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Wealth Without Apology: Winning the Money Game in 2026

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 From a teenage jail cell to multi-millionaire entrepreneur—Randy Gage’s story is anything but ordinary.

In this episode, Jen and James sit down with Randy to break down what *real prosperity* actually means—and why so many people unknowingly sabotage their own success.

💡 You’ll learn:
• The 4 pillars of prosperity (it’s way more than just money)
• How “mind viruses” and social conditioning keep people broke
• Why guilt around wealth is holding you back
• The “burn the boats” mindset that separates winners from everyone else
• The truth about financial literacy (and why school didn’t teach you this)

Randy also shares insights from his upcoming book *Wealth Without Apology* and dives into his coaching program, Breakthrough U—designed to help you go from survival to significance.

If you’ve ever felt stuck, conflicted about money, or ready to level up your life—this conversation will challenge the way you think.

Randys Coaching Program
https://randygage.com/breakthroughu/

Preorder Randys Book Here
https://tinyurl.com/48cher58

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On today's episode of the Home Guys Podcast.

SPEAKER_00

I was a teenage alcoholic and drug addict and made my way through junior high school selling dope and then because I'm adding value.

SPEAKER_02

I gotta tell you this. You just said something that I literally preached this to my whole team. Do the right thing, and the money will follow.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't think I deserved to be healthy, happy, and prosperous. Enjoy the show.

SPEAKER_01

All right, everybody. Get ready for this one. Today's guest is going to challenge the way you think about money, success, and what's actually possible in your life. We're excited to be joined by Randy Gage, speaker, Hall of Famer, best-selling author, and known around the world as the entrepreneur whisperer. And his story, it's not your typical business journey. We're talking from a gel jail cell as a teenager to becoming a multimillionaire entrepreneur. For over 30 years, Randy has helped people break through the mental programming that holds them back from prosperity. He's the author of 15 and he just said 16 books, translated into more than 25 languages, including Risky is the new safe, mad genius, and radical rebirth. And has been featured everywhere from Forbes and Fortune to Fox News and Success Magazine. What makes Randy different is simple no fluff, no theory, just bold ideas, powerful stories, and real strategies that push you to think bigger and play at a higher level. So we're super excited to have him as a guest and let's just jump right into it. Thanks, Randy, for being here.

SPEAKER_00

Thanks, Randy. Thanks for bringing me in. Great to be here.

SPEAKER_02

I I have to say, right now, I don't even know if we're qualified to interview you. I don't even know if we need to stop it right now. I mean, we're just a little guy for criminal. And I really do appreciate that because I'm hoping that that'll help us. But man, thank you so much. Uh after I like I told you, I do not look at the prep ahead of time. She sends me an email, but it has all this information on it. But he doesn't read it. Randy, um my uh background was I was a firefighter, and then all of a sudden I fell into flipping houses, but you know what I'm really good at? I'm really good at with people, and that's where for sales and everything, and that's uh that's why I like doing these podcasts, you know. I can really think of and I can mesh with a lot of different people, um, even though that um, you know, I I always say I was just a firefighter, but yeah, I mean I I like to mesh with a lot of people, so which is which is pretty cool. So again, welcome, Randy. Yeah, it's great to be on with you guys.

SPEAKER_01

Um I'm curious about your story. From the intro, it says from a jail cell as a teenager, and now you're writing books and speaking. How what was that journey?

SPEAKER_00

Uh what was that journey? Well, that journey was making a lot of poor choices at an early age, right?

SPEAKER_01

And but you learned from them, so oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I was a teenage alcoholic and drug addict and made my way through junior high school selling dope and then uh entrepreneur right there.

SPEAKER_02

Say again that was an entrepreneur right there.

SPEAKER_00

I was I still to this day credit my entrepreneurial success to lessons I learned doing just that.

SPEAKER_02

We got a good friend. Uh, I'm not even gonna say where he's at because it'll pen it down even more. But he uh same way, he'll tell the story of how he started selling drugs, and then like I went legit and started buying houses and selling houses.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, then he yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I started that way and uh became an entrepreneur. And uh today my mission is how do we make the world more prosperous, right? How do we do that? And I just feel like we don't do that with charity and entitlement programs, we do that by empowering people and lifting them up and raising their prosperity consciousness. So that's yeah, whether it's my podcast, my books, my entrepreneurial coaching program, really all of my work today is based on that, with the idea that hey, if I do that, the money thing takes care of itself anyway, because I'm adding value.

SPEAKER_02

I gotta tell you this. You just said something that I literally preach this to my whole team. Do the right thing, and the money will follow. If you always do the right thing, the money will follow, and empowering people to it, it's that's such a great fit.

SPEAKER_01

And it's how we try to run our business is to give people the skills, empower them, and then, like you just said, everything else will fall into place.

SPEAKER_02

Sorry, Rain. I get excited when somebody uh when I hear somebody else say something that I do, and I don't know where I got it, I don't know where it happens, the stuff just comes to me at different times, and I get super excited. I did that uh last you last week too from somebody, and I just I'm like, it's it's it it when everybody starts believing that everything changes then, and that's what we need.

SPEAKER_00

We need everybody, everybody starts believing that everything changes 100%. And that's as I was telling you before the mics went hot, it literally like an hour ago, I got the the the DM that said, Hey, your new book is live for pre-order on Amazon, and even though this is my 16th book, but I feel more excited than even my first one because it's a really different take. The title is called Wealth Without Apology.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna go buy it right now.

SPEAKER_00

Just so all right, good. I need the money. Buy two. So wealth without apology, which is not how it started out, right? The the working concept, as I was uh outlining it, was I was gonna call the the work, it wasn't the title, but the working title was the prosperity bible. Like this is gonna be the textbook on prosperity. But as I was really getting into the deep work and the chapters and what it takes to manifest prosperity in all areas health, wellness, relationships, money, all of that. There's so much guilt involved, there's so much programming involved that you've been brainwashed that money is bad and it's spiritual to be poor or it's noble to be poor, rich people are evil, every show, every movie, every social media thing is, I mean, what's the big movement today? Billionaires shouldn't exist, right? It's like legal, they they literally want to, I don't know if they want to kill all the billionaires or they just want to steal all their money. And but if we took all of the money from every billionaire on earth and we gave it to the poorest 2% of people on earth, and you came back 12 or 18 months later, the money's gonna be right back where it started. Because the people who are billionaires, they became billionaires by developing consciousness. So saying, how do I solve problems? How do I add value? Right? And they're made to feel but they're made to feel guilty about that, right? And so, like for me, I just found that starting off as in a jail cell where I did, and single mom raising three kids by herself, knocking on doors, selling Avon. When I started to be successful, I felt guilty. I didn't know it, it was at a subconscious level, but I kept sabotaging myself. And writing this new book really got that whole process of programming to the surface. And um and that's your last book, right? Yeah, that's the newest one.

SPEAKER_02

I'm definitely gonna download that. You 100% said exactly what's happening to me, probably right now. And I didn't even realize it is I don't know what to do with success now because my I've lived in chaos my whole life, and my body wakes up in the morning and wants to start more chaos, but there is nothing to start. You know, I got a good marriage, I don't have a drug problem, I don't have a drinking problem. I I you know, it's like my body for the first time it's got calm and it's not used to that.

SPEAKER_00

It's people, there's so many people in that place, James, where they don't, again, they can't even quantify it because it's all subconscious subliminal programming. Like for me, I was out there because I get a second chance, right? I get a judge, I get a public defender, I get people who say, hey, let's give this kid another chance. Instead of just institutionalizing him for 30 years or 20 years, give him a chance to redeem himself, right? So in Wisconsin at that point, if you were uh uh got on what they called supervision, which would be probation, and you stayed clean until you were 18, you had a clear record. You could go and apply for a job and say you'd never been convicted of a felony or anything like that. They expunge your record. So I had this new chance, and so I'm out there getting after it, doing things, launching businesses, trying, and then I would blow it all up. And it's because I didn't think I deserved to be healthy, happy, and prosperous.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely, yeah. Like I think James kind of hit a nerve with that with you. I know he's been struggling with that. And and yeah, when you when you don't grow up with it or you don't grow up, you know, and in that mindset, then you don't know what to do with it. Um, but I I liked what you said and you kind of touched on a little bit. Um, you know, most people when they think prosperity, they think money, but it's actually a lot deeper than that. Um, it it can it's not necessarily just money, like you said, it was relationships, um, it can be any aspect of your life.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, in the book, I I scope out four quadrants that I think is what makes up prosperity. And money and material things are actually just part of one quadrant, which is resources.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. And then the rest, what are the other four? Or the other okay.

SPEAKER_00

Second quadrant is health and wellness. Okay, third quadrant is call it spiritual harmony, meaning just peace of mind. For some people it's religious, other people it's secular, other people it's spiritual, but I mean you're comfortable in your own skin, you have clarity, you're happy, you're contributing, you have great relationships, things like that. And then the fourth quadrant, uh, I titled significance, because I think once you really start to make it, you want to make the jump from success to significance. You want to know, like, okay, the world's a little bit better. I I altered the trajectory of the universe, even if it's just by a millimeter, because I was alive. Because at some point you just say, okay, great, I can fly private. I've got three homes, I've got all the cars, I got all the bling bling. What's next? If if you if okay, great, you got a Gulf Stream, but if nobody wants to fly with you, what's the point? Okay, great, you're making 33 million dollars this year, but your spouse hates you. What's the point? You want to know, like, hey, can I be part of something bigger than myself? Can I leave this world better because I was here?

SPEAKER_02

I love that. How long have you had this philosophy? Because I like to think that, you know, I just turned 51 and I'm becoming more wise as I get older, but I just I feel like it all of a sudden starts to hit you. You're like, wait a minute. Uh I I know that I'm normally, you know, up here all the time. And how do I all of a sudden be down here and not just at a normal level? And it sounds you seem like that again here in your success in your business, but there had to be a turning point. You know, was there a certain age you hit where you're like, okay, this is how I have to believe because if I want to live longer, I can't be up here all the time.

SPEAKER_00

The when I was 30, I had my business seized by the IRS and they auctioned it off at the courthouse.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, jeez.

SPEAKER_00

And that left me$55,000 of payroll tax debt. Can't file bankruptcy, you can't get it. It's just a clock is ticking with interest all day, every day. It's cheaper to borrow money from the mob than it is to owe money to the government, right? So that was a turning point for me for sure. Um, because I had done that once before, but like when you're 18 or 19 years old and you sell all your furniture and you're sleeping on the floor, it's kind of romantic, right? When you're 30, that ain't romantic anymore. I don't have that same effect. Hey, I just moved out of my parents.

SPEAKER_02

I'm sleeping on the floor, I'm out of my parents' house.

SPEAKER_00

I literally had to sell everything and was literally sleeping on the floor. No TV, no sofa, no bed, no end tables, no dining table, nothing. And I just realized, okay, I keep having these business failures. I've had all these health challenges, had negative 11 negative dysfunctional, toxic relationships in a row. Is there one person who's always at the scene of the crime? And, you know, when I asked that question, it that was a big turning point for me. And then I realized, okay, so I got really into the study of prosperity, the science of prosperity, uh, the magic of thinking big, think and grow rich, uh, prosperity by Charles Fillmore, the science of mind by Ernest Holmes, uh, and really uh been on that path ever since.

SPEAKER_02

And now you're doing your own books and doing the kind of the same.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I'm just bringing this stuff. Like I like to think that I'm able to take the teachings of Charles Fillmore, who co-founded the Unity Church in like 1920s, maybe or something, and Ernest uh Holmes, who was the Science of Mind Church, probably around the same time frame. Um, some of the Napoleon Hill, some of that stuff, and say, okay, how does that work in today's world with the toxic sludge of social media, with the brainwashing of TV and movies and all these mind viruses circulating? How can I take these timeless principles of prosperity and show people how to apply them in today's world? No, I I I love that.

SPEAKER_02

I'll be honest with you, I looked it up and let me make sure that I put it in here right. I put uh wealth without Apology. Apology, wealth without apology on the uh on the audio book.

SPEAKER_00

So I just don't know if it's there yet. No, I haven't even got the contract back from the audio, so it's right now the pre-order for the book, yeah. Yeah, so right now it's just pre-order for the book or the Kindle or the ebook, I guess.

SPEAKER_02

Do you do your own voice when you read your books?

SPEAKER_00

I do because people love it. They that's awesome. They really get after me if I don't do it. So it's you know, it's some work to go in a studio and read the whole book, but yeah, and then I when I can do it, I can throw in like bonus content, you know, like and let me tell you an example. What happened this week to demonstrate this point, right? I love that, yeah. Yeah, so I always do that in my ebooks, but uh in the audiobooks, but I haven't got you know, the audiobook isn't even close to ready for this one yet. No, I'm I'm actually pretty excited, uh, like I said, to watch that.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, do you got another you got a question?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I was gonna say it, you know, kind of jumping back to this mindset and and kind of connected with what James was saying too. Um, do you find or do you think that people are actually more afraid of success than they are of actually failing?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_01

Finding 100.

SPEAKER_00

I not a hundred percent, uh 82.462 percent of the time. Yeah, they because remember, I have a coaching program, right? I have three levels. I have a beginner, an intermediate, and then people who are just crushing it, right? And across all three levels, I'm running into this issue where they are more afraid of success than they are afraid of failure because they don't recognize that underlying programming that they have, and they don't know what to do with it or how to, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, let me let me let me know, Randy, is I think it's kind of similar for myself, is I was the kind of guy that has a plan and then has a backup plan, and then has a backup plan to the backup plan. Okay, and I think I told you I was a firefighter, I had a really great job, everything, and we started this business within six months. I quit my fire gig. And everybody's like, Well, what the hell? I'm like, I gotta burn the boats. I have to burn the boats and I have to move forward. Well, again, I've always been pretty successful, but I always thought maybe having a backup plan to a backup plan to have a backup plan actually hurt me because the second plan is just as good as the first plan, but the first plan is failing, and I just hop right off and jump onto the second plan. And I couldn't, we could not do that. I we went up to her dad and said, Hey, we're starting a uh a flipping business in real estate, and he's like, Do you guys even know what the hell you're doing? Nope.

SPEAKER_01

What do you know about real estate? We're like, nothing, we'll figure it out. And well, and that's like he talked about like that was the first time we both just all eggs in one basket. Here we go, and let's see what happens. Because I always had the you know, corporate W-2, and he got to run around and and kind of his entrepreneur brain could try all the different things. Um, but we always had at least a steady, somebody had the insurance, and somebody this was the first time that we both dove into this and took that leap of faith.

SPEAKER_02

We're we're uh employable now because of our knowledge and all the stuff that we have, but you know, our first two years, three years, boy, if that didn't work out, we were done. But we had to have that mentality of burn the boats, uh, and don't worry about the second plan. So now I don't something I've been teaching our daughter is always have a backup plan. And now sometimes I'm like, am I telling her the right thing?

SPEAKER_00

So here's my take on that. You know, I don't know. Here's my take. I don't know either. I I know for me the backup plan doesn't work. I'm roll the dice. If I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do it. And I'm not afraid to pivot, I'm not afraid to make mistakes, right? I literally, maybe two hours ago, I was doing the monthly coaching that I do for my alchemy level members, which is the middle level of my coaching program. And one of the things I was telling them that I feel like in this group, we have too many people too focused on the perfect model of success, and we're not taking enough risks because I don't hear people coming with failures, and I think we need more of that. And they all looked at me like I'm kind of like I'm eating spiders, you know. Yeah, and I but I've like so I've been a professional speaker since 1991 and written the books, and so I do public seminars and I've done a few versions of my coaching program and special events, and I probably had 25 seminars that never took off. That I just put it up made a or a coaching program or a six-week uh action step thing or this or that, and I put it up for sale, and the market was like, yeah, and I sold a few, and I just canceled them. And I say, hey, I'm sending your deposit back. I was a program I envisioned doing, and but I don't see the market response there, so I'm not gonna go ahead with it. And people are afraid to do that. Don't be afraid to do that, it didn't work. And then I have things that I canceled because they didn't, I feel like I was just ahead of the market. And then I five years later, I rolled it out and it was hugely successful. So I'm a big believer of hey, I'm psychologically unemployable. Right? If you give me a job, one of us is gonna end up dead. And I don't know which one, but is I'm gonna kill you, or you're gonna kill me. So we better not do that. I need to be an entrepreneur, right? I'm a burn the boats guy. Like, okay. Uh for years. I mean, my mom used to, every week I would call her, and at some point in the call, she'd say, Have you ever given any thought to get in a real job? And you know, even when I was so wildly successful, I was the most successful person my family had ever seen, right? But to her, it was security is having a paycheck on Friday. How can Randy be secure if there's nobody to guarantee his paycheck every Friday? Right. It's a just a different mindset. But I don't want to tell people that that's the path for them, because it may not be, right? Everybody, everybody wants to be an entrepreneur. Everybody listens to the Gary V podcast and they all want to be an uh entrepreneur now, or they watch Mr. Beast and they want to be an influencer, and they may not have the personality for that. They may be better with a W-2 form and whatever. Um, but find out, experiment. We're at a place in the world today where you really don't have to quit your job. You can start a side gig, see where it goes, and nurture it along, right? And um, but so for me, I'm kind of the burn the boats guy like you are, but uh I know that I had to learn that. Well, not everybody, that's not right for everybody, right? For other people, different personality types, they're gonna go crazy with the anxiety. I owned a hair styling salon, one of my businesses.

SPEAKER_02

All right, I'm just gonna elephant in the room. Yeah, it's really rare when a guy that owns a hairstyling business doesn't have any hair.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so first of all, why would a guy who owns a hair styling salon need any hair? Okay, true. Because I don't need to be a customer, I open it as a business to make other people need it, right? That's the whole point, right? It's not what you want, it's what your customers want, right? But literally in the hair styling business, you make 60% of your income on Friday and Saturday, right? That's all the women get their hair done for the weekend, and uh all the little old ladies get their wash and set and all that stuff. So every Friday's payday, and I did the same thing every week. I gave all my employees their paycheck and said, now you know you cannot go to the bank and cash this because the money is not there. Go to the liquor store, go to the supermarket, or wait till Monday. I need the sales from today and tomorrow to cover the payroll. That I was in that situation for six months, right? That's what real entrepreneurship is.

SPEAKER_02

You're right, because that's that's rolling the dice. You don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and not everybody's gonna do well with that, right? I had the that didn't, I to me, I was okay with it. But for some people, that would make them insane, right? And they should have a job and do the side gig thing and let the side gig thing develop, right? Right.

SPEAKER_02

That's yeah. So you you said something in before about failure, and that we as humans, I'm just gonna I'm thinking back. We grew up, you didn't want to fail, right? I mean, uh, Gen X, boomers. Um, I think we finally started letting the next generation go ahead and fall. It's okay, right? It's okay, it's starting that's when it finally started coming out. How do you get that? I mean, again, 51. I'm starting to realize it's okay to fail because as long as you learn off of your failures, it's okay. It's if you do the same thing, what that's the definition of an insanity, right? Because you're expecting something different.

SPEAKER_00

Twitter did not start off as Twitter, Facebook did not start off as Facebook. They were pivots. Uber was a pivot. There were all kinds of pivots of huge multi-billion dollar companies we'd look at, but a lot of them that's not where they started. They started with uh Twitter was a micro, it was a blogging platform in essence, and then it turned into social media as what we know it today, and then morphed into X as we know it today. But that was pivots along the way. And as long as you're willing to learn and pivot, then what's the problem?

SPEAKER_02

I don't you you're my um I don't I don't know. You've already said like three or four things again. That's another word I use all the time is pivot. Um, and I'm really liking that, you know, where you've been in your life and and and millionaire, whatnot. I mean, I'm I'm thinking hoping these some of these traits are the same for myself.

SPEAKER_00

They're universal, they're universal, they really are. That's why I I'm so excited about the new book because I think I'm gonna introduce a whole new. It's funny, like one of the uh I have like six or eight people that when I write a book, I ask them, hey, can I send you a draft? You steel man it, check it out, tell me where I'm crazy, tell me what confused you, how it could be better, whatever. And so one of them is my buddy Bill Backrack. Bill is like the ultimate financial planner guru for financial planners. He shows them how to build their business. He reads chapter one and he sends me a thing. Oh my God, we have to get this book in the hands of every high school graduate, every college. It's not too early. I'm like, wow. And then he's I'm like, he says, I don't even think 12 years old is too young for this. Oh wow. Well, Bill, you know, I do drop a few F-bombs. So as long as somebody's, you know, okay with that, he's like, I don't care. They get that. Then the next he reads chapter two and he writes me and says, I'm going to tell my financial planners they have to buy this book in lots of a hundred and tell their clients that they won't work with them unless they read this book. Oh, wow. Because they got to learn how to win the money game. They have to change their thinking. Right. And so, and and that's what it's really uh, you know, that's why I'm so excited about this book because I just think there's so many people that there's a whole group of banks, financial planners, stock markets, marketers, the banking system. They're all set up a game that you don't know the rules to. They change the rules all the time, and they need to keep you broke and dependent on them. Right? When your credit card company says, hey, you owe$8,000, but just send us$111 minimum payment, because we're nice guys, you're nice guys, you know.

SPEAKER_02

For the next 500 years. It'll be fine.

SPEAKER_00

It's literally, if you want to know the math, it's 40 to 42 years if you pay the minimum balance on a credit card. And they're charging people 30% interest. 29, 30, 30. It's crazy, right? You gotta learn that. So you have people like putting money in savings accounts that get 2% interest, and then they're charging money on a credit card that's charging them 30% interest, and they're just getting more upside down every year, right? So we gotta get the message out there on here's what here's how to play and win the money game, which is literally one of the chapters in the new book.

SPEAKER_02

No, I I really again I'm so excited. It's I I'm I'm really I'm gonna say it, I'm gonna put it up there hopefully with Rich Dad Porad, because that's uh because when you're when you said your guy uh said he wanted to go through the high school, that's that's my thing that I do is um for high school when you graduate high school, is I'll give you a hundred bucks, but I have to I give you the book first. And if you don't, I'm gonna come back in a month, and for you to get that hundred dollars, you have to we have to talk about the book.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I love Kiyosaki's book. It was, you know, when I first read it, it was worthless to me because he's talking about how to put assets to work for you in this quadrant. And I'm like, I just need to know how to pay my freaking electric bill.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I don't have any assets.

SPEAKER_00

So now I can look back at Robert's book and say, that's a great book, that's very valuable to people. And I think my book is the one they should read before his book. Oh, okay. Because then they're gonna know how to win the money game, they're gonna know how to create residual income, and then Robert can show them how to put that money to work. But I, you know, at the end of the day, here's the most powerful financial philosophy you can ever learn. You work for money, or your money works for you. Period. Which one is it? Okay, if you work for money, you will always be working for money, you will always be broke, you're never gonna apply leverage. If your money is working for you, you will wake up every day for the rest of your life wealthier than you were when you went to sleep the night before. Right. Which one is better? You know, that's the name, you're right. So that's where we got to start. We got to get people and literally, 12-year-old and 12-year-olds have heard the F-bomb before. Okay, my book is not the first time they're gonna hear that, and it's not the last time, but my book will wake them up to the reality of it. You know, here is how the game is stacked against you, and here's how you can do a little jujitsu and win.

SPEAKER_02

Why can't our public schools why aren't our public schools teaching us this?

SPEAKER_01

You know, they're not even teaching kids how to do uh how to operate a I I feel like that's a whole nother conversation.

SPEAKER_02

I know, but I mean because you said this should be read by you know these 12-year-olds, and our daughter took a a class in I want to say eighth or seventh or eighth grade.

SPEAKER_01

That was it was an elective, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And she took it. I mean it was elective for her, and she's like, Hey, do you pay insurance? Oh, I didn't know that. Hey, do you pay insurance for the house? Oh, yeah, you know, you learn all of this stuff. These kids are getting out of high school right now, they don't know. They they can operate my iPhone all day long and figure it out, but they could not have write a uh checkbook, you know. Um, we had a we actually have a guy that works for us.

SPEAKER_01

We we kind of still tease him a little bit, but he had to deliver uh write a deliver a piece of mail and uh someone wanted us to mail them our brochure, and he had no clue. He didn't know how to fill out the envelope, right? Oh, I believe he came to me and he asked, and he's like, Now, where does the stamp go? Down here, up here. I'm like, What what are you I don't understand the words coming out of your mouth? What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00

Right, because people have they really don't know. It's like I was coaching a speaker and and working on his keynote speech for him, and he's saying, and so what you got to do when you're waiting in line at the post office or the bank, you and I told him his name's John. I'm like, John, do you understand that anybody under the age of 40 years old has never been in a post office? They don't even know what you're talking about. No, do you realize anybody under 30 years old has never been in a bank? They have a cash app on their phone or they have a Venmo, they have a PayPal. They don't, they haven't, they haven't been in a bank. Like me, I haven't been in a bank in 15 years.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_00

Maybe 20. And that's back when I did like a mortgage through my bank or something. Otherwise, I mean, I everything's electronic for me, everything's on my laptop. Um, kids today, I mean, they don't so it's a double-edged lesson. One, they don't know the money stuff, but yeah, they don't know the real life skills stuff either. And that's what we where we have to help them.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, Randy, this is yeah, I was gonna say this at the time that no, you mean okay. One of us was gonna say, you know, we're we're kind of creeping up on time here, but um, yeah, this has been amazing. You've uh just a great conversation. Um, wealth without apology. Um, it is when does that officially come out on audio?

SPEAKER_00

Because that April 28th is the release date.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, you can pre-order it now. Um do we want to push this one out a little bit? Or I would love to push this out and then push it a little bit closer so we can get some.

SPEAKER_00

No, if you get it out on the next week, like you were talking, that's great because I I want I my vision is I need to have 15,000 copies pre-ordered by the release date, which is gonna create enough buzz, enough in the algorithms at Amazon to get cross-promoted and linked, and then to really do the the rebellion that I want to create in the world.

SPEAKER_01

There you go. So, everybody, you heard it. Go pre-order. Pre-order it.

SPEAKER_02

That's um, it's it's gonna be a must, and I really want to showcase that um because I want to read it and then you know, okay, I'm gonna listen to it. Um and uh that way I can.

SPEAKER_01

We'll get copies. We're we're gonna go on and and pre-order some copies for our uh maybe even for our team. We'll get everybody a copy of the book.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, um, two minutes. Uh pitch your um your your coaching. What do you want to do?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that what does that look like? I was gonna ask about that. Like, what does the coaching program look like?

SPEAKER_00

It's like nothing else in the world, it's a mastermind group coaching program, entrepreneurial accelerator program, all in one, um, three levels. So, like for people just like, I can't even pay the rent. I need to know how to get money, how to that would be the beginning level. The middle level, the alchemy level is for people who are getting after it. They're entrepreneurs, solopreneurs, they're out there, they're moving up in the corporate world, but they're just kind of stuck. They can't break that million-dollar a year barrier for whatever reason. And then the third level is for people who they got money, it's really going on for them. I have people join that program just because they want to, now they want to get into philanthropy and the significance stuff. I have people at that level who join because they, you know, their kids don't couldn't pick them out of a police lineup because, you know, some of them I have to teach them how to take a day off because they haven't had a day off in 27 years, or I have to teach them how to go two hours without a phone in their hand. Um, right. So I have to teach them the holistic part of prosperity, but it's really all about transformation. It's by the way, you two are like the poster boy and girl for that program. So that's your homework I'm gonna assign you when you get done is go to my website and click the link that says break through you. That's the name of that program, and check it out because I think it's got your names all over it. Um, but for anybody, yeah. It's really for anyone being who wants transformation, but I do skew it more to entrepreneurs just because my personal bias is I think it's easier to become wealthy as an entrepreneur than it is as an employee. Amen. All right, so that's all at randy. Yeah, that's at randygage.com. Hopefully, you can put it in the show notes. But randygage.com, you'll see on the homepage there's a link for Breakthrough You. And then, of course, Wealth Without Apology, pre-order now on Amazon.com. Awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Amazing. Thank you so much, Randy. This has been great. And Brady will definitely link, put the links in there. He's our content guy behind the scenes here. So um, we'll put all of that information and thank you so much. This is this has been a great conversation. We appreciate it.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

All right, thanks for bringing me in.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, thanks, Randy.