Big 12 Schools Discuss Texas Tech Boycott After Judge Rules Sorsby Can Play; B12 ADs Unleash on Tech

Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Sorsby has been granted a temporary injunction that clears the way for him to play this season after serving a two-game suspension, despite allegations that he bet on his own team dozens of times during his college career.

The ruling has sparked an extraordinary backlash across college football. Big 12 athletic directors have reportedly discussed whether their schools should even take the field against Texas Tech, while K-State AD Gene Taylor publicly called the situation “BS.” Georgia AD Josh Brooks also raised the possibility of schools refusing to play the Red Raiders in any sport.

What does Brett Yormark do now? Could the Big 12 punish Texas Tech? Will this accelerate the push for the Protect College Sports Act, collective bargaining or a complete restructuring of college athletics?

John Kurtz breaks down why this ruling could become a landmark moment in the history of college sports, how Texas Tech became college football’s newest villain and why every Red Raiders road game will now feel like a street fight.

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Chapters
00:00 Brendan Sorsby ruling sends shockwaves through college football
03:44 Why the temporary injunction is such a massive deal
06:51 The allegations against Sorsby and the integrity of the sport
14:44 Texas Tech is about to become college football’s ultimate villain
25:56 Big 12 ADs discuss whether to play Texas Tech
29:52 Could Brett Yormark and the Big 12 punish the Red Raiders?
35:07 Coaches and athletic directors react across college football
53:34 Could this force a complete restructuring of college sports?

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Transcript

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As wild a college sports day as we have had, and that is saying something because there is some landmark decision, some crazy zany thing happening seemingly every single day in college sports and in college football lately. But man, Brendan Soresby declared eligible in essence as he gets the temporary injunction from a local judge to be able to play. He can practice, he can play. Uh, two-game suspension is all he will have to serve because that was suggested by his legal team. It's insanity, man. Uh, this is an insane ruling on so many levels. It has such a wide-reaching, wide-ranging impact. The scope of this is crazy, how deep this is going to go, how many different offshoots there are going to be to this and because of this. And you even have the Big 12 basically threatening a boycott of Texas Tech right now. If you're to believe some of the quotes coming from ADs who are unloading on Texas Tech, ADs and coaches, both anonymously and not anonymously. We've got a couple Big 12 ADs who said, screw it, I'm just going to put my name on these quotes. Like, people are furious about this. And you know what? Rightfully so. This is not going to be a show tonight to like rail on Texas Tech fans. I understand why some tech fans will be taking a victory lap here. I understand why tech fans would be thinking more with their heart than their head on this. I totally get it. I'm not here to shame you. But this is an asinine ruling. So we're going to talk about it. I will get to the quotes from Big 1280s who are talking about not even playing Texas Tech. I don't know what Bright Yormark's going to do. He did release a statement. Uh, we can talk about that. And this might be the thing that's the tipping point into making sure the Protect College Sports Act happens, or perhaps even collective bargaining. That's now being brought up ad nauseum and on the table once again with this. So I will just say this I have never seen the entire college sports world this united about something. Texas Tech fans make up a decent chunk of my timeline. So it doesn't totally look like that, but everybody else, everybody outside of Lubbock, everybody. Even I've had tech fans emailing me after I sent out my newsletter saying, hey, I actually agree with you on this. Everybody seems against this. This is crossing a bridge that you should not be crossing to allow somebody to bet that much on his own team and still be able to play that easily. But we'll talk about it. It's going to be crazy. Pace and Cougar fan, Bram, MVP, Ian, everybody who's here. I appreciate you. Welcome in. It is the Open for Business Big 12 podcast. I am your host, John Kurtz. This is where the Big 12 just means more. Please do like the video and subscribe as you file in, those listening on audio. This is an impromptu live show. I know I told you uh when I was doing my Sunday show, like, hey, probably not going to be a midweek live. You can't that they dropped the news just in time. I'm leaving for Colorado tomorrow, but since I'm still here, made it through the workday, and I'm going to give you a live show and an instant reaction uh off the rip on all this because this is obviously big enough. So fill up the chat. Fill up the chat. If you want to guarantee that your voice is heard tonight, you can drop me a super chat by clicking the dollar sign below the chat box. You can also hit me up on Venmo at John-Gertz-4. If you are so inclined, I will get to it on the next live show if you do that. But that's another way to support and leave a question or comment. Make sure you're signed up for the Open for Business Big 12 newsletter as well at OFBnews.com. Those of you who are already got a little bit of a taste of my instant reaction to this. So those are great ways to support. Thank you to everybody who is here. Let's let's get cracking. Let's talk about this, okay? So Brendan Soresby got the injunction that he needed from a local Texas judge. Now, I will clarify, I'm going to try and clarify some things here because I want to be as fair as I can to tech fans. Not a tech grad, right? The tech grad judge recused himself. Can you imagine this story had that not happened and he were the one making the ruling? This is a guy that uh has a Houston law degree, okay? So no Texas Tech, no Texas Tech there. But everybody is still shocked by this. Absolutely shocked. And the reasoning, Judge Ken Curry, the Houston law graduate, is the one who granted an injunction here. So it doesn't mean that he's like totally ruling against the NCAA, but he's saying the NCAA right now cannot enforce punishment for gambling onto Brendan Soresby. And the date on an actual appeal trial being held is right now February 8th. So unless something changes, like Sorsby's gonna play the whole season before they adjudicate any of this further. That's why this is such a massive deal right now. As for the reasoning behind this, Judge Ken Curry said Soresby would suffer, quote, probable, imminent, and irreparable injury if he were not allowed to play for the Red Raiders this year. And of course, the argument that was made by Soresby's legal team was basically painting him as a sympathetic figure, like, hey, he's got this diagnosed disorder with the gambling addiction, and it's going to cause him irreparable harm if you don't allow him to play football this year. Now, this is where, look, I have no law degree. I am not trying to tell you I have any legal expertise at all, but the idea that this would be irreparable harm to Brendan Soresby if he were not able to play at Texas Tech this year is so bogus. It's so bogus on multiple levels. Let's start with I don't agree that it's irreparable damage at all. Okay. Take the consequences of your own actions part out of it, which is another huge part. But I don't agree this is irreparable harm. He would have gone to the supplemental draft and he would have been taken and he would have an NFL career. He would have a shot at an NFL career. Like he, guys, he was projected to play his way into a first-round draft slot next year. The NFL is not going to take a chance on him. Have we seen the things the NFL has let slide? Like, give me a break. He would have had an NFL career. This is not irreparable damage. This is consequences of your actions. So I mean, I disagree with that premise on its face. But then deeper than that, and this is where, like, you know, tech fans, again, I'm not, I'm not here to shame you guys, but I know what the vibe of the tech fan base is. You guys are tough SOBs, man. You're very responsible for yourselves and your own actions. The pull yourself up by your bootstraps, kind of a crowd, and you do it well. You got to be responsible for your actions. The rules were the rules. You knew what they were. And Brendan Soresby bet 40 times on his own team well under age when it was illegal. 40 times well underage on his own team while it was illegal. He sent 65 grand across state lines to have other people place bets in other states for him when he came to a state where he couldn't bet anymore. There should be some consequences for that. And it should not be a two-game suspension. Like what that cannot be the case here. There are consequences to your actions. And so that's my other reaction to the judgment here is just like, what on earth, man? Like, what are we doing with that? Like, we can't, we it's not okay for him to have some legitimate consequences to that action, and then he will still have a professional football career. And oh, by the way, the the real true sanctity of this is that if you just go down this road, man, if you go down this road of allowing someone to bet on their own team, and I've heard people say, well, he was just betting on them to win. What does that matter? Well, what happens when you bet on your team to win a couple of times and then your team actually loses and now you're in the hole some money? Well, it might be a little more tempting now to bet on your team to lose and try and do something to make that happen, right? You see why this is a slippery slope. It's I I I didn't I only saw that argument a little bit, but it's like, guys, can we just can we use our heads and like think through this that like you can't you can't open that door? I mean, there are people, I see people every weekend on Twitter during the NFL season saying, oh, it's rigged for Mahomes. You know, you already have people thinking that. You can't open that door in college football now and have any thought or idea that some of this isn't legit and that guys are on the take here. Like you, you just you cannot do that. That's a slippery slope to the WWE. And as much as I talk about Super League being an existential threat to college football, that's why this is 100% an existential threat to college football, if this is allowed to stand. And I guess I get for the the judge's part in this, he's just saying, I'm putting an injunction on this so that the NCAA can't enforce for now, and then we'll get to the bottom of it later. That's theoretically illegally what it means. But when February 8th is then the trial after the NCAA appeals, well, this in effect, the consequence of your action as a judge then is that Soresby will be allowed to play. And now, if you are a college kid out there, you're gonna look at it and say, all I've got to do, if I get caught, like I'll bet on my team, if I get popped, I just got to find the right local judge. He'll put an injunction on it. We'll wait through the season, I'll get to play. And by the time they go to figure out whether or not like there's anything that should have actually happened here, it doesn't matter. I'll be long gone. I'll be in the NFL, I'll have made my $4 million. Saw that today that Soresby's reported deal was $4 million. Matt Hayes had that. I'll make my $4 million and I'm out. Doesn't matter. That's that's the precedent you're setting here, and that's the real issue. And if you start having that pop up all over the place, that will kill TV ratings. If you, if people are questioning the integrity of the game, that will kill TV ratings faster than a super league will. Everything I have been talking about the last few weeks about a super league, that will torpedo it all. That will torpedo TV ratings and ruin this whole thing for everybody. So that's why you have people so furious across college athletics right now. I think rightfully so. You got to think bigger than just this one instance. And again, for Texas Tech's part in it, you know, Kirby Hokutt, Texas Tech Athletic Director, put out a statement earlier today that said basically, like, we this is what we thought. It didn't warrant a season-long suspension. And Joey McGuire sent a text to, I don't remember which reporter it was, but said basically, like, this is huge. Cody Campbell said, Hey, it's unfortunate we have a broken system, but we're just trying to play within the rules of the broken system. You know, I mean, like, I get all that. You're standing by your guy. I'm sure Brendan Sorsby's a great guy. I've heard plenty of great things, but it doesn't matter how great of a guy he is. He committed some pretty heinous actions here that are a part of a box that you cannot open as a sport. And there have to be grave consequences for that. I am sorry. There have to be, and there have been precedents set for the grave consequences of this. I mean, I feel like I'm even taking it a little bit easy on Soresby on what some of these I haven't even mentioned like the totality of the gambling, or that I mean, he was gambling on his own basketball, his men's basketball teams there. And the idea behind that is, well, if you're tight with all the players, which the athletes are gonna be pretty tight with each other, right? And you've got inside info on who's hurt, you know, when they're really juiced up, what you're gonna use that then to bet on it. Like, that's I mean, now we're talking about stuff that should be like like federally illegal. Like, what do you, you know, we that's not you can't do that. This is not good. And he did it a lot at two institutions. This is crazy. It is crazy. It is crazy. And that's why if you're somebody out there as a tech fan, like, well, I mean, come on, man, he's a good dude. And or if you're Texas Tech and Joey Maguire defending him, he's our guy, he's a good dude. This shouldn't be. I'm I'm sorry, you're wrong. You're thinking with your heart and you're defending your guy, and that's fine. And I think there are plenty of people who would do the same thing, but you are incorrect here. You you are incorrect in this instance. Um, that's not for the greater good of anybody, even you, if you're Texas Tech. Is it good for Texas Tech if this opens up that box and we slide down that slippery slope? And then 10 years from now, everyone's like, well, I can't trust the integrity of this game and TV ratings go down. I mean, then there's nothing left for you to conquer. So in the moment, I get how your heart is thinking here and not your head. I know that tech fans have been crapped on for years because they weren't winning, and then when they finally win, you're getting crapped on because people paint you as the poster child for the NIL era, which I think is pretty unfair because tech is just taking advantage of the rules or lack thereof like anybody else, and they're spending the same way an LSU or a Miami or a Texas AM is, but they get vilified for it. Yeah, I think that's BS, and it's stupid, and I understand why you guys have a chip on your shoulder because of it. So I get why you would run around and do have some fun and do some dunking and all that stuff. And some of the memes out there were frankly funny that I enjoyed from from Texas Tech fans and Texas Tech accounts. But Brendan Soresby should not be playing, and there's there's no rational defense for it. And I I just I won't, I would disagree with anything that you're gonna tell me on that front. Um and that's that's just the long and short of it. But it's okay. It's like we can have. I'm not gonna, I'm not hating you for it. I also would make the point that I think think about this. Lane Kiffin and LSU were involved with Brendan Soresby, right? They were going after him. There was even a report that showed like someone freedom of information acted a contract that was offered to Brendan Soresby from LSU. If he were playing for Lane Kiffin right now, do you think Lane Kiffin and LSU would have just sat idly by and said, well, I guess he's just gonna be suspended. No. No, they would have fought this too. They'd be fighting for their guy, they'd be finding the local judge. That governor of Louisiana who wants to always get involved with everything and raise his voice. You'd hey, you'd have him campaigning for Brendan Soresby. Like, there are tons of other schools who would be doing the same thing Texas Tech is. So I don't think it's fair to just use this entire day to like vilify Texas Tech fans here, even if they're somebody who's supporting their guy. Um ultimately, it's not the right thing to do here, but there are a bunch of us who would be in the same position if this were our team and this were our quarterback, like this were our guy, and this were the key to our season, at least the the perceived key to our season. So I do want to make that clear as well. And that's why this is there's a lot of nuance here. There are so many different angles and tentacles to take. We haven't even gotten into yet. Most of the issue of Big 12 ADs talking about like not playing Texas Tech and the crazy quotes that have come out from Big 12 ADs and Big 12 coaches. I want to do that. We haven't talked about like how does this change what the season's actually gonna be for Texas Tech? I mean, if you think Texas Tech was hated across the league before, they roll out Brendan Soresby in play now with him. I mean, Texas Tech is gonna get a road treatment unlike anything almost anybody has ever seen in this conference. You know, I would take it back to the discussions of like Oklahoma and Texas when they were leaving the Big 12, and everybody was like, man, what are those road games gonna be like? What are road games with Texas Tech gonna be like this year, dude? Texas Tech is gonna, there will be TV ratings probably just spiked for tech because the entire country is gonna be hate watching them this year. That September 18th game against Houston now, you got you made a lot of Houston fans today. And yes, I know tech fans. The judge is a Houston grab. Oh, I yes, I get it. A lot of Houston fans today across the country who will be that will be the first game Brendan Soresby plays. A lot of Houston fans that will be uh rooting against Texas Tech there. So that's and that creates a totally different dynamic to your season, right? I mean, I think that throws a wrench into what the season is going to be. It's a real test. We want to talk the actual football dynamics of it. It's a real test for Joey McGuire and company with their culture to make sure that you block out the outside outside noise and keep everybody steady during all that. So that's a whole other discussion here. How about is this exactly what anybody who wanted the Protect College Sports Act really needed to get it through? Because you can now take this to Congress and be like, look, it is completely lawless. We we have no power to enforce anything. You gotta give us some help here. I think that's possible. Is it now that collective bargaining actually turns into a thing? I did see today, Cody Campbell said there are some important distinctions that make collective bargaining not really possible, and that he was writing an op-ed on that. We'll see. But that has become a different part of the discussion here today as well. So we've got some super chats. I will take those. Then I'm gonna get into what Big 12 ADs and coaches are saying right now, and uh and we'll we'll take off from there. And hopefully we have no more blips on the radar courtesy of uh of StreamYard. TM Gel, I'm gonna I see yours. I'm going to um I'm going to use yours last because it will bridge, it's a perfect bridge into the conversation about the uh what the ADs have saying. TM Gell has a super chat about Gene Taylor, K-State's athletic director, who is the one who really put his weight behind some big some big quotes today. Uh let's see. Actually, I say, okay, TMGel's got a couple. I'm gonna read this one first, TM Gel, because it's about the actual case. Uh so TM Gel says NCAA put together a terrible case. If you read the hearing, they said Soresby had no addictions. It seemed like they didn't prepare at all. Well, again, look, I'm not I assume, TM Gel, that you're not a lawyer. I'm not a lawyer either. So to be honest, I think getting in the weeds of a discussion of who had like the more prepared case from a legal standpoint is sort of like the epitome of how ridiculous arguing on the internet is in 2026 where everybody's got a law degree and everybody's got you know congressional experience and every everybody's a political scientist. Like I we don't know, man. We're not lawyers. If you are, correct me, and then I will totally eat my words. If you're a lawyer, you definitely have more of a right to be talking about it than I do. I do not have any business talking about that. So, and if he's got a gambling addiction, that great, take some time off and work on it. You don't need to be playing football, like you got bigger problems, and I don't care if there was an addiction. Like, this is my point. I don't care if there was an addiction. You don't get a free pass for your actions on that. Do we say that about addicts or alcoholics that they get a pass then for the decisions that they made that were breaking rules or breaking the law? No. Like we have sympathy and empathy for them. We try to help them, we try to make them get better, and then they have to deal with the consequences of their lives that came in the wake of what they did while those actions were going on. I there was a great tweet from Tom Fornelli earlier today. Uh, I don't I won't even bother sharing my screen with it, but he said, Tom Frennelli from the cover three podcast, he said, quote, yes, officer, I was speeding, but driving the speed limit makes me sad. And then the next quote is, Well, then we better let you get back to it. I mean, that's basically what happened here. I know you're commenting on the case and the legalities of it, but that's more or less what we did here. It's like, well, he's got mental health issues surrounding this. So despite the decision he made, it's gonna make you really uh it's gonna make him really upset and cause irreparable damage if you punish him for said decision. I mean, come on, man. Come on. Tech fans, I know you guys are personal responsibility. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, people. Come on. You can see that. I know you can see that. I know you can see that, TM Joe. Uh, and I hey, I appreciate the support as always, TM Joe. You're a great supporter of the channel. We're gonna disagree. Um, you came in pretty strong with your other comments. Uh I would prefer if you didn't come in like so emotional toward me when I haven't even I'm I've been pretty respectful, I feel like, to to tech fans throughout this whole process. But hey, we're gonna disagree, and that's okay. I appreciate your support of the channel. Uh J Sue Life, uh, Cincinnati should be placed on probation for knowing about this, to be honest. Well, I mean, based on the ruling today, I don't seem like it would be more likely that Cincinnati gets Brendan Sorsby back for the two first two games of the year to play or something. I mean, that seems like more along the lines of what would happen to Cincinnati based on what the judge's ruling was today. It's this is where I'll point out what we know, what's been reported about what Cincinnati knew is that they got an alert triggered from Prohibit, which is the app that athletes have to sign up for, and it pings the school if they've signed up for a gambling app. That happened since he took Sorsby in. Sorsby claimed that he was stopped from betting because of Prohibit. So they gave him some education on it, and then it was done. That's what's been reported. So we don't know that Cincy knew that he actually was betting, they knew that they got pinged that he had like signed up for an app, and he said that was it. Nothing more to it. He wasn't able to sign up. So I in just in fairness to Cincinnati, I will I will point that out. Uh, let's see. David, what's up, David? David says it makes the tech TCU rivalry a true street fight. I mean, it's gonna make every tech game a true street fight. Like, again, I think tech already had that treatment coming for them. They're the defending champs, they rolled everybody last year. Everybody wanted a piece of tech in the league. But this will just it cranks up that temperature even more, man. You know, if it was already you got the grill turned up to like 550 degrees, now call it like 700, right? You just twisted that knob even further based on what happened for sure. And Josh, Josh, do you think the college football playoff committee will punish Tech? Probably not. I I highly doubt that the committee is where this will get involved. I guess I will say this. You are, because it's a committee and it's um people with their human beings with human emotions and human nature is involved. Perhaps if there's something like kind of on the borderline, if tech is close, maybe this will in the back of their minds make them treat tech a little bit differently. I don't think it would be anything like outwardly. I don't think they're gonna come out and be like like the Jordan Travis thing from a couple of years ago with Florida State and say, hey, we're gonna evaluate you differently because of the Brendan Soresby situation. I don't think it'll be that, but does it make a difference subconsciously in the back of your mind, perhaps, in how you're evaluating them? Maybe. Maybe something to keep in mind, I suppose. Um David says or tortilla fight. Forgiveness is important too. I'm glad, I'm glad you're on uh on top of uh forgiveness there. Hey, tortilla fights can be street fights too, David, because sometimes they have pocket knives in them. Sometimes they have pocket knives in them. All right, let's get to what the Big 12 ADs had to say. Continue with the super chats, though, if you got them. You can click the dollar sign below the chat box to do that. Um, but TMJ, he is hinting at here, not really hinting. He's talking about what Gene Taylor, K-State's athletic director, said and put his name on it, by the way. Um, which I would say you got to at least respect Gene Taylor for that. It was not an anonymous quote. He put his name on some quotes with curse words that I'm gonna have to bleep for you about Texas Tech and this whole situation. Uh TM Gell, well, and actually, in fairness to Gene Taylor, I would say about the situation. I don't think they were really directed toward Texas Tech. It's like about the situation. Uh anyway, TM Gell says, I'm sorry, but your Kansas State AD is exhausting, always complaining about tech. Last year he got your mark to ban tortillas. Okay, I feel like we're mixing things up here, aren't we? Last year he got your mark to ban tortillas. Does it get exhausting being a fan of a school that can't help but cry? Okay, well again, TM Gell, this is where I would ask you like, hey man, I respect you. You're a great supporter of the channel. I feel like I'm pretty damn respectful. You may disagree with my opinion, but I'm pretty respectful. You know, do we do we need to be, do you need to let the emotion come out in a super chat like that? We've known each other for a while here on this channel. Maybe if we could tone down the emotion there, I that I would appreciate it at least. But I feel like you're also mixing, you're crossing signals here, right? Isn't it Kansas? Tortilla Gate was all about Kansas, right? Not K-State. Uh Gene Taylor, to my knowledge, hasn't said anything publicly about uh Texas Tech. In fact, he's really good friends with Joey Maguire. That was a part of this that I was wondering how it was gonna go down is like Gene's Gene's been around for a long time. I am pretty sure he's very good friends with Joey Maguire. And so I'm interested how his comments are gonna go over today because he's got some good relationships there. And then Kirby Hokut, Texas Tech's AD, is a K-State guy. So I would imagine that they have a pretty good relationship too. Uh so I don't know. I'm interested how that will all go over. I also would say that these comments were a little more geared toward the situation as opposed to tech, putting a target on TechSpace specifically, but it is what it is. I'll get to the quotes, and I I only read them once while I was at my day job earlier, so I'm gonna read them live and we'll react to them on air, uh TMGel. But I do think you're confusing Kansas there for K-State. Um, we shall see because here's the article. All right, so it's from Ross Dellinger. The first quote, third paragraph. Uh if a local Texas judge granted Brendan Sorsby's injunction to play this season, despite wagering on his own team, the league's other member schools wondered something aloud. Should we play the Red Raiders? Quote, we've had some serious conversations about it. Kansas State Athletic Director Gene Taylor told Yahoo Sports. There is still a lot to be discussed. We aren't scheduled to play them this year, but it's something we have to look at from a college football perspective. This is greater than the Big 12. So this supposedly dates back to Big 12 spring meetings. Big 12 schools apparently discussed this. If the ruling comes back that Soresby gets the injunction and can play, will we actually play Texas Tech? So Gene Taylor says there have been serious discussions among Big 12 ADs to not play Texas Tech. Now, I did a radio hit earlier on my way home, and someone was asking me, what does Brett Yormark do here? Can they actually will they do something? Will they punish them? Can you actually not play them? Like, look, these are uncharted waters, man. I don't, if you've got the precedent for this, please let me know in the chat right now because I don't think anybody does. I have no idea. Like what's feasible, what you could actually do, what the ramifications of that would be. Would it just be calling Tex bluff and seeing if they would not play him? I don't know. I don't know. Is it is it all just a bunch of huffing and puffing and trying to, you know, trying to puff out your chest and just show show your teeth and get Texas Tech to back off? I don't know. But how about this for a quote, okay? Pardon my French, but quote, it's effing BS, Gene Taylor told Yahoo Sports on Monday. I know the kid has a problem. Well, get well and focus on your problem. It is absolutely devastating for him to be able to play when every other sport, no matter the level, deems an athlete ineligible or they are punished severely for betting on their team. It's FNBS. That's a direct quote from Gene Taylor that he put his name on. And so again, I will ask if you disagree or you don't like these quotes, I would just say at least give Gene Taylor some credit for the fact that he put his name on it. He put his name on it. This was not an anonymous quote. If you're wondering about the candid nature of this and why he's the one doing that, I would point out that I Gene Taylor's pretty close to retirement. He's been open about that. So I think he's an AD in the room who's been around for a while. I know he genuinely hates where college sports is at right now. Uh I have had my frustrations with him running K-State's athletic department, dragging his feet a bit on like NIL above the cap and not wanting to just get on board with what it takes to win in this era. So he's not, you know, his background, in fairness, as a lifelong college administrator, really goes against the grain of what the sport has turned into. He does not like this. If you've followed him on Twitter lately, you have seen he has been specifically outspoken about uh the gambling. I followed him on Twitter. I think there was a tweet there. Maybe it was also just quotes that I'm thinking of. But he is, he really hates the gambling piece of this. He doesn't like how involved gambling is uh in in sports these days. So that's a hot button issue. And it's like everything converges at the center of that with this Brendan Soresby issue. It does not surprise me at all that he feels really strongly about this. And because he is close to retirement, I'm sure he feels like, look, now or never, man, speak now or forever hold your peace. And there are some ADs around here who may have to work with Kirby Hokott and these Texas Tech relationships longer than I do. They can't say this, even if they feel like it. Screw it. I'll go ahead and say it. That would be my guess as to how this went down and why it's Gene Taylor that's coming out and putting his name behind that statement. Um Big 12 athletic directors are going to meet Tuesday. That was that came out in Brett Yormark's um statement that he released earlier. Big 12 presidents are also expected to uh to meet this week. And they do, Ross Dellinger notes, they do have the ability to penalize conference members for actions detrimental to the conference. So there could be some kind of punishment levied here by Brett Yormark. But oh man, if you start to start to think about where this is gonna go, if Brett Yormark punishes Texas Tech for this, I don't know what it would be. I don't know if it would be ineligible for the championship game. I don't know if it's a suspension. I can you suspend Soresby? I don't know what you could do. If you're punishing Texas Tech somehow for this, it will just be, I mean, it's gonna be World War III on Twitter, man. Uh, you've already had Texas Tech fans getting so upset about the tortillas incident. Thank you, TM Gel, for bringing that back to the forefront. Tech fans were already that upset about that. Then there was the whole news cycle we went through about the Houston game being played on a Friday. If now you're not gonna let Soresby play, or you're gonna punish Tech for playing Soresby or whatever, like that's gonna be wild. And then where does that relationship go? And that's why this is tricky for Brett Yormark. Texas Tech is the most nationally relevant brand right now for the Big 12. Uh for some of the wrong reasons, but plenty of the right reasons. And can you afford to have that kind of a relationship with that school here? These are all things that have to be weighed right now. This is it, I will be fascinated, to be completely honest, at how they handle this. Um if you want further quotes here, what uh what are others in the Big 12 saying? Uh, even outside of the Big 12, according to Dellinger, high-level college administrators say they are left aghast by a decision that many describe as, quote, disastrous and quote, jarring. And as the NCAA statement said, quote, corrupts the integrity of sports. I agree with them there. I don't disagree on any of those points. Uh, Georgia athletic director Josh Brooks, he put his name on a quote to Ross Dellinger here. Quote, I think there needs to be serious conversations about not playing Texas Tech in any sports. This is not about Texas Tech, it's about protecting our own locker room. We cannot, in good conscience, put our student athletes on a field where the competitive integrity of the contest is compromised and overridden by the courts. If a state wants to dictate eligibility rules, they can play themselves. All FBS schools should only take the field against programs operating under a uniform, trustworthy standard of fairness. We've officially reached the point of no return. Now, I get how you would hear that and say that that comes across a little bit. Look, at least Gene Taylor was just like, hey man, this is BS. Talks to you kind of just like a guy you'd be having a beer with, and that's by the way, who Gene Taylor is. Great dude to have a beer with. Um Josh Brooks at Georgia is a little more like he that comes across to me like the remember, um, I want to call him R. E. Gold. I don't remember what his name is in old school, but Jeremy Pivens character in old school, where he's like the, you know, kind of pencil pushing dean of the school who's real nerdy and stuff, like it kind of comes across a little bit like that. But uh some of the sentiment you might have people that say this, like, hey, if we let this pass, then this is sliding down the road to becoming the WWE and it puts everything in jeopardy and in danger. Okay. This is where I think you have to be clear about the distinction. This is not about Brendan Sorsby specifically, it's about the precedent that it sets and where this goes after that. Okay. I don't think Brendan Sorsby being on the field. I like I don't think Brendan Soresby will be out there this year throwing games. Okay. Like I'm not, that's not what I'm saying. But it's about if you let this go, then you have opened that door for the next guy to do something else that might push it a little further, and then the next guy who might push it a little further, and then the next guy, and then by the time you get there, it's too late. And that's that's really what's at issue here. Here's a Big 12 AD who requested anonymity to Ross Dellinger, uh called today the lowest point in my time in college sports, and said Texas Tech should be ashamed of itself. So, again, for those of you tech fans upset with Gene Taylor, here is an anonymous AD who did not have the balls to put his name behind a quote, who said Texas Tech should be ashamed of itself. Gene Taylor did not say that. Okay. The anonymous AD is the one that said Texas Tech should be ashamed of itself. Utah Athletic Director Mark Harlan said the decision left him disheartened. Tom Mars, okay, here's a here's an important quote about this too. Tom Mars, who is the attorney who represented Jerome Tang or is representing Jerome Tang in his battle against K-State to try and get his buyout, who is very loud, had plenty to say on Twitter about that whole battle when it was going down. Tom Mars said, quote, at first I thought it was a joke. He was shocked by this. And Tom Mars is a guy that has beaten the NCAA on the two landmark cases, right? He was in the House case, he was in the Alston case. That guy was shocked by this. Okay. So I mean, that tells you how people are reacting to this. Um, that should give you a pretty good idea of how shocking this has been to uh to many people across the sport. Let's see, I haven't even opened this article from uh David Ubbin at the Athletic, who said he talked to um multiple Big 12 coaches. So he's got some quotes from Big 12 coaches on this Brendan Soresby ruling. Here's one quote What are we doing with that ruling? I mean, seriously. Uh let's see, what else do we have? Here's a group of six head coach. Gambling is one of the rules in sports. That's one of the few rules that exist where if you break it, you are now basically getting blackballed from the sport. And now one of the harshest rules you can break, he did it and he can still play. To me, this is one of the worst things I've seen in 20 years of coaching. Uh okay, here are specific Big 12 coach quotes. Unbelievable. If gambling isn't punishable, what is? Uh that's blanking crazy. We have some serious problems if they don't get that fixed. The entire thing is going to implode soon. Uh, group of six coach called it egregious. Kirby Hokut statement. Kirby Hokut. Uh, here's someone, and this is an interesting point. Quote, I would contact Iowa State athletic director Jamie Pollard and see his thoughts after he lost players. It's a great point. Hunter Deckers, quarterback at Iowa State, who bet on his team once. Once, at least 39 times less than Brendan Sorsby did, and he got the permaban. He got he was ousted forever. Yeah, that probably doesn't sit real well. Now, things worked out for Iowa State. Their football program honestly got better after all the suspensions and everything that happened there. But uh I would not be very happy if I were those kids, for sure. Uh scrolling through to see if there's anything else good from this article. I think I would say that's pretty much it there. Mark Harlan did release a statement, um, the Utah Athletic Director, as with many around the country. I'm disheartened by the injunction today. We're all committed to supporting student athlete well-being, but we must also have a definitive path forward that preserves the most basic tenets of competitive integrity in our industry. So that's very much a quote that's been PR'd up. Okay. It's been very PR'd up there. Uh, let's see. Get to some super chats, and then we can we can talk about um we can talk about a couple things here. One, we need to get to where what does this mean for Protect College Sports Act? Does it mean collective bargaining is gonna happen? What will be the long-ranging impacts of this? Two, we gotta talk the football season, Texas Tech, and the villain role that they're gonna play is gonna be wild. So I really I do really want to talk about that as well. Because look, the the to put a pin in this, like put a period on this, I guess, the statement about like what happens in the Big 12. They're they're talking the talk. 80s are talking the talk right now, they're even putting their name behind it. Now they're gonna meet this week. It's expressed in that article to Ross Dellinger that the Big 12 does have the power to punish Texas Tech. Do they have the guts to do it? I mean, I have no idea. I just I don't know how to answer that question because we've never seen anything like this. And I don't know how that situation then becomes tenable with Texas Tech after that. Like what kind of a reaction would you get from tech? You know, you'll just be dealing with reactions going back and forth. And I don't is is this the moment to take a stand as a conference, or is the stand that needs to be taken here a stand of pushing this toward collective bargaining or the Protect College Sports Act to give the NCAA actual enforcement power here? I that those are all questions I would be asking myself if I were Brett Yormark in the Big 12. Like, is this where the Big 12 needs to take a stand, or is this where we let the bigger picture here take the stand and not let this be something that can continue to happen? Um anyway, all right. So TMGel. TM Gel. I appreciate the apology. TM Gel says, you're right. Sorry, JK. Just tired of other uh schools targeting tech. Big 10 ADs uh don't target Michigan after stallions. Uh your mark lets ADs disparage us. Again, we're gonna disagree on some of this, TM Gel. I appreciate your apology, and I appreciate this. That's I'm I I agree with you. I as I said in my newsletter today, and as I said earlier on the show, I understand why tech fans have a chip on their shoulder. I understand why you're rubbing it in some people's faces today. I understand why you're in some ways acting the way that some tech fans are. Again, I've had tech fans emailing me saying they don't like this and they don't think you should play and all that. But I get why you would feel that way for sure. What's what do you want Brett Yomark to do? What do you want Brett Yomark to do here? The entire sport is taking shots at you. You can't stop your league from happening right now. This is it's apples to oranges. This is not Connor Stallion's thing, it wasn't great. That was not great. To me, this is a step further. This is like the Cardinal Sin. The Cardinal Sin. Betting on your own team. Like it, you know, Pete Rose, right? Like what it I think this is a little different, and I don't think you can expect, like, I I don't think Tony Petiti was out there, or was it Kevin Warren at the time? I can't even remember with Stallions, Petiti or Warren. I don't think they were out there putting a muzzle on ADs. You know, I mean, I don't I would disagree with you on that part, but I understand where your emotion is coming from on this, and I understand where your heart is coming from on this. I'm not wanting your school to have shots taken at it because you're taking it from all angles right now. And this is why these conversations require nuance. Tech fans aren't bad people. Tech fans aren't completely wrong to have the sentiment that they have. I think they're wrong in this instance, but they're not, they have not come by, they've come by this feeling of chip on the shoulder and I got to go after everybody, honestly. So it requires a nuanced discussion. Anyway, TMGL, I appreciate you, my friend. Uh, Darius says, annoying how tech is said to be amoral since he did it. Well, again, let's be fair to Cincinnati. There's been no reporting suggesting that they the reporting says that they got triggered by Prohibit and Soresby lied to them and told them that all he did was try to sign up. It didn't let him, and then they gave him some education and he was on his way. If you want to say, hey, that's hard to believe, they probably knew more. We can, again, certainly open up and uh and have that conversation, and maybe they should be right there too. And maybe Cincy, had this happened last year, maybe Since he would have been right there too, you know, trying to file an injunction. And I know it's not Texas Tech to file the injunction, it's Soresby, but supporting their guy, basically, right, and still letting him play. They may have done the same thing as I think a lot of schools would have done. Darius also said 15 and 15 and 1 again. Is that Taco? Uh Big 12's best interest is Soresby playing. Well, it I've talked about this, Darius. In a vacuum, yes. In a vacuum, if the if the choices are we turn the clock back to February, and you tell me Brendan Soresby playing or not playing, better for the Big 12. Well, obviously, yes, Brendan Soresby playing, most high-profile player in the league. Playing is, yes, a good thing for the Big 12. Brendan Soresby playing now, and whether or not that's the good thing for the Big 12 is interesting. That's become a more loaded question and proposition because you've got ADs in the SEC now coming around and being like, hey man, you should just we should discuss not playing. Like this is this has become bigger. This is going to become a big deal and a big distraction. And you know what? Let's just get the Texas Tech discussion out of the way on what it'll do to Texas Tech season. I think the world of Joey McGuire is a culture builder. Uh James Blanchard, a roster builder. Uh, they have done a tremendous job at like controlling the message, keeping guys dialed in. This will be a massive test for that. This will be a massive test for that. Like, Darius, I'm sure you're embracing this, but I hope you are ready for what is coming this year because nationally, tech was already the poster child for anybody that doesn't like what college sports has become with players being paid a bunch of money and players transferring all the time and nobody having any power to stop it. Tech is the poster child for everything they hate about it. So there's already like, and I think some of that's unfair. Most of that is unfair, in fact. But it exists. And so a lot of people already had that feeling toward tech. Now this has happened. It is amplified and intensified from a national perspective that people will want to see tech lose. Think about the Big 12. Okay. In the Big 12, you have schools that are tired of being. That got beat senseless by tech last year outside of Arizona State. They're tired of that. They're tired of how tech fans, administration, like everybody has reacted, puffing out their chest and being very brash about it. Again, I think tech comes by that honestly, but it is how tech fans have generally acted about it, certainly online. And so you have people that are tired of the attitude, along with getting their brains beat in. And then they're tired of players transferring to Texas Tech. And now you're throwing this on top of that. It's going to be rough on the road. There will be a lot of really fired up people coming after tech this year. And that changes the dynamic of the season. This has certainly added a lot of distraction potential to Texas Tech season. So you got to be ready for that. Texas Tech might as well, maybe not week one for Abilene Christian, but when Tech comes out to play Houston on Friday, September 18th, you might as well ditch the football helmets and you might as well come out in Darth Vader helmets. I mean, that's what it's going to be. It is the Sith Lord Red Raiders against America's team, the Houston Cougars, on September 18th. Like that's that's what that is going to uh to be like. David, David, uh have to say that this is all a game. Uh, maybe this is a good opportunity for every school to reassess their priorities as the Ivies did a few years back. Well, one thing I will say, David, on that front is that just judging again by the online interactions, I know Twitter is not real life, but it is disheartening sometimes to see, man, how mean everybody is to each other on Twitter over this. If we can take a step back, take a deep breath, and just okay, let's respond, not react to what somebody is saying about your school or how you feel about tech or whatever. Deep breasts, everybody. Please. Please, let's not be, we can all be relatively respectful even while disagreeing on this. All right. I know that's not really like the sports culture these days, but I will agree with you on that. Problem is, David, if you're going to take a minute to reassess your priorities and be, you know, like the Ivies, you'll get left behind really fast. I mean, college sports will leave you. And hey, if that's personally what you prefer, I'm that's fine. I will not fight that. That's totally cool. But I do think the vast majority of everybody around here is wanting their schools to go all in and and keep up with it. Uh David talks buffs. What's up, David? Uh, tech fans acting like Soresby and Tech drive the conference like Texas or OU did. Give me a break. Uh, David, I do appreciate that you you dropped in the LMAO. It's become as I don't know if that's like a millennial thing, and that's become my favorite punctuation mark to a sentence. People always say millennials hit hit you with the ha ha or the L O L. Mine's been LMAO. That's my uh flavor of millennial that I am. Anyway, well, yeah, look, Texas Te fans for a long time were very marginalized. I'm just gonna give you, just in fairness to tech fans, David, tech fans for a long time lived in a state with Texas, and they still do with Texas and Texas AM, but they were in the same conference with them and had to deal with all of that being at very best third in the pecking order there and taking all sorts of you know little brother stuff from Texas and Texas AM. Well, they're struggling once Mike Leach left, and then you had Baylor and TCU jumped up with their big runs, right? They were great programs, had some really nice runs. Texas Tech didn't have it. So you're talking about the pecking order there, you get you get thrown really far down the list, and you're getting beaten and battered and bruised and taking a lot of shots from everybody, and you're out in West Texas, which everybody's oh, middle of nowhere, Lubbock sucks. I mean, there's Texas Tech fans have taken a lot of crap for a lot of years, all right. I think anybody in Texas Tech's position, when then suddenly given this roster and new life and control at least for a year of the conference, and certainly the resources to be in pole position of the Big 12 right now. They have to obviously fulfill that, but they are in pole position with the resources they have now in this era. I think a lot of people would be acting that way. Uh now that doesn't mean that you have to like it. I'm not saying you have to like it. And at least the what we see online, there is certainly a lot of brashness from Texas Tech fans there, and many of them do act like that. Yes, I think it is a fair criticism of plenty of the very loud online fans. You also have to remember like Twitter's not real life, but Texas Tech, the administration and Cody Campbell, I mean, they they set the tone on some of that too, and they act with the same level of brashness themselves. So I think all of those things are true. I understand why you feel that way. There are plenty online who do act that way, and you're gonna be hearing it from them a lot now. They were the ones shooting the memes out today. Some of those were funny, some of those were funny. Uh, David, I appreciate you being here, man. Thank you. Thank you for uh for sharing your your thoughts. I see you've got something else here. David also said Soresby playing puts a black mark on the Big 12. We'll see. I don't I don't know if the Big 12 can stop him. Like I know it said the Big 12 can punish Texas Tech. I don't know if they can stop him from playing necessarily. So is it I would think if that's your opinion, it would be more on Texas Tech. But then maybe you're like Darius earlier who said, well, put it on Cincinnati then too, because they had him and he played after all this, you know. You fair enough. Fair enough. Uh David, Nebraska AD calling for conference self-governing after Soresby ruling. Yeah, I mean, I definitely like you're gonna all this stuff. You already had the like Andy Staples of the world, John Wilners of the world saying breakaway by the Big Ten and the SEC or self-governance, all that stuff rapidly approaching as this has become such a mess with the Protect College Sports Bill. You you want this on top of it now? Yeah, you're gonna be hearing a lot about people thinking that is what should happen. Conference governs itself. Each conference has its own rules, and then I guess you decide if you want to play everybody else. Like I don't know, man, but you're you're gonna hear more of that. You're definitely gonna hear more of that drum being beaten. Uh uh. Big 12 ADs ruled 15 and one over. Oh, okay, so tortillas. I got you. I got you, Darius. The taco is supposed to be a tortilla. Is that what it is? Big 12 ADs ruled 15 and one over tortillas, the same is coming. Okay. Thank you for the uh thank you for the clarification there. Uh Joseph, what's up, Joseph? I know that Texas was public enemy number one, but I'm trying to warn people that all of the Southwest Conference schools were the were that cutthroat, Texas just had bigger wallets. What tech is doing should not be a surprise. I think also a lot of it is just like the climate right now. Like we're in that era of college sports, right? Where like you can just be brash and brazen with whatever you're doing. I mean, tech is not the first place, and again, it's not tech who filed the lawsuit, Brendan Sorsby did, but you've had plenty of other schools and athletes from other schools that have gone and filed these lawsuits to try and get the injunction to then um get whatever ruling you're seeking here or get the can kicked down the road. Lots of people have done that to the NCAA on lots of issues, and I think a bunch of schools would have done the same thing that Texas Tech did. So, yes, I see your point there, and I I I can absolutely understand how that would be the case. Texas Tech just didn't have like quite the resources or the gravitas that Texas did to flaunt it as much in the past, but now given their opportunity, they are they are doing the same thing. I get I get where you're coming from there. I also would just say I think this is how a lot of schools would be acting right now. Once again, the hypothetical to me that is so fascinating is like what happens if if Lane Kiffin had Soresby, had he gone to LSU and Tech took Sam Levitt, would it just be the Lane Kiffin circus right now? I mean, can you imagine that Kiffin being the one that's like fighting for this? Uh I'd be very interested to know how that were going. Uh, let's see. Leahy, CM. Leahy, CM. So underage betting in Indiana comes with a 180 days in jail tag. Let's put his rear in jail if we want to use the courts. Well, that is a part of this that I've wondered about because you know, he was under the the Athletic at one point reported that like the gaming commissions in Indiana and Ohio had opened an investigation in this. And I know when I said on Twitter today, like, what is Hunter Deckers, the Iowa State quarterback, thinking about this? Somebody came back with the response, well, that was uh that was like a criminal case, and this is this is not that. And I was like, hmm, okay, yeah, all right. But what why isn't this a criminal case? Because yeah, he was underage when he placed all those bets back at Indiana. Like, I don't is there a component that can come into play on all that? This is where I'm just I'm out over my skis, man. I talk about college sports, I'm not supposed to be uh down on the intricacies of the law. I don't, I don't know, but I think that's a very good question to raise. Like, where does that come into play with all this? I do not know. I honestly do not know. I don't know. Leahy, thank you for being here. It's a great question. I wish I had a better answer for you, and I really appreciate your support of the channel. Same with everybody who is here. Uh I guess just to wrap this up, guys. Um, it's gonna be really interesting to see what the fallout is from this now because this is clearly just ignited a match on a fire that was already burning. But it's it's it's poured gasoline on it. Throw another match, throw a tank of gas on it. That's what's going on now. So will this lead, will there be self-governance? Does this push forward the Protect College Sports Act? Does this lead to collective bargaining and making them actual employees come back to the table? Which I will still just stand by. Like, if you want the cleanest result in all of this, everything, everything that's in the Protect College Sports Act, everything that is uh everything that's being argued over right now, basically, everything that people think is crazy, the free transfers and and NIL money and all that stuff. The easiest way to fix all of that is to make them employees, collectively bargain with them, and then have real contracts like every other league does, real rules, real contracts that have been agreed to by everybody. That's the easiest way to do it. But the NCAA has never wanted to do that. As I mentioned, Cody Campbell earlier on Twitter did say there are some like intricacies that make that impossible, basically, and that he was gonna write an op-ed about it. I look forward to hearing that to see what that is. Because the wilder this gets, I'm just like, guys, just do you're paying them gobs of money to play football for you. They're employees, like just do that. But the other issue you face there is now if you're a player, why the hell would you ever agree to that? You're never gonna have it better than you have it right now as a player. You can transfer whenever you want, wherever you want, more or less, and you can make basically an unlimited amount of money. So I don't know why you would ever want to collectively bargain and go down that road. You would have wanted it five years ago, but not anymore. Again, a poor foresight by the NCAA when they started losing these legal cases. They didn't say, hey, we should just try to saddle up here and you know, create that. So I don't know what's gonna happen, but I think something will. I'll leave you with this. I wrote this earlier today. I think we will look back on today as a truly like landmark day in the history of college sports. What that turns into, what the end road is that we're looking back from, I don't know what that's going to be. Uh, but I think we're headed somewhere significant. There will be some kind of significant change that comes. And this is gonna be one of the real linchpin moments of this. I do think it's it's that big, it's that important, it's that impactful. So I'll leave you with that. I see, I know I got at least one more super chat to get to. Darius. Jealousy from Big 12 fans disguised as righteousness. Well, again, Darius, this is where I would say I think you got to treat this with some nuance. I know that's not really popular. I know that's not popular. Big 12 fans have a right to be upset, my friend. This is it, they have a right to be upset. Is uh is there some jealousy baked into that too? Absolutely, that from some folks. There is some jealousy baked into that. Like I would not dispute that at all. It doesn't mean they're wrong. It doesn't mean they're wrong to act a little bit righteous about this. Uh, because this is BS. It is. Uh, it is, but as a tech fan, I'm not saying you're wrong for taking a bit of a victory lap either. I understand, as I have mentioned many times on this show, why you guys have the attitude that you have about it. So, yeah, there's probably some jealousy there from some folks, but that does not make them wrong. We are complicated as human beings. It is never truly one thing or truly another. I would say you've got to at least admit, Darius, they have some reason to be upset here. This is not whining over nothing. This is not whining over nothing. Uh, okay. With that, I will end this. Thank you, everybody, for showing up. I knew this would be a crowded uh live show with everything that happened. I am going to mercifully try to get away for like a little mini retreat this week. Hopefully, there's no big giant news, but if there is, I'll try and get you some content on it. I'll at least have my phone and I'll have a little clip mic. So I'll have some kind of setup where I could get you some content if something were to happen. But I'm going to try and enjoy the getaway. Okay. 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