about defense. So if you got a chance, it was gone.

SPEAKER_06 30:50

So it's probably was tell me so you know that, eh? Yeah, apparently. Was it a promotion? Because why do we have goalies?

SPEAKER_05 30:56

Being on the checking line, given the opportunity to play against the back, and these guys are not playing defensive, because they don't was that Barrett's promoting you? Because in that's the way I see that's just bad coaching. I gotta be honest with you, Scotty Paught at the ship on a defensive line.

SPEAKER_06 31:12

I wouldn't I wouldn't mind having a couple shifts with Bernie.

SPEAKER_05 31:15

Yeah, well, I mean, sure. How many of your Bernie?

SPEAKER_06 31:18

I did play one, I played one game with Bernie.

SPEAKER_05 31:20

You got two and three? Four. How many how many did Bernie plot that year?

SPEAKER_06 31:26

Bernie was a 30 goal scorer.

SPEAKER_05 31:28

Bernie?

SPEAKER_06 31:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:30

He got 30 and 70.

SPEAKER_06 31:33

Yeah, 30 and 75 or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:36

And how many did you get?

SPEAKER_06 31:38

I had uh 15 assists.

SPEAKER_05 31:41

Good. Okay. I know I was looking at his stats and I'm like, you know, that Turmal's a lot like me. I think he only had two years. Well, I don't think I had any, but he had two years where he had more assists than goals. He wasn't, you weren't quite the playmaker, were you?

SPEAKER_06 31:57

Well, unless you could put in a rebound, I didn't get assists.

SPEAKER_05 32:00

Me too. I say that all the time when I make a putt when I'm golfing, and you go, you don't get 600 rebound assists if you can't do that. So after three years on the checking line, basically, what happened?

SPEAKER_06 32:17

Well, they changed they changed ownership here. Oh my god. And uh how many times? They changed ownership here and oh, you were with Harry Ernest. What a solid company that was. I was, and they uh and I gotta be honest with you, it was a really good trade for the blues. Yeah, you know, it it was good, and it didn't work out for me in Montreal, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_05 32:39

And well, what'd you get traded for?

SPEAKER_06 32:42

I got traded for uh Jilbert Delorme, Doug Wickenizer, and uh Grace.

SPEAKER_05 32:49

Just let everybody know. Pazzer was in I didn't know Pazzer was in Montreal to start. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:55

He was a throw in on he skated like you. He was a throw-in, he could skate. Yeah, but he skated like you. I don't know about that, but like down low.

SPEAKER_05 33:04

No, I think he just skated better than you. He had a lie one stick. There's a lot of guys skated better than me. No, that is not true. But that's unreal, getting traded the number one guy for the number two guy.

SPEAKER_06 33:16

Yeah, yeah. Well, he wasn't one number one the year that year. Uh Rob Ramitz was one one when I got traded. Oh, okay. And then we had together here, which was was good. Rammer and I had a a couple of fights. I think he has to get traded here after that. I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_05 33:36

But that's I was actually you you that is a good trade. Wickenheiser, Peslowski, and uh well, especially when you see where they went.

SPEAKER_06 33:44

That was Monday Night Miracle, right? And I'm sitting in the stands. We're too.

SPEAKER_05 33:50

Because I was with that's I just signed with Calgary. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was my like first game pro even to watch.

SPEAKER_06 33:58

Wow. Well, Cliff Fletcher is an idiot, by the way. You know that, right? Yeah. We're happy about it, though. Proven here in St. Louis. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:08

So how you spent you got traded for the three. How long are you in Montreal?

SPEAKER_06 34:13

Montreal, I was there. One tantrum. Yep, one tantrum. And and uh had a little chat with Serge, and then I was off to to the a little uh actually a wonderful place. And and John Ferguson, I'm not gonna say he loved me, but he was really good to me. Really, really good. And uh went and played there. We had some great players and great teammates. But Randy Carlisle was a you know trophy winner, a Dale Howard Chuck outside of Gretzky might have been the best during that era?

SPEAKER_05 34:53

Yeah, yeah, him and Stashney.

SPEAKER_06 34:55

Yeah, yeah, Pete was definitely those three guys, and that was unbelievable.

SPEAKER_05 34:59

So and he had that same move every game, and no one knew it was coming. The go down the right wing, do that super tight turn and shoot it. He he and he played with Mullen, Joey's brother. Yeah, Brian Mullen. Brian, yeah, and and Paul McClain, who was the big Grizzly was here.

SPEAKER_06 35:19

Armadillo. You know, Grizzly played for the blues. He was here first. Oh no. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was that trade was uh Ed Stanioski was a goaltender, uh Paul McClain, and Brian Maxwell to Winnipeg.

SPEAKER_05 35:38

We got uh why would you trade Brian Maxwell? Well, we got a good player, wasn't he?

SPEAKER_06 35:43

Yeah, but we got Brad was the tough one. Oh Brian was the tough one. Brian and Brad were both tough. They weren't related, but they were both tough.

SPEAKER_05 35:54

Brian was tougher.

SPEAKER_06 35:57

Huh?

SPEAKER_05 35:57

Brian was tougher.

SPEAKER_06 35:58

I agree.

unknown 35:59

I agree.

SPEAKER_06 35:59

Brian was tougher.

SPEAKER_05 36:00

But you'd already had they already lost Gas Off? So why when you get another kind of Gas Off guy, why do you get rid of them?

SPEAKER_06 36:09

I gotta be honest with you. You know, I had I had quite a few matches myself, and I was I scored a couple goals in junior, and I thought maybe I wouldn't have that role. And Brian Sutter and I had the most fights for the team that year. I mean, Maxie had four that year, and there's a difference. People were afraid of him. Right.

SPEAKER_05 36:36

I was gonna say, I go, there's a reason. Yeah, I can't believe I didn't have 80. Like, no one was afraid of me. Well, it's because anybody was gonna fight you. Well, yeah, no, there he is right over there.

SPEAKER_06 36:48

You might have been catching coverage.

SPEAKER_05 36:51

They'd have to catch you with your arms in the air. Well, they really could have been because you were so tired of putting them up in the air, man. And they knew I was a lefty. Right. Nobody knew you were a lefty. Absolutely, except for if I signed their autograph, then they knew I was a lefty. There was no video, you and home in bed. They never saw any of them. All right, let's take one more break from the Window World Studios. One second. Hold on. We're not taking a break. One to one. Well, you said you and Brian had the most fights. How about you? How many times did you fight? Do you remember?

SPEAKER_06 37:27

I think. That's another story I'll tell you after the video.

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SPEAKER_06 40:43

Only got a few of those.

SPEAKER_05 40:45

I like that though. I like your uh how many hat tricks do you have? Thirty-three or so? Thirty-four. Thirty-three or so. Should have had more looking back. Three and a half times more goals than I want.

SPEAKER_06 41:07

Three to one on thirteen shots.

SPEAKER_05 41:11

Three to one. Losers are up three to one with thirty-five seconds into the second period, they've already got two goals. Thirteen shots. If Canada could have scored a goal like that, it would. They'd have the gold medal all the way too. Just think this looks just like the goal that Daves missed in the Olympic game. That was brutal. I don't I mean Canada played scoring opportunities. It was you gotta find bad as a US taking it. But isn't it? It's like a it's like a reverse Olympic miracle on ice. Like the miracle on ice in 80 was like, how did they beat that team? Like unbelievable. And 2020. That's a great take. That's a great take, Art. Right? Yeah. How did the USA beat that team? Like it was crazy. There wasn't a play face off in the in the Canadian stuff to the six minute mark. Team USA won every face-off in that game, basically. I was I go, I kept looking at my wife going, USA wins another face-off. USA wins another face-off. I mean it was crazy. But they didn't do anything after that.

SPEAKER_06 42:41

They didn't do anything if they wanted. We played an exhibition game against that team before they wanted to play the Russians. And I think it was 6-1. You without an effort. Yeah. They just weren't gonna be able to get it.

SPEAKER_05 43:02

Yeah, because you were men well, you were men.

SPEAKER_06 43:05

And they were kids. But I mean, for them to go from there and play unreal.

SPEAKER_05 43:11

Oh Russia. I mean, seriously, I don't think people understand the miracle that it was. It was because the NHL teams could not unless they completely went Philadelphia Flyers on them, they had no chance of beating that Russian team. Oh my god. Sick. Ridiculous. And and that college team, and think about it, college. So what the 18, 19, maybe a twenty year old here or there. Maybe. And so I'm very good friends with Mike Arruzzioni. And we were talking how the game has changed. And uh I think it was just a couple of years ago we were in a golf tournament and and he's uh you know, huge BU guy, right? Boston University, and he says, uh he goes, huh? He goes BU is the youngest team in the NCAs and their average age is 25. Wow. And so you you look at all the crap that's going on in in the transfer portal and the NIL in football and how it's ruining to me. It's ruining it. They gotta stop the major junior guys coming down and playing college after they play major junior. They're not doing it. They are doing it. That's why the age is so they they finished playing junior in Canada. Then they have four years eligibility to go play. So they're allowed to come down now where before because you were a professional. And then also they can make money too. Well the who's who do they say is gonna be the number one pick? The the kid from Penn State that is going to prison. Uh McKenna? McKenna. You know, we should know who it is. He's gonna be the number one. Hey, uh anyone of our producers over there, give me a hand. Gavin McKenna, right? And he got assaulted. Someone said something disparaging about his mom at after the uh outdoor game at Penn State College Station. And you go to jail for the biggest. Obviously, I don't think it'll happen, but he he could 30 years, that's the max they could give him. But he just the guy deserved it. Well, the guy deserved it, right? Like, but back in the bat in the back, you don't tell you what your mom did. Back in the day in Portland and and Saskatoon. You would have been the first John Draft. You guys did you guys did that shit. They didn't even have to say anything about your mom. Oh, heck no. No, we were lining up to do it. We were on the on the heels of the last story. You have to tell the Brian Song who had the most important thing. So I know you two were in battle for the penley minutes. That's why I brought that up. So please go from there. Well, we got to go. Good story. I've seen teammates battling over, you know, two guys who score goals, and it's like, I'm gonna get 39, you're getting 40, I will get 40. And but like I I would just sit there and shake my head when two guys are fighting over who can have the most penalties. And this is the national hockey movie.

SPEAKER_06 46:38

There wasn't a real fight about it. Well, what happened?

SPEAKER_05 46:40

What happened was hold on, but you argue, it was enough for such the case. I got it.

SPEAKER_06 46:44

What year is this? This was in uh 81. I got tripped by a uh a big fella, Barry Beck, and I hit the big is an understatement. And I got I I got hit, I hit my shoulder in the boards. I was going trying to break for the net, and I got tripped and hit hit the boards. Anyway, they said, Hey, listen, you need to you got a little separation, just take a little, we're gonna get, you know, you're not gonna go on this road trip. And so the road trip was Montreal, I think maybe Hartford, Montreal, and Quebec. And uh Brian to me before he left that I was ahead of him in penalty mass, but I wouldn't be when I got back, when he got back.

SPEAKER_05 47:29

Not about points or anything. Penalty minutes. Unfortunately, not about I hope we win all three games. I'm gonna take stupid penalties so I can have more penalty minutes than you.

SPEAKER_06 47:40

So anyway, they went off to play, and unfortunately, you couldn't watch the games back then. And uh so when they get back, I mean there was no all you could do is KMOX it? You got the KMOX, but you really just got the newspaper and got to see the stats, right? So I see him, and he gets back, and Brian has um his last game against Quebec, he had a fight with Wally Weir. Uh huh. Wally was a kind of a big guy, yeah, very tough. And um maybe a lefty. So I go to practice when they get back. I go back and meet the guys, and Brian's eye was a little bit puffed up. Shut up. Yeah, and uh he comes in and I just said to him, Was it worth it?

SPEAKER_05 48:32

And he went and he wanted to kill you.

SPEAKER_06 48:34

He didn't want to kill me, but he was ahead of me in penalty minutes, and he ended up ahead of me.

SPEAKER_05 48:42

And then, okay, tell the the other one. You gotta follow it up. Yeah, tell the other one when when he was out, and uh you got a chance to play with Bernie.

SPEAKER_06 48:51

I did get a game with Bernie for Durko, and I was fortunate to uh get the passes, and I I scored four goals that night. Is that your one and only game? We're playing that's a game I played with Bernie. We were playing the Toronto Maple Leafs, too, which was great.

SPEAKER_05 49:07

Um Hockey Night in Canada?

SPEAKER_06 49:09

No, it wasn't, it was down here in St. Louis. I didn't score on the road. You kidding me?

SPEAKER_05 49:14

No purpose than that.

SPEAKER_06 49:16

So so anyway, the uh the game's over. We're going to the dressing room and stuff. And Brian was out because he he the game before, he was he couldn't see out of his one eye. No, no, no, no. This was this was a number of games after that, but he was standing in front of the net and ended up getting a slap shot in the back of the neck, and he had he couldn't feel his hands.

SPEAKER_05 49:40

But can raise it back then?

SPEAKER_06 49:42

Uh yes, we had we had one. Anyway, so he got a slap shot in the back of the neck, and and they said, Hey, you gotta just let this calm down and sit out. So he sits out that next game, and we're playing Toronto. And uh Bernie slides it over.

SPEAKER_05 49:59

Who was your other right winger?

SPEAKER_06 50:02

Uh I believe it was might have been Joey Mullen that game. Or Blair Chapman. I think it was Blair Chapman. Okay. So Joey came the next year.

SPEAKER_05 50:18

I sorry, I don't want to interrupt, but I got a question after we're done.

SPEAKER_06 50:21

No. So anyway, the the game goes on, it's done, and we come in and we're all happy. We have a big win. And you score four goals. And we have a big win, and I'm sitting down, Bernie's on my on my uh right or left side, and and Jorgen Paris is on my right side, and we're sitting down and and just kind of giving each other a pat. Brian comes in the room and he runs across the room. He has his cowboy boots on, and thank God I had chin pads on because he kicked me so fucking hard. And he and he says to me, I'll be back next game. You're not taking my job. And he was back the next game. With a neck brace on.

SPEAKER_05 51:02

I mean, Twister and I were talking because you told us that during the break. And Twister and I looking at each other going, you know what? We knew it. We knew it, we knew it, we just needed to hear the story. Right? Oh they gotta get the physical in cowboy boots after winning the hockey game, competitive son of a four goals. Yes, that was competitive. And that was on his head was you're not taking my job.

SPEAKER_06 51:28

Well, he's that he was that competitive. Oh, there's no doubt. He couldn't hide it.

SPEAKER_05 51:32

And he was like that as a that's a great attribute. He was like that as a coach, too. He put his, you know, before they invented the the whiteboard, the erase thing, they they always had the uh the the high school mobile chalkboard they'd roll in there. And there by the time we'd leave some some games, there'd be three holes in it. Just he'd come in and punch his hand right through that, and then he'd go, you guys, he goes, uh I could play better than you in my boots out in highway 40. And we just sit there. Adam Oates and I, or Peter Zells and I, we'd look at each other and just go, What is wrong with him? And how many times you play good and come back in, score a goal, and he'd punch you right in the kidney, and you'd go, What did I do wrong? And he'd go, Way to go, lad! And it'd be like, holy stop hitting me! And he'd stand over with his boot on the bench and spit over top of you, and it'd be like it was raining out of me like pretty competitive.

SPEAKER_06 52:41

Oh, very competitive.

SPEAKER_05 52:42

Yeah, that whole family. Jesus. Unreal. That's a great story. Think about all of them we played with and against. I had Brian, Richie, Ronnie, played it. The only one I didn't play against was uh Daryl, but coached against me. And then Dwayne Pukie, what a great nickname, and Brent. So I mean, oh the clan.

SPEAKER_06 53:10

Clan of the Gary was the older brother that never played.

SPEAKER_05 53:14

Yeah, like there was one how they didn't play. He was a lawyer. I wonder if they have barn vision. What's that? What? Barn Vision, whatever that thing you were talking about. Barn Bion. Barn Vision. What was it? I guarantee. It's like a barn station in Canada. Barn TV. I got it down here too. Barn Barn.

SPEAKER_06 53:42

Live barn.

SPEAKER_05 53:43

There you go. Live barn. All right. So now we retire. And now you have spent how many years did we decide that you've been here?

SPEAKER_06 53:52

I've been here.

SPEAKER_05 53:53

It's gonna have to be 1979. So 80, that's 20 for the basically 45 years. And uh you've made so many friends. I have. It's been a wonderful time. And what a a group of alumni that that you played with, and we were talking about it. When you old bastards start kicking the bucket, our alumni is gonna really dwindle because these guys make so much money now, you know, they can live wherever they want. Where, you know, most of the time it was, you know, you ended up in St. Louis, you just stay here because the cost of living here was so fabulous. And you had a free pass in the parking.

SPEAKER_06 54:36

And it's it's it's a conservative area. Most of the guys married a gal from here, right? Right. And there wasn't a lot of pressure. Like you were the first one to play here that felt that pressure. Where everybody wanted Holly's autograph, everybody wanted, you know what I'm saying? So there was a lot of pressure on you go anywhere, and everybody wanted to snuggle up and and and say hi.

SPEAKER_05 55:02

Yeah, that'd be with us. That cost me a little, those ones that wanted to snuggle up. I didn't mean it that way. I know, but like think about it. Like, you know, you got traded for Wick, and then after it was done, you guys you were such great friends, Ricky Mahar and Ricky, yeah, and Wick and Pazer. Yeah, like you guys did everything together.

SPEAKER_06 55:28

We did our our we're our age was close. Right, and I our wives were friends.

SPEAKER_05 55:33

And when I when I got here, I loved kind of tagging along with you guys once in a while. We'd go to the Cheshire on on uh Christmas Eve. Yeah, and uh who was the old uh bartender there? And he had all the the brain teasers. You know, at my age, I don't remember anything. But uh yards and beer. What was his name? It was uh he's in the bartender hall of fame. We had so much fun, and we'd sit around the fire and drink yards and beer and have the chiccuterie board. We had uh the golf pros, the uh Donnie and Neil Hilkey, the Hilkey brothers, and uh I I mean uh Dennis Hennessy. Like I was just it was such an you guys had such an unbelievable group of guys.

SPEAKER_06 56:22

Yeah, it was it was good. This is I can't imagine living anywhere else, really. I mean Florida looks good, Nancy. But but no, this has been a great town for you know for all these. Just think about it.

SPEAKER_05 56:39

I mean the people are unreal, the the restaurants are unreal. Like, you know, we've got one of the best fan bases ever. The best. Yeah. Can you imagine how about that cup? Unreal. Imagine anywhere else with some of the things that have gone on. If you're in Toronto, you could sneeze the wrong way and get shot out and get shot out the ass. Yeah, here I don't know how Matthews does it. Well, I mean, seriously, yeah. But here with this hype, if you don't you have a free pass, an invitation to shake hands and pet babies, if you're respectful of the note, respectful of what you do, you're given something that people work for years, just an invitation to say hello, and a handshake. Now it's up to you to do that. Yeah, to have it. But it was it was guys like Perry and Bernie and guys that taught us that that's what I'm getting to. That's what I'm getting to. That's where it came from. That's you guys earned that for us and passed on the knowledge how to to to make that the acquisition to be able to work it, like in a right way. Some of uh the best stories I've heard of back in the day with you guys is the team parties and some of the practical jokes. Like well, I mean, back in when you used to have the snipe on. Yeah, well, putting the cellophane over the you'd hide in the shower and put the cellophane over the toilet, and the girls would go in and they'd get so burnadets told me a lot of stories.

SPEAKER_06 58:03

There was a lot of stuff back in the day that we probably can't share. Yeah, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_05 58:08

And uh like with the Babbage and those guys, they were Dougie Dougie Gilmore. What a great player he was. Oh God, I can't believe when I got traded. Another story we get like Adam Oates and Dougie Gilmar both get traded away, not because they weren't great players, just because of unfortunate circumstances and golly.

SPEAKER_06 58:33

So Dougie Dougie calls me up after I get traded. He wore number 18. He said Perry. When you first got here, Perry, would it be okay if I wore number nine? And I said, I would be honored. Awesome. But who gives a shit? Because I'm not there. But anyway, Dougie was a he was a good friend too. He was and a great player.

SPEAKER_05 58:57

Oh man.

SPEAKER_06 58:58

He's really smart.

SPEAKER_05 59:00

And when he was here, he was so good and he hadn't even scratched a surface. And Toronto, I don't even know what it was. Think about his structure. He was a big man. No, just like Gretzky. Yeah, he had the same stick as Gretzky, tried to play the same way. Like, how many guys did that? But he did it. You know, remember that remember the guy that played for Edmonton? Uh he was number 66, I think. And he didn't play long, but he he wore the he was Mario Lemieux twin. Uh God, what was his name? He didn't last a year and a half, two years. Same thing. Six foot six. Like he thought he was Mario Lemieux, and he wasn't. Well, there was a real what was his name. You'll never look that one up, don't worry. You can put the phone down, you'll never figure that one out. All right, we're gonna take another quick break. This has been really fun. It has, you know, I've been a little nervous coming in your killer stories. Thank you. Not bad, not bad for a white kid. We'll be back from the Window World Studios brought to you by Stitem Cancer with Ice Guardians.

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SPEAKER_06 1:02:56

Two pretty good pulls on that Edmonton team.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:59

Here it is again. The defenseman doesn't get it. Pack out goal. That was a one-tailer. And that's how you see that's how you do it. If he tries to dust that off, the goalie gets set in the room. I do believe that's reminiscent of something that you were very well done done. I mean, the drawback was this final. I I agree. That was very brettish. It was very brettish. And that was the hippo's high point. How prophetic. And then after that, we're gonna go to the car shield breakdown, which is two goals in 35 seconds to start the second period, to take the game from 1-1 to 3-1. And when you got two teams that are struggling, 3-1 is pretty insurmountable. During all of this, you pointed out 13 shots. Two goals. I don't know. I played a long time. I don't remember. I mean, I'm sure it's happened a couple times, but I can't recollect any time we ever scored two goals that quick. You know, maybe within a minute or two minutes might have to be a good idea.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:14

There'd be a beating coming if you did that.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:18

That's a beautiful play. That's some passing. Pretty slick. A couple of fellows that uh might be on their way out. You never know.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:34

I think Holloway will be here.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:36

Oh, absolutely. I think we're talking about the biggest thing. I was talking about the passing play. But I'll tell you what, it it's been uh a joy and a wonderful time with uh purse and my partner to Tony's and you didn't stutter, you got rid of your Tourette's for the whole thing, not even one Tourette thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:56

I took my pills.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:57

It must be catchy because you got it.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:02

I just passed it on.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:04

Yeah, we put the howdy duty hat on Tony for a second. And I'm so glad you took the anti-flatulent pills because I know you were having problems with that before. You only get that's what happens.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:15

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:16

So well done, Purse.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:17

You can do a diaper any way you want.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:20

Well, I mean, but I love I love you both. I love you both. It's gonna go down as one of the best podcasts. And uh from the Window World Studios, brought to you by Seitman Cancer Center, Ice Guardians, Brad Hull, Tony Twist. Harry Turble. God bless you. God bless you, do I say?