JIM CAMPBELL | Ice Guardians Ep 24

Brett Hull and guest host Tony Twist watched the Blues host the Devils with former Blues winger Jim 'Soupy' Campbell. Soupy tells the guys about being drafted by the Canadiens and getting to play in the old Boston Forum before it closed. Soupy talks about his business ventures and how those led to him running for Congress. The guys share stories about playing for Keenan and Twister tells the story about the time he might have given Soupy a concussion in practice.

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SPEAKER_04 0:28

Well, hello, everybody. Another episode of Vice Guardians brought to you by Window World Studios, presented by Sitemans Cancer Center, my good pal Tony Twist, and co-host with our special guests, Jimmy Soupy Campbell. Super in the house!

SPEAKER_01 0:47

And good pal.

SPEAKER_04 0:47

Yeah, buddy. And also good to be here. Also, good pal.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

Good. All of you here. It's nice. Oh, yeah. I should have asked this before. Are people like watching this live? Can they chime in and text in and make comments?

SPEAKER_05 0:59

No God. We took that out of play when we had you as a guest. We worked with nothing live. We didn't want to. We didn't want to put you in that position. You know, it was thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:10

No, they're still getting embarrassed. Yeah, people are uh people are live streaming us on YouTube. Okay. And so uh it's very exciting. Don't get nervous.

SPEAKER_01 1:20

I'm a little nervous. I'm sweating right now. How many? What are we a hundred thousand watchers, a million? At least, at least.

SPEAKER_05 1:27

Not as nervous as you were playing for Keenan. That's okay. Oh God.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

I was nervous. I mean, the first couple games, it was crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:34

Worcester Mass?

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Yep. I was born in Worcester, grew up in Westboro with a bunch of my buddies. Uh played youth hockey with Chris Gallo, Rob McCullough, John Schaefer, Rob Penn, all these guys would have been chiming in. And they're gonna love hearing the names of the world.

SPEAKER_04 1:47

Yeah, because I don't know who the hell any. I thought you were gonna name people that played in the NHL.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

No, I did play against Walt, though. Walt was two years ago. Yep. So he was on the North Shore. He was a North Shore Raider, and I was a Worcester Crusader. And we used to, he was big then too. And uh not as big as he is now. Yes, but he was big and he was a really good player. So you knew when you were playing against him. They had a tough team.

SPEAKER_04 2:11

He he ended up staying a really good player throughout his NHL career. So and uh his DNA turned out some good players too. So he gets the right. I had to think quick on my toes because I was gonna say something else. Saw it in your eyeballs. Probably not the right one. So uh, did you play prep school or did you play high school? What'd you do?

SPEAKER_01 2:35

I did. I went to uh Lawrence Academy, prep school in Groton Mass, then I went to Northwood Prep, where I ended up getting drafted by the Montreal Canadians. Right. Yeah, 28th out of there.

SPEAKER_04 2:47

So I was wondering that. Like, did you get drafted out of the Hull Olympics? Which is another question. How in the hell did you make it to Hull?

SPEAKER_01 2:54

So I was gonna get I get to that. So I get that summer I was going to go to BC. I got a scholarship to go to BC out of Northwood.

SPEAKER_04 3:01

Not much of a school guy, huh?

SPEAKER_01 3:02

No.

SPEAKER_04 3:03

Still not. No.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

But I was looking around, we had like 16 freshmen coming in. And all the guys that were playing, I'm like, where's all this ice time gonna be? Some of the guys were on like baseball stores. That's what I say.

SPEAKER_04 3:14

Why did Calgary draft me? They had like 12 right wingers on their team. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

So then Charlie Henry, Montreal goes, We want you to sign. Charlie Henry. Charlie Henry came down to the house.

SPEAKER_04 3:24

Great friends with the Gretzkies.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

Yeah, he was awesome. He came down to the house and talked to my parents and stuff, and I was like, I think we should do it. And my parents were awesome. They were like, if you want to do it, you can do it. Because I was walking away from a four-year scholarship there at BC. And you probably wouldn't have made you probably would have lost eligibility or anything.

SPEAKER_04 3:45

Because you're like me. I left Duluth after basically a year and a half. I thought it was a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

Yeah, school, I was more into hockey than school for sure. But then yeah, so he came, recruited me. I went to I was a training camp that next summer. I mean, with Steph sitting next to Stephon Roche. And I'm in 18 years old, and I'm like, what is going on here?

SPEAKER_04 4:01

You were 28th pick, weren't you?

SPEAKER_01 4:03

Yeah. 28th. So I'm in there.

SPEAKER_04 4:04

But it's it's okay. I was looking it up. It said 28th. Like, so that was the original 21. Because it was a second rounder at 28.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

I'm like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:14

I'm like, ooh, he was an original 21 draw.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

There's so many more teams now. But then yeah, that was crazy. I was going to Montreal, the old forum training camp, and cool, huh? Awesome. I mean, it was awesome to be drafted by Montreal and be from Boston. It was a little weird because all my friends were Boston group fans, but I got used to it quick because all those legends are down there.

SPEAKER_04 4:34

That's and that's what I was saying. You know, the way it is, you know, like when I was in Detroit, you know, Gordy Howe and Ted Lindsey would be around in the dressing room. And, you know, like here in St. Louis, you're you're you're not even allowed to go down there, let alone hang out in the dressing room. And uh, and I know in Montreal, the John Bellevo and those guys would be there.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

It was awesome. You know, they were in there, and and Montreal was really good to me because then I got to play in an exhibition game, which happened to be the last game in the Boston Garden. When Bobby Or came out and skated at lab, Montreal played the Bruins in an exhibition game, and they put me in the lineup for that too, which was That's pretty cool. That was really cool.

SPEAKER_04 5:09

What you play with?

SPEAKER_01 5:10

I can't remember that, but I remember just being in the garden and you have skates on. You remember? I remember my parents were there. That's cool. Yeah, it was awesome. And it was the last game of the game. What number did they give you? I think I was wearing like 27 or 44. I got good numbers. Yeah, like I know every single one.

SPEAKER_04 5:26

Well, Risha had to be 44.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

That year, but I think he got traded to maybe the next year because all the training camps blurred together. He was there for like three or four training camps.

SPEAKER_05 5:34

I think I thought he was uh five. V for V for Vaseline. Oh Jesus Edit. Right. It was just a running joke. Yeah. And I got the funny joke because you know, not being true, but one of the funniest things in the new forum, Stefan Rische, right in front of the Kubek Nordique's bench. I'm sitting beside Johnny Kay, and it's in a TV timeout, and he times this thing perfectly. Because Johnny Kay, I don't care what you say. He had he was funny, and he didn't like his role, all that stuff aside, but he was funny. So we're we're waiting for the TV timeout, you know, and Rishay's and all getting right when you hear Johnny goes, Hey, Rishay, I see there's a Vaseline on your back end where your boyfriend left the last night. And you know, and it's so and it's quiet. Everybody interrupts, you're laughing and laughing and laughing. And no, they and now the guys upstairs and after watching the tape, they don't they couldn't hear it, but I mean, pretty much the whole arena heard it. And we and the key and here's what happens after Johnny says that, everybody in the other bench is like, because me and Johnny standing, you know, staring at everybody, everybody's trying to skates. You're not. Oh, no, no, they're better skates. Nobody said a thing, and that was every time I think about Risha, I think about Johnny just killing him there. And he was on him the whole game, just every time he came by, just chirped him. And some of the one, I mean, I can't say what he was chirping, but good lord, it was good. Sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 7:13

Uh, where was I?

SPEAKER_04 7:14

Did you win?

SPEAKER_01 7:16

I can't even remember if we won the game. I remember the fans were rocking the bus on the way out. I'm like, I'm from Boston, don't kill me. The fans were like shaking the bus, and we were like inching out.

SPEAKER_04 7:25

It was off up that out of the ramp. Out of the back of the old Boston Garden.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

It was crazy.

SPEAKER_04 7:30

Unreal.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

So, but it was fun. It was I played in the miners there, I met a lot of good friends, and that's the best thing about hockey. I mean, absolutely a lot of good people.

SPEAKER_04 7:38

So and then you get traded to the Boston.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

I got traded, no, I got traded to Anaheim for Robert Dirk, who was a St. Louis Baseball. That was what, 96?

SPEAKER_04 7:50

95.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

95.

SPEAKER_04 7:51

Yeah, because then Durkey got traded to Vancouver in that uh great trade.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

So he came and I came here. I went there for 16 games, which left me under the rookie status, so I was gonna be a rookie the next year. So I played had a little bit in Anaheim, a little in Baltimore, and then that summer signed free agent with the St. Louis Blues.

SPEAKER_04 8:10

Oh, it's free agency. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:12

So the 16 games I played in Anaheim didn't qualify to put me still kept me around.

SPEAKER_04 8:17

I think it's what, 25 or something like that games? I was gonna wrong. I don't know either. And uh and so there's a big question marker who was involved in you getting here as a free agent with Bobby Plagger, Jimmy Roberts, Jimmy Papen.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 8:33

All three claimed it. Yeah, and when I was talking to him, I don't know, it was what did like you know, Jimmy Papen played with my dad with the Blackhawks in the 60s. And Arnie was what did he do?

SPEAKER_01 8:42

I don't know, but Arnie was his son was here. So I don't know, it's just kind of flattering to have all of them just even mention my name and say that they liked me, which was kind of cool. And they were probably kind of signing me for play in Worcester, which the ice cats were there. They'd probably be like, oh, that's another 20 set of season tickets. That was probably what that was gonna happen. And then I came here and played pretty good.

SPEAKER_04 9:04

Yeah, and uh got abused by uh Iron.

SPEAKER_01 9:09

The Iron Mike was interesting. I liked Iron Mike because he kind of gave me the chance. I know I'm like one of the few.

SPEAKER_05 9:15

He did give you a run. I mean, in two years, you had 84, 85 points. Yeah, no, so in two years, and that it was you did get a I continually got a chance to fill the role.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

Yeah, well, it was kind of weird because like I was in high school watching Holly, how he got 72, 86, and 70 goals, and I wanted to be Brett Hall. I practiced my slap shot. I was like, this is the guy I want to play like hockey. So then I felt like when Keenan was here and the power play would come up, he would sometimes put me out before Bret Hall.

SPEAKER_04 9:45

Right.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

And I'm on the bench and I'm going out there, like, what the hell is going on? I'm going out because he was kind of using me against you, right?

SPEAKER_04 9:52

Of course he was.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

So and that felt weird because I go out there, I'm like, I better fucking hit something. Yeah, well, it it kind of gave me the opportunity because you know when you're gonna have a power play, you're gonna be a good one. And we were good team too. We had weird players, great players, yeah. So, but it was weird going out there.

SPEAKER_04 10:07

You could shoot it too. Thank you, even though you had two strands of tape on your stick, which is but don't but hold on.

SPEAKER_05 10:12

As you're being pawned, you could you Holly knew what was going on. He knew exactly he was pawning you. Yeah, no, I was just pawning you out, right? But then that Holly made sure everybody on the bench knew that you were being pawned out.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

I agree. It was strange, but then I was like, shit, I gotta seize the moment, try to do what I can do to try to stay here. And just you know, like it was just coming out of the miners and stuff, and it was a great time. When Yorkie, remember Harry York? We were both we were both.

SPEAKER_05 10:42

The roller derby king?

SPEAKER_04 10:43

Yeah. It was his cup of coffee in the NHL, never seen again. Well, I'll tell you what, for a guy who uh what do you think he was there? A year and a bit, and he went through like 12 cars?

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Yeah, yeah. He bought your uh what was that black viper? Viper, yeah. We rolled around in that thing for a while.

SPEAKER_04 11:00

He was a good kid. I wonder what he's doing now.

SPEAKER_01 11:03

I don't know. Old Harry. I'd like to know too. Where did he go back to St.

SPEAKER_04 11:06

Louis? Back to the reservation, I bet you.

SPEAKER_01 11:08

Before the reservation, he went to the Rangers, I think, in Vancouver.

SPEAKER_04 11:11

Yeah, I knew he went to Volvo.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Yeah. And then I think last time I heard, he was coaching his son up there for U Thockey or something.

SPEAKER_05 11:19

Good for him. He was he was a big kid, big strong. Hold on. He was a stone burner. He was a stone. He was like you solid. You ran into him, yeah. You knew. And he was stoned.

SPEAKER_01 11:31

Well, I think he was a lot. Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 11:33

He wasn't the brightest.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

Yeah, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:35

But he was a good kid. He is really a good kid.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:38

So but like some of those, some of those things that Keenan did to like. And you couldn't have you couldn't have felt special because he did it to almost everyone.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Right, right. Right? Do you remember Robert Petrovicki?

SPEAKER_04 11:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

And I I kind of remember because I was like in my own role trying to survive. But I think I remember him getting sent down and getting to like Ohio, like driving around. And then they call him back. They come back. Yeah, you can come back. You're not quite there, but yeah, drive, turn around, come home.

SPEAKER_05 12:09

Um I'm pretty sure it was after warm-up. After who did he sent uh I think it was Petrovic, he sent out home after warm-up, sent him on his way, and then called him back before he hit destination.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

That's what it was.

SPEAKER_05 12:23

After warm-up, get undressed, you're going to the miners before he hit destination, bringing him back. Tough as a big thing. That's what that was.

SPEAKER_04 12:30

Jeez. I mean, like I I didn't know the warmups were that important. I didn't know either, right?

SPEAKER_01 12:35

But that's pretty interesting. Pretty tough to be a Scotty Bowman.

SPEAKER_05 12:39

And that's you know, I think Mike Keenan was trying to play a Scotty Bowman role with the mental games. I mean, and you know what?

SPEAKER_04 12:46

The people watching these podcasts, and there's almost a Keenan story almost everyone. And people come up to me and they go, I love hearing those Keenan stories because you knew he was a bad guy and everything, but now you hear a story about he sending a guy down after warm-up and then calling him back before he even gets there. It's just like those are the things that he would do. And it's almost like he'd sit in his office and thinking something like diabolical.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:16

I mean, it was just like it was incredible. And and none of the other coaches or the anyone else had the balls to stand up to him and it was like Roger Nielsen, right?

SPEAKER_01 13:26

When he was the assistant coach, boyfriend Roger.

SPEAKER_04 13:30

God.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

One thing that he did do good, though, you have to admit, was the segment bonus before the cap. Do you remember the segment bonus? No, we all got seven game segments, which were broken down like a playoff series. So every seven games we get an envelope full of money.

SPEAKER_05 13:44

Who did that? Keenan?

SPEAKER_01 13:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:46

But you did get you did get taxed, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

I don't even remember.

SPEAKER_05 13:50

You did get a W-2 that I probably did. You did. You got a W2 at the end of the year, but that was an incentive bonus, correct?

SPEAKER_01 13:55

Yeah, because we'd go on the road and we'd get these huge envelopes full of cash, and everyone was just like, here we go.

SPEAKER_05 13:59

It was a seven-game run.

SPEAKER_04 14:01

It was a seven-game period. It was a substantial amount of money. Well, you know, now that you said it, I kind of do remember the seven-game segment.

SPEAKER_01 14:08

I can remember we have to win four games to like winning a miniseries, so they qualified for the bonus. If we get shutouts, we got like an extra 200. Right. One goal against was like a hundred or something. And we were making good money. Oh, they were thousands of dollars in these envelopes. It was awesome. And like, I mean, we're not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04 14:24

Yeah, he was not afraid to spend other people's money. He was pretty generous with it. Yeah, it was great.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

And we'd stay at the nice hotels and stuff. Absolutely. Like it was. I think his philosophy was like if we win, we all keep our jobs and make more money and keep playing. If you lose, either somebody's getting fired. Him or one of the players.

SPEAKER_04 14:42

Well, I think he needed the money to tip the masseuse because he was on that masseuse table. Remember Weird Owl? I love it.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

That guy was what was his name? Weird Owl. Jeff, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:56

And he was on that table more than anybody, any player there was. Pronger and McKinnon playing 30 plus minutes a night. And nope, table's busy. Yeah. Keenan's on it. It's like, what the hell? Jeff Copeland.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

Yeah. Jeff Copeland.

SPEAKER_04 15:10

Oh my gosh, what a call. Copeland. Copeland. He was a nice guy, too.

SPEAKER_05 15:13

Super nice.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

Still in St. Louis, right?

SPEAKER_05 15:16

Well, no, talk about a guy didn't know anything about hockey. Seriously. He didn't know anything. And which is the greatest guy you want as a Mazus. Exactly. All he he was hired to do the job and he did the job. He had no affiliation with any sports, and he did a great freaking did great work for all of us.

SPEAKER_04 15:32

Well, well, there's an issue with the blues because when I first got here in like 88, the the trainers didn't know anything about training either, but that's not a good thing. I remember, I remember that that the old dressing room down at the dungeon? That year the All-Star game was here. And Gary Souter from the Flames uh played in the All-Star game, and he had kind of a bad knee. And so, you know, Bearcat in Calgary was fantastic. But so he comes here, and our our team doctor has not team doctor, but trainer has to uh uh tape his knee, and he taped it and he he walked in the dressing room and just cut it off. And it's like, you have got you kidding me. The trainer of the blues doesn't know how to tape a knee, and it's like, holy boy. And we dealt with that a lot. Well, Dr. Gildon was fine, and Dr. Beerbaum.

SPEAKER_05 16:24

At the point it was Beerbaum was awesome.

SPEAKER_04 16:26

Dr. Beerbaum was great, but uh uh Norm Normackie. Oh my god. He couldn't fix a blister.

SPEAKER_05 16:36

Do you remember Gene? Gene Ray?

SPEAKER_04 16:38

Yeah, oh Gene.

SPEAKER_05 16:41

Did you see him? What's he doing? Yes today, he's retired. He's retired from the electrical uh the retired electrician. All right. Yeah, he looks the same, he's just a little older version.

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SPEAKER_01 20:23

Good to be here, fellas. Thanks for having me. You know it.

SPEAKER_05 20:25

Thanks for being had, young man.

SPEAKER_04 20:27

Well, I mean you're not that young, but yeah, so we're still on uh Keenan stories where we were just talking about how he sold the farm to get Wayne.

SPEAKER_05 20:40

Uh what about you have a story about MAT, I think. That's right. We didn't touch on it, but I want to I I need to know the backfield there.

SPEAKER_04 20:50

Mac T got uh we got him from uh the Rangers, right? And with Anderson and everyone else that he had uh in New York winning the cups. Step on step on my step on my toe. Step on my toe and noones, yeah, yeah. And so uh, you know, you you saw the war between me and Keenan, and uh uh Mac T looks at me one day and he goes, Hully, we gotta talk. And I look at him and I go, uh, well, Mac T, uh, I've got something I gotta do after practice, but uh, you know, let's do lunch or something after next practice. And he's like, Okay. And uh it never happened, or we had a bunch of games and then maybe a road trip or something. And it just didn't happen for about a week or 10 days. And uh I came to practice one day and I was sitting there doing nothing as usual, probably just stretching. And uh Mac T comes in, looks at me and goes, Hey Hully. And I go, uh yeah. And he goes, Uh Remember that talk I wanted to have with you? And he goes, Never mind, you're right. And he he he finally gotten beaten by Keenan and he goes, he goes, You're right. He's just a terrible human being.

SPEAKER_05 22:08

Yeah, he was gonna try to tell me that, hey, you know, the you know, you gotta lay off Keenan or you know, so he was he was out of your corner, then quickly became in the corner. Yeah. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 22:20

No, that speaks volumes because Matt T. It's very similar to the story when I, you know, I told Wayne not to come. I said, do not come here. He's a this guy's the most worst, he's the worst person on earth. And he goes, Oh, you know, we'll he'll change when I get here. And I go, No, he won't. And he goes, Well, I'm coming. And so I said, Okay. And ten days after he got here, he looked at me and goes, Man, I should have listened to you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Big time.

SPEAKER_05 22:44

So it's like And that was it, that was a team, and I'm gonna ask you this question there. That was a team that if we would have beat. Yeah, that's what you were saying. We beat Detroit. It's like a million-dollar question. All right, so we beat Detroit in game seven, and we have a good, strong possibility to replicate what Detroit did by winning the Stanley Cup. We had a cup team. Does that forgive everything that he did up to that point?

SPEAKER_01 23:07

Right.

SPEAKER_05 23:07

And I said for sure it would have. What is your answer?

SPEAKER_04 23:10

You bring a cup to say.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

I came that summer, but I'm watching as a fan. Right. Oh, that's right, you did. Yeah, I'm watching as a fan, and I think when you win a Stanley Cup, everything gets forgiven. Absolutely. Yeah, and it's bond to the next year, and everyone signs.

SPEAKER_04 23:25

But it's the dead opposite. What do you think? They piss Wayne off so much he leaves, and now we've lost all the players and draft picks we gave up on.

SPEAKER_05 23:31

But the same thing was done in New York, and they were successful. We were pretty close here. So, I mean, that's the only thing I'm I'm I'm throwing out there. That's a that's a valued piece.

SPEAKER_04 23:39

Yeah. Because they just had their hundredth anniversary thing in New York on the ice. Yeah. And Keenan was on the ice. He looked old, didn't he?

SPEAKER_01 23:47

I went up to Chicago. I played in Chicago after St. Louis, and that he had a hundred year in Chicago, which was really cool. Yeah, right. That's great. They gave us a black ox jackets and stuff.

SPEAKER_04 23:58

Yeah, but Detroit just sent me mine. It's cool. Got a cool, cool retro jacket with uh with a retro jersey.

SPEAKER_01 24:05

It was fun. Where's yours? Uh my jacket? Yeah. It's in my closet right now. Well, I went up for the weekend. They put us up in a hotel, we went on the ice, we had two dinners. It was awesome for us. It was good to see Virgie.

SPEAKER_04 24:19

Shelly there and Roanick and those guys all.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

It was really cool.

SPEAKER_04 24:22

Well, you can't have a Shelly FaceTime me from the bus with Joey Kosher. He goes, Where are you? And I went, Well, they sent me the email and I said, Yes, me and Darcy will be there. And then they never communicated again. And I'm like, It's now? And I'm just in there doing nothing in uh Dallas. And I'm like, oh God. I wish I could have been there. That would have been good for you.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

Yeah, no, that was fun. It was a great weekend. Dennis Savard was in there. I didn't see him in a long time. Yeah, he was a really nice dad.

SPEAKER_05 24:51

So who did you have rep uh to make you fake tickets to get in?

SPEAKER_01 24:54

No, I didn't. AI. Even tried to say AI. AI. 3D printer, man. 3D printer. I had a lanyard to go everywhere with.

SPEAKER_05 25:03

I gotta meet this guy that you've got. All right.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

No, it was a good time. Does he do concerts too? Oh yeah, whatever you need. Okay, good. Backstage.

SPEAKER_04 25:11

I know, reverber. And so now you've retired.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 25:15

And you've become a uh kind of an entrepreneur. You've got bars, restaurants, uh house.

SPEAKER_05 25:22

No, no, that's entrepreneur. It has a front entre, okay? Go ahead. Not manures.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

So I got lucky. So I got I got into John P. Fields in Clayton, which was a hockey bar, and everyone went there. It was a great location. And we had a couple partners there, and it took off and it just kind of ran. I didn't know the restaurant business, but Johnny Harris did, and he was one of our partners.

SPEAKER_04 25:43

You knew how to go to one.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Yes, I knew how to spend money in there and have fun in there. So Fields went good, and then we actually uh Freddie's I can't remember his last name was buying the whole block. So we had to go across by I bought a place across the street, especially for the St. Cup finals. We had both bars going packed on both sides. It was perfect.

SPEAKER_04 26:02

Right.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

So that got lucky. Then we had to move all of it across the street, so now we're in 15 North Central, and we're chugging along there for I don't know, five or six years. And making good money, learning the business all the time. It's tough, it's a tough business. Everyone who's in restaurant business is working hard. Um then we got hit by a truck, a Dollar General truck, hit us at closed it, but the guy in did you pick up? Yep, the guy in is in Kirkwood. We bought the guy in probably. I've had that for probably 15 years, too.

SPEAKER_05 26:30

So you still had P Fields when you got all the guy?

SPEAKER_01 26:33

I had them both.

SPEAKER_04 26:34

And then uh How do you find out the uh the the guy are in is for sale?

SPEAKER_01 26:39

Well, here's the thing, they were trying to tear all the houses down and tear down the guy you're in. And they had a contract with the lady uh that was selling it, and then something got a hiccup in it. So then someone came to me and said, Super, you want to buy this thing? I'm like, all right, well, how much is she selling for? And I was like, Yep, let's do it. Boom. And it's been like it's been awesome because it's in my it's my basement bar, it just happens to be down the street. You know, and all the neighbors come, it's it's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 27:04

That's good.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Yeah, it's easy to work on, and it's made a lot of things. It really is. That's what like Sammy Malone, you know, that's what you're supposed to do after you have a sports career. Own a bar.

SPEAKER_04 27:14

And from Boston.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

Yeah, oh yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:17

Still enjoying it.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

No, I don't enjoy working at all. I I don't really work there. But I enjoy fishing, you know. Like now I I got a place at the lake now.

SPEAKER_04 27:27

Where'd the lake?

SPEAKER_01 27:28

Ozarks. Oh, god. Yeah. Nice. So I go down there and fish a lot and relax, and that's what what I'd prefer.

SPEAKER_04 27:35

What kind of boat you have?

SPEAKER_01 27:36

I have a Boston whaler.

SPEAKER_04 27:38

Get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

Yeah. Yeah, anyway. How big? 30 30? No, no, I have a 21-foot Boston whale. I have actually three whalers right now because I can't if I see them, I gotta like buy them. And if they're in the neighborhood.

SPEAKER_05 27:48

Well, it's like me in golf clubs. It's four when you're in one.

SPEAKER_01 27:51

Yeah. What's that? Four. Yeah, funny, buddy. But I actually bought like a police boat. It was a harbor master boat, and it's got the police decals on the side.

SPEAKER_05 28:02

So I left them on there, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

Shortwalk drive around with some muscle. It's it's good.

SPEAKER_04 28:08

All right. And, you know, I found out that uh you knuckleheads are all uh dialed in on a barbecue sauce company, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Oh, yeah. You and Twister. Bare knuckle barbecue sauce. Me, Cam, Twister, Rivs, and Losy. And it's been fun. Yeah, yes. It's been a good sauces are good. Good education.

SPEAKER_05 28:30

What's gonna be next? Like relishes or uh we are gonna move on to different things. One no doubt, under the bare knuckle nation. So we're gonna put the the T, the, the, the, the tops and the T's, the I's and the I's the dots and we getting this on uh camera here.

SPEAKER_04 28:45

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SPEAKER_01 28:51

You can buy it in Amazon. On the Amazon, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:55

I will be a customer as soon as I get off the air.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

Yeah, I call my brother, he's like, What? You have a barbecue sauce? I'm like, yep. He's laughing at me.

SPEAKER_04 29:03

My wife will laugh at me. I only got a pantry full of sauces.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

Like you need another one.

SPEAKER_04 29:09

Right. Well, that's fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

Yeah, that's fun. It's been fun.

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SPEAKER_01 32:06

Yeah, I was just watching TV. I'm a big Fox fan, and I was like, let's try this thing. I wanted to learn how it worked in America and stuff. And I signed up to be a state representative of District 4 and see how it went. It was fun. I met a lot of people, I campaigned a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 32:22

Yeah, I gave you my full endorsement.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

Yeah, that was awesome. Thank you. The video was didn't seem to work though. No, no, it worked. It was good. I was I put it out there a lot. It was good.

SPEAKER_05 32:31

You probably can take take it in District 4, meaning it was around Lake of the Ozarks.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Yes. Because I was working on my house down there. So I was like, well, this could be kind of fun. Was that why you got involved? Nah, no, I just kind of wanted to learn a little bit more about it.

SPEAKER_05 32:44

How do you get your how do you get your we have to go to a break? No, no, no. So let me ask you how Soupy, I've been playing hockey with you for and known for a lot of years. And I'm thinking the last place I would expect a guy like yourself, how do you put your name, write it on a piece of paper, flip it into the Republican hat, and go, hey, I have something to say. And they and and somebody goes, Well, Jim Campbell's gotten something smart to say. Let's see what he's got smart to say. I just don't see that being real in today's world. How does that happen?

SPEAKER_01 33:18

It was strange, but I wanted to do it. I actually kind of learned the ropes and studied. I got to the day, I got to the state house to sign up, and I got my first name on the ballot.

SPEAKER_05 33:28

So you went personally. So explain to the process. Give it to me.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

So all these guys are lining up and putting their names and signing it all up. And so the earlier you get there, you get a number, and then they draw it out. And if you're if you sign up the first day, you get to be one of the first people on the list, which is big. Some people just go bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. I get the first of the list. So I'm like, okay, first thing hurdle. I'm like chugging along here. Top of the list.

SPEAKER_05 33:56

Well, I should hold on, back it up one second. So you're in front of all these politicians. Then we do politician stuff.

SPEAKER_04 34:02

Yeah, but is anybody really a politician until they get elected and then they become a politician? That's right. That's right. 100%. I'm with you.

SPEAKER_05 34:10

But my question is, are they looking at you like, what do you know? And are you feeling uncomfortable? Because this is this is a step.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

Oh, it's definitely a step, and I probably should have, I was probably too dumb to know to not to be uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_04 34:22

You know, I just dare with these people, and I'm like, Yeah, but you got a great personality for a politician.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

Exactly. I think I I like to talk to people, I get along with people. Yes, and you are smart. Yeah, I feel like I'm pretty smart.

SPEAKER_05 34:32

I'm throwing this out there because you did this, and what you did the steps.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 34:37

Other people out there are interested in being a change or doing something, is you know, validate what you did and how you got there.

SPEAKER_04 34:43

And what and ultimately, and then after I want to know what the um the final result of the election was.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Okay. So if you have a lot of questions. That's a lot, uh, but you got a good memory. But so through the whole process, if you if you're out there and you think you want to make a change, even if it's local in the city halls and stuff, you gotta get out there. Because otherwise it's gonna slip away like Minnesota. And I'm sorry to say, like that kind of got away from us out there. So I just kind of put my name in the head and wanted to make a change. I'm sure you should say us, them.

SPEAKER_05 35:14

So when you say you put your hands up, you got away from them. What do you mean? So you went and signed up.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

I signed up. I filled out all the paperwork, signed up on your own, all by myself. Like I was navigating, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 35:23

No, but usually somebody's gonna be guided for making it sound like he's going to kindergarten for his first day.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

That's pretty much what it was like. Because they do have companies coming at you, they're like, oh yeah, we'll run you all through, we'll run your campaign. And I didn't have that much money to do all that stuff. I was like, I was gonna try to do it myself, and it was working out okay. Then we went along and I went to some different events, then the election came, and now I'm in down at Climax Springs, the Lake of the Ozarks. So I end up getting like 5,000 votes, I think. I didn't come in last, but I didn't win. But last would have been embarrassing. But the leader had like came out of Kansas City, so he got all the Kansas City votes. He was like a weatherman in Kansas City, so he had it cornered. I didn't really know that. But I got like 5,000 votes, and now I see people down in my town, and like I voted for you. I'm like, thank you. It's it's kind of cool, right?

SPEAKER_04 36:14

But okay, now what was your you know, everyone like Trump said I'm running on uh I'm the crime president and I'm gonna be the border president.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

They didn't really ask me that, but I'm kind of a Trump fan and everything. I'm a Republican and just common sense. I'm like I'm not gonna have guys in common sense. Exactly. It's putting not putting guys in girls' sports, all that kind of stuff, and just almost every exactly what Trump's been doing. Because I'm proud of my president right now, he's doing an awesome job.

SPEAKER_04 36:43

I agree a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

We're lucky, we're lucky because it was a tipping point there this last election. Right. So, and it's gonna be interesting to see what happens moving forward. Like this thing with Iran right now will be tricky, and the next election is gonna be very interesting.

SPEAKER_05 36:56

Back up to where? So, how do you uh you got 5,000 votes? Who's winning? And what many people voted?

SPEAKER_01 37:04

Not that many. If I go back and look at it, I tally all the votes, I have to go look. It was probably 30,000 votes, maybe. And the leader got what? Like, 11,000, you think so, yeah. Well, for your now. And for my first thing, it wasn't bad.

SPEAKER_05 37:17

Why'd you not go back?

SPEAKER_01 37:18

I don't know. I got tired and I took up fishing.

SPEAKER_05 37:26

Maybe you weren't the best guy to have. Maybe you would have gotten more.

SPEAKER_01 37:29

I might have, but it would have been when I if I would have got to be.

SPEAKER_04 37:32

Well, that's what half of them do anyway. They don't do anything.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

If I would have got to Washington, D.C., I would have had a f a fun time there. Because you think all those people you got to network with, all those politicians, you get the senators, the congressmen, like that's a lot of people to talk about.

SPEAKER_05 37:46

Washington, D.C. is quite a ways away from where you had yourself.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

But that's what I was going for. I was I was the rep District 4, I would have been in DC. Awesome. No, which was that's what I was going for. I wasn't going like local city council. Like they were trying to. Alderman. Yeah, people. Alderman talking about. Did you campaign? A little bit. I went down to the Lake the Ozarks to shook some babies and kiss some hands, or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 38:10

Shook some hands, kiss some babies. Maybe that's another reason we didn't win. It's not good to shake babies. That's why I didn't win.

SPEAKER_05 38:19

Depending on where you're kissing the babies.

SPEAKER_04 38:21

I'll tell you what, though, that's see, that's a great life experience. That's cool to be. That's why I did it.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Because I wasn't like I thought about it, I was like, why no better time than now? Let's just do it.

SPEAKER_04 38:30

And what a way to get into the barbecue business.

SPEAKER_01 38:32

Yeah, well.

SPEAKER_05 38:33

That's a pretty good story.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

I would love it. And if I like I said, if I would have won, it would have been a field day in DC. I would have been held networking like crazy. It would have been fun.

SPEAKER_04 38:42

God only knows the chirper. That would have been something. See him on Fox News. Today we've got from District 4, Jim Campbell. Hi, uh, Brett, glad to be on your show. Brett Barr, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

That would be good.

SPEAKER_04 38:57

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SPEAKER_05 41:00

Twister. Well, we were touching on, I want to go back to Keenan just for a second or two. And hot topic. It is, but I want to touch on just because from another guy's perspective, who basically just, it was 96, right? 96, 97, you come in. This is kind of a brand new deal for you being exposed to what is typically not a dressing room that you would find in any NHL hockey club, nor would you see the responses and maybe some of the um announcements made by particular players and how they were and how they're addressing not only the team but the coach with some aggressive. Tell me what your perspective, because I we were used to it at this point. We knew Brad Hall, and we know, and everybody did, but you did not.

SPEAKER_01 41:50

I didn't really know what was going on. At first I was shocked. Like Holly had the seat right next to the door to go into Ray's office, those little train kit, and I was over to the right. And Holly would yell something while Keenan had his office through the locker room and far, far away. So it had it would be loud. And he would yell something like, You fuck you, or something. And I'm tying my skin, I'm like, holy shit, this is really happening. He's yelling at the coach. I'm like, because I never yelled at my coach ever. But I was like, he's I'm like, well, I never did either until him. But then I'm like, what he's saying makes sense. You know, like we're I'm thinking exactly what he's yelling at for.

SPEAKER_05 42:29

But uh with the understanding everybody, it's a full dressing room.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

Oh, everyone's in there between periods. We're not game.

SPEAKER_05 42:35

The distance between where Holly's yelling at and where the coaches are is half a football field. That may be an exaggeration, but it's it's damn close. And I know we all know Mike could hear it. And that wasn't just once or twice.

SPEAKER_01 42:49

I think he choked back a couple times. Oh, could he have a big thing? Yeah, he was yelling back, too. He loved it. Yeah, it was it was awesome.

SPEAKER_04 42:55

Absolutely loved the chaos, the the like just the complete discombobulation of what a real dressing room should be. He loved it. And you got to experience that.

SPEAKER_05 43:09

Have you ever seen that again?

SPEAKER_01 43:11

Oh, that will never happen again, I don't think. It will never happen. No, because this it will be.

SPEAKER_04 43:15

Because now it's it's like recess.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:19

Like the coach and the players are buddy old pals, like there's no, you don't practice, you don't.

SPEAKER_05 43:24

Yeah, the games, well, there's you never can see it again. The games change in so many different ways that I can't compute. And and some of them are great, and some are like, I I can't even believe that's happening kind of thing. It just blows me away.

SPEAKER_01 43:37

Yeah, to go back to it, like he said everything we were thinking. We got bag skated one time in pregame skate. We've down to the blue line, touch the post, go back. That's insane, right? Yeah. We have a game that night and we're getting bag skated, and you said something like, Okay, Uncle, or something. And I was like, Thank God. I gotta go get my pregame meal and go to sleep and rest. I might not make up but wake up for the game. Yeah. So that was it was great to have.

SPEAKER_05 44:02

All of the same you said you liked Mike.

SPEAKER_01 44:05

I did. Because he gave me a chance to play. I mean, I gave me a lot of ice time. Like, I'm a rookie. Like I said, I was a rookie coming in, and he gave me power play time. He gave me PK time, but that all boils back to kind of fighting you.

SPEAKER_04 44:18

It was like he was auditioning you because he knew at some point they were going to get rid of me. Because it was that there was a tipping point. It was like it was not a healthy situation. Like it was every day we would fight.

SPEAKER_01 44:33

It was not only in the in the paper.

SPEAKER_04 44:36

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:37

It was chaos.

SPEAKER_04 44:38

Yeah, it was like the things he would do that would drive me nuts is like we'd we'd lose 3-2, and the power play would go 0 for 3 or 0 for 4. And he'd go, Yeah, it's the power play's fault that we uh we lost, and then the media would come to me and go, Well, Mike says it's the power play's fault. And I go, you know, go back in there and talk to that idiot and go ask him when the last time we practiced the power play was. Remember, we'd never practice it ever.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

Yeah, it was a free-for-all.

SPEAKER_04 45:08

And he just throw anybody out there and go, you guys know what to do.

SPEAKER_01 45:11

It's like there were no set plays. It was just gonna go.

SPEAKER_05 45:14

I think it wasn't what you said. You wanted he wanted you guys to be creative.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

That's what it was. Of course. Be creative. You have a good memory. Yeah, that was just remembered.

SPEAKER_04 45:23

But when you're out there against Chris Chelios, you don't have time to pick your head up and go, okay, where is everybody? When he's out there, you need to know where to move the puck when you got it.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

Yeah. We did have Al, though, and that was the sunshine, yeah. Like you know dropping bombs out there.

SPEAKER_04 45:40

Right. But I mean, but thank God if we could get it back to him and maybe he'd either score or we'd get a good chance off a rebound. But I mean, it was just the things that he would do, and then it was never, it was always I always said that. We won and they lost. That's what he would tell the media. We won, but when we lose, it was those guys, they didn't play good enough, they didn't play hard enough. The power play sucked. It was never, it was never we lost, it was always they lost.

SPEAKER_05 46:11

And he pissed me off. And this is not off-tuck subject, but Holly was a chirper all the way through. Now, I'm gonna what people don't know about you, Zoopi, is yes, you know, we were talking on break about what the difference is. You know, you were happy, go lucky. Yeah, very you were there's the happy dude in the drag room. You worked hard and everything else, and yeah, of course, and you had a it was a different attitude, you know, and there was a good personality. Yeah, personality. Okay, yeah, but it's no Bobby Bassin. But you chirped too. You were a you mouth ran in different areas where nobody knew you were running your mouth.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

I was almost politicking before I was politic, right? Because when uh the story with Riz were of course foreshadowing we missed. Yes, we didn't get that before. I didn't I just got it myself.

SPEAKER_05 46:58

And this is only one story of many because you were a political player. Yes, and this is go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 47:05

So I was playing Riz, who ended up being my roommate here in St. Louis, but this was like two years before. Never met him. And I think he was in Worcester and I was in Fredericton or so or Baltimore, and uh I was kind of leaving the zone, flying the zone to try to get a stretch pass, and he slashes me, like trying to break my wrist. Like, I'm like, whoa, whoa, ri, what is going on? I didn't even know his name. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, What are you cherry-picking bastard? I'm like, dude, I'm just trying to get a goal. Listen, you let me go get a goal, I'll let you go backdoor on me and our team. When we both get goals, we'll be in the NHL. I thought it was a great idea. Well, of course. And he laughed.

SPEAKER_04 47:43

I agree. I mean, like, it's in the minors. Like, we I don't think we need to be slashing.

SPEAKER_01 47:48

Exactly. Like, I'll get a break. We're both in hell, and then we'll both be in the NHL. And then lo and behold, we both end up in St. Louis. We'll both end up being roommates on the road. It was it worked out great. And he's still telling the story, too.

SPEAKER_04 48:02

Let me score, I'll let you score. It's like, well, it's way easier to let the forward score. What are you gonna? Oh, I just won't cover you on the blue.

SPEAKER_05 48:09

I can see you saying, Boss, I can see you saying that with no quits about it. But you probably wouldn't have said it so calmly.

SPEAKER_04 48:18

Well, I tell you what, and and you you think about it, and it kind of did happen too for me, I should say, in an off way. It was just, it was more of one of the nicest things ever is uh my year in the minors. I had 49 goals in the last game of the year, and no rookie had ever gotten 50 goals in the AHL. And we were in uh Halifax playing the Oilers minor league team, and um I think the game was tied, and Larry Kish was the coach, and he pulled their goalie so I could get my score we we won 4-3. But you want to I think he did it so I could get that goal because there was no reason for him to pull the goalie. Was it tied 3-3? Yeah, I think it was tied 3-3. That's wow, yeah. And so it was like it was pretty cool. I I don't know if it's true or not, but there's no there's no reason, right?

SPEAKER_05 49:21

Come on, let's be serious. Yeah, there's no reason, right? Did you ever speak to him after that? No, never did.

SPEAKER_04 49:28

I never thought about it till after, and I was like, why did they pull the goalie? And I'm like, well, looking back all these years, I think it's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 49:37

So let me score that goal 50. That's you know, again, that that's you're politicking, right? You're you're 49. I mean, everybody knew.

SPEAKER_04 49:45

Yeah, he must have the way I played defense, he must have gone. Well, he's given us a whole bunch. How are you give him this one?

SPEAKER_05 49:54

That's a beautiful thing. Boys, I got my mom's watching. All right, my mom's twist. How are we doing? Mom, Carol, Twist, my mom. Hello. This is Twist. I hope you're enjoying the show. Now, you'd realize mom's gonna have tears in her eyes after this because I got dad and my sister. That's awesome, and Jamie, my fiance are back there watching it. And I love it. So uh, mom just loves one day in town. Uh we're here for a week. Awesome. Spend a week there. So I appreciate the planned or what city is he? A bunch of mom's in British Columbia, Camloops.

SPEAKER_01 50:29

Nice, nice.

SPEAKER_05 50:30

Right down the road from Penticton. You know it, big boy. You absolutely know it.

SPEAKER_04 50:34

Right.

SPEAKER_05 50:35

I've got one story. This is good. I love it. I got one story, a Jim Campbell's story. Tony Twist stories are excellent. I don't know if Jimmy remembers it or not because he may have suffered a small concussion after he after he dangles me in practice. So we had back-to-back. What a game. What a bad decision that is. I don't know what he was doing.

SPEAKER_04 50:55

You just kind of go wide and let him cut you off, and okay, that's the end of the drill. Well, we do not walk.

SPEAKER_01 51:01

That was a bad choice. Yes. Well, you can't get on Al or Prong, so it's not even about walking me, bro.

SPEAKER_05 51:08

We had just lost. We have a we're gonna have a 40-minute just easy practice, could jump in a plane. Play the team back to back, and I I think it was Chicago, I can't be for sure. But you and Rivs come into the dressing room just happy, go like you know, understand you're not late. All right, but you're not early, okay? So we're all half dressed, and you got you and Rivs. Hi Stephen. Talking about whatever, get over there, completely talking about last night, what bar they were in.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

I was still a rookie, I was a lot to learn.

SPEAKER_05 51:49

Um and I sat beside Fierzy and Fusey goes, What the hell's going on there? And I go, I don't know. He goes, right now. Everybody else is saying the same things. You guys come in, getting dressed, all right, still oblivious to the situational awareness. And you know, there's a little bit of heat, a little bit of aggravation in the whole dressing room. We get on the ice. Now, it's a we got Fierzi who's just a target at this point. You shoot around the target, you don't miss the net, right? You don't shoot at the target. Yeah, I mean, how many games did he play that year? Was it 70 or 78 and 76 in a row?

SPEAKER_01 52:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:22

I mean, are you kidding me? Okay. Now keeping that in mind. And it's supposed to be a 40-minute those get off rackers. And I'm playing, I'm the fifth wheel, just whatever, sometimes forward, sometimes the back end, doesn't wherever I fit in. I'm playing D. And it's coming in from the neutral zone, and you, Mr. Dangolitis, here you're coming in. You go one way, you go the other way, right between my legs, all right? Bad up. Dipsy-doodle me, all right. Then from the top of the circle, unleash a rocket over Furzy's shoulder into the net. You, with I don't know what's going in your head, put your fucking hands up like you scored a fuck, like you scored a game winner in the national arcade.

SPEAKER_01 53:10

No, no, no, that's a little fabricated.

SPEAKER_05 53:12

Okay, baby. Fusey like this.

SPEAKER_01 53:15

That might happen. Yeah, this part yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:17

He's not gonna chop your legs off. I'm pretty sure my neck he was gonna chop your head off. And I said, I got a furzi. Now I I get you from behind, I pick you up, we're at the top of the face-off circle, and I you're still celebrating. Right, you're still you're celebrating, you're you're collecting confetti. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kissing the fan. And right.

SPEAKER_01 53:40

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:41

You see that? I toss you, I pick you up at the top of the circle. Now, you're we're right at the face-off dot. And I throw you, you do not touch ground till you hit the boards head first. Right. But doing now, at this point, now everybody's seen it. Now that now, going back to the heat you guys didn't see going in, nobody kind of blinked. Nobody blinked, nobody said anything. First of all, you came in happy, go like a second, you rifled this thing. Great shot, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 54:07

So thanks, thanks. Fair progress. I could shoot it. I probably thought it was like roofer or case. Oh, yeah. I don't know what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_04 54:14

Grant Fury, he's the only black guy.

SPEAKER_05 54:16

Don't get all wound up. He went around me. I'm not a great it wasn't all that good, but you did it. It was a great move. No, nobody says nothing, and practice continues. Nobody actually goes to see if you're all right. No, you're still laying down.

SPEAKER_01 54:28

Sleeping. I was like, You were out.

SPEAKER_05 54:30

Now there was no reason why. Keenan blows the whistle not to get attention to you, everybody to the other end. Everybody goes to the other end. Ray comes on the ice to collect you. Keenan blows the whistle. Get back on the bench. Oh, you're fired. So Ray gets back onto the bench. Now Bert's there too, right? And we start running practice half ice. You're still out on the corner. Ray comes out again. I can't believe there's still not a chalk line out there. Ray comes out again with Bert and he screams again. He goes, It's my job. Ray goes out and collects you, right? You're getting, you're putting you all together.

SPEAKER_01 55:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 55:05

When you get off the i no, nobody's talked about it. Now, seriously, nobody's talked to said a word about it. We continue on for another five minutes, and then Mike calls practice. Keenan calls practice, and everybody's gonna go off. Now, here's what happens. Usually at that point, Fierzi, you know, takes off, goes to the dressing room, does his thing, and everybody's about ready to get off. And uh Chopper goes, Hold on, boys, we're gonna have a little, we're gonna have a little uh shootout, right? Now, usually Fierzy, you know, goes off the ice or whatever. He hung around. The reason he did that was because he wanted to give you time to get out of the dressing room before anybody got in there. We did a little shootout, and then you know, Chopper came around. Not nobody's talked about it, right? Nobody said a word, and everybody goes in, and you are still in the training table. When you came out, nobody said a word to you. I want to turn, like somebody turn your back to you, like as you walk through. And I think I don't know if you were dazed and confused, trust me. I don't believe that you understood the gravity of what just went on. But I believe I guarantee he didn't die definitely. But it was um, it was definitely an education process that I don't you probably don't remember anything, but you can ask Ray about it, you can ask any of the guys. It was probably the one of the funniest, non-talked about it, never got discussed again.

SPEAKER_01 56:24

I believe it happened because there was another telling lies here.

SPEAKER_05 56:27

I mean, there was 40 other guys that watched it happen.

SPEAKER_01 56:30

I probably got a concussion from it and forgot about it and couldn't remember, but there was another time in LA when you tried to kill me, too.

SPEAKER_05 56:36

Well, you probably earned it.

SPEAKER_01 56:37

I oh badly. I think we did. We had our rookie meal the night before. We were at the Palms or something, remember?

SPEAKER_05 56:42

Yeah, great spot.

SPEAKER_01 56:43

Awesome dinner. It was fun, and uh we ran into each other doing a drill across the blue line, and I kind of saw you before you saw me the next morning because we're still loaded. We probably shouldn't have been having practice, but we haven't practiced in LA. And we went like this, and I kind of saw you and I kind of chuckled. And you were like down and then got up, and your eyes rolled at back your head.

SPEAKER_05 57:04

Did you hit me hard enough to knock me down?

SPEAKER_01 57:06

Yeah, I don't know. I I you didn't see me. I saw you at just the last second, and you kind of like just stumbled. It wasn't anything. Then I saw your eyes, and I skated away as fast as I could. I mean, I ran away on the ice, and I could hear you know those first three strides skating, chop, chop, chop. And you launched your stick like this in a helicopter, and it hit the glass, and I like ducked out of it, and then I thought you were gonna slip coming after me. I was like, thank god, and kind of cooled down.

SPEAKER_05 57:30

Well, I apologize. You must have been a bad evening for me somewhere. So it was kind of out of character. Usually it wouldn't throw my stick, I could throw my gloves off.

SPEAKER_01 57:38

Well, the bear, it was better than the bear hug.

SPEAKER_05 57:39

Well, I apologize for that, you know. But you probably earned it. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 57:45

But we had some other successful plays too, when you gave me that breakaway pass in the New York Rangers.

SPEAKER_05 57:50

Yeah, that was by accident. MSG? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 57:55

I don't remember. I remember him like skating, and I don't know if it was like leech or something coming here and he was an MSG. And he shoveled the puck like this, and it flipped like over his stick, and I ended up going over the bottom.

SPEAKER_05 58:05

But it wasn't a pass, okay. It was completely biased. Just go with it. The dumping you talk about where you flipped.

SPEAKER_01 58:13

I call it a sauce. Yeah. But it was like a like it's a tumbly sauce. It was awesome. It looked like it had flubber on it. It was great. I was like, I can't believe this thing went over a stick.

SPEAKER_05 58:26

Yeah, a Robin Williams flubber, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 58:28

I love it.

SPEAKER_01 58:28

It was so good.

SPEAKER_04 58:29

Well done. All right. I mean, that was fun. Uh, we'll have to do it again.

SPEAKER_01 58:34

Anytime. I love it.

SPEAKER_04 58:35

And uh hopefully, Jimbo. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_05 58:38

Hopefully, you'll be a fourth district owner.

SPEAKER_04 58:41

We'll keep politicking.

SPEAKER_01 58:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 58:42

That is another episode of Ice Guardians. Glad you could join us from the Window World Studios brought to you by Seitman Cancer Center. Tony Twist.

SPEAKER_05 58:52

Love you all!

SPEAKER_04 58:53

Jimmy Cenness is twist. Bret Hall signing off.